=== Trixar_zb is now known as Trix[a]r_za [04:44] o/ [04:57] morning [04:57] hi jrgns Squirm [04:57] morning K [04:57] morning Squirm [04:57] nice and early [04:58] ya [04:58] meh [04:58] always :/ [04:58] hes still yawning methinks [04:58] Kilos: you have no idea [04:58] lol [04:59] that's why I've started having a bath in the morning. wakes me up quickly [04:59] ah [05:02] wow [05:02] summer must be here [05:02] slept with my windows open and I'm fine [05:02] even though it's overcast now [05:06] still too cold here to do that [05:06] days are ok though [05:31] morning all [05:31] hi magespawn [05:31] how are things this morning Kilos? [05:31] good ty and you magespawn ? [05:32] peachy keen [05:32] going through them links again [05:32] dunno if i must put pc2s mac address in pc1 [05:34] put the mac address of the interface you will be configuring [05:34] not sure, are youstill trying to get the shared network going? [05:35] is he talking about pc2 as the interface im configuring [05:35] yes, its become almost an obsession now that it worked once [05:36] showed that it can work so now it must [05:36] the interface is the network card of the pc you are working on [05:36] aw [05:37] and what is the cloned mac address [05:38] mac addy showed on its own in nm [05:39] cloned mac address? I am not even sure what that is [05:39] is the cloned addy the other pcs? [05:39] hehe me neither [05:40] im not sure what most of this is [05:46] well lets see what we can find [05:47] im looking here now https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html [05:49] magespawn: sorry I disappeared last night. power died [05:50] no worries Squirm [05:57] Kilos looks like a cloned mac address is so that the internet service provider thinks that the same pc is connected [05:58] so then i must put the other ones addy in there? [05:58] for connections that can only take one pc [05:58] oh [05:59] like your modem [05:59] pc 2 would clone your pc1 mac address so that it can connect to the net using the modem [05:59] that has worked without the cloned addy entered so its not that [06:00] well then i am lost at this poitn [06:00] point [06:00] sorry [06:00] np [06:00] ill keep looking [06:14] hi Tonberry [06:14] see you all later [06:15] go well magespawn [06:15] gotta work :( [06:58] good mornings [06:58] morning inetpro [06:58] eh Kilos, how goes it? [06:59] good ty and you inetpro ? [06:59] learning networking [07:00] nice [07:00] 8ta loves me [07:00] and maaz hates me for all the google requests [07:01] * inetpro had a nice long weekend with family afk [07:02] thats good [07:02] i go sort sheep and hoenders [07:02] wbb [07:39] hi zeref_server morgs drussell [07:40] Kilos: hey! [07:40] morning [07:43] morning morgs [08:12] good morning [08:12] Maaz: coffee on [08:12] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:16] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [08:24] Maaz: thanks [08:25] charlvn: Sure [08:59] morning superfly Banlam bakuman [09:02] hi Kilos === confluency_ is now known as confluence === confluence is now known as confluency === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [09:24] hi Kilos [09:31] yo not_found-droid [09:32] hey Trixar_za [09:32] Hey uncle Kilos [09:32] nuvolari, lewe jy nog na die naweek? [09:34] Hey Kilos [09:54] hi [09:56] Lunch time is always too short [09:56] lol [09:56] to eat or what? [09:57] Or what [09:57] :p [09:58] lunch is still an hour away === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:29] sigh [11:38] afternoon Kilos [11:38] hey magespawn [11:38] all the fiddling killed my network manager again [11:38] and sound [11:39] still struggling with the shared internet connection? [11:39] time for anbother clean install [11:39] you going to be expert at complete installs [11:39] is there no another way? [11:39] yeah i follow what the links say then next thing ugly things happen here [11:39] lol [11:40] im trying to purge what i can remember installing [11:40] then will reboot and see [11:40] it spends 3 mins or so waiting for network connection before booting to gui [11:41] maybe each time do a step by step write up as you are doing the work [11:41] that sounds like it is trying to network boot [11:41] yeah i think i will do that [11:42] just dunno which setting or command actually kills nm [11:42] it is something i should do as well [11:42] luckily i install sakis 3g yesterday [11:42] a lot easier to reverse if you have the steps [11:43] yesh but you cant reboot after each step to check what is the culprit [11:43] its only after booting the probs show [11:43] could use a clone the drive to a spare so that you can clone back when the systems is too broken [11:44] lol the thing to do is to make a backup just before it breaks then its easy [11:45] maybe the clone carries the fault [11:46] yup thats the idea [11:46] backup before breaking [11:47] lol [11:47] weird even sound went this time [11:51] just gonna reboot and see if purging helped [12:30] Does anyone know where I can buy barebone Laptop for ubuntu install? [12:30] in SA? [13:10] Erich do you mean one without an OS or just a low spec machine? [13:41] he probably means without an OS [13:42] Erich: a few people have tried, we've discussed it on the mailing list at length... the short answer is: nowhere [13:43] also, you aren't paying that much of a premium for windows, so it doesn't really matter [13:44] yeah, when I bought my netbook I just never gave Windows a chance to load :-D [13:44] the cost of windows is probably easily offset by the income from bundling crapware [13:44] Overseas some of the manufacturers have removed win and given the buyer a rebate, true not much but there we go [13:45] the windows license used to allow you to get a "full refund" which could be interpreted as retail price [13:45] but that clause is long gone [14:59] hi,i really need someone to assist me with installing Django [15:00] clean installed [15:02] pardon [15:02] i believe Kilos was reffering to his own computer and not django [15:04] oh lol...well is there anybody that can assist? [15:06] Thaps: you're better off using something else, unless you have to use Django [15:06] something else like? [15:06] Pyramid [15:06] it's lighter, and it doesn't hate Python [15:07] or flask, which is tiny compared to Django [15:07] actually, flask is probably a good one to start with [15:07] http://flask.pocoo.org/ [15:09] http://www.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/about [15:10] hmmm, ok thanks alot, i didnt know about them, so you reckon i start off with them and see where they take me? [15:14] Thaps: yes. Flask is nice and small, and teaches you more about exactly how the web works. [15:16] ok, thank you very much Superfly....you really are superfly lol hope it wont be too complex to install [15:16] Thaps: no, it's fairly simple, but you also need to understand Python packaging [15:17] Python web frameworks are not like applications [15:23] ok thanks, im installing it right now [15:36] superfly what would you use Flask for? [15:36] magespawn: writing some sort of small web application [15:36] ahh okay [15:36] like a little online calendar, or a blog [15:37] do you use it? [15:37] though if it starts becoming quite big (a blog is a non-trivial amount of work) then I'd use Pyramid [15:37] nope, never actually ever used it === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:45] later all on my way home [15:54] haha ya i clean installed [15:55] this networking is wearing my cdrom out [16:46] hi inetpro_ plustwo [16:46] hey charlvn you been scarce hey [17:12] hey Kilos [17:21] hi Cantide conradvo not_found-droid highvoltage [17:22] so much work after a clean install without a backup [17:22] o/ [17:22] +1 [17:22] Busy myself with that [17:22] hi smile [17:23] lol what happened not_found-droid [17:23] hoi :p [17:23] hi Kilos [17:24] Installing lubuntu [17:24] ah just to try it out? [17:25] i am comfy with unity and even more so after i install mate [17:25] But with mate there is zero unity... [17:26] yes so lekker and so much faster [17:26] hehe [17:27] but you can still choose on booting [17:29] sjoe more rain and wind coming superfly [17:30] Maaz, coffee on [17:30] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [17:31] Kilos: we get it before you do... I know all about it :-P [17:31] lol thats what i mean big one coming to you not me [17:32] who has contact with maia? is she ok? [17:32] and drubin ? [17:33] hey Kilos, superfly, not_found-droid, highvoltage and magespawn 'o' [17:33] and smile '-' [17:34] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:34] 'o' [17:34] Maaz, dankie man [17:34] Groot plesier my vriend [17:35] Cantide: :DD [17:35] ^^; [17:35] how is everyone? [17:35] hi Cantide [17:35] trying to get over this throat infection/migraine combination [17:35] ok ty and you? [17:35] Cantide: I'm ill :( [17:36] weekend over so study lots [17:36] superfly :-S smile :-S [17:36] * Cantide quickly puts on a surgical mask [17:36] eish superfly that sucks [17:36] telling me [17:36] Cantide: Well I'm almost dead, actually :p [17:36] Kilos, i'm okay '-' and yeah... already done 13 pages today :) [17:36] just trying to get through dinner [17:36] good man [17:36] smile, so is everyone else :D [17:37] :o [17:38] ah smile they looking for a geek to manage the pcs just other side the perly gates [17:38] lol [17:38] but you gotta use ubuntu [17:39] :) [17:39] I'm actually busy reading a book / poem about Satan getting kicked out of heaven :p [17:39] :o [17:39] I guess he wasn't using Ubuntu :p [17:39] lol [17:39] 288 page epic poem is not fun though ._. [17:39] na its cause he is only a tiny snake [17:40] not a python [17:41] haha [17:41] i heard something on the news today about an 8-metre python in Kansas [17:41] must be scary .-. [17:41] read Paradise Lost though, it's a cool book, even for an atheist like me :p [17:42] yup Cantide reticulated python 8m 159kgs [17:42] oh oh oh, and some googling turned up a few results on how to get the TV card working :) [17:42] lol they had one on tv last night. some twit in za keeps them as pets and this one swallowed a warming blanket cord plug and all [17:43] magespawn, yeah :D sounded nasty - eats rabbits, hogs and deer :D [17:43] Kilos, hahaha! but poor snake :( [17:43] could kill but not eat the average human [17:43] they took him to the vet and operated and got it out [17:43] what is the poem? [17:44] Cantide^ [17:45] i generally like snakes [17:45] I have a pet snake [17:45] what kins? [17:45] magespawn, Paradise Lost - It's an epic - 288 pages :-S [17:46] kind? [17:46] milton [17:46] magespawn: a corn smake [17:46] magespawn, yeah '-' === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:47] superfly try something a litle closer to home next time [17:47] little [17:47] Cantide heavy reading [17:48] magespawn, indeed, but i'm putting off Chaucer [17:49] is this all for your studies? [17:50] yeah [17:50] i enjoy the books though, so it's not too bad [17:50] Shakespeare is a walk in the park now haha [17:50] and reading doesn't really feel like studying :) [17:51] have not read anything like that for awhile [17:51] i hadn't for about 10 years [17:52] turns out it's not difficult to get back into [17:52] certainly easier now than during school [17:52] concentration and understanding both develop with time [17:52] http://mashable.com/2012/09/25/ibm-mira-supercomputer/ [17:55] that things massive magespawn [17:55] that is a little light reading compared to the other stuff you read Cantide [17:56] they lucky they arent on mobile broadband [17:56] lol [17:56] haha [17:56] magespawn, reading it now, thanks :) [17:56] i would like to see what they come up with [18:00] http://laughingsquid.com/liquid-nitrogen-and-1500-ping-pong-balls/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+laughingsquid+%28Laughing+Squid%29 [18:11] you can leave ?utm_source out ;) [18:14] magespawn, that is awesome :D [18:32] pretty cool science is fun [18:32] copy and paste [18:32] night all of you. sleep tight [18:32] see you morrow [18:32] night Kilos [18:34] https://training.linuxfoundation.org/linux-tutorials [18:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw&feature=g-logo-xit [18:35] hhahahaa === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [18:39] hmm... [18:40] good evening everybody [18:40] hi inetpro '-' [18:51] hi Cantide, inetpro [18:51] hey Squirm ^^ [18:52] good night all [18:52] night magespawn [19:06] Maaz: tell Kilos Maiatoday is doing well just busy with work! I see her often [19:06] drubin: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [19:11] ohi drubin [19:11] we don't see you around these parts these days [19:52] * inetpro wonders whether maiatoday can tell us whether drubin is doing ok these days [19:58] hehe [19:59] well i can tell you drubin is doing quite fine [20:01] Kerbero: thanks [20:01] * inetpro feels better now [20:12] :) [20:12] superfly: Just busy [20:12] also Kerbero still needs to come fix my remote ssh thing [20:13] bring it to me [20:13] now [20:19] drubin: nice to hear from you again [20:20] oh and Kerbero please fix that remote ssh thing for him so we can see more of him in here [20:23] well it is all up to him [20:24] hmm [20:27] Kerbero: bit far [20:27] inetpro: :) [20:46] drubin: -_- [21:04] inetpro: en nou? [21:05] * inetpro falling asleep