[00:01] <jrwren> is it s3 ?
[00:01] <jrwren> http api?
[00:10] <snap-l> Jesus, playing semantics on identi.ca
[00:11] <snap-l> no wonder people were knocking themselves over to hang out there. :-P
[00:58] <jcastro_> rick_h_ hey
[01:17] <rick_h_> jcastro_: yep
[01:37] <jcastro_> rick_h_ recommendation for like a laser wall thing?
[01:37] <jcastro_> for like lining things up
[01:38] <jcastro_> or does it matter
[01:38] <rick_h_> The big thing is get something that runs both ways if you can. So you put it on the wall once and have a line both directions to hang stuff
[01:39] <rick_h_> I got one with the 3M removable sticky things and works great
[01:39] <jcastro_> ok
[01:39] <rick_h_> don't know on the suction kind and I didn't want anything that made a hole
[01:39] <jcastro_> do I need a stud finder?
[01:40] <rick_h_> yea
[01:40] <rick_h_> you'll find things that need to be on studs, or to avoid the studs
[01:40] <rick_h_> especially electical
[01:48] <jrwren> you may not borrow my wife for that.
[01:59] <snap-l> jrwren: He said stud finder, not drip detector. ;)
[01:59] <snap-l> Why did that suddenly feel like a Welcome Back Kotter line?
[02:15] <jrwren> *sad trombone*
[10:52] <rick_h_> morning
[10:56] <rick_h_> ouch http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2012/09/26/compromised-sourceforge-mirror/?utm_source=rss2
[10:56] <rick_h_> finally read the stuff on that this morning
[11:17] <brousch> Interesting
[11:17] <brousch> Another rough week for poor Dave
[12:22] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:22] <snap-l> brousch: Likely not Dave's baliwick
[12:27] <snap-l> But still sucks because it takes resources away from other projects.
[12:38] <brousch> jrwren: Dreamhosts object storage is not S3, but has a S3-compatible API
[12:39] <rick_h_> *cough* openstack *cough* I think
[12:42] <brousch> Yeah
[12:43] <brousch> "Canonical Ltd’s Ubuntu Linux 12.4 powers DreamObjects"
[12:43] <brousch> http://dreamhost.com/press-releases/dreamhost-introduces-dreamobjects-cloud-storage-service/
[13:26] <jrwren> s3 compat abpi is cool.
[13:26] <jrwren> we need that in our basements.
[13:41] <snap-l> kitten has discovered the joy of paper towel
[13:41] <snap-l> and toilet paper
[14:00] <rick_h_> snap-l: hah
[14:29] <brousch> Full HD tablet from B&N for $270 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/Compare-NOOKs/379003181
[14:29] <brousch> I thought they would give up
[14:31] <snap-l> brousch: Nah, they still have a compelling story to tell
[14:32] <snap-l> Wonder if the nook tablet will get an upgrade
[14:32] <snap-l> Thinking htat's highly doubtful
[14:32] <brousch> Those new tablets are better specs than the Kindle fires
[14:32] <brousch> snap-l: Thise are the upgrades
[14:35] <snap-l> I hean software upgrades for current owners
[14:35] <brousch> ah, software
[14:35] <brousch> Haven't there been software updates?
[14:35] <rick_h_> right, but no amazon video, no amazon music
[14:36] <rick_h_> they've got devices without content :/
[14:36] <brousch> I remember one of them broke the Nook Color rooting hole for a while
[14:36] <brousch> rick_h_: Root and ROM
[14:36] <snap-l> from the press release, it doesn't sound like it
[14:39] <jcastro_> jrwren, yeah so the dreamhost thing is cool
[14:39] <jcastro_> because it's like 4 cents cheaper than S3 last I checked
[14:47] <brousch> What is Coderwall? http://coderwall.com/brousch/achievements/33707
[14:48] <brousch> They just wander the web stalking people and giving them badges?
[14:49] <rick_h_> http://coderwall.com/mitechie it started out as badges for github stuff
[14:49] <rick_h_> "you've got 5 python projects" etc
[14:51] <brousch> "Rick needs just 3 more endorsements to unlock ActionScript"
[14:51] <brousch> I'm so going to endorse you
[14:51] <brousch> Even better, PHP
[14:51] <jcastro_> "Git has taken over where Linux left off separating the geeks into know-nothings and know-it-alls. I didn’t really expect anyone to use it because it’s so hard to use, but that turns out to be its big appeal. No technology can ever be too arcane or complicated for the black t-shirt crowd."
[14:51] <jcastro_> linus is so awesome
[14:51] <brousch> "Rick needs just 3 more endorsements to unlock PHP"
[14:51] <jcastro_> there you go rick_h_
[14:52] <rick_h_> heh, thankfully it proves I've left my bad habits behind me...
[15:08] <snap-l> rick_h_: You're always one hit away from going back to bad habits
[15:09] <snap-l> <- king of bad habits
[15:11] <dzho> jcastro_: word is you're going to be hitting Columbus soon
[15:11] <jcastro_> yeah, friday
[15:11] <snap-l> jcastro_: No way we can convince you to stay through Saturday?
[15:12] <jcastro_> can't
[15:12] <jcastro_> jill has an open house on saturday we have to go to
[15:12] <jcastro_> for her work
[15:12] <dzho> bummer
[15:12] <snap-l> understandable. No worries.
[15:12] <snap-l> Grateful for the bit of time we'll have.
[15:24] <snap-l> NOOK Cloud: All NOOK content is delivered via Wi-Fi and safely stored through NOOK Cloud, making NOOK Books, videos, apps and other content accessible across NOOK, personal computing and mobile devices using free NOOK Reading and NOOK Video apps.
[15:25] <snap-l> Apparently Digital Locker is now referred to as "Cloud"
[15:25] <rick_h_> online == cloud, didn't you hear?
[15:25] <rick_h_> you need to contact your cloud service provider if you can't access google
[15:26] <brousch> It's a cloud if they have more than one datacenter
[15:29] <snap-l> It's like everything being called "mainframe"
[15:33] <brousch> The cloud is mainframes!
[15:35] <brousch> I'll be at GrrCON tomorrow with Kevin Mitnick. Who wants an authograph?
[15:38] <snap-l> brousch: Too bad there's not enough time for you to grab my copy of Art of Deception
[15:41] <brousch> But there is time for you to come!
[16:15] <greg-g> snap-l / brousch that joke is almost too close to true :/
[16:15] <snap-l> greg-g: The cloud / mainframe one?
[16:15]  * greg-g nods
[16:16] <snap-l> Yeah, it's enough to make a semantic lawyer nearly apoplectic.
[16:26] <greg-g> snap-l: so, I don't know, I just have to say that in the morning, when I reading the twitter and identi.ca "scrollback" I see much more awesome discussion on identi.ca. Which, is obviously a function of  who I follow where (what else would it be a function of? medium isn't that different). Which is why I'm on a twitter following purge
[16:27] <greg-g> so, all I'm saying is, I find the (smaller number of) people I follow on identi.ca to be more interesting, generally, than the (much larger number of) people I follow on twitter, except! for getting news
[16:28] <greg-g> news is still better from twitter, my followers there tend to be more (openly) political
[16:28] <snap-l> greg-g: Oh, I've never sipped in the quality of the conversation
[16:28] <snap-l> s/sipped/dipped/
[16:29] <snap-l> if I need to know the pulse of CC or OSS, identi.ca is the place
[16:31] <greg-g> so, I think an important thing is to clarify, it isn't the medium, it is who you follow. Which is why I was careful to say "those who I follow on identi.ca versus who I follow on twitter"
[16:31] <rick_h_> right, all these tools are what you make of them
[16:32] <snap-l> Absolutely
[16:33] <snap-l> It's like the people who bitch about Mongolian having dry meat, after making a bowl of essentially meatloaf.
[16:33] <snap-l> (no veggies, no sauce, etc)
[16:34] <greg-g> so yeah, apparently I follow more interesting people (to my taste) on identi.ca than twitter, minus the news commentary on twitter, which is why I follow both
[16:38] <snap-l> The reason for the original post was to disabuse folks from seeking api freedom from Twitter.
[16:39] <snap-l> And also to explain why "muggles" aren't flocking to the OSS freedom
[16:40] <snap-l> Twitter's audience knows what they want, and identi.ca / Diaspora / etc. don't yet have that
[16:40] <snap-l> and that's the folks they follow.
[16:41] <snap-l> "I want heated leather seats in my car" does not mean I want a heated waterbottle in my pants when I drive.
[16:42] <snap-l> No matter how efficient / portable that waterbottle may be over the seat warmers
[16:44] <snap-l> People couldn't care less about Facebook or Twitter as development platforms, they care more about who they can access.
[16:44] <snap-l> And why some people still log into AIM or Yahoo chat
[16:46]  * greg-g nods
[16:47] <snap-l> WHich was the genesis of the "Conversation without an audience is meaningless" debacle.
[16:53] <jrwren> the dreamhost dreamstore says they use ceph, that is the piece i want to run myself in our datacenter.
[17:12] <jcastro_> yeah they use ceph
[17:12] <jcastro_> and you can set up something similar to what they have
[17:15] <jrwren> yeah, I think i shall
[18:03] <jcastro_> http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/
[18:03] <jcastro_> I am doing a charity drive!
[18:03] <jcastro_> Any donations accepted!
[18:04] <jcastro_> I'm supporting music education in poor schools via littlekidsrock.org
[18:04] <jcastro_> snap-l, come on buddy, pony up
[18:04] <jcastro_> I can't lose to jono
[18:16] <snap-l> jcastro_: I will when the next check comes in
[19:44] <brousch> Is the Thinkpad x220 still a recommended laptop?
[19:51] <rick_h_> I've got the 230 and <3
[19:52] <brousch> I'm worried about downgrading to 1366x768
[19:52] <jrwren> its fine when you are on the go, and when you aren't, use an external display.
[19:53] <jrwren> and if you are on the go but need to settle in, use airdisplay and your ipad as a second monitor... oh wait...
[19:53] <brousch> I rarely use 2 monitors
[19:53] <jrwren> no dual display? wtf do you do?
[19:53] <brousch> workspaces are my thing
[19:53] <brousch> i have 10 workspaces
[19:54] <brousch> I can get 1600x900 on a thinkpad T420
[19:54] <jrwren> yeah, but its HUGE.  14" is way to big.
[19:55] <jrwren> if you go T420, at least go T420s
[19:55] <jrwren> 1440x900 would be a lot nicer on that small screen though.
[19:56] <jrwren> how often do you buy?
[19:56] <jrwren> IMO its a terrible time to buy.
[19:56] <jrwren> in 6mo to 1yr apple will put retina on mac book air, and then 6mo after that everyone else will be catching up.
[19:57] <brousch> I bought this one 4 years ago, and the MBP 2 years ago
[19:57] <brousch> So I guess every 2 years I buy something that's 2 years old
[19:57] <jrwren> so the next year or so will be a notebook display revolution IMO
[19:58] <brousch> 1280x800 on the MBP annoys me
[19:58] <brousch> I think 768 does not suit my needs
[19:59] <brousch> I buy 2 year old laptops to minimize bleeding edge issues with linux
[20:34] <brousch> Wow Asus Zenbook UX21A 11.6" screen with 1920x1080
[20:53] <jrwren> 1280x800 on an MBP? my MBA is 1440x900, how did you get such a small display?
[20:54] <greg-g> brousch: btw, I hate the x220 display size. It's about 90% of the reason I'm using my x200s 100% of the time
[20:55] <brousch> jrwren: It's from mid 2009 13.3"
[20:55] <brousch> greg-g: x200s has more pixels?
[20:56] <brousch> oh man, max of 4GB RAM?
[20:56] <greg-g> my x200s actually has 8gigs in it, and it works, but that's the *real real* max
[20:57] <greg-g> brousch: and yeah, 1440x900 instead of the stupid 768 or whatever
[20:58] <greg-g> and I hate the new aspect ratio all laptops are going to :/
[20:58] <brousch> hm, no touchpad. seems like scrolling would be hard
[20:58] <greg-g> NIPPL!
[20:58] <greg-g> +E
[20:58] <brousch> i can't scroll with the nipple
[20:58] <greg-g> yeah you can
[20:58] <brousch> e?
[20:58] <greg-g> takes two fingers, just like it would on a touchpad
[20:59] <greg-g> thumb on middle 'mouse' button, and index finger on nipple
[20:59] <brousch> hm, doesn't work on my dell
[20:59] <greg-g> well, dells suck ;)
[21:00] <greg-g> actually, it may need a fix in your synaptics config, I remember it not working OOTB on all laptop in Ubuntu
[21:01] <brousch> I don't have a proper middle mouse button
[21:01] <greg-g> well then, I have no idea how you scroll on that with out a middle mouse button nor touchpad ;)
[21:02] <brousch> pg up/pg down
[21:03] <greg-g> I guess so, and space bar
[21:03] <greg-g> install Vimperator and use vim keybindings to scroll in Fx
[21:17] <rick_h_> logoff time, see you all in VA
[21:17]  * rick_h_ starts getting the twitches
[21:18] <greg-g> for?
[21:25] <jrwren> no two finger scrolling?
[23:48] <snap-l> evening