[00:00] <Smackbook> it and win8 can both burn
[00:00] <boldfilter> In fucking hell
[00:00] <Smackbook> i agree Dr_willis that mate could die, but not as long as ubuntu is pushing unity
[00:00] <brightspark> aguitel_, it seems like the Mint team is currently splitting efforts between MATE and Cinnamon (which is newer and slicker) and they seem to be the primary backers of both, so if and when they go Cinnamon-only MATE may well die.
[00:00] <bloodriver> afaik firefox BETA syncs add ons...but does 12?
[00:00] <awc737> I didn't flood...
[00:00] <zodiak> awc737, I guess it was <cr> as punctuation
[00:00] <brightspark> and the swearing's out of line, chaps.
[00:00] <Smackbook> awc737: your messages buffered and all spit out at once
[00:01] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, brightspark ok
[00:01] <awc737> Dr_willis: unityis intended for tablets...?
[00:01] <Smackbook> awc737: look at it, huge buttons etc
[00:01] <boldfilter> Oops, I found it necessary to express how I felt
[00:01] <Dr_willis> awc737,  i belive Unity and Gnome-shell are both eventually going to be for desktops and tablets.
[00:01] <awc737> i didn't think ubu really worked on tablets correctly
[00:01] <Dr_willis> and TV sets..
[00:01] <Smackbook> even though ubuntu doesnt even work on tablets yet does it?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> awc737,  its a work in progress..
[00:02] <Dr_willis> since i know of no 'ubuntu/unity/linux' tablets in the mainstream markets yet...
[00:02] <boldfilter> Sure, lets make a tablet Ui for our os that's not even on a tablet yet
[00:02] <awc737> Dr_willis: but new features, tacked onto something that is fundamentally incorrect can not make us like it
[00:02] <awc737> they would have to fix it first
[00:02] <Smackbook> boldfilter: exactly
[00:02] <Dr_willis> awc737,  and with each release they make it better and better...
[00:02] <Smackbook> this argument has already been beaten to death in a million places though
[00:02] <awc737> they need to fix the way it works before they make it better, if they expect us to actually use it
[00:03] <boldfilter> I blame the hipsters
[00:03]  * jrib eyes non-support talk :x
[00:03] <boldfilter> Does apple have a tablet os on their desktops. Fuck no, that's stupid you idiot
[00:04] <Smackbook> whats happening is manufacturers are all jumping on this bandwagon that desktops/laptops are dinosaurs and will be obsolete and the world will go to tablets, and no one wants to be left behind, so they are all abandoning mouse computer interfaces for touch screen interfaces  and making people who have *computer* click their mouses on giant touch screen buttons, and depriving them of proper window management and multitasking
[00:04] <jrib> boldfilter: please watch the language (and let's get back to ubuntu support)
[00:04] <brightspark> I did say about the swearing, boldfilter.
[00:04] <bazhang> boldfilter, no cursing here
[00:04] <Dr_willis> actually OS-X is getting more and more tablet like from what ive read.. but i dont use any apple stuff. and its annoying the die-hard apple pc users..
[00:05] <Dr_willis> It will be neat to see what happens  when Ubuntu-TV gets out also. (if it does)
[00:05] <Smackbook> but the market will work this all out
[00:05] <boldfilter> Windows 8 is going to be like Vista
[00:05] <bazhang> Smackbook, get back on topic please
[00:06] <bloodriver> Anyway...gonna try FIREFOX beta and see if that syncs addons...do not see an option on 12 to do this...thanks
[00:06] <boldfilter> That was inconvenient, Thanks!
[00:07] <bazhang> boldfilter, this is ubuntu support only. chit chat elsewhere
[00:07] <artao> do the devs ever come here? how about Shuttleworth?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  ther was some sync button/icon at the bottom of the default firefox start page on windows. that i had to  explore/find in the ubuntu firefox. due to the ubuntu firefox plugins. (or just disable that plugin)
[00:07] <bazhang> artao, no
[00:07] <artao> I just want to tell them to screw off ... re: amazon ads in Ubuntu
[00:07] <boldfilter> Can someone show me how to uninstall Unity its a piece
[00:07] <artao> kay. fair nuf.
[00:07] <ChaoticanarchyX> hi all, can anyone help walk me through how to install a program
[00:08] <artao> those gorram jerks!!!
[00:08] <jrib> artao: great.  Thanks for your input.
[00:08] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  then you use sync on both devices and  get some passcode to enter on the other devices.
[00:08] <blackshirt> !apt
[00:08] <bloodriver> okay i'll try that
[00:08] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, with the package manager
[00:08] <zykotick9> !notunity | boldfilter
[00:08] <Dr_willis> those are not ads.  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/mark-shuttleworth-explains-ubuntus-new-amazon-adware-feature
[00:08] <ChaoticanarchyX> synapse? i tried
[00:08] <jhkier> i have a query - being a noob to Ubuntu VM - what is the best way to code edit directly on the server? any advice?
[00:08] <toshgsh> when i leave the mouse in a location for 1 second it automatically executes the left-mouse-click how can i remove this?
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang i tried using it and it wouldnt
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> tried software center too
[00:09] <Dr_willis> toshgsh,  theres a 'accessability' settings that may be responsible for that.  but im not sure where the settings are. try the 'dash' search feature perhaps and search for accessability (oor how its spelt)
[00:09] <brightspark> boldfilter, do you have another desktop environment currently installed (so when you uninstall Unity, you're not stuck without graphics)?
[00:09] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, try the command line then
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> how do you install with terminal?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  sudo apt-get install Packagename
[00:10] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename  ChaoticanarchyX
[00:10] <brightspark> is aptitude not included with the new Ubuntu release?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> brightspark,  its not reccomended to use aptitude any more
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !aptitude
[00:10] <bazhang> brightspark, its been deprecated
[00:10] <zykotick9> !aptitude | brightspark
[00:11] <BebopSteve> damn that bot is smart
[00:11] <ChaoticanarchyX> the folder containing the binaries is on my desktop will that make the difference when I type that line in?
[00:11] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, thats not how you use the package manager or apt-get, so no
[00:11] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name
[00:11] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, if you already have the binaries you use dpkg instead (if it's not also depracated)
[00:12] <zykotick9> brightspark: dpkg isn't deprecated, it's used to install all DEB packages, once apt downloads them...
[00:12] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang ok let me try that
 i've found it thanks
[00:13] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name exactly
 it was the universal access
[00:13] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder whats so Universal about it. ;)
[00:13] <Zachster1996> hello
[00:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang its the program off the www.processing.org/
[00:13] <brightspark> thanks zykotick9.  I'm still on 10.10 hiding from Unity so I just wanted to check before I gave bad advice.
[00:13] <defaultro> hey folks, glad I found a driver for my Canon printer :D it was a breeze installing. Love it!!!
[00:14] <defaultro> I'm using LibreWriter. Don't like the fonts. Will I be able to use all my ttf fonts that are on Windows?
[00:14] <zykotick9> brightspark: you shouldn't still be using 10.10.  see "/msg ubottu 10.10" for details.
[00:14] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang i downloaded the folder off of it
[00:14] <Zachster1996> to all of you who were helping me yesterday with my byobu problem, ty and i figured it out
[00:15] <boldfilter> Gnome classic isnt so bad
[00:15] <defaultro> so is it possible to use .ttf fonts in Ubuntu?
[00:15] <gordonjcp> defaultro: yes, of course
[00:15] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang: processing-2.0b3
[00:15] <defaultro> great. Where can I find howtos?
[00:16] <gordonjcp> defaultro: http://www.google.com
[00:16] <defaultro> lol
[00:16] <defaultro> that was helpful :D
[00:16] <defaultro> found one
[00:16] <bazhang> gordonjcp, dont do that here
[00:16] <gordonjcp> well come *on*
[00:16] <defaultro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[00:16] <ChaoticanarchyX> is the folder that extracts from the processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:16] <gordonjcp> did you not think to try searching on your favourite search engine?
[00:16] <brightspark> thanks zykotick9, I understand it's unsupported and I won't ask of anyone's time here to help me :). But I like my setup.
[00:17] <bazhang> gordonjcp, if you dont know, then dont answer. dont direct to google
[00:17] <gordonjcp> bazhang: I *do* know
[00:17] <haylo> defaultro: search like this: how do i install wifi on debian ?     note the space before the question mark and google respects "quoted phrases" as verbatim
[00:17] <Ganharb> Hello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?
[00:17] <gordonjcp> bazhang: the vast majority of "support" questions in here are answered in the first hit on google with fairly obvious search terms
[00:17] <zykotick9> brightspark: using 'non-updated' software is a bad idea...  not just for you, but for the entire internet-ecosystem...
[00:17] <Dr_willis> defaultro,  ttf fonts have worked for years..
[00:18] <haylo> also adding the keyword "linux" will help a lot
[00:18] <defaultro> I'm following the instructions I posted
[00:18] <bazhang> gordonjcp, just dont
[00:18] <defaultro> what is Nautilus though?
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: I can't really remember a time when they didn't
[00:18] <Dr_willis> !fonts
[00:18] <jhkier> how do i clean up this thread to remoev all the "join" etc etc... is very messy!
[00:18] <Dr_willis> gordonjcp,  i can rember when you had to compile your own font server to get support for 'legal' reasons
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: they were a bit crappy looking in 1995
[00:18] <haylo> defaultro: its a file manager- you know something that shows you folders etc
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: yes
[00:18] <bazhang> jhkier, which client
[00:18] <brightspark> zykotick9, I hadn't heard that.  Can you post a link to an essay on that?  I'd like to read more.
[00:18] <defaultro> got it. thanks haylo
[00:18] <jhkier> bazhang: webclient
[00:19] <Ganharb> Hello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?
[00:19] <defaultro> also, what window manager could I be using right now? The minimize, restore buttons are on the top left like Mac
[00:19] <bazhang> Ganharb, #winehq
[00:19] <Ganharb> ty
[00:19] <ampd> defaultro: get everything running ok yesterday?
[00:19] <defaultro> ampd, yup
[00:19] <defaultro> looks like my ap went bad
[00:19] <defaultro> not sure why
[00:20] <bazhang> jhkier, there should be button on the top left. if not, try asking in #freenode
[00:20] <ampd> defaultro: hmm, odd
[00:20] <defaultro> it is very odd
[00:20] <defaultro> now, i am connected to my Uverse wifi
[00:20] <jhkier> thanks :)
[00:20] <ampd> defaultro: so maybe it wasn't ubuntu messing with the network?
[00:20] <defaultro> ampd, what gui am I using right now? The window looks like a Mac
[00:21] <ampd> defaultro: post screenshot to imgur
[00:21] <Dr_willis> !manual | defaultro
[00:21] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:21] <defaultro> ampd, it only started when I installed ubuntu. I found another forum which has the same problem as mine. His, it also ruined their school network
[00:21] <bloodriver> groovy!  i found the add on switch and now am very happy!  that's for the info bro :)  thanks all!  later.
[00:21] <Dr_willis> compare the manuals screenshots with yourrs :)
[00:21] <jhkier> back onto ubuntu - Wondering if anyone can recommend a Code Editor/process for my VM... what is the best way to go about this?
[00:21] <defaultro> Dr_willis, will do
[00:21] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang: whats the command line in terminal to use the dpkg to install binaries?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  you install .deb packages. not 'binaries'    sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[00:22] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  or use gdebi foo.deb  (if you install gdebi)
[00:22] <ChaoticanarchyX> sorry, still dipping my feet in the linux pool
[00:22] <Dr_willis> !info gdebu
[00:22] <Dr_willis> !info gdebi
[00:22] <ampd> defaultro: you can also log off and see which session is selected in gdm
[00:23] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:23] <defaultro> got it
[00:23] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:23] <zykotick9> !fr | Jiraya
[00:23] <defaultro> brb, I'll prepare my windows so I can copy all the .ttf files
[00:23] <Jiraya> Merci
[00:23] <Jiraya> ubottu
[00:23] <boldfilter> How do you put unity on the right
[00:24] <Dr_willis> boldfilter,  the unity left side panel? You dont.  theres some unofficial (or used to be) hacks out for it.  but they had issues..
[00:24] <boldfilter> Stupid
[00:24] <drobati> I've just installed 12.04 on a new system. Windows 7 was already installed and now I don't have a grub showing up on boot. It goes STRAIGHT into Win7. I also have no internet on the machine because for whatever reason the wireless card is not working.
[00:24] <jhkier> anyone got insight into this one ? sorry for bombing into the conversation.
[00:25] <ampd> jhkier: what are you asking, what editor to use?
[00:25] <brightspark> jhkier, are you asking about a generic text editor or an integrated development environment?
[00:26] <ChaoticanarchyX> dr willis i dont have a deb folder with those kinds of binaries. i got the folder off the http://www.processing.org/
[00:26] <ChaoticanarchyX> its for C programming
[00:26] <jhkier> ampd: well yes I guess... but its a VM... so I'm more interested in the process. it seems a bit mental to VNC into ubuntu and then launch an editor... how does everyone else do this #Noob
[00:26] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,   a 'deb' file has .deb as the extension.. I have no idea what you mean by 'binaries'
[00:27] <jhkier> brightspark: not really any need for a IDE..
[00:27] <ampd> jhkier: vim?
[00:27] <ChaoticanarchyX> then im probably mis-wording it
[00:27] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  if its not a .deb then you dont use the package manager tools to install it.
[00:27] <ChaoticanarchyX> anywho they are the files that im supposed to install
[00:27] <jhkier> a half dcent php editor would surfice.
[00:28] <ampd> jhkier: if you want a gui, i've used bluefish before and it was ok
[00:28] <gordonjcp> jhkier: gedit?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  whats the exact file name you downloaded and are trying to work with?
[00:28] <theplanet> im running 11.04. can i upgrade to latest without wiping my current install?
[00:28] <ampd> jhkier: i'd try vim though
[00:28] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, give us a hint as to what you have.  File extension?
[00:28] <gordonjcp> theplanet: yes
[00:28] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  yes. but make backups. :)
[00:28] <jhkier> ampd: Is Vim just a terminal editor?  - I'm presuming bluefish is something which I run from the ubuntu desktop?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | theplanet
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you already have gedit
[00:29] <Dr_willis> jhkier,  theres gvim :)
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you do not need to install anything else
[00:29] <theplanet> Dr_willis, why, is it prone to fail?
[00:29] <ampd> jhkier: yea, vim is terminal, bluefish is targeted towards web dev
[00:29] <gordonjcp> theplanet: no but you can't be too careful ;-)
[00:29] <jhkier> so the best way to do it is simply VNC and edit from there?
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: no
[00:29] <brightspark> jhkier, vim is hard for a first-time user.  Nano runs on the command line and is a bit friendlier, but less powerful.
[00:29] <drobati> vim is awesome but not like other editors
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't VNC to your server, that's silly
[00:29] <theplanet> how many documented cases of the upgrade failing do you know of?
[00:29] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  data worth keeping is worth backing up...
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:30] <zykotick9> theplanet: WAY too many to count ;)
[00:30] <drobati> I recommend nano for jhkier.
[00:30] <jhkier> brightspark: i've used nano it works ok.. so i guess thats what i'm looking for.. something like that but allows me to move around a bit easier
[00:30] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  you would not belive the # of times ive seen peoplle in here say 'i was upgradeing, and had a power outage...' and so forth.
[00:30] <ampd> Dr_willis: doesn't ubuntu recommend upgrading to 11.10 first?
[00:30] <theplanet> it's a laptop though
[00:30] <jhkier> gordonjcp: vnc = my thoughts exactly...
[00:30] <theplanet> god damnit
[00:30] <Dr_willis> ampd,  you must go from one release to the next, Untill you get to a LTS - THEN you can go LTS -> LTS
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't even edit on your server
[00:30] <ampd> jhkier: bluefish is full on gui development
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: just, *don't*
[00:30] <theplanet> im more willing to get a new laptop and go from there
[00:30] <zykotick9> theplanet: expect upgrades from release to release to fail - an you need to do it twice (once for 11.04 -> 11.10 then twice with 11.10 -> 12.04)
[00:31] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis: its on the website i posted, its under the downloads for linux 32 bit version. when its downloaded the folder it extracts out is called processing-2.0b3
[00:31] <ampd> Dr_willis: ahh, ok
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you've already got gedit, which has syntax highlighting for pretty much anything you're going to run across thanks to gtksourceview
[00:31] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  whats the EXACT file name of the file you downloaded?
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: now, set up some sort of source control like git
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you *need* source control
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it *will* save your backside, right when you need it to
[00:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:32] <jhkier> ampd: so bluefish would have a full copy of the site on my desktop and push the files up everytime.
[00:32] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  so thats an ARCHIVE like a .zip, you extract it then figure out what to do with its contents.
[00:32] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so gedit - where is it?
[00:32] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, file-roller processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:32] <ampd> jhkier: here's some movies on what it does: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/screenshots.html
[00:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis: yes sir.
[00:32] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it's already installed, it's the standard editor
[00:32] <gordonjcp> well, the standard GUI editor
[00:33] <ChaoticanarchyX> file-roller a program?
[00:33] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, yep.
[00:33] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't forget, you're running Linux on your desktop machine
[00:33] <jhkier> gordonjcp: this is where you're losing me... GUI editor without VNC... i don't undersatnd.
[00:33] <ampd> jhkier: it does have site upload/download i guess, havent used it though
[00:33] <gordonjcp> jhkier: where does VNC come into it?
[00:34] <jhkier> ampd: yeah.. no linux on desktop.. that might be.
[00:34] <ChaoticanarchyX> would i look under software center or synapse for that?
[00:34] <jhkier> it
[00:34] <gordonjcp> jhkier: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[00:34] <ampd> gordonjcp: i still can't figure it out myself
[00:34] <jhkier> gordonjcp: I was querying how i would get a GUI interface on my remote machine....
[00:34] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, it may be installed by default.
[00:34] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you don't
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: that's an astonishingly retarded idea
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> It is allready
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> I allready extracted the files
[00:35] <jhkier> gordonjcp: I know... thats what i thought too.
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: never ever do that, unless you know exactly what you're doing
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> its installing them i need to do
[00:35] <ampd> jhkier: why cant you edit files on your computer and push them to the remote machine fi thats where you want them
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: are you running Linux on your desktop?
[00:35] <jhkier> gordonjcp: no win7 on desktop.
[00:35] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, so we need the exact filenames of what was inside the archive.
[00:35] <ampd> gordonjcp: he wants to do php, it shouldn't even matter
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: oh, I've never used Windows
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: there's probably some way of editing files in Windows and uploading them to a server
[00:36] <ChaoticanarchyX> oh
[00:36] <jhkier> I run win7 desktop ubuntu 11 remote. want to edit some very basic php/css files on the machine...
[00:36] <gordonjcp> that's a pretty clunky way of working
[00:36] <ChaoticanarchyX> ok
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: well the *simplest* way but it has a bit of a learning curve would be to use something like putty to ssh into the machine, and use vim
[00:36] <jhkier> hahaha - i suppose.
[00:37] <ampd> jhkier: just edit them in windows and upload them to the server. Bluefish has a windows client if you need to do that
[00:37] <drobati> Anyone mind helping me with my bootloader problem. I don't know why grub is missing.
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I run Linux and Mac OSX on my laptop, Linux on my desktop and all my servers
[00:37] <ampd> jhkier: or learn vim, it's pretty useful
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: so I can have my laptop or desktop running an exact clone of the server
[00:37] <drobati> Vim is great.
[00:37] <Jordan_U> drobati: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: this means I do all my editing and testing locally, then use fabric to deploy to the server
[00:38] <drobati> Jordan_U: I do indeed.
[00:38] <jhkier> ampd: i think you're right about editing them on my machine and pushing up to the server.... I think my initial question was trying to align this..
[00:38] <gordonjcp> jhkier: even if you're just doing web dev as a hobby it makes sense to do it the "proper" way
[00:38] <drobati> I have one SSD (/dev/sda) and one HDD (/dev/sdb).
[00:38] <Jordan_U> drobati: Grub's boot sector was probably installed to a different drive than the one your BIOS is booting from.
[00:38] <jhkier> gordonjcp: agreed - do you have a full copy of the entire website?
[00:38] <ChaoticanarchyX> brightspark: the folders in side are: core, java, launch4j, lib, modes, tools, and then two text looking files named: processing and the revisions text
[00:38] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yes
[00:39] <drobati> My BIOS should be booting off the SSD. Which is my 'OS' drive.
[00:39] <jhkier> OK -
[00:39] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it's a little more complicated than that, because I have a server at home running kvm, which allows me to set up and destroy virtual machines really quickly
[00:39] <drobati> And that is where I thought I installed grub, but how can I check.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | drobati
[00:39] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, the processing file has no extension- it's just "processing"?
[00:39] <|Anthony|> anyone here brave / competent enough to tackle a pulseaudio issue
[00:40] <Jordan_U> drobati: Boot info script can tell you, or you can just try telling the BIOS to boot from each drive explicitly.
[00:40] <jhkier> OK...
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: so what I do is I use a VM for my "webdev" server, and another VM for my "fake production" server
[00:40] <theplanet> LTS stands for "Long Term Support," meaning the Desktop Edition is supported for three years, and the Server Edition is supported for five years <<< so iinstalling server edition and equipping it with a desktop environment is a good idea
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: the "fake production" server is actually a clone of the image off my *real* VM, hosted somewhere in London
[00:40] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so how do you edit on the webdev server?
[00:40] <WeThePeople> how do i check the internet speed?
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I don't
[00:40] <bazhang> theplanet, thats not right
[00:41] <zykotick9> theplanet: nope doesn't work that way.  the desktop-like package aren't supported for the extra time.
[00:41] <jhkier> gordonjcp: edit locally and push to webdev?
[00:41] <zykotick9> theplanet: fyi 12.04 is supported 5 years server AND desktop!
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I edit locally, on my local machine with a test server running on that
[00:41] <UbuN00b> is there an ubuntu channel dedicated to install issues?
[00:41] <maicod> can I disable the docking of windows to the top bar and making them 'full screen' ?
[00:41] <blackshirt> wethepople,you can use speedtest.net
[00:41] <bazhang> theplanet, the current lts is 5 years both versions
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: oh, sorry, that was what you meant
[00:41] <theplanet> oh good
[00:41] <drobati> Jordan_U: I have no internet access though. I'll rtfm on bootloader but is there any cavet like needing internet?
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yes, my laptop runs apache etc so I just test on that
[00:41] <theplanet> thanks guys
[00:42] <bazhang> UbuN00b, just ask the channel, all on one line
[00:42] <jhkier> gordonjcp: does anyone edit directly onto a webdev server insetady? i really like the idea of not having anything on my machine incase i drop it in the pool etc.
[00:42] <carter_> can anyone help me with a file transfer
[00:42] <gordonjcp> jhkier: only if they are suicidal
[00:42] <gordonjcp> jhkier: or really, really keen to change jobs in a hurry
[00:42] <jhkier> gordonjcp: understood :-p
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: that's a great way of blowing the backside out of your production site
[00:43] <Jordan_U> drobati: Well if you want to run boot info script you'll need to get the script to the machine somehow. It seems like it's probably worth explicitly booting from one drive, then the other (don't assume that you know for sure the current default, try both).
[00:43] <turbodr00l> so my wifi stops working after around 5 mins and i have to reconnect, wtf is going on
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: if you get in the habit of editing directly on the dev server then one day you'll make a mistake and edit on the live server
[00:43] <jhkier> gordonjcp: but couldn't you have just another remote machine for dev?
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: and that's the day you'll do something *stupid*
[00:43] <jhkier> gordonjcp: wouldn't be the first stupid mistake ive made
[00:43] <UbuN00b> Ok, so I found Ubuntu Ultimate gamer and gparted.iso.  I booted gparted.iso, deleted all the partitions and created a new one.  I only want Ubuntu on this machine to force myself to learn it.
[00:44] <UbuN00b> during the install process, it asks for language, then it makes sure i have enough space and connected to internet
[00:44] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so what editor do you use locall?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yeah, I've *never* accidentally blown away the production machine
[00:44] <gordonjcp> jhkier: gedit
[00:44] <bazhang> UbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer
[00:44] <drobati> How do I go about setting which drive to boot off? I know the system is installed to /dev/sda3; windows is on /dev/sda2.
[00:44] <drobati> Jordan_U: ^
[00:44] <UbuN00b> then it asks where to install it, but there are no drives shown in the list to install from
[00:44] <maicod> when I move the top edge of a window to the topbar of ubuntu it docks. Is there a way to disable this ?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> right, nn all
[00:45] <UbuN00b> it doesn't even give me the option to erase entire disk and install
[00:45] <jhkier> gordonjcp: thanks mate
[00:45] <bazhang> UbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer
[00:45] <ampd> jhkier: check pm
[00:45] <UbuN00b> it's 12.04 but i guess for gaming
[00:45] <gordonjcp> jhkier: also if you are doing actual web app stuff, look into web frameworks like CakePHP, Django etc
[00:45] <bazhang> UbuN00b, its not supported here
[00:45] <asus1025c> i have an atom n2800 netbook (GMA 3600 graphics)  and I am running X at 1280x768 24 bit color on my 32inch LCD TV which is attached to my netbook via hdmi. Can anyone tell me how can i change the resolution to 16 bit?
[00:46] <UbuN00b> ok, is 12.04 supported because i downloaded that one and same problem, as a matter of fact I have 10, 11, and 12 but all versions give me the same error during install
[00:46] <bazhang> !ultimate | UbuN00b
[00:46] <UbuN00b> it doesn't show ANY partitions to install it to, even after I used gparted.iso to make the partition
[00:48] <drobati> Jordan_U: I've just used a flash drive to transfer it over so hopefully this works.
[00:48] <rufsketch1> Hey everyone
[00:48] <UbuN00b> any ideas why during the third step in the install it doesn't show ANY partitions available?
[00:48] <rufsketch1> how do I install the latest nvidia driver from repos?
[00:48] <rufsketch1> I need 304.43
[00:48] <UbuN00b> even after I created the partition using gparted
[00:49] <rufsketch1> internet says the reason I'm getting issues with wine is because installing using provided nvidia script doesn't play well with 32-bit compatibility libraries
[00:49] <Jordan_U> drobati: That is going to depend on your particular BIOS. Do understand though that BIOSs don't have any concept of partitions, it's only the two drives which they see.
[00:49] <drobati> Yes I understand that.
[00:50] <drobati> Oh.
[00:50] <drobati> I follow, I'll try and boot off the HDD.
[00:50] <UbuN00b> I can only use the Ubuntu 12.04 live cd provided i hit the button when the keyboard icon is present, press f6 and choose nomodeset, only then can i get to the live desktop
[00:51] <rufsketch1> also, the 295 version from repos seems not to work at all with my card
[00:51] <UbuN00b> i try to install from the install ubuntu icon.  It asks me to select language, checks to make sure i have 4.5GiB space, connected to internet, download updates during install, install 3rd party programs and then i click next
[00:51] <drobati> When I installed the system I set /dev/sda3 to mount / and setup some linux-swap on the HDD along with 150 GB to /dev/sdb6
[00:51] <drobati> This flash drive doesn't seem to work
[00:51] <drobati> let me try booting off the HDD
[00:52] <UbuN00b> next screen wants to know what partition to install to and there are no partitions to choose from
[00:52] <drobati> oh and i mounted /dev/sdb6 to /home/drobati
[00:52] <drobati> er /home *
[00:52] <UbuN00b> if i press 'install now' i get the error "no root file is specified. please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[00:52] <UbuN00b> or something very similar
[00:53] <UbuN00b> but on the live cd when i run gparted it shows 1 partition that i created
[00:53] <Jordan_U> UbuN00b: Can you post a screenshot?
[00:53] <UbuN00b> how do i do that???
[00:53] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:53] <|Anthony|> UbuN00b, by chance is the hdd still mounted in the live disc? meaning you mounted it when fiddling with gparted, and it's still mounted
[00:53] <MrGizmo757> Hey is there a better alternative to DeVeDe  or Bonbono. they both give me the same issue.
[00:54] <drobati> Jordan_U: booting off HDD did not work either.
[00:54] <drobati> It booted to windows.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  and what issue is that?
[00:54] <UbuN00b> i have the pics on my facebook looking for help, let me grab them off of FB real quick
[00:54] <stercor> How do I fix this? "./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `dlopen'"
[00:55] <jrib> stercor: give context for what you are doing
[00:55] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?
[00:55] <stercor> jrib: Compiling sqlcipher.
[00:55] <Jordan_U> drobati: OK, so you've now tried explicity telling the BIOS to boot from the HD. Have you tried explicitly telling the BIOS to boot from SSD?
[00:55] <MrGizmo757> Dr-willis,  Videos that are more then the 1:30 mark give me errors. they wont fit on the disk.  compare that to the DVD maker in windows that automatically scales it down to fit. its annoying
[00:55] <drobati> Jordan_U: It does that by default.
[00:55] <drobati> Undoubtedly.
[00:56] <justus> hello, I got a very screwed up problem with adding an external monitor to my samsung nc10
[00:56] <drobati> Never-the-less, I will still give it a shot. Since bootup times with SSD's are seconds long.
[00:56] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  theres a button in devede to 'ressize/scale' the video down to the needed size of disk. at a loss of quailty of course.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> drobati: Please try it explicitly, if for nothing else than to make me happy :)
[00:56] <justus> the external display will only accept a turned orientation, either clock or counterclockwise
[00:56] <drobati> !
[00:56] <drobati> UEFI!!!!
[00:56] <justus> the display menu does not offer me any other options, suggestions?
[00:56] <drobati> NOT A BIOS
[00:56] <drobati> Dear lord.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  ive put several hours of video on a 4gb dvd with Devede. - but the quality was lacking. but it was cartoons for the kids. ;)
[00:57] <drobati> This menu clearly says at the top UEFI dualBIOS.
[00:57] <drobati> So which is it?
[00:57] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   oh i haden't noticed that.  Where is that option located?   Dose Bombono have it to or just DeVeDe?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> drobati: That means that your boot firmware can boot via either UEFI or BIOS.
[00:58] <justus> no one here with any knowledge that could help me with my display problem?
[00:58] <drobati> Hmm.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  big shiny button that says 'adjust disk ussage' ;)  see the screen shot here.. http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  its like the last button i click befor moving onto making the iso image.
[00:58] <Jordan_U> drobati: I need to leave, but I will be back in 30-45 minutes.
[00:58] <UbuN00b> ok, i have the .jpg pictures of the install steps plus the gparted.iso partition table, how do i show them in irc?  please forgive me for being new to all of this.
[00:58] <drobati> I'll keep at it.
[00:58] <drobati> Thanks for the help.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  devede is also a python script so its fairly easy to tweak to change various settings and defaults you may want to change.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:59] <drobati> Jordan_U: Additionally, I explicitly tried the SSD and it went into windows still.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  i for example always want things to 'auto play first item, and loop back to the first item' so i edited the script.  and i altered the default titles also.
[00:59] <UbuN00b> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:59] <tsimpson> !paste | UbuN00b, the 2nd link
[00:59] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, i know that button. i didn't know that's what it did.   Thanx ill give it a try.  i am kind of a DeVeDe noob. :-)
[01:00] <justus> great, so no one?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> drobati: Ubuntu's installer probably installed grub for BIOS rather than grub for UEFI, and your boot firmware is currently configured to boot via UEFI (though it could all be the other way around).
[01:00] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  it adjust the disk ussage to match the size of the disk you selected...
[01:00] <UbuN00b> these aren't screenshots, just .jpg images
[01:01] <Jordan_U> UbuN00b: http://imagebin.org allows you to upload any type of image.
[01:01] <drobati> Jordan_U: I'll look into it further. I know that windows is using BIOS.
[01:01] <Jordan_U> drobati: How do you know that?
[01:01] <drobati> I ran some command in CMD, from a guide.
[01:02] <drobati> I can't remember it anymore
[01:02] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   yeah. i Assume it dose what the windows dvd maker dose automatically.  its just an option i have to choose in DeVeDe i guess.
[01:02] <jrib> stercor: then you should give specifics about how you are doing it ;)
[01:03] <drobati> Jordan_U: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/bootmode.html
[01:03] <drobati> bcdedit
[01:03] <UbuN00b> ok, here is a link to the partition table http://imagebin.org/229690
[01:03] <drobati> According to that it said BIOS based is .exe
[01:04] <UbuN00b> this is the next step in install process http://imagebin.org/229691
[01:04] <UbuN00b> here is the following step http://imagebin.org/229692
[01:04] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis.  i also have issues with Title Menus in DeVeDe.  i have to set it to skip the title screen and play automatically.  if i dont the DVD just get stuck at the title screen when i put it in my TV. do you know how to fix that?
[01:05] <UbuN00b> here is where my anger gets bad http://imagebin.org/229693
[01:05] <UbuN00b> http://imagebin.org/229693 this is where i want to take the disc out and play frisbee with my terrier
[01:06] <UbuN00b> even after i created the partition, it recognizes there is at least 4.5GB of free space available, but when i go to install it, it says nothing is there.  it doesn't make sense!
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  you select a title  and hit play with the dvd players remote?  ;)
[01:08] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  i tend to make them all auto play and loop forever - I mainly do cartoon dvds for the grandkids
[01:08] <UbuN00b> any ideas?
[01:08] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,  Yes.  it just freezes.  if i set i to play the first title by default its fine.
[01:10] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  test the iso file in vlc, or mplayer perhaps. See if it messes up there. Could be some odd quirk with the dvd player
[01:11] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   Maybe. My DVD player is kind of a peice of junk.
[01:12] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  got a new blueray player for the wife.. it can play videos off the Shared network drives. ;) no need to make disks much these days
[01:12] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, dose the loop option make it automatically play when you insert it like the play first title option?  or do you have to manually push play  and then it loops afterwards?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  I think you enable both.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> and it plays, then loops.. forever and ever and ever...
[01:13] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, it wont let me enable both. that's why i asked.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> beats listening to the  Menu "music" on normal dvd disks over and over when the kids fall asleep at night.
[01:14] <Dr_willis> I belive i set the menu to auto play the first title. and set each title to play the next title. then the last title. i set to play the first.. I cant rember.. been ages.
[01:15] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, ok well ill just try it a Few diffrent ways i guess. i have a few extra dvd's i can afford to waste.   ill be back if i have problem. Thanx for the help.  :-)
[01:17] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?
[01:17] <perhapstired> +Hey guys, anyone here installed the bitcoin client from withyin the Ubuntu Software Center?
[01:17] <perhapstired> I have this virtualbox instance with ubuntu installed from ages ago and am wondering how to access the bitcoin client it claims to have had installed from the software center
[01:18] <zodiak> perhapstired, look in the menu or worst case, bring up a terminal and type bit<hit tab twice>
[01:18] <perhapstired> By menu, what part of the menu do you mean?
[01:19] <zodiak> dear gods.. how on earth am I supposed  to know THAT
[01:19] <zodiak> look at the entries
[01:19] <zodiak> I installed a program, once, a long time ago, no name, where is it ?
[01:20] <zodiak> it's ~probably~ in apps
[01:20] <perhapstired> By entries, do you mean the left sidebar that's scrollable
[01:20] <perhapstired> ok one sec ill look at apps
[01:21] <zodiak> and you want to run bitcoin you say ?
[01:22] <perhapstired> yes
[01:22] <perhapstired> can't find it though
[01:22] <perhapstired> In what folder is apps supposed to be in?
[01:22] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  test the ISO files in VLC or mplayer.. no need to burn them
[01:22] <somsip> perhapstired: if you are not sure if it is installed, try this in terminal "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit"
[01:23] <perhapstired> software center claims its installed but ill try that. Also home folder has a folder tittled bitcoin 0.6.2 linux, but both the qt and bitcoind don't do anything when clicked
[01:25] <somsip> perhapstired: try running it in a terminal to see if you get errors
[01:26] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,  i will start with that.  but the real positive no doubts it works test will be in my DVD player.    Right now the only thing keeping me in Windows is Video and DVD creation.   i have learned how to use KdenLive  so if i get my dvd creation down like i want. then i can officialy say good bye to windows. :-)
[01:26] <ampd> perhapstired: did youmake them executable?
[01:27] <skraito> hi all
[01:27] <Hatori> hi skraito
[01:28] <perhapstired> sorry I'm stuck on trying to get somsip's recommendation to work. How do I get the vertical line from "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit" inside the command line ubuntu?
[01:28] <perhapstired> I can't seem to copy it from the browser to the command line...
[01:28] <somsip> perhapstired: depends on your keyboard. but try shift and the key below backspace
[01:28] <skraito> hanhua ahhh ure a tard
[01:28] <perhapstired> ampd, I'm not sure if I made it executable, how can I check that?
[01:29] <bazhang> !guidelines | skraito
[01:29] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   80% of the software i use in windows started as GNU/Linux software anyways.  Gimp, Pidgin, ect.  and yeah. they all work better in their native Linux environment. so when i can get everything i do in windows to work for me in Linux then windows is gone. :-)  that's the plan anyways.
[01:29] <skraito> bah same same people destroying freenode again
[01:29] <skraito> want me to get ban in here ?
[01:29] <Pierreb> is there a way to completely remove the sound drivers+configs and then reinstall them?
[01:30] <perhapstired> Somsip, thanks but the key below backspace is enter, surely that can't be right no?
[01:30] <perhapstired> I can't believe I'm stuck on the issue of having to apply spintax inside an Ubuntu virtualbox
[01:30] <MrGizmo757> Ubuntu is just far less annoying to use. so if i can get all my stuff working like i want then that's  it jack. i'm there. LOL!
[01:30] <somsip> perhapstired: as I say, it depends on your keyboard layout. Mine is clearly different from yours
[01:30] <Pierreb> somehow i managed to ruin it so either i have to do that or reinstall but i prefer to not reinstall since ive configured the os a ton
[01:30] <perhapstired> I'm so used to accessing a server and right clicking to copy and paste that this is such an unpleasant surprise
[01:31] <perhapstired> Is there any other way I could go about this without inputting spintax into the CLI?
[01:31] <zodiak> server.. copy and paste...
[01:31] <somsip> perhapstired: reinstall them
[01:31] <zodiak> oh mercy.. thank the gods I wore my corset, otherwise my sides would have split from laughter
[01:32] <bazhang> !behelpful | zodiak
[01:32] <perhapstired> stop splattering me with such ironies
[01:32] <Pierreb> anyone know if there is some software around that works like the windows remote desktop but for linux?
[01:33] <somsip> Pierreb: what os do you want to connect from, and which os do you want to connect to?
[01:33] <Pierreb> i want to use the local login+pw and get full access+screen of the machine
[01:33] <jrib> !vnc | Pierreb
[01:33] <Pierreb> somsip: mac os x
[01:33] <perhapstired> Thanks somsip, but I was hoping to keep this install
[01:33] <Pierreb> to ubuntu
[01:33] <somsip> perhapstired: no - just reinstall the bitcoin stuff
[01:33] <somsip> Pierreb: is that from MacOS or to MacOS?
