[00:02] <wrst> ha ha chris4585 how so? :)
[00:02] <chris4585> just everything being new and awesome on 7.10 with compiz was beautiful and awesome
[00:03] <wrst> very true
[00:03] <chris4585> in someways its the same but totally different today..
[00:05] <wrst> yeah and now what was great in 7.10 looks a little not so much dated but not as fancy i suppose
[00:16] <chris4585> yeah
[00:17] <chris4585> compiz is more of a novelty now I guess, best thing about it was the cube for me and switching desktops
[00:24] <wrst> chris4585: yep exactly
[00:24] <wrst> and now i really really like how gnome-shell does the desktop switching
[00:24] <wrst> its not as fancy but better organized
[00:25]  * wrst is probably a minority on liking anything gnome-shell does
[00:25] <chris4585> I suppose, with gnome shell I still need openbox/compiz like scroll switching
[00:26] <chris4585> wrst, not exactly, I love it way more than unity, it just needs certain extensions to make it awesome
[00:26] <wrst> you still have the ctl/alt up down arrow changing
[00:26] <wrst> chris4585: i can't argue with that
[00:26] <chris4585> yeah but there is a plugin to do what I want :)
[00:26] <wrst> :)
[00:27] <chris4585> I just wish there were more options like adding favorites to the bottom of the screen and always showing like a dock
[00:30] <chris4585> that is possible with extensions but sometimes extensions can be more buggy
[00:37] <chris4585> hrmm, I wonder why flash crashed? http://i.imgur.com/erZ8Z.jpg
[00:38] <chris4585> most of those videos aren't flash though, I'm glad it crashed it keeps my cpu temp down
[00:39] <chris4585> html5 <3
[00:43] <chris4585> actually, here we go http://i.imgur.com/jzjsm.png
[13:45] <wrst> good morning every one
[13:49] <wrst> morning alyawn
[13:49] <alyawn> morning
[13:49] <wrst> all going well?
[13:50] <alyawn> yep, how about you?
[13:50] <wrst> its good
[13:51] <alyawn> actually, I'm thinking about trying my hand at a screencast... but it seems my sound card doesn't have a MIX device so I can't capture mic input and program output at the same time :/
[13:52] <wrst> hmm that stinks
[13:52]  * wrst eyes xTEMPx
[13:53] <alyawn> yeah.. will probably just end up recording mic on another box...
[13:53] <alyawn> I seem to have a few old boxes lying around with nothing to do :)
[13:54] <wrst> ha ha so they are now tape recorders? :)
[13:55] <alyawn> yes
[14:26] <wrst> wb alyawn
[14:27] <alyawn> thanks...
[14:27] <wrst> we seem to be the only ones awake
[14:27] <alyawn> updated my kernel
[14:27] <alyawn> yes
[14:27] <wrst> i did that a day or so ago i think i'm running 3.5.4
[14:28] <wrst> well on my laptop 3.2.0 on my server and 2.6.32 on a debian box
[14:28] <wrst> i have all sorts of kernels running wild, not that anyoen cares :)
[14:29] <alyawn> yeah... me too
[14:30] <alyawn> trying to get ffmpeg to capture the correct audio null output...
[15:32] <wrst> mac9416: ??? really its you??? !!!
[15:32] <wrst> alyawn: ffmpeg is great but i can never remember how to do anythign with it
[15:33] <mac9416> wrst, it's the real me.  :-D
[15:33] <wrst> how have you been doing mac9416? and good to see you back
[15:33] <mac9416> Been mia for a while working n computerless project.
[15:34] <mac9416> *on... projects
[15:34] <wrst> a computerless project ?
[15:34] <wrst> how could you do that?
[15:34] <wrst> :)
[15:34] <mac9416> Haha, yeah.
[15:34] <mac9416> Because there was tons of logic involved.:-D
[15:34] <mac9416> Just a min...
[15:35] <wrst> well we have waited over a year mac9416 i guess a minute more will work
[15:42] <mac9416> wrst, I'm actually in a college classroom now. Class just ended.
[15:42] <mac9416> I only have one class that I can get completely away with goofing off.  :-P
[15:43] <wrst> ha ha mac9416
[15:43] <wrst> keep up the good work ;)
[15:43] <mac9416> Hehe
[15:43] <mac9416> It's about C++
[15:43] <mac9416> No biggie.
[15:43] <mac9416> Introductory stuff.
[15:43]  * wrst is no programmer its all greek to him
[15:43] <mac9416> Haha, that's cool.
[15:43] <mac9416> I got a math class until 12:15.
