[00:00] <xxSn1p3rxx> thats the wave length of a 2.4 ghz wifi signal :P
[00:00] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, ill let you know in a moment
[00:01] <jonathan_> hello
[00:05] <the56ker-MouSe> returned no chroot environment found. starting normal installation an unsupported bcm4301, bcm4306 or bcm4306/2 device was found. use b43legacy firmware (firmware-b43legacy-installer.....
[00:05] <the56ker-MouSe> package) instead.
[00:05] <KillJoy> I wish OMGUBUNTU was on right now.  I really need to thank him/her for recommending playonlinux.
[00:07] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, that would make sense because i beleave i have BCM4306 if im not mistaken that sounds correct
[00:08] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, ahhh, yeah, legacy installer supports tho, fair enough
[00:09] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, used my brain just downloaded the installer after modifying the link you sent me before lets see what happens
[00:10] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, if you just go to packages.ubuntu.com you can search from there
[00:10] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, yeah i did it the lazy way but i have my next problem already
[00:11] <xxSn1p3rxx> btw... is efnet still alive ?
[00:12] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, the installer tries to download wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o  it cant with no internet access i already have that file in the same directory though
[00:12] <deww> xxSn1p3rxx: yes.
[00:12] <VlanZ> hey there... anyone using vmware under ubuntu?
[00:12] <Krambiorix> hi guys, since i rebooted my mail server, i can't connect via IMAP anymore, any ideas?
[00:13] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, ahh, that part im not sure i can help with, i've never used a b43 myself
[00:13] <shihan> VlanZ, yeah
[00:13] <xxSn1p3rxx> deww: you wouldnt know any servers would you? all i found was irc.servercentra.net ...
[00:13] <compdoc> Krambiorix, guess it depends on teh mail ser4ver package you have running
[00:13] <shihan> Krambiorix, what does your imap for you?
[00:13] <xxSn1p3rxx> *l
[00:14] <deww> xxSn1p3rxx: wrong channel for it, but check efnet.org, unofficial page.
[00:14] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, ahhh lol that package is already installed i believe is there a command line to edit the installer to read from the directory and install insteal of grabbing from the internet?
[00:14] <xxSn1p3rxx> kk tnx :)
[00:14] <Krambiorix> compdoc, dovecot
[00:14] <VlanZ> shihan: i'm just curious, when i run a VM, the RAM consumption of the host never changes no matter how many VM i power up
[00:15] <shihan> VlanZ, which vmware btw?
[00:15] <VlanZ> shihan: workstation
[00:15] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, not a clue unfortunately
[00:15] <shihan> VlanZ, yeah, thats what i use, where are you watching memory from?
[00:15] <Krambiorix> compdoc, i can't connect with telnet
[00:15] <Krambiorix> compdoc, could it be a firewall issue?
[00:16] <k4r1m> damn ubuntu, just deleted centrifydc after an update and I can no longer login to my machine >.<
[00:16] <compdoc> Krambiorix, there are times when an update will replace the old .conf file with a newer one. You might want to find the dovecot files, likelt in /etc/dovecot/ and look at the names of the files there. Im not familure with dovecot
[00:16] <VlanZ> shihan: system monitor, free -m, ANYTHING
[00:16] <rtcg> Well, I'm giving up on 10.04 audio.  It's too choppy.  Maybe I'll truy again later.
[00:16] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, is there a offline install FAQ possibly? i'll be right back also thank you for your help thus far greatly appreaciated
[00:17] <tsimpson> VlanZ: I'd assume vmware would reserve the memory just before starting up the VM, rather than allocating it bit by bit
[00:17] <shihan> VlanZ, watch top, you should see vmware-vmx process which reports its memory, it should change a bit for each vm
[00:17] <WeThePeople> how do i find out the free space amount on windows mounted disk?
[00:17] <Krambiorix> compdoc, all files have a last modified date in the past
[00:17] <escott> WeThePeople, df -h should say
[00:17] <compdoc> Krambiorix, how do you connect, from outside the lan?
[00:17] <shihan> Krambiorix, checp "ps -ef |grep imap" you should see some dovecot proc's
[00:18] <blackshirt> krambioric, if you can't telnet your imap,something goes wrong
[00:18] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, just having a look atm
[00:18] <Krambiorix> compdoc outside, but it tried telnet localhost 143 and can't connect
[00:18] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, no problem take your time
[00:18] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, have a look at this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[00:18] <Krambiorix> shihan, http://pastebin.com/yRx3f0KV
[00:19] <compdoc> Krambiorix, was the server using a static IP address? Sounds like it might have changed, so port forwarding no longer works
[00:19] <compdoc> Krambiorix, if thats true, its not recieving mail either
[00:19] <Krambiorix> compdoc, static ip, didn't change, cause i can login with ssh still
[00:19] <VlanZ> shihan: yeah, i can see that, but if i add up all the vm processes, i end up with a much larger amount compared to what free -m tells me
[00:19] <compdoc> oh, good
[00:20] <WeThePeople> will deleting windows and then reinstalling windows mess up the grub?
[00:20] <compdoc> Krambiorix, there is no default firewall enabled in Ubuntu
[00:20] <escott> WeThePeople, yes
[00:20] <shihan> VlanZ, well, depends on which column your looking at, res is the "memory im really using" column
[00:20] <compdoc> Krambiorix, can you telnet port 25 on the server?
[00:20] <mariusz_> hej
[00:21] <escott> VlanZ, it might be sharing pages between the VMs
[00:21] <Krambiorix> compdoc, iptables is running ... But i added iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s [my_ip] --dport 143 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEP
[00:21] <Krambiorix> compdoc yes, i can telnet 25 on localhost
[00:21] <compdoc> Krambiorix, but from the outside, is port 25 reaching the server?
[00:22] <Krambiorix> compdoc yes
[00:23] <VlanZ> shihan: at the moment i just have two VM running, one is 1.1G and the other is 1.0G.  But free -m only sees 1204Mb
[00:24] <k4r1m> is there anyway to print a user's password using root?
[00:24] <escott> k4r1m, no
[00:25] <k4r1m> escott :(
[00:25] <shihan> Krambiorix, by default (iirc) ubuntu only enables the ssl port for imap (993) and disables 143
[00:25] <tsimpson> k4r1m: passwords are stored using a one-way hashing algorithm, so you can't reverse that to get the password back. though root can change the password for any user
[00:26] <compdoc> Krambiorix, if you can ssh to it, what happens if you type in:  telnet 127.0.0.1 143
[00:26] <shihan> VlanZ, ahhh, vmware workstation can be quite tricky with the way it handles memory
[00:26] <shihan> :q!
[00:26] <shihan> oops
[00:26] <k4r1m> I just tried reseting but that doesn't seem to work either.. tells me user doesn't exist
[00:26] <VlanZ> shihan: might be a stupid question, but how do i exactly read this   Mem:         15936       5700      10235          0         76       4420
[00:26] <escott> k4r1m, what are you trying to do?
[00:27] <VlanZ> used 5.7G and cached 4.4G?
[00:27] <zack6849> Hey guys, how do I use the advanced partitioning tool, when I try to select my 150gb partition it says "no root file system is defined, please correct this In the partitioning menu"
[00:27] <escott> VlanZ, yes
[00:27] <shihan> VlanZ, yeah,
[00:27] <k4r1m> escott: my user on machine is an active directory user via centrifydc.. I ran an update and janitor and I believe it removed centrify. I can no longer log in.
[00:27] <VlanZ> bu why so much cached?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, you using the something other manual install option?
[00:28] <Krambiorix> compdoc, 993 works
[00:28] <zack6849> I used install with windows
[00:28] <zack6849> I'm on the desktop 12.04 lts
[00:28] <k4r1m> also my user doesn't exist inside passwd
[00:28] <escott> zack6849, in the installer you need to have a partition for which you specify the mountpoint as "/" any data on that partition will be deleted
[00:28] <shihan> VlanZ, linux tends to just chew up mem for cache by design, it wont erally impact anything if something needs memory
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, Can you be a little more clear on what you are doing ay least for me and be sure to use nicks. ;)
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> at*
[00:29] <escott> k4r1m, active directory is a windows thing... presumably you must be using some kind of ldap or samba connector to AD
[00:29] <zack6849> Well wilee, I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu
[00:29] <escott> k4r1m, but the user would not appear in /etc/passwd if it were an LDAP or AD account
[00:29] <k4r1m> escott: yeah centrifyDc
[00:29] <zack6849> And it gives me a few options in the installer
[00:30] <zack6849> Replace windows, install with windows, and something else
[00:30] <Skapare> shihan: worse, it frequently lags on starting writes to devices ... it just leaves what your program writes in that cache until a sync call
[00:30] <Eighteens> Hello, i'm trying to help my dad get m4v, and ogg files to work inside his browser, we are both on 10.04, it's working on mine, we both use chromium-browser, i forgot which plugin i installed to make this work, can someone give me the sudo apt-get install  plugin-name
[00:30] <escott> k4r1m, so if centrify was the interface to the AD server then you need to reinstall centrify
[00:30] <zack6849> I selected install with
[00:30] <VlanZ> shihan: however, assuming i'm running two VMs and i open line 20 firefox pages till i cap the 1.0G that i've allocated for that VM and the system monitor does show me that on the gest VM, how is it possible that i just see 1.2G on the host?
[00:31] <k4r1m> escott: well actually I think centrify is still here
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, A true dual boot is partitioned installs, the ubuntu install from windows is only a file in windows.
[00:31] <zack6849> And when I select the partition I want and hit install now, it says that a root file system isn't defined
[00:31] <zack6849> Wilee, I'm doing dual boot.
[00:31] <k4r1m> escott: adinfo says the machine is joined but centrifydc is down
[00:31] <zack6849> With partitions
[00:31] <i7c> BBBBBB/BBBBBBconditionally fatal and cause an exit with a nonzero exit; this applies to internal inconsistencies and some cases of running out of memory. All error messages are written to the standard error stream; normal output from executed commands is written to standard output.
[00:31] <i7c> sorry for that
[00:32] <escott> VlanZ, the 1.0GB limit on the VM memory is the limit on RAM, but the VM still has 2^32 or 2^64 addressable. so the VM might decide given its limited RAM that it wants to swap out the unused firefox pages
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, Are doing a manual install from the something else option on the live cd install?
[00:32] <zack6849> No, I'm doing install Ubuntu alongside windows
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, And how are you doing that?
[00:33] <xxSn1p3rxx> sorry perhaps out of topic but... anybody have knowhow on wifi cantennas ?
[00:33] <zack6849> It then gives me two sliders to splitnthe parfition I want
[00:33] <zack6849> But I didn't want it split
[00:33] <zack6849> I already sized it how I wished
[00:33] <zack6849> so iI hit advanced partitioning tool
[00:34] <escott> k4r1m, you'll have to find someone who knows more about this centrify program
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, If you were paying attention at the gui before that one there was a something else option, this is why I asked you that first.
[00:34] <k4r1m> how can I add a new user from the recovery shell? I tried using 'adduser' and proceeded to gdm and got a crash after login.
[00:34] <zack6849> Shohld I use the something else option?
[00:34] <VlanZ> escott: that's it i'm going to create a VM with 6GB of available ram, and then i'm running linpack on it. If i'm not seeing anything on the host i think i could break something
[00:34] <k4r1m> is there a special group or permission users need to have to run gnome desktop?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, Not sure to be honest we are not really communicating, so I can't help in good concious. ;)
[00:35] <zack6849> What is it you need to kniw wilee?
[00:35] <zack6849> *know
[00:35] <zack6849> apologies for typos, I'm on a phone
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> zack6849, I think the channel in general is your best help with the info you have given, someone can do it no biggie. ;)
[00:36] <WeThePeople> escott, so when windows is reinstalled will their be a dual boot menu
[00:36] <zack6849> Im sorry what
[00:36] <escott> k4r1m, you might try logging into the new user on tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1) then stopping your dm (sudo service gdm stop) and then startx
[00:37] <escott> !grub | WeThePeople follow the instructions here after windows overwrites the MBR
[00:38] <WeThePeople> escott, will ubuntu fs be ok
[00:38] <escott> WeThePeople, fs?
[00:38] <WeThePeople> filesyste
[00:38] <escott> VlanZ, why are you bothered by this?
[00:38] <WeThePeople> m
[00:38] <Eighteens> mp4 m4v ogg browser plugin for chromium on 10.04, which sudo command line do i use
[00:39] <zack6849> Can somone please help me?
[00:39] <escott> WeThePeople, for windows? no windows will need NTFS on its partition, but the windows installer will take care of making the windows filesystem just make sure you have a partition to install windows onto
[00:39] <bglazer> I used disper to extend my display to an external monitor. How do I now change the offset of the external display up 500 pixels?
[00:39] <IngElias> Hey guys I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 and xfce-desktop, sometimes my desktop wallpaper is changed to unity desktop wallpaper and icons desapears except the ones which are archives created by me
[00:39] <WeThePeople> eighteens, to install that plugin??
[00:39] <Eighteens> yes
[00:40] <zack6849> All I need to know is why the partitioner tool says that I haven't selected a root file system
[00:40] <WeThePeople> escott, will ubuntu be ok if grub goes
[00:40] <zack6849> How do I do this?
[00:40] <VlanX> aaaand of course the system crashed
[00:40] <VlanX> :(
[00:40] <escott> bglazer, xrandr could do that... not sure the exact incantation something like xrandr --output DVI-0 --pos 0x500 ...
[00:41] <Eighteens> WeThePeople, i have it working on mine, but i forgot what i did to make it work, trying to get it to work on my dads, we are on identical systems under 10.04
[00:41] <escott> WeThePeople, shouldn't affect the OS other than your need to reinstall grub onto the mbr
[00:41] <WeThePeople> eighteens, did you download it from a different site so it wont be automatically addes to chrome?
[00:41] <gimpy38> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?
[00:41] <VlanX> escott: maybe running xlinpack inside a VM is not a good idea :/
[00:41] <WeThePeople> escott, thanks
[00:42] <bglazer> Thanks escott, I was hoping there might be a solution that didn't involve xrandr but I'll look into it
[00:42] <zack6849> Ugh
[00:42] <usr13> zack6849: The partitioner tool tells you that you have not selected a root file system because you haven't.  You need a partition for / and for swap, at the very least, (two partitions).  If you designate one for /home/, that will be three;  /  and  /home/ and swap.  etc. etc. etc.
[00:42] <escott> bglazer, im sure there are some guis, but its all xrandr in the end
[00:43] <zack6849> Oh okay
[00:43] <zack6849> Thanks usr
[00:43] <usr13> zack6849: NP
[00:43] <zack6849> Usr, is there one that I should give momre memory too?
[00:44] <zack6849> Or should I make it even or what?
[00:44] <WeThePeople> eighteens, if you did that, find the file you downloaded open up the extensions page in chrome and drag and drop.. its that easy
[00:44] <usr13> zack6849: How much room do you have for the Ubuntu install (altogether)?
[00:44] <k4r1m> hmm that didn't work.. now "I'm getting account cannot be access this time, contact your system admin"
[00:44] <zack6849> About 200gb
[00:45] <usr13> zack6849: If you are going with / and /home/ and swap, I would suggest 20G for / and 6G for swap and the rest for /home/
[00:45] <k4r1m> loool I think my account is locked.
[00:45] <usr13> zack6849: How much RAM is in this system?
[00:45] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan, in that walk-through ../pool/main/p/patch
[00:45] <the56ker-MouSe> :/patch/$ sudo dpkg -i patch* does not exhist
[00:45] <Eighteens> WeThePeople, i think i used sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg  "but i didn't want to guess"
[00:46] <zack6849> Usr, it doesn't tell me what goes where
[00:46] <Eighteens> or sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[00:46] <zack6849> and its only one slider for splitting in half
[00:46] <WeThePeople> eighteens, you need to get those videos to play in chrome
[00:46] <usr13> zack6849: Sure it does.  / is root.  /home/ is home.   swap is swap
[00:47] <zack6849> No but look
[00:47] <zack6849> 1 sec
[00:47] <Eighteens> WeThePeople, actually i'm using chromium-browser
[00:47] <usr13> zack6849: I usually like to do it in this order:
[00:47] <Eighteens> very close to chrome tho
[00:47] <WeThePeople> eighteens, download 'ubuntu restricted extras' in soft center
[00:47] <WeThePeople> eighteens, yeah i know :)
[00:47] <Eighteens> WeThePeople, i had him do that, video still didn't play
[00:47] <usr13> zack6849: 8G for swap.   20G for /.   the rest for /home/
[00:48] <zack6849> Look usr
[00:48] <zack6849> http://db.tt/hIJzv0ou
[00:48] <WeThePeople> eighteens, sounds like something is conflicting
[00:48] <zack6849> It doesn't label them.
[00:48] <k4r1m> is an account lock feature in ubuntu after entering bad password too many times?
[00:48] <Eighteens> WeThePeople thanks for the help
[00:49] <escott> k4r1m, not by default, and since your account isn't a standard unix account anyways we are going to have to point you back to your AD server centrify configuration
[00:49] <zack6849> Usr13, see what I mean?
[00:50] <escott> k4r1m, you might want to try the #ubuntu-server channel they *might* know more about AD
[00:50] <the56ker-MouSe> shihan?
[00:51] <usr13> zack6849: What I see is that you have yet to create any partitions for Ubuntu.  Do you see where it says, "Allocate drive space by dragging the devider below."  And "use the advanced partitioning tool for more control"?
[00:51] <zack6849> Yep.
[00:52] <usr13> zack6849: Try clicking on "advanced partitioning tool".
[00:52] <zack6849> Now what
[00:52] <usr13> zack6849: (in other words, it was waiting for YOU to do something.
[00:52] <zack6849> I see my main partition (800gb NTFS)
[00:52] <zack6849> And the one I wanna install ubuntu on
[00:52] <zack6849> The 200gb one
[00:53] <jagginess> zack6849, and swap?
[00:53] <zack6849> What jagg?
[00:53] <jagginess> zack6849, swap partition (type 83)
[00:53] <usr13> zack6849: Yea, you need a swap partition too.
[00:53] <jagginess> or (type 82? :/)
[00:54] <zack6849> Can I resize the 200gb one and split it somehow?
[00:54] <xxSn1p3rxx> swap should be around the same ammount as your system ram
[00:54] <jagginess> zack6849, can use the end of it.. you should be fine with a gig swap
[00:54] <mmnicolas> xxSn1p3rxx: unless.. you have more than 1gb of ram
[00:54] <usr13> jagginess: Yea,  it's 82
[00:54] <zack6849> I don't know what's going on right now..
[00:55] <usr13> zack6849: Send another pic
[00:55] <zack6849> K
[00:55] <Domincii> hello, my fstab file won't let me alter it, how do I do it?
[00:55] <Domincii> Sorry, I'm new to this
[00:55] <bazhang> Domincii, what have you tried
[00:55] <xxSn1p3rxx> mmnicolas: yeah... i dont think i ever saw my swap being used... and i just have 2 gigs
[00:56] <escott> Domincii, "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[00:56] <zack6849> http://db.tt/4HDbzT3F
[00:56] <winux> How do I get the latest email header using the mail command?
[00:56] <Domincii> gksudo opens as admin then?
[00:56] <Domincii> thank you btw, it worked perfectly
[00:57] <usr13> zack6849: Choose  free space
[00:57] <zack6849> Then add?
[00:57] <usr13> Yep
[00:57] <zack6849> K now what
[00:58] <usr13> zack6849: 8G for swap.  20G for /  and the rest for /home/
[00:58] <xxSn1p3rxx> mmm.. usb wifi card + TV satellite dish = 10+ mile range. mmmm.... range...
[00:58] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, whic part are you up 2? it says something about not needing the patch if it doesnt exist
[00:58] <jagginess> no screw that.. he can just use "/" and "swap"..
[00:58] <Domincii> I was also told to change UID in fstab to 1000,default to stop those pesky error messages popping up due to lack of permission but I can't seem to fidn the part where it says UID 1000
[00:58] <zack6849> What is the size in ubuntu measured in?
[00:58] <zack6849> MB?
[00:59] <bazhang> Domincii, check with sudo blkid
[00:59] <Basstard`> zack6849: The wrong one.
[00:59] <bazhang> !blkid | Domincii
[00:59] <vankooch> Hi I'm tring to create a custom ubuntu iso. I'm using the mini iso from 12.04. I've tried to use a preseed file which is on the iso too, but I cann't load it. I've added file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed to my txt.cfg with no success
[00:59] <xxSn1p3rxx> zack: a standard install with 12.04 is around 2.5 gigs
[00:59] <usr13> jagginess: Come on, you know what MB and GB mean.
[00:59] <usr13> zack6849: Come on, you know what MB and GB mean.
[00:59] <blackshirt> thats big
[00:59] <xxSn1p3rxx> yeah
[00:59] <zack6849> It didn't say on the page, I was herping
[00:59] <zack6849> >_>
[01:00] <xxSn1p3rxx> my current linux box is... 50 mb :-)
[01:00] <xxSn1p3rxx> running entirely in RAM
[01:00] <usr13> zack6849: There are three decimal places difference
[01:00] <bazhang> !ot | xxSn1p3rxx
[01:00] <escott> Domincii, you would have to add that to the arguments to the mountpoint. what type of partition is this?
[01:00] <Basstard`> usr13: Base 2 or 10? SI or IEC?
[01:00] <xxSn1p3rxx> o. my bad
[01:01] <bazhang> Basstard`, is this really  helping?
[01:01] <zack6849> should I be setting these to logical or primary
[01:01] <escott> zack6849, ubuntu doesn't care
[01:01] <zack6849> K then
[01:01] <jagginess> zack6849, you can use minimal , "/" and "swap".. it's optional to you if you want a separate partition for /home ..
[01:01] <Basstard`> bazhang: It helps to be accurate, even in the question.
[01:01] <escott> zack6849, you are limited to 4 primaries, but you can use 1 primary to contain essentially unlimited numbers of logicals
[01:01] <usr13> zack6849:  What you will have is one primary with a couple logical partitions within that primary partition.
[01:02] <usr13> zack6849: So, Logical
[01:02] <zack6849> Usr, which do I install to?
[01:02] <jagginess> zack6849, best to stcik with gpt if you're using it, otherwise try to stick to 4 primary partitions
[01:02] <Kre10s> I need to start the restructed drivers manager from command line... whents the cmd name?
[01:02] <usr13> zack6849: All three.
[01:02] <jagginess> zack6849, (imho <=4 prim)
[01:02] <jrib> Kre10s: jockey-gtk or jockey-text
[01:02] <bazhang> Kre10s, jockey-gtk you mean?
[01:02] <zack6849> No but
[01:03] <usr13> zack6849: Send pic
[01:03] <zack6849> Usr, I'm supposed tto select one to.install.too
[01:03] <zack6849> K
[01:04] <zack6849> http://db.tt/FMui98XT
[01:05] <escott> zack6849, that looks good to me
[01:05] <zack6849> Yeah, but
[01:05] <zack6849> Which do I install bootloader to
[01:05] <usr13> zack6849: Looks good, you should be able to click install now.
[01:05] <Kre10s> bazhang, YEA
[01:05] <zack6849> Swap, /, ,/home?
[01:05] <escott> zack6849, thats correct as is. /dev/sda
[01:05] <zack6849> I assume /?
[01:05] <usr13> zack6849: You will install the bootloader to the MBR of that drive.
[01:06] <zack6849> ....
[01:06] <zack6849> Usr, did you click my image..
[01:06] <xxSn1p3rxx> may i post ubuntu related web links here?
[01:06] <escott> zack6849, the kernel and support files for boot will be in /boot folder on /dev/sda5
[01:06] <xxSn1p3rxx> mainly for zack...
[01:06] <usr13> zack6849: Yes
[01:06] <zack6849> It requests I select a device for bootloader install
[01:06] <bazhang> xxSn1p3rxx, about what
[01:06] <zack6849> Which do I select
[01:06] <jagginess> zack6849, /dev/sda
[01:07] <CreativeRound> Hello, Is it recommended to do a sudo do-release-upgrade  on ubuntu 9.1?
[01:07] <escott> zack6849, /dev/sda is correct. that dropbox at the bottom of the screen is showing the correct selection
[01:07] <zack6849> Herp
[01:07] <zack6849>  Fuuuuuuu
[01:07] <xxSn1p3rxx> its a manual partitioning guide for ubuntu 11...with screenshots.. could be helpful :-)
[01:07] <usr13> zack6849: click   Install Now
[01:07] <zack6849> I did
[01:07] <zack6849> Errir
[01:07] <escott> zack6849, /dev/sda in the context of the bootloader means the MBR of the disk known as /dev/sda
[01:07] <zack6849> *Error
[01:07] <CreativeRound> How do I upgrade from 9.10 to 11?  Is it recommended to do a sudo do-release-upgrade on ubuntu 9?
[01:08] <usr13> zack6849: What error?
[01:08] <jagginess> !upgrade
[01:08] <usr13> zack6849: send pic
[01:08] <zack6849> Some of the partitions you created are too small. Please make the following partitions at least this small "/2.4GB")
[01:08] <bazhang> !eolupgrades > CreativeRound
[01:08] <jrib> CreativeRound: I'd suggest you consider upgrading to 10.04 and then to 12.04 (since 10.04 and 12.04 are both LTS, you can skip the intermediate versions when upgrading)
[01:08] <usr13> zack6849: Oh, I see.   / is too small.
[01:09] <escott> zack6849, the partition for / is too small. that needs to be at least 10GB
[01:09] <vankooch> How do I add a preseed file to txt.cfg, I've tried all the vartions found on google with no success. file=/cdrom/preseed/public.seed and preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed/public.seed did not work.
[01:09] <xxSn1p3rxx> zack...
[01:09] <zack6849> Wat
[01:09] <usr13> zack6849: 2046MB is only 2G
[01:09] <xxSn1p3rxx> take a look at this guide... its well documented and has screenshots
[01:09] <xxSn1p3rxx> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/
[01:09] <zack6849> What do I set it to then
[01:09] <usr13> zack6849: So make it 20G (not 2G)
[01:09] <zack6849> lol, I failed
[01:10] <usr13> zack6849: delete /home
[01:10] <CreativeRound> what would you recommend for a web server version?
[01:10] <CreativeRound> 12.04?
[01:10] <usr13> zack6849: Then make / bigger
[01:10] <zack6849> I know
[01:10] <zack6849> Doin it
[01:10] <k4r1m> escott: After a little more digging it seem that I'm connected to my AD and I can log in fine from the recovery shell using "su username" but I can't login from gdm
[01:10] <bazhang> CreativeRound, LTS ? yes, thats five years of support
[01:10] <jagginess> zack6849, you can stick with 2 partitions (as i originally said--if you'd like), make it as big as you like and the other has to be at least 1 gig (i think 1 gig for swap is large enough)
[01:11] <escott> k4r1m, su username won't work because the user doesn't exist unless the AD service is working
[01:11] <k4r1m> escott: it did work
[01:11] <k4r1m> NVM IT'S WORKING :)))))
[01:11] <jagginess> zack6849, "/home" would exist on the "/" mount partition, if you decide to only use 2 partitions
[01:11] <k4r1m> i guess rejoining the vpn updated the cache
[01:11] <zack6849> Jagg, no offense but all you're doing is confusing me
[01:12] <jagginess> zack6849, well they're now telling you to do 2..
[01:12] <escott> k4r1m, think about about the stuff in /etc/passwd. that is *all* you need to create an account, so things like LDAP and AD can just provide the required information (password auth process, $HOME location, UID and GIDs) to the login process, but without them it says "I don't know how to set $HOME or how to set GID or UID
[01:12] <usr13> zack6849: Did you change it?
[01:12] <jagginess> zack6849, it's simply 2 partitions, one for ext4(which would host "/"), and the other is "swap"
[01:12] <zack6849> Yes usr
[01:12] <zack6849> Then I redid /home
[01:12] <zack6849> And am installing
[01:12] <usr13> zack6849: Good.
[01:13] <usr13> zack6849: How big was /home?
[01:13] <CreativeRound> how do I upgrade to 10.04?
[01:13] <zack6849> Errm
[01:13] <xxSn1p3rxx> normally... ubuntu makes 4 partitions... home, / (root), boot, and an optional 4th for general storage
[01:13] <zack6849> I forget
[01:13] <zack6849> I did 8gb swap and 20gb /
[01:13] <zack6849> Soo
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> AndrewX192, From?
[01:13] <zack6849> Like 172gb?
[01:14] <xxSn1p3rxx> zack how much RAM does your system have?
[01:14] <usr13> zack6849: Ok, goodl.  (If you ever re-install, you will be glad you have separate /home/ partition.)
[01:14] <zack6849> 12gb
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> xxSn1p3rxx, Ubuntu will make two partition only unless you specify other wise / and swap
[01:14] <jagginess> usr13, a separate /home partition really has no gain at all.. unless you're hosting thousands of users on a dedicated san storage or something
[01:14] <usr13> zack6849: You mean 120GB ?
[01:14] <xxSn1p3rxx> ok then you really dont need a big swap...
[01:14] <zack6849> Sure
[01:14] <usr13> jagginess: Not true.
[01:15] <xxSn1p3rxx> you got more then enough there
[01:15] <zack6849> XD
[01:15] <Basstard`> If he wants to hibernate.
[01:15] <zack6849> I was told something called berg lookes better than grub
[01:15] <zack6849> What is it?
[01:15] <the56ker-MouSe> does anyone know how to get my wireless adapter showing in connections again? or did i screw it up that bad lol it still shows in terminal lspci but it doesnt show under settings>network> wireless is no longer there
[01:15] <usr13> zack6849: Just use grub
[01:16] <escott> zack6849, an unsupported bit of software that appears for less than 1 second during the boot
[01:16] <jagginess> usr13, well if you can show a link how much benefit it is, i'd be glad to look.. I've been using linux for many many years :).. Never seen any performance gain with it
[01:16] <xxSn1p3rxx> wilee-nilee: ah... so default is just home and ext ?
[01:16] <zack6849> Lol, okay wont use it then
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> the56ker-MouSe, You probably want to give a synopsis of what git you where you're at.
[01:16] <usr13> jagginess: I did not say there would be a performance gain.
[01:16] <zack6849> How do people make it to where their.terminal has a cool loga and stuff with ascii?
[01:16] <xxSn1p3rxx> er wait.. nm.
[01:17] <zack6849> Always been curious
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> xxSn1p3rxx, actually yeah it will wrap the swap in a a extended I have seen and a home, I always do manula installs so not sure on the extended being made.
[01:17] <the56ker-MouSe> wilee-nilee, i have been trying to get my wireless adapter to work firmware was missing and i did a couple of walk throughs to get it to work everything ended up smoothly working out but now i have no wireless settings and i still cant enable drivers from settings>additional drivers>
[01:18] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, what does rfkill list say
[01:18] <xxSn1p3rxx> wilee-nilee: is it viable to use FAT as extended for storage? or is there a security risk if its not a native linux partition?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> the56ker-MouSe, cool that should get you the help you need. ;)
[01:18] <the56ker-MouSe> wilee-nilee, BCM4306/2 adapter
[01:18] <CreativeRound> how do I upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> the56ker-MouSe, outside my pay range otherwise.
[01:18] <escott> xxSn1p3rxx, (a) doesn't support posix permissions (b) just a overall ****ty filesystem without journalling or large file support
[01:18] <usr13> CreativeRound: With AlternateCD or USB
[01:19] <jrib> CreativeRound: read the links ubottu gave you last time you asked
[01:19] <CreativeRound> ok thanks
[01:19] <CreativeRound> its an AWS server I'm updating
[01:19] <xxSn1p3rxx> escott: hah... i guess the only plus side is the interoperability with windows...
[01:19] <jagginess> CreativeRound, you're asking this for like the 3rd time.. why not just download 12.04? (also read the message ubottu gave on !upgrade)
[01:19] <escott> xxSn1p3rxx, but you certainly could use it for data files (dont use it for $HOME or anything user sensitive)
[01:20] <escott> xxSn1p3rxx, probably better off using NTFS-3g for interop
[01:20] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, (rfkill list) returns nothing
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> CreativeRound, I would just install 12.04 and get the 5 years coverage if it was me.
[01:20] <usr13> jagginess: Maybe he just wants 10.04?
[01:20] <xxSn1p3rxx> escott: ah... yeah ill go ntfs then.
[01:20] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, sounds like the kernel drivers aren't even loaded then
[01:20] <CreativeRound> thats what I'm going to do wilee
[01:20] <CreativeRound> what does that provide me?   support?
[01:21] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, possbily im typing the command wrong?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> CreativeRound, It wont go end of life for one and yes support here.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> not for five years anyway.
[01:21] <WeThePeople> what does the last part mean the 'image'>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1227721/
[01:21] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, it would just be "rfkill list" if you were typing it wrong you would probably get some kind of error message
[01:22] <the56ker-MouSe> ok yes just returns to command
[01:22] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, what kind of wireless card do you have
[01:22] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, broadcom BCM4306/2
[01:23] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, have you followed the !broadcom instructions to install the drivers?
[01:23] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, i currently have no active internet connection on the laptop either
[01:23] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, to my knowledge i have followed the offline instructions if you can provide me a link i can double check to see if ive already tried it lol
[01:24] <escott> !broadcom | the56ker-MouSe
[01:24] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, yes i just did all of that no errors everything went smooth
[01:26] <the56ker-MouSe> escott, i believe last night i di the ndiswrapper guide and that mite possibly be what made my adapter disapear last night i started with no firmware installed but the adapter was there now everything installed smoothly and the adapter never came back but it shows in lspci still
[01:26] <superfake123> when I set 'Auto-hide the Launcher' to 'On' it does not ever reveal again D: How can I fix?
[01:27] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: Did you get the firmware installed?
[01:28] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, following the broadcom b43xx guide everything installed smoothly
[01:28] <escott> the56ker-MouSe, lspci just shows that the hardware exists, but it doesn't mean the OS knows anything about it. you need to load the drivers
[01:28] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe:  Ok then, issue command iwconfig  #See what it says.
[01:29] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, it iwconfig returned no wireless extensions
[01:30] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, escott, like i said it was there last night before i tried the ndiswrapper guide and now its not ;_;
[01:30] <SparkyFlary> what's the difference between ubuntu server and debian?
[01:30] <escott> SparkyFlary, one is ubuntu the other is debian
[01:30] <eroach101> - -
[01:31] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, escott, i believe i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper and another guide
[01:31] <SparkyFlary> besides the names..
[01:31] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: sudo ndiswrapper -l
[01:31] <escott> SparkyFlary, traditionally ubuntu takes debian testing, freezes packages for a few months and bug fixes so ubuntu is approximately debian testing lagged a few months, but thats not set in stone
[01:32] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: sudo ndiswrapper -l  #This command will show the currently installed drivers.
[01:32] <SparkyFlary> what about the server edition
[01:33] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, thats the guide i followed last night its today i did the other guide that i probably should have done first
[01:33] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe:  Do you have the inf file?
[01:33] <escott> SparkyFlary, what about it. its a different set of packages more appropriate for a server install
[01:33] <SparkyFlary> why would they make a sever edition if debian does just that?
[01:33] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, it returned bcmwl5 annd bcmwl5a drivers installed
[01:34] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: Good.  Now go back to the guide and take it up from there. Finish the process.
[01:34] <escott> SparkyFlary, because some people want to run ubuntu. debian includes all the gui programs if you want them
[01:34] <rickbol> since we're on the subject: bcm4311... how to?
[01:34] <SparkyFlary> i don't want gui
[01:34] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, i also did this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766560
[01:35] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: Which one is yours?  What is your wireless device?
[01:35] <escott> SparkyFlary, ubuntu is to debian as scientific linux is to rhel, with the exception that ubuntu doesn't target debian compatibility to the same extent that scientific would to rhel
[01:35] <the56ker-MouSe> usr12 my is bcm4306/2
[01:36] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, ** i did this guide today it went smooth https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:36] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: So you are down to step 3
[01:36] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, your saying i should continue the ndiswrapper guide and try it agian?
[01:36] <escott> SparkyFlary, you can start from ubuntu-minimal and then install whatever programs/ubuntu flavor you want
[01:36] <jrib> SparkyFlary: probably the biggest differences imo are canonical supporting ubuntu and the release cycles
[01:36] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: Did you do  "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[01:37] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, i did all 3 guides that i linked you 2 last night and 1 today
[01:37] <blackshirt1> SparkyFlary: escot was right, you can play with ubuntu-minimal and build grow up your system do you like
[01:37] <SparkyFlary> so ubuntu server might have more features and might be better for me compared to debian?
[01:38] <escott> !best | SparkyFlary
[01:38] <jrib> SparkyFlary: have you said what you want to do exactly yet?
[01:38] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: Wait a minute. Do you see the date on these instructions?  "2008"  3 years old!
[01:38] <escott> SparkyFlary, if you are familiar with the ubuntu init (upstart) and like the ubuntu release cycle, then you would probably like ubuntu-server over debian
[01:38] <SparkyFlary> yeah, I'll be using it as a vps
[01:38] <TaylorBaby1985> www.quickcollegehookups.com is accepting 45 more free accounts!
[01:38] <jrib> usr13: we're in 2012 ;)
[01:38] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, what link lol
[01:39] <usr13> jrib: 4 Years old!  Ok thanks.
[01:39] <blackshirt1> SparkyFlary: I think that was a relative thing :D
[01:39] <the56ker-MouSe> usr13, it seemed to work smoothly the bcm43xx guide today
[01:39] <escott> SparkyFlary, otherwise at the level of core server applications you probably won't find much of a difference between the two
[01:40] <usr13> the56ker-MouSe: See my PM
[01:40] <hallgrimur> hello
[01:40] <bisi> Hi!
[01:41] <hallgrimur> #ruby
[01:41] <hallgrimur> j #ruby
[01:43] <c2tarun> my idle laptop screen is going black in just 35 seconds :( I disabled it from every where. but when I open vlc it is working fine :(
[01:43] <rickbol> where is "System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers" in 12.04
[01:43] <c2tarun> I have kubuntu and I disable all the factors that can turn off screen :(
[01:44] <c2tarun> rickbol: type jockey after pressing meta key
[01:44] <bglazer> escott: I tried xrandr and it only detects one display. The size is the combined size of the two displays.
[01:44] <escott> bglazer, nvidia?
[01:44] <bglazer> Yep
[01:44] <escott> bglazer, goodluck
[01:45] <bglazer> Haha thanks. Nothing but problems with nv
[01:46] <jrib> bglazer: you're using nvidia or nv for the driver?
[01:46] <bglazer> Sorry, it's the proprietary nvidia
[01:46] <bglazer> drivers
[01:46] <xcervo> hello guys just wast to ask if know some irc channels for android support?