[01:34] <Pierreb> from mac os (there is a rdp client from office) to ubuntu
[01:34] <Pierreb> i prefer to use that one if its possible
[01:35] <somsip> Pierreb: does this help? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[01:35] <Pierreb> somsip: ill check that out
[01:36] <somsip> Pierreb: clearly its a Win based tutorial, but the principle should be similar
[01:36] <jrib> Pierreb: also see ubottu's link
[01:37] <somsip> jrib: does VNC server suport RDP connections?
[01:37] <Pierreb> somsip: it works thanks alot
[01:37] <somsip> Pierreb: np
[01:41] <grokse> hi, i'm having a bit of an issue with byobu.  when i type "exit", it ends my session instead of just closing byobu and taking me back to the normal prompt.  any ideas?  i've had something similar before, but i killed "screen" and that fixed it.  when i do it here, it does the aforementioned closing of my session
[01:42] <grokse> ah, if i sudo and THEN kill screen, it closes byobu without ending my session.  weird
[01:42] <somsip> grokse: don't you have to detach rather than closing the session? Shift-F6 according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu
[01:42] <grokse> thanks, i'll take a look
[01:43] <grokse> i'm sure a killall command isn't the preferred method
[01:43] <somsip> grokse: I'm more used to tmux here, but ^D kills the session, whereas ^B-D detaches, so I guess its a smiliar idea
[01:44] <grokse> hmm, shift-f6 just didn't do anything
[01:44] <grokse> thanks for the link though, i think it's helpful
[01:44] <somsip> grokse: ok - I don't think I can help more
[01:45] <grokse> thanks :)
[01:45] <grokse> i probably borked the keybinds myself
[01:58] <DLabz> hi, guys
[01:59] <WeThePeople> bi
[01:59] <WeThePeople> hi
[01:59] <DLabz> Lookig for a way to have my portable field boxes mantain persistant connections server in the office
[01:59] <Skapare> is there a way to avoid daemons auto-starting when doing an apt-get upgrade inside chroot?
[02:00] <zodiak> DLabz, you are going to have to give more than that
[02:00] <zodiak> what are you looking for solution wise ?
[02:01] <DLabz> zodiak: I have two requirements: 1. reconnect to wireless if connection drops
[02:01] <somsip> Skapare: one source, so you may want to find more evidence that this works - http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/
[02:01] <DLabz> if internet, reverse-ssh to home server
[02:02] <zodiak> DLabz, bleurgh .. openvpn instead of ssh :)
[02:02] <zodiak> DLabz, which will also take care of reconnection
[02:02] <DLabz> thanks zodia
[02:02] <DLabz> zodiak\
[02:02] <DLabz> damn
[02:02] <zodiak> all good :)
[02:03] <DLabz> oh, can a openVPN server work on windows machine?
[02:03] <zodiak> yup
[02:03] <DLabz> perfect
[02:03] <DLabz> thanks a bunch
[02:03] <zodiak> np
[02:05] <Ramtron> Hello!
[02:05] <zodiak> hey :)
[02:05] <Ramtron> How do we register nicks again?
[02:05] <somsip> !nickserv | Ramtron
[02:05] <somsip> ah
[02:05] <Ramtron> !nickserv | Ramtron
[02:06] <Ramtron> knows nothing about nickserv it says ;o
[02:06] <somsip> Ramtron: clearly. I forget the command. Oh well, worth a try
[02:07] <xangua> !register | Ramtron
[02:07] <somsip> xangua: thanks
[02:07] <Ramtron> !register | Ramtron
[02:11] <Skapare> somsip: is that "cat < /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" command really correct on that page you gave?  the file does not exist
[02:11] <frybye> hi - in an attempt to get a d-link usb wlan stick to work under 12.04 I accidentally deleted my blacklist.conf - what can I do to get one (-made automatically or whatever?)
[02:11] <frybye> - and yeah - I had overlooked to make a backup first...
[02:11] <somsip> Skapare: that's why I suggested you second-source it. It's not on an official wiki or site I know, and only has one comment to say it works
[02:12] <Skapare> somsip: seems to be incorrectly coded for the apparently purpose of creating that file
[02:12] <zodiak> frybye, I suspect that there maybe one on the install/live cd/usb you used
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: the cat is reading the file that does not exist
[02:13] <somsip> Skapare: just sudo vi then file then.
[02:13] <frybye> zodiak - months of updates since then.. does that matter...?
[02:13] <zodiak> well.. I don't know what else you also blacklisted :\
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: I don't understand what needs to be done
[02:13] <frybye> zodiak how do I get this blacklist.conf out of the cd???
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: is it supposed to create this file?
[02:14] <somsip> Skapare: create the file with the contents on the webpage using whatever method you know how to use. Or second-source a similar solution
[02:14] <frybye> zodiak: there was a whole load of stuff in the file...
[02:14] <Skapare> which contents?
[02:14] <Skapare> the part starting from #!/bin/sh ?
[02:14] <somsip> Skapare: between cat and EOF
[02:15] <Skapare> OK, so it is normal for this file to not exist ... I create it ... run the apt-get stuff ... remove it when done
[02:15] <Skapare> + the chmod
[02:16] <somsip> Skapare: it suggests that from the webpage, but I suggest you second-source conformation of this solution
[02:16] <zodiak> frybye, boot off of the cd/usb into a live session, look in the /etc of the live system, if you find one, then mount your hard drive, cp it across
[02:16] <Skapare> what do you mean by "second-source conformation" ?
[02:17] <frybye> zodiak: ok thanks for the info - have a good one...
[02:17] <somsip> Skapare: find another site that confirms that this is a solid solution
[02:17] <Skapare> OH, OK ... I'll google for that filename, then
[02:18] <somsip> Skapare: best to be safe if it's not clear what the repercussions may be
[02:18] <j-admin> Boo.
[02:19] <aniasis> I am having a problem
[02:19] <j-admin> ._.
[02:19] <plaxi5n355> hey folks, im on opensuse 12.1...Any remote desktop client you would recommend that would be cross platform (I have another pc running ubuntu and one Centos).
[02:20] <aniasis> when I make a call to reboot I get the following output... Usage: /etc/init.d/reboot start|stop
[02:20] <plaxi5n355> want to control the ubuntu and centos from my opnsuse laptop
[02:20] <tables_> how do i remove ssh from startup?
[02:21] <plaxi5n355> tables_, I think its somewhere in your /etc/init.d configuration...google it up for exact conf file
[02:21] <zodiak> plaxi5n355, vnc
[02:21] <Skapare> somsip ... looks like this is confirmation ... http://serverfault.com/questions/29544/how-do-i-stop-ubuntu-from-starting-daemons-ive-not-explicitly-asked-to-run
[02:21] <plaxi5n355> zodiak, thanks buddy...just realized im on ubuntu channel
[02:22] <zodiak> plaxi5n355, meh.. it's all the same when it comes to things like that ;)
[02:22] <Skapare> some OTHER suggestions people make involve causing daemons to not run at next boot up ... but I think this might work ... I'll add it to my script and see
[02:23] <tizzard> hello, i have recently upgraded my computer to ubuntu 12.04
[02:24] <tizzard> how do i go about changing the color theme of the system
[02:25] <plaxi5n355> zodiak, right...just couldn't find a lazy install on Yast :-)
[02:26] <somsip> Skapare: yep - a bit old, and it does explain the pitfalls
[02:26] <zodiak> platschi, it's probably under one of the million of splinter packages. tightvnc, xtightvnc, realvnc, ultravnc, etc etc
[02:27] <zodiak> I think there was like 20 at least countl http://ipinfo.info/html/vnc_remote_control.php
[02:28] <j-admin> so what os do you guys prefer?
[02:28] <somsip> !poll | j-admin
[02:28] <Stanley00> tizzard: please take a look at /usr/share/themes
[02:29] <tizzard> ahh thank you sir *salut*
[02:30] <j-admin> i'm not asking for the best one, just which ones you guys prefer. i haven't used all of them so i'm curious about their differences
[02:31] <DoctorTruth> I have an I-phone and can no longer use the I-Tunes on my laptop cause I got rid of windows and am using Ubuntu just like on my desktop but I want to know if there is a program that will work in transfering music to the Iphone 4S. Anyone know
[02:32] <ging> oh help me quick
[02:32] <ging> how do i stop apt unintalling everything?
[02:32] <zodiak> ging ctrl-c
[02:32] <ging> just removed python 2.7 by mistake
[02:32] <ging> won't stop
[02:32] <ging> ctrl c won't stop it
[02:32] <zodiak> ctrl-z to background it and then kill %+
[02:33] <zodiak> if that doesn't work (which would be shocking) you will have to open another terminal and ps auxfw | grep -i apt and then kill -15 the process-id
[02:34] <zodiak> j-admin, any of them, all of them, whatever
[02:34] <Nautilus> First time doing this.... after installing a clean 12.04 system (I had 10.04) I want to copy in my filezilla site listing.  I know theres a hidden folder in my home folder, but am unsure what to copy... just sitemanager.xml ?
[02:34] <zodiak> I am a pragmatist. I use whichever one gets the job done/work requires me to use
[02:34] <MrKeuner>  #android
[02:35] <ging> thanks zodiak
[02:35] <zodiak> ging np
[02:35] <ging> in the end i managed to get it will killall apt
[02:36] <ging> clearly didn't get it in time
[02:36] <ging> my desktop has just come apart
[02:38] <elky> ging, which desktop were you using?
[02:38] <j-admin> ouch
[02:38] <ging> i am hoping installing ubuntu-desktop will put everything back
[02:38] <ging> elky: unity
[02:38] <elky> yes, that should
[02:39] <ging> i had not expected removing python to start eating my desktop
[02:39] <ging> i was trying to run python 3
[02:39] <elky> It happens when much of your desktop is written in python ;)
[02:39] <elky> you can have multiple versions of python installed.
[02:39] <elky> you don't need to remove one first
[02:40] <ging> yeah i had 3 installed but i was trying to make idle run in python 3 and it wasn't so though i'll just uninstall the others
[02:40] <Skapare> somsip: running the script with that "thing" in a fresh instance now ... should see in a few minutes
[02:42] <grantgalitz> uh... Why are there 3 flood bots?
[02:43] <eamon> so that if one of them starts flooding the other can kick it out
[02:43] <grantgalitz> uh
[02:43]  * grantgalitz grabs popcorn and waits for the race condition specified here.
[02:44] <Skapare> grantgalitz: it's like a field goal in football ... it takes 3
[02:44] <Skapare> US footbal that is
[02:45] <Relondo> I installed Mint alongside Ubuntu and Windows 7, and the installation completed successfully, I can see the new partition and everything, but I can't boot to Mint from the GRUB. Help?
[02:46] <IdleOne> !mint
[02:46] <Relondo> IdleOne: This is not a Mint question; this is a general linux question. The problem, would, I'm sure, be the same with any other distro, an ubuntu derivative, or another version of Ubuntu entirely.
[02:47] <IdleOne> Relondo: This is clearly a mint question but lets assume you are right and it is a general linux question you can try ##linux. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Thank you.
[02:47] <eamon> Relondo ask in #grub
[02:47] <Relondo> eamon: Thank you.
[02:48] <MadEchidna> hi, can someone explain to me what the "legacy" AMD driver is and where I get it?
[02:49] <MadEchidna> been googling and googling and all I see is vague references to it
[02:49] <jagginess> MadEchidna, legacy means for old hardware that arent supported anymore by amd..
[02:49] <MadEchidna> well I tried to install the latest catalyst and it seems that mine is now considered "old"
[02:49] <MadEchidna> even though it worked in the last one
[02:49] <MadEchidna> os[Linux 3.5.0-15-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 740  @ 1.73GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 933MHz] mem[Physical: 5.8GB, 76.4% free] disk[Total: 189.4GB, 90.7% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[02:49] <FloodBot1> MadEchidna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <jagginess> MadEchidna, then check amd's README
[02:49] <MadEchidna> that was one line >_>
[02:50] <MadEchidna> I did it doesn't make any mention of which cards are and are not supported
[02:50] <jagginess> MadEchidna, well it does..
[02:50] <MadEchidna> where is the readme then? all I got was a PDF manual that did not
[02:52] <const_antine_> I've been told that du doesn't count hidden files/directories size toward their parent directory size, yet in practice it seems du still does it
[02:52] <MadEchidna> see for yourself jagginess, there is no list of supported cards here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/embedded/Pages/embedded_linux.aspx
[02:52] <jagginess> const_antine_, well read the manual.. because it always did and always will
[02:52] <MadEchidna> release notes links to the PDF I already read
[02:52] <rypervenche> -/away -all sleep
[02:53] <rypervenche> derp
[02:53] <jagginess> MadEchidna, embedded linux. You've got to be kidding me. Do you know what embedded linux is?
[02:53] <const_antine_> jagginess, i have, there isn't anything about hidden files in there
[02:53] <MadEchidna> >_>
[02:55] <const_antine_> furthermore i tried du --exclude='^\..*' that should've excluded all hidden files or at least some of them. output was identical to command w/o that key
[02:57] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me get it working in a multiseat setup?
[02:57] <eamon> what are seats?
[02:58] <sunnycorner> hi guys
[02:58] <tables_> how do i remoev a program from startup, using update-rc.d?   i need update-rc.d syntax
[02:58] <eamon> hi sunnycorner
[02:58] <sunnycorner> hi eamon
[02:58] <sunnycorner> its my first time here
[02:59] <Skapare> somsip: it worked !! ... I do suggest if people ask for this in the future, give them the serverfault link instead ... it doesn't have the command typos
[02:59] <|Anthony|> eamon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[02:59] <sunnycorner> i feel like eddie murphy wakes up in queens
[02:59] <eamon> welcome to #ubuntu (and IRC?) sunnycorner
[02:59] <somsip> Skapare: I just googled it for you. I don't know this stuff
[02:59] <eamon> :)
[02:59] <lcabreza> i have problems on pidgin-sipe
[03:00] <sunnycorner> got a question abt setting up pptpd on ubuntu
[03:00] <lcabreza> how do i make it permanent on export NSS_SSL_CBC_RANDOM_IV=0
[03:00] <const_antine_> nvm, du pattern isn't a reg.exp.
[03:00] <const_antine_> d'oh
[03:00] <sunnycorner> wondering if anyone could shed some light
[03:00] <somsip> tables_: something like "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove"
[03:00] <tables_> thx
[03:02] <zykotick9> tables_: using update-rc.d doesn't make much sense on ubuntu...
[03:02] <eamon> |Anthony| so each user has their own mouse cursor. Can they use the same screen? If so can one user close another's window?
[03:03] <sunnycorner> anyone could maybe point some direction for me
[03:03] <sunnycorner> much appreciated
[03:03] <eamon> sunnycorner state your problem and we'll be able to tell you if we can help or not
[03:03] <viewer> i got a usb wireless card to plug into my laptop since my  laptops wireless disconnects every 2 mintues, and it "erased" wlan0 before I even tried to install a driver or anything for the new one, and the make failed on the new wifi's drivers, is there any way to get my old card back?
[03:03] <sunnycorner> cooool
[03:03] <sunnycorner> hi eamon
[03:03] <sunnycorner> so
[03:04] <bazhang> !enter | sunnycorner
[03:04] <sunnycorner> i have a ubuntu 10.04 setup as vm on a xserver box
[03:04] <sunnycorner> sorry first time here, got it!
[03:06] <j-admin> ._.
[03:06] <sunnycorner> so i have this ubuntu10.04 setup on xserve box as a vm, i installed pptpd followed all the online instructions, made sure i have tcp 1723 and gre open to the box, but when i tried using iphone to pptp to the box, the syslog always show i stuck at the step of "GRE: Bad checksum from pppd"
[03:08] <sunnycorner> i posted a new thread in ubuntuforum but havent had much luck getting any responses, i did checked almost everything, pptpd options setup, ip forwarding etc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062333
[03:08] <Skapare> somsip: well you had the right thought to google ... I didn't when I did it (came up with unrelated stuff)
[03:09] <Skapare> somsip: once I had the info you found, googling that got more
[03:11] <SystemCrashOverR> Hey, anyone up for helping a newbie sort out some basic troubleshooting?
[03:12] <goddard> thats what this chanel is for
[03:13] <SystemCrashOverR> Perfect
[03:13] <WeThePeople> hi
[03:13] <SystemCrashOverR> So I'm running the latest Ubuntu, 64 bit. And running into issues all over the place
[03:14] <somsip> Skapare: yeah - all good
[03:14] <SystemCrashOverR> Trying to import music intro Rhythm box and then export to an Ipod, but whenever I drag and drop to the Ipod, nothing happens
[03:16] <SystemCrashOverR> Any suggestions?
[03:17] <roasted> hello!
[03:17] <SystemCrashOverR> Hey roasted
[03:17] <SystemCrashOverR> What's up?
[03:17] <roasted> In order to effectively DD a drive, does said drive have to be mounted? I was hoping to DD this Mac OSX hard drive to salvage the install (HDD is going bad) but I got to wondering, if it has to be mounted and read by the OS.... maybe that won't help me....
[03:18] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: what ubuntu versión¿ what iOS version¿
[03:18] <SystemCrashOverR> Latest. it's 12.04 right?
[03:19] <viewer> i'm trying to compile my wireless driver from source I downloaded, but i'm getting errors during the make.  Is it common to have go download some super old kernel version in order for it to match some drivers a few years old?
[03:19] <SystemCrashOverR> Also just wiped the iPod and reinstalled the IOS and iTunes, so they should both be the lastest as well
[03:21] <bradleyayers> hi
[03:21] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: well 12.04 doesn't support iOS6, it supports iO5 but not sure about 5.1
[03:22] <SystemCrashOverR> Ah, maybe that's why
[03:22] <bradleyayers> what's the best way to determine which package provides an executable
[03:22] <bradleyayers> such that i can install it
[03:23] <SystemCrashOverR> xangua: I tried installing gtkpod to help, but to no available
[03:24] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: more specific, the libimovile device shipped in ubuntu 12.04 only supports until iOS 5, gktpod, rhythmbox, banshee, all use libimovildevice
[03:24] <WeThePeople> i got shoutcast on my rhythmbox :)
[03:26] <scarrs> before I do a complete re-install (I broke my ubuntu) has anyone had a successful vmware workstation 9 install run smoothly on ubuntu 12.04.1?
[03:26] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, i use guayadeque. it does that too and i've found it to be a bit lighter on sys resources.
[03:26] <|Anthony|> i'll bbiab though
[03:27] <|Anthony|> that is in the repos too fyi
[03:27] <eamon> sunnycorner maybe you might have some luck asking in #xorg
[03:27] <usr13> viewer: What does lspci |grep ireless  #say?
[03:27] <grantg> ಠ_ಠ
[03:27] <WeThePeople> bbiab ??
[03:28] <eamon> be baack in a breathtakingly_short_time
[03:29] <eamon> WeThePeople ^
[03:29] <usr13> viewer: lspci |grep ireless   #Tell us what it says.
[03:29] <WeThePeople> thanks
[03:29] <sunnycorner> ok thanks eamon
[03:31] <eamon> sunnycorner: Eric, type /j #xorg to join #xorg
[03:36] <aniasis> I'm trying to initialize a set of environment variable on all users.  I added a bash script to /etc/profile.d/ but it isn't firing on all users
[03:37] <WACOMalt> Hi there, what user should my folders be set to if they are for FTP access?
[03:37] <WACOMalt> currently they are www-data, but they cannot be written to via ftp
[03:40] <tarcisio> hello, can someone help me with an especific makefile I'm having trouble?
[03:42] <minetruly> Hi there! I'm new, so please let me know if I make any mistakes.
[03:42] <mtelesha> minetruly: we all make mistakes so yeah you did :)
[03:43] <minetruly> mtelsha: thanks :)
[03:43] <minetruly> I'm trying to create a bootable USB stick with 12.04. I successfully moved the USB option to the top in BIOS, but I get the error message "Invalid or damaged Bootable partition."
[03:44] <WACOMalt> Can anyone tell me how to list all users on my system in terminal?
[03:44] <WACOMalt> and all groups
[03:44] <minetruly> I tried reformatting the USB drive to FAT and NTFS. I downloaded UNetBootin, which asked me to reformat to FAT32, which I did, but UNetBootin is failing to recognize the USB drive.
[03:44] <jhkier> hi guys - i'm hoping someone has a bit of apache undestanding and can give me a quick bit of advise...
[03:44] <minetruly> It suddenly strikes me I should try a different USB drive.
[03:45] <WACOMalt> dont use UNetBootin
[03:45] <minetruly> What should I use?
[03:45] <WACOMalt> its broken from all of my tests anyways
[03:45] <jhkier> hello - hoping someing can help me understand the difference between "Document Root" and "directory"... if i leave one blank my site still resolves...
[03:45] <seth69> Hello, how can i upload files and create folder with a user in vsftpd?
[03:45] <WACOMalt> theres one from pendrivelinux that is good
[03:45] <minetruly> pendrivelinux ? I'll try that.
[03:45] <jhkier> yes pendrivelinux is great
[03:46] <mtelesha> minetruly: I would look at the drive in sudo fdisk -l and see what it says
[03:46] <WACOMalt> theres a fork of unetbootin that I like even better, but pendrive should be good. I cant think of the name of the other one right now
[03:46] <minetruly> mtelesha: I'm currently running Windows 7.
[03:46] <minetruly> This is my first time installing Linux.
[03:47] <mtelesha> minetruly: Oh then what are you trying to get as an end result with the pendrive?
[03:47] <jhkier> minetruly: install is easy.. using is a bit of learning curve..
[03:47] <jhkier> mtelesha; i get it... its like a personal pc in your pocket.
[03:47] <minetruly> I want to try Ubuntu before I reformat my entire hard drive.
[03:48] <minetruly> (I'm fed up with Windows and willing to learn all sorts of things to use Linux.)
[03:49] <mtelesha> OK I would then use the wubi install it keep everything in the widnows drive and then you can simply delete it
[03:49] <minetruly> Do you still rec pendrivelinux?
[03:49] <mtelesha> minetruly: In windows defrag the drive then give wubi some space At least 30 gig and then try it out that way
[03:50] <minetruly> "wubi"?
[03:50] <jhkier> do any of you guys have experience (basic) with apache... i'm just curious about the format of sites enabled files.
[03:50] <mtelesha> no just download ubuntu .iso and then mount the iso in windows with whatever iso client you want
[03:50] <minetruly> OK, downloading Wubi
[03:51] <minetruly> I don't have to erase any of what's already on my PC's boot drive, do I?
[03:52] <mtelesha> minetruly: nope not at all. Or you could just get the .iso and virtualize it with openbox to give it a spin
[03:52] <minetruly> I like the hard drive solution. Part of what I'm testing is its speed.
[03:52] <jhkier> minetruly: if you've never done linux before, easist I have found is http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[03:52] <mtelesha> I personally tell anyone going Linux to dual boot. I have found windows to come in hand manytimes for different things.
[03:52] <codepython777> how do i run a find command to find all .txt files and then copy all of them into a /tmp/txt folder?
[03:52] <minetruly> Thank you jhkier
[03:53] <jhkier> very simple windows program that creates it for you and ads a persistant
[03:53] <jagginess> use vmware/virtualbox.. it's the best way to go.. all it needs is an .iso
[03:53] <minetruly> Oh yes, when I install it for good I'll keep the ability to dual boot.
[03:53] <Nosophorus> does this channel answer questions about MATE?
[03:53] <minetruly> I just thought you had to reformat the hard drive to do that.
[03:53] <mtelesha> codepython777: find ~/ -name *.txt
[03:53] <mtelesha> then just pipe it into cp
[03:53] <jagginess> Nosophorus, not sure, but i know there's a command called MAN! :)
[03:54] <jnm> Hello, I think that ubuntu should have gparted preinstalled.
[03:54] <minetruly> jhkier, what's up with these sites?
[03:54] <codepython777> mtelesha: i want the files to have the same name in /tmp/txt directory
[03:54] <jagginess> minetruly, if you want to jump on the wagon, BACKUP YOUR DATA. then try to use gparted live cd (not sure if the latest ubuntu installer can resize ntfs)
[03:55] <jhkier> mintetruly: you were trying to get linux on usb? this thing will basically created bootable for you one touch button.
[03:55] <mtelesha> jagginess: ntfs is not a problem but wubi is great and I would just use that
[03:56] <Smackbook> can someone explain to me the concept of "blacklisting drivers"
[03:56] <jagginess> mtelesha, wubi you say? pff.. that install a loopback file on top of ntfs. (see wikipedia)
[03:56] <minetruly> OK, trying LiLi, and will also see how wubi works once my disk's done defragging
[03:57] <jhkier> anyone konw much about apache?
[03:57] <Guest19150> hey guys. i was trying to enable sharing on a folder for the first time, so ubuntu was going through the motions installing samba. all of a sudden something mentioning "pam" wanted to be installed, and i accidentally clicked cancel
[03:57] <Smackbook> i just found a source code for a driver that will compile, but at the end of the instructions it says to "blacklist the old driver" what could happen if I skip this step?
[03:57] <jagginess> yeah.. wubi is great.. but only for checking out ubuntu imho.. I wouldnt use it as a permanent linux..
[03:57] <Guest19150> was this a bad idea? how on earth do i fix this? what package was it?
[03:57] <mtelesha> jagginess: well personally I just use 2 drives but I have done several wubi installs and they work fine
[03:58] <scarrs> jhkier: what do you wanna know?
[03:58] <jagginess> mtelesha, I don't know if multiple wubi's can be installed. but they're all "loopback" files on ntfs.
[03:58] <Gnea> !apache | jhkier
[03:58] <mtelesha> Will123: Just do the install pam
[03:58] <mtelesha> Will123: sudo -apt-get install pam
[03:58] <jhkier> scarrs: well im trying to understand what the sites enabled files mean..
[03:59] <Will123> mtelesha: thanks, i'll give that a go :)
[03:59] <minetruly> OMG, LinuxLive is awesome. It automatically displayed all the ISO's on my computer!
[03:59] <jhkier> scarrs: ie what is the 'document root' and what is...directory...
[03:59] <Will123> mtelesha: pam's not a package, unfortunately
[03:59] <Will123> so that's a non starter
[03:59] <jhkier> i've left out directory before and still seems to work fine.. but all docs say repeat /var/www etc.
[04:00] <mtelesha> minetruly: Also backup should be a daily thing. But make sure you have it done
[04:00] <scarrs> jhkier: documentroot is the actual dir where the pages will be served...
[04:00] <jhkier> i started to guess that given it won't work without.
[04:00] <jhkier> What about directory?
[04:00] <Will123> mtelesha: new plan-  purge samba and start over
[04:00] <scarrs> not sure about that one :)
[04:01] <mtelesha> Will123: you don't have to do that
[04:01] <minetruly> Shoot, I don't have regular backup set up.
[04:01] <jhkier> gnea: why !Apache
[04:01] <minetruly> Just booting from USB can't be much of a risk?
[04:01] <rgenito> *sigh*, unfortunately... my connecting and disconnecting continues with this wireless driver on ubuntu 12 ;(
[04:01] <Will123> mtelesha: what would be a better solution?
[04:01] <mtelesha> Will123: but you can if you want I guess
[04:01]  * rgenito should report a bug to ubuntu...
[04:01] <Will123> mtelesha: looks like it wanted to install libpam-smbpass
[04:02] <Will123> that was the special package
[04:02] <jhkier> scarrs: its odd... like everyone seems to follow the rule of repeating their document root in the directory section... but i don't really get it.
[04:02] <scarrs> jhkier: altho I have been using apache for 10+ years
[04:02] <mtelesha> Will123: you can always just do the apt-get install saba-client and it will reinstall
[04:02] <scarrs> jhkier: I would just leave it blank
[04:03] <Will123> mtelesha: i'll try that next time i accidentally click the wrong button :p
[04:03] <Will123> thanks :)
[04:03] <Will123> it wants me to restart my session - thanks again! bye
[04:03] <mtelesha> Will123: personally I would use the commandline and apt-get for installing things. Much better output of what's going on
[04:04] <jhkier> scarrs: well i have noticed that nothing seems to break  - no mater what you put in there. but its a small file, so ifugred everything in sites-enabled would be important
[04:04] <mtelesha> minetruly: well I use crashplan (It works for windows and linux for backupos)
[04:04] <minetruly> crashplan, you say?
[04:05] <scarrs> jhkier: you're on the right track bro ;)
[04:05] <scarrs> (ain't apache fun)
[04:05] <mtelesha> minetruly: yeah its unlimited and cost $5 or free for a year if you switch from carbonite :)
[04:05] <jhkier> i kind of figured it would be much more sophisticated... or perhaps I'm just an idoit.
[04:05] <mtelesha> minetruly: I have a home server and I just put all my files on the server then they are also backed up to crashplan
[04:06]  * jhkier certainly can't spell or type today
[04:06] <scarrs> jhkier:  nah, simple as pie :)
[04:06] <minetruly> That sounds like a good option. I guess while I'm fiddling with Linux, it's time also to set up a daily backup.
[04:06] <scarrs> just leave your config files alone unless you're using a differnt dir to serve from
[04:07] <scarrs> jhkier: and then you only have to change "documentroot" and serverroot
[04:09] <MACscr> whats the lightest weight desktop environment for ubuntu? I literally just need to be able to run a browser and terminal in it for monitoring a few things. Other than that, the system is a file server
[04:09] <MACscr> well, file and media server
[04:10] <scarrs> MACscr: try fluxbox
[04:10] <minetruly> Crashplan doesn't look free.
[04:10] <codepython777> is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)
[04:10] <jhkier> that is kind of my intent... i was just curious given when i first created the file sites-enabled/mysite it changed the documentroot and was weirded out that directory was still pointing elsewhere.
[04:10] <shantorn> crashplan is free for local non cloud backup
[04:11] <MsTeshi> Hi
[04:11] <thomi> Does anyone know how I can tell apt-get to install the latest version of package X from the main archive if I have a newer version of the same package installed locally?
[04:12] <minetruly> shantorn, thanks!
[04:13] <shantorn> i use it every day, i back up from box a to box b's storage drive, been doing it for a bout a year
[04:13] <shantorn> minetruly, you can op to pay for cloud storage but meh
[04:14] <KTG5150> Hey I just need a quick answer
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> ok, trying to do a proof-of-concept dhcp/dns server project, where i have a box with two network interfaces, eth0 [internet facing] eth1 [private facing], i have it setup, and it works, providing
[04:15] <s0nee> i'm trying to install the nvidia driver downloaded from the nvidia page, but it requires nouveau to be disabled. How do i do that?
[04:15] <fut> Im using Ubuntu 8.04 due to hardware restrictions. Don't care to hear about how 2d is better and handles B.S., etc.. wondering why 8.04 can't handle torrent files?
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> cable modem :: router :: server :: my machine
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> but as soon as i get rid of the router, my machine doesn't get internet
[04:15] <fut> Anyone know how I can add the capability into firefox (older version due to old OS)?
[04:16] <flyinprogramer> any idea why ?
[04:16] <minetruly> OK, so the software won't stop working after 30 days, it'll just stop cloud access.
[04:16] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?
[04:16] <flyinprogramer> because the server still has the internets
[04:17] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?
[04:18] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNS server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address? Just "nameserver 8.8.8.8"?
[04:19] <s0nee> KTG5150: isn't it /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:19] <rgenito> usually that's what i put
[04:19] <rgenito> and s0nee is right on the file
[04:19] <KTG5150> s0nee: No the system overwrites it if it is placed there
[04:19] <KTG5150> Anyway
[04:20] <KTG5150> I just want to know what to put be4 the server address?
[04:20] <mtelesha> minetruly: No its $5 a month, but it saves you if you have a fire or theft
[04:20] <s0nee> KTG5150: nameserver <ip>
[04:20] <KTG5150> KK ty
[04:22] <cowsquad> ? is there any way to edit the list of booting options on the start window in ubuntu?
[04:22] <KTG5150>  Im havin so much trouble trying to set up pptpd I might just go back to 11.04
[04:22] <KTG5150> :/
[04:22] <cowsquad> like i have dev/sda6 twice in normal mode and recovery
[04:22] <jagginess> cowsquad, ?
[04:23] <cowsquad> jagginess like when you start ubuntu, it gives the list of OS that you have installed in your Pc. Is there any way to edit those
[04:23] <segv> Anyone have a macbook/macbook pro and a thunderbolt display working with 12.xx
[04:23] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: Are you asking how to get rid of the recovery mode entry?
[04:24] <s0nee> cowsquad: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:24] <jagginess> cowsquad, update-grub2<enter> updates the grub.cfg file--
[04:24] <Jordan_U> s0nee: cowsquad: Edits to /boot/grub/grub.cfg will be lost whenever there is a kernel upgrade.
[04:24] <jagginess> segv, no that's a wip.. for the #kernel hackers..
[04:25] <cowsquad> thank you guys
[04:25] <segv> okay cool so its just display port for now?
[04:25] <segv> stupid thunderbolt displays
[04:25] <segv> bah
[04:25] <jagginess> segv, i've read of limitted success. it's not prime time ready.. it's trial and error
[04:25] <segv> ah, i've heard
[04:25] <segv> if its plugged in when you boot, it works
[04:25] <segv> if it's not, you're effed
[04:26] <jagginess> segv, well ask on a mailinglist.. it's not primetime dude. (otherwise i would of say so! :)
[04:26] <segv> I figured it wasn't primetime, wasn't expecting that lol
[04:26] <segv> If it works shittily i'll be happy
[04:26] <akis> any idea why at xubuntu 'elementary xfce dark' cannot give an icon to *.ods files?
[04:27] <jagginess> it's a kernel project.. so not a ubuntu one.. it has nothing to do with a linux distro
[04:27] <s0nee> Jordan_U: TY for the info
[04:27] <Jordan_U> s0nee: You're welcome.
[04:28] <cowsquad> another question. Is this chat only for question regarding ubuntu 12.04 or any version
[04:28] <jordanm> Jordan_U: we need to stay in serperate channels :P
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Jordan_U: But it's not confusing at all!
[04:29] <jagginess> ^ i think he meant the little 'j'ordan lol
[04:29] <s0nee> lol youre talking to yourself
[04:29] <KTG5150> Loooo
[04:29] <KTG5150> Loooool*
[04:29] <KTG5150> So anyway
[04:30] <KTG5150> Will some1 be willing to help me troubleshoot my pptpd issues tommorrow about this time?
[04:30] <jagginess> cowsquad, there's too many variants i guess why it's best to say only "ubuntu" (not xubuntu/kubuntu, etc..) but alot of people still use <12.04 ubuntu
[04:31] <jordanm> Jordan_U: that was over everyone's head
[04:31] <jagginess> cowsquad, so if you use xubuntu, it would be best to ask on #xubuntu :/
[04:32] <rabbi1> ibus not showing input method languages newly installed .... how to solve this ? :(
[04:32] <KTG5150> Lol I got it, I just chose not to respond
[04:33] <linocisco> who is using glpi on ubuntu server?
[04:36] <MACscr> i just installed lxde. How can i have it automatically load it it without restarting the pc? I dont think synergy works at the login prompt, so i cant just login/logout unless i can somehow bypass the actual login screen =P
[04:36] <MACscr> suggestions?
[04:37] <teddote> who is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another
[04:41] <|Nordom|> I installed android SDK, its located in /usr/bin/android-sdk  <----- but when I try to access via terminal I cannot. CD /usr/bin doesnt work same with ~/android-sdk ... I am not sure what I am should be doing please help!
[04:42] <jordanm> |Nordom|: shell commands are case sensitive. /usr/bin is an odd place to put a directory
[04:43] <|Nordom|> thats where apt-get install sent it =/
[04:43] <|Nordom|> I found the files via file manager too so I know its there
[04:43] <jordanm> |Nordom|: how did you determine that?
[04:43] <jordanm> |Nordom|: dpkg -L <package you installed>
[04:45] <teddote> wut this haCker paradise in and out in and out no one talks
[04:45] <teddote> lol
[04:45] <|Nordom|> jordan: here is my output http://pastie.org/4795474http://pastie.org/4795474
[04:45] <|Nordom|> http://pastie.org/4795474*
[04:45] <|Nordom|> gah without the *
[04:45] <teddote> who is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another
[04:46] <jordanm> |Nordom|: Error 503 Service Unavailable - pick a different pastebin site
[04:48] <aniasis> has anyone installed oracle on Maverick
[04:49] <jordanm> 11g?
[04:49] <malkauns__> in byobu how do i change the escape key from ctr+a to something else, the config doesn't seem to save my change
[04:50] <john_doe_jr> How do I use the cut command to get a substring of a file name?
[04:50] <minetruly> Thank you everyone who helped me! I'm now running Ubuntu from a USB drive. (I'll try wubi after I've set up crashplan.) It's very fast. It scares me.
[04:51] <rgenito> minetruly, :)
[04:51] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't use cut. show your example input and expected output
[04:51] <aniasis> jordan11g XE
[04:51] <somsip> minetruly: if you enjoy ubuntu, I'd suggest skipping wubi and going straight to a dual boot. Wubi is good for a try out, but may not add anything to your experience theat the USB already has
[04:51] <aniasis> jordan 11g XE
[04:51] <blast_hardcheese> john_doe_jr: What's the pattern of the filename?
[04:51] <blast_hardcheese> john_doe_jr: There's probably a better way to do that
[04:51] <jordanm> especially if the shell is bash
[04:51] <minetruly> somsip, thank you, noted.
[04:52] <minetruly> Do you recommend a program for doing dual boot?
[04:52] <jordanm> grub?
[04:52] <Nordom> jordan: sorry d/ced http://pastie.org/4795496
[04:52] <jordanm> or you mean virtualization, like vbox?
[04:53] <somsip> minetruly: if you have a spare drive, just install and use it. If you need to re-partition, it can be a little more complex
[04:53] <jordanm> Nordom: that link doesn't work for me
[04:53] <jordanm> Nordom: it doesn't work for pagewash either: http://www.pagewash.com//nph-index.cgi/010110A/uggc:/=2fcnfgvr.bet/4795496
[04:53] <minetruly> It's on a laptop... I will research before repartitioning, but if you have a recommendation, I'll consider it.
[04:53] <john_doe_jr> phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump….I need just the 'phase3-backup-20120921010002' out of it
[04:54] <somsip> minetruly: it's long time since I dual-booted. And a long long time snce it was on a  laptop. Best to get some more up to date advice
[04:54] <mtelesha> minetruly: minetruly If you are doing one drive use http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/ and make 3 partitions for Linux after you shrink your windows partition then linux partitions / root /home /boot
[04:55] <s0nee> /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>/build is missing. Which folder in /usr/src should I make a link to build ? linux-headers ? linux-source ?
[04:55] <minetruly> somsip: OK. That's a few days in the future, anyway.  Thanks!
[04:55] <somsip> minetruly: np
[04:55] <mtelesha> minetruly: then you install ubuntu to the three or you can make just two partitions of windows and then have ubuntu use the rest of the drive nad it makes one partition I believe
[04:55] <minetruly> mtelesha, I was hoping to thank you for all your advice earlier! Thank you!
