[01:04] <jokerdino> so i can't seem to select gnome-shell in unity-greeter
[01:05] <trism> jokerdino: use tab, that's a bit broken for the moment
[01:05] <jokerdino> tab. alright. i'll try that in a moment.
[01:06] <trism> jokerdino: bug 1052453 , should be fixed soon
[01:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1052453 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Quantal) "Cannot click other sessions in unity-greeter" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052453
[01:07] <jokerdino> thanks trism. tab works fine for now.
[01:14] <ryaxnb9> hi guys i'm using Ubuntu 12.10 on a radeon 7750
[01:14] <ryaxnb9> compositing is very slow and fglrx won't install
[01:14] <ryaxnb9> is this going to be fixed on retail release (the fglrx issue)
[01:15] <ryaxnb9> or not?
[01:19] <jokerdino> ryaxnb9: file a bug report if necessary and hope for the best
[01:19] <ryaxnb9> it's not relaly a bug, msot likely
[01:19] <ryaxnb9> it's something between ATI blob drivers X.org
[01:19] <ryaxnb9> i was just wondering if there was an ETA on new ATi drivers
[01:20] <jokerdino> well i got intel drivers.
[01:20] <ryaxnb9> do they usually arrive in time for 12.10?
[01:20] <jokerdino> so, i don't keep tab on graphic drivers
[01:20] <ryaxnb9> ok
[01:20] <ryaxnb9> i have intel too, but added ati
[01:20] <ryaxnb9> i don't want to swap back just for linux, windows likes the amd
[01:21] <ryaxnb9> i can always not use compositing but that sucks :(
[01:21] <jokerdino> heh yeah
[01:55] <nicko_> Is this a bug.? drag selecting on Libreoffice writer on Ubuntu 12.10 cancels out after selecting many words?
[01:56] <trism> nicko_: maybe bug 1049025
[01:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1049025 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Can't select text/highlight using mouse" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049025
[02:05] <jokerdino> looks like trism is the portable bug tracker.
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[03:07] <ryaxnb> i propose for future AMD64 versions
[03:07] <ryaxnb> obviously i have no authority and i know not to suggest here, just wondering what you thought
[03:08] <ryaxnb> to require SSE3 on future AMD64 builds of Ubuntu
[03:08] <ryaxnb> as well as SSE2
[03:08] <ryaxnb> because 99% of processors currently in active use that are 64-bit are SSE3 capable, and the ones that aren't are almost certainly hooked to up to <4GB RAM
[03:09] <ryaxnb> Plus, sse3 optimizations enhance speed
[04:21] <min|dvir|us> Hi. My messages indicator is 1px wide. Any thoughts?
[04:44] <oisa> Has 12.10 broken anyone's install with inability to configure a kernel package?
[04:44] <oisa> 3.5.0-14 specifically
[08:21] <whitman> Are there any known issues with the intel i915 driver/xorg? I'm using two monitors and one of them is blank at the login screen and graphically corrupted after login.  I have to disable the monitor in the display settings and then re-enable to sort it out.
[08:21] <whitman> (Worked fine in 12.04)
[08:28] <whitman> Also, System Settings -> Details shows the Graphics as "Unknown" which might be related.
[08:45] <orangey> hello all
[08:45] <orangey> everything in quantal is incredibly slow despite my computer being lighting fast with 12.04
[08:45] <orangey> CPU never goes up
[08:46] <orangey> Memory is always at 2/16gb
[08:46] <orangey> and HD is an SSD
[08:46] <orangey> the computer was blazingly fast previously.
[08:46] <orangey> now it's like I'm back in 1995
[08:46] <orangey> any idea how i could debug it?
[08:52] <vincenzoml> Hi there. I am unable to run a gnome session in 12.10. Impossible to select it at login in lightdm due to a bug. So I edited .dmrc and even /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but I still log in to unity
[08:54] <orangey> vincenzoml: sadly a known bug
[08:54] <orangey> use tab / shift tab, then enter
[08:54] <vincenzoml> orangey, but changing .dmrc should work shouldn't it?
[08:54] <vincenzoml> orangey, I will try tab anyway
[08:54] <orangey> I try not to be too theoretical.
[08:55] <vincenzoml> ok going back and trying now :) thanks
[08:56] <vincenzoml> thanks orangey
[08:56] <orangey> welcome
[08:56] <vincenzoml> It worked, I mean :)
[08:56] <orangey> I figured.
[08:56] <orangey> congrats
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
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[13:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Is anyone aware of a way to get the contacts in Empathy to be small like they could be set to in 12.04 ?