[01:46] <Sokel> wut
[01:46] <jrib> bglazer: have you tried just messing around with nvidia-settings?
[01:46] <jrib> xcervo: maybe #android?
[01:47] <bglazer> Yeah I was looking for a scripted solution.
[01:47] <bglazer> I can't get nvidia-settings to do it from the command line
[01:47] <jrib> bglazer: to do what exactly (I missed your original question)?
[01:47] <ClientAlive> I'm kind of curius: If I'm running x window server on both my laptop and desktop, and I have ssh on both (so that I'm able to connect to my desktop from my laptop over ssh) - can't I make whatever is/ or would display on the desktop's screen show up on my laptop's screen? What I mean is to just have x on the desktop pipe over through ssh to my laptop. I know about vnc but I wonder if this can be done.
[01:47] <superfake123> when I set 'Auto-hide the Launcher' to 'On' it does not ever reveal again D: How can I fix?
[01:48] <bglazer> jrib: I've got a second monitor that I've extended my display onto using disper. I would like to move the the second display down by 500 pixels.
[01:48] <rickbol> c2tarun, meta key? ALT or CTRL? jockey in a terminal = "cmd  not found"
[01:48] <xcervo> jrib, i cant access there
[01:48] <c2tarun> ohh... the that have windows symbol over it.
[01:49] <jrib> !register | xcervo
[01:49] <escott> ClientAlive, you can ssh -X and then run gui application and they will appear on the local display but the application is running on the other machine. migrating X applications from one display to another usually requires another X server in the middle to provide a virtual display and usually breaks acceleration
[01:49] <c2tarun> rickbol: ^
[01:49] <jrib> xcervo: after you register and identify, you will be able to join #android
[01:49] <c2tarun> rickbol: ohh... the that have windows symbol over it.
[01:50] <xcervo> thanks jrib
[01:50] <jrib> bglazer: I see; and you need to have it scripted somehow?
[01:51] <bglazer> jrib: Yes, the nvidia-settings GUI is a hassle.
[01:51] <ClientAlive> escott: What you said first I think is it. I have a programming project on the desktop but have no physical access to it right now. I don't want to copy the files over and modify them since I use revision control (afraid to freak mercurial out). So I'd like to use ssh to just run a gui app on the desktop but see it and control it here on my laptop.
[01:52] <escott> ClientAlive, afraid to freak out mercurial??!?!?!?!?!?! its a distributed VCS thats the whole point
[01:52] <bglazer> ClientAlive: Couldn't you just clone the project?
[01:52] <ClientAlive> escott: idk, I don't really know how to use it very well and it's the program I need to work on right now (not learning mercurial)  :)
[01:52] <jrib> bglazer: right, disper is the only thing I know about.  I think you can pass something like --load-config-file to nvidia-settings (and you could create the config file by saving your settings after using the gui one time).  But I've never used nvidia-settings this way and I've only used disper to do something very simple
[01:53] <nicko_> Is this a bug.? drag selecting on Libreoffice writer on Ubuntu 12.10 cancels out after selecting many words?
[01:53] <jrib> !12.10 | nicko_
[01:54] <ClientAlive> If I could learn what a clone does without having to spend more than 10 min reading about it I'd do that but I'm pressed for time and need to work on the program (you should see my calendar right now)  :)
[01:54] <escott> ClientAlive, should just be: hg clone ssh://server:~/path/to/archive, then make your edits and then add the remote spec to the .hgrc so you can hg pull remote
[01:54] <jrib> ClientAlive: I'm sure there's some quick intro to mercurial you could read.  What's the point of using it if you aren't actually /using/ it
[01:54] <rickbol> c2tarun, no jockey. no result from meta-key. ther exist a "/usr/share/jockey/jockey-backend"
[01:55] <ClientAlive> escott: remote spec?
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> nicko_, here is the bug and you want #ubuntu+1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1051121
[01:55] <ClientAlive> and what happens when you clone? What does it do?
[01:55] <bglazer> jrib: I've tried doing that to no effect. I don't think it supports hot plugging a new config file in like that. Thanks though.
[01:55] <c2tarun> rickbol: which distro are you using?
[01:55] <escott> ClientAlive, a clone just copies the whole shebang history and all. the only thing you have to do after that is tell the system you cloned from about the new clone you created (the clone tracks the parent, but the parent does not automatically track the clone)
[01:55] <ClientAlive> jrib: I hate to say - you've got a point  :)
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> ClientAlive, it is a exact image that can be reinstalled.
[01:56] <nicko_> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:56] <rickbol> ubuntustudio (xfce)
[01:56] <rickbol> c2tarun: 12.04
[01:56] <escott> ClientAlive, im sure there is a mercurial channel... i use git so i don't know the exact commands, they can walk you through it in a few seconds
[01:56] <c2tarun> rickbol: ohh... my bad, I thought you are using ubuntu 12.04, just give me a second
[01:57] <rickbol> c2tarun: I am. Ubuntustudio 12.04 lte (xfce)
[01:57] <c2tarun> rickbol: do one thing, type jocke in terminal and then press tab, you'll get all the available options.
[01:57] <c2tarun> rickbol: mine is jockey-kde, yours must me something similar
[01:58] <ClientAlive> escott: Yes, there is a mercurial channel but I think you just about gave me all I need already. The only other thing I wonder is if it's equivalent to clone from the desktop to my laptop, do my work, do my commit, then clone from the laptop to the desktop (once I get back to the desktop) - now that I could handle, if it's equivalent.
[01:59] <rickbol> c2tarun: mine is jockey-gtk
[01:59] <c2tarun> rickbol: good :)
[02:00] <Sn0op2> can someone please help me. I need to get something done for school and the application wont start up on my windows laptop or my ubuntu laptop. on my netbook, however, it does work but the screen is too small so when it opens it is huge and i cant do my homework on it. on the netbook it asks me before loading if i want to run the application and there is a java logo in it, if this helps.
[02:00] <escott> ClientAlive, when you clone desktop -> laptop, then laptop should have an entry in .hgrc for the path to desktop, when you clone back laptop->desktop you would get a brand new copy on the desktop (not what you want) rather you would modify the .hgrc in desktop to reference laptop so you can hg pull. think of clone as being "hg init + setup hgrc to pull in one direction only + hg pull". so going backwards you have done the first bit you
[02:00] <escott>  just need to do the second
[02:01] <escott> ClientAlive, the only thing i dont know about hg is how it handles branches in that case. with git you have to specify the branch to pull to, hg might create a branch whenever you pull/clone so you might have to merge or something
[02:01] <rickbol> Jockey claims I'm running Broadcom STA, but no wireless options show up under the net manager in notification area (xfce)
[02:02] <Sn0op2> I can give more information so please help if you can I would really appreciate it
[02:02] <escott> ClientAlive, http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/QuickStart#Clone.2C_commit.2C_merge
[02:02] <hashpuppy> i have some upstart script that keeps failing and i don't know why.  would this be logged anywhere?
[02:02] <hashpuppy> failing as in… it starts and then stop
[02:02] <ClientAlive> escott: oh, there are no branches to this (very tiny repo with like 5 files - all linear/ no branches)
[02:02] <hashpuppy> oh
[02:02] <hashpuppy> Syntax error: newline unexpected
[02:02] <ClientAlive> escott: thanks
[02:03] <escott> ClientAlive, you might end up with a branch with hg. it does some "automatic branch creation" in certain situations
[02:03] <ClientAlive> ahh, I see...  :)
[02:04] <escott> ClientAlive, in some sense a clone is a branch, its just not on the same computer (or in the same folder)
[02:04] <Snowie> Evening all. feels like forever since i was here. Hope all is well and everyone is excited for 12.10. can anyone tell me how to stop the dash showing pr0n even when the folder containing all the files is hidden? cheers
[02:04] <ClientAlive> escott: what would be wrong with pull/push?
[02:04] <escott> ClientAlive, and a pull just syncs the DAGs such that you have might have multiple leaf nodes corresponding to the branches that were in different clones
[02:05] <blackshirt1> hashpuppy: that's a bad error, check agains your script
[02:05] <Sn0op2> I have a question, I have Thawte CA certificate installed on my windows netbook in order to run an application for school. Can I install this on ubuntu somehow so I can run the application from ubuntu laptop??
[02:05] <ClientAlive> escott: I see
[02:05] <escott> ClientAlive, push is usually discouraged (at least with git) unless the repo is a bare repo (no work directories) because when you push its not clear how to handle any uncommitted changes in the remote
[02:06] <ClientAlive> hmm...
[02:07] <ClientAlive> escott: well, looks like I need to quit putting it off and learn how to really use the thing  :) I had only worked on one machine with it for so long. Now I have that second computer and bounce back and forth between them.
[02:08] <Nautilus> Hi's. In my ubuntu 10.04 the hosts file has this line "ff02::3 ip6-allhosts", but in my fresh install of 12.04 that line isn't there.  All I know is that it has to do with ip6 ... anyone know what it does / if I want it?
[02:08] <us> hello everybody.. I am having an issue... I cant acces to my session... I star the computer after i put the password It get frozen... I tried to fix using fsck and I get this message.../dev/sda7: superbloque lasta mount time is in the future (by less than a day probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set) fixed... and then I cant access one more time
[02:08] <Snowie> Sn0op2, does the application even run on ubuntu?
[02:08] <Sn0op2> never, it didnt work on windows either, i had to install the certificate. but can i do that on ubuntu?
[02:08] <escott> ClientAlive, when you pull in git you say "git pull remote branchname" and it downloads the remote HEAD and merges it to branchname. hg should have something similar, but worst case you hg pull remote and end up with a branch that is something like remote/branchname and then have to hg merge remote/branchname localbranchname
[02:09] <escott> ClientAlive, its well worth learning enough to get a basic workflow going
[02:09] <Snowie> Sn0op2, what i mean is, it runs on windows with the certificate, but im asking if the application itself, whatever it is, would run on ubuntu at all, certificate or not
[02:10] <escott> ClientAlive, for a single developer you really only need like 3 commands... its just a matter of knowing what they are and running them in the correct order
[02:10] <Snowie> Sn0op2, is it in the browser or something
[02:10] <ClientAlive> escott: for sure. Well, by this point I'll be back at the desktop soon anyhow; but, in the future, it would be nice to know.
[02:10] <us> hello everybody.. I am having an issue... I cant acces to my session... I star the computer after i put the password It get frozen... I tried to fix using fsck and I get this message.../dev/sda7: superbloque lasta mount time is in the future (by less than a day probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set) fixed... and then I cant access one more time
[02:10] <escott> Nautilus, it should be there in 12.04. not sure why it would, but its establishing the ipv6 broadcast ip address
[02:11] <Sn0op2> snowie, it is online but i dont think you would be able to access it because you have to be logged into my school account.
[02:11] <Sn0op2> Snowie, yes it is in the firefox browser still
[02:11] <ClientAlive> peace out fellas...
[02:11] <escott> ClientAlive, the other reason to clone is its a free backup :)
[02:11] <ClientAlive> right
[02:11] <Sn0op2> it just says loading module but it never does anything after that.
[02:12]  * Fyodorovna thinks martha stewart would say "clning is a good thing"
[02:13] <Snowie> Sn0op2, i dont want to access it. ok, so if you have firefox, the certificate is part of the browser config i believe. try google adding a certificate to firefox on linux.
[02:13] <Snowie> scuse paste sorry To import a certificate into your browser:
[02:13] <Snowie> For Firefox:
[02:13] <Snowie> Linux: open Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Certificates -> Manage Certificates
[02:14] <Snowie> So noone can give me advice on how to stop "hidden files :)" showing up in dash when searching?
[02:15] <us> hello everybody.. I am having an issue... I cant acces to my session... I star the computer after i put the password It get frozen... I tried to fix using fsck and I get this message.../dev/sda7: superbloque lasta mount time is in the future (by less than a day probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set) fixed... and then I cant access one more time
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Snowie, turn off show hidden files in nautilus I would suspect.
[02:15] <us> sorry for interrupting
[02:15] <escott> us, can you login to the tty "ctrl-alt-f1"
[02:16] <Snowie> us, i think it's more likely corrupted desktop session. try starting ubuntu in one of the alternate modes from the login screen (Gnome/classic) and test.
[02:16] <us> unfortunatly I am using windows not ubuntu... but I could try
[02:17] <escott> us, and how frozen is it? does the capslock or numlock key cause the capslock or numlock light to light up?
[02:17] <Snowie> ahhh, so if i have need to see hidden files and turn this on, and then turn it off, it should stop showing up. OK, that makes sense.
[02:17] <us> nop... I cant use anything, and nothing else works
[02:17] <bkovacs> I went to a local Apple store and I noticed that OSX runs very fast compared to my system. Why does OSX seem to run allot faster than Ubuntu on my Intel i5 8GB system?. Is it the hard drive they are using, Are they using a Xeon processor, just curious.
[02:17] <escott> us, things that would help to know are (a) does the capslock light come on when you press the capslock, if it does its not really frozen (b) does ctrl-alt-f1 take you to a tty (c) can you successfully reboot with REISUB
[02:17] <escott> !sysrq | us
[02:18] <Nautilus> escott: yea, i dont understand why it isnt there in 12.04.  I have 5 other ip6 lines but in 10.04 there is this sixth
[02:18] <escott> Nautilus, they probably just took out that broadcast host then. i thought you were saying none of your ipv6 addresses were there
[02:18] <Snowie> bkovacs, it's an os desinged specifically for a piece of VERY efficient hardware to run that single OS. that's why
[02:19] <escott> bkovacs, OSX is faster on different hardware?
[02:19] <Nautilus> escott: do you think I should leave it out?
[02:19] <bkovacs> Can Ubuntu or any Linux distro be made to run that efficent.
[02:19] <us> ok.. I dont know as much as you know but I will try and see what happend... Thanks... copying and pasting now to try...
[02:19] <escott> Nautilus, unless you need that particular broadcast host i would imagine they removed it for a reason
[02:20] <blackshirt1> bkovacs: I think yes ..
[02:20] <Nautilus> ok, thanks!
[02:20] <escott> bkovacs, almost all supercomputers run linux of some sort so... yes
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Snowie, If you want to see hidden files in the future just ctrl-h
[02:20] <Snowie> bkovacs, if a team sat down and tuned the os and the hardware for about (um... how many evolutions of mac have there been?) 30-40yrs, then probably
[02:21] <us> by the way... any light turns when I press caps lock
[02:21] <us> turns on
[02:21] <us> sorry
[02:21] <Snowie> wilee-nilee, yeah, thanks mate. makes complete sense now. one of those things you dont even think of til someone points out the obvious
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:22] <bkovacs> True but how can you make the Ubuntu desktop run that efficent.
[02:22] <escott> us, the capslock, numlock buttons are tied at a relatively low level to those keyboard lights, so even if the screen is non-responsive those lights might be responsive telling you the system is still running, just the way you interact with it has crashed
[02:22] <Spamicles> I used compiz config to enable opacity. desktop freaked out a little bit so I restored to default settings. now unity disappeared. i managed to get unity back but now everything is behaving really weird. how do i actually restore to default settings?
[02:22] <mmnicolas> ...never seen any mac being "faster" than my linux desktops
[02:23] <escott> us, hopefully you know what lights im referring to
[02:23] <SilverSlimer> mac is slow
[02:23] <us> yes
[02:23] <SilverSlimer> it doesn't matter how fast your processor is
[02:23] <SilverSlimer> the os always feels bloated
[02:23] <escott> us, on a laptop the little ones probably at the front of the case, on a keyboard usually on the upper right hand of the keyboard
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> Spamicles, you can reset the whole desktop stock with alt-f2 the unityi --reset
[02:23] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html Spamicles
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> unity -reset  sorry Spamicles
[02:23] <xangua> wilee-nilee: that only reset the unity icons
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> unity --reset   Doh.
[02:24] <escott> bkovacs, you really have to define efficient, and what it is about the OSX experience that makes you say it was faster
[02:24] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, my Chrome tabs aren't behaving properly in Unity. They won't stick to any other Chrome window and it's really troublesome. How do I fix this?
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> xangua, Ah I thought it reset compiz as well then it is on to compiz --replace
[02:24] <escott> bkovacs, many times people say "faster" when they really mean "lower latency"
[02:24] <Snowie> bkovacs, i think what we're all getting at is you would need a group of people who all know exactly what they need to do to tune ubuntu for one, and only one, bench top piece of hardware. which is why it works on supercomputers so well. As for you doing it, try a masters degree in systems engineering ;) sorry, just the truth
[02:24] <us> thanks!!! escott.. I am going to try now..
[02:25] <escott> bkovacs, was this even the same hardware... you said this was a machine in the apple store... so if its not the same hardware...
[02:25] <bkovacs> Just seemed like when the tech was showing me some applications the application loaded very fast, almost instant.
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Spamicles, alt f2 compiz --replace should reset it
[02:25] <escott> bkovacs, probably because the programs had already been loaded and were sitting in ram ready to go
[02:25] <EpicCyndaquil> My config file for weechat disappeared when I lost power on my server, but my log files are intact. What happened?
[02:26] <Snowie> escott, yup
[02:26] <Spamicles> wilee-nilee, xangua, the unity --reset seems to have brought back the correct window behavior. do i need to do anything else to make sure everything doesnt disappear again?
[02:26] <mmnicolas> bkovacs: he probably makes the same demo to every customer every 2 minutes, try opening libreoffice 12 times in a row, I bet the last 11 times will be instant
[02:26] <bkovacs> Is  there graphics  better than compiz.
[02:26] <escott> bkovacs, go back there and ask him to powerdown the system and turn it back on. then you will see how long it really takes to load an application. in addition that thing probably has an SSD which helps a LOT
[02:27] <denebeim> I've got a really weird issue with apt-get anyone up to discuss this?
[02:27] <bkovacs> Could be he was running an ssd
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Spamicles, compiz is a bit tempermental have a restrt like desktop icon running the fusion icon will restrt it when tweaking
[02:27] <Domincii> mmnicolas
[02:27] <kriskropd> !ask
[02:28] <DeltaHeavy> bkovacs: Linux is far more lightweight and faster than Windows or OS X as fact. I can't speak much for Unity personally but look at DE's like XFCE, KDE, GNOME
[02:28] <Snowie> yeah, read a really convincing article recently that had SSD as the BEST thing you can do for your pc, even if it is small and unreliable. just need to get the os and most used apps onto it, and the benchtests were ridiculous
[02:29] <bkovacs> OSX is not a light weight, but they get it to run as though it was.
[02:29] <Skapare> DeltaHeavy: I like Xfce/Xubuntu myself
[02:29] <DeltaHeavy> bkovacs: Yeah, I have a 40GB SSD and it's faster than anything. Did the computer have an SSD in it? Unless the hardware was the same it's incomparable.
[02:29] <Skapare> DeltaHeavy: is it as fast as RAM?
[02:30] <DeltaHeavy> Skapare: I don't think so no.
[02:30] <denebeim> apt-get is failing to find packages and is complaining about not finding i386 versions of the packages although it's an amd64 system.  I've upgraded this system from 10.04lts.  The ones I've installed originally with 12.04 are not having the problem.
[02:30] <DeltaHeavy> On Windows 7 64-bit I can load every game I've played so far in mere seconds. Less than a 10th of the time EASILY.
[02:30] <Snowie> Skapare, nah, but it's more  comparable to ram speed than spinning hdd speed is what i have been lead to believe
[02:30] <Skapare> DeltaHeavy: I've been wanting to load everything into RAM and run it from there ... when I get my new 64 GB box
[02:30] <DeltaHeavy> I don't have time to quickly read what Skyrim loading screens are telling me.
[02:30] <racsminilaptop> Hey I could loggin!       I am Us
[02:31] <DeltaHeavy> Skapare: That would be bad ass
[02:31] <bkovacs> I'll have to ask him, the next time I go in. But Apple techs never like to talk tech stuff, because Apple is all secretive. I asked him to open the terminal. and he though I was trying to hack OSX. No joke.
[02:31] <Skapare> DeltaHeavy: yeah ... as soon as the bank account can handle it ... close
[02:31] <racsminilaptop> I am using now gnome classic
[02:31] <Snowie> Skapare, 64G!!!! what are you doing with that thing?
[02:31] <denebeim> my google fu is weak, I've been poking around trying to find an answer to this for a couple of hours.
[02:31] <xangua> !ot | DeltaHeavy Skapare bkovacs
[02:31] <zerowaitstate> yeah, my sister gets all jumpy when I open the term on her laptop too
[02:31] <Skapare> Snowie: dreaming of it for now ... soon
[02:31] <racsminilaptop> How do I fix the ubuntu session???
[02:32] <bkovacs> Ok!
[02:32] <iFlip> bkovacs: I'm a mac user and some people are just paranoid
[02:32] <Snowie> racsminilaptop, WIN!!! so yeah, you should be able to fix it by setting unity back to defaults. have you been experimenting with themes etc?
[02:32] <escott> denebeim, 12.04 has something called multiarch so i386 packages can be installed on an amd64 system
[02:32] <racsminilaptop> yes
[02:33] <DeltaHeavy> Is there a channel where I can ask Unity related questions? Still having problems with Chrome tabs
[02:33] <Snowie> bkovacs, "Genius" ;)
[02:33] <racsminilaptop> How do i  set up unity as default??
[02:33] <racsminilaptop> one more time
[02:33] <denebeim> Yeah, I found that.  Tried installing it, didn't help.
[02:33] <escott> racsminilaptop, unity --reset?
[02:33] <Snowie> racsminilaptop, try http://askubuntu.com/questions/91928/how-to-restore-unity-3d
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> racsminilaptop, Whatever desktop that is running on shutdown or a reboot is the default
[02:34] <escott> denebeim, its not something you install. its just supported. i was suggesting it as a might be related to the problem you didnt clearly specify
[02:34] <DeltaHeavy> Imma give up on Unity. It can't manage tabs =/
[02:34] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, hang on a sec. let me test.
[02:35] <denebeim> Yeah I think that my issue is it's not finding the sources correctly and the i386 bit is a red herring.  I commented out the foreign architecture i386 in the dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch file, and it stopped flagging i386 as missing, it just is flat out not finding anything at all.
[02:36] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, ah, i see. When you drag them over the dock, focus wont switch. and even if there side by side, you can seperate, but not reattach. hmmmm..... anyone?
[02:36] <escott> !details | denebeim
[02:36] <denebeim> I copied the /etc/apt directory from the working system to the non-working system and there is no change, so I don't think it's a missing repository from sources.list
[02:36] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: Exactly what's happening here.
[02:36] <racsminilaptop> reading.....
[02:37] <denebeim> Here's the error, probably the rest should be obvious: smartmontools:i386 : Depends: libcap-ng0:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[02:37] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, it's broken. I've never had need to do it, so Ive never noticed it before. I guess i just dont browse that way
[02:38] <denebeim> I think this is a symptom of it not finding smartmontools at all (several other packages as well)
[02:38] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: I'm a web dev and often have many tabs open anyway. I make use of this feature a lot.
[02:38] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[02:38] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, someone smarter than me may be able to tell you if it's unity or chrome that you should report to, or if there is a fix, but i think its just usability
[02:38] <DeltaHeavy> I guess Unity is just unusable for my needs.
[02:38] <denebeim> the same command works fine on the working system.
[02:38]  * daslinkard has a friend who cannot get his wired ethernet connection to work.
[02:38]  * daslinkard wonders if anyone can help me
[02:39] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: It's the same package they shove out for ever Ubuntu DE. Pretty sure it's Unity.
[02:39] <escott> denebeim, you copied /etc/apt from a working system... what was the "working" system running?
[02:39] <megamanx1978> I downloaded my humble bundle 6 games from the software center and they will not start
[02:39] <denebeim> exactly the same thing.
[02:39] <denebeim> 12.04
[02:39] <kriskropd> denebeim: was it also 64 bit architecture?
[02:39] <denebeim> the only difference is the working system was installed and the non-working system was upgraded from 10.04 lts
[02:40] <EnderTheThird> Anyone else have issues with the mouse pointer being too large in Ubuntu?  It's a different size/aspect compared to what it's supposed to be.
[02:40] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, you could make your case to the unity devs
[02:40] <RobbyF> EnderTheThird, nope
[02:40]  * daslinkard jumping up and down for someone to help.
[02:40] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: Is there a place I can report to them?
[02:40] <denebeim> Oh, and the working system has btrfs
[02:40] <EnderTheThird> Picture to demonstrate in a moment.
[02:40] <kriskropd> daslinkard: !ask
[02:40] <kriskropd> !ask
[02:40] <escott> daslinkard, details please
[02:40] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/935713
[02:41] <daslinkard> escott: wired connection hooked in....but unable to get Internet
[02:41] <escott> denebeim, not the filesystem. what version of ubuntu did you install, the 64bit or the 32bit
[02:41] <denebeim> Oh.  Sorry all of the systems are running 64
[02:41] <escott> daslinkard, paste.ubuntu.com the output of ifconfig
[02:41] <daslinkard> k
[02:41] <kriskropd> daslinkard: 'ifconfig' does it read anything?
[02:41] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, have you tried unity 3d then? that bug seems very specific
[02:42] <megamanx1978> I cannot play my humble bundle games can someone please help
[02:42] <escott> denebeim, and the 10.04 upgrade was a 64bit system
[02:42] <DeltaHeavy> Looks like it's not getting fixed. Unity is too bloated for my tastes anyway. Was a good try. Guess I'm going to XFCE
[02:42] <denebeim> Correct.
[02:42] <escott> denebeim, its just very strange you would ever have a i386 smartmontools on a 64bit system
[02:42] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: I'm not sure what that is. I'm on a VM so idk if I can use 3D stuff.
[02:42] <daslinkard> As far as IP address?
[02:42] <escott> denebeim, you could just apt-get remote smartmontools:i386; apt-get install smartmontools
[02:43] <escott> denebeim, but copying /etc/apt from one system to another is something you should never do
[02:43] <denebeim> ah I'm unfamiliar with 'remote'  let me man it just a sec.
[02:43] <Nautilus> i also have a copying question, for a directory in my /home/myname dir.  I copied the files to a separate drive with 'cp -a' and that seems to have worked (perms are drwxr-xr-x), but when I copied the dir to my new 12.04 install (using -a again) I just got perms of drwx------.  Can I copy them back without that happening?
[02:43] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, think it depends on you VM. when you login to ubuntu, you should see options for desktop. if 3d's not there, then you need to talk to the admins.
[02:43] <denebeim> Oh I know.  I renamed the original to apt.old so I could go back
[02:44] <escott> Nautilus, what filesystem was the "separate drive"
[02:44] <DeltaHeavy> No time to go on a wild goose chase right now. I'll check it out later
[02:44] <Nautilus> both are ext3
[02:45] <kriskropd> DeltaHeavy: XFCE is rather nice, you can install it with 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[02:45] <denebeim> sudo apt-get remote smartmontools:i386
[02:45] <denebeim> E: Invalid operation remote
[02:45] <no1special> good evening, I am looking for information to reveal the true versioning information from services utilizing backporting. Services like OpenSSH
[02:45] <DeltaHeavy> kriskropd: WOn't that install a whole bunch of other apps too that both Unity and XFCE will kinda share, mucking up all my menus?
[02:45] <Nautilus> escott: both are ext3
[02:45] <escott> denebeim, remove not remote sorry
[02:45] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, np mate. i should point out im a fan of Unity, so i just want you to enjoy the same shortcuts i enjoy
[02:45] <denebeim> ah okay.  already tried that, it's not there.
[02:45] <EnderTheThird> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/162975/mouse.png    You can see that the pointer icon is the wrong size.  Sometimes it goes to the regular pointer with the correct resolution and aspect when I mouse over certain applications.  I think this has something to do with my Korean monitor at 2560x1440.  I'm using a custom EDID because the nvidia driver can't read it from the monitor correctly.  Problem exists in both 12.04 and 12.10.
[02:46] <escott> Nautilus, if you used cp -a in both copies it should have the same permissions
[02:46] <denebeim> tried it again, still not there ;-)
[02:46] <Nautilus> escott: huh, I wonder if I forgot it second ime. didnt think so.  Will try again
[02:46] <b2coutts> Hey, I was messing around with screen configuration to try to get a game running in wine, and now, when I boot into Ubuntu 12.04, it sends me into a tty, and at tty7 it says "Stopping save kernel messages" as the last line. The 3rd last line is starting LightDM display manager. I've tried using xorg.conf.failsafe, reinstalling nvidia (GTX 680) drivers via apt-get nvidia-current, and reinstalling lightdm, but these haven't fixed it. Does 
[02:46] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: Thanks for the help! By any chance do you know how to speed up Unity? There seems to be a terrible delay on everything I do. In other DE's, like GNOME 2/3, KDE, XFCE it's responsive but this doesn't feel responsive at all.
[02:47] <escott> denebeim, maybe smartmontools:i386 was selected for install by something, and is pending but blocked
[02:47] <b2coutts> I also tried booting in recovery mode, and failsafe graphics mode gave me an error, saying something about there being no monitors
[02:47] <kriskropd> DeltaHeavy: yeah it will, everything you see under 'apt-cache show xubuntu-desktop' which you can weed out for just the packages you need, but I don't know what those are off the top of my head :)
[02:47] <SilverSlimer> having the program's icon bounce like on the mac would give unity users the impression that it's responsive. a small thing like that would help significantly.
[02:47] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, this is why i say im a fan and not a fanboi, because the answer, as far as i can tell, is development time
[02:48] <denebeim> Yeah I was wondering that.  however I've been unable to get it to tell me what is pending. (if anything) what command would you try for that?
[02:48] <denebeim> BTW I'm really really good with redhat, not so good with ubuntu
[02:48] <RobbyF> EnderTheThird, are you using a montior or a TV? I had that issue with a receiver to a TV using HDMI. oudated hardware was my issue
[02:48] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, i get delays too :(
[02:48] <escott> denebeim, what does dpkg --get-selections smart* say
[02:48] <DeltaHeavy> Snowie: Yeah, I hope it improves. Right now I'm not sure if it's ready for my tastes, or if these problems I dislike will ever go away.
[02:48] <denebeim> ooo that looks promising just a sec.
[02:49] <denebeim> nothing
[02:49] <DeltaHeavy> kriskropd: Ok, I think I'll just do a Xubuntu install or lurk around for some other distro to try. Thanks! I think imma actually try out Yellow Hat Linux
[02:49] <EnderTheThird> RobbyF:  Monitor.  It's a Shimian QH270-Lite 27" 2560x1440 monitor.
[02:49] <Snowie> DeltaHeavy, yeah, which is why i try. more users == more developers
[02:49] <denebeim> I'm really thinking that my package cache is screwed up, but I don't know how to fix it.
[02:49] <RobbyF> HDMI?
[02:49] <b2coutts> I just checked the Xorg logs, it says "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[02:49] <EnderTheThird> Robby-F:  DVI
[02:49] <DeltaHeavy> Yellowdog*
[02:49] <EnderTheThird> RobbyF: DVI
[02:49] <kriskropd> DeltaHeavy: if you just want to "try" and you intend to overwrite your current install, I do insist just trying the 'xubuntu-desktop' - it will take a lot less time
[02:49] <b2coutts> Even though they should really have any configuration with xorg.conf.failsafe
[02:50] <RobbyF> hmm, not to sure, sorry.
[02:50] <b2coutts> shouldn't*
[02:50] <kamal_> hi
[02:50] <Snowie> kamal_, howdy
[02:50] <DeltaHeavy> kriskropd: I've used XFCE many times before but thanks for your suggestions :p
[02:51] <DeltaHeavy> I wish more distros ran Mate. I miss GNOME 2 T_T
[02:51] <EnderTheThird> RobbyF:  Thanks.  I'm not even sure where to start with this thing, heh.
[02:51] <Nautilus> this command look ok to copy a whole dir, so that the dir ends up in my current location?  sudo cp -ar /mnt/myb1/home/brian/sites .
[02:51] <EnderTheThird> RobbyF: I just know I'm tired of booting into Win7 now that I'm not playing Diablo anymore.
[02:51] <escott> Nautilus, sudo is probably the problem here.
[02:51] <denebeim> is there a way to force apt-get to reload all of the lists like you can with yum?
[02:51] <Domincii_> how do i start a private chat?
[02:52] <Nautilus> escott: ok, i'll try without, but also the '.' is good?  put the sites folder in current location?
[02:52] <kriskropd> Nautilus: you could add a '-v' option to cp to make it more verbose
[02:52] <escott> denebeim, you can try apt-get -f install to fix broken packages
[02:52] <kriskropd> Nautilus: would let you know when and where something goes wrong
[02:52] <Nautilus> gotcha
[02:52] <denebeim> Yeah already did that too sadly, will try again
[02:53] <Nautilus> kriskropd: except I cant read this fast
[02:53] <escott> Nautilus, you have to be careful combining things like sudo and relative paths, but yes . would be the current directory. the bigger issue is you just don't need root for this
[02:53] <denebeim> ah hah, this is interesting.  I've always done install -f not -f install. this time I'm getting  upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[02:53] <Nautilus> escott: it's a runnin'
[02:53] <denebeim> but I've just done an apt-get update, so I may just be confused....
[02:54] <kriskropd> Nautilus: you can make it log the output by sending it into a file 'cp -arv /mydir > /home/me/cp.log'
[02:54] <escott> denebeim, and the 7 not upgraded are the problem packages
[02:54] <kriskropd> Nautilus: though in reality, the problem will likely occur when it stops xD
[02:54] <denebeim> Doubt it, it is unity stuff, didn't that just get updated?
[02:55] <denebeim> updating now
[02:56] <cjs> What do I do when usb-creator-gtk refuses to enable the "Make Startup Disk" button even after erasing the USB drive using the "Erase Disk" option?
[02:56] <BlackWeb> Is Anyone familiar with commandline FTP, Just wondering how I'd go about downloading Mutiple files at once
[02:56] <Snowie> cjs, check the format option you have on the usb drive
[02:56] <cjs> How do I do that?
[02:57] <escott> BlackWeb, mget, and stop using ftp
[02:57] <denebeim> Nope same problem.
[02:57] <cjs> I did remove all the partitions using gparted, and have the same issue.
[02:57] <BlackWeb> Using SFTP
[02:57] <Snowie> cjs, ahhh, sec
[02:57] <BlackWeb> Mainly so that all transfers will be secure
[02:57] <Snowie> cjs, your creating a liveusb for ubuntu right?
[02:57] <escott> denebeim, what command are you running that gives you the error?
[02:57] <cjs> Snowie: Yup!
[02:57] <escott> BlackWeb, good
[02:58] <cjs> And I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04 box that's pretty near up to date. (It's missing maybe a week of patches.)
[02:58] <escott> BlackWeb, if you have remote shell scp might be easier
[02:58] <denebeim> sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[02:58] <escott> denebeim, and dpkg --get-selection smart* does not mention smartmontools?
[02:58] <Snowie> cjs, is there anything helpful here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:58] <BlackWeb> when downloading multiple files then what do i to the syntax like this (Remote_File Local_File Remote-File Local File)
[02:59] <kriskropd> cjs: with gparted, if you were to try and make a partition ont he usb, does it say it needs a table first? I'm unfamiliar with the usb-creator-gtk, but I'll bet it needs a tablet to write the FAT32 partition to.
[02:59] <denebeim> comes back totally empty
[02:59] <kriskropd> on the*
[02:59] <kriskropd> table*
[02:59] <denebeim> I really think my package list cache is busted.
[02:59] <denebeim> but I don't know how to force it to reload it
[02:59] <escott> BlackWeb, you don't specify the local file in any way at all. its just downloaded to the current directory
[03:00] <escott> BlackWeb, unless you were asking about scp in which case its just like cp with an "s" at the beginning
[03:00] <oneman> hai
[03:00] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give it ago Thanks
[03:00] <denebeim> I'm also having lockup issues with this machine (hence the smartmon) so I could have some sort of disk corruption.
[03:00] <oneman> I'm looking for someone to create a PPA for my project, will pay $
[03:00] <oneman> or BTC for that matter
[03:00] <escott> BlackWeb, so ftp its "cd whatever_remote; lcd whatever_local; mget folder" with scp its scp remote:~/path ~/path
[03:00] <cjs> kriskropd: Oh, a partition table is there. Though come to think of it, I didn't check to see if it was old/"DOS" or modern eboot or whatever it is. The USB stick (a Sandisk 32 GB) actually came with a partition already on it that was the first thing I'd tried.
[03:01] <Nautilus> escott: yep, looks like my initial attempt was as root, this cp seems to have the right perms!  I get so use to having to sudo stuff
[03:01] <kriskropd> cjs: Additionally to not being familiar with the usb-creator-gtk, it could be a simple user error, like missing a step to enable the button
[03:01] <escott> Nautilus, run commands without sudo first, then if you get a permission error think about using sudo
[03:02] <Nautilus> escott: yea i figured that out :)
[03:02] <oneman> if anyone is or knows someone who wants to do this let me know
[03:02] <cjs> kriskropd: There's not a lot of steps. Just "erase" (which is optional in some cases) and "make startup disk". :-)
[03:03] <delinquentme> Ok so im showing a WEBrick in my processes ... however $ killall WEBrick .. says    "WEBrick: no process found"
[03:03] <cjs> Snowie: Didn't see anything on that page, which seemed mostly to deal with problems getting persistent storage, which I don't need anyway.
[03:03] <escott> kriskropd, did you get a gksudo prompt at some point in this?
[03:03] <delinquentme> am i missing something to kill this process?
[03:03] <kriskropd> escott: wrong guy :)
[03:03] <cjs> I think that this is just a massively buggy usb-creator-gtk in 12.04. I'll go do this on an 11.10 machine.
[03:03] <Snowie> oneman, there a alot of sites on the web where you can get devs to bid on your job. maybe try one of those. anyone here recommend a site for oneman
[03:03] <escott> kriskropd, sorry...
[03:04] <Dae> I haven't had any issues with the USB creator on 12.04.1 so far.
[03:04] <escott> cjs, did you get a gksudo prompt at some point. presumably you must have to erase the disk
[03:04] <kriskropd> delinquentme: try this 'ps -aux | grep WEBrick' it should give oyu the process ID, then type 'sudo kill -9 id_number_here'
[03:04] <Snowie> cjs, agreed. i think the fact that it should be fat32 limited to 4g, and you have a 32G drive might be part of the problem though. that's what i got from theere
[03:04] <cjs> escott: I was doing this all from the command line after I'd sudo'd -s.
[03:04] <cjs> Snowie: Ah, I missed that bit!
[03:04] <escott> cjs, there may actually be an issue with it being too large. you can't make the persistence file larger than 2GB iirc
[03:05] <delinquentme> thrive   10016  0.0  0.0   7628   940 pts/1    S+   23:04   0:00 grep --color=auto WEBrick     kriskropd which is the process? the 10016?