[04:56] <mtelesha> minetruly: no problem almost all of us started at where yoy are
[04:56] <Nordom> jordanm: http://pastebin.com/Mj58j4My
[04:56] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know have an answer?
[04:56] <minetruly> :)
[04:57] <mtelesha> minetruly: but I would go with wubi or partedmagic and make 2 partitons shrink your windows one and give yourself 30+ gigs for linux and then just have ubuntu install into that 2nd partition
[04:57] <jordanm> Nordom: well... that's such a poor packaging job, its not even usable after installation. a) remove the package b) follow the upstream documentation using .tgz provided
[04:57] <mtelesha> john_doe_jr: might want to ask #bash
[04:57] <minetruly> Thanks again for all the help. I need to get to sleep; I'll pursue these other great suggestions tomorrow. This has been a great introduction to this friendly, knowledgable community!
[04:57] <john_doe_jr> k
[04:57] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: try 'basename'
[04:57] <Nordom> jordan
[04:58] <Nordom> how do I do that
[04:58] <mtelesha> minetruly: well everyone isn't so friendly :)
[04:58] <minetruly> mtelesha: .....thank you for the warning.
[04:59] <minetruly> I'll make sure to remember you fine folk!
[04:59] <jordanm> Nordom: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html
[04:59] <Jordan_U> minetruly: I think that the advice that you've been given on partitioning is entirely too complicated. I would just run Ubuntu's installer, which will walk you through partitioning (doing almost all of the work for you, and doing it right).
[04:59] <jordanm> Nordom: any further support should go to a android specific channel, as it will be venturing off topic for #ubuntu
[04:59] <MACscr> so my pc seems to be starting light-dm and gnome dm on boot and im running lxde. I should need the other two should i?
[05:00] <minetruly> I noticed Ubuntu had that.
[05:00] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: 'basename aa.dump .dump' gives me aa. maybe thats what youre looking for ?
[05:00] <mtelesha> minetruly: just make sure you google and man your questions before you ask :)
[05:00] <minetruly> But also, I'll be wanting to install other OS's to boot from.
[05:01] <minetruly> Believe me, for teh boot problem, I did! :) But yes, I know how annoying it is to get questions that Google could have answered.
[05:02] <minetruly> Thanks again! G'night!
[05:02] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: well basename phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump just gives me the file name back
[05:03] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: you need to include ".dump" as the second argument
[05:04] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: awesome that worked!
[05:07] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: also 'echo aa.dump | cut -d. -f1' gives me aa. -d. means . is the delimiter, and -f1 means first field
[05:08] <jordanm> bleh
[05:09] <jordanm> foo="aa.dump"; echo "${foo%.*}"
[05:09] <jordanm> cut and a pipeline is not needed, and that will work in any POSIX shell
[05:09] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: ^
[05:10] <codepython777>  is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)
[05:10] <jordanm> also, instead of basename: "${var##*/}"
[05:11] <jordanm> codepython777: I recall ephiphany having some kind of local network p2p support
[05:11] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: jordanm ….I'm trying to do the following: http://pastie.org/4795558   look @ line 14…that is where it is messing up…any ideas how I can correct this?
[05:11] <jordanm> err, not ephiphany.. the default chat client
[05:12] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: that link doesn't work for me, or the pagewash proxy, try a different site
[05:12] <john_doe_jr> http://pastebin.com/gULDfPz5
[05:14] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't need basename
[05:14] <john_doe_jr> jordanm: how do I do it then?
[05:15] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: "${FILE_LOCATION%*.gz}"
[05:15] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't even need the function (which actually does nothing anyways)
[05:17] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: oh, wait, -d is the database name?
[05:17] <john_doe_jr> jordan: yes
[05:17] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: functions in bash can only return integers, so if you want them to provide data for use outside of the function, they need to modify a variable
[05:17] <Jordan_U> jordanm: Or you can capture stdout.
[05:18] <Nordom> I downloaded a .tgz how do I install it?
[05:18] <jordanm> that's true
[05:18] <jordanm> Nordom: follow the documentation, and ask #android
[05:19] <Nordom> #jordanm ... u know that ur lick says "You have succesfully install android-SDK" it doesnt give you any advice on HOW to fucking install it assumes u have
[05:19] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: getName() { fname="${FILE_LOCATION##*/}"; dbname="${fname%*.dump.gz}"; }; getName; psql -U postgres -d "$dbname" -f /Users/johnDoejr/Desktop/phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump
[05:19] <IdleOne> !language | Nordom
[05:20] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: also, () is only used on function definitions, not calling them. they are called just like any ordinary command
[05:20] <Nordom> well I just get annoyed when someone says go RTFM but the manual is not existant =/
[05:21] <jordanm> Nordom: IMO, the android documentation is quiet good in comparision to other programming documentation you will find out there
[05:21] <rabbi1> how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?
[05:22] <jordanm> Nordom: if you installed it, setup eclipse and move on
[05:22] <Nordom> Jordanm: good that it works for you, but for it says I have already installed it and this gives zero documentations on HOW to do it, I find it a bit lacking
[05:22] <IdleOne> Nordom: a .tgz of what?
[05:22] <jordanm> Nordom: step 2: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/adding-packages.html
[05:22] <john_doe_jr> jordanm: totally cofused by your post ..trying to sort it out
[05:22] <jordanm> IdleOne: android sdk
[05:24] <Nordom> IdleOne: Android-sdk .tgz, I tried installing via PPA, and it installed it to my /usr/bin folder and I couldnt really use it, Jordanm, advice I should remove the package and install that .tar.gz from androids website, I did do that, but do not know how to install it since it is a .tgz file
[05:24] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: http://pastebin.com/gNUNmyk2
[05:25] <Nordom> jordanm, I cannot get to that stage because I cannot install it
[05:25] <jordanm> IdleOne: the "package" he installed just put a zip file in /usr/bin
[05:25] <jordanm> Nordom: why not?
[05:25] <Nordom> or at least, asking what the commands are to install a .tgz I am assuming I need to extract it, but I am a nub to ubuntu so I am asking for help, and if u read up you would notice I asked that
[05:25] <jordanm> Nordom: isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the tarball?
[05:26] <somsip> Nordom: maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[05:26] <jordanm> Nordom: use the "tar" command or file roller (or w/e is the default for gnome these days)
[05:28] <Nordom> thank you somsip it exactly what I wanted, and jordanm you solution is to go read the manual isnt what I was asking either
[05:28] <somsip> Nordom: jordanm's answer was perfectly fine. I just googled it for you, that's all
[05:29] <Nordom> somsip, u solved the soltion on a whole, my orginal question is how to I install a .tgz which I have googled and the answer that I found were not cleared or for other formats
[05:30] <admas> Hello Expertees i am admas and i' from Ethiopia. and i want to be good programmer and network expert. thats why i choose ubuntu-linux. but i dont have any knowledge except some basic things ( i mean i have tried to study c++ before visual basic, html) but i didnt have resource like the internet and i am not sure i know anything. i jailbreak and unlock iphones that come from america and any other rich countries. i maintain computers ( like formatting and some
[05:30] <K350> What's the name of the tool used for customizing the plasma desktop - wallpaper and such? I've to open it from a terminal.
[05:30] <admas>  basic hardware issues) but i am sure if i get enough support i will be good computer guy. So any one who is concerned please help me. right here or on my email ady.niceboy@gmail.com thank u everyone.
[05:30] <jordanm> Nordom: to be clear, a .tgz is just like a zip file, you don't really "install" it, you just unpack it or in tar terms "untar"
[05:30] <somsip> !ask | admas
[05:31] <jordanm> Nordom: if its something that requires installation, you would use the files inside to perform the installation
[05:31] <jordanm> most often via compilation
[05:33] <admas> thank u guys! what do i have to install to compile c++ on ubuntu? it was borland, turbo on windows.
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Nordom: Asking generically "how do I install a tar.gz file" is somewhat like asking "how do I make brownies from a box of brownie mix". Tar.gz files are just containers, and their contents can be almost anything. If they contain software, about the only thing that you can be sure of is that they will have a file called "README" or "INSTALL" with further instructions.
[05:33] <jordanm> admas: gcc/g++. install build-essentials
[05:34] <Anona> How long does a mysql install usually take?
[05:34] <Anona> Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.63-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) ...
[05:34] <Anona> runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory
[05:34] <Anona> i've been stuck at this point for nearly an hour
[05:35] <RawgerNice> wake up big baby
[05:35] <jordanm> Anona: about 1min on modern hardware
[05:35] <Nordom> jordanm: I am sure you have tons of experience opening and installing in linux, as some one who has just recently started the process of getting from a to z insent always clear, I have extracted those files before but they did nothing. I was apprently suppose to extract them to where they are suppose to be. As a former windows user I rely on an install program to do that for me, so that thought
[05:35] <Nordom> process wasnt readily apparent.
[05:35] <somsip> Nordom: jordanm I thought we'd got a solution with the weblink there. Is a discussion still needed?
[05:35] <Anona> jordanm: so, uhh, if you'll forgive my noobness, how should i proceed :S
[05:36] <Nordom> also the readme doesnt contain installation process just says access it via this root
[05:36] <frybye> Hi - in 12.04 under additional drivers I am told that I have (after some trouble-) got the propr. rt2870STA driver installed and working but now with no network-manager (is uses some other system?) how do I access the settings to connect?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Nordom: In Ubuntu you almost never install things via tar.gz (or by going to any website at all), you search for them and install them via Ubuntu Software Center, (or via apt-get if you prefer the terminal instead of a GUI).
[05:37] <popsch> how can I use a hex password in nm-applet?
[05:37] <jordanm> somsip: I provided some more information I felt may be useful. I see no discussion
[05:37] <somsip> jordanm: fair enough. Just trying to get back OT...
[05:37] <Jordan_U> popsch: Is this for a WEP network?
[05:37] <popsch> Jordan_U, yes
[05:38] <frybye> btw- have no access to the net from withing 12.04 and so am using win7 to connect here now...
[05:38] <Jordan_U> popsch: You should be able to just enter the password as hex and nm will be smart enough to treat it as such. If you have any control over this network I highly recommend that you switch to WPA though, it will be both easier (passphrase rather than hex) *and* much more secure.
[05:38] <frybye> who is the duty ubuntu wifi guru online just now?
[05:39] <Nordom> jordanm: android-sdk is not on the software center, and I said earlier I tried to install via PPA and it installed it weird, thus I was forced to use a .tgz =/ But somsip guide to solve the problem
[05:39] <jordanm> Nordom: some software on the PPA is packaged well, but some of it is very poor, so you have to be careful what you use from PPAs
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Nordom: Just so you know, even though our nicks are similar, jordanm and I are two different people :)
[05:40] <IdleOne> Nordom: I suspect #andriod would be of much greater help, not to mention the fact that it is technically not supported in this channel.
[05:40] <IdleOne> #android sorry
[05:40] <jordanm> I get highlighted when someone says Jordan_U anyways :/
[05:41] <jordanm> problem for years now it seems like, in various freenode channels
[05:41] <popsch> Jordan_U, thanks, I'll try it and talk to them about WEP. I know the weaknesses of WEP, but they seem to want WEP over WPA so their old devices work better. *shrug*
[05:42] <Jordan_U> popsch: You're welcome, and good luck.
[05:42] <popsch> Jordan_U, btw. I dislike the automatic thing, is there a way to let nm-applet know that it's a hex key? there's no common prefix like 0x... ?
[05:43] <jordanm> popsch: WEP is always hex, so when you enter in WEP, its assumed
[05:43] <popsch> ok. will try
[05:43] <popsch> thanks.
[05:44] <fuzzman54> Can anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?
[05:45] <Anona> okay, i got the install to complete by ctrl-zing and starting the mysql service, but now
[05:45] <LarsN> any idea if/when we might see an ubuntu based settop box?
[05:45] <admas> never used linux. right from windows. what do i have to do to compile c++ in ubuntu?
[05:45] <Anona> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server
[05:46] <LarsN> admas: are you trying to compile the compiler, or just source code?
[05:46] <jordanm> Anona: you shouldn't use ctrl+z, that just suspends
[05:46] <jordanm> Anona: type "fg" and use ctrl+c
[05:46] <admas> source code
[05:46] <LarsN> admas: if you need compiler tools you might want to add "build-essential"
[05:46] <blackshirt> admas: linux has provided c/c++ compiler
[05:46] <LarsN> which includes a lot of libraries, and software development tools
[05:47] <Anona> jordanm: i had to suspend it because it was waiting for the mysql daemon to start
[05:47] <admas> alright let me try, will be back
[05:47] <Anona> so when i did fg, it proceeded smoothly
[05:47] <Jordan_U> admas: If it's just a simple "hello world" type application, then you can just do "g++ hello.cpp".
[05:47] <Jordan_U> admas: Then run your program with "./a.out".
[05:47] <fuzzman54> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/781378
[05:49] <fuzzman54> It was filed as a bug, but then invalidated.
[05:52] <fuzzman54> I really don't understand how IRC support rooms work. My idea was that it would be a faster way of getting support like I would from the forums.
[05:52] <LarsN> fuzzman54: as long as someone in the room knows how to help you solve your problem that may be exactly the case.
[05:54] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I don't have a system that can run Compiz handy or I'd go through your steps to reproduce.
[05:54] <LarsN> sorry :(
[05:54] <fuzzman54> So it's just that nobody knows how to help? It doesn't just take forever to get an answer?
[05:54] <somsip> fuzzman54: just depends on who is on here and how busy they are with other stuff
[05:54] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I haven't exactly seen a question, just a statement that your bug was marked invalid.  was there another question before that I missed?
[05:55] <fuzzman54> Okay. I thought maybe it was a wait-your-turn kind of thing.
[05:55] <somsip> fuzzman54: nope, and sometime you need !patience
[05:56] <fuzzman54> "Ca anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?"
[05:56] <jordanm> IRC user's can offer, but they generally can't fix bugs for you, unless its a simple configuration issue
[05:57] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I just maximized my terminal in Unity (default install of 12.10)  the top right corner is my power gear.
[05:57] <fuzzman54> The bug report isn't mine, I was just saying that I'm having the same issue as the person who filed it. I thought that since it was marked invalid, it wasn't actually a problem, but a misunderstanding on the person who filed the bug's part.
[05:57] <LarsN> fuzzman54: if I double click the right most open space on the title bar, it unmaximizes the window.
[05:58] <MACscr> if im running light-dm and lxde, can i remove gnome and unity?
[05:58] <LarsN> fuzzman54: you want it to actually close?
[05:58] <fuzzman54> Yes. I've switched the close,minimize, and resize buttons to be on the right.
[05:58] <LarsN> MACscr: is hard drive space at a premium?
[05:59] <MACscr> LarsN: not really, but its a server, so i just want to remove as much junk as possible
[05:59] <KM0201> MACscr: if it's a server, use ubuntu server, that will remove as much junk as possible
[05:59] <LarsN> MACscr: you might look at the ubuntu server install, and then just install light-dm and LXDE
[06:00] <KM0201> why do you even want a GUI on a server?
[06:00] <LarsN> MACscr: assuming you require the GUI at all, otherwise KM0201 is exactly right.  the Ubuntu-Server install doesn't include any of the userland gui software/tools
[06:00] <MACscr> well i already have it installed, thus why im asking =P
[06:00] <MACscr> but yes, i do require the gui as i do use the system to power my 4th monitor that i use to display some monitoring tools
[06:00] <KM0201> hmmm, seems a little odd to me, but.. ok
[06:01] <LarsN> MACscr: I've never tried this, so I can't promise it won't "Break Everything" (TM) but you could try to use apt to uninstall/remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <KM0201> i've only used Ubuntu Server for a home based NAS (torrents, media server, etc..) so I guess i can't really relate to what you're trying to do.
[06:02]  * LarsN has access to a "LOT" of Ubuntu servers.
[06:02]  * KM0201 wishes they had based OMV on Ubuntu Server.
[06:03]  * Calinou does not care.
[06:03]  * KM0201 thinks Calinou would care if he had a NAS
[06:03] <Calinou> lolNAS
[06:03] <Calinou> noone uses that
[06:04] <KM0201> sure.. lots fo people do.
[06:04] <LarsN> My NAS runs FreeNAS, but I'm a FreeBSD guy at heart.
[06:04] <KM0201> probably more people nowdays than ever (given the fact hard drives are such crap)
[06:04] <KM0201> LarsN: i liked FreeNas, until 8 came out, and it absolutely screwed me...
[06:04] <IdleOne> let's get back on topic please
[06:04] <Calinou> hard drive == NAS
[06:04] <Calinou> this doesn't solve the issue of throwing laptops around
[06:04] <KM0201> lol, hardly, but ok.
[06:04] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-offtopic has 5 free open slots for chatters
[06:05] <KM0201> lol
[06:05]  * Calinou is banned, try harder
[06:05] <MACscr> KM0201: its just my home server and i have 3 monitors connected to my hackintosh and then i have a 4th connected to the server. This way i can have a few things viewable on the 4th monitor at all times without affecting my other work on my main pc
[06:05] <IdleOne> Calinou: Don't make me have to ban you here also then :/
[06:05] <LarsN> MACscr: if you've got a virtualbox installation laying around, it might be a fun test to install light-dm and lxde, then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <KM0201> MACscr: i dunno, still doesn't make sense, why do you need a screen on a server at all?
[06:05] <LarsN> MACscr: I wouldn't try it on a host you were fond of first though.
[06:06] <MACscr> LarsN: why? its goign to tell me what its going to remove
[06:06] <fuzzman54> He uses it for keeping track of things visually with a monitor. He already said that.
[06:06] <LarsN> KM0201: I suspect it's part of a synergy pool, and "server" in kind of a loose sense of the term :)
[06:06] <MACscr> anyway, i already ran it and it removed just that single thing which was 54kb =P
[06:06] <LarsN> MACscr: sigh.
[06:07] <MACscr> and yes. im using synergy
[06:07] <LarsN> MACscr: I know installing Ubuntu-desktop adds virtually everything needed to take a server-install to workstion land.
[06:07] <LarsN> guess it's just a big meta package.
[06:07] <MACscr> that is correct
[06:08] <LarsN> if you've got backups, I suspect you can bomb gnome and unity.
[06:08] <KM0201> LarsN: if you can figure out how to uninstall all that other crap.. this command should do exactly what you want... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1884720
[06:09] <somsip> MACscr: I did this with desktop edition when I moved away from gnome, but ended up installing minimal install from scratch and just installing the WM I wanted. That pulled in all other dependencies. This may be an option for yu with the server edition?
[06:09] <LarsN> MACscr: ^ :)
[06:09] <KM0201> depending on if you know how to set it up again though, it might be easier to download ubuntu server, install it, then apt-get install lubuntu-core --no-install-recommends   and it will install almost nothing.
[06:12] <MACscr> i have way to many server tweaks going on to do a reinstall. Guess i will just have to remove things one by one
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> Right, I have a LAM stack running locally, with my prjects symlinked into /var/www but I keep getting  [Tue Sep 25 02:15:27 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0, when trying to access the files.
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> They're PHP files, if it matters (I'm sure it does)
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> I was following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www but haven't gotten very far.
[06:19] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, how the ownership of that files/folders?
[06:19] <rabbi1> how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?
[06:20] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: The actual files are owned by me, but have the group set to web-data as per the tutorial I was following.
[06:20] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, coomobly,dir/files under /var/www owned by www-data of apache server
[06:21] <Hayate> commonly
[06:21] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: Ummmm....I didn't quite get that?
[06:22] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: I only want to be able to edit/modify/update /var/www without sudo, my research led me to believe symlinks were the best option, but they're not working, not sure where to go.
[06:22] <Hayate> permission denied commonly caused by miss about ownership or permission bit
[06:23] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: So how do I fix it?
[06:23] <rpaliwal> what is the channel for pulseaudio?
[06:23] <Hayate> they dont change the /var/www maybe
[06:24] <eliteprodigy> I'm confused...
[06:30] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, you just need ensure,your apache have a access to them
[06:31] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: Okay, well the group on the home directory and the documents folder and the project folders are all set to "web-data" but I'm still receiving the error.
[06:45] <rabbi1> installed new language, and now my folder names are all in that language. how can i get back to default language ?
[06:47] <g00053> okay ubuntu geniuses , i've finally gotten desktop sharing to work. my question is ...how do i go about doing it from outside my LAN now ?
[06:49] <Kartagis> how do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?
[06:49] <Kartagis> g00053: port forwarding on your modem/router
[06:51] <Joebeezy10> hi
[06:55] <tom__> sup
[06:56] <Joebeezy10> nm u
[06:57] <foo357> Hello, I'm using 10.04 LTS and I have an issue with a package that doesn't seem to be available in the repository.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> foo357:wich package
[06:58] <Wizard> Hi.
[06:58] <foo357> lotuspsychje: libtermcap-devel
[06:58] <martini> : )
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> foo357:can you paste the error?
[06:59] <foo357> lotuspsychje: no unfortunately I cannot, this particular computer doesn't have a internet conntection. So I manage software installation through a tool called keryx.
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !info libncurses5-dev
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> foo357:try that package
[07:03] <coolen> coka
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> coolen:?
[07:04] <coolen> nothing
[07:04] <coolen> just fell14:57 -!- #ubuntu-ch 9 Ubuntu Switzerland, http://www.ubuntu-ch.org | Channel language: English, please! | For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者
[07:05] <coolen> --!
[07:05] <Wizard> :D
[07:05] <coolen> :)
[07:06] <coolen> it's quite
[07:08] <coolen> ⊙﹏⊙b
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !ot | coolen
[07:08] <coolen> ok
[07:11] <simion314> hi, none of mi microphone are working, i had them work before and after changing some settings in alsamizer now none of them work(rear or front ports)
[07:12] <simion314> i enabled them so they are not muted, I need some help please
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !jack | simion314
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> simion314:try to reset alsamixer maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068612
[07:13] <vartotojas> good morning guys. im having a problem with java. atm i think i dont have one, cause online games isnt working for me, so im looking for help how to donwload and install java
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !java | vartotojas
[07:15] <simion314> lotuspsychje: thx, i tryed reseting , that foruim is old, i used alsactl init      command
[07:17] <woodputerrepair> Anyone available to help with wireless USB network Device drivers?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:plz details mate
[07:19] <foo357> thanks for the help lotuspsychje
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> foo357: did it work?
[07:19] <foo357> lotuspsychje: yes I believe so
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> foo357: glad it helped mate i found it on a forum from LjL
[07:20] <woodputerrepair> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and using terminal, it found my usb device, but it won't let me use it. It just says "Disconnected", and won't let me connect.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:what brand is the usb device? did you install drivers?
[07:22] <woodputerrepair> Linksys RT8192 wireless usb device. And I haven't been able to find drivers for anything except windows.
[07:22] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: what the problems exactly is ?
[07:23] <woodputerrepair> device is disconnected and will not let me connect. It is grayed out.
[07:27] <woodputerrepair> Being a computer repair specialist. This is the first time I have had any problems with any versions of Linux. So I hope you can feel my frustration.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:did you add the usb device after installation?
[07:27] <auronandace> woodputerrepair: whats the issue?
[07:28] <ikonia> being a computer repair person has nothing to do with linux why is that even relevant
[07:29] <woodputerrepair> yes I did. It works great in windows, just not in linux.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:seems like my square mouse prob has fixed itself after an update, tnx again for the helps
[07:29] <ikonia> woodputerrepair: some network cards have no / little / poor linux support that maybe something you need to accept
[07:30] <auronandace> !yay | lotuspsychje
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:lol
[07:30] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: there are some driver for rtl818x series
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: that is rtl8180  rtl8187
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: but maybe it was not yours
[07:31] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: was it a kernel update, driver update?
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: maybe your card was in new release categories :D
[07:31] <woodputerrepair> mine is a rtl8192
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:i really dont know what fixed it, did nothing special myself
[07:32] <blackshirt> !info rtl8192
[07:32] <blackshirt> !info rtl8192 | woodputerrepair
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:i just pasted the bug few times in ubuntu-bugs
[07:32] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: what ubuntu release are you using now ?
[07:33] <woodputerrepair> newest and the greatest.
[07:33] <unimatrix9> test
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !test | unimatrix9
[07:34] <auronandace> woodputerrepair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek
[07:34] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: maybe this is help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433401
[07:35] <woodputerrepair> am looking right now...Be right back.
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:maybe this could help too: http://www.tuxamito.com/joomla/index.php/en/component/content/article/100-realtek-rt8192
[07:38] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: these series maybe on stagging step
[07:40] <amd> Hello
[07:40] <woodputerrepair> Hey gang, I'm back to report that I got the driver from RealTek and it is working. The system is now updating and it looks like it may take a little while. I very much appreciate the help in getting this system online.
[07:40] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: greats :d
[07:40] <blackshirt> amd: hello
[07:40] <BEJolley> hello
[07:41] <amd> I have a question about Linux Mint Maya can any body help me with that?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !mint | amd
[07:41] <BEJolley> How Are You?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | BEJolley
[07:42] <amd> Thanks
[07:42] <amd> wrong #
[07:43] <BEJolley> how are you
[07:43] <kernel2> I want to change my screen resolution with xrandr . i have VGA-0 but xrandr --newmode goes to HDMI-0 !
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> BEJolley:this is an ubuntu support channel mate, you have a question?
[07:43] <kernel2> how can i force xrandr to set my setting to VGA-0
[07:43] <blackshirt> amd: no
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | kernel2
[07:45] <kernel2> i have just one screen !
[07:46] <MarcoFe> hi guys
[07:47] <canadacow> morning
[07:47] <MarcoFe> A good prg to scan document on kde??
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !info skanlite | MarcoFe
[07:49] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: tnx :)
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe:software centre might know some more
[07:50] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: it's true :)
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe: apt-cache search scan kde
[07:52] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: ou yea
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:53] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: skanlite it's good for my purposes
[07:53] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: tnx so much
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe:glad it helped mate
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> MarcoFe: gimp, simplescan, xsane
[07:54] <MarcoFe> ActionParsnip: tnx but i'm using skanlite under lotuspsychje's suggestion
[07:56] <Guido1> hello, i want to instal a printer (brother DCP 110C resp 115C). I already downloaded and executed cupswrapperDCP110C-1.0.2-3.i386.deb and dcp110clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb . What have i to do know? The printer is a samba printer
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Guido1: pretty sure you need to Add A Network Printer
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> MarcoFe: searching software center will show you others too :)
[07:57] <Guido1> yes, but how do i add it?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: install them in the order they appear on the site, then mapt the printer
[07:58] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: "them"? it is one printer
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: them, you have TWO files. yes?
[07:59] <kernel2> Hello
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: then it's them, isn't it?
[07:59] <pox> hello
[07:59] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: yes, i have 2 files and instaled them
[08:00] <kernel2> How can use xrandr to force newmode on VGA-0 ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: then use the printers option in the cog menu and add the printer there
[08:00] <chraso> hi all
[08:00] <Guido1> cog menu?
[08:00] <chraso> need help on this error while "apt-get update"
[08:00] <chraso> Reading package lists... Done
[08:00] <chraso> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[08:00] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: i can't find the printer anywhere
[08:01] <cfhowlett> Guido1: search / add NETWORK printer if I'm not mistaken
[08:02] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: select to add a samba printer, then search
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: or type the IP or name of the other system and probe it
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: obviously set the firewall to allow the local traffic for printer sharing
[08:03] <Guido1> ActionParsnip:  i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: cool
[08:03] <Guido1> now i can click "next"
[08:04] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: but now i have the option "select from daterbase", "oppen ppd-file" and search for a programma
[08:05] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: so what is the next step?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: select from the installed drivers you have, then the driver should be available
[08:07] <mehrdad> how to install rmagick (ruby gem)???????????????????????
[08:07] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: you meen from the database?
[08:07] <ikonia> you can start by not doing ?????????????????????????
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: yes
[08:08] <desu> i was wondering if anyone could help me (im not sure if im in the right place) but i am having toubles booting up windows 7 from ubuntu
[08:08] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed :-(
[08:09] <mehrdad> hellooooooo everyone
[08:09] <ikonia> mehrdad: please stop that
[08:09] <mehrdad> how to install rmagick?
[08:09] <mehrdad> ok
[08:09] <ikonia> mehrdad: please just talk with normal words
[08:10] <mehrdad> ok sorry
[08:10] <desu> can anyone help me in figuring out how to boot window 7 from ubuntu?
[08:10] <ikonia> desu: you are aware you set that up in grub ?
[08:10] <desu> no
[08:10] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed
[08:10] <mehrdad> desu: grub update
[08:10] <ikonia> desu: Im assuming this is a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows installed ?
[08:11] <desu> i would like to dool boot, but im not sure ill be able to figure that one out
[08:11] <desu> dulal*
[08:11] <desu> dual**
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: have you got ubuntu and windows installed at the moment ?
[08:11] <desu> no only ubuntu
[08:11] <desu> i have the windows 7 disc though
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: ok - so here is how to do it easy
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: 2.) install ubuntu
[08:11] <ikonia> done
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: 1.) install windows
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: do it in that order and you'll have no issue
[08:12] <desu> it will not let me boot the windowd disc
[08:12] <desu> that is what i am trying to figure out
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: that's your disc/hardware
[08:12] <mehrdad> desu: simply
[08:12] <anon131313> desu: not hard to figure out. Look at your bios splash screen
[08:12] <desu> it a brand new disc though thats why im a little confused
[08:12] <mehrdad> desu: update-grub
[08:12] <ikonia> mehrdad: please read what he said
[08:12] <ikonia> mehrdad: he doesn't have windows installed
[08:13] <desu> so what would be the simplest way in me getting my windows disc to boot up?
[08:13] <anon131313> desu when your computer boots it will give you options like press f10 etc
[08:13] <ikonia> desu: this is nothing to do with ubuntu - take it to ##hardware or ##windows channel
[08:13] <desu> okay
[08:13] <desu> thank you
[08:14] <ikonia> welcome
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> desu:run ubuntu single on your hd, lose windows :p
[08:14] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: that's not what he asked for
[08:14] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: he asked for dual boot
[08:14] <mehrdad> ikonia: can i help me
[08:14] <ikonia> mehrdad: no
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: i know, we can suggest better ideas no?
[08:14] <mehrdad> ok
[08:15] <mehrdad> u
[08:15] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: it's not a better idea if he actually wants or needs windows,
[08:15] <ikonia> blindly ramming ubuntu down peoples throats and telling them to dump windows is unacceptable
[08:15] <s3b`> Hey I have a question.. just downloaded ubuntu and trying to get this damn icon working on the unity launcher
[08:15] <anon131313> ikonia why did you send desu away :(
[08:16] <d8bhatta> Hello, I have installed windows xp with vmware in linux and  tried to run my php based web application through xp. But i am getting error like You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected.
[08:16] <d8bhatta> i am neither seeing option to give write permission to the folders from xp. Help needed to solve the issue?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: do you mean the top left icon in dash?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: should be have a hunt. It may be at the bottom
[08:17] <ikonia> anon131313: because getting someones hardware to boot a windows CD is not an #ubuntu issue
[08:17] <s3b`> ActionParsnip I'm trying to create a shortcut on the launcher on the left, and all I'm getting is a springboard
[08:17] <ikonia> d8bhatta: what version of ubuntu are you running
[08:18] <d8bhatta> ikonia: 12.04
[08:18] <s3b`> my download came with an icons folder that i cp'd into usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48
[08:18] <ikonia> d8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?
[08:18] <s3b`> that's the last thing I've tried, and now it won't even show up >:[
[08:18] <Raji> Hello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?
[08:19] <s3b`> http://i.imgur.com/RoP5N.png
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: is it a custom launcher you made?
[08:19] <d8bhatta>  s3b`: yes, my php files are served from ubuntu
[08:19] <anon131313> ikonia now desu is probably going to mess up bootloader now though if listen to #windows isn't there ubuntu documentation on this issue that could have been pointed to
[08:19] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: already cheked that, but there it isn't
[08:19] <s3b`> ActionParsnip yeah I'm trying to get sublime text on the side
[08:19] <ikonia> anon131313: nope, not for booting a windows CD on his hardware, we don't document users hardware
[08:19] <d8bhatta> actually I have to run same appliaction from both linux and windows to test the stuff with different browsers of IE,..
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: can you pastebin the desktop file you made
[08:20] <s3b`> btw awesome screenshot feature :P
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?
[08:20] <s3b`> no problem
[08:20] <Raji> Hello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?
[08:20] <d8bhatta> ikonia:yes
[08:20] <d8bhatta> sorry..ikonia, php is installed in xp
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok, so you've got a 12.04 host serving a PHP application....the windows XP client gets a permisson denied problem, correct
[08:20] <ikonia> ?
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok - so Windows XP is serving PHP ?
[08:20] <anon131313> ikonia documentation for the dual boot with buntu installed first is what I meant. But I am sure you knew that
[08:21] <umad> Raji: Try Teamviewer
[08:21] <ikonia> anon131313: there is documentation for dual boot - not on how to boot a windows CD on his computer
[08:21] <d8bhatta> ikonia: yes, windows xp is servcing LAMP , only files are referenced to the location of ubuntu dir
[08:21] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok, then ##windows is the correct channel to get help in
[08:21] <s3b`> ActionParsnip Oh it's not showing anything now for some reason once i put it in /share/applications
[08:21] <ikonia> d8bhatta: the issue is with windows XP serving PHP
[08:22] <s3b`> but double clicking it still works
[08:22] <d8bhatta> ikonia: hmm...sounds good
[08:22] <s3b`> Oh wait
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: in /usr/share/applications I assume :)
[08:22] <s3b`> got it, and ActionParsnip yeah just getting lazy writing it out so many damn times :P
[08:22] <akis> hi all. any idea how can i clear my dashboard 'files'. activity-log-manager cannot clear this section. any other advise?
[08:23] <Raji> umad: I want to do without  the knowledge of client
[08:23] <s3b`> ActionParsnip http://hastebin.com/vililiveko.rb
[08:23] <ikonia> Raji: so you want to spy....
[08:24] <umad> Raji: Maybe this article helps you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[08:24] <x2q> :h
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: is line 11 ok, with the space in the filename? Could copy the icon to /usr/share/icons then reference it there without the spaces
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: also switch line 7 to read as the same icon filename
[08:27] <Raji> ikonia: i am admin and i w ant clients are doingwith the system
[08:28] <umad> SSH would be the easy way
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> and secure
[08:28] <ikonia> Raji: right, so you want to spy on your clients
[08:29] <ikonia> umad: ssh is not going to allow him to monitor the desktop
[08:29] <s3b`> ActionParsnip that'll do :)
[08:29] <s3b`> damn thanks!
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: sweet
[08:29] <Raji> ikonia: yes
[08:29] <s3b`> ActionParsnip looking back at it, that dir didn't even exist. I don't know why it was pointing there
[08:30] <Raji> ikonia: so what can i do
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> Hi
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: freaky, good the review stuff though :)
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> I wonder... Can I run 32 bit ubuntu as the host and 64 bit ubuntu as a guest in something like virtual box?
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: If he wants to monitor why not use teamviewer?
[08:30] <joshyu> tt
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: i'm not sure, I'm sure the guys in #vbox will know
[08:31] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Yea ok I'll ask there
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: i'd imagine not, any reason for 64bit guest?
[08:33] <foo357> Hello, I'm installing some software from source. It's a server software but I can't get it to start on startup. I have copied a script to /etc/init.d/ and made a symlink from rc5.d, what should I check to see what's wrong?
[08:37] <seduce1> hello. I cannot do "Partial Upgrade". It has happened before but it got fixed. Now it stays like that for more than two days
[08:37] <seduce1> can someone help me with that
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Someone pointed me to a official vbox link explaining if my CPU supports hardware virtualization it should work http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: It does btw
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     use http://pastie.org
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: nice :)
[08:38] <seduce1> how do I give the output just type the commands?
[08:38] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Just wanted a 64 bit test system for when I start the edx class on intro to programming and computers
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: run the commands, copy the output and use the pastebin to give the output?
[08:39] <seduce1> okay, It just got update, which for now works, and says I have to restart. I will do the commands after the restart and will tell you
[08:40] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: 32 bit ubuntu oddly supports my laptop better then 64 bit, some drivers like one for my dialup doesn't work on 64 bit lol
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: can you pastebin the output please, not your interpretation. Thanks
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: strange
[08:41] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: dialup?
[08:41] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: Yes
[08:41] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: that still exists?
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: I need the "martian modem" driver
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> That hasn't been updated for 64 bit lol
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: Yea loads of free (provided you have a landline) dialup numbers in my area
[08:44] <ShapeShifter499> I wanted it to work mainly for faxing and only really need to dialup when my phone needs a software update
[08:45] <ShapeShifter499> Due to the fact it's my source of net
[08:45] <ShapeShifter499> Meh what ever works lol
[08:46] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: isn't it expensive?
[08:46] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: it's free if you use google voice to route your fax out of your dialing code
[08:47] <ShapeShifter499> And free within dialing code
[08:48] <foo357> Hello, I need some help with cron.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> foo357: do you have a desktop UI?
[08:48] <foo357> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:48] <seduce1> ActionParsnip here are the links:
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> foo357: use gnome-schedule     or to cron as root run:  gksudo gnome-schedule
[08:48] <thenewsguy> !ol | ShapeShifter499
[08:49] <seduce1> for the UPDATEL: http://pastie.org/4796322
[08:49] <ShapeShifter499> thenewsguy: Huh?
[08:49] <seduce1> for the UPGRADE: http://pastie.org/4796325
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> foo357: waaaay easier :)
[08:49] <seduce1> will you check them
[08:49] <thenewsguy> ShapeShifter499: Sorry, I was just testing something
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> seduce1  notice 'maverick', down below
[08:50] <ShapeShifter499> Oh lol np
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: quantal isn't supported here
[08:50] <seduce1> mm
[08:50] <foo357> ActionParsnip: I'm really just doing a simple thing. A guy has adviced me to add the line "@reboot /path/to/pg_ctl -D /path/to/PGDATA start" to crontab. But I have virtually zero experience of cron.
[08:50] <seduce1> so what do I do now
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: this channel is for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <seduce1> ok, I will go there
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: the channel told yuo that when you joined
[08:51] <foo357> ActionParsnip: so is it the file /etc/crontab? And is it just as simple as adding this line at the end?
[08:51] <tmbao> hello everybody
[08:51] <tmbao> i'm trouble with ibus
[08:51] <tmbao> it doesn't show the icon on the panel
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> foo357: oh then use crontab :)
[08:51] <foo357> ActionParsnip: It's part of installing some server software.
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> foo357: does the command need root access?
[08:51] <tmbao> i had checked "Show icon on  system tray"
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> foo357: you can run:  sudo crontab -e     and add the line as you need
[08:52] <foo357> ActionParsnip: umm no I believe that the explicit purpose is to circumvent root acess
[08:52] <tmbao> but it still not show
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> foo357: then just run:  crontab -e    and you can add the line
[08:52] <foo357> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> foo357: commads in: crontab -e   will run as user
[08:54] <T4sh1> Hi
[08:56] <Kingsy> guys, I am trying to add a ppa and it says to use the deb command. however on my machine that says deb: command not found..    whats going on?