[13:44] <FunnyLookinHat> It doesn't seem to be an option anywhere anymore...
[14:19] <johnjohn101> ok, how do i turn this amazon stuff OFF
[14:25] <Pici> !adlens
[14:25] <ubottu> If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping.
[14:30] <johnjohn101> i get that canonical needs to make $ but I can' t have my family see this everytime I use the computer
[14:30] <penguin42> nod
[14:30] <penguin42> johnjohn101: Now I'm curious, is that because they'll start buying too much ? :-)
[14:32] <johnjohn101> already getting too many requests as it is for disney stuff
[14:47] <abc__> in Lubuntu 12.10 beta there is no automatic official gpu installation tool, will it be available in release?
[14:47] <abc__> official gpu driver*
[14:47] <johnjohn101> 12.10 already looking so good btw.  can't wait to put on home computer.
[14:54] <abc__> well i had like 8 crashes in one hour on lubuntu 12.10, still needs a lot of work i think
[14:54] <abc__> i had one chromium crash, one pcmanfm crash and the rest were gnome mplayer crashes
[14:56] <johnjohn101> i haven't checked out chromium yet.  let me see as well
[14:59] <penguin42> chromium on 12.10 seems to have been very touchy for me
[15:02] <johnjohn101> which version will be installed by 12.10.  i usually run the version i get off google site
[15:04] <genii-around> !info chromium-browser quantal
[15:04] <ubottu> chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 22391 kB, installed size 82066 kB
[15:08] <johnjohn101> wow software center crashing like crazy
[15:11] <johnjohn101> version 22 is currrent stable
[15:16] <johnjohn101> is there a reason that ubuntu is a few versions behind in chrome for official releases?
[15:32] <genii-around> !newest
[15:32] <ubottu> Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[15:41] <bjsnider> johnjohn101, i don't think there are a lot of full-time people working on chromium-browser packages, and there was a hard drive space problem on the build system too
[15:41] <johnjohn101> curiosity mostly, no one really cares as long as they can get facebook loaded!
[15:42] <bjsnider> the folks who do the chromium work also work on firefox development, which is a higher priority
[15:43] <penguin42> it's a pity because I do prefer chromium (and have done for a few years) but the quantal packages is very fragile for me
[15:44] <BluesKaj> johnjohn101,no one ?
[15:45] <johnjohn101> BluesKaj:  my family uses fb in the browser more than any other app on the comptuer
[15:45] <johnjohn101> kind of sad in a lot of ways
[15:47] <BluesKaj> yeeah , agreed ..facebook has stolen ppl's curiosity about the rest of the internet ..i's like a a huge gossip page
[15:47] <johnjohn101> i like being able to see pics of friends and certain life events ( holidays, school, accomplishments) but the rest of it is total garbage.
[15:51] <bjsnider> i think there's probably a generation gap involved in that opinion
[15:52] <BluesKaj> facebook's format change is for the worse , but not using it enough leaves me unable figure out, how to go back
[15:54] <johnjohn101> wait until they start shoving ads into your face.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> generation gap , maybe, but I don't need something like facebook to communicate with friends and relatives ...I know ppl who can';t live without it
[15:57] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, and they're close to my age
[15:57] <johnjohn101> to me it's best for pics of friends and family.  I love 1st day of school, july 4,  holiday pics.  opinion BS is stupid
[15:58] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, obviously there are exceptions to every rule
[15:58] <johnjohn101> do have a friend though going through cancer therapy who posts if some one can walk her dog on any given day, so it's useful for that
[16:01] <BluesKaj> it has it's uses , such as anouncements of concerts , garage jams etc in our area ( a lot of musicians I know are hooked up thru facebook )
[16:10] <jose__> hi, somebody speak Spanish :P
[16:11] <bazhang> !es | jose__
[16:11] <ubottu> jose__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[16:11] <AlecTaylor> hi
[16:11] <AlecTaylor> How's the stability with 12.10?
[16:11]  * AlecTaylor thinks he's still got one of the first alpha's installed on a partition somewhere :P
[16:12] <jose__> yo entre porque tengo un problema con ubuntu 12.10 beta 1
[16:12] <jose__> :P
[16:12] <bazhang> jose__, so file a bug. english here only
[16:12] <bazhang> !bugs | jose__
[16:12] <ubottu> jose__: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[16:13] <jose__> fuck all .l.