[03:05] <escott> delinquentme, when you ps aux | grep WEBrick you create a process "grep .... WEBrick" that shows up in ps aux
[03:05] <kriskropd> delinquentme: nope, thats the process id that you just ran trying to identify WEBrick
[03:05] <Nautilus> this might be more an apache Q... I see that the vhosts I've created over a couple years are a mix between my user as the owner and root as the owner.  Is one more correct than the other?
[03:06] <delinquentme> escott, OHHHHH
[03:06] <kriskropd> delinquentme: are you certain the process name is WEBrick or atleast contains that word in it? its also case sensitive
[03:06] <delinquentme> kriskropd, so ive got a web server of the type WEBrick .. which is currently hogging port 3000
[03:06] <Dae> Make a 4G partition, go from there.
[03:06] <denebeim> Ah, I found this from a really old post: dpkg --clear-avail but no joy
[03:07] <delinquentme> but I guess WEBrick isnt the right name bc im only getting one process .. the search / grep process
[03:07] <escott> delinquentme, capitalized binaries are unusual try grep -i webrick
[03:07] <cjs> escott: I'm not trying to create any sort of persistence file!
[03:07] <kriskropd> delinquentme: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEBrick this was my quick lil lesson for me; I think webrick is actually running under a process for ruby, but I'm only guessing here
[03:08] <Nautilus> oh duh, the default vhost is root, so I suppose thats the way to go
[03:08] <Snowie> delinquentme, i a noob at this WARNING, but maybe try ' *WEB* or *rick* and see if there are similar matches
[03:08] <escott> cjs, nonetheless you have an image file for the ext4 loopback, and that needs to be <4GB
[03:08] <cjs> Snowie: Nope, it still doesn't work with a 3.9 GB partition. Oh, and I just remembered, the last time this happened, I did just boot up an 11.10 system where it worked fine.
[03:08] <BlackWeb> escott Thank you mget worked like a charm :) problem solved
[03:08] <kriskropd> delinquentme: try greeping for 'webrick' all lowercase
[03:08] <delinquentme> escott, thanks .. no beans though
[03:09] <delinquentme> ill just run on another port ! thanks guys :D
[03:09] <kriskropd> delinquentme: it's quite uncommon to see uppercase on process names
[03:09] <escott> delinquentme, lsof or netstat are able to give you the PID holding the socket open
[03:09] <delinquentme> kriskropd, noted .. as well as the nifty grep -i caseinsensitive
[03:09] <kriskropd> delinquentme: always learning, thansk for the feedback :D
[03:09] <kriskropd> thanks* <_<
[03:09] <cjs> escott: If you're talking about one created by usb-creator-gtk, I think not, because I'm giving it the command line option not to create any persistence partition. If you're talking about something set up by the installer on the ISO after it boots, usb-creator-gtk wouldn't know about it.
[03:10] <Snowie> cjs, is it just me, or did formatting that drive, creating partitions, then reinstalling ubuntu take an unusally short amount of time?
[03:10] <delinquentme> escott, how would I just the netstat ?
[03:10] <delinquentme> kriskropd, you and me both :D!
[03:10] <Dae> Snowie, how long does it normally take you?
[03:10] <cjs> Snowie: Hm? You mean for me to do it? I got nowhere near that. I just want to take an Ubuntu installer ISO and get this USB stick to boot it.
[03:11] <escott> cjs, if you aren't creating the persistence file then its probably not related to the 4gb limit of fat files. but all the livecds made though usb-creator have that casper image file
[03:11] <Snowie> Dae, I will admit, i have not done it, but if I were stuck, and had to do all of that, i would say at least 20 mins, but then im a noob. cjs is just clearly faster than i am
[03:11] <escott> cjs, netstat -lpt for tcp -lpu for udp
[03:11] <Dae> cjs: You said you're trying with a 32GB drive? I ask to try it myself.
[03:12] <escott> cjs, sorry
[03:12] <escott> delinquentme, netstat -lpt for tcp, -lpu for udp
[03:12] <kriskropd> escott: thats awesome
[03:13] <escott> can't keep track of who i am talking to == time for bed
[03:13] <denebeim> YES!
[03:14] <maicod> do there maybe exist 2 versions of lxshortcut , one for console and one for GUI ?
[03:14] <denebeim> If anyone is interested:  If your list of packages becomes corrupted 'rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists'
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> denebeim, hehe we knew that, just wanted to see if you could figure it out. ;)
[03:15] <Hydrogrow> hello all
[03:15] <Dae> I would be more concerned with why the package list got corrupted.
[03:15] <Dae> Hello, Hydrogrow.
[03:16] <Hydrogrow> I'm just trying out IRC chatting ,cant find a room with my subject
[03:16] <Hydrogrow> discgolf
[03:16] <maicod> not for every subject is a room
[03:17] <Hydrogrow> yea I see that now but there are lots of them
[03:17] <maicod> try /list
[03:17] <Hydrogrow> ok
[03:17] <Dae>  irc.xs4all.nl #bsc-discgolf maybe
[03:17] <Hydrogrow> I see
[03:18] <cjs> Snowie, escott: Ha, usb-creator-gtk is broken under 11.10, too. Must be the huge size of this thing that's the problem.
[03:18] <Snowie> cjs, sorry mate. just read through that link i posted, and read back through this thread. I pointed this whole conversation the wrong way. my fault. Ive learnt some stuff at least. post your issue again and i will read instad of speak
[03:18] <Hydrogrow> well thank you for the reply Dae
[03:19] <escott> cjs, you might try a direct install if the bioses you are using support it, or unetbootin
[03:19] <Dae> cjs, if you're interested, I'm trying with a 64G FDD atm.
[03:19] <Hydrogrow> no one home there though
[03:19] <maicod> how do I get LXshortcut to display its gui under X ? I only get a commandline of it
[03:19] <cjs> Snowie: I just want to boot an installer (the mini.iso, to be particular), from a 32 GB USB flash drive.
[03:19] <Snowie> cjs, lol. yeah, soz bud. well, you didnt do your google dilignence ;)
[03:20] <Dae> Sorry, Hydrogrow. I tried. :-)
[03:20] <cjs> Actually, I'm happy with any way of dealing with this  at all, if it can be fairly simple, and leave 8 GB of room on the flash drive for the target install.
[03:20] <cjs> Snowie: Hmmm?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> Hydrogrow, Happry northern lights. ;)
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> happy*
[03:20] <Hydrogrow> thanks for helping a noob out
[03:20] <Hydrogrow> lol thats a myth
[03:20] <maicod> yw
[03:20] <Hydrogrow> but true!
[03:20] <Snowie> cjs, kiddin mate, just pissed i feel like i wasted your time
[03:21] <kriskropd> cjs: why not just make a 4GB fat32 partition with gparted?
[03:21] <Hydrogrow> actually everyone out there like the northern lights now that I think of it!
[03:21] <kriskropd> cjs: also I apologize if that was already suggested
[03:21] <cjs> Snowie: Oh, it wasn't that bad. At least, talking with you, I wasted less than I would have screwing around with it on my lonesome. :-)
[03:21] <cjs> kriskropd: I tried that already, actually. No luck.
[03:22] <maicod> cjs: screwing around lonesome is no fun :)
[03:22] <Costeelation> someone know any command for close sessions in the terminal?
[03:22] <Dae> Ok, 64G bootdisk is done. Time to test.
[03:23] <kriskropd> cjs: did you try runng the usb creator with sudo?
[03:23] <Costeelation> or restart the lightdm
[03:23] <cjs> kriskropd: Yup. Always have been.
[03:23] <Snowie> cjs, is your image on your HDD or do you have a live cd?
[03:23] <kriskropd> cjs: ick, im confused too then xD
[03:23] <cjs> Snowie: It's on an hdd. Just a "mini.iso" that I downloaded (though I have a few others, too).
[03:24] <cjs> I am totally hating on usb-creator-gtk right now. I've seen issues like this before, but this is now seriously broken.
[03:24] <cjs> I bet it's a "drive larger than 4 GB" thing.
[03:24] <Snowie> I work in tech support, and sometimes it's better to go round than through. burn it and try here maybe ???? disagreements? better advice?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/163982/run-12-04-from-usb-with-no-hard-disk-usage
[03:24] <escott> Costeelation, you can kill gnome-session, or service lightdm restart
[03:25] <Costeelation> escott: ok man thanks so much
[03:25] <kriskropd> cjs: it shouldn't complain if its just asking for a partition though
[03:25] <kriskropd> cjs: and fat32 is not limited to a 4GB partition size, only a 4GB file size
[03:26] <Dae> Well, mine works fine.
[03:26] <cjs> Snowie: That page is almost exactly what I'm trying to do, but once I can get an installer booted, I'm set. (And I need to do a manual partition setup anyway due to using encryption: I need an unencrypted boot partition, then an encrypted partition with an lvm in it that in turn contains the root and swap.)
[03:26] <cjs> The problem is, how do I boot the installer?!
[03:26] <Snowie> cjs, BURN the image
[03:26] <Costeelation> escott: im use cinnamon
[03:27] <Costeelation> escott: is similar¡
[03:27] <Snowie> cjs, and PS myhedasplode. what the hell are you trying to do???
[03:27] <kriskropd> deep breaths, clear some neurons :)
[03:28] <Dae> 64G flash drive, Ubuntu 12.04.1 boots perfectly.
[03:28] <cjs> Snowie: I have an ISO image. I want to boot that ISO image on my laptop.
[03:28] <Snowie> and your laptop has no ability to burn a CD?
[03:29] <cjs> Snowie: Not even read, much less burn. Who has a CD drive these days? What, next I should have a 5.25" floppy drive, too? :-)
[03:29] <Dae> Netbook?
[03:29] <Snowie> Dae, so this can be done, but i think, if you read back, there is more to this puzzle, and i see only pictographs
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> cjs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847   boot the ISO with grub
[03:29] <kriskropd> cjs just to be sure, the laptop can boot from usb, right? its in the bios? i dont think any of this is relevant, but worth asking since we're ont he subject
[03:30] <cjs> Technically, not a netbook, but yeah, a laptop with no internal drive. And I don't have any external drives kicking around here either.
[03:30] <Dae> My guess is that I missed a vital piece of info, like which ISO is being used, or which startup disk creator/method.
[03:30] <cjs> kriskropd: Yup! Boots fine from my old Ubuntu USB install.
[03:30] <Snowie> cjs, just a question. saw a way around your issue, and thought it might be a solution. clearly, that solution is not available
[03:31] <kriskropd> cjs yeah, your laptop is golden then - you are just having trouble with usb-creator-gtk as it is not cooperating
[03:31] <cjs> kriskropd: Yup. That seems to sum it up.
[03:31] <Snowie> kriskropd, agreed
[03:31] <cjs> Maybe if I cut my USB stick into eight tiny pieces, and use only one of them....
[03:31] <renato> oi
[03:31] <Dae> cjs, did you already mention which ISO you're trying to boot?
[03:31] <OerHeks> use an other machine to create an usb installer
[03:32] <cjs> Dae: The mini. I can't use the standard 12.04 alternate install 'cause that requires PAE. (And don't even get me started on *that*.)
[03:32] <Dae> I understand.
[03:33] <escott> cjs, pita on windows which wont (easily) mount partitioned usb
[03:33] <cjs> OerHeks: I was already doing that. The problem is, my other machine is an Ubuntu system as well. :-/
[03:33] <PolarBear> quit
[03:33] <Dae> And why wouldn't it be? ^_^
[03:34] <Nautilus> woohoo! Just about have my 10.04 -> 12.04 migration done!  Many dev web sites up and running
[03:34] <Dae> cjs, just so we're clear on the details, 32- or 64-bit?
[03:34] <kriskropd> cjs: ive always used unetbootin on a windows box to make my usb installers, so thats why im unfamiliar with usb-creator-gtk OR any alternatives for it
[03:34] <PolarBear> leave
[03:35] <cjs> Dae: 32-bit.
[03:35] <Dae> I've usually used unetbootin myself, even in Ubuntu, but recently I've been using usb-creator-gtk without issue.
[03:35] <Snowie> PolarBear, try a 'slash' (/) in front of those :)
[03:35] <kriskropd> PolarBear: needs a forward slash '/leave' '/quit'
[03:36] <xcervo> hello guys what software do i use i order to boot multiple iso's with usb?
[03:36] <cjs> escott: Sorry, what's the problem with Windows and partitioned USB? It's always worked ok for me, in the basic arrangement of a USB stick with 1 DOS and 2 other partitions on it.
[03:36] <ramprasadgk> how can i enabe quickedit mode in ubuntu
[03:36] <Nautilus> any tips about optimizing ubuntu & apache for dev purposes?  8 seconds to load a web page locally is a lonnnng time?
[03:37] <Nautilus> ^ also involves php and MySQL
[03:37] <escott> cjs, yes... but windows doesn't provide any way to mount those two other partitions. you can access them from the low level \\ device paths, but you cant get drive letters on them
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> xcervo, I use this app format the thumb with gparted though it is a bit picky. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:38] <andrewaclt> Nautilus, sounds like something is wrong, what is the php code?
[03:38] <cjs> escott: Oh, you mean if you have, e.g., more than one FAT filesystem! Ah, good to know.
[03:38] <xcervo> thanks wilee
[03:38] <Nautilus> andrewaclt: it's drupal
[03:38] <ramprasadgk> HI xcervo how can i enabe quickedit mode in ubuntu
[03:38] <cjs> escott: (In my case, duh, windows can't access an ext4 or LUKS encrypted partition. :-))
[03:38] <cjs> Nautilus: Stop using all that horribly slow software? :-)
[03:38] <Nautilus> andrewaclt: fwiw, 10.04 was sloth-like as well.   perhaps theres heavy logging or something by default?
[03:39] <Nautilus> tis the platform
[03:39] <escott> !pm | ramprasadgk
[03:39] <kriskropd> Nautilus: you should benchmark a simple html only file and use that for latency test, then you can watch top to see how hard which processes are working when trying to load a drupal page
[03:39] <phunyguy> is it possible to specify what quality to encode transferred music when syncing a media player in rhythmbox?
[03:39] <cjs> Nautilus: Oh, I missed your, "it's Drupal" comment. Drupal is known for sometimes doing thousands of DB queries just to render a single page. It's probably something like that.
[03:40] <phunyguy> for example I have my entire collection in FLAC, and my device doesnt support flac, so I wanna go something like V0 MP3..
[03:40] <Nautilus> ramprasadgk: dont send question in PM
[03:40] <cjs> Nautilus: If you want, I'd be happy to provide a lot more detail via PM, or another channel if others are interested.
[03:40] <Snowie> !ffmpeg
[03:40] <Nautilus> cjs the sites I dev on my local box actually get faster when I post them to a live server
[03:40] <Snowie> hmm, nope
[03:40] <ramprasadgk> this channe suks
[03:41] <phunyguy> so does your spelling.
[03:41] <cjs> Nautilus: Well, the live server probably has a hotter cache, less stuff using memory, that kind of thing.
[03:41] <Dae> You tend to get what you offer, rampr.
[03:41] <Snowie> phunyguy, you can use a player, but i think ffmpeg is what your after. transcoding is the term from one form to another. i use a couple of apps on my box, let me check
[03:41] <kriskropd> Nautilus: drupal is pretty heavy, it could just be processing time on a machine not optimized for web serving on a large scale?
[03:41] <ramprasadgk> biunch of heavy heads
[03:42] <Nautilus> cjs: perhaps, i still just think theres something more.  And yea I know drupal can be heavy
[03:42] <ramprasadgk> no content
[03:42] <phunyguy> Snowie, you missed the point of my question.  I was asking about the sync feature of Rhythmbox, when syncing it transcodes to what the device supports, but I want to change the quality.
[03:42] <Dae> ubuntu quickedit
[03:42] <Nautilus> also, this machine is just an Atom CPU, so maybe this is all I get
[03:42] <Dae> It's an easy enough search
[03:42] <kriskropd> Nautilus: case close
[03:42] <phunyguy> I dont want to encode my entire colleciton with ffmpeg.  FLAC is lossless
[03:42] <kriskropd> lol
[03:42] <Snowie> phunyguy, understood
[03:43] <phunyguy> Snowie and my device is only 16 gig.
[03:43] <Nautilus> cjs: so pm ok?
[03:44] <phunyguy> Snowie there are no options to specify quality, so I was wondering if there was a way to modify the presets it uses or whatever
[03:44] <Dae> Atom CPUs can't be expected to be as quick as the higher-grade processors.
[03:44] <Nautilus> for sure ;)
[03:44] <Snowie> phunyguy, still think the fastest way is to convert the lot using ffmpeg into rythmbox, and then import the new tracks. ive been wrong once before tonight though, so im out.
[03:45] <phunyguy> Snowie I am already doing that....
[03:45] <phunyguy> :P
[03:45] <Snowie> ???
[03:45] <Nautilus> iirc this whole motherboard was $79 (with cpu), lol
[03:45] <Snowie> so, if you have the tracks in the mp3 quality you want...
[03:45] <phunyguy> I want it done on the fly and have my flac collection in rhythymbox
[03:46] <phunyguy> whats wrong with that?
[03:46] <phunyguy> jeez/
[03:46] <cfhowlett> phunyguy: might also find insight on this in #ubuntustudio
[03:46] <phunyguy> how will that channel help me?
[03:46] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, ^^^
[03:47] <Dae> phunyguy, maybe use Banshee?
[03:47] <phunyguy> Dae, I can try but I dont remember seeing settings for that in Banshee
[03:47] <Nautilus> well, of the 3 cores they reached only 20% for the lowest one to 60% for the highest one when I went to a new page
[03:47] <Dae> I seem to recall that transcoding on the fly, exactly as you want.
[03:48] <cfhowlett> phunyguy: ubuntustudio is about multimedia.  Transcoding music is likley to be a familiar topic.
[03:49] <phunyguy> only ~30 ppl in there
[03:49] <phunyguy> :(
[03:50] <Dae> You only need one, phunyguy. And some luck for it to be the right one. ;-)
[03:50] <cjs> Nautilus: Yes. No need to ask me, at least. (I've never understood why someone would want to spam a public channel with what's effectively a private message.)
[03:51] <Nautilus> heh
[03:51] <kriskropd> phunyguy: this isnt an irc for rythmbox, so your luck isn't going to be much better here, even with lots more ppl
[03:51] <kriskropd> cjs your usb problem, have you tried unetbootin?
[03:52] <kriskropd> cjs: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <cjs> kriskropd: That looks promising.
[03:54] <bazhang> !info mp3fs | phunyguy
[03:54] <kriskropd> cjs I for some reason didn't realize you could use it on a linux install, so I didnt think to mention it before xD
[03:54] <kriskropd> cjs: i blame the late hour
[03:54] <phunyguy> bazhang, if that is legit, YOU ROCK.
[03:54] <phunyguy> SERIOUSLY.
[03:54] <phunyguy> would be exactly what I am looking for...
[03:55] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980716  phunyguy
[03:55] <Nordom> I am trying to find the location of a executable, how do I find it dpkg -l <name> lists a file directory but what if I want to find the location of a file inside
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[03:55] <FloodBot1> nixiedoeslinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <phunyguy> wooow...
[03:56] <phunyguy> he didnt even spell the name right
[03:56] <Nordom> I am trying to find the location of a executable, how do I find it dpkg -l <name> lists a file directory but what if I want to find the location of a file inside
[03:56] <cjs> kriskropd: I'd known of it, but I had no idea there was a Linux version, either. And it looks like it worked. Woo!
[03:56] <quiescens> shrug, 3 lines doesn't really rate more than a raising of an eyebrow
[03:56] <TankC> Nordom, which <executable>
[03:57] <Nordom> a file call adb, its from android sdk
[03:57] <c2tarun> my KDE screen is turning off in 35 seconds, can anyone please help me with that?
[03:57] <kriskropd> Nordom: you could try 'which exectuable_name' or 'whereis' even
[03:57] <Nordom> I am having problems connecting to my phone via usb, and on way was try it in SU mode, and when I log into SU and type adb it doesnt work, but if I am not in SU, it works
[03:58] <escott> Nordom, "which binary_name"
[03:58] <Nordom> escott:  what do you mean?
[03:58] <kriskropd> cjs: im glad to know that, because im expecting to go full linux on all my boxes here within a year and its good to know my favorite usb installer works in my future 8)
[03:58] <akis> hi all. i am considering to buy a new wifi printer. is it sure that HP printers are 100% compatible with linux systems and they 're drivers for any model. i search here http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html and i can find the model of the printer i want to buy (3050a or 3070 a) and that wifi is supported. can i trust this site and proceed with the new bu?
[03:59] <Nordom> escott:  I am a nub so sorry if I seem daft
[03:59] <escott> Nordom, the command would be "which adb" i see im late in giving that answer
[03:59] <bazhang> akis, check the linuxprinting.org database
[03:59] <Nordom> which is what I wanted ty!
[04:00] <Nordom> escott: : When I logged into SU, and went to the folder where adb was located it didnt do anything, and suggestions on why this happened?
[04:00] <kriskropd> "Day changed to 26 Sep 2012 " I really need to get some sleep, good luck all
[04:00] <escott> Nordom, its failing because when you login as root "sudo -i" you change the working directory to /root but you installed adb to /home/username/whatever so you need to cd /home/username/whatever
[04:01] <Nordom> escott: so I need to type sudo -i su ?
[04:01] <escott> Nordom, you shouldnt be using "su" on ubuntu at all
[04:01] <Nordom> I see
[04:02] <escott> Nordom, either sudo adb whatever or sudo -i; adb whatever
[04:02] <Nordom> then this guide is probably not what I want to use then, thank you
[04:02] <escott> Nordom, im sure the guide is fine except that we use sudo not su
[04:02] <Nordom> got it!
[04:03] <escott> Nordom, if you see "su" in isolation replace it with "sudo -i" if you see "su -c command" replace it with "sudo command"
[04:04] <cjs> kriskropd: And it even boots happily. I'm not so sure that the mini.iso installer is too happy, but that's not a problem with UNetbootin.
[04:06] <[TiZ]> Hi. Wine's fonts are seriously ugly. There's no anti-aliasing at all, and the fonts look ridiculously jagged. How do I fix this?
[04:06] <cjs> kriskropd: Ok, you have officially made my day. I never have to get near that !@#$#%!@#$ usb-creator-gtk program ever again. Heck, that probably made my year.
[04:07] <ramprasadgk> how can i enabe quickedit mode in ubuntu
[04:07] <pablo_> brasil
[04:08] <akis> linuxprinting.org database doesnt have those printers althought hp database seems to support them!
[04:08] <pablo_> boa noite tudo bom ?
[04:08] <pablo_> ho akis
[04:08] <bazhang> pablo_, #ubuntu-br
[04:08] <pablo_> hi ?
[04:09] <pablo_> #ubuntu-br
[04:09] <Dae> ramprasadgk, in which program?
[04:09] <Dae> The GNOME Terminal?
[04:11] <ramprasadgk> in terminal
[04:11] <ramprasadgk> yes or XTERM
[04:11] <ramprasadgk> or any terminal for that matter
[04:11] <ramprasadgk> i use ubuntu ubuntu
[04:11] <Dae> What exactly are you trying to do? Because what I consider "quickedit" is enabled by default for me, with the standard terminal.
[04:12] <cfhowlett> ramprasadgk: did you get wifi working?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:12] <ramprasadgk> oh yeah
[04:13] <ramprasadgk> i got my wifi working
[04:13] <ramprasadgk> thanks for asking
[04:14] <ramprasadgk> mine was b43 driver
[04:14] <ramprasadgk> so installed all the firmwares needed
[04:14] <ramprasadgk> from ubuntu site
[04:14] <ramprasadgk> it works like a charm
[04:14] <cfhowlett> ramprasadgk: ubuntu magic!
[04:15] <Nordom> how do u restart udev?
[04:15] <ramprasadgk> cfhowlett now i am stuck with enabling quickedit mode
[04:16] <cfhowlett> ramprasadgk: definitely not my area.  sorry.  Stay in channel and persevere.
[04:17] <ramprasadgk> ok cfhowlett thanks though
[04:19] <Dae> Nordom: sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[04:19] <Nordom> ty!
[04:20] <Dae> Any time.
[04:21] <min|dvir|us> Hi. My messages indicator is 1px wide. Any thoughts?
[04:21] <Dae> You may want to make it wider.
[04:21] <min|dvir|us> Dae: I'm asking for help with that.
[04:22] <Dae> Ah, sorry. I thought you just wanted an opinion. Are you using anything special, or default Unity?
[04:23] <min|dvir|us> Dae: default Unity.
[04:26] <robotdevil> wonder why lm-sensors only shows on of my several cores in cpu and nothing for my nvidia gpu
[04:27] <robotdevil> several=4
[04:29] <MACscr> when doing an distro upgrade over ssh and it opens up a secondary ssh port just in case, it should still continue the upgrade on the main ssh connection. Right? just wondering as its been sitting at the same prompt after i hit continue for the past 15 minutes http://www.screencast.com/t/KxVJrv0W
[04:30] <cn28h> If I tell the Ubuntu 12.10 beta installation to "Replace windows 7" will it leave my recovery partition intact? I'd like to choose that option, but I'd like to hae the option of restoring the computer to factory defaults later if I want
[04:30] <cfhowlett> cn28h: use the manual option to preserve your recovery partition.
[04:31] <xangua> !12.10 | cn28h
[04:31] <cn28h> all right, figured that might be the case -- thanks
[04:32] <bsmith0931> im trying to download an entire ftp site tthrough filezilla, its mostly text files, thousands of them, small, but in many folders, all in the pub directory, if i just select that will fz, grab it all, because it looks like its skipping subfolders
[04:32] <min|dvir|us> Dae: every time I get on the computer.
[04:32] <devslash> has anyone set up a torrent server with a web based interface
[04:32] <min|dvir|us> At first I can see the messages indicator and can click on it.
[04:32] <cn28h> cfhowlett: If I choose that option, is it still possible to make it use LVM / crypto?
[04:32] <min|dvir|us> And I can see the dropdown.
[04:32] <min|dvir|us> But then it disappears.
[04:32] <min|dvir|us> Shrinks to 1px.
[04:33] <MACscr> devslash: deluge or transmission
[04:33] <cfhowlett> cn28h: I would say yes and the manual option is MANUAL.  YOu get to choose and pick your configuration.  Less hand holding, more control.
[04:33] <devslash> MACscr: do either of those load from the console ?
[04:33] <Sokel> wut
[04:33] <cn28h> cfhowlett: hm okay, sounds fair enough
[04:33] <MACscr> devslash: both do
[04:34] <devslash> and both have a web guy
[04:34] <devslash> gui
[04:34] <MACscr> yes, hence why i suggested them
[04:34] <escott> robotdevil, did you run sensors-detect?
[04:34] <devslash> just making sure
[04:34] <robotdevil> escott: yes sir
[04:34] <devslash> I've tried using rtorrent  but it sucks
[04:35] <escott> robotdevil, did it find a module for you to probe for the nvidia card?
[04:35] <MACscr> devslash: they pretty much all do
[04:35] <devslash> oh really ? even the 2 you mentioned ?
[04:36] <MACscr> yes, they just suck the least out of the options. ive done a lot of research on the matter
[04:36] <devslash> Im not sure why but rtorrent is giving me connection errors
[04:36] <devslash> what issues have you run into ?
[04:36] <MACscr> i rarely do anything with torrents anymore though. usenet ftw
[04:38] <chamunks> !rw
[04:39] <robotdevil> escott: just read that only nvidia clock or nvidia-settings can read card. but still wondering about the cores of cpu
[04:39] <cjs> The mini.iso install is giving me a list of optional software to install, which includes "OpenSSH server," "DNS server," and good stuff like that. The first option is, "Basic Ubuntu server." What is that?
[04:40] <MACscr> chamunks: ?
[04:40] <robotdevil> MACscr: thought usenet costs money
[04:40] <MACscr> robotdevil: it cant. Some isp's provide it for free though
[04:40] <MACscr> er, can
[04:41] <chamunks> MACscr, I was just looking for this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-format-cdrw-dvdrw/
[04:41] <Dae> min|dvir|us: are you by any chance using 11.04?
[04:41] <chamunks> brasero never works
[04:41] <chamunks> for blanking
[04:41] <MACscr> lol, you use rw's? for what?
[04:41] <chamunks> os's
[04:41] <robotdevil> distros
[04:42] <chamunks> I wouldn't bother owning a dvd drive if it werent for rw's
[04:42] <Dae> I stopped using rw's a long time ago. Nothing seems to work 100% with them.
[04:42] <MACscr> same here
[04:42] <chamunks> dae you're just not trying the right tools.
[04:42] <guest9723948> question:
[04:42] <chamunks> cdrecord from the commandline always blanks a disk fine.
[04:42] <Dae> You're probably right, but that's why I said "seems".
[04:42] <oisa> Using Ubuntu 12.10, the package manager has made itself unusable with an error on "linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic"
[04:43] <chamunks> Dae, MACscr http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-format-cdrw-dvdrw/ this is what you were looking for.
[04:43] <oisa> Installing the kernel always exits with error, and so I cannot do anything with apt.
[04:43] <MACscr> well i gave up on them like 8 years ago =P
[04:43] <xangua> !1210 | oisa
[04:43] <xangua> !12.10
[04:43] <chamunks> MACscr, they're much better for burning new releases to that don't play well with Unetbootin / (the thing ubuntu uses for the same thing for usb os installs)
[04:44] <MACscr> eh, regular cdr's work fine for that
[04:44] <chamunks> wasteful
[04:44] <chamunks> and costs too much.
[04:44] <Dae> Thanks, chamunks, I'll use that if I ever come across an rw that needs blanking in the future.
[04:44] <MACscr> 50 discs is like $10 and lasts me a couple years
[04:45] <chamunks> i buy a single rw and all rw's have some thousands of possible read writes.
[04:45] <chamunks> an rw costs like a dollar.
[04:45] <chamunks> I keep a couple
[04:45] <chamunks> and i never worry about running out.
[04:45] <Nautilus> one time i bought 100 cdr's for $10 and then got 2-for-1 on it.  200 cdr's
[04:46] <chamunks> Nautilus, nice, if i'm forced to buy cdr's in a spindle I will only buy sony dvd+r's
[04:46] <Dae> Oh, neat - wodim is already installed and updated.
[04:46] <chamunks> dae mhmm :)
[04:46] <chamunks> I wonder if you could even use a tool to set all bits on a dvd/cd to 1
[04:47] <chamunks> because I imagine the 1 is what the laser sets when it burns a dot to the cd.
[04:47] <chamunks> so basically the opposite of zeroing out a harddrive with dban you could do that with 1's
[04:48] <Dae> I wonder what the result would be...empty, or full?
[04:48] <chamunks> Dae, it would be full.
[04:48] <Dae> I'm assuming it would be read incorrectly.
[04:48] <chamunks> my target would not be to re use the disk but to render it unreadable unrecoverable.
[04:48] <loli_stoner> no empty
[04:48] <loli_stoner> 1 isn't full and 0 empty
[04:48] <loli_stoner> it depends on what the filesystem says
[04:48] <loli_stoner> then just use sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx
[04:49] <loli_stoner> or use urandom instead of zero if you want
[04:49] <chamunks> loli_stoner, the point in my case / scenario would be to flip all bits to one side
[04:49] <loli_stoner> oh
[04:49] <chamunks> sort of like a dban (derek's boot and nuke)
[04:50] <chamunks> which performs a socalled "Secure wipe" of a hard drive.
[04:50] <Dae> You could accomplish the same with a microwave. ;-)
[04:50] <chamunks> Dae,  you're right and its instant and makes interesting xmas tree decor
[04:50] <Dae> Exactly.
[04:51] <chamunks> Its simply a curiosity thing.  Sort of like the concept of using dban is to theoretically render data unrecoverable on a magnetic storage device.
[04:51] <gollum> Hey, Is it possible to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 LTS
[04:51] <gollum> ???
[04:51] <Dae> I don't see why not, gollum.
[04:51] <chamunks> gollum, yes one level at a time.
[04:52] <chamunks> i believe its sudo apt-get distro upgrade or something like that
[04:52] <gollum> 11.04 and 12.04 right
[04:52] <SwedeMike> gollum: upgrade path is 10.04->12.04 or 10.10->11.04->11.10->12.04
[04:52] <xangua> gollum: othere that goind thru 11.04, 11.10. 12.04 or fresh install, no
[04:52] <cfhowlett> gollum: no not directly.
[04:52] <gollum> Thanks guys.
[04:52] <Dae> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (repeat as needed)
[04:53] <chamunks> gollum, exactly what dae said.
[04:53] <gollum> @Dae Just doing that :)
[04:53] <Dae> ^_^
[04:53] <chamunks> gollum, the only issue is you're going to have alot of skeletons in your closet from the old release.
[04:53] <chamunks> its usually better to simply have a separate partition/drive for /home/
[04:53] <Dae> My suggestion: back up everything you want, wipe and start fresh.
[04:53] <chamunks> that way you can update the /
[04:53] <chamunks> any time you wish.
[04:54] <chamunks> and your home and userspace is totally persistant through updates.
[04:54] <Dae> That's not a bad idea, and is essentially why I use a Windows part mainly for storage.
[04:56] <Dae> I really must find a way to disable the enter/leave messages...
[04:56] <chamunks> Dae, if you find out how to do that in x-chat please let me know.
[04:56] <chamunks> I dont care to see things like this  "* loli_stoner has quit (Quit: Chi on, Chi off, Chi on, Chi off, Chi on, Chi off, Chi on, Chi off, Chi on, Chi off, Chi on, Chi off OH BABY!)"
[04:57] <chamunks> all the time.
[04:57] <Dae> chamunks: /SET irc_conf_mode 1
[04:57] <IdleOne> chamunks: in xchat, right click on the channel name > Settings > Hide join/part messages
[04:57] <Dae> That works. >_>
[04:58] <chamunks> I think that /set irc_con..... works all around.
[04:58] <jonhaller> Hello everyone!
[04:59] <chamunks> it just made #ubuntu tolerable.
[04:59] <chamunks> thanks alot :D
[04:59] <Dae> Any time. :-)
[04:59] <chamunks> IdleOne, also thanks this will likely be how i do it from now on since i likely wont remember /set irc_con....
[04:59] <Dae> I wonder...
[04:59] <Dae> Nope, unknown command. I trudge onward.
[05:00] <chamunks> ?
[05:00] <Dae> That doesn't work for me. I had assumed it wouldn't, but I never actually tried it.
[05:01] <jonhaller> Does anyone here know a lot about wireless adapters?
[05:01] <Dae> Probably.
[05:01] <devslash> has anyone here installed utorrent server in ubuntu
[05:03] <chamunks> devslash, its likely ultra painless.
[05:03] <chamunks> whats your issue?
[05:03] <devslash> i installed it but i can't access the webui
[05:03] <devslash> ps -A shows utserver is running
[05:04] <jonhaller> devslash: how are you trying to access the webui?
[05:04] <d3f4c3d> what is usual cpu idle on Ubuntu 12.4 with I7 920 CPU ?
[05:04] <devslash> i put in my browser myip:8080//gui
[05:04] <cfhowlett> jonhaller: broadcom a bit.
[05:04] <devslash> oops theres supposed to be 1 slash
[05:05] <jonhaller> devslash: are you accessing the computer from outside or inside your network
[05:05] <devslash> inside
[05:05] <jonhaller> devslash: and from the local machine or a different machine
[05:05] <devslash> from another computer on my lan
[05:06] <jonhaller> devslash: try accessing it from the box thats serving the page with an ip of 127.0.0.1
[05:06] <devslash> i cant
[05:06] <devslash> my server doesn't have X installed
[05:06] <devslash> its a headless server
[05:07] <jonhaller> devslash: try lynx
[05:07] <jonhaller> devslash: or links, not sure which ones being updated
[05:07] <devslash> ok
[05:07] <jilt007> Any other text web browser other than elinks,links,lynx ?
[05:08] <jonhaller> jilt007: yes, xD
[05:08] <jonhaller> jilt007: its been a while
[05:08] <KsM> jilt007: w3m
[05:08] <devslash> i think it loaded but i can't see anything
[05:08] <jilt007> KsM: jonhaller  Thanks
[05:08] <devslash> it asked me if i want to proceed without a password
[05:09] <KsM> are you trying to use the framebuffer?
[05:09] <chamunks> devslash, utorrent usually doesn't ship with the webui itself
[05:09] <KsM> because elinks and w3m have support for that
[05:09] <devslash> actually i checked and it does
[05:09] <jonhaller> cfhowlett: im trying to make sense of some of these configuration options inside of config.mk
[05:09] <chamunks> in the windows version for the longest time (dont know if this has changed) you would be able to enable it but you still had to download its webui files separately.
[05:09] <jonhaller> cfhowlett: for configuration of source for a driver for my ralink rt5390 chipset
[05:09] <chamunks> devslash, than I would check to see if it has some sort of subdir in apache.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> jonhaller: sorry, never had to deal with ralink.  Broadcom only.
[05:10] <chamunks> so for example localhost/phpmyadmin
[05:10] <cfhowlett> jonhaller: stay in channel and ask
[05:10] <devslash> cfhowlett: does the server have to be installed in my apache directory
[05:10] <devslash> ahh
[05:10] <devslash> i know what the problem is
[05:11] <chamunks> devslash, what happened?
[05:11] <jonhaller> cfhowlett: theyre configuration options that should be cross platform, like has_client_wds_support
[05:11] <devslash> i disabled shorewall
[05:11] <cfhowlett> devslash: over my head and not my area of "expertise"
[05:12] <jonhaller> Anyone alive that knows a lot about wireless technologies?
[05:12] <guest9723948> question:
[05:12] <devslash> yup i got it working now
[05:12] <jonhaller> guest9723948: answer
[05:13] <guest9723948> tahnk you
[05:13] <devslash> thanks
[05:13] <jonhaller> devslash: nice job, i didnt think of firewall since i use hardware firewall to protect entire network
[05:13] <devslash> thanks
[05:14] <cheteen> hi,my mozilla and chrome is crashed how can restore my system?
[05:14] <guest9723948> thanks!
[05:14] <former> /me
[05:15] <cheteen> anybody
[05:15] <cheteen> guys
[05:15] <devslash> jonhaller: does utorrent server support magnet links
[05:16] <jonhaller> devslash: i assume so since utorrent itself supports magnet links, though thats outside of my area of expertise as well, i switched to tixati
[05:20] <devslash> jonhaller: ok thanks again
[05:21] <jonhaller> devslash: no problem, glad i could be of some help at least ^^
[05:22] <devslash> and by the way magnets do seem to work. you just go to add and paste it where it says torrent url
[05:22] <devslash> wow I'm loving this gui
[05:22] <devslash> nicer than rtorrent
[05:26] <abiteth> has anyone had any luck finding a program to convert an avi to dvd and burn it program
[05:26] <Calinou> abiteth: google is your friend
[05:26] <Calinou> google before asking :)
[05:26] <Jordan_U> !google | Calinou
[05:26] <abiteth> i have been googleing for 2 days
[05:27] <Calinou> just search that kind of program in the software centre?
