=== stgraber_ is now known as stgraber === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [09:18] Welcome to Ubuntu QA and Testing | http://qa.ubuntu.com/ | Currently testing Quantal Beta2 Candidates | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com === jibel changed the topic of #ubuntu-testing to: Welcome to Ubuntu QA and Testing | http://qa.ubuntu.com/ | Currently testing Quantal Beta2 Candidates | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [10:15] hello. testing quantal desktop. After successfully installing it, when I logged in, I could see Amazon icon on the launcher. after i clicked it once, I was properly directed to the Amazon site but the icon disappeared altogether from the launcher. could that be a bug? === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:15] guten morgen [13:17] balloons, LOL [13:34] nearly morning here [13:35] :) [13:35] here is 9:35 PM at night [13:40] 15:40 PM here :D [13:40] ;P [15:21] whew.. conversion script is almost ready [15:39] Is mago project still alive? [15:39] and used in ubuntu? [15:39] xnox, to my knowledge no [15:40] ara can likely give the info on it's status [15:40] and history [15:42] balloons: there is some code in ubiquity to run tests under LDTP and possibly mago.... but I have no clue how to run those. [15:42] * xnox really really wants gui testing of ubiquity [15:42] ahh.. that's a different story then [15:42] * balloons also wants more gui testing [15:43] I have some gui tests of ubiquity [15:43] I used xpresser to do it [15:44] https://launchpad.net/xpresser [15:44] If you are interested we hangout in #xpresser [15:46] there is a video of xpresser in action here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-xxBBPU9kU [15:47] * balloons watching video [15:47] I've messed about with sikuli with ideas likes this [15:48] imho, making hashes of the pixels in the box instead of screenshots would be better [15:48] balloons: xpresser is a clean room rewrite of xpresser, it's better because it runs on arm [15:49] robotfuel: ?! [15:49] balloons: I mean xpresser is a clean room rewrite of skiuli [15:49] heh [15:49] wow.. wonder how I missed that [15:49] sikuli even [15:52] balloons: launch orca & add audio recorder & compare audio record =) [15:53] also recording video of the run would be great to later "view" the failures. [15:53] * xnox like [15:53] indeed.. [15:53] robotfuel: did you say you had something for ubiquity already? [15:54] this needs to be able to watch for on-screen changes, read pixel colors, and use hashes :-) [15:54] xnox: yes, it's for oem-config which is a little different than ubiquity. [15:54] robotfuel: where? [15:54] an automated oem install/ [15:55] ? [15:55] balloons: yes [15:55] where? where? where? is it in jenkins yet? [15:58] * balloons thinks you made xnox REALLY excited.. [15:58] the code is not public, was for an OEM. it requires an older version of xpresser because it didn't have special keypress support when I wrote it. I will update it put it on my launchpad page [15:58] fair enough. [15:59] xnox: I'll ping you when I upload it [15:59] robotfuel, is there ideas for further features? ala, what I mentioned.. [16:00] balloons: you can make a blueprint or we can accept a merge request if you have a patch :) [16:00] xnox, for ubiquity, I imagine writing the script to test it would be straightforward.. it's more the infrastructure around running and reporting it I'd guess === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz [16:01] balloons: as long as utah boots ubiquity-cd with the right amount of disks, I can fake the rest of the setup I need on the disks, to exercise ubiquity. [16:01] balloons: and as long as utah will let me reboot the vm, I'm fine. [16:02] xnox, I already have ideas on how I would want to write such tests for long-term maintaince [16:02] anyways.. this is like early xmas.. have to get through the work for this cycle first :-) [16:03] balloons: maybe we should discuss this a bit further =) cause I had some ideas as well. [16:03] balloons: are you at uds-r? [16:03] xnox, yes [16:03] I used an upstart job to start my xpresser script that ran through oem-config. [16:03] mm.. your using pyatspi [16:04] robotfuel, ok, so how's performance, given your taking physical screenshots? (I was wondering if you had something special to get x buffer access) [16:06] balloons: export DISPLAY=:0 [16:06] xnox, yes I think we should discuss @ UDS.. but we could do mockups before that I'm sure [16:07] ohh.. window manipulation is a must as well [16:09] balloons, xnox did you look at https://launchpad.net/autopilot ? [16:09] thanks for sharing robotfuel.. neat stuff [16:09] jibel, yes I also know of autopilot, but I've not seen the latest stuff they have [16:09] for UI testing I think it's a very valid option, not sure how mature glib support is but it's a great tool [16:10] * xnox too many frameworks.... [16:10] and too few working correctly [16:11] utah needs to bind them all :-) [16:12] anyways, safe to say xnox something will happen with this next cycle [16:12] dholbach is also working with pitti on similar things.. [16:12] hmm.... [16:13] * balloons goes back the conversions === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:57] xnox, ping ara / davmor2 / jibel to run GUI testing :-) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:09] whew, ok, I think most of the isotracker testcases are migrated now to the new dt/dd format [18:10] this is an example: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/238/builds/24168/testcases/1301/results. Notice we have bolding and italics now for action, expected result [18:10] let me know if anyone is finding old legacy testcases looking like this: This is a legacy testcase, content is only available here: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases [18:11] plars, jibel ^^ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:45] balloons: did you sort the typo out on [18:45] auto-resieze? [18:45] yea [18:45] balloons: ignore, I hit return instead of delete! [18:45] I've just replied to warren. [18:46] i do think it is corrupt install media. [18:47] looks like a respin for Desktop images is in the works. [18:57] Hey all, how's testing going? [18:59] hello adam_g [18:59] bah.. autocomplete [18:59] hiyas ade [18:59] hello ade [18:59] lol.. DYAC :) [18:59] Hey, phillw, balloons [19:07] phillw: Updated my wiki with some basic info today! Nothing special but it's a start. Many thanks for setting that up for me again :o) [19:09] ade: yvw, with the disapearance of the mentoring system, just ask if you want assistance on anything. [19:14] phillw: Cheers phill, that's very much appreciated. [19:35] Image almost burnt, then getting stuck into the beta 2 tests. Lot's of activity in the testcases during today which is very good to see! [19:36] :-) [19:36] ade: yeah, balloons has been busy doing the conversions to the new css theme :) [19:36] let me know if you notice anything off on them [19:37] balloons: lol, should be ok today as have my testing head on :oP [19:38] balloons: this could be fun, they've put off the desktop respins until tomorrow. Nice to see lots of testing time left for QA :P [19:45] Might have found a general bug already... or shall I say it found me! Plugged usb headphones in, switched to profile in sound manager, no sound... then push volume up to 25%, no sound.... push volume over 30%... [19:45] ubuntu-bugs bleeding ears [19:45] did someone else notice that when you hover over a bug in some cases not the whole tooltip is visible in the browser window? Happens when I hover over the 'bugs to look for' list. http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/qa_tt.png [19:46] yofel, yes [19:46] actually there is a bug for it [19:46] ok :) [19:46] * balloons wonders why we didn't fix that in the lst round of updates [19:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1035503 [19:47] Ubuntu bug 1035503 in Ubuntu QA Website "Bug description yellow boxes exceed browser window dimensions." [Low,Confirmed] [19:47] feature ;P [19:48] yea, it works for me, but I'm guessing if you have a smaller screen it could get cut off if the width isn't wide enough [19:49] well, happens with firefox maximized to 1600px width here, so can't be that rare [19:49] yofel, lol.. I have 2560 pixels [19:50] ok, I can't keep up with that. Largest that I have here is 1920 ^^ [19:50] lololol.. works on my box ;-) not really, yea, but thanks for reporting [19:50] njin! [19:50] the man himself [20:02] balloons: New testcases are great and look great too [20:03] glad you like them.. knome and stgraber were a big part.. as was everyone else who helped migrate them :-) [20:03] :) [20:03] they do look nice indeed, nice work :) [20:50] balloons, hallo, it's too late, see you tomorrow [20:51] balloons, can you take a look at the bugs i've reported in the unity track, because I think that as usual ubuntu became unstable around beta2 release and i've got to refresh it ' [20:55] Is there a way to report a bug during the install process? aka during the unity install process. [21:00] Can anyone reproduce this... press space during 'amber screen' > select language > then select 'Install Ubuntu' .... the following screen with select language installation is blank. [21:00] *'installation language' even [21:01] Oh, on Ubuntu 12.10 lol [21:05] ade, what do you mean? [21:07] Am getting a blank ubiquity screen during install... the steps above recreate how I got to it in Ubuntu 12.10 [21:07] blank as in completely blank? [21:08] no buttons? no text? [21:08] Has the language select list on the left, but the screen on the right is completely blank [21:08] that sounds ok [21:08] you have buttons? [21:08] suppose a screenshot would help here ;-) [21:09] screenshot coming up, 2 mins... [21:12] Newbie question... Best way to upload a screenshot?? [21:15] ade: I use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add [21:15] then just pop the link on here :) [21:17] phillw: Thanks phill, not advisable to send files through irc then? Rick click on name and 'send a file' [21:17] ade it's easier to just pop them on there, they autodelete after 14 days. [21:18] I don't know if ubuntu have a version of their own outside of the wiki system. [21:18] Makes sense, I use pastebin a lot so imagebin makes a lot of sense lol [21:18] balloons: http://imagebin.org/229801 [21:19] ade, yep, that [21:20] ahh.. I saw you dcc snow [21:20] heh [21:20] i think I auto bounce them [21:20] so ade,that looks correct to me [21:20] if your connected to the inet, you should see a note about the release notes [21:21] lol yeah tried. Ok then cool, always good to check first :o) [21:23] and yes, release notes text and links display ok with a inet connection [21:30] balloons: can you quickly check if this is a general ubiquity issue "But there is a Ubiquity issue on the 'Preparing to Install Lubuntu Screen' the is plugged to a power source is missing" as per step 3 of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1301/info [21:31] phillw, ahh [21:31] are you on a laptop? [21:32] I am, but not got a recent image to test. it's come in via L-QA [21:33] I'll pull in the lubuntu 64 bit tonight (it takes ~ 4 hours to grab an image) [21:33] Right that's me done for the evening. Managed to break out of the Ubuntu mandatory tests and do a couple (all-be-it, very easy) run-once tests. Thanks for your patience and advice, am starting to get to grips with the basics of QA testing! === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:34] excellent :-) [21:34] phillw, it will only show if the hw it's running on is indeed a laptop [21:36] ade: great news, you will soon get the hang of it! [21:38] balloons: then we need to edit the test case :) [21:44] phillw, be my guest good sir [21:44] you can see the new goodness in there [21:44] :-) [21:45] yeah, I'm on it... just dealing with a wiki-editor job :P [21:52] thx phillw [22:01] * phillw keeps fingers crossed :) (22:53:41) XXXXXX: Thanks though! If all goes well I'll never see you again :p [22:16] balloons: edit done [22:33] ty phillw [22:42] am i the only one that finds the live session suggestion to "use and execute the default applications" kind of vague. are we supposed to follow some specific procedure? just open them? [22:51] balloons: hopefully bug 1056473 is a real short lived bug :) [22:51] Launchpad bug 1056473 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "On the screen Preparing to install FAMILY,Is plugged to a power source is missing." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056473 [22:53] wxl: the test once cases for lubuntu have not yet been started. they are planned! (Near the bootom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates ) :) [22:53] phillw: how was it tested? [22:53] it will only be visible in the power-source capable systems where we can detect this. [22:54] e.g. real metal laptops, on which laptop-detect worked. Or for example I saw either VMWare or Oracle's virtualbox export laptop-mode/battery levels to the quantal live CD [22:54] xnox: I have asked the OP to confirm if it was a desktop or laptop he was installing on. from my chat with balloons it would seem likely it was a desktop, in which case it was the test case that had the error. [22:55] phillw: ok, let me peak at the logs. [22:55] hence my comments on the bug. [22:55] phillw: sooooooooo this isn't just generic for everything? i'm still confused about these new testcases. i guess i'll open every app [22:55] wxl, the live session tests are really bad :-) [22:55] balloons: so maybe i'll just do nothing XO [22:56] wxl: when you have time, you will be taking the time to write test cases for lubuntu specific apps :D [22:56] I gutted them mostly while converting to css and left basically a call to test [22:56] omg thx phillw [22:56] if you boot the live session now, the understanding is to play around and smoke test [22:56] i have no clue how to test ibus, just for the record [22:57] wxl: that is why I have pencilled in 13.04 for ours! [22:57] ok system profiler is funky. seems to work but lots of empty dialogs [22:57] not a snow-flake in hells chance of getting them done for 12.10 :) [22:58] np np [22:58] however it was you that got me all excited about the new tracker ad test cases phillw XD [22:59] wxl: yes, we have a new system that can be updated and accepts user contributions. This is a major change to how things work! [22:59] which reminds me, I have to update the instructions..... drat :P [23:02] ahh well, 3 hours still remaining to grab the 64 bit lubuntu alternate iso. It's midnight here.... sounds like a good time to go to bed :) [23:03] catch you all later! [23:03] l8s [23:06] balloons: can you check with riddel / scott to see if they're happy to use the alternate iso test cases for kubuntu. They are distro agnostic, so there shouldn't be a problem but I'd prefer one of them gave the okay. [23:06] and now... for bed :D