[16:13] <jose__> hehe
[16:13] <jose__> bey
[16:16] <AlecTaylor> bazhang: segfault
[16:19] <johnjohn101> ha, talk about luck chrome 22 released today.   hee hee
[16:38] <AlecTaylor> johnjohn101: Version overload
[16:39] <johnjohn101> seems like both firefox and chrome coming out with new versions at a rapid clip
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[17:18] <C-S-B> I cannot mount NFS, I can see this in dmesg: kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.5.0/fs/nfs/idmap.c:684!
[17:23] <TJ-> C-S-B: report it upstream then; the path shows you're using a v.35 kernel
[17:24] <C-S-B> Linux csb-laptop 3.5.0-14-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 14 20:21:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:29] <C-S-B> TJ, could you elaborate?
[17:37] <TJ-> C-S-B: I recall seeing/hitting the same bug recently. There's an upstream Linux mainline kernel bug about it, report/check there for a fix/workaround.
[17:39] <C-S-B> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1042213
[17:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1042213 in linux (Ubuntu) "[quantal] Kernel oops with NFS mount" [Medium,Confirmed]
[17:42] <C-S-B> Now I wait...
[17:49] <TJ-> C-S-B: I found a workaround/fix but it was a while ago
[17:49] <C-S-B> If you find it, I would be grateful.
[17:54] <TJ-> C-S-B: The kernel bug is https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1381741/   and I recall the fix was to use the v3.5.4 mainline-build from the kernel-team PPA http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.4-quantal/
[17:56] <TJ-> C-S-B:  the Ubuntu 3.5.4 kernel shows in its changelog that it includes the 2 patches that fix the issue:
[17:56] <TJ-> "Bryan Schumaker (2):
[17:56] <TJ->       NFS: Clear key construction data if the idmap upcall fails
[17:56] <TJ->       NFS: return -ENOKEY when the upcall fails to map the name
[17:56] <TJ-> "
[17:57] <C-S-B> TJ-,  J ust installing now. :D
[18:01] <ironhalik> Anybody else got the messeging menu icon broken?
[18:02] <C-S-B> TJ ouch, that kernel was a mess.
[18:02] <TJ-> Really, why?
[18:03] <TJ-> ironhalik: several reports yesterday about that
[18:03] <C-S-B> Wrong gfx, no wifi
[18:03] <C-S-B> *resolution
[18:04] <C-S-B> I've rolled back to 3.2
[18:06] <trism> C-S-B: you installed linux-image-extras too right?
[18:06] <C-S-B> yup
[18:07] <trism> just checking, I missed that early in the quantal cycle
[18:07] <johnjohn101> last beta out tomorrow.  when will pidgin indicators be fixed?
[18:07] <C-S-B> Err... actually
[18:07] <C-S-B> I installed: linux-headers-3.5.4-030504_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_all.deb
[18:07] <C-S-B> linux-headers-3.5.4-030504-generic_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_amd64.deb
[18:07] <C-S-B> linux-image-3.5.4-030504-generic_3.5.4-030504.201209142010_amd64.deb
[18:11] <TJ-> C-S-B: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_Mainline_Kernels
[18:12] <C-S-B> TJ-,  my bad
[18:13] <trism> johnjohn101: doesn't look like it will be in for beta 2 but it is assigned so I imagine we will see it before the final release, bug 1040259
[18:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040259 in smuxi (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFE: libmessaging-menu transitions for quantal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040259
[18:21] <C-S-B> You'll all be glad to know that's working.
[18:21] <C-S-B> #cheers!
[18:21] <C-S-B> trism, that's pretty late to put a fix in for a pretty bad bug.
[18:33] <johnjohn101> trism: tx
[18:57] <ironhalik> anyone noticed any problems with WLAN?
[18:57] <ironhalik> WWAN*
[18:57] <ironhalik> :>
[18:57] <ironhalik> it shows 'registration denied'
[19:00] <Galvatron> Hi
[19:01] <Galvatron> Is it possible to disable these "overlay" titlebars in Compiz "Scale" mode?
[19:12] <johnhamelink> Hey guys
[19:12] <johnhamelink> I am running wmfs2 on ubuntu. I want to launch it using .xinitrc so i can run some other Startup scripts at the same time. I'm on 12.10. Any hints?
[19:12] <penguin42> wmfs2?
[19:12] <johnhamelink> penguin42, http://wmfs.info/
[19:13] <johnhamelink> it's a tiling WM
[19:13] <penguin42> ah
[19:13] <johnhamelink> I'm currently running it with an xsession file
[19:13] <johnhamelink> But I can't run any startup scripts post-x, pre-wmfs2
[19:14] <johnhamelink> (afaik)
[19:14] <johnhamelink> I've done this before by building a .xinitrc file that sets everything up then execs wmfs2
[19:15] <penguin42> and that isn't working on 12.10?
[19:15] <johnhamelink> that way everything is setup upon login
[19:15] <johnhamelink> penguin42, Well I'm not sure how to get .xinitrc to work
[19:15] <johnhamelink> it doesn't show up on the login screen
[19:15] <johnhamelink> I'm on Beta1 btw
[19:15] <penguin42> it's some years since I used an .xinitrc
[19:15] <johnhamelink> penguin42, is there a better way to do it these days?
[19:16] <penguin42> johnhamelink: WHy would you expect it to show up on the login screen?
[19:16] <johnhamelink> with GDM it always worked that way
[19:16] <penguin42> oh, in that case I'm out of ideas - I wouldn't have expected it to
[19:16] <johnhamelink> :(
[19:37] <trism> johnhamelink: you could write a script to start up all the stuff you want, then write an xsession .desktop file to /usr/share/xsessions/ pointing to the script
[20:00] <bjsnider> jbicha, what is your view of nautilus 3.6?
[20:00] <bjsnider> i'm reading mccann's post about it now
[20:01] <jbicha> bjsnider: I like Nautilus 3.6 a lot better than previous Nautilus releases, it looks great on Ubuntu & it will get a bit more polishing for 3.8
[20:02] <bjsnider> that's obviously not a view shared by that mint guy
[20:02] <jbicha> Mint is chasing a different audience
[20:03] <bjsnider> i'm not sure what the hell he was complaining about really
[20:03] <jbicha> "beautiful" is a bit subjective, but for what I use Nautilus for, 3.6 is more usable
[20:05] <jbicha> compact view and split panes apparently are a big deal to some people
[20:05] <bjsnider> not to me
[20:05] <bjsnider> does search actuallyw ork now?
[20:06] <jbicha> bjsnider: works for me, if you're on quantal, you can use the gnome3 ppa to give it a try
[20:06] <bjsnider> i'll get that set up this weekend
[20:07] <bjsnider> "new folder with selection". that's awesome stuff
[20:10] <jbicha> I believe 3.8 will get rid of the need for right-click (with the selection thing that Documents does) so that it'll be fully usable on a touchscreen
[20:56] <nixiedoesalpine> helloo again any chance of getting this bug solved in 12.10 ?
[20:56] <nixiedoesalpine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1019669
[20:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1019669 in linux (Ubuntu) "10ec:8168 WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/net/sched/sch_generic.c:255 dev_watchdog+0x25a/0x270()" [Medium,Triaged]
[20:59] <penguin42> nixiedoesalpine: Have you tried quantal on it? It's worth a go?
[21:00] <nixiedoesalpine> yea
[21:00] <nixiedoesalpine> same problem
[21:00] <nixiedoesalpine> 12.10 beta1
[21:00] <penguin42> OK, can you add a note to that it still happens on quantal, also what happens if you try it from a live cd, does the networking work?
[21:01] <nixiedoesalpine> yea live cd works
[21:01] <nixiedoesalpine> after installation to hard disk most of the websites do not open
[21:01] <penguin42> nixiedoesalpine: OK, can you also add that to the note
[21:01] <nixiedoesalpine> how to do taht
[21:02] <penguin42> nixiedoesalpine: Just go to the bug and add a comment at the end just saying it works fine on the live cd, but not on the hard drive install and exactly which version you tried it on, also do you still get that error in the dmesg output?
[21:03] <nixiedoesalpine> guys what to do now should i stick to windows
[21:04] <penguin42> nixiedoesalpine: It might be worth trying something like Fedora linux instead to see if that works; your bug is a bit odd, if it works in the live cd but not the install, but from that dmesg it does look kernel related
[21:05] <nixiedoesalpine> but 12.10 3.5 kernel i think same problem
[21:05] <nixiedoesalpine> 12.10 has different kernel?
[21:05] <nixiedoesalpine> :)
[21:06] <penguin42> 12.10 is 3.5.4
[21:06] <nixiedoesalpine> yep
[21:06] <penguin42> sorry
[21:06] <penguin42> no
[21:06] <penguin42> nixiedoesalpine: But it seems a bit more complex than just the kernel if it works on hte live cd with the same kernel; so it might be worth trying fedora just in case
[21:06]  * penguin42 has to disappear for a while
[21:06] <nixiedoesalpine> lol
[21:07] <nixiedoesalpine> funny bum