[15:44] <mac9416> I'll hop back on over lunch and catch up/
[15:44] <mac9416> Don't worry, I mean to be on plenty.
[15:44] <wrst> see you then mac9416!
[15:44] <mac9416> Cya!
[15:55]  * wesleystout seems to have lost his server
[17:27]  * cyberanger doesn't beleve it
[17:28] <cyberanger> mac9416
[17:32] <mac9416> wrst, lunchtime.  :-)
[17:33] <mac9416> wrst has left the building.
[17:44] <cyberanger> hey mac9416
[17:44] <cyberanger> how's it going?
[17:44] <mac9416> Hey, cyberanger! Greatish!  :-) How are you doin'?
[17:45] <cyberanger> doing alright, troubles with life
[17:46] <mac9416> Meh
[17:46] <mac9416> Life sucks that way.  :-/
[17:47] <mac9416> I'll get you to fill me in soon, cyberanger. I gotta go make another class. :-/
[17:47] <mac9416> ttyiab
[17:47] <cyberanger> yeah, juggling work & projects
[17:47] <cyberanger> see ya soon I hope mac9416
[17:50] <wesleystout> cyberanger: what's up
[17:51] <cyberanger> not much
[17:51] <wesleystout> cyberanger: my server is offline... i'm worried i hope it is ok wondering around by itself
[17:51] <cyberanger> switched openvpn from tun to tap, glad I did that
[17:52] <cyberanger> ouch, power, bad dsl, buckshot, hrm?
[17:52] <wesleystout> cyberanger: i don't know
[17:52] <wesleystout> i suspect dsl our power is never off this long
[18:18] <wesleystout> good morning chris4585
[18:37] <wesleystout> chris4585: wb
[18:38] <chris4585> thanks wesleystout
[18:39] <wesleystout> chris4585: my server is offline... driving me nuts
[18:41] <chris4585> wesleystout, that sucks
[18:41] <chris4585> you have a vpn or something?
[18:41] <wesleystout> chris4585: no i just use quassel for irc and run my core on the server
[18:42] <wesleystout> i mean i do tunnel in via ssh on occassion if i'm needing to do much on my home network remotely
[18:42] <chris4585> ah
[18:44] <wesleystout> oh pidgin i don't like you!
[18:47] <Unit193> http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-setup-0.8.0.exe
[18:49] <wesleystout> Unit193: i have that but wasn't wanting so many windows open
[18:49] <wesleystout> gotta get my server up and running this is cramping my style!
[18:51] <Unit193> Doesn't it minimize to tray?
[18:53] <Unit193> wesleystout: "Hide to system tray on close" ?
[18:53] <wesleystout> yes but its just not a good irc client :)
[19:53] <wesleystout> mac9416: wb
[19:53] <mac9416> Hi, wesleystout!
[19:54] <wesleystout> i was going to tell you earlier how you need to get always on irc... then my server went down...
[19:54] <mac9416> Just got done with classes for the day.
[19:54] <mac9416> lol
[19:54] <wesleystout> so i'm not mentioning anything :)
[19:54] <mac9416> Is it a virtual irc client service?
[19:55] <wesleystout> no its my server at home... i think my internet tanked
[19:55] <wesleystout> i run quassel-core on it
[19:58] <mac9416> Hmmm, what's quassel-core do?
[19:59] <wesleystout> it is what actually connects to irc, it runs on a server then you can run quasse-client on your linux, mac, windows machines to connect to the core
[19:59] <wesleystout> its sorta like a bouncer sorta like screen + irssi
[19:59] <wesleystout> all with a pretty gui
[19:59] <wesleystout> well the client the core is just there running
[20:00] <mac9416> Ah, that's pretty neat.
[20:00] <mac9416> My home internet's too sketchy to do that.
[20:01] <mac9416> I could plug one of those wall-socket computers in and just leave it here.
[20:01] <wesleystout> mine is generally pretty solid i fear there is something wrong with my modem or router
[20:01] <mac9416> Ah
[20:01] <mac9416> Expensive hardware problems stink.
[20:01] <wesleystout> i have a little atom machien running it does file/print serving etc for me
[20:02] <mac9416> Swet
[20:02] <wesleystout> but i may move to a raspberry pi i think it would do everything i'm currently doing in a lot nicer form factor
[20:02] <mac9416> Atom being the processor?
[20:02] <wesleystout> yes
[20:02] <mac9416> Nice.
[20:02] <mac9416> Rpi would be cool.
[20:02] <wesleystout> its an early one
[20:02] <mac9416> I looked at getting one a while back.
[20:02] <wesleystout> yeah i think i could use 2 of them and maybe replace what i have
[20:02] <mac9416> Sweet.
