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Smackbookit and win8 can both burn00:00
boldfilterIn fucking hell00:00
Smackbooki agree Dr_willis that mate could die, but not as long as ubuntu is pushing unity00:00
brightsparkaguitel_, it seems like the Mint team is currently splitting efforts between MATE and Cinnamon (which is newer and slicker) and they seem to be the primary backers of both, so if and when they go Cinnamon-only MATE may well die.00:00
bloodriverafaik firefox BETA syncs add ons...but does 12?00:00
awc737I didn't flood...00:00
zodiakawc737, I guess it was <cr> as punctuation00:00
brightsparkand the swearing's out of line, chaps.00:00
Smackbookawc737: your messages buffered and all spit out at once00:00
aguitel_Dr_willis, brightspark ok00:01
awc737Dr_willis: unityis intended for tablets...?00:01
Smackbookawc737: look at it, huge buttons etc00:01
boldfilterOops, I found it necessary to express how I felt00:01
Dr_willisawc737,  i belive Unity and Gnome-shell are both eventually going to be for desktops and tablets.00:01
awc737i didn't think ubu really worked on tablets correctly00:01
Dr_willisand TV sets..00:01
Smackbookeven though ubuntu doesnt even work on tablets yet does it?00:01
Dr_willisawc737,  its a work in progress..00:01
Dr_willissince i know of no 'ubuntu/unity/linux' tablets in the mainstream markets yet...00:02
boldfilterSure, lets make a tablet Ui for our os that's not even on a tablet yet00:02
awc737Dr_willis: but new features, tacked onto something that is fundamentally incorrect can not make us like it00:02
awc737they would have to fix it first00:02
Smackbookboldfilter: exactly00:02
Dr_willisawc737,  and with each release they make it better and better...00:02
Smackbookthis argument has already been beaten to death in a million places though00:02
awc737they need to fix the way it works before they make it better, if they expect us to actually use it00:02
boldfilterI blame the hipsters00:03
* jrib eyes non-support talk :x00:03
boldfilterDoes apple have a tablet os on their desktops. Fuck no, that's stupid you idiot00:03
Smackbookwhats happening is manufacturers are all jumping on this bandwagon that desktops/laptops are dinosaurs and will be obsolete and the world will go to tablets, and no one wants to be left behind, so they are all abandoning mouse computer interfaces for touch screen interfaces  and making people who have *computer* click their mouses on giant touch screen buttons, and depriving them of proper window management and multitasking00:04
jribboldfilter: please watch the language (and let's get back to ubuntu support)00:04
brightsparkI did say about the swearing, boldfilter.00:04
bazhangboldfilter, no cursing here00:04
Dr_willisactually OS-X is getting more and more tablet like from what ive read.. but i dont use any apple stuff. and its annoying the die-hard apple pc users..00:04
Dr_willisIt will be neat to see what happens  when Ubuntu-TV gets out also. (if it does)00:05
Smackbookbut the market will work this all out00:05
boldfilterWindows 8 is going to be like Vista00:05
bazhangSmackbook, get back on topic please00:05
bloodriverAnyway...gonna try FIREFOX beta and see if that syncs addons...do not see an option on 12 to do this...thanks00:06
boldfilterThat was inconvenient, Thanks!00:06
bazhangboldfilter, this is ubuntu support only. chit chat elsewhere00:07
artaodo the devs ever come here? how about Shuttleworth?00:07
Dr_willisbloodriver,  ther was some sync button/icon at the bottom of the default firefox start page on windows. that i had to  explore/find in the ubuntu firefox. due to the ubuntu firefox plugins. (or just disable that plugin)00:07
bazhangartao, no00:07
artaoI just want to tell them to screw off ... re: amazon ads in Ubuntu00:07
boldfilterCan someone show me how to uninstall Unity its a piece00:07
artaokay. fair nuf.00:07
ChaoticanarchyXhi all, can anyone help walk me through how to install a program00:07
artaothose gorram jerks!!!00:08
jribartao: great.  Thanks for your input.00:08
Dr_willisbloodriver,  then you use sync on both devices and  get some passcode to enter on the other devices.00:08
blackshirt!apt00:08
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)00:08
bloodriverokay i'll try that00:08
bazhangChaoticanarchyX, with the package manager00:08
zykotick9!notunity | boldfilter00:08
ubottuboldfilter: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:08
Dr_willisthose are not ads.  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/mark-shuttleworth-explains-ubuntus-new-amazon-adware-feature00:08
ChaoticanarchyXsynapse? i tried00:08
jhkieri have a query - being a noob to Ubuntu VM - what is the best way to code edit directly on the server? any advice?00:08
toshgshwhen i leave the mouse in a location for 1 second it automatically executes the left-mouse-click how can i remove this?00:08
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang i tried using it and it wouldnt00:09
ChaoticanarchyXtried software center too00:09
Dr_willistoshgsh,  theres a 'accessability' settings that may be responsible for that.  but im not sure where the settings are. try the 'dash' search feature perhaps and search for accessability (oor how its spelt)00:09
brightsparkboldfilter, do you have another desktop environment currently installed (so when you uninstall Unity, you're not stuck without graphics)?00:09
bazhangChaoticanarchyX, try the command line then00:09
ChaoticanarchyXhow do you install with terminal?00:09
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  sudo apt-get install Packagename00:10
bazhangsudo apt-get install packagename  ChaoticanarchyX00:10
brightsparkis aptitude not included with the new Ubuntu release?00:10
Dr_willisbrightspark,  its not reccomended to use aptitude any more00:10
Dr_willis!aptitude00:10
bazhangbrightspark, its been deprecated00:10
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.00:10
zykotick9!aptitude | brightspark00:10
ubottubrightspark: please see above00:10
BebopStevedamn that bot is smart00:11
ChaoticanarchyXthe folder containing the binaries is on my desktop will that make the difference when I type that line in?00:11
bazhangChaoticanarchyX, thats not how you use the package manager or apt-get, so no00:11
bazhangChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name00:11
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, if you already have the binaries you use dpkg instead (if it's not also depracated)00:11
zykotick9brightspark: dpkg isn't deprecated, it's used to install all DEB packages, once apt downloads them...00:12
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang ok let me try that00:12
toshgsh<Dr_willis> i've found it thanks00:12
bazhangChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name exactly00:13
toshgsh<Dr_willis> it was the universal access00:13
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Dr_willismakes me wonder whats so Universal about it. ;)00:13
Zachster1996hello00:13
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang its the program off the www.processing.org/00:13
brightsparkthanks zykotick9.  I'm still on 10.10 hiding from Unity so I just wanted to check before I gave bad advice.00:13
defaultrohey folks, glad I found a driver for my Canon printer :D it was a breeze installing. Love it!!!00:13
defaultroI'm using LibreWriter. Don't like the fonts. Will I be able to use all my ttf fonts that are on Windows?00:14
zykotick9brightspark: you shouldn't still be using 10.10.  see "/msg ubottu 10.10" for details.00:14
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang i downloaded the folder off of it00:14
Zachster1996to all of you who were helping me yesterday with my byobu problem, ty and i figured it out00:14
boldfilterGnome classic isnt so bad00:15
defaultroso is it possible to use .ttf fonts in Ubuntu?00:15
gordonjcpdefaultro: yes, of course00:15
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang: processing-2.0b300:15
defaultrogreat. Where can I find howtos?00:15
gordonjcpdefaultro: http://www.google.com00:16
defaultrolol00:16
defaultrothat was helpful :D00:16
defaultrofound one00:16
bazhanggordonjcp, dont do that here00:16
gordonjcpwell come *on*00:16
defaultrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts00:16
ChaoticanarchyXis the folder that extracts from the processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz00:16
gordonjcpdid you not think to try searching on your favourite search engine?00:16
brightsparkthanks zykotick9, I understand it's unsupported and I won't ask of anyone's time here to help me :). But I like my setup.00:16
bazhanggordonjcp, if you dont know, then dont answer. dont direct to google00:17
gordonjcpbazhang: I *do* know00:17
haylodefaultro: search like this: how do i install wifi on debian ?     note the space before the question mark and google respects "quoted phrases" as verbatim00:17
GanharbHello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?00:17
gordonjcpbazhang: the vast majority of "support" questions in here are answered in the first hit on google with fairly obvious search terms00:17
zykotick9brightspark: using 'non-updated' software is a bad idea...  not just for you, but for the entire internet-ecosystem...00:17
Dr_willisdefaultro,  ttf fonts have worked for years..00:17
hayloalso adding the keyword "linux" will help a lot00:18
defaultroI'm following the instructions I posted00:18
bazhanggordonjcp, just dont00:18
defaultrowhat is Nautilus though?00:18
gordonjcpDr_willis: I can't really remember a time when they didn't00:18
Dr_willis!fonts00:18
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/00:18
jhkierhow do i clean up this thread to remoev all the "join" etc etc... is very messy!00:18
Dr_willisgordonjcp,  i can rember when you had to compile your own font server to get support for 'legal' reasons00:18
gordonjcpDr_willis: they were a bit crappy looking in 199500:18
haylodefaultro: its a file manager- you know something that shows you folders etc00:18
gordonjcpDr_willis: yes00:18
bazhangjhkier, which client00:18
brightsparkzykotick9, I hadn't heard that.  Can you post a link to an essay on that?  I'd like to read more.00:18
defaultrogot it. thanks haylo00:18
jhkierbazhang: webclient00:18
GanharbHello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?00:19
defaultroalso, what window manager could I be using right now? The minimize, restore buttons are on the top left like Mac00:19
bazhangGanharb, #winehq00:19
Ganharbty00:19
ampddefaultro: get everything running ok yesterday?00:19
defaultroampd, yup00:19
defaultrolooks like my ap went bad00:19
defaultronot sure why00:19
bazhangjhkier, there should be button on the top left. if not, try asking in #freenode00:20
ampddefaultro: hmm, odd00:20
defaultroit is very odd00:20
defaultronow, i am connected to my Uverse wifi00:20
jhkierthanks :)00:20
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ampddefaultro: so maybe it wasn't ubuntu messing with the network?00:20
defaultroampd, what gui am I using right now? The window looks like a Mac00:20
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ampddefaultro: post screenshot to imgur00:21
Dr_willis!manual | defaultro00:21
ubottudefaultro: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/00:21
Jirayabonsoir00:21
defaultroampd, it only started when I installed ubuntu. I found another forum which has the same problem as mine. His, it also ruined their school network00:21
bloodrivergroovy!  i found the add on switch and now am very happy!  that's for the info bro :)  thanks all!  later.00:21
Dr_williscompare the manuals screenshots with yourrs :)00:21
jhkierback onto ubuntu - Wondering if anyone can recommend a Code Editor/process for my VM... what is the best way to go about this?00:21
defaultroDr_willis, will do00:21
ChaoticanarchyXbazhang: whats the command line in terminal to use the dpkg to install binaries?00:21
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  you install .deb packages. not 'binaries'    sudo dpkg -i foo.deb00:22
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  or use gdebi foo.deb  (if you install gdebi)00:22
ChaoticanarchyXsorry, still dipping my feet in the linux pool00:22
Dr_willis!info gdebu00:22
ubottuPackage gdebu does not exist in precise00:22
Dr_willis!info gdebi00:22
ubottugdebi (source: gdebi): simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5build1 (precise), package size 25 kB, installed size 195 kB00:22
ampddefaultro: you can also log off and see which session is selected in gdm00:22
Jirayabonsoir00:23
defaultrogot it00:23
Jirayabonsoir00:23
zykotick9!fr | Jiraya00:23
ubottuJiraya: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.00:23
defaultrobrb, I'll prepare my windows so I can copy all the .ttf files00:23
JirayaMerci00:23
Jirayaubottu00:23
boldfilterHow do you put unity on the right00:23
Dr_willisboldfilter,  the unity left side panel? You dont.  theres some unofficial (or used to be) hacks out for it.  but they had issues..00:24
boldfilterStupid00:24
drobatiI've just installed 12.04 on a new system. Windows 7 was already installed and now I don't have a grub showing up on boot. It goes STRAIGHT into Win7. I also have no internet on the machine because for whatever reason the wireless card is not working.00:24
jhkieranyone got insight into this one ? sorry for bombing into the conversation.00:24
ampdjhkier: what are you asking, what editor to use?00:25
brightsparkjhkier, are you asking about a generic text editor or an integrated development environment?00:25
ChaoticanarchyXdr willis i dont have a deb folder with those kinds of binaries. i got the folder off the http://www.processing.org/00:26
ChaoticanarchyXits for C programming00:26
jhkierampd: well yes I guess... but its a VM... so I'm more interested in the process. it seems a bit mental to VNC into ubuntu and then launch an editor... how does everyone else do this #Noob00:26
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,   a 'deb' file has .deb as the extension.. I have no idea what you mean by 'binaries'00:26
jhkierbrightspark: not really any need for a IDE..00:27
ampdjhkier: vim?00:27
ChaoticanarchyXthen im probably mis-wording it00:27
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  if its not a .deb then you dont use the package manager tools to install it.00:27
ChaoticanarchyXanywho they are the files that im supposed to install00:27
jhkiera half dcent php editor would surfice.00:27
ampdjhkier: if you want a gui, i've used bluefish before and it was ok00:28
gordonjcpjhkier: gedit?00:28
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  whats the exact file name you downloaded and are trying to work with?00:28
theplanetim running 11.04. can i upgrade to latest without wiping my current install?00:28
ampdjhkier: i'd try vim though00:28
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, give us a hint as to what you have.  File extension?00:28
gordonjcptheplanet: yes00:28
Dr_willistheplanet,  yes. but make backups. :)00:28
jhkierampd: Is Vim just a terminal editor?  - I'm presuming bluefish is something which I run from the ubuntu desktop?00:28
Jordan_U!upgrade | theplanet00:28
ubottutheplanet: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade00:28
gordonjcpjhkier: you already have gedit00:29
Dr_willisjhkier,  theres gvim :)00:29
gordonjcpjhkier: you do not need to install anything else00:29
theplanetDr_willis, why, is it prone to fail?00:29
ampdjhkier: yea, vim is terminal, bluefish is targeted towards web dev00:29
gordonjcptheplanet: no but you can't be too careful ;-)00:29
jhkierso the best way to do it is simply VNC and edit from there?00:29
gordonjcpjhkier: no00:29
brightsparkjhkier, vim is hard for a first-time user.  Nano runs on the command line and is a bit friendlier, but less powerful.00:29
drobativim is awesome but not like other editors00:29
gordonjcpjhkier: don't VNC to your server, that's silly00:29
theplanethow many documented cases of the upgrade failing do you know of?00:29
Dr_willistheplanet,  data worth keeping is worth backing up...00:29
gordonjcpjhkier: What exactly are you trying to do?00:30
zykotick9theplanet: WAY too many to count ;)00:30
drobatiI recommend nano for jhkier.00:30
jhkierbrightspark: i've used nano it works ok.. so i guess thats what i'm looking for.. something like that but allows me to move around a bit easier00:30
Dr_willistheplanet,  you would not belive the # of times ive seen peoplle in here say 'i was upgradeing, and had a power outage...' and so forth.00:30
ampdDr_willis: doesn't ubuntu recommend upgrading to 11.10 first?00:30
theplanetit's a laptop though00:30
jhkiergordonjcp: vnc = my thoughts exactly...00:30
theplanetgod damnit00:30
Dr_willisampd,  you must go from one release to the next, Untill you get to a LTS - THEN you can go LTS -> LTS00:30
gordonjcpjhkier: don't even edit on your server00:30
ampdjhkier: bluefish is full on gui development00:30
gordonjcpjhkier: just, *don't*00:30
theplanetim more willing to get a new laptop and go from there00:30
zykotick9theplanet: expect upgrades from release to release to fail - an you need to do it twice (once for 11.04 -> 11.10 then twice with 11.10 -> 12.04)00:30
ChaoticanarchyXDr_willis: its on the website i posted, its under the downloads for linux 32 bit version. when its downloaded the folder it extracts out is called processing-2.0b300:31
ampdDr_willis: ahh, ok00:31
gordonjcpjhkier: you've already got gedit, which has syntax highlighting for pretty much anything you're going to run across thanks to gtksourceview00:31
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Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  whats the EXACT file name of the file you downloaded?00:31
gordonjcpjhkier: now, set up some sort of source control like git00:31
gordonjcpjhkier: you *need* source control00:31
gordonjcpjhkier: it *will* save your backside, right when you need it to00:31
ChaoticanarchyXDr_willis processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz00:32
jhkierampd: so bluefish would have a full copy of the site on my desktop and push the files up everytime.00:32
Dr_willisChaoticanarchyX,  so thats an ARCHIVE like a .zip, you extract it then figure out what to do with its contents.00:32
jhkiergordonjcp: so gedit - where is it?00:32
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, file-roller processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz00:32
ampdjhkier: here's some movies on what it does: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/screenshots.html00:32
ChaoticanarchyXDr_willis: yes sir.00:32
gordonjcpjhkier: it's already installed, it's the standard editor00:32
gordonjcpwell, the standard GUI editor00:32
ChaoticanarchyXfile-roller a program?00:33
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, yep.00:33
gordonjcpjhkier: don't forget, you're running Linux on your desktop machine00:33
jhkiergordonjcp: this is where you're losing me... GUI editor without VNC... i don't undersatnd.00:33
ampdjhkier: it does have site upload/download i guess, havent used it though00:33
gordonjcpjhkier: where does VNC come into it?00:33
jhkierampd: yeah.. no linux on desktop.. that might be.00:34
ChaoticanarchyXwould i look under software center or synapse for that?00:34
jhkierit00:34
gordonjcpjhkier: what are you trying to do, exactly?00:34
ampdgordonjcp: i still can't figure it out myself00:34
jhkiergordonjcp: I was querying how i would get a GUI interface on my remote machine....00:34
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brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, it may be installed by default.00:34
gordonjcpjhkier: you don't00:34
gordonjcpjhkier: that's an astonishingly retarded idea00:35
ChaoticanarchyXIt is allready00:35
ChaoticanarchyXI allready extracted the files00:35
jhkiergordonjcp: I know... thats what i thought too.00:35
gordonjcpjhkier: never ever do that, unless you know exactly what you're doing00:35
ChaoticanarchyXits installing them i need to do00:35
ampdjhkier: why cant you edit files on your computer and push them to the remote machine fi thats where you want them00:35
gordonjcpjhkier: are you running Linux on your desktop?00:35
jhkiergordonjcp: no win7 on desktop.00:35
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, so we need the exact filenames of what was inside the archive.00:35
ampdgordonjcp: he wants to do php, it shouldn't even matter00:35
gordonjcpjhkier: oh, I've never used Windows00:36
gordonjcpjhkier: there's probably some way of editing files in Windows and uploading them to a server00:36
ChaoticanarchyXoh00:36
jhkierI run win7 desktop ubuntu 11 remote. want to edit some very basic php/css files on the machine...00:36
gordonjcpthat's a pretty clunky way of working00:36
ChaoticanarchyXok00:36
gordonjcpjhkier: well the *simplest* way but it has a bit of a learning curve would be to use something like putty to ssh into the machine, and use vim00:36
jhkierhahaha - i suppose.00:36
ampdjhkier: just edit them in windows and upload them to the server. Bluefish has a windows client if you need to do that00:37
drobatiAnyone mind helping me with my bootloader problem. I don't know why grub is missing.00:37
gordonjcpjhkier: I run Linux and Mac OSX on my laptop, Linux on my desktop and all my servers00:37
ampdjhkier: or learn vim, it's pretty useful00:37
gordonjcpjhkier: so I can have my laptop or desktop running an exact clone of the server00:37
drobatiVim is great.00:37
Jordan_Udrobati: Do you have more than one hard drive?00:37
gordonjcpjhkier: this means I do all my editing and testing locally, then use fabric to deploy to the server00:37
drobatiJordan_U: I do indeed.00:38
jhkierampd: i think you're right about editing them on my machine and pushing up to the server.... I think my initial question was trying to align this..00:38
gordonjcpjhkier: even if you're just doing web dev as a hobby it makes sense to do it the "proper" way00:38
drobatiI have one SSD (/dev/sda) and one HDD (/dev/sdb).00:38
Jordan_Udrobati: Grub's boot sector was probably installed to a different drive than the one your BIOS is booting from.00:38
jhkiergordonjcp: agreed - do you have a full copy of the entire website?00:38
ChaoticanarchyXbrightspark: the folders in side are: core, java, launch4j, lib, modes, tools, and then two text looking files named: processing and the revisions text00:38
gordonjcpjhkier: yes00:38
drobatiMy BIOS should be booting off the SSD. Which is my 'OS' drive.00:39
jhkierOK -00:39
gordonjcpjhkier: it's a little more complicated than that, because I have a server at home running kvm, which allows me to set up and destroy virtual machines really quickly00:39
drobatiAnd that is where I thought I installed grub, but how can I check.00:39
Jordan_U!bootinfo | drobati00:39
ubottudrobati: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).00:39
brightsparkChaoticanarchyX, the processing file has no extension- it's just "processing"?00:39
|Anthony|anyone here brave / competent enough to tackle a pulseaudio issue00:39
Jordan_Udrobati: Boot info script can tell you, or you can just try telling the BIOS to boot from each drive explicitly.00:40
jhkierOK...00:40
gordonjcpjhkier: so what I do is I use a VM for my "webdev" server, and another VM for my "fake production" server00:40
theplanetLTS stands for "Long Term Support," meaning the Desktop Edition is supported for three years, and the Server Edition is supported for five years <<< so iinstalling server edition and equipping it with a desktop environment is a good idea00:40
gordonjcpjhkier: the "fake production" server is actually a clone of the image off my *real* VM, hosted somewhere in London00:40
jhkiergordonjcp: so how do you edit on the webdev server?00:40
WeThePeoplehow do i check the internet speed?00:40
gordonjcpjhkier: I don't00:40
bazhangtheplanet, thats not right00:40
zykotick9theplanet: nope doesn't work that way.  the desktop-like package aren't supported for the extra time.00:41
jhkiergordonjcp: edit locally and push to webdev?00:41
zykotick9theplanet: fyi 12.04 is supported 5 years server AND desktop!00:41
gordonjcpjhkier: I edit locally, on my local machine with a test server running on that00:41
UbuN00bis there an ubuntu channel dedicated to install issues?00:41
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maicodcan I disable the docking of windows to the top bar and making them 'full screen' ?00:41
blackshirtwethepople,you can use speedtest.net00:41
bazhangtheplanet, the current lts is 5 years both versions00:41
gordonjcpjhkier: oh, sorry, that was what you meant00:41
theplanetoh good00:41
drobatiJordan_U: I have no internet access though. I'll rtfm on bootloader but is there any cavet like needing internet?00:41
gordonjcpjhkier: yes, my laptop runs apache etc so I just test on that00:41
theplanetthanks guys00:41
bazhangUbuN00b, just ask the channel, all on one line00:42
jhkiergordonjcp: does anyone edit directly onto a webdev server insetady? i really like the idea of not having anything on my machine incase i drop it in the pool etc.00:42
carter_can anyone help me with a file transfer00:42
gordonjcpjhkier: only if they are suicidal00:42
gordonjcpjhkier: or really, really keen to change jobs in a hurry00:42
jhkiergordonjcp: understood :-p00:42
gordonjcpjhkier: that's a great way of blowing the backside out of your production site00:43
Jordan_Udrobati: Well if you want to run boot info script you'll need to get the script to the machine somehow. It seems like it's probably worth explicitly booting from one drive, then the other (don't assume that you know for sure the current default, try both).00:43
turbodr00lso my wifi stops working after around 5 mins and i have to reconnect, wtf is going on00:43
gordonjcpjhkier: if you get in the habit of editing directly on the dev server then one day you'll make a mistake and edit on the live server00:43
jhkiergordonjcp: but couldn't you have just another remote machine for dev?00:43
gordonjcpjhkier: and that's the day you'll do something *stupid*00:43
jhkiergordonjcp: wouldn't be the first stupid mistake ive made00:43
UbuN00bOk, so I found Ubuntu Ultimate gamer and gparted.iso.  I booted gparted.iso, deleted all the partitions and created a new one.  I only want Ubuntu on this machine to force myself to learn it.00:43
UbuN00bduring the install process, it asks for language, then it makes sure i have enough space and connected to internet00:44
jhkiergordonjcp: so what editor do you use locall?00:44
gordonjcpjhkier: yeah, I've *never* accidentally blown away the production machine00:44
gordonjcpjhkier: gedit00:44
bazhangUbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer00:44
drobatiHow do I go about setting which drive to boot off? I know the system is installed to /dev/sda3; windows is on /dev/sda2.00:44
drobatiJordan_U: ^00:44
UbuN00bthen it asks where to install it, but there are no drives shown in the list to install from00:44
maicodwhen I move the top edge of a window to the topbar of ubuntu it docks. Is there a way to disable this ?00:44
gordonjcpright, nn all00:44
UbuN00bit doesn't even give me the option to erase entire disk and install00:45
jhkiergordonjcp: thanks mate00:45
bazhangUbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer00:45
ampdjhkier: check pm00:45
UbuN00bit's 12.04 but i guess for gaming00:45
gordonjcpjhkier: also if you are doing actual web app stuff, look into web frameworks like CakePHP, Django etc00:45
bazhangUbuN00b, its not supported here00:45
asus1025ci have an atom n2800 netbook (GMA 3600 graphics)  and I am running X at 1280x768 24 bit color on my 32inch LCD TV which is attached to my netbook via hdmi. Can anyone tell me how can i change the resolution to 16 bit?00:45
UbuN00bok, is 12.04 supported because i downloaded that one and same problem, as a matter of fact I have 10, 11, and 12 but all versions give me the same error during install00:46
bazhang!ultimate | UbuN00b00:46
ubottuUbuN00b: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition00:46
UbuN00bit doesn't show ANY partitions to install it to, even after I used gparted.iso to make the partition00:46
drobatiJordan_U: I've just used a flash drive to transfer it over so hopefully this works.00:48
rufsketch1Hey everyone00:48
UbuN00bany ideas why during the third step in the install it doesn't show ANY partitions available?00:48
rufsketch1how do I install the latest nvidia driver from repos?00:48
rufsketch1I need 304.4300:48
UbuN00beven after I created the partition using gparted00:48
rufsketch1internet says the reason I'm getting issues with wine is because installing using provided nvidia script doesn't play well with 32-bit compatibility libraries00:49
Jordan_Udrobati: That is going to depend on your particular BIOS. Do understand though that BIOSs don't have any concept of partitions, it's only the two drives which they see.00:49
drobatiYes I understand that.00:49
drobatiOh.00:50
drobatiI follow, I'll try and boot off the HDD.00:50
UbuN00bI can only use the Ubuntu 12.04 live cd provided i hit the button when the keyboard icon is present, press f6 and choose nomodeset, only then can i get to the live desktop00:50
rufsketch1also, the 295 version from repos seems not to work at all with my card00:51
UbuN00bi try to install from the install ubuntu icon.  It asks me to select language, checks to make sure i have 4.5GiB space, connected to internet, download updates during install, install 3rd party programs and then i click next00:51
drobatiWhen I installed the system I set /dev/sda3 to mount / and setup some linux-swap on the HDD along with 150 GB to /dev/sdb600:51
drobatiThis flash drive doesn't seem to work00:51
drobatilet me try booting off the HDD00:51
UbuN00bnext screen wants to know what partition to install to and there are no partitions to choose from00:52
drobatioh and i mounted /dev/sdb6 to /home/drobati00:52
drobatier /home *00:52
UbuN00bif i press 'install now' i get the error "no root file is specified. please correct this from the partitioning menu"00:52
UbuN00bor something very similar00:52
UbuN00bbut on the live cd when i run gparted it shows 1 partition that i created00:53
Jordan_UUbuN00b: Can you post a screenshot?00:53
UbuN00bhow do i do that???00:53
Jordan_U!screenshot | UbuN00b00:53
ubottuUbuN00b: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.00:53
|Anthony|UbuN00b, by chance is the hdd still mounted in the live disc? meaning you mounted it when fiddling with gparted, and it's still mounted00:53
MrGizmo757Hey is there a better alternative to DeVeDe  or Bonbono. they both give me the same issue.00:53
drobatiJordan_U: booting off HDD did not work either.00:54
drobatiIt booted to windows.00:54
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  and what issue is that?00:54
UbuN00bi have the pics on my facebook looking for help, let me grab them off of FB real quick00:54
stercorHow do I fix this? "./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `dlopen'"00:54
jribstercor: give context for what you are doing00:55
|Anthony|anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?00:55
stercorjrib: Compiling sqlcipher.00:55
Jordan_Udrobati: OK, so you've now tried explicity telling the BIOS to boot from the HD. Have you tried explicitly telling the BIOS to boot from SSD?00:55
MrGizmo757Dr-willis,  Videos that are more then the 1:30 mark give me errors. they wont fit on the disk.  compare that to the DVD maker in windows that automatically scales it down to fit. its annoying00:55
drobatiJordan_U: It does that by default.00:55
drobatiUndoubtedly.00:55
justushello, I got a very screwed up problem with adding an external monitor to my samsung nc1000:56
drobatiNever-the-less, I will still give it a shot. Since bootup times with SSD's are seconds long.00:56
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  theres a button in devede to 'ressize/scale' the video down to the needed size of disk. at a loss of quailty of course.00:56
Jordan_Udrobati: Please try it explicitly, if for nothing else than to make me happy :)00:56
justusthe external display will only accept a turned orientation, either clock or counterclockwise00:56
drobati!00:56
drobatiUEFI!!!!00:56
justusthe display menu does not offer me any other options, suggestions?00:56
drobatiNOT A BIOS00:56
drobatiDear lord.00:56
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  ive put several hours of video on a 4gb dvd with Devede. - but the quality was lacking. but it was cartoons for the kids. ;)00:57
drobatiThis menu clearly says at the top UEFI dualBIOS.00:57
drobatiSo which is it?00:57
MrGizmo757Dr_willis,   oh i haden't noticed that.  Where is that option located?   Dose Bombono have it to or just DeVeDe?00:57
Jordan_Udrobati: That means that your boot firmware can boot via either UEFI or BIOS.00:57
justusno one here with any knowledge that could help me with my display problem?00:58
drobatiHmm.00:58
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  big shiny button that says 'adjust disk ussage' ;)  see the screen shot here.. http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html00:58
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  its like the last button i click befor moving onto making the iso image.00:58
Jordan_Udrobati: I need to leave, but I will be back in 30-45 minutes.00:58
UbuN00bok, i have the .jpg pictures of the install steps plus the gparted.iso partition table, how do i show them in irc?  please forgive me for being new to all of this.00:58
drobatiI'll keep at it.00:58
drobatiThanks for the help.00:58
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  devede is also a python script so its fairly easy to tweak to change various settings and defaults you may want to change.00:58
Jordan_U!screenshot | UbuN00b00:59
drobatiJordan_U: Additionally, I explicitly tried the SSD and it went into windows still.00:59
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  i for example always want things to 'auto play first item, and loop back to the first item' so i edited the script.  and i altered the default titles also.00:59
UbuN00b!screenshot | UbuN00b00:59
ubottuUbuN00b, please see my private message00:59
tsimpson!paste | UbuN00b, the 2nd link00:59
ubottuUbuN00b, the 2nd link: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:59
MrGizmo757Dr_willis, i know that button. i didn't know that's what it did.   Thanx ill give it a try.  i am kind of a DeVeDe noob. :-)00:59
justusgreat, so no one?01:00
Jordan_Udrobati: Ubuntu's installer probably installed grub for BIOS rather than grub for UEFI, and your boot firmware is currently configured to boot via UEFI (though it could all be the other way around).01:00
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  it adjust the disk ussage to match the size of the disk you selected...01:00
UbuN00bthese aren't screenshots, just .jpg images01:00
Jordan_UUbuN00b: http://imagebin.org allows you to upload any type of image.01:01
drobatiJordan_U: I'll look into it further. I know that windows is using BIOS.01:01
Jordan_Udrobati: How do you know that?01:01
drobatiI ran some command in CMD, from a guide.01:01
drobatiI can't remember it anymore01:02
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MrGizmo757Dr_willis,   yeah. i Assume it dose what the windows dvd maker dose automatically.  its just an option i have to choose in DeVeDe i guess.01:02
jribstercor: then you should give specifics about how you are doing it ;)01:02
drobatiJordan_U: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/bootmode.html01:03
drobatibcdedit01:03
UbuN00bok, here is a link to the partition table http://imagebin.org/22969001:03
drobatiAccording to that it said BIOS based is .exe01:03
UbuN00bthis is the next step in install process http://imagebin.org/22969101:04
UbuN00bhere is the following step http://imagebin.org/22969201:04
MrGizmo757Dr_willis.  i also have issues with Title Menus in DeVeDe.  i have to set it to skip the title screen and play automatically.  if i dont the DVD just get stuck at the title screen when i put it in my TV. do you know how to fix that?01:04
UbuN00bhere is where my anger gets bad http://imagebin.org/22969301:05
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UbuN00bhttp://imagebin.org/229693 this is where i want to take the disc out and play frisbee with my terrier01:05
UbuN00beven after i created the partition, it recognizes there is at least 4.5GB of free space available, but when i go to install it, it says nothing is there.  it doesn't make sense!01:06
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  you select a title  and hit play with the dvd players remote?  ;)01:07
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  i tend to make them all auto play and loop forever - I mainly do cartoon dvds for the grandkids01:08
UbuN00bany ideas?01:08
MrGizmo757Dr_willis,  Yes.  it just freezes.  if i set i to play the first title by default its fine.01:08
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  test the iso file in vlc, or mplayer perhaps. See if it messes up there. Could be some odd quirk with the dvd player01:10
MrGizmo757Dr_willis,   Maybe. My DVD player is kind of a peice of junk.01:11
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  got a new blueray player for the wife.. it can play videos off the Shared network drives. ;) no need to make disks much these days01:12
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MrGizmo757Dr_willis, dose the loop option make it automatically play when you insert it like the play first title option?  or do you have to manually push play  and then it loops afterwards?01:12
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  I think you enable both.01:12
Dr_willisand it plays, then loops.. forever and ever and ever...01:13
MrGizmo757Dr_willis, it wont let me enable both. that's why i asked.01:13
Dr_willisbeats listening to the  Menu "music" on normal dvd disks over and over when the kids fall asleep at night.01:13
Dr_willisI belive i set the menu to auto play the first title. and set each title to play the next title. then the last title. i set to play the first.. I cant rember.. been ages.01:14
MrGizmo757Dr_willis, ok well ill just try it a Few diffrent ways i guess. i have a few extra dvd's i can afford to waste.   ill be back if i have problem. Thanx for the help.  :-)01:15
|Anthony|anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?01:17
perhapstired+Hey guys, anyone here installed the bitcoin client from withyin the Ubuntu Software Center?01:17
perhapstiredI have this virtualbox instance with ubuntu installed from ages ago and am wondering how to access the bitcoin client it claims to have had installed from the software center01:17
zodiakperhapstired, look in the menu or worst case, bring up a terminal and type bit<hit tab twice>01:18
perhapstiredBy menu, what part of the menu do you mean?01:18
zodiakdear gods.. how on earth am I supposed  to know THAT01:19
zodiaklook at the entries01:19
zodiakI installed a program, once, a long time ago, no name, where is it ?01:19
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zodiakit's ~probably~ in apps01:20
perhapstiredBy entries, do you mean the left sidebar that's scrollable01:20
perhapstiredok one sec ill look at apps01:20
zodiakand you want to run bitcoin you say ?01:21
perhapstiredyes01:22
perhapstiredcan't find it though01:22
perhapstiredIn what folder is apps supposed to be in?01:22
Dr_willisMrGizmo757,  test the ISO files in VLC or mplayer.. no need to burn them01:22
somsipperhapstired: if you are not sure if it is installed, try this in terminal "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit"01:22
perhapstiredsoftware center claims its installed but ill try that. Also home folder has a folder tittled bitcoin 0.6.2 linux, but both the qt and bitcoind don't do anything when clicked01:23
somsipperhapstired: try running it in a terminal to see if you get errors01:25
MrGizmo757Dr_willis,  i will start with that.  but the real positive no doubts it works test will be in my DVD player.    Right now the only thing keeping me in Windows is Video and DVD creation.   i have learned how to use KdenLive  so if i get my dvd creation down like i want. then i can officialy say good bye to windows. :-)01:26
ampdperhapstired: did youmake them executable?01:26
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skraitohi all01:27
Hatorihi skraito01:27
perhapstiredsorry I'm stuck on trying to get somsip's recommendation to work. How do I get the vertical line from "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit" inside the command line ubuntu?01:28
perhapstiredI can't seem to copy it from the browser to the command line...01:28
somsipperhapstired: depends on your keyboard. but try shift and the key below backspace01:28
