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jibel | Welcome to Ubuntu QA and Testing | http://qa.ubuntu.com/ | Currently testing Quantal Beta2 Candidates | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 09:18 |
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akhila | hello. testing quantal desktop. After successfully installing it, when I logged in, I could see Amazon icon on the launcher. after i clicked it once, I was properly directed to the Amazon site but the icon disappeared altogether from the launcher. could that be a bug? | 10:15 |
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balloons | guten morgen | 13:15 |
smartboyhw | balloons, LOL | 13:17 |
sagaci | nearly morning here | 13:34 |
smartboyhw | :) | 13:35 |
smartboyhw | here is 9:35 PM at night | 13:35 |
olbi | 15:40 PM here :D | 13:40 |
smartboyhw | ;P | 13:40 |
balloons | whew.. conversion script is almost ready | 15:21 |
xnox | Is mago project still alive? | 15:39 |
xnox | and used in ubuntu? | 15:39 |
balloons | xnox, to my knowledge no | 15:39 |
balloons | ara can likely give the info on it's status | 15:40 |
balloons | and history | 15:40 |
xnox | balloons: there is some code in ubiquity to run tests under LDTP and possibly mago.... but I have no clue how to run those. | 15:42 |
* xnox really really wants gui testing of ubiquity | 15:42 | |
balloons | ahh.. that's a different story then | 15:42 |
* balloons also wants more gui testing | 15:42 | |
robotfuel | I have some gui tests of ubiquity | 15:43 |
robotfuel | I used xpresser to do it | 15:43 |
robotfuel | https://launchpad.net/xpresser | 15:44 |
robotfuel | If you are interested we hangout in #xpresser | 15:44 |
robotfuel | there is a video of xpresser in action here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-xxBBPU9kU | 15:46 |
* balloons watching video | 15:47 | |
balloons | I've messed about with sikuli with ideas likes this | 15:47 |
balloons | imho, making hashes of the pixels in the box instead of screenshots would be better | 15:48 |
robotfuel | balloons: xpresser is a clean room rewrite of xpresser, it's better because it runs on arm | 15:48 |
xnox | robotfuel: ?! | 15:49 |
robotfuel | balloons: I mean xpresser is a clean room rewrite of skiuli | 15:49 |
robotfuel | heh | 15:49 |
balloons | wow.. wonder how I missed that | 15:49 |
robotfuel | sikuli even | 15:49 |
xnox | balloons: launch orca & add audio recorder & compare audio record =) | 15:52 |
xnox | also recording video of the run would be great to later "view" the failures. | 15:53 |
* xnox like | 15:53 | |
balloons | indeed.. | 15:53 |
xnox | robotfuel: did you say you had something for ubiquity already? | 15:53 |
balloons | this needs to be able to watch for on-screen changes, read pixel colors, and use hashes :-) | 15:54 |
robotfuel | xnox: yes, it's for oem-config which is a little different than ubiquity. | 15:54 |
xnox | robotfuel: where? | 15:54 |
balloons | an automated oem install/ | 15:54 |
balloons | ? | 15:55 |
robotfuel | balloons: yes | 15:55 |
xnox | where? where? where? is it in jenkins yet? | 15:55 |
* balloons thinks you made xnox REALLY excited.. | 15:58 | |
robotfuel | the code is not public, was for an OEM. it requires an older version of xpresser because it didn't have special keypress support when I wrote it. I will update it put it on my launchpad page | 15:58 |
xnox | fair enough. | 15:58 |
robotfuel | xnox: I'll ping you when I upload it | 15:59 |
balloons | robotfuel, is there ideas for further features? ala, what I mentioned.. | 15:59 |
robotfuel | balloons: you can make a blueprint or we can accept a merge request if you have a patch :) | 16:00 |
balloons | xnox, for ubiquity, I imagine writing the script to test it would be straightforward.. it's more the infrastructure around running and reporting it I'd guess | 16:00 |
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xnox | balloons: as long as utah boots ubiquity-cd with the right amount of disks, I can fake the rest of the setup I need on the disks, to exercise ubiquity. | 16:01 |
xnox | balloons: and as long as utah will let me reboot the vm, I'm fine. | 16:01 |
balloons | xnox, I already have ideas on how I would want to write such tests for long-term maintaince | 16:02 |
balloons | anyways.. this is like early xmas.. have to get through the work for this cycle first :-) | 16:02 |
xnox | balloons: maybe we should discuss this a bit further =) cause I had some ideas as well. | 16:03 |
xnox | balloons: are you at uds-r? | 16:03 |
balloons | xnox, yes | 16:03 |
robotfuel | I used an upstart job to start my xpresser script that ran through oem-config. | 16:03 |
balloons | mm.. your using pyatspi | 16:03 |
balloons | robotfuel, ok, so how's performance, given your taking physical screenshots? (I was wondering if you had something special to get x buffer access) | 16:04 |
robotfuel | balloons: export DISPLAY=:0 | 16:06 |
balloons | xnox, yes I think we should discuss @ UDS.. but we could do mockups before that I'm sure | 16:06 |
balloons | ohh.. window manipulation is a must as well | 16:07 |
jibel | balloons, xnox did you look at https://launchpad.net/autopilot ? | 16:09 |
balloons | thanks for sharing robotfuel.. neat stuff | 16:09 |
balloons | jibel, yes I also know of autopilot, but I've not seen the latest stuff they have | 16:09 |
jibel | for UI testing I think it's a very valid option, not sure how mature glib support is but it's a great tool | 16:09 |
* xnox too many frameworks.... | 16:10 | |
jibel | and too few working correctly | 16:10 |
balloons | utah needs to bind them all :-) | 16:11 |
balloons | anyways, safe to say xnox something will happen with this next cycle | 16:12 |
balloons | dholbach is also working with pitti on similar things.. | 16:12 |
xnox | hmm.... | 16:12 |
* balloons goes back the conversions | 16:13 | |
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nagappan | xnox, ping ara / davmor2 / jibel to run GUI testing :-) | 16:57 |
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balloons | whew, ok, I think most of the isotracker testcases are migrated now to the new dt/dd format | 18:09 |
balloons | this is an example: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/238/builds/24168/testcases/1301/results. Notice we have bolding and italics now for action, expected result | 18:10 |
balloons | let me know if anyone is finding old legacy testcases looking like this: This is a legacy testcase, content is only available here: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases | 18:10 |
balloons | plars, jibel ^^ | 18:11 |
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phillw | balloons: did you sort the typo out on | 18:45 |
balloons | auto-resieze? | 18:45 |
balloons | yea | 18:45 |
phillw | balloons: ignore, I hit return instead of delete! | 18:45 |
phillw | I've just replied to warren. | 18:45 |
phillw | i do think it is corrupt install media. | 18:46 |
phillw | looks like a respin for Desktop images is in the works. | 18:47 |
ade | Hey all, how's testing going? | 18:57 |
balloons | hello adam_g | 18:59 |
balloons | bah.. autocomplete | 18:59 |
phillw | hiyas ade | 18:59 |
balloons | hello ade | 18:59 |
phillw | lol.. DYAC :) | 18:59 |
ade | Hey, phillw, balloons | 18:59 |
ade | phillw: Updated my wiki with some basic info today! Nothing special but it's a start. Many thanks for setting that up for me again :o) | 19:07 |
phillw | ade: yvw, with the disapearance of the mentoring system, just ask if you want assistance on anything. | 19:09 |
ade | phillw: Cheers phill, that's very much appreciated. | 19:14 |
ade | Image almost burnt, then getting stuck into the beta 2 tests. Lot's of activity in the testcases during today which is very good to see! | 19:35 |
balloons | :-) | 19:36 |
phillw | ade: yeah, balloons has been busy doing the conversions to the new css theme :) | 19:36 |
balloons | let me know if you notice anything off on them | 19:36 |
ade | balloons: lol, should be ok today as have my testing head on :oP | 19:37 |
phillw | balloons: this could be fun, they've put off the desktop respins until tomorrow. Nice to see lots of testing time left for QA :P | 19:38 |
ade | Might have found a general bug already... or shall I say it found me! Plugged usb headphones in, switched to profile in sound manager, no sound... then push volume up to 25%, no sound.... push volume over 30%... | 19:45 |
ade | ubuntu-bugs bleeding ears | 19:45 |
yofel | did someone else notice that when you hover over a bug in some cases not the whole tooltip is visible in the browser window? Happens when I hover over the 'bugs to look for' list. http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/qa_tt.png | 19:45 |
balloons | yofel, yes | 19:46 |
balloons | actually there is a bug for it | 19:46 |
yofel | ok :) | 19:46 |
* balloons wonders why we didn't fix that in the lst round of updates | 19:46 | |
balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1035503 | 19:47 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1035503 in Ubuntu QA Website "Bug description yellow boxes exceed browser window dimensions." [Low,Confirmed] | 19:47 |
yofel | feature ;P | 19:47 |
balloons | yea, it works for me, but I'm guessing if you have a smaller screen it could get cut off if the width isn't wide enough | 19:48 |
yofel | well, happens with firefox maximized to 1600px width here, so can't be that rare | 19:49 |
balloons | yofel, lol.. I have 2560 pixels | 19:49 |
yofel | ok, I can't keep up with that. Largest that I have here is 1920 ^^ | 19:50 |
balloons | lololol.. works on my box ;-) not really, yea, but thanks for reporting | 19:50 |
balloons | njin! | 19:50 |
balloons | the man himself | 19:50 |
ade | balloons: New testcases are great and look great too | 20:02 |
balloons | glad you like them.. knome and stgraber were a big part.. as was everyone else who helped migrate them :-) | 20:03 |
knome | :) | 20:03 |
yofel | they do look nice indeed, nice work :) | 20:03 |
njin | balloons, hallo, it's too late, see you tomorrow | 20:50 |
njin | balloons, can you take a look at the bugs i've reported in the unity track, because I think that as usual ubuntu became unstable around beta2 release and i've got to refresh it ' | 20:51 |
ade | Is there a way to report a bug during the install process? aka during the unity install process. | 20:55 |
ade | Can anyone reproduce this... press space during 'amber screen' > select language > then select 'Install Ubuntu' .... the following screen with select language installation is blank. | 21:00 |
ade | *'installation language' even | 21:00 |
ade | Oh, on Ubuntu 12.10 lol | 21:01 |
balloons | ade, what do you mean? | 21:05 |
ade | Am getting a blank ubiquity screen during install... the steps above recreate how I got to it in Ubuntu 12.10 | 21:07 |
balloons | blank as in completely blank? | 21:07 |
balloons | no buttons? no text? | 21:08 |
ade | Has the language select list on the left, but the screen on the right is completely blank | 21:08 |
balloons | that sounds ok | 21:08 |
balloons | you have buttons? | 21:08 |
balloons | suppose a screenshot would help here ;-) | 21:08 |
ade | screenshot coming up, 2 mins... | 21:09 |
ade | Newbie question... Best way to upload a screenshot?? | 21:12 |
phillw | ade: I use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | 21:15 |
phillw | then just pop the link on here :) | 21:15 |
ade | phillw: Thanks phill, not advisable to send files through irc then? Rick click on name and 'send a file' | 21:17 |
phillw | ade it's easier to just pop them on there, they autodelete after 14 days. | 21:17 |
phillw | I don't know if ubuntu have a version of their own outside of the wiki system. | 21:18 |
ade | Makes sense, I use pastebin a lot so imagebin makes a lot of sense lol | 21:18 |
ade | balloons: http://imagebin.org/229801 | 21:18 |
balloons | ade, yep, that | 21:19 |
balloons | ahh.. I saw you dcc snow | 21:20 |
balloons | heh | 21:20 |
balloons | i think I auto bounce them | 21:20 |
balloons | so ade,that looks correct to me | 21:20 |
balloons | if your connected to the inet, you should see a note about the release notes | 21:20 |
ade | lol yeah tried. Ok then cool, always good to check first :o) | 21:21 |
ade | and yes, release notes text and links display ok with a inet connection | 21:23 |
phillw | balloons: can you quickly check if this is a general ubiquity issue "But there is a Ubiquity issue on the 'Preparing to Install Lubuntu Screen' the is plugged to a power source is missing" as per step 3 of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1301/info | 21:30 |
balloons | phillw, ahh | 21:31 |
balloons | are you on a laptop? | 21:31 |
phillw | I am, but not got a recent image to test. it's come in via L-QA | 21:32 |
phillw | I'll pull in the lubuntu 64 bit tonight (it takes ~ 4 hours to grab an image) | 21:33 |
ade | Right that's me done for the evening. Managed to break out of the Ubuntu mandatory tests and do a couple (all-be-it, very easy) run-once tests. Thanks for your patience and advice, am starting to get to grips with the basics of QA testing! | 21:33 |
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balloons | excellent :-) | 21:34 |
balloons | phillw, it will only show if the hw it's running on is indeed a laptop | 21:34 |
phillw | ade: great news, you will soon get the hang of it! | 21:36 |
phillw | balloons: then we need to edit the test case :) | 21:38 |
balloons | phillw, be my guest good sir | 21:44 |
balloons | you can see the new goodness in there | 21:44 |
balloons | :-) | 21:44 |
phillw | yeah, I'm on it... just dealing with a wiki-editor job :P | 21:45 |
balloons | thx phillw | 21:52 |
* phillw keeps fingers crossed :) (22:53:41) XXXXXX: Thanks though! If all goes well I'll never see you again :p | 22:01 | |
phillw | balloons: edit done | 22:16 |
balloons | ty phillw | 22:33 |
wxl | am i the only one that finds the live session suggestion to "use and execute the default applications" kind of vague. are we supposed to follow some specific procedure? just open them? | 22:42 |
phillw | balloons: hopefully bug 1056473 is a real short lived bug :) | 22:51 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1056473 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "On the screen Preparing to install FAMILY,Is plugged to a power source is missing." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056473 | 22:51 |
phillw | wxl: the test once cases for lubuntu have not yet been started. they are planned! (Near the bootom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates ) :) | 22:53 |
xnox | phillw: how was it tested? | 22:53 |
xnox | it will only be visible in the power-source capable systems where we can detect this. | 22:53 |
xnox | e.g. real metal laptops, on which laptop-detect worked. Or for example I saw either VMWare or Oracle's virtualbox export laptop-mode/battery levels to the quantal live CD | 22:54 |
phillw | xnox: I have asked the OP to confirm if it was a desktop or laptop he was installing on. from my chat with balloons it would seem likely it was a desktop, in which case it was the test case that had the error. | 22:54 |
xnox | phillw: ok, let me peak at the logs. | 22:55 |
phillw | hence my comments on the bug. | 22:55 |
wxl | phillw: sooooooooo this isn't just generic for everything? i'm still confused about these new testcases. i guess i'll open every app | 22:55 |
balloons | wxl, the live session tests are really bad :-) | 22:55 |
wxl | balloons: so maybe i'll just do nothing XO | 22:55 |
phillw | wxl: when you have time, you will be taking the time to write test cases for lubuntu specific apps :D | 22:56 |
balloons | I gutted them mostly while converting to css and left basically a call to test | 22:56 |
wxl | omg thx phillw | 22:56 |
balloons | if you boot the live session now, the understanding is to play around and smoke test | 22:56 |
wxl | i have no clue how to test ibus, just for the record | 22:56 |
phillw | wxl: that is why I have pencilled in 13.04 for ours! | 22:57 |
wxl | ok system profiler is funky. seems to work but lots of empty dialogs | 22:57 |
phillw | not a snow-flake in hells chance of getting them done for 12.10 :) | 22:57 |
wxl | np np | 22:58 |
wxl | however it was you that got me all excited about the new tracker ad test cases phillw XD | 22:58 |
phillw | wxl: yes, we have a new system that can be updated and accepts user contributions. This is a major change to how things work! | 22:59 |
phillw | which reminds me, I have to update the instructions..... drat :P | 22:59 |
phillw | ahh well, 3 hours still remaining to grab the 64 bit lubuntu alternate iso. It's midnight here.... sounds like a good time to go to bed :) | 23:02 |
phillw | catch you all later! | 23:03 |
wxl | l8s | 23:03 |
phillw | balloons: can you check with riddel / scott to see if they're happy to use the alternate iso test cases for kubuntu. They are distro agnostic, so there shouldn't be a problem but I'd prefer one of them gave the okay. | 23:06 |
phillw | and now... for bed :D | 23:06 |
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