[09:35] <shadeslayer> I am sick, probably won't be around till Friday
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[10:18]  * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} ScottK
[10:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: haha
[10:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: rest well
[10:31] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: get well soon
[10:31] <shadeslayer> thx :)
[10:45] <Riddell> !testers
[10:45] <Riddell> beta 2 candidates for the testing
[10:46] <soee> is there something more than in my current updates ? :)
[10:49] <Riddell> soee: there's install images and precise -> quantal upgrades to test
[11:04] <yofel> upgrades went fine here yesterday
[11:04] <yofel> are the images usable now?
[11:04] <yofel> (i.e. is that dbus bug fixed?)
[11:05] <Riddell> yofel: yes
[11:05] <yofel> ok
[11:06] <Riddell> or worked around depending on your point of view
[11:08] <Riddell> oh but amd64 is oversized
[11:08] <Riddell> why does one language take up so much space?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:28] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you ask for flight bookings?
[13:08] <Riddell> balloons: no LVM install tests on desktop CDs?
[13:12] <yofel_> apachelogger: what happened to you wanting to update the lightdm theme background?
[13:13] <yofel_> if that's still possible
[13:16] <apachelogger> randa happened
[13:16] <yofel_> ah ok
[13:33] <ScottK> agateau: It would be really nice if you could keep track of what Cedric Bellegarde is doing on p-w-menubar so we can figure out what, if anything, we need to do in "R" to sync up with what he's doing upstream now that it's apparently going to be getting there.
[13:35] <agateau> ScottK: I gave him the maintenance of plasma-widget-menubar, so you can consider him the new upstream
[13:36] <ScottK> agateau: I know, but you know what we have already, so it'd be nice if we could get written down what work needs doing for us (not asking you to do the work, just help us figure out what it is).
[13:37] <ScottK> I don't know how much he knows about the distro changes we have.
[13:37] <agateau> ScottK: which distro changes are you referring to?
[13:38] <ScottK> We had a patched Qt.  I guess we don't anymore?  
[13:38] <agateau> no, the patch has been upstreamed
[13:39] <agateau> i think the only remaining patch I made which has not been upstreamed is the one for sni-qt
[13:39] <ScottK> Once p-w-menbuar is in KDE proper we need to upstream the plasma-netbook layout, but that's a separate issue.
[13:39] <ScottK> And sni-qt is unrelated to p-w-menubar.
[13:39] <ScottK> I guess maybe what we have to do is "nothing".
[13:40] <agateau> I think so
[13:40] <ScottK> Does libdbusmenu-qt go away at some point?
[13:41] <ScottK> I'm reading his last post on kde-core-devel and it seems like there are some dependency changes at least.
[13:43] <agateau> I don't think it is going away, but maybe I haven't read this post
[13:43]  * agateau checks mail
[13:44] <agateau> oh
[13:44] <agateau> GMenuModel is indeed a replacement for libdbusmenu
[13:45] <agateau> I thought this plan had been trashed, but it seems it has not
[13:45] <ScottK> Is that a joint Gnome/Canonical implementation or another Canonical only one?
[13:45] <agateau> so yes, when this lands libdbusmenu-qt will probably go away
[13:46] <agateau> It has been done by Ryan Lortie, depends only on glib and is hosted in glib git repos, so I'd say joint
[13:46] <agateau> for a change :)
[13:46] <ScottK> OK.  That's progress.
[13:46] <ScottK> The message indicator is now unmaintained, right?
[13:59] <agateau> right
[14:00] <agateau> I am still officially the maintainer, but I am not working on it :/
[14:01] <balloons> Riddell, how's the kubuntu cases coming? the lvm and encryption stuff should be integrated today
[14:12] <francisco_t> Hello, Can anyone tell me what is the progress on this bug.  I am a designer and want to use Krita with the new kubuntu . I know they were working on a solution but dont know if they will be able to fix it for 12.10 release. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307322
[14:24] <Riddell> balloons: well I posted the desktop images and kubuntu active, I didn't bother with the alternates since I hope we can stop caring about them now
[14:25] <Riddell> francisco_t: new one to me.  what version of kubuntu is it?
[14:25] <balloons> Riddell, yes, up to your flavor of course :-) For ubuntu, they are retited
[14:25] <balloons> *retired
[14:25] <balloons> however, there are some migrated cases for them if desired
[14:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: you're flying from berlin?
[14:28] <francisco_t> Riddell: the bug is in quantal beta 1. Here is the other bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306479
[14:31] <Riddell> francisco_t: works fine for me, have you done a dist-upgrade recently?
[14:32] <yofel> that has llvm in it's backtrace, maybe you need unity in kvm to test?
[14:33] <Riddell> hmm unity?
[14:34] <Riddell> francisco_t: are you using unity?
[14:35] <yofel> not sure, just wondering why llvm would matter for us
[14:35] <Riddell> openctl as used in krita uses it
[14:35] <Riddell> or opengtl
[14:36] <francisco_t> Riddell: Im not using unity. My last update was 19-9-2012... I will try to update now
[14:59] <Riddell> francisco_t: fancy reporting a bug on launchpad?
[15:05] <Riddell> anyone object to stopping the alternate CDs?
[15:08] <ScottK> Did we get good tests on the live CDs?
[15:12] <francisco_t> Riddell: Ok
[15:14] <Riddell> ScottK: well I have but I never trust my own testing
[15:15] <ScottK> Maybe I can do some testing tonight or tomorrow.
[15:15] <ScottK> I'd like to be really confident before we stop the alternates.  I don't object to not testing them or not releasing them with the beta though.
[15:15] <Riddell> yeah sensible
[15:35] <francisco_t> Riddell: the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/+bug/1056946
[17:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: I do not think I've got a response yet
[17:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: Though I haven't been able to check mail, unpacking stuff since I moved
[17:10] <Riddell> Quintasan: you have
[17:10] <Riddell> Quintasan: flying from berlin tegal
[17:10] <Riddell> which seemed curious
[17:10] <Quintasan> Makes sense.
[17:11] <Quintasan> Riddell: Where I live (Lubin) it's closer to go to Wroclaw or Berlin to the airport
[17:11] <Quintasan> That said I moved to Wroclaw for uni and there is an airport here.
[17:12] <Riddell> Quintasan: seems close enough to make it possible to just get a train
[17:13] <Quintasan> train to where?
[17:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: to copenhagen
[17:13] <Quintasan> hue
[17:13] <Quintasan> That would
[17:13] <Quintasan> be
[17:13] <Quintasan> well
[17:13] <Riddell> I'm just guessing but it's what I'd look into
[17:16] <Quintasan> Riddell: I forgot to ask, travel and accomodation and food is covered or I need to take care of food by myself?
[17:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: same per diem as canonical gives I'd say
[17:32] <Riddell> although i'm yet to work out how to get it to you
[17:36] <xnox> Riddell: I looked at trains to copenhagen from london. The trains were twice more expensive than easyJet
[17:37] <xnox> (budget airline in Europe)
[17:37] <xnox> and a hell of a lot quicker =)
[17:39] <Riddell> xnox: yeah, less practical from Edinburgh
[18:11] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1056494] libqt4-network should have libssl in its depends list @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1056494 (by Marco Cimmino)
[21:19] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [744812] FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bo... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/744812 (by Francois Thirioux)
[22:59] <sladen> ScottK et al.  re: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,35591   Upstream are happy to take the patch (with the comments moved into the commit log, and #if/#else removed)
[23:01] <sladen> ScottK: at what point does that pass the "upstream" requirement for Kubuntu patches;  This would be against 5.0 upstream