[08:56] <Kingsy> deb and deb-src  both don't exist on my system
[08:56] <ikonia> Kingsy: show me the instructions
[08:56] <Kingsy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+index?field.series_filter=precise  <-- ikonia
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: those are lines to add to /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> Kingsy  you need dpkg to install a deb
[08:56] <ikonia> Kingsy: those are lines for the sources.list, not commands
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: you add xorg edgers differently
[08:56] <Kingsy> ohhh damn
[08:57] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: you add that to sources.list?
[08:57] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: basically I am trying to upgrade my radeon driver to its latest version :)
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: that PPA is VERY experimental, expect issues
[08:58] <T4shi> Hi
[08:59] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah its installed now.. its pretty easy to rollback tho right? if there is a problem?
[09:00] <ikonia> Kingsy: you use PPA's at your own risk
[09:00] <foo357> ActionParsnip: how should the crontab command look like, I tried with: "sudo -u <user> -e <the string> "
[09:00] <ikonia> Kingsy: is there a reason you are using this PPA
[09:00] <Kingsy> ikonia: I know that yeah.. but you can roll back changes cant you?
[09:00] <foo357> ActionParsnip: crontab went missing there
[09:00] <ikonia> Kingsy: not always, it's a sloppy process
[09:00] <Kingsy> ikonia: yeah I wanted to upgrade my radeon drivers along with other aspects
[09:00] <ikonia> Kingsy: why ? is something broken ?
[09:01] <Kingsy> ikonia: no, it was to improve performance
[09:01] <ikonia> Kingsy: why do you think it will improve performance
[09:01] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:01] <ikonia> Kingsy: is there anything to suggest it will beyond it being a "later version"
[09:01] <Kingsy> one of the guys in #radeon was saying
[09:02] <Kingsy> ikonia: just from what I have been told.. brb gonna restart and hope it boots..
[09:02] <ikonia> Kingsy: sorry, that's not much
[09:02] <ikonia> Kingsy: I advise against doing this
[09:02] <XiaolinDraconis> before i go playing with stuff i dont understand, is this script safe to use? http://pastebin.com/rYSfv2wd
[09:02] <ikonia> Kingsy: unless you have genuine evidence there will be a performance improvement beyond "someone told me"
[09:02] <shkipper> Hi! First, sorry for my English but I'll try to explain. My problem is I can not save a web page in *.mhtml format (Ubuntu 11.10 & Opera 11.52) but in same time I can save the same web page using WinXP & Opera 12. If exactly - I need each time to correct the name of the web page ( to short it). How I can save the name of a web page in Ubuntu as same as in Win Xp? thnx in advance
[09:03] <Kingsy> ikonia: just incase..  have always wondered this.. what does ubuntu have that is equiv to safe mode?
[09:03] <ikonia> Kingsy: there isn't anything
[09:03] <ikonia> Kingsy: once you install that PPA - it's done
[09:03] <IdleOne> Kingsy: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge: sudo ppa-purge  ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[09:03] <ikonia> Kingsy: as in once you install a package from it
[09:03] <IdleOne> Kingsy: after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:03] <Kingsy> say you screwed your drivers up.. and booting into normal ubuntu crashed.. how do you boot into a raw tty ?
[09:04] <Kingsy> IdleOne: thanks :)
[09:04] <IdleOne> !nox
[09:04] <ikonia> Kingsy: you boot into single user mode or "recovery" mode, or from a livecd and mount your disk
[09:04] <Kingsy> ikonia: ah so there isnt a recovery console on the system? you just use livecds?
[09:04] <ikonia> Kingsy: there is a recovery option in grub's boot menu
[09:04] <fdge> XiaolinDraconis, that script is unnecessary
[09:04] <Kingsy> ah thats what I meant
[09:04] <ikonia> Kingsy: but it's not a "save point" as windows recovery option is
[09:05] <IdleOne> Kingsy: but like ikonia and ActionParsnip pointed out xorg-edgers is very experimental and could cause issues even after being removed.
[09:05] <Kingsy> oh no, I just meant a recovery option.. what is the shortcut key to get grubs menu up on boot? I forget..
[09:05] <XiaolinDraconis> fdge, how so?
[09:05] <IdleOne> Kingsy: shift
[09:05] <ikonia> Kingsy: shift I think displays grub's menu
[09:06] <Kingsy> okie dokie thanks for the info guys, as usualy great stuff
[09:06] <Kingsy> brb.. hehe lets watch this bad boy crash :)
[09:06] <XiaolinDraconis> fdge, seems like it would help, my ram is over 300Mb used when i first boot its only >100
[09:06] <ikonia> Kingsy: hang on
[09:06] <Kingsy> ikonia: yeah?
[09:06] <ikonia> Kingsy: just one thing to keep in mind
[09:06] <IdleOne> ikonia: oh, yeah. right.
[09:06] <ikonia> Kingsy: genuinly, unless you are prepared to re-install this machine, I'd very strongly advise against using that PPA for no-reason other than "someone said it may improve performance"
[09:07] <ikonia> Kingsy: if you're happy with that, go for it
[09:07] <Kingsy> ikonia: but the package is installed now.. isnt this the point of no return?
[09:07] <fdge> XiaolinDraconis, you first need to understand how linux manages memory
[09:07] <ikonia> Kingsy: fair enough, you're done
[09:08] <Kingsy> heh
[09:08] <Kingsy> ikonia: I assume once you have sudo apt-get upgrade.. you cant roll that back?
[09:08] <ikonia> nope
[09:08] <Kingsy> ok then.. so its done.. might aswell see how it goes.. :D
[09:08] <ikonia> (you can use the purge tools but that isn't a fool proof method)
[09:08] <Kingsy> np
[09:08] <Kingsy> its np.. I cant get angry it was my decision to test this out.
[09:09] <Kingsy> see you guys on the otherside :)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: you can roll back by restoring from backups (assuming you made some)
[09:09] <XiaolinDraconis> backups? u must be joking
[09:09] <XiaolinDraconis> only professionals do that
[09:10] <zertux> hello
[09:10] <IdleOne> jokes are not helpful
[09:10] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, if you want it backed up
[09:10] <fdge> XiaolinDraconis, unused memory is used as a cache for the harddrive. when that memory is needed for a program, it is reallocated for the program
[09:11] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, it is a great idea for systems you wish to preserve
[09:11] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, or kickstart
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: I have an 80 year old grandad into photography, he backs up weekly
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: not a professional
[09:12] <XiaolinDraconis> woot-0854, i would love to have a backup, sadly i use up all my space with dual boots and games
[09:12] <Kingsy> well that worked.. no issues :)
[09:12] <ikonia> Kingsy: say that after 4 weeks
[09:12] <ikonia> Kingsy: then you can have more confidence
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: when your drive IDE dies or motor fails, you will see
[09:12] <Kingsy> hehe.. not bad tho :)
[09:12] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, oh you can get a sata to usb adapter :)
[09:13] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, oh trust me i have seen, cant think of how many thousands of files i have lost, artwork games music, scripts, gone
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: yet you didn't learn.....
[09:14] <woot-0854> !ubuntuone | XiaolinDraconis
[09:14] <XiaolinDraconis> woot-0854, got one im ssurprised the hdd hasnt burnt out yet with no cooling
[09:14] <woot-0854> 5g free :)
[09:14] <zertux> I have a server running Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS with 2 x Hexa-Core Xeon E5649 2.53GHz w/HT and 32GB of ram
[09:15] <zertux> http://s11.postimage.org/qwtwgxckz/Screenshot_from_2012_09_25_12_06_28.png
[09:15] <andornaut> I just did a backup with --delete, but i noticed that it was deleting the file from the src_dir instead of the dst dir... (sorta a big deal, so any help would be greatly appreciated). The script I used is: rsync --delete --progress --exclude ".*" --exclude "${src_dir}Trash*" --exclude "${src_dir}System Volume Information" -avhz $src_dir $dst_dir
[09:15] <zertux> around 800 Http connections
[09:15] <zertux> most of them are mysql queries
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> zertux  there's also #ubuntu-server
[09:15] <andornaut> I guess, my first question, is why that deleted from $src_dir; second question is is there any way to get that back from the rsync backup? The $dst_dir has those files deleted as well.
[09:15] <XiaolinDraconis> woot-0854, thats a good point, i should start partitioning better and at least backup the OS
[09:15] <T4shi> Hi anyone could send me my whois result?
[09:16] <woot-0854> Can ubuntu snapshot an os ready for usb?
[09:16] <zertux> MonkeyDust: oh, is it ok if i ask here or shouldi  go there ?
[09:16] <fdge> you don't need to back up the OS, just the files you created
[09:16] <llutz_> XiaolinDraconis: the OS is the last thing needing a backup
[09:16] <winxpvbox> XiolinDraconis: why backup the os? the data is the important part
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> zertux  yes, guess you better ask there
[09:18] <XiaolinDraconis> The data is important but its most often the OS that gets corrupted, and i dislike spending hours customizing it, praying i dont screw it up in the process
[09:18] <Joris> I'm trying to configure a test network but I can't get internet to work, dns works fine but everything outside of the network fails, anyone an idea what might be wrong? I have taken a screenshot of route/interfaces etc http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws
[09:18] <llutz_> XiaolinDraconis: backup /etc, /home and the list of installed packages
[09:19] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, ya im right there with you.  lock into kickstart and ghost like softwares
[09:19] <woot-0854> look*
[09:19] <Joris> I think that when the ping to google, routes the google-ip to the local ip?
[09:19] <XiaolinDraconis> 5GB wouldnt be close to backing up the important stuff
[09:20] <winxpvbox> XiaolinDraconis: if you don't have backups then your data is expendable
[09:20] <woot-0854> XiaolinDraconis, sata to usb ftw
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  consider using an external usb disk or so
[09:21] <tmbao> hello
[09:21] <woot-0854> tmbao, hi
[09:21] <tmbao> can anyone help me to fix my trouble
[09:21] <XiaolinDraconis> Have a 200GB disk but its holding games pictures and music
[09:21] <tmbao> ibus-daemon doesn't show the icon on the panel
[09:21] <tmbao> it still works
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> tmbao: whats the issue
[09:23] <tmbao> the ibus-daemon
[09:23] <tmbao> do you know it?
[09:23] <tmbao> it doesn't show the icon on the panel
[09:23] <tmbao> i'm using unity
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> tmbao: not somehing I've had to deal with, sorry
[09:23] <woot-0854> tmbao, why not reset unity?
[09:23] <tmbao> i tried
[09:24] <tmbao> but it still hide
[09:24] <tmbao> i checked show icon on ibus preference
[09:24] <woot-0854> tmbao, did you mess with the resolution or display size?
[09:25] <tmbao> no
[09:25] <woot-0854> tmbao, did you manually delete?
[09:25] <Eagleman> Can i convert my pop3 mailbox from my ISP to an imap mailbox, but setting up a mail server and recieveing mail from an pop3 server and then recieve the e-mail using imap from the mail server?
[09:25] <tmbao> what you mean delete? i don't delete anythign :-?
[09:25] <woot-0854> lol.  sry then im outta ideas
[09:27] <foo357> Hello, how can I find the exact name of a package, if I "sorta" know what the name is, from command line?
[09:27] <llutz_> foo357: apt-cache search parts-of-then-name
[09:27] <Joris> I'm trying to configure a test network but I can't get internet to work, dns works fine but everything outside of the network fails, anyone an idea what might be wrong? I have taken a screenshot of route/interfaces etc http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws
[09:28] <foo357> thank you llutz_
[09:28] <Joris> or somebody has an idea where I can look to? search on?
[09:28] <woot-0854> foo357, or I think tab works if you now the first few letters
[09:28] <olga__> I am foggot command fo entering to russ chat
[09:28] <llutz_> !ru
[09:29] <Eagleman> Joris do a traceroute
[09:29] <Eagleman> can you show me the output?
[09:29] <Eagleman> could you also show me the output from dig google.com ?
 thank you
[09:31] <Joris> Eagleman: traceroute wasn't installed as default on the ubuntu server; we tried to run a debian desktop version on the same machine & then the traceroute returned lines like "1. * * *"
[09:31] <Eagleman> can you ping on your default gateway to google?
[09:32] <Eagleman> 10.67.57.20
[09:34] <Joris> Eagleman: http://i.imgur.com/cvaiW.png this is the result of a ping to google
[09:34] <Eagleman> That is on 10.67.57.20 ?
[09:36] <Joris> Eagleman: 10.67.57.20 is what I think might be the default gateway, the ping to google is from 10.67.57.68 (the ip from the machine) a ping to the dns server did work
[09:36] <Joris> Eagleman: the network admin said to add routes like route add 10.67.112.0 MASK 255.255.240.0 10.67.57.20 /P
[09:37] <Joris> Eagleman: and that's where I got the default gateway ip from, but I tried also the standard gateway ip that ubuntu recommended without any luck (10.67.48.1)
[09:37] <Eagleman> Why work with static routes when you have a large network?
[09:37] <Joris> It's just a test setup, I don't think there are that many servers
[09:38] <Eagleman> What is your role?
[09:39] <Raji> ikonia: Hai i have found themethod i just installed tight vnc on my windows 7 and now i can access the ubuntu desktop. Thank you all
[09:39] <Joris> I'm trying to get a django installation to run on it for somebody else:) the guy that manages the test setup is gone for this week
[09:39] <Eagleman> So you dont know the default gateway?
[09:40] <Eagleman> Isnt dhcp enabled in your network?
[09:41] <Joris> No dhcp, well I'm not sure about the default gateway, but the one for which I'm trying to get it running did install ubuntu desktop successfully with network, with the same information
[09:41] <Eagleman> What is 10.67.57.20 for machine?
[09:41] <Joris> but he couldn't help me with, he said he tried some things & it worked
[09:42] <Joris> I guess it's a gateway, eg. route add 10.67.112.0 MASK 255.255.240.0 10.67.57.20 /P
[09:42] <Eagleman> i guess
[09:42] <Joris> if I understand the line correctly it'll route internal traffic to that gateway
[09:42] <Joris> but it doesn't ping
[09:42] <Eagleman> It could be another server/computer
[09:43] <varun> hello, what does 10_linux do?
[09:43] <Joris> but isn't it strange that if I ping google.com, that it says that the "host ip" failed?
[09:43] <Joris> it seems as if the routing, routes the google ip to the local ip?
[09:43] <Joris> http://i.imgur.com/cvaiW.png
[09:44] <Eagleman> ping to the default gateway?
[09:45] <llutz_> varun: it searches for linux-installations on your harddisks
[09:46] <llutz_> varun: to generate entries in the grub-menu
[09:46] <Joris> pinging the gateway gives the same error as a ping to google
[09:46] <Eagleman> What exactly do you do in your company?
[09:46] <Eagleman> What for work?
[09:47] <Eiege> ChanServ: hello
[09:47] <timfrost> Joris: what routes does your machine have? (!pastebin the text output)
[09:47] <Eagleman> timfrost http://imgur.com/a/Fm2ws
[09:47] <varun> llutz:  i dont have a 10_linux in my system..i have 50_linux
[09:47] <Eagleman> same as the default gateway
[09:47] <Eagleman> which is not reachable
[09:48] <TankC> Hey all, I'm running 10.04 and I need to upgrade one of my packages to a newer revision that I can't find a compiled backport for.  What's the preferred way to compile the source of a newer revision of this package myself?  (libfuse, libfuse-dev)
[09:48] <Eagleman> Joris can you ping 10.67.57.68 and 127.0.0.1
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> TankC  guess the preferred way is to upgrade to 12.04
[09:49] <llutz_> varun: did you rename it to get windows entries first in the menu?
[09:49] <Joris> timfrost: I took a screenshot of the routes http://i.imgur.com/RTHDz.png wasn't able to copy from the console
[09:49] <llutz_> varun: those will be generated by 30_os-prober
[09:50] <Eagleman> allways start at the botem when troubleshooting
[09:50] <Eagleman> is the NIC working and the cable attached to it?
[09:50] <varun> llutz: i installed ubuntu through wubi
[09:50] <Joris> Eagleman: a ping to 127.0.0.1 doesn't work, 10.67.57.68 does
[09:51] <Eagleman> goto another machine and try to ping 10.67.57.68
[09:51] <llutz_> varun: i don't know if wubi makes a difference for grub-files. but why are you asking about 10_linux?
[09:51] <Joris> the basics should be ok, I'm connect to the machine through vSphere
[09:51] <Joris> I don't have access to any other machines (or the physical room
[09:51] <Eagleman> Could have been usefull if you mentioned the machine is a guest OS
[09:52] <cfhowlett> varun: wubi is a TESTING environment, not a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth wubi developers.  Consider full installation, dual booting or even virtualization options.
[09:52] <Eagleman> who asigned the ip address?
[09:53] <karthick87> How to fix this apt-get update issue? Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226278/ hope someone can help me out to fix this issue..
[09:53] <senad> hi
[09:54] <senad> exit
[09:54] <senad> Q
[09:54] <varun> llutz: i am installing xen and ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008795 say to execute this command sudo mv /etc/grub.d/10_linux /etc/grub.d/50_linux
[09:55] <llutz_> varun: well if you already have 50_linux and no 10_linux, youcan skip that
[09:55] <llutz_> varun: they just reorder the menuentries
[09:56] <varun> llutz: but then xm dmesg in terminal says ERROR:  Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs!
[09:56] <Joris> Eagleman: I've no idea, I think the same guy that sended the configuration, I think that maybe the only thing left is to wait until he is back or hope he reads his emails:)
[09:56] <Joris> but thanks for helping^
[09:56] <llutz_> varun: its not related to that error
[09:56] <Eagleman> Ok good luck
[09:57] <Joris> I think I'll just wait until he's back:)
[09:57] <varun> llutz: what is it related to?
[09:57] <llutz_> varun: idk, i don't use xen. but those grub-files aren't the reason for that error, for sure
[09:58] <iNTEl> hey
[09:58] <iNTEl> anyone can help me here ?
[09:58] <iNTEl> just little help !
[09:58] <llutz_> !anyone | iNTEl
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: just ask....
[09:59] <iNTEl> remember me Actionparsnip :D
[09:59] <iNTEl> anyway i upgraded and customized my ubuntu
[09:59] <iNTEl> so i wanna make an image 2 it
[09:59] <Eagleman> clonezilla
[10:00] <iNTEl> k
[10:00] <iNTEl> Eagleman : ty 4 the high response
[10:00] <Eagleman> for a 1:1 copy
[10:00] <iNTEl> Eagleman : its k
[10:01] <iNTEl> Eagleman : is it in the ubuntu software center ?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: In future just ask rather than "iNTEl> just little help !", its redundant.
[10:01] <timfrost> karthick87: you may need to add  '/ubuntu' to the 'http://ftp.availo.se' entries (use 'deb http://ftp.availo.se/ubuntu ' on the entries for that mirror)
[10:05] <fragmachine> has anyone managed to jailbreak an ipod touch on ubuntu?
[10:05] <denis__> linked sound big-linux i am not sechiant, your versat
[10:05] <fragmachine> I tried greanpoison but it freezes every time
[10:05] <cfhowlett> fragmachine: wrong channel.
[10:05] <fragmachine> what is the right one?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> fragmachine: can't say but I'd search jailbreak, ipod, apple, etc
[10:07] <Jamey_> Cool
[10:07] <fragmachine> ok, I have been but haven't had any luck. Anyway, is it impossible to put music onto the ipod without jailbreaking?
[10:07] <Jamey_> i m french
[10:07] <fragmachine> cause I just want to put some music on there
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> !ipod > fragmachine
[10:08] <denis__> ok  tenk you
[10:08] <Jamey_> je ne comprends pas
[10:08] <Jamey_> un tradjucteur ?
[10:08] <Jamey_> yo denis
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[10:09] <Jamey_> ;;-)
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !fr|Jamey_:
[10:09] <Jamey_> see above ?
[10:09] <Jamey_> cze koi ??
[10:10] <Jamey_> ubottu,  bien
[10:11] <Jamey_> ubottu aime les les gargoiins he is like the boys
[10:11] <p3c0> Im creating my own ubuntu minimal system using ubuntu-core-11.10-core-i386.tar.gz
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> Jamey_  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[10:11] <p3c0> i have installed grub2 for it
[10:12] <Jamey_> MonkeyDust,  quoi donc ?
[10:12] <p3c0> but everytime i boot i need to set the boot parameters
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> Jamey_  "veuillez  taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci."
[10:12] <p3c0> on booting the system falls to grub console
[10:12] <denis__> music on ,sound on power on sery link corretely?
[10:13] <Pricey> p3c0: Have you edited /etc/default/grub and run update-grub?
[10:13] <Pricey> p3c0: Don't update /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly.
[10:13] <p3c0> Pricey, yes i have updated
[10:13] <linocisco> is there any friend who experience transfering MySQL database of glpi (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=glpi&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.glpi-project.org%2Fspip.php%3Flang%3Den&ei=zINhUMS5AcjHsgaeoIHYCg&usg=AFQjCNHt9dYDHIeYlQw69NCgpG7V1FvZEw)to Ubuntu server and make it work on ubuntu server LAMP?
[10:14] <linocisco> now i am using glpi with XAMPP
[10:14] <p3c0> ran grub-update and grub-mkconfig also
[10:14] <Jamey_> MonkeyDust,  i like for them
[10:14] <p3c0> *update-grub
[10:14] <Jamey_> non ?
[10:14] <linocisco> Experience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated
[10:15] <Jamey_> linocisco,  hihi j ai ri
[10:15] <linocisco> Jamey_, what do u mean?
[10:15] <leblebi_s> hi all!
[10:15] <Jamey_> linocisco,  tu confonds
[10:15] <llutz_> !ops | Jamey_ trolling
[10:16] <Jamey_> je ne trole pas j essaie d em integrer
[10:16] <Jamey_> serieux
[10:16] <bkerensa> Jamey_: Lets stop please?
[10:16] <linocisco> Jamey_, Merci
[10:16] <elky> Jamey_, i can't understand french, could you please speak in english?
[10:16] <bkerensa> !guidelines > Jamey_
[10:16] <Jamey_> i want becausze..
[10:17] <Jamey_> i don't une umbrella
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> i understand french, he says he seriously tries to integrate
[10:17] <niko> Jamey_: merci de garder ce canal pour du support.
[10:17] <Jamey_> MonkeyDust,  j ai un niveau risible
[10:17] <average_1rifter> hello ! is there a libiconv-dev ? I'm looking for it for the past hour in my repo
[10:17] <Jamey_> in english
[10:17] <bkerensa> Jamey_: Pour de l'aide en français s'il vous plaît join # ubuntu-fr
[10:17] <niko> Jamey_: please move to #ubuntu-fr
[10:18] <average_1rifter> that's the iconv library for converting through various formats like UTF-8 and taht kind of stuff
[10:18] <Jamey_> average jue reve de te compre,ndre
[10:18] <Jamey_> serieux
[10:19] <Jamey_> average_1rifter,  y a des vins en angleterre
[10:19] <Jamey_> le reve
[10:19] <Jamey_> mon bergerac
[10:19] <Jamey_> lolo
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> Jamey_  stop
[10:19] <average_1rifter> Jamey_: dude wtf ?
[10:19] <Jamey_> 1000 fois meilleur que ta piquzette
[10:20] <Jamey_> anglaaise
[10:20] <average_1rifter> Jamey_: F you, GTFO
[10:20] <winxpvbox> Jamey_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:20] <llutz_> elky: bkerensa please ... :)
[10:20] <catphish_> average_1rifter: language.
[10:20] <Jamey_> average s essie a la vvinfication
[10:20] <average_1rifter> catphish_: sorry
[10:20] <Jamey_> lool
[10:20] <Jamey_> average s essie a la vvinfication
[10:20] <Jamey_> loool
[10:20] <FloodBot1> Jamey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <Jamey_> l anglais
[10:20] <Jamey_> le nain
[10:21] <average_1rifter> Jamey_: are you a bot ?
[10:21] <catphish_> thanks FloodBot1 :)
[10:22] <linocisco> Experience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated
[10:23] <linocisco> Experience of transfering MySQL database from XAMPP to ubuntu server LAMP is appreciated . Let me know how to do this
[10:23] <llutz_> linocisco: cant you just mysqldump the database
[10:23] <average_1rifter> llutz_: probably, but the experience is what interests him
[10:23] <average_1rifter> that seems pasted off of a job ad
[10:23] <average_1rifter> lol
[10:24] <karthick87> How can i remove from Dash Home/Folders: 'Pictures','Music','Videos' and 'Downloads" which i have already removed from my /home?
[10:25] <average_1rifter> karthick87: Warning: USE WITH EXTREME CAUTION =>    rm -rf ~/Pictures
[10:25] <linocisco> llutz_, I am not that smart
[10:25] <llutz_> karthick87: edit/remove them from  ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[10:25] <average_1rifter> oh you already removed them
[10:25] <average_1rifter> scratch what I just said
[10:28] <llutz_> linocisco: mysqldump -h host -u root -p  databasename >database.sql      the resulting file can be imported the same way into your lamp-mysql
[10:29] <linocisco> llutz_, what do you mean by resulting file?? any screenshot on step by step??
[10:29] <llutz_> linocisco: more info in the mysql-documentation (dev.mysql.com)
[10:30] <blackshirt> llutz_ thats command would redirected the output to the sql file
[10:30] <karthick87> thankyou llutz_
[10:31] <llutz_> blackshirt: yes, thats what it's supposed to do
[10:31] <blackshirt> llutz__ he should understand :d
[10:32] <llutz_> blackshirt: then you'd better address him ;)
[10:33] <blackshirt> llutz__, it's no matter :d
[10:34] <puddle> hi everyone
[10:34] <cfhowlett> puddle
[10:34] <blackshirt> he puddle
[10:38] <puddle> guys I am trying to switch from windows to linux (ubuntu) and looking for alternatives to softwares I am currently using, most of them I already replaced but I still would need to find a good alternative to FeedDemon and Yahoo Widgets, maybe someone could point me to the right direction?
[10:38] <joru> #join #ubuntu-se
[10:38] <joru> sorry
[10:39] <Eagleman> Can i convert my pop3 mailbox from my ISP to an imap mailbox, but setting up a mail server and recieveing mail from an pop3 server and then recieve the e-mail using imap from the mail server?
[10:39] <AdvoWork> hi there, i did a time rsync ..... and it says: real	395m6.208s user	31m19.605s sys	4m41.142s  is that the time bit?
[10:40] <SpacePoet> where do i find source files for installed programs?
[10:40] <winxpvbox> puddle: what is feeddemon?
[10:40] <puddle> well its a feed reader on windows which I got used to
[10:40] <winxpvbox> !rss | puddle
[10:40] <puddle> its not avaible for ubuntu but a good alternative would be nice
[10:41] <no_gravity> Hello! What are popular alternatives to ubuntu 12? I was happy with ubuntu 11 but i cannot cope with ubuntu 11. My workflow is different. Its slow and crashes often.
[10:41] <jilt007> Is there any way to edit pdf file?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> no_gravity: lubuntu/xubuntu
[10:41] <winxpvbox> !equivalent | puddle
[10:42] <cfhowlett> jilt007: gimp
[10:42] <jilt007> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[10:42] <crizis> !nounity | no_gravity
[10:42] <mj_> how can install ubuntu in terminal
[10:43] <InspectorCluseau> puddle, > http://alternativeto.net/software/feeddemon/
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: just install xfce, kde or lxde and it won't be ran
[10:43] <puddle> well actually I asked because I was curious about what u guys think, I am not exactly new to linux but pretty much new to what software is avaible for desktop and which ones are considered the best ones
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: you don't have to use unity shell in 12.04 (ubuntu 12 doesn't exist)
[10:44] <no_gravity> ActionParsnip: i installed the xubuntu-desktop. is that xfce?
[10:44] <winxpvbox> no_gravity: yes
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: yes, xubuntu uses xfce+xfwm instead of gnome+compiz byu default
[10:44] <no_gravity> winxpvbox: thanks. its too slow. the notebook is damn slow with ubuntu 12 and xubuntu.
[10:44] <no_gravity> winxpvbox: it works fine with debian 6, but i would like something more modern.
[10:45] <winxpvbox> no_gravity: then try lubuntu
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> no_gravity: could use Lubuntu :)
[10:45] <winxpvbox> no_gravity: sounds like your notebook is getting old
[10:45] <lusers> Hi. I got a question about mounting. How can I mount /dev/mapper/black_ninja/{Documents, Videos, Templates, etc} to ~/ in one command? I don't want to do ~/black_ninja/{Documents, Video, Templates, etc}
[10:46] <kenshiro> Hi, what's the best way to change login screen picture in ubuntu 12.04 ? I don't want to use external applications as Ubuntu Tweak
[10:46] <cabuloso> whats the best *box window manager these days?
[10:46] <winxpvbox> cabuloso: no such thing as best
[10:46] <no_gravity> winxpvbox: yeah, downloading lubuntu right now.
[10:46] <puddle> one more thing I would like to ask you, i had problems with ubuntu, it did freeze on install for 2 weeks i tried numerous way to install it, did check memory and hdd did not find any problems, later i managed to install ubuntu and after a kernel update it stopped freezing, well it only froze once since but seemed like a software issue, any idea what might have been the issue?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> kenshiro: there is no single best way, there are many different ways
[10:47] <no_gravity> winxpvbox: it is old. but it works fine with debian 6. so instead of switching i would rather stay with that os.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> kenshiro: one way is to use ubuntu-tweak
[10:48] <Kingsy> so does anyone in here use the xorg-edgers ppa ? out of curiousity ?
[10:48] <winxpvbox> no_gravity: use whatever you are comfortable with but we can only support ubuntu here
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: i use the edgers update ppa for newer nvidia drivers
[10:48] <serdotlinecho> Hi guys, i'm trying to understand what is the meaning of asterisk symbol on Boot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226357/
[10:48] <kenshiro> ActionParsnip I tried lightdm application, it's installed by default but doesn't even loads. What's the manual method to change login picture?
[10:48] <winxpvbox> Kingsy: ppas are unsupported 3rd party packages
[10:49] <winxpvbox> Kingsy: if something goes wrong you are on your own
[10:49] <puddle> btw none can suggest a good desktop weather application that is actually developed still? (like gdesklet or screenlets)
[10:49] <Kingsy> winxpvbox: I know, I am asking if anyone in here uses it..
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> kenshiro: possibly in lightdm.conf some place
[10:49] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: hmm I didnt think you thought the ppa was a good idea ?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> puddle  i use this   indicator-weather
[10:50] <puddle> ty for the tip
[10:50] <kenshiro> actionparsnip ok thank you
[10:51] <K350> any really small and tiny nonsense app in the ubuntu repo?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> K350  come again?
[10:51] <crizis> K350, cowsay :D
[10:51] <K350> Need it for checking a script I'm doing. So a small nosense app for lot's of install/uninstallation  would e nice
[10:52] <crizis> K350, sudo apt-get install cowsay
[10:52] <crizis> K350, you won't be disappointed!
[10:52] <K350> cowsay eh..lol..ok I'll try that one
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: read the description on the PPA website
[10:53] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah I have..
[10:53] <crizis> K350, also remember to test it, "cowsay I'm useless app"
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> good ol cowsay
[10:53] <K350> crizis:  haha..well let's see :-)
[10:53] <Eiege> hello
[10:53] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: what I have done. install the ppa, apt-get upgrade. Rebooted it worked then I disabled the ppa.. so it wont install anything else.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: thats one way
[10:54] <K350> crizis: testing it..oh..yea, of coruse..I forgot  :-D
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> crizis: fun to mix cowsay with fortune :)
[10:54] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah.. probably not the best way I assume?
[10:54] <Guest94577> lshw shows my chipset unclaimed - can anyone help?
[10:54] <serdotlinecho> I need to know in which drive is my mbr? Here the fdisk -l output:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226357/
[10:55] <K350> Hm..ok it's small enough for my needs..thansk guys :-)
[10:55] <Guest94577> serdotlinecho: sda
[10:56] <Guest94577> sda1
[10:56] <Guest94577> can anyone help with :        *-serial UNCLAIMED
[10:56] <Guest94577>              description: SMBus
[10:56] <Guest94577>              product: 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller
[10:56] <Guest94577>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[10:56] <Guest94577>              physical id: 1f.3
[10:56] <FloodBot1> Guest94577: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <Guest94577>              bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
[10:57] <serdotlinecho> Guest94577:so the asterisk * is my mbr?
[10:57] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[10:57] <Guest94577> yes
[10:57] <cousin_luigi> How do I change the defaults for a multimedia keyboard?
[10:57] <serdotlinecho> Guest94577: Thanks :)
[11:00] <Eagleman> How do i remove: You have mail.
[11:00] <Eagleman> when logging in on the cli
[11:00] <winxpvbox> Eagleman: check it: mail
[11:00] <Eagleman> i dont have mail
[11:00] <slugslug> look in /var/spool/mail
[11:00] <Eiege> 大家好
[11:01] <safecancel> can i get ubuntu working on my MacBookAir4,1
[11:01] <safecancel> :'(
[11:01] <Eagleman> and then?
[11:01] <Eiege> 能不能看到我发的消息？
[11:01] <winxpvbox> !mac | safecancel
[11:01] <slugslug> is there mail in there?
[11:01] <Eagleman> only names on my accountr
[11:01] <winxpvbox> Eagleman: read it then quit
[11:01] <Eagleman> how do i read it?
[11:01] <safecancel> winxpvbox: wonderful - thanks :)
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !zh|Eiege:
[11:01] <slugslug> with cat
[11:01] <slugslug> then delete it
[11:01] <Eiege> ubottu: 谢谢
[11:02] <Eagleman> i am using Maildir with e-mail
[11:03] <Eagleman> So how did the e-mail got there?
[11:04] <winxpvbox> Eagleman: all unix systems have mail
[11:04] <Eagleman> what?
[11:04] <slugslug> if you have not setup an email server then its most likley a service emailing you reports / errors?  what was in the mail?
[11:04] <mattyk> i like ubuntu sooo much
[11:04] <Eagleman> cant remember
[11:05] <Eagleman> did not really read it
[11:05] <Eagleman> But i've set it up using ~./Maildir
[11:05] <Eagleman> so mail should be there
[11:06] <cousin_luigi> How do I change the defaults for a multimedia keyboard?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | cousin_luigi
[11:07] <cousin_luigi> ActionParsnip: They already work, but the function I'd like to change doesn't appear among the keyboard shortcuts.
[11:09] <T4shi> Hi anyone can paste me my whois result?
[11:09] <slugslug> whois T4shi
[11:10] <Eagleman> If i create a folder in my imap mailbox, where can i find this specific folder on my system?
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> T4shi  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226383/
[11:10] <crizis> Eagleman, imap folders reside at server, not on your system
[11:11] <Eagleman> yes but where can i find that folder on the server
[11:11] <Eagleman> that it what i meant
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> T4shi: http://pastie.org/4796826
[11:12] <aether> T4shi: you can whois yourself
[11:12] <slugslug> !whois slugslug
[11:12] <crizis> depends on email server. look for its documentation where it stores user data
[11:13] <Eagleman> I''ve set it up with ~./Maildir using dovecot
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> cousin_luigi: I'd look into xbindkeys
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> cousin_luigi: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8233
[11:16] <karthick87> I did this already  "~/.config/user-dirs.dirs". The folders are deleted from my /home but they are remaining in Dash. How to fix it ??
[11:18] <cousin_luigi> ActionParsnip: It wasn't installed. Shouldn't already be there for it to work?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> cousin_luigi: you need to configure it and so forth
[11:20] <cousin_luigi> ActionParsnip: But it's already working and I'd like to change the current behaviour.
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> cousin_luigi  then maybe you should explore the options and possibilities of xbindkeys
[11:25] <cousin_luigi> MonkeyDust: How can I be sure it won't simply superimpose on the actions already configured by gnome?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> cousin_luigi: or you can use ccsm, you can define actions then set the shortcuts that make it happen (shortcut, hot corner etc)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> cousin_luigi  guess nobody ever tried what you want to do, you're on the way of becoming the expert
[11:28] <cousin_luigi> MonkeyDust: I see.
[11:28] <cousin_luigi> Well, the problem is the computer shuts down immediately when pushing that button, so I find that hard to believe:/
[11:28] <cousin_luigi> In any case, thanks for the hints.
[11:29] <cousin_luigi> bye
[11:30] <blinky1> hi! i'm new here. is this a good channel to ask for support?
[11:30] <catphish> blinky1: yes
[11:30] <cfhowlett> blinky1: yes for ubuntu
[11:31] <blinky1> good ;)
[11:31] <blinky1> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and want to get audio over hdmi running
[11:31] <blinky1> this is my card:(via lspci): 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
[11:32] <Hatori> !nvidia
[11:32] <catphish> blinky1: have you installed the nvidia drivers? i'd expect it to just work
[11:32] <Hatori> !nvidia | blinky1
[11:32] <blinky1> in the drivers dialog i have four options. i don't understand which one to chose :(
[11:33] <blinky1> thanks for the link!
[11:33] <nsudo> folks need a vpn for 12.04 which one is good
[11:33] <catphish> openvpn
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: network manager has vpn functionality in it
[11:34] <AdvoWork> hi there, i did a time rsync ..... and it says: real	395m6.208s user	31m19.605s sys	4m41.142s  is that the time bit?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: 'good' is an opinion, nothing more
[11:34] <blinky1> so what is the right driver/module string for this to work??
[11:35] <catphish> i'd just install the normal nvidia driver from the drivers dialog that comes up
[11:35] <catphish> (the one that isn't post-updates has been more reliable in my experience)
[11:36] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; Thanks Also my soundcard does not work can you help
[11:36] <blinky1> @catphish my problem is: drivers dialog is in german translation and not very easy to understand..
[11:37] <catphish> what drivers do you see?
[11:37] <blinky1> @catphish: there are for options, all of them have NVIDIA in their name :?
[11:37] <blinky1> rough translation:
[11:37] <blinky1> 1: accelerated graphics driver from NVIDIA (version 173)
[11:38] <winxpvbox> blinky1: 173, looks like you have an old nvidia card
[11:38] <blinky1> 2: NVIDIAs accelerated graphics driver (updated) (version 173-updates)
[11:38] <blinky1> 3: accelerated graphics driver from NVIDIA (current) (recommended)
[11:38] <catphish> (3) is what you want
[11:39] <blinky1> 4: NVIDIAs accelerated graphics driver (updated) (version-current-updates)
[11:39] <blinky1> so number 3?
[11:39] <catphish> yes
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:39] <blinky1> that is the one currently active
[11:40] <blinky1> @catphish but the audio-settings has only two cards: "digital out (SPDIF)" and "analog out"
[11:40] <d3bug> can't build xf86-video-intel-git.  it seems to be looking for libuxa.la which i cannot figure out what is supposed to produce that library.
[11:40] <d3bug> i have googled, and nothing i have found gives any hint as to where to get it or what package it is a part of.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !find libuxa.la
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !find libuxa
[11:41] <d3bug> its a big mystery... lol
[11:42] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; http://pastebin.com/yb3c9guA
[11:42] <blinky1> @winxpvbox: what was that with "old nvidia card"?
