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Kiloso/04:44
Squirmmorning04:57
Kiloshi jrgns Squirm 04:57
jrgnsmorning K04:57
jrgnsmorning Squirm04:57
jrgnsnice and early04:57
Kilosya04:58
Squirmmeh04:58
Squirmalways :/04:58
Kiloshes still yawning methinks04:58
SquirmKilos: you have no idea04:58
Kiloslol04:58
Squirmthat's why I've started having a bath in the morning. wakes me up quickly04:59
Kilosah04:59
Squirmwow05:02
Squirmsummer must be here05:02
Squirmslept with my windows open and I'm fine05:02
Squirmeven though it's overcast now05:02
Kilosstill too cold here to do that05:06
Kilosdays are ok though05:06
magespawnmorning all05:31
Kiloshi magespawn 05:31
magespawnhow are things this morning Kilos?05:31
Kilosgood ty and you magespawn ?05:31
magespawnpeachy keen05:32
Kilosgoing through them links again05:32
Kilosdunno if i must put pc2s mac address in pc105:32
Kilosput the mac address of the interface you will be configuring05:34
magespawnnot sure, are youstill trying to get the shared network going?05:34
Kilosis he talking about pc2 as the interface im configuring05:35
Kilosyes, its become almost an obsession now that it worked once05:35
Kilosshowed that it can work so now it must05:36
magespawnthe interface is the network card of the pc you are working on05:36
Kilosaw05:36
Kilosand what is the cloned mac address05:37
Kilosmac addy showed on its own in nm05:38
magespawncloned mac address? I am not even sure what that is05:39
Kilosis the cloned addy the other pcs?05:39
Kiloshehe me neither05:39
Kilosim not sure what most of this is05:40
magespawnwell lets see what we can find05:46
Kilosim looking here now https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html05:47
Squirmmagespawn: sorry I disappeared last night. power died05:49
magespawnno worries Squirm05:50
magespawnKilos looks like a cloned mac address is so that the internet service provider thinks that the same pc is connected05:57
Kilosso then i must put the other ones addy in there?05:58
magespawnfor connections that can only take one pc05:58
Kilosoh05:58
magespawnlike your modem05:59
magespawnpc 2 would clone your pc1 mac address so that it can connect to the net using the modem05:59
Kilosthat has worked without the cloned addy entered so its not that05:59
magespawnwell then i am lost at this poitn06:00
magespawnpoint06:00
magespawnsorry06:00
Kilosnp06:00
Kilosill keep looking06:00
Kiloshi Tonberry 06:14
magespawnsee you all later06:14
Kilosgo well magespawn 06:15
magespawngotta work :(06:15
inetprogood mornings06:58
Kilosmorning inetpro 06:58
inetproeh Kilos, how goes it?06:58
Kilosgood ty and you inetpro ?06:59
Kiloslearning networking06:59
inetpronice07:00
Kilos8ta loves me07:00
Kilosand maaz hates me for all the google requests07:00
* inetpro had a nice long weekend with family afk07:01
Kilosthats good07:02
Kilosi go sort sheep and hoenders07:02
Kiloswbb07:02
Kiloshi zeref_server morgs drussell 07:39
drussellKilos: hey!07:40
morgsmorning07:40
jrgnsmorning morgs07:43
charlvngood morning08:12
charlvnMaaz: coffee on08:12
* Maaz starts grinding coffee08:12
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!08:16
charlvnMaaz: thanks08:24
Maazcharlvn: Sure08:25
Kilosmorning superfly Banlam bakuman 08:59
superflyhi Kilos09:02
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bakumanhi Kilos 09:24
Kilosyo not_found-droid 09:31
Kiloshey Trixar_za 09:32
not_found-droidHey uncle Kilos09:32
Kilosnuvolari, lewe jy nog na die naweek?09:32
Trixar_zaHey Kilos09:34
Squirmhi09:54
not_found-droidLunch time is always too short 09:56
Kiloslol09:56
Kilosto eat or what?09:56
not_found-droidOr what 09:57
not_found-droid:p09:57
Squirmlunch is still an hour away09:58
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Kilossigh11:29
magespawnafternoon Kilos11:38
Kiloshey magespawn 11:38
Kilosall the fiddling killed my network manager again11:38
Kilosand sound11:38
magespawnstill struggling with the shared internet connection?11:39
Kilostime for anbother clean install11:39
magespawnyou going to be expert at complete installs11:39
magespawnis there no another way?11:39
Kilosyeah i follow what the links say then next thing ugly things happen here11:39
Kiloslol11:39
Kilosim trying to purge what i can remember installing11:40
Kilosthen will reboot and see11:40
Kilosit spends 3 mins or so waiting for network connection before booting to gui11:40
magespawnmaybe each time do a step by step write up as you are doing the work11:41
magespawnthat sounds like it is trying to network boot11:41
Kilosyeah i think i will do that11:41
Kilosjust dunno which setting or command actually kills nm11:42
magespawnit is something i should do as well 11:42
Kilosluckily i install sakis 3g yesterday11:42
magespawna lot easier to reverse if you have the steps11:42
Kilosyesh but you cant reboot after each step to check what is the culprit11:43