[20:03] <mac9416> I sank my money in a Sys76 for school.  :-)
[20:03] <wesleystout> mac9416: that is prettty cool my next laptop if i can will be one of those
[20:04] <mac9416> It's sweet.
[20:04] <mac9416> Battery only reaches 70% capacity, but they're sending a new one.
[20:04] <wesleystout> that's cool
[20:05] <mac9416> Cust. service has been awesome.
[20:05] <wesleystout> i run arch linux on my "desktop" type computers but i'm sure they wouldnt' mind if i didn't keep ubuntu on it :)
[20:05] <mac9416> Haha, nah.
[20:05] <mac9416> Why Arch?
[20:05] <wesleystout> well for one i just don't like unity, i prefer gnome shell and ubuntu's gnome shell just isn't good
[20:05] <chris4585> arch is amazing
[20:06] <mac9416> I might oughta try it.
[20:06] <mac9416> I'm loving Unity, tbh.
[20:06] <wesleystout> and well i really like arch for desktop it works nice no bloat unless you want bloat
[20:06] <chris4585> its a bit more advanced, manual install and setup
[20:06] <mac9416> That's a big plus.
[20:06] <wesleystout> mac9416: i have no real issue with unity but its jsut not my thing
[20:06] <mac9416> I'd survive.  ;-)
[20:06] <mac9416> Yeah, I get that.
[20:06] <wesleystout> but i run ubuntu one on arch etc so i have my cake and eat it too
[20:07] <chris4585> wesleystout, one thing I love about arch, is you don't have to question if anything is in the aur... it just is
[20:07] <wesleystout> but mac9416 that is mainly why i went to it and now that I'm there i see no reason to go back
[20:07] <wesleystout> chris4585: yep and no adding ppa's!!!
[20:07] <chris4585> indeed
[20:07] <mac9416> aur?
[20:07] <wesleystout> i think the aur is "cleaner" than ppas
[20:08] <wesleystout> mac9416: its sorta arch's version of ppas AUR = arch user repository
[20:08] <mac9416> Ah
[20:08] <chris4585> kind of like the community repo, its pretty well maintained too
[20:08] <wesleystout> software not included in the official repos is there but its not just thrown in with everything else you use a different tool to install use it etc
[20:08] <mac9416> Hm, that's cool.
[20:09] <wesleystout> but like the ppas sometimes packages get abandoned etc so its not perfect but its still nice
[20:09] <mac9416> A little counter-intuitive for an Ubuntu mind.
[20:09] <wesleystout> mac9416: i wouldn't suggest arch for my mom or anything and if i needed a system up and running quick i would use ubuntu
[20:09] <chris4585> one thing that is nice, anything popular like icons, or themes are usually uploaded to aur also
[20:10] <wesleystout> chris4585: ubuntu one is now in the official arch repos i think that is kinda neat :)
[20:10] <wesleystout> and there was work on unity i don't know how that is going
[20:10] <chris4585> wesleystout, oh? that is actually cool
[20:11] <chris4585> I don't really use ubuntu one though, or any cloud service
[20:11] <wesleystout> i'm fond of it and dropbox
[20:11] <wesleystout> also the ubuntone music store is avaialbe in rhythm box etc
[20:12] <wesleystout> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oSuQ5ICthI
[20:12] <wesleystout> that shows unity on arch
[20:14] <chris4585> wesleystout, you can get cinnamon now too, which is neat
[20:14] <chris4585> its probably been on arch for a while now
[20:14] <wesleystout> yes if you are into that sort of thing  chris4585 :p
[20:15] <chris4585> I'm not
[20:16] <wesleystout> cinnamon to me is a little silly when you the linux mint guys could have just used extensions to gnome shell to accomplish their goals
[20:16] <wesleystout> i think it would be interesting to see a distro take and make extensions to make gnome shell what they want it to be
[20:18] <chris4585> yeah
[20:18] <chris4585> that way they only have to kind of patch gnome to what they want and update their patch every gnome release
[20:19] <chris4585> BUT, one thing I do like is that they did fork nautilus 3.4, because nautilis 3.6 sucks...
[20:19] <chris4585> I'm glad the upgrade hasn't hit arch yet
[20:19] <chris4585> I really don't want to cross that road yet
[20:19] <wesleystout> i hear that is the case i haven't tried it yet
[20:20] <wesleystout> removing features seems silly
[20:21] <chris4585> it angers me honestly, I love gnome but really despise the devs
[20:21] <chris4585> they make stupid decisions sometimes :)
[20:22] <wesleystout> agreed chris4585!
[22:28] <wrst> ahhg