[00:02] ha ha chris4585 how so? :) [00:02] just everything being new and awesome on 7.10 with compiz was beautiful and awesome [00:03] very true [00:03] in someways its the same but totally different today.. [00:05] yeah and now what was great in 7.10 looks a little not so much dated but not as fancy i suppose [00:16] yeah [00:17] compiz is more of a novelty now I guess, best thing about it was the cube for me and switching desktops [00:24] chris4585: yep exactly [00:24] and now i really really like how gnome-shell does the desktop switching [00:24] its not as fancy but better organized [00:25] * wrst is probably a minority on liking anything gnome-shell does [00:25] I suppose, with gnome shell I still need openbox/compiz like scroll switching [00:26] wrst, not exactly, I love it way more than unity, it just needs certain extensions to make it awesome [00:26] you still have the ctl/alt up down arrow changing [00:26] chris4585: i can't argue with that [00:26] yeah but there is a plugin to do what I want :) [00:26] :) [00:27] I just wish there were more options like adding favorites to the bottom of the screen and always showing like a dock [00:30] that is possible with extensions but sometimes extensions can be more buggy [00:37] hrmm, I wonder why flash crashed? http://i.imgur.com/erZ8Z.jpg [00:38] most of those videos aren't flash though, I'm glad it crashed it keeps my cpu temp down [00:39] html5 <3 [00:43] actually, here we go http://i.imgur.com/jzjsm.png [13:45] good morning every one [13:49] morning alyawn [13:49] morning [13:49] all going well? [13:50] yep, how about you? [13:50] its good [13:51] actually, I'm thinking about trying my hand at a screencast... but it seems my sound card doesn't have a MIX device so I can't capture mic input and program output at the same time :/ [13:52] hmm that stinks [13:52] * wrst eyes xTEMPx [13:53] yeah.. will probably just end up recording mic on another box... [13:53] I seem to have a few old boxes lying around with nothing to do :) [13:54] ha ha so they are now tape recorders? :) [13:55] yes [14:26] wb alyawn [14:27] thanks... [14:27] we seem to be the only ones awake [14:27] updated my kernel [14:27] yes [14:27] i did that a day or so ago i think i'm running 3.5.4 [14:28] well on my laptop 3.2.0 on my server and 2.6.32 on a debian box [14:28] i have all sorts of kernels running wild, not that anyoen cares :) [14:29] yeah... me too [14:30] trying to get ffmpeg to capture the correct audio null output... [15:32] mac9416: ??? really its you??? !!! [15:32] alyawn: ffmpeg is great but i can never remember how to do anythign with it [15:33] wrst, it's the real me. :-D [15:33] how have you been doing mac9416? and good to see you back [15:33] Been mia for a while working n computerless project. [15:34] *on... projects [15:34] a computerless project ? [15:34] how could you do that? [15:34] :) [15:34] Haha, yeah. [15:34] Because there was tons of logic involved.:-D [15:34] Just a min... [15:35] well we have waited over a year mac9416 i guess a minute more will work [15:42] wrst, I'm actually in a college classroom now. Class just ended. [15:42] I only have one class that I can get completely away with goofing off. :-P [15:43] ha ha mac9416 [15:43] keep up the good work ;) [15:43] Hehe [15:43] It's about C++ [15:43] No biggie. [15:43] Introductory stuff. [15:43] * wrst is no programmer its all greek to him [15:43] Haha, that's cool. [15:43] I got a math class until 12:15. [15:44] I'll hop back on over lunch and catch up/ [15:44] Don't worry, I mean to be on plenty. [15:44] see you then mac9416! [15:44] Cya! === wrst is now known as wesleystout [15:55] * wesleystout seems to have lost his server [17:27] * cyberanger doesn't beleve it [17:28] mac9416 [17:32] wrst, lunchtime. :-) [17:33] wrst has left the building. [17:44] hey mac9416 [17:44] how's it going? [17:44] Hey, cyberanger! Greatish! :-) How are you doin'? [17:45] doing alright, troubles with life [17:46] Meh [17:46] Life sucks that way. :-/ [17:47] I'll get you to fill me in soon, cyberanger. I gotta go make another class. :-/ [17:47] ttyiab [17:47] yeah, juggling work & projects [17:47] see ya soon I hope mac9416 [17:50] cyberanger: what's up [17:51] not much [17:51] cyberanger: my server is offline... i'm worried i hope it is ok wondering around by itself [17:51] switched openvpn from tun to tap, glad I did that [17:52] ouch, power, bad dsl, buckshot, hrm? [17:52] cyberanger: i don't know [17:52] i suspect dsl our power is never off this long [18:18] good morning chris4585 [18:37] chris4585: wb [18:38] thanks wesleystout [18:39] chris4585: my server is offline... driving me nuts [18:41] wesleystout, that sucks [18:41] you have a vpn or something? [18:41] chris4585: no i just use quassel for irc and run my core on the server [18:42] i mean i do tunnel in via ssh on occassion if i'm needing to do much on my home network remotely [18:42] ah [18:44] oh pidgin i don't like you! [18:47] http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-setup-0.8.0.exe [18:49] Unit193: i have that but wasn't wanting so many windows open [18:49] gotta get my server up and running this is cramping my style! [18:51] Doesn't it minimize to tray? [18:53] wesleystout: "Hide to system tray on close" ? [18:53] yes but its just not a good irc client :) [19:53] mac9416: wb [19:53] Hi, wesleystout! [19:54] i was going to tell you earlier how you need to get always on irc... then my server went down... [19:54] Just got done with classes for the day. [19:54] lol [19:54] so i'm not mentioning anything :) [19:54] Is it a virtual irc client service? [19:55] no its my server at home... i think my internet tanked [19:55] i run quassel-core on it [19:58] Hmmm, what's quassel-core do? [19:59] it is what actually connects to irc, it runs on a server then you can run quasse-client on your linux, mac, windows machines to connect to the core [19:59] its sorta like a bouncer sorta like screen + irssi [19:59] all with a pretty gui [19:59] well the client the core is just there running [20:00] Ah, that's pretty neat. [20:00] My home internet's too sketchy to do that. [20:01] I could plug one of those wall-socket computers in and just leave it here. [20:01] mine is generally pretty solid i fear there is something wrong with my modem or router [20:01] Ah [20:01] Expensive hardware problems stink. [20:01] i have a little atom machien running it does file/print serving etc for me [20:02] Swet [20:02] but i may move to a raspberry pi i think it would do everything i'm currently doing in a lot nicer form factor [20:02] Atom being the processor? [20:02] yes [20:02] Nice. [20:02] Rpi would be cool. [20:02] its an early one [20:02] I looked at getting one a while back. [20:02] yeah i think i could use 2 of them and maybe replace what i have [20:02] Sweet. [20:03] I sank my money in a Sys76 for school. :-) [20:03] mac9416: that is prettty cool my next laptop if i can will be one of those [20:04] It's sweet. [20:04] Battery only reaches 70% capacity, but they're sending a new one. [20:04] that's cool [20:05] Cust. service has been awesome. [20:05] i run arch linux on my "desktop" type computers but i'm sure they wouldnt' mind if i didn't keep ubuntu on it :) [20:05] Haha, nah. [20:05] Why Arch? [20:05] well for one i just don't like unity, i prefer gnome shell and ubuntu's gnome shell just isn't good [20:05] arch is amazing [20:06] I might oughta try it. [20:06] I'm loving Unity, tbh. [20:06] and well i really like arch for desktop it works nice no bloat unless you want bloat [20:06] its a bit more advanced, manual install and setup [20:06] That's a big plus. [20:06] mac9416: i have no real issue with unity but its jsut not my thing [20:06] I'd survive. ;-) [20:06] Yeah, I get that. [20:06] but i run ubuntu one on arch etc so i have my cake and eat it too [20:07] wesleystout, one thing I love about arch, is you don't have to question if anything is in the aur... it just is [20:07] but mac9416 that is mainly why i went to it and now that I'm there i see no reason to go back [20:07] chris4585: yep and no adding ppa's!!! [20:07] indeed [20:07] aur? [20:07] i think the aur is "cleaner" than ppas [20:08] mac9416: its sorta arch's version of ppas AUR = arch user repository [20:08] Ah [20:08] kind of like the community repo, its pretty well maintained too [20:08] software not included in the official repos is there but its not just thrown in with everything else you use a different tool to install use it etc [20:08] Hm, that's cool. [20:09] but like the ppas sometimes packages get abandoned etc so its not perfect but its still nice [20:09] A little counter-intuitive for an Ubuntu mind. [20:09] mac9416: i wouldn't suggest arch for my mom or anything and if i needed a system up and running quick i would use ubuntu [20:09] one thing that is nice, anything popular like icons, or themes are usually uploaded to aur also [20:10] chris4585: ubuntu one is now in the official arch repos i think that is kinda neat :) [20:10] and there was work on unity i don't know how that is going [20:10] wesleystout, oh? that is actually cool [20:11] I don't really use ubuntu one though, or any cloud service [20:11] i'm fond of it and dropbox [20:11] also the ubuntone music store is avaialbe in rhythm box etc [20:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oSuQ5ICthI [20:12] that shows unity on arch [20:14] wesleystout, you can get cinnamon now too, which is neat [20:14] its probably been on arch for a while now [20:14] yes if you are into that sort of thing chris4585 :p [20:15] I'm not [20:16] cinnamon to me is a little silly when you the linux mint guys could have just used extensions to gnome shell to accomplish their goals [20:16] i think it would be interesting to see a distro take and make extensions to make gnome shell what they want it to be [20:18] yeah [20:18] that way they only have to kind of patch gnome to what they want and update their patch every gnome release [20:19] BUT, one thing I do like is that they did fork nautilus 3.4, because nautilis 3.6 sucks... [20:19] I'm glad the upgrade hasn't hit arch yet [20:19] I really don't want to cross that road yet [20:19] i hear that is the case i haven't tried it yet [20:20] removing features seems silly [20:21] it angers me honestly, I love gnome but really despise the devs [20:21] they make stupid decisions sometimes :) [20:22] agreed chris4585! [22:28] ahhg