[11:42] <winxpvbox> blinky1: drop the @
[11:43] <winxpvbox> blinky1: 173 is the old nvidia driver
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: oh i hate when it does that, gimme a sec
[11:45] <d3bug> guess I'll try a bit later... ty anyway
[11:45] <catphish> blinky1: not sure why the audio wasn't wouldn't be picked up :(
[11:45] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; cool
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: looks like its being updated. I used to have the file in my dropbox too :(
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: if someone else has it then you can run it, its also in Quantal by default too, but sadly not in Precise which I am on
[11:50] <blinky1> catphish:  :( any other hints? i'm somewhat comfortable with fiddling with settings etc... but for this i have just no idea what to start with
[11:51] <blinky1> should i be able to find sth in logfiles?
[11:51] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; cool
[11:52] <bitbuzzer> how do i change the color of #comments in config files (like apache.conf) ?
[11:53] <jrib> bitbuzzer: depends on the text editor
[11:53] <blinky1> winxpvbox: could i just use/get the newer driver?
[11:53] <TJ-> bitbuzzer: They don't have a colour - but some text editors colourise them to aid reading
[11:53] <bitbuzzer> jrib, vim
[11:53] <winxpvbox> blinky1: no, you have an older card, so 173 is the proper driver for you
[11:53] <catphish> blinky1: i'm not sure, sorry, i don't know if the audio and video drivers are related
[11:54] <catphish> does anybody know if it's possible to prompt for network config when using kickstart?
[11:54] <catphish> my installation seems to use default config and not prompt
[11:54] <blinky1> winxpvbox: so no audio over hdmi on UBUNTU for me?
[11:55] <soman> Hi all. I'm applied some updates in Ubuntu 12.04 and now I can't set a 1280x1024 resolution for my monitor. 1024x768 only available. How I can change it? Before updating I installed a nVidia driver from official website
[11:56] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; no luck so far
[11:56] <winxpvbox> blinky1: no idea sorry, i've never used hdmi
[11:56] <blinky1> winxpvbox: kk thx
[11:56] <blinky1> catphish: do you know any other place to ask?
[11:57] <catphish> blinky1: ##linux maybe
[11:57] <blinky1> catphish: thx!
[11:57] <catphish> also, google it
[11:58] <blinky1> catphish: i did ;)
[11:58] <TJ-> catphish: I believe this might do it: "network --device=eth0 --bootproto=query"
[11:58] <blinky1> catphish: it's always "just select nvidia driver, select audio card, be happy..."
[11:59] <catphish> blinky1: yeah, i'd have expected that to work :(
[11:59] <catphish> try the 173 driver if you haven't already
[11:59] <catphish> failing that, you could try uninstalling the driver and  installing the latest one manually from nvidia, but not sure that's worth it
[12:00] <rp2> any xrdp users here? I find http://ubuntuwiki.net/index.php/Xrdp,_installing rather confusing (it says two things that are wrong, luckily I only read it after successful installation)
[12:02] <blinky1> catphish: i'm pretty sure i tried all 4. what are the package names for those drivers?
[12:02] <catphish> not package nemes
[12:02] <catphish> if you want the latest ones, you uninstall the using ubuntu
[12:02] <catphish> then go to the nvidia website
[12:03] <winxpvbox> catphish: that isn't a good idea
[12:05] <catphish> where you can download the latest ones
[12:05] <catphish> *uninstall the ubuntu ones
[12:05] <catphish> don't do it unless you're desperate though, they're not supported by ubuntu
[12:05] <catphish> it's not supported, but it often works well
[12:05] <catphish> i wouldnt recommend it unless he exhausts all other options
[12:06] <blinky1> catphish: winxpvbox: hmmm
[12:06] <TJ-> Are you discussing bleeding-edge Nvidia drivers? They are made available via a PPA you know
[12:07] <InsaneGene> Hello peeps, I need a good HTTP proxy client, something easy to use like FreeGate on windows, any suggestions please?
[12:07] <catphish> i have used that ppa now actually, it's a better choice
[12:08] <TJ-> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[12:08] <blinky1> TJ-:: thx!
[12:08] <catphish> TJ-: thanks
[12:08] <blinky1> btw: how to explain pidgin to open URLs in browser?
[12:08] <alkisg> On an sshfs mount with follow_symlinks, how can I delete a symlink?
[12:09] <InsaneGene> #linuxac
[12:09] <Eagleman> rm link?
[12:09] <catphish> delete the link as normal?
[12:09] <catphish> it may delete the destination, test first :)
[12:10] <alkisg> catphish: when the link targets a directory, rm refuses to delete it, it thinks it's a directory instead of a symlink
[12:10] <alkisg> I tried it, and I cannot find a way, that's why I'm asking :)
[12:11] <alkisg> I can only `mv` a symlink, I cannot `rm` it... or at least I don't know how
[12:11] <lordlucan> I've have installed a Intel 5100 wireless card in my nettop. However I my wireless network is not showing. Do I need a driver? How do I install it please?
[12:11] <catphish> alkisg: you probably can't do anything about the directory problem
[12:11] <baier_> Someone with /wc
[12:12] <alkisg> Thank you catphish
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | lordlucan start here
[12:12] <catphish> TJ-: "network --device=eth0 --bootproto=query" didn't work :(
[12:12] <lordlucan> thank you ubottu
[12:13] <baier> Sorry for the last one. Does somebody have any experience with Ubuntu 12.04 shortcuts not working? More specifically Ctrl+Super+Left/Right to snap windows so that they cover the entire side of the left/right side of the screen. Both in gnome and unity.
[12:13] <TJ-> catphish: phooey! I'm guessing the "bootproto=query" is the key part. It's worth checking the anaconda source-code for the package to see if/how it is used
[12:13] <catphish> ah "Also, the --bootproto=query option is deprecated. If you want to prompt for network configuration in the first stage of installation, use the asknetwork option."
[12:13] <catphish> i'll try that
[12:14] <TJ-> alkisg: Instead of "-o follow_symlinks" you might try "-o transform_symlinks" - which transforms them into relative links (OK as long as you're not wanting to traverse different file-systems)
[12:14] <zykotick9> baier: i was under the impress (perhaps incorrectly) that only Unity has the "snap" feature
[12:14] <TJ-> catphish: yay... documentation1
[12:14] <zykotick9> s/impress/impression/
[12:14] <bretth>  anybody know if Calligra will be default office in Kubuntu12.10?
[12:15] <catphish> TJ-: at least you gave me something to google :)
[12:15] <baier> zykotick9: No, my computer at work runs in gnome and has the snapping-feature
[12:15] <alkisg> TJ-: unfortunately we need to traverse different file systems
[12:16] <TJ-> catphish: :D what would we do without out? We'd still be using the 'gopher' protocol!
[12:16] <zykotick9> baier: ok sorry, you'd know better then i would... my bad.
[12:16] <baier> zykotick9: ..but it doesn't work on my personal lap-top:(
[12:16] <TJ-> alkisg: In which case, as "follow_symlinks" literally replaces them, I don't think you can delete them from the client side
[12:17] <TJ-> baier: Ctrl+Super+Left/Right with 12.04 Unity works correctly here. Maybe you've bound the Super (Meta) and/or Ctrl keys to some other action ?
[12:17] <alkisg> TJ-: gotcha, I was hoping there would be a tool to instruct sshfs that for this particular call we don't want it to follow the symlinks but operate on them
[12:18] <catphish> aargh "The asknetwork parameter is obsolete in Fedora 17 and later releases. If specified it will have no effect."
[12:18] <baier> TJ-: Ty. I'll go back to Unity and check.
[12:18] <TJ-> catphish: Someone's messin' with you!
[12:19] <catphish> TJ-: i agree!
[12:19] <TJ-> alkisg: As you're already using SSH, why not just "ssh <host> rm -f /path/to/link"
[12:20] <catphish> oh, asknetwork is a kernel option not a kickstart option for a start
[12:20] <alkisg> TJ-: there's a control socket open to the server but it belongs to root, not the user, so it would require a password prompt there, and I can't do that for a service script
[12:20] <alkisg> Thank you though, I'll do some workarounds
[12:23] <drupin> http://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/  this is my system infor what is missing here
[12:23] <TJ-> alkisg: How about a script on the server using inotify against "/some/path/to/file" that waits for that file to be created, reads a path from it, does "rm -f <path>", deletes the file, and goes back to waiting?
[12:23] <TJ-> Oh he's gone, now he'll never know the really neat solution :p
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> drupin  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:24] <drupin> MonkeyDust: some drivers are missing i guess box freezes some times if over loaded....
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> !details > drupin
[12:26] <drupin> ko
[12:27] <TJ-> drupin: "overloaded" == problem , not missing drivers. No driver == hardware not being used
[12:27] <AdvoWork> im trying to kill a process(3 of them) running by testuser, ive tried kill id, it gave no error, but still running, but it says [awk]  then [dirname] so i assume these are threads,how can i get rid of these by that user?
[12:27] <drupin> ok TJ-
[12:27] <winxpvbox> AdvoWork: kill -9 pid
[12:27] <TJ-> drupin: Best place to start in resolving such issues is /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[12:28] <drupin> ubottu: box freezez .. running 12.04 .. when too many apps running...
[12:28] <AdvoWork> winxpvbox, still does the same
[12:28] <drupin> ohh
[12:28] <drupin> MonkeyDust: box freezez .. running 12.04 .. when too many apps running...
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> drupin  start by not using compiz
[12:29] <drupin> how
[12:29] <drupin> let me see logs
[12:30] <drupin> compiz?
[12:30] <tsimpson> AdvoWork: they are defunct, that means that they're dead, just not cleared up by it's parent process
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> drupin  what is 'too many apps' and what apps are they?
[12:32] <drupin> Google chrome with 10 tabs... two terminal two thunar. etc
[12:32] <drupin> i am running a 32 bit OS on 64 bit core
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> drupin  it would have saved time, if you said all that in your first question
[12:34]  * dr_willis dident evn see the  first question. 
[12:36] <drupin> MonkeyDust: yeah... sorry for that
[12:36] <drupin> actually got mixed up
[12:37] <AdvoWork> tsimpson, how do i get rid of them then?
[12:37] <AdvoWork> or remove their parent process
[12:37] <lusong> hello everybody
[12:37] <drupin> dr_willis: running Google chrome with 10 tabs... two terminal two thunar. etc freezes my box...
[12:38] <nicferrier> I am having a frustrating issue with unity on 12.04. when alt-tab apps you have to wait for about a second before the new app actually gets focus. it makes keyboard switching very annoying. is this a general problem or is it me somehow?
[12:38] <drupin> http://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/  this is my system info dr_willis
[12:38] <tsimpson> AdvoWork: you don't need to, they are dead. if you really want them gone, then whatever process created them needs killing/ending
[12:38] <drupin> how i stop compiz MonkeyDust
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> drupin  by not using unity
[12:39] <dr_willis> i never have figured out why people need 5+ tabs open at a time.
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> drupin  install lxde or xfce or fallback and select that in the lightdm login menu
[12:40] <drupin> i need to runn around them here and there
[12:40] <dr_willis> if you want to save  some system resources then a lighter desktop/wm maay help a little
[12:40] <drupin> its ubuntustudio
[12:40] <dr_willis> lubuntu/lxde is the lightest ubuntu    full featured desktop
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> drupin  #ubuntustudio
[12:41] <drupin> but this is basic ubuntu queries
[12:41] <dr_willis> ubuntustudio i think used a different kernel by default also.
[12:41] <drupin> OIC
[12:41] <patrickgamer> is there a set of specialized/customized Ubuntu Server images for small devbox use (read: dedicated Apache, dedicated MySQL, etc. with low system requirements)? I don't want to spend the time tweaking if I don't have to.
[12:41] <dr_willis> install lubuntu, see if thgat desktop preforms better i guess.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> patrickgamer  there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:41] <theplanet> guys, i need to stop sshd and keep it from running at boot
[12:42] <drupin> lubuntu ok
[12:42] <dr_willis> set up flashblock in the browser so flash dosent hog the system.
[12:42] <patrickgamer> MonkeyDust:  kk thanks
[12:42] <dr_willis> theplanet:  you want to start it by hand if needed?
[12:42] <theplanet> dr_willis, yeah
[12:43] <drupin> let me login again with xfce desktop
[12:43] <dr_willis> theplanet:  then you need to find/edit that sshd.conf upstart file to make it not autorun. or i think theres some sorrt of 'override' file also
[12:44] <theplanet> where are upstart files located
[12:44] <dr_willis> !upstart
[12:44] <dr_willis>   /etc/init  i think
[12:49] <AdvoWork> tsimpson, can i find what process created them?
[12:52] <theplanet> dr_willis, is removing that conf file enough?
[12:52] <Guest19914> o
[12:52] <Guest19914> ciao
[12:52] <Guest19914> !list
[12:53] <dr_willis> theplanet:  rename it to sshd.dontrun  will disable it
[12:54] <dr_willis> theplanet:  but then the service command cant start it
[12:55] <theplanet> oh
[12:56] <theuser> i have a ubuntu laptop that turns it self of quite frequently
[12:57] <theuser> i dont have time to see what the messages on the console is before it shuts down
[12:57] <theuser> which logfiles would contain this info
[12:57] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[12:58] <dr_willis> theplanet:  check the above.  more info then i will ever need.
[12:59] <theplanet> thanks dr_willis
[13:00] <theplanet> i think i am leaving ubuntu
[13:00] <theplanet> for fedora
[13:01] <theplanet> i need selinux's ability to restrict directories to certain binaries
[13:01] <retyuli> ciao
[13:01] <retyuli> =)
[13:01] <retyuli> !list
[13:01] <k1l_> !ot > theplanet
[13:02] <Wilson2B> Hi all...
[13:05] <namidark> How can I get mdadm to add 2 new disks to a raid0 set? Everything I try (combos of --grow and --add don't work); mdadm --add /dev/md127 /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi is my latest attempt and its giving me a add new device failed for /dev/xvdh as 2: Invalid argument
[13:07] <fantaghir> can anybody tell me what development tool could I use to write helloworld app for windows phone 8? because I tried VS express 2010 but it is 7.5 phone only
[13:07] <de> hello, gnome shell does not run well on my ubuntu 12.04
[13:07] <tambu> Hey guys, ubuntu 12.04 update replaced graphics drivers and now i just get a blank screen after selecting the grub prompt, isn't there a way to add "quiet splash text" to the grub command to make it boot into console? I know about doing it in /etc/default/grub but I can't get into that file without being able to see
[13:07] <de> but my hardware is more than up to par for it
[13:07] <TJ-> namidark: I think you'll need to tell it which RAID level as well
[13:08] <SwedeMike> namidark: mdadm --manage /dev/md127 --add /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi doesn't work? what kernel version and mdadm version are you using?
[13:08] <tf81_netbook> whats going on with the ppa nvidia drivers? gdm won't start unless i remove them
[13:08] <winxpvbox> tf81_netbook: ppas are unsupported here
[13:08] <Wilson2B> Unity screwed my 12.04
[13:09] <Wilson2B> wierd graphic blanks out and has a bunch of errors.
[13:09] <SwedeMike> namidark: you should go to #linux-raid channel btw, greater chance that someone will know the answer there.
[13:09] <tf81_netbook> winxpvbox:  its the ubuntu x-swat ppa
[13:09] <Wilson2B> I went into software center and removed/reinstalled Unity and Compiz
[13:09] <Wilson2B> no problem in 2D mode
[13:11] <tf81_netbook> the error i get is the kernel module has version 304.43, component has version 304.51
[13:12] <winxpvbox> tf81_netbook: all ppas are unsupported
[13:12] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; no luck so far
[13:12] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; no luck so far
[13:13] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ; do u have any other solution to fix my sound
[13:13] <OerHeks> tf81_netbook, contact the maintainer of the ppa
[13:13] <tf81_netbook> and where do i do that?
[13:13] <tf81_netbook> i'm in cli only
[13:14] <OerHeks> tf81_netbook, @ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[13:15] <namidark> SwedeMike: nope; same error; mdadm - v3.2.5 and 3.2.0-29-virtual
[13:15] <namidark> k :)
[13:15] <TJ-> namidark: I tested here: "sudo mdadm --grow  --raid-devices=3 --add /dev/md127 /dev/xvdh /dev/xvdi"
[13:16] <tf81_netbook> OerHeks:  who is the maintainer of the ubuntu x-swat ppa?
[13:16] <TJ-> namidark: When growing a RAID0 you need to add the spares *and* increase the number of disks in the same command, hence using "--raid-devices=X" to tell it the new number of disks in the array
[13:16] <namidark> TJ-: wouldn't it be 4 if im adding 2 to an existing 2?
[13:16] <TJ-> namidark: Of course -  I was testing it from a base of 1
[13:16] <OerHeks> tf81_netbook, i don't know
[13:16] <alycolas> hello
[13:17] <namidark> TJ-: it worked :D
[13:17] <TJ-> namidark: ker-ching :p
[13:17] <tf81_netbook> oh nevermind, pc works with the slightly older nvidia.run file i hadn't deleted yet
[13:17] <tf81_netbook> i'll just use it until i download the newer one from the nvidia site
[13:17] <TimothyA> I have come across an urgent issue. I find myself to be unable to start another SSH session to my server, and I'm getting this in /var/log/auth.log: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key
[13:17] <TimothyA> anyone could help me with that?
[13:18] <A[D]minS> !openstack
[13:18] <roka> hey there
[13:18] <TJ-> TimothyA: see bug #1005440
[13:19] <roka> i cannot connect to wifi. anyone could help me?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> roka: what wifi chip?
[13:19] <roka> realtek
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> roka: ok, which realtek wifi chip please?
[13:20] <TimothyA> TJ-: that bug describes they can still connect successfully
[13:20] <roka> how can i check that,
[13:20] <roka> ?
[13:20] <TimothyA> I cannot connect at all
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> roka: sudo lshw -C network       will tell you
[13:20] <TimothyA> at least, it throws me auth before I can authenticate
[13:20] <namidark> TJ-: is it normal for it to say adding and then mdadm: /dev/md127: could not set level to raid0 ?
[13:20] <TimothyA> *out
[13:21] <roka> RTL8101E/RTL8102E
[13:21] <roka> this is my chipset
[13:21] <roka> i use ubuntu 12.04 lts
[13:21] <llutz> TimothyA: "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key"
[13:21] <Skapare> roka: 12.04.1 is out
[13:21] <theplanet> ecdsa is used now?
[13:22] <theplanet> that's good
[13:22] <roka> should i upgrade?
[13:22] <TimothyA> llutz: already did that. nothing changed
[13:22] <TimothyA> I still get thrown out
[13:22] <Skapare> roka: always ... but apt-get upgrade will do it in place
[13:22] <TimothyA> "Server unexpectedly closed connection"
[13:22] <theplanet> how do i get the source for sshd?
[13:22] <roka> okay i will try that
[13:23] <killer_> hi... i have installed kde and now i wanna uninstall unity how to do that ?
[13:23] <llutz> theplanet: http://www.openssh.org/
[13:23] <Skapare> theplanet: download ... lots of places and distros have copies
[13:23] <theplanet> llutz, cant i get it from aptitude somehow?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> theplanet  you mean the package source?
[13:23] <theplanet> `yea
[13:23] <llutz> theplanet: apt-get source ...
[13:23] <asker> hi
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> theplanet  apt-get source [pakage]
[13:24] <theplanet> thx
[13:24] <asker> How can i reset all drivers to default
[13:24] <asker> How can i reset all drivers to default ?
[13:24] <dr_willis> what dr
[13:25] <asker> hi
[13:25] <zykotick9> asker: depends, did you install drivers from outside ubuntu?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> roka: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172013/realtek-semiconductor-co-ltd-rtl8101e-rtl8102e?rq=1
[13:25] <dr_willis> since it depends on the driver
[13:25] <TimothyA> Sep 25 09:25:06 ns4001572 sshd[16401]: refused connect from
[13:25] <jwtiyar_> gdebi can not be closed and its freezing , how i can force close it?
[13:25] <asker> i used addional drivers but a problem to not connect wifi
[13:25] <theplanet> TimothyA, ssh -vvv user@host. read the output
[13:25] <theplanet> if you have't already
[13:26] <zykotick9> !aptlock | jwtiyar_ this might be handy for you shortly
[13:26] <twitchie> jwtiyar_: killall -9 gdebi
[13:26] <zykotick9> twitchie: don't suggest -9 until you know a regular kill/killall fails first...
[13:26] <jwtiyar_> twitchie, no process found
[13:27] <TimothyA> http://pastebin.com/AaiRtfrM
[13:28] <dr_willis> if its gui is showing  xkill can be used
[13:28] <jrib> bitbuzzer: you can install different colorschemes, or modify the one you use now.  #vim can help you more with modifying vim syntax coloring
[13:28] <roka> i already tried that
[13:28] <roka> no dice
[13:29] <bitbuzzer> jrib, thx
[13:30] <TimothyA> theplanet: http://pastebin.com/AaiRtfrM
[13:30] <mads-> j #ubuntu-dk-snak
[13:31] <bitbuzzer> jrib, a quick solution I found was to put "background=dark" in my .vimrc file, which gave me readable colors. I wasn't able to see comments since they were dark blue. thanks again
[13:31] <TimothyA> the same happens with putty under windows, but much less log data
[13:32] <mads-> Is there some good software for recording my screen? Pref. with sound
[13:32] <truexfan81> ok i downloaded the 304.51 .run file and installed it, i'm good now :)
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:33] <TimothyA> theplanet: thanks for remaining completely inert! I wouldn't have solved it otherwise
[13:33] <vivid> would it be possible to decouple compiz from unity?
[13:33] <Wizard> vivid: It's been done in Unity-2D.
[13:34] <vivid> yes, but you know, unity 2d ends at precise
[13:34] <Wizard> Than, the answer is "with a lot of hard work"
[13:34] <Wizard> Unity is in face a compiz plugin.
[13:34] <vivid> or, starting over with metacity
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> vivid  and no support, because nobody else has tried it
[13:35] <stewbydoo> I tried installing ubuntu on my external hard drive and everything seemed to work until I tried to run it there. Now I am getting this "HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': inavlid argument"
[13:35] <stewbydoo> I don't know why it is looking at sdb it should be looking at sd
[13:35] <Guest16923> Is this where I go for help?
[13:35] <stewbydoo> sdc*
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest16923  this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:36] <vivid> MonkeyDust, well, the problems ive been facing with unity/compiz are all still the same as when it released.  so, not much support there either
[13:36] <Wizard> vivid: Still the same? What do you mean?
[13:36] <vivid> panel over fullscreen, buggy opacity, buggy settings, buggy fullscreen apps, lower framerates
[13:37] <vivid> you know, the same stuff
[13:37] <Guest16923> Thanks MonkeyDust. Complete noob fleeing from windows. Any suggestions?
[13:37] <vivid> i mean, it cant be that hard to set metacity to compositing and use something like docky to fake the launcher...
[13:38] <winxpvbox> Guest16923: one suggestion: change your nick
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest16923  use a live cd or usb to get used to ubuntu
[13:38] <Madox> hello at all. can anyone tell me, why I could not find fieldrunners in USC? it is not shown, but listet here: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/fieldrunners/
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> oh, a game
[13:40] <tacirus> Did anybody achieve to use bash functions in Easystroke?
[13:40] <DJones> Madox: What version of Ubuntu are you using
[13:41] <Madox> hello DJones: i am using ubuntu 12.04 x64
[13:41] <vivid> not available for me either
[13:42] <DJones> Madox: Same as me, doesn't show for me either
[13:45] <DJones> Madox: Looks like there's been a problem with it and its not in USC, I found a like explaining how to install it on the forums though (if that helps) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042857
[13:45] <Madox> DJones: thx. so it seem a problem in general (?)
[13:46] <Madox> DJones: ok, readed your last message to late. thank you
[13:49] <jmtheron> Hello after a clean install of ubuntu server how do i get a ip  from the dhcp server(a different windows server)
[13:49] <arabi> hello guys i need an urgent help please please
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> vivid  if you don't care about the compositor and the launcher, you could also switch to a different desktop environment
[13:49] <arabi> i am tired installing ruby on rails on ubuntu :(
[13:49] <jordanm> jmtheron: dhclient eth0
[13:50] <arabi> anyone know exactly how to setup ruby on rails on precise ?
[13:50] <arabi> thanks in advance
[13:50] <jmtheron> tried dhclient eth0 but then when i do ifconfig there is no ip
[13:50] <jmtheron> ...for  eth0
[13:50] <arabi> hello pleas help to setup ruby on rails on ubuntu
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> arabi  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[13:51] <basz> Hi does anyone know if there is more up-to-date roundcube (webmail) available. apt-get install 0.7.1-2 (while they are at 0.7.3 or 0.8.1.
[13:51] <TJ-> jmtheron: check /var/log/syslog for clues as to whether dhclient is getting a DHCPOFFER
[13:51] <basz> i'm on 12.04LTS
[13:51] <arabi> Dust I have gone thorugh that allready
[13:52] <arabi> I always getting error related to sqllite3 :(
[13:52] <TJ-> arabi: Show is the exact error you're seeing, then we may be able to help
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> arabi  looks it's a apache and server thing, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:53] <arabi> Gem::Installer::ExtensionBuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
[13:53] <arabi>         /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 extconf.rb
[13:53] <arabi> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- mkmf (LoadError)
[13:53] <arabi> 	from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require'
[13:53] <arabi> 	from extconf.rb:3:in `<main>'
[13:53] <arabi> Gem files will remain installed in /home/arabi/.bundler/tmp/9416/gems/sqlite3-1.3.6 for inspection.
[13:53] <FloodBot1> arabi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <arabi> Results logged to /home/arabi/.bundler/tmp/9416/gems/sqlite3-1.3.6/ext/sqlite3/gem_make.out
[13:53] <dr_willis> basz:  look for a ppa yet?
[13:53] <basz> dr_willis: I'm not sure how to do that - but I just found this http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/roundcube
[13:54] <dr_willis> !ppa > basz
[13:54] <arabi> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226649/ this is the ERROR please help
[13:54] <TJ-> arabi: What does this report? "which ruby"
[13:55] <arabi> ruby 1.8.7
[13:55] <arabi> TJ what i have to do
[13:56] <vivid> MonkeyDust, no i kind of like the unity.  especially the dash which isnt available in the alternatives
[13:56] <arabi> http://toranbillups.com/blog/archive/2010/09/01/How-to-install-Rails-3.0-and-Ruby-1.9.2-on-Ubuntu/  I have followed this tutorial exactly
[13:56] <Freqit> Hi. I'm using ubuntu samba as PDC, for some reason the XP machines can't connect to each other correctly (needed for some office applications). When I try to ping "XPmachine02" from "XPmaxchine01"'s cmd it resolves some WAN-IP, not the correct LAN-IP. I think it might be a problem with the samba pdc configuration but I'm not sure. Can anybody advise?
[13:56] <vivid> MonkeyDust, just looking for ways to solve the problems im having....which seem to go away with metacity....which is why i asked my original question
[13:57] <yyz> qui
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> vivid  then you may want to submit an idea in !brainstorm
[13:57] <vivid> they wont like my idea
[13:57] <TJ-> arabi: The error messages mentions the path for ruby 1.9.1 but it seems the default ruby is 1.8.7. I think you'll need to change the default ruby version using update_alternatives
[13:57] <arabi> TJ I have been trying it for two days :( no idea what to do
[13:57] <Freqit> (NET TREE in windows' cmd  shows all the names correctly, so does smbtree under ubuntu shell)
[13:58] <arabi> TJ letme try that
[13:58] <vivid> MonkeyDust, actually while i was outside having a coffee just now, my idea was to download unity2d and maintain it myself :P but it needs window snapping and some other additions
[13:58] <basz> dr_willis: thx. I know about the existence of pap's I just can never work out how to do it and am unsure about it's possible conflicts with existing installations… what would the ppa for this package be?
[13:58] <TJ-> arabi: "sudo update-alternatives --config ruby"
[13:58] <unicorn> Hi there
[13:58] <usr13> Freqit: Sounds like a network problem.
[13:59] <usr13> Freqit: You might use router config to set permanent leases.
[14:00] <lordlucan> Can someone help me with xbmcbuntu and wireless please?
[14:00] <TJ-> Freqit: The clients will be using WINS for name resolution. Your Samba PDC will need to be running nbmd configured as the WINS server and its address given out as a DHCP option
[14:00] <unicorn> Does anyone know how I can add a compose key on my keymap? I would like that AltGr + o renders a 'œ'...
[14:00] <nsudo> folks need a vpn to browse sites in usa for ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <TJ-> nsudo: Set up a free minimal AWS instance at a US data-center
[14:02] <nsudo> TJ Please elaborate i am a newbee
[14:02] <nsudo> TJ- Please elaborate i am a newbee
[14:03] <TJ-> nsudo: I take it you need to access a US site that restricts access based on geographical location?
[14:03] <jmtheron> VMware/ubuntu question. ok i think the dhcp problem is not with problem server but my vm i have my network adapter  set to bridge is this correct?
[14:03] <nsudo> TJ- Yes
[14:03] <OerHeks> nsudo pay for an VPN, and connect to it > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[14:03] <jmtheron> even if i set a static ip i can ping the routers.
[14:04] <nsudo> 0erHeks O'
[14:04] <nsudo> TJ- Thx
[14:05] <Freqit> usr13 , TJ- : it worked fine until we changed our router. Whatever name i try to ping from my win machines, they ping the OpenDNS IP 67.215.65.132
[14:06] <TJ-> nsudo: OK, so, get a free Amazon Web Services virtual server instance (minimal profile), install openvpn into it. Configure it and your PC to use openvpn to create an IP tunnel ("tun" not "tap" interface), configure the AWS instance for IP masquerading, and set a route on your local PC that sends all traffic for the US sites via the tunnel. That way, the destination site sees a US-based public IP address accessing it.
[14:06] <usr13> Freqit: Yep. It's a network issue.  You'll find solution(s) in router config
[14:06] <TJ-> Freqit: Is the router responsible for DHCP? If so, have you configured it to issue the WINS option to clients?
[14:06] <nsudo> TJ- Great! Bravo
[14:08] <TJ-> Freqit: My local dnsmasq DHCP server has this for WINS: "dhcp-option=44,10.254.251.1"
[14:08] <Freqit> usr13 , TJ- : it's a cisco RV042. It acts as the DHCP server (range 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.120), it uses the OpenDNS as it's primary DNS. No WINS setting is set.
[14:09] <TJ-> Freqit: Which means the XP clients will fall-back to using regular DNS to resolve the hosts
[14:10] <TJ-> Freqit: Set option 44 to the IP of your PDC that is doing WINS, in the router
[14:10] <Freqit> TJ- so I have to tell the router the linux machine is the WINS Server and set Samba to act as one?
[14:10] <TJ-> Freqit: Yes. Probably the Samba server is already configured to do WINS, but changing the router stopped option 44 being send to to DHCP clients
[14:11] <AdvoWork> i did a time rsync ..... and it says: real	395m6.208s user	31m19.605s sys	4m41.142s  is that the time bit?
[14:11] <AdvoWork> i assume so, but does it literally mean the time it took to do the whole thing, i dont get the 3 diff sections>?
[14:11] <Jamey_> Hum
[14:11] <Freqit> sorry to sound dumb, but you lost me at "option 44". the smb.conf has the WINS part commented out.
[14:12] <Jamey_> j adore
[14:12] <Freqit> (or am i mixing stuff up here?)
[14:12] <Jamey_> oula
[14:12] <Jamey_> trop cool
[14:12] <Pumpkin-> AdvoWork: the "real" time is how long it took in clock time, from start to finish. The user and sys times are how much of your systems time it took (in user and kernel space).
[14:12] <jmtheron>  VMware/ubuntu question.after i set my ip to 192.168.0.40/24 i cant ping 192.168.0.1/24(my router)  i have my network adapter  set to bridge is this correct?
[14:12] <Npc> my laptop keeps dropping wireless connection, yet works well when using windows
[14:12] <Npc> any idea what could cause this?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Npc: its a completely different OS with different suppor
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> *support
[14:13] <Npc> yeah but one might expect an os to provide at least some level of connectivity these days
[14:14] <magarwal> how can i upgrade my perl version on ubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS without effecting any of the processes
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Npc: what wifi chip do you use?
[14:14] <magarwal> my perl version is 5.15 and i want to upgrade it to 5.16
[14:14] <Npc> some realtek i think
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Npc: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     it will tell you
[14:15] <BadDesign> How do you add a manual page to the MANPATH I have tryed to add to .bashrc: export MANPATH="$MANPATH: /home/username/Software/CMake2.8.9/man/man1/ " but doesn't work
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | magarwal
[14:15] <AdvoWork> Pumpkin-, thanks for that, much appreciated
[14:15] <magarwal> thanks
[14:15] <TJ-> Freqit: "option 44" is a DHCP server option that will be needed in the router. That will be the IP address of the Samba server. On the Samba server, smb.conf should enable WINS server
[14:16] <TJ-> Freqit: Once the router and server are configured, and "sudo service nmbd restart" done, the clients will need to obtain new DHCP leases to receive option 44.
[14:16] <Npc> realtek RTL8191SEvA
[14:16] <magarwal> can i remove the existing perl simply by apt-get remove
[14:16] <magarwal> and then do the install
[14:17] <foo357> Hello, how do I uninstall python-based software?
[14:17] <jrib> foo357: depends how you installed it
[14:17] <AdvoWork> Pumpkin-, so 395m6.208s is 395 minutes, and 6.208seconds? or 6 seconds . 208 ms?
[14:17] <foo357> jrib: I installed it from soure
[14:17] <jrib> foo357: depends how you installed it from source
[14:17] <Npc> after reboot wlan seems to work for a while
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Npc: ok now you can use that to find guides etc
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Npc: may also be a known bug
[14:18] <Npc> well what i have found has been to disable power management
[14:18] <Npc> but that doesn't help
[14:18] <Npc> or restart networking but that doesn't help either
[14:19] <Npc> could not using network manager help?
[14:19] <Pierreb> hi I'm trying to enable ssh for my ubuntu 12.04 machine but i can't connect to it, is there some setting in a firewall/selinux or whatever i have to change?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Npc: could disable n speed using module options may help. Also disable ipv6 with the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Npc: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see a lot of wireless networks using the same channel?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Npc: may help if all else fails: http://samiux.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/howto-rtl8191se-wireless-card-on.html
[14:24] <Npc> i see a lot of networks
[14:24] <Npc> some are maybe on a same channel
[14:26] <Npc> is ubuntu using some default driver and not realtek's official?
[14:26] <usr13> Pierreb: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:27] <JamieJ> Hi. Does anyone know of open source software that allows temporary file hosting?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Npc: if you have a lot on the same channel, you'll have connection issues
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> JamieJ: samba, various ftp and sftp servers.....
[14:28] <Npc> ActionParsnip: this runs well for a moment and then just becomes unusable, with windows it is mostly usable
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Npc: i'd look at changing channel, may help
[14:29] <JamieJ> ActionParsnip: I mean like ready to go software that'll just turn a domain into a ready-made site
[14:29] <JamieJ> I know they exist, just can't think of the name
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> JamieJ: website isn't really file hosting, do you want a web server or a file server
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> JamieJ  you mean drupal?
[14:31] <Npc> ActionParsnip: this is the uni's network, can't change them
[14:31] <fluitfries> hi, i issued the wrong usermod command and removed my user from all the groups it needed to be in.  can anyone help me re-add that user to the groups?  Lubuntu.
[14:32] <Pierreb> usr13: something was wrong with it but a restart solved it
[14:32] <zykotick9> fluitfries: for next time, -a for append for usermod
[14:33] <fluitfries> zykotick9, yea, i know that now!!
[14:33] <vivid> fluitfries, gnome-system-tools package also includes a GUI for your ease of modification
[14:33] <fluitfries> zykotick9, i've got the lubuntu root filesystem mounted in my backtrack install, so i can edit the groups files...
[14:33] <zykotick9> fluitfries: bad idea.  but good luck.
[14:34] <fluitfries> vivid, ok, a gui would probably help me.  :)
[14:35] <jmtheron> how do i install kde without all the other desktop software on ubuntu?
[14:35] <fluitfries> zykotick9, should i boot off a Lubuntu Live CD instead of using my BackTrack install to edit the group files??
[14:35] <cheteen> hi
[14:36] <zykotick9> fluitfries: i'd use Recovery mode myself.  and edit group files is the part i think is a "poor" (bad is a little too harsh) idea, use the proper command.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> jmtheron: sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[14:36] <cheteen> anybody can help me?
[14:36] <bazhang> cheteen, ask the channel
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> cheteen: without asking, no
[14:37] <fluitfries> zykotick9, the reading i have been doing suggests that i might need to edit at least one group file in order to get my user back into the admin group, then suggests issuing the commands for the rest of the group repairs...  sound right?
[14:37] <cheteen> how I can join channel?
[14:37] <bazhang>  /join #channel cheteen
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> cheteen: /join #channelname
[14:37] <cheteen> I need help for turkish channel
[14:37] <cheteen> I didnt see
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[14:37] <bazhang> !tr | cheteen
[14:37] <cheteen> ok ty
[14:38] <vivid> do you guys have a country code cheatsheet or something?
[14:38] <zykotick9> fluitfries: that's why "recovery" mode would be beneficial.
[14:38] <bazhang> vivid, the ubottu factoids
[14:38] <fluitfries> zykotick9, ok, i'll look into it, thanks.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !brain | vivid
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> vivid  sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> oops
[14:43] <agc93> Has anyone on here set up a PPTP VPN on Ubuntu? (client only)
[14:44] <jmtheron> thanks ppl that was the info i was looking for
[14:45] <LarsN> is there a dedicated #ubuntu-(something) room for www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[14:46] <agc93> LarsN: not an official one, at least
[14:46] <foo357> Hello, is there some way I can make a command execute after the current one is finished (without scripting)?
[14:47] <agc93> foo357: you can use command1 && command2
[14:47] <agc93> or command1; command2
[14:47] <LarsN> agc93: message received.
[14:47] <agc93> the first one will mean that command2 will only run if command1 is successful. The second version just runs them both regardless
[14:47] <zykotick9> foo357: the && means after 1st completed successfully, run 2nd
[14:47] <vivid> agc93, where is the download for ubuntu android?
[14:48] <crizis> nowhere
[14:48] <LarsN> vivid: I "suspect" there isn't one yet.
[14:48] <vivid> so its just a proof of concept page? looks interesting
[14:48] <LarsN> vivid: at least not outside Canonical.
[14:48] <crizis> it'll be only for handset makers
[14:48] <agc93> vivid: not exactly Proof of concept. It's an OEM-level product
[14:48] <vivid> so but, its GPL'ed right?
