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elfyrecently lost update manager telling me there are updates available - also not seeing the "You need to restart to finish installing updates" message - until I happened to reboot - then it appeared08:12
elfynot sure if that's a bug or something to do with indicator-'things' changing08:13
ochosi_elfy: well you could start other applications that have their own indicators, i think the restart and update-man stuff all goes through the pkg indicator-application08:36
elfythe only thing I appear to have in indicators is the volume app - I'm all a bit confused about what used to be where, if it's coming back, when it's coming back - just appears to have appeared with no reason - so thought I'd mention it08:40
ochosi_what about nm-applet?08:42
ochosi_indicator or systray?08:42
elfyoooh - not got nm-applet it appears08:42
ochosi_wait, not at all?08:43
elfynope08:43
ochosi_that sounds bad08:43
ochosi_that's quantal with all updates?08:43
elfyyep08:43
ochosi_i guess in that case we have to look whether they changed anything in indicator-application08:44
ochosi_no, there are no recent changes i can see08:44
ochosi_i mean they changed the versioning scheme08:45
ochosi_maybe that breaks it...08:45
elfyk - maybe it was good I wandered by with a random statement then :)08:46
ochosi_i'll test in my vbox at work in a bit and then take a look08:47
ochosi_our indicator-application-gtk2 definitely still carries the old versioning scheme08:47
ochosi_so i guess i'd need to look at whether they also changed it for libindicator08:47
ochosi_strange, i mean those version-bumps happened all back in july08:48
ochosi_so they shouldn't have gone unnoticed08:48
ochosi_bbiab08:49
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ochosielfy: doesn't look like i can confirm the behavior you describe09:24
ochosionly missing 3 updates (which i'm installing now), which are unrelated09:24
elfymmm - ok, I'll try a clean install at some point this week with b2 and move stuff about :)09:25
elfyodd - but meh :)09:25
ochosioh well, it seems i got more updates coming09:26
ochosi(wrong mirror)09:26
ochosithere's even one related to dbusmenu09:26
ochosii'll see whether things are still as should-be after install/restart09:27
elfyI got a bunch of updates this morning09:27
ochosiand that broke it?09:28
elfyno - sure that the update notification has been gone longer - I rarely notice the nmapplet - so that could have snuck out with this latest update 09:28
elfybiab - rain has stopped - time to go for a wander09:29
ochosiotherwise please check whether you can downgrade any related packages that were recently upgraded09:30
ochosielfy: ok, even after the latest updates i can't confirm your problem09:36
elfyok - I'll assume I've broken something here then :p09:36
elfythanks ochosi for confirming 09:36
ochosielfy: wait, did you say "confirming"? :)09:47
knomeochosi, "confirming you can't confirm" ?09:50
ochosiwell yeah, it's just misleading to call that confirming :)09:51
knomebut it *is* a confirmation, whether the outcome was positive or negative09:52
elfyconfriming that I'be broken it somewhere :)09:52
ochosiknome: could you talk to folks@kubuntu when you're at UDS about how they got sponsoring? http://blogs.kde.org/2012/09/21/kubuntu-got-donations-kde-needs-donations12:31
ochosiknome: just since that seemed so illegal for us to do12:31
knomeochosi, nobody said illegal12:43
knomeochosi, we were not sure, we never really asked the legal dept12:43
knomebbl12:44
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* Guest74694 chirp chirp17:31
bluesabredarn, that failed17:31
bluesabre:)17:31
astraljavabluesabre's a cricket?17:43
bluesabreUntil my cricket became Guest7469417:43
astraljavaOccasionally guest star visitors make that bit of a difference in brining down the house.17:44
bluesabre:)17:48
bluesabreSo how are things, astraljava?17:49
astraljavaQuite diverse. I'm excited and saddened at the same time. I'm going to finally start hunting my dream, which is creating my own music.17:53
astraljavaAnd how about you?17:54
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pleia2xnox: haha, just saw bug 105576618:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1055766 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "grep -R doesn't automatically search amazon" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105576618:53
drc:)18:54
Unit193pleia2: Thanks, that report is going places!19:24
drclooks like the ubuntu root-guys sent it to the "round file in the corner of the office"19:25
genii-aroundHeh "being labeled a snark nearly made my monocle drop out!"19:28
Sysicompeting hard with "too sad icon" bug19:35
xnoxpleia2: sabdfl joined in on the fun, so I think it's all cool =)22:42
Unit193I really liked that one, yes.22:43
pleia2xnox: yeah :)22:44
ochositbh i'm a bit happy that we don't have to deal with huge decisions like that one in xubuntu22:47
ochosiso finally, there's an upside of not having enough contributors :p22:48
SkippersBossyeah but do we really want that upside hmm22:53

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