Kilosits only after booting the probs show11:43
magespawncould use a clone the drive to a spare so that you can clone back when the systems is too broken11:43
Kiloslol the thing to do is to make a backup just before it breaks then its easy11:44
Kilosmaybe the clone carries the fault11:45
magespawnyup thats the idea11:46
magespawnbackup before breaking11:46
Kiloslol11:47
Kilosweird even sound went this time11:47
Kilosjust gonna reboot and see if purging helped11:51
ErichDoes anyone know where I can buy barebone Laptop for ubuntu install? 12:30
Erichin SA?12:30
magespawnErich do you mean one without an OS or just a low spec machine?13:10
superflyhe probably means without an OS13:41
superflyErich: a few people have tried, we've discussed it on the mailing list at length... the short answer is: nowhere13:42
tumbleweedalso, you aren't paying that much of a premium for windows, so it doesn't really matter13:43
superflyyeah, when I bought my netbook I just never gave Windows a chance to load :-D13:44
tumbleweedthe cost of windows is probably easily offset by the income from bundling crapware13:44
magespawnOverseas some of the manufacturers have removed win and given the buyer a rebate, true not much but there we go13:44
tumbleweedthe windows license used to allow you to get a "full refund" which could be interpreted as retail price13:45
tumbleweedbut that clause is long gone13:45
Thapshi,i really need someone to assist me with installing Django14:59
Kilosclean installed15:00
Thapspardon15:02
tonberryE352i believe Kilos was reffering to his own computer and not django15:02
Thapsoh lol...well is there anybody that can assist?15:04
superflyThaps: you're better off using something else, unless you have to use Django15:06
Thapssomething else like?15:06
superflyPyramid15:06
superflyit's lighter, and it doesn't hate Python15:06
superflyor flask, which is tiny compared to Django15:07
superflyactually, flask is probably a good one to start with15:07
superflyhttp://flask.pocoo.org/15:07
superflyhttp://www.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/about15:09
Thapshmmm, ok thanks alot, i didnt know about them, so you reckon i start off with them and see where they take me?15:10
superflyThaps: yes. Flask is nice and small, and teaches you more about exactly how the web works.15:14
Thapsok, thank you very much Superfly....you really are superfly lol hope it wont be too complex to install15:16
superflyThaps: no, it's fairly simple, but you also need to understand Python packaging15:16
superflyPython web frameworks are not like applications15:17
Thapsok thanks, im installing it right now15:23
magespawnsuperfly what would you use Flask for?15:36
superflymagespawn: writing some sort of small web application15:36
magespawnahh okay 15:36
superflylike a little online calendar, or a blog15:36
magespawndo you use it?15:37
superflythough if it starts becoming quite big (a blog is a non-trivial amount of work) then I'd use Pyramid15:37
superflynope, never actually ever used it15:37
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magespawnlater all on my way home15:45
Kiloshaha ya i clean installed15:54
Kilosthis networking is wearing my cdrom out15:55
Kiloshi inetpro_ plustwo 16:46
Kiloshey charlvn you been scarce hey16:46
magespawnhey Kilos17:12
Kiloshi Cantide conradvo not_found-droid highvoltage 17:21
Kilosso much work after a clean install without a backup17:22
not_found-droido/17:22
not_found-droid+117:22
not_found-droidBusy myself with that 17:22
Kiloshi smile 17:22
Kiloslol what happened not_found-droid 17:23
smilehoi :p17:23
highvoltagehi Kilos 17:23
not_found-droidInstalling lubuntu17:24
Kilosah just to try it out?17:24
Kilosi am comfy with unity and even more so after i install mate17:25
not_found-droidBut with mate there is zero unity... 17:25
Kilosyes so lekker and so much faster17:26
Kiloshehe17:26
Kilosbut you can still choose on booting17:27
Kilossjoe more rain and wind coming superfly 17:29
KilosMaaz, coffee on17:30
* Maaz flips the salt-timer17:30
superflyKilos: we get it before you do... I know all about it :-P17:31
Kiloslol thats what i mean big one coming to you not me17:31
Kiloswho has contact with maia? is she ok?17:32
Kilosand drubin ?17:32
Cantidehey Kilos, superfly, not_found-droid, highvoltage and magespawn 'o'17:33
Cantideand smile '-'17:33
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!17:34
Cantide'o'17:34
KilosMaaz, dankie man17:34
MaazGroot plesier my vriend17:34
smileCantide: :DD17:35
Cantide^^;17:35
Cantidehow is everyone?17:35
superflyhi Cantide17:35
superflytrying to get over this throat infection/migraine combination17:35
Kilosok ty and you?17:35
smileCantide: I'm ill :(17:35
Kilosweekend over so study lots17:36
Cantidesuperfly :-S smile :-S17:36
* Cantide quickly puts on a surgical mask17:36
Kiloseish superfly that sucks17:36
superflytelling me17:36
smileCantide: Well I'm almost dead, actually :p17:36
CantideKilos, i'm okay '-' and yeah... already done 13 pages today :)17:36
Cantidejust trying to get through dinner17:36
Kilosgood man17:36
Cantidesmile, so is everyone else :D17:36
smile:o17:37
Kilosah smile they looking for a geek to manage the pcs just other side the perly gates17:38
Cantidelol17:38
Kilosbut you gotta use ubuntu17:38
smile:)17:39
CantideI'm actually busy reading a book / poem about Satan getting kicked out of heaven :p17:39
smile:o17:39
CantideI guess he wasn't using Ubuntu :p17:39
Kiloslol17:39
Cantide288 page epic poem is not fun though ._.17:39
Kilosna its cause he is only a tiny snake17:39
Kilosnot a python17:40
Cantidehaha17:41
Cantidei heard something on the news today about an 8-metre python in Kansas17:41
Cantidemust be scary .-.17:41
Cantideread Paradise Lost though, it's a cool book, even for an atheist like me :p17:41
magespawnyup Cantide reticulated python 8m 159kgs17:42
Cantideoh oh oh, and some googling turned up a few results on how to get the TV card working :)17:42
Kiloslol they had one on tv last night. some twit in za keeps them as pets and this one swallowed a warming blanket cord plug and all17:42
Cantidemagespawn, yeah :D sounded nasty - eats rabbits, hogs and deer :D17:43
CantideKilos, hahaha! but poor snake :(17:43
magespawncould kill but not eat the average human17:43
Kilosthey took him to the vet and operated and got it out17:43
magespawnwhat is the poem?17:43
magespawnCantide^17:44
magespawni generally like snakes17:45
superflyI have a pet snake17:45
magespawnwhat kins?17:45
Cantidemagespawn, Paradise Lost - It's an epic - 288 pages :-S17:45
magespawnkind?17:46
magespawnmilton17:46
superflymagespawn: a corn smake17:46
Cantidemagespawn, yeah '-'17:46
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magespawnsuperfly try something a litle closer to home next time17:47
magespawnlittle17:47
magespawnCantide heavy reading17:47
Cantidemagespawn, indeed, but i'm putting off Chaucer17:48
magespawnis this all for your studies?17:49
Cantideyeah17:50
Cantidei enjoy the books though, so it's not too bad17:50
CantideShakespeare is a walk in the park now haha17:50
Cantideand reading doesn't really feel like studying :)17:50
magespawnhave not read anything like that for awhile17:51
Cantidei hadn't for about 10 years17:51
Cantideturns out it's not difficult to get back into17:52
Cantidecertainly easier now than during school17:52
magespawnconcentration and understanding both develop with time17:52
magespawnhttp://mashable.com/2012/09/25/ibm-mira-supercomputer/17:52
Kilosthat things massive magespawn 17:55
magespawnthat is a little light reading compared to the other stuff you read Cantide17:55
Kilosthey lucky they arent on mobile broadband17:56
magespawnlol17:56
Cantidehaha17:56
Cantidemagespawn, reading it now, thanks :)17:56
magespawni would like to see what they come up with17:56
magespawnhttp://laughingsquid.com/liquid-nitrogen-and-1500-ping-pong-balls/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+laughingsquid+%28Laughing+Squid%2918:00
smileyou can leave ?utm_source out ;)18:11
Cantidemagespawn, that is awesome :D18:14
magespawnpretty cool science is fun  18:32
magespawncopy and paste18:32
Kilosnight all of you. sleep tight18:32
Kilossee you morrow18:32
magespawnnight Kilos18:32
magespawnhttps://training.linuxfoundation.org/linux-tutorials18:34
Cantidehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw&feature=g-logo-xit18:35
Cantidehhahahaa18:35
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inetprohmm...18:39
inetprogood evening everybody18:40
Cantidehi inetpro '-'18:40
Squirmhi Cantide, inetpro 18:51
Cantidehey Squirm ^^18:51
magespawngood night all18:52
Squirmnight magespawn 18:52
drubinMaaz: tell Kilos Maiatoday is doing well just busy with work! I see her often 19:06
Maazdrubin: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode19:06
superflyohi drubin19:11
superflywe don't see you around these parts these days19:11
* inetpro wonders whether maiatoday can tell us whether drubin is doing ok these days19:52
Kerberohehe19:58
Kerberowell i can tell you drubin is doing quite fine19:59
inetproKerbero: thanks20:01
* inetpro feels better now20:01
drubin:)20:12
drubinsuperfly: Just busy20:12
drubinalso Kerbero still needs to come fix my remote ssh thing20:12
Kerberobring it to me20:13
Kerberonow20:13
inetprodrubin: nice to hear from you again20:19
inetprooh and Kerbero please fix that remote ssh thing for him so we can see more of him in here20:20
Kerberowell it is all up to him20:23
inetprohmm20:24
drubinKerbero: bit far20:27
drubininetpro: :)20:27
inetprodrubin: -_-20:46
drubininetpro: en nou?21:04
* inetpro falling asleep21:05

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