[14:48] <agc93> as crizis said, its only for the manufacturers to ship with their devices
[14:48] <agc93> vivid: who knows
[14:49] <LarsN> I'd like very much to have an Ubuntu Set Top Box, and Ubuntu on my Android phone. :)
[14:49] <agc93> LarsN: wouldnt we all? :P
[14:49] <crizis> well, it's just arm build of ubuntu, so yes, it'll be open
[14:49] <vivid> yea, looks like a cool idea, dont really like it as much if i have to buy a specific vendor's device though : (
[14:49] <crizis> the problems start when you actually wanna run it on your phone... :)
[14:49] <administrator> how to block usb in ubuntu
[14:49] <agc93> crizis: it's a bit more than that, though. It's a whole webtop layer across Android.
[14:49] <vivid> have any of you tried it?
[14:50] <Guest78241> how to block usb in ubuntu ?
[14:50] <agc93> vivid: I very much doubt that. Not in any production phones yet, so a bit tricky.
[14:50] <agc93> Guest78421: what do you mean?
[14:50] <vivid> bummer, id really like to get a day to hack on it
[14:50] <LarsN> I've got Ubuntu running on Android on my HP Touchpad.  but it's not exactly the experience I want.
[14:50] <LarsN> VNC into Ubuntu from Android leaves a lot to be desired.
[14:50] <agc93> LarsN: Yeah, the chroot/virtual is never as good
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> LarsN: what do you do on the remote system?
[14:51] <LarsN> ActionParsnip: with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse it's an almost usable computer.
[14:51] <vivid> LarsN, seems like the best part of ubuntu for android is that you have a good interface while only using the phone
[14:51] <LarsN> ActionParsnip: although the VNC, chroot, virtual bits make it a bit slow.
[14:51] <vivid> versus trying to play with unity..
[14:52] <adoet_t> LarsN: depend your sdcard class
[14:52] <LarsN> I've been giving unity a chance this time around.
[14:52] <Guest78241> how to block usb in ubuntu ?
[14:52] <vivid> LarsN, no i mean on a tiny phone screen
[14:52] <LarsN> adoet_t: hp touchpad, doesn't have an sd card.  32gb of internal storage :)
[14:52] <agc93> Guest78241: what do you mean by block?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest78241: you can take a user out of the plugdev group
[14:52] <LarsN> vivid: ah, yeah.
[14:52] <Guest78241> would like to block USB ports
[14:53] <adoet_t> oh
[14:53] <Guest78241> means not want to use pen drive any more
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest78241: I believe it will stop the new devices being detected and reacted to when they are connected
[14:53] <agc93> Guest78241: so no one can use them? Just take all the user accounts out of plugdev. Should do the job.
[14:53] <Guest78241> somthing like that
[14:53] <agc93> As ActionParsnip said, actually :P
[14:54] <Guest78241> how can i procd ?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest78241: take the user out of the group, when it next logs in, it will be in effect
[14:55] <storm-trooper> Hi, I have a non PAE laptop (Dell X1) and I'm having no luck upgrading to 12.4 It's currently on 10.10 Any sugestions?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> storm-trooper: you will need to clean install to make that jump
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> storm-trooper: or you can upgrade to Natty, then to Oneiric, then to Precise
[14:56] <Guest78241> do you have any documents for that so it wil gre8 help for me
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest78241: what is gre8 please?
[14:56] <Guest78241> great help
[14:57] <Guest78241> do you have any documents for that so it will great  help for me
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest78241: http://maketecheasier.com/add-remove-user-to-groups-in-ubuntu/2012/07/30
[14:58] <storm-trooper> ActionParsnip: Tried that multiple flavors from net install to mini. Still no dice.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> storm-trooper: the xubuntu and lubuntu Ubuntu's do not use PAE by default
[14:59] <THE_GFR|WORK> storm-trooper: maybe you need to buy some dice if you have none?
[14:59] <Guest78241> i refer that but i stuck on USB pen drive blocking so pls share tme how to block the same
[14:59] <THE_GFR|WORK> Guest14984: please be less specific.
[15:00] <THE_GFR|WORK> Guest78241: that was for you
[15:00] <Guest78241> i refer that link but could not work with my requirements
[15:01] <storm-trooper> ActionParsnip: Will try xubuntu  Thanks.
[15:04] <hsnmck> hello, I have an encrypted file, the encryption is supposed to be very weak and I'm trying to decrypt it. I noticed that it has a string repeated a lot of time in the file... can anyone give me any hint on what is the encryption of this file? thanks.. this is the file: http://nova.polymtl.ca/~hamaka/secret-blueprint.encrypted
[15:05] <Josh_> Hello
[15:05] <Josh_> I installed cinnamon a while ago
[15:06] <Josh_> I am using it uptil now, without any problems, then I found out that the window manager is called muffin
[15:06] <ikonia> hsnmck: how do you know the encyption is weak if you don't know what type of encyption it is
[15:06] <Josh_> so I sudo apt-get install muffin
[15:06] <Josh_> Now, How do I switch from this Window manager
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: cinammon isn't supported here
[15:06] <hsnmck> ikonia, the person who encrypted told me
[15:07] <Josh_> ActionParsnip, This isn't related to cinnamon
[15:07] <Josh_> Kindly, read again
[15:07] <ikonia> hsnmck: ok, so he should be able to tell you what he used to encypt
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace    yuo will be using metacity as the WM
[15:07] <hsnmck> ikonia, he's a prof :p
[15:07] <Josh_> I would like to know "How to switch Window manager"
[15:07] <ikonia> hsnmck: so ?
[15:07] <ikonia> hsnmck: he can tell you what type of encyption he used.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: and I ghave told you so, kindly read again
[15:07] <hsnmck> hsnmck, well I'm supposed to find out
[15:07] <Josh_> You told that later, dear sir.
[15:07] <ikonia> hsnmck: ok - then that's not an "ubuntu" problem
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: i have now told you :)
[15:08] <Josh_> mmhmm
[15:08] <Josh_> Well, I did metacity --replace
[15:08] <Josh_> Now I lost everything :D
[15:08] <Josh_> Including "taskbar" and all
[15:08] <Josh_> :P
[15:08] <Josh_> Do I press Ctrl+C?
[15:09] <Josh_> How do I get everything back without reboot
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: press ALT+F2 and run:  windowmanagername --replace     its how you switch WM... so the switching back method you already knew
[15:14] <fredders> hey guys any1 here who would know why my comp detects my HDMI port as my primary audio output?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> fredders: just change the audio device in the sound options
[15:14] <dr_willis> mine defaults to hdmi also ive noticed
[15:15] <fredders> I have done that but it just changes back again
[15:15] <dr_willis> when? om bootup?
[15:15] <fredders> yeah
[15:15] <fredders> I had it working earlier today. Then now it just changed back and won't play nice
[15:16] <dr_willis> but not during the session?
[15:16] <fredders> I get system audio from the speakers. But all applications are directed to the HDMI output
[15:20] <quixotedon> i'm using 12.04 updated yesterday, I've just realized that the bluetooth setting is not available such as adding a new connection and searching a device though i can turn it on using hardware switch
[15:20] <Josh_> ActionParsnip, So how you make it permenent :P
[15:20] <tommy28> ciao
[15:20] <dr_willis> no lists pleaase....
[15:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:21] <dr_willis> its getting to be a 'meme' ;)
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> quixotedon  try blueman
[15:21] <BluesKaj> why do the italians still think this is file sharing channel
[15:21] <fredders> Doctor, I'll be back after I've tried this fix
[15:22] <dr_willis> i wonder if its not an on join script
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: if you run: hcitool dev    do you see a bluetooth device
[15:22] <quixotedon> MonkeyDust: is it blueman or bluemon?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> they must know by now that it's not
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> quixotedon  blueman, for manager
[15:22] <dr_willis> we need a file bot to share ubuntu isosss with them
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: that'd be cool
[15:23] <quixotedon> MonkeyDust: the package is only bluemon found
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  there are a few million italians
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> !info blueman > quixotedon
[15:23] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, but how many use freenode or eben irc
[15:24] <BluesKaj> even
[15:24] <savio> hey i have port 53 open means i'm running named is it necessary for desktop user can i stop named service
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> what's port 53 again?
[15:24] <tommy28> ciciciao
[15:25] <DJones> !it | tommy28
[15:25] <twitchie> DNS/bind
[15:25] <tommy28> ok grazie
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> port 53/UDP is DNS
[15:26] <savio> ActionParsnip, port 53/tcp is also dns but use for zone transfer ?
[15:26] <savio> am i  right?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> savio: makes sense
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[15:27] <savio> ActionParsnip, i think named service is not useful for desktop users can stop the service is ok?
[15:27] <quixotedon> MonkeyDust: is bluemon the same with blueman? it's nowhere around
[15:28] <dr_willis> named service is bind? and its not installed by default i thought
[15:28] <quixotedon> MonkeyDust: ah, thanks it's in synaptic not through terminal anyway
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> quixotedon  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> ok
[15:29] <quixotedon> you wanna know?
[15:29] <savio> what is dnsmasq on port 53
[15:29] <dr_willis> !info dnsmasq
[15:30] <Umo>  Hey guys, my network interface is regognized a boot and seems to be running but it wont work until I run ifdown and ifup again. Any suggestions?
[15:30] <quixotedon> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[15:30] <dr_willis> i thhought dnsmasq was default installed on 12.04
[15:30] <savio> is it necessary?
[15:30] <sileni> hey guys
[15:30] <savio> dr_willis, yeah it is
[15:31] <dr_willis> savio:  id leave it alone.
[15:31] <sileni> I seem to have lengthy boot up times now on ubuntu 12.05. I used to use ubuntu sometime ago (11.10 ish i think) and the bootup time was around 2-3 minutes then
[15:31] <sileni> do you guys know of any major changes that is causing this for users?
[15:31] <sileni> dmesg doesn't seem to show anything fishy
[15:31] <savio> dr_willis, i thinking to filter that port
[15:32] <dr_willis> savio:  i never noticed it being open to the network. just to localhost
[15:32] <savio> dr_willis, ok
[15:32] <dr_willis> savio:  so you m ay be worried about nothing
[15:33] <dr_willis> i could be wrong. ;) try nmaping the machine from another on the lan
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: it is :)
[15:33] <savio> dr_willis, from virtual machine will do this?
[15:34] <dr_willis> vm's can be set up in different ways.    so no idea
[15:35] <dr_willis> savio:  seems its not really an security issue.and it makes looookups quicker
[15:35] <dr_willis> silly keybord
[15:35] <savio> few days ago my download folder from home is got deleted and i don't know how i'm only user
[15:35] <sileni> something is seriously wrong...I can't go to unity's dashboard search and type "terminal" it used to bring up the gnome-terminal
[15:35] <sileni> but now it can't find it
[15:36] <savio> sileni, wait for few min then try
[15:36] <sileni> savio: i don't understand why I need to wait
[15:36] <savio> sileni, sometimes it takes time to load
[15:36] <sileni> savio: It just says there is nothing to match my search
[15:37] <sliddjur> my laptop with ubuntu 12.04 is making a very low clicking sound and seems to turn of and on the sound (the mute button is blinking on and off). this only occurs when i am not playing any sound. this is a HP compaq 6910p and I think the sound codec is a AD1981HD ?
[15:37] <savio> sileni, i just suggest you no big deal
[15:38] <dr_willis> blinking mute led.. weird
[15:38] <sileni> savio: what?
[15:38] <dr_willis> wonder if the mute button is mute/unmuteing and stuck
[15:38] <savio> sileni, nothing
[15:38] <sileni> savio: I didn't meant to come off as aggressive. I just don't think waiting is solving the problem
[15:39] <dr_willis> sileni:  see if it works for a new user.. see if any searches work?
[15:39] <savio> sileni, sometimes it does on my machine
[15:42] <hectorthewellend> hello
[15:42] <_google_360_baid> hello
[15:44] <_google_360_baid> 有人吗
[15:44] <aniasis> If I set the DISPLAY on a shell to the IP of my desktop and run an X windows application it should show on my desktop correct?
[15:44] <bazhang> !cn | _google_360_baid
[15:44] <dr_willis> aniasis:  you may need to use 'xhost +' also
[15:45] <dr_willis> aniasis:  and thers may be other security things depending on the connection
[15:46] <dr_willis> ssh's x forwarding makes  it easier
[16:00] <sambagirl> what java are you supposed to install?
[16:01] <sambagirl> how can you identify your ver from shell?
[16:02] <sambagirl> what command do you enter to learn the version your running from a shell?>
[16:02] <InsaneGene> hey guys, Does any one know how to use (install and configure ) openvpn ?
[16:02] <jordanm> java -version
[16:02] <Crimethinker> Nope.
[16:02] <jordanm> InsaneGene: apt-get install openvpn
[16:02] <BluesKaj> sambagirl, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras unless you're a java dev then you'll need tot do some reserearch
[16:02] <sambagirl> ok
[16:03] <sambagirl> thanks
[16:03] <InsaneGene> jordanm, I did that but what next ?
[16:03] <sambagirl> chrome is becoming messy in my mind...thanks
[16:03] <compdoc> InsaneGene, openvpn is all about getting the config files right on the server and on the client
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[16:03] <Crimethinker> Can anyone help me with my Nvidia problem?
[16:03] <InsaneGene> compdoc, where can i get the config file ?
[16:04] <compdoc> InsaneGene, you can google up many examples, but its all a matter of testing
[16:04] <jordanm> InsaneGene: you write it, i believe there is an example included in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/
[16:05] <Crimethinker> Suppose not...
[16:05] <bazhang> Crimethinker, ask the channel
[16:05] <Crimethinker> Er, um, how? Sorry, I'm relatively new to IRC.
[16:06] <bazhang> Crimethinker, just ask
[16:06] <Crimethinker> Can anyone help with my
[16:06] <Crimethinker> Nvidia problem?
[16:06] <bazhang> !details | Crimethinker
[16:07]  * Crimethinker facepalms
[16:07] <Crimethinker> I derped.
[16:08] <Crimethinker> Well, when I started up the live version of Xubuntu 12.04 LTS, OpenGL worked fine. When I installed it, however, it just gives me some vague GLX error.
[16:08] <bobweaver> hello there what screen caster's do you all use, gtk no workie and neither does kazzam  I have installed some other's but they are also not working. any tips
[16:08] <InsaneGene> jordan, compdoc , I don't have my own server, a friend of mine uses openvpn for windows and it has a interface and connect to vpn server I guess that it owned by Openvpn.org people, can I do something smiler in ubuntu?
[16:08] <bazhang> bobweaver, what others
[16:08] <Crimethinker> My drivers are installed and everything.
[16:09] <bobweaver> bazhang,  record it now
[16:09] <compdoc> InsaneGene, i use a free firewall with openvpn built in, but sure, openvn runs on anything
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !screencast > bobweaver
[16:09] <vdf_987e> ciao
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> list?
[16:10] <derpson> hi
[16:10] <InsaneGene> compdoc, so I what i need now is a configuration file, where can i get that from?
[16:10] <ewaters64> hello
[16:10] <Crimethinker> Hi.
[16:10] <bobweaver> Istanbul dont work , also xvidacap is not in the ubuntu ppa anymore
[16:10] <bobweaver> !info xvidacap
[16:11] <derpson> i'm getting my new x230 tomorrow, would you advise me to wait for 12.10 or get the beta release? is it possible to just update it on october 18th?
[16:11] <FiberMan> can anyone here help with a fairly fecked ubntu server not booting.
[16:11] <Guest60113> Hey, is anyone here descent enough at the arm architecture to assist me with a quick make compiling error?
[16:11] <Crimethinker> I'll try.
[16:11] <criminull> is 'alien' a package manager, or just a file converter?
[16:11] <FiberMan> its filesystem is screwed.  it lost its iscsi connection to the san
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> criminull  the latter
[16:11] <FiberMan> recovery mode doesnt boot
[16:12] <bobweaver> criminull,  I thought that it was like rpm too deb ?
[16:12] <FiberMan> complains about missing inode
[16:12] <FiberMan> then kernel panic
[16:12] <bazhang> http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/07/17/eidete-a-screencasting-application-that-really-works-on-ubuntu-12-04/  bobweaver
[16:12] <Crimethinker> Guest60113?
[16:12] <bobweaver> !info alien
[16:12] <criminull> I thought so MonkeyDust, just curious, thanks
[16:12] <bobweaver> thanks bazhang
[16:12] <sambagirl> will 32bit apps run in 64bit environment?
[16:12] <FiberMan> i dont get to a command line to run fsck
[16:13] <Guest60113> for the most part yes sambagirl
[16:13] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[16:13] <ikonia> alien is something that should not be used
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  you may need ia32-libs, it's part of something else
[16:13] <Guest60113> anyone know if there is a raspi channel?
[16:13] <Banzounet> Hi i just edited my /etc/network/interface file :  "http://pastebin.com/PLRqGqVP" but it's not  working :s May someone help me :( ?
[16:14] <Crimethinker> Guest60113, your question about an arm make error?
[16:14] <Guest60113> yes
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> Guest60113  you mean raspberry pi?
[16:14] <Guest60113> yeah
[16:14] <Guest60113> I found a nice tutorial teaching little bits and pieces of the assembly for it and the compiler shot back the code saying no input files
[16:14] <Guest60113> im so new to assembly i have no clue how to fix
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest60113  there's #raspberrypi, some 325 people there (unofficial channel)
[16:15] <Guest60113> MonkeyDust thankyou so much lol
[16:15] <watermark> My install has been hung at "cleaning up" for a while, but there is tons of disk activity.  Does it do a disk check or something during cleanup?
[16:15] <Crimethinker> I don't really suggest Assembly for anything, but if you must, then I'll need the source code you tried to make.
[16:16] <sambagirl> Guest60113 you can always get an old ibm mini computer and practice your assembly on that :D
[16:16] <scarleo> Someone else tried the latest NVIDIA driver with Unity? My Launcher won't reveal when it's in autohide mode
[16:16] <Crimethinker> :)
[16:16] <Crimethinker> My Nvidia card has problems, too.
[16:16] <Crimethinker> I'm not really sure.
[16:17] <Crimethinker> I've tried Unity, KDE, and Xfce, but they all act strange with Nvidia.
[16:17] <scarleo> I didn't have a problem with 304.43 but 304.53  broke it :(
[16:17] <Guest60113> lol i have a couple of older pc's to practice it on but they do not support the new linux kernel and i have to find distros that still update repositories with 2.3
[16:17] <Guest60113> or 2.6 i mean
[16:18] <Crimethinker> Now, then,  my Nvidia problem that I asked about quite a while back?
[16:18] <Guest60113> dude if you think they act weird with nvidia then try AMD, so much less support for those GUI's
[16:18] <sambagirl> ASM = UGH :D
[16:18] <sambagirl> A,1221 MOV B,2121
[16:18] <sambagirl> :D
[16:19] <TJ-> Guest60113: what are the errors? Do you have them pastebin-ned?
[16:19] <sdap3000> ciao a tutti
[16:19] <sdap3000> !list
[16:19] <Crimethinker> I would love AMD, but I'm stuck with my incompatible-with-anything Acer laptop :(.
[16:19] <Guest60113> sambagirl lol i need to learn badly xD and TJ i will get them in pastebin in a sec
[16:19] <TJ-> !it | sdap3000
[16:20] <Crimethinker> I'll be leaving, now.
[16:22] <vdf_987e> ciao
[16:22] <vdf_987e> !list
[16:23] <Guest60113> TJ http://pastebin.com/fx5EVEPX
[16:23] <Guest60113> TJ- TJ-
[16:24] <Guest60113> TJ- Ive never used make before so idk what success looks like yet
[16:25] <TJ-> Guest60113: that's a simple one! You've not got the cross-compiler tools (correctly) installed. make is trying to call the linker and can't find it
[16:25] <watermark> found my answer, bug already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgsel/+bug/1041881
[16:25] <Guest60113> TJ- Oh ok so the GNU toolchain i downloaded before have to go somewhere specific?
[16:26] <TJ-> Guest60113: Are you cross-compiling an ARM kernel on an Intel/AMD PC?
[16:26] <AClicK> Bonsoir
[16:26] <BluesKaj> , stuff to do for a while , BBL
[16:26] <Guest60113> yes
[16:27] <TJ-> Guest60113: OK, I wrote an article on that some time ago. It may help you. http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Kernel/ARMCrossCompileOnIntel
[16:27] <Guest60113> TJ- Yes but i plan on putting all of the make imgs on rasppi sd card
[16:27] <Guest60113> Thankyou TJ!
[16:30] <jiffe98> can ubuntu mount / off an lvm partition?  I'm going through the setup and it won't let me make it bootable
[16:31] <jpds> jiffe98: Yes, it can.
[16:31] <TJ-> jiffe98: Yes. You need to install the "lvm2" package using the terminal before entering the disk partitioner steps of the installer
[16:32] <_google_360_baid> 管理员你看的懂中文吗（adimer are you understand what i mean? hehe ~~~）
[16:32] <Guest95948> hi all
[16:33] <TJ-> jiffe1: And, once the installer has completed, you need to mount the /target/ system and install "lvm2" using a chroot so the drivers and tools are installed in the initial ramdisk
[16:33] <bazhang> _google_360_baid, english  here only
[16:33] <Guest95948> when openstack is added on ubuntu repo for folsom
[16:33] <baizon> hi, any advices. I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and my indicator-messages entry is gone. What's the best way to fix that?
[16:34] <bazhang> baizon, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10
[16:34] <baizon> thx
[16:34] <TJ-> baizon: #ubuntu+1 ... FYI several people have reported that today
[16:34] <baizon> ok
[16:35] <Munchor> Hi there, what GTK/Gnome version will come with 12.10?
[16:35] <bazhang> !info openstackx | Guest95948
[16:35] <baizon> Munchor: 3.6
[16:35] <Munchor> thanks baizon, that is neat
[16:36] <Guest60113> TJ-
[16:37] <Guest60113> TJ- I took the template folder where i was trying to create the make file and copied it to the GNU tools location... different error now
[16:38] <Guest60113> command not found error 127
[16:38] <puddle> guys can someone suggest a good alternative to gdesklets/screenlets which is actually being developed and works?
[16:38] <theplanet> how do i check my ext4 hard drives for damages and inconsistencies?
[16:39] <zykotick9> !fsck | theplanet
[16:39] <TJ-> Guest60113: That was the same error-code you were getting earlier
[16:39] <heritia> leave
[16:40] <Guest60113> shoot. ok well i will continue reading your article lol TJ-
[16:41] <vartotojas> Hello, i need some help with my graphics.. I have ubuntu 12.04, and id like to play some online game like "runescape".. When i log in into the game, my screen goes black and appears msg like "loading" video. in some seconds this msg dissapears and screen stays black.
[16:41] <InsaneGene> does anyone know an anonymity http proxy tool other than tor because tor uses https and I need to be able to configure other applications to connect through that proxy tool
[16:41] <bazhang> vartotojas, is runescape via wine
[16:41] <vartotojas> Dunno whats the problem might be about
[16:41] <vartotojas> yea
[16:42] <puddle> anyone using razer diamondback 3g with ubuntu and managed to set up the sidebuttons perhaps?
[16:42] <bazhang> vartotojas, check the appdb and then /join #winehq
[16:42] <bazhang> !appdb | vartotojas
[16:43] <bazhang> InsaneGene, apt-cache search term    in the terminal and check
[16:43] <vartotojas> bazhang: and if im not using wine?
[16:44] <bazhang> vartotojas, what game
[16:44] <jorick> my keyboard is stuck in caps lock, because i used some kind of setxkbmp... i have to press shift all the time. is there a command to turn caps lock on or off? or a place in /proc where i can do it?
[16:44] <vartotojas> runescaoe
[16:44] <vartotojas> runescape**
[16:44] <bazhang> vartotojas, it has a linux client?
[16:44] <vartotojas> yea
[16:45] <bazhang> vartotojas, I dont see it in the ubuntu repos
[16:45] <zykotick9> vartotojas: what graphics card are you using?  "lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal if unsure.
[16:45] <vartotojas> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[16:45] <vartotojas> vartotojas@vartotojas-Aspire-5738:~$
[16:47] <vartotojas> bazhang: on runescape website there are linux client
[16:48] <InsaneGene> bazhang, a lot of choices when searching term "proxy" , any suggestion ?
[16:48] <jorick> nvmd i have it fixed with some more setxkbmap
[16:50] <commePeu> Bonsoir
[16:50] <zykotick9> !fr | commePeu
[16:50] <commePeu> à tout le monde
[16:50] <commePeu> ahhhhhhhh
[16:50] <commePeu> ok
[16:51] <commePeu> I change the channele
[16:51] <battlehands_> ActionParsnip: how do I move a file again?
[16:51] <battlehands_> err
[16:51] <battlehands_> NM
[16:51] <battlehands_> How do I open a matlab file via terminal
[16:53] <OerHeks> battlehands  open matlab, then open the file
[16:54] <battlehands_> OerHeks: huehuheuheueh
[16:55] <commePeu> Bonsoir
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[16:55] <theplanet> battlehands_, mv file location
[16:55] <k4r1m> is there any to install the quantal evolution package on precise ?
[16:55] <theplanet> it's fun with linux!
[16:56] <OerHeks> k4r1m, no, do not use quantal packages on precise.
[16:56] <k4r1m> OerHeks, I want evolution 3.6 :(
[16:56] <adoet_t> is there update unity 6 for 12.04 ?
[16:57] <k4r1m> OerHeks, would it be safe to compile from source?
[16:58] <OerHeks> k4r1m, compiling is always safe.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> k4r1m  don't mix ubuntu versions
[16:59] <Kapsas> hi, has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930
[16:59] <platypusfriend> Greets
[16:59] <k4r1m> requires JHBuild.. screw it.
[17:00] <platypusfriend> I think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?
[17:00] <OerHeks> Kapsas,  AHCI is the only right setting
[17:00] <Kapsas> but it does not work
[17:00] <johnsky> Hey all.
[17:01] <platypusfriend> Anyone have DHCP experience?
[17:01] <platypusfriend> I think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?
[17:01] <genii-around> Kapsas: A pastebin with the results of: sudo lshw     might show us what the hardware is, from there it may be to load a driver for it, or perhaps something else
[17:01] <OerHeks> Kapsas, gparted should be able to handle 2 Tb drives, try it with the small one only.
[17:02] <Kapsas> I have tried with 40 Gb only, no success
[17:02] <johnsky> I have an irritating issue with HDMI. It flashes black every time audio is combined.
[17:03] <platypusfriend> Anyone... MAAS expertise?
[17:03] <platypusfriend> I think there's a problem with the MAAS documentation--- On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS under the heading "Configuring DHCP", shouldn't "/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" be replaced with "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"..?
[17:03] <merlin2049er> hey, i'm looking to get a revo 3 x2 drive for my pc
[17:03] <bazhang> !repeat | platypusfriend
[17:03] <merlin2049er> but, I'm not sure if it's supported by ubuntu?
[17:03] <bazhang> merlin2049er, ##hardware
[17:03] <merlin2049er> thanks
[17:05] <merlin2049er> unity and chrome have been crashing on me lately... is there a problem with them?
[17:05] <johnsky> Every time audio starts (whether it's a system sound or music, or anything) it seems the HDMI output has to be re-combined and re-syncd.
[17:06] <rp2> my chrome crashes on WIndows 7
[17:06] <zykotick9> merlin2049er: chrome or chromium?
[17:06] <merlin2049er> chromium
[17:06] <bazhang> rp2 how is that an ubuntu issue
[17:06] <johnsky> I'm looking for a way to keep the audio active, like playing dead air on loop from startup.
[17:07] <rp2> it's not - but it might be relevant
[17:07] <bazhang> rp2, no need to mention it here
[17:08] <roberto> hi all I installed 12.0.4 Pangolin and added two users. Now, there's a 10-15 sec wait on lightdm-initiated X login and logout. I tailed Xorg.0.log and syslog, and can't see any Warnings, errors or otherwise suspicious.  Where else could I look?
[17:08] <rp2> Im trying to figure out whether Samba can be ataught to just use /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow for its users and passwords - no luck yet
[17:09] <joan>  Hi, this is really unbelievable, I had a nasty bug concerning CUPS 1.5.3 in kubuntu 12.04, that caused the following output in the error log:
[17:09] <joan> "failed to CreateProfile: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id NAME_OF_THE_PRINTER"
[17:09] <joan>  Well, I tried installing VirtualBox with W$ XP on that kubuntu 12.04 and setup the printer, with success.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> rp2: why not use its own database as usual?
[17:10] <joan>  But the weird thing is that after that, printing through cups in linux has been fixed automagically. I can't understand anything... This is weirdness itself
[17:10] <vartotojas_> can someone help me? im trying to use this command : sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin.   but i get this msg " Reading package lists... Done
[17:10] <vartotojas_> Building dependency tree
[17:10] <vartotojas_> Reading state information... Done
[17:10] <vartotojas_> E: Unable to locate package sun-java6-plugin
[17:10] <vartotojas_> " How i can download it?
[17:10] <FloodBot1> vartotojas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <roberto> joan, so now it works?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> vartotojas_: do you want oracle java 1.7?
[17:10] <bazhang> !java | vartotojas_ have a read
[17:10] <joan> yes, that's the most irritating thing, roberto
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> vartotojas_: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[17:11] <joan> and I discovered it purely by chance, roberto
[17:11] <vartotojas_> ActionParsnip:  oh ty
[17:11] <roberto> hehe normally in windows the irritating thing is it DOESNT work. Cool that in linux it irritates you that it DOES work :)
[17:11] <Kapsas> hi, has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW
[17:12] <daniel__> Hello @all
[17:12] <joan> roberto, it works at the price of having to print first a page in W$ through virtualbox, shame on CUPS. These guys behave in a way that I cannot understand
[17:12] <mikebot> Hi, is it possible to create a bootable usb drive (for windows) on a mac computer?
[17:12] <genii-around> Kapsas: As I stated earlier, if you boot to the usb and then pastebin the result of: sudo lshw       ..there might be some information we can use to help you.
[17:13] <bazhang> mikebot, whats the connection to ubuntu support
[17:13] <genii-around> Kapsas: Ah, I see it is updated, good.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> joan: you culd bridge the network of virtualbox, then print to cups directly that way (like a new physical system on the LAN)
[17:13] <mikebot> bazhang: sorry?
[17:13] <daniel__> Rice with Ketchup  <3 Yummy
[17:13] <bazhang> !ot | daniel__
[17:13] <roberto> joan, yes that isn't good. When do you have to print the first page from windows? After each reboot? After every printer restart?
[17:14] <joan> or perhaps is the ubuntu team to blame? that is, why don't they wait to have something that really works and is fully tested in a LTS distro?
[17:14] <joan> roberto, after each reboot
[17:14] <joan> then it works in linux every time, until next reboot...
[17:15] <roberto> joan, could you try visiting http://localhost:631/ after a reboot?
[17:15] <mikebot> Hi, is it possible to create a bootable usb drive (for windows) on a mac computer?
[17:15] <roberto> That's directly into the CUPS interface
[17:15] <bazhang> mikebot, this is ubuntu support
[17:15] <roberto> Maybe you could get some hints.
[17:15] <mikebot> bazhang: Yes, I want to create a ubuntu bootable usb
[17:15] <mikebot> bazhang: that will work on my pc.  but i can only create it on a mac
[17:16] <bazhang> mikebot, you state (for windows)
[17:16] <mikebot> bazhang: pc, sorry
[17:16] <joan> I've checked all the logs, roberto, and the problem is that when you print in linux (without the W$ trick) you get some errors like the one I posted before
[17:16] <bazhang> mikebot, perhaps unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[17:17] <johnsky> I have an irritating issue with HDMI. It flashes black every time audio is combined.
[17:17] <johnsky> Every time audio starts (whether it's a system sound or music, or anything) it seems the HDMI output has to be re-combined and re-syncd.
[17:17] <bazhang> mikebot, pendrivelinux.com is another area to investigate
[17:17] <joan> there are some people having issues like mine, nearly identical, with cups 1.5.3, the first ones a t least from April or May!!!
[17:17] <mikebot> bazhang: Thanks
[17:17] <johnsky> I'm looking for a way to keep the audio active, like playing dead air on loop from startup.
[17:17] <hylian> can I run the android os somehow inside windows without using the very dated live cd for android produced in 2009?
[17:18] <hylian> inside ubuntu 12.04, notr windows
[17:18] <joan> roberto, but it seems there is no real solution to this real nasty bug
[17:18] <roberto> joan, sorry I joined recently an
[17:18] <roberto> hmm what was that
[17:18] <Kapsas> Has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW. Please reply in forum if possible
[17:18] <genii-around> Kapsas: If you do: sudo modprobe sata_nv       and then check the output of: dmesg| tail        does it show anything?
[17:18] <roberto> now, joan is your printer a Samsung ML? Using generic drivers, or manufacturer's?
[17:20] <johnsky> I've stated my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062709 regarding the HDMI audio recombining and resyncing issue.
[17:20] <joan> roberto, is a HP LaserJet 1018, which uses driver foo2zjs
[17:21] <joan> roberto, I get the error posted above and also this one:  Failed to update TXT record for PRINTER_NAME
[17:22] <bobweaver> bazhang, Thanks again for the tip on the video-caster. works alright won't pull in audio and cuts the screen cast in half but it kinda works.
[17:23] <joan> roberto, it seems these issues affect several printer brands: HP, Samsung, Canon, Brother
[17:23] <joan> roberto, for example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2054048
[17:24] <caydeesoft> hey
[17:25] <bizhanMona> HI all, according to this URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035445.html  Ubuntu is planning to not to use GRUB 2 for UEFI secure boot. Is this still standing? Thx
[17:25] <roberto> joan, hmm TXT record usually has something to do with DNS.
[17:25] <Kapsas> Has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW, and modprobe sata_nv
[17:26] <roberto> are you using DNS or BIND for name resolution? (have a look in /etc/resolv.cof)
[17:26] <roberto> if it doesn't say something about "bind" that might be part of the problem
[17:29] <joan> thanx, roberto, but I'm actually on another box. The affected systems are the ones my wife uses at her job, (which BTW makes this bug even nastier, because there they really NEED printing)
[17:30] <Kapsas> Has anyone had problems with SATA HDD detection by linux? Here is the details of problem I have  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061930 now also added what gives the LSHW, and modprobe sata_nv
[17:31] <joan> roberto, anyway, how can I learn more about that? an ordinary resolv.conf uses to contain nameserver n.n.n.n  lines, doesn't it?
[17:32] <roberto> joan, forgot to ask: is this a network printer or USB?
[17:32] <rp2> look in /etc/nsswitch.conf too
[17:33] <joan> roberto, USB
[17:33] <roberto> joan, OK. did you see http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 and downloaded the firmware to the printer after each printer restart
[17:34] <joan> no, roberto, let's have a look. thanx
[17:34] <roberto> joan could be you need superduperuser rights to do that
[17:35] <roberto> that firmware download looks very much like a "win"modem issue... Hardware with no default brains.
[17:35] <joan> yeah, this is what I told my wife
[17:36] <joan> they keep buying crappish hardware which is always making trouble
[17:37] <joan> but she works in a non-profit organization and they always have a very short budget
[17:37] <roberto> Yep. It's a shame there aren't many stores selling only 100% compliant gear, like Apple tries to do.
[17:37] <roberto> But the spirit of linux guys generally is "lets show the guys it can be done anyway"
[17:39] <joan> yeah, roberto. that's one of the things I like most about this
[17:39] <roberto> if that firmware download works, you could write a script containing the firmware loading command. Then you install udev and set up a rule for your printer that will run that script upon printer connect. see http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-printer
[17:40] <joan> BTW, shame on me for not having checked the openprinting website. This is the first thing I should have done...
[17:40] <roberto> I've used that with my VERY old viceo scanner (no drivers beyond win98 available)...
[17:40] <BluesKaj> oh no not another "gear" aficionado ...used to have put up with "gear" in the audio chats , not here too :)
[17:40] <roberto> BluesKaj, I'll use "stuff" then
[17:40] <roberto> or HW ;)?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> roberto, ..use it if youwant ..was kidding of course
[17:42] <johnsky> I've stated my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062709 regarding the HDMI audio recombining and resyncing issue.
[17:43] <johnsky> If anyone has experience with HDMI audio issues causing re-sync
[17:44] <johnsky> or even if you remember hearing something once...
[17:46] <BluesKaj> johnsky, I don't use "sounds" on my pc but I do loop the hdmi audio back from the tv to the audio receiver digital input , however i haven't encountered any sync issues ...probly doesn't answer your question tho
[17:47] <TJ-> bizhanMona: Ubuntu will be using GRUB2 with Secure-Boot.
[17:47] <johnsky> Thats cool, thanks anyways Blues, you never know when someone will accidentally remember something useful.
[17:48] <OHIK> hello
[17:48] <johnsky> Ultimately I'm thinking that if I keep the audio output active by playing a never ending loop of dead air at startup, this might solve the issue. But what would be the least intrusive and most efficient way to do this?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a program automatic when it freezes?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> !xkill > lotuspsychje
[17:49] <johnsky> Don't kill yourself over it.
[17:49] <msmith0957> I have a problem with my touch pad.. it randomly stops working, and only way I can fix it is to restart, any idea ?
[17:50] <johnsky> I don't know about that, but in the mean time, try logging out and back in rather than rebooting,.
[17:50] <johnsky> It will save you time
[17:53] <msmith0957> ok, so, a log out does not return my touchpad to normal, reboot is the only thing that fixes it
[17:55] <msmith0957> should i have a syndaemon process runing ?
[17:55] <goddard> Is there a way to block private messages in thunderbird irc chat?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> goddard: use the ignore command irc
[17:56] <bazhang> goddard, what about /mode nick +R
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a program automatic after it freezes?
[17:57] <goddard> oh that will prevent them
[17:57] <corewillem> hello can i install ubuntu without grub ?
[17:58] <goddard> i get spam emails some times
[17:58] <goddard> and spam irc messages
[17:59] <JordiGH> If I have two packages with the same "version" but in different repositories, how can I tell apt-get from which repo I want to download?
[17:59] <johnsky> Yes msmith0957, you should have syndaemon running.
[17:59] <JordiGH> They're both in the precise-main section.
[17:59] <sw> JordiGH: -t
[18:00] <msmith0957> johnsky: So, at the moment, I don't, but it is currently working. Am I using a nonstandard driver/daemon atm ?
[18:00] <corewillem> anyone ?
[18:00] <corewillem> hello can i install ubuntu without grub ?
[18:00] <msmith0957> by working, it hasnt frozen yet
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> !patience | corewillem
[18:00] <JordiGH> sw: Oh, right, thanks.
[18:00] <johnsky> Not sure. Someone else might know msmith0957
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> !grub2 | corewillem
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> corewillem:wich bootloader you wanna use as alternative to grub2?
[18:03] <corewillem> grub2 :p
[18:03] <PaSsI> i want to learn computer language and want to learn to create small softwares and m totally new..........please point me the direction.........
[18:03] <corewillem> but i don't want to mess up my arch + windows 8 dualboot
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> corewillem:what excactly you wanna try?
[18:03] <fachex> Hello all!