[05:27] <abiteth> i have tried 5 different programs if you arnt going to help Calinou shut the fuck up respecfully
[05:28] <IdleOne> !language | abiteth
[05:28] <jonhaller> Calinou: its not obvious to most users what the name of the type of software that performs that task is
[05:29] <Calinou> usually, search in software centre/apt-cache search also searches in descriptions
[05:30] <jonhaller> Calinou: what would you search for then?
[05:30]  * Calinou hides.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a program automaticly after it freezes desktop?
[05:30] <Calinou> usually, that kind of software can be used for not-very-legal purposes
[05:32] <jonhaller> Calinou: its possible for a pen to kill someone, how an individual uses something isnt up for others to decide, DVD authoring is a term that isnt well known across many users
[05:32] <Calinou> I know
[05:32] <Calinou> well, then search "rip"
[05:32] <Calinou> or that kind of stuff
[05:33] <jonhaller> Calinou: he wanted to burn a video file to a DVD to play in a dvd player, not rip the contents of an existing dvd to a file
[05:35] <shottoh24> hey. i needed some help with tethering my android to my computer
[05:35] <loli_stoner> ethernet?
[05:35] <jonhaller> loli_stoner: probably usb
[05:35] <shottoh24> usb
[05:35] <loli_stoner> well i mean ethernet through usb
[05:35] <loli_stoner> i know the kindle can do that
[05:36] <shottoh24> not sure how to know
[05:36] <jonhaller> loli_stoner: many android phones use something called usb tethering, it lets you connect to the internet using the phone as a 3g modem
[05:36] <loli_stoner> so yes ethernet through usb
[05:36] <shottoh24> thats exactly what i want
[05:37] <loli_stoner> yeah i did the same thing with my kindle to get free 3G
[05:37] <loli_stoner> free 3G?
[05:37] <shottoh24> i need the right driver for ubuntu
[05:38] <loli_stoner> i don't think you do
[05:38] <loli_stoner> i got into my kindle using telnet
[05:38] <loli_stoner> i think an android would work about the sae
[05:38] <loli_stoner> *same
[05:38] <loli_stoner> it's rooted, right?
[05:38] <shottoh24> any advice
[05:38] <shottoh24> nah
[05:38] <Dae> Use a USB to ethernet adapter.
[05:39] <jonhaller> shottoh24: ignore the bad advice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544556
[05:39] <shottoh24> i dont have the tethering option on my phone
[05:39] <Richhh> best voice recognition software for programming?
[05:39] <loli_stoner> i think you'd have to root it
[05:39] <loli_stoner> you don't need that, just use ethernet through usb
[05:39] <Dae> You may still need drivers for that, loli.
[05:39] <superfake123> how can I fix alt right click in wine so it doesn't do the context menu?
[05:39] <Dae> Depends on the device.
[05:40] <nomad> loli_stoner: does walmart have that connector
[05:40] <loli_stoner> its not a connecter, its a way to get ethernet through a normal usb
[05:40] <loli_stoner> i think you have to root your android though
[05:40] <jonhaller> nomad, dae: ethernet is a protocol, not a physical connector.
[05:41] <loli_stoner> exactly
[05:41] <Dae> jonhaller: I know, but the computer still needs to know how to handle the protocol through specific devices.
[05:42] <jonhaller> Dae: sorry, you just mentioned a usb ethernet adapter, thought you got them confused ^^
[05:47] <jonhaller> Can anyone help me with understanding some of these configuration values for this STA driver source file?
[05:57] <Newb101> hello
[05:57] <jilt007> Newb101:  yes
[05:58] <Newb101> Does anyone know how in css to make the page scale to the window?
[05:59] <Newb101> Can anyone recomend an irc client which is open-source and not chatzilla or xchat
[05:59] <jilt007> how to make my folder encrypt in ubuntu very eaisly
[05:59] <phy1729> what group should I add people to so they can run alsamixer?
[05:59] <superfake123> Newb101, go to #css
[05:59] <somsip> Newb101: irssi
[06:00] <jilt007> phy1729:  Just check the /etc/group | grep alsamixer
[06:01] <phy1729> jilt007: nothing
[06:01] <phy1729> I already tried audio
[06:03] <jilt007> phy1729: then i have no idea
[06:11] <sulaiman> Hi
[06:11] <sulaiman> how can I create a shortcut in ubuntu?
[06:11] <sulaiman> I want to launch rdesktop with my arguments from the desktop
[06:11] <sulaiman> instead of writing it on the command line all the time
[06:12] <sulaiman> I am using Unity
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> sulaiman: make a launcher with something like 'gnome-terminal -e rdesktop -various arguments'. like that?
[06:20] <paulus68_> Hi I am on dual boot is there a way to increase the time so that I am able to have some time to select ubuntu/windows
[06:22] <aeon-ltd> paulus68: yes it part of the grub configuration
[06:22] <eco_> Hello hello :D
[06:24] <paulus68_> aeon-ltd: I figured that out however how can I increase the time now I just see it flashing by and I don't even have the time to select which OS I want to boot into
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> paulus68_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display
[06:25] <paulus68_> aeon-ltd: thx
[06:33] <eco_> This is going to sound silly most likely, but are there any significant differences between coding C++ on a Windows Os and a Linux Os? I'm assuming no~
[06:35] <tsimpson> eco_: as long as you stick to only standard C/C++, there is no difference
[06:35] <eco_> What IDE would you recommend for C++ on a Linux system?
[06:36] <eco_> Not sure if I wanna touch Code Blocks :I
[06:36] <agtownz> eco_: Do you need autocomplete and static code analysis?
[06:36] <tsimpson> there are many, I tend to use either Qt Creator or just kate
[06:36] <cjs> Well, one big difference is that under Unix a large number of coders use Emacs or Vim and command line tools, rather than an IDE.
[06:37] <eco_> Eh, don't really need them, no.
[06:38] <agtownz> eco_: Then any editor you're already used to will do fine. If you want ideas, try Komodo Edit or something.
[06:39] <agtownz> I'm sure there has been plenty said on stackoverflow about Linux C++ development, also.
[06:39] <eco_> Alright, cool. Thanks guys :) Uhm.. Another quick question. Any good books out there for grasping the ropes on a linux system/ Ubuntu specifically?
[06:40] <eco_> I feel almost like a lost puppy
[06:40] <lix> join #ubuntu-server
[06:40] <lix> #ubuntu-server
[06:43] <scriptjerk> Will a distro update mess my php install up?  It's from source. Seems like i am re-installing lamp stack every 6 months.
[06:43] <andrea> s
[06:43] <andrea> aoras
[06:43] <andrea> lov
[06:44] <|Nordom|> I am trying to open a text file that has been written in Japanese, when I open it a bunch of boxes with numbers appear, I am guessing the uni-code is off. How do I open a text document of a different unti code to properly show the japanese characters?
[06:45] <kjkj> heyyyyyy
[06:45] <chamunks> !bfs
[06:45] <chamunks> woops
[06:45] <chamunks> !nfs
[06:46] <kjkj> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:47] <agtownz> |Nordom|: You could try saving-as with gedit and changing the locale option on the bottom.
[06:48] <|Nordom|> how would I do that? (ubuntu nub here)
[06:49] <agtownz> Not sure if you changed defaults, but right-click text file, open with, select gedit.
[06:49] <blackshirt> |Nordom|: what the problem is ? I just sitting here for a seconds
[06:49] <agtownz> Then file, save as, and below the new name you want to select, it will have an encoding drop down option.
[06:50] <agtownz> UTF-8 should allow the characters to be displayed properly.
[06:50] <|Nordom|> blackshirt: have a text doc written in Japanese, I opened it shows boxes with numbers on them, I want to view it in Japanese but I think the uni-code is off or something and wondering how to get it to display properly
[06:50] <|Nordom|> agtownz: I will try that
[06:52] <blackshirt> |Nordom|: what the editor are you using now ?
[06:52] <|Nordom|> gedit, or whatever the default text editor is in ubuntu
[06:54] <|Nordom|> agtownz: tried to save it as the new encoding but it didn't work, might be something like it was opened with errors so u saved the errors too
[06:55] <|Nordom|> currently downloading more language packages maybe that will fix it
[06:57] <chamunks> nfs or smb
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a program automaticly after it freezes the desktop?
[07:11] <rp2> how would you detect that condition?
[07:11] <tasslehoff> any recommended ppa for getting the latest/beta drivers for nvidia?
[07:12] <zhonghai> clear
[07:12] <zhonghai> cls
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | tasslehoff
[07:16] <tuxinator> hi all
[07:17] <tuxinator> is there any good reason on ubuntu that apache and ntp have the same nice level?
[07:18] <sylar_> hey
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !ntp > lotuspsychje
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !ntp | tuxinator
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> tuxinator: theres server info on there maybe got info about your question
[07:19] <write> hey :)
[07:20] <write> anyone here?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> write:just ask your question mate
[07:20] <fidel> write: there is always someone inhere ;)
[07:20] <fidel> !ask > write
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> fidel:lol
[07:21] <write> !ask
[07:21] <tuxinator> lotuspsychje: there is no docu about process priorities for ntpd
[07:22] <tuxinator> i can't understand why it should make sense to run apache and ntpd on same nice level, actually why apache has so a high nice level.
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> tuxinator:what exactly is your purpose to know sync?
[07:23] <write> oke, i have a problem with my netbook, Asus 1015BX, just installed ubuntu 12.04 on it (since the ubuntu netbook editions no longer exists), and the screen resolution is 1024x600. It should be 1024x768 as far as i know. I've played a bit with xrandr, but i get an error when trying to --addmode.
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | write
[07:24] <agtownz> write: The maximum screen resolution is 1024x600 according to asus.com.
[07:24] <write> lotuspsychje: it is just for dual screens ? :-s ... then its not what i need
[07:24] <write> agtownz: but in win7, it goes higher to 768 since it is widescreen
[07:25] <agtownz> write: Resolution is defined by the number of pixels the display hardware itself has.
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> write:i agree with agtownz, ubuntu chooses best res
[07:25] <jilt007> How to block pen drive access to my ubuntu system, i entered in blacklist.conf file  blacklist usb_storage. now what to do
[07:25] <siavashserver> tuxinator: user verynice to tune them.
[07:25] <siavashserver> *use
[07:25] <write> agtownz: i know, but i wouldn't have gone to all this trouble if i didn't see in windows 7 the better looking resolution 1024x768 :-s
[07:25] <agtownz> I'm wondering how W7 does it since the hardware itself has a maximum of 600 height pixels to work with.
[07:26] <chbg> i recently made the transition from win7 to ubuntu & my battery seems to be charging slower/draining faster than it was when i was running win7. any ideas?
[07:26] <write> agtownz: just to be sure, and have a prt screen :) i'll install win7 again this afternoon oke ?
[07:27] <write> agtownz: and i'll install the driver (since there is a specific one in windows) .. and if win7 does it, i'm sure ubuntu has to be able to also do this
[07:27] <agtownz> write: i'm not sure what a prt screen is. Do you mean you're not using the netbook's own display?
[07:27] <tf81_netbook> i have that problem with my netbook also, battery lasts about 20minutes longer in winblows
[07:27] <write> agtownz: print screen, screenshot with the display preferences
[07:28] <write> agtownz: will you be online in like... 5-6 hours from now ?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> tf81_netbook:what version of ubuntu?
[07:28] <siavashserver> chbg: you need to install your gpu driver
[07:28] <jilt007> Any One please
[07:28] <tf81_netbook> lotuspsychje:  12.04
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jilt007
[07:28] <Jordan_U> tf81_netbook: Try installing powertop, running "sudo powertop", and following the recommendations that it gives.
[07:29] <agtownz> write: I'm actually heading off to sleep in about 30 minutes. :P
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> write:your going back to windows just for the res?
[07:29] <agtownz> I've found something describing what's happening.
[07:29] <tf81_netbook> Jordan_U:  thanks i'll look into it
[07:29] <write> agtownz: owh... well i'll install win7, try the resolution thingy, take a screenshot, and then install ubuntu, and i'll look for you maybe tomorrow if still, i cant figure this out oke ?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> tf81_netbook: You're welcome.
[07:30] <agtownz> "The native resolution of the computer 1024x600 doesn't change. The software compresses the icons and text to make it appear as a higher resolution."
[07:30] <write> lotuspsychje: naaah :) just this time, to see if i'm mistaking about the 768 res in win, or win also has just 1024x600
[07:30] <agtownz> People have enabled what you describe using registry hacks, but it's not really a different resolution.
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> write: you can try ##hardware too for excact info about your res hardware
[07:31] <agtownz> There's no possible way to push 768 height pixels to hardware having only 600.
[07:31] <write> agtownz: .. can i paste a link here? or ...
[07:32] <agtownz> I suppose, I'm not really familiar with the rules. I'm not here often.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> write: and whats the purpose exactly you want this specific res?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> write:if its ubuntu support related you can paste url
[07:32] <write> lotuspsychje: my screen is wide... and with 600, it looks odd...
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> write:can you post a desktop screenshot?
[07:33] <SlimG> Is there a way for me to see what libraries a sepcific binary file is missing?
[07:33] <write> well, its a post about xrandr, dont know how relevant it is after u telling me that its dual screen related
[07:33] <write> i'll get home to my netbook in like 5 hours .. right know i'm at work somehere ( http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html )
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> SlimG: i think after installing the software u want, its gonna tell whats missing
[07:34] <write> lotuspsychje: i thought that this tutorial is what i need :)
[07:35] <write> lotuspsychje: in the sample i get like: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 1800x1800
[07:35] <tf81_netbook> lotuspsychje:  umm that failed epically lol
[07:35] <write> lotuspsychje: so shouldn;t it be able to go higher than 600... and i remember that on windows it did, but to be sure i have to reinstall it one more time and then get back to ubuntu :D
[07:35] <tf81_netbook> shuts everything off if i unplug it now
[07:36] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: It only tells me that it does not exist, I seem to remember this happening when a lib is missing
[07:36] <SlimG> by "it" I mean itself
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:what file are we talking about?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> tf81_netbook: you were talking to Jordan_U
[07:37] <tf81_netbook> oops
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> write:can you paste a desktop screenshot plz
[07:37] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5
[07:37] <write> lotuspsychje:  not right now, i have to get home from work in about 5 hours or so, i dont have the netbook with me.
[07:38] <write> BRB, 1 minute
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:is that a boot speedup prog?
[07:40] <Florin> i'm back
[07:40] <Florin> test
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !info elf
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !test | Florin
[07:40] <write> sorry for the nick change
[07:40] <syn-ack> elf isn't a program, its a binary format
[07:40] <tf81_netbook> Jordan_U:  how do i undo this?
[07:41] <syn-ack> you have major types. elf and the older a.out
[07:41] <tf81_netbook> it borked my system
[07:41] <tf81_netbook> if i unplug the power it goes back to a screen showing the boot up messages
[07:43] <tf81_netbook> ok Jordan_U is away, so does anyone know how to undo powertop in 12.04? would a apt-get purge do it?
[07:43] <write> lotuspsychje: will you be online in like 5 hours or so ?
[07:43] <syn-ack> tf81_netbook, yes. it would
[07:43] <tf81_netbook> i'll do that then
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> write:no, re-ask your question here in chat when u come online
[07:44] <write> lotuspsychje: oke, thank you... i'll check on windows what we talked here and get back to ubuntu
[07:44] <tf81_netbook> dpkg: warning: while removing powertop, directory '/var/cache/powertop' not empty so not removed.
[07:45] <syn-ack> tf81_netbook, pretty obvious what you have to do then.
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> write:im not sure what you want to acomplish reinstall win
[07:45] <tf81_netbook> syn-ack:  yep
[07:45] <tf81_netbook> working on it
[07:45] <syn-ack> rm -fr /path/to/powertop
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> write:discuss your res for windows and netbook in ##hardware
[07:46] <write> lotuspsychje: i wanna be sure, and take a screenshot even, that windows sets the resolution to 1024x768 ... if that's the case, ubuntu has to be able to do that so .. (as far as i can remember, windows did that, but not really sure), so i have to make this "experiment"
[07:46] <write> lotuspsychje: oke, ty
[07:46] <syn-ack> write, depends on the linux driver support
[07:47] <syn-ack> Just because the windows driver can do it doesnt mean jack on linux
[07:47] <syn-ack> nyRednek!
[07:47] <syn-ack> How's it going, sir?
[07:48] <nyRednek> syn-ack: it's going
[07:48] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: no, It's a remote agent for a ups
[07:48] <write> syn-ack: and how can i be sure of that, or how can i be sure that i have the best driver in ubuntu... i don't really know how to install the drivers (supposebly that linux already installes them by itself)
[07:48] <nyRednek> syn-ack: long time, no speak
[07:48] <tf81_netbook> syn-ack:  that didn't fix the problem that powertap caused
[07:48] <syn-ack> tf81_netbook, hrm
[07:48] <syn-ack> tf81_netbook, don't know exactly where to go next
[07:49] <tf81_netbook> system goes into suspend as soon as i unplug the power
[07:49] <syn-ack> don't really know how or what it does
[07:50] <syn-ack> tf81_netbook, Dude, I'd probably recommend that you'd just reinstall since it'd be easier than tracking ghosts
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:plz give me some details mate, you getting any errors on the libs?
[07:50] <tf81_netbook> sigh
[07:51] <syn-ack> write, to be sure of that you have to read the documentation for the driver
[07:51] <tf81_netbook> hehehe fixed
[07:51] <syn-ack> it's either going to be in the kernel source, if you use that one or in the package that comes with it in the case of the nvidia driver
[07:51] <tf81_netbook> went in the mate power options, clicked the make default button
[07:52] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: /usr/local/DevMan/DevManRA: No such file or directory
[07:54] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: it's a 32bit app on a 64bit ubuntu server
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:never heard of it, what does it do?
[07:56] <C0FFEE> hi
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> !info devman
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:you got an url on devman for ubuntu?
[07:57] <C0FFEE> How to stop using launchpad account. Please tell me the page on the site.
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> C0FFEE:maybe try #launchpad
[07:58] <C0FFEE> thx
[08:00] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: got a bit further, using readelf -l <file> it says it is looking for /dev/ld-linux.so.2, after installing libc6-i386 it spits out more verbose errormessages when running it, saying what lib's it is missing, thanks for trying to help me :)
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:and what libs is it missing?
[08:02] <write> Kevin`: well, i'll get back after sorting these things out oke ? Thank you for your time
[08:02] <SlimG> lotuspsychje: Plenty, but now it's no problem supplying it to the binary since it's actually letting me know which libs are required
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> write:wrong chan mate :p
[08:03] <write> lotuspsychje: =)) wow, sry
[08:03] <write> lotuspsychje:  that thank you is also for you
[08:03] <Kevin`> =p
[08:05] <write> well, guys.. i hope that we'll be keeping in touch and see each other more often :) i really wanna give ubuntu a shot and learn how to do all i need, with it
[08:06] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[08:06] <yellabs-r2> is there a way to change the colour of the unity lens overlay ?
[08:06] <soundar> hi all
[08:07] <DarkSim> I know I shouldn't ask to ask but its a question about latest ubuntu server, how to install stuff without network connection
[08:07] <yellabs-r2> DarkSim , use the cd or make an usb boot , i think
[08:08] <IanWizard-Cloud> How can i get the network load?
[08:08] <fidel> DarkSim: what do you mean by 'stuff'? installing single packages afterwards - or talking about the basic install of the os itself?
[08:08] <DarkSim> Because I was thinking of installing a DE and a Webbrowser
[08:09] <DarkSim> but I can't access internet without logging in to it via a browser
[08:09] <DarkSim> and the DE so I can try to be a client without creating a real one, its a laboration in school if you find this request wierd
[08:10] <DarkSim> So Fidel, single packages
[08:11] <aMiRi_> how can i install vuze on ubuntu 11.04
[08:11] <fidel> DarkSim: well in case your install medium includes those packages - and the cd itself is still defined as apt-source - us apt
[08:11] <yellabs-r2> DarkSim, maybe virtualbox is an option ?
[08:11] <DarkSim> It is not :/
[08:11] <[deXter]> aMiRi_, sudo apt-get install vuze ?
[08:12] <fidel> DarkSim: you could for sure as well download those packages manually and installem them later on manually as well - which is ugly. on a long time view it might make sense to setup an local apt mirror in case you have several linux boxes without network access but with update-need
[08:12] <yellabs-r2> DarkSim,  you could then install your server in virtualbox , and login with the normal desktop
[08:12] <yellabs-r2> is there a way to change the colour of the unity lens overlay ?
[08:13] <crizis> yellabs-r2, it changes color based on wallpaper color
[08:13] <crizis> yellabs-r2, also 'myunity' tool has some options for color intensity and such iirc
[08:13] <DarkSim> I have access to VB but the server is not allowed to be installed that way
[08:14] <yellabs-r2> DarkSim, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:14] <blackshirt> darksim, vb for virtual basic?
[08:14] <yellabs-r2> for some idea's on local repo
[08:14] <DarkSim> Virtualbox
[08:17] <DarkSim> So I can put the package on a USB then refer to it as a repo, did I get that right?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: just install the deb using terminal or double clicking the files.
[08:18] <DarkSim> because I just need the simplest of web browsers so I can log in and get access, then I can download everything with apt get
[08:18] <yellabs-r2> lynx ?
[08:19] <yellabs-r2> can lynx make the connection ?
[08:19] <Kartagis> how can I learn what the dependencies of a package on my system is?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> DarkSim: wget?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> DarkSim: do you already know the URL for the package?
[08:19] <blackshirt> zzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:19] <blackshirt> Zzzzzzzz
[08:19] <blackshirt> z
[08:20] <blackshirt> z
[08:20] <blackshirt> Zz
[08:20] <blackshirt> Z
[08:20] <FloodBot1> blackshirt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <blackshirt> zz
[08:20]  * mulrich|EEE throws paper balls at Batou
[08:20] <blackshirt> z
[08:20] <blackshirt> Z
[08:20] <mulrich|EEE> Anyway
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> SlimG:re-ask your question again once in a while
[08:20] <blackshirt> zz
[08:21] <mulrich|EEE> I have an issue with Ubuntu 12.04: it reboots a few seconds after I shut the computer down
[08:21] <blackshirt> Qz
[08:21] <blackshirt> Zz
[08:21] <blackshirt> Zz
[08:21] <FloodBot1> blackshirt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:21] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the tips. .. got it now
[08:21] <mulrich|EEE> I do not have access to the system right now as I'm just bored in class
[08:21] <yellabs-r2> :)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:stop that
[08:21] <blackshirt> Z
[08:21] <fidel> mulrich|EEE: how do you shutdown the comp in the first place?
[08:21] <mulrich|EEE> fidel, shutdown prompt in Ubuntu?
[08:21] <yellabs-r2> make class more interesting for yourselve.. :P
[08:21] <fidel> mulrich|EEE: so 'shutdown -h now' causes a reboot?
[08:22] <mulrich|EEE> From the terminal? Yeah
[08:22] <fidel> or clicking 'shutdown' in some obscure ui causes a reboot?
[08:22] <yellabs-r2> take care you all
[08:22] <mulrich|EEE> No obscure UI. Just the one that comes with Ubuntu
[08:22] <blackshirt> Zzzzz
[08:22] <blackshirt> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:23] <ILikePorn> HELLO
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: i believe apt-depends is a command, may help see deps
[08:23] <ILikePorn> how to install ubuntu from windows w no cd or usb?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> ILikePorn: mount the iso using magicdisk or daemontools
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:stop that before u get banned
[08:23] <Kartagis> !find apt-depends
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> ILikePorn: windows is rubbish and cannot mount ISOs without 3rd party help
[08:24] <fidel> !op | blackshirt
[08:24] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: doesn't exit
[08:24] <fidel> almost - damn that cmd worked somehow different ;)
[08:24] <[deXter]> lol
[08:25] <bkerensa> ILikePorn: Please change your nick and see PM
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: http://www.howtoforge.com/checking-package-dependencies-with-apt-rdepends-on-debian-ubuntu  which I found using: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu%20show%20dependencies%20of%20a%20package
[08:25] <llutz> Kartagis: apt-cache depeds packagename
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: too hard?
[08:25] <bkerensa> !guidelines > ILikePorn
[08:25] <ILikePorn> ok
[08:25] <bkerensa> ILikePorn: Now please
[08:26] <SomethingMoreApp> how to install ubuntu from windows w no cd or usb?
[08:26] <mulrich|EEE> ...
[08:26] <igama> SomethingMoreApp: You can install it as a VirtualMachine
[08:26] <bkerensa> SomethingMoreApp: Thanks
[08:27] <SomethingMoreApp> bkerensa i apologize for offending you. not everyone shares my enthusiastic passion for pornography
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> SomethingMoreApp: I told you already
[08:27] <timothyp> Hi, how can I set the resolution of ubuntu 12.04 to 640x480 and keep it that way, even if a screen with a larger resolution support is detected. I have to limit it to 640x480 (nvidia chipset) there's not much in xorg.conf so I'm guessing that is no longer the place to do it?
[08:27] <SomethingMoreApp> ActionParsnip - not really, you just said windows needs a third party to mount
[08:27] <SomethingMoreApp> that doesn't mean it's not possible
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> 09:23 < ActionParsnip> ILikePorn: mount the iso using magicdisk or daemontools   SomethingMoreApp: no I didn't
[08:28] <somsip> SomethingMoreApp: in the distant past I used MagicISO to mount ISOs in Win
[08:28] <timothyp> SomethingMoreApp tried Wubi ?
[08:28] <somsip> Ah. Already covered
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> SomethingMoreApp: scrolling up helps
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> SomethingMoreApp: i've told you twice now....
[08:30] <mulrich|EEE> So... the rebooting issue...
[08:31] <SomethingMoreApp> ActionParsnip - can i mount the disc and install it while in windows?
[08:32] <ozette> is there a stable version of Chrome on ubuntu? I find 21.0.1180.89 very unreliable, I can't do any web development on it
[08:32] <timothyp> SomethingMoreApp seriously have you tried Wubi to install Linux while in Windows????
[08:32] <ozette> now I am forced to dev on ubuntu and share a folder with my windows vm to see my changes correctly
[08:32] <somsip> ozette: automatic update to 22 here today. Might have been on PPA though...brb
[08:32] <zomb13> you can install ubuntu right from the web in windows using the browser http://bit.ly/SyoM8B
[08:32] <fidel> ozette: using the version google offers?
[08:33] <ozette> fider, yes
[08:33] <ozette> somsip ok
[08:33] <somsip> ozette: ah yes - I'm on PPA
[08:33] <fidel> ozette: you could as well try to use chromium-browser - < tends to be older
[08:33] <ozette> fidel, I've tried both and I find chromium-browser even more unreliable :(
[08:34] <fidel> ozette: well - both working stable here
[08:34] <somsip> ozette: been on Chrome for webdev work here for months with no probs - what's not working for you?
[08:34] <ozette> fidel, no problems with flash content and such? (youtube i.e) ?
[08:34] <ozette> somsip, especially borders aren't rendered correctly, and flash content is buggy
[08:34] <fidel> ozette: i dont see how using youtube is related with dev-dev in the first place ;)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> SomethingMoreApp: yes, using magicdisk or daemonools
[08:34] <ozette> fidel, it's just an example
[08:35] <somsip> ozette: check to see if HTML5 is enabled for youtube.
[08:35] <ozette> somsip let me see
[08:35] <fidel> ozette: to answer it differently - i use both for testing code - not anything flash related. so sorry cant help you there
[08:35] <somsip> ozette: layout and normal CSS - no probs here
[08:35] <penguinman> I will be so glad once flash dies a horrible, fiery death...
[08:36] <[deXter]> I won't recommend daemontools as it comes bundled with spyware
[08:37] <ozette> somsip, I'm running  a compass project here, and really my chrome just looks messed up. even for example when I simply changed my borders from dashed to solid, just as example it'd show the solid border but the left side of the div still had a dashed border
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> [deXter]: there is an option to not install it, all you have to do is read rather than the usual hammer next mentality
[08:38] <ozette> fidel, ok
[08:38] <[deXter]> ActionParsnip, yes, but I would rather they not support them for supporting spyware in the first place.
[08:38] <[deXter]> When there are better, spyware-free options available
[08:38] <ozette> I'm fine with coding and backend on linux, but when it comes to css or flash ..
[08:39] <somsip> ozette: I can't comment on Compass and we're probably well OT here. Maybe the Compass help forums can offer advice, or upgrade to 22 on PPA to see if that helps. Or log bugs to Chrome devs
[08:39] <DarkSim> Only recommendations I get on the web is to install regular ubuntu and add all the server tools instead *sob*
[08:39] <timothyp> Anybody know how to limit the resolution to 640x480 for both GDE and whatever window manager loads after that
[08:39] <ozette> somsip, ok
[08:40] <werner1> Hello, since I changed my monitor, I regularly have the problem that my xserver freezes. Can someone guide me to how I can determine the cause of the problem? Currently I'm typing from another computer which has a ssh running on the problematic computer.
[08:41] <napster> [deXter]: I just tried [heXter] :)
[08:41] <[deXter]> O.o
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> [deXter]: I guess, plug magicdisk doesn't need a reboot :)
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> *plus
[08:49] <DarkSim> Just quick question, when choosing between which files to download, tar.gz or .dsc
[08:49] <huhmaster> tar.gz
[08:50] <Pricey> DarkSim: Are you downloading from packages.ubuntu.com with an intent to install later? You want a .deb
[08:51] <DarkSim> Looking at unintu-desktop, it doesn't give me deb
[08:51] <DarkSim> ubuntu*
[08:51] <Boohbah> http://albaux.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-12-10-New-default-Wallpaper-329140735
[08:51] <Boohbah> lol
[08:52] <Pricey> DarkSim: You want to install the ubuntu-desktop package? Oh dear you're going to have hell trying to calculate dependencies.
[08:52] <huhmaster> hah Boohbah
[08:52] <Aristide> Hi !
[08:52] <DarkSim> Geeze its hard
[08:53] <Aristide> Its possible to decrease packet lost on a UDP Server ? (DSMidiWifi)
[08:53] <Pricey> DarkSim: .deb's can be downloaded at the bottom of the page, choose i386 or amd64 as appropriate for your arch.
[08:53] <Raji> Hello i want to configure an email for lan can any tell me how to do in ubuntu and which 3rd party tool should i use
[08:53] <DarkSim> It al began as install ubuntu server, then it all blew up
[08:53] <Pricey> DarkSim: This is a bad idea though... you should use an ubuntu cd instead.
[08:53] <DarkSim> no GUI, no webbrowser, no internet
[08:54] <DarkSim> why must they make it so hard
[08:54] <Pricey> DarkSim: Oh so the 'no internet' isn't intentional? Is it plugged into something?
[08:54] <fidel> DarkSim: it MIGHT make sense to re-summarize your entire question - adding all needed details once again
[08:54] <fidel> without spreading it to x lines - which makes it hard to follow for some of us ;)
[08:55] <Raji> Hello i want to configure an email for lan can anyone, tell me how to do in ubuntu and which 3rd party tool should i use
[08:55] <DarkSim> It's for a school lab, install ubuntu server, internet access is given when I login in on a webpage which pops up when I try to browse, server doesnt come with GUI or a browser
[08:56] <fidel> DarkSim: and who is administrating this server?
[08:56] <johnm> DarkSim: does it not come with a cli based browser? links/links2/lynx?
[08:56] <Pricey> DarkSim: I wouldn't be surprised if that web page doesn't work. Also, there's no difference between 'server' and 'desktop' except the packages installed at the start.
[08:57] <puddle> morning
[08:57] <Raji> Hello i want to configure an email for lan can any tell me how to do in ubuntu and which 3rd party tool should i use in ubuntu
[08:57] <ash_> i am moving to debian Linux soon :D
[08:57] <fidel> !repeat > Raji
[08:57] <huhmaster> guys, I have installed xubuntu .... I want to know how to get those cool desktop interfaces I see on deviantart ....
[08:57] <Raji> Hello i want to configure an email  server for lan can any tell me how to do in ubuntu and which 3rd party tool should i use
[08:57] <fidel> !repeat > Raji
[08:57] <ash_> I had been using Ubuntu 12.04 for 8 months
[08:58] <ash_> now moving one
[08:58] <ash_> on
[08:58] <puddle> ash_ and you got a reason for it aswell?
[08:58] <fidel> even if he as a reason - this is offtopic for this chan isnt it?
[08:59] <fidel> ;)
[08:59] <johnm> fidel: please try and put your words on a single line, instead of spreading it across many superfluous ones ;)
[08:59] <puddle> anyways if someone is using java ide (netbeans, phpstorm etc.) on linux and managed to set a font that doesnt look ugly and is readable pls help me out
[09:00] <fidel> johnm: there is !enter for that hrhr
[09:00] <johnm> fidel: thats quite impersonal though.
[09:00] <somsip> puddle: using default Monospaced 13 in Netbeans here and am not offended by its aesthetics
[09:00] <puddle> somsip i understand you but it still looks ugly like hell
[09:01] <johnm> puddle: you can throw additional fonts into the java_home dir (I think its under lib/fonts, but I forget), they need to be truetype. Then in the java settings (on ubuntu that should pop up in control panel I believe!) you can choose those you install.
[09:01] <somsip> puddle: subjective. UTU
[09:01] <VlanZ> so guys, can i do a script in bash that makes a ssh connection to a device and performs some changes?
[09:01] <DarkSim> Installing regular ubuntu, where can I find what packages define server edition?
[09:01] <puddle> well phpstorm allopws me to change fonts but i just cannot find any font that looks good in it, it looks okay in every other program on ubuntu just not in java one
[09:02] <somsip> puddle: I saw some blog item about a new fixed font from Adobe today...can't find it now...
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: its pretty minimal with the server kernel really
[09:03] <somsip> puddle: http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/09/source-code-pro.html
[09:03] <puddle> ty somsip gona check it out
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> VlanZ: ssh user@server 'bash -s' < local_script.sh
[09:04] <frosty> I'm using a 64bit edition of ubuntu 12.04 and I'm doing some tests in how much times it takes to allocate various memory sizes. When trying to allocate more than 2GB i get segmentation fault. Shouldn't I be able to allocate more?
[09:04] <awestroke> frosty: code plx
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> frosty: how much RAM do you have?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> VlanZ: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/305035/how-to-use-ssh-to-run-shell-script-on-a-remote-machine
[09:05] <awestroke> frosty: check the return value from malloc, it can fail
[09:05] <frosty> i got 3.9 GB ram
[09:06] <frosty> this is the code, http://pastebin.com/S7B3H9H3
[09:06] <tapout> what app is used on ubuntu to convert videos?
[09:07] <VlanZ> ActionParsnip: thanks for the feedback; can i also perform an IP address / hostname check to verify if it's modified and execute this script when t changes?
[09:07] <Pricey> tapout: handbreak? ffmpeg? mencoder? etc. etc.
[09:07] <somsip> tapout: ffmpeg or mencoder are popular I believe
[09:07] <SomethingMoreApp> WITHOUT
[09:07] <tapout> thanks
[09:08] <awestroke> frosty: use valgrind and gdb to find what causes the segfault
[09:08] <tf81_netbook> tapout:  if you want one with a gui, i like handbrake
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> VlanZ: sure, you can grep / awk the output and then perform some logic based on the recovered data.
[09:08] <puddle> one more thing I would need help with, anyone can point me to a good documentation how can I set my 4th 5th 6th 7th mouse button (razer diamondback) because i need to switch some functionality, im right handed -.-
[09:08] <awestroke> frosty: compile with -g flag and then: valgrind --attach-db=yes ./testprogram
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> SomethingMoreApp: without what?
[09:09] <VlanZ> ActionParsnip: that will be very helpful, do i have to use "if" parameters?
[09:10] <tapout> i like handbrake but i can't specify that I want *.avi  ( for some reason, my asus transformer running DiceVideo, won't let me increase video playback speed on *.mp4 and *.wmv), only *.avi and *.mov
[09:10] <shiju> how to open an ununtu share foler in other computer using ubuntu?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> VlanZ: as you like. Its very powerful
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> tapout: tried ffmpeg?
[09:11] <tf81_netbook> what about .mkv?
[09:11] <tapout> mkv's are sluggish so the playback would probably be choppy
[09:11] <Eagleman> I have network cards attached with lspci but they wont shwo up with ifconfig -a
[09:12] <Eagleman> How do i get them to work?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: is there a switch/router in between?
[09:12] <Eagleman> Its on esxi
[09:13] <Eagleman> SO i think it is a virtual switch
[09:13] <Eagleman> Other machines are working on that switch
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: I'd check in #vmware to make sure the VMs are correctly configured. The OS will see the interfaces it is given
[09:13] <johnm> frosty: 3.9GB looks anm awful lot to me like a 32bit kernel with PAE
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: also check with:  sudo lshw -C network
[09:14] <johnm> frosty: you need both 64bit applications, and a 64bit kernel, with a 64bit CPU to have it work, and then it does depend on how you write your application as well (although it's much harder to get wrong on a 64bit box ;))
[09:15] <frosty> awestroke, this is what comes out of it http://pastebin.com/WhDz0VHK
[09:16] <johnm> frosty: paste the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo; uname -a; ldd `which gcc`"
[09:18] <DarkSim> Jesus, this school blows
[09:18] <DarkSim> can I try live USB made of 64bit on a 32bit machine?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: no, it won't run
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you can run 32bit OS on 64bit CPU though
[09:20] <DarkSim> Darn it, and I can't create bootables in windows on this junk
[09:20] <DarkSim> cuz it is blocked by admin
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: sure you can, unetbootin runs on windows too
[09:20] <frosty> johnm, http://pastebin.com/nW2EkqH2
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: there are tonnes of bootable USB creators. Are you serious??
[09:20] <DarkSim> gonna try uboot
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/linux-live-usb/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: to name just 2
[09:21] <johnm> frosty: that looks OK, check ulimit isn't restricting you (ulimit -m)
[09:21] <johnm> frosty: ulimit -v will be relevant too.
[09:21] <DarkSim> Huzzah it worked
[09:21] <DarkSim> thanks a lot
[09:22] <frosty> johnm, both says unlimited
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: np
[09:25] <SomethingMoreApp> ActionParsnip - not sure how well this is working
[09:25] <SomethingMoreApp> it kept insisting on me restarting with the cd in the drive
[09:25] <johnm> frosty: and you're just calling malloc()?
