[00:13] <poochie> hi
[00:32] <superdreamkilla> I've been using konqueror for a while, and today it starting saying "The requested operation could not be completed" on every page I attempt to open. If I click the reload button, then the page will be displayed. What's going on?
[00:35] <vonkleist_> what version of kde are you using?
[00:35] <vonkleist_> better... what version of kubuntu are you using?
[00:36] <superdreamkilla> 4.3.2
[00:36] <superdreamkilla> for kde
[00:37] <superdreamkilla> 9.10 for kubuntu
[00:39] <superdreamkilla> I attempted to do apt-get dist-upgrade, but for each file it attempts to download, I get a 404 error
[00:41] <superdreamkilla> if I attempt the upgrade through the package manager, I get an exit with code 127
[00:48] <EvilRoey> hey all
[00:48] <EvilRoey> question:  I have music on my server.  I am on my laptop and I wish to stream music from it and play or even control it through Amarok on my laptop.  What software do I use to accomplish this?
[00:49] <vonkleist_> I think 9.10 is out of support
[00:50] <superdreamkilla> what should I do?
[00:50] <vonkleist_> try running do-release-upgrade
[00:51] <vonkleist_> if works, it'll take you to 12.04
[00:52] <superdreamkilla> i think it will just give me the 404 error, couldn't download files
[00:52] <superdreamkilla> i'll try
[00:57] <vonkleist_> The 404 error maybe is because there's no more karmic on repositories
[00:57] <vonkleist_> do-release-upgrade should take you to the latest version, no matter which one is it
[00:57] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | superdreamkilla
[00:58] <vonkleist_> cool
[00:58] <vonkleist_> thanx bazhang
[00:59] <superdreamkilla> that makes sense for the 404, but I was thinking I could have had some weird error in my internet config, since I had the browser error
[01:00] <superdreamkilla> do-release-upgrade is working so far
[01:01] <vonkleist_> oh, good
[01:01] <superdreamkilla> yes, thank you
[01:02] <vonkleist_> maybe you could try running konqueror inside a command line, and see if it shows something else
[01:04] <MySystem1> a question if i have 2 partitions with same uid (a clone) and i set the hidden flag for the ones which i don't want to be mounted is this enough?
[01:04] <MySystem1> dont want to try because its / and /home
[01:08] <vonkleist_> MySystem1, if you don't want a partition to be mounted at boot time, just disable it from /etc/fstab
[01:10] <MySystem1> thats the problem i want that it is mounted (i need / and /home) but i dont want both partitions (the clone) to be mounted and in fstab is the mount option with uid and dont want to mount via /dev/sdxx
[01:11] <vonkleist_> Oh, got it
[01:12] <MySystem1> my idea was the hidden flag for partitions
[01:12] <MySystem1> but is this enough because if i restat and mount dont know what to mount i dont have a / or /home so no boot
[01:14] <MySystem1> if it helps my fstab http://pastebin.com/1a5n5EAx
[01:21] <MySystem1> ok i will have a try if it dont works i remove the clone hd and first find a solution
[01:25] <c2tarun> my idle laptop screen is going black in just 35 seconds :( I disabled it from every where.
[01:25] <c2tarun> Any suggestion :(
[01:47] <MySystem> ok it seems to work all partitions i wanted are mounted the only strange thing is that i see the clone partitions in dolphin but this isnt a problem
[01:49] <c2tarun> MySystem: clone partition?
[01:54] <MySystem> yes i cloned 2 partitions to another hd because of possible errors but then i get that this was the wrong hd and now i have the orginal partitions and the clones with same uid and fstab mount is via uid so i flagged the clone as hidden but dolphin sees the hidden partitions but my kubuntu starts and mounts the rhigt partitions from the org hd
[01:58] <MySystem> so how do mount or the prog that interprets fstab figure out which uid is the right
[02:06] <vonkleist_> MySystem, why don't you try changing the UUID por the new partition?
[02:07] <MySystem> one reason for because if the old 80gb org sys hd crash i only have to reinstall grub and nothing else but realy this isnt't such important so how do i change a uid
[02:08] <vonkleist_> http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/948-change-uuid-ext3-partition.html
[02:11] <MySystem> ok very nice and easy
[02:14] <MySystem> think i have to run the cmd as root but in kubuntu i dont have a real root user so i cant su at which places do i need to add the sudo (dont know all comands of this line:"uuidgen | xargs tune2fs /dev/hdaX -U ; vol_id /dev/hdaX")
[02:25] <MySystem> ok my fault it works with "uuidgen | sudo xargs tune2fs /dev/sdd4 -U ; sudo vol_id /dev/sdd4" the only prob was i tried sdd1 which is a ntfs
[02:29] <MySystem> very nice know there are no conflicts and all working right lot of thx for this
[02:30] <MySystem> another complete different question i want to mute and unmute line-in from soundcard via console is there a way that i can use in a script
[02:33] <vonkleist_> try amixer
[02:36] <MySystem> this could work what a nice prog there a values i have never read
[02:41] <vonkleist_> ok, got to go
[02:41] <vonkleist_> c u
[02:48] <megamanx1978> I cannot play my humble bundle games can somone please help?
[03:08] <MySystem> for today its enough lots of thx to all helpers and good night
[03:56] <c2tarun> my KDE screen is turning off in 35 seconds, can anyone please help me with that?
[03:57] <loli_stoner> try running "xset -dpms"
[04:00] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: are you saying to me?
[04:00] <loli_stoner> ya
[04:00] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: what does xset do?
[04:00] <loli_stoner> that command will disable dpms energy star
[04:00] <loli_stoner> you can see what your current settings are by running "xset -q"
[04:01] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: did that lets wait :(
[04:01] <loli_stoner> k
[04:02] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: it seems it worked :) thanks a lot, what is dpms by the way
[04:03] <loli_stoner> it's energy star
[04:03] <loli_stoner> basically you have your computer set to go into energy saving mode every 35 seconds
[04:03] <c2tarun> ohh....
[04:03] <loli_stoner> i had the same problem randomly once although for me it turned off exactly every 3 seconds
[04:04] <c2tarun> 3 seconds :) lolz... its like litrellay continuously moving mouse
[04:05] <loli_stoner> ya
[05:22] <Daskreech> 3 seconds?
[05:22] <loli_stoner> what?
[05:23] <Daskreech> It turned off in 3 seconds?
[05:23] <loli_stoner> oh my computer?
[05:23] <loli_stoner> yeah it use to be that the screen would turn off every 3 seconds
[05:49] <jonhaller> Can anyone help me with understanding some of these configuration values for this STA driver source file?
[05:54] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: hey, my dpsm is getting enabled automatically.. any advice?
[05:54] <loli_stoner> oh
[05:55] <loli_stoner> um...  maybe put a startup script in .kde/Autostart that runs "xset -dpms"?
[05:55] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: I didn't restart my machine since morning. here is my xset -q output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1227956/
[05:56] <c2tarun> what does this line "Standby: 33    Suspend: 49    Off: 66" means?
[05:57] <loli_stoner> how long to wait before doing that
[05:57] <loli_stoner> mien is Standby: 21600    Suspend: 32400    Off: 43200
[05:57] <loli_stoner> *mine
[05:57] <c2tarun> you mean off:66 is to turn off monitor in 66sec?
[05:57] <loli_stoner> i guess
[05:58] <loli_stoner> try running "xset dpms 21600 32400 43200" to get it to the same settings as mine
[05:59] <c2tarun> done :( no luck, sorry I have to leave for work, I'll try to look and man page there might be some place for configuration.
[05:59] <c2tarun> anyway, thanks a lot :)
[05:59] <loli_stoner> ok
[06:55] <mah454> Hello
[06:56] <mah454> How can login in new window in Kubuntu ? (like gnome) with Xnest
[06:57] <mah454_> can do this in kubuntu ?
[07:35] <Lynoure> mah454: (Disclaimer: I'm quite ill and as the result most of my brain is sleeping) This might answer your question: http://techbase.kde.org/Archive:Getting_Started/Run/Nested_Session
[09:35] <Mailman> Is there any way to get the application launcher to open with the meta key? I can only get it to recognize it as a modifier.
[09:36] <shadeslayer> Mailman: just the meta key ? I don't think so
[09:40] <tcberner> Hi there. I updated php by mistake to 5.4.6 --  is there a way to go back to 5.3.10?
[09:42] <Mailman> Is there a way to replicate Unity's Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Arrow Keys to move windows from one desktop to another?
[09:44] <hateball> there should be a hotkey setting for that
[09:46] <hateball> Mailman: it's in global hotkey settings for kwin
[09:46] <hateball> unbound by default
[09:46] <hateball> and also you cant use meta as anything but modifier key (at least not by default)
[09:50] <shadeslayer> tcberner: maybe, you could do : sudo apt-get install foo=bar
[09:50] <shadeslayer> foo is the package name, bar is the version
[09:52] <tcberner> shadeslayer: unfortunatley there is only one version as it seems
[09:59] <tcberner> yeah, found 5.3.17 :)
[10:09] <shadeslayer> tcberner: best to pin the packages once you're satisfied
[11:04] <Cormann> hello all having a bit of a problem with desktop 12.04 LTS of Kubuntu. It boots but will not load x I look thru the log file and it seems to be having some sort of a problem with my nvidia video card. anyone know an easy answer?
[11:05] <Cormann> I'm currently downloading the ubuntu desktop same version to see if the problem is with KDE or something else
[11:06] <lordievader> Cormann: Have you installed the driver for your card?
[11:07] <Cormann> I am running the desktop CD boot and run or so it says
[11:07] <Cormann> It boots, I get the start screen then it errors out to the cli for kbuntu
[11:07] <lordievader> Cormann: You haven't installed it yet?
[11:07] <Cormann> No I am trying it out to see if I want to load it for dual boot or not
[11:08] <lordievader> Cormann: I see, what nVidia card do you have?
[11:09] <Cormann> gforce gt 426m its a laptop
[11:09] <Cormann> in the log it says it can not find the moduel nvidia then further down it says can not find the moduel nv and it tries to load the vesa module
[11:10] <lordievader> Cormann: It could be that your card is not supported by the default driver...
[11:10] <Cormann> wish I could pastebin the log for you, however I am on the laptop now and no way to send it when its booted to the cli and no conf to run anything
[11:10] <Cormann> very possibly
[11:11] <Cormann> however most if not all nvidia chipsets will work in vesa mode
[11:11] <Cormann> even at lower rez I could at least see if it will run on this machine
[11:11] <Cormann> tweeks can come later of course
[11:12] <lordievader> Cormann: I agree it should work.
[11:13] <Cormann> one would think so guess we shall see when I burn the ubuntu disk if I have the same issue, then its off to ubuntu forums hahah Thank you for your help however
[11:14] <Cormann> kubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso is the file I am using
[11:14] <lordievader> Cormann: No problem, hope you resolve your problem.
[11:14] <Cormann> the ubuntu one is 12.04.1 is that different?
[11:14] <Cormann> always a challenge, figure it out lol
[11:15] <lordievader> Cormann: There is no kubuntu 12.04.1?
[11:15] <lordievader> Cormann: If not you can update to 12.04.1
[11:16] <Cormann> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso downloading it right now
[11:29] <Solak> Hello.
[11:31] <Cormann> lordievader Confirming 12.04 Install Image Fails to Boot on Nvidia Card
[11:32] <Solak> Cormann: oh, geforce gtx 550ti?
[11:32] <lordievader> Cormann: That is not good to hear...
[11:32] <lordievader> Hey Solak, how are you?
[11:33]  * Solak was about to install kubuntu 12.04 on a system with that card...
[11:33] <Cormann> well I am reading the thread I'll let you know if there is an answer
[11:33] <Cormann> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970682&highlight=desktop+cd+fails+with+nvidia+card
[11:34] <lordievader> Solak: Cormann has a different card, "gforce gt 426m"
[11:34] <Cormann> it looks like the installer recognizes the Nvidia card, then tries to load the open source Nouveau driver, and everything crashes
[11:34] <Solak> lordievader: oh. hmm.
[11:34] <lordievader> How nice.
[11:35] <Solak> lordievader: anyway, I first have to get a bootable cd :-)
[11:35] <Solak> lordievader: macos x complains that the .iso (64bit) is unmountable.
[11:35] <Cormann> I believe the plan is to release kernel updates 3 weeks after 12.04's release, which would be in mid-May.
[11:36] <lordievader> Solak: I'm sorry I don't have any experience with Mac's.
[11:36] <Cormann> This was posted in May, so perhaps the 12.04.1 is the fix? Will have to see, there is a work around if your installing it
[11:41] <Solak> I could try windows and create a new dvd.
[11:50] <arian-pc> hello I installed kde-full on ubuntu 12.04.0.1  but the menu of athe gtk programms (like firefox ) are like windows 98 :)  I have this bug on only gtk programms only on kde 4.9.1  . what i can do?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:30] <Solak> hmm, 'start kubuntu' doesn't start, it ends with a blank screen and a flashing cursor (textmode) in the left upper corner...
[12:31] <pkt> does e.g., ubuntu desktop start?
[12:31] <Solak> no.
[12:32] <Solak> well, I have the KUbuntu amd64 install iso and I see the opening screen.
[12:32] <pkt> I mean did you also try the ubuntu flavor?
[12:32] <pkt> or xubuntu or anything else
[12:32] <lordievader> Solak: Are you still in the installing phase?
[12:33] <pkt> in order to know whether it is KDE that is causing your problem or e.g., a bad graphics card
[12:34] <Solak> lordievader: in the start installing phase (had other things to do in the meantime, like lunch ;)).
[12:35] <Solak> lordievader: I have the iso on dvd now, the dvd starts, but 'start kubuntu' ends like I just said...
[12:35] <lordievader> Solak: So where are you exactly?
[12:35] <pkt> It looks like the X server doesn't load
[12:35] <lordievader> Solak: Hitting escape doesn't show you that it is loading things?
[12:35] <pkt> if you end up in text mode with something blinking
[12:36] <Solak> yes, I remember when I joined the channel something about nvidia, and yes, it's a geforce gtx 550ti
[12:36] <lordievader> Solak: Before jumping to conclusions, have you verified the dvd/cd?
[12:37] <Solak> lordievader: macos x verified it, and I don't see how that would break of startup halfway.
[12:38] <Solak> pkt: no, only kubuntu...
[12:39] <lordievader> Solak: Macos x? What I more ment, have you tried it in another machine to see if that one does go past Grub.
[12:40] <pkt> Solak: I would try latest daily live of kubuntu quantal or if that doesn't work, the latest Fedora beta
[12:40] <pkt> (because of newer kernels)
[12:40] <Solak> lordievader: no, except for the macbook pro I don't have any other 64bit machines here. Looks like grub passes, the dvd-activity is quite a while before it stops.
[12:40] <pkt> when you get one to work, it is easy to backport the differences
[12:41] <pkt> if you can't get any livecd to boot all the way to X then be prepared for quite some work
[12:42] <pkt> (or waiting until somebody else does this work for you)
[12:42] <Solak> I could try debian stable .iso (64bits)...
[12:43] <lordievader> Solak: Hold on, I'm asking someone about the alternate live-cd, that might help you.
[12:45] <pkt> the alternate cd can indeed help you do the install if this is your goal
[12:46] <lordievader> Solak: This is what BluesKaj said: yes the alternate live cd is text based but also recognizes hardware that the regular cd doesn't. So check that out first.
[12:46] <pkt> The relevant is that it is text mode
[12:46] <lordievader> Agreed.
[12:46] <pkt> but I thought you were evaluating if Linux will work well in your hardware
[12:47] <lordievader> Solak: Are you?
[12:47] <Solak> yes, and someone told me to hook up the mainboard gfx-card as well...
[12:47] <pkt> yes
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Solak, you sound fairly experienced . so the alternate cd is a good choice
[12:48] <pkt> usually that card would be some form of intel
[12:48] <pkt> so it should work
[12:48] <Solak> pkt: no, I just want to install it... I use linux over 10 years now, so I know what to expect :-)
[12:48] <pkt> ah ok then
[12:48] <pkt> by all means use the alternate cd :)
[12:49] <pkt> It will get the job done
[12:49] <Solak> first debian, later kubuntu...
[12:49] <lordievader> Solak: Hehe.
[12:49] <pkt> Solak: alternate cd is debian installer
[12:49] <pkt> so I 'm sure you are pretty familiar with this interface :)
[12:49] <lordievader> Solak: Debian offers the text-mode on their default cd.
[12:50] <Solak> hmmm. why doesn't have the normal installer a text-mode? :)
[12:50] <pkt> the "normal installer" is not really an installer so to speak
[12:50] <pkt> it copies the livecd wholesale
[12:50] <pkt> and then removes some stuff
[12:50] <Solak> ah, it is a livecd which also does install if really necessary? :)
[12:50] <pkt> yes
[12:51] <pkt> the alternate cd is like the debian install cds
[12:51] <pkt> the desktop cd is live
[12:51] <Solak> would it fit on a cd?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yes, very similar
[12:51] <pkt> Solak: it is like the first debian install cd
[12:51] <pkt> not the whole archive of course :)
[12:51] <Solak> no :)
[12:56] <Solak> but there are geforce proprietary drivers, so if I have textmode first it should not be too hard to get it working...
[12:56] <pkt> if the proprietary drivers work for you then yes, no problem
[12:58] <pkt> so just get the alternate cd and give it a try then :)
[12:58] <Solak> pkt: it would not be first choice to use proprietary drivers, but I get the idea things don't work optimal without them.
[12:59]  * Solak remembers that the image was quite fuzzy on his old system without proprietary drivers (that was ATI X800 card)
[13:01] <pkt> these days radeon has improved a lot
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Solak, the nvidia-current drivers are the best choice for geforce cards on 12.04 and 12.10
[13:01] <Solak> the open source drivers?
[13:02] <Solak> BluesKaj: open or proprietary?
[13:02] <pkt> Solak: no, opensource ones are called nouveau
[13:02] <BluesKaj> all nvidia are proprietary
[13:02] <pkt> nvidia is usually referring to the proprietary driver
[13:03] <Solak> ok.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> but the proprietary additional drivers listed in jockey don't always work
[13:03] <pkt> These days I like radeon / intel more
[13:04] <pkt> I only use my nvidia machine for gpgpu stuff and for virtualized 3D with vmware
[13:04] <BluesKaj> why the nvidia-current driver isn't listed there is a mystery to to me
[13:07] <BluesKaj> it may have to do with nomenclature , the reasoning escapes me , however
[13:10] <Peace-> hi mates :D
[13:11] <lordievader> Hey Peace-, how are you?
[13:11] <Peace-> great lordievader
[13:12]  * Peace- works on kate snippets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9
[13:14] <lordievader> Peace-: Video doesn't exist...
[13:15] <Peace-> lol
[13:15] <Peace-> lordievader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9n8
[13:38] <Solak> alternate cd works, at least textmode :)
[13:38] <Solak> hmm, 104.9Mb B ntfs / 75.5Gb ntfs / 52.4Gb Free
[13:38] <Solak> the 1st one is something unkown from windows 7...
[13:56] <lordievader> Solak: It is necessary to use Windows 7, do not delete that partition.
[14:18] <Solak> lordievader: yes, I just added 3 partitions.
[14:18] <lordievader> Solak: Ok, no problem then.
[14:18] <Solak> lordievader: only thing is that 'B' is now for the / partition of linux, and not that system partition of windows.
[14:19] <lordievader> Solak: I'm sorry do you mean sdb?
[14:20] <Solak> no, 'B' as in the boot-flag.
[14:20] <lordievader> Solak: Ah, I have a feeling that is normal. Grub is on /. Or so I would think, I'm no expert on Grub...
[14:25] <Solak> hmm, how do I unmark a partition for formatting?
[14:30] <pkt> Solak: you mean in the installer? probably you press "space" on it
[14:31] <Solak> pkt: manual partitioning in the installer. space doesn't work.
[14:34] <pkt> unfortunately I don't have an alternate cd here to verify
[14:35] <pkt> my memory tells that you use space to check/uncheck checkboxes in the text interface
[14:35] <pkt> but you could be looking at something different
[14:37] <Solak> pkt: <space> selects
[14:38] <Solak> pkt: but that seems to do nothing, <enter> however selects and goes to a new screen.
[14:38] <pkt> Ah, so you hadn't selected the partition
[14:39] <pkt> yes, first you select and you go to a screen where it tells you what do you want to do with the partition IIRC
[14:39] <pkt> i.e., do you want it to be swap / to format it and mount it somewhere etc etc
[14:39] <pkt> in that screen I think there are checkboxes you can use <space> on
[14:40] <pkt> still this is all from memory, I don't have it in front of me :)
[14:47] <MySystem> hello is there a way in kubuntu to run a cmd as root if sudo doesnt work tried su but without a set root password no chance
[14:48] <pkt> you can set a root password if it is really required
[14:48] <pkt> sudo passwd root
[14:48] <pkt> but can't you do what you want with something like kdesudo?
[14:50] <MySystem> the workaround with sudo passwd root is an idea but kdesudo sounds better will try this
[14:50] <pkt> MySystem: you can also do sudo -s
[14:51] <pkt> this will give you a root shell
[14:51] <pkt> hopefully this way there won't be any need for enabling the root account
[14:52] <genii-around> !root
[14:53] <lordievader> Hehe, nice comment ubottu.
[14:53] <thelionroars> sudo make me a sandwich
[14:54] <genii-around> thelionroars: You've been watching xkcd too long ;-)
[14:54] <thelionroars> you know it ;)
[14:54] <lordievader> Xkcd is great :)
[14:58] <MySystem> kdesudo works perfekt
[14:59] <pkt> great :)
[14:59] <pkt> In Linux there are always so many ways to solve a problem :)
[15:00] <Solak> hmm, grey screen and nothing at boot.
[15:00] <Solak> but that was to be expected...
[15:00] <pkt> yes, you should go to text mode
[15:01] <MySystem> yes pkt this is one of the reasons why i love it
[15:01] <Solak> nvidia-common is installed, so is libkwinactivenvidiahack4
[15:01] <pkt> (recovery mode)
[15:01] <pkt> and see what is happening there
[15:02] <pkt> anyway I have to go now
[15:02] <pkt> see you :)
[16:46] <Riddell> beta 2 candidate image testers needed, join us in #kubuntu-devel
[16:55] <stefano_> ciao a tutti
[17:01] <Daskreech> !it
[17:13] <Solak> BluesKaj: ping?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Solak, yes ?
[17:19] <Solak> BluesKaj: I found the nvidia-current drivers you mentioned earlier, but I wonder what I'm missing: it works, but only at 1024x768 (monitor is 1920x1080).
[17:19] <Solak> BluesKaj: do you have an idea what that could be?
[17:20] <Solak> except for that, and the fact that the mouse hides while moving, everything works good.
[17:20] <Solak> I expected more trouble, even to get X working at all.
[17:22] <Daskreech> What video card?
[17:23] <Solak> Daskreech: nVidia Geforce gtx 550 ti.
[17:23] <Daskreech> Hm didn't know there were issues with that
[17:28] <genii-around> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[17:28] <Solak> ah, I see two proprietary drivers in 'additional drivers'.
[17:31] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:31] <Solak> genii-around: thanks!
[17:31] <Solak> re lordievader
[17:32] <lordievader> Hey Solak, how is it going with your Linux adventure?
[17:33] <Solak> works better than expected, I only have to set the right resolution, mouse is sometimes invisible, and additional drivers fail to install.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Solak, install the nvidia-current driver , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then reboot..the addtional drivers may not work
[17:39] <BluesKaj> ok ..gotta go for a while
[17:39] <c2tarun> hey, anyone done packet sniffing on kubuntu?
[17:40] <lordievader> c2tarun: You can do packet sniffing on almost any system. Wireshark is multi-platform.
[17:40] <c2tarun> I have three machines, all are connected to a wi-fi router. Is there anyway I can sniff all the packets going in and out from computer 2 from my laptop?
[17:41] <lordievader> c2tarun: If your wifi card from the laptop supports promiscious mode, then yes.
[17:42] <c2tarun> lordievader: I think I can sniff packets only if my lappy is server and all other PC's are accessing internet from my PC (I may be wrong I am a noob)
[17:43] <c2tarun> lordievader: and how can I check whether my wifi card supports promiscious mode or not?
[17:43] <lordievader> c2tarun: Nope, that is the beauty of wifi, you get all of the packages. Your NIC just disgards most of them.
[17:43] <lordievader> c2tarun: Google? Or simply try it.
[17:44] <c2tarun> lordievader: thanks :) installing wireshark now.
[17:45] <lordievader> c2tarun: You also need ettercap.
[17:46]  * c2tarun googling about ettercap
[17:46] <c2tarun> lordievader: BTW why do I need ettercap, is wireshark not enough?
[17:47] <lordievader> c2tarun: If you want to see the traffic of the other machines, no.
[17:47] <c2tarun> lordievader: then what can wireshark do?
[17:47] <lordievader> c2tarun: Sniff packages.
[17:48] <c2tarun> lordievader: so are you saying we can sniff something but to see them I need some other tool as well? its like I sniffed a lock but I dont have the key!!
[17:48] <lordievader> c2tarun: If you have the time I suggest watching a few Hak5 podcasts, they regularely discuss the topic: hak5.org
[17:49] <c2tarun> lordievader: I have been there, but couldn't find a post on packet sniffing. :(
[17:49] <c2tarun> going to look again
[17:49] <c2tarun> lordievader: if you have a bookmark, can you please share/
[17:49] <lordievader> c2tarun: Your NIC gets all the packages, however it discards anything that is not ment for that NIC. Wireshark does not see the discarded packages.
[17:50] <lordievader> c2tarun: I'll look some up.
[17:52] <lordievader> c2tarun: Haktip - ARP Cache, Haktip 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23. http://hak5.org/category/episodes/haktip/page/2
[17:53] <c2tarun> lordievader: wow thanks a lot :)
[17:55] <lordievader> c2tarun: No problem, have fun.
[18:06] <thelionroars> <3 hak5
[18:17] <dark133> hallo))
[18:19] <lordievader> Hey dark133, how are you?
[18:20] <dark133> im fine... where are you from?
[18:20] <lordievader> dark133: I'd rather not say... if you really want to know you'll find a way, I'm sure.
[18:21] <dark133> фак я не спикаю по инглишу))
[18:23] <dark133> about what way speech?
[18:23] <lordievader> dark133: I'm sorry, what?
[18:25] <dark133> i`m don`t speak english)) mfk//
[18:26] <lordievader> dark133: Where are you from, there are quite a few localized kubuntu channels.
[18:26] <dark133> russia
[18:26] <lordievader> !ru | dark133
[18:27] <dark133> thanks)
[18:27] <jacob__> hello irc, I'm running kubuntu 12.04 (kde 4.8.5) and my mimetypes are messed up. I can't get dolphin to open an svg in inkscape despite what it says in the KEditFileType menu. Is there a quick solution to this?
[18:46] <valentin> HI YO WUT UP
[18:46] <valentin> Hi lordievader :)
[18:47] <lordievader> Hey valentin, you are happy!
[18:47] <valentin> lordievader : Indeed !
[18:47] <lordievader> valentin: How come?
[18:47] <valentin> lol
[18:47] <valentin> I just got my minecraft server set properly
[18:48] <lordievader> valentin: A house mate asked me about that recently... he did it on Windows though.
[18:48] <valentin> lordievader : What did he ask you about ?
[18:48] <lordievader> valentin: About a minecraft server.
[18:49] <valentin> lordievader : + It's rather bad to host a MC server (even all servers) on Windows, imo
[18:49] <valentin> lordievader : Yes but what ? xD
[18:49] <lordievader> valentin: He wanted to host one for a couple of friends, he asked if he should install Linux for it...
[18:50] <lordievader> valentin: Why do you think so?
[18:50] <valentin> lordievader : I see, I was just wondering if he was looking for a server to play on.
[18:51] <valentin> lordievader : I used to host on Windows, I wrote a launcher (cmd one) and it kept failing, it didn't work properly with Java env.
[18:51] <valentin> lordievader : Nothing better than using a good Minecraft.sh :D
[18:52] <lordievader> valentin: Anyhow, have fun with your server.
[18:53] <valentin> lordievader : Thanks, do you play it ?
[18:55] <lordievader> valentin: No. I got better things to do.
[18:56] <lordievader> valentin: :P
[18:56] <valentin> lordievader : better things... :P
[18:56] <valentin> lordievader : Well w.e people may say about minecraft, it still is an awesome game if you know some technics :)
[18:57] <valentin> lordievader : I and some friends added ComputerCraft, it's a programming mod (For example, you can code a password for a door using a virtual machine)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> new wireless keyboard and mouse in the system , plug 'n  play ..works right from the get go :)
[18:58] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Nice!
[19:00] <BluesKaj> lordievader, Microsoft wireless desktop 2000 , for 30 bucks , saved 20 ...even the vol ctrls work :)
[19:00] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Kind of ironic :P
[19:01] <BluesKaj> yeah
[19:01] <BluesKaj> my other wireless KB is also MS , worked well for 3yrs
[19:02] <BluesKaj> the mouse broke but the KB is fine , gonna put ti omn wife's pc
[19:03] <BluesKaj> have to check it out on W7 ..BBL
[19:15] <valentin> Y U NO SPEAL
[19:15] <valentin> SPEAK
[19:16] <lordievader> valentin: Whom?
[19:17] <valentin> ALL OF YA :(
[19:18] <lordievader> valentin: This is a support channel, not a community channel, check #kubuntu-offtopic for that.
[19:18] <Solak> BluesKaj: the nvidia-current was installed already, but one of the additional drivers worked. thanks.
[19:20] <valentin> I already went there lordievader
[19:24] <Solak> hmm, now adding the old disk to /etc/fstab...
[19:28] <lordievader> valentin: I do not see you there...
[19:29] <Solak> hmmm...: "OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past."
[19:30] <Solak> and how do I know I have upgraded to a stable driver?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> Solak, so you're setting desktop effects in system settings ?
[19:32] <Solak> yes.
[19:33] <Solak> BluesKaj: is that the wrong way?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> no, it's the correct way
[19:34] <Solak> I get the message that i.e. the cube is not available, which I don't understand...
[19:35] <Solak> now it was set to xrender and I changed to opengl, hoping that would solve the problem...
[19:36] <BluesKaj> yes , Solak , that should ..OpenGL is the best setting
[19:37] <Solak> but what about this warning?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> try the cube animation now
[19:38] <Solak> does libkwinnvidiahack4 have to do with this?
[19:39] <Solak> and the other one, libkwinactivenvidiahack4?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> dunno
[19:41] <Solak> BluesKaj: heh, I don't see a cube, it flips :-)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ctrl f11
[19:42] <genii-around> If you only have two desktops it will just be basically a flat sheet and not a cube
[19:42] <Solak> ah, true :)
[19:44] <BluesKaj> 4 minimum . I use 6 here
[19:44]  * Solak uses 8 normally.
[19:44] <Solak> but first I have to configure fstab to get access to the other harddisk...
[19:45] <Solak> because that contains the old system...
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Solak, it should show in dolphin places
[19:53] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid
[19:53] <Solak> ah, it does indeed...
[19:55] <BluesKaj> i haven't bothered with fstab , everything shows up , altho i have labelled them in partition manager
[19:55] <Solak> I only see sizes here...
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , you can label them and the nakes will show up in "places"
[19:57] <BluesKaj> names
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[20:34] <Guest10716> nickname gigi_ro_de
[20:49] <fuski> Čágo lidi
[23:36] <strahlemann> hello can somebody tell my why i cant find the skype package
[23:36] <strahlemann> at my own pc i installed it via package manager
[23:38] <tsimpson> skype is in the Canonical partner repository
[23:39] <tsimpson> !partner
[23:40] <strahlemann> a lots of thx