[18:04] <fachex> I need your help guys or I can loose my job! :-$
[18:04] <bizhanMona> TJ: thanks
[18:04] <fachex> I have a weird problem
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> !ask | fachex
[18:05] <corewillem> :p
[18:05] <corewillem> lotuspsychje i want to add ubuntu myself in my arch installed grub
[18:06] <fachex> I have Ubuntu 12.04 as a file server on a Raid 1 500 GB. There is a VMW machine with Win2008 Server.  The \home folder is in another partition with 430 GB...it says that the \home is full,  100% which is technically impossible
[18:06] <fachex> the VMWare folder is only 15GB
[18:07] <fachex> I just removed 12GB and it still says that is full..
[18:07] <bekks> fachex: Please provide the exact error message and all mentioned data like "ls -lha" of all that folders, not just a transcript please :)
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> corewillem: not sure, did you try to install with ubuntu livecd?
[18:08] <corewillem> nope
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> corewillem:ubuntu got Os options maybe it will install it next to arch without touching grub
[18:09] <fachex> bekks, I don't get it..I am checking the disk Usage analyzer
[18:09] <bekks> fachex: Well, then provide the outputs of ls -lha please
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> fachex  type df -h|pastebinit and paste the url here
[18:10] <fachex> ok
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> corewillem: maybe this can help http://richardfearn.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/chainloading-from-one-grub-to-another/
[18:11] <corewillem> 2 grub installs ?
[18:12] <fachex> this is the ls -lha http://pastebin.com/kF0caRsW
[18:13] <fachex> this is teh df -h http://pastebin.com/fTX16F2g
[18:14] <fachex> the /media/Factory... and /media/HP is an external drive.
[18:14] <uzumaxy> Hello all!
[18:14] <fachex> so, 98% on the home?????
[18:14] <fachex> no way!
[18:15] <fachex> then, looking at the Disk Usage Analyzer the biggest folder is VMWare with only 15GB
[18:16] <bekks> Forget that disk analyzer ;)
[18:16] <fachex> ok
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> fachex:would surprise me that df lies
[18:16] <bekks> Whats the output of: du -h --max-depth=1 /media/HP
[18:16] <fachex> don't worry about the /media
[18:17] <fachex> that's an external drive I am using to move stuff out of \home
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> fachex:whats the use of the server plz?
[18:17] <bekks> OK, then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home please
[18:17] <fachex> file server
[18:17] <fachex> lotuspsychje, file server
[18:17] <fachex> but files are small pdf files
[18:18] <fachex> and I just installed this server last week
[18:18] <fachex> it is impossible that it would be filled op.
[18:18] <fachex> up
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> fachex:maybe try rootkithunter, you never know..
[18:18] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Nope :)
[18:19] <fachex> lotuspsychje, I am afraid of something like that or the raid might be failing
[18:19] <bekks> Even without rkhunter you will see the space used.
[18:19] <awestroke> I know this is NOT the correct channel to ask this question, but I accidentally removed the windows restore partition on my netbook, and now I want to restore it to sell it. What should I do? I still got a valid cdkey
[18:19] <bekks> fachex: A failing RAID will not use more space.
[18:19] <awestroke> I just installed ubuntu over everything
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> bekks:even its hidden dirs?
[18:19] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Sure.
[18:19] <ThinkT510> awestroke: /join ##windows
[18:19] <bekks> ls -lha show you all hidden dirs.
[18:19] <awestroke> ThinkT510: thank you!
[18:19] <fachex> bekks, I know but it might not be using the right partition ...I don't know
[18:20] <bekks> fachex: then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home please
[18:20] <fachex> I just noticed that I do have an error on the radi
[18:20] <fachex> raid
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a program automatic after it freezes?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  alt f2, xkill
[18:22] <PaSsI> in ccsm i m disabling a particular command which is <alt>button 3..........it turns itself on again and again...........
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: im looking for something automatic, cause whole desktop freezes cause this prog
[18:22] <fachex> bekks, lotuspsychje, this is the du -h --max http://pastebin.com/c8xP5vsV
[18:23] <fachex> permission denied even with sudo..
[18:23] <bekks> fachex: 373G    /home/administrator
[18:23] <fachex> I know
[18:23] <fachex> impossible
[18:23] <bekks> du never lies :)
[18:23] <bekks> fachex: then provide: du -h --max-depth=1 /home/administrator please
[18:23] <fachex> how do I find the file, folder that has all that data???\
[18:23] <fachex> I can't find it
[18:23] <fachex> ok
[18:25] <fachex> here is the du -h --max for the administrator folder http://pastebin.com/5QdyCaGb
[18:26] <fachex> bekks, it does not add up...
[18:26] <fachex> unless for line #30
[18:26] <llutz> fachex: du -xh /home/administrator
[18:27] <fachex> but I don't have anything there
[18:27] <fachex> llutz, ok
[18:27] <llutz> fachex: are you sure theres nothing mounted on ~/.gvfs?
[18:27] <kennet> helo everyone i have a 8gb usb and would like to install ubuntu as a user account but also to be able to carry on a iso image to inatll on friends comuter when needed is thia possible?
[18:27] <fachex> llutz, I was not even aware of the folder
[18:28] <jrib> fachex: if something is still using those 12 GB you deleted, then df will reflect that
[18:29] <fachex> jrib, that's ok, but I still have 370GB left...supposedly
[18:30] <fachex> llutz, this is the dh -xh http://pastebin.com/kgkF4jrq
[18:31] <fachex> llutz, see the last line..
[18:31] <fachex> there is something there..
[18:31] <fachex> I just don't see it
[18:31] <fachex> but it  has to be some kind of error, there is no way so much data in a week
[18:32] <llutz> fachex: did you by any chance kill any process which still writes into a removed file?
[18:33] <TJ-> fachex: Interesting! I've just discovered the same issue on 12.04 after 'rsync' from another 12.04 host ! I've been trying to figure it out here, too!
[18:34] <fachex> llutz, I did not kill anything or anybody :)
[18:34] <fachex> but I will..
[18:35] <fachex> TJ- did you find out anything?
[18:36] <fachex> what would happen if I tear down the Radi array?
[18:36] <fachex> I am desperate, this people cannot do anything and they are waiting on me.
[18:37] <TJ-> fachex: Yeah. There are 4 sub-directories that were rsynced that all seem to point/contain exactly 1.4GB when on the source host they are 272MB
[18:38] <goddard> anyone know how to install the gnome application overall menu ?
[18:38] <goddard> i tried installing the ppa and it gives me an error
[18:39] <fachex> llutz, bekks, jrib, any hint on what could that be?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> goddard: like the old school menu system>
[18:42] <TJ-> fachex: Is the file-system LVM
[18:43] <allohak> ping
[18:43] <bekks> fachex: Where's the output of du -h --max-depth=1 /home/administrator - did I miss it?
[18:43] <fachex> bekks, yes you did
[18:44] <fachex> I pasted it
[18:44] <brightsparks> Hi. I'm having problems with VLC. I can't resize the VLC window it's fully filling my screen each time I use it and I don't know how to reduce it's size.
[18:44] <bekks> fachex: So would you mind to share that link again?
[18:44] <fachex> TJ- well, is a raid 1 volumen
[18:44] <user_> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:44] <Hapz> so i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program
[18:44] <allohak> Question about sound (alsa/pulseaudio)
[18:44] <Hapz> how the hell do i remove that stupid feature
[18:44] <Hapz> i want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them
[18:45] <fachex> bekks, http://pastebin.com/5QdyCaGb
[18:45] <TJ-> fachex: I'm seeing looped paths here, ext4, amd64, 3.2.0-31-generic
[18:45] <fachex> TJ- with three partition
[18:45] <bekks> fachex: then provide ls -lha /home/administrator please
[18:46] <fachex> bekks, http://pastebin.com/sN5m4K3K
[18:47] <goddard> ActionParsnip: let me see if i can find the link for what i am talking about
[18:47] <fachex> TJ- , what do you mean?
[18:47] <bekks> -rw-------  1 administrator administrator 357G Sep 25 13:30 .xsession-errors.old
[18:47] <bekks> There is your wasted space.
[18:47] <jrib> bekks: haha, wow
[18:47] <fachex> bekks, where?
[18:47] <bekks> fachex: line 48
[18:47] <fachex> let's see
[18:48] <tweetergal> woaj
[18:48] <fachex> bekks, should I go ahead and delete that
[18:48] <roberto> joan sorry I was away did you get that printer up working again?
[18:48] <fachex> ?
[18:48] <tweetergal> why are there so many ubuntu users?
[18:48] <tweetergal> is ubuntu an OS?
[18:48] <bekks> fachex: Yes.
[18:48] <TJ-> fachex: Have you done an offline fsck?
[18:48] <roberto> tweetergal, define OS
[18:49] <agrestringere> got a question, does Ubuntu Web Apps work with Xubuntu?
[18:49] <tweetergal> operating system ??
[18:49] <agrestringere> Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:49] <tweetergal> is ubuntu part of linux?
[18:49] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: linux is the kernel
[18:50] <ThinkT510> !ubuntu | tweetergal
[18:50] <goddard> ActionParsnip: I found the link
[18:50] <goddard> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html
[18:50] <Jamey_> Cool easy
[18:50] <roberto> tweetergal, think of the different "linux OS" as different collections of programs, all based on linux.
[18:50] <allohak> anyone want to help debug an audio problem?
[18:50] <Jamey_> i lle be back
[18:50] <spoljo> roberto: you mean gnu
[18:50] <roberto> spoljo, Gnu/Linux
[18:51] <Jamey_> whats news here ?
[18:51] <spoljo> roberto: yes but linux is just kernel , userspace is gnu
[18:51] <tweetergal> so why do people use linux?
[18:51] <roberto> "gnu's not unix/linux" to be exact
[18:51] <spoljo> tweetergal: why do people use windows ?
[18:51] <roberto> tweetergal, I use it because it's stable
[18:51] <roberto> and safe
[18:51] <goddard> cause its awesome like me tweetergal
[18:51] <roberto> We could use the salesman's question, too: "Why don't you use linux?"
[18:52] <Jamey_> i use linux y o trop easy
[18:52] <fachex> bekks, you did it!!!!!!
[18:52] <tweetergal> thats weird, windows got everything setup, pretty gui.. few clicks you can get what you want.
[18:52] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: i use it because i value my freedom, by the way this is a support channel
[18:52] <fachex> OMG, what was that??????
[18:52] <tweetergal> i don't understand why people use linux
[18:52] <fachex> why in the world?
[18:52] <DAudioLink> Quick question: If my problem is in setting up/configuring lm sensors/fan speeds do I need to ask elsewhere?
[18:52] <goddard> tweetergal: haha
[18:53] <goddard> tweetergal: so does Ubuntu
[18:53] <roberto> tweetergal, you can also get what you want with a few clicks in linux. With no clicks, actually.
[18:53] <agrestringere> Question about Xubuntu 12.04, do those new Ubuntu "Web Apps" integrate with XFCE? I really want to integrate things like Gmail and Google Calendar into them without using an annoying email client...
[18:53] <goddard> tweetergal: what do you use your computer for?
[18:53] <goddard> watching cat videos on youtube or work?
[18:54] <ThinkT510> agrestringere: web apps are used with a browser aren't they?
[18:54] <Jamey_> roberto i syntetise my mind
[18:54] <tweetergal> everything
[18:54] <roberto> Jamey_, what for? Your current isn't good enough?
[18:54] <goddard> tweetergal: i dont know what everything is
[18:54] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: do you want to give ubuntu a go? take a livecd for a spin or try it in a vm
[18:55] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: at the end of the day its up to you what you want to use
[18:55] <Jamey_> my friend is death
[18:55] <tweetergal> Ya, my friend shown me. he put unbuntu into an CD and able to boot it into OS enviroment.
[18:55] <tweetergal> pretty amazing
[18:56] <fachex> bekks, now even a bigger problem, VMWare does not open the machine...dang
[18:56] <Jamey_> a girl !!!
[18:56] <roberto> tweetergal, real-world (my) example: Someone brings in a computer from another office to our office. We use 802.1X based ethernet authentication. That was a serious show-stopper for the poor guy. IT was called, machine had to be sent in, etc. On linux I just checked "use 802.1x" and input user/pwd. less hassle
[18:56] <fachex> that file must have been related to it.
[18:57] <bekks> fachex: ...and the exact, complete error message is...?
[18:57] <Jamey_> she s is  dead
[18:57] <Jamey_> snif
[18:57] <ThinkT510> !ot | Jamey_
[18:57] <roberto> tweetergal, you can also use the CD image to create a bootable USB stick, much faster and all.
[18:57] <Jamey_> i dont like this but this sad
[18:57] <DAudioLink> I have an Intel DG33TL mobo and a Q6600 Core2Duo CPU, I want to set the CPU fan to try and keep the CPU below 60C. I can't get lmsensors to register the CPU sensors as anything other than coretemp, and pwmconfig doesn't show anything configurable.
[18:58] <tweetergal> woah
[18:58] <goddard> tweetergal: windows is good but Ubuntu is a lot nicer but you gotta figure out the right way to do stuff its not the same as windows but actualy having an Ubuntu machine is less hassle because you have no viruses and you also dont get a bunch of pop ups about updates
[18:58] <tweetergal> so many IT experts here
[18:58] <DAudioLink> Any ideas for setting up throtling/fan control to keep the CPU temp in check?
[18:58] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: its a support channel, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <Jamey_> luther season three ???
[18:59] <agrestringere> tweetergal: it's about knowing what your software is doing. Windows and Mac can be spying on you and it's not a joke.  Internet Explorer is suspected to record all your activities online and feed it to Bing.com for building their search results.  With Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source you never have that problem because the activity of the programs you use are known to the community...
[18:59] <Jamey_> i like the actor
[18:59] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[18:59] <DJones> Jamey_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Please remember this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[18:59] <roberto> tweetergal, if you want to try out ubuntu without removing windows entirely, you can run it in a window inside windows :) Google "virtualbox"
[18:59] <ThinkT510> Jamey_: stop it
[19:00] <Jamey_> luther season three ???
[19:00] <Jamey_> i like the actor
[19:00] <roberto> agrestringere, well if you use google as your search engine...
[19:00] <roberto> ban Jamey_ ?
[19:00] <Jamey_> thas is the question
[19:00] <DJones> Jamey_: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[19:00] <goddard> luther is a good show
[19:01] <Jamey_> goddors  yo lokike this monkey
[19:01] <Jamey_> hum
[19:01] <Jamey_> lol
[19:01] <DJones> Jamey_: If yo want general chat, please use #ubuntu-offto[ic
[19:01] <goddard> what haha?
[19:01] <farrang> lol
[19:01] <ThinkT510> goddard: don't encourage him
[19:02] <msangi> tweetergal: from my perspective, i just installed ubuntu recently, i have not rebooted into windows since
[19:02] <katja> ever since I upgraded to 11.10 my pc freezes up all the time
[19:02] <katja> anyone else having that problem
[19:02] <katja> 2gb of ram
[19:02] <msangi> what windows can do, ubuntu can do at least as good, but better
[19:02] <roberto> katja, well I always had trouble after upgrading. Prefer clean installs.
[19:02] <tweetergal> LOL
[19:02] <katja> never happened with the older version
[19:02] <tweetergal> liar
[19:02] <katja> i could try that roberto
[19:03] <moustafa> katja, 11.10 was a decent release, but 12.04 is overall better
[19:03] <moustafa> katja, Try that one instead
[19:03] <katja> okay
[19:03] <roberto> I usually get a usb drive, rsync -arv /home/* /media/<usbdrive>/ and then do a clean install.
[19:03] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:03] <boldfilter> What's the irc for Cinnamon?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> katja  for a start, type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove     <---paste that in a terminal
[19:03] <tweetergal> but is application base on windows compatible with ubuntu?
[19:04] <msangi> i wanted to ask, the default modem manager, does it use ppp or wvdial to connect?
[19:04] <roberto> tweetergal, check out http://winehq.org
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> katja  what moustafa says is even better
[19:04] <ThinkT510> !equivalent | tweetergal
[19:04] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: it is better to use native alternatives
[19:04] <katja> okay I didnt realize there is a newer version
[19:05] <roberto> katja, for example TeamViewer use the windows binaries in their OFFICIAL "linux" packages. It's just a linux package with windows binaries inside...
[19:05] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: if you need something very specific then wine could work
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !appdb | tweetergal
[19:05] <joan> roberto, thanx for that really good tutorial on udev rules
[19:06] <roberto> hi again joan did that firmware download work?
[19:06] <roberto> You can du very interesting things with udev. Turn on lights in your house when you plugin the Mouse usb receiver... you name it
[19:06] <joan> I can't test it until tomorrow (I'm in Valencia, Europe), I'll tell you
[19:06] <joan> yeah, :)
[19:07] <roberto> ok sleep tight.
[19:07] <farrang> fuck u roberto u pedo
[19:07] <cm1nus> hi i need help with darwin
[19:07] <katja> sorry roberto I am working so kinda missed what you meant about teamviewer
[19:07] <cm1nus> there is no apt-get
[19:07] <ThinkT510> cm1nus: this is just for ubuntu support
[19:08] <cm1nus> isnt darwin ubuntu
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> cm1nus  wrong channel
[19:08] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[19:08] <cm1nus> damn
[19:08] <farrang> wrong chan cm1nus fuck off!
[19:08] <ThinkT510> cm1nus: no, darwin is essentially the base of osx
[19:08] <cm1nus> is there a darwin cham
[19:08] <OerHeks> !attitude | farrang
[19:09] <joan> roberto, It's always very encouraging to find really useful info, well written. Thank you very much. One problem with linux is that there is a lot of info in the net but the good one is hard to find.
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> cm1nus  try #puredarwin
[19:09] <cm1nus> hey who is tht pissed off anally raped dog
[19:10] <goddard> ?
[19:10] <goddard> relax kid
[19:10] <rcmaehl> Bad troll was bad
[19:10] <farrang> sex
[19:11] <mtelesha> can we have a kick on farrang?
[19:11]  * rcmaehl applauds DJones for his excellent troll handling.
[19:11] <IdleOne> No need to comment on removal/kicks. back to support.
[19:12] <goddard> haha so can anyone help me figure out why this ppa doesn't wana work http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html
[19:12] <roberto> joan, thanks but I didn't write that :D
[19:12] <allohak> If noone answers your original posted question after a few minutes, is it appropriate to repost it?
[19:12] <rcmaehl> Ok...
[19:12] <goddard> ya
[19:12] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT
[19:13] <joan> yeah, but you pointed at it, roberto. ;)
[19:13] <tweetergal> does ubuntu has something like registry ??
[19:13] <goddard> tweetergal: no
[19:13] <goddard> tweetergal: Ubuntu uses config files
[19:13] <rcmaehl> Registry ~= ~/.config/
[19:13] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:16] <grandal_prime> hey
[19:17] <grandal_prime> Ive set up ntp on me new server.  i can query the servers ..my time is still hours off
[19:17] <grandal_prime> and yes i removed ntpdate
[19:17] <grandal_prime> is there a way to force a resync with ntpq ?
[19:17] <zykotick9> grandal_prime: check your timezone is correct
[19:17] <roberto> tweetergal, you could have a look at gconf-editor
[19:17] <roberto> sudo apt-get install ~
[19:17] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:18] <roberto> grandal_prime, does cat /var/log/messages |grep ntp say anything like successfully adjusted, offset so and so much?
[19:18] <goddard> allohak: have you tried #ubuntu-server ?
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Is the app showing in the extensions in the advanced settings app installed as gnome-tweak
[19:18] <grandal_prime> tz american los angles
[19:19] <allohak> goddard: Yes, I have posted there as well
[19:20] <vitimiti> bye
[19:21] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT.
[19:21] <goddard> wilee-nilee: not that i can see
[19:21] <msangi> i asked earlier whether the modem manager for 12.04 used ppp or wvdial for connecting. the reason is that there are times when i am connected but i can't access the internet. have an ip and gateway, but dns lookup seems not to be working. is it a problem from my end or the providers? i appreciate any help.
[19:22] <grandal_prime> ya roberto  nothing in there.
[19:22] <grandal_prime> roberto,  i mean nothing in the messages log, nothing in demon or syslog
[19:22] <grandal_prime> nothing about ntp anyway
[19:22] <roberto> grandal_prime, is it EXACTLY a few hours off, or hours+minutes?
[19:22] <AlanBell> msangi: if you are connected through something that network manager doesn't know about then you can have problems with things like firefox automatically going to offline mode
[19:22] <goddard> wilee-nilee: it doesn't even install when i do an apt-get install
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> goddard, That web page says nov 2011 that be old stuff laddy, there is a a menu available I would get a newer page on it, I'm not sure really.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: complains about some gnome-extensions-commons issue and says it cannot install
[19:23] <msangi> AlanBell: its working right now, as i am connected, but an hour or so ago it died and could not connect to any site.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: yeah im guessing the same
[19:23] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: figured it would be more popular
[19:24] <AlanBell> allohak: you could possibly install ubuntu-desktop, which might sort out the missing bits, but will drag in a heap of other stuff you might not want
[19:24] <grandal_prime> Tue Sep 25 12:23:01 PDT 2012  is one that is correct... machine that is behind is...Tue Sep 25 12:52:15 PDT 2012
[19:24] <grandal_prime> and that werid i was several hours off a min ago
[19:24] <grandal_prime> does it do this slowly
[19:24] <roberto> grandal_prime, if it's way off it will jump as far as I remember. If it's just a little, ntp will adjust little by little. Could be I'm wrong.
[19:25] <grandal_prime> sorry i was looking at the wrong box..the one that is off is...Tue Sep 25 13:53:13 PDT 2012
[19:25] <grimeton> bekks: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50042
[19:25] <grandal_prime> ya so its like an hour + some
[19:25] <roberto> ok, minutes or seconds?
[19:25] <roberto> anyway, can you use wireshark to look at the packets coming and going?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> goddard, there is a app that is a main menu setup that works I don't use it but have looked at it it is called application menu exstension
[19:25] <roberto> you can filter for "ntp" to avoid seeing all that other traffic.
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> extension*
[19:26] <grandal_prime> my firewall is set to allow related back in and the box can get out. i get server information back
[19:27] <goddard> wilee-nilee: yeah that is a nice exstension but this one is a little different
[19:28] <goddard> wilee-nilee: it replaces the actual application menu kind of like Unity
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Yeah I use synapse to search in gnome 3 and have cairo dock installed for the regulars.
[19:29] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: If you still need help, I was wondering what your xorg.conf file looked like
[19:29] <goddard> wilee-nilee: with Gnome Shell have you tried the Bolt extension?
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, I haven't n o.
[19:30] <roberto> grandal_prime, sorry if this has been asked already: do you use ntp time server or ntpdate as a command?
[19:30] <rcmaehl> FlipShaw: I can't really pastebin it but I can type it out to you in pm unless there's an irssi command to send it to you
[19:30] <goddard> wilee-nilee: its similar to the dash actually looks better in my opinion
[19:30] <grandal_prime> ntp time
[19:30] <roberto> the ntpdate command?
[19:30] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: pm is fine
[19:30] <grandal_prime> no
[19:30] <grandal_prime> just ntp.
[19:30] <grandal_prime> ntpdate is uninistalled.
[19:31] <roberto> ok. I've always used ntpdate as a one-shot to set the time staight. Now, did you try setting a specific time server in the configs? Could be some bad time server maybe, causing time to be wildly off once in a while?
[19:32] <grandal_prime> ive noticed on most machines if both are installed ntpdate interfere with tnp
[19:32] <grandal_prime> ntp that is
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> goddard, I don't use unity, did for about a year but switched to the shell, not sure if the dash is part of the shell, to be honest my computer is just a tool for writing papers in a masters program and surfing the web I don't really spend much time customizing it, I don't really have the time.
[19:33] <rcmaehl> FlipShaw: hold on about 10 minutes, #linux is looking at my Xorg log file
[19:33] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i do a lot of programming and work on open source projects so i get to mess with stuff like this
[19:33] <grandal_prime> im using    the server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[19:34] <greenit> how can i list the currently used graphics driver in the console?
[19:34] <grandal_prime> 0 - 3
[19:34] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i like the speed and lightness of gnome shell but some of the features of unity
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> goddard, well we pseudo geeks love that you and others do the hard work. ;)
[19:34] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: That's fine, I'll be here, but I doubt I know alot more than any other guys :)
[19:34] <nsudo> any application to read apple partition on ubuntu 12.04
[19:34] <mercano> Привет
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> !ru | mercano
[19:34] <genii-around> nsudo: Yes, hfsutils
[19:35] <genii-around> nsudo: Additionally you might want hfsplus package
[19:35] <goddard> wilee-nilee: its fun plus there are cool geek parties all the time
[19:35] <grandal_prime> ya this sucks...it says.. Universal Time is now:  Tue Sep 25 21:03:50 UTC 2012.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Had I not gotten a open source setup on my first computer at a used recycler I would probably never have found it lol, I use it primarily, ts what I learned to use.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> it's*
[19:36] <grandal_prime> and im prettty sure that is not right
[19:37] <nsudo> genii-around; in synaptic
[19:37] <Juanopsy> Any spanish speaker? that can help me with some ubuntu random crashes?
[19:37] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: you can get stuck into the work too
[19:37] <EnderTheThird> anyone else here use one of the cheapo Korean 2560x1440 monitors from eBay?  Ubuntu is having a heck of a time with this monitor/resolution.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> !es | Juanopsy
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Juanopsy, The channel is english but there is a spanish channel for ubuntu.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: file bugs
[19:37] <Juanopsy> thanks
[19:38] <Juanopsy> I would apresiate english help anyway...
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I do what is needed I have been using open source for about 5 years I have run every major linux distro minus gentoo, I'm far from a noob.
[19:38] <roberto> grandal_prime, what happens if you run ntpq and the pe command? See any scary results?
[19:39] <genii-around> nsudo: Yes, hfsplus and hfsutils packages from synaptic or apt-get or Software Center or however you normally install packages in your Ubuntu
[19:39] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:40] <grandal_prime> roberto -e ?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I have not actually had a bug that was not already reported as well.
[19:41] <grandal_prime> illegal option for -pe
[19:41] <grandal_prime> it doesnt like the e
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: even if you confirm bugs or give good examples of how to trigger them
[19:41] <Sebastia> Hi @ all! my name is Sebastian Tischer and I am student at the university of technology in Dresden and need to talk to some developers or employes within the company/foundation...
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: simply saying "there's a bug" isn't actually that helpful
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: what's *really* helpful is if people can find bugs in the bug tracker and see if they work
[19:41] <gordonjcp> "yeah, I get that too"
[19:42] <grandal_prime> im listening on port 123 thats correct right?
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I will agree to disagree here, I'm not a CSM I have other interests I'm not bound by any moral sense but to follow the studies I am doing right now, not a forced you should do this from anthers personal reality. ;)
[19:43] <Sebastia> I need to get some basic company questions answered for my bachelor thesis which discusses open source software companies...
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I have over 12000 posts on the UF helping under 3 different nicks, separately of course, who knows how many here I have helped the community.
[19:44] <grandal_prime> i dont see anything on that port
[19:44] <xangua> Sebastia: you know this is a Comunitty suport channel right¿
[19:44] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: see?  You *are* contributing ;-)
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Sebastia  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <Sebastia> yeah but I wasn't sure where to start! can you recommend one?
[19:45] <Sebastia> ah thank you! I will try there!
[19:45] <alusion> Is there a way to setup a preview column with ubuntus default file explorer?
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Sebastia  a friend of mine has written an academic paper about open source, some years ago
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, YES that is why I am offended slightly when others say you should do this when I have done a lot already under the guise that works for me.
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:46] <Sebastia> @MonkeyDust: Thank you! I already wrote an email to the press team but got no answer yet
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> any on to W7 to write papers
[19:48] <Advocated> Hi there, i'm doing an rsync on a server, ive just looked at it remotely and its showing as 3 occurences of it running(via ps aux | grep rsync)  is that normal?
[19:49] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Do they all look exactly the same or is there any destinguealbe difference
[19:50] <maysara> Hi, anyone know how to activate hibernation?
[19:50] <Advocated> FlipShaw, all look exactly the same :s
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> maysara  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/enable-hibernation-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:51] <chemaher76> Good because my problem is out the following: I have an HP ProBook 4510s and several times I installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. I usually play a game called Spiral Knights that can be played perfectly on Linux, but nose if it's CPU or GPU but soon overheats and the laptop is turned off, only happens in Linux in Windows does not happen to unless you take many hours of play. A friend told me that Linux uses more CPU for Windows games that
[19:51] <chemaher76> is based more on graphics and can pull that's the problem. Perhaps with an energy saving program or something could fix the problem, a greeting.
[19:51] <maysara> MonkeyDust, thx a lot
[19:52] <nsudo>  cant delete on hfs partition on ububtu
[19:52] <Sazpaimon_> is 2.6.32 EOL yet?
[19:53] <Advocated> FlipShaw, whats that mean then?
[19:53] <Ganharb> Hey guys... im about 3 days into the ubuntu experience lol doing all the wine stuff so i can play wow and ive decided i miss windows... atleast as far as playing wow goes.. now i no longer have windows on my pc and i was wondering if theres a very small version of windows i can put on a partition for wow only ... is there a term for this? because i dont even know what to google.
[19:53] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: what are you running that on?
[19:53] <vvpalin> nsudo, smash said harddrive with hammer = deleted hfs partition
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Ganharb  better ask in ##windows
[19:53] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Can you show me the output for the processes
[19:53] <Advocated> yeah, sec
[19:54] <nsudo> vvpalin u are not helping
[19:54] <Sazpaimon_> ThinkT510, nothing now, just wondering
[19:54] <gordonjcp> nsudo: hfs support is a bit spotty
[19:54] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: lucid supports it
[19:54] <nsudo> gordonjcp i am able to read though
[19:54] <Advocated> FlipShaw, http://pastebin.com/vLexEPbg
[19:55] <Sazpaimon_> last release of 2.6.32 was .59 which was a few months ago, just curious if that was probably the last release
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: yup
[19:55] <roberto> grandal_prime, no ntpq <enter>
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> Sazpaimon_  of what program exactly?
[19:55] <roberto> then pe
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: the filesystem may be mounted read-only
[19:55] <Sazpaimon_> MonkeyDust, kernel
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> oh
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: my HFS+ partition is borked at the moment and will *only* mount read-only
[19:55] <nsudo> gordonjcp how to make it the other way
[19:56] <FlipShaw> Advocated: This doesn't look right, I believe those are all copies
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> 3.2.0-31 here
[19:56] <nsudo> gordonjcp cool
[19:57] <Advocated> FlipShaw, yeah i;m thinking so too, i might kill them all and start them from here. I have a query though. i started that rsync at work, im cancelling it from home and will start it again from home, will it be slower?
[19:57] <guntbert> roberto: for reference: ntpq -p   will do the same  :)
[19:57] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: 10.04 uses 2.6.32 so its supported until 10.04 is eol
[19:59] <FlipShaw> Advocated: It should not be noticably slower.  But refer to this article quickly, I've used it to my benefit many times http://sun3.org/archives/280
[20:00] <roberto> grandal_prime,  guntbert, thanks. Have to go, hope someone can help out.
[20:00] <grandal_prime> roberto.  yes there is ntpq
[20:00] <grandal_prime>  e does nothing
[20:00] <maysara> Is there a way to move the bar on the left to bottom?
[20:00] <Advocated> FlipShaw, thanks ill look. you know for bwlimit=whatever  how do i know what I can use as a max?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> maysara: not supported
[20:00] <grandal_prime> by the way i just realized the hardware time was correct.
[20:00] <grandal_prime> the system time wasnt though
[20:00] <grandal_prime> werid
[20:01] <caydeesoft> ubuntu 12.04 has bugs lyk several....
[20:02] <sayers> Anyone from Cyprus ?
[20:02] <sw> !cy
[20:02] <sw> aparently not
[20:02] <xxSnIp3rxx> caydeesoft: yep.. namely the wireless drivers
[20:03] <guntbert> grandal_prime: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html ?
[20:03] <FlipShaw> Advocated: You could check the man page, but let me see what I get on mine really quick
[20:04] <FlipShaw> Advocated:It looks like it is only limited by your network settings, its in Kilobytes per second
[20:05] <Advocated> FlipShaw, so if i don't specify anything, its not going to kill my server is it?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sayers  turkish or greek?
[20:05] <genii-around> sayers: Depending on language could use perhaps !tr or !gr
[20:06] <sayers> greek of course
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[20:06] <sayers> I was looking for local people not greek/cypriot channels, m8
[20:06] <grandal_prime> guntbert, yes that is what im following to set this up
[20:07] <grandal_prime> i also get to those servers and get data back from them
[20:07] <grandal_prime> the time straigt up just does not set right
[20:07] <ThinkT510> sayers: you are more likely to find them there
[20:07] <grandal_prime> 13:05:20.624324 IP 10.10.0.10.123 > 173.193.227.67.123: NTPv4, Client, length 48
[20:07] <sayers> :)
[20:07] <guntbert> grn
[20:07] <grandal_prime> 13:05:20.713619 IP 173.193.227.67.123 > 10.10.0.10.123: NTPv4, Server, length 48
[20:07] <grandal_prime> thats the return traffic
[20:07] <genii-around> sayers: #ubuntu-cy does exist, it's for the LoCo team for Cyprus.
[20:08] <grandal_prime> the request goes out..comes back..box does nothing with it
[20:08] <grandal_prime> its werd
[20:08] <guntbert> grandal_prime: I suggest you stop your ntpd for a moment, then use ntpdate to jump to the correct time and then restart ntpd
[20:08] <FlipShaw> Advocated: No, but if you are worried about it, just pass the command with --bwlimit={how ever much bandwith you can afford to give to it}
[20:08] <sayers> loco team ? i'm not quiet sure that football team exist in our league
[20:09] <Advocated> FlipShaw, i need to rsync 200gb, it was at 500kb but it wasnt doing a lot very fast lol, but i dont wanna set it too much
[20:09] <grandal_prime> if i install ntpdate, ntp will not work
[20:09] <guntbert> !who | grandal_prime
[20:10] <guntbert> grandal_prime: no, it is the other way round: you cannot use ntpdate while ntpd is running
[20:10] <KM0201> grandal_prime: did you update the ntpd.conf?
[20:10] <grandal_prime> KM0201, yes
[20:10] <FlipShaw> Advocated: For me to make a good decision I need to know what both Internet connection speeds run at and what the speed of both networks is; but if you don't want to type all that, just try 256, that's not alot for todays netoworks
[20:10] <KM0201> hmm
[20:11] <KM0201> grandal_prime: pastebin the contents of ntp.conf
[20:11] <grandal_prime> ntp service is off
[20:11] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Sorry, I mean 128
[20:11] <grandal_prime>  ntpdate[13083]: no servers can be used, exiting
[20:12] <guntbert> grandal_prime: listen to KM0201
[20:12] <Advocated> FlipShaw, 128KB?
[20:13] <FlipShaw> Advocated: That's what I would do with my network specs, that's why it is hard to give you a good estimate, alot of variables; but yest.  Just pass rsync saying --bwlimit=128
[20:13] <Advocated> FlipShaw, but 128kbps surely for 200GB is going to take weeks?
[20:15] <FlipShaw> Advocated: My mistake, very sorry.  You're best bet is to just leave it default, default is no limit
[20:15] <bekks> Advocated: 151 days ;)
[20:17] <Advocated> bekks, lol, how can i work it out, ie 200gb / whatever kbps = how many hours? or what kinda speed would I need to run it at to do it in say 8 hours?
[20:18] <FlipShaw> Advocated: It would be 6.5 MBytes per second
[20:18] <Advocated> ahh, i should be able todo that no problem I think
[20:19] <FlipShaw> Advocated:Sorry, no, its 7.1mbyte per sec
[20:19] <sayers> I purchased earlier today (around 6:00 pm) wired router TP-Link R402M and I just plug the ether rj45 cable and everything is running normally. Is it normal that in linux to plug some device without the necessary(rity) to install/compile the drivers ?
[20:19] <Advocated> FlipShaw, how u calculating that?
[20:19] <bekks> Advocated: 200GB = 200*1024*1024 MB = 200*(1024^4) Byte = 8*200*(1024^4) Bit ...
[20:19] <grandal_prime> guntbert, i pointed it to a diff ntp server
[20:19] <bekks> Advocated: And 128 kBps = 128*1024 Bit per second.
[20:21] <BluesKaj> sayers, ethernet is mostly plug and play on ubuntu  now unless you have some exotic router
[20:21] <guntbert> grandal_prime: what happens now? please !pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf
[20:21] <sayers> Sounds that I could throw the CD drivers ... sweet ! Thanks dude :)
[20:22] <BluesKaj> sayers, keep in case you install wndows on a another partition or pc
[20:23] <guntbert> grandal_prime: and while you are at it please pastebin the output of ntpq -p as well
[20:23] <FlipShaw> Advocated: I just divided the total data needed to copy by the amount of hours you wanted to copy it, divided by minutes than by seconds
[20:23] <Advocated> ahh oh yeah, my brain isnt working, tired++ but thanks for the help FlipShaw, bekks
[20:24] <FlipShaw> Advocated: I did it all in bytes too, so I might have gotten messed up, but it should be fine! :) Math can be one of my fallys
[20:24] <JuanoPsy> please some help, My ubuntu 12.04 LTS is crashing randomly every 10 minutes or so, mostly whith firefox, or when runing 3 or more softwares at the same time, or when heavy loaded like, facebook, banshee, inkscape, something else at the same time, but also if I run only "some" movies it crashes... the crash is always the same, full freeze, mouse, keyboard, screen, and the last bit of sound repeating in a infinite loop... my system p
[20:24] <sayers> Okay , great tip .
[20:25] <boldfilter1> JuanoPsy: Sucks bro
[20:25] <JuanoPsy> System specs are: Intel® Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (says x2 but is only one), 32-bit, 937,2 MiB Ram, Graphics Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370
[20:26] <JuanoPsy> boldfilterl: what you mean ?
[20:28] <ejo> JuanoPsy: First suspects might be memory, video driver, power supply...
[20:29] <genii-around> Yes, 1G of ram is pretty slim. Might be hitting a bad area on the swap partition or some other similar issue.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> JuanoPsy,, not a lot of memory there
[20:30] <harovali> hi, I'm in gnome , using evolution, and it asks me for the keyring password to unlock it, and I forgot which password goes there, I have root access to the machine, how can I change the keyring password?
[20:30] <JuanoPsy> ejo, but if is memory, how do I fix it?
[20:30] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: Should probably run memtest from the boot-up screen to see if it is your memory
[20:31] <JuanoPsy> I know is not much memory..
[20:31] <JuanoPsy> ok, mem test
[20:31] <NiteRain> Having a issue with php curl not working over https
[20:32] <NiteRain> should I just compile it from source?
[20:33] <niksSsSssssssS> hello everyone
[20:33]  * niksSsSssssssS Does anyone knows how can i fix wicd (connect-disconnecting) on bt5? 
[20:33] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: If your ram ends up with no errors after memtest runs,  I suggest to unmount your swap partition and run badblocks  on it to see if it's physically going.
[20:34] <bergelmir> i just removed 'gnome-games' which uninstalled 'gnome-desktop-environment' but now apt wants to uninstall hundrets of packages too...
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> niksSsSssssssS  type /join #backtrack-linux, it is not supported here
[20:34] <niksSsSssssssS> oh ok MonkeyDust  ty
[20:35] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: sorry, what you mean by unmount my swap partition?
[20:35] <bergelmir> i don't know if it is okay to uninstall all these packages. some of them sounds like i still need them.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, don't remove them . you'can't remove some apps with uninstalling the whole desktop
[20:37] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: When programs run out of physical ram that your computer has, it starts to use disk space as if it is more ram. The disk space is called swap. Most times people have a separate partition for this. If you type: grep swap /etc/fstab   it should tell you what partition it is using for that.
[20:38] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, are you using software center od apt ?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> or
[20:38] <BluesKaj> apt-get
[20:38] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: apt-get
[20:39] <devish> i run dual boot and i need to install windows again but this will leave the grub broken....how can i recover my ubuntu /grub after fresh window install?
[20:39] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: man thx... I'll try that...
[20:39] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, answer no , if it's asking if you want to remove those packages
[20:40] <bergelmir> yeah, everything is fine again, but isn't there a way to uninstall or hide the games!?
[20:41] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: It returns "/host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none            swap    loop,sw         0       0"
[20:41] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: First you do: sudo swapoff -a     Then you run the badblocks program on it to see if it's physically failing. If it is, you have to find another place to use for swap. You can put swap back on by: sudo swapon -a
[20:42] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: So in this case you are using a file for swap and not a partition
[20:42] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: You are using Wubi ?
[20:43] <JuanoPsy> yes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi
[20:43] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, now install the gnome-desktop-environment , because if you don't, on the next boot you won't have a desktop
[20:44] <adwaitnd> have to install the android SDK on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit for a system located behng an authenticated http proxy. SDK manager always fails to load packages to install.
[20:45] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: yes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi
[20:46] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: everthing is fine again :)
[20:46] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, did you reboot ?
[20:46] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: nope
[20:47] <bustacap> Does anyone know if I can save the fan speed for my nvidia gpu so it applies itself on boot?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, hope you installed the desktop like I suggested
[20:48] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: yep ;)
[20:48] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, good :)
[20:48] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: Unfortunately I am not very familiar with Wubi. But my first suspicion here is that you don't have enough ram.
[20:48] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: apt-get is not mentioning any packages
[20:49] <adwaitnd> bustacap: if you installed the nvidia drivers, there should be an option in the nvidia X-server settings to define fan speeds. Once set in there, its stored.
[20:49] <escapeplan> I need help with getting my fluidsynthplugin to work in Tuxguitar !
[20:49] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, the commands aren't entirely finished until the next reboot , sort of like windows update
[20:50] <bustacap> adwaitnd, It's not saved on boot, everything besides fan speed stays.
[20:50] <orated> Hello! I've two sound cards listed after issuing cat /proc/asound/cards -- one on-board, other USB audio. How can I make USB audio as default card from command line?
[20:50] <bustacap> adwaitnd, each boot I need to re-click I agree on their warning about adjusting fan speeds lol.
[20:50] <JuanoPsy> genii-around:  shure, thanks anyway... I'm tring to learn how to do the badblock test... and I'll see...
[20:51] <anomaly> I do not need text to speech, like festival.  I just want basic voice recognition so I could like "open terminal".   anything out there worthwhile?  I can not seem to get much info on julius or simon.
[20:51] <adwaitnd> bustacap: how about starting x server settings using sudo?
[20:51] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: I'm not sure if badblocks will work on a file.
[20:52] <BluesKaj> orated, have you set them up in phonon yet ?
[20:53] <orated> BluesKaj: Hey, no I'm not sure how to do that
[20:53] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: Ohhh....
[20:55] <JuanoPsy> genii-around:  May be if I install the ubuntu on the computer fixes the problem?
[20:55] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: You might want to run the chdsk C: /f      on your main drive from inside Window's command prompt to make sure your ntfs is OK.
[20:56] <bergelmir> damn, how to stop a script that is starting itself?
[20:56] <bergelmir> can't kill them fast enough :(
[20:56] <black_joe> What is the name of the script bergelmir?
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> bergelmir  open a new terminal window, pkill the script name
[20:57] <bergelmir> 20575  0.0  0.0  17984  1384 ?        S    22:57   0:00 /bin/bash /home/jan/Games/ftlgame/FTL
[20:57] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: It is possible. Might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_migrate_to_a_real_partition.2C_and.2BAC8-or_get_rid_of_Windows_entirely.3F   if you want to move the wubi install to a real partition. Because you have so little ram, it's probably best to dual-boot and not run Ubuntu from inside of Windows
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> bergelmir  kill 20575
[20:57] <bergelmir> i am currently trying to kill the all with: ps aux | grep -v grep | grep FTL | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs kill -9
[20:58] <bergelmir> MonkeyDust: there are hundrets and i can't kill them fast enough :D
[20:58] <_0x783czar> Hey, for some reason, everytime I try and replace the /etc/sudoers file with my own, it breaks sudo.  I've kept the right permissions and everthing but I just breaks everytime.
[20:58]  * genii-around sips and ponders the bergelmir forkbomb
[20:58] <bergelmir> while killing some of them, others are already spawning new processes
[20:58] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: Yeahh.. shure... but I think I have dual boot...
[20:59] <usr13> _0x783czar: Why not just edit it with visudo ?
[21:00] <bergelmir> genii-around: hmm :D
[21:00] <_0x783czar> usr13: I'm doing server automation accross a large number of servers.  So that's out of the question
[21:00] <genii-around> bergelmir: What does the process belong to or do? If it has some entry in /etc/init  or /etc/init.d you could try stopping it that way with sudo stop <name> or sudo /etc/init.d/<name> stop
[21:00] <_0x783czar> usr13: however, if I do use visudo everything works fine
[21:00] <usr13> _0x783czar: I see.
[21:01] <bergelmir> genii-around: is there a way to break out of this infinite loop without restarting my computer?
[21:02] <usr13> _0x783czar: but I do not see how it could be that much harder.
[21:02] <genii-around> bergelmir: Without knowing exacty what's causing it to start, hard to know what to kill/stop
[21:02] <_0x783czar> usr13: how would I use visudo do do it in a script?
[21:02] <genii-around> bergelmir: What's the processes full name?
[21:02] <usr13> _0x783czar: You wouldn't.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> bergelmir  or killall ftl*
[21:03] <_0x783czar> usr13: are you suggesting manually editing visudo on every machine?
[21:03] <bergelmir> $0 $0
[21:04] <genii-around> MonkeyDust: He's grepping for FTL but that might not be the full name
[21:04] <usr13> _0x783czar: You mean sudoers.  But clearly, your method requires reconsideration/repair.
[21:04] <auronandace> faster than light grep, now that i gotta see
[21:05] <bergelmir> yeah, got them all killed :)
[21:05] <_0x783czar> usr13: in what way?  This method works on other distros, so I'm wondering what would be causing my problem on ubuntu.
[21:08] <EvilAngel> does linux support ssd trim out of the box?
[21:08] <_0x783czar> usr13: do you have any suggestions?  because I can't manually edit sudoers through visudo on every machine.
[21:09] <dr_willis> EvilAngel: i think most distros do these dats
[21:09] <dr_willis> days
[21:09] <m0nster> hello ...im looking for some help
[21:10] <_0x783czar> m0nster: in what way?
[21:10] <m0nster> i installed ubuntu using wubi... and my keyboard and mouse wouldnt work when i booted into it
[21:10] <m0nster> im in the process of downloading ubuntu desktop iso...
[21:11] <m0nster> was gonna try to install the kubuntu... but it couldnt do it in wubi... saw some where on google saying to try to install kde insstead
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[21:11] <m0nster> but i also want to install ubuntu alongside my windows 7
[21:11] <m0nster> and not lose ANYTHING
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  that's the correct way
[21:12] <dr_willis> the wubi installer should have download the iso.
[21:12] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | m0nster
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  if you have a partition large enough to install ubuntu
[21:13] <m0nster> i do... 500gb
[21:13] <bergelmir> thank you guys! need some sleep now ;)
[21:13] <woot-0854> what is a irc channel for music?
[21:13] <kydan> hey guys, Im trying to get a bit of help with a bash script I am modifying. I am getting the following errors for some BC stuff that is being run. (standard_in) 2: syntax error (standard_in) 1: syntax error. http://pastebin.com/xvgR8xEX for the code that I believe is in question.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  nice, tip: create a separate /home partition
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> woot-0854  type /msg alis list *music*
[21:14] <kydan> I am not super familiar with bash scripting so I really have no idea whats up, especially since another section of it that runs for another var seems to be working fine.
[21:14] <myersg> how do I block Mumble from a router?
[21:15] <kydan> myersg: you want to prevent mumble from being used on a network?
[21:15] <m0nster> thing is im a lameman when it comes to anything partitioning
[21:15] <myersg> yes
[21:15] <m0nster> thats why i liked wubi
[21:15] <kydan> myersg: clients from using it I assume.
[21:16] <myersg> so do you know how?
[21:16] <woot-0854> thanks MonkeyDust
[21:16] <m0nster> Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 58, in run
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 132, in select_task
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 158, in run_installer
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\tasklist.py", line 197, in __call__
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 595, in get_iso
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 406, in download_iso
[21:16] <FloodBot1> m0nster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <kydan> myersg: well, Im not quite sure that its possible with consumer hardware
[21:17] <myersg> hmm...
[21:17] <luist> where do i get libquazip.so.1 for ubuntu??
[21:17] <woot-0854> MonkeyDust, I seem to have failed at doing that any meta I miss?
[21:17] <myersg> I have a dlink router setup..
[21:19] <kydan> myersg: if you know the IP's of the mumble server you could do that
[21:19] <myersg> of the mumble server that they use?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> woot-0854  about 40 music channel, type /msg alis list *music*
[21:19] <kydan> myersg: yes
[21:19] <genii-around> luist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libquazip.so.1&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any Package search for that file does not show it existing in any package from official repositories.
[21:20] <myersg> how do I find that out?
[21:22] <rtcg> I've been trying various steps suggested on many a google search but I'm still unable to get 10.04 to see my Intell 1e20 sound card.    aplay -l  returns only "no soundcards found..."
[21:23] <rtcg> can someone suggest the proper approach to get this working on 10.04?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> rtcg  consider upgrading to 12.04
[21:23] <rtcg> Not an option in this case.
[21:23] <rtcg> custom app requires this version of ubuntu.
[21:23] <rtcg> or rather.   Programmers/support staff require this version of ubuntu.
[21:25] <gordonjcp> rtcg: looks like you'd need a newer kernel
[21:25] <gordonjcp> rtcg: which isn't going to happen in an LTS
[21:25] <rtcg> Is it a kernel driver that is missing?   or is it that modprobe isn't finding the driver?
[21:26] <zykotick9> rtcg: lucid was based off debian squeeze.  you could also try searching online if anyone has your intel sound card model (and it isn't 1e20) working in current debian stable (aka squeeze)
[21:26] <gordonjcp> well modprobe would find it if it was there
[21:26] <myersg> how do I do it with the Ip?
[21:26] <jrib> rtcg: well, there are some backported kernels in the repositories... see if they make a difference
[21:26] <gordonjcp> rtcg: do they actually need the sound card?
[21:27] <rtcg> I asked twice.   They do in fact need the sound driver to make the computer send an audible alarm.
[21:27] <gordonjcp> rtcg: then go on eBay and buy a cheap USB sound adaptor
[21:27] <jrib> rtcg: use the pc speaker
[21:27] <gordonjcp> rtcg: seriously, how much is your time worth?
[21:27] <jrib> rtcg: more seriously, see if the linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric kernel makes a difference
[21:27] <rtcg> Kernel driver, backported kernels,  squeeze....  I'll make some quick searches there.
[21:28] <gordonjcp> rtcg: you could also tell them not to be so bloody ridiculous and update their systems
[21:28] <rtcg> I'll weigh my time against the cost of multiple usb sound cards.
[21:28] <rtcg> I agree gordonjcp !!  Someone needs to get on the ball and update their software (which probably doesn't need updating)
[21:28] <rtcg> Just support the upgraded version...sheesh!
[21:28] <gordonjcp> rtcg: try it and see
[21:29] <kydan> myersg: well, I am assuming you dont know who is using mumble, so if you know their IP you could use wireshark to sniff the traffic on their IP and see where they are connecting and figure out what the IP is from that.
[21:29] <gordonjcp> what *is* this magic custom software, anyway?
[21:29] <kydan> myersg: but thats fairly involved
[21:29] <rtcg> I don't have the luxury of trying it at this moment, but thank you for the suggestions.
[21:29] <rtcg> phone PBX call center software.
[21:29] <myersg> I know the servers IP now.
[21:29] <myersg> here is a demo of the router I am using: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/login.html
[21:31] <kydan> myersg: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/adv_access_control.html
[21:31] <kydan> enable access control and then build a policy that blocks traffic to that IP
[21:31] <myersg> thank you I will try
[21:32] <kydan> myersg: yep np. I got to go, goo luck
[21:32] <kydan> good*
[21:32] <Hapz> so i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program
[21:32] <Hapz> i want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them
[21:32] <Hapz> how the hell do i remove that stupid feature
[21:36] <dr_willis> its not stupid.
[21:37] <alusion> how do I preview files with nautilus?
[21:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/157849/is-it-possible-to-preview-arbitrary-formats-in-nautilus
[21:39] <alusion> I think I will just install dolphin lol
[21:39] <dr_willis> gloobus-preview   is a neat addon
[21:39] <dr_willis> !info gloobus-preview
[21:39] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/gloobus
[21:39] <gillo> ! shoppingOS
[21:40] <alusion> btw dr_willis, I was installing debian and accidently overwrote my windows partition with an encrypted partition -- is there a possibility of recovering my data?
[21:40] <dr_willis> alusion:  i would be suprised if it was possible.  #windows may know.
[21:41] <JasonF> If I'm automatically doing some things to a server, is there a way to force apt/aptitude to never give me the "keep/replace/examine" dialog box on a conflicted file?
[21:42] <zykotick9> JasonF: 1) i hope not.  2) don't use aptitude with 12.04 (see "/msg ubottu aptitude" for confirmation)
[21:42] <JasonF> zykotick9: so you'
[21:42] <Guddu> s
[21:43] <JasonF> zykotick9: you're telling there's no way to disable that dialog box? To pre-make the decision?
[21:43] <JasonF> zykotick9: fwiw, I was using apt in all those cases.
[21:43] <zykotick9> JasonF: there might be... i just hope not.
[21:43] <olga__> i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.
[21:43] <JasonF> Well, I hope you're wrong?
[21:43] <dr_willis> JasonF:  i imagine there is.
[21:43] <sveinse> When precisely does the ubuntu kernel apply the vga= command line parameter? I've set it, but it still boots the first half of the kernel startup in 80x24 mode
[21:44] <dr_willis> olga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq
[21:53] <dr_willis> Hmmm
[21:54] <olga__> i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.
[21:54] <dr_willis> olga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq
[21:54] <dr_willis> and 'enter my pm' dosent really make sence. ;)
[21:55] <olga__> sorry my enlish is poore
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[21:56] <HypothesisFrog> ecadre is that so?
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> olga__  are you russian?
 yes? but nobudy in ruus chat codn't help me
[22:00] <validus> Hi, I'd like some help with Advanced Format on the WD Drives?
[22:00] <leo-unglaub> hey, i just wanted to try 12.10 but i can't find any alternate images
[22:00] <leo-unglaub> where are they?
[22:01] <Hapz> dr_willis so you have an idea?
[22:01] <upset> I downloaded source code with bzr branch.... but I don't know where it went....
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> leo-unglaub  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:01] <leo-unglaub> MonkeyDust: okay, thx
[22:01] <upset> Where does bzr material go by default
[22:02] <Jordan_U> validus: We can't help you until you actually ask a question :)
[22:03] <dr_willis> leo-unglaub:  i was thinking with 12.10+ they were going desktop only. but im not sure if that was just a possbility, or allready been decided
[22:03] <dr_willis> leo-unglaub:  ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:03] <HypothesisFrog> dr_willis you mean no official server edition?
[22:03] <leo-unglaub> dr_willis: already did
[22:03] <leo-unglaub> thx
[22:04] <dr_willis> HypothesisFrog:  i dont pay attention to server news really.
[22:04] <JasonF> For anyone in the future reading IRC logs with my problem: Just export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[22:04] <dr_willis> I was thinking the alternative installer got rolled into the desktop edition, or somthing like that.
[22:04] <JasonF> or apt-get install debconf-docs; man 7 debconf
[22:04] <dr_willis> JasonF:  the man pages pay off. ;)
[22:05] <JasonF> dr_willis: only when you know what to man
[22:05] <JasonF> dr_willis: almost always when I come to IRC, I'm just looking for the word to toss into google
[22:05] <JasonF> :P
[22:05] <validus> Okay, my problem is almost identical to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103855/partition-is-misaligned-by-3072-bytes-pavilion-dv7-6199us
[22:06] <upset> Can no one help me understand baazar and launchpad?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> upset  why use it if you don't know what it is?
[22:07] <Kingsy> guys, is there a resource you can check when looking for ppa's? reputable ppas at that.. no doubt there are alot that are no longer maintained etc..
[22:07] <rtcg> It's amazing what one can do when one removes one's brain from between their butt-cheeks!
[22:08] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[22:08] <designbybeck> I dont see a 1GB nVIDIA Quadro 2000 on the Ubuntu Hardware list... might it still be supported?
[22:08] <rtcg> Thank you guys!  aplay now shows a sound card.  I'm back to regular sound setup issues now.
[22:08] <upset> MonkeyDust: Wow, courtesy is not your strong suit
[22:08] <upset> MonkeyDust: Is it not a program for downloading, modifying, and uploading software to and from Launchpad?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> validus: So Windows' installer created misaligned partitions?
[22:10] <validus> No...
[22:11] <validus> jordan: i installed ubuntu from the start, there is a misaligned sector error
[22:11] <validus> it says in disk utility:
[22:11] <validus> WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested.
[22:12] <validus> its something to do with Western Digital HDs and their 4KiB sectors
[22:12] <upset> I can't execute "bzr builddeb lp:agenda-tasks"  because it says there's no changelog
[22:12] <Jordan_U> validus: Are you dual booting Ubuntu and Windows? Which partition does disk utility say is misaligned?
[22:12] <rtcg> A decent tap with a hammer should align it.
[22:12] <validus> jordan: no i am not
[22:12] <upset> rtcg Everyone's a comedian
[22:13] <validus> jordan: the extended partition
[22:13] <Jordan_U> validus: Ubuntu's installer is specifically designed to achieve optimal allignment when it does automatic partitioning. Did you use automatic partitioning when installing Ubuntu?
[22:13] <validus> jordan: yep
[22:14] <validus> fresh install on my new system
[22:14] <Jordan_U> validus: Please use my full nick (Jordan_U) or I may miss your messages. You can use the tab key to auto-complete nicks.
[22:14] <jesseFromYVR> I'd like to access my routers web server admin page from a remote computer.   Can anyone describe/point to a tutorial that will tell me how to do this? I'm guessing the approach would be some kind of ssh tunnel.
[22:14] <dr_willis> you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' validus
[22:15] <validus> Jordan_U: Okay cool
[22:15] <dr_willis> jesseFromYVR:  easier way would be to use SSH's X forwarding feature and run a browser on the server. but have it appear locally.
[22:15] <rtcg> jesseFromYVR: Some routers have external management that you can enable.  You can also create a NAT entry in your router to go to the correct internal router's management URL.
[22:15] <dr_willis> My router has a access anywhere feature/account thing. :)
[22:16] <validus> Jordan_U: one second
[22:16] <rp2> ssh -L8080:ocalhost:80 user@webserver
[22:16] <rp2> but with an extra l in there
[22:17] <rp2> should do the trick (or similar)
[22:17] <rp2> if the sshd config doesn't disable -L
[22:17] <p5000> hi
[22:17] <rp2> p5000: ho
[22:18] <jesseFromYVR> thanks for the suggestions… I guess more generally, is it possible to connect to remote LAN in a way that you can connect to the remote LAN's computers using their 192.168. addresses
[22:18] <rp2> Jordan_U: nifty. I had no idea I could use TAB to autocomplete nicks. thanks
[22:19] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: that isn't entirely clear to me
[22:19] <validus> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/iW44bMsK
[22:19] <dr_willis> jesseFromYVR:  i think that is basically what a 'vpn' is.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> rp2: You're welcome :)
[22:19] <rp2> but it could also be what 'NAT' is
[22:19] <rp2> please be more specific
[22:20] <dr_willis> out of the lan to the outside world would be a NAT.   from what im 'thinking' :)
[22:20] <gurkee> Hello! I installed munin-node on my 12.04 server -- however `start munin-node` as well as `stop munin-node` hang. I have to kill them. Running `munin-node` works just fine.
[22:20] <dr_willis> to the whole lan as if you were connected physically to it..  sounds like how vpn's work to me. but i rarely do this advanced stuff
[22:22] <dr_willis> gurkee:  you mean you run it as a user and it works?
[22:22] <gurkee> dr_willis: as root, yes
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> gurkee, "root" is different than what we mean by "user"
[22:23] <gurkee> dr_willis: somehow the upstart scripts are irritated. what are they waiting for? as I say, start as well as stop just hangs and does not return
[22:23] <Asad> anyone know a GUI text diff? not file diff, but text diff .. as in paste two text blocks and get diff .. ?
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> Asad, diff file1 file2 > file, and then you open that new file up in gedit or something?
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> or are you looking for a side-by-side diff compare?
[22:24] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: I'm in LAN A. The router's webpage I want to access is in LAN B, with address 192.168.A.B … I'd like to be able to 'join' LAN A, from a computer in LAN B, so that I can type address 192.168.A.B in my web browser and access  the routers admin page
[22:24] <gurkee> TheLordOfTime: aye :) however, in this case we are clear. I think I have to somehow reset the service state of munin-node so that upstart thinks it is not running.
[22:25] <gurkee> dr_willis: also, munin-node is by default configured in a way that it runs as root
[22:25] <jesseFromYVR> er.. scratch the first sentence "I'm in LAN A" … makes the statement more confusing
[22:26] <OerHeks> jesseFromYVR, make an DMZ connection, sometime works to acces the router setup
[22:26] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: ugh - looks like a chicken & egg problem. the router will have to let you through somehow
[22:26] <like_> omg scrip`ppp
[22:26] <gurkee> dr_willis, TheLordOfTime: what my question mainly is: what could the upstart script be waiting for? I have no idea at which point it waits for something if it does not even find a running process during `stop` action.
[22:26] <validus> Jordan_U: Any idea??
[22:27] <rp2> doyou knowanythign about the router's configuration or on what services are available on LAN B  machines. like, can you get through with ssh?
[22:28] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: I have set up port forwarding to allow ssh access to LAN B
[22:28] <Jordan_U> validus: It's only your swap partition which is misaligned, so you should be able to delete it and re-create it with GParted (from a LiveCD/USB, the standard Ubuntu Live image contains Gparted) and GParted should align it properly.
[22:28] <jesseFromYVR> so I could do the VNC.. but I find it laggy
[22:29] <validus> Jordan_U: I don't mind doing a fresh install as my setup is only a few days old
[22:29] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: you don't need VnC to access a web server ... forward the webserver's port (router:80)
[22:29] <validus> Jordan_U: So how do you recommend I go about doing that from scratch?
[22:30] <rp2> ssh -L 8888:router:80 user@lanBmachine
[22:30] <gurkee> TheLordOfTime: the problem is that I cannot reinstall munin-conf, because during apt-get operation, the service is tried to be stopped -- which also hangs. if I kill the stop process, then the whole apt-get operation fails.
[22:30] <rp2> if that makes sense to you
[22:30] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: vaguely.. let me experiment :)
[22:31] <phii-tard> I keep getting this crash report from wicd
[22:33] <Jordan_U> validus: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD, open GParted, make sure that the correct drive is selected, then go to Device -> Create Partition Table. Create an msdos partition table, then apply the change, then exit GParted and install Ubuntu normally.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> validus: If after that you still have a misaligned partition, please file a bug report by running "ubuntu-bug ubiquity".
[22:34] <phii-tard> claims to be a duplicate of a bug that doesn't exist ( #628432 ) and all the other bug reports google can give me just say "this is a duplicate of bug #628432, any discussion should take place over there." ...but there isn't a bug #628432
[22:34] <phii-tard> see?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> phii-tard: It probably does exist, but is private for some reason.
[22:36] <validus> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[22:36] <phii-tard> oh. so...*if* there's a cure or a workaround, i need somebody on the wicd-daemon dev team to tell me what it is? :-(
[22:37] <Jordan_U> phii-tard: Whoever marked it a duplicate probably didn't realize that it was private, since they could see it. Try asking in #ubuntu-bugs how best to go about resolving the problem.
[22:38] <gimpy38> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?
[22:41] <fippo> Hi, I exchanged my lucid installation disks into the new ivy bridge computer and updated initramfs with ata_piix, but the controller isn't recognized, the module not loaded and I'm dropping into busybox, why? Doesn't the lucid kernel support ivy bridge panther point?
[22:43] <fippo> precise works, but I didn't updated the old lucid box to precise before the disk replacement.
[22:44] <fippo> i mean precise live-cd works
[22:48] <rtcg> So what IS the sound system in 10.04?   alsa, pulseaudio, esound?  I don't even know the question to ask -- I just have to correct the studdering/echoing audio.
[22:48] <Dr_willis> pulse audio uses alsa rtcg .
[22:48] <zykotick9> rtcg: pulse which uses alsa!  pulse replaces esd (esound)
[22:49] <rtcg> even in 10.04?  Okay  I'll google around for audo problems with pulse
[22:49] <zykotick9> rtcg: that's a long list ;)  best of luck.
[22:49] <Dr_willis> pulse has been used for.. well.. ever?
[22:49] <Dr_willis> at least in ubuntu/gnome i think
[22:49] <rtcg> Long list indeed.  I need to figure out where to look.
[22:49] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: ;) i'd still consider pulse newish myself
[22:50] <Dr_willis> cant say ive really had many issues with pulse..
[22:53] <intel1> hey
[22:53] <intel1> i wanna make an a disk image
[22:53] <intel1> 2 save the ubuntu customization
[22:53] <intel1> and save time
[22:54] <intel1> i searched for clonezilla
[22:54] <intel1> but i didn't find it in the ubuntu software center
[22:54] <Dr_willis> we can read more then 4 words per line intel1 ...
[22:54] <Dr_willis> intel1,  theres a clonezilla live cd that you may want to use.
[22:54] <intel1> ya Dr_willis
[22:54] <intel1> you
[22:54] <intel1> can
[22:54] <intel1> not replacements ?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> Normally you dont 'clone/image' a in use system.
[22:55] <Dr_willis> You would use a live cd., and image  the system to some location.
[22:55] <Dr_willis> !find clonezilla
[22:56] <zykotick9> isn't clonezilla a livecd?
[22:57] <intel1> Dr_willis so should i burn clonezilla on cd
[22:57] <intel1> or can i do it with usb stick or ... ?
[22:58] <intel1> ??
[22:58] <Dr_willis> http://clonezilla.org/  has both ways..
[22:58] <flyinprogramer> alright, trying to build a linux router from an old computer i have, i've enabled ipv4_forwarding, setup dhcp, all of my clients get ip addresses, and can ping, dig, and run traceroutes, and yet none of them have "internet" meaning i go to load a website and i get http timeout errors -- i followed this guide: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/,   what am i doing wrong ?
[22:59] <flyinprogramer> or maybe there's a bug in the kernel ?
[22:59] <intel1> dr_willis : there is a program called norton ghost is it suitable ?
[22:59] <Dr_willis> intel1,  thats a comercial program for windows.. I havent used it in years.. and found it lacking.. and costly.
[22:59] <blackshirt> flynprogramer,what about dns?
[23:00] <intel1> haha  Dr_willis k so can i use it ?
[23:00] <Brent> I <3 Ubuntu.. Thought I would share. Carry on.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> 'i havent used it in years'  -> NO idea.
[23:00] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: well i can dig from the client, so doesn't that prove dns is working? i have all the machines set to you google's  8.8.8.8, and 8.8.4.4
[23:00] <intel1> k
[23:00] <Dr_willis> Why use it when theres the Free Clonezilla.
[23:00] <intel1> its make an image called XXX.ght
[23:01] <intel1> this is an a excutable image , this program can excute it on the driver u select
[23:01] <HoNgOuRu> I need help compiling and installing rt2870sta driver
[23:01] <HoNgOuRu> so please help
[23:01] <blackshirt> flynprogramer, what about (default) route on client?
[23:01] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: that could be a possibility - tell me more ?
[23:01] <blackshirt> Hong0uru,what the error?
[23:02] <blackshirt> flynprogrammer, is your client use your router as a default gateway?
[23:03] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt,  well, it al begun when I wanted to use the usb device in master mode... I had to blacklist rt2800usb driver but after that when I tried to modprobe rt2870sta I realised I didn't have it installed I downloaded it and run the make command, but it ends up with errors---
[23:04] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: in the dhcp config i have "option routers" set to the box that's internet facing, and i was trying to make the box a router, so i have my clients hooked up to a "smart" switch..
[23:04] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you should specific with the error
[23:04] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: it should be noted that when i put a router between the box and the cable modem, everything works fine -- which seems really weird to me...
[23:05] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, "error: struct task_struct dont have a member called fsuid...  fsgid suid fsgid
[23:05] <HoNgOuRu> one line per each
[23:05] <blackshirt> flynprogrammer, oh ... So the problem ?
[23:06] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you download a diiferent version for your kernel
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> so?
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> how do I fix this?
[23:06] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: well i was trying to understand why i need a router between the cable modem and server…
[23:07] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: because theoretically a unix box with two nics can do the same thing… except not because right now it's not working… so why
[23:07] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you should download the suite one, or use kernel that match
[23:07] <HoNgOuRu> my kernel... 3.2.0-24-generic
[23:07] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, maybe the modem is linked to the mac of your router
[23:07] <HoNgOuRu> is that ok ?
[23:08] <flyinprogramer> OerHeks: i've restarted the modem, and the box has internet, and the clients can ping, traceroute, and dig...
[23:08] <Dr_willis> OerHeks,  i recall wheni switched router/pc from my cable modem i HAD to power down/restart the cable modem for things to start working..
[23:08] <Dr_willis> OerHeks,  :) but that dosent seem to be his case i guess. from his last comment.
[23:08] <kion> I installed Nvidia 304.51 and after that my unity lauch bar is hidden but does not respoond to mouse , I can only show it with super key ????
[23:08] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, just checking, oke
[23:08] <Dr_willis> kion,  as a test, try making a new user, see if it works for them.
[23:08] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i don't know exactly, but the link you have download the driver should have information on this
[23:09] <flyinprogramer> OerHeks: np, i'm all ears because this one really has me spoofed… i'm tempted to install a window manager so i can use wireshark to maybe figure out what's going on.. i have iptraf running and can see the links getting established, but i'm too ignorant to understand what any of it really means in the UI provided
[23:10] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, play with your dns > gateway ip / provider IP / opendns or 8.8.4.4
[23:10] <rhizmoe> is it HP or Mozilla's fault that I can't just "print selection"?
[23:10] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, thank you
[23:11] <HoNgOuRu> I'll do my homework next time
[23:11] <blackshirt> hong0uru, good luck
[23:13] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, how do I install the latest stable kernel for ubuntu ?
[23:13] <Dr_willis> cant say ive noticed a 'print selection' feature in firefox.
[23:13] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[23:14] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis:  i think that's a feature of the print screen, pretty sure FFox supports "print selectoin"
[23:14] <blackshirt> !kernel | hong0uru
[23:14] <Anope> hi all
[23:14] <blackshirt> hi anope
[23:15] <Anope> i have a problem running my USB 3G modem
[23:15] <Anope> i have the 12.04 LTS
[23:15] <Anope> my modem is a Huawei E367
[23:16] <WeThePeople> ok i would like to delete windows from hdd and then reinstall it to hdd, what do i eed to look out for when doing this?
[23:16] <WeThePeople> i dual boot
[23:16] <WeThePeople> ubuntu
[23:17] <blackshirt> wethepeople, reinstall your windows?
[23:17] <kion> Dr_willis:I will
[23:17] <blackshirt> anope,okey,so what the problems?
[23:17] <WeThePeople> blackshirt, if halo worked on ubuntu.. forget windows
[23:17] <japro> hi, uh so what is the state of new nvidia laptops? i know there is some issue but google only comes up with articles about how angry linus is but nothing that clarifies the issue
[23:18] <Anope> the modem is switched correctly with usb_modeswitch , the problem with Network manager blackshirt
[23:18] <Anope> i trayed with Sakis 3G
[23:18] <Anope> same problem
[23:18] <blackshirt> wethepeople, halo?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> lol
[23:18] <blackshirt> anope, what about with wvdial?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> computer game
[23:19] <Anope> i wana try that blackshirt
[23:19] <Anope> thank you :)
[23:20] <Dr_willis> japro,  depends on the video chipset in them. The Optimus stuff is working for some systems via the 'bumblebee' tools.
[23:21] <Daghdha> is there any 'dock' for the workspaces? Or shortcut keys to quickly go ton one?
[23:21] <the56ker-MouSe> i need some help with wireless network adapter please
[23:21] <japro> what does "work" mean here? full features and performance or some funky open driver in pre alpha with opengl 1.1 support stuff? :d
[23:22] <japro> i kinda do graphics programming so that is relevant :D
[23:22] <rhizmoe> Daghdha: i'm sure you can bind f keys or whatever.
[23:22] <rhizmoe> there's probably a default, ctrl-alt-# or something
[23:23] <Daghdha> cursor keys it says here
[23:23] <WeThePeople> daghdha, iirc, CARIO.. GLX look for it in soft center
[23:23] <rhizmoe> unity?
[23:23] <Daghdha> yes
[23:24] <hanzu> hi -;
[23:24] <Daghdha> But i am in it trough VNC and my windows has that alt-ctrl-arrows already
[23:25] <Daghdha> looks like a mac
[23:25] <Guest40755> hi
[23:30] <p0rk> Running 12.04 server, just turned on server after coming home from work and it being off. After Grub, I get errors about mounting samba shares. Specifically 'mount: unknock filesystem type 'PATH'' where PATH is the actual path to the share, not a type at all. it should be a local loopback type.
[23:30] <p0rk> These shares worked fine for a few weeks since I initially set them up.
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> when i'm going to make a software update this message appears to me on screen
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> 'E:Type 'namon' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwendal-lebihan-dev-cinnamon-stable-precise.list'
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> how can  i solve this problem
[23:31] <p0rk> wiw
[23:31] <p0rk> wow
[23:31] <p0rk> i am a complete idiot
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> plz help needed here
[23:31] <p0rk> i just needed to hit S for skip, it was on the screen
[23:32] <Abdulrahman> no i mean i doesn't make any updates
[23:32] <blackshirt> abdulrahman, check your software sources
[23:32] <rhizmoe> manual boot bomb
[23:32] <the56ker-MouSe> help please when someone gets a chance thank you
[23:34] <blackshirt> abdulrahman, where do you come from?
[23:34] <Abdulrahman> EGYPT
[23:36] <rtcg> are there ANY other sound systems besides Pulse in Lucid that I can use?   The soundsystem is just so CHOPPY and static-y
[23:37] <the56ker-MouSe> i need wireless adapter help please
[23:38] <fh> Hey, I just updated my stable channel Google Chrome and the close, minimize and maximize buttons went to the right side. It is only on Chrome, other windows' buttons are still on the left side. Is this normal?
[23:38] <k4r1m> I tried evolution and I didn't like it so I removed it but I still keep getting a prompt for MAPI calendar.. how to do I get rid of it?
[23:39] <shihan> fh: yeah, when un-max'd they implement their own window frame
[23:40] <shihan> k4r1m, probabaly need to sudo apt-get purge evolution-mapi
[23:40] <fh> shihan, so it's going to stay on the right side forever?
[23:40] <k4r1m> shihan, not installed.
[23:41] <shihan> fh, if you go into chromes appearence settings you xan xhange it iirc
[23:41] <shihan> k4r1m, posibly evolution-exchange as well then
[23:42] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, describe your problem and someone might answer
[23:42] <k4r1m> shihan, nope
[23:42] <k4r1m> nvm found it, libecal
[23:42] <shihan> k4r1m, lol, how about libedata-cal?
[23:42] <shihan> ahhh
[23:45] <k4r1m> shihan, and evolution-common is still here :S
[23:45] <fh> Hmm, thanks for the answers shihan, but I'm unable to find that appearance setting that you're talking about, besides "Use system title bar and borders", which is not the one I'm looking for.
[23:46] <shihan> fh, afaik, thats the only options, if its not maximised it either uses its own frame with the buttons on the right, or if you choose system title bar... its on which ever side the default is for the appearence settings your using
[23:47] <fh> Yeah, I got what you're saying. Thanks again.
[23:47] <shihan> k4r1m, afaik, evolution-common is just a meta package anyways
[23:48] <k4r1m> shihan, hmm I'm still getting a prompt haha
[23:49] <shihan> k4r1m, dpkg -l |grep evolution might be worth looking at, it should be one of those packages i would guess
[23:50] <intel1> hey
[23:50] <intel1> Dr_willis : r u here ?
[23:50] <intel1> ?
[23:50] <gimpy38> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?
[23:51] <xxSn1p3rxx> hello... im looking into a fun DIY project to build a satellite dish wifi antenna to boost my usb wifi's range. I realise perhaps this is the wrong channel to ask.. but im having trouble finding good info on the net... if anyone has any ideas...I'd apreciate your help :-)
[23:51] <intel1> k anyway
[23:51] <japro> so what is the current status of amd graphics drivers?
[23:51] <shihan> xxSn1p3rxx, look around at cantenna, you might find some stuff linking from pages relating to that
[23:51] <the56ker-MouSe> i cant get wireless adapter to work says firmware missing so i was going through faq section trying everything i could find that dident seem like a waste of time and now my wireless adapter doesnt show up under network its a b43xx series on a hp laptop
[23:52] <xxSn1p3rxx> shihan: ahhh...cantenna! thats it! thanks!
[23:53] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[23:53] <xxSn1p3rxx> 56ker: i had the same problem with 12.04 before... you should disable the wired net adapter prior to installing ubuntu...
[23:54] <the56ker-MouSe> yeah theres no internet access on the latop shihan thats the problem im having i borrow my neighbors wireless ^_~
[23:56] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, what ubuntu version?
[23:56] <the56ker-MouSe> the latest 12.04lts
[23:58] <Zabel> yo
[23:59] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, i think this is the one you want.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/firmware-b43-installer/download grab it and dpkg -i (then cross fingers)
[23:59] <xxSn1p3rxx> hmmm.. where am i gona find a metal can with 12.5 cm diameter...