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[00:02] <addisonj> blah, I need to source a server tonight, something I haven't done in a few years, anyone got recommendations for something with 16 or so cores (intel or amd), 16gb+ ram, dual psu and decent management stuff (ilo or equivalent)?
[00:30] <Mr_Queue> http://www.thinkmate.com/System/RAX_QS4-1110/25343
[00:30] <Mr_Queue> http://www.thinkmate.com/Computer_Systems/Rackmount_Servers/Thinkmate_Servers
[00:31] <MTecknology> Any of you guys happen to use OpenVZ and UFW? I can't seem to get the two to play nice together. As soon as I run ufw enable in the guest I can't talk to the guest anymore. Even running iptables -F will keep me locked out until I run ufw disable.
[01:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1055892 in keepalived (main) "keepalived does not honor use_vmac directive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055892
[01:11] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1055896 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055896
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[01:27] <MTecknology> Are there any nice iptables front ends that play well with openvz containers?
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[02:13] <AtomicSpark> I found out the other night and thought I would mention (though, probably you all know or dont care) that virtualenv for python uses absolute paths and if you move the created directory, all sorts of awkwardness happens. There is an option to convert to relative, but I dont know what I broke in the mean time and had to start over.
[02:13] <AtomicSpark> Thanks for those who suggested it though. Virtualenv is pretty awesome.
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[04:33] <linocisco> who is using glpi ?
[04:36] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1055935 in maas (main) "dhcpd.conf is not updated after package install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055935
[05:18] <ChmEarl> can precise still boot from /boot on ext2 partition?
[05:19] <sarnold> my precise has an ext3 /boot -- they're near enough, right?
[05:30] <ChmEarl> sarnold, yes - I was able to read kern.log and ext /boot is working. The log stopped in udev because of video
[05:30] <ChmEarl> ext2 boot is working
[05:31] <sarnold> ChmEarl: oh, you didn't get stuck with that intel-video-dead problem going around did you?
[05:31] <sarnold> (well, maybe that's just suspend-resume or once X is running.. I haven't paid attention to details)
[05:31] <ChmEarl> um maybe... I added `text` to the kernel line
[05:31] <ChmEarl> as a workaround
[05:32] <ChmEarl> still not completing boot
[05:34] <sarnold> Hrm. :/
[05:50] <ChmEarl> sarnold, it now boots and gets network, only now ssh is not working... small problem
[05:53] <sarnold> ChmEarl: you've got the most interesting problems :)
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[06:03] <ChmEarl> bridge-utils was not installed
[06:03] <ChmEarl> working now
[06:10] <sarnold> ChmEarl: thanks for the report. I'll try to remember :)
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[07:17] <ztane> anyone knows why supervisord restart / stop does not actually stop supervisord on precise
[07:18] <RoyK> what is supervisord?
[07:18] <ztane> ah, pidfile does not seem to exist even
[07:18] <ztane> a daemon to monitor other daemons and service programs
[07:19] <RoyK> something like puppet?
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[07:28] <ztane> more limited scope
[07:29] <ztane> just monitors services and restarts them as needed, redirect logs etc...
[07:30]  * RoyK prefers puppet, then
[07:30] <ztane> this is not about mgmt, just monitoring of own sys software
[07:31] <ztane> anyway, ubuntu startscripts seem to be b0rken
[07:38] <RoyK> sorry, don't know, I'm usually using other software for monitoring
[07:39] <RoyK> that is, I hadn't heard of supervisord before you told me ;)
[07:47] <HorzA> is there a juju channel?
[07:47] <rbasak> HorzA: #juju
[07:47] <HorzA> thanks :D
[07:49] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1055951 in maas (main) "maas-dhcp has no sudoers permission to start maas-dhcp-server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055951
[08:03] <th0mz> anybody have samba segfault please ?
[08:03] <th0mz> Ubuntu 12.04
[08:03] <ikonia> just state YOUR problem
[08:03] <th0mz> samba is linked to a domain
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[08:04] <ikonia> what others have doesn't matter
[08:04] <th0mz> *** glibc detected *** smbd: free(): invalid pointer: 0x00007fe6c008e220 ***
[08:04] <ikonia> more so as a sefault will probably contain information specific to your system
[08:04] <th0mz> *** glibc detected *** smbd: free(): invalid pointer: 0x00007fe6c008be20 ***
[08:04] <th0mz> oups
[08:04] <th0mz> mmh
[08:04] <ikonia> that's not really going to tell us much
[08:04] <ikonia> you need to get a dump and analyise it with debug tools
[08:05] <ikonia> also worth looking on launchpad for similar bugs with the same version of samba
[08:08] <th0mz> ok , i go to launchpad
[08:08] <th0mz> maybe if you see something special
[08:08] <th0mz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226116/
[08:08] <th0mz> maybe an error message i missed
[08:08] <ikonia> I just told you - you need a dump/stack trace to analyise
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[08:24] <th0mz> i have no segfault when using a local user
[08:24] <th0mz> i try to feel launchpad report with this.
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[09:05] <chmac> Can I somehow force all files in a specific directory to be owned by a specified group and always writable to that group?
[09:05] <chmac> I feel like maybe there's something around bitmasks or something that will do the job, but I'm not sure how to research it online without the appropriate terminology.
[09:14] <fdge> chmod g+s
[09:15] <fdge> chmac
[09:17] <zertux> Hi
[09:17] <zertux> i have a small question
[09:17] <zertux> I have a server running Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS with 2 x Hexa-Core Xeon E5649 2.53GHz w/HT and 32GB of ram
[09:17] <zertux> http://s11.postimage.org/qwtwgxckz/Screenshot_from_2012_09_25_12_06_28.png
[09:18] <zertux> The server serves as website
[09:18] <zertux> average of connections are 800 at the same time
[09:19] <zertux> each user runs about 50 mysql queries (select, insert) (small values nothing big)
[09:19] <zertux> from the pic above, i see few cores are busy while the rest are idle
[09:19] <fdge> you don know most people that use computers have a short attention span?
[09:20] <zertux> fdge: sorry for the lag i guess ?
[09:20] <fdge> and getting to your question over multiple lines is not the best
[09:20] <zertux> sorry
[09:20] <zertux> am working :(
[09:21] <fdge> I don't care, just letting you know
[09:21] <zertux> the question is, is it normal ? do i have to configure ubuntu server to share the load among the cores or is it mysql related ?
[09:22] <chmac> fdge: Thanks, I'll check that out
[09:24] <fdge> zertux, my for sure answer is I don't know
[09:30] <fdge> you might have to tell your webserver to "use more threads"
[09:32] <zertux> webserver or mysql ?
[09:32] <zertux> the website is running fast and fine
[09:32] <zertux> but i just wanted to know why the load is on some cores and the rest are idle
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[10:01] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056070 in samba (main) "segfault in samba with Active Directory users " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056070
[10:05] <koolhead17> hi all
[10:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056072 in php5 (main) "php5-dev missing mysqlnd header files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056072
[10:09] <koolhead17> Daviey: ping
[10:14] <Daviey> koolhead17: hey
[10:14] <koolhead17> Daviey: RC2 RC2 :P
[10:14] <linocisco> Experience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated
[10:15] <Daviey> koolhead17: \o/
[10:18] <koolhead17> Daviey: i don`t see Quantum in the list though :(
[10:21] <Daviey> koolhead17: Ugh
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[11:01] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056103 in ceph (main) "no docs package / html docs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056103
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[12:42] <patrickgamer> is there a set of specialized/customized Ubuntu Server images for small devbox use (read: dedicated Apache, dedicated MySQL, etc. with low system requirements)? I don't want to spend the time tweaking if I don't have to.
[12:44] <RoyK> hm... how long has /dev/disk/by-id been around?
[12:44] <RoyK> patrickgamer: no, just install a standard machine with ssh only, and apt-get the rest
[12:45] <patrickgamer> RoyK:  k thanks. Do you think there'd be an interest in it? similar to https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
[12:46] <RoyK> patrickgamer: dunno - I don't think I'd have bothered. It takes a very short time to install a basic Ubuntu server from a USB stick, or even a CDROM, and that can be used for anything...
[12:48] <patrickgamer> kk - just thought it'd be nice to use as part of an automatic deploy or whatever. thanks
[12:56] <SpamapS> RoyK: disk/by-id I think was in 10.04, but might have been 10.10
[13:11] <RoyK> SpamapS: didn't know that one - nifty :)
[13:14] <nsudo> how to build a lamp in a virtual way
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[13:17] <SpamapS> nsudo: start with a light bulb, maybe some copper?
[13:17] <SpamapS> nsudo: do you mean a web service based on mysql and php?
[13:19] <patrickgamer> RoyK: fyi someone just sent me this link. http://www.turnkeylinux.org/mysql
[13:21] <RoyK> patrickgamer: ?
[13:21]  * RoyK wonders if patrickgamer is a spambot
[13:22] <Pici> RoyK: looks more like someone just not paying enougbattention to irc.
[13:22] <Pici> wow, I really messed up that word.   "enough attention"
[13:23] <soren> Well, the 'b' key is right in between the 'h' key and the space bar. It could have been much worse :)
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[13:34] <patrickgamer> not a spam bot
[13:35] <patrickgamer> i just thought i'd follow up b/c RoyK said there weren't pre-made images. So I thought i'd share
[13:35] <patrickgamer> also - at work, so not watching the channel intently
[13:36] <patrickgamer> i prefer the pre-mades b/c it'll be easier to automate devbox deployments - and I don't have to worry about implementing standards or anything myself
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[13:55] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:55] <hallyn> stgraber: fwiw, the ubuntu server (precise) installer ran great on powerpc (qemu, 32-bit).  Only problem was it didn't install a bootloader.
[14:05] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, ok... :)
[14:07] <stgraber> hallyn: btw, I'm trying to get libvirt to work with spice. After intalling all the right packages, I managed to get libvirt to start with it, getting a VM to boot but for some reason X doesn't seem to use the qxl driver and instead gets me the failsafe dialog. Any idea what I'm missing?
[14:07] <hallyn> stgraber: i was mostly curious for an alternative to porter-ppc, i dont' know how much work we can legitimately put into it, given the # of apparent interested users
[14:07] <hallyn> stgraber: are you using virt-mangaer?
[14:07] <stgraber> hallyn: yep
[14:13] <hallyn> stgraber: what's the resulting kvm cmdline?  is this on quantal server and client?  are you using spicy to connect?
[14:14] <stgraber> hallyn: cmdline: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226690/
[14:14] <stgraber> that's a quantal VM on a quantal host
[14:14] <stgraber> and I'm using virt-manager to attach to the display (I installed python-spice-client-gtk)
[14:14] <stgraber> spicy and spicec give the same result though
[14:15] <stgraber> I see grub and the boot just fine, then X starts in failsafe mode asking me what I want to do as it couldn't figure out a working config
[14:16] <hallyn> stgraber: it's possible that the installer is doing a mode qxl/spice can't handle, but i thought the desktop installer didn't do that.
[14:16] <hallyn> stgraber: can you try a separate vm, using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergeHallyn_spice ?
[14:18]  * hallyn downloading http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/quantal-dvd-amd64.iso
[14:19] <stgraber> hallyn: same result with the manual kvm-spice command, X starts and I get the failsafe dialog
[14:19] <stgraber> that's when booting yesterday's daily
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[14:19] <hallyn> stgraber: i'm afraid that may be an issue with the qxl driver then
[14:19] <stgraber> looks like it
[14:19] <hallyn> what exactly does the failsafe dialog look like?
[14:19] <hallyn> (i just ran the precise installer under spice this morning with no problems)
[14:21] <stgraber> hallyn: gtk dialog saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode" "Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[14:21] <stgraber> "
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[14:22] <hallyn> stgraber: i wonder if you continue with the install, after reboot will you get accel graphics?
[14:23] <stgraber> I don't think so, because booting an already installed system gave the same result
[14:23] <stgraber> one thing that's weird is that looking at the X startup messages, they actually look good...
[14:24] <stgraber> so it's entering the failsafe mode with an X server apparently running qxl and without any actual error in the logs...
[14:24] <hallyn> what decides whether to ru n failsafe ?
[14:25] <stgraber> in theory a crash of the X server (or at least a non-zero return code)
[14:26] <stgraber> hallyn: Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226714
[14:29] <hallyn> stgraber: change of locale, biab
[14:43] <hallyn> stgraber: any chance you could get the log from a precise desktop guest?  i really don't know what the log is supposed to look like :)
[14:45] <agc93> anyone know whether it's possible to connect to a PPTP VPN (running on an Ubuntu server) on a non-standard port?
[14:50] <stgraber> hallyn: downloading a 12.04.1 image now to compare
[14:56] <hallyn> zul: can i trouble you for one more augeas upload?  (debdiff is attached to bug 1054306)
[14:56] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1054306 in netcf "ncftool list fails" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054306
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[14:56] <zul> hallyn: yeah gimme a sec
[14:57] <hallyn> zul: no hurry - thanks
[14:58] <zul> hallyn: this one right? augeas (0.10.0-1fakesync1ubuntu1) quantal-proposed;
[14:59] <hallyn> zul: yeah.  btw is my naming on that sane?
[14:59] <hallyn> also daviey was suggesting we don't need to do quantal-proposed yet, but...
[14:59] <zul> yeah looks alright
[15:00] <hallyn> zul: ok
[15:01] <hallyn> stgraber: i think the thing to do (as before with qxl issues) will be to install the -dbg pkg and look at resulting core
[15:01] <hallyn> stgraber: i can aim to do that this afternoon, if you don't have time today
[15:02] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, I think I'll just confirm that precise works here, then revert to regular kvm as I really need to do iso testing ;)
[15:02] <hallyn> stgraber: sounds good, thanks for finding this.  ttyl
[15:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056248 in squid3 "assertion failed: AclProxyAuth.cc:229: "authenticateUserAuthenticated(Filled(checklist)->auth_user_request)" " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056248
[15:07] <stgraber> hallyn: 12.04 looks fine
[15:11] <stgraber> hallyn: Xorg.log on 12.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226806
[15:16] <zul> Daviey: can you promote python-tornado please
[15:16] <Daviey> zul: bug?
[15:17] <zul> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-tornado/+bug/1047432
[15:17] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1047432 in python-tornado "[MIR] python-tornado" [Critical,Fix committed]
[15:17] <Daviey> thanks
[15:18] <Daviey> zul: done
[15:18] <zul> Daviey: thanks
[15:20] <zul> Daviey: im going to be start tagging bugs for cloud-archive stuff
[15:20] <Daviey> zul: what is the status of nova using python-babel
[15:20] <Daviey> ?
[15:20] <zul> Daviey:  fixed in the bzr branch will be fixed when i upload rc2
[15:20] <Daviey> zul: how was it re-added?
[15:20] <zul> Daviey: not sure
[15:21] <zul> i think pydist caught it
[15:21] <Daviey> ah
[15:25]  * zul shakes his fist at pydist
[15:26] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1047432 in python-tornado (universe) "[MIR] python-tornado" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047432
[15:28] <Umo> Hey guys, my network interface is regognized a boot and seems to be running but it wont work until I run ifdown and ifup again
[15:28] <Umo> Any suggestions?
[15:30] <lfaraone|sh> jcastro_: ping
[15:30] <jcastro_> lfaraone|sh, pong
[15:36] <lfaraone|sh> jcastro_: any updates on the HP Cloud programme? Some of us are using it and were wondering if it is still expiring in five~ days.
[15:36] <jcastro_> I have had no updates from them
[15:36] <jcastro_> so assume it will go away for now, I will reping though.
[15:36] <jcastro_> lfaraone|sh, I have a glimmer of hope that they just hooked us up for good. :)
[15:37] <lfaraone|sh> jcastro_: hehe. "I'll let you know if I start getting billed"
[15:37] <jcastro_> yeah basically.
[15:42] <hallyn> didn't someone submit a bug to split virsh out of the libvirt-bin package (to separate its installation from libvirtd)?  I can't find it...
[15:44] <JeroenDL> I can't get SFTP with CHROOT working. I've explained everything here: http://serverfault.com/questions/431329/user-cant-sftp-after-chroot (no answers yet). Any suggestions ?
[15:51] <hallyn> stgraber: interesting, so the first line in precise that goes past the q one is [    31.971] bpp == 8 triggers bugs in spice apparently
[15:51] <hallyn> did we lose a bugfix somewhere?
[16:13] <Banzounet> Hi i just edited my /etc/network/interface file : "http://pastebin.com/PLRqGqVP" but it's not working :s May someone help me :( ?
[16:14] <Banzounet> (I was trying to add a bridge for a vm)
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[16:21] <smb> Banzounet, Unfortunately not having the time to look into it but maybe the example of a transparent bridge here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Xen) helps
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[16:52] <hallyn> jamespage: the blueprint items in your nae about hooking lxc testsuite up to jenkins - shoudl we nix that since lxc testsuite is in your UTAH tree?
[16:53] <hallyn> *our* utah tree, he says as a proud team member :)
[16:53] <jamespage> hallyn, nix?
[16:55] <hallyn> well, delete it or mark as we wont' do (wahtever the kwyord is for that)
[16:55] <hallyn> jamespage: ^
[16:55] <jamespage> hallyn, yeah - postpone it until next release
[16:56] <jamespage> I'm going to run a session on getting UTAH tests up and running at UDS
[16:56] <hallyn> ok so utah tests will be run  by jenkins still>?
[16:56] <hallyn> jamespage: i thought that getting the test into the utah tree would automatically get them run
[16:57]  * jamespage sighs
[16:57] <jamespage> if only....
[16:57] <jamespage> it will in about 2 weeks time
[16:57] <hallyn> ok :)
[16:57] <jamespage> hallyn, ^^
[16:57] <hallyn> i'll mark it postponed, thx
[16:57] <jamespage> k
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[17:31] <smoser> hallyn, ping
[17:31] <smoser> do you  knwo how i can pxe boot off of something other than the first nic ?
[17:31] <smoser> kvm
[17:32] <hallyn> smoser: nope.
[17:32] <smoser> no you dont know ?
[17:32] <smoser> or no
[17:32] <smoser> you cannot
[17:32] <hallyn> stgraber: the quantal-dvd-amd64 installer isn't giving me failsafe!
[17:33] <sarnold> wouldn't that up to the BIOS of the various NICs?
[17:33] <hallyn> smoser: no i don't know
[17:33] <smoser> sarnold, well, i'm adding two virtio devices
[17:33] <hallyn> smoser: can you get the qemu boot menu to help you with that?
[17:33] <smoser> and it will only attempt to boot off the first
[17:33] <stgraber> hallyn: did you try with the desktop image?
[17:33] <hallyn> stgraber: used -dvd bc that's what your cmdline showed
[17:33] <stgraber> hallyn: the ubuntu dvd image hasn't been built in a long long time, so probably ships the old X server
[17:34] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, but my quantal-dvd-amd64 image wasn't ubuntu, it was edubuntu
[17:34] <hallyn> stgraber: d'oh!
[17:34] <sarnold> smoser: ah, neither device actually exists then. :) way out of my experience, good luck. :)
[17:34] <hallyn> ok, saturating my link a bit longer :)
[17:34] <stgraber> :)
[17:35] <hallyn> stgraber: so is that the one from daily-live, or daily?  i get so confused
[17:35] <stgraber> hallyn: daily-live
[17:35] <hallyn> ok, fetching
[17:36] <hallyn> smoser: if you want me to play with it lemme know.  don't mean to sound dismissive :)  was just saying i don't offhand know
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[17:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056363 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056363
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[18:08] <hallyn> stgraber: the installer itself didn't have low-graphics problem.  Only after reboot did i get it.  Same with you?
[18:09] <stgraber> hallyn: it depends how you boot it. If you just let it boot, you're going to get the installer. If you choose "Try Ubuntu without installing" from the CD boot menu, then you'll get the failsafe dialog directly
[18:10] <hallyn> stgraber: got it
[18:27] <hallyn> stgraber: bug 1056381
[18:27] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1056381 in xserver-xorg-video-qxl "error on x startup" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056381
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[18:33] <zul> adam_g: re-added the novnc init script
[18:36] <roaksoax_> zul: do you have any example of packaging using git?
[18:36] <zul> roaksoax_:  ew? why?
[18:37] <roaksoax_> zul: need to package openstack-resource-agents
[18:37] <roaksoax_> and thjey are at github
[18:38] <zul> roaksoax_: so you need to generate the source/
[18:39] <roaksoax_> zul: ok...
[18:39] <zul> roaksoax_: xbmc maybe
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[18:39] <roaksoax> zul: ok cool thanks
[18:49] <allohak> hello
[18:49] <allohak> anyone home?
[18:51] <sarnold> allohak: irc tends to work best if you just ask questions ;) waiting for responses before asking can take a while (two mins in this case ;)
[18:52] <allohak> ah
[18:52] <allohak> in that case
[18:52] <allohak> I am trying to debug an audio issue
[18:52] <allohak> aplay only seems to work when I use it as sudo
[18:53] <allohak> even though I have added my user account to "audio"
[18:53] <allohak> can anyone please explain to me how I can get aplay to work as a normal user?
[18:55] <allohak> my end goal is to get pulse audio working, but currently pacmd list-cards reports 0 cards
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[19:05] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:20] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
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[19:32] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
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[19:39] <guntbert> allohak: repeating will be of no use - anyone who enters can see your questions anyway - just one question: what does a server need sound for?
[19:40] <allohak> it's not actually a server, it's a robot running a server installation
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[19:41] <allohak> I am trying to get two way audio though the on board speakers and microphone to a front end interface using gstreamer
[19:42] <allohak> this works between ubuntu-desktop installs, but I am failing at getting the sound configured on the server install
[19:43] <guntbert> allohak: soory, I am of no help in this case - I don't care much for sound on my computers :)
[19:43] <guntbert> *sorry
[19:45] <allohak> guntbert, understood. I know it is kind of a strange request. Also, I apologise if I was spamming the channel. I was just reposting it whenever several new people would join so they could see the question. I figured anyone already here has seen it and not replied because they can't help.
[19:47] <guntbert> allohak: no worries, this channel is not too busy anyway :-)
[19:48] <allohak> guntbert, are you involved officially  with the server distribution?
[19:49] <guntbert> allohak: not at all - just another user
[19:51] <nsudo> cant delete on hfs partition on ububtu
[19:52] <RoyK> how did you try?
[19:52] <nsudo> move to trash
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[19:57] <RoyK> nsudo: erm - move to trash seems like a desktop thing
[19:58] <guntbert> !crosspost | nsudo
[19:58] <ubottu> nsudo: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[20:02] <sarnold> nsudo: you'll have to give a lot more details; hfs or hfs+? mount options? results if you just use 'rm'? error messages? warnings? permissions?
[20:03] <nsudo> ok! sorry guys
[20:05] <nsudo> how do i check that sarnold
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[20:12] <nsudo> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force /dev/sda2 /mnt gives me a readonly
[20:21] <genii-around> nsudo: Have you tried -o rw,gid=0,uid=0       ?
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[21:21] <uvirtbot> New bug: #1056462 in ceph (main) "The '--print' option to ceph-authtool is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056462
[21:39] <hallyn> stgraber: all right, so it gets a bit hairy.  I'm going to put what's needed for full fix in the bug, then i guess go chat on ubuntu-release :)
[21:40] <stgraber> hallyn: hehe, ok :)
[21:43] <hallyn> stgraber: heh, i'm typing in xterm, and seeing 'shimano' results at the bottom.  I guess that's what smb was talking about :)
[21:47] <hallyn> btw that took a lot of test builds to find a workign combination :)
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[22:42] <court_jester> Can I make questions about landscape usage here?
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