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jokerdinoso i can't seem to select gnome-shell in unity-greeter01:04
trismjokerdino: use tab, that's a bit broken for the moment01:05
jokerdinotab. alright. i'll try that in a moment.01:05
trismjokerdino: bug 1052453 , should be fixed soon01:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1052453 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Quantal) "Cannot click other sessions in unity-greeter" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105245301:06
jokerdinothanks trism. tab works fine for now.01:07
ryaxnb9hi guys i'm using Ubuntu 12.10 on a radeon 775001:14
ryaxnb9compositing is very slow and fglrx won't install01:14
ryaxnb9is this going to be fixed on retail release (the fglrx issue)01:14
ryaxnb9or not?01:15
jokerdinoryaxnb9: file a bug report if necessary and hope for the best01:19
ryaxnb9it's not relaly a bug, msot likely01:19
ryaxnb9it's something between ATI blob drivers X.org01:19
ryaxnb9i was just wondering if there was an ETA on new ATi drivers01:19
jokerdinowell i got intel drivers.01:20
ryaxnb9do they usually arrive in time for 12.10?01:20
jokerdinoso, i don't keep tab on graphic drivers01:20
ryaxnb9ok01:20
ryaxnb9i have intel too, but added ati01:20
ryaxnb9i don't want to swap back just for linux, windows likes the amd01:20
ryaxnb9i can always not use compositing but that sucks :(01:21
jokerdinoheh yeah01:21
nicko_Is this a bug.? drag selecting on Libreoffice writer on Ubuntu 12.10 cancels out after selecting many words?01:55
trismnicko_: maybe bug 104902501:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1049025 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Can't select text/highlight using mouse" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104902501:56
jokerdinolooks like trism is the portable bug tracker.02:05
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ryaxnbi propose for future AMD64 versions03:07
ryaxnbobviously i have no authority and i know not to suggest here, just wondering what you thought03:07
ryaxnbto require SSE3 on future AMD64 builds of Ubuntu03:08
ryaxnbas well as SSE203:08
ryaxnbbecause 99% of processors currently in active use that are 64-bit are SSE3 capable, and the ones that aren't are almost certainly hooked to up to <4GB RAM03:08
ryaxnbPlus, sse3 optimizations enhance speed03:09
min|dvir|usHi. My messages indicator is 1px wide. Any thoughts?04:21
oisaHas 12.10 broken anyone's install with inability to configure a kernel package?04:44
oisa3.5.0-14 specifically04:44
whitmanAre there any known issues with the intel i915 driver/xorg? I'm using two monitors and one of them is blank at the login screen and graphically corrupted after login.  I have to disable the monitor in the display settings and then re-enable to sort it out.08:21
whitman(Worked fine in 12.04)08:21
whitmanAlso, System Settings -> Details shows the Graphics as "Unknown" which might be related.08:28
orangeyhello all08:45
orangeyeverything in quantal is incredibly slow despite my computer being lighting fast with 12.0408:45
orangeyCPU never goes up08:45
orangeyMemory is always at 2/16gb08:46
orangeyand HD is an SSD08:46
orangeythe computer was blazingly fast previously.08:46
orangeynow it's like I'm back in 199508:46
orangeyany idea how i could debug it?08:46
vincenzomlHi there. I am unable to run a gnome session in 12.10. Impossible to select it at login in lightdm due to a bug. So I edited .dmrc and even /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but I still log in to unity08:52
orangeyvincenzoml: sadly a known bug08:54
orangeyuse tab / shift tab, then enter08:54
vincenzomlorangey, but changing .dmrc should work shouldn't it?08:54
vincenzomlorangey, I will try tab anyway08:54
orangeyI try not to be too theoretical.08:54
vincenzomlok going back and trying now :) thanks08:55
vincenzomlthanks orangey08:56
orangeywelcome08:56
vincenzomlIt worked, I mean :)08:56
orangeyI figured.08:56
orangeycongrats08:56
BluesKajHey all12:14
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FunnyLookinHatIs anyone aware of a way to get the contacts in Empathy to be small like they could be set to in 12.04 ?13:43
FunnyLookinHatIt doesn't seem to be an option anywhere anymore...13:44
johnjohn101ok, how do i turn this amazon stuff OFF14:19
Pici!adlens14:25
ubottuIf you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping.14:25
johnjohn101i get that canonical needs to make $ but I can' t have my family see this everytime I use the computer14:30
penguin42nod14:30
penguin42johnjohn101: Now I'm curious, is that because they'll start buying too much ? :-)14:30
johnjohn101already getting too many requests as it is for disney stuff14:32
abc__in Lubuntu 12.10 beta there is no automatic official gpu installation tool, will it be available in release?14:47
abc__official gpu driver*14:47
johnjohn10112.10 already looking so good btw.  can't wait to put on home computer.14:47
abc__well i had like 8 crashes in one hour on lubuntu 12.10, still needs a lot of work i think14:54
abc__i had one chromium crash, one pcmanfm crash and the rest were gnome mplayer crashes14:54
johnjohn101i haven't checked out chromium yet.  let me see as well14:56
penguin42chromium on 12.10 seems to have been very touchy for me14:59
johnjohn101which version will be installed by 12.10.  i usually run the version i get off google site15:02
genii-around!info chromium-browser quantal15:04
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 22391 kB, installed size 82066 kB15:04
johnjohn101wow software center crashing like crazy15:08
johnjohn101version 22 is currrent stable15:11
johnjohn101is there a reason that ubuntu is a few versions behind in chrome for official releases?15:16
genii-around!newest15:32
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.15:32
bjsniderjohnjohn101, i don't think there are a lot of full-time people working on chromium-browser packages, and there was a hard drive space problem on the build system too15:41
johnjohn101curiosity mostly, no one really cares as long as they can get facebook loaded!15:41
bjsniderthe folks who do the chromium work also work on firefox development, which is a higher priority15:42
penguin42it's a pity because I do prefer chromium (and have done for a few years) but the quantal packages is very fragile for me15:43
BluesKajjohnjohn101,no one ?15:44
johnjohn101BluesKaj:  my family uses fb in the browser more than any other app on the comptuer15:45
johnjohn101kind of sad in a lot of ways15:45
BluesKajyeeah , agreed ..facebook has stolen ppl's curiosity about the rest of the internet ..i's like a a huge gossip page15:47
johnjohn101i like being able to see pics of friends and certain life events ( holidays, school, accomplishments) but the rest of it is total garbage.15:47
bjsnideri think there's probably a generation gap involved in that opinion15:51
BluesKajfacebook's format change is for the worse , but not using it enough leaves me unable figure out, how to go back15:52
johnjohn101wait until they start shoving ads into your face.15:54
BluesKajgeneration gap , maybe, but I don't need something like facebook to communicate with friends and relatives ...I know ppl who can';t live without it15:56
BluesKajbjsnider, and they're close to my age15:57
johnjohn101to me it's best for pics of friends and family.  I love 1st day of school, july 4,  holiday pics.  opinion BS is stupid15:57
bjsniderBluesKaj, obviously there are exceptions to every rule15:58
johnjohn101do have a friend though going through cancer therapy who posts if some one can walk her dog on any given day, so it's useful for that15:58
BluesKajit has it's uses , such as anouncements of concerts , garage jams etc in our area ( a lot of musicians I know are hooked up thru facebook )16:01
jose__hi, somebody speak Spanish :P16:10
bazhang!es | jose__16:11
ubottujose__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:11
AlecTaylorhi16:11
AlecTaylorHow's the stability with 12.10?16:11
* AlecTaylor thinks he's still got one of the first alpha's installed on a partition somewhere :P16:11
jose__yo entre porque tengo un problema con ubuntu 12.10 beta 116:12
jose__:P16:12
bazhangjose__, so file a bug. english here only16:12
bazhang!bugs | jose__16:12
ubottujose__: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:12
jose__fuck all .l.16:13
jose__hehe16:13
jose__bey16:13
AlecTaylorbazhang: segfault16:16
johnjohn101ha, talk about luck chrome 22 released today.   hee hee16:19
AlecTaylorjohnjohn101: Version overload16:38
johnjohn101seems like both firefox and chrome coming out with new versions at a rapid clip16:39
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C-S-BI cannot mount NFS, I can see this in dmesg: kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.5.0/fs/nfs/idmap.c:684!17:18
TJ-C-S-B: report it upstream then; the path shows you're using a v.35 kernel17:23
C-S-BLinux csb-laptop 3.5.0-14-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 14 20:21:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:24
C-S-BTJ, could you elaborate?17:29
TJ-C-S-B: I recall seeing/hitting the same bug recently. There's an upstream Linux mainline kernel bug about it, report/check there for a fix/workaround.17:37
C-S-Bhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/104221317:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1042213 in linux (Ubuntu) "[quantal] Kernel oops with NFS mount" [Medium,Confirmed]17:39
C-S-BNow I wait...17:42
TJ-C-S-B: I found a workaround/fix but it was a while ago17:49
C-S-BIf you find it, I would be grateful.17:49
TJ-C-S-B: The kernel bug is https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1381741/   and I recall the fix was to use the v3.5.4 mainline-build from the kernel-team PPA http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.4-quantal/17:54
TJ-C-S-B:  the Ubuntu 3.5.4 kernel shows in its changelog that it includes the 2 patches that fix the issue:17:56
TJ-"Bryan Schumaker (2):17:56
TJ-      NFS: Clear key construction data if the idmap upcall fails17:56
TJ-      NFS: return -ENOKEY when the upcall fails to map the name17:56
TJ-"17:56
C-S-BTJ-,  J ust installing now. :D17:57
ironhalikAnybody else got the messeging menu icon broken?18:01
C-S-BTJ ouch, that kernel was a mess.18:02
TJ-Really, why?18:02
TJ-ironhalik: several reports yesterday about that18:03
C-S-BWrong gfx, no wifi18:03
C-S-B*resolution18:03
C-S-BI've rolled back to 3.218:04
trismC-S-B: you installed linux-image-extras too right?18:06
C-S-Byup18:06
trismjust checking, I missed that early in the quantal cycle18:07
johnjohn101last beta out tomorrow.  when will pidgin indicators be fixed?18:07
C-S-BErr... actually18:07
C-S-BI installed: linux-headers-3.5.4-030504_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_all.deb18:07
C-S-Blinux-headers-3.5.4-030504-generic_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_amd64.deb18:07
C-S-Blinux-image-3.5.4-030504-generic_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_amd64.deb18:07
TJ-C-S-B: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_Mainline_Kernels18:11
C-S-BTJ-,  my bad18:12
trismjohnjohn101: doesn't look like it will be in for beta 2 but it is assigned so I imagine we will see it before the final release, bug 104025918:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1040259 in smuxi (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFE: libmessaging-menu transitions for quantal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104025918:13
C-S-BYou'll all be glad to know that's working.18:21
C-S-B#cheers!18:21
C-S-Btrism, that's pretty late to put a fix in for a pretty bad bug.18:21
johnjohn101trism: tx18:33
ironhalikanyone noticed any problems with WLAN?18:57
ironhalikWWAN*18:57
ironhalik:>18:57
ironhalikit shows 'registration denied'18:57
GalvatronHi19:00
GalvatronIs it possible to disable these "overlay" titlebars in Compiz "Scale" mode?19:01
johnhamelinkHey guys19:12
johnhamelinkI am running wmfs2 on ubuntu. I want to launch it using .xinitrc so i can run some other Startup scripts at the same time. I'm on 12.10. Any hints?19:12
penguin42wmfs2?19:12
johnhamelinkpenguin42, http://wmfs.info/19:12
johnhamelinkit's a tiling WM19:13
penguin42ah19:13
johnhamelinkI'm currently running it with an xsession file19:13
johnhamelinkBut I can't run any startup scripts post-x, pre-wmfs219:13
johnhamelink(afaik)19:14
johnhamelinkI've done this before by building a .xinitrc file that sets everything up then execs wmfs219:14
penguin42and that isn't working on 12.10?19:15
johnhamelinkthat way everything is setup upon login19:15
johnhamelinkpenguin42, Well I'm not sure how to get .xinitrc to work19:15
johnhamelinkit doesn't show up on the login screen19:15
johnhamelinkI'm on Beta1 btw19:15
penguin42it's some years since I used an .xinitrc19:15
johnhamelinkpenguin42, is there a better way to do it these days?19:15
penguin42johnhamelink: WHy would you expect it to show up on the login screen?19:16
johnhamelinkwith GDM it always worked that way19:16
penguin42oh, in that case I'm out of ideas - I wouldn't have expected it to19:16
johnhamelink:(19:16
trismjohnhamelink: you could write a script to start up all the stuff you want, then write an xsession .desktop file to /usr/share/xsessions/ pointing to the script19:37
bjsniderjbicha, what is your view of nautilus 3.6?20:00
bjsnideri'm reading mccann's post about it now20:00
jbichabjsnider: I like Nautilus 3.6 a lot better than previous Nautilus releases, it looks great on Ubuntu & it will get a bit more polishing for 3.820:01
bjsniderthat's obviously not a view shared by that mint guy20:02
jbichaMint is chasing a different audience20:02
bjsnideri'm not sure what the hell he was complaining about really20:03
jbicha"beautiful" is a bit subjective, but for what I use Nautilus for, 3.6 is more usable20:03
jbichacompact view and split panes apparently are a big deal to some people20:05
bjsnidernot to me20:05
bjsniderdoes search actuallyw ork now?20:05
jbichabjsnider: works for me, if you're on quantal, you can use the gnome3 ppa to give it a try20:06
bjsnideri'll get that set up this weekend20:06
bjsnider"new folder with selection". that's awesome stuff20:07
jbichaI believe 3.8 will get rid of the need for right-click (with the selection thing that Documents does) so that it'll be fully usable on a touchscreen20:10
nixiedoesalpinehelloo again any chance of getting this bug solved in 12.10 ?20:56
nixiedoesalpinehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/101966920:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1019669 in linux (Ubuntu) "10ec:8168 WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/net/sched/sch_generic.c:255 dev_watchdog+0x25a/0x270()" [Medium,Triaged]20:56
penguin42nixiedoesalpine: Have you tried quantal on it? It's worth a go?20:59
nixiedoesalpineyea21:00
nixiedoesalpinesame problem21:00
nixiedoesalpine12.10 beta121:00
penguin42OK, can you add a note to that it still happens on quantal, also what happens if you try it from a live cd, does the networking work?21:00
nixiedoesalpineyea live cd works21:01
nixiedoesalpineafter installation to hard disk most of the websites do not open21:01
penguin42nixiedoesalpine: OK, can you also add that to the note21:01
nixiedoesalpinehow to do taht21:01
penguin42nixiedoesalpine: Just go to the bug and add a comment at the end just saying it works fine on the live cd, but not on the hard drive install and exactly which version you tried it on, also do you still get that error in the dmesg output?21:02
nixiedoesalpineguys what to do now should i stick to windows21:03
penguin42nixiedoesalpine: It might be worth trying something like Fedora linux instead to see if that works; your bug is a bit odd, if it works in the live cd but not the install, but from that dmesg it does look kernel related21:04
nixiedoesalpinebut 12.10 3.5 kernel i think same problem21:05
nixiedoesalpine12.10 has different kernel?21:05
nixiedoesalpine:)21:05
penguin4212.10 is 3.5.421:06
nixiedoesalpineyep21:06
penguin42sorry21:06
penguin42no21:06
penguin42nixiedoesalpine: But it seems a bit more complex than just the kernel if it works on hte live cd with the same kernel; so it might be worth trying fedora just in case21:06
* penguin42 has to disappear for a while21:06
nixiedoesalpinelol21:06
nixiedoesalpinefunny bum21:07

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