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| iulian | Goooood morning dholbach. | 07:32 |
| dholbach | hi iulian! | 07:34 |
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| bobweaver | Hello there I was just playing around with playonlinx when I noticed that a third of the programs will not install because it (play on linux version) Is too old. I am on 12.10 the version is 4.1.1 and I noticed on Play on linux's site that they are up to 4.1.8 so I installed 4.1.8 and this version is way better then the one in the ubuntu ppa I mean there is more features and way more tools. So I was thinking why does Ubuntu have such | 16:51 |
| bobweaver | a old versions ? And is there anything that I could do to update the repo to be 4.1.8 and not 4.1.1 ? | 16:51 |
| bobweaver | thanks for your time | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687207 | 16:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 687207 in playonlinux "playonlinux: New version available" [Wishlist,Open] | 16:52 |
| bobweaver | cjwatson, should I make debian package of 4.1.8 ? | 16:54 |
| bobweaver | I do not know How to work with debian though they where real real real real real mean to mean on there channels when I was 1st starting out so I do not know if I care to either | 16:55 |
| bobweaver | maybe someone can explain some stuff to me about there hosting and what not at UDS ? | 16:56 |
| bobweaver | would any one like to set up a appointment with me at UDS to explain there hosting and tools that they use ? | 16:57 |
| bobweaver | I have a question about debuild I am so use to uploading my own packages that I have made from scratch that I do not know how to tell debuild not to include everything on upload, Example I always have ran debuild -S -sa what do I run to tell it that they source code is already uploaded and there is no reason to upload source code when running dput on the changes file | 17:33 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: we (Ubuntu) care about debian, so please don't write off debian too easily | 17:37 |
| tumbleweed | as I didn't see this myself, I have no idea about the specifics, but yes, happy to chat about it at UDS | 17:38 |
| bobweaver | tumbleweed, I will not tumbleweed I also care about debian a bunch and use it all the time and Love the freedoom that it gives , But I just had a hard time with the community | 17:38 |
| bobweaver | that is all | 17:38 |
| bobweaver | it happens you know | 17:38 |
| tumbleweed | of course | 17:38 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: as to your debuild question: -sa means include the orig tarball even if it doesn't think it needs to | 17:39 |
| bobweaver | I am also sure that they where not to impressed by me asking a bunch of question ;) | 17:40 |
| tumbleweed | usually you don't need to specifiy -sd or -sa, it should get it right | 17:40 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: being patient, respectful of others' time, and having a thick skin - all usually helps | 17:40 |
| bobweaver | but you are right I am not going to let a couple bad eggs ruin my omelet . maybe they where having a bad day, we all do | 17:41 |
| * bobweaver goes to medical cabinet and gets out vit B (think skin) | 17:42 | |
| bobweaver | thick * | 17:42 |
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| bobweaver | tumbleweed, PM ? about meetup at UDS | 17:43 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: sure | 17:46 |
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| cjwatson | bobweaver: #debian IRC is often not desperately representative of Debian. It works much more by e-mail. | 17:56 |
| bobweaver | Thanks cjwatson ! | 17:56 |
| bobweaver | I will keep that in mind for the future | 17:56 |
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| bobweaver | question: under the line Uploaders: in the debian dir can I have 2 people? example Uploaders: Jose Doe <josedoe@email.com>, Jose Moe <josemoe@email> | 17:58 |
| bobweaver | in the control file sorry | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | Yes. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Uploaders | 18:00 |
| bobweaver | cjwatson, I was just reading that and was wondering what folded means ? in the line "The Uploaders field in debian/control can be folded." | 18:02 |
| cjwatson | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-controlsyntax defines that. | 18:03 |
| bobweaver | I see thanks again | 18:06 |
| bobweaver | I am sorry to ask another question but I can not seem to get this control file right. error is line 37: first block lacks a source field Here is the control file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228959/ | 18:17 |
| bobweaver | thanks again for your time | 18:17 |
| jtaylor | bobweaver: why not use the existing package as a starting point? | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | bobweaver: in that control file you are mixing source and binary package | 18:19 |
| bobweaver | you mean that the stanza is not correct and there needs to be two ? I tried that like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228973/ but it errors out on line 13 because of the white space | 18:22 |
| bobweaver | I m sorry I dont not follow | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | the first line should be Source: | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | and installed-size is no key | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | neither is Version | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | apt-get source playonlinux for a working control | 18:23 |
| bobweaver | Oh my I see what you are saying I am dumb sometimes line one neds to be Source not package | 18:25 |
| bobweaver | Sweet it worked | 18:35 |
| bobweaver | In the ppa ! https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta | 18:35 |
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| bobweaver | Hello there as some of you know I was playing with play on linux and updating the version. Well I am done now. And Fixed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687207 Now I am wondering how to upload to debian so it will make its way to Ubuntu ? | 23:00 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 687207 in playonlinux "playonlinux: New version available" [Wishlist,Open] | 23:00 |
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| cjwatson | bobweaver: You can't - you offer a patch to the Debian maintainers and they decide whether to accept it | 23:21 |
| cjwatson | bobweaver: However I noticed that you appeared to have repackaged playonlinux from scratch | 23:22 |
| cjwatson | That's not good | 23:22 |
| bobweaver | Yeah because the source upstream had changed | 23:22 |
| cjwatson | That's not a reason to repackage from scratch | 23:22 |
| bobweaver | I sould make it with the upstream tar ball ? | 23:22 |
| cjwatson | When you update a Debian (or Ubuntu) package to a new upstream version, you don't start from scratch and run dh_make against the upstream tarball | 23:23 |
| cjwatson | You update the existing packaging | 23:23 |
| cjwatson | You appear to have taken things like the changelog but thrown away most of the rest of the packaging | 23:25 |
| cjwatson | I'd actually suggest just leaving it to the Debian games team, TBH, as they likely know what they're doing here - they just said in the bug that they didn't want to bother with it until after wheezy's released | 23:26 |
| cjwatson | Ah, it looks like upstream has their own partial debian/ directory now, or something | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | We generally ignore those | 23:27 |
| bobweaver | cjwatson, could you point me to a tutorial for that ? I know that it is a large subject . I guess what I am missing is . do I go to Git and grab upstream or apt-get source POL then run a diff on that tarball and change the files and the debian stuff ? Yeah I think that must of the stuff that was in the debian/* | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | Er, in general it is a creative task that involves knowing the package | 23:27 |
| bobweaver | was old and not needed | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | Things like uscan can help with the basics but the details of revision control and the like totally depend on the package and its maintainers | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | I don't have a tutorial for you | 23:28 |
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