skraitohanhua ahhh ure a tard01:28
perhapstiredampd, I'm not sure if I made it executable, how can I check that?01:28
bazhang!guidelines | skraito01:29
ubottuskraito: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines01:29
MrGizmo757Dr_willis,   80% of the software i use in windows started as GNU/Linux software anyways.  Gimp, Pidgin, ect.  and yeah. they all work better in their native Linux environment. so when i can get everything i do in windows to work for me in Linux then windows is gone. :-)  that's the plan anyways.01:29
skraitobah same same people destroying freenode again01:29
skraitowant me to get ban in here ?01:29
Pierrebis there a way to completely remove the sound drivers+configs and then reinstall them?01:29
perhapstiredSomsip, thanks but the key below backspace is enter, surely that can't be right no?01:30
perhapstiredI can't believe I'm stuck on the issue of having to apply spintax inside an Ubuntu virtualbox01:30
MrGizmo757Ubuntu is just far less annoying to use. so if i can get all my stuff working like i want then that's  it jack. i'm there. LOL!01:30
somsipperhapstired: as I say, it depends on your keyboard layout. Mine is clearly different from yours01:30
Pierrebsomehow i managed to ruin it so either i have to do that or reinstall but i prefer to not reinstall since ive configured the os a ton01:30
perhapstiredI'm so used to accessing a server and right clicking to copy and paste that this is such an unpleasant surprise01:30
perhapstiredIs there any other way I could go about this without inputting spintax into the CLI?01:31
zodiakserver.. copy and paste...01:31
somsipperhapstired: reinstall them01:31
zodiakoh mercy.. thank the gods I wore my corset, otherwise my sides would have split from laughter01:31
bazhang!behelpful | zodiak01:32
ubottuzodiak: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.01:32
perhapstiredstop splattering me with such ironies01:32
Pierrebanyone know if there is some software around that works like the windows remote desktop but for linux?01:32
somsipPierreb: what os do you want to connect from, and which os do you want to connect to?01:33
Pierrebi want to use the local login+pw and get full access+screen of the machine01:33
jrib!vnc | Pierreb01:33
ubottuPierreb: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:33
Pierrebsomsip: mac os x01:33
perhapstiredThanks somsip, but I was hoping to keep this install01:33
Pierrebto ubuntu01:33
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somsipperhapstired: no - just reinstall the bitcoin stuff01:33
somsipPierreb: is that from MacOS or to MacOS?01:33
Pierrebfrom mac os (there is a rdp client from office) to ubuntu01:34
Pierrebi prefer to use that one if its possible01:34
somsipPierreb: does this help? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/01:35
Pierrebsomsip: ill check that out01:35
somsipPierreb: clearly its a Win based tutorial, but the principle should be similar01:36
jribPierreb: also see ubottu's link01:36
somsipjrib: does VNC server suport RDP connections?01:37
Pierrebsomsip: it works thanks alot01:37
somsipPierreb: np01:37
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groksehi, i'm having a bit of an issue with byobu.  when i type "exit", it ends my session instead of just closing byobu and taking me back to the normal prompt.  any ideas?  i've had something similar before, but i killed "screen" and that fixed it.  when i do it here, it does the aforementioned closing of my session01:41
grokseah, if i sudo and THEN kill screen, it closes byobu without ending my session.  weird01:42
somsipgrokse: don't you have to detach rather than closing the session? Shift-F6 according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu01:42
groksethanks, i'll take a look01:42
groksei'm sure a killall command isn't the preferred method01:43
somsipgrokse: I'm more used to tmux here, but ^D kills the session, whereas ^B-D detaches, so I guess its a smiliar idea01:43
groksehmm, shift-f6 just didn't do anything01:44
groksethanks for the link though, i think it's helpful01:44
somsipgrokse: ok - I don't think I can help more01:44
groksethanks :)01:45
groksei probably borked the keybinds myself01:45
DLabzhi, guys01:58
WeThePeoplebi01:59
WeThePeoplehi01:59
DLabzLookig for a way to have my portable field boxes mantain persistant connections server in the office01:59
Skapareis there a way to avoid daemons auto-starting when doing an apt-get upgrade inside chroot?01:59
zodiakDLabz, you are going to have to give more than that02:00
zodiakwhat are you looking for solution wise ?02:00
DLabzzodiak: I have two requirements: 1. reconnect to wireless if connection drops02:01
somsipSkapare: one source, so you may want to find more evidence that this works - http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/02:01
DLabzif internet, reverse-ssh to home server02:01
zodiakDLabz, bleurgh .. openvpn instead of ssh :)02:02
zodiakDLabz, which will also take care of reconnection02:02
DLabzthanks zodia02:02
DLabzzodiak\02:02
DLabzdamn02:02
zodiakall good :)02:02
DLabzoh, can a openVPN server work on windows machine?02:03
zodiakyup02:03
DLabzperfect02:03
DLabzthanks a bunch02:03
zodiaknp02:03
RamtronHello!02:05
zodiakhey :)02:05
RamtronHow do we register nicks again?02:05
somsip!nickserv | Ramtron02:05
somsipah02:05
Ramtron!nickserv | Ramtron02:05
Ramtronknows nothing about nickserv it says ;o02:06
somsipRamtron: clearly. I forget the command. Oh well, worth a try02:06
xangua!register | Ramtron02:07
ubottuRamtron: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode02:07
somsipxangua: thanks02:07
Ramtron!register | Ramtron02:07
ubottuRamtron, please see my private message02:07
Skaparesomsip: is that "cat < /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" command really correct on that page you gave?  the file does not exist02:11
frybyehi - in an attempt to get a d-link usb wlan stick to work under 12.04 I accidentally deleted my blacklist.conf - what can I do to get one (-made automatically or whatever?)02:11
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frybye- and yeah - I had overlooked to make a backup first...02:11
somsipSkapare: that's why I suggested you second-source it. It's not on an official wiki or site I know, and only has one comment to say it works02:11
Skaparesomsip: seems to be incorrectly coded for the apparently purpose of creating that file02:12
zodiakfrybye, I suspect that there maybe one on the install/live cd/usb you used02:12
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Skaparesomsip: the cat is reading the file that does not exist02:13
somsipSkapare: just sudo vi then file then.02:13
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frybyezodiak - months of updates since then.. does that matter...?02:13
zodiakwell.. I don't know what else you also blacklisted :\02:13
Skaparesomsip: I don't understand what needs to be done02:13
frybyezodiak how do I get this blacklist.conf out of the cd???02:13
Skaparesomsip: is it supposed to create this file?02:13
somsipSkapare: create the file with the contents on the webpage using whatever method you know how to use. Or second-source a similar solution02:14
frybyezodiak: there was a whole load of stuff in the file...02:14
Skaparewhich contents?02:14
Skaparethe part starting from #!/bin/sh ?02:14
somsipSkapare: between cat and EOF02:14
SkapareOK, so it is normal for this file to not exist ... I create it ... run the apt-get stuff ... remove it when done02:15
Skapare+ the chmod02:15
somsipSkapare: it suggests that from the webpage, but I suggest you second-source conformation of this solution02:16
zodiakfrybye, boot off of the cd/usb into a live session, look in the /etc of the live system, if you find one, then mount your hard drive, cp it across02:16
Skaparewhat do you mean by "second-source conformation" ?02:16
frybyezodiak: ok thanks for the info - have a good one...02:17
somsipSkapare: find another site that confirms that this is a solid solution02:17
SkapareOH, OK ... I'll google for that filename, then02:17
somsipSkapare: best to be safe if it's not clear what the repercussions may be02:18
j-adminBoo.02:18
aniasisI am having a problem02:19
j-admin._.02:19
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plaxi5n355hey folks, im on opensuse 12.1...Any remote desktop client you would recommend that would be cross platform (I have another pc running ubuntu and one Centos).02:19
aniasiswhen I make a call to reboot I get the following output... Usage: /etc/init.d/reboot start|stop02:20
plaxi5n355want to control the ubuntu and centos from my opnsuse laptop02:20
tables_how do i remove ssh from startup?02:20
plaxi5n355tables_, I think its somewhere in your /etc/init.d configuration...google it up for exact conf file02:21
zodiakplaxi5n355, vnc02:21
Skaparesomsip ... looks like this is confirmation ... http://serverfault.com/questions/29544/how-do-i-stop-ubuntu-from-starting-daemons-ive-not-explicitly-asked-to-run02:21
plaxi5n355zodiak, thanks buddy...just realized im on ubuntu channel02:21
zodiakplaxi5n355, meh.. it's all the same when it comes to things like that ;)02:22
Skaparesome OTHER suggestions people make involve causing daemons to not run at next boot up ... but I think this might work ... I'll add it to my script and see02:22
tizzardhello, i have recently upgraded my computer to ubuntu 12.0402:23
tizzardhow do i go about changing the color theme of the system02:24
plaxi5n355zodiak, right...just couldn't find a lazy install on Yast :-)02:25
somsipSkapare: yep - a bit old, and it does explain the pitfalls02:26
zodiakplatschi, it's probably under one of the million of splinter packages. tightvnc, xtightvnc, realvnc, ultravnc, etc etc02:26
zodiakI think there was like 20 at least countl http://ipinfo.info/html/vnc_remote_control.php02:27
j-adminso what os do you guys prefer?02:28
somsip!poll | j-admin02:28
ubottuj-admin: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:28
Stanley00tizzard: please take a look at /usr/share/themes02:28
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tizzardahh thank you sir *salut*02:29
j-admini'm not asking for the best one, just which ones you guys prefer. i haven't used all of them so i'm curious about their differences02:30
DoctorTruthI have an I-phone and can no longer use the I-Tunes on my laptop cause I got rid of windows and am using Ubuntu just like on my desktop but I want to know if there is a program that will work in transfering music to the Iphone 4S. Anyone know02:31
gingoh help me quick02:32
ginghow do i stop apt unintalling everything?02:32
zodiakging ctrl-c02:32
gingjust removed python 2.7 by mistake02:32
gingwon't stop02:32
gingctrl c won't stop it02:32
zodiakctrl-z to background it and then kill %+02:32
zodiakif that doesn't work (which would be shocking) you will have to open another terminal and ps auxfw | grep -i apt and then kill -15 the process-id02:33
zodiakj-admin, any of them, all of them, whatever02:34
NautilusFirst time doing this.... after installing a clean 12.04 system (I had 10.04) I want to copy in my filezilla site listing.  I know theres a hidden folder in my home folder, but am unsure what to copy... just sitemanager.xml ?02:34
zodiakI am a pragmatist. I use whichever one gets the job done/work requires me to use02:34
MrKeuner #android02:34
gingthanks zodiak02:35
zodiakging np02:35
gingin the end i managed to get it will killall apt02:35
gingclearly didn't get it in time02:36
gingmy desktop has just come apart02:36
elkyging, which desktop were you using?02:38
j-adminouch02:38
gingi am hoping installing ubuntu-desktop will put everything back02:38
gingelky: unity02:38
elkyyes, that should02:38
gingi had not expected removing python to start eating my desktop02:39
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gingi was trying to run python 302:39
elkyIt happens when much of your desktop is written in python ;)02:39
elkyyou can have multiple versions of python installed.02:39
elkyyou don't need to remove one first02:39
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gingyeah i had 3 installed but i was trying to make idle run in python 3 and it wasn't so though i'll just uninstall the others02:40
Skaparesomsip: running the script with that "thing" in a fresh instance now ... should see in a few minutes02:40
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grantgalitzuh... Why are there 3 flood bots?02:42
eamonso that if one of them starts flooding the other can kick it out02:43
grantgalitzuh02:43
* grantgalitz grabs popcorn and waits for the race condition specified here.02:43
Skaparegrantgalitz: it's like a field goal in football ... it takes 302:44
SkapareUS footbal that is02:44
RelondoI installed Mint alongside Ubuntu and Windows 7, and the installation completed successfully, I can see the new partition and everything, but I can't boot to Mint from the GRUB. Help?02:45
IdleOne!mint02:46
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:46
RelondoIdleOne: This is not a Mint question; this is a general linux question. The problem, would, I'm sure, be the same with any other distro, an ubuntu derivative, or another version of Ubuntu entirely.02:46
IdleOneRelondo: This is clearly a mint question but lets assume you are right and it is a general linux question you can try ##linux. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Thank you.02:47
eamonRelondo ask in #grub02:47
Relondoeamon: Thank you.02:47
MadEchidnahi, can someone explain to me what the "legacy" AMD driver is and where I get it?02:48
MadEchidnabeen googling and googling and all I see is vague references to it02:49
jagginessMadEchidna, legacy means for old hardware that arent supported anymore by amd..02:49
MadEchidnawell I tried to install the latest catalyst and it seems that mine is now considered "old"02:49
MadEchidnaeven though it worked in the last one02:49
MadEchidnaos[Linux 3.5.0-15-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 740  @ 1.73GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 933MHz] mem[Physical: 5.8GB, 76.4% free] disk[Total: 189.4GB, 90.7% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]02:49
FloodBot1MadEchidna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:49
jagginessMadEchidna, then check amd's README02:49
MadEchidnathat was one line >_>02:49
MadEchidnaI did it doesn't make any mention of which cards are and are not supported02:50
jagginessMadEchidna, well it does..02:50
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MadEchidnawhere is the readme then? all I got was a PDF manual that did not02:50
const_antine_I've been told that du doesn't count hidden files/directories size toward their parent directory size, yet in practice it seems du still does it02:52
MadEchidnasee for yourself jagginess, there is no list of supported cards here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/embedded/Pages/embedded_linux.aspx02:52
jagginessconst_antine_, well read the manual.. because it always did and always will02:52
MadEchidnarelease notes links to the PDF I already read02:52
rypervenche-/away -all sleep02:52
rypervenchederp02:53
jagginessMadEchidna, embedded linux. You've got to be kidding me. Do you know what embedded linux is?02:53
const_antine_jagginess, i have, there isn't anything about hidden files in there02:53
MadEchidna>_>02:53
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const_antine_furthermore i tried du --exclude='^\..*' that should've excluded all hidden files or at least some of them. output was identical to command w/o that key02:55
|Anthony|anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me get it working in a multiseat setup?02:57
eamonwhat are seats?02:57
sunnycornerhi guys02:58
tables_how do i remoev a program from startup, using update-rc.d?   i need update-rc.d syntax02:58
eamonhi sunnycorner02:58
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sunnycornerhi eamon02:58
sunnycornerits my first time here02:58
Skaparesomsip: it worked !! ... I do suggest if people ask for this in the future, give them the serverfault link instead ... it doesn't have the command typos02:59
|Anthony|eamon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX02:59
sunnycorneri feel like eddie murphy wakes up in queens02:59
eamonwelcome to #ubuntu (and IRC?) sunnycorner02:59
somsipSkapare: I just googled it for you. I don't know this stuff02:59
eamon:)02:59
lcabrezai have problems on pidgin-sipe02:59
sunnycornergot a question abt setting up pptpd on ubuntu03:00
lcabrezahow do i make it permanent on export NSS_SSL_CBC_RANDOM_IV=003:00
const_antine_nvm, du pattern isn't a reg.exp.03:00
const_antine_d'oh03:00
sunnycornerwondering if anyone could shed some light03:00
somsiptables_: something like "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove"03:00
tables_thx03:00
zykotick9tables_: using update-rc.d doesn't make much sense on ubuntu...03:02
eamon|Anthony| so each user has their own mouse cursor. Can they use the same screen? If so can one user close another's window?03:02
sunnycorneranyone could maybe point some direction for me03:03
sunnycornermuch appreciated03:03
eamonsunnycorner state your problem and we'll be able to tell you if we can help or not03:03
vieweri got a usb wireless card to plug into my laptop since my  laptops wireless disconnects every 2 mintues, and it "erased" wlan0 before I even tried to install a driver or anything for the new one, and the make failed on the new wifi's drivers, is there any way to get my old card back?03:03
sunnycornercooool03:03
sunnycornerhi eamon03:03
sunnycornerso03:03
bazhang!enter | sunnycorner03:04
sunnycorneri have a ubuntu 10.04 setup as vm on a xserver box03:04
ubottusunnycorner: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:04
sunnycornersorry first time here, got it!03:04
j-admin._.03:06
sunnycornerso i have this ubuntu10.04 setup on xserve box as a vm, i installed pptpd followed all the online instructions, made sure i have tcp 1723 and gre open to the box, but when i tried using iphone to pptp to the box, the syslog always show i stuck at the step of "GRE: Bad checksum from pppd"03:06
sunnycorneri posted a new thread in ubuntuforum but havent had much luck getting any responses, i did checked almost everything, pptpd options setup, ip forwarding etc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206233303:08
Skaparesomsip: well you had the right thought to google ... I didn't when I did it (came up with unrelated stuff)03:08
Skaparesomsip: once I had the info you found, googling that got more03:09
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SystemCrashOverRHey, anyone up for helping a newbie sort out some basic troubleshooting?03:11
goddardthats what this chanel is for03:12
SystemCrashOverRPerfect03:13
WeThePeoplehi03:13
SystemCrashOverRSo I'm running the latest Ubuntu, 64 bit. And running into issues all over the place03:13
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somsipSkapare: yeah - all good03:14
SystemCrashOverRTrying to import music intro Rhythm box and then export to an Ipod, but whenever I drag and drop to the Ipod, nothing happens03:14
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SystemCrashOverRAny suggestions?03:16
roastedhello!03:17
SystemCrashOverRHey roasted03:17
SystemCrashOverRWhat's up?03:17
roastedIn order to effectively DD a drive, does said drive have to be mounted? I was hoping to DD this Mac OSX hard drive to salvage the install (HDD is going bad) but I got to wondering, if it has to be mounted and read by the OS.... maybe that won't help me....03:17
xanguaSystemCrashOverR: what ubuntu versión¿ what iOS version¿03:18
SystemCrashOverRLatest. it's 12.04 right?03:18
vieweri'm trying to compile my wireless driver from source I downloaded, but i'm getting errors during the make.  Is it common to have go download some super old kernel version in order for it to match some drivers a few years old?03:19
SystemCrashOverRAlso just wiped the iPod and reinstalled the IOS and iTunes, so they should both be the lastest as well03:19
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bradleyayershi03:21
xanguaSystemCrashOverR: well 12.04 doesn't support iOS6, it supports iO5 but not sure about 5.103:21
SystemCrashOverRAh, maybe that's why03:22
bradleyayerswhat's the best way to determine which package provides an executable03:22
bradleyayerssuch that i can install it03:22
SystemCrashOverRxangua: I tried installing gtkpod to help, but to no available03:23
xanguaSystemCrashOverR: more specific, the libimovile device shipped in ubuntu 12.04 only supports until iOS 5, gktpod, rhythmbox, banshee, all use libimovildevice03:24
WeThePeoplei got shoutcast on my rhythmbox :)03:24
scarrsbefore I do a complete re-install (I broke my ubuntu) has anyone had a successful vmware workstation 9 install run smoothly on ubuntu 12.04.1?03:26
|Anthony|WeThePeople, i use guayadeque. it does that too and i've found it to be a bit lighter on sys resources.03:26
|Anthony|i'll bbiab though03:26
|Anthony|that is in the repos too fyi03:27
eamonsunnycorner maybe you might have some luck asking in #xorg03:27
usr13viewer: What does lspci |grep ireless  #say?03:27
grantgಠ_ಠ03:27
WeThePeoplebbiab ??03:27
eamonbe baack in a breathtakingly_short_time03:28
eamonWeThePeople ^03:29
usr13viewer: lspci |grep ireless   #Tell us what it says.03:29
WeThePeoplethanks03:29
sunnycornerok thanks eamon03:29
eamonsunnycorner: Eric, type /j #xorg to join #xorg03:31
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aniasisI'm trying to initialize a set of environment variable on all users.  I added a bash script to /etc/profile.d/ but it isn't firing on all users03:36
WACOMaltHi there, what user should my folders be set to if they are for FTP access?03:37
WACOMaltcurrently they are www-data, but they cannot be written to via ftp03:37
tarcisiohello, can someone help me with an especific makefile I'm having trouble?03:40
minetrulyHi there! I'm new, so please let me know if I make any mistakes.03:42
mteleshaminetruly: we all make mistakes so yeah you did :)03:42
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minetrulymtelsha: thanks :)03:43
minetrulyI'm trying to create a bootable USB stick with 12.04. I successfully moved the USB option to the top in BIOS, but I get the error message "Invalid or damaged Bootable partition."03:43
WACOMaltCan anyone tell me how to list all users on my system in terminal?03:44
WACOMaltand all groups03:44
minetrulyI tried reformatting the USB drive to FAT and NTFS. I downloaded UNetBootin, which asked me to reformat to FAT32, which I did, but UNetBootin is failing to recognize the USB drive.03:44
jhkierhi guys - i'm hoping someone has a bit of apache undestanding and can give me a quick bit of advise...03:44
minetrulyIt suddenly strikes me I should try a different USB drive.03:44
WACOMaltdont use UNetBootin03:45
minetrulyWhat should I use?03:45
WACOMaltits broken from all of my tests anyways03:45
jhkierhello - hoping someing can help me understand the difference between "Document Root" and "directory"... if i leave one blank my site still resolves...03:45
seth69Hello, how can i upload files and create folder with a user in vsftpd?03:45
WACOMalttheres one from pendrivelinux that is good03:45
minetrulypendrivelinux ? I'll try that.03:45
jhkieryes pendrivelinux is great03:45
mteleshaminetruly: I would look at the drive in sudo fdisk -l and see what it says03:46
WACOMalttheres a fork of unetbootin that I like even better, but pendrive should be good. I cant think of the name of the other one right now03:46
minetrulymtelesha: I'm currently running Windows 7.03:46
minetrulyThis is my first time installing Linux.03:46
mteleshaminetruly: Oh then what are you trying to get as an end result with the pendrive?03:47
jhkierminetruly: install is easy.. using is a bit of learning curve..03:47
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jhkiermtelesha; i get it... its like a personal pc in your pocket.03:47
minetrulyI want to try Ubuntu before I reformat my entire hard drive.03:47
minetruly(I'm fed up with Windows and willing to learn all sorts of things to use Linux.)03:48
mteleshaOK I would then use the wubi install it keep everything in the widnows drive and then you can simply delete it03:49
minetrulyDo you still rec pendrivelinux?03:49
mteleshaminetruly: In windows defrag the drive then give wubi some space At least 30 gig and then try it out that way03:49
minetruly"wubi"?03:50
jhkierdo any of you guys have experience (basic) with apache... i'm just curious about the format of sites enabled files.03:50
mteleshano just download ubuntu .iso and then mount the iso in windows with whatever iso client you want03:50
minetrulyOK, downloading Wubi03:50
minetrulyI don't have to erase any of what's already on my PC's boot drive, do I?03:51
mteleshaminetruly: nope not at all. Or you could just get the .iso and virtualize it with openbox to give it a spin03:52
minetrulyI like the hard drive solution. Part of what I'm testing is its speed.03:52
jhkierminetruly: if you've never done linux before, easist I have found is http://www.linuxliveusb.com/03:52
mteleshaI personally tell anyone going Linux to dual boot. I have found windows to come in hand manytimes for different things.03:52
codepython777how do i run a find command to find all .txt files and then copy all of them into a /tmp/txt folder?03:52
minetrulyThank you jhkier03:52
jhkiervery simple windows program that creates it for you and ads a persistant03:53
jagginessuse vmware/virtualbox.. it's the best way to go.. all it needs is an .iso03:53
minetrulyOh yes, when I install it for good I'll keep the ability to dual boot.03:53
Nosophorusdoes this channel answer questions about MATE?03:53
minetrulyI just thought you had to reformat the hard drive to do that.03:53
mteleshacodepython777: find ~/ -name *.txt03:53
mteleshathen just pipe it into cp03:53
jagginessNosophorus, not sure, but i know there's a command called MAN! :)03:53
jnmHello, I think that ubuntu should have gparted preinstalled.03:54
minetrulyjhkier, what's up with these sites?03:54
codepython777mtelesha: i want the files to have the same name in /tmp/txt directory03:54
jagginessminetruly, if you want to jump on the wagon, BACKUP YOUR DATA. then try to use gparted live cd (not sure if the latest ubuntu installer can resize ntfs)03:54
jhkiermintetruly: you were trying to get linux on usb? this thing will basically created bootable for you one touch button.03:55
mteleshajagginess: ntfs is not a problem but wubi is great and I would just use that03:55
Smackbookcan someone explain to me the concept of "blacklisting drivers"03:56
jagginessmtelesha, wubi you say? pff.. that install a loopback file on top of ntfs. (see wikipedia)03:56
minetrulyOK, trying LiLi, and will also see how wubi works once my disk's done defragging03:56
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jhkieranyone konw much about apache?03:57
Guest19150hey guys. i was trying to enable sharing on a folder for the first time, so ubuntu was going through the motions installing samba. all of a sudden something mentioning "pam" wanted to be installed, and i accidentally clicked cancel03:57
Smackbooki just found a source code for a driver that will compile, but at the end of the instructions it says to "blacklist the old driver" what could happen if I skip this step?03:57
jagginessyeah.. wubi is great.. but only for checking out ubuntu imho.. I wouldnt use it as a permanent linux..03:57
Guest19150was this a bad idea? how on earth do i fix this? what package was it?03:57
mteleshajagginess: well personally I just use 2 drives but I have done several wubi installs and they work fine03:57
scarrsjhkier: what do you wanna know?03:58
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jagginessmtelesha, I don't know if multiple wubi's can be installed. but they're all "loopback" files on ntfs.03:58
Gnea!apache | jhkier03:58
ubottujhkier: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:58
mteleshaWill123: Just do the install pam03:58
mteleshaWill123: sudo -apt-get install pam03:58
jhkierscarrs: well im trying to understand what the sites enabled files mean..03:58
Will123mtelesha: thanks, i'll give that a go :)03:59
minetrulyOMG, LinuxLive is awesome. It automatically displayed all the ISO's on my computer!03:59
jhkierscarrs: ie what is the 'document root' and what is...directory...03:59
Will123mtelesha: pam's not a package, unfortunately03:59
Will123so that's a non starter03:59
jhkieri've left out directory before and still seems to work fine.. but all docs say repeat /var/www etc.03:59
mteleshaminetruly: Also backup should be a daily thing. But make sure you have it done04:00
scarrsjhkier: documentroot is the actual dir where the pages will be served...04:00
jhkieri started to guess that given it won't work without.04:00
jhkierWhat about directory?04:00
Will123mtelesha: new plan-  purge samba and start over04:00
scarrsnot sure about that one :)04:00
mteleshaWill123: you don't have to do that04:01
minetrulyShoot, I don't have regular backup set up.04:01
jhkiergnea: why !Apache04:01
minetrulyJust booting from USB can't be much of a risk?04:01
rgenito*sigh*, unfortunately... my connecting and disconnecting continues with this wireless driver on ubuntu 12 ;(04:01
Will123mtelesha: what would be a better solution?04:01
mteleshaWill123: but you can if you want I guess04:01
* rgenito should report a bug to ubuntu...04:01
Will123mtelesha: looks like it wanted to install libpam-smbpass04:01
Will123that was the special package04:02
jhkierscarrs: its odd... like everyone seems to follow the rule of repeating their document root in the directory section... but i don't really get it.04:02
scarrsjhkier: altho I have been using apache for 10+ years04:02
mteleshaWill123: you can always just do the apt-get install saba-client and it will reinstall04:02
scarrsjhkier: I would just leave it blank04:02
Will123mtelesha: i'll try that next time i accidentally click the wrong button :p04:03
Will123thanks :)04:03
Will123it wants me to restart my session - thanks again! bye04:03
mteleshaWill123: personally I would use the commandline and apt-get for installing things. Much better output of what's going on04:03
jhkierscarrs: well i have noticed that nothing seems to break  - no mater what you put in there. but its a small file, so ifugred everything in sites-enabled would be important04:04
mteleshaminetruly: well I use crashplan (It works for windows and linux for backupos)04:04
minetrulycrashplan, you say?04:04
scarrsjhkier: you're on the right track bro ;)04:05
scarrs(ain't apache fun)04:05
mteleshaminetruly: yeah its unlimited and cost $5 or free for a year if you switch from carbonite :)04:05
jhkieri kind of figured it would be much more sophisticated... or perhaps I'm just an idoit.04:05
mteleshaminetruly: I have a home server and I just put all my files on the server then they are also backed up to crashplan04:05
* jhkier certainly can't spell or type today04:06
scarrsjhkier:  nah, simple as pie :)04:06
minetrulyThat sounds like a good option. I guess while I'm fiddling with Linux, it's time also to set up a daily backup.04:06
scarrsjust leave your config files alone unless you're using a differnt dir to serve from04:06
scarrsjhkier: and then you only have to change "documentroot" and serverroot04:07
MACscrwhats the lightest weight desktop environment for ubuntu? I literally just need to be able to run a browser and terminal in it for monitoring a few things. Other than that, the system is a file server04:09
MACscrwell, file and media server04:09
scarrsMACscr: try fluxbox04:10
minetrulyCrashplan doesn't look free.04:10
codepython777is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)04:10
jhkierthat is kind of my intent... i was just curious given when i first created the file sites-enabled/mysite it changed the documentroot and was weirded out that directory was still pointing elsewhere.04:10
shantorncrashplan is free for local non cloud backup04:10
MsTeshiHi04:11
thomiDoes anyone know how I can tell apt-get to install the latest version of package X from the main archive if I have a newer version of the same package installed locally?04:11
minetrulyshantorn, thanks!04:12
shantorni use it every day, i back up from box a to box b's storage drive, been doing it for a bout a year04:13
shantornminetruly, you can op to pay for cloud storage but meh04:13
KTG5150Hey I just need a quick answer04:14
flyinprogramerok, trying to do a proof-of-concept dhcp/dns server project, where i have a box with two network interfaces, eth0 [internet facing] eth1 [private facing], i have it setup, and it works, providing04:15
s0neei'm trying to install the nvidia driver downloaded from the nvidia page, but it requires nouveau to be disabled. How do i do that?04:15
futIm using Ubuntu 8.04 due to hardware restrictions. Don't care to hear about how 2d is better and handles B.S., etc.. wondering why 8.04 can't handle torrent files?04:15
flyinprogramercable modem :: router :: server :: my machine04:15
flyinprogramerbut as soon as i get rid of the router, my machine doesn't get internet04:15
futAnyone know how I can add the capability into firefox (older version due to old OS)?04:15
flyinprogramerany idea why ?04:16
minetrulyOK, so the software won't stop working after 30 days, it'll just stop cloud access.04:16
KTG5150I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?04:16
flyinprogramerbecause the server still has the internets04:16
KTG5150I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?04:17
KTG5150I know to use a custom DNS server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address? Just "nameserver 8.8.8.8"?04:18
s0neeKTG5150: isn't it /etc/resolv.conf ?04:19
rgenitousually that's what i put04:19
rgenitoand s0nee is right on the file04:19
KTG5150s0nee: No the system overwrites it if it is placed there04:19
KTG5150Anyway04:19
KTG5150I just want to know what to put be4 the server address?04:20
mteleshaminetruly: No its $5 a month, but it saves you if you have a fire or theft04:20
s0neeKTG5150: nameserver <ip>04:20
KTG5150KK ty04:20
cowsquad? is there any way to edit the list of booting options on the start window in ubuntu?04:22
KTG5150 Im havin so much trouble trying to set up pptpd I might just go back to 11.0404:22
KTG5150:/04:22
cowsquadlike i have dev/sda6 twice in normal mode and recovery04:22
jagginesscowsquad, ?04:22
cowsquadjagginess like when you start ubuntu, it gives the list of OS that you have installed in your Pc. Is there any way to edit those04:23
segvAnyone have a macbook/macbook pro and a thunderbolt display working with 12.xx04:23
Jordan_Ucowsquad: Are you asking how to get rid of the recovery mode entry?04:23
s0neecowsquad: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg04:24
jagginesscowsquad, update-grub2<enter> updates the grub.cfg file--04:24
Jordan_Us0nee: cowsquad: Edits to /boot/grub/grub.cfg will be lost whenever there is a kernel upgrade.04:24
jagginesssegv, no that's a wip.. for the #kernel hackers..04:24
cowsquadthank you guys04:25
segvokay cool so its just display port for now?04:25
segvstupid thunderbolt displays04:25
segvbah04:25
jagginesssegv, i've read of limitted success. it's not prime time ready.. it's trial and error04:25
segvah, i've heard04:25
segvif its plugged in when you boot, it works04:25
segvif it's not, you're effed04:25
jagginesssegv, well ask on a mailinglist.. it's not primetime dude. (otherwise i would of say so! :)04:26
segvI figured it wasn't primetime, wasn't expecting that lol04:26
segvIf it works shittily i'll be happy04:26
akisany idea why at xubuntu 'elementary xfce dark' cannot give an icon to *.ods files?04:26
jagginessit's a kernel project.. so not a ubuntu one.. it has nothing to do with a linux distro04:27
s0neeJordan_U: TY for the info04:27
Jordan_Us0nee: You're welcome.04:27
cowsquadanother question. Is this chat only for question regarding ubuntu 12.04 or any version04:28
jordanmJordan_U: we need to stay in serperate channels :P04:28
Jordan_UJordan_U: But it's not confusing at all!04:29
jagginess^ i think he meant the little 'j'ordan lol04:29
s0neelol youre talking to yourself04:29
KTG5150Loooo04:29
KTG5150Loooool*04:29
KTG5150So anyway04:29
KTG5150Will some1 be willing to help me troubleshoot my pptpd issues tommorrow about this time?04:30
jagginesscowsquad, there's too many variants i guess why it's best to say only "ubuntu" (not xubuntu/kubuntu, etc..) but alot of people still use <12.04 ubuntu04:30
jordanmJordan_U: that was over everyone's head04:31
jagginesscowsquad, so if you use xubuntu, it would be best to ask on #xubuntu :/04:31
rabbi1ibus not showing input method languages newly installed .... how to solve this ? :(04:32
KTG5150Lol I got it, I just chose not to respond04:32
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linociscowho is using glpi on ubuntu server?04:33
MACscri just installed lxde. How can i have it automatically load it it without restarting the pc? I dont think synergy works at the login prompt, so i cant just login/logout unless i can somehow bypass the actual login screen =P04:36
MACscrsuggestions?04:36
teddotewho is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another04:37
|Nordom|I installed android SDK, its located in /usr/bin/android-sdk  <----- but when I try to access via terminal I cannot. CD /usr/bin doesnt work same with ~/android-sdk ... I am not sure what I am should be doing please help!04:41
jordanm|Nordom|: shell commands are case sensitive. /usr/bin is an odd place to put a directory04:42
|Nordom|thats where apt-get install sent it =/04:43
|Nordom|I found the files via file manager too so I know its there04:43
jordanm|Nordom|: how did you determine that?04:43
jordanm|Nordom|: dpkg -L <package you installed>04:43
teddotewut this haCker paradise in and out in and out no one talks04:45
teddotelol04:45
|Nordom|jordan: here is my output http://pastie.org/4795474http://pastie.org/479547404:45
|Nordom|http://pastie.org/4795474*04:45
|Nordom|gah without the *04:45
teddotewho is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another04:45
jordanm|Nordom|: Error 503 Service Unavailable - pick a different pastebin site04:46
aniasishas anyone installed oracle on Maverick04:48
jordanm11g?04:49
malkauns__in byobu how do i change the escape key from ctr+a to something else, the config doesn't seem to save my change04:49
john_doe_jrHow do I use the cut command to get a substring of a file name?04:50
minetrulyThank you everyone who helped me! I'm now running Ubuntu from a USB drive. (I'll try wubi after I've set up crashplan.) It's very fast. It scares me.04:50
rgenitominetruly, :)04:51
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: you don't use cut. show your example input and expected output04:51
aniasisjordan11g XE04:51
somsipminetruly: if you enjoy ubuntu, I'd suggest skipping wubi and going straight to a dual boot. Wubi is good for a try out, but may not add anything to your experience theat the USB already has04:51
aniasisjordan 11g XE04:51
blast_hardcheesejohn_doe_jr: What's the pattern of the filename?04:51
blast_hardcheesejohn_doe_jr: There's probably a better way to do that04:51
jordanmespecially if the shell is bash04:51
minetrulysomsip, thank you, noted.04:51
minetrulyDo you recommend a program for doing dual boot?04:52
jordanmgrub?04:52
Nordomjordan: sorry d/ced http://pastie.org/479549604:52
jordanmor you mean virtualization, like vbox?04:52
somsipminetruly: if you have a spare drive, just install and use it. If you need to re-partition, it can be a little more complex04:53
jordanmNordom: that link doesn't work for me04:53
jordanmNordom: it doesn't work for pagewash either: http://www.pagewash.com//nph-index.cgi/010110A/uggc:/=2fcnfgvr.bet/479549604:53
minetrulyIt's on a laptop... I will research before repartitioning, but if you have a recommendation, I'll consider it.04:53
john_doe_jrphase3-backup-20120921010002.dump….I need just the 'phase3-backup-20120921010002' out of it04:53
somsipminetruly: it's long time since I dual-booted. And a long long time snce it was on a  laptop. Best to get some more up to date advice04:54
mteleshaminetruly: minetruly If you are doing one drive use http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/ and make 3 partitions for Linux after you shrink your windows partition then linux partitions / root /home /boot04:54
s0nee/lib/modules/<kernel-ver>/build is missing. Which folder in /usr/src should I make a link to build ? linux-headers ? linux-source ?04:55
minetrulysomsip: OK. That's a few days in the future, anyway.  Thanks!04:55
somsipminetruly: np04:55
mteleshaminetruly: then you install ubuntu to the three or you can make just two partitions of windows and then have ubuntu use the rest of the drive nad it makes one partition I believe04:55
minetrulymtelesha, I was hoping to thank you for all your advice earlier! Thank you!04:55
mteleshaminetruly: no problem almost all of us started at where yoy are04:56
Nordomjordanm: http://pastebin.com/Mj58j4My04:56
john_doe_jrdoes anyone know have an answer?04:56
minetruly:)04:56
mteleshaminetruly: but I would go with wubi or partedmagic and make 2 partitons shrink your windows one and give yourself 30+ gigs for linux and then just have ubuntu install into that 2nd partition04:57
jordanmNordom: well... that's such a poor packaging job, its not even usable after installation. a) remove the package b) follow the upstream documentation using .tgz provided04:57
mteleshajohn_doe_jr: might want to ask #bash04:57
minetrulyThanks again for all the help. I need to get to sleep; I'll pursue these other great suggestions tomorrow. This has been a great introduction to this friendly, knowledgable community!04:57
john_doe_jrk04:57
s0neejohn_doe_jr: try 'basename'04:57
Nordomjordan04:57
Nordomhow do I do that04:58
mteleshaminetruly: well everyone isn't so friendly :)04:58
minetrulymtelesha: .....thank you for the warning.04:58
minetrulyI'll make sure to remember you fine folk!04:59
jordanmNordom: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html04:59
Jordan_Uminetruly: I think that the advice that you've been given on partitioning is entirely too complicated. I would just run Ubuntu's installer, which will walk you through partitioning (doing almost all of the work for you, and doing it right).04:59
jordanmNordom: any further support should go to a android specific channel, as it will be venturing off topic for #ubuntu04:59
MACscrso my pc seems to be starting light-dm and gnome dm on boot and im running lxde. I should need the other two should i?04:59
minetrulyI noticed Ubuntu had that.05:00
s0neejohn_doe_jr: 'basename aa.dump .dump' gives me aa. maybe thats what youre looking for ?05:00
mteleshaminetruly: just make sure you google and man your questions before you ask :)05:00
minetrulyBut also, I'll be wanting to install other OS's to boot from.05:00
minetrulyBelieve me, for teh boot problem, I did! :) But yes, I know how annoying it is to get questions that Google could have answered.05:01
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minetrulyThanks again! G'night!05:02
john_doe_jrs0nee: well basename phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump just gives me the file name back05:02
s0neejohn_doe_jr: you need to include ".dump" as the second argument05:03
john_doe_jrs0nee: awesome that worked!05:04
s0neejohn_doe_jr: also 'echo aa.dump | cut -d. -f1' gives me aa. -d. means . is the delimiter, and -f1 means first field05:07
jordanmbleh05:08
jordanmfoo="aa.dump"; echo "${foo%.*}"05:09
jordanmcut and a pipeline is not needed, and that will work in any POSIX shell05:09
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: ^05:09
codepython777 is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)05:10
jordanmalso, instead of basename: "${var##*/}"05:10
jordanmcodepython777: I recall ephiphany having some kind of local network p2p support05:11
john_doe_jrs0nee: jordanm ….I'm trying to do the following: http://pastie.org/4795558   look @ line 14…that is where it is messing up…any ideas how I can correct this?05:11
jordanmerr, not ephiphany.. the default chat client05:11
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: that link doesn't work for me, or the pagewash proxy, try a different site05:12
john_doe_jrhttp://pastebin.com/gULDfPz505:12
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: you don't need basename05:14
john_doe_jrjordanm: how do I do it then?05:14
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: "${FILE_LOCATION%*.gz}"05:15
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: you don't even need the function (which actually does nothing anyways)05:15
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: oh, wait, -d is the database name?05:17
john_doe_jrjordan: yes05:17
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: functions in bash can only return integers, so if you want them to provide data for use outside of the function, they need to modify a variable05:17
Jordan_Ujordanm: Or you can capture stdout.05:17
NordomI downloaded a .tgz how do I install it?05:18
jordanmthat's true05:18
jordanmNordom: follow the documentation, and ask #android05:18
Nordom#jordanm ... u know that ur lick says "You have succesfully install android-SDK" it doesnt give you any advice on HOW to fucking install it assumes u have05:19
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: getName() { fname="${FILE_LOCATION##*/}"; dbname="${fname%*.dump.gz}"; }; getName; psql -U postgres -d "$dbname" -f /Users/johnDoejr/Desktop/phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump05:19
IdleOne!language | Nordom05:19
ubottuNordom: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:19
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: also, () is only used on function definitions, not calling them. they are called just like any ordinary command05:20
Nordomwell I just get annoyed when someone says go RTFM but the manual is not existant =/05:20
jordanmNordom: IMO, the android documentation is quiet good in comparision to other programming documentation you will find out there05:21
rabbi1how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?05:21
jordanmNordom: if you installed it, setup eclipse and move on05:22
NordomJordanm: good that it works for you, but for it says I have already installed it and this gives zero documentations on HOW to do it, I find it a bit lacking05:22
IdleOneNordom: a .tgz of what?05:22
jordanmNordom: step 2: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/adding-packages.html05:22
john_doe_jrjordanm: totally cofused by your post ..trying to sort it out05:22
jordanmIdleOne: android sdk05:22
NordomIdleOne: Android-sdk .tgz, I tried installing via PPA, and it installed it to my /usr/bin folder and I couldnt really use it, Jordanm, advice I should remove the package and install that .tar.gz from androids website, I did do that, but do not know how to install it since it is a .tgz file05:24
jordanmjohn_doe_jr: http://pastebin.com/gNUNmyk205:24
Nordomjordanm, I cannot get to that stage because I cannot install it05:25
jordanmIdleOne: the "package" he installed just put a zip file in /usr/bin05:25
jordanmNordom: why not?05:25
Nordomor at least, asking what the commands are to install a .tgz I am assuming I need to extract it, but I am a nub to ubuntu so I am asking for help, and if u read up you would notice I asked that05:25
jordanmNordom: isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the tarball?05:25
somsipNordom: maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK05:26
jordanmNordom: use the "tar" command or file roller (or w/e is the default for gnome these days)05:26
Nordomthank you somsip it exactly what I wanted, and jordanm you solution is to go read the manual isnt what I was asking either05:28
somsipNordom: jordanm's answer was perfectly fine. I just googled it for you, that's all05:28
Nordomsomsip, u solved the soltion on a whole, my orginal question is how to I install a .tgz which I have googled and the answer that I found were not cleared or for other formats05:29
admasHello Expertees i am admas and i' from Ethiopia. and i want to be good programmer and network expert. thats why i choose ubuntu-linux. but i dont have any knowledge except some basic things ( i mean i have tried to study c++ before visual basic, html) but i didnt have resource like the internet and i am not sure i know anything. i jailbreak and unlock iphones that come from america and any other rich countries. i maintain computers ( like formatting and some05:30
K350What's the name of the tool used for customizing the plasma desktop - wallpaper and such? I've to open it from a terminal.05:30
admas basic hardware issues) but i am sure if i get enough support i will be good computer guy. So any one who is concerned please help me. right here or on my email ady.niceboy@gmail.com thank u everyone.05:30
jordanmNordom: to be clear, a .tgz is just like a zip file, you don't really "install" it, you just unpack it or in tar terms "untar"05:30
somsip!ask | admas05:30
ubottuadmas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:30
jordanmNordom: if its something that requires installation, you would use the files inside to perform the installation05:31
jordanmmost often via compilation05:31
admasthank u guys! what do i have to install to compile c++ on ubuntu? it was borland, turbo on windows.05:33
Jordan_UNordom: Asking generically "how do I install a tar.gz file" is somewhat like asking "how do I make brownies from a box of brownie mix". Tar.gz files are just containers, and their contents can be almost anything. If they contain software, about the only thing that you can be sure of is that they will have a file called "README" or "INSTALL" with further instructions.05:33
jordanmadmas: gcc/g++. install build-essentials05:33
AnonaHow long does a mysql install usually take?05:34
AnonaSetting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.63-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) ...05:34
Anonarunlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory05:34
Anonai've been stuck at this point for nearly an hour05:34
RawgerNicewake up big baby05:35
jordanmAnona: about 1min on modern hardware05:35
Nordomjordanm: I am sure you have tons of experience opening and installing in linux, as some one who has just recently started the process of getting from a to z insent always clear, I have extracted those files before but they did nothing. I was apprently suppose to extract them to where they are suppose to be. As a former windows user I rely on an install program to do that for me, so that thought05:35
Nordomprocess wasnt readily apparent.05:35
somsipNordom: jordanm I thought we'd got a solution with the weblink there. Is a discussion still needed?05:35
Anonajordanm: so, uhh, if you'll forgive my noobness, how should i proceed :S05:35
Nordomalso the readme doesnt contain installation process just says access it via this root05:36
frybyeHi - in 12.04 under additional drivers I am told that I have (after some trouble-) got the propr. rt2870STA driver installed and working but now with no network-manager (is uses some other system?) how do I access the settings to connect?05:36
Jordan_UNordom: In Ubuntu you almost never install things via tar.gz (or by going to any website at all), you search for them and install them via Ubuntu Software Center, (or via apt-get if you prefer the terminal instead of a GUI).05:37
popschhow can I use a hex password in nm-applet?05:37
jordanmsomsip: I provided some more information I felt may be useful. I see no discussion05:37
somsipjordanm: fair enough. Just trying to get back OT...05:37
Jordan_Upopsch: Is this for a WEP network?05:37
popschJordan_U, yes05:37
frybyebtw- have no access to the net from withing 12.04 and so am using win7 to connect here now...05:38
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Jordan_Upopsch: You should be able to just enter the password as hex and nm will be smart enough to treat it as such. If you have any control over this network I highly recommend that you switch to WPA though, it will be both easier (passphrase rather than hex) *and* much more secure.05:38
frybyewho is the duty ubuntu wifi guru online just now?05:38
Nordomjordanm: android-sdk is not on the software center, and I said earlier I tried to install via PPA and it installed it weird, thus I was forced to use a .tgz =/ But somsip guide to solve the problem05:39
jordanmNordom: some software on the PPA is packaged well, but some of it is very poor, so you have to be careful what you use from PPAs05:39
Jordan_UNordom: Just so you know, even though our nicks are similar, jordanm and I are two different people :)05:40
IdleOneNordom: I suspect #andriod would be of much greater help, not to mention the fact that it is technically not supported in this channel.05:40
IdleOne#android sorry05:40
jordanmI get highlighted when someone says Jordan_U anyways :/05:40
jordanmproblem for years now it seems like, in various freenode channels05:41
popschJordan_U, thanks, I'll try it and talk to them about WEP. I know the weaknesses of WEP, but they seem to want WEP over WPA so their old devices work better. *shrug*05:41
Jordan_Upopsch: You're welcome, and good luck.05:42
popschJordan_U, btw. I dislike the automatic thing, is there a way to let nm-applet know that it's a hex key? there's no common prefix like 0x... ?05:42
jordanmpopsch: WEP is always hex, so when you enter in WEP, its assumed05:43
popschok. will try05:43
popschthanks.05:43
fuzzman54Can anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?05:44
Anonaokay, i got the install to complete by ctrl-zing and starting the mysql service, but now05:45
LarsNany idea if/when we might see an ubuntu based settop box?05:45
admasnever used linux. right from windows. what do i have to do to compile c++ in ubuntu?05:45
AnonaERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server05:45
LarsNadmas: are you trying to compile the compiler, or just source code?05:46
jordanmAnona: you shouldn't use ctrl+z, that just suspends05:46
jordanmAnona: type "fg" and use ctrl+c05:46
admassource code05:46
LarsNadmas: if you need compiler tools you might want to add "build-essential"05:46
blackshirtadmas: linux has provided c/c++ compiler05:46
LarsNwhich includes a lot of libraries, and software development tools05:46
Anonajordanm: i had to suspend it because it was waiting for the mysql daemon to start05:47
admasalright let me try, will be back05:47
Anonaso when i did fg, it proceeded smoothly05:47
Jordan_Uadmas: If it's just a simple "hello world" type application, then you can just do "g++ hello.cpp".05:47
Jordan_Uadmas: Then run your program with "./a.out".05:47
fuzzman54https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/78137805:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 781378 in compiz (Ubuntu) "unmaximize windows on upper screen edge (Fitts's Law)" [Low,Invalid]05:47
fuzzman54It was filed as a bug, but then invalidated.05:49
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fuzzman54I really don't understand how IRC support rooms work. My idea was that it would be a faster way of getting support like I would from the forums.05:52
LarsNfuzzman54: as long as someone in the room knows how to help you solve your problem that may be exactly the case.05:52
LarsNfuzzman54: I don't have a system that can run Compiz handy or I'd go through your steps to reproduce.05:54
LarsNsorry :(05:54
fuzzman54So it's just that nobody knows how to help? It doesn't just take forever to get an answer?05:54
somsipfuzzman54: just depends on who is on here and how busy they are with other stuff05:54
LarsNfuzzman54: I haven't exactly seen a question, just a statement that your bug was marked invalid.  was there another question before that I missed?05:54
fuzzman54Okay. I thought maybe it was a wait-your-turn kind of thing.05:55
somsipfuzzman54: nope, and sometime you need !patience05:55
fuzzman54"Ca anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?"05:56
jordanmIRC user's can offer, but they generally can't fix bugs for you, unless its a simple configuration issue05:56
LarsNfuzzman54: I just maximized my terminal in Unity (default install of 12.10)  the top right corner is my power gear.05:57
fuzzman54The bug report isn't mine, I was just saying that I'm having the same issue as the person who filed it. I thought that since it was marked invalid, it wasn't actually a problem, but a misunderstanding on the person who filed the bug's part.05:57
LarsNfuzzman54: if I double click the right most open space on the title bar, it unmaximizes the window.05:57
MACscrif im running light-dm and lxde, can i remove gnome and unity?05:58
LarsNfuzzman54: you want it to actually close?05:58
fuzzman54Yes. I've switched the close,minimize, and resize buttons to be on the right.05:58
LarsNMACscr: is hard drive space at a premium?05:58
MACscrLarsN: not really, but its a server, so i just want to remove as much junk as possible05:59
KM0201MACscr: if it's a server, use ubuntu server, that will remove as much junk as possible05:59
LarsNMACscr: you might look at the ubuntu server install, and then just install light-dm and LXDE05:59
KM0201why do you even want a GUI on a server?06:00
LarsNMACscr: assuming you require the GUI at all, otherwise KM0201 is exactly right.  the Ubuntu-Server install doesn't include any of the userland gui software/tools06:00
MACscrwell i already have it installed, thus why im asking =P06:00
MACscrbut yes, i do require the gui as i do use the system to power my 4th monitor that i use to display some monitoring tools06:00
KM0201hmmm, seems a little odd to me, but.. ok06:00
LarsNMACscr: I've never tried this, so I can't promise it won't "Break Everything" (TM) but you could try to use apt to uninstall/remove ubuntu-desktop06:01
KM0201i've only used Ubuntu Server for a home based NAS (torrents, media server, etc..) so I guess i can't really relate to what you're trying to do.06:02
* LarsN has access to a "LOT" of Ubuntu servers.06:02
* KM0201 wishes they had based OMV on Ubuntu Server.06:02
* Calinou does not care.06:03
* KM0201 thinks Calinou would care if he had a NAS06:03
CalinoulolNAS06:03
Calinounoone uses that06:03
KM0201sure.. lots fo people do.06:04
LarsNMy NAS runs FreeNAS, but I'm a FreeBSD guy at heart.06:04
KM0201probably more people nowdays than ever (given the fact hard drives are such crap)06:04
KM0201LarsN: i liked FreeNas, until 8 came out, and it absolutely screwed me...06:04
IdleOnelet's get back on topic please06:04
Calinouhard drive == NAS06:04
Calinouthis doesn't solve the issue of throwing laptops around06:04
KM0201lol, hardly, but ok.06:04
IdleOne#ubuntu-offtopic has 5 free open slots for chatters06:04
KM0201lol06:05
* Calinou is banned, try harder06:05
MACscrKM0201: its just my home server and i have 3 monitors connected to my hackintosh and then i have a 4th connected to the server. This way i can have a few things viewable on the 4th monitor at all times without affecting my other work on my main pc06:05
IdleOneCalinou: Don't make me have to ban you here also then :/06:05
LarsNMACscr: if you've got a virtualbox installation laying around, it might be a fun test to install light-dm and lxde, then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop06:05
KM0201MACscr: i dunno, still doesn't make sense, why do you need a screen on a server at all?06:05
LarsNMACscr: I wouldn't try it on a host you were fond of first though.06:05
MACscrLarsN: why? its goign to tell me what its going to remove06:06
fuzzman54He uses it for keeping track of things visually with a monitor. He already said that.06:06
LarsNKM0201: I suspect it's part of a synergy pool, and "server" in kind of a loose sense of the term :)06:06
MACscranyway, i already ran it and it removed just that single thing which was 54kb =P06:06
LarsNMACscr: sigh.06:06
MACscrand yes. im using synergy06:07
LarsNMACscr: I know installing Ubuntu-desktop adds virtually everything needed to take a server-install to workstion land.06:07
LarsNguess it's just a big meta package.06:07
MACscrthat is correct06:07
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LarsNif you've got backups, I suspect you can bomb gnome and unity.06:08
KM0201LarsN: if you can figure out how to uninstall all that other crap.. this command should do exactly what you want... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188472006:08
somsipMACscr: I did this with desktop edition when I moved away from gnome, but ended up installing minimal install from scratch and just installing the WM I wanted. That pulled in all other dependencies. This may be an option for yu with the server edition?06:09
LarsNMACscr: ^ :)06:09
KM0201depending on if you know how to set it up again though, it might be easier to download ubuntu server, install it, then apt-get install lubuntu-core --no-install-recommends   and it will install almost nothing.06:09
MACscri have way to many server tweaks going on to do a reinstall. Guess i will just have to remove things one by one06:12
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eliteprodigyRight, I have a LAM stack running locally, with my prjects symlinked into /var/www but I keep getting  [Tue Sep 25 02:15:27 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0, when trying to access the files.06:18
eliteprodigyThey're PHP files, if it matters (I'm sure it does)06:18
eliteprodigyI was following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www but haven't gotten very far.06:18
Hayateeliteprodigy, how the ownership of that files/folders?06:19
rabbi1how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?06:19
eliteprodigyHayate: The actual files are owned by me, but have the group set to web-data as per the tutorial I was following.06:20
Hayateeliteprodigy, coomobly,dir/files under /var/www owned by www-data of apache server06:20
Hayatecommonly06:21
eliteprodigyHayate: Ummmm....I didn't quite get that?06:21
eliteprodigyHayate: I only want to be able to edit/modify/update /var/www without sudo, my research led me to believe symlinks were the best option, but they're not working, not sure where to go.06:22
Hayatepermission denied commonly caused by miss about ownership or permission bit06:22
eliteprodigyHayate: So how do I fix it?06:23
rpaliwalwhat is the channel for pulseaudio?06:23
Hayatethey dont change the /var/www maybe06:23
eliteprodigyI'm confused...06:24
Hayateeliteprodigy, you just need ensure,your apache have a access to them06:30
eliteprodigyHayate: Okay, well the group on the home directory and the documents folder and the project folders are all set to "web-data" but I'm still receiving the error.06:31
rabbi1installed new language, and now my folder names are all in that language. how can i get back to default language ?06:45
g00053okay ubuntu geniuses , i've finally gotten desktop sharing to work. my question is ...how do i go about doing it from outside my LAN now ?06:47
Kartagishow do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?06:49
Kartagisg00053: port forwarding on your modem/router06:49
Joebeezy10hi06:51
tom__sup06:55
Joebeezy10nm u06:56
foo357Hello, I'm using 10.04 LTS and I have an issue with a package that doesn't seem to be available in the repository.06:57
lotuspsychjefoo357:wich package06:58
WizardHi.06:58
foo357lotuspsychje: libtermcap-devel06:58
martini: )06:58
lotuspsychjefoo357:can you paste the error?06:58
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foo357lotuspsychje: no unfortunately I cannot, this particular computer doesn't have a internet conntection. So I manage software installation through a tool called keryx.06:59
lotuspsychje!info libncurses5-dev07:01
ubottulibncurses5-dev (source: ncurses): developer's libraries for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.9-4 (precise), package size 213 kB, installed size 1024 kB07:01
lotuspsychjefoo357:try that package07:01
coolencoka07:03
lotuspsychjecoolen:?07:03
coolennothing07:04
coolenjust fell14:57 -!- #ubuntu-ch 9 Ubuntu Switzerland, http://www.ubuntu-ch.org | Channel language: English, please! | For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者07:04
coolen--!07:05
Wizard:D07:05
coolen:)07:05
coolenit's quite07:06
coolen⊙﹏⊙b07:08
lotuspsychje!ot | coolen07:08
ubottucoolen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:08
coolenok07:08
simion314hi, none of mi microphone are working, i had them work before and after changing some settings in alsamizer now none of them work(rear or front ports)07:11
simion314i enabled them so they are not muted, I need some help please07:12
lotuspsychje!jack | simion31407:12
lotuspsychjehmm07:12
lotuspsychjesimion314:try to reset alsamixer maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106861207:13
vartotojasgood morning guys. im having a problem with java. atm i think i dont have one, cause online games isnt working for me, so im looking for help how to donwload and install java07:13
lotuspsychje!java | vartotojas07:14
ubottuvartotojas: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.07:14
simion314lotuspsychje: thx, i tryed reseting , that foruim is old, i used alsactl init      command07:15
woodputerrepairAnyone available to help with wireless USB network Device drivers?07:17
lotuspsychjewoodputerrepair:plz details mate07:18
foo357thanks for the help lotuspsychje07:19
lotuspsychjefoo357: did it work?07:19
foo357lotuspsychje: yes I believe so07:19
lotuspsychjefoo357: glad it helped mate i found it on a forum from LjL07:20
woodputerrepairI'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and using terminal, it found my usb device, but it won't let me use it. It just says "Disconnected", and won't let me connect.07:20
lotuspsychjewoodputerrepair:what brand is the usb device? did you install drivers?07:20
woodputerrepairLinksys RT8192 wireless usb device. And I haven't been able to find drivers for anything except windows.07:22
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: what the problems exactly is ?07:22
woodputerrepairdevice is disconnected and will not let me connect. It is grayed out.07:23
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woodputerrepairBeing a computer repair specialist. This is the first time I have had any problems with any versions of Linux. So I hope you can feel my frustration.07:27
lotuspsychjewoodputerrepair:did you add the usb device after installation?07:27
auronandacewoodputerrepair: whats the issue?07:27
ikoniabeing a computer repair person has nothing to do with linux why is that even relevant07:28
woodputerrepairyes I did. It works great in windows, just not in linux.07:29
lotuspsychjeauronandace:seems like my square mouse prob has fixed itself after an update, tnx again for the helps07:29
ikoniawoodputerrepair: some network cards have no / little / poor linux support that maybe something you need to accept07:29
auronandace!yay | lotuspsychje07:30
ubottulotuspsychje: Glad you made it! :-)07:30
lotuspsychjeauronandace:lol07:30
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: there are some driver for rtl818x series07:30
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: that is rtl8180  rtl818707:31
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: but maybe it was not yours07:31
auronandacelotuspsychje: was it a kernel update, driver update?07:31
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: maybe your card was in new release categories :D07:31
woodputerrepairmine is a rtl819207:31
lotuspsychjeauronandace:i really dont know what fixed it, did nothing special myself07:31
blackshirt!info rtl819207:32
ubottuPackage rtl8192 does not exist in precise07:32
blackshirt!info rtl8192 | woodputerrepair07:32
ubottuwoodputerrepair: please see above07:32
lotuspsychjeauronandace:i just pasted the bug few times in ubuntu-bugs07:32
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: what ubuntu release are you using now ?07:32
woodputerrepairnewest and the greatest.07:33
unimatrix9test07:33
lotuspsychje!test | unimatrix907:34
ubottuunimatrix9: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )07:34
auronandacewoodputerrepair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek07:34
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: maybe this is help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143340107:34
woodputerrepairam looking right now...Be right back.07:35
lotuspsychjewoodputerrepair:maybe this could help too: http://www.tuxamito.com/joomla/index.php/en/component/content/article/100-realtek-rt819207:36
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: these series maybe on stagging step07:38
amdHello07:40
woodputerrepairHey gang, I'm back to report that I got the driver from RealTek and it is working. The system is now updating and it looks like it may take a little while. I very much appreciate the help in getting this system online.07:40
blackshirtwoodputerrepair: greats :d07:40
blackshirtamd: hello07:40
BEJolleyhello07:40
amdI have a question about Linux Mint Maya can any body help me with that?07:41
lotuspsychje!mint | amd07:41
ubottuamd: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:41
BEJolleyHow Are You?07:41
lotuspsychje!ask | BEJolley07:41
ubottuBEJolley: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:41
amdThanks07:42
amdwrong #07:42
BEJolleyhow are you07:43
kernel2I want to change my screen resolution with xrandr . i have VGA-0 but xrandr --newmode goes to HDMI-0 !07:43
lotuspsychjeBEJolley:this is an ubuntu support channel mate, you have a question?07:43
kernel2how can i force xrandr to set my setting to VGA-007:43
blackshirtamd: no07:43
lotuspsychje!xrandr | kernel207:44
ubottukernel2: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1207:44
kernel2i have just one screen !07:45
MarcoFehi guys07:46
canadacowmorning07:47
MarcoFeA good prg to scan document on kde??07:47
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lotuspsychje!info skanlite | MarcoFe07:48
ubottuMarcoFe: skanlite (source: skanlite): image scanner for KDE 4 based on the KSane backend. In component main, is extra. Version 0.8-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 2582 kB, installed size 3156 kB07:48
MarcoFelotuspsychje: tnx :)07:49
lotuspsychjeMarcoFe:software centre might know some more07:49
MarcoFelotuspsychje: it's true :)07:50
lotuspsychjeMarcoFe: apt-cache search scan kde07:51
MarcoFelotuspsychje: ou yea07:52
lotuspsychje:p07:53
MarcoFelotuspsychje: skanlite it's good for my purposes07:53
MarcoFelotuspsychje: tnx so much07:53
lotuspsychjeMarcoFe:glad it helped mate07:53
ActionParsnipMarcoFe: gimp, simplescan, xsane07:53
MarcoFeActionParsnip: tnx but i'm using skanlite under lotuspsychje's suggestion07:54
Guido1hello, i want to instal a printer (brother DCP 110C resp 115C). I already downloaded and executed cupswrapperDCP110C-1.0.2-3.i386.deb and dcp110clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb . What have i to do know? The printer is a samba printer07:56
cfhowlettGuido1: pretty sure you need to Add A Network Printer07:56
ActionParsnipMarcoFe: searching software center will show you others too :)07:57
Guido1yes, but how do i add it?07:57
ActionParsnipGuido1: install them in the order they appear on the site, then mapt the printer07:57
Guido1ActionParsnip: "them"? it is one printer07:58
ActionParsnipGuido1: them, you have TWO files. yes?07:59
kernel2Hello07:59
ActionParsnipGuido1: then it's them, isn't it?07:59
poxhello07:59
Guido1ActionParsnip: yes, i have 2 files and instaled them07:59
kernel2How can use xrandr to force newmode on VGA-0 ?08:00
ActionParsnipGuido1: then use the printers option in the cog menu and add the printer there08:00
chrasohi all08:00
Guido1cog menu?08:00
chrasoneed help on this error while "apt-get update"08:00
chrasoReading package lists... Done08:00
chrasoW: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278308:00
Guido1ActionParsnip: i can't find the printer anywhere08:00
cfhowlettGuido1: search / add NETWORK printer if I'm not mistaken08:01
Guido1cfhowlett: i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found08:02
ActionParsnipGuido1: select to add a samba printer, then search08:02
ActionParsnipGuido1: or type the IP or name of the other system and probe it08:03
ActionParsnipGuido1: obviously set the firewall to allow the local traffic for printer sharing08:03
Guido1ActionParsnip:  i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found08:03
ActionParsnipGuido1: cool08:03
Guido1now i can click "next"08:03
Guido1ActionParsnip: but now i have the option "select from daterbase", "oppen ppd-file" and search for a programma08:04
Guido1ActionParsnip: so what is the next step?08:05
ActionParsnipGuido1: select from the installed drivers you have, then the driver should be available08:06
mehrdadhow to install rmagick (ruby gem)???????????????????????08:07
Guido1ActionParsnip: you meen from the database?08:07
ikoniayou can start by not doing ?????????????????????????08:07
ActionParsnipGuido1: yes08:08
desui was wondering if anyone could help me (im not sure if im in the right place) but i am having toubles booting up windows 7 from ubuntu08:08
Guido1ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed :-(08:08
mehrdadhellooooooo everyone08:09
ikoniamehrdad: please stop that08:09
mehrdadhow to install rmagick?08:09
mehrdadok08:09
ikoniamehrdad: please just talk with normal words08:09
mehrdadok sorry08:10
desucan anyone help me in figuring out how to boot window 7 from ubuntu?08:10
ikoniadesu: you are aware you set that up in grub ?08:10
desuno08:10
Guido1ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed08:10
mehrdaddesu: grub update08:10
ikoniadesu: Im assuming this is a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows installed ?08:10
desui would like to dool boot, but im not sure ill be able to figure that one out08:11
desudulal*08:11
desudual**08:11
ikoniadesu: have you got ubuntu and windows installed at the moment ?08:11
desuno only ubuntu08:11
desui have the windows 7 disc though08:11
ikoniadesu: ok - so here is how to do it easy08:11
ikoniadesu: 2.) install ubuntu08:11
ikoniadone08:11
ikoniadesu: 1.) install windows08:11
ikoniadesu: do it in that order and you'll have no issue08:12
desuit will not let me boot the windowd disc08:12
desuthat is what i am trying to figure out08:12
ikoniadesu: that's nothing to do with ubuntu08:12
ikoniadesu: that's your disc/hardware08:12
mehrdaddesu: simply08:12
anon131313desu: not hard to figure out. Look at your bios splash screen08:12
desuit a brand new disc though thats why im a little confused08:12
mehrdaddesu: update-grub08:12
ikoniamehrdad: please read what he said08:12
ikoniamehrdad: he doesn't have windows installed08:12
desuso what would be the simplest way in me getting my windows disc to boot up?08:13
anon131313desu when your computer boots it will give you options like press f10 etc08:13
ikoniadesu: this is nothing to do with ubuntu - take it to ##hardware or ##windows channel08:13
desuokay08:13
desuthank you08:13
ikoniawelcome08:14
lotuspsychjedesu:run ubuntu single on your hd, lose windows :p08:14
ikonialotuspsychje: that's not what he asked for08:14
ikonialotuspsychje: he asked for dual boot08:14
mehrdadikonia: can i help me08:14
ikoniamehrdad: no08:14
lotuspsychjeikonia: i know, we can suggest better ideas no?08:14
mehrdadok08:14
mehrdadu08:15
ikonialotuspsychje: it's not a better idea if he actually wants or needs windows,08:15
ikoniablindly ramming ubuntu down peoples throats and telling them to dump windows is unacceptable08:15
s3b`Hey I have a question.. just downloaded ubuntu and trying to get this damn icon working on the unity launcher08:15
anon131313ikonia why did you send desu away :(08:15
d8bhattaHello, I have installed windows xp with vmware in linux and  tried to run my php based web application through xp. But i am getting error like You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected.08:16
d8bhattai am neither seeing option to give write permission to the folders from xp. Help needed to solve the issue?08:16
ActionParsnips3b`: do you mean the top left icon in dash?08:17
ActionParsnipGuido1: should be have a hunt. It may be at the bottom08:17
ikoniaanon131313: because getting someones hardware to boot a windows CD is not an #ubuntu issue08:17
s3b`ActionParsnip I'm trying to create a shortcut on the launcher on the left, and all I'm getting is a springboard08:17
ikoniad8bhatta: what version of ubuntu are you running08:17
d8bhattaikonia: 12.0408:18
s3b`my download came with an icons folder that i cp'd into usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x4808:18
ikoniad8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?08:18
s3b`that's the last thing I've tried, and now it won't even show up >:[08:18
RajiHello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?08:18
s3b`http://i.imgur.com/RoP5N.png08:19
ActionParsnips3b`: is it a custom launcher you made?08:19
d8bhatta s3b`: yes, my php files are served from ubuntu08:19
anon131313ikonia now desu is probably going to mess up bootloader now though if listen to #windows isn't there ubuntu documentation on this issue that could have been pointed to08:19
Guido1ActionParsnip: already cheked that, but there it isn't08:19
s3b`ActionParsnip yeah I'm trying to get sublime text on the side08:19
ikoniaanon131313: nope, not for booting a windows CD on his hardware, we don't document users hardware08:19
d8bhattaactually I have to run same appliaction from both linux and windows to test the stuff with different browsers of IE,..08:19
ActionParsnips3b`: can you pastebin the desktop file you made08:19
s3b`btw awesome screenshot feature :P08:20
ikoniad8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?08:20
s3b`no problem08:20
RajiHello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?08:20
d8bhattaikonia:yes08:20
d8bhattasorry..ikonia, php is installed in xp08:20
ikoniad8bhatta: ok, so you've got a 12.04 host serving a PHP application....the windows XP client gets a permisson denied problem, correct08:20
ikonia?08:20
ikoniad8bhatta: ok - so Windows XP is serving PHP ?08:20
anon131313ikonia documentation for the dual boot with buntu installed first is what I meant. But I am sure you knew that08:20
umadRaji: Try Teamviewer08:21
ikoniaanon131313: there is documentation for dual boot - not on how to boot a windows CD on his computer08:21
d8bhattaikonia: yes, windows xp is servcing LAMP , only files are referenced to the location of ubuntu dir08:21
ikoniad8bhatta: ok, then ##windows is the correct channel to get help in08:21
s3b`ActionParsnip Oh it's not showing anything now for some reason once i put it in /share/applications08:21
ikoniad8bhatta: the issue is with windows XP serving PHP08:21
s3b`but double clicking it still works08:22
d8bhattaikonia: hmm...sounds good08:22
s3b`Oh wait08:22
ActionParsnips3b`: in /usr/share/applications I assume :)08:22
s3b`got it, and ActionParsnip yeah just getting lazy writing it out so many damn times :P08:22
akishi all. any idea how can i clear my dashboard 'files'. activity-log-manager cannot clear this section. any other advise?08:22
Rajiumad: I want to do without  the knowledge of client08:23
s3b`ActionParsnip http://hastebin.com/vililiveko.rb08:23
ikoniaRaji: so you want to spy....08:23
umadRaji: Maybe this article helps you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC08:24
x2q:h08:24
ActionParsnips3b`: is line 11 ok, with the space in the filename? Could copy the icon to /usr/share/icons then reference it there without the spaces08:24
ActionParsnips3b`: also switch line 7 to read as the same icon filename08:26
Rajiikonia: i am admin and i w ant clients are doingwith the system08:27
umadSSH would be the easy way08:28
ActionParsnipand secure08:28
ikoniaRaji: right, so you want to spy on your clients08:28
ikoniaumad: ssh is not going to allow him to monitor the desktop08:29
s3b`ActionParsnip that'll do :)08:29
s3b`damn thanks!08:29
ActionParsnips3b`: sweet08:29
Rajiikonia: yes08:29
s3b`ActionParsnip looking back at it, that dir didn't even exist. I don't know why it was pointing there08:29
Rajiikonia: so what can i do08:30
ShapeShifter499Hi08:30
ActionParsnips3b`: freaky, good the review stuff though :)08:30
ShapeShifter499I wonder... Can I run 32 bit ubuntu as the host and 64 bit ubuntu as a guest in something like virtual box?08:30
ShapeShifter499ikonia: If he wants to monitor why not use teamviewer?08:30
joshyutt08:30
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: i'm not sure, I'm sure the guys in #vbox will know08:31
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip: Yea ok I'll ask there08:31
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: i'd imagine not, any reason for 64bit guest?08:32
foo357Hello, I'm installing some software from source. It's a server software but I can't get it to start on startup. I have copied a script to /etc/init.d/ and made a symlink from rc5.d, what should I check to see what's wrong?08:33
seduce1hello. I cannot do "Partial Upgrade". It has happened before but it got fixed. Now it stays like that for more than two days08:37
seduce1can someone help me with that08:37
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip: Someone pointed me to a official vbox link explaining if my CPU supports hardware virtualization it should work http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests08:37
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip: It does btw08:37
ActionParsnipseduce1: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     use http://pastie.org08:37
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: nice :)08:37
seduce1how do I give the output just type the commands?08:38
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip: Just wanted a 64 bit test system for when I start the edx class on intro to programming and computers08:38
ActionParsnipseduce1: run the commands, copy the output and use the pastebin to give the output?08:38
seduce1okay, It just got update, which for now works, and says I have to restart. I will do the commands after the restart and will tell you08:39
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip: 32 bit ubuntu oddly supports my laptop better then 64 bit, some drivers like one for my dialup doesn't work on 64 bit lol08:40
ActionParsnipseduce1: can you pastebin the output please, not your interpretation. Thanks08:40
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: strange08:41
gordonjcpShapeShifter499: dialup?08:41
ShapeShifter499gordonjcp: Yes08:41
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gordonjcpShapeShifter499: that still exists?08:41
ShapeShifter499gordonjcp: I need the "martian modem" driver08:42
ShapeShifter499That hasn't been updated for 64 bit lol08:42
ShapeShifter499gordonjcp: Yea loads of free (provided you have a landline) dialup numbers in my area08:42
ShapeShifter499I wanted it to work mainly for faxing and only really need to dialup when my phone needs a software update08:44
ShapeShifter499Due to the fact it's my source of net08:45
ShapeShifter499Meh what ever works lol08:45
gordonjcpShapeShifter499: isn't it expensive?08:46
ShapeShifter499gordonjcp: it's free if you use google voice to route your fax out of your dialing code08:46
ShapeShifter499And free within dialing code08:47
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foo357Hello, I need some help with cron.08:48
ActionParsnipfoo357: do you have a desktop UI?08:48
foo357ActionParsnip: yes08:48
seduce1ActionParsnip here are the links:08:48
ActionParsnipfoo357: use gnome-schedule     or to cron as root run:  gksudo gnome-schedule08:48
thenewsguy!ol | ShapeShifter49908:48
seduce1for the UPDATEL: http://pastie.org/479632208:49
ShapeShifter499thenewsguy: Huh?08:49
seduce1for the UPGRADE: http://pastie.org/479632508:49
ActionParsnipfoo357: waaaay easier :)08:49
seduce1will you check them08:49
thenewsguyShapeShifter499: Sorry, I was just testing something08:49
MonkeyDustseduce1  notice 'maverick', down below08:50
ShapeShifter499Oh lol np08:50
ActionParsnipseduce1: quantal isn't supported here08:50
seduce1mm08:50
foo357ActionParsnip: I'm really just doing a simple thing. A guy has adviced me to add the line "@reboot /path/to/pg_ctl -D /path/to/PGDATA start" to crontab. But I have virtually zero experience of cron.08:50
seduce1so what do I do now08:50
ActionParsnipseduce1: this channel is for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+108:50
seduce1ok, I will go there08:50
ActionParsnipseduce1: the channel told yuo that when you joined08:50
foo357ActionParsnip: so is it the file /etc/crontab? And is it just as simple as adding this line at the end?08:51
tmbaohello everybody08:51
tmbaoi'm trouble with ibus08:51
tmbaoit doesn't show the icon on the panel08:51
ActionParsnipfoo357: oh then use crontab :)08:51
foo357ActionParsnip: It's part of installing some server software.08:51
ActionParsnipfoo357: does the command need root access?08:51
tmbaoi had checked "Show icon on  system tray"08:51
ActionParsnipfoo357: you can run:  sudo crontab -e     and add the line as you need08:51
foo357ActionParsnip: umm no I believe that the explicit purpose is to circumvent root acess08:52
tmbaobut it still not show08:52
ActionParsnipfoo357: then just run:  crontab -e    and you can add the line08:52
foo357ok thanks ActionParsnip08:52
ActionParsnipfoo357: commads in: crontab -e   will run as user08:53
T4sh1Hi08:54
Kingsyguys, I am trying to add a ppa and it says to use the deb command. however on my machine that says deb: command not found..    whats going on?08:56
Kingsydeb and deb-src  both don't exist on my system08:56
ikoniaKingsy: show me the instructions08:56
Kingsyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+index?field.series_filter=precise  <-- ikonia08:56
ActionParsnipKingsy: those are lines to add to /etc/apt/sources.list08:56
MonkeyDustKingsy  you need dpkg to install a deb08:56
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ikoniaKingsy: those are lines for the sources.list, not commands08:56
ActionParsnipKingsy: you add xorg edgers differently08:56
Kingsyohhh damn08:56
KingsyActionParsnip: you add that to sources.list?08:57
KingsyActionParsnip: basically I am trying to upgrade my radeon driver to its latest version :)08:57
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ActionParsnipKingsy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade08:57
ActionParsnipKingsy: that PPA is VERY experimental, expect issues08:58
T4shiHi08:58
KingsyActionParsnip: yeah its installed now.. its pretty easy to rollback tho right? if there is a problem?08:59
ikoniaKingsy: you use PPA's at your own risk09:00
foo357ActionParsnip: how should the crontab command look like, I tried with: "sudo -u <user> -e <the string> "09:00
ikoniaKingsy: is there a reason you are using this PPA09:00
Kingsyikonia: I know that yeah.. but you can roll back changes cant you?09:00
foo357ActionParsnip: crontab went missing there09:00
ikoniaKingsy: not always, it's a sloppy process09:00
Kingsyikonia: yeah I wanted to upgrade my radeon drivers along with other aspects09:00
ikoniaKingsy: why ? is something broken ?09:00
Kingsyikonia: no, it was to improve performance09:01
ikoniaKingsy: why do you think it will improve performance09:01
FloodBot1!netsplit09:01
ikoniaKingsy: is there anything to suggest it will beyond it being a "later version"09:01
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:01
Kingsyone of the guys in #radeon was saying09:01
Kingsyikonia: just from what I have been told.. brb gonna restart and hope it boots..09:02
ikoniaKingsy: sorry, that's not much09:02
ikoniaKingsy: I advise against doing this09:02
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XiaolinDraconisbefore i go playing with stuff i dont understand, is this script safe to use? http://pastebin.com/rYSfv2wd09:02
ikoniaKingsy: unless you have genuine evidence there will be a performance improvement beyond "someone told me"09:02
shkipperHi! First, sorry for my English but I'll try to explain. My problem is I can not save a web page in *.mhtml format (Ubuntu 11.10 & Opera 11.52) but in same time I can save the same web page using WinXP & Opera 12. If exactly - I need each time to correct the name of the web page ( to short it). How I can save the name of a web page in Ubuntu as same as in Win Xp? thnx in advance09:02
Kingsyikonia: just incase..  have always wondered this.. what does ubuntu have that is equiv to safe mode?09:03
ikoniaKingsy: there isn't anything09:03
ikoniaKingsy: once you install that PPA - it's done09:03
IdleOneKingsy: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge: sudo ppa-purge  ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa09:03
ikoniaKingsy: as in once you install a package from it09:03
IdleOneKingsy: after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:03
Kingsysay you screwed your drivers up.. and booting into normal ubuntu crashed.. how do you boot into a raw tty ?09:03
KingsyIdleOne: thanks :)09:04
IdleOne!nox09:04
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode09:04
ikoniaKingsy: you boot into single user mode or "recovery" mode, or from a livecd and mount your disk09:04
Kingsyikonia: ah so there isnt a recovery console on the system? you just use livecds?09:04
ikoniaKingsy: there is a recovery option in grub's boot menu09:04
fdgeXiaolinDraconis, that script is unnecessary09:04
Kingsyah thats what I meant09:04
ikoniaKingsy: but it's not a "save point" as windows recovery option is09:04
IdleOneKingsy: but like ikonia and ActionParsnip pointed out xorg-edgers is very experimental and could cause issues even after being removed.09:05
Kingsyoh no, I just meant a recovery option.. what is the shortcut key to get grubs menu up on boot? I forget..09:05
XiaolinDraconisfdge, how so?09:05
IdleOneKingsy: shift09:05
ikoniaKingsy: shift I think displays grub's menu09:05
Kingsyokie dokie thanks for the info guys, as usualy great stuff09:06
Kingsybrb.. hehe lets watch this bad boy crash :)09:06
XiaolinDraconisfdge, seems like it would help, my ram is over 300Mb used when i first boot its only >10009:06
ikoniaKingsy: hang on09:06
Kingsyikonia: yeah?09:06
ikoniaKingsy: just one thing to keep in mind09:06
IdleOneikonia: oh, yeah. right.09:06
ikoniaKingsy: genuinly, unless you are prepared to re-install this machine, I'd very strongly advise against using that PPA for no-reason other than "someone said it may improve performance"09:06
ikoniaKingsy: if you're happy with that, go for it09:07
Kingsyikonia: but the package is installed now.. isnt this the point of no return?09:07
fdgeXiaolinDraconis, you first need to understand how linux manages memory09:07
ikoniaKingsy: fair enough, you're done09:07
Kingsyheh09:08
Kingsyikonia: I assume once you have sudo apt-get upgrade.. you cant roll that back?09:08
ikonianope09:08
Kingsyok then.. so its done.. might aswell see how it goes.. :D09:08
ikonia(you can use the purge tools but that isn't a fool proof method)09:08
Kingsynp09:08
Kingsyits np.. I cant get angry it was my decision to test this out.09:08
Kingsysee you guys on the otherside :)09:09
ActionParsnipKingsy: you can roll back by restoring from backups (assuming you made some)09:09
XiaolinDraconisbackups? u must be joking09:09
XiaolinDraconisonly professionals do that09:09
zertuxhello09:10
IdleOnejokes are not helpful09:10
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, if you want it backed up09:10
fdgeXiaolinDraconis, unused memory is used as a cache for the harddrive. when that memory is needed for a program, it is reallocated for the program09:10
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, it is a great idea for systems you wish to preserve09:11
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, or kickstart09:11
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: I have an 80 year old grandad into photography, he backs up weekly09:12
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: not a professional09:12
XiaolinDraconiswoot-0854, i would love to have a backup, sadly i use up all my space with dual boots and games09:12
Kingsywell that worked.. no issues :)09:12
ikoniaKingsy: say that after 4 weeks09:12
ikoniaKingsy: then you can have more confidence09:12
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: when your drive IDE dies or motor fails, you will see09:12
Kingsyhehe.. not bad tho :)09:12
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, oh you can get a sata to usb adapter :)09:12
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, oh trust me i have seen, cant think of how many thousands of files i have lost, artwork games music, scripts, gone09:13
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: yet you didn't learn.....09:13
woot-0854!ubuntuone | XiaolinDraconis09:14
XiaolinDraconiswoot-0854, got one im ssurprised the hdd hasnt burnt out yet with no cooling09:14
ubottuXiaolinDraconis: Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone09:14
woot-08545g free :)09:14
zertuxI have a server running Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS with 2 x Hexa-Core Xeon E5649 2.53GHz w/HT and 32GB of ram09:14
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zertuxhttp://s11.postimage.org/qwtwgxckz/Screenshot_from_2012_09_25_12_06_28.png09:15
andornautI just did a backup with --delete, but i noticed that it was deleting the file from the src_dir instead of the dst dir... (sorta a big deal, so any help would be greatly appreciated). The script I used is: rsync --delete --progress --exclude ".*" --exclude "${src_dir}Trash*" --exclude "${src_dir}System Volume Information" -avhz $src_dir $dst_dir09:15
zertuxaround 800 Http connections09:15
zertuxmost of them are mysql queries09:15
MonkeyDustzertux  there's also #ubuntu-server09:15
andornautI guess, my first question, is why that deleted from $src_dir; second question is is there any way to get that back from the rsync backup? The $dst_dir has those files deleted as well.09:15
XiaolinDraconiswoot-0854, thats a good point, i should start partitioning better and at least backup the OS09:15
T4shiHi anyone could send me my whois result?09:15
woot-0854Can ubuntu snapshot an os ready for usb?09:16
zertuxMonkeyDust: oh, is it ok if i ask here or shouldi  go there ?09:16
fdgeyou don't need to back up the OS, just the files you created09:16
llutz_XiaolinDraconis: the OS is the last thing needing a backup09:16
winxpvboxXiolinDraconis: why backup the os? the data is the important part09:16
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MonkeyDustzertux  yes, guess you better ask there09:17
XiaolinDraconisThe data is important but its most often the OS that gets corrupted, and i dislike spending hours customizing it, praying i dont screw it up in the process09:18
JorisI'm trying to configure a test network but I can't get internet to work, dns works fine but everything outside of the network fails, anyone an idea what might be wrong? I have taken a screenshot of route/interfaces etc http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws09:18
llutz_XiaolinDraconis: backup /etc, /home and the list of installed packages09:18
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, ya im right there with you.  lock into kickstart and ghost like softwares09:19
woot-0854look*09:19
JorisI think that when the ping to google, routes the google-ip to the local ip?09:19
XiaolinDraconis5GB wouldnt be close to backing up the important stuff09:19
winxpvboxXiaolinDraconis: if you don't have backups then your data is expendable09:20
woot-0854XiaolinDraconis, sata to usb ftw09:20
MonkeyDustXiaolinDraconis  consider using an external usb disk or so09:21
tmbaohello09:21
woot-0854tmbao, hi09:21
tmbaocan anyone help me to fix my trouble09:21
XiaolinDraconisHave a 200GB disk but its holding games pictures and music09:21
tmbaoibus-daemon doesn't show the icon on the panel09:21
tmbaoit still works09:21
ActionParsniptmbao: whats the issue09:22
tmbaothe ibus-daemon09:23
tmbaodo you know it?09:23
tmbaoit doesn't show the icon on the panel09:23
tmbaoi'm using unity09:23
ActionParsniptmbao: not somehing I've had to deal with, sorry09:23
woot-0854tmbao, why not reset unity?09:23
tmbaoi tried09:23
tmbaobut it still hide09:24
tmbaoi checked show icon on ibus preference09:24
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woot-0854tmbao, did you mess with the resolution or display size?09:24
tmbaono09:25
woot-0854tmbao, did you manually delete?09:25
EaglemanCan i convert my pop3 mailbox from my ISP to an imap mailbox, but setting up a mail server and recieveing mail from an pop3 server and then recieve the e-mail using imap from the mail server?09:25
tmbaowhat you mean delete? i don't delete anythign :-?09:25
woot-0854lol.  sry then im outta ideas09:25
foo357Hello, how can I find the exact name of a package, if I "sorta" know what the name is, from command line?09:27
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llutz_foo357: apt-cache search parts-of-then-name09:27
JorisI'm trying to configure a test network but I can't get internet to work, dns works fine but everything outside of the network fails, anyone an idea what might be wrong? I have taken a screenshot of route/interfaces etc http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws09:27
foo357thank you llutz_09:28
Jorisor somebody has an idea where I can look to? search on?09:28
woot-0854foo357, or I think tab works if you now the first few letters09:28
olga__I am foggot command fo entering to russ chat09:28
llutz_!ru09:28
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:28
EaglemanJoris do a traceroute09:29
Eaglemancan you show me the output?09:29
Eaglemancould you also show me the output from dig google.com ?09:29
olga__<ubottu> thank you09:30
JorisEagleman: traceroute wasn't installed as default on the ubuntu server; we tried to run a debian desktop version on the same machine & then the traceroute returned lines like "1. * * *"09:31
Eaglemancan you ping on your default gateway to google?09:31
Eagleman10.67.57.2009:32
JorisEagleman: http://i.imgur.com/cvaiW.png this is the result of a ping to google09:34
EaglemanThat is on 10.67.57.20 ?09:34
JorisEagleman: 10.67.57.20 is what I think might be the default gateway, the ping to google is from 10.67.57.68 (the ip from the machine) a ping to the dns server did work09:36
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JorisEagleman: the network admin said to add routes like route add 10.67.112.0 MASK 255.255.240.0 10.67.57.20 /P09:36
JorisEagleman: and that's where I got the default gateway ip from, but I tried also the standard gateway ip that ubuntu recommended without any luck (10.67.48.1)09:37
EaglemanWhy work with static routes when you have a large network?09:37
JorisIt's just a test setup, I don't think there are that many servers09:37
EaglemanWhat is your role?09:38
Rajiikonia: Hai i have found themethod i just installed tight vnc on my windows 7 and now i can access the ubuntu desktop. Thank you all09:39
JorisI'm trying to get a django installation to run on it for somebody else:) the guy that manages the test setup is gone for this week09:39
EaglemanSo you dont know the default gateway?09:39
EaglemanIsnt dhcp enabled in your network?09:40
JorisNo dhcp, well I'm not sure about the default gateway, but the one for which I'm trying to get it running did install ubuntu desktop successfully with network, with the same information09:41
EaglemanWhat is 10.67.57.20 for machine?09:41
Jorisbut he couldn't help me with, he said he tried some things & it worked09:41
JorisI guess it's a gateway, eg. route add 10.67.112.0 MASK 255.255.240.0 10.67.57.20 /P09:42
Eaglemani guess09:42
Jorisif I understand the line correctly it'll route internal traffic to that gateway09:42
Jorisbut it doesn't ping09:42
EaglemanIt could be another server/computer09:42
varunhello, what does 10_linux do?09:43
Jorisbut isn't it strange that if I ping google.com, that it says that the "host ip" failed?09:43
Jorisit seems as if the routing, routes the google ip to the local ip?09:43
Jorishttp://i.imgur.com/cvaiW.png09:43
Eaglemanping to the default gateway?09:44
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llutz_varun: it searches for linux-installations on your harddisks09:45
llutz_varun: to generate entries in the grub-menu09:46
Jorispinging the gateway gives the same error as a ping to google09:46
EaglemanWhat exactly do you do in your company?09:46
EaglemanWhat for work?09:46
EiegeChanServ: hello09:47
timfrostJoris: what routes does your machine have? (!pastebin the text output)09:47
Eaglemantimfrost http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws09:47
varunllutz:  i dont have a 10_linux in my system..i have 50_linux09:47
Eaglemansame as the default gateway09:47
Eaglemanwhich is not reachable09:47
TankCHey all, I'm running 10.04 and I need to upgrade one of my packages to a newer revision that I can't find a compiled backport for.  What's the preferred way to compile the source of a newer revision of this package myself?  (libfuse, libfuse-dev)09:48
EaglemanJoris can you ping 10.67.57.68 and 127.0.0.109:48
MonkeyDustTankC  guess the preferred way is to upgrade to 12.0409:48
llutz_varun: did you rename it to get windows entries first in the menu?09:49
Joristimfrost: I took a screenshot of the routes http://i.imgur.com/RTHDz.png wasn't able to copy from the console09:49
llutz_varun: those will be generated by 30_os-prober09:49
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Eaglemanallways start at the botem when troubleshooting09:50
Eaglemanis the NIC working and the cable attached to it?09:50
varunllutz: i installed ubuntu through wubi09:50
JorisEagleman: a ping to 127.0.0.1 doesn't work, 10.67.57.68 does09:50
Eaglemangoto another machine and try to ping 10.67.57.6809:51
llutz_varun: i don't know if wubi makes a difference for grub-files. but why are you asking about 10_linux?09:51
Joristhe basics should be ok, I'm connect to the machine through vSphere09:51
JorisI don't have access to any other machines (or the physical room09:51
EaglemanCould have been usefull if you mentioned the machine is a guest OS09:51
cfhowlettvarun: wubi is a TESTING environment, not a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth wubi developers.  Consider full installation, dual booting or even virtualization options.09:52
Eaglemanwho asigned the ip address?09:52
karthick87How to fix this apt-get update issue? Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226278/ hope someone can help me out to fix this issue..09:53
senadhi09:53
senadexit09:54
senadQ09:54
varunllutz: i am installing xen and ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008795 say to execute this command sudo mv /etc/grub.d/10_linux /etc/grub.d/50_linux09:54
llutz_varun: well if you already have 50_linux and no 10_linux, youcan skip that09:55
llutz_varun: they just reorder the menuentries09:55
varunllutz: but then xm dmesg in terminal says ERROR:  Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs!09:56
JorisEagleman: I've no idea, I think the same guy that sended the configuration, I think that maybe the only thing left is to wait until he is back or hope he reads his emails:)09:56
Jorisbut thanks for helping^09:56
llutz_varun: its not related to that error09:56
EaglemanOk good luck09:56
JorisI think I'll just wait until he's back:)09:57
varunllutz: what is it related to?09:57
llutz_varun: idk, i don't use xen. but those grub-files aren't the reason for that error, for sure09:57
iNTElhey09:58
iNTElanyone can help me here ?09:58
iNTEljust little help !09:58
llutz_!anyone | iNTEl09:58
ubottuiNTEl: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.09:58
ActionParsnipiNTEl: just ask....09:59
iNTElremember me Actionparsnip :D09:59
iNTElanyway i upgraded and customized my ubuntu09:59
iNTElso i wanna make an image 2 it09:59
Eaglemanclonezilla09:59
iNTElk10:00
iNTElEagleman : ty 4 the high response10:00
Eaglemanfor a 1:1 copy10:00
iNTElEagleman : its k10:00
iNTElEagleman : is it in the ubuntu software center ?10:01
ActionParsnipiNTEl: In future just ask rather than "iNTEl> just little help !", its redundant.10:01
timfrostkarthick87: you may need to add  '/ubuntu' to the 'http://ftp.availo.se' entries (use 'deb http://ftp.availo.se/ubuntu ' on the entries for that mirror)10:01
fragmachinehas anyone managed to jailbreak an ipod touch on ubuntu?10:05
denis__linked sound big-linux i am not sechiant, your versat10:05
fragmachineI tried greanpoison but it freezes every time10:05
cfhowlettfragmachine: wrong channel.10:05
fragmachinewhat is the right one?10:05
cfhowlettfragmachine: can't say but I'd search jailbreak, ipod, apple, etc10:06
Jamey_Cool10:07
fragmachineok, I have been but haven't had any luck. Anyway, is it impossible to put music onto the ipod without jailbreaking?10:07
Jamey_i m french10:07
fragmachinecause I just want to put some music on there10:07
MonkeyDust!ipod > fragmachine10:07
ubottufragmachine, please see my private message10:07
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denis__ok  tenk you10:08
Jamey_je ne comprends pas10:08
Jamey_un tradjucteur ?10:08
Jamey_yo denis10:08
MonkeyDust!fr10:09
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.10:09
Jamey_;;-)10:09
cfhowlett!fr|Jamey_:10:09
ubottuJamey_:: please see above10:09
Jamey_see above ?10:09
Jamey_cze koi ??10:09
Jamey_ubottu,  bien10:10
Jamey_ubottu aime les les gargoiins he is like the boys10:11
p3c0Im creating my own ubuntu minimal system using ubuntu-core-11.10-core-i386.tar.gz10:11
MonkeyDustJamey_  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat10:11
p3c0i have installed grub2 for it10:11
Jamey_MonkeyDust,  quoi donc ?10:12
p3c0but everytime i boot i need to set the boot parameters10:12
MonkeyDustJamey_  "veuillez  taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci."10:12
p3c0on booting the system falls to grub console10:12
denis__music on ,sound on power on sery link corretely?10:12
Priceyp3c0: Have you edited /etc/default/grub and run update-grub?10:13
Priceyp3c0: Don't update /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly.10:13
p3c0Pricey, yes i have updated10:13
linociscois there any friend who experience transfering MySQL database of glpi (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=glpi&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.glpi-project.org%2Fspip.php%3Flang%3Den&ei=zINhUMS5AcjHsgaeoIHYCg&usg=AFQjCNHt9dYDHIeYlQw69NCgpG7V1FvZEw)to Ubuntu server and make it work on ubuntu server LAMP?10:13
linocisconow i am using glpi with XAMPP10:14
p3c0ran grub-update and grub-mkconfig also10:14
Jamey_MonkeyDust,  i like for them10:14
p3c0*update-grub10:14
Jamey_non ?10:14
linociscoExperience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated10:14
Jamey_linocisco,  hihi j ai ri10:15
linociscoJamey_, what do u mean?10:15
leblebi_shi all!10:15
Jamey_linocisco,  tu confonds10:15
llutz_!ops | Jamey_ trolling10:15
ubottuJamey_ trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!10:15
Jamey_je ne trole pas j essaie d em integrer10:16
Jamey_serieux10:16
bkerensaJamey_: Lets stop please?10:16
linociscoJamey_, Merci10:16
elkyJamey_, i can't understand french, could you please speak in english?10:16
bkerensa!guidelines > Jamey_10:16
ubottuJamey_, please see my private message10:16
Jamey_i want becausze..10:16
Jamey_i don't une umbrella10:17
MonkeyDusti understand french, he says he seriously tries to integrate10:17
nikoJamey_: merci de garder ce canal pour du support.10:17
Jamey_MonkeyDust,  j ai un niveau risible10:17
average_1rifterhello ! is there a libiconv-dev ? I'm looking for it for the past hour in my repo10:17
Jamey_in english10:17
bkerensaJamey_: Pour de l'aide en français s'il vous plaît join # ubuntu-fr10:17
nikoJamey_: please move to #ubuntu-fr10:17
average_1rifterthat's the iconv library for converting through various formats like UTF-8 and taht kind of stuff10:18
Jamey_average jue reve de te compre,ndre10:18
Jamey_serieux10:18
Jamey_average_1rifter,  y a des vins en angleterre10:19
Jamey_le reve10:19
Jamey_mon bergerac10:19
Jamey_lolo10:19
MonkeyDustJamey_  stop10:19
average_1rifterJamey_: dude wtf ?10:19
Jamey_1000 fois meilleur que ta piquzette10:19
Jamey_anglaaise10:20
average_1rifterJamey_: F you, GTFO10:20
winxpvboxJamey_: /join #ubuntu-fr10:20
llutz_elky: bkerensa please ... :)10:20
catphish_average_1rifter: language.10:20
Jamey_average s essie a la vvinfication10:20
average_1riftercatphish_: sorry10:20
Jamey_lool10:20
Jamey_average s essie a la vvinfication10:20
Jamey_loool10:20
FloodBot1Jamey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:20
Jamey_l anglais10:20
Jamey_le nain10:20
average_1rifterJamey_: are you a bot ?10:21
catphish_thanks FloodBot1 :)10:21
linociscoExperience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated10:22
linociscoExperience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated . Let me know how to do this10:23
llutz_linocisco: cant you just mysqldump the database10:23
average_1rifterllutz_: probably, but the experience is what interests him10:23
average_1rifterthat seems pasted off of a job ad10:23
average_1rifterlol10:23
karthick87How can i remove from Dash Home/Folders: 'Pictures','Music','Videos' and 'Downloads" which i have already removed from my /home?10:24
average_1rifterkarthick87: Warning: USE WITH EXTREME CAUTION =>    rm -rf ~/Pictures10:25
linociscollutz_, I am not that smart10:25
llutz_karthick87: edit/remove them from  ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs10:25
average_1rifteroh you already removed them10:25
average_1rifterscratch what I just said10:25
llutz_linocisco: mysqldump -h host -u root -p  databasename >database.sql      the resulting file can be imported the same way into your lamp-mysql10:28
linociscollutz_, what do you mean by resulting file?? any screenshot on step by step??10:29
llutz_linocisco: more info in the mysql-documentation (dev.mysql.com)10:29
blackshirtllutz_ thats command would redirected the output to the sql file10:30
karthick87thankyou llutz_10:30
llutz_blackshirt: yes, thats what it's supposed to do10:31
blackshirtllutz__ he should understand :d10:31
llutz_blackshirt: then you'd better address him ;)10:32
blackshirtllutz__, it's no matter :d10:33
puddlehi everyone10:34
cfhowlettpuddle10:34
blackshirthe puddle10:34
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puddleguys I am trying to switch from windows to linux (ubuntu) and looking for alternatives to softwares I am currently using, most of them I already replaced but I still would need to find a good alternative to FeedDemon and Yahoo Widgets, maybe someone could point me to the right direction?10:38
joru#join #ubuntu-se10:38
jorusorry10:38
EaglemanCan i convert my pop3 mailbox from my ISP to an imap mailbox, but setting up a mail server and recieveing mail from an pop3 server and then recieve the e-mail using imap from the mail server?10:39
AdvoWorkhi there, i did a time rsync ..... and it says: real395m6.208s user31m19.605s sys4m41.142s  is that the time bit?10:39
SpacePoetwhere do i find source files for installed programs?10:40
winxpvboxpuddle: what is feeddemon?10:40
puddlewell its a feed reader on windows which I got used to10:40
winxpvbox!rss | puddle10:40
puddleits not avaible for ubuntu but a good alternative would be nice10:40
no_gravityHello! What are popular alternatives to ubuntu 12? I was happy with ubuntu 11 but i cannot cope with ubuntu 11. My workflow is different. Its slow and crashes often.10:41
jilt007Is there any way to edit pdf file?10:41
cfhowlettno_gravity: lubuntu/xubuntu10:41
winxpvbox!equivalent | puddle10:41
ubottupuddle: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot10:42
cfhowlettjilt007: gimp10:42
jilt007cfhowlett: Thanks!10:42
crizis!nounity | no_gravity10:42
ubottuno_gravity: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:42
mj_how can install ubuntu in terminal10:42
InspectorCluseaupuddle, > http://alternativeto.net/software/feeddemon/10:43
ActionParsnipno_gravity: just install xfce, kde or lxde and it won't be ran10:43
puddlewell actually I asked because I was curious about what u guys think, I am not exactly new to linux but pretty much new to what software is avaible for desktop and which ones are considered the best ones10:43
ActionParsnipno_gravity: you don't have to use unity shell in 12.04 (ubuntu 12 doesn't exist)10:43
no_gravityActionParsnip: i installed the xubuntu-desktop. is that xfce?10:44
winxpvboxno_gravity: yes10:44
ActionParsnipno_gravity: yes, xubuntu uses xfce+xfwm instead of gnome+compiz byu default10:44
no_gravitywinxpvbox: thanks. its too slow. the notebook is damn slow with ubuntu 12 and xubuntu.10:44
no_gravitywinxpvbox: it works fine with debian 6, but i would like something more modern.10:44
winxpvboxno_gravity: then try lubuntu10:45
ActionParsnipno_gravity: could use Lubuntu :)10:45
winxpvboxno_gravity: sounds like your notebook is getting old10:45
lusersHi. I got a question about mounting. How can I mount /dev/mapper/black_ninja/{Documents, Videos, Templates, etc} to ~/ in one command? I don't want to do ~/black_ninja/{Documents, Video, Templates, etc}10:45
kenshiroHi, what's the best way to change login screen picture in ubuntu 12.04 ? I don't want to use external applications as Ubuntu Tweak10:46
cabulosowhats the best *box window manager these days?10:46
winxpvboxcabuloso: no such thing as best10:46
no_gravitywinxpvbox: yeah, downloading lubuntu right now.10:46
puddleone more thing I would like to ask you, i had problems with ubuntu, it did freeze on install for 2 weeks i tried numerous way to install it, did check memory and hdd did not find any problems, later i managed to install ubuntu and after a kernel update it stopped freezing, well it only froze once since but seemed like a software issue, any idea what might have been the issue?10:46
ActionParsnipkenshiro: there is no single best way, there are many different ways10:47
no_gravitywinxpvbox: it is old. but it works fine with debian 6. so instead of switching i would rather stay with that os.10:47
ActionParsnipkenshiro: one way is to use ubuntu-tweak10:47
Kingsyso does anyone in here use the xorg-edgers ppa ? out of curiousity ?10:48
winxpvboxno_gravity: use whatever you are comfortable with but we can only support ubuntu here10:48
ActionParsnipKingsy: i use the edgers update ppa for newer nvidia drivers10:48
serdotlinechoHi guys, i'm trying to understand what is the meaning of asterisk symbol on Boot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226357/10:48
kenshiroActionParsnip I tried lightdm application, it's installed by default but doesn't even loads. What's the manual method to change login picture?10:48
winxpvboxKingsy: ppas are unsupported 3rd party packages10:48
winxpvboxKingsy: if something goes wrong you are on your own10:49
puddlebtw none can suggest a good desktop weather application that is actually developed still? (like gdesklet or screenlets)10:49
Kingsywinxpvbox: I know, I am asking if anyone in here uses it..10:49
ActionParsnipkenshiro: possibly in lightdm.conf some place10:49
KingsyActionParsnip: hmm I didnt think you thought the ppa was a good idea ?10:49
MonkeyDustpuddle  i use this   indicator-weather10:50
puddlety for the tip10:50
kenshiroactionparsnip ok thank you10:50
K350any really small and tiny nonsense app in the ubuntu repo?10:51
MonkeyDustK350  come again?10:51
crizisK350, cowsay :D10:51
K350Need it for checking a script I'm doing. So a small nosense app for lot's of install/uninstallation  would e nice10:51
crizisK350, sudo apt-get install cowsay10:52
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crizisK350, you won't be disappointed!10:52
K350cowsay eh..lol..ok I'll try that one10:52
ActionParsnipKingsy: read the description on the PPA website10:52
KingsyActionParsnip: yeah I have..10:53
crizisK350, also remember to test it, "cowsay I'm useless app"10:53
ActionParsnipgood ol cowsay10:53
K350crizis:  haha..well let's see :-)10:53
Eiegehello10:53
KingsyActionParsnip: what I have done. install the ppa, apt-get upgrade. Rebooted it worked then I disabled the ppa.. so it wont install anything else.10:53
ActionParsnipKingsy: thats one way10:53
K350crizis: testing it..oh..yea, of coruse..I forgot  :-D10:54
ActionParsnipcrizis: fun to mix cowsay with fortune :)10:54
KingsyActionParsnip: yeah.. probably not the best way I assume?10:54
Guest94577lshw shows my chipset unclaimed - can anyone help?10:54
serdotlinechoI need to know in which drive is my mbr? Here the fdisk -l output:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226357/10:54
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K350Hm..ok it's small enough for my needs..thansk guys :-)10:55
Guest94577serdotlinecho: sda10:55
Guest94577sda110:56
Guest94577can anyone help with :        *-serial UNCLAIMED10:56
Guest94577             description: SMBus10:56
Guest94577             product: 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller10:56
Guest94577             vendor: Intel Corporation10:56
Guest94577             physical id: 1f.310:56
FloodBot1Guest94577: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:56
Guest94577             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.310:56
serdotlinechoGuest94577:so the asterisk * is my mbr?10:57
cousin_luigiGreetings.10:57
Guest94577yes10:57
cousin_luigiHow do I change the defaults for a multimedia keyboard?10:57
serdotlinechoGuest94577: Thanks :)10:57
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EaglemanHow do i remove: You have mail.11:00
Eaglemanwhen logging in on the cli11:00
winxpvboxEagleman: check it: mail11:00
Eaglemani dont have mail11:00
slugsluglook in /var/spool/mail11:00
Eiege大家好11:00
safecancelcan i get ubuntu working on my MacBookAir4,111:01
safecancel:'(11:01
Eaglemanand then?11:01
Eiege能不能看到我发的消息?11:01
winxpvbox!mac | safecancel11:01
ubottusafecancel: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages11:01
slugslugis there mail in there?11:01
Eaglemanonly names on my accountr11:01
winxpvboxEagleman: read it then quit11:01
Eaglemanhow do i read it?11:01
safecancelwinxpvbox: wonderful - thanks :)11:01
cfhowlett!zh|Eiege:11:01
ubottuEiege:: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw11:01
slugslugwith cat11:01
slugslugthen delete it11:01
Eiegeubottu: 谢谢11:01
Eaglemani am using Maildir with e-mail11:02
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EaglemanSo how did the e-mail got there?11:03
winxpvboxEagleman: all unix systems have mail11:04
Eaglemanwhat?11:04
slugslugif you have not setup an email server then its most likley a service emailing you reports / errors?  what was in the mail?11:04
mattyki like ubuntu sooo much11:04
Eaglemancant remember11:04
Eaglemandid not really read it11:05
EaglemanBut i've set it up using ~./Maildir11:05
Eaglemanso mail should be there11:05
cousin_luigiHow do I change the defaults for a multimedia keyboard?11:06
ActionParsnip!shortcut | cousin_luigi11:06
ubottucousin_luigi: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts11:06
cousin_luigiActionParsnip: They already work, but the function I'd like to change doesn't appear among the keyboard shortcuts.11:07
T4shiHi anyone can paste me my whois result?11:09
slugslugwhois T4shi11:09
EaglemanIf i create a folder in my imap mailbox, where can i find this specific folder on my system?11:10
MonkeyDustT4shi  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226383/11:10
crizisEagleman, imap folders reside at server, not on your system11:10
Eaglemanyes but where can i find that folder on the server11:11
Eaglemanthat it what i meant11:11
ActionParsnipT4shi: http://pastie.org/479682611:11
aetherT4shi: you can whois yourself11:12
slugslug!whois slugslug11:12
crizisdepends on email server. look for its documentation where it stores user data11:12
EaglemanI''ve set it up with ~./Maildir using dovecot11:13
ActionParsnip!keyboard11:13
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard | KDE: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout | XFCE: Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard, Layout11:13
ActionParsniphmm11:13
ActionParsnipcousin_luigi: I'd look into xbindkeys11:14
ActionParsnipcousin_luigi: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/823311:14
karthick87I did this already  "~/.config/user-dirs.dirs". The folders are deleted from my /home but they are remaining in Dash. How to fix it ??11:16
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cousin_luigiActionParsnip: It wasn't installed. Shouldn't already be there for it to work?11:18
ActionParsnipcousin_luigi: you need to configure it and so forth11:20
cousin_luigiActionParsnip: But it's already working and I'd like to change the current behaviour.11:20
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MonkeyDustcousin_luigi  then maybe you should explore the options and possibilities of xbindkeys11:21
cousin_luigiMonkeyDust: How can I be sure it won't simply superimpose on the actions already configured by gnome?11:25
ActionParsnipcousin_luigi: or you can use ccsm, you can define actions then set the shortcuts that make it happen (shortcut, hot corner etc)11:27
MonkeyDustcousin_luigi  guess nobody ever tried what you want to do, you're on the way of becoming the expert11:28
cousin_luigiMonkeyDust: I see.11:28
cousin_luigiWell, the problem is the computer shuts down immediately when pushing that button, so I find that hard to believe:/11:28
cousin_luigiIn any case, thanks for the hints.11:28
cousin_luigibye11:29
blinky1hi! i'm new here. is this a good channel to ask for support?11:30
catphishblinky1: yes11:30
cfhowlettblinky1: yes for ubuntu11:30
blinky1good ;)11:31
blinky1i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and want to get audio over hdmi running11:31
blinky1this is my card:(via lspci): 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)11:31
Hatori!nvidia11:32
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:32
catphishblinky1: have you installed the nvidia drivers? i'd expect it to just work11:32
Hatori!nvidia | blinky111:32
ubottublinky1: please see above11:32
blinky1in the drivers dialog i have four options. i don't understand which one to chose :(11:32
blinky1thanks for the link!11:33
nsudofolks need a vpn for 12.04 which one is good11:33
catphishopenvpn11:33
ActionParsnipnsudo: network manager has vpn functionality in it11:34
AdvoWorkhi there, i did a time rsync ..... and it says: real395m6.208s user31m19.605s sys4m41.142s  is that the time bit?11:34
ActionParsnipnsudo: 'good' is an opinion, nothing more11:34
blinky1so what is the right driver/module string for this to work??11:34
catphishi'd just install the normal nvidia driver from the drivers dialog that comes up11:35
catphish(the one that isn't post-updates has been more reliable in my experience)11:35
nsudoActionParsnip ; Thanks Also my soundcard does not work can you help11:36
blinky1@catphish my problem is: drivers dialog is in german translation and not very easy to understand..11:36
catphishwhat drivers do you see?11:37
blinky1@catphish: there are for options, all of them have NVIDIA in their name :?11:37
blinky1rough translation:11:37
blinky11: accelerated graphics driver from NVIDIA (version 173)11:37
winxpvboxblinky1: 173, looks like you have an old nvidia card11:38
blinky12: NVIDIAs accelerated graphics driver (updated) (version 173-updates)11:38
blinky13: accelerated graphics driver from NVIDIA (current) (recommended)11:38
catphish(3) is what you want11:38
blinky14: NVIDIAs accelerated graphics driver (updated) (version-current-updates)11:39
blinky1so number 3?11:39
catphishyes11:39
ActionParsnipnsudo: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh11:39
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blinky1that is the one currently active11:39
blinky1@catphish but the audio-settings has only two cards: "digital out (SPDIF)" and "analog out"11:40
d3bugcan't build xf86-video-intel-git.  it seems to be looking for libuxa.la which i cannot figure out what is supposed to produce that library.11:40
d3bugi have googled, and nothing i have found gives any hint as to where to get it or what package it is a part of.11:40
ActionParsnip!find libuxa.la11:41
ubottuPackage/file libuxa.la does not exist in precise11:41
ActionParsnip!find libuxa11:41
ubottuPackage/file libuxa does not exist in precise11:41
d3bugits a big mystery... lol11:41
nsudoActionParsnip ; http://pastebin.com/yb3c9guA11:42
blinky1@winxpvbox: what was that with "old nvidia card"?11:42
winxpvboxblinky1: drop the @11:42
winxpvboxblinky1: 173 is the old nvidia driver11:43
ActionParsnipnsudo: oh i hate when it does that, gimme a sec11:43
d3bugguess I'll try a bit later... ty anyway11:45
catphishblinky1: not sure why the audio wasn't wouldn't be picked up :(11:45
nsudoActionParsnip ; cool11:45
ActionParsnipnsudo: looks like its being updated. I used to have the file in my dropbox too :(11:46
ActionParsnipnsudo: if someone else has it then you can run it, its also in Quantal by default too, but sadly not in Precise which I am on11:46
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blinky1catphish:  :( any other hints? i'm somewhat comfortable with fiddling with settings etc... but for this i have just no idea what to start with11:50
blinky1should i be able to find sth in logfiles?11:51
nsudoActionParsnip ; cool11:51
bitbuzzerhow do i change the color of #comments in config files (like apache.conf) ?11:52
jribbitbuzzer: depends on the text editor11:53
blinky1winxpvbox: could i just use/get the newer driver?11:53
TJ-bitbuzzer: They don't have a colour - but some text editors colourise them to aid reading11:53
bitbuzzerjrib, vim11:53
winxpvboxblinky1: no, you have an older card, so 173 is the proper driver for you11:53
catphishblinky1: i'm not sure, sorry, i don't know if the audio and video drivers are related11:53
catphishdoes anybody know if it's possible to prompt for network config when using kickstart?11:54
catphishmy installation seems to use default config and not prompt11:54
blinky1winxpvbox: so no audio over hdmi on UBUNTU for me?11:54
somanHi all. I'm applied some updates in Ubuntu 12.04 and now I can't set a 1280x1024 resolution for my monitor. 1024x768 only available. How I can change it? Before updating I installed a nVidia driver from official website11:55
nsudoActionParsnip ; no luck so far11:56
winxpvboxblinky1: no idea sorry, i've never used hdmi11:56
blinky1winxpvbox: kk thx11:56
blinky1catphish: do you know any other place to ask?11:56
catphishblinky1: ##linux maybe11:57
blinky1catphish: thx!11:57
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catphishalso, google it11:57
blinky1catphish: i did ;)11:58
TJ-catphish: I believe this might do it: "network --device=eth0 --bootproto=query"11:58
blinky1catphish: it's always "just select nvidia driver, select audio card, be happy..."11:58
catphishblinky1: yeah, i'd have expected that to work :(11:59
catphishtry the 173 driver if you haven't already11:59
catphishfailing that, you could try uninstalling the driver and  installing the latest one manually from nvidia, but not sure that's worth it11:59
rp2any xrdp users here? I find http://ubuntuwiki.net/index.php/Xrdp,_installing rather confusing (it says two things that are wrong, luckily I only read it after successful installation)12:00
blinky1catphish: i'm pretty sure i tried all 4. what are the package names for those drivers?12:02
catphishnot package nemes12:02
catphishif you want the latest ones, you uninstall the using ubuntu12:02
catphishthen go to the nvidia website12:02
winxpvboxcatphish: that isn't a good idea12:03
catphishwhere you can download the latest ones12:05
catphish*uninstall the ubuntu ones12:05
catphishdon't do it unless you're desperate though, they're not supported by ubuntu12:05
catphishit's not supported, but it often works well12:05
catphishi wouldnt recommend it unless he exhausts all other options12:05
blinky1catphish: winxpvbox: hmmm12:06
TJ-Are you discussing bleeding-edge Nvidia drivers? They are made available via a PPA you know12:06
InsaneGeneHello peeps, I need a good HTTP proxy client, something easy to use like FreeGate on windows, any suggestions please?12:07
catphishi have used that ppa now actually, it's a better choice12:07
TJ-https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates12:08
blinky1TJ-:: thx!12:08
catphishTJ-: thanks12:08
blinky1btw: how to explain pidgin to open URLs in browser?12:08
alkisgOn an sshfs mount with follow_symlinks, how can I delete a symlink?12:08
InsaneGene#linuxac12:09
Eaglemanrm link?12:09
catphishdelete the link as normal?12:09
catphishit may delete the destination, test first :)12:09
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alkisgcatphish: when the link targets a directory, rm refuses to delete it, it thinks it's a directory instead of a symlink12:10
alkisgI tried it, and I cannot find a way, that's why I'm asking :)12:10
alkisgI can only `mv` a symlink, I cannot `rm` it... or at least I don't know how12:11
lordlucanI've have installed a Intel 5100 wireless card in my nettop. However I my wireless network is not showing. Do I need a driver? How do I install it please?12:11
catphishalkisg: you probably can't do anything about the directory problem12:11
baier_Someone with /wc12:11
alkisgThank you catphish12:12
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MonkeyDust!wifi | lordlucan start here12:12
ubottulordlucan start here: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:12
catphishTJ-: "network --device=eth0 --bootproto=query" didn't work :(12:12
lordlucanthank you ubottu12:12
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baierSorry for the last one. Does somebody have any experience with Ubuntu 12.04 shortcuts not working? More specifically Ctrl+Super+Left/Right to snap windows so that they cover the entire side of the left/right side of the screen. Both in gnome and unity.12:13
TJ-catphish: phooey! I'm guessing the "bootproto=query" is the key part. It's worth checking the anaconda source-code for the package to see if/how it is used12:13
catphishah "Also, the --bootproto=query option is deprecated. If you want to prompt for network configuration in the first stage of installation, use the asknetwork option."12:13
catphishi'll try that12:13
TJ-alkisg: Instead of "-o follow_symlinks" you might try "-o transform_symlinks" - which transforms them into relative links (OK as long as you're not wanting to traverse different file-systems)12:14
zykotick9baier: i was under the impress (perhaps incorrectly) that only Unity has the "snap" feature12:14
TJ-catphish: yay... documentation112:14
zykotick9s/impress/impression/12:14
bretth anybody know if Calligra will be default office in Kubuntu12.10?12:14
catphishTJ-: at least you gave me something to google :)12:15
baierzykotick9: No, my computer at work runs in gnome and has the snapping-feature12:15
alkisgTJ-: unfortunately we need to traverse different file systems12:15
TJ-catphish: :D what would we do without out? We'd still be using the 'gopher' protocol!12:16
zykotick9baier: ok sorry, you'd know better then i would... my bad.12:16
baierzykotick9: ..but it doesn't work on my personal lap-top:(12:16
TJ-alkisg: In which case, as "follow_symlinks" literally replaces them, I don't think you can delete them from the client side12:16
TJ-baier: Ctrl+Super+Left/Right with 12.04 Unity works correctly here. Maybe you've bound the Super (Meta) and/or Ctrl keys to some other action ?12:17
alkisgTJ-: gotcha, I was hoping there would be a tool to instruct sshfs that for this particular call we don't want it to follow the symlinks but operate on them12:17
catphishaargh "The asknetwork parameter is obsolete in Fedora 17 and later releases. If specified it will have no effect."12:18
baierTJ-: Ty. I'll go back to Unity and check.12:18
TJ-catphish: Someone's messin' with you!12:18
catphishTJ-: i agree!12:19
TJ-alkisg: As you're already using SSH, why not just "ssh <host> rm -f /path/to/link"12:19
catphishoh, asknetwork is a kernel option not a kickstart option for a start12:20
alkisgTJ-: there's a control socket open to the server but it belongs to root, not the user, so it would require a password prompt there, and I can't do that for a service script12:20
alkisgThank you though, I'll do some workarounds12:20
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drupinhttp://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/  this is my system infor what is missing here12:23
TJ-alkisg: How about a script on the server using inotify against "/some/path/to/file" that waits for that file to be created, reads a path from it, does "rm -f <path>", deletes the file, and goes back to waiting?12:23
TJ-Oh he's gone, now he'll never know the really neat solution :p12:23
MonkeyDustdrupin  start from the beginning, what brings you here12:24
drupinMonkeyDust: some drivers are missing i guess box freezes some times if over loaded....12:24
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MonkeyDust!details > drupin12:26
ubottudrupin, please see my private message12:26
drupinko12:26
TJ-drupin: "overloaded" == problem , not missing drivers. No driver == hardware not being used12:27
AdvoWorkim trying to kill a process(3 of them) running by testuser, ive tried kill id, it gave no error, but still running, but it says [awk]  then [dirname] so i assume these are threads,how can i get rid of these by that user?12:27
drupinok TJ-12:27
winxpvboxAdvoWork: kill -9 pid12:27
TJ-drupin: Best place to start in resolving such issues is /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog12:27
drupinubottu: box freezez .. running 12.04 .. when too many apps running...12:28
ubottudrupin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:28
AdvoWorkwinxpvbox, still does the same12:28
drupinohh12:28
drupinMonkeyDust: box freezez .. running 12.04 .. when too many apps running...12:28
MonkeyDustdrupin  start by not using compiz12:28
drupinhow12:29
drupinlet me see logs12:29
drupincompiz?12:30
tsimpsonAdvoWork: they are defunct, that means that they're dead, just not cleared up by it's parent process12:30
MonkeyDustdrupin  what is 'too many apps' and what apps are they?12:31
drupinGoogle chrome with 10 tabs... two terminal two thunar. etc12:32
drupini am running a 32 bit OS on 64 bit core12:32
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MonkeyDustdrupin  it would have saved time, if you said all that in your first question12:34
* dr_willis dident evn see the first question. 12:34
drupinMonkeyDust: yeah... sorry for that12:36
drupinactually got mixed up12:36
AdvoWorktsimpson, how do i get rid of them then?12:37
AdvoWorkor remove their parent process12:37
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lusonghello everybody12:37
drupindr_willis: running Google chrome with 10 tabs... two terminal two thunar. etc freezes my box...12:37
nicferrierI am having a frustrating issue with unity on 12.04. when alt-tab apps you have to wait for about a second before the new app actually gets focus. it makes keyboard switching very annoying. is this a general problem or is it me somehow?12:38
drupinhttp://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/  this is my system info dr_willis12:38
tsimpsonAdvoWork: you don't need to, they are dead. if you really want them gone, then whatever process created them needs killing/ending12:38
drupinhow i stop compiz MonkeyDust12:38
MonkeyDustdrupin  by not using unity12:39
dr_willisi never have figured out why people need 5+ tabs open at a time.12:39
MonkeyDustdrupin  install lxde or xfce or fallback and select that in the lightdm login menu12:40
drupini need to runn around them here and there12:40
dr_willisif you want to save  some system resources then a lighter desktop/wm maay help a little12:40
drupinits ubuntustudio12:40
dr_willislubuntu/lxde is the lightest ubuntu    full featured desktop12:40
MonkeyDustdrupin  #ubuntustudio12:40
drupinbut this is basic ubuntu queries12:41
dr_willisubuntustudio i think used a different kernel by default also.12:41
drupinOIC12:41
patrickgameris there a set of specialized/customized Ubuntu Server images for small devbox use (read: dedicated Apache, dedicated MySQL, etc. with low system requirements)? I don't want to spend the time tweaking if I don't have to.12:41
dr_willisinstall lubuntu, see if thgat desktop preforms better i guess.12:41
MonkeyDustpatrickgamer  there's also #ubuntu-server12:41
theplanetguys, i need to stop sshd and keep it from running at boot12:41
drupinlubuntu ok12:42
dr_willisset up flashblock in the browser so flash dosent hog the system.12:42
patrickgamerMonkeyDust:  kk thanks12:42
dr_willistheplanet:  you want to start it by hand if needed?12:42
theplanetdr_willis, yeah12:42
drupinlet me login again with xfce desktop12:43
dr_willistheplanet:  then you need to find/edit that sshd.conf upstart file to make it not autorun. or i think theres some sorrt of 'override' file also12:43
theplanetwhere are upstart files located12:44
dr_willis!upstart12:44
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/12:44
dr_willis  /etc/init  i think12:44
AdvoWorktsimpson, can i find what process created them?12:49
theplanetdr_willis, is removing that conf file enough?12:52
Guest19914o12:52
Guest19914ciao12:52
Guest19914!list12:52
ubottuGuest19914: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:52
dr_willistheplanet:  rename it to sshd.dontrun  will disable it12:53
dr_willistheplanet:  but then the service command cant start it12:54
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theplanetoh12:55
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theuseri have a ubuntu laptop that turns it self of quite frequently12:56
theuseri dont have time to see what the messages on the console is before it shuts down12:57
theuserwhich logfiles would contain this info12:57
dr_willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files12:57
dr_willistheplanet:  check the above.  more info then i will ever need.12:58
theplanetthanks dr_willis12:59
theplaneti think i am leaving ubuntu13:00
theplanetfor fedora13:00
theplaneti need selinux's ability to restrict directories to certain binaries13:01
retyuliciao13:01
retyuli=)13:01
retyuli!list13:01
ubotturetyuli: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:01
k1l_!ot > theplanet13:01
ubottutheplanet, please see my private message13:01
Wilson2BHi all...13:02
namidarkHow can I get mdadm to add 2 new disks to a raid0 set? Everything I try (combos of --grow and --add don't work); mdadm --add /dev/md127 /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi is my latest attempt and its giving me a add new device failed for /dev/xvdh as 2: Invalid argument13:05
fantaghircan anybody tell me what development tool could I use to write helloworld app for windows phone 8? because I tried VS express 2010 but it is 7.5 phone only13:07
dehello, gnome shell does not run well on my ubuntu 12.0413:07
tambuHey guys, ubuntu 12.04 update replaced graphics drivers and now i just get a blank screen after selecting the grub prompt, isn't there a way to add "quiet splash text" to the grub command to make it boot into console? I know about doing it in /etc/default/grub but I can't get into that file without being able to see13:07
debut my hardware is more than up to par for it13:07
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TJ-namidark: I think you'll need to tell it which RAID level as well13:07
SwedeMikenamidark: mdadm --manage /dev/md127 --add /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi doesn't work? what kernel version and mdadm version are you using?13:08
tf81_netbookwhats going on with the ppa nvidia drivers? gdm won't start unless i remove them13:08
winxpvboxtf81_netbook: ppas are unsupported here13:08
Wilson2BUnity screwed my 12.0413:08
Wilson2Bwierd graphic blanks out and has a bunch of errors.13:09
SwedeMikenamidark: you should go to #linux-raid channel btw, greater chance that someone will know the answer there.13:09
tf81_netbookwinxpvbox:  its the ubuntu x-swat ppa13:09
Wilson2BI went into software center and removed/reinstalled Unity and Compiz13:09
Wilson2Bno problem in 2D mode13:09
tf81_netbookthe error i get is the kernel module has version 304.43, component has version 304.5113:11
winxpvboxtf81_netbook: all ppas are unsupported13:12
nsudoActionParsnip ; no luck so far13:12
nsudoActionParsnip ; no luck so far13:12
nsudoActionParsnip ; do u have any other solution to fix my sound13:13
OerHekstf81_netbook, contact the maintainer of the ppa13:13
tf81_netbookand where do i do that?13:13
tf81_netbooki'm in cli only13:13
OerHekstf81_netbook, @ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates13:14
namidarkSwedeMike: nope; same error; mdadm - v3.2.5 and 3.2.0-29-virtual13:15
namidarkk :)13:15
TJ-namidark: I tested here: "sudo mdadm --grow  --raid-devices=3 --add /dev/md127 /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi"13:15
tf81_netbookOerHeks:  who is the maintainer of the ubuntu x-swat ppa?13:16
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TJ-namidark: When growing a RAID0 you need to add the spares *and* increase the number of disks in the same command, hence using "--raid-devices=X" to tell it the new number of disks in the array13:16
namidarkTJ-: wouldn't it be 4 if im adding 2 to an existing 2?13:16
TJ-namidark: Of course -  I was testing it from a base of 113:16
OerHekstf81_netbook, i don't know13:16
alycolashello13:16
namidarkTJ-: it worked :D13:17
TJ-namidark: ker-ching :p13:17
tf81_netbookoh nevermind, pc works with the slightly older nvidia.run file i hadn't deleted yet13:17
tf81_netbooki'll just use it until i download the newer one from the nvidia site13:17
TimothyAI have come across an urgent issue. I find myself to be unable to start another SSH session to my server, and I'm getting this in /var/log/auth.log: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key13:17
TimothyAanyone could help me with that?13:17
A[D]minS!openstack13:18
rokahey there13:18
TJ-TimothyA: see bug #100544013:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1005440 in openssh (Ubuntu) ""Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key" when connecting" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100544013:18
rokai cannot connect to wifi. anyone could help me?13:19
ActionParsniproka: what wifi chip?13:19
rokarealtek13:19
ActionParsniproka: ok, which realtek wifi chip please?13:19
TimothyATJ-: that bug describes they can still connect successfully13:20
rokahow can i check that,13:20
roka?13:20
TimothyAI cannot connect at all13:20
ActionParsniproka: sudo lshw -C network       will tell you13:20
TimothyAat least, it throws me auth before I can authenticate13:20
namidarkTJ-: is it normal for it to say adding and then mdadm: /dev/md127: could not set level to raid0 ?13:20
TimothyA*out13:20
rokaRTL8101E/RTL8102E13:21
rokathis is my chipset13:21
rokai use ubuntu 12.04 lts13:21
llutzTimothyA: "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key"13:21
Skapareroka: 12.04.1 is out13:21
theplanetecdsa is used now?13:21
theplanetthat's good13:22
rokashould i upgrade?13:22
TimothyAllutz: already did that. nothing changed13:22
TimothyAI still get thrown out13:22
Skapareroka: always ... but apt-get upgrade will do it in place13:22
TimothyA"Server unexpectedly closed connection"13:22
theplanethow do i get the source for sshd?13:22
rokaokay i will try that13:22
killer_hi... i have installed kde and now i wanna uninstall unity how to do that ?13:23
llutztheplanet: http://www.openssh.org/13:23
Skaparetheplanet: download ... lots of places and distros have copies13:23
theplanetllutz, cant i get it from aptitude somehow?13:23
MonkeyDusttheplanet  you mean the package source?13:23
theplanet`yea13:23
llutztheplanet: apt-get source ...13:23
askerhi13:23
MonkeyDusttheplanet  apt-get source [pakage]13:24
theplanetthx13:24
askerHow can i reset all drivers to default13:24
askerHow can i reset all drivers to default ?13:24
dr_williswhat dr13:24
askerhi13:25
zykotick9asker: depends, did you install drivers from outside ubuntu?13:25
ActionParsniproka: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172013/realtek-semiconductor-co-ltd-rtl8101e-rtl8102e?rq=113:25
dr_willissince it depends on the driver13:25
TimothyASep 25 09:25:06 ns4001572 sshd[16401]: refused connect from13:25
jwtiyar_gdebi can not be closed and its freezing , how i can force close it?13:25
askeri used addional drivers but a problem to not connect wifi13:25
theplanetTimothyA, ssh -vvv user@host. read the output13:25
theplanetif you have't already13:25
zykotick9!aptlock | jwtiyar_ this might be handy for you shortly13:26
ubottujwtiyar_ this might be handy for you shortly: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:26
twitchiejwtiyar_: killall -9 gdebi13:26
zykotick9twitchie: don't suggest -9 until you know a regular kill/killall fails first...13:26
jwtiyar_twitchie, no process found13:26
TimothyAhttp://pastebin.com/AaiRtfrM13:27
dr_willisif its gui is showing  xkill can be used13:28
jribbitbuzzer: you can install different colorschemes, or modify the one you use now.  #vim can help you more with modifying vim syntax coloring13:28
rokai already tried that13:28
rokano dice13:28
bitbuzzerjrib, thx13:29
TimothyAtheplanet: http://pastebin.com/AaiRtfrM13:30
mads-j #ubuntu-dk-snak13:30
bitbuzzerjrib, a quick solution I found was to put "background=dark" in my .vimrc file, which gave me readable colors. I wasn't able to see comments since they were dark blue. thanks again13:31
TimothyAthe same happens with putty under windows, but much less log data13:31
mads-Is there some good software for recording my screen? Pref. with sound13:32
truexfan81ok i downloaded the 304.51 .run file and installed it, i'm good now :)13:32
BluesKajHi all13:33
TimothyAtheplanet: thanks for remaining completely inert! I wouldn't have solved it otherwise13:33
vividwould it be possible to decouple compiz from unity?13:33
Wizardvivid: It's been done in Unity-2D.13:33
vividyes, but you know, unity 2d ends at precise13:34
WizardThan, the answer is "with a lot of hard work"13:34
WizardUnity is in face a compiz plugin.13:34
vividor, starting over with metacity13:34
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MonkeyDustvivid  and no support, because nobody else has tried it13:35
stewbydooI tried installing ubuntu on my external hard drive and everything seemed to work until I tried to run it there. Now I am getting this "HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': inavlid argument"13:35
stewbydooI don't know why it is looking at sdb it should be looking at sd13:35
Guest16923Is this where I go for help?13:35
stewbydoosdc*13:35
MonkeyDustGuest16923  this is the ubuntu support channel13:35
vividMonkeyDust, well, the problems ive been facing with unity/compiz are all still the same as when it released.  so, not much support there either13:36
Wizardvivid: Still the same? What do you mean?13:36
vividpanel over fullscreen, buggy opacity, buggy settings, buggy fullscreen apps, lower framerates13:36
vividyou know, the same stuff13:37
Guest16923Thanks MonkeyDust. Complete noob fleeing from windows. Any suggestions?13:37
vividi mean, it cant be that hard to set metacity to compositing and use something like docky to fake the launcher...13:37
winxpvboxGuest16923: one suggestion: change your nick13:38
MonkeyDustGuest16923  use a live cd or usb to get used to ubuntu13:38
Madoxhello at all. can anyone tell me, why I could not find fieldrunners in USC? it is not shown, but listet here: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/fieldrunners/13:38
MonkeyDustoh, a game13:40
tacirusDid anybody achieve to use bash functions in Easystroke?13:40
DJonesMadox: What version of Ubuntu are you using13:40
Madoxhello DJones: i am using ubuntu 12.04 x6413:41
vividnot available for me either13:41
DJonesMadox: Same as me, doesn't show for me either13:42
DJonesMadox: Looks like there's been a problem with it and its not in USC, I found a like explaining how to install it on the forums though (if that helps) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204285713:45
MadoxDJones: thx. so it seem a problem in general (?)13:45
MadoxDJones: ok, readed your last message to late. thank you13:46
jmtheronHello after a clean install of ubuntu server how do i get a ip  from the dhcp server(a different windows server)13:49
arabihello guys i need an urgent help please please13:49
MonkeyDustvivid  if you don't care about the compositor and the launcher, you could also switch to a different desktop environment13:49
arabii am tired installing ruby on rails on ubuntu :(13:49
jordanmjmtheron: dhclient eth013:49
arabianyone know exactly how to setup ruby on rails on precise ?13:50
arabithanks in advance13:50
jmtherontried dhclient eth0 but then when i do ifconfig there is no ip13:50
jmtheron...for  eth013:50
arabihello pleas help to setup ruby on rails on ubuntu13:50
MonkeyDustarabi  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails13:51
baszHi does anyone know if there is more up-to-date roundcube (webmail) available. apt-get install 0.7.1-2 (while they are at 0.7.3 or 0.8.1.13:51
TJ-jmtheron: check /var/log/syslog for clues as to whether dhclient is getting a DHCPOFFER13:51
baszi'm on 12.04LTS13:51
arabiDust I have gone thorugh that allready13:51
arabiI always getting error related to sqllite3 :(13:52
TJ-arabi: Show is the exact error you're seeing, then we may be able to help13:52
MonkeyDustarabi  looks it's a apache and server thing, better ask in #ubuntu-server13:52
arabiGem::Installer::ExtensionBuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.13:53
arabi        /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 extconf.rb13:53
arabi/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- mkmf (LoadError)13:53
arabifrom /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require'13:53
arabifrom extconf.rb:3:in `<main>'13:53
arabiGem files will remain installed in /home/arabi/.bundler/tmp/9416/gems/sqlite3-1.3.6 for inspection.13:53
FloodBot1arabi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:53
arabiResults logged to /home/arabi/.bundler/tmp/9416/gems/sqlite3-1.3.6/ext/sqlite3/gem_make.out13:53
dr_willisbasz:  look for a ppa yet?13:53
baszdr_willis: I'm not sure how to do that - but I just found this http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/roundcube13:53
dr_willis!ppa > basz13:54
ubottubasz, please see my private message13:54
arabiTJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226649/ this is the ERROR please help13:54
TJ-arabi: What does this report? "which ruby"13:54
arabiruby 1.8.713:55
arabiTJ what i have to do13:55
vividMonkeyDust, no i kind of like the unity.  especially the dash which isnt available in the alternatives13:56
arabihttp://toranbillups.com/blog/archive/2010/09/01/How-to-install-Rails-3.0-and-Ruby-1.9.2-on-Ubuntu/  I have followed this tutorial exactly13:56
FreqitHi. I'm using ubuntu samba as PDC, for some reason the XP machines can't connect to each other correctly (needed for some office applications). When I try to ping "XPmachine02" from "XPmaxchine01"'s cmd it resolves some WAN-IP, not the correct LAN-IP. I think it might be a problem with the samba pdc configuration but I'm not sure. Can anybody advise?13:56
vividMonkeyDust, just looking for ways to solve the problems im having....which seem to go away with metacity....which is why i asked my original question13:56
yyzqui13:57
MonkeyDustvivid  then you may want to submit an idea in !brainstorm13:57
vividthey wont like my idea13:57
TJ-arabi: The error messages mentions the path for ruby 1.9.1 but it seems the default ruby is 1.8.7. I think you'll need to change the default ruby version using update_alternatives13:57
arabiTJ I have been trying it for two days :( no idea what to do13:57
Freqit(NET TREE in windows' cmd  shows all the names correctly, so does smbtree under ubuntu shell)13:57
arabiTJ letme try that13:58
vividMonkeyDust, actually while i was outside having a coffee just now, my idea was to download unity2d and maintain it myself :P but it needs window snapping and some other additions13:58
baszdr_willis: thx. I know about the existence of pap's I just can never work out how to do it and am unsure about it's possible conflicts with existing installations… what would the ppa for this package be?13:58
TJ-arabi: "sudo update-alternatives --config ruby"13:58
unicornHi there13:58
usr13Freqit: Sounds like a network problem.13:58
usr13Freqit: You might use router config to set permanent leases.13:59
lordlucanCan someone help me with xbmcbuntu and wireless please?14:00
TJ-Freqit: The clients will be using WINS for name resolution. Your Samba PDC will need to be running nbmd configured as the WINS server and its address given out as a DHCP option14:00
unicornDoes anyone know how I can add a compose key on my keymap? I would like that AltGr + o renders a 'œ'...14:00
nsudofolks need a vpn to browse sites in usa for ubuntu 12.0414:00
TJ-nsudo: Set up a free minimal AWS instance at a US data-center14:01
nsudoTJ Please elaborate i am a newbee14:02
nsudoTJ- Please elaborate i am a newbee14:02
TJ-nsudo: I take it you need to access a US site that restricts access based on geographical location?14:03
jmtheronVMware/ubuntu question. ok i think the dhcp problem is not with problem server but my vm i have my network adapter  set to bridge is this correct?14:03
nsudoTJ- Yes14:03
OerHeksnsudo pay for an VPN, and connect to it > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN14:03
jmtheroneven if i set a static ip i can ping the routers.14:03
nsudo0erHeks O'14:04
nsudoTJ- Thx14:04
Freqitusr13 , TJ- : it worked fine until we changed our router. Whatever name i try to ping from my win machines, they ping the OpenDNS IP 67.215.65.13214:05
TJ-nsudo: OK, so, get a free Amazon Web Services virtual server instance (minimal profile), install openvpn into it. Configure it and your PC to use openvpn to create an IP tunnel ("tun" not "tap" interface), configure the AWS instance for IP masquerading, and set a route on your local PC that sends all traffic for the US sites via the tunnel. That way, the destination site sees a US-based public IP address accessing it.14:06
usr13Freqit: Yep. It's a network issue.  You'll find solution(s) in router config14:06
TJ-Freqit: Is the router responsible for DHCP? If so, have you configured it to issue the WINS option to clients?14:06
nsudoTJ- Great! Bravo14:06
TJ-Freqit: My local dnsmasq DHCP server has this for WINS: "dhcp-option=44,10.254.251.1"14:08
Freqitusr13 , TJ- : it's a cisco RV042. It acts as the DHCP server (range 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.120), it uses the OpenDNS as it's primary DNS. No WINS setting is set.14:08
TJ-Freqit: Which means the XP clients will fall-back to using regular DNS to resolve the hosts14:09
TJ-Freqit: Set option 44 to the IP of your PDC that is doing WINS, in the router14:10
FreqitTJ- so I have to tell the router the linux machine is the WINS Server and set Samba to act as one?14:10
TJ-Freqit: Yes. Probably the Samba server is already configured to do WINS, but changing the router stopped option 44 being send to to DHCP clients14:10
AdvoWorki did a time rsync ..... and it says: real395m6.208s user31m19.605s sys4m41.142s  is that the time bit?14:11
AdvoWorki assume so, but does it literally mean the time it took to do the whole thing, i dont get the 3 diff sections>?14:11
Jamey_Hum14:11
Freqitsorry to sound dumb, but you lost me at "option 44". the smb.conf has the WINS part commented out.14:11
Jamey_j adore14:12
Freqit(or am i mixing stuff up here?)14:12
Jamey_oula14:12
Jamey_trop cool14:12
Pumpkin-AdvoWork: the "real" time is how long it took in clock time, from start to finish. The user and sys times are how much of your systems time it took (in user and kernel space).14:12
jmtheron VMware/ubuntu question.after i set my ip to 192.168.0.40/24 i cant ping 192.168.0.1/24(my router)  i have my network adapter  set to bridge is this correct?14:12
Npcmy laptop keeps dropping wireless connection, yet works well when using windows14:12
Npcany idea what could cause this?14:12
ActionParsnipNpc: its a completely different OS with different suppor14:12
ActionParsnip*support14:13
Npcyeah but one might expect an os to provide at least some level of connectivity these days14:13
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magarwalhow can i upgrade my perl version on ubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS without effecting any of the processes14:14
ActionParsnipNpc: what wifi chip do you use?14:14
magarwalmy perl version is 5.15 and i want to upgrade it to 5.1614:14
Npcsome realtek i think14:14
ActionParsnipNpc: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     it will tell you14:15
BadDesignHow do you add a manual page to the MANPATH I have tryed to add to .bashrc: export MANPATH="$MANPATH: /home/username/Software/CMake2.8.9/man/man1/ " but doesn't work14:15
ActionParsnip!ppa | magarwal14:15
ubottumagarwal: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:15
AdvoWorkPumpkin-, thanks for that, much appreciated14:15
magarwalthanks14:15
TJ-Freqit: "option 44" is a DHCP server option that will be needed in the router. That will be the IP address of the Samba server. On the Samba server, smb.conf should enable WINS server14:15
TJ-Freqit: Once the router and server are configured, and "sudo service nmbd restart" done, the clients will need to obtain new DHCP leases to receive option 44.14:16
Npcrealtek RTL8191SEvA14:16
magarwalcan i remove the existing perl simply by apt-get remove14:16
magarwaland then do the install14:16
foo357Hello, how do I uninstall python-based software?14:17
jribfoo357: depends how you installed it14:17
AdvoWorkPumpkin-, so 395m6.208s is 395 minutes, and 6.208seconds? or 6 seconds . 208 ms?14:17
foo357jrib: I installed it from soure14:17
jribfoo357: depends how you installed it from source14:17
Npcafter reboot wlan seems to work for a while14:17
ActionParsnipNpc: ok now you can use that to find guides etc14:17
ActionParsnipNpc: may also be a known bug14:17
Npcwell what i have found has been to disable power management14:18
Npcbut that doesn't help14:18
Npcor restart networking but that doesn't help either14:18
Npccould not using network manager help?14:19
Pierrebhi I'm trying to enable ssh for my ubuntu 12.04 machine but i can't connect to it, is there some setting in a firewall/selinux or whatever i have to change?14:19
ActionParsnipNpc: could disable n speed using module options may help. Also disable ipv6 with the boot option: ipv6.disable=114:20
ActionParsnipNpc: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see a lot of wireless networks using the same channel?14:21
ActionParsnipNpc: may help if all else fails: http://samiux.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/howto-rtl8191se-wireless-card-on.html14:23
Npci see a lot of networks14:24
Npcsome are maybe on a same channel14:24
Npcis ubuntu using some default driver and not realtek's official?14:26
usr13Pierreb: sudo apt-get install openssh-server14:26
JamieJHi. Does anyone know of open source software that allows temporary file hosting?14:27
ActionParsnipNpc: if you have a lot on the same channel, you'll have connection issues14:28
ActionParsnipJamieJ: samba, various ftp and sftp servers.....14:28
NpcActionParsnip: this runs well for a moment and then just becomes unusable, with windows it is mostly usable14:28
ActionParsnipNpc: i'd look at changing channel, may help14:29
JamieJActionParsnip: I mean like ready to go software that'll just turn a domain into a ready-made site14:29
JamieJI know they exist, just can't think of the name14:29
ActionParsnipJamieJ: website isn't really file hosting, do you want a web server or a file server14:30
MonkeyDustJamieJ  you mean drupal?14:31
NpcActionParsnip: this is the uni's network, can't change them14:31
fluitfrieshi, i issued the wrong usermod command and removed my user from all the groups it needed to be in.  can anyone help me re-add that user to the groups?  Lubuntu.14:31
Pierrebusr13: something was wrong with it but a restart solved it14:32
zykotick9fluitfries: for next time, -a for append for usermod14:32
fluitfrieszykotick9, yea, i know that now!!14:33
vividfluitfries, gnome-system-tools package also includes a GUI for your ease of modification14:33
fluitfrieszykotick9, i've got the lubuntu root filesystem mounted in my backtrack install, so i can edit the groups files...14:33
zykotick9fluitfries: bad idea.  but good luck.14:33
fluitfriesvivid, ok, a gui would probably help me.  :)14:34
jmtheronhow do i install kde without all the other desktop software on ubuntu?14:35
fluitfrieszykotick9, should i boot off a Lubuntu Live CD instead of using my BackTrack install to edit the group files??14:35
cheteenhi14:35
zykotick9fluitfries: i'd use Recovery mode myself.  and edit group files is the part i think is a "poor" (bad is a little too harsh) idea, use the proper command.14:36
ActionParsnipjmtheron: sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop14:36
ActionParsnip!info kde-plasma-desktop14:36
ubottukde-plasma-desktop (source: meta-kde): KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:71~pre15ubuntu12.3 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB14:36
cheteenanybody can help me?14:36
bazhangcheteen, ask the channel14:36
ActionParsnipcheteen: without asking, no14:37
fluitfrieszykotick9, the reading i have been doing suggests that i might need to edit at least one group file in order to get my user back into the admin group, then suggests issuing the commands for the rest of the group repairs...  sound right?14:37
cheteenhow I can join channel?14:37
bazhang /join #channel cheteen14:37
ActionParsnipcheteen: /join #channelname14:37
cheteenI need help for turkish channel14:37
cheteenI didnt see14:37
MonkeyDust!tr14:37
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.14:37
bazhang!tr | cheteen14:37
ubottucheteen: please see above14:37
cheteenok ty14:37
vividdo you guys have a country code cheatsheet or something?14:38
zykotick9fluitfries: that's why "recovery" mode would be beneficial.14:38
bazhangvivid, the ubottu factoids14:38
fluitfrieszykotick9, ok, i'll look into it, thanks.14:38
ActionParsnip!brain | vivid14:39
ubottuvivid: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots14:39
MonkeyDustvivid  sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop14:39
MonkeyDustoops14:39
agc93Has anyone on here set up a PPTP VPN on Ubuntu? (client only)14:43
jmtheronthanks ppl that was the info i was looking for14:44
LarsNis there a dedicated #ubuntu-(something) room for www.ubuntu.com/devices/android14:45
agc93LarsN: not an official one, at least14:46
foo357Hello, is there some way I can make a command execute after the current one is finished (without scripting)?14:46
agc93foo357: you can use command1 && command214:47
agc93or command1; command214:47
LarsNagc93: message received.14:47
agc93the first one will mean that command2 will only run if command1 is successful. The second version just runs them both regardless14:47
zykotick9foo357: the && means after 1st completed successfully, run 2nd14:47
vividagc93, where is the download for ubuntu android?14:47
crizisnowhere14:48
LarsNvivid: I "suspect" there isn't one yet.14:48
vividso its just a proof of concept page? looks interesting14:48
LarsNvivid: at least not outside Canonical.14:48
crizisit'll be only for handset makers14:48
agc93vivid: not exactly Proof of concept. It's an OEM-level product14:48
vividso but, its GPL'ed right?14:48
agc93as crizis said, its only for the manufacturers to ship with their devices14:48
agc93vivid: who knows14:48
LarsNI'd like very much to have an Ubuntu Set Top Box, and Ubuntu on my Android phone. :)14:49
agc93LarsN: wouldnt we all? :P14:49
criziswell, it's just arm build of ubuntu, so yes, it'll be open14:49
vividyea, looks like a cool idea, dont really like it as much if i have to buy a specific vendor's device though : (14:49
crizisthe problems start when you actually wanna run it on your phone... :)14:49
administratorhow to block usb in ubuntu14:49
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agc93crizis: it's a bit more than that, though. It's a whole webtop layer across Android.14:49
vividhave any of you tried it?14:49
Guest78241how to block usb in ubuntu ?14:50
agc93vivid: I very much doubt that. Not in any production phones yet, so a bit tricky.14:50
agc93Guest78421: what do you mean?14:50
vividbummer, id really like to get a day to hack on it14:50
LarsNI've got Ubuntu running on Android on my HP Touchpad.  but it's not exactly the experience I want.14:50
LarsNVNC into Ubuntu from Android leaves a lot to be desired.14:50
agc93LarsN: Yeah, the chroot/virtual is never as good14:50
ActionParsnipLarsN: what do you do on the remote system?14:50
LarsNActionParsnip: with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse it's an almost usable computer.14:51
vividLarsN, seems like the best part of ubuntu for android is that you have a good interface while only using the phone14:51
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LarsNActionParsnip: although the VNC, chroot, virtual bits make it a bit slow.14:51
vividversus trying to play with unity..14:51
adoet_tLarsN: depend your sdcard class14:52
LarsNI've been giving unity a chance this time around.14:52
Guest78241how to block usb in ubuntu ?14:52
vividLarsN, no i mean on a tiny phone screen14:52
LarsNadoet_t: hp touchpad, doesn't have an sd card.  32gb of internal storage :)14:52
agc93Guest78241: what do you mean by block?14:52
ActionParsnipGuest78241: you can take a user out of the plugdev group14:52
LarsNvivid: ah, yeah.14:52
Guest78241would like to block USB ports14:52
adoet_toh14:53
Guest78241means not want to use pen drive any more14:53
ActionParsnipGuest78241: I believe it will stop the new devices being detected and reacted to when they are connected14:53
agc93Guest78241: so no one can use them? Just take all the user accounts out of plugdev. Should do the job.14:53
Guest78241somthing like that14:53
agc93As ActionParsnip said, actually :P14:53
Guest78241how can i procd ?14:54
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ActionParsnipGuest78241: take the user out of the group, when it next logs in, it will be in effect14:55
storm-trooperHi, I have a non PAE laptop (Dell X1) and I'm having no luck upgrading to 12.4 It's currently on 10.10 Any sugestions?14:55
ActionParsnipstorm-trooper: you will need to clean install to make that jump14:55
ActionParsnipstorm-trooper: or you can upgrade to Natty, then to Oneiric, then to Precise14:56
Guest78241do you have any documents for that so it wil gre8 help for me14:56
ActionParsnipGuest78241: what is gre8 please?14:56
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Guest78241great help14:56
Guest78241do you have any documents for that so it will great  help for me14:57
ActionParsnipGuest78241: http://maketecheasier.com/add-remove-user-to-groups-in-ubuntu/2012/07/3014:57
storm-trooperActionParsnip: Tried that multiple flavors from net install to mini. Still no dice.14:58
ActionParsnipstorm-trooper: the xubuntu and lubuntu Ubuntu's do not use PAE by default14:58
THE_GFR|WORKstorm-trooper: maybe you need to buy some dice if you have none?14:59
Guest78241i refer that but i stuck on USB pen drive blocking so pls share tme how to block the same14:59
THE_GFR|WORKGuest14984: please be less specific.14:59
THE_GFR|WORKGuest78241: that was for you15:00
Guest78241i refer that link but could not work with my requirements15:00
storm-trooperActionParsnip: Will try xubuntu  Thanks.15:01
hsnmckhello, I have an encrypted file, the encryption is supposed to be very weak and I'm trying to decrypt it. I noticed that it has a string repeated a lot of time in the file... can anyone give me any hint on what is the encryption of this file? thanks.. this is the file: http://nova.polymtl.ca/~hamaka/secret-blueprint.encrypted15:04
Josh_Hello15:05
Josh_I installed cinnamon a while ago15:05
Josh_I am using it uptil now, without any problems, then I found out that the window manager is called muffin15:06
ikoniahsnmck: how do you know the encyption is weak if you don't know what type of encyption it is15:06
Josh_so I sudo apt-get install muffin15:06
Josh_Now, How do I switch from this Window manager15:06
ActionParsnipJosh_: cinammon isn't supported here15:06
hsnmckikonia, the person who encrypted told me15:06
Josh_ActionParsnip, This isn't related to cinnamon15:07
Josh_Kindly, read again15:07
ikoniahsnmck: ok, so he should be able to tell you what he used to encypt15:07
ActionParsnipJosh_: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace    yuo will be using metacity as the WM15:07
hsnmckikonia, he's a prof :p15:07
Josh_I would like to know "How to switch Window manager"15:07
ikoniahsnmck: so ?15:07
ikoniahsnmck: he can tell you what type of encyption he used.15:07
ActionParsnipJosh_: and I ghave told you so, kindly read again15:07
hsnmckhsnmck, well I'm supposed to find out15:07
Josh_You told that later, dear sir.15:07
ikoniahsnmck: ok - then that's not an "ubuntu" problem15:07
ActionParsnipJosh_: i have now told you :)15:08
Josh_mmhmm15:08
Josh_Well, I did metacity --replace15:08
Josh_Now I lost everything :D15:08
Josh_Including "taskbar" and all15:08
Josh_:P15:08
Josh_Do I press Ctrl+C?15:08
Josh_How do I get everything back without reboot15:09
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ActionParsnipJosh_: press ALT+F2 and run:  windowmanagername --replace     its how you switch WM... so the switching back method you already knew15:10
freddershey guys any1 here who would know why my comp detects my HDMI port as my primary audio output?15:14
ActionParsnipfredders: just change the audio device in the sound options15:14
dr_willismine defaults to hdmi also ive noticed15:14
freddersI have done that but it just changes back again15:15
dr_williswhen? om bootup?15:15
freddersyeah15:15
freddersI had it working earlier today. Then now it just changed back and won't play nice15:15
dr_willisbut not during the session?15:16
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freddersI get system audio from the speakers. But all applications are directed to the HDMI output15:16
quixotedoni'm using 12.04 updated yesterday, I've just realized that the bluetooth setting is not available such as adding a new connection and searching a device though i can turn it on using hardware switch15:20
Josh_ActionParsnip, So how you make it permenent :P15:20
tommy28ciao15:20
dr_willisno lists pleaase....15:20
dr_willis;)15:20
BluesKajhehe15:20
dr_willisits getting to be a 'meme' ;)15:21
MonkeyDustquixotedon  try blueman15:21
BluesKajwhy do the italians still think this is file sharing channel15:21
freddersDoctor, I'll be back after I've tried this fix15:21
dr_willisi wonder if its not an on join script15:22
ActionParsnipquixotedon: if you run: hcitool dev    do you see a bluetooth device15:22
quixotedonMonkeyDust: is it blueman or bluemon?15:22
BluesKajthey must know by now that it's not15:22
MonkeyDustquixotedon  blueman, for manager15:22
dr_williswe need a file bot to share ubuntu isosss with them15:22
ActionParsnipdr_willis: that'd be cool15:23
quixotedonMonkeyDust: the package is only bluemon found15:23
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  there are a few million italians15:23
MonkeyDust!info blueman > quixotedon15:23
BluesKajMonkeyDust, but how many use freenode or eben irc15:23
BluesKajeven15:24
saviohey i have port 53 open means i'm running named is it necessary for desktop user can i stop named service15:24
MonkeyDustwhat's port 53 again?15:24
tommy28ciciciao15:24
DJones!it | tommy2815:25
ubottutommy28: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:25
twitchieDNS/bind15:25
tommy28ok grazie15:25
ActionParsnipport 53/UDP is DNS15:25
savioActionParsnip, port 53/tcp is also dns but use for zone transfer ?15:26
savioam i  right?15:26
ActionParsnipsavio: makes sense15:26
MonkeyDusthttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers15:26
savioActionParsnip, i think named service is not useful for desktop users can stop the service is ok?15:27
quixotedonMonkeyDust: is bluemon the same with blueman? it's nowhere around15:27
dr_willisnamed service is bind? and its not installed by default i thought15:28
quixotedonMonkeyDust: ah, thanks it's in synaptic not through terminal anyway15:28
MonkeyDustquixotedon  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?15:28
MonkeyDustok15:28
quixotedonyou wanna know?15:29
saviowhat is dnsmasq on port 5315:29
dr_willis!info dnsmasq15:29
ubottudnsmasq (source: dnsmasq): Small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.59-4 (precise), package size 15 kB, installed size 117 kB15:29
Umo Hey guys, my network interface is regognized a boot and seems to be running but it wont work until I run ifdown and ifup again. Any suggestions?15:30
quixotedonMonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS15:30
dr_willisi thhought dnsmasq was default installed on 12.0415:30
saviois it necessary?15:30
silenihey guys15:30
saviodr_willis, yeah it is15:30
dr_willissavio:  id leave it alone.15:31
sileniI seem to have lengthy boot up times now on ubuntu 12.05. I used to use ubuntu sometime ago (11.10 ish i think) and the bootup time was around 2-3 minutes then15:31
silenido you guys know of any major changes that is causing this for users?15:31
silenidmesg doesn't seem to show anything fishy15:31
saviodr_willis, i thinking to filter that port15:31
dr_willissavio:  i never noticed it being open to the network. just to localhost15:32
saviodr_willis, ok15:32
dr_willissavio:  so you m ay be worried about nothing15:32
dr_willisi could be wrong. ;) try nmaping the machine from another on the lan15:33
ActionParsnipdr_willis: it is :)15:33
saviodr_willis, from virtual machine will do this?15:33
dr_willisvm's can be set up in different ways.    so no idea15:34
dr_willissavio:  seems its not really an security issue.and it makes looookups quicker15:35
dr_willissilly keybord15:35
saviofew days ago my download folder from home is got deleted and i don't know how i'm only user15:35
silenisomething is seriously wrong...I can't go to unity's dashboard search and type "terminal" it used to bring up the gnome-terminal15:35
silenibut now it can't find it15:35
saviosileni, wait for few min then try15:36
silenisavio: i don't understand why I need to wait15:36
saviosileni, sometimes it takes time to load15:36
silenisavio: It just says there is nothing to match my search15:36
sliddjurmy laptop with ubuntu 12.04 is making a very low clicking sound and seems to turn of and on the sound (the mute button is blinking on and off). this only occurs when i am not playing any sound. this is a HP compaq 6910p and I think the sound codec is a AD1981HD ?15:37
saviosileni, i just suggest you no big deal15:37
dr_willisblinking mute led.. weird15:38
silenisavio: what?15:38
dr_williswonder if the mute button is mute/unmuteing and stuck15:38
saviosileni, nothing15:38
silenisavio: I didn't meant to come off as aggressive. I just don't think waiting is solving the problem15:38
dr_willissileni:  see if it works for a new user.. see if any searches work?15:39
saviosileni, sometimes it does on my machine15:39
hectorthewellendhello15:42
_google_360_baidhello15:42
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_google_360_baid有人吗15:44
aniasisIf I set the DISPLAY on a shell to the IP of my desktop and run an X windows application it should show on my desktop correct?15:44
bazhang!cn | _google_360_baid15:44
ubottu_google_360_baid: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw15:44
dr_willisaniasis:  you may need to use 'xhost +' also15:44
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dr_willisaniasis:  and thers may be other security things depending on the connection15:45
dr_willisssh's x forwarding makes  it easier15:46
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sambagirlwhat java are you supposed to install?16:00
sambagirlhow can you identify your ver from shell?16:01
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sambagirlwhat command do you enter to learn the version your running from a shell?>16:02
InsaneGenehey guys, Does any one know how to use (install and configure ) openvpn ?16:02
jordanmjava -version16:02
CrimethinkerNope.16:02
jordanmInsaneGene: apt-get install openvpn16:02
BluesKajsambagirl, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras unless you're a java dev then you'll need tot do some reserearch16:02
sambagirlok16:02
sambagirlthanks16:03
InsaneGenejordanm, I did that but what next ?16:03
sambagirlchrome is becoming messy in my mind...thanks16:03
compdocInsaneGene, openvpn is all about getting the config files right on the server and on the client16:03
MonkeyDusthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN16:03
CrimethinkerCan anyone help me with my Nvidia problem?16:03
InsaneGenecompdoc, where can i get the config file ?16:03
compdocInsaneGene, you can google up many examples, but its all a matter of testing16:04
jordanmInsaneGene: you write it, i believe there is an example included in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/16:04
CrimethinkerSuppose not...16:05
bazhangCrimethinker, ask the channel16:05
CrimethinkerEr, um, how? Sorry, I'm relatively new to IRC.16:05
bazhangCrimethinker, just ask16:06
CrimethinkerCan anyone help with my16:06
CrimethinkerNvidia problem?16:06
bazhang!details | Crimethinker16:06
ubottuCrimethinker: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:06
* Crimethinker facepalms16:07
CrimethinkerI derped.16:07
CrimethinkerWell, when I started up the live version of Xubuntu 12.04 LTS, OpenGL worked fine. When I installed it, however, it just gives me some vague GLX error.16:08
bobweaverhello there what screen caster's do you all use, gtk no workie and neither does kazzam  I have installed some other's but they are also not working. any tips16:08
InsaneGenejordan, compdoc , I don't have my own server, a friend of mine uses openvpn for windows and it has a interface and connect to vpn server I guess that it owned by Openvpn.org people, can I do something smiler in ubuntu?16:08
bazhangbobweaver, what others16:08
CrimethinkerMy drivers are installed and everything.16:08
bobweaverbazhang,  record it now16:09
compdocInsaneGene, i use a free firewall with openvpn built in, but sure, openvn runs on anything16:09
MonkeyDust!screencast > bobweaver16:09
ubottubobweaver, please see my private message16:09
vdf_987eciao16:09
MonkeyDustlist?16:10
derpsonhi16:10
InsaneGenecompdoc, so I what i need now is a configuration file, where can i get that from?16:10
ewaters64hello16:10
CrimethinkerHi.16:10
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bobweaverIstanbul dont work , also xvidacap is not in the ubuntu ppa anymore16:10
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bobweaver!info xvidacap16:10
ubottuPackage xvidacap does not exist in precise16:10
derpsoni'm getting my new x230 tomorrow, would you advise me to wait for 12.10 or get the beta release? is it possible to just update it on october 18th?16:11
FiberMancan anyone here help with a fairly fecked ubntu server not booting.16:11
Guest60113Hey, is anyone here descent enough at the arm architecture to assist me with a quick make compiling error?16:11
CrimethinkerI'll try.16:11
criminullis 'alien' a package manager, or just a file converter?16:11
FiberManits filesystem is screwed.  it lost its iscsi connection to the san16:11
MonkeyDustcriminull  the latter16:11
FiberManrecovery mode doesnt boot16:11
bobweavercriminull,  I thought that it was like rpm too deb ?16:12
FiberMancomplains about missing inode16:12
FiberManthen kernel panic16:12
bazhanghttp://blog.sudobits.com/2012/07/17/eidete-a-screencasting-application-that-really-works-on-ubuntu-12-04/  bobweaver16:12
CrimethinkerGuest60113?16:12
bobweaver!info alien16:12
ubottualien (source: alien): convert and install rpm and other packages. In component main, is optional. Version 8.86 (precise), package size 57 kB, installed size 208 kB16:12
criminullI thought so MonkeyDust, just curious, thanks16:12
bobweaverthanks bazhang16:12
sambagirlwill 32bit apps run in 64bit environment?16:12
FiberMani dont get to a command line to run fsck16:12
Guest60113for the most part yes sambagirl16:13
sambagirlok thanks16:13
ikoniaalien is something that should not be used16:13
MonkeyDustsambagirl  you may need ia32-libs, it's part of something else16:13
Guest60113anyone know if there is a raspi channel?16:13
BanzounetHi i just edited my /etc/network/interface file :  "http://pastebin.com/PLRqGqVP" but it's not  working :s May someone help me :( ?16:13
CrimethinkerGuest60113, your question about an arm make error?16:14
Guest60113yes16:14
MonkeyDustGuest60113  you mean raspberry pi?16:14
Guest60113yeah16:14
Guest60113I found a nice tutorial teaching little bits and pieces of the assembly for it and the compiler shot back the code saying no input files16:14
Guest60113im so new to assembly i have no clue how to fix16:14
MonkeyDustGuest60113  there's #raspberrypi, some 325 people there (unofficial channel)16:15
Guest60113MonkeyDust thankyou so much lol16:15
watermarkMy install has been hung at "cleaning up" for a while, but there is tons of disk activity.  Does it do a disk check or something during cleanup?16:15
CrimethinkerI don't really suggest Assembly for anything, but if you must, then I'll need the source code you tried to make.16:15
sambagirlGuest60113 you can always get an old ibm mini computer and practice your assembly on that :D16:16
scarleoSomeone else tried the latest NVIDIA driver with Unity? My Launcher won't reveal when it's in autohide mode16:16
Crimethinker:)16:16
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CrimethinkerMy Nvidia card has problems, too.16:16
CrimethinkerI'm not really sure.16:16
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CrimethinkerI've tried Unity, KDE, and Xfce, but they all act strange with Nvidia.16:17
scarleoI didn't have a problem with 304.43 but 304.53  broke it :(16:17
Guest60113lol i have a couple of older pc's to practice it on but they do not support the new linux kernel and i have to find distros that still update repositories with 2.316:17
Guest60113or 2.6 i mean16:17
CrimethinkerNow, then,  my Nvidia problem that I asked about quite a while back?16:18
Guest60113dude if you think they act weird with nvidia then try AMD, so much less support for those GUI's16:18
sambagirlASM = UGH :D16:18
sambagirlA,1221 MOV B,212116:18
sambagirl:D16:18
TJ-Guest60113: what are the errors? Do you have them pastebin-ned?16:19
sdap3000ciao a tutti16:19
sdap3000!list16:19
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CrimethinkerI would love AMD, but I'm stuck with my incompatible-with-anything Acer laptop :(.16:19
Guest60113sambagirl lol i need to learn badly xD and TJ i will get them in pastebin in a sec16:19
TJ-!it | sdap300016:19
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CrimethinkerI'll be leaving, now.16:20
vdf_987eciao16:22
vdf_987e!list16:22
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Guest60113TJ http://pastebin.com/fx5EVEPX16:23
Guest60113TJ- TJ-16:23
Guest60113TJ- Ive never used make before so idk what success looks like yet16:24
TJ-Guest60113: that's a simple one! You've not got the cross-compiler tools (correctly) installed. make is trying to call the linker and can't find it16:25
watermarkfound my answer, bug already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgsel/+bug/104188116:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1041881 in pkgsel (Ubuntu) "Reinstalling a large server (without formatting) appears to hang during 'Cleaning up' due to updatedb.mlocate" [Low,Triaged]16:25
Guest60113TJ- Oh ok so the GNU toolchain i downloaded before have to go somewhere specific?16:25
TJ-Guest60113: Are you cross-compiling an ARM kernel on an Intel/AMD PC?16:26
AClicKBonsoir16:26
BluesKaj, stuff to do for a while , BBL16:26
Guest60113yes16:26
TJ-Guest60113: OK, I wrote an article on that some time ago. It may help you. http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Kernel/ARMCrossCompileOnIntel16:27
Guest60113TJ- Yes but i plan on putting all of the make imgs on rasppi sd card16:27
Guest60113Thankyou TJ!16:27
jiffe98can ubuntu mount / off an lvm partition?  I'm going through the setup and it won't let me make it bootable16:30
jpdsjiffe98: Yes, it can.16:31
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TJ-jiffe98: Yes. You need to install the "lvm2" package using the terminal before entering the disk partitioner steps of the installer16:31
_google_360_baid管理员你看的懂中文吗(adimer are you understand what i mean? hehe ~~~)16:32
Guest95948hi all16:32
TJ-jiffe1: And, once the installer has completed, you need to mount the /target/ system and install "lvm2" using a chroot so the drivers and tools are installed in the initial ramdisk16:33
bazhang_google_360_baid, english  here only16:33
Guest95948when openstack is added on ubuntu repo for folsom16:33
baizonhi, any advices. I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and my indicator-messages entry is gone. What's the best way to fix that?16:33
bazhangbaizon, #ubuntu+1 for 12.1016:34
baizonthx16:34
TJ-baizon: #ubuntu+1 ... FYI several people have reported that today16:34
baizonok16:34
MunchorHi there, what GTK/Gnome version will come with 12.10?16:35
bazhang!info openstackx | Guest9594816:35
ubottuGuest95948: openstackx (source: openstackx): Client library extenstions for Openstack API. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2+git20120120-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 43 kB, installed size 299 kB16:35
baizonMunchor: 3.616:35
Munchorthanks baizon, that is neat16:35
Guest60113TJ-16:36
Guest60113TJ- I took the template folder where i was trying to create the make file and copied it to the GNU tools location... different error now16:37
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Guest60113command not found error 12716:38
puddleguys can someone suggest a good alternative to gdesklets/screenlets which is actually being developed and works?16:38
theplanethow do i check my ext4 hard drives for damages and inconsistencies?16:38
zykotick9!fsck | theplanet16:39
ubottutheplanet: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot16:39
TJ-Guest60113: That was the same error-code you were getting earlier16:39
heritialeave16:39
Guest60113shoot. ok well i will continue reading your article lol TJ-16:40
vartotojasHello, i need some help with my graphics.. I have ubuntu 12.04, and id like to play some online game like "runescape".. When i log in into the game, my screen goes black and appears msg like "loading" video. in some seconds this msg dissapears and screen stays black.16:41
InsaneGenedoes anyone know an anonymity http proxy tool other than tor because tor uses https and I need to be able to configure other applications to connect through that proxy tool16:41
bazhangvartotojas, is runescape via wine16:41
vartotojasDunno whats the problem might be about16:41
vartotojasyea16:41
puddleanyone using razer diamondback 3g with ubuntu and managed to set up the sidebuttons perhaps?16:42
bazhangvartotojas, check the appdb and then /join #winehq16:42
bazhang!appdb | vartotojas16:42
ubottuvartotojas: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:42
bazhangInsaneGene, apt-cache search term    in the terminal and check16:43
vartotojasbazhang: and if im not using wine?16:43
bazhangvartotojas, what game16:44
jorickmy keyboard is stuck in caps lock, because i used some kind of setxkbmp... i have to press shift all the time. is there a command to turn caps lock on or off? or a place in /proc where i can do it?16:44
vartotojasrunescaoe16:44
vartotojasrunescape**16:44
bazhangvartotojas, it has a linux client?16:44
vartotojasyea16:44
bazhangvartotojas, I dont see it in the ubuntu repos16:45
zykotick9vartotojas: what graphics card are you using?  "lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal if unsure.16:45
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vartotojas01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]16:45
vartotojasvartotojas@vartotojas-Aspire-5738:~$16:45
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vartotojasbazhang: on runescape website there are linux client16:47
InsaneGenebazhang, a lot of choices when searching term "proxy" , any suggestion ?16:48
joricknvmd i have it fixed with some more setxkbmap16:48
commePeuBonsoir16:50
zykotick9!fr | commePeu16:50
ubottucommePeu: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:50
commePeuà tout le monde16:50
commePeuahhhhhhhh16:50
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commePeuok16:50
commePeuI change the channele16:51
battlehands_ActionParsnip: how do I move a file again?16:51
battlehands_err16:51
battlehands_NM16:51
battlehands_How do I open a matlab file via terminal16:51
OerHeksbattlehands  open matlab, then open the file16:53
battlehands_OerHeks: huehuheuheueh16:54
commePeuBonsoir16:55
ActionParsnip!fr16:55
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:55
theplanetbattlehands_, mv file location16:55
k4r1mis there any to install the quantal evolution package on precise ?16:55
theplanetit's fun with linux!16:55
OerHeksk4r1m, no, do not use quantal packages on precise.16:56
k4r1mOerHeks, I want evolution 3.6 :(16:56
adoet_tis there update unity 6 for 12.04 ?16:56
k4r1mOerHeks, would it be safe to compile from source?16:57
OerHeksk4r1m, compiling is always safe.16:58
MonkeyDustk4r1m  don't mix ubuntu versions16:58
Kapsashi, has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206193016:59
platypusfriendGreets16:59
k4r1mrequires JHBuild.. screw it.16:59
platypusfriendI think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?17:00
OerHeksKapsas,  AHCI is the only right setting17:00
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Kapsasbut it does not work17:00
johnskyHey all.17:00
platypusfriendAnyone have DHCP experience?17:01
platypusfriendI think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?17:01
genii-aroundKapsas: A pastebin with the results of: sudo lshw     might show us what the hardware is, from there it may be to load a driver for it, or perhaps something else17:01
OerHeksKapsas, gparted should be able to handle 2 Tb drives, try it with the small one only.17:01
KapsasI have tried with 40 Gb only, no success17:02
johnskyI have an irritating issue with HDMI. It flashes black every time audio is combined.17:02
platypusfriendAnyone... MAAS expertise?17:03
platypusfriendI think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?17:03
merlin2049erhey, i'm looking to get a revo 3 x2 drive for my pc17:03
bazhang!repeat | platypusfriend17:03
ubottuplatypusfriend: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:03
merlin2049erbut, I'm not sure if it's supported by ubuntu?17:03
bazhangmerlin2049er, ##hardware17:03
merlin2049erthanks17:03
merlin2049erunity and chrome have been crashing on me lately... is there a problem with them?17:05
johnskyEvery time audio starts (whether it's a system sound or music, or anything) it seems the HDMI output has to be re-combined and re-syncd.17:05
rp2my chrome crashes on WIndows 717:06
zykotick9merlin2049er: chrome or chromium?17:06
merlin2049erchromium17:06
bazhangrp2 how is that an ubuntu issue17:06
johnskyI'm looking for a way to keep the audio active, like playing dead air on loop from startup.17:06
rp2it's not - but it might be relevant17:07
bazhangrp2, no need to mention it here17:07
robertohi all I installed 12.0.4 Pangolin and added two users. Now, there's a 10-15 sec wait on lightdm-initiated X login and logout. I tailed Xorg.0.log and syslog, and can't see any Warnings, errors or otherwise suspicious.  Where else could I look?17:08
rp2Im trying to figure out whether Samba can be ataught to just use /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow for its users and passwords - no luck yet17:08
joan Hi, this is really unbelievable, I had a nasty bug concerning CUPS 1.5.3 in kubuntu 12.04, that caused the following output in the error log:17:09
joan"failed to CreateProfile: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id NAME_OF_THE_PRINTER"17:09
joan Well, I tried installing VirtualBox with W$ XP on that kubuntu 12.04 and setup the printer, with success.17:09
ActionParsniprp2: why not use its own database as usual?17:10
joan But the weird thing is that after that, printing through cups in linux has been fixed automagically. I can't understand anything... This is weirdness itself17:10
vartotojas_can someone help me? im trying to use this command : sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin.   but i get this msg " Reading package lists... Done17:10
vartotojas_Building dependency tree17:10
vartotojas_Reading state information... Done17:10
vartotojas_E: Unable to locate package sun-java6-plugin17:10
vartotojas_" How i can download it?17:10
FloodBot1vartotojas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:10
robertojoan, so now it works?17:10
ActionParsnipvartotojas_: do you want oracle java 1.7?17:10
bazhang!java | vartotojas_ have a read17:10
ubottuvartotojas_ have a read: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.17:10
joanyes, that's the most irritating thing, roberto17:10
ActionParsnipvartotojas_: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html17:10
joanand I discovered it purely by chance, roberto17:11
vartotojas_ActionParsnip:  oh ty17:11
robertohehe normally in windows the irritating thing is it DOESNT work. Cool that in linux it irritates you that it DOES work :)17:11
Kapsashi, has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW17:11
daniel__Hello @all17:12
joanroberto, it works at the price of having to print first a page in W$ through virtualbox, shame on CUPS. These guys behave in a way that I cannot understand17:12
mikebotHi, is it possible to create a bootable usb drive (for windows) on a mac computer?17:12
genii-aroundKapsas: As I stated earlier, if you boot to the usb and then pastebin the result of: sudo lshw       ..there might be some information we can use to help you.17:12
bazhangmikebot, whats the connection to ubuntu support17:13
genii-aroundKapsas: Ah, I see it is updated, good.17:13
ActionParsnipjoan: you culd bridge the network of virtualbox, then print to cups directly that way (like a new physical system on the LAN)17:13
mikebotbazhang: sorry?17:13
daniel__Rice with Ketchup  <3 Yummy17:13
bazhang!ot | daniel__17:13
ubottudaniel__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:13
robertojoan, yes that isn't good. When do you have to print the first page from windows? After each reboot? After every printer restart?17:13
joanor perhaps is the ubuntu team to blame? that is, why don't they wait to have something that really works and is fully tested in a LTS distro?17:14
joanroberto, after each reboot17:14
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joanthen it works in linux every time, until next reboot...17:14
robertojoan, could you try visiting http://localhost:631/ after a reboot?17:15
mikebotHi, is it possible to create a bootable usb drive (for windows) on a mac computer?17:15
robertoThat's directly into the CUPS interface17:15
bazhangmikebot, this is ubuntu support17:15
robertoMaybe you could get some hints.17:15
mikebotbazhang: Yes, I want to create a ubuntu bootable usb17:15
mikebotbazhang: that will work on my pc.  but i can only create it on a mac17:15
bazhangmikebot, you state (for windows)17:16
mikebotbazhang: pc, sorry17:16
joanI've checked all the logs, roberto, and the problem is that when you print in linux (without the W$ trick) you get some errors like the one I posted before17:16
bazhangmikebot, perhaps unetbootin.sourceforge.net17:16
johnskyI have an irritating issue with HDMI. It flashes black every time audio is combined.17:17
johnskyEvery time audio starts (whether it's a system sound or music, or anything) it seems the HDMI output has to be re-combined and re-syncd.17:17
bazhangmikebot, pendrivelinux.com is another area to investigate17:17
joanthere are some people having issues like mine, nearly identical, with cups 1.5.3, the first ones a t least from April or May!!!17:17
mikebotbazhang: Thanks17:17
johnskyI'm looking for a way to keep the audio active, like playing dead air on loop from startup.17:17
hyliancan I run the android os somehow inside windows without using the very dated live cd for android produced in 2009?17:17
hylianinside ubuntu 12.04, notr windows17:18
joanroberto, but it seems there is no real solution to this real nasty bug17:18
robertojoan, sorry I joined recently an17:18
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robertohmm what was that17:18
KapsasHas anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW. Please reply in forum if possible17:18
genii-aroundKapsas: If you do: sudo modprobe sata_nv       and then check the output of: dmesg| tail        does it show anything?17:18
robertonow, joan is your printer a Samsung ML? Using generic drivers, or manufacturer's?17:18
johnskyI've stated my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062709 regarding the HDMI audio recombining and resyncing issue.17:20
joanroberto, is a HP LaserJet 1018, which uses driver foo2zjs17:20
joanroberto, I get the error posted above and also this one:  Failed to update TXT record for PRINTER_NAME17:21
bobweaverbazhang, Thanks again for the tip on the video-caster. works alright won't pull in audio and cuts the screen cast in half but it kinda works.17:22
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joanroberto, it seems these issues affect several printer brands: HP, Samsung, Canon, Brother17:23
joanroberto, for example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205404817:23
caydeesofthey17:24
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bizhanMonaHI all, according to this URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035445.html  Ubuntu is planning to not to use GRUB 2 for UEFI secure boot. Is this still standing? Thx17:25
robertojoan, hmm TXT record usually has something to do with DNS.17:25
KapsasHas anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW, and modprobe sata_nv17:25
robertoare you using DNS or BIND for name resolution? (have a look in /etc/resolv.cof)17:26
robertoif it doesn't say something about "bind" that might be part of the problem17:26
joanthanx, roberto, but I'm actually on another box. The affected systems are the ones my wife uses at her job, (which BTW makes this bug even nastier, because there they really NEED printing)17:29
KapsasHas anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW, and modprobe sata_nv17:30
joanroberto, anyway, how can I learn more about that? an ordinary resolv.conf uses to contain nameserver n.n.n.n  lines, doesn't it?17:31
robertojoan, forgot to ask: is this a network printer or USB?17:32
rp2look in /etc/nsswitch.conf too17:32
joanroberto, USB17:33
robertojoan, OK. did you see http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 and downloaded the firmware to the printer after each printer restart17:33
joanno, roberto, let's have a look. thanx17:34
robertojoan could be you need superduperuser rights to do that17:34
robertothat firmware download looks very much like a "win"modem issue... Hardware with no default brains.17:35
joanyeah, this is what I told my wife17:35
joanthey keep buying crappish hardware which is always making trouble17:36
joanbut she works in a non-profit organization and they always have a very short budget17:37
robertoYep. It's a shame there aren't many stores selling only 100% compliant gear, like Apple tries to do.17:37
robertoBut the spirit of linux guys generally is "lets show the guys it can be done anyway"17:37
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joanyeah, roberto. that's one of the things I like most about this17:39
robertoif that firmware download works, you could write a script containing the firmware loading command. Then you install udev and set up a rule for your printer that will run that script upon printer connect. see http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-printer17:39
joanBTW, shame on me for not having checked the openprinting website. This is the first thing I should have done...17:40
robertoI've used that with my VERY old viceo scanner (no drivers beyond win98 available)...17:40
BluesKajoh no not another "gear" aficionado ...used to have put up with "gear" in the audio chats , not here too :)17:40
robertoBluesKaj, I'll use "stuff" then17:40
robertoor HW ;)?17:40
BluesKajroberto, ..use it if youwant ..was kidding of course17:41
johnskyI've stated my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062709 regarding the HDMI audio recombining and resyncing issue.17:42
johnskyIf anyone has experience with HDMI audio issues causing re-sync17:43
johnskyor even if you remember hearing something once...17:44
BluesKajjohnsky, I don't use "sounds" on my pc but I do loop the hdmi audio back from the tv to the audio receiver digital input , however i haven't encountered any sync issues ...probly doesn't answer your question tho17:46
TJ-bizhanMona: Ubuntu will be using GRUB2 with Secure-Boot.17:47
johnskyThats cool, thanks anyways Blues, you never know when someone will accidentally remember something useful.17:47
OHIKhello17:48
johnskyUltimately I'm thinking that if I keep the audio output active by playing a never ending loop of dead air at startup, this might solve the issue. But what would be the least intrusive and most efficient way to do this?17:48
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lotuspsychjeis it possible to xkill a program automatic when it freezes?17:49
lotuspsychje!xkill > lotuspsychje17:49
johnskyDon't kill yourself over it.17:49
msmith0957I have a problem with my touch pad.. it randomly stops working, and only way I can fix it is to restart, any idea ?17:49
johnskyI don't know about that, but in the mean time, try logging out and back in rather than rebooting,.17:50
johnskyIt will save you time17:50
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msmith0957ok, so, a log out does not return my touchpad to normal, reboot is the only thing that fixes it17:53
msmith0957should i have a syndaemon process runing ?17:55
goddardIs there a way to block private messages in thunderbird irc chat?17:55
lotuspsychjegoddard: use the ignore command irc17:55
bazhanggoddard, what about /mode nick +R17:56
lotuspsychjeis it possible to xkill a program automatic after it freezes?17:57
goddardoh that will prevent them17:57
corewillemhello can i install ubuntu without grub ?17:57
goddardi get spam emails some times17:58
goddardand spam irc messages17:58
JordiGHIf I have two packages with the same "version" but in different repositories, how can I tell apt-get from which repo I want to download?17:59
johnskyYes msmith0957, you should have syndaemon running.17:59
JordiGHThey're both in the precise-main section.17:59
swJordiGH: -t17:59
msmith0957johnsky: So, at the moment, I don't, but it is currently working. Am I using a nonstandard driver/daemon atm ?18:00
corewillemanyone ?18:00
corewillemhello can i install ubuntu without grub ?18:00
msmith0957by working, it hasnt frozen yet18:00
lotuspsychje!patience | corewillem18:00
ubottucorewillem: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:00
JordiGHsw: Oh, right, thanks.18:00
johnskyNot sure. Someone else might know msmith095718:00
lotuspsychje!grub2 | corewillem18:00
ubottucorewillem: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)18:00
lotuspsychjecorewillem:wich bootloader you wanna use as alternative to grub2?18:02
corewillemgrub2 :p18:03
PaSsIi want to learn computer language and want to learn to create small softwares and m totally new..........please point me the direction.........18:03
corewillembut i don't want to mess up my arch + windows 8 dualboot18:03
lotuspsychjecorewillem:what excactly you wanna try?18:03
fachexHello all!18:03
fachexI need your help guys or I can loose my job! :-$18:04
bizhanMonaTJ: thanks18:04
fachexI have a weird problem18:04
lotuspsychje!ask | fachex18:04
ubottufachex: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:04
corewillem:p18:05
corewillemlotuspsychje i want to add ubuntu myself in my arch installed grub18:05
fachexI have Ubuntu 12.04 as a file server on a Raid 1 500 GB. There is a VMW machine with Win2008 Server.  The \home folder is in another partition with 430 GB...it says that the \home is full,  100% which is technically impossible18:06
fachexthe VMWare folder is only 15GB18:06
fachexI just removed 12GB and it still says that is full..18:07
bekksfachex: Please provide the exact error message and all mentioned data like "ls -lha" of all that folders, not just a transcript please :)18:07
lotuspsychjecorewillem: not sure, did you try to install with ubuntu livecd?18:07
corewillemnope18:08
lotuspsychjecorewillem:ubuntu got Os options maybe it will install it next to arch without touching grub18:08
fachexbekks, I don't get it..I am checking the disk Usage analyzer18:09
bekksfachex: Well, then provide the outputs of ls -lha please18:09
MonkeyDustfachex  type df -h|pastebinit and paste the url here18:09
fachexok18:10
lotuspsychjecorewillem: maybe this can help http://richardfearn.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/chainloading-from-one-grub-to-another/18:10
corewillem2 grub installs ?18:11
fachexthis is the ls -lha http://pastebin.com/kF0caRsW18:12
fachexthis is teh df -h http://pastebin.com/fTX16F2g18:13
fachexthe /media/Factory... and /media/HP is an external drive.18:14
uzumaxyHello all!18:14
fachexso, 98% on the home?????18:14
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fachexno way!18:14
fachexthen, looking at the Disk Usage Analyzer the biggest folder is VMWare with only 15GB18:15
bekksForget that disk analyzer ;)18:16
fachexok18:16
lotuspsychjefachex:would surprise me that df lies18:16
bekksWhats the output of: du -h --max-depth=1 /media/HP18:16
fachexdon't worry about the /media18:16
fachexthat's an external drive I am using to move stuff out of \home18:17
lotuspsychjefachex:whats the use of the server plz?18:17
bekksOK, then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home please18:17
fachexfile server18:17
fachexlotuspsychje, file server18:17
fachexbut files are small pdf files18:17
fachexand I just installed this server last week18:18
fachexit is impossible that it would be filled op.18:18
fachexup18:18
lotuspsychjefachex:maybe try rootkithunter, you never know..18:18
bekkslotuspsychje: Nope :)18:18
fachexlotuspsychje, I am afraid of something like that or the raid might be failing18:19
bekksEven without rkhunter you will see the space used.18:19
awestrokeI know this is NOT the correct channel to ask this question, but I accidentally removed the windows restore partition on my netbook, and now I want to restore it to sell it. What should I do? I still got a valid cdkey18:19
bekksfachex: A failing RAID will not use more space.18:19
awestrokeI just installed ubuntu over everything18:19
lotuspsychjebekks:even its hidden dirs?18:19
bekkslotuspsychje: Sure.18:19
ThinkT510awestroke: /join ##windows18:19
bekksls -lha show you all hidden dirs.18:19
awestrokeThinkT510: thank you!18:19
fachexbekks, I know but it might not be using the right partition ...I don't know18:19
bekksfachex: then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home please18:20
fachexI just noticed that I do have an error on the radi18:20
fachexraid18:20
lotuspsychjeis it possible to xkill a program automatic after it freezes?18:20
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  alt f2, xkill18:21
PaSsIin ccsm i m disabling a particular command which is <alt>button 3..........it turns itself on again and again...........18:22
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: im looking for something automatic, cause whole desktop freezes cause this prog18:22
fachexbekks, lotuspsychje, this is the du -h --max http://pastebin.com/c8xP5vsV18:22
fachexpermission denied even with sudo..18:23
bekksfachex: 373G    /home/administrator18:23
fachexI know18:23
facheximpossible18:23
bekksdu never lies :)18:23
bekksfachex: then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home/administrator please18:23
fachexhow do I find the file, folder that has all that data???\18:23
fachexI can't find it18:23
fachexok18:23
fachexhere is the du -h --max for the administrator folder http://pastebin.com/5QdyCaGb18:25
fachexbekks, it does not add up...18:26
fachexunless for line #3018:26
llutzfachex: du -xh /home/administrator18:26
fachexbut I don't have anything there18:27
fachexllutz, ok18:27
llutzfachex: are you sure theres nothing mounted on ~/.gvfs?18:27
kennethelo everyone i have a 8gb usb and would like to install ubuntu as a user account but also to be able to carry on a iso image to inatll on friends comuter when needed is thia possible?18:27
fachexllutz, I was not even aware of the folder18:27
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jribfachex: if something is still using those 12 GB you deleted, then df will reflect that18:28
fachexjrib, that's ok, but I still have 370GB left...supposedly18:29
fachexllutz, this is the dh -xh http://pastebin.com/kgkF4jrq18:30
fachexllutz, see the last line..18:31
fachexthere is something there..18:31
fachexI just don't see it18:31
fachexbut it  has to be some kind of error, there is no way so much data in a week18:31
llutzfachex: did you by any chance kill any process which still writes into a removed file?18:32
TJ-fachex: Interesting! I've just discovered the same issue on 12.04 after 'rsync' from another 12.04 host ! I've been trying to figure it out here, too!18:33
fachexllutz, I did not kill anything or anybody :)18:34
fachexbut I will..18:34
fachexTJ- did you find out anything?18:35
fachexwhat would happen if I tear down the Radi array?18:36
fachexI am desperate, this people cannot do anything and they are waiting on me.18:36
TJ-fachex: Yeah. There are 4 sub-directories that were rsynced that all seem to point/contain exactly 1.4GB when on the source host they are 272MB18:37
goddardanyone know how to install the gnome application overall menu ?18:38
goddardi tried installing the ppa and it gives me an error18:38
fachexllutz, bekks, jrib, any hint on what could that be?18:39
ActionParsnipgoddard: like the old school menu system>18:41
TJ-fachex: Is the file-system LVM18:42
allohakping18:43
bekksfachex: Where's the output of du -h --max-depth=1 /home/administrator - did I miss it?18:43
fachexbekks, yes you did18:43
fachexI pasted it18:44
brightsparksHi. I'm having problems with VLC. I can't resize the VLC window it's fully filling my screen each time I use it and I don't know how to reduce it's size.18:44
bekksfachex: So would you mind to share that link again?18:44
fachexTJ- well, is a raid 1 volumen18:44
user_aaaaaaaaaaaaa18:44
Hapzso i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program18:44
allohakQuestion about sound (alsa/pulseaudio)18:44
Hapzhow the hell do i remove that stupid feature18:44
Hapzi want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them18:44
fachexbekks, http://pastebin.com/5QdyCaGb18:45
TJ-fachex: I'm seeing looped paths here, ext4, amd64, 3.2.0-31-generic18:45
fachexTJ- with three partition18:45
bekksfachex: then provide ls -lha /home/administrator please18:45
fachexbekks, http://pastebin.com/sN5m4K3K18:46
goddardActionParsnip: let me see if i can find the link for what i am talking about18:47
fachexTJ- , what do you mean?18:47
bekks-rw-------  1 administrator administrator 357G Sep 25 13:30 .xsession-errors.old18:47
bekksThere is your wasted space.18:47
jribbekks: haha, wow18:47
fachexbekks, where?18:47
bekksfachex: line 4818:47
fachexlet's see18:47
tweetergalwoaj18:48
fachexbekks, should I go ahead and delete that18:48
robertojoan sorry I was away did you get that printer up working again?18:48
fachex?18:48
tweetergalwhy are there so many ubuntu users?18:48
tweetergalis ubuntu an OS?18:48
bekksfachex: Yes.18:48
TJ-fachex: Have you done an offline fsck?18:48
robertotweetergal, define OS18:48
agrestringeregot a question, does Ubuntu Web Apps work with Xubuntu?18:49
tweetergaloperating system ??18:49
agrestringereXubuntu 12.04 LTS18:49
tweetergalis ubuntu part of linux?18:49
ThinkT510tweetergal: linux is the kernel18:49
ThinkT510!ubuntu | tweetergal18:50
ubottutweetergal: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:50
goddardActionParsnip: I found the link18:50
goddardhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html18:50
Jamey_Cool easy18:50
robertotweetergal, think of the different "linux OS" as different collections of programs, all based on linux.18:50
allohakanyone want to help debug an audio problem?18:50
Jamey_i lle be back18:50
spoljoroberto: you mean gnu18:50
robertospoljo, Gnu/Linux18:50
Jamey_whats news here ?18:51
spoljoroberto: yes but linux is just kernel , userspace is gnu18:51
tweetergalso why do people use linux?18:51
roberto"gnu's not unix/linux" to be exact18:51
spoljotweetergal: why do people use windows ?18:51
robertotweetergal, I use it because it's stable18:51
robertoand safe18:51
goddardcause its awesome like me tweetergal18:51
robertoWe could use the salesman's question, too: "Why don't you use linux?"18:51
Jamey_i use linux y o trop easy18:52
fachexbekks, you did it!!!!!!18:52
tweetergalthats weird, windows got everything setup, pretty gui.. few clicks you can get what you want.18:52
ThinkT510tweetergal: i use it because i value my freedom, by the way this is a support channel18:52
fachexOMG, what was that??????18:52
tweetergali don't understand why people use linux18:52
fachexwhy in the world?18:52
DAudioLinkQuick question: If my problem is in setting up/configuring lm sensors/fan speeds do I need to ask elsewhere?18:52
goddardtweetergal: haha18:52
goddardtweetergal: so does Ubuntu18:53
robertotweetergal, you can also get what you want with a few clicks in linux. With no clicks, actually.18:53
agrestringereQuestion about Xubuntu 12.04, do those new Ubuntu "Web Apps" integrate with XFCE? I really want to integrate things like Gmail and Google Calendar into them without using an annoying email client...18:53
goddardtweetergal: what do you use your computer for?18:53
goddardwatching cat videos on youtube or work?18:53
ThinkT510agrestringere: web apps are used with a browser aren't they?18:54
Jamey_roberto i syntetise my mind18:54
tweetergaleverything18:54
robertoJamey_, what for? Your current isn't good enough?18:54
goddardtweetergal: i dont know what everything is18:54
ThinkT510tweetergal: do you want to give ubuntu a go? take a livecd for a spin or try it in a vm18:54
ThinkT510tweetergal: at the end of the day its up to you what you want to use18:55
Jamey_my friend is death18:55
tweetergalYa, my friend shown me. he put unbuntu into an CD and able to boot it into OS enviroment.18:55
tweetergalpretty amazing18:55
fachexbekks, now even a bigger problem, VMWare does not open the machine...dang18:56
Jamey_a girl !!!18:56
robertotweetergal, real-world (my) example: Someone brings in a computer from another office to our office. We use 802.1X based ethernet authentication. That was a serious show-stopper for the poor guy. IT was called, machine had to be sent in, etc. On linux I just checked "use 802.1x" and input user/pwd. less hassle18:56
fachexthat file must have been related to it.18:56
bekksfachex: ...and the exact, complete error message is...?18:57
Jamey_she s is  dead18:57
Jamey_snif18:57
ThinkT510!ot | Jamey_18:57
ubottuJamey_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:57
robertotweetergal, you can also use the CD image to create a bootable USB stick, much faster and all.18:57
Jamey_i dont like this but this sad18:57
DAudioLinkI have an Intel DG33TL mobo and a Q6600 Core2Duo CPU, I want to set the CPU fan to try and keep the CPU below 60C. I can't get lmsensors to register the CPU sensors as anything other than coretemp, and pwmconfig doesn't show anything configurable.18:57
tweetergalwoah18:58
goddardtweetergal: windows is good but Ubuntu is a lot nicer but you gotta figure out the right way to do stuff its not the same as windows but actualy having an Ubuntu machine is less hassle because you have no viruses and you also dont get a bunch of pop ups about updates18:58
tweetergalso many IT experts here18:58
DAudioLinkAny ideas for setting up throtling/fan control to keep the CPU temp in check?18:58
ThinkT510tweetergal: its a support channel, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic18:58
Jamey_luther season three ???18:59
agrestringeretweetergal: it's about knowing what your software is doing. Windows and Mac can be spying on you and it's not a joke.  Internet Explorer is suspected to record all your activities online and feed it to Bing.com for building their search results.  With Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source you never have that problem because the activity of the programs you use are known to the community...18:59
Jamey_i like the actor18:59
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.18:59
DJonesJamey_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Please remember this is a support channel for Ubuntu18:59
robertotweetergal, if you want to try out ubuntu without removing windows entirely, you can run it in a window inside windows :) Google "virtualbox"18:59
ThinkT510Jamey_: stop it18:59
Jamey_luther season three ???19:00
Jamey_i like the actor19:00
robertoagrestringere, well if you use google as your search engine...19:00
robertoban Jamey_ ?19:00
Jamey_thas is the question19:00
DJonesJamey_: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu19:00
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goddardluther is a good show19:00
Jamey_goddors  yo lokike this monkey19:01
Jamey_hum19:01
Jamey_lol19:01
DJonesJamey_: If yo want general chat, please use #ubuntu-offto[ic19:01
goddardwhat haha?19:01
farranglol19:01
ThinkT510goddard: don't encourage him19:01
msangitweetergal: from my perspective, i just installed ubuntu recently, i have not rebooted into windows since19:02
katjaever since I upgraded to 11.10 my pc freezes up all the time19:02
katjaanyone else having that problem19:02
katja2gb of ram19:02
msangiwhat windows can do, ubuntu can do at least as good, but better19:02
robertokatja, well I always had trouble after upgrading. Prefer clean installs.19:02
tweetergalLOL19:02
katjanever happened with the older version19:02
tweetergalliar19:02
katjai could try that roberto19:02
moustafakatja, 11.10 was a decent release, but 12.04 is overall better19:03
moustafakatja, Try that one instead19:03
katjaokay19:03
robertoI usually get a usb drive, rsync -arv /home/* /media/<usbdrive>/ and then do a clean install.19:03
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.19:03
boldfilterWhat's the irc for Cinnamon?19:03
MonkeyDustkatja  for a start, type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove     <---paste that in a terminal19:03
tweetergalbut is application base on windows compatible with ubuntu?19:03
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msangii wanted to ask, the default modem manager, does it use ppp or wvdial to connect?19:04
robertotweetergal, check out http://winehq.org19:04
MonkeyDustkatja  what moustafa says is even better19:04
ThinkT510!equivalent | tweetergal19:04
ubottutweetergal: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot19:04
ThinkT510tweetergal: it is better to use native alternatives19:04
katjaokay I didnt realize there is a newer version19:04
robertokatja, for example TeamViewer use the windows binaries in their OFFICIAL "linux" packages. It's just a linux package with windows binaries inside...19:05
ThinkT510tweetergal: if you need something very specific then wine could work19:05
ThinkT510!appdb | tweetergal19:05
ubottutweetergal: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help19:05
joanroberto, thanx for that really good tutorial on udev rules19:05
robertohi again joan did that firmware download work?19:06
robertoYou can du very interesting things with udev. Turn on lights in your house when you plugin the Mouse usb receiver... you name it19:06
joanI can't test it until tomorrow (I'm in Valencia, Europe), I'll tell you19:06
joanyeah, :)19:06
robertook sleep tight.19:07
farrangfuck u roberto u pedo19:07
cm1nushi i need help with darwin19:07
katjasorry roberto I am working so kinda missed what you meant about teamviewer19:07
cm1nusthere is no apt-get19:07
ThinkT510cm1nus: this is just for ubuntu support19:07
cm1nusisnt darwin ubuntu19:08
MonkeyDustcm1nus  wrong channel19:08
rcmaehlI need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit19:08
cm1nusdamn19:08
farrangwrong chan cm1nus fuck off!19:08
ThinkT510cm1nus: no, darwin is essentially the base of osx19:08
cm1nusis there a darwin cham19:08
OerHeks!attitude | farrang19:08
ubottufarrang: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines19:08
joanroberto, It's always very encouraging to find really useful info, well written. Thank you very much. One problem with linux is that there is a lot of info in the net but the good one is hard to find.19:09
MonkeyDustcm1nus  try #puredarwin19:09
cm1nushey who is tht pissed off anally raped dog19:09
goddard?19:10
goddardrelax kid19:10
rcmaehlBad troll was bad19:10
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farrangsex19:10
mteleshacan we have a kick on farrang?19:11
* rcmaehl applauds DJones for his excellent troll handling.19:11
IdleOneNo need to comment on removal/kicks. back to support.19:11
goddardhaha so can anyone help me figure out why this ppa doesn't wana work http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html19:12
robertojoan, thanks but I didn't write that :D19:12
allohakIf noone answers your original posted question after a few minutes, is it appropriate to repost it?19:12
rcmaehlOk...19:12
goddardya19:12
rcmaehlI need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT19:12
joanyeah, but you pointed at it, roberto. ;)19:13
tweetergaldoes ubuntu has something like registry ??19:13
goddardtweetergal: no19:13
goddardtweetergal: Ubuntu uses config files19:13
rcmaehlRegistry ~= ~/.config/19:13
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.19:13
grandal_primehey19:16
grandal_primeIve set up ntp on me new server.  i can query the servers ..my time is still hours off19:17
grandal_primeand yes i removed ntpdate19:17
grandal_primeis there a way to force a resync with ntpq ?19:17
zykotick9grandal_prime: check your timezone is correct19:17
robertotweetergal, you could have a look at gconf-editor19:17
robertosudo apt-get install ~19:17
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.19:17
robertograndal_prime, does cat /var/log/messages |grep ntp say anything like successfully adjusted, offset so and so much?19:18
goddardallohak: have you tried #ubuntu-server ?19:18
wilee-nileegoddard, Is the app showing in the extensions in the advanced settings app installed as gnome-tweak19:18
grandal_primetz american los angles19:18
allohakgoddard: Yes, I have posted there as well19:19
vitimitibye19:20
rcmaehlI need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT.19:21
goddardwilee-nilee: not that i can see19:21
msangii asked earlier whether the modem manager for 12.04 used ppp or wvdial for connecting. the reason is that there are times when i am connected but i can't access the internet. have an ip and gateway, but dns lookup seems not to be working. is it a problem from my end or the providers? i appreciate any help.19:21
grandal_primeya roberto  nothing in there.19:22
grandal_primeroberto,  i mean nothing in the messages log, nothing in demon or syslog19:22
grandal_primenothing about ntp anyway19:22
robertograndal_prime, is it EXACTLY a few hours off, or hours+minutes?19:22
AlanBellmsangi: if you are connected through something that network manager doesn't know about then you can have problems with things like firefox automatically going to offline mode19:22
goddardwilee-nilee: it doesn't even install when i do an apt-get install19:22
wilee-nileegoddard, That web page says nov 2011 that be old stuff laddy, there is a a menu available I would get a newer page on it, I'm not sure really.19:23
goddardwilee-nilee: complains about some gnome-extensions-commons issue and says it cannot install19:23
msangiAlanBell: its working right now, as i am connected, but an hour or so ago it died and could not connect to any site.19:23
goddardwilee-nilee: yeah im guessing the same19:23
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.19:23
goddardwilee-nilee: figured it would be more popular19:23
AlanBellallohak: you could possibly install ubuntu-desktop, which might sort out the missing bits, but will drag in a heap of other stuff you might not want19:24
grandal_primeTue Sep 25 12:23:01 PDT 2012  is one that is correct... machine that is behind is...Tue Sep 25 12:52:15 PDT 201219:24
grandal_primeand that werid i was several hours off a min ago19:24
grandal_primedoes it do this slowly19:24
robertograndal_prime, if it's way off it will jump as far as I remember. If it's just a little, ntp will adjust little by little. Could be I'm wrong.19:24
grandal_primesorry i was looking at the wrong box..the one that is off is...Tue Sep 25 13:53:13 PDT 201219:25
grimetonbekks: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5004219:25
grandal_primeya so its like an hour + some19:25
robertook, minutes or seconds?19:25
robertoanyway, can you use wireshark to look at the packets coming and going?19:25
wilee-nileegoddard, there is a app that is a main menu setup that works I don't use it but have looked at it it is called application menu exstension19:25
robertoyou can filter for "ntp" to avoid seeing all that other traffic.19:25
wilee-nileeextension*19:26
grandal_primemy firewall is set to allow related back in and the box can get out. i get server information back19:26
goddardwilee-nilee: yeah that is a nice exstension but this one is a little different19:27
goddardwilee-nilee: it replaces the actual application menu kind of like Unity19:28
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wilee-nileegoddard, Yeah I use synapse to search in gnome 3 and have cairo dock installed for the regulars.19:29
FlipShawrcmaehl: If you still need help, I was wondering what your xorg.conf file looked like19:29
goddardwilee-nilee: with Gnome Shell have you tried the Bolt extension?19:29
wilee-nileegoddard, I haven't n o.19:29
robertograndal_prime, sorry if this has been asked already: do you use ntp time server or ntpdate as a command?19:30
rcmaehlFlipShaw: I can't really pastebin it but I can type it out to you in pm unless there's an irssi command to send it to you19:30
goddardwilee-nilee: its similar to the dash actually looks better in my opinion19:30
grandal_primentp time19:30
robertothe ntpdate command?19:30
FlipShawrcmaehl: pm is fine19:30
grandal_primeno19:30
grandal_primejust ntp.19:30
grandal_primentpdate is uninistalled.19:30
robertook. I've always used ntpdate as a one-shot to set the time staight. Now, did you try setting a specific time server in the configs? Could be some bad time server maybe, causing time to be wildly off once in a while?19:31
grandal_primeive noticed on most machines if both are installed ntpdate interfere with tnp19:32
grandal_primentp that is19:32
wilee-nileegoddard, I don't use unity, did for about a year but switched to the shell, not sure if the dash is part of the shell, to be honest my computer is just a tool for writing papers in a masters program and surfing the web I don't really spend much time customizing it, I don't really have the time.19:32
rcmaehlFlipShaw: hold on about 10 minutes, #linux is looking at my Xorg log file19:33
goddardwilee-nilee: i do a lot of programming and work on open source projects so i get to mess with stuff like this19:33
grandal_primeim using    the server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org19:33
greenithow can i list the currently used graphics driver in the console?19:34
grandal_prime0 - 319:34
goddardwilee-nilee: i like the speed and lightness of gnome shell but some of the features of unity19:34
wilee-nileegoddard, well we pseudo geeks love that you and others do the hard work. ;)19:34
FlipShawrcmaehl: That's fine, I'll be here, but I doubt I know alot more than any other guys :)19:34
nsudoany application to read apple partition on ubuntu 12.0419:34
mercanoПривет19:34
wilee-nilee!ru | mercano19:34
ubottumercano: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:34
genii-aroundnsudo: Yes, hfsutils19:34
genii-aroundnsudo: Additionally you might want hfsplus package19:35
goddardwilee-nilee: its fun plus there are cool geek parties all the time19:35
grandal_primeya this sucks...it says.. Universal Time is now:  Tue Sep 25 21:03:50 UTC 2012.19:35
wilee-nileegoddard, Had I not gotten a open source setup on my first computer at a used recycler I would probably never have found it lol, I use it primarily, ts what I learned to use.19:36
wilee-nileeit's*19:36
grandal_primeand im prettty sure that is not right19:36
nsudogenii-around; in synaptic19:37
JuanopsyAny spanish speaker? that can help me with some ubuntu random crashes?19:37
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: you can get stuck into the work too19:37
EnderTheThirdanyone else here use one of the cheapo Korean 2560x1440 monitors from eBay?  Ubuntu is having a heck of a time with this monitor/resolution.19:37
gordonjcp!es | Juanopsy19:37
ubottuJuanopsy: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:37
wilee-nileeJuanopsy, The channel is english but there is a spanish channel for ubuntu.19:37
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: file bugs19:37
Juanopsythanks19:37
JuanopsyI would apresiate english help anyway...19:38
wilee-nileegordonjcp, I do what is needed I have been using open source for about 5 years I have run every major linux distro minus gentoo, I'm far from a noob.19:38
robertograndal_prime, what happens if you run ntpq and the pe command? See any scary results?19:38
genii-aroundnsudo: Yes, hfsplus and hfsutils packages from synaptic or apt-get or Software Center or however you normally install packages in your Ubuntu19:39
allohakI am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.19:39
grandal_primeroberto -e ?19:40
wilee-nileegordonjcp, I have not actually had a bug that was not already reported as well.19:41
grandal_primeillegal option for -pe19:41
grandal_primeit doesnt like the e19:41
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: even if you confirm bugs or give good examples of how to trigger them19:41
SebastiaHi @ all! my name is Sebastian Tischer and I am student at the university of technology in Dresden and need to talk to some developers or employes within the company/foundation...19:41
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: simply saying "there's a bug" isn't actually that helpful19:41
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: what's *really* helpful is if people can find bugs in the bug tracker and see if they work19:41
gordonjcp"yeah, I get that too"19:41
grandal_primeim listening on port 123 thats correct right?19:42
wilee-nileegordonjcp, I will agree to disagree here, I'm not a CSM I have other interests I'm not bound by any moral sense but to follow the studies I am doing right now, not a forced you should do this from anthers personal reality. ;)19:43
SebastiaI need to get some basic company questions answered for my bachelor thesis which discusses open source software companies...19:43
wilee-nileegordonjcp, I have over 12000 posts on the UF helping under 3 different nicks, separately of course, who knows how many here I have helped the community.19:44
grandal_primei dont see anything on that port19:44
xanguaSebastia: you know this is a Comunitty suport channel right¿19:44
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: see?  You *are* contributing ;-)19:44
MonkeyDustSebastia  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic19:45
Sebastiayeah but I wasn't sure where to start! can you recommend one?19:45
Sebastiaah thank you! I will try there!19:45
alusionIs there a way to setup a preview column with ubuntus default file explorer?19:45
MonkeyDustSebastia  a friend of mine has written an academic paper about open source, some years ago19:45
wilee-nileegordonjcp, YES that is why I am offended slightly when others say you should do this when I have done a lot already under the guise that works for me.19:45
wilee-nilee;)19:46
Sebastia@MonkeyDust: Thank you! I already wrote an email to the press team but got no answer yet19:46
wilee-nileeany on to W7 to write papers19:46
AdvocatedHi there, i'm doing an rsync on a server, ive just looked at it remotely and its showing as 3 occurences of it running(via ps aux | grep rsync)  is that normal?19:48
FlipShawAdvocated: Do they all look exactly the same or is there any destinguealbe difference19:49
maysaraHi, anyone know how to activate hibernation?19:50
AdvocatedFlipShaw, all look exactly the same :s19:50
MonkeyDustmaysara  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/enable-hibernation-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/19:50
chemaher76Good because my problem is out the following: I have an HP ProBook 4510s and several times I installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. I usually play a game called Spiral Knights that can be played perfectly on Linux, but nose if it's CPU or GPU but soon overheats and the laptop is turned off, only happens in Linux in Windows does not happen to unless you take many hours of play. A friend told me that Linux uses more CPU for Windows games that19:51
chemaher76is based more on graphics and can pull that's the problem. Perhaps with an energy saving program or something could fix the problem, a greeting.19:51
maysaraMonkeyDust, thx a lot19:51
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nsudo cant delete on hfs partition on ububtu19:52
Sazpaimon_is 2.6.32 EOL yet?19:52
AdvocatedFlipShaw, whats that mean then?19:53
GanharbHey guys... im about 3 days into the ubuntu experience lol doing all the wine stuff so i can play wow and ive decided i miss windows... atleast as far as playing wow goes.. now i no longer have windows on my pc and i was wondering if theres a very small version of windows i can put on a partition for wow only ... is there a term for this? because i dont even know what to google.19:53
ThinkT510Sazpaimon_: what are you running that on?19:53
vvpalinnsudo, smash said harddrive with hammer = deleted hfs partition19:53
MonkeyDustGanharb  better ask in ##windows19:53
FlipShawAdvocated: Can you show me the output for the processes19:53
Advocatedyeah, sec19:53
nsudovvpalin u are not helping19:54
Sazpaimon_ThinkT510, nothing now, just wondering19:54
gordonjcpnsudo: hfs support is a bit spotty19:54
ThinkT510Sazpaimon_: lucid supports it19:54
nsudogordonjcp i am able to read though19:54
AdvocatedFlipShaw, http://pastebin.com/vLexEPbg19:54
Sazpaimon_last release of 2.6.32 was .59 which was a few months ago, just curious if that was probably the last release19:55
gordonjcpnsudo: yup19:55
robertograndal_prime, no ntpq <enter>19:55
MonkeyDustSazpaimon_  of what program exactly?19:55
robertothen pe19:55
gordonjcpnsudo: the filesystem may be mounted read-only19:55
Sazpaimon_MonkeyDust, kernel19:55
MonkeyDustoh19:55
gordonjcpnsudo: my HFS+ partition is borked at the moment and will *only* mount read-only19:55
nsudogordonjcp how to make it the other way19:55
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FlipShawAdvocated: This doesn't look right, I believe those are all copies19:56
MonkeyDust3.2.0-31 here19:56
nsudogordonjcp cool19:56
AdvocatedFlipShaw, yeah i;m thinking so too, i might kill them all and start them from here. I have a query though. i started that rsync at work, im cancelling it from home and will start it again from home, will it be slower?19:57
guntbertroberto: for reference: ntpq -p   will do the same  :)19:57
ThinkT510Sazpaimon_: 10.04 uses 2.6.32 so its supported until 10.04 is eol19:57
FlipShawAdvocated: It should not be noticably slower.  But refer to this article quickly, I've used it to my benefit many times http://sun3.org/archives/28019:59
robertograndal_prime,  guntbert, thanks. Have to go, hope someone can help out.20:00
grandal_primeroberto.  yes there is ntpq20:00
grandal_prime e does nothing20:00
maysaraIs there a way to move the bar on the left to bottom?20:00
AdvocatedFlipShaw, thanks ill look. you know for bwlimit=whatever  how do i know what I can use as a max?20:00
ThinkT510maysara: not supported20:00
grandal_primeby the way i just realized the hardware time was correct.20:00
grandal_primethe system time wasnt though20:00
grandal_primewerid20:00
caydeesoftubuntu 12.04 has bugs lyk several....20:01
sayersAnyone from Cyprus ?20:02
sw!cy20:02
swaparently not20:02
xxSnIp3rxxcaydeesoft: yep.. namely the wireless drivers20:02
guntbertgrandal_prime: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html ?20:03
FlipShawAdvocated: You could check the man page, but let me see what I get on mine really quick20:03
FlipShawAdvocated:It looks like it is only limited by your network settings, its in Kilobytes per second20:04
AdvocatedFlipShaw, so if i don't specify anything, its not going to kill my server is it?20:05
MonkeyDustsayers  turkish or greek?20:05
genii-aroundsayers: Depending on language could use perhaps !tr or !gr20:05
sayersgreek of course20:06
MonkeyDust!gr20:06
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes20:06
sayersI was looking for local people not greek/cypriot channels, m820:06
grandal_primeguntbert, yes that is what im following to set this up20:06
grandal_primei also get to those servers and get data back from them20:07
grandal_primethe time straigt up just does not set right20:07
ThinkT510sayers: you are more likely to find them there20:07
grandal_prime13:05:20.624324 IP 10.10.0.10.123 > 173.193.227.67.123: NTPv4, Client, length 4820:07
sayers:)20:07
guntbertgrn20:07
grandal_prime13:05:20.713619 IP 173.193.227.67.123 > 10.10.0.10.123: NTPv4, Server, length 4820:07
grandal_primethats the return traffic20:07
genii-aroundsayers: #ubuntu-cy does exist, it's for the LoCo team for Cyprus.20:07
grandal_primethe request goes out..comes back..box does nothing with it20:08
grandal_primeits werd20:08
guntbertgrandal_prime: I suggest you stop your ntpd for a moment, then use ntpdate to jump to the correct time and then restart ntpd20:08
FlipShawAdvocated: No, but if you are worried about it, just pass the command with --bwlimit={how ever much bandwith you can afford to give to it}20:08
sayersloco team ? i'm not quiet sure that football team exist in our league20:08
AdvocatedFlipShaw, i need to rsync 200gb, it was at 500kb but it wasnt doing a lot very fast lol, but i dont wanna set it too much20:09
grandal_primeif i install ntpdate, ntp will not work20:09
guntbert!who | grandal_prime20:09
ubottugrandal_prime: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:09
guntbertgrandal_prime: no, it is the other way round: you cannot use ntpdate while ntpd is running20:10
KM0201grandal_prime: did you update the ntpd.conf?20:10
grandal_primeKM0201, yes20:10
FlipShawAdvocated: For me to make a good decision I need to know what both Internet connection speeds run at and what the speed of both networks is; but if you don't want to type all that, just try 256, that's not alot for todays netoworks20:10
KM0201hmm20:10
KM0201grandal_prime: pastebin the contents of ntp.conf20:11
grandal_primentp service is off20:11
FlipShawAdvocated: Sorry, I mean 12820:11
grandal_prime ntpdate[13083]: no servers can be used, exiting20:11
guntbertgrandal_prime: listen to KM020120:12
AdvocatedFlipShaw, 128KB?20:12
FlipShawAdvocated: That's what I would do with my network specs, that's why it is hard to give you a good estimate, alot of variables; but yest.  Just pass rsync saying --bwlimit=12820:13
AdvocatedFlipShaw, but 128kbps surely for 200GB is going to take weeks?20:13
FlipShawAdvocated: My mistake, very sorry.  You're best bet is to just leave it default, default is no limit20:15
bekksAdvocated: 151 days ;)20:15
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Advocatedbekks, lol, how can i work it out, ie 200gb / whatever kbps = how many hours? or what kinda speed would I need to run it at to do it in say 8 hours?20:17
FlipShawAdvocated: It would be 6.5 MBytes per second20:18
Advocatedahh, i should be able todo that no problem I think20:18
FlipShawAdvocated:Sorry, no, its 7.1mbyte per sec20:19
sayersI purchased earlier today (around 6:00 pm) wired router TP-Link R402M and I just plug the ether rj45 cable and everything is running normally. Is it normal that in linux to plug some device without the necessary(rity) to install/compile the drivers ?20:19
AdvocatedFlipShaw, how u calculating that?20:19
bekksAdvocated: 200GB = 200*1024*1024 MB = 200*(1024^4) Byte = 8*200*(1024^4) Bit ...20:19
grandal_primeguntbert, i pointed it to a diff ntp server20:19
bekksAdvocated: And 128 kBps = 128*1024 Bit per second.20:19
BluesKajsayers, ethernet is mostly plug and play on ubuntu  now unless you have some exotic router20:21
guntbertgrandal_prime: what happens now? please !pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf20:21
sayersSounds that I could throw the CD drivers ... sweet ! Thanks dude :)20:21
BluesKajsayers, keep in case you install wndows on a another partition or pc20:22
guntbertgrandal_prime: and while you are at it please pastebin the output of ntpq -p as well20:23
FlipShawAdvocated: I just divided the total data needed to copy by the amount of hours you wanted to copy it, divided by minutes than by seconds20:23
Advocatedahh oh yeah, my brain isnt working, tired++ but thanks for the help FlipShaw, bekks20:23
FlipShawAdvocated: I did it all in bytes too, so I might have gotten messed up, but it should be fine! :) Math can be one of my fallys20:24
JuanoPsyplease some help, My ubuntu 12.04 LTS is crashing randomly every 10 minutes or so, mostly whith firefox, or when runing 3 or more softwares at the same time, or when heavy loaded like, facebook, banshee, inkscape, something else at the same time, but also if I run only "some" movies it crashes... the crash is always the same, full freeze, mouse, keyboard, screen, and the last bit of sound repeating in a infinite loop... my system p20:24
sayersOkay , great tip .20:24
boldfilter1JuanoPsy: Sucks bro20:25
JuanoPsySystem specs are: Intel® Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (says x2 but is only one), 32-bit, 937,2 MiB Ram, Graphics Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV37020:25
JuanoPsyboldfilterl: what you mean ?20:26
ejoJuanoPsy: First suspects might be memory, video driver, power supply...20:28
genii-aroundYes, 1G of ram is pretty slim. Might be hitting a bad area on the swap partition or some other similar issue.20:29
BluesKajJuanoPsy,, not a lot of memory there20:29
harovalihi, I'm in gnome , using evolution, and it asks me for the keyring password to unlock it, and I forgot which password goes there, I have root access to the machine, how can I change the keyring password?20:30
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JuanoPsyejo, but if is memory, how do I fix it?20:30
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: Should probably run memtest from the boot-up screen to see if it is your memory20:30
JuanoPsyI know is not much memory..20:31
JuanoPsyok, mem test20:31
NiteRainHaving a issue with php curl not working over https20:31
NiteRainshould I just compile it from source?20:32
niksSsSssssssShello everyone20:33
* niksSsSssssssS Does anyone knows how can i fix wicd (connect-disconnecting) on bt5? 20:33
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: If your ram ends up with no errors after memtest runs,  I suggest to unmount your swap partition and run badblocks  on it to see if it's physically going.20:33
bergelmiri just removed 'gnome-games' which uninstalled 'gnome-desktop-environment' but now apt wants to uninstall hundrets of packages too...20:34
MonkeyDustniksSsSssssssS  type /join #backtrack-linux, it is not supported here20:34
niksSsSssssssSoh ok MonkeyDust  ty20:34
JuanoPsygenii-around: sorry, what you mean by unmount my swap partition?20:35
bergelmiri don't know if it is okay to uninstall all these packages. some of them sounds like i still need them.20:35
BluesKajbergelmir, don't remove them . you'can't remove some apps with uninstalling the whole desktop20:37
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: When programs run out of physical ram that your computer has, it starts to use disk space as if it is more ram. The disk space is called swap. Most times people have a separate partition for this. If you type: grep swap /etc/fstab   it should tell you what partition it is using for that.20:37
BluesKajbergelmir, are you using software center od apt ?20:38
BluesKajor20:38
BluesKajapt-get20:38
bergelmirBluesKaj: apt-get20:38
devishi run dual boot and i need to install windows again but this will leave the grub broken....how can i recover my ubuntu /grub after fresh window install?20:39
JuanoPsygenii-around: man thx... I'll try that...20:39
BluesKajbergelmir, answer no , if it's asking if you want to remove those packages20:39
bergelmiryeah, everything is fine again, but isn't there a way to uninstall or hide the games!?20:40
JuanoPsygenii-around: It returns "/host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none            swap    loop,sw         0       0"20:41
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: First you do: sudo swapoff -a     Then you run the badblocks program on it to see if it's physically failing. If it is, you have to find another place to use for swap. You can put swap back on by: sudo swapon -a20:41
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: So in this case you are using a file for swap and not a partition20:42
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: You are using Wubi ?20:42
JuanoPsyyes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi20:43
BluesKajbergelmir, now install the gnome-desktop-environment , because if you don't, on the next boot you won't have a desktop20:43
adwaitndhave to install the android SDK on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit for a system located behng an authenticated http proxy. SDK manager always fails to load packages to install.20:44
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JuanoPsygenii-around: yes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi20:45
bergelmirBluesKaj: everthing is fine again :)20:46
BluesKajbergelmir, did you reboot ?20:46
bergelmirBluesKaj: nope20:46
bustacapDoes anyone know if I can save the fan speed for my nvidia gpu so it applies itself on boot?20:47
BluesKajbergelmir, hope you installed the desktop like I suggested20:47
bergelmirBluesKaj: yep ;)20:48
BluesKajbergelmir, good :)20:48
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: Unfortunately I am not very familiar with Wubi. But my first suspicion here is that you don't have enough ram.20:48
bergelmirBluesKaj: apt-get is not mentioning any packages20:48
adwaitndbustacap: if you installed the nvidia drivers, there should be an option in the nvidia X-server settings to define fan speeds. Once set in there, its stored.20:49
escapeplanI need help with getting my fluidsynthplugin to work in Tuxguitar !20:49
BluesKajbergelmir, the commands aren't entirely finished until the next reboot , sort of like windows update20:49
bustacapadwaitnd, It's not saved on boot, everything besides fan speed stays.20:50
oratedHello! I've two sound cards listed after issuing cat /proc/asound/cards -- one on-board, other USB audio. How can I make USB audio as default card from command line?20:50
bustacapadwaitnd, each boot I need to re-click I agree on their warning about adjusting fan speeds lol.20:50
JuanoPsygenii-around:  shure, thanks anyway... I'm tring to learn how to do the badblock test... and I'll see...20:50
anomalyI do not need text to speech, like festival.  I just want basic voice recognition so I could like "open terminal".   anything out there worthwhile?  I can not seem to get much info on julius or simon.20:51
adwaitndbustacap: how about starting x server settings using sudo?20:51
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: I'm not sure if badblocks will work on a file.20:51
BluesKajorated, have you set them up in phonon yet ?20:52
oratedBluesKaj: Hey, no I'm not sure how to do that20:53
JuanoPsygenii-around: Ohhh....20:53
JuanoPsygenii-around:  May be if I install the ubuntu on the computer fixes the problem?20:55
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: You might want to run the chdsk C: /f      on your main drive from inside Window's command prompt to make sure your ntfs is OK.20:55
bergelmirdamn, how to stop a script that is starting itself?20:56
bergelmircan't kill them fast enough :(20:56
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black_joeWhat is the name of the script bergelmir?20:56
MonkeyDustbergelmir  open a new terminal window, pkill the script name20:57
bergelmir20575  0.0  0.0  17984  1384 ?        S    22:57   0:00 /bin/bash /home/jan/Games/ftlgame/FTL20:57
genii-aroundJuanoPsy: It is possible. Might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_migrate_to_a_real_partition.2C_and.2BAC8-or_get_rid_of_Windows_entirely.3F   if you want to move the wubi install to a real partition. Because you have so little ram, it's probably best to dual-boot and not run Ubuntu from inside of Windows20:57
MonkeyDustbergelmir  kill 2057520:57
bergelmiri am currently trying to kill the all with: ps aux | grep -v grep | grep FTL | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs kill -920:57
bergelmirMonkeyDust: there are hundrets and i can't kill them fast enough :D20:58
_0x783czarHey, for some reason, everytime I try and replace the /etc/sudoers file with my own, it breaks sudo.  I've kept the right permissions and everthing but I just breaks everytime.20:58
* genii-around sips and ponders the bergelmir forkbomb20:58
bergelmirwhile killing some of them, others are already spawning new processes20:58
JuanoPsygenii-around: Yeahh.. shure... but I think I have dual boot...20:58
usr13_0x783czar: Why not just edit it with visudo ?20:59
bergelmirgenii-around: hmm :D21:00
_0x783czarusr13: I'm doing server automation accross a large number of servers.  So that's out of the question21:00
genii-aroundbergelmir: What does the process belong to or do? If it has some entry in /etc/init  or /etc/init.d you could try stopping it that way with sudo stop <name> or sudo /etc/init.d/<name> stop21:00
_0x783czarusr13: however, if I do use visudo everything works fine21:00
usr13_0x783czar: I see.21:00
bergelmirgenii-around: is there a way to break out of this infinite loop without restarting my computer?21:01
usr13_0x783czar: but I do not see how it could be that much harder.21:02
genii-aroundbergelmir: Without knowing exacty what's causing it to start, hard to know what to kill/stop21:02
_0x783czarusr13: how would I use visudo do do it in a script?21:02
genii-aroundbergelmir: What's the processes full name?21:02
usr13_0x783czar: You wouldn't.21:02
MonkeyDustbergelmir  or killall ftl*21:03
_0x783czarusr13: are you suggesting manually editing visudo on every machine?21:03
bergelmir$0 $021:03
genii-aroundMonkeyDust: He's grepping for FTL but that might not be the full name21:04
usr13_0x783czar: You mean sudoers.  But clearly, your method requires reconsideration/repair.21:04
auronandacefaster than light grep, now that i gotta see21:04
bergelmiryeah, got them all killed :)21:05
_0x783czarusr13: in what way?  This method works on other distros, so I'm wondering what would be causing my problem on ubuntu.21:05
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EvilAngeldoes linux support ssd trim out of the box?21:08
_0x783czarusr13: do you have any suggestions?  because I can't manually edit sudoers through visudo on every machine.21:08
dr_willisEvilAngel: i think most distros do these dats21:09
dr_willisdays21:09
m0nsterhello ...im looking for some help21:09
_0x783czarm0nster: in what way?21:10
m0nsteri installed ubuntu using wubi... and my keyboard and mouse wouldnt work when i booted into it21:10
m0nsterim in the process of downloading ubuntu desktop iso...21:10
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m0nsterwas gonna try to install the kubuntu... but it couldnt do it in wubi... saw some where on google saying to try to install kde insstead21:11
MonkeyDustwubi :(21:11
m0nsterbut i also want to install ubuntu alongside my windows 721:11
m0nsterand not lose ANYTHING21:11
MonkeyDustm0nster  that's the correct way21:11
dr_willisthe wubi installer should have download the iso.21:12
BluesKaj!dualboot | m0nster21:12
ubottum0nster: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot21:12
MonkeyDustm0nster  if you have a partition large enough to install ubuntu21:12
m0nsteri do... 500gb21:13
bergelmirthank you guys! need some sleep now ;)21:13
woot-0854what is a irc channel for music?21:13
kydanhey guys, Im trying to get a bit of help with a bash script I am modifying. I am getting the following errors for some BC stuff that is being run. (standard_in) 2: syntax error (standard_in) 1: syntax error. http://pastebin.com/xvgR8xEX for the code that I believe is in question.21:13
MonkeyDustm0nster  nice, tip: create a separate /home partition21:13
MonkeyDustwoot-0854  type /msg alis list *music*21:14
kydanI am not super familiar with bash scripting so I really have no idea whats up, especially since another section of it that runs for another var seems to be working fine.21:14
myersghow do I block Mumble from a router?21:14
kydanmyersg: you want to prevent mumble from being used on a network?21:15
m0nsterthing is im a lameman when it comes to anything partitioning21:15
myersgyes21:15
m0nsterthats why i liked wubi21:15
kydanmyersg: clients from using it I assume.21:15
myersgso do you know how?21:16
woot-0854thanks MonkeyDust21:16
m0nsterTraceback (most recent call last):21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 58, in run21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 132, in select_task21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 158, in run_installer21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\tasklist.py", line 197, in __call__21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 595, in get_iso21:16
m0nster  File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 406, in download_iso21:16
FloodBot1m0nster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:16
kydanmyersg: well, Im not quite sure that its possible with consumer hardware21:17
myersghmm...21:17
luistwhere do i get libquazip.so.1 for ubuntu??21:17
woot-0854MonkeyDust, I seem to have failed at doing that any meta I miss?21:17
myersgI have a dlink router setup..21:17
kydanmyersg: if you know the IP's of the mumble server you could do that21:19
myersgof the mumble server that they use?21:19
MonkeyDustwoot-0854  about 40 music channel, type /msg alis list *music*21:19
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kydanmyersg: yes21:19
genii-aroundluist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libquazip.so.1&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any Package search for that file does not show it existing in any package from official repositories.21:19
myersghow do I find that out?21:20
rtcgI've been trying various steps suggested on many a google search but I'm still unable to get 10.04 to see my Intell 1e20 sound card.    aplay -l  returns only "no soundcards found..."21:22
rtcgcan someone suggest the proper approach to get this working on 10.04?21:23
MonkeyDustrtcg  consider upgrading to 12.0421:23
rtcgNot an option in this case.21:23
rtcgcustom app requires this version of ubuntu.21:23
rtcgor rather.   Programmers/support staff require this version of ubuntu.21:23
gordonjcprtcg: looks like you'd need a newer kernel21:25
gordonjcprtcg: which isn't going to happen in an LTS21:25
rtcgIs it a kernel driver that is missing?   or is it that modprobe isn't finding the driver?21:25
zykotick9rtcg: lucid was based off debian squeeze.  you could also try searching online if anyone has your intel sound card model (and it isn't 1e20) working in current debian stable (aka squeeze)21:26
gordonjcpwell modprobe would find it if it was there21:26
myersghow do I do it with the Ip?21:26
jribrtcg: well, there are some backported kernels in the repositories... see if they make a difference21:26
gordonjcprtcg: do they actually need the sound card?21:26
rtcgI asked twice.   They do in fact need the sound driver to make the computer send an audible alarm.21:27
gordonjcprtcg: then go on eBay and buy a cheap USB sound adaptor21:27
jribrtcg: use the pc speaker21:27
gordonjcprtcg: seriously, how much is your time worth?21:27
jribrtcg: more seriously, see if the linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric kernel makes a difference21:27
rtcgKernel driver, backported kernels,  squeeze....  I'll make some quick searches there.21:27
gordonjcprtcg: you could also tell them not to be so bloody ridiculous and update their systems21:28
rtcgI'll weigh my time against the cost of multiple usb sound cards.21:28
rtcgI agree gordonjcp !!  Someone needs to get on the ball and update their software (which probably doesn't need updating)21:28
rtcgJust support the upgraded version...sheesh!21:28
gordonjcprtcg: try it and see21:28
kydanmyersg: well, I am assuming you dont know who is using mumble, so if you know their IP you could use wireshark to sniff the traffic on their IP and see where they are connecting and figure out what the IP is from that.21:29
gordonjcpwhat *is* this magic custom software, anyway?21:29
kydanmyersg: but thats fairly involved21:29
rtcgI don't have the luxury of trying it at this moment, but thank you for the suggestions.21:29
rtcgphone PBX call center software.21:29
myersgI know the servers IP now.21:29
myersghere is a demo of the router I am using: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/login.html21:29
kydanmyersg: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/adv_access_control.html21:31
kydanenable access control and then build a policy that blocks traffic to that IP21:31
myersgthank you I will try21:31
kydanmyersg: yep np. I got to go, goo luck21:32
kydangood*21:32
Hapzso i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program21:32
Hapzi want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them21:32
Hapzhow the hell do i remove that stupid feature21:32
dr_willisits not stupid.21:36
alusionhow do I preview files with nautilus?21:37
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/157849/is-it-possible-to-preview-arbitrary-formats-in-nautilus21:38
alusionI think I will just install dolphin lol21:39
dr_willisgloobus-preview   is a neat addon21:39
dr_willis!info gloobus-preview21:39
ubottuPackage gloobus-preview does not exist in precise21:39
dr_willishttps://launchpad.net/gloobus21:39
gillo! shoppingOS21:39
alusionbtw dr_willis, I was installing debian and accidently overwrote my windows partition with an encrypted partition -- is there a possibility of recovering my data?21:40
dr_willisalusion:  i would be suprised if it was possible.  #windows may know.21:40
JasonFIf I'm automatically doing some things to a server, is there a way to force apt/aptitude to never give me the "keep/replace/examine" dialog box on a conflicted file?21:41
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zykotick9JasonF: 1) i hope not.  2) don't use aptitude with 12.04 (see "/msg ubottu aptitude" for confirmation)21:42
JasonFzykotick9: so you'21:42
Guddus21:42
JasonFzykotick9: you're telling there's no way to disable that dialog box? To pre-make the decision?21:43
JasonFzykotick9: fwiw, I was using apt in all those cases.21:43
zykotick9JasonF: there might be... i just hope not.21:43
olga__i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.21:43
JasonFWell, I hope you're wrong?21:43
dr_willisJasonF:  i imagine there is.21:43
sveinseWhen precisely does the ubuntu kernel apply the vga= command line parameter? I've set it, but it still boots the first half of the kernel startup in 80x24 mode21:43
dr_willisolga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq21:44
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dr_willisHmmm21:53
olga__i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.21:54
dr_willisolga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq21:54
dr_willisand 'enter my pm' dosent really make sence. ;)21:54
olga__sorry my enlish is poore21:55
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olga__<dr_willis> i have scrin whith my problem))21:56
HypothesisFrogecadre is that so?21:56
MonkeyDustolga__  are you russian?21:57
olga__<MonkeyDust> yes? but nobudy in ruus chat codn't help me21:58
validusHi, I'd like some help with Advanced Format on the WD Drives?22:00
leo-unglaubhey, i just wanted to try 12.10 but i can't find any alternate images22:00
leo-unglaubwhere are they?22:00
Hapzdr_willis so you have an idea?22:01
upsetI downloaded source code with bzr branch.... but I don't know where it went....22:01
MonkeyDustleo-unglaub  better ask in #ubuntu+122:01
leo-unglaubMonkeyDust: okay, thx22:01
upsetWhere does bzr material go by default22:01
Jordan_Uvalidus: We can't help you until you actually ask a question :)22:02
dr_willisleo-unglaub:  i was thinking with 12.10+ they were going desktop only. but im not sure if that was just a possbility, or allready been decided22:03
dr_willisleo-unglaub:  ask in #ubuntu+122:03
HypothesisFrogdr_willis you mean no official server edition?22:03
leo-unglaubdr_willis: already did22:03
leo-unglaubthx22:03
dr_willisHypothesisFrog:  i dont pay attention to server news really.22:04
JasonFFor anyone in the future reading IRC logs with my problem: Just export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive22:04
dr_willisI was thinking the alternative installer got rolled into the desktop edition, or somthing like that.22:04
JasonFor apt-get install debconf-docs; man 7 debconf22:04
dr_willisJasonF:  the man pages pay off. ;)22:04
JasonFdr_willis: only when you know what to man22:05
JasonFdr_willis: almost always when I come to IRC, I'm just looking for the word to toss into google22:05
JasonF:P22:05
validusOkay, my problem is almost identical to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103855/partition-is-misaligned-by-3072-bytes-pavilion-dv7-6199us22:05
upsetCan no one help me understand baazar and launchpad?22:06
MonkeyDustupset  why use it if you don't know what it is?22:07
Kingsyguys, is there a resource you can check when looking for ppa's? reputable ppas at that.. no doubt there are alot that are no longer maintained etc..22:07
rtcgIt's amazing what one can do when one removes one's brain from between their butt-cheeks!22:07
TheLordOfTimeheh22:08
designbybeckI dont see a 1GB nVIDIA Quadro 2000 on the Ubuntu Hardware list... might it still be supported?22:08
rtcgThank you guys!  aplay now shows a sound card.  I'm back to regular sound setup issues now.22:08
upsetMonkeyDust: Wow, courtesy is not your strong suit22:08
upsetMonkeyDust: Is it not a program for downloading, modifying, and uploading software to and from Launchpad?22:08
Jordan_Uvalidus: So Windows' installer created misaligned partitions?22:10
validusNo...22:10
validusjordan: i installed ubuntu from the start, there is a misaligned sector error22:11
validusit says in disk utility:22:11
validusWARNING: The partition is misaligned by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested.22:11
validusits something to do with Western Digital HDs and their 4KiB sectors22:12
upsetI can't execute "bzr builddeb lp:agenda-tasks"  because it says there's no changelog22:12
Jordan_Uvalidus: Are you dual booting Ubuntu and Windows? Which partition does disk utility say is misaligned?22:12
rtcgA decent tap with a hammer should align it.22:12
validusjordan: no i am not22:12
upsetrtcg Everyone's a comedian22:12
validusjordan: the extended partition22:13
Jordan_Uvalidus: Ubuntu's installer is specifically designed to achieve optimal allignment when it does automatic partitioning. Did you use automatic partitioning when installing Ubuntu?22:13
validusjordan: yep22:13
validusfresh install on my new system22:14
Jordan_Uvalidus: Please use my full nick (Jordan_U) or I may miss your messages. You can use the tab key to auto-complete nicks.22:14
jesseFromYVRI'd like to access my routers web server admin page from a remote computer.   Can anyone describe/point to a tutorial that will tell me how to do this? I'm guessing the approach would be some kind of ssh tunnel.22:14
dr_willisyou may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' validus22:14
validusJordan_U: Okay cool22:15
dr_willisjesseFromYVR:  easier way would be to use SSH's X forwarding feature and run a browser on the server. but have it appear locally.22:15
rtcgjesseFromYVR: Some routers have external management that you can enable.  You can also create a NAT entry in your router to go to the correct internal router's management URL.22:15
dr_willisMy router has a access anywhere feature/account thing. :)22:15
validusJordan_U: one second22:16
rp2ssh -L8080:ocalhost:80 user@webserver22:16
rp2but with an extra l in there22:16
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rp2should do the trick (or similar)22:17
rp2if the sshd config doesn't disable -L22:17
p5000hi22:17
rp2p5000: ho22:17
jesseFromYVRthanks for the suggestions… I guess more generally, is it possible to connect to remote LAN in a way that you can connect to the remote LAN's computers using their 192.168. addresses22:18
rp2Jordan_U: nifty. I had no idea I could use TAB to autocomplete nicks. thanks22:18
rp2jesseFromYVR: that isn't entirely clear to me22:19
validusJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/iW44bMsK22:19
dr_willisjesseFromYVR:  i think that is basically what a 'vpn' is.22:19
Jordan_Urp2: You're welcome :)22:19
rp2but it could also be what 'NAT' is22:19
rp2please be more specific22:19
dr_willisout of the lan to the outside world would be a NAT.   from what im 'thinking' :)22:20
gurkeeHello! I installed munin-node on my 12.04 server -- however `start munin-node` as well as `stop munin-node` hang. I have to kill them. Running `munin-node` works just fine.22:20
dr_willisto the whole lan as if you were connected physically to it..  sounds like how vpn's work to me. but i rarely do this advanced stuff22:20
dr_willisgurkee:  you mean you run it as a user and it works?22:22
gurkeedr_willis: as root, yes22:22
TheLordOfTimegurkee, "root" is different than what we mean by "user"22:23
gurkeedr_willis: somehow the upstart scripts are irritated. what are they waiting for? as I say, start as well as stop just hangs and does not return22:23
Asadanyone know a GUI text diff? not file diff, but text diff .. as in paste two text blocks and get diff .. ?22:23
TheLordOfTimeAsad, diff file1 file2 > file, and then you open that new file up in gedit or something?22:23
TheLordOfTimeor are you looking for a side-by-side diff compare?22:24
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jesseFromYVRrp2: I'm in LAN A. The router's webpage I want to access is in LAN B, with address 192.168.A.B … I'd like to be able to 'join' LAN A, from a computer in LAN B, so that I can type address 192.168.A.B in my web browser and access  the routers admin page22:24
gurkeeTheLordOfTime: aye :) however, in this case we are clear. I think I have to somehow reset the service state of munin-node so that upstart thinks it is not running.22:24
gurkeedr_willis: also, munin-node is by default configured in a way that it runs as root22:25
jesseFromYVRer.. scratch the first sentence "I'm in LAN A" … makes the statement more confusing22:25
OerHeksjesseFromYVR, make an DMZ connection, sometime works to acces the router setup22:26
rp2jesseFromYVR: ugh - looks like a chicken & egg problem. the router will have to let you through somehow22:26
like_omg scrip`ppp22:26
gurkeedr_willis, TheLordOfTime: what my question mainly is: what could the upstart script be waiting for? I have no idea at which point it waits for something if it does not even find a running process during `stop` action.22:26
validusJordan_U: Any idea??22:26
rp2doyou knowanythign about the router's configuration or on what services are available on LAN B  machines. like, can you get through with ssh?22:27
jesseFromYVRrp2: I have set up port forwarding to allow ssh access to LAN B22:28
Jordan_Uvalidus: It's only your swap partition which is misaligned, so you should be able to delete it and re-create it with GParted (from a LiveCD/USB, the standard Ubuntu Live image contains Gparted) and GParted should align it properly.22:28
jesseFromYVRso I could do the VNC.. but I find it laggy22:28
validusJordan_U: I don't mind doing a fresh install as my setup is only a few days old22:29
rp2jesseFromYVR: you don't need VnC to access a web server ... forward the webserver's port (router:80)22:29
validusJordan_U: So how do you recommend I go about doing that from scratch?22:29
rp2ssh -L 8888:router:80 user@lanBmachine22:30
gurkeeTheLordOfTime: the problem is that I cannot reinstall munin-conf, because during apt-get operation, the service is tried to be stopped -- which also hangs. if I kill the stop process, then the whole apt-get operation fails.22:30
rp2if that makes sense to you22:30
jesseFromYVRrp2: vaguely.. let me experiment :)22:30
phii-tardI keep getting this crash report from wicd22:31
Jordan_Uvalidus: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD, open GParted, make sure that the correct drive is selected, then go to Device -> Create Partition Table. Create an msdos partition table, then apply the change, then exit GParted and install Ubuntu normally.22:33
Jordan_Uvalidus: If after that you still have a misaligned partition, please file a bug report by running "ubuntu-bug ubiquity".22:33
phii-tardclaims to be a duplicate of a bug that doesn't exist ( #628432 ) and all the other bug reports google can give me just say "this is a duplicate of bug #628432, any discussion should take place over there." ...but there isn't a bug #62843222:34
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 628432 could not be found22:34
phii-tardsee?22:34
Jordan_Uphii-tard: It probably does exist, but is private for some reason.22:35
validusJordan_U: ok thanks22:36
phii-tardoh. so...*if* there's a cure or a workaround, i need somebody on the wicd-daemon dev team to tell me what it is? :-(22:36
Jordan_Uphii-tard: Whoever marked it a duplicate probably didn't realize that it was private, since they could see it. Try asking in #ubuntu-bugs how best to go about resolving the problem.22:37
gimpy38Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?22:38
fippoHi, I exchanged my lucid installation disks into the new ivy bridge computer and updated initramfs with ata_piix, but the controller isn't recognized, the module not loaded and I'm dropping into busybox, why? Doesn't the lucid kernel support ivy bridge panther point?22:41
fippoprecise works, but I didn't updated the old lucid box to precise before the disk replacement.22:43
fippoi mean precise live-cd works22:44
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rtcgSo what IS the sound system in 10.04?   alsa, pulseaudio, esound?  I don't even know the question to ask -- I just have to correct the studdering/echoing audio.22:48
Dr_willispulse audio uses alsa rtcg .22:48
zykotick9rtcg: pulse which uses alsa!  pulse replaces esd (esound)22:48
rtcgeven in 10.04?  Okay  I'll google around for audo problems with pulse22:49
zykotick9rtcg: that's a long list ;)  best of luck.22:49
Dr_willispulse has been used for.. well.. ever?22:49
Dr_willisat least in ubuntu/gnome i think22:49
rtcgLong list indeed.  I need to figure out where to look.22:49
zykotick9Dr_willis: ;) i'd still consider pulse newish myself22:49
Dr_williscant say ive really had many issues with pulse..22:50
intel1hey22:53
intel1i wanna make an a disk image22:53
intel12 save the ubuntu customization22:53
intel1and save time22:53
intel1i searched for clonezilla22:54
intel1but i didn't find it in the ubuntu software center22:54
Dr_williswe can read more then 4 words per line intel1 ...22:54
Dr_willisintel1,  theres a clonezilla live cd that you may want to use.22:54
intel1ya Dr_willis22:54
intel1you22:54
intel1can22:54
intel1not replacements ?22:54
Dr_willisNormally you dont 'clone/image' a in use system.22:54
Dr_willisYou would use a live cd., and image  the system to some location.22:55
Dr_willis!find clonezilla22:55
ubottuPackage/file clonezilla does not exist in precise22:55
zykotick9isn't clonezilla a livecd?22:56
intel1Dr_willis so should i burn clonezilla on cd22:57
intel1or can i do it with usb stick or ... ?22:57
intel1??22:58
Dr_willishttp://clonezilla.org/  has both ways..22:58
flyinprogrameralright, trying to build a linux router from an old computer i have, i've enabled ipv4_forwarding, setup dhcp, all of my clients get ip addresses, and can ping, dig, and run traceroutes, and yet none of them have "internet" meaning i go to load a website and i get http timeout errors -- i followed this guide: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/,   what am i doing wrong ?22:58
flyinprogrameror maybe there's a bug in the kernel ?22:59
intel1dr_willis : there is a program called norton ghost is it suitable ?22:59
Dr_willisintel1,  thats a comercial program for windows.. I havent used it in years.. and found it lacking.. and costly.22:59
blackshirtflynprogramer,what about dns?22:59
intel1haha  Dr_willis k so can i use it ?23:00
BrentI <3 Ubuntu.. Thought I would share. Carry on.23:00
Dr_willis'i havent used it in years'  -> NO idea.23:00
flyinprogramerblackshirt: well i can dig from the client, so doesn't that prove dns is working? i have all the machines set to you google's  8.8.8.8, and 8.8.4.423:00
intel1k23:00
Dr_willisWhy use it when theres the Free Clonezilla.23:00
intel1its make an image called XXX.ght23:00
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intel1this is an a excutable image , this program can excute it on the driver u select23:01
HoNgOuRuI need help compiling and installing rt2870sta driver23:01
HoNgOuRuso please help23:01
blackshirtflynprogramer, what about (default) route on client?23:01
flyinprogramerblackshirt: that could be a possibility - tell me more ?23:01
blackshirtHong0uru,what the error?23:01
blackshirtflynprogrammer, is your client use your router as a default gateway?23:02
HoNgOuRublackshirt,  well, it al begun when I wanted to use the usb device in master mode... I had to blacklist rt2800usb driver but after that when I tried to modprobe rt2870sta I realised I didn't have it installed I downloaded it and run the make command, but it ends up with errors---23:03
flyinprogramerblackshirt: in the dhcp config i have "option routers" set to the box that's internet facing, and i was trying to make the box a router, so i have my clients hooked up to a "smart" switch..23:04
blackshirthong0uru, i think you should specific with the error23:04
flyinprogramerblackshirt: it should be noted that when i put a router between the box and the cable modem, everything works fine -- which seems really weird to me...23:04
HoNgOuRublackshirt, "error: struct task_struct dont have a member called fsuid...  fsgid suid fsgid23:05
HoNgOuRuone line per each23:05
blackshirtflynprogrammer, oh ... So the problem ?23:05
blackshirthong0uru, i think you download a diiferent version for your kernel23:06
HoNgOuRuok23:06
HoNgOuRuso?23:06
HoNgOuRuhow do I fix this?23:06
flyinprogramerblackshirt: well i was trying to understand why i need a router between the cable modem and server…23:06
flyinprogramerblackshirt: because theoretically a unix box with two nics can do the same thing… except not because right now it's not working… so why23:07
blackshirthong0uru, i think you should download the suite one, or use kernel that match23:07
HoNgOuRumy kernel... 3.2.0-24-generic23:07
OerHeksflyinprogramer, maybe the modem is linked to the mac of your router23:07
HoNgOuRuis that ok ?23:07
flyinprogramerOerHeks: i've restarted the modem, and the box has internet, and the clients can ping, traceroute, and dig...23:08
Dr_willisOerHeks,  i recall wheni switched router/pc from my cable modem i HAD to power down/restart the cable modem for things to start working..23:08
Dr_willisOerHeks,  :) but that dosent seem to be his case i guess. from his last comment.23:08
kionI installed Nvidia 304.51 and after that my unity lauch bar is hidden but does not respoond to mouse , I can only show it with super key ????23:08
OerHeksflyinprogramer, just checking, oke23:08
Dr_williskion,  as a test, try making a new user, see if it works for them.23:08
blackshirthong0uru, i don't know exactly, but the link you have download the driver should have information on this23:08
flyinprogramerOerHeks: np, i'm all ears because this one really has me spoofed… i'm tempted to install a window manager so i can use wireshark to maybe figure out what's going on.. i have iptraf running and can see the links getting established, but i'm too ignorant to understand what any of it really means in the UI provided23:09
OerHeksflyinprogramer, play with your dns > gateway ip / provider IP / opendns or 8.8.4.423:10
rhizmoeis it HP or Mozilla's fault that I can't just "print selection"?23:10
HoNgOuRublackshirt, thank you23:10
HoNgOuRuI'll do my homework next time23:11
blackshirthong0uru, good luck23:11
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HoNgOuRublackshirt, how do I install the latest stable kernel for ubuntu ?23:13
Dr_williscant say ive noticed a 'print selection' feature in firefox.23:13
Dr_willis!kernel23:13
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)23:13
TheLordOfTimeDr_willis:  i think that's a feature of the print screen, pretty sure FFox supports "print selectoin"23:14
blackshirt!kernel | hong0uru23:14
ubottuhong0uru: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)23:14
Anopehi all23:14
blackshirthi anope23:14
Anopei have a problem running my USB 3G modem23:15
Anopei have the 12.04 LTS23:15
Anopemy modem is a Huawei E36723:15
WeThePeopleok i would like to delete windows from hdd and then reinstall it to hdd, what do i eed to look out for when doing this?23:16
WeThePeoplei dual boot23:16
WeThePeopleubuntu23:16
blackshirtwethepeople, reinstall your windows?23:17
kionDr_willis:I will23:17
blackshirtanope,okey,so what the problems?23:17
WeThePeopleblackshirt, if halo worked on ubuntu.. forget windows23:17
japrohi, uh so what is the state of new nvidia laptops? i know there is some issue but google only comes up with articles about how angry linus is but nothing that clarifies the issue23:17
Anopethe modem is switched correctly with usb_modeswitch , the problem with Network manager blackshirt23:18
Anopei trayed with Sakis 3G23:18
Anopesame problem23:18
blackshirtwethepeople, halo?23:18
WeThePeoplelol23:18
blackshirtanope, what about with wvdial?23:18
WeThePeoplecomputer game23:18
Anopei wana try that blackshirt23:19
Anopethank you :)23:19
Dr_willisjapro,  depends on the video chipset in them. The Optimus stuff is working for some systems via the 'bumblebee' tools.23:20
Daghdhais there any 'dock' for the workspaces? Or shortcut keys to quickly go ton one?23:21
the56ker-MouSei need some help with wireless network adapter please23:21
japrowhat does "work" mean here? full features and performance or some funky open driver in pre alpha with opengl 1.1 support stuff? :d23:21
japroi kinda do graphics programming so that is relevant :D23:22
rhizmoeDaghdha: i'm sure you can bind f keys or whatever.23:22
rhizmoethere's probably a default, ctrl-alt-# or something23:22
Daghdhacursor keys it says here23:23
WeThePeopledaghdha, iirc, CARIO.. GLX look for it in soft center23:23
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rhizmoeunity?23:23
Daghdhayes23:23
hanzuhi -;23:24
DaghdhaBut i am in it trough VNC and my windows has that alt-ctrl-arrows already23:24
Daghdhalooks like a mac23:25
Guest40755hi23:25
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p0rkRunning 12.04 server, just turned on server after coming home from work and it being off. After Grub, I get errors about mounting samba shares. Specifically 'mount: unknock filesystem type 'PATH'' where PATH is the actual path to the share, not a type at all. it should be a local loopback type.23:30
p0rkThese shares worked fine for a few weeks since I initially set them up.23:30
Abdulrahmanwhen i'm going to make a software update this message appears to me on screen23:31
Abdulrahman'E:Type 'namon' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwendal-lebihan-dev-cinnamon-stable-precise.list'23:31
Abdulrahmanhow can  i solve this problem23:31
p0rkwiw23:31
p0rkwow23:31
p0rki am a complete idiot23:31
Abdulrahmanplz help needed here23:31
p0rki just needed to hit S for skip, it was on the screen23:31
Abdulrahmanno i mean i doesn't make any updates23:32
blackshirtabdulrahman, check your software sources23:32
rhizmoemanual boot bomb23:32
the56ker-MouSehelp please when someone gets a chance thank you23:32
blackshirtabdulrahman, where do you come from?23:34
AbdulrahmanEGYPT23:34
rtcgare there ANY other sound systems besides Pulse in Lucid that I can use?   The soundsystem is just so CHOPPY and static-y23:36
the56ker-MouSei need wireless adapter help please23:37
fhHey, I just updated my stable channel Google Chrome and the close, minimize and maximize buttons went to the right side. It is only on Chrome, other windows' buttons are still on the left side. Is this normal?23:38
k4r1mI tried evolution and I didn't like it so I removed it but I still keep getting a prompt for MAPI calendar.. how to do I get rid of it?23:38
shihanfh: yeah, when un-max'd they implement their own window frame23:39
shihank4r1m, probabaly need to sudo apt-get purge evolution-mapi23:40
fhshihan, so it's going to stay on the right side forever?23:40
k4r1mshihan, not installed.23:40
shihanfh, if you go into chromes appearence settings you xan xhange it iirc23:41
shihank4r1m, posibly evolution-exchange as well then23:41
shihanthe56ker-MouSe, describe your problem and someone might answer23:42
k4r1mshihan, nope23:42
k4r1mnvm found it, libecal23:42
shihank4r1m, lol, how about libedata-cal?23:42
shihanahhh23:42
k4r1mshihan, and evolution-common is still here :S23:45
fhHmm, thanks for the answers shihan, but I'm unable to find that appearance setting that you're talking about, besides "Use system title bar and borders", which is not the one I'm looking for.23:45
shihanfh, afaik, thats the only options, if its not maximised it either uses its own frame with the buttons on the right, or if you choose system title bar... its on which ever side the default is for the appearence settings your using23:46
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fhYeah, I got what you're saying. Thanks again.23:47
shihank4r1m, afaik, evolution-common is just a meta package anyways23:47
k4r1mshihan, hmm I'm still getting a prompt haha23:48
shihank4r1m, dpkg -l |grep evolution might be worth looking at, it should be one of those packages i would guess23:49
intel1hey23:50
intel1Dr_willis : r u here ?23:50
intel1?23:50
gimpy38Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?23:50
xxSn1p3rxxhello... im looking into a fun DIY project to build a satellite dish wifi antenna to boost my usb wifi's range. I realise perhaps this is the wrong channel to ask.. but im having trouble finding good info on the net... if anyone has any ideas...I'd apreciate your help :-)23:51
intel1k anyway23:51
japroso what is the current status of amd graphics drivers?23:51
shihanxxSn1p3rxx, look around at cantenna, you might find some stuff linking from pages relating to that23:51
the56ker-MouSei cant get wireless adapter to work says firmware missing so i was going through faq section trying everything i could find that dident seem like a waste of time and now my wireless adapter doesnt show up under network its a b43xx series on a hp laptop23:51
xxSn1p3rxxshihan: ahhh...cantenna! thats it! thanks!23:52
shihanthe56ker-MouSe, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer23:53
xxSn1p3rxx56ker: i had the same problem with 12.04 before... you should disable the wired net adapter prior to installing ubuntu...23:53
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the56ker-MouSeyeah theres no internet access on the latop shihan thats the problem im having i borrow my neighbors wireless ^_~23:54
shihanthe56ker-MouSe, what ubuntu version?23:56
the56ker-MouSethe latest 12.04lts23:56
Zabelyo23:58
shihanthe56ker-MouSe, i think this is the one you want.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/firmware-b43-installer/download grab it and dpkg -i (then cross fingers)23:59
xxSn1p3rxxhmmm.. where am i gona find a metal can with 12.5 cm diameter...23:59

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