[09:26] <frosty> johnm: yes, and writing one character on each "page" so it really gets allocated
[09:26] <johnm> frosty: and you're allocating how much each time?
[09:27] <frosty> johnm: from 100 mb up to 2 gb (where segmentation fault comes after)
[09:28] <Guest31137> good morning people
[09:28] <johnm> frosty: ah, so you're looking to allocate more than 2G in a single set?
[09:29] <frosty> johnm: yes, that was the test. Is that even possible?
[09:29] <DarkSim> Can't even format my own USB, darn limitations
[09:29] <Guest31137> is there anyone home?
[09:29] <fidel> !ask | Guest31137
[09:29] <johnm> frosty: it should be possible yes, but that'll explain the valgrind warnings you see.
[09:30] <johnm> frosty: I'm not sure why you're seeing that limit, quite frankly, it would need some investigation. Just for the sake of trying, can you iterate over 500MB or so 5 times and see if they all succeed?
[09:30] <johnm> frosty: in the same execution of course.
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest31137  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[09:33] <spuz> hi, what is the name of the search window that appears in ubuntu 11+ when you press the "windows" key?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> spuz: dash
[09:34] <spuz> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:35] <spuz> oh it's as of 12 actually
[09:35] <frosty> johnm: this is the output http://pastebin.com/qLrP5iBm although i didnt change all of the script so pay no attention to my programs output
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> spuz: is it not in Oneiric? I though it used Unity shell too?
[09:37] <Sergius> hi everyone, i need help with ubuntu 12.04
[09:38] <Sergius> can anyone help me? it's about lagging video with fullscreen mode
[09:38] <keeguon> Hey, for any advanced UFW users out there, does anybody know if this is possible to source another file in the before.rules file?
[09:39] <johnm> frosty: so that works fine then.
[09:40] <VlanZ> ActionParsnip: last thing, could you point me to a tutorial where i can learn how to use the "if" command and how to store variables?
[09:40] <Sergius> hey people?
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Sergius  start with a question
[09:41] <daanish> I just installed xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, and now there are two bluetooth applets on the top right taskbar, how do I make one of them go away?
[09:41] <SomethingMoreApp> ActionParsnip - yea so it didn't work
[09:41] <TRON> Hi @ all, i need help with ubuntu 12.04 server / bonding / e1000e driver intel card 4 Port /
[09:41] <SomethingMoreApp> i got some error about file system medium because it forced me to restart
[09:41] <Sergius> how fix lagging video in any player on fullscreen mode in ubuntu 12.04?
[09:42] <Schmoo> Hello! does anybody know if a Ubuntu have a spannish channel? i need suport, and i think my english is not very good to understan or explain my ptoblem.
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> !es
[09:42] <Sergius> or how make nice metacity --replace, cause all menus hide
[09:43] <SomethingMoreApp> I was told i could install ubuntu from windows by mounting it in a virtual drive. i did so, and it told me to restart to continue, and upon restarting and booting to ubuntu to "continue installation" it complains about unable to find file system medium
[09:44] <johnm> frosty: I can't recreate it here (but I run fedora), and I do see a few people complaining about an identical problem with 12.04
[09:44] <TRON> mii-tool say SIOCGMIIREG on eth1 failed: Input/output error   @ eth1 / 2 / and 3 all use e1000e driver
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> SomethingMoreApp  sounds like you're mixing a virtual machine and wubi
[09:44] <johnm> frosty: out of interest, have you tried on another 64bit distribution just to clarify?
[09:44] <Axsuul> How come when I do, /bin/su - joe -c  -i 'echo $PATH', it gives me the correct $PATH under joe, but without the -i, it doesn't, and `su` doesn't appear to have a -i argument?
[09:45] <johnm> Axsuul: man su would answer all of that :)
[09:45] <SomethingMoreApp> ActionParsnip - what you said to me before was incorrect
[09:45] <Pricey> Axsuul: I'm not sure what '-i' is meant to be? But you want "-c 'echo $PATH'" with nothing said between it?
[09:46] <johnm> Axsuul: the -i is passed as an argument to the shell, not su.
[09:46] <frosty> johnm: Im running mint 13 on my laptop (if that counts as different consider all they share) and it fails above 2GB too.
[09:46] <spuz> ActionParsnip, actually, yes it is (I'm using 11.10) do you know what the difference is between the Dash and the HUD?
[09:46] <Sergius> please!!! help me fix video... all movies lags in fullscreen mode.... ubuntu 12.04... any player...
[09:46] <Axsuul> johnm: what does -i do? my shell is zsh, and -i is interactive mode
[09:46] <johnm> frosty: if you're happy to share the code, i can test yours directly here and see what it is.
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> Sergius  start with some detzails, type of card etc
[09:47] <Axsuul> Pricey: if I put -i in between, it gives me the correct path
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> details*
[09:47] <Axsuul> Pricey: as if I've logged in
[09:47] <SomethingMoreApp> i feel violated
[09:47] <johnm> Axsuul: -i is indeed interactive mode, which sets an interactive shell/tty. I'm not sure on zsh but typically that would mean it will read in shell rc etc
[09:48] <Sergius> ati radeon 256 mb... and i try that - metacity --replace, and video was fine... but all menus hide
[09:48] <johnm> Axsuul: $PATH is only set when you parse the system and user rc/profiles
[09:48] <Axsuul> johnm: cool, that makes sense. Is there anything wrong with putting a -i there?
[09:49] <johnm> Axsuul: Not at all/.
[09:49] <Axsuul> johnm: just wanna know if I'm doing it "correct"
[09:49] <parre90090> hi everyone
[09:50] <Schmoo> Hi! Does anybody can help me?
[09:50] <vladimir_> Yes
[09:50] <fidel> !ask | Schmoo
[09:50] <truexfan81> Schmoo: just ask your question, if someone can help, they will
[09:51] <Schmoo> Thanks, is my first in the Chat
[09:51] <frosty> johnm: http://pastebin.com/Z3r2uxa5
[09:51] <SomethingMoreApp> i tried to install ubuntu from a virtual drive and it fails
[09:51] <parre90090> hi!
[09:52] <Schmoo> This is my problem.
[09:52] <Schmoo> I have a Gsky RT8187L 500MW USB adapter, Ubuntu doesnt have problems to find the hardware, i mean the network mananger can conect to free networks arround.
[09:52] <Schmoo> But, the conection only remain arround 30 seconds, i mean, i can open the internet browser type a url, and the browser only partial load a webpage.
[09:52] <Schmoo> The network mananger says im still conected, but the browser doesnt load any webpage, also the package mananger and any other app that need internet dont show anything.
[09:52] <Schmoo> Just for curiosity, when i make my fresh Ubuntu instalation via Live USB, the installer give me the option to conect to internet to download some files, i select the network and download whitout troubles (maybe only speed problems).
[09:52] <Schmoo> Right now i dont have acces to a wired internet to download things via package mananger, but i can acces to internet to donwload any required file whitout troubles using windows.
[09:52] <parre90090> Where are (which directory) the Empathy log files on Ubuntu 12.04?
[09:53] <antivirtel> hi! I'm using the lastest 12.04 with the lastest xchat. The problem is that there is no xchat icon in line with the time... there is a setting to display it, but it seems not to work, do someone know about a bugreport of it?
[09:54] <vladimir_> mabe in /home/user/.cache | parrer90090
[09:54] <truexfan81> i believe xchat is no longer being developed, anyone feel free to correct my if i'm wrong
[09:54] <truexfan81> my=me*
[09:54] <IdleOne> truexfan81: you are. antivirtel make sure you have xchat-systray installed
[09:55] <truexfan81> IdleOne: i am wrong?
[09:55] <IdleOne> truexfan81: unless they just recently stopped developing
[09:55] <parre90090> Where are (which directory) the Empathy log files on Ubuntu 12.04?
[09:56] <truexfan81> IdleOne: last time i checked the last xchat update was over a year ago
[09:56] <vladimir_> parre90090 why not use Chrome
[09:57] <antivirtel> IdleOne there is no package called xchat-systray in the repos
[09:57] <truexfan81> IdleOne: http://xchat.org/files/source/2.8/?S=D
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> !find xchat
[09:57] <frosty> parre90090: ~/.gconf/apps/empathy/conversation
[09:57] <truexfan81> 29-May-2010 23:41
[09:58] <johnm> frosty: it just works here, even setting a huge increment.
[09:59] <frosty> johnm: strange. But then I know its nothing wrong with the code
[09:59] <johnm> frosty: im just running it again to see if I can work out whats going on... I have an ubuntu vm somewhere, I'll dig it out. I have 5-10 mins :)
[10:00] <IdleOne> antivirtel: sorry xchat-indicator
[10:01] <antivirtel> IdleOne I've installed it, it is not enough, it just warns me if there is highlight, the icon is better
[10:01] <frosty> johnm: thank you, you're being very helpful
[10:01] <IdleOne> antivirtel: I guess there isn't one
[10:02] <truexfan81> brb hexchat update
[10:02] <antivirtel> IdleOne - but why has the icon disappeared?
[10:02] <IdleOne> antivirtel: I don't know
[10:03] <parre90090> frosty my empathy is on defaul settings at the moment. I caheck the settings of empathy too, it logs the chats. I look /home/dave/.gconf/apps/empathy/conversation but there is no log files. There is a just a simple xml file which does not includes chat logs.
[10:05] <frosty> parre90090: anything in ~/.local/share/Empathy/logs ?
[10:05] <jessekivimaki> contact me please
[10:05] <jessekivimaki> 0505764605
[10:05] <jessekivimaki> i need help
[10:06] <parre90090> frosty there is no folder Empathy inside .local/share
[10:06] <jessekivimaki> Arttu lahtinen noormarkku 29600  0505764605
[10:07] <johnm> frosty: hmm, no I don't have a good ubuntu vm to test this on anymore, sorry :(
[10:07] <frosty> johnm: it
[10:08] <frosty> johnm: its alright, now i know theres nothing wrong with the script at least :)
[10:08] <johnm> :)
[10:08] <elaminato> how can I view the active enviroment variables?
[10:09] <frosty> parre90090: run "find ~ -iname '*empathy*' -print" in command and check those folders
[10:09] <parre90090> frosty I found the logs here: /home/dave/.local/share/TpLogger/logs Thank you! :)
[10:11] <parre90090> frosty can I ask you something else? How can I remove all configuration (profile files, user files) for an application? For example I want to use Firefox like the first time. I mean to reset all setttings...
[10:12] <dr_willis> find the configs in your home, delete them  parre90090
[10:12] <dr_willis> the package manager tools to NOT touch files in the user home dirs
[10:12] <dr_willis> do not.. ;)
[10:13] <frosty> parre90090: profile should be in ~/.mozilla/firefox im not completely sure though because i dont use firefox.
[10:15] <yeaux> hello
[10:15] <yeaux> can anyone help me install firestorm, the second life viewer?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: let me search
[10:15] <yeaux> ActionParsnip is that you>
[10:16] <yeaux> awesome you're my favourite bot :)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155289/how-do-i-install-the-firestorm-viewer-for-second-life
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: hehe, not a bot ;)
[10:16] <dr_willis> the askubuntu lens is handy. ;)
[10:16] <yeaux> I know I am only pulling your CPU :)
[10:16] <crizis> hot tip: you can install askubuntu.com lens to search it right from the dash ;)
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> fallback <3
[10:16] <yeaux> i might need help ActionP got any time>?
[10:16] <dr_willis> crizis:  thats in the default search lens in  12.10
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: or this, has some git stuffs: http://forestaurora.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/setting-up-build-environment-in-ubuntu-11-10-for-building-firestorm-viewer/
[10:17] <yeaux> yes ActionParsnip I did all that
[10:17] <yeaux> i don;t know how to run it so it installs an icon
[10:17] <crizis> dr_willis, interesting. well, it's available in 12.04 repos too, anyway
[10:17] <yeaux> i already did ./etc/refresh_desktop_app_entry.sh
[10:17] <yeaux> or run ./etc/refresh_desktop_app_entry.sh
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: playdeb has snowglobe, you'll be able to install via software centre once you add their PPA
[10:18] <dr_willis> yeaux:  if you know the command to run it from terminal , make a launcher for it
[10:18] <yeaux> yeah what is snowglobe ActionP I don;t understand i saw that also
[10:19] <yeaux> i think that;s a little above my skillset unless i get help Dr_willis
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/10.10/?q=life
[10:19] <dr_willis> secondlife gpl'd their client a few years back, so thers several vairnts of it
[10:19] <yeaux> thanks AP
[10:19] <yeaux> no doubt there is dr_willis but i don;t know linux, still a novice
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: you can use those links after you run:  wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update
[10:20] <dr_willis> yeaux:  the launcher is just a .desktop file you make/edit. its a simple text file
[10:20] <root_____> q
[10:20] <root_____> quit
[10:20] <root_____> exit
[10:20] <yeaux> the launcher won;t launch hehehe
[10:20] <root_____> exit
[10:20] <FloodBot1> root_____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> root_____  it's /exit
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: yes, read what I put next...
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> root_____  it's /quit
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: you need the extra source so you can use the links
[10:20] <yeaux> ahh okay AP
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: why the 'hehehe' on the end?
[10:22] <yeaux> hehehe is a common form of nervous laughter when you are out of your depth and faced by what is seen as a surmountable task in front of experts who find it easy
[10:22] <yeaux> silly question but could one of you maybe login into my terminal and do it for me ?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: its not needed, it has no value to the situation
[10:23] <yeaux> really but i am only a lil gurl
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: all you have to do is copy and paste the command I gave and run it, nopthing more
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: inviting complete strangers onto your PC isn't wise
[10:23] <yeaux> it might not help but it's just my way of communicating my frustration, granted it is not necessary
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> yeaux: just copy the command as one line and run it in terminal. Its nothing complicated
[10:24] <yeaux> okay as one line with or without the snowglobe bit
[10:24] <EmoBoiix3> Anyone knows to enable USB Modem Sticks like the Huawei E1550 to work on my laptop running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit?
[10:24] <yeaux> do i need the first url you provided
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> EmoBoiix3  try installing usb-modeswitch
[10:28] <EmoBoiix3> MonkeyDust I already did that but I don't know how it works.
[10:28] <manolo> hi there, i would like to download a webpage... i've tried so far with wget but I don't know how to do it since the webpage requires authentication, any tip?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[10:29] <EmoBoiix3> ActionParsnip thanks!
[10:30] <timfrost> johnm: what was the issue with your code?   On 64-bit linux, an int overflows at about 2G. I changed the inner loop to use 'unsigned long int i=0;' and it has gone past 6600 without segfaulting
[10:32] <johnm> timfrost: it wasn't my code, it was fine for me.
[10:33] <timfrost> johnm: got it - frosty posted the code
[10:33] <frosty> timfrost: it was my code, i will try out what you suggested :)
[10:34] <timfrost> frosty: I got a core dump at 2G, and the value of 'i' had gone negative
[10:36] <frosty> timfrost: it worked fine now, thank you for your help
[10:37] <zack> Hey gys, is gnome worth installing?
[10:37] <zack> *guys
[10:37] <zack> im trying to play with the settings and make ubunut look better
[10:38] <timfrost> frosty: glad to hear.
[10:40] <fidel> zack: i guess you have to answer it yourself if its worth for you ;)
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> zack  install it, see what you can do
[10:40] <fidel> opinions are like asses - everyone has one ;)
[10:40] <dr_willis> gnome-shell uses javascript zack so you can do a lot with it i hear
[10:40] <manolo> zack: i'd say yes
[10:40] <dr_willis> i will stick to unity.
[10:41] <manolo> zack: maybe because i'm just so much fan of zenity
[10:41] <yeaux> thank you all so much for your patience
[10:42] <yeaux> ActionParsnip youre the best!
[10:42] <zack> Wow, crash
[10:42] <zack> sorry, somone sent me a message and i didnt see it
[10:42] <dr_willis> gnome-shell uses javascript zack so you can do a lot with it i hear
[10:42] <zack6849> Alrighty
[10:42] <zack6849> Thanks
[10:43] <fidel> zack6849: in short: some like it - others dont - experience it yourself
[10:43] <zack6849> Alright
[10:43] <dr_willis> i tend to stick with ubuntu defualts becsue  i do a lot of support here. so i need to know what the defaults are. ;)
[10:44] <dr_willis> and unity works well for me
[10:44] <zack6849> Oh, one other thing
[10:44] <zack6849> youtube ffullscreen looks retarted in ubuntu
[10:44] <zack6849> Any ideas why?
[10:44] <dr_willis> give more details....
[10:45] <dr_willis> not vague descriptions
[10:45] <zack6849> It doent od actual fullscreen like it did on windows
[10:45] <zack6849> it streatches it horizontally
[10:45] <zack6849> and not vertically
[10:45] <dr_willis> never noticed the issue here
[10:45] <zack6849> Hmm
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: which browser are you using?
[10:46] <dr_willis> i tedn to use flash downloader, and flash-replacer extensions to watch videos in vlc however
[10:46] <zack6849> Firefox.
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: have you tested in others?
[10:46] <zack6849> Nope
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: think you should?
[10:46] <zack6849> Is chromium availible for ubuntu?
[10:46] <dr_willis> of course
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> zack6849  yes, i use it
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: see if its specific to firefox or not...explore the issue a little
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> as default
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser | zack6849
[10:47] <blazemore> When does 12.04 LTS go EOL?
[10:47] <dr_willis> and googles chrome is avail, and has its own flash you can enable i belive
[10:47] <dr_willis> !eol
[10:47] <dr_willis> !12.04
[10:48] <dr_willis> hmm.. what factoid says the years.. ;) its different in 12.04
[10:48] <dr_willis> 5 years for  one part of it..
[10:48] <dr_willis> !lts
[10:49] <blazemore> Really I just need to know when it will stop receiving security updates, because I'm considering CentOS 6, and Ubuntu 12.04
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to xkill a proces after freezing the desktop?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> playing around with the factoids ;)
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> automaticly xkill
[10:49] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  since xkill uses the mouse.. it may not be doable
[10:49] <blazemore> If 12.04 goes LTS in April 2017, and CentOS goes EOL is 2020, it's looking like CentOS here. What is the upgrade path like from LTS to LTS?
[10:49] <yekoms> does anyone got a decent guide to install openvz on ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[10:49] <blazemore> We have more ubuntu experience in-house, but these are major production servers being migrated from CentOS 3
[10:50] <yekoms> i cant find anything worth while on google :/
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:any alternatives for closing a process on high load?
[10:50] <blazemore> dr_willis: why not just use kill -9 pid
[10:50] <blazemore> lotuspsychje: ^
[10:50] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  never really looked into it.
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> blazemore: i cant do nothing anymore after desktop freezes
[10:50] <dr_willis> dont just use '-9' without trying other lower le-vels first
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> blazemore:thats why i was looking for something automatic
[10:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  can you ssh in?
[10:51] <jilt007> how to block usb drive
[10:51] <blazemore> What do you mean jilt007 ?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:its on my own box recording desktop with kazam
[10:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  so... can you ssh in?
[10:52] <jilt007> blazemore:  i mean to say that i want to block  pendrvie in my system how to do this
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i could if i install ssh
[10:52] <blazemore> What do you mean by "block pendrive" jilt007 ?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: I always clean install each release personally, so LTS isn't a big thing to me :)
[10:52] <dr_willis> ssh in and see whats cauisng the issues.
[10:52] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: This is for server
[10:52] <jilt007> blazemore:  i mean to say that if some one want to use pen drive in my sytem it wil not detect
[10:52] <DarkSim> Got a really weird problem now when we are done
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: or start kazam just from terminal could show me too right
[10:53] <blazemore> jilt007: Does it show up on the left in the file manager?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: ahh then I'd go with whatever has longest support regardless of disto (for me)
[10:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  it might
[10:53] <blazemore> jilt007: Or do you want to stop people using pen drives?
[10:53] <jilt007> blazemore:  STOP USING PEN DRIVES
[10:53] <jilt007> blazemore:  sorry for caps lock it is by mistake
[10:53] <blazemore> jilt007: That's OK
[10:54] <anant> On running "bzr branch lp:nux", I get the error message "Permission denied (publickey).ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1'"
[10:54] <blazemore> jilt007: How secure do you need it to be? The easiest way is to prevent the drives from mounting automatically. But this won't stop an advanced user from mounting it themselves
[10:54] <zack6849> ActionParsnip, just tried chromuim
[10:54] <zack6849> same issue,
[10:54] <blazemore> jilt007: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences
[10:55] <jilt007> blazemore:  i just want not to mount and everything ,  fully disallow pen drives
[10:55] <jilt007> blazemore:  i  entered in blacklist.conf  and added there blacklist usb_storage
[10:56] <jilt007> blazemore:  after then in rc.local i entered modprobe -r usb_storage
[10:56] <anant> Could someone please help with solve the bzr error
[10:56] <jilt007> jilt007:  but it doesnot worked for me
[10:56] <Axsuul> Why would ubuntu use swap if its only using 25% memory?
[10:56] <dr_willis> jilt007:  checked askubuntu.com yet?  this may be answered there
[10:56] <jilt007> dr_willis:  ok going to check once more
[10:57] <dr_willis> jilt007:  may be mentioned under the various koisk lockdown guides also
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: ok can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: use http://pastie.org (or similar). thanks
[10:58] <dr_willis> kiosk? koisk? ;) i never spell it right
[10:58] <zack6849> Alright
[10:59] <jilt007> dr_willis:  not found
[10:59] <zack6849> ActionParsnip, http://pastie.org/4808469
[11:00] <Axsuul> What do you guys recommend the swappiness value to be for ubuntu server?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> !ulimit > lotuspsychje
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: what do you think of this1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146987/how-can-i-automatically-kill-a-process-when-its-memory-use-exceeds-a-specific-l
[11:03] <alecat> Hi
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !server | Axsuul
[11:03] <DarkSim> I have ubuntu server 12.04 with ubuntu-desktop installed but I can't login with unity
[11:03] <Axsuul> lotuspsychje: ?
[11:03] <DarkSim> oh
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> Axsuul:usefull server info
[11:04] <alecat> I have some troubles with "jdb2" it makes my hard drive scratch every 2 or three seconds... i have searched solutions on google but nothing works. Help :(
[11:04] <dr_willis> jilt007:  i find it amazeing you can say its not found when im still looking through dozens of search hits.. no exact matches.. but this seems interesting..
[11:04] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/116379/how-can-i-request-password-when-usb-hardware-is-plugged-in
[11:05] <Axsuul> lotuspsychje: i'm asking for opinion on it
[11:05] <jilt007> dr_willis:  Thanks
[11:06] <Shazer[2]> Hello. :)
[11:06] <dr_willis> jilt007:  this one seems to say to do what you have allready done..
[11:06] <Shazer[2]> New Ubuntu user here. :) :)
[11:06] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79043/disable-usb-mass-storage
[11:06] <Shazer[2]> Very happy with it!
[11:06] <google_360_baidu> happy
[11:06] <google_360_baidu> heh
[11:08] <Shazer[2]> It's awesome.
[11:08] <Shazer[2]> Just downloading vim, then I should probably get a proper IRC client.
[11:08] <dr_willis> itd ubuntureffic
[11:08] <zack6849> I installed gnome, but dont see any new apps / changes
[11:08] <Shazer[2]> Yes dr_willis
[11:08] <Shazer[2]> Which IRC client would you suggest, dr_willis?
[11:08] <dr_willis> zack6849:  exactly what did you install...
[11:09] <DarkSim> I just installed ubuntu 1204 server with ubuntu-desktop, I can't login anymore
[11:09] <fidel> Shazer[2]: great to hear. a general hint: this channel is focusing on troubleshooting/support - while there is an ubuntu-offtopic channel as well
[11:09] <dr_willis> Shazer[2]:  i tend to use weechat these dats
[11:09] <dr_willis> days
[11:09] <fidel> !ot > Shazer[2]
[11:09] <skulltip> morning, some websites are not loading in firefox or chrome. could someone help me please, it was working before I installed several games from the repo but it has been a week since I noticed this issue
[11:09] <Shazer[2]> Ah sorry.
[11:09] <google_360_baidu> 问下 ubuntu安装深度软件管理中心之后在安装里面的迅雷5 好像用不了啊
[11:09] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  you mean you installed 'ubuntu-desktop' on a ubuntu server, install ?
[11:10] <zack6849> "The gnome desktop environment
[11:10] <zack6849> withextra components
[11:10] <DarkSim> I wanted a gui, is that wrong?
[11:10] <zack6849> by gnome
[11:10] <zack6849> from the store.
[11:11] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  so you login at the lightdm login screen and what happens exactly
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  it's unusual
[11:11] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  does the console login work
[11:11] <DarkSim> I can login as guest
[11:11] <dr_willis> zack6849:  you did select gnome at the login screen?
[11:11] <zack6849> Nope
[11:11] <zack6849> Do i need to reboot?
[11:11] <zack6849> Cause it didnt say so, wasnt sure yet
[11:12] <dr_willis> zack6849:  select gnome at the login screen
[11:12] <zack6849> alright
[11:12] <zack6849> brb
[11:12] <DarkSim> It turns black and some text shows up quickly then I'm back at the login screen
[11:12] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  try the console. it sounds like some messed up user setting/file.
[11:12] <cheteen> Although there are enough disk space, I get an error message that is not enough disk space
[11:13] <dr_willis> like .Xauthority or the various .gnome* settings
[11:13] <DarkSim> I'll get back to that in a while, reinstalling ubuntu server fresh
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> cheteen  type df -h|pastebin and paste the url here
[11:13] <ManK> hello
[11:14] <ManK> hamburgers!
[11:14] <cheteen> df: `/root/.gvfs': Erişim engellendi
[11:14] <cheteen> Dosyasistemi     Boy  Dolu   Boş Kull% Bağlanılan yer
[11:14] <cheteen> /dev/sda6        15G  3,6G   11G   26% /
[11:14] <cheteen> udev            1,5G   12K  1,5G    1% /dev
[11:14] <cheteen> tmpfs           588M  948K  587M    1% /run
[11:14] <cheteen> none            5,0M     0  5,0M    0% /run/lock
[11:14] <FloodBot1> cheteen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <cheteen> ok
[11:15] <zack> errm
[11:15] <zack> Where would i select that, because i didnt see it
[11:15] <cheteen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228278/
[11:16] <zack6849> I rebooted
[11:16] <zack6849> all i noticed
[11:16] <zack6849> was that the background for grub changed.
[11:16] <fidel> zack6849: still taking about choosing gnome at login-manager?
[11:16] <zack6849> YEah >_>
[11:16] <fidel> if so - are you still using the default login-manager lightdm?
[11:16] <zack6849> Yep
[11:16] <zack6849> Most likley.
[11:16] <DarkSim> Zack, where you type in your password
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> cheteen  when does the error come up, what are you trying to do
[11:17] <fidel> zack6849: http://it-diary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lightdm-unity-greeter-session-chooser.jpg
[11:17] <DarkSim> click the little icon which looks like a ubuntu icon
[11:17] <zack6849> Hery
[11:17] <zack6849> *herp
[11:17] <fidel> click the white circle - and lightdm should show you your available options
[11:17] <zack6849> Brb
[11:17] <cheteen> I cant anybody download
[11:18] <fidel> cheteen: could you please try to aks a full question / as in full sentence?
[11:18] <zack> Yay! i havve no idea what im doing again
[11:18] <zack> :D
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> OK
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> I'm having problems installing vim for Ubuntu.
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> I get the error, checking for tgetent() not found
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> and it won't install vim
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> :(
[11:19] <zack6849> How do i change which screen the bar is on?
[11:19] <zack6849> nvm
[11:20] <fidel> Shazer[2]: how do you try ti install vim?
[11:21] <fidel> !info vim
[11:21] <Shazer[2]> fidel: I did ./configure.. and I got that error?
[11:21] <Shazer[2]> I downloaded the source.
[11:21] <pishguy> hi all. after installing intel vga i cant change monitor resulation of that
[11:21] <fidel> Shazer[2]: why dont youz install via apt?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Shazer[2]  try sudo apt-get install vim
[11:21] <Shazer[2]> apt?
[11:21] <cheteen> I get this error when I try to download a file from the Internet
[11:21] <Shazer[2]> I'll try that now.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: sudo apt-get install vim
[11:21] <fidel> Shazer[2]: vim is available via your paket-managmeent - whoch you should almost always use
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Shazer[2]  that's the normal and easiest way
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: why are you messing with source?
[11:22] <fidel> Shazer[2]: compiling manualy should be done only in special cases - if you NEED to ;)
[11:22] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, I am not sure, I'm new :(
[11:22] <dr_willis> using source befor you know apt exists? ;)
[11:22] <Shazer[2]> E: Package 'vim' has no installation candidate
[11:22] <Shazer[2]> I guess this error now.
[11:22] <dr_willis> !manual > Shazer[2]
[11:22] <Shazer[2]> By running the command that ActionParsnip told me.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Shazer[2]  first type sudo apt-get update
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: using  software centre and apt-get will install a large amount of what you need
[11:22] <dr_willis> !info vim
[11:23] <Shazer[2]> Who created ubottu?
[11:23] <dr_willis> is vim-full the default now? it used to be vim-light
[11:23] <pishguy> hi all. after installing intel vga i cant change monitor resulation of that
[11:23] <fidel> Shazer[2]: its one of several bots used in this irc-network - there is a team behind and a bot-team channel (which i dont remember)
[11:24] <dr_willis> pishguy:  installed how?
[11:24] <pishguy> dr_willis: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel.
[11:24] <jwtiyar> where i can get these packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228283/ fro 12.04
[11:24] <pishguy> dr_willis: my ubuntu is 10.10
[11:25] <Shazer[2]> how do you find out package names to use with apt-get?
[11:25] <BebopSteve> I'm having some really strange issues with everpad on ubuntu 12.04.  When I add an image it does nothing, and when I try to force a sync it confirms a sync is in progress but then about 5 seconds later it's right back to last sync whatever time ago
[11:25] <fidel> Shazer[2]: apt-cache search SEARCHPHRASE
[11:25] <dr_willis> pishguy:  thought that was installed by default.
[11:25] <fidel> Shazer[2]: this will let apt search for the string SEARCHPHRASE
[11:25] <dr_willis> !10.10
[11:25] <fidel> Shazer[2]: and return a list of matching packages
[11:25] <crizis> Shazer[2], you can just use software center to install apps..
[11:25] <Shazer[2]> Aweomse! :)
[11:25] <Shazer[2]> s/Awsomse/Awesome
[11:26] <pishguy> dr_willis: yeah! its 10.10
[11:26] <fidel> Shazer[2]: a general hint if you want to work with apt in terminal. consider reading an apt tutorial - to get started with it
[11:26] <dr_willis> pishguy:  10.10 is eol. it may be yourchipset is not supported by the older drivers
[11:26] <fidel> Shazer[2]: apt comes with a lot of options - and its pretty important to understand it - at least if you want to work from terminal - instead of software -center
[11:27] <pishguy> dr_willis: after change driver from nvidia to intel, remove all of nvidia vga and installing intel.
[11:27] <Shazer[2]> Of course I want to learn terminal instead! :D
[11:27] <pishguy> dr_willis: now i cant use intel vga
[11:27] <minas> today some updates were available, but they can't be install because of some errors. Here's what update manager tells me. http://pastebin.com/za5Spkve
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> pishguy: I'd suggest a clean install of Precise
[11:27] <minas> what should I do?
[11:28] <jwtiyar> where i can get these packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228283/ fro 12.04??
[11:28] <pishguy> dr_willis: can you help me?
[11:29] <dr_willis> pishguy:  10.10 is basically dead. time to upgrade
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !find lib32ncurses5-dev
[11:29] <mrojas6996> hello
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> jwtiyar: install lib32ncurses5-dev
[11:29] <mrojas6996> I need your help
[11:30] <pishguy> dr_willis: i cant upgrade now, i must be use this version of that, i dont get permission for upgrade ubuntu
[11:30] <dr_willis> minas:  you did do a 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-ggget upgrade' ?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> pishguy: why such an old relase?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> pishguy: its not supported now
[11:31] <mrojas6996> in WIndows, the color palette could degrade from 32-bit to 256 colors
[11:31] <dr_willis> pishguy:  i dont get how you dont have permission for it. when you aparently have permissions to switch video cards/drivers
[11:31] <mrojas6996> How can to do this in ubuntu?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> mrojas6996  this is the ubuntu support channel
[11:31] <dr_willis> pishguy:  if the drivers dont support your card..  well.. you may need newer drivers
[11:32] <dr_willis> mrojas6996:  why do you need to?
[11:32] <pishguy> dr_willis: mostly installed software in this version is used by users, and time limit and security of my work
[11:32] <minas> dr_willis: yes, http://pastebin.com/riiChyRK
[11:32] <mrojas6996> MonkeyDust: Yes I know, but I wanna be to know how to change the color palette in Ubuntu from 32-bit to 256 or 16 colors
[11:33] <minas> I tried sudo apt-get install -f after, then it tells me to install those that are missing, and same error again
[11:33] <dr_willis> pishguy:  sounds like you should have planned to upgrade several months back.
[11:33] <mrojas6996> my english is experimental, sorry
[11:35] <minas> dr_willis: is it something with their server, or something wrong on my part?
[11:36] <mac_nibblet> Heya, im having an issue with our local firewall, since i replaced the server it gonna nuts on blocking everything
[11:36] <mac_nibblet> but i have the same firewall script i use from the old server
[11:36] <mac_nibblet> firewall = iptables
[11:36] <mac_nibblet> not ufw
[11:36] <mac_nibblet> i have uninstalled that
[11:37] <mrojas6996> dr_willis: i need to know this, because I wonder how it loos with the 16 and 256 colors palette
[11:39] <Shazer[2]> god damn, how many updates are there...
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: in a new install, you'll have a few
[11:40] <Shazer[2]> Alright..
[11:40] <mac_nibblet> Shazer[2]: be happy your not using Gentoo
[11:41] <Shazer[2]> mac-nibblet, haha yeah.
[11:41] <Shazer[2]> :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: same as a new install of Windows....
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> i use a custom upgrade script
[11:42] <Shazer[2]> Yeah true
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: takes the same time to install gentoo no matter what point you take :). You wil still install the same sources for each package, in Ubuntu a package may not be upgraded after a new install :)
[11:48] <mac_nibblet> ActionParsnip: im sorry, but have you ever tried to setup gentoo?
[11:48] <mac_nibblet> compiling everything from a fresh install takes a good 6 hours
[11:48] <thebananafish> depending on your pc
[11:48] <thebananafish> and cflags
[11:49] <mac_nibblet> thebananafish: top of the range ivy bridge :P
[11:49] <blackshirt> mac_nibblet, its depends on your hardware too
[11:49] <thebananafish> youre doing something wrong then mate
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: yes but it will always take that lon. I have installed gentoo before
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> *long
[11:49] <mac_nibblet> thebananafish: nah, i just have a lot of stuff i need before i can say it's ready for doing work on
[11:49] <thebananafish> long yes, 6 hours... may be a slight exageration ;)
[11:50] <thebananafish> ahh, see Im a minimalist
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: install a new release of Ubuntu and the updates will be fewer, taking less time to get the latest packages, that's my point
[11:50] <mac_nibblet> yeah i follow you there :P
[11:50] <mrojas6996> anybody helps me?
[11:51] <blackshirt> mrojas, what the problem is?
[11:51] <arian-pc> hello I installed kde-full on ubuntu 12.04.0.1  but the menu of athe gtk programms (like firefox ) are like windows 98 :)  I have this bug on only gtk programms only on kde 4.9.1  . what i can do?
[11:52] <mrojas6996> i wanna to change the color palette from 32-bit to 256 colors
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> mrojas6996: I believe you can do it in an xorg.conf file
[11:52] <mrojas6996> xorg.conf? ok! where are this file?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> mrojas6996: /etc/X11 is where it will eed to go, the file doesn't exist by default
[11:56] <dr_willis> i wonder if the xrand tools can change color depth
[11:56] <DarkSim> Dr_willis: auth: file /root/.Xauthority does not exist
[11:57] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  why are you looking in /root/ for it?
[11:57] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  you logging into x as root?
[11:57] <deviantp`away> Hey guys, can I have multiple x sessions running with different users logged in? if so what do I need to look into?
[11:58] <dr_willis> deviantp`away:  thats possible. or you could use vnc/vncserver and have 'hidden' x sessions you connect to with a vnc client as needed
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> deviantp`away: like a multiseat?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> deviantp`away  try alt-f1 and install a light window manager, like jwm or so
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> alt-f1 = ctrl-alt-f1
[11:59] <dr_willis> gdm/gnome used to have a 'new x session item' but i think its not been in the features of lightdm
[11:59] <deviantp`away> oh ok cool, cheers guys :)
[12:00] <dr_willis> deviantp`away:  itt depends on how you want to do things. and the details
[12:00] <deviantp`away> cool, well I will look into it, i prefer learning by myself just didn't really know where to start :)
[12:02] <zack6849> I get a permission denied message while moving a file, how do i prevent this?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: is the partition the folder on mounted as writable?
[12:03] <zack6849> Its /user/local/
[12:03] <zack6849> so it shouldbe as far as i know
[12:03] <thebananafish> what is the just the 7zip cli package
[12:03] <dr_willis> zack6849:  for systemm locations you need to use sudo to get root rights
[12:03] <zack6849> how do i move a ile with sudo..
[12:03] <zack6849> *file
[12:04] <dr_willis> !terminal | zack6849
[12:04] <JoshuaP> zack6849, sudo mv file/
[12:04] <dr_willis> zack6849:  sudo mv  foo bar
[12:04] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys.. so I installed vim, but I'm having trouble locating my file..
[12:04] <JoshuaP> dr_willis, why does this require answers by links from a bot? Why can't you just give answers?
[12:04] <Shazer[2]> It's on my USB?
[12:05] <zack6849> How would i do this is im moving something to/user/local?
[12:05] <Shazer[2]> Nevermind, got it.
[12:05] <zack6849> I hate to be a pain and have syntax spoonfed to me, but this is pretty confusing for me
[12:05] <dr_willis> JoshuaP:  better to show him a guide for the next 10 bash shell questions he will be asking
[12:05] <JoshuaP> Shazer[2], try find /*/file.name
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> thebananfish: apt-cache search 7zip
[12:06] <JoshuaP> dr_willis, when I come here, it completely irritates me people have to give me botlinks. I liek when people can just tell me without all the extra work.
[12:06] <dr_willis> 'give a man a fish, fead him for a day.... teach a  man to fish...'
[12:06] <JoshuaP> dr_willis, this isn't life, it's an operating system. Don't give me that!
[12:06] <kijewski> hello, can someone please explain how to report an issue to a ppa? https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !polite | JoshuaP
[12:07] <JoshuaP> -_-
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: and he'll trade his rod in, probably for a fish
[12:07] <JoshuaP> lotuspsychje, mind reading what I said up there ^
[12:07] <JoshuaP> It's exactly the reason.
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> JoshuaP:be happy someone wants to help you..
[12:08] <dr_willis> yea. lets get rid of all the documentions and guides... and just spoon feed people secret commands..
[12:08] <zack6849> Actually lotuspsychje , i think he was trying to help me a tad bit.
[12:08] <JoshuaP> lotuspsychje, they don't, though. They want to just bypass me and give me to a bot.
[12:08] <zack6849> Beause i was asking the syntax for moving a file with sudo
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> JoshuaP:most ppl dont ever read the guides wich hold usefull info
[12:09] <DarkSim> Hm non-administrative rights really is tight
[12:09] <JoshuaP> lotuspsychje, well give them the help on what they need, then point out they can find out information at so and so, as well.
[12:09] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  and thatsa a good thing.
[12:09] <zack6849> you cant honestly say you read the whole manual on every operating system youve every used
[12:09] <zack6849> You wanna go in and learn things, play around with it a bit first
[12:09] <DarkSim> We can only log in with the GUI on the regular account
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> JoshuaP:with such attitude you wont get help much here
[12:09] <JoshuaP> zack6849, and mostly thanks to this channel, that's exactly how I learn.
[12:09] <dr_willis> zack6849:  thats a neat thing about learning the bash shell.. it should be pratically the same oon any os that has bash
[12:10] <DarkSim> can't I be in the GUI with root?
[12:10] <TJ-> Problem: rsync between two hosts causing the disk-space usage to explode on the destination. Doing "rsync -av <hostname>:/usr/local/ /usr/local/" from a source file-system (7GB ext3) mounted at /usr/local/ is resulting in rsync running out of space on the destination (15GB ext4) mounted at /usr/local/. No obvious issues with symlinks, not crossing file-systems on the source. Any ideas... ?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> anyway lets keep ontopic
[12:10] <kijewski> [repeat] Hello, can someone please explain how to report an issue to a ppa? https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[12:10] <JoshuaP> lotuspsychje, I'm only pointing out that it could work wonders not to give people links rthat might sometimes not even asnwer their question.
[12:10] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  you do not directly login to the x desktop as root.
[12:10] <JoshuaP> But I don't run the Ubuntu community, so I'm go9ing AFK.
[12:10] <auronandace> JoshuaP: what was your question?
[12:11] <JoshuaP> Nice day, all.
[12:11] <DarkSim> I did get that and I thank you for the help
[12:11] <dr_willis> we did both.. gave him the command and a url for further reading..
[12:11] <DarkSim> but can't I login as root so I can change stuff
[12:11] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  you login as a user and use sudo as needed
[12:12] <DarkSim> So I can't use the gui as normal, I have to be a regular user
[12:12] <dr_willis> DarkSim:  running the gui as root is NOT 'as normal'
[12:12] <auronandace> DarkSim: the gui is meant to be used by the regular user
[12:13] <dr_willis> even logging into the console as root would be considered abnormal
[12:13] <dr_willis> 'login as a user, use sudo as needed' is normal
[12:13] <DarkSim> By normal I meant use the GUI functions
[12:13] <dr_willis> for ubuntu at least
[12:13] <DarkSim> like paste and copy wherever I want for example
[12:13] <dr_willis> you do NOT want to be running the whold desktop as root.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> oh hell no
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> nor is it needed
[12:14] <dr_willis> you can run specific apps as root. via sudo, or gksudo
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: then run:  gksudo nautilus   and you have full file system access.
[12:15] <DarkSim> Thanks
[12:15] <dr_willis> this approach is sort of a big block of the foundation of linux security
[12:15]  * lotuspsychje likes security
[12:15] <dr_willis> i would be very very carefull with even 'gksudo nautilus'
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you don't need to log in as root, not all the processes need to run as root which is what happens when you log in as root
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: its not just the apps you launch, its the panels and the desktop itself, and the window manager
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: stuff like that, not needed
[12:16] <dr_willis> many apps wont even let themselfs be ran by 'root'
[12:17] <mithran> hai i have a problem while installing k3b showing the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228348/
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> mithran: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy k3b; lsb_release -a    please use http://pastie.org (or similar)
[12:18] <zack6849> shit
[12:18] <bulek> hello
[12:19] <zack6849> ActionParsnip, what happens if somehow everything im my usr/etc/ folder got deleted.
[12:19] <zack6849> Idk how the fuck that happened, but it did
[12:19] <Pici> zack6849: mind your language here please.
[12:19] <zack6849> Sorry.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: use your backups or you can get someone to give you theres
[12:19] <zack6849> >>
[12:19] <DarkSim_Server> I'm done finally, thank you so very very much! :D
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: I don't have /usr/etc
[12:20] <zack6849> So there are usually files in /usr/etc/ ?
[12:20] <TJ-> zack6849: there is no "/usr/etc/"
[12:20] <zack6849> ..
[12:20] <jrib> zack6849: there is no /usr/etc by default...
[12:20] <zack6849> Im retarted then
[12:20] <zack6849> -_-
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> zack6849: do you mean /etc ?
[12:20] <mithran> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/4808787
[12:20] <DarkSim_Server> What is zack6849's problem?
[12:21] <TJ-> zack6849: The system has /etc/ /usr/  and for locally built/installed applications, /usr/local/etc/ /usr/local/bin/ and so on
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> mithran: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy k3b; lsb_release -a    please use http://pastie.org (or similar)
[12:21] <mithran> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/4808795
[12:22] <mac_12> hello world
[12:23] <BebopSteve> I'm unable to attach images into everpad, it simply doesn't add one when I tell it to.  When I drag the image into the note window, it refuses to save or sync
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> mithran: are there any bugs reported?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> mithran: why k3b when you are running Gnome? Seems like a lot of packages just for a cd burner....
[12:25] <mac_12> has anyone idea how to stop demon (like zeitgeist) in ubuntu 12.04
[12:25] <impaktor> Should I not be able to run sudo grub-install from the install CD? (to fix my GRUB startup?)
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: permanently?
[12:27] <mac_12> yes
[12:27] <mac_12> i'd like to save ram
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773332
[12:28] <BebopSteve> Does anyone know if everpad is still in its early development stages?  It seems pretty barebone compared to what evernote is capable of
[12:28] <Guest67411> gksudo nautilus, command of the day
[12:28] <mac_12> thank you so much......i'm going to look the link
[12:29] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: mithran You've found a bug in the k3b package, looks like a typo in the debian/control file for the Depends on libc6. Should be >=2.14 but is actually >=2.4
[12:30] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: mithran the k3b depends for amd64 is libc6 (>=2.14) but for i386 it's (>=2.4).  libc version in Precise is 2.15
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Could use brasero or xfburn until the bug is fixed
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> it wil install fewer extra packages
[12:32] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: mithran I'm checking the source package. If there's a bug I'll file it (can't find it reported yet) and push a patch
[12:35] <mbeierl> When connecting to an MS Windows 7 system using rdesktop, the cursor showing on the local image is very large and white with no border around it.  This is quite difficult to see.  Does anyone know how the cursor image is controlled in rdesktop?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: does it happen in other rdp clients?
[12:36] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, is there another one for Ubutnu?  I haven't tried it from any other os.
[12:37] <mbeierl> Ubuntu even.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: tsclient is one I can think of
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: why have you not tested with multiple clients?
[12:37] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, that doesn't exist in 12.04
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !info tsclient
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[12:38] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, because I only have ubuntu
[12:38] <bulek> I have problem - have Perl script that tries to create UDP socket listener, but get permission denied.... I have Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. Is there something preventing opening socket ?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !info remmina
[12:38] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, I also believe that tsclient was just a gui wrapper over rdesktop
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-rdp
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> thats another wrapper
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !info xrdp
[12:40] <rp2> bulek: non-root can only open ports above number 1024, at least that's the old rule
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: try remina and xrdp
[12:40] <rp2> try sudo
[12:40] <turbodr00l> HI, what can I type into terminal to check what programs are running on my network
[12:40] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, will do.  Except xrdp claims to be a server, not a client.
[12:41] <rp2> i installed xrdp yesterday, with TightVNC to serve the desktop ... worked like a breeze (especially considering all the other things I'd tried)
[12:41] <rp2> yes, it's a server.
[12:41] <rp2> rdesktop is fine as a client, but there are several more.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: ok remmina it is :)
[12:43] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, and remmina it is indeed for fixing the display issue.  thanks!
[12:43] <mbeierl> Cursor appears perfect now.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: always try alternatives to apps if you get issues
[12:44] <TJ-> mithran: bug #1056826
[12:44] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, had no clue that remmina even existed.  It's not a name that one would guess
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: search software centre for:  rdp     you don't have to guess
[12:45] <shannon> How do I get Python IDLE on Ubuntu?
[12:46] <shannon> I tried sudo apt-get install idle-python2.7
[12:46] <shannon> but doesn't work..
[12:46] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, yes, except that I've been using rdesktop for years as it comes with gnome/ubuntu.  How is one supposed to guess that there is going to be other versions of the same software out there?  The attitude that I should just know these things is not helpful.
[12:47] <Shazer[2]> Anyone?
[12:47] <auronandace> Shazer[2]: sudo apt-get install idle
[12:47] <Shazer[2]> I get the error: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:47] <Shazer[2]> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: 99% of the time there are options for solutions to an issue, think of the office suites, browsers, text editors. All have options. This is linux where you get choice
[12:47] <skulltip> why are some websites taking waay too long to load, not even timing out?
[12:47] <Shazer[2]> auronandace, still that same error.
[12:47] <auronandace> !fixapt | Shazer[2]
[12:48] <Pici> Shazer[2]: Are you using another interface to apt? like the software center?
[12:48] <fidel> Shazer[2]: are you 'somehow' trying to run 2 update-processes?
[12:48] <Shazer[2]> Nope..
[12:48] <Shazer[2]> I only have xChat, Firefox and 1 terminal open..
[12:48] <fidel> Shazer[2]: and 1 single terminal displays the lock message?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: you are having an issue with an RDP client so trying another client is intelligent, see if it is a bug with the client or if it affects all clients
[12:48] <Shazer[2]> OK, got it.
[12:49] <rp2> Shazer[2]: check with ps -auxww
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: so, in essence, you didn't help yourself.
[12:49] <Shazer[2]> Firefox was trying to get Flash at the same time, causing me to not be able to use it.
[12:49] <rp2> aha
[12:49] <coolman> Help me guys pls
[12:49] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, well, thanks for pointing out an alternative.  And for making me feel uncomfortable about asking.
[12:49] <coolman> i cant revolk
[12:49] <coolman> revoke
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl_: just try a few things first, thats all
[12:49] <coolman> one openvpn
[12:49] <coolman> client :(
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> coolman: can you ping the vpn endpoint?
[12:50] <ThinkT510> !enter | coolman
[12:50] <coolman> ActionParsnip:yes
[12:50] <Shazer[2]> well, after running that command ^^ it just sits flashing now
[12:50] <Shazer[2]> The sudo fuser command, for reference
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> coolman: does the vpn connection get fully established?
[12:51] <coolman> ActionParsnip:yes
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Shazer[2] this one?
[12:51] <Shazer[2]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228394/
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> coolman: how do you mean revoke please?
[12:51] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, ^^
[12:52] <coolman> ActionParsnip:  mail@host.domain error 23 at 0 depth lookup:certificate revoked
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: try:  sudo apt-get update   first
[12:52] <Shazer[2]> It's all good and working now..
[12:52] <Shazer[2]> I updated like 5 minutes ago.
[12:52] <Shazer[2]> I didn't mean the enter either.
[12:52] <Shazer[2]> Or something..
[12:52] <coolman> ActionParsnip: with ./revoke-full nameof xert
[12:52] <coolman> ActionParsnip: with ./revoke-full name of cer
[12:54] <coolman> ActionParsnip:and then the user connect again :D
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> coolman: http://onlamp.com/pub/a/security/2004/10/21/vpns_and_pki.html?page=3&x-maxdepth=0   may help
[12:55] <jilt007> Is there any way to save my sesson in irssi
[12:55] <coolman> ActionParsnip:10x
[12:56] <mnice> hello
[12:56] <blackshirt> hello mnice
[12:56] <kapz> histo, starting with firefox 15 my torrent links open in VLC by default in firefox however my system default is deluge. How do I make it default in ff again? thanks
[12:56] <mnice> is there some recommended and proven repo for gnome 2 ?
[12:56] <mnice> for 12.04 ?
[12:56] <blackshirt> mnice, gnome 2?
[12:57] <mnice> yes
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> mnice: there is a fork of Gnome2, its not suported here though
[12:57] <blackshirt> I think gnome 2 was obsoleted by gnome 3 :d
[12:57] <mnice> specifically gnome 2.28 should be the highest of line 2.x
[12:57] <mnice> yeah, it was .. it's like kde 4.x obsoletes kde 3.x
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mnice: https://launchpad.net/~amanas/+archive/mate-desktop
[12:58] <kapz> *Hi .. I dunno y xchat converts it ti histo
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mnice: personally I'd use XFCE and get full support
[12:58] <mnice> ActionParsnip: great .. thank you
[12:58] <jilt007> how to save my session  in irssi
[12:58] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, I have a question.
[12:59] <Shazer[2]> How do I locate my USB to save to it?>
[12:59] <thebananafish> screen + irssi
[12:59] <Shazer[2]> I'm a Windows noob if you haven't gathered.
[12:59] <jilt007> thebananafish:  thanks
[13:00] <fidel> Shazer[2]: plug in your usb-device and open your file-manager (nautilus most likely)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> kapz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission
[13:00] <blackshirt> shazer, see with nautilus file manager...usually that was show up automatically
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: you'll need to mount it
[13:00] <fidel> there isnt a real diff to windows in terms of handling usb-devices from user-point of view
[13:00] <Shazer[2]> I mean from IDLE, when I hit save..
[13:00] <Shazer[2]> I'm given /, /home or /home/shannon
[13:00] <Shazer[2]> but I can't locate the drive for my USB
[13:01] <blackshirt> shazer, usually mounted on /media/some-name-for-your-usb
[13:01] <Shazer[2]> OK Thanks :)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: once you mount the USB partition, it should appear in the panel on the left
[13:02] <Shazer[2]> How do I mount?
[13:02] <blackshirt> shazer, are your working on desktop?
[13:03] <Shazer[2]> blackshirt, yes.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: usually just shove the device in, is it NTFS?
[13:04] <blackshirt> shazer, you should see it on nautilus file manager on the left panel
[13:05] <frosty> mnice: if you want gnome2 look like mate but gnome3 you could check out cinnamon
[13:05] <mnice> thanks
[13:06] <ThinkT510> frosty: cinnamon isn't supported here
[13:06] <mnice> i'd prefer DE came from gnome 2.28 codebase
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> mnice: thats what mate is
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> cinammon is a fork of gnome shell
[13:06] <mnice> yeah
[13:07] <ThinkT510> mate isn't supported here either
[13:07] <frosty> ThinkT510: i know, but suggesting for someone to check it out is forbidden?
[13:07] <ThinkT510> frosty: why suggest to use something that you know he won't get support for?
[13:08] <ThinkT510> frosty: at the very least inform him that if he uses them he won't be supported here
[13:08] <ThinkT510> just like ppas
[13:09] <Dae> That seem like quite a good idea for a room message disclaimer.
[13:11] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, the problem I am having is when I hit save in IDLE I am greeted with the following: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg849/scaled.php?server=849&filename=screenshotfrom201209262.png&res=landing
[13:11] <Shazer[2]> I get no option to select my USB, but I manually have to go to media/usb-name
[13:12] <escott> Shazer[2], that is the USB
[13:12] <Shazer[2]> escott, I know...
[13:12] <Shazer[2]> It's just a pain having to navigate to /media/
[13:12] <Shazer[2]> instead of just having a quick toolbar to select my USB
[13:12] <escott> Shazer[2], thats because IDLE isn't using the right toolkit to draw the nice file save dialog
[13:12] <Shazer[2]> so nothing I can do about it basically, escott?
[13:13] <escott> Shazer[2], use something other than IDLE
[13:13] <Shazer[2]> haha, I don't know anything else that is decent and easy to use..
[13:13] <escott> Shazer[2], gedit has python bindings and an interactive python shell plugin
[13:21] <usaguy> hi
[13:27] <john_doe_jr> Does anyone know why my ubuntu 12.04 new install on vmware font is so small…I can't even read it
[13:28] <DaemonicApathy> Is it fullscreen?
[13:28] <john_doe_jr> yes
[13:29] <escott> john_doe_jr, you might want to install the guest additions
[13:30] <john_doe_jr> I installed vmtools…is guest edition different?
[13:30] <escott> john_doe_jr, additions not editions. not sure what they call them in vmware, but its special drivers installed in the guest that allow it to better integrate with the the host
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: if you open the folder ni nautilus, you can add it to your bookmarks
[13:31] <mnice> john_doe_jr: he's confusing you with VBox think .. if you have vmware you use vmtools, if you use vbox you use guest additions
[13:31] <mnice> **thing
[13:31] <DaemonicApathy> john_doe_jr: if you type MyUnity into the Dash, is it installed? That should allow you to adjust fonts after all is aid and done.
[13:31] <DaemonicApathy> *said
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: no myunity in quantal as yet (just an fyi)
[13:32] <john_doe_jr> DaemonicApathy: what is the dash?
[13:33] <DaemonicApathy> The thing that comes up when you hti the Super key.
[13:33] <DaemonicApathy> Thank you, ActionParsnip, I wasn't sure.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: click the ubuntu logo in top left, thats the dash
[13:33] <DaemonicApathy> If MyUnity isn't there, I would suggest installing gnome-tweak-tool.
[13:34] <turtle_> ok more questions about 2 users, multiple x sessions. I can't seem to find much online, but I want to have a business login and regular login on this PC to keep them separate,  Drwillis mentioned a hiddenx session and VNC, is that gonna be the best way?
[13:34] <john_doe_jr> DaemonicApathy: it's not there….I can't even see though the font is so small
[13:35] <escott> turtle_, depends on how you want to do things. i would find a vnc session is a bit overkill. I would just ssh back to localhost and fire off individual applications as needed
[13:35] <turtle_> i'd prefer to keep them separate because i have crossovers with applications and online services that I use for both business and personal use, but would quite like to be able to login to both users, switch desktops between the two
[13:36] <DaemonicApathy> john_doe_jr: Since it's VMWare, you should probably adjust the resolution of the guest system, as per http://goo.gl/oOHnS
[13:37] <turtle_> escott, my idea (not sure how realistic) was a full desktop environment for both, so i can customise each one to its use
[13:38] <escott> turtle_, you can certainly do that. the main issue that linux has with multiple desktops is that currently its really only possible to have one desktop displayed which is accelerated. So if you want unity3d or gnome-shell you can really only do that with one session, the other will be 2d
[13:39] <ab2qik> Hi, anyone ideas about increasing size of /boot
[13:39] <ab2qik> df -h says its 89% full
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ab2qik: gparted to the rescue
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ab2qik: or you could just get rid of older kernels
[13:40] <escott> ab2qik, you can boot a live cd and install it that way, or just identify the particular kernels that are accumulating in /boot and apt-get remove the exact kernel version
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: uninstall unused kernels and it will reduce used space
[13:40] <ab2qik> yeah how would i get rid of old kernels?
[13:40] <zykotick9> turtle_: it's possible to run multiple Xorg sessions at the same time (like one on F7 and one on F8) that you can switch between (IF you have 2 users).  there was gdmflexiserver, not sure if light DM has an easy program like that (from TTY you try "startx -- :1" to start a NEW Xsession (DON'T use the same USER, or you run into problems!)
[13:40] <ThinkT510> ab2qik: use the package manager, synaptic is great
[13:41] <turtle_> escott, not a problem having a 2d desktop :)
[13:41] <escott> ab2qik, dpkg -l "*linux*3*" will list the various installed kernels with "ii" on the left, you can then "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic"
[13:42] <ab2qik> whats the command to get kernel versions displayed in /boot?
[13:42] <turtle_> zykotick9, will startx take care of everything? window management, shell etc as well?
[13:42] <zykotick9> escott: ab2qik from terminal "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" should list all kernels
[13:42] <escott> turtle_, the main concern with zykotick9's suggestion would be stability if you are using any proprietary drivers
[13:43] <zykotick9> escott: ? the drivers ati/nvidia will apply to each?
[13:43] <ab2qik> Thanks, got list of each kernel. Now to delete the unneeded ones.
[13:43] <escott> zykotick9, frequent switching of the VT with proprietary drivers is probably more likely to cause crashes
[13:44] <DaemonicApathy> Hmm... "startx --:1" seems to have crashed my tty1 terminal.
[13:44] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: try alt+f8 now
[13:45] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: xorg should be running in tty1 (so you can't use it anymore)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: if you can pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[13:45] <turtle_> ok, so what would you recommend? so i can know what to look for online
[13:45] <DaemonicApathy> Nothing, zykotick9. It returned a fatal error, and there's no change in any VT.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: we can then advise
[13:45] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: ahhh, fatal error - so it's NOT working for you :|
[13:45] <DaemonicApathy> Exactly.
[13:46] <ab2qik>  ActionParsnip: THanks.
[13:46] <escott> turtle_, there are a bunch of ways to do it. its really up to you. running another X server on a different tty, using xnest, using vnc, ssh back to localhost
[13:46] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: fyi i'd try "startx -- :1" notice the space between the -- and the :1
[13:46] <DaemonicApathy> That is exactly what I submitted.
[13:47] <DaemonicApathy> Er, nvm.
[13:47] <DaemonicApathy> Beautiful, I had forgotten the second space. Works like a charm.
[13:48] <zykotick9> :)
[13:49] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip:  its in pastebin
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: seems strange to have a separate /boot partition these days
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: can you copy the address in he browser address bar and paste it in here please
[13:49] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9, thanks for the tip. See you all after I reboot.
[13:49] <ab2qik> whereelse shold it have gone in
[13:50] <ab2qik> sure
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: when you made the paste, the address bar changed. Copy the new address and paste it in here
[13:50] <escott> ab2qik, unless you are using lvm or luks or btrfs you usually don't need a /boot
[13:50] <ab2qik> http://pastebin.com/5ZGPg28e
[13:50] <escott> ab2qik, i think grub even boots btrfs these days
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> escott: it does :)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: ok and a pastebin of the output of:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[13:51] <ab2qik> so for the moment if kernel deletion can reduce size, will be good.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: sure as there are files in /boot relating to the old kernels
[13:52] <ab2qik> Here you go sir: http://pastebin.com/w8sSrif3
[13:53] <ab2qik> i assume make all those kern deletions should reduce size well below 89% usage?
[13:53] <pranavk> what is 'Ign' in front of the urls when updating via sudo apt-get update ?
[13:54] <ab2qik> am using LVM
[13:54] <escott> ab2qik, thats why you have a /boot
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[13:54] <FloodBot1> mizz_hotty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: http://pastie.org/4809160
[13:55] <ab2qik> Exactly. New there was a reason as it was done some time back
[13:55] <wN> lvm++
[13:55] <turtle_> ok well the issue I have is startx -- :1 gives me a desktop, but no shell and stuff, kinda debating whether I need it though, as long as I can make sure docky starts with x i'll be fine
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: all the 'rc' lines are just configs and will get cleaned, those 5 commands will leave you with linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic and linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic
[13:56] <write> hello, can anyone help me with my ubuntu 12.04 ? it is a bit laggy and my sound doesn't work I have an Asus 1015BX netbook
[13:56] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: You suggest keep current version & 1 previous
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> write: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: you can, remove the older one if you want too
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: just don't remove the kernel you are using now
[13:57] <steve__> hi
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hi steve__
[13:57] <steve__> how are you ActionParsnip
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> steve__: working
[13:58] <lurk1> Hi, i have downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and want to install it from USB-Stick, but PC says: BOOTMGR not found. Where can I get the BOOTMGR?
[13:58] <sukima> Please I need help. I moved my ubuntu 12.04 from one laptop to another and can not get Xorg to work anymore. I've installed every possible driver I can find (xserver-xorg-video*) including nvidia and flgrx. Nothing works Xorg refuses to autodetect. AS live CD works. I don't understand why I can't put the Xserver the live CD uses into my own ubuntu install.
[13:58] <write> ActionParsnip: step by steb mate, this is my first time on ubuntu :) what should i type in terminal ?
[13:58] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: Sure, current kern removal would be disasterous. so will apt-remove each in trun.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> write: the command I gave, that IS the command..
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: the commands I gave will clean up for you :)
[13:59] <write> this whole thing ? wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> write: yes, all that
[14:00] <lurk1> Hi, i have downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and want to install it from USB-Stick, but PC says: BOOTMGR not found. Where can I get the BOOTMGR?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> lurk1: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:00] <intel1> dudes , any one here
[14:00] <write> ActionParsnip: should i paste here my ALSA information ?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> write: upload to the server and a URL will be made for you
[14:00] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: i need to do apt-remove on each right ?
[14:01] <intel1> cool , i think action would help
[14:01] <escott> sukima, moving ubuntu installations is usually not the best way to do this. better to !clone and copy $HOME and use something like etc-keeper to identify non-standard changes to /etc. In your case you probably have an Xorg.conf file or proprietary driver
[14:01] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: Each version
[14:01] <daanish> Youtube videos have no sound and are playing in fast forward mode. Any ideas as to what gives?
[14:01] <write> ActionParsnip: did that, should i paste here the url ?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: if you run the commands I gave it will clean you up
[14:01] <intel1> i wanna make a disk image ( ubuntu partition )
[14:01] <lurk1> ActionParsnip: Actually I copied from a CD, which worked on another PC.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> write: paste the URL in here please, its a single line so is fine
[14:01] <write> ActionParsnip: /tmp/alsa-info.txt.TbhVUzYABG
[14:01] <sukima> escott: Then how come a live CD can do it?
[14:01] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: Sorry, which specific one?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> write: ok run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.TbhVUzYABG
[14:02] <AdvoWork> i've just done iptables -L it lists Chain Input/forward/output but I see no entires so assume its not being used. If i do some entires,such as adding: http://pastebin.com/k58QW7bL how would i then remove them all,just flush again?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ab2qik: all of them, thats why I gave them all
[14:02] <escott> sukima, because the livecd doesn't have either of those thigns
[14:02] <intel1> ??
[14:02] <intel1> i wanna make a disk image ( ubuntu partition )
[14:02] <sukima> I want an ubuntu install on an external USB drive that I can move from machine to machine but live CD use this strange casper thing asuming that they will always boot from CD not USB drives
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> intel1: clonezilla can do that
[14:02] <intel1> Actionparsnip : any replacment ?
[14:03] <write> ActionParsnip: what does all this do anyway :)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> intel1: not something I've done, maybe others can advise
[14:03] <ab2qik> ActionParsnip: Thanks, will run them in the order given.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> write: which bit?
[14:03] <TJ-> sukima: Install directly to the USB stick, rather than a hard disk.
[14:03] <write> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228504/
[14:03] <escott> sukima, not all bioses support booting usb disks as disks, most modern bioses will but some wont
[14:03] <sukima> escott: I know. the computers we heve here do support it
[14:03] <intel1> ActionParsnip : k , TY
[14:04] <escott> sukima, usb-creator-gtk will create a liveUSB that will boot on most any system that has any USB boot capability
[14:04] <TJ-> intel1: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/path/to/clone.img" (replace /dev/sdXY with your particular device)
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> write: thats a lot of info about sound and the stystem, dead useful for sound issues
[14:04] <sukima> I just want to stop having to reconfigure X everytime I boot on a machine. Some are ATI some are nvidia.
[14:04] <lurk1> Hi, i have downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and want to install it from USB-Stick, but PC says: BOOTMGR not found. The datas on the stick were copied from a Ubuntu-CD which works fine.
[14:04] <intel1> TJ : i will try this
[14:04] <sukima> escott: Thanks
[14:04] <escott> sukima, then you need to avoid proprietary drivers
[14:04] <write> ActionParsnip: and what can i do ? its chinese for me :-s
[14:05] <sukima> escott: any advise on  how to undo propriatary drivers then?
[14:05] <adpunkt> Hello World !
[14:05] <escott> sukima, jockey-gtk will show you what prop drivers are installed
[14:05] <sukima> escott: Thank you for your help!
[14:06] <TJ-> sukima: I install ubuntu-minimal to USB sticks, then add whatever additional packages I need depending on the purpose of the installation (forensics, debugging, repair, etc.)
[14:06] <lurk1> and again: Hi, i have downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and want to install it from USB-Stick, but PC says: BOOTMGR not found. The datas on the stick were copied from a Ubuntu-CD which works fine.
[14:06] <escott> lurk1, how did you create the USB
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> write: it helps helpers find out the issue
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> write: if you run:  alsamixer  are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[14:07] <write> ActionParsnip: where can i find a helper then :)
[14:07] <intel1> TJ : this ""sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/path/to/clone.img"
[14:07] <TJ-> lurk1: "BOOTMGR" is a Windows boot-loader, not Ubuntu
[14:07] <intel1> TJ : should i type "to"
[14:08] <intel1> or i replace it by my partition and folder
[14:08] <lurk1> escott: copied the stuff from the CD on the Stick using Win7. Just drag & drop.
[14:08] <escott> lurk1, you can't make bootable systems like that.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> write: in here
[14:08] <intel1> TJ : is that image would erase the whole disk which i will save it on ?
[14:08] <TJ-> intel1: You replace /dev/sdXY with the device where you have Ubuntu installed. You replace "/path/to/clone.img" with the path and filename you wish to write the clone to.
[14:08] <escott> lurk1, there should be instructions on ubuntu.com on how to create a bootable USB from windows
[14:08] <write> ActionParsnip: i;m in alsamixer, what should i be looking fore ..
[14:08] <sukima> TJ-: basically I have myh own external drive with 50GB for linux. The company I work at lets us use laptops but doesn't want us to touch the HDD in the laptop. So having linux on an external drive lets me have my desktop when I want it. However they keep changing the laptops out for different hardware like once a month and each time the linux install assumed it only had that hardware and will never have more. I figure Why can;
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> write: read the interface, just a little
[14:09] <intel1> aha
[14:09] <intel1> i see
[14:09] <intel1> dd: opening `/dev/sda5/ubuntu.img': Not a directory
[14:09] <intel1> TJ : dd: opening `/dev/sda5/ubuntu.img': Not a directory
[14:09] <TJ-> intel1: If you wish to write the cloned image, not to a file, but to another disk as a partition (after making sure the receiving partition is large enough to take it) you'd do "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/dev/sdAB" - replacing sdXY and sdAB with the specific devices on your system
[14:10] <write> ActionParsnip: card: HD audio generic, chip ati R6xx HDMI :-s item S/PDIF
[14:10] <lurk1> thanks escott
[14:10] <escott> sukima, thats a real pain. i would suggest just running ubuntu inside virtualbox. then just keep the vbox image on the usb
[14:10] <francisco> eeirrbt
[14:10] <francisco> ola
[14:10] <intel1> TJ : dd: opening `/dev/sda5/ubuntu.img': Not a directory
[14:10] <daanish> Youtube videos have no sound and are playing in fast forward mode. Any ideas as to what gives?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> write: ok and are all the levels high, is there an MM in the bottom of the levels?
[14:10] <intel1> TJ : i got this ................
[14:10] <escott> sukima, the virtual machine takes 10 minutes to setup and the virtualized hardware will free you from having to worry about the laptop specs changing with the moon
[14:10] <sukima> escott: I'll look into it thanks
[14:11] <Guest43521> HELLO
[14:11] <TJ-> sukima: Any Linux install - except for proprietary drivers - will boot on *any* hardware configuration. Unlike Windows, it doesn't tie itself to a hardware profile
[14:11] <rp2> can Samba be made to use /etc/password and /etc/shadow for user authentication?  I can't find an answer in its documentation
[14:11] <write> ActionParsnip: there is a 00 down in the middle, in a small box
[14:11] <sukima> TJ-: Yeah I installed propiatary drivers before I realized that. Now I have to figure out how to undo that
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> write: then use cursors to select the channel and increase the volume
[14:12] <TJ-> intel1: You can use a *path* (/path/to/filename.ext) or you can use a device name (/dev/sdXY) as an input or output file (if=/of=)... you can't mix them together
[14:12] <escott> sukima, you can follow TJ-'s suggestion and use a plain vanilla ubuntu and it will boot, but then some things wont work... like when the wireless card is broadcom and you need wireless internet.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> write: after you finish there (press ESC to exit alsamixer), search for 'sound' in dash and make sure the correct device is selected as the output device
[14:13] <TJ-> sukima: "sudo jockey-text" at a terminal allows you remove/configure/install proprietary drivers
[14:13] <write> ActionParsnip: it works, i've hit F6 and changed there something :) youtube plays now, but very very laggy :-s... anyway, the sound is on i guess
[14:13] <sukima> TJ-: Thank you
[14:14] <sukima> escott: hind sight. My next time making a linux desktop will be in virtualbox thank you for the advise
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> write: nice
[14:14] <TJ-> escott: sukima If you install the broadcom drivers, a broadcom device will be detected and configured correctly.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> write: switch to Unity2D session, you'll find its quicker
[14:14] <dzhus> when writing Ubuntu installer to USB stick, what name should I give to the file with CD iso image?
[14:14] <emamdouh> hi , i'd like to know where does users-admin tool write its configuration
[14:15] <write> Acoke, let me see how to do that
[14:15] <dzhus> shall ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso work?
[14:15] <emamdouh> i need to check effect of auto login from users-admin
[14:15] <write> ActionParsnip: *
[14:15] <intel1> what will happend if i unmounted the ubuntu partition
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> dzhus: there is no naming, you use unetbootin and it copies the data. Copying teh ISO to the drive will not make a bootable USB stick
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> write: its selected on the login screen
[14:16] <escott> TJ-, and then he is back to installing prop drivers. some day sukima is going to get a laptop with a brand new graphics card that nouveau doesn't support well and will be running at 640x480.
[14:16] <TJ-> emamdouh: autologin relies upon the user being added to the "nopasswdlogin" group, and pam_succeed_if.so in /etc/pam.d/*
[14:16] <write> hmm, i have to logout then
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> write: yes
[14:16] <ThinkT510> intel1: it will unmount, unless it is in use
[14:16] <dzhus> ActionParsnip: according to https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html copying .iso is what I should do in order to get bootable USB stick
[14:16] <TJ-> escott: I do it all the time. The stick has drivers installed and I switch between them as necessary.
[14:16] <dzhus> «If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy an Ubuntu ISO image[8] onto the stick.»
[14:16] <intel1> ThinkT510 : srr i didn't got it
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> dzhus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> dzhus: you'll need software
[14:17] <ThinkT510> intel1: you cannot unmount a partition if it is currently in use
[14:18] <write> ActionParsnip: be right back then
[14:18] <intel1> i C
[14:18] <emamdouh> TJ- : Thanks a lot
[14:19] <DaemonicApathy> It turns out, starting a second X session on the same account can completely reset your compiz settings.
[14:19] <bleona> How can I install ubuntu in a laptop without an operating system? can someone help me?
[14:20] <DaemonicApathy> bleona: Create a startup disc with another computer, and boot the OS-less laptop from the disc.
[14:20] <ThinkT510> bleona: same as you normally would
[14:20] <turtle_> DaemonicApathy, I think someone pointed out not to run it on the same user ;)
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> bleona: just boot to the install media and set it up. you don'y need an OS to install Ubuntu
[14:20] <DaemonicApathy> turtle_: I wasn't giving the option not to, but I figured I'd share the info.
[14:20] <DaemonicApathy> *given
[14:20] <bleona> Ok thanks
[14:21] <ab2qik>  f
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> bleona: just like yu don't need an installed OS to install Windows ....
[14:21] <DaemonicApathy> A guy at Best Buy told me that without Windows, a PC is just a paperweight. He seemed wise.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> haha funny
[14:22] <DaemonicApathy> So I booted a display into Ubuntu, and told him to have fun.
[14:23] <mneptok> DaemonicApathy: why not just point to the Macs they're selling?
[14:23] <DaemonicApathy> They don't consider those "PCs"...
[14:23] <TJ-> Expensive paperweights!
[14:23] <mneptok> DaemonicApathy: PC = personal computer.
[14:23] <turtle_> DaemonicApathy, i guy in best buy told me there was a button the remote for plasma tv's which changed the pressure of the plasma cells
[14:23] <DaemonicApathy> mneptok: they = not me
[14:24] <turtle_> *a
[14:24] <mneptok> DaemonicApathy: so my question stands. why not point to the Macs?
[14:24] <DaemonicApathy> Nice, turtle_ ^_^
[14:24] <turtle_> which was funny because I was mystery shopping them at the time
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: they are 'cool' and 'trendy' or something
[14:24] <DaemonicApathy> mneptok, because I didn't have time to get into a "what does PC really mean" conversation. :-/
[14:25] <mneptok> DaemonicApathy: would have taken less time than booting an OS they don't even sell.
[14:25] <DaemonicApathy> I had a disc on me, took maybe 30 seconds.
[14:26] <DX099> hello, I'm running 12.04 with Unity and Gnome-Shell  installed. Since a update I did a few hours ago, I can't launch Unity nor Gnome-shell anymore. GS falls back in gnome-panel mode and Unity just print "failed to load Ubuntu session" and then back at light-dm. If I try to run one of them while being in gnome-panel, it just brings me back to login, as if X crashed. Using Nvidia binary blob. can someone help ?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> DX099: can you log in to Unity2D session?
[14:26] <mneptok> DX099: you probably have to rebuild the blob for a new kernel that got installed.
[14:26] <sukima> FYI (escott, TJ-) I fixed the vieo by following the steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx and then removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:26] <mneptok> DX099: boot to the previous kernel.
[14:26] <haliaviy> 550ti?
[14:27] <DaemonicApathy> Nice one, sukima. :-)
[14:27] <|Anthony|> when running pulseaudio in system mode, is ~/.pulse/default.pa still sourced?
[14:27] <DX099> ActionParsnip, don't know, didn't installed that. mneptok, I'll try
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DX099: proprietary video drivers by any chance?
[14:27] <DX099> ActionParsnip, I said binary blob, so yes
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DX099: its an option in the login screen
[14:27] <haliaviy> use gma
[14:27] <Ethern0t> hey all
[14:27] <write> ActionParsnip: back, set it to 2D
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> write: faster>?
[14:28] <write> lemme se
[14:28] <DX099> ActionParsnip, all I have is the 3 Gnome shells and the Ubuntu with stands for Unity obviously, I once removed it and when I reinstalled it, I didn't put 2D session along
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> DX099: you'll probably need to remove the driver then reinstall it
[14:29] <DX099> ok
[14:29] <STMelon_> hmm, software-center still loads slow.. 12.04.1
[14:29] <STMelon_> 2012-09-26 09:29:29,266 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - error creating bsddb: '(11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable -- unable to join the environment')' (corrupted?)
[14:29] <DX099> I try that
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> DX099: weird, usually the 2D session s an option. Did you minimal install and then build up?
[14:29] <Ethern0t> can someone help me out when updating packages on ubuntu it gave me one strange error linux-generic-pae depends on a older version of linux-image-generic-pae, and this one has been upgraded
[14:29] <write> ActionParsnip: it seems so :-s but i have less windows open, any suggestions how to make it faster? :) the scrolling in mozilla seems laggy though
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> write: you mean firefox
[14:30] <write> ActionParsnip:  is this worth trying ? http://www.howtogeek.com/115797/6-ways-to-speed-up-ubuntu/
[14:31] <STMelon_> when someone has a chance, can i get some help with 2012-09-26 09:29:29,266 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - error creating bsddb: '(11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable -- unable to join the environment')' (corrupted?)
[14:31] <STMelon_> and thx
[14:31] <mithran> ActionParsnip:
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> write: you con't scroll in mozilla, it is a company. The browser they make is called firefox
[14:31] <write> ActionParsnip: my bad :) yes, firefox hehe
[14:31] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  it was just an interreuption in my internet
[14:32] <Ethern0t> can someone help me please ?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> write: can help:http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/08/01/slow-broadband-in-ubuntu-hardy-speed-up-your-internet-connection
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> mithran: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:32] <write> ActionParsnip: oke, ill take a look at that also
[14:32] <escott> Ethern0t, might try an apt-get update, and then try apt-get upgrade again
[14:33] <write> ActionParsnip: switching between apps sure is faster than before (doesnt look that nice,but still... thats not so important)
[14:33] <Ethern0t> escott: i ve tryed including -f install but nothing
[14:33] <mithran> ActionParsnip:http: Precis
[14:33] <Ethern0t> escott: i can t update the distro
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> write: the 'normal' desktop uses Compiz which is was slowing you down. Unity2D uses metacity which is much lighter
[14:34] <write> i see
[14:34] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  http://pastie.org/4808795
[14:34] <Ethern0t> escott:  linux-generic-pae depende de linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.30.32); no entanto:
[14:34] <Ethern0t>   A versão de linux-image-generic-pae no sistema é 3.2.0.31.34.
[14:35] <sylar_26> does ubuntu have samsung usb drivers ???
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> sylar_26: samsung make a tonne of usb stuff, what usb device is it?
[14:36] <xsaints> how many in here use conky
[14:37] <sylar_26> its a mobile phone.ill use it for broadband connection
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Ethern0t: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install  linux-image-generic-pae
[14:37] <ThinkT510> xsaints: yay conky
[14:37] <sylar_26> samsung s8000 jet
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> sylar_26: if it can advertise itself as a modem, then it'll probably work
[14:37] <mithran> ActionParsnip: I just want a iso image DVD Maker?
[14:37] <escott> Ethern0t, any pending dist-upgrades?
[14:38] <Ethern0t> escott: nop
[14:38] <Ethern0t> ActionParsnip: not working
[14:38] <Ethern0t> ActionParsnip: dependencies not satisfied
[14:38] <sylar_26> yes sometimes it can advertise as a modem, but sometimes it doesn't.connection breaks
[14:39] <escott> Ethern0t, if this is an older kernel version you don't need you could remove the particular versions
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Ethern0t: you may have to grab debs to satisfy the deps
[14:40] <Ethern0t> ActionParsnip: i am trying to find them
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Ethern0t: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mithran: for video DVDs?
[14:41] <aniasis> ubuntu is essentially Enterprise Linux 6 correct?
[14:41] <Ethern0t> Thanks for your attention ActionParsnip and escott.
[14:42] <ThinkT510> aniasis: what?
[14:43] <sylar_26> how can i play ".3gp" videos on ubuntu?
[14:43] <Linuturk> I'm trying to enable coredumps on Ubuntu 10.04 and apache2. CoreDumpDirectory set. Permissions on target directory correct. ulimit set to unlimited. kill -11 <pid> doesn't produce a core dump in the target directory. any ideas?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> sylar_26: mplayer and vlc can play it if memory serves
[14:43] <sylar_26> ok thanx
[14:45] <AdvoWork> i've just done iptables -L it lists Chain Input/forward/output but I see no entires so assume its not being used. If i do some entires,such as adding: http://pastebin.com/k58QW7bL how would i then remove them all,just flush again?
[14:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: yes
[14:46] <jrib> !iptables > AdvoWork
[14:46] <nbf> is there something up with the us apt mirror
[14:46] <jellf> hi all
[14:46] <nbf> I'm getting a bunch of hash mismatch errors
[14:46] <jellf> any one have experience to change the existing partitions to LVM
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> nbf: I have a script for that
[14:47] <TJ-> nbf: check the root of the mirror with your browser - you'll see a file there if the mirror is currently updating and maybe out of sync
[14:47] <jrib> nbf: you probably just updated as a mirror was updating; try just switching to a new mirror and doing apt-get update again
[14:47] <nbf> ok thanks guys
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> nbf: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo fixpackage
[14:48] <TJ-> aniasis: No. RH EL6 is based on kernel 2.6.32 and the RPM package system. Ubuntu Precise LTS is based on kernel 3.2 and the Debian package system.
[14:48] <chamunks> how do i enable scrolling with middle click on my mouse in unity
[14:48] <write> ActionParsnip: what can you tell me about swappiness? i mean, is it better to be higher? so the RAM is less used but hdd is more used? or viceversa... the hdd sould be less used (i have 1 gb of ram)
[14:48] <chamunks> this scrolling by line has got to go.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> write: swappiness dictates how often the swap space will be used, if you set swappiness low then the OS will try and keep apps in RAM rather than move them to swap.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> write: i set swappiness around 10 with 2Gb RAM but my usage of my systems is very basic
[14:51] <thesadmafioso1> Hey, I have a question about the GNOME desktop
[14:52] <write> ActionParsnip: and if the OS will keep apps in RAM, isnt the whole netbook going to run slowe
[14:52] <chamunks> also would there be a good way to remove .somewrongext from the end of a series of files inside of a directory?
[14:52] <chamunks> without damaging the filename
[14:52] <thesadmafioso1> I run 10.04 LTS and when I'm deleting files from my trashcan it won't update the icon to show they've been deleted. When I use the "shred" command in terminal it doesn't actually delete files, no matter the number of iterations I use
[14:52] <rgenito_> hmm, i lost the ability to drag the window to the top of the unity screen in order to maximize the window
[14:53] <rgenito_> anyone know what i need to do to restore this functionality?
[14:53] <rgenito_> i think installing an nvidia driver broke the functionality ;(
[14:53] <chamunks> i've got 450 files that obtained a bad filename through some process the files are otherwise unchanged I just dont want to sift through all of them manually.
[14:53] <thesadmafioso1> In gnome it seems like when I manipulate anything in the "backend" it doesn't manfiest in the GNOME environment
[14:53] <thesadmafioso1> For instance, taking my network interfaces up or down does not seem to make a difference in the graphical icon, which will still search for a wireless network
[14:54] <killer_> i have 32 bit windows nd 64 bit ubuntu ....can i install it using wubi?
[14:55] <xangua> rgenito_: do you have compiz settings manager installed¿
[14:56] <rgenito_> xangua, let me check... how would i know?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> killer_: i believe so, the NTFS will hold the wubi file and is loop mounted at boot then booted to, should be ok
[14:58] <killer_> so i should install it ( on my frnds pc)
[14:58] <nufan_us> Hello there.. I'm having trouble running a script from X. It works perfectly fine when I execute it in a terminal within X, but not when I double click the script and choose execute.. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing such behavior? I'm farily new to Ubuntu and Linux..
[14:58] <rgenito_> for ubuntu 12, where can i access unity graphics settings?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> rgenito_: for which video chip?
[14:59] <mandcnemad01> Hi. I've connected my ubuntu 12.04 to my router and it's now blinking like a christmas tree although I don't generate any traffic. Wireshark revealed, that a lot of udp packages are sent to port 10000. Does anybody have an idea what programm is causing that behaviour and why it stops after aprox. 3min?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> mandcnemad01: does the interface get an ip address?
[15:00] <mandcnemad01> yes
[15:00] <mandcnemad01> ip address, internet
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> mandcnemad01: can you ping the router's internal ip?
[15:01] <mandcnemad01> yes
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> mandcnemad01: are you running webmin?
[15:01] <rgenito_> ActionParsnip, when i say graphics settings, i mean to access unity features. for example, to turn on a render feature, or to turn it off
[15:01] <rgenito_> ActionParsnip, but i am using the onboard intel graphics i believe
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> rgenito_: you can use ccsm, myunity or ubuntu-tweak to change stuff
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> mandcnemad01: its not installed by default so if you are unsure, the answer is no :)
[15:02] <rgenito_> ah ok, after apt-get installing them?
[15:02] <rgenito_> ah yes, that'd be it.. ty ActionParsnip ! :)
[15:02] <mandcnemad01> not on purpose
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> rgenito_: yes, ubuntu-tweak is 3rd party so you'll need a ppa
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> mandcnemad01: does any of this help http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=10000
[15:03] <rgenito_> oooh i see... my ubuntu is running in 2d mode. how can i turn it back to 3d mode?
[15:03] <rabbi1> i am using 12.04 on acer laptop, i can hear audio from my laptop even after i insert the headphone.... what could be the problem ?
[15:04] <nufan_us> can anyone help with a shell script problem?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> rgenito_: log off and select the Ubuntu session in lightdm
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> nufan_us: here or in #bash
[15:04] <rgenito_> thx again :)
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> nufan_us  ask away, but there's also the channel #bash
[15:05] <defunkt> We are having some problems with pdftops and CUPS.  pdftops consumes 100% CPU on our print server when certain PDF files are printed.  How can I customize command-line switches being sent to this command by CUPS?  When I run pdftops manually from the command-line and convert the problem file, it proceeds much quicker.
[15:05] <nufan_us> thx.. I'll try here first :)
[15:06] <nufan_us> I'm having trouble with a script which works fine from terminal, but doesn't really run when I run it from X.. (but it does work when I open a terminal in X and run the script)
[15:06] <nufan_us> It's my first script, so I'm
[15:06] <jrib> nufan_us: you should pastebin theh script and mention how you arerunning it from (please use one line and a pastebin)
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> nufan_us  use pastebin to show us the script
[15:07] <nufan_us> thx
[15:07] <write> ActionParsnip: i got 82% memory and 4.9% swap (swap partition is 8gigs, memory 1 gig)
[15:07] <rabbi1> i am using 12.04 on acer laptop, i can hear audio from my laptop even after i insert the headphone.... what could be the problem ?
[15:07] <turtle_> MonkeyDust, i hope you got your name from the seires Mon key Dust :)
[15:07] <rgenito_> thanks ActionParsnip :D that did it :D
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> turtle_  yes :)
[15:07] <write> ActionParsnip: isnt that the reason everything is so laggy ?
[15:07] <turtle_> ahaha brilliant, good man
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> turtle_  "der weisse engel!" :)
[15:07] <write> ActionParsnip: CPUs run at 90% :-s jeezz (bot 1 and 2)
[15:09] <turtle_> lol i'm gonna have to go find my dvds now :/
[15:10] <mandcnemad01> ActionParsnip: It suddenly stopped.
[15:13] <yekoms> using grub, setting the default kernel, how do i determine which one is numbered what?
[15:14] <mandcnemad01> yekoms: on startup count the lines starting with 0
[15:14] <jkeiper_> how do i use the ubuntu server 12.04 bootable CD to fix grub display setting issues?  my screen freaks out every time i try to boot, so I can't see grub or ubuntu once it loads.
[15:14] <drojas> hey.. which lessc -> /usr/local/bin/lessc , lessc -> ok, it works, but /bin/sh lessc -> /bin/sh: 0: Can't open lessc .... Any idea?
[15:15] <yekoms> so NEWEST kernel will be 0, and oldest will be 10 if there is 10 versions?
[15:16] <mandcnemad01> yekoms: no. Boot
[15:17] <TJ-> drojas: Maybe the PATH set-up by 'sh' isn't the same as you have in 'bash' ?
[15:17] <yekoms> im not sure i follow.
[15:18] <mandcnemad01> yekoms. Reboot your pc and when grub shows up go to the top and then count the down key presses until you reached the desired entry.
[15:18] <yekoms> ok,
[15:18] <jellf> anyone can help me with the LVM
[15:18] <zoktar> Hello, im trying to find compiz unsupported plugins package for 12.04.1 , does anyone know a maintainers ppa for it?.
[15:18] <yekoms> is there a reason why when i boot up the server, i dont get a grub window at all. but ill get the screen after that
[15:19] <dr_willis> grub menu may be set to be hidden, or its using a res/rate the monitor cant show
[15:19] <nufan_us> Ok, here's the pastebin of the script: http://pastebin.com/00sjRg9n.. It's simply blank, when I try to run it from XBMCbuntu without opening a terminal first and entering it..
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> zoktar  start here https://launchpad.net/~compiz/+archive/ppa
[15:19] <drojas> TJ-: how can I check that?
[15:20] <zoktar> MonkeyDust thanks.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: try: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=compiz
[15:20] <mandcnemad01> yekoms: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161611/i-have-a-grub-menu-display-issue-when-booting-up-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[15:20] <drojas> TJ-: I mean.. how can I share the PATH between sh (dash) y bash?
[15:21] <yekoms> time to test it out now i guess ;)
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> nufan_us  for a start !bin/bash is missing
[15:21] <TJ-> drojas: "/bin/sh env | grep PATH"
[15:21] <dr_willis> #!/bin/bash   you mean?
[15:22] <drojas> TJ-: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open env
[15:22] <zoktar> ActionParsnip thanks!
[15:23] <TJ-> drojas: what user are you trying to run 'sh' as? "Can't open ..." is usually an insufficient permissions issue
[15:23] <nufan_us> my mistake.. I have actually added that to the script.. Just pasted a 5 minute old version of the script..
[15:23] <pranavk> \q
[15:24] <drojas> TJ-: it doesn't work with any user including using sudo
[15:24] <TJ-> drojas: Which Ubuntu release is it? Has something happened recently that has caused other system problems?
[15:26] <fdge> drojas, do you have permissions to use sudo?
[15:26] <drojas> TJ-: 12.04 it's a remote mounted on Amazon EC2
[15:27] <drojas> fdge: yes I have
[15:27] <K1rk> I'm looking at the same cups issue as defunkt.... anyone have any advice on this?
[15:27] <dr_willis> ec2 i think defaults to sh,    not bash. i recall someone had an issue with that a few weeks ago
[15:27] <|Anthony|> can i safely remove pulseaudio and just work with alsa?
[15:28] <K1rk> Are there any alternatives to using pdftops or using gs that consume less resources?  Printing PDF files takes an obscene amount of time and CPU power.
[15:28] <dr_willis> |Anthony|:  i wouldent advise it.  many apps can be set to use alsa dire3ctly if needed
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  IIRC, pulse and alsa are inter-dependent
[15:29] <dr_willis> pulse uses alsa. but every time i see someone try to remove pulse they break other stuff.
[15:30] <|Anthony|> dr_willis, MonkeyDust: the only reason i'm even thinking about it as a solution is cause i'm experimenting with multiseat. It seems that the only way i can get each seat to have audio is if i run pulse as a system-wide instance instead of per user.
[15:31] <dr_willis> |Anthony|:  no idea on multiseat, sorry. thats a 'cutting edge' sort of thing. ;)
[15:31] <DX099> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip, it worked.
[15:31] <|Anthony|> dr_willis, MonkeyDust: i have it working ok for me, but i want to update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX for 12.04 and have a more complete solution for audio.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> DX099: its one of the pains of binary drivers. they are sweet but if they screw up it can be a pain
[15:32] <|Anthony|> it's a big pita tbh and it isn't a general use case solution. for example an internet cafe should NOT use this multiseat audio solution
[15:32] <DX099> now I have another problem : I'm using Unity, and even with the "Launcher Capture Mouse" option and the Autohide activated, when I put my mouse on the left part of the screen(where the launcher is), It won't show up like before
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  I know what multiseat is, but am not familiar with it -- guess you're being one of the pioneers who does the dirty work for all to follow
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> DX099: ive seen that, I had to press SuperL to get it to appear, I just don't bother now
[15:33] <TJ-> |Anthony|: Have you see this? http://disjunkt.com/jd/2010/en/multiseat-linux/multiseat-linux-system-wide-pulseaudio-for-routing-sounds-109/
[15:34] <|Anthony|> MonkeyDust, lol. i don't feel like i've contributed much back to the community. so i help where i can.
[15:34] <DX099> ActionParsnip, ah, a shame it was working perfectly
[15:34] <|Anthony|> TJ-, yeah i've seen that. it's actually up in one of my ff tabs
[15:35] <|Anthony|> TJ-, his solution for $PULSE_SINK per user... i haven't tried it cause it sounds fishy... $PULSE_SINK is a global variable. lol
[15:36] <|Anthony|> although i could be wrong about that... i suppose it wont hurt to give it a go
[15:37] <_cb> Maybe off topic but how do I get the IRC to e-mail me the password for my nick?
[15:37] <dr_willis> _cb:  ask in #freenode
[15:40] <allie83> can anyone point me to the vector room
[15:40] <bazhang> !alis | allie83
[15:43] <deadmund> Anybody here?
[15:44] <allie83> i'm wondering the same thing deadmund
[15:44] <bazhang> allie83, you got an answer
[15:44] <allie83> har har
[15:44] <bazhang> deadmund, ubuntu support question?
[15:44] <deadmund> bazhang: wanting to help others
[15:45] <allie83> bazhang: looking for help with a vector problem
[15:45] <ikonia> allie83: then join the vector support channel/forum/resources
[15:45] <Gycklarn> deadmund, You want to help others? Just stick around a while. You'll find someone who wants to occupy your time.
[15:45] <bazhang> allie83, give more details. if you mean vector linux then search for their channel and join it
[15:47] <denebeim> any suggestions on ripping the avengers dvd?  It's crashing handbrake
[15:47] <ikonia> denebeim handbrake isnt a ripper
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> denebeim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[15:48] <DX099> I'm using Unity, and even with the "Launcher Capture Mouse" option and the Autohide activated, when I put my mouse on the left part of the screen(where the launcher is), It won't show up like before >> Anyone has an idea ?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: is the new hinr app ;)
[15:48] <denebeim> Fine, decrypter then.
[15:48] <denebeim> whatever.  I got the dvd I want to put it on my media server.
[15:49] <dr_willis> denebeim:  dvd copy protection can mess up the rippers also.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> denebeim: try the guide I gave.....
[15:49] <Sabari> Hi I am installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 in a remote server
[15:49] <Calinou> seems legit, denebeim :P
[15:49] <wl> #ubuntun
[15:50] <Sabari> Before installing, the switch port says that it is  connected. But once the installation is complete and the server gets rebooted, the switch ports says that it is not up
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !info ogmrip | denebeim
[15:50] <Sabari> I tried mii-tool which says no link
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !info acidrip | denebeim
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> denebeim: lots of choices, go crazy
[15:51] <denebeim> I'm sorry, I guess i wasn't clear.  I was asking if anyone knew what to tell handbrake (or whatever) to rip the avengers.  I should have said 'without crashing'
[15:51] <ikonia> denebeim don't use handbrake to rip - use it to encode
[15:52] <denebeim> ah.  gotcha.
[15:52] <denebeim> it's two steps nowadays?
[15:52] <dr_willis> i thought handbreak only workd with nonencrypted dvd also.
[15:52] <rigo> hi
[15:52] <ikonia> denebeim: no, it's always been two steps
[15:52] <denebeim> nope works find on encrypted
[15:52] <ikonia> denebeim: you can't encode something you've not extracted
[15:53] <rigo> how is this that after each reboot i get different dmesg-es?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> denebeim: can't vlc spit played dvd out to file?
[15:53] <denebeim> I've not tried it yet, but I usually have bad luck with vlc
[15:53] <denebeim> saving i mean works great for playing.
[15:53] <dr_willis> k9copy can also do dvd to video file
[15:53] <rigo> sometimes the dvb firmware is loaded without prob, sometimes it has to load 2 times. and ie sometimes the philips usb hid is loaded sometimes not.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> even if it does pull in a tonne of deps (imho)
[15:54] <DX099> ActionParsnip, did you try to reinstall unity ? is that a recent bug ?
[15:54] <denebeim> oh great vlc is barfing on it as well
[15:54] <dr_willis> some of the new dvd copy protection can mess things up badly
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> DX099: not sure, have a look at bugs for it, see what's going ok
[15:55] <ikonia> denebeim: I appreciate it's not the same thing, but I ripped and re-encoded the avengers bluray with zero issue
[15:55] <dr_willis> i have dvds that  only play in my blue ray player
[15:55] <denebeim> I got the dvd, what did you use?
[15:55] <denebeim> ah that's it needed root
[15:56] <ikonia> denebeim: I used QTFAB to extract it and hanbrake to encode it
[15:56] <ikonia> but we are moving offtopic here
[15:56] <denebeim> qtfab?
[15:56] <ikonia> denebeim: I would try extracing the DVD using mencoder, then re-encoding it using handbrake
[15:56] <denebeim> sorry late for work wanted to fire this off
[15:57] <vick79> Is this working?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> vick79: is what working?
[15:57] <dr_willis> vick79: huh
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> vick79  you're in, it works
[15:58] <vick79> Sorry, tried typing in many chat rooms with no response.
[15:58] <seumas_> most peoples just sit idle
[15:58] <mamed> hello how can i install ubuntu on my usb
[15:58] <vick79> Ubuntu has a USB creator
[15:58] <bazhang> !usb | mamed
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> !usb
[15:58] <harushimo> does anyone know how to run ruby in terminal?
[15:58] <dr_willis> a full install. or a live install mamed
[15:59] <harushimo> I'm using 12.04
[15:59] <mamed> ubottu: i dont want to boot from usb i want to use it as a harddisk
[15:59] <ikonia> mamed: then do that, plug in the USB and install to it
[15:59] <dr_willis> mamed: install same as you would  a real hard disk
[15:59] <mamed> ikonia: will it be as a harddisk
[16:00] <ikonia> mamed: yes
[16:00] <sukima> How do you fix a virtual desktop. I finally have two monitors running extended desktop but the onw on the right cuts off a thirsd of the display. The wall paper filles the screen but the menubar, and any windows disapear past about 1024 pixels.
[16:00] <dr_willis> be sure grub installs to it.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mamed: linux doesn't care if its usb or stuff like that, its just a block device
[16:00] <mamed> dr_willis: i mean i have no harddisk but i have a usb stick when i plug it i must see my system
[16:00] <mamed> but i dont want a live one
[16:00] <mamed> i want to use installable one
[16:00] <ikonia> mamed: the usb disk will just be seen as a hard disk, install to it
[16:00] <dr_willis> mamed: i have machines with only a ysb flash
[16:01] <mamed> hmm so i must do it from boot
[16:01] <dr_willis> i do full normal installs to ysb flash all the t
[16:01] <denebeim> I so suck at ripping.  what commands and parameters do I type to rip the dvd, what format should it be in, etc?
[16:02] <ikonia> denebeim: use mencoder, rip it to vob
[16:02] <denebeim> just mencoder /dev/dvd -o avengers.vob?
[16:02] <ikonia> denebeim: you'll need to check the options,
[16:02] <ikonia> denebeim: mencoder is a big beast, but effective
[16:02] <denebeim> I know ;-)
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> denebeim: needs sudo
[16:03] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there an easy way to set up Ubuntu so that I can run two different graphical desktops at the same time. I mean, so that I can run a fullscreen game on one and my regular desktop-apps on another.
[16:03] <denebeim> yeah i figured that out when vlc barfed
[16:03] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: does it need sudo to access /dev/dvd ?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !devede
[16:03] <jhonnyboy> hey all, trying to find my dns server for my vpn. Any ideas on how I can find that out?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ive seen dvd rippers need sudo, no idea why
[16:03] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I never use sudo with mencoder.....
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !info devede
[16:03] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: hence my surprise
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> jhonnyboy: could use nmap on the vpn subnet
[16:03] <denebeim> yeah /dev/dvd has group permissions that should allow me to access it, but it doesn't work.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: try both ways :)
[16:04] <truexfan81> ActionParsnip: i've used dvd shrink running in wine without needing sudo
[16:04] <jhonnyboy> ActionParsnip: how would that give me the DNS server? there's no easier way?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: thats because its a windows app, it will run differently
[16:04] <truexfan81> yep
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> jhonnyboy: you will see DNS listed as a service for one of the nodes, obviously
[16:04] <write> write
[16:05] <write> ActionParsnip: did u see what I was saying about RAM and CPU a while ago ?
[16:06] <bondj> howdy
[16:06] <bondj> im looking for a tool to convert a png image to pdf
[16:07] <dr_willis> try the print2pdf virtual printer?
[16:08] <jhonnyboy> ActionParsnip: ok found port 53 open on one of the machines, inserted into resolve.conf but still can't use nslookup on any machines on the vpn. Any ideas?
[16:08]  * dr_willis wonders why one would want to convert a pnf to pdf..  cant libreoffice save to pdf these days?
[16:09] <Afflicto> Hey all, I'm trying to send files from ubuntu to win 7 via my network. Both PC's are on the same router\network. When I go to Files -> Network and click my other PC it asks for username and password but I have no password on my win 7?
[16:09] <fatpudding> Hey, are there any one else that have problem with xpdf after the latest system updates ? :)
[16:10] <bondj> dr_willis, nvm i used libreoffice draw
[16:11] <aguadito> any reason why power settings for never suspending/dimming would not register properly?
[16:12] <aguadito> ne1?
[16:22] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  then login as 'guest' perhaps?
[16:23] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  i always set up the same   user/pass on win and linux for samba. makes things easier
[16:23] <Afflicto> dr_willis: I read something about apt-get install samba, I did that and now I can open the workgroup on the ubuntu. I dno
[16:23] <dr_willis> or just use winscp and ssh if you dont plan on transfering stuff a lot
[16:23] <dr_willis> samba server lets you have shares on the ubuntu box
[16:24] <Afflicto> dr_willis: I'm gonna create a new workgroup and see what I can do. I'm probably gonna transfer a bunch yea :P
[16:24] <dr_willis> i only use one workgroup in my home lan.
[16:25] <dr_willis> i also give the linux users a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[16:25] <dr_willis> you may want to enable the homes share on the linux box also.
[16:25] <dr_willis> samba has a lot of features. ;)
[16:26] <Afflicto> I created my homegroup now called 'dreamvoid'. What do I do now? you're going kinda fast :P
[16:26] <Afflicto> I created in on my windows machine.
[16:26] <dr_willis> you made a share on the windows box that has 'guest'  permissions?
[16:27] <Afflicto> no what's a "share"?
[16:27] <dr_willis> a homegroup is NOT the same as a workgroup.. its ms's next step in shareing
[16:27] <dr_willis> right click on a folder to share it..
[16:28] <dr_willis> what do you expect the linux box to see? no shares = nothing to access..
[16:28] <Afflicto> Oh right. yes I right-clicked my C drive and gave aeveryone full access. I'd like to set a password on it or perhaps only allow my ubuntu machine access.. somehow?
[16:29] <dr_willis> set a password for your user.. is the safest/saneist thing to do
[16:29] <dr_willis> and shareing all of c: is a bit overkill
[16:30] <Afflicto> dr_willis: but I don't want to send 1 terrabyte of stuff to a public folder, then do the same again from public to different locations.
[16:30] <Afflicto> would take double amount of time.
[16:32] <Afflicto> Ok now I don't even see the C drive on ubuntu any longer.
[16:32] <Afflicto> I went to files -> network -> the win 7 machine -> 0 items.
[16:33] <jilebedev> Can anyone recommend a decent tool to analyze the file system without any mounts for a graphical representation of diskspace usage? So that I can find unnecessary files quickly and delete them?
[16:33] <Man> hi
[16:34] <dr_willis> use ctrl L   to show the address bar and type in the  share name perhaps  Afflicto
[16:34] <Afflicto> dr_willis: I could find afflicto-pc and went into it but 0 items in it.
[16:35] <Afflicto> Even though I have 2 folders shared. "Users" and "C drive".
[16:35] <dr_willis> see if the w
[16:35] <Afflicto> the windows pc cannot see the ubuntu pc though.
[16:36] <dr_willis> dont use spaces in share names.. ut can cause issues
[16:36] <Afflicto> dr_willis ok
[16:36] <dr_willis> Afflicto: you made shares on the ubuntu box?
[16:36] <Afflicto> nope
[16:36] <Afflicto> I can try
[16:37] <jrib> jilebedev: Disk Usage Analyzer (command: baobab
[16:37] <jrib> )
[16:37] <dr_willis> such a logical command name. ;-)
[16:38] <Afflicto> Ok I shared "Win" on the ubuntu machine. the windows machine can see "Afflicto-linux" now, I opened it and it asks for username\pw. I typed guest as username and logged in.
[16:38] <Afflicto> And I see the folder "Win". But I can't access it.
[16:39] <dr_willis> you shared the folder with guest allowed rights?
[16:39] <dr_willis> i never use guest shares. i always use my users name and pass.
[16:40] <Afflicto> I allowed guest permission yea
[16:40] <Afflicto> I also did "Allow others to create and delete files in this folder".
[16:42] <Scofield> Haven't been chatted in IRC for more than 10 years!!!
[16:42] <Scofield> macau
[16:42] <q0_0p> Scofield: welcome back to irc
[16:43] <bazhang> Scofield, this is  ubuntu support; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> jilebedev: bleachbit can remove fluff. have as many apps closed as possible and watch options as well as avoid apps that say they will take  long time to run
[16:45] <Afflicto> dr_willis: how do I log in from windows 7 to a share on ubuntu? I tried typing in the ubuntu username and password but it didn't work :\
[16:45] <Joshun> hi
[16:46] <Joshun> has anyone else found that unity (2d)'s auto hide stops working after an update
[16:46] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  you set up a samba password for rhe linux uswr with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: could even use $USER   ;)
[16:47] <dr_willis> that may confuse him ;)
[16:47] <Afflicto> dr_willis: uhm what username do I put in? xd
[16:47] <Afflicto> the windows one or the linux one?
[16:47] <dr_willis> your username  on the linux box of course
[16:47] <Afflicto> ok and then the password at the end
[16:48] <awole20> hey ubuntu - probably a fairly nub question, but all my google searches come up in sending ctrl-alt-delete answers... how does one send a keystroke like alt-f to terminal so that it doesn't just bring up the menu?
[16:48] <dr_willis> i always use use the same usernames on my win and lin box's
[16:48] <jrib> awole20: honestly, I just disable those shortcuts in gnome-terminal's preferences
[16:48] <dr_willis> awole20:  gnome-terminal has a setting to not bring up the menus
[16:48] <Afflicto> Oh, it asks for that when I issue the command :P
[16:49] <awole20> ooh fair enough
[16:49]  * awole20 searches
[16:49] <Afflicto> YAY! =D Thanks dr_willis <3
[16:49] <awole20> much better, thanks guys
[16:51] <Joshun> purging unity and unity2d and reinstalling has made no difference whatsoever
[16:51] <Joshun> no has running rm -rf .gconf
[16:52] <Joshun> *nor
[16:52] <dr_willis> diffeerance in what?
[16:52] <jrib> awole20: enjoy your readline
[16:53] <dr_willis> make a new user - if they have the same problems. then it may be a system issue.
[16:53] <dr_willis> if a new user works.. then its a user setting issue
[16:53] <eXile_> any one run hiphop on ubuntu? I used one of the prebuilt packages but I cant find teh hphp/src directory or the lib directory to set $HPHP_HOME, or $HPHP_LIB
[16:53] <Joshun> dr_willis - unity is not autohiding
[16:54] <Joshun> and its crazy having a massive sidebar that won't autohide
[16:54] <ikonia> eXile_: why would you expect the SRC dir in a pre-built package
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: try:  unity2d --reset    or something like that
[16:54] <Joshun> adjusting the sensitivity doesn't make any diference either
[16:54] <dr_willis> i shrink mine down.
[16:54] <dr_willis> and i never want it to hide. ;)
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: same, I set mine at 40px
[16:55] <Joshun> i of course use xfce
[16:55] <awole20> jrib: thanks! admittedly, was for that and irssi when accessing windows 13-19, since alt-e and alt-t were also mapped by default... but the readline was the straw that broke the camel's back. :)
[16:55] <fbernier> Hi, sometimes I lock my ubuntu laptop and walk away for an hour, and when I come back the unloack dialog never pops back, so im stuck with my wallpaper and nothing on it. What could be the problem?
[16:55] <Joshun> but this is a multi user system
[16:55] <eXile_> ikonia becuase you have to set enviroment varibles to ltell it where to find things: http://pastebin.com/X6TjpDk9 - https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/wiki/Running-HipHop
[16:55] <awole20> fbernier: does typing in your password still log you in, even without the prompt?
[16:56] <eXile_> no idea what it means by hphp checkout, and the only files I can find containineg hphp is /usr/bin/hphp
[16:56] <fbernier> awole20: no, I tried that. It's not a screen misplacement issue.
[16:56] <ikonia> eXile_: setting HPHP_HOME is not looking for a "src" dir though
[16:56] <Joshun> dr_willis - unity2d does not even have a reset command
[16:56] <ikonia> eXile_: it's the home dir of where it's installed
[16:57] <eXile_> I set it to /usr/bin/hphp and it doesnt work I get the error in pastebin
[16:57] <al2> ciao a  tutti
[16:57] <ikonia> eXile_: the HP checkout is you checking out the sourcecode from git
[16:57] <ikonia> eXile_: that's not a directory, that's a file you've set it to
[16:57] <awole20> fbernier: drat. that was my issue when I saw similar symptoms, anyway. Is it completely frozen/unresponsive aside from wallpaper view then?
[16:58] <samkam> hola a todos
[16:58] <Joshun> is there no system-wide configuration file for unity/unity2d
[16:58] <dr_willis> move everything in  your home. to a backup dir ;)
[16:58] <fbernier> awole20: no I can move the mouse around or switch to tty
[16:58] <dr_willis> unity2d uses different configs then 3d.
[16:59] <dr_willis> 3d uses compiz configs i think
[16:59] <bizhanMona> Hi  we are going to ship our ubuntu boxes in an embedded system. We have developed some packages (autotool packages not .deb) which I need to compile and install them on ubuntu base image. After research I found out is much more complex compare to rpm packaging. Any hint on easier better way to get to this will be greatly appreciated? thx
[17:00] <ikonia> bizhanMona: a deb format is %101 the best way
[17:00] <jrib> bizhanMona: you want information on how to create a proper deb package?
[17:00] <Joshun> i'm pretty sure unity2d would just use gcon
[17:00] <ikonia> bizhanMona: it's not more complex than RPM builds, it is different, once you setup the build env, it's very easy and quick
[17:00] <Joshun> *gconf
[17:01] <Joshun> i'll try another account anyway
[17:02] <turtle_> the compiz channel are pretty idle, anyone familiar enough with compiz to answer a question?
[17:02] <bizhanMona> where is the best resource for deb package creation from source please?
[17:02] <ikonia> !packaging | bizhanMona
[17:03] <Joshun> dr_willis - definitely not a config problem then. the guest account (which uses a temporary profile) has the same problem
[17:03] <Joshun> I don't think unity2d can be shrunk either
[17:03] <bizhanMona> thank you all for info.
[17:04] <bizhanMona> !backports
[17:05] <Joshun> are ubuntu backports still unsupported btw.
[17:05] <Joshun> because if they are why are they enabled by default
[17:09] <TJ-> Joshun: "dconf-editor" com.canonical.unity-2d.launcher.hide-mode = 1
[17:09] <dr_willis> they are not enabl3ed by default   as far as i know
[17:11] <Joshun> TJ- i'll try that anyway, though I did click 'reset behaviour' under settings and then re-enabled auto hde
[17:11] <Joshun> *hide
[17:11] <awole20> fbernier: yeah, I've never seen that before in my short time here, sorry.
[17:12] <awole20> fbernier: ...does it happen in different desktop environments as well?
[17:12] <TJ-> JoshuaP: yeah, I know, but thought it might be helpful to know where the setting is stored. The actual file the setting is in, is a binary file "~/.config/dconf/user"
[17:13] <ring1> JoshuaP, just started a clean 12.04.1. for updates only precise-security and precise-updates are activated by default
[17:13] <Joshun> TJ- thanks, the panel hides but doesn't reappear once hidden
[17:13] <ring1> sorry, meant Joshun
[17:14] <dr_willis> its playing hide and go seek
[17:14] <TJ-> Joshun: Try throwing the mouse *hard* at the side ... I used to suffer that issue but it went away
[17:14] <Joshun> ring1 - oh must have been an earlier release then. there was one release with them enabled by default
[17:15] <Joshun> TJ- no matter what you do, the onlyway for it to reappear is to press te windoze button
[17:15] <Joshun> or of course disable auto hide
[17:16] <Joshun> I can't use the normal unity either because it just locks up on my nvidia chipset
[17:16] <Guest46059> I have a problem in writing programs.... in terminal. We can't use backspace... and I am somehow not convient with it... Can somebody please tell me what should I install to make it flexible... Thank you in advance...
[17:16] <Joshun> but I think it has the same autohide problem anyway
[17:16] <TJ-> Joshun: Any clues in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0.log or ~/.xsession-errors ?
[17:17] <TJ-> Guest46059: Ctrl+h
[17:17] <Joshun> TJ- its rather low spec, though worked better in previous releases
[17:19] <Guest46059> What do u mean by ctrl+h
[17:19] <Guest46059> ?
[17:19] <Guest46059> @TJ
[17:20] <TJ-> Guest46059: backspace == Ctrl+h
[17:21] <dr_willis> sometimes the backspace and del keys get reversed.
[17:21] <turtle_> Guest46059, if you press Ctrl+H is another way of using backspace in a terminal
[17:21] <Guest46059> TJ : Can u tell me if i can install an add on as I installed vim in case of Mint...?
[17:22] <Joshun> does unity2d have an updated/fixed ppa?
[17:22] <dr_willis> an add on for vim Guest46059 ?
[17:22] <TJ-> Guest46059: I'm not clear what you're asking. I thought you wanted to be able to use backspace to edit at a terminal Ctrl+h is the backspace key-combination
[17:23] <Guest46059> @dr willis: ya... plz if u could..
[17:23] <Guest46059> I mean an add on similar to vim in mint
[17:24] <Pici> Guest46059: What do you mean by an "add on"?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=unity try that
[17:26] <Guest46059> I mean that can we install a software so that I can use terminal flexibly... In case of linux mint I had installed "vim"
[17:27] <Pici> Guest46059: Yes, there are many packages in the Ubuntu repositories. Just install vim: sudo apt-get install vim
[17:27] <Pici> !software | Guest46059
[17:29] <test0987> prova
[17:31] <Guest46059> Here supercollider vim and gvim are present and there is no vim in software centre...!
[17:33] <Guest46059> Pici : If I type that command it is showing an error
[17:33] <Guest46059> !
[17:34] <Krenair> /usr/bin/vuze: 304: exec: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java: not found
[17:34] <Pici> Guest46059: What error?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: if you run:  java -version    does it output something?
[17:35] <Krenair> java version "1.6.0_24"
[17:35] <Krenair> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.4) (6b24-1.11.4-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   try that :)
[17:37] <beboj> is there any bluetooth manager via terminal ?
[17:37] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, I want to make it use the correct java path (/usr/bin/java will do), not change java versions
[17:37] <Guest46059> Pici : It is showing...
[17:37] <Guest46059> Reading package lists... Done
[17:37] <Guest46059> Building dependency tree
[17:37] <Guest46059> Reading state information... Done
[17:37] <Guest46059> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[17:37] <Guest46059> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[17:37] <Guest46059> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[17:37] <FloodBot1> Guest46059: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <genii-around> Krennair: /usr/bin/java is actually a link to where the current java it wants to use is. update-alternatives --list java       will for instance show you the possible different java you have installed.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: I believe its just a symlink, not sure to be honest
[17:40] <Krenair> /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[17:40] <Krenair> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: what is the output of: file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java
[17:41] <Krenair> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java' (No such file or directory)
[17:41] <Krenair> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk is empty
[17:42] <Spoils> greetings, quick question... for some odd reason, my top panel (the one with the clock, battery indicator, etc... is gone)
[17:43] <Spoils> does anyone know what would cause that (suddenly) or how to re-enable it/
[17:44] <Guest46059> Is that Gvim software same as vim...?
[17:44] <xine> Guest46059: it's a little bit of gui around vim, but essentially the same thing
[17:44] <daniele_> hello everyone, I use ubuntu 12.04 and I an Asus n56vz with instant on, I ask if I can use instant on also in ubuntu?
[17:45] <mikebot> Hi, when I try to "Try Ubuntu" from a usb drive created with unetbootin, I keep getting the error "nvalid of corrupt kernel image."  Is there a way to diagnose this?
[17:45] <mikebot> Thanks
[17:46] <rickzc> test
[17:46] <mikebot> Excuse me: "Invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[17:46] <sayers> format your USB stick and try again
[17:46] <gordonjcp> mikebot: what about it?
[17:46] <gordonjcp> mikebot: dd the image to the USB stick
[17:47] <mikebot> sayers: Formatting is different from just installing unetbootin over what is on it?
[17:47] <mikebot> gordonjcp: What is dd?
[17:47] <gordonjcp> mikebot: don't use unetbootin, it doesn't work properly
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: and the output of: file /usr/bin/java
[17:47] <gordonjcp> mikebot: it's a command you use to copy from one device to another
[17:47] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Oh, is there another way to create it on a mac?
[17:47] <gordonjcp> mikebot: or in this case, from the iso to the device
[17:47] <Krenair> /usr/bin/java: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[17:47] <gordonjcp> mikebot: should work on a mac, too
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java
[17:47] <Krenair> /etc/alternatives/java: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java'
[17:47] <gordonjcp> mikebot: are you trying to boot a mac?
[17:48] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Is there a tutorial for dd'ing the image to a usb and being able to boot from it?
[17:48] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, no
[17:48] <Krenair> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk is empty
[17:48] <sayers> mikebot: your USB stick could need formating becuz of corruption inside on some of it's hidden system files
[17:48] <mikebot> gordonjcp: It's a pc, but I have to create the usb drive on a mac
[17:48] <gordonjcp> mikebot: okay
[17:48] <gordonjcp> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: basically link the file it expects to the java that /usr/bin/java is running to entertain the app, should be ok
[17:48] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Thanks!
[17:48] <gordonjcp> mikebot: I don't think you need to do the conversion step any more
[17:48] <mikebot> sayers: I see. OK, thanks!  I'll try to format it
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: you get the idea
[17:49] <Krenair> Maybe I should sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64 ?
[17:49] <gordonjcp> mikebot: this will wipe anything on the stick, so make a backup if you care about your data
[17:49] <gordonjcp> mikebot: unetbootin will probably have wiped it already though
[17:49] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Oh OK. So I don't need to format it separately from the instructions you linkd me to?
[17:49] <mikebot> linked*
[17:49] <gordonjcp> mikebot: shouldn't need to, no
[17:49] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Brilliant, thank you!
[17:50] <gordonjcp> mikebot: on stuff like memory sticks, "formatting" isn't really formatting
[17:50] <gordonjcp> it just creates a filesystem
[17:50] <gordonjcp> calling it "formatting" is a bit of a misnomer
[17:50] <mikebot> gordonjcp: Ah I see.  Was unaware of this. :)
[17:50] <gordonjcp> mikebot: it's a small, nitpicky point ;-)
[17:51] <joebar> Hi people , I installed ubuntu studio a couple of days ago and it works fine , but recently i installed FL Studio , withe the ASIO 4 all driver. My problem is , when I launch fl studio (via wine) , I can only hear the sound of fl studio , I mean , if I launch FL and a video on my browser , I don't hear the video , is there anyway to fix it ?
[17:51] <Spoils> Greetings...
[17:51] <gordonjcp> joebar: not really, no
[17:52] <Spoils> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, my top panel (the one with the clock and battery indicator) has disappeared...
[17:52] <Spoils> Does anyone have an idea about how to re enable it?
[17:52] <Krenair> no that's not right...
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Spoils: if you log off and on, is it ok?
[17:53] <sayers> you clicked right button and exit
[17:53] <joebar> well , I think it is because of the audio driver , isn't there any driveapps ?r that I could use for every program ? Instead of one for FL and one for other
[17:53] <joebar> other apps *
[17:53] <TeckniX> Hello - I'm having some trouble with a recent ubuntu server 12.04 install - I can't seem to get a lot of packages
[17:53] <TeckniX> such as ddclient and whatnot
[17:53] <Spoils> Action: No.  It's just gone.. it's so weird
[17:53] <Spoils> I have logged out and in several times... something isn't right
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> TeckniX: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ddclient
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> TeckniX: its in the universe repo, do you have that enabled?
[17:54] <sayers> Type in your terminal "sudo give-me my top panel " :D
[17:54] <TeckniX> http://codepaste.net/r9ettf that's my repo
[17:55] <mikebot> gordonjcp: I got an error: "he disk you inserted was not readable by this computer."
[17:55] <mikebot> *The
[17:55] <TeckniX> maybe it's because I have the precise-security filter?
[17:55] <sayers> mikebot: did you format it as NTFS file system
[17:55] <Domincii> Is there anyone here who could help me with some problems I've run into whilst playing WoW via Wine?
[17:55] <TeckniX> kinda new to ubuntu and coming from RHEL it's just a matter of understanding what I'm looking at
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Domincii: #winehq will be a good place to ask too
[17:55] <mikebot> sayers: No, I did not format it.
[17:55] <Newb101> Hi, I have a 500gb Hard drive with ubuntu 12.04 on it and another hard drive of 160gb which is formated. The 500GB is only 10% full I want to transfer it to the 160GB, How do I do that?
[17:55] <Domincii> Thank you Parsnip
[17:56] <mikebot> sayers: I just ran the d command on top of what's on it.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> TeckniX: if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list   you can uncomment the universe repo and it will install ok
[17:56] <mikebot> *dd (Not used to mac keyboard)
[17:56] <sayers> mikebot: your motherboard maybe can't boot FAT file system :(
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: could use rsync in liveCD
[17:56] <Domincii> I'm using webchat.freednode.net, how do I open a new IRC in a new tab?
[17:56] <mikebot> sayers: Ah, I see.  Is there no way to create this on a mac then?
[17:57] <TeckniX> ActionParsnip: they already are, but I think the precise-security filter was the culprit. Realized that with your link post
[17:57] <mikebot> sayers: Oh, I have to format the usb as NTFS?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Domincii: if you join a new channel, you will get a new button in the browser
[17:57] <sayers> mikebot: I'm not familiar with Macintosh, but you could do that formating and then to select NTFS file system
[17:57] <Domincii> I'm not sure how to join a new channel though
[17:57] <TeckniX> ActionParsnip: only getting http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/universe vs http://security.ubuntu.com precise/universe
[17:58] <TeckniX> now works like a charm :) thanks for the hint
[17:58] <Newb101> apart from rsync any other way?
[17:58] <Aelingil> Spoils: can you re-set the top pannel?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> TeckniX: word
[17:58] <Spoils> Aelingil: How?
[17:59] <Aelingil> Spoils: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125662/how-to-reset-gnome-panel I think this will work for you. Read up on it real quick. They look to have the same problem
[17:59] <usr13> Newb101: cp
[18:00] <Spoils> Aelingil: Tks
[18:00] <Aelingil> Spoils: It may only work on "Classic" desktop tho.. i'm not sure which one you were using.
[18:00] <e5520> Hello everyone
[18:00] <turtle_> hi
[18:00] <JoAn_PeTiT> hello
[18:00] <Domincii> hey
[18:01] <e5520> thanks
[18:01] <Domincii> You're welcome?
[18:01] <e5520> i m new  convert to ubuntu
[18:01] <sayers> wut?
[18:01] <e5520> :)
[18:01] <turtle_> one of us...one of us...
[18:02] <e5520> i mean i had been using windows since i know computers
[18:02] <sayers> Same here :D
[18:02] <e5520> now switched to linux
[18:03] <usr13> Newb101:  It would be a pretty complicated affair to move the entire operating system, copying the dada is the easy part, but it would be difficult to talk you through the entire process of getting your data transfered, then changeing the /etc/fastab file so that it would be operational, and then re-installing the grub boot loader in order for it to boot.  We could look around for some sort of tutural, but the bottom line is that it would be easier to back up 
[18:04] <gordonjcp> Newb101: quickest thing to do would be to do a clean install onto the 160 and copy your data across
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> Newb101, Take a look at clonezilla, the thing to notice is the size of the cloned partition must equal the partition installed to, so you would have to adjust accordingly.
[18:06] <usr13> Newb101: ... and there may be a better solution.  If you explain your situation, maybe we could advise you.
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> Newb101, the partition cloned to has to be equal or bigger then the cloned partition as a clearer description
[18:07] <usr13> Newb101: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #And send us the resulting URL.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> Newb101, Sorry I meant the partition cloned to equal or bigger.
[18:09] <ErvisTusha> hi all
[18:09] <ErvisTusha> anyone here have experience with openvpn ?
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | ErvisTusha
[18:09] <webereinc> can anyone help with vnc / remote desktop server?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !ask | webereinc
[18:10] <sayers> you got SSH why vnc ?
[18:10] <ErvisTusha> lotuspsychje, i have other problems
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !details | ErvisTusha
[18:11] <webereinc> sayers: I need the graphical interface for when a windows client attaches.  The issue is there are two different ways to manage the password and I am getting an Authentication Failed rejection.
[18:11] <mikebot> Wait, so is there a way to use the dd command on a usb without the "cannot read" error?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> mikebot:is it a sandisk?
[18:12] <usr13> webereinc: What windows client are you using?
[18:12] <ErvisTusha> lotuspsychje, Im using HMA as my VPN provider and need to change IP often
[18:12] <webereinc> I have two servers which I need to allow to be remotely managed via Remote Desktop.  The one on default port 5900 works fine, but when I changed the other to port 5901, I started getting Authentication Errors
[18:12] <mikebot> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure.  It's from some law firm.
[18:13] <webereinc> usr13: Ubuntu (Gnome) Remote desktop app - from one machine to the other.
[18:13] <bibi23> Hi, how can I now where a package is installed?
[18:13] <webereinc> usr13: It also fails with Windows UltraVNC (which is the client that will be ultimately used in the field)
[18:14] <_oddis_> I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless WPA 2 TKIP / AES (both) secured network through a Netgear (WNA3100) using NDISWRAPPER
[18:14] <sayers> bibi23: go to synaptic manager
[18:14] <webereinc> When I configure using the 'preferences for remote desktop', I have one password there... But if I configure using the gconf-config app, there is a different password there.  Clearing or changing one does not change the other....
[18:14] <usr13> webereinc: It may be a bit hard for us to figure out why the password authentication fails.
[18:15] <_oddis_> i've read a ton about it, and it's wpa_supplicant that's having issues, or at least it's only able to get to 2/4 of the authentication stages, anyone heard about it?
[18:15] <webereinc> usr13: It fails even if I try to 'clear' the password and set it so that no password is required!
[18:15] <sirtophat> so is the amazon search going to be integrated into grep as well
[18:15] <usr13> webereinc: Try tightvnc
[18:16] <webereinc> usr13: as client or server?
[18:16] <_oddis_> i'm able to connect to i.e an unsecured network (haven't tried changing to WPA on my wireless)
[18:16] <usr13> webereinc: client
[18:16] <bibi23> sayers: is there another way? I don't think I have this synaptic manager installed
[18:16] <bibi23> I mean with the command line
[18:16] <webereinc> usr13: I can certainly try that - any idea on the two different passwords and which one is the right one to be setting?
[18:16] <usr13> webereinc: You could also try a different server as well like x11vnc, tightvncserver
[18:17] <sayers> bibi23: System->Administration-> Synaptic Package Manager
[18:17] <usr13> webereinc: nope
[18:17] <usr13> webereinc: x11vnc is my first choice
[18:18] <webereinc> OK - I think I'll head in that direction
[18:18] <webereinc> Thx
[18:19] <bibi23> sayers: I can't see it, I'm on ubuntu 12.04
[18:20] <sayers> bibi23: type in your terminal that: synaptic package manager
[18:20] <mikebot> Has anyone here successfully created a bootable ubuntu usb on a mac?
[18:21] <bibi23> it says it's not installed, and suggests 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[18:21] <patrickod> are there still known issues with PulseAudio skipping frequently with intel hardware?
[18:21] <patrickod> Googling for the issue shows it was a common complaint about 1-2 years ago
[18:23] <apg> anybody has problem printing with long bond paper size in Ubuntu Precise?
[18:23] <sayers> bibi23: Install it from Software Center
[18:23] <jacksparrow> how to run a shell script on startup for once and only once in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:23] <apg> I have a problem printing in long bond paper size in ubuntu 12.04.
[18:25] <Dantevios> my network manager hath dissapeared from mine dockbar
[18:26] <Dantevios> Why hath my network-manager-gnome dissapeared from my dockbar?
[18:26] <Dantevios> Any ideas?
[18:26] <bibi23> sayers: it's ok I've installed it, well I'm not sure if now it's still related to this channel, but I'm trying to find the path to the freetype library (http://www.freetype.org/) , the package name is libfreetype6 , I have to specify the path to this lib when compiling php, here is the different paths I can see for this package : http://pastebin.com/mYe69SLP , which one do you think it is? thx
[18:27] <sayers> bibi23: copy and paste that name in the search bar located above in Synaptic packaga manager
[18:27] <Dantevios> How doth one run thine network-manager-gnome app from the command line?
[18:29] <bibi23> sayers: that's what I've done, then I clicked on properties of the package, and from there I could see this file list, but I don't see what is the lib path? As there are many different ones.
[18:33] <bibi23> sayers: I'm not even sure it's this package, I can also see a libfreetype6-dev package, I've installed it to, but for this one too there is a lot of files
[18:33] <sayers> bibi23: it seems you have to check each directory by your self :)
[18:34] <bibi23> sayers: ok no problem, but what should I look for?
[18:34] <sayers> bibi23: I don't really know :(
[18:35] <_buki_> hi
[18:36] <Dantevios> My problem hath been solved. Thine notification area hadth been removed from my dock bar. No woes my friends. Mine issue hath been resolved.
[18:36] <sayers> hath, hadth nice spell.
[18:37] <bibi23> sayers: ok :( , thx for your help with synaptic, at least I learned that!
[18:37] <sayers> bibi23: I feel bad for you :(
[18:39] <TheM4ch1n3> Dantevios: Ubuntu - Christian Edition?
[18:41] <Dantevios> TheM4ch1n3 http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/installation/
[18:41] <Dantevios> Why doth thou mock me?!
[18:41] <Dantevios> I useth the 10.04 LTS desktop that is outdated yee swine!
[18:42] <Dantevios> I just felt that I shall use my rennassance voice today to amuse thine self.
[18:43] <sayers> Dantevios watch you language abot 10.04, im with it on my old rig and it's performing excellent comparing it to other newer distros!
[18:43] <ab2qik1> hello, looking for help on radeon 6970 used on 12.04
[18:43] <thebananafish> thou are quite a jester
[18:44] <THE_GFR|WORK> thebananafish: you should have said "thou art quite a jester"
[18:44] <thebananafish> lol oh well
[18:44] <ab2qik1> seems to freeze the display randomly. Is there a way to check its configured/setup correctly?
[18:45] <Dantevios> I must agree with thou sayers. Frankly, I hath enjoyed 10.04 much more than I hath enjoyed 12.04. I hath no problems with thine, except that support shall be dropped for it :(
[18:46] <sayers> Correct.
[18:47] <Dantevios> I hath not suggested any disparagement twards thine 10.04, no unhappiness to you sayers . Go fourth, be awesome!
[18:56] <_oddis_> I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless WPA 2 TKIP / AES (both) secured network through a Netgear (WNA3100) using NDISWRAPPER
[18:56] <_oddis_> i've read a ton about it, and it seems to be wpa_supplicant that's having issues, or at least it's only able to get to 2/4 of the authentication stages, anyone heard about it?
[18:57] <_oddis_> is there anything you can do when apparantly the driver doesn't support all the IOCTL-functions wpa_supplicant is trying to do?
[19:00] <reade> ls
[19:00] <YardimEdinLutfen> can someone tell me an clipboard application which works on gnome-shell.
[19:00] <Silico> So guys, I've got a quick question. Is there any way to fix my wireless driver when booting into Ubuntu? I normally use a windows computer that is Dual booted with Ubuntu I believe it's version 12.04
[19:01] <leon> What would be the best choice to start getting away from my GUI? Xserver or hmmm what enviroment does ArchBang use? They are both really simplistic...
[19:03] <thebananafish> gentoo
[19:03] <thebananafish> archbang like crunch bang comes with openbox out of the box
[19:04] <zykotick9> leon: your question is unclear.  do you want rid of xorg or to change windows manager?  either way, learn "screen".  best of luck (i'm 90+% terminal programs at this point.  "if i can't run it in screen, what good is it to me?"
[19:06] <kernan> Need help :)
[19:06] <zykotick9> !ask | kernan
[19:08] <geek94> hello guys i have a problem with deb file installition it errors that somefiles are courupted how can i fix this?
[19:09] <kernan> When I install Ubuntu 12.04.1, i can't reach the GUI. Only the first time, then after the computer reboots i'll come to the terminal.. And I can't avoid it! :O
[19:09] <zykotick9> geek94: pastebining the command and error output would make it way easier for the channel to help (see "/msg ubottu paste" for ubuntu's pastebin)
[19:09] <oldskoo__> I stopped kvm last night restarted a vm and this is what it said:
[19:09] <oldskoo__> Error starting domain: internal error Process exited while reading console log output: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2
[19:09] <oldskoo__> open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:09] <oldskoo__> failed to initialize KVM: Operation not permitted
[19:09] <oldskoo__> Error starting domain: internal error Process exited while reading console log output: char device redirected to /dev/pts/2
[19:09] <oldskoo__> open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:09] <FloodBot1> oldskoo__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <apg> guys, is there any solution for printing long bond paper in ubuntu
[19:09] <oldskoo__> failed to initialize KVM: Operation not permitted
[19:10] <johnhamelink> Why hello there :)
[19:10] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: does it work with sudo?
[19:10] <Domincii> Need WoW help :( #winehq aren't being very useful
[19:10] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: 1st actually - is this REALLY kvm, or libvirt?
[19:11] <oldskoo__> dunno I currently use virt-manager
[19:11] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: ok - i can't help you.  good luck.
[19:11] <oldskoo__> zykotick9: How come? :(
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Domincii: are you using compiz?
 <yea, true. More than nothing just to learn for the sake of learning. The idea is to gradually get a GUI that is more simplistic till I end up with something like a window manager and then full on terminal, I get your point but sometimes I just need to push myself a tad harder.>
[19:11] <johnhamelink> I am running wmfs2 on ubuntu. I want to launch it using .xinitrc so i can run some other Startup scripts at the same time. I'm on 12.10. Any hints?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | johnhamelink
[19:11] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: i hate libvirt.  and do all my vm's using kvm from cli.  best of luck.
[19:11] <leon> dam
[19:12] <johnhamelink> thanks ThinkT510 :)
[19:12] <oldskoo__> zykotick9: Should I switch?
[19:12] <oldskoo__> zykotick9: why do you dislike libvirt?
[19:16] <zykotick9> leon: my current desktop (while chatting with you.  freevo is taking up 50+% (big monitor), but you can see my WM it's called "awesome" on the left side - VERY terminal based) http://imagebin.org/229922
[19:17] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: i liked the GUI of libvirt, but i personally ran into too many issues using it (i wish it worked for me!).  so i use kvm from cli instead ;)
[19:17] <nannes> heyz
[19:17] <zykotick9> oldskoo__: stability is my #1 issue/consideration
[19:17] <nannes> How long should we (Lubuntu users) have to wait to have the newer version of pcmanfm?
[19:18] <nannes> It's been released more than 1 month ago
[19:18] <zykotick9> leon: i wouldn't with awesome to my worst enemy ;) but another tiling wm is called xmonda or something???
[19:18] <zykotick9> s/with/wish/
[19:18] <ThinkT510> nannes: till the next ubuntu release
[19:18] <nannes> O.O
[19:18] <nannes> are you kidding?
[19:18] <ThinkT510> no
[19:18] <nannes> wtf
[19:18] <nannes> I don't say what I'm thinking right now
[19:19] <nannes> just bye
[19:22] <copec> With nvidia proprietary drivers and no xorg.conf (letting xorg detect) I have two nvidia cards with three monitors, when I run xrandr it only shows "Screen 0" (xorg comes up with just the first head outputting)
[19:22] <drake> hey is anyone avail to lend a hand on a keyboard issue whilst connecting to a server via Remmina..?
[19:22] <copec> How can I fix this?  I've googled as well as I can and can't find an answer.
[19:23] <zykotick9> copec: nvidia-proprietary ususally requires an xorg.conf?  then setup/activate the monitors in "nvidia-settings", AND save to Xorg.conf (it's a button).
[19:24] <copec> I've tried using nvidia-settings and generating an xorg.conf, it can only do twinview or xinerama
[19:25] <copec> from what I read xinerama is deprecated, and unity2d crashes all the time under it
[19:25] <zykotick9> copec: well... that's not correct.  but.  i've never used more then 2 monitors...
[19:25] <copec> the crashing is personal expirience
[19:25] <zykotick9> copec: fyi twinview IS nvidia's propritary version of xinerama
[19:26] <copec> either way it only supports two heads, is my point
[19:26] <zykotick9> l8r folks.
[19:26] <drake> hey is anyone avail to lend a hand on a keyboard issue whilst connecting to a server via Remmina..?
[19:27] <copec> I've manually made an xorg.conf and gotten all three heads working via xinerama, which makes unity 3d not work because compiz wont work with xinerama
[19:27] <copec> but unity 2d still has problems
[19:27] <copec> it wants xrandr
[19:31] <Ray2> Will 64 bit iso run on a x86-64 pc
[19:32] <ryuguns> Heyo, I'm running Precise Pangolin. I just changed my username and I was wondering if I could possibly change the name of my home directory along with it?
[19:32] <stokachu> ryuguns, sudo mv /home/oldname /home/newname
[19:32] <jpds> ryuguns: man usermod
[19:32] <stokachu> ryuguns, chown newname:newname -R /home/newname
[19:32] <stokachu> jpds, i win
[19:32] <jpds> ryuguns: Look for --move-home
[19:32] <jpds> stokachu: Oi.
[19:32] <stokachu> jpds, bah you win
[19:33] <ryuguns> Okay, thansk
[19:34] <SlimboyPhat> why hello
[19:34] <Guest6749> hi
[19:35] <oldskoo__> join /virt-manager
[19:37] <oldskoo__> oops
[19:42] <nmvsOh> alguine de chile
[19:42] <apg> !patient
[19:42] <nmvsOh> kakjaa xd
[19:43] <AlphaSquared> Hey guys
[19:43] <SlimboyPhat> sup
[19:44] <AlphaSquared> Having some trouble with serial port permissions. I find I need to chmod my port (ttyS0) to 777 or change its user to my applications user in order to communicate with the serial device
[19:44] <AlphaSquared> but, each time I reboot, the permissions are reset
[19:47] <AlphaSquared> anyone got any idea how I can force permissions on them?
[19:47] <genii-around> AlphaSquared:  Maybe add the user which needs access to it into the group named dialout
[19:47] <_XMENDES> guys . im  trying watch a webcam server .. and i get the error.. Please enable function 3GPP server Webcam.
[19:47] <_XMENDES> im using ubuntu
[19:48] <_XMENDES> i did install every plugins of firefox
[19:48] <_XMENDES> and dont work
[19:49] <eXile_> any one ever set up hiphop-php on ubuntu? after messing it with it for hours trying to get something to build form a php file im stuck at CMake Error at /dev/hiphop-php/CMake/HPHPFindLibs.cmake:64 (message):\n  libmemcache is too old. Which it is not as its newer than that version
[19:49] <_XMENDES> there s a link of download of quicktime on this site.
[19:49] <compdoc> _XMENDES, is it a website or an ip cam?
[19:49] <_XMENDES> website
[19:50] <compdoc> do they have a client you need to install?
[19:50] <_XMENDES> it s a webcam server live of the school of my daughter
[19:51] <garr> hi people, i've problem with launchpad
[19:51] <garr> it fails to sync my repo
[19:51] <_XMENDES> compdoc.. i think its quicktime . because have the link for this web http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/
[19:51] <garr> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XJG0eiq1
[19:51] <garr> this is the log
[19:52] <garr> what does that mean and how do i fix it?
[19:52] <hilo> hello, I have a headless machine running which I remote into using X11VNC. The desktop is 800x640 and I can't set it higher. How can I remedy this so I can use larger desktop resolutions?
[19:53] <_XMENDES> i have the quicktime plugin installed on my firefox.
[19:53] <compdoc> _XMENDES, open the Software Center
[19:53] <_XMENDES> ok
[19:53] <_XMENDES> what i search there?
[19:53] <compdoc> type in 3gpp
[19:54] <compdoc> then at the bottom, click the thing that says show technical stuff
[19:54] <_XMENDES> i did it . and i installed one program
[19:54] <compdoc> no - dont
[19:54] <compdoc> do it again: type in 3gpp
[19:54] <compdoc>  then at the bottom, click the thing that says show technical stuff
[19:54] <_XMENDES> transnmageddon
[19:55] <_XMENDES> ok
[19:55] <compdoc> uninstall that
[19:55] <_XMENDES> ok..
[19:55] <trism> garr: if you are importing a git repo with submodules then: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/88128 and bug 402814 , you may want to ask in #launchpad
[19:55] <_XMENDES> and install the other libs?
[19:55] <compdoc> whats the first lib?
[19:55] <garr> trism: actually this is single-branch github repo
[19:56] <compdoc> showing
[19:56] <garr> there are two tags, one branch
[19:56] <garr> nothing special
[19:56] <_XMENDES> let me see..
[19:57] <_XMENDES> atomicparsley
[19:57] <garr> https://github.com/Garrappachc/Vatsinator
[19:57] <_XMENDES> first lib
[19:57] <garr> this is the repo
[19:57] <garr> that i try to sync with
[19:57] <_XMENDES> i gonna try install all of this libs
[19:57] <compdoc> bad idea
[19:58] <_XMENDES> ok.. i dont gonna make this ehhehe
[19:58] <_XMENDES> what i do then?
[19:59] <compdoc> is there one called libgsm0710-0 ?
[19:59] <_XMENDES> yep
[19:59] <garr> trism: i don't have submodules in my repo on github
[19:59] <_XMENDES> install this?
[20:00] <compdoc> yeah, try that one
[20:00] <trism> garr: ask in #launchpad
[20:00] <_XMENDES> ok.. 1 min
[20:00] <d3bug> anyone have issues with building nautilus?  I am getting "eel-i18n.h:31:16: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'char'"
[20:00] <garr> ok, i will
[20:00] <garr> thanks
[20:00] <_XMENDES> need reebot??
[20:00] <compdoc> not sure
[20:01] <_XMENDES> not work :( same error message
[20:02] <guntbert> hilo: does http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15816/changing-the-resolution-of-a-vnc-session-in-linux  help?
[20:02] <ParkerM> kubuntu hangs at "starting network connection manager" when booting on my laptop
[20:02] <compdoc> _XMENDES, on there website, does it name the software they use?
[20:02] <compdoc> their
[20:03] <_XMENDES> quick time
[20:03] <_XMENDES> you wanna try there?
[20:03] <compdoc> so thats what you need to have working
[20:04] <_XMENDES> the admin said witch this website only works with win7 :/
[20:04] <Domincii> Anyone who can help with some (I think) graphical problems I'm having with Ubuntu 12.04
[20:04] <compdoc> do you have quicktime-x11utils  installed?
[20:05] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: Depends on what kind of problems.
[20:05] <_XMENDES> let me see
[20:06] <_XMENDES> i send to you private window.
[20:06] <apg> !topic
[20:06] <Domincii> Ok, I'm pretty new to all this so I'll not be able to go into too much detail but I'm just having weird problems when opening files, for example if I open Skype I can't type anything in the login window, and if I try to use steam it's just a blank outline of the login window with no text
[20:06] <guntbert> !enter | _XMENDES
[20:06] <_XMENDES> installing quicktime-x11utils
[20:07] <Domincii> Also, when I try to use xchat I don't get the popup that lets you choose an IRC room
[20:08] <dr_willis> just use /join #channelname
[20:08] <dr_willis> ;)
[20:08] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: do you have the proper drivers for your graphics card?
[20:08] <Domincii> I haven't a clue, how would I go about checking?
[20:09] <dr_willis> what is your video card/chipset?
[20:09] <Domincii> I have a radeon HD 7970 3gb oc
[20:10] <dr_willis> using the dash search feature look for 'addational drivers'
[20:10] <hilo> guntbert: Nope, that is a different server software and the option suggested is specific to RealVNC
[20:10] <hilo> guntbert: thanks though
[20:10] <dr_willis> or run 'gksuso jockey-gtk'
[20:10] <DaemonicApathy> *additional
[20:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis: gksudo would be better ;)
[20:11] <dr_willis> thats for wimps ;P
[20:11] <guntbert> hilo: read further down, there are sevral servers mentioned
[20:12] <dr_willis> actually there maty be an icon at the top right anyway for running the additional drivers tools
[20:13] <eXile_> I keep getting this error: libmemcached10 : Conflicts: libmemcached6 but 0.44-1.1build1 is to be installed - even after I removed libmemcached6 any idea why?
[20:14] <zykotick9> eXile_: are you mixing repos, or using a ppa that is involved in this?  (almost a rhetorical question i guess...)
[20:15] <eXile_> I was in the past but now its just standard ones
[20:15] <eXile_> I can pastebin my sources.list
[20:17] <zykotick9> eXile_: fyi, ppa info isn't in sources.list...  so it only paints half the picture.  best of luck man, i can't help you.
[20:17] <zykotick9> eXile_: just curious, when you removed the ppas did you use ppa-purge or some other method?
[20:18] <eXile_> Im not even sure what a ppa is
[20:18] <zykotick9> eXile_: "apt-cache policy foo" replacing foo with all package names involved would tell you if it's all coming from ubuntu default repos (look at the url/address as the clue)
[20:19] <eXile_> so reinstalling it is
[20:19] <eXile_> :P
[20:19] <bizhanMona> HI I just installed the ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop. During installation I do not recall I was asked for root password. Now I need to do some admin stuff which requires root password, how could I recover the root password? do I need to reinstall everything all over again? Thx
[20:19] <DaemonicApathy> honestly, i think the setting menu in update-manager tells you the same.
[20:20] <zykotick9> !root | bizhanMona
[20:20] <DaemonicApathy> bizhanMona, use your user password when using sudo.
[20:20] <bizhanMona> DaemonicApathy: I did and did not work..
[20:20] <zykotick9> bizhanMona: use "sudo foo" for cli apps, and "gksudo foo" for GUI apps
[20:21] <DaemonicApathy> Your main user account should be an admin account by default, so that seems odd to me.
[20:21] <DaemonicApathy> Do you have a password on your account?
[20:21] <john> hi all
[20:22] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: only the 1st created account gets sudo by default (or that's the way it use to be)
[20:22] <guntbert> bizhanMona: in what way did it not work?
[20:22] <Dantevios> How dost I add a "domain" to my /etc/resolf.conf through the use of thine nm-applet ?
[20:22] <DaemonicApathy> "1st", "main"...perhaps I assume too much.
[20:22] <bizhanMona> guntbert sudo service <some service> restart
[20:22] <guntbert> bizhanMona: and what happened?
[20:22] <john> what's going on with #philosophie. I cant seem so get connected
[20:22] <Dantevios> I seeith a place for the search domain to be added, but my domains are not resolving to thine hosts!
[20:23] <zykotick9> john: ask in #freenode
[20:23] <DaemonicApathy> john: perhaps they decided to be #philosophy instead?
[20:23] <john> I said nothing
[20:23] <eXile_> ls
[20:24] <DaemonicApathy> Dantevios: "thine" means "your".
[20:24] <bizhanMona> guntbert: sorry yes I typed my password and the failure was it did not recognize the Dhcpd service.
[20:24] <bizhanMona> So the question is how could I restart the dhcp client on my system?
[20:24] <DaemonicApathy> ubuntu restart dhcp
[20:24] <Dantevios> Precisely my dear boy DaemonicApathy
[20:25] <DaemonicApathy> Hmm, focus changing needs tweaking.
[20:25] <zykotick9> DaemonicApathy: client side, "sudo dhclient eth0" replace eth0 with device
[20:25] <guntbert> bizhanMona: ok, that sounds like sudo just works ok - you would have got a different error
[20:25] <Dantevios> bizhanMona: dhclient -r, then dhclient eth0
[20:25] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9: you're correct. Was googling for a reminder, but the focus changed incorrectly.
[20:25] <WeThePeople> hi, is there a program to filter out double emails on a spreadsheet for ubuntu
[20:26] <guntbert> bizhanMona: try   sudo service  isc-dhcpd status
[20:26] <guntbert> Dantevios: server, not client if I understood correctly
[20:26] <thufir_> I have two hard drives, 30gb and 80gb.  Ubuntu 12.10 is installed on the 30gb drive.  How can I install Ubuntu to the other drive only and leave the first drive alone?  https://gist.github.com/3790385
[20:26] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | thufir_
[20:27] <Dantevios> *shrug* he asked how he could restart the dhcp client guntbert so I don't know
[20:27] <john> can't send to channel.. ugh
[20:27] <thufir_> whoops, 12.04 I meant
[20:27] <DaemonicApathy> WeThePeople: something like this?: http://goo.gl/Q8ncn
[20:27] <kriskropd> thufir_: regardless of version, just don't put it on the other disk then?
[20:27] <zykotick9> john: ask in #freenode, it's not an Ubuntu issue.
[20:28] <thufir_> kriskropd: right, but how?
[20:28] <WeThePeople> daemonicapathy, no lol
[20:28] <john> zykotick9,  will do
[20:28] <kriskropd> thufir_: during the installation wizard, you can select where to install ubuntu
[20:28] <kriskropd> thufir_: my bad i misread that, you had already installed it
[20:28] <zykotick9> kriskropd: don't offer assistance with beta releases in #ubuntu, that's what #ubuntu+1 is for.
[20:28] <Monotoko2> hello guys, can anyone help me with DHCP? I'm trying to network share with it off, in other words I want my iPhone to connect to the shared wifi on my laptop, but get it's IP address from the ethernet DHCP
[20:28] <thufir_> ok, let me rephrase.  I'm using Ubuntu at the moment.  How do I run the installation wizard from within Linux?
[20:29] <kriskropd> zykotick9: he already said he meant 12.04
[20:29] <WeThePeople> daemonicapathy, ok yeah i guess so
[20:29] <WeThePeople> thanks
[20:29] <DaemonicApathy> ^_^
[20:29] <bizhanMona> dhclient -r/etho worked, but the sudo service isc-dhcpd status  failed with isc-dhcpd as unknown service...
[20:30] <DaemonicApathy> thufir: You might try it from within a VM.
[20:30] <kriskropd> thufir_: you can't; you can either run through the instlalation all over again on the other disk, or just move all the files over (thought he latter is a bit mroe complicated)
[20:30] <kriskropd> installation* the*
[20:30] <Monotoko2> anyone?
[20:30] <usaguy> hi
[20:30] <guntbert> bizhanMona: if you need further assistance please clarify if you are talking about dhcp server or dhcp client
[20:30] <DaemonicApathy> kriskropd: *more ;-)
[20:30] <thufir_> huh.  I was sure that there was a way to install Linux from Linux.  After all, the install disc is a live disc.
[20:31] <Domincii> Could someone assist me in installing drivers for my graphics card? I'm uncertain it's correctly installed
[20:31] <kriskropd> DaemonicApathy: i know, im so bad with typoes :(
[20:31] <Dantevios> nm-applet, where can I add a domain to my resolve.conf from it?
[20:31] <DaemonicApathy> Ok thufir_, would you like the complicated way?
[20:31] <thufir_> yes pls
[20:31] <allohak> when I do an 'ls -l' what does the '+' mean at the end of crw-rw---T+
[20:31] <allohak> I'm having trouble googling it
[20:31] <bizhanMona> guntbert: thanks for your help, I was planning to use client and it is working  now. Thank to you and Dantevios
[20:31] <Monotoko2> allohak: symbols are annoying to google, i agree
[20:32] <guntbert> bizhanMona: glad you got what you needed - have fun with ubuntu :)
[20:32] <klpkt> Hello. I have a problem on my Ubuntu computer, which is that when I connect my headphones, the sound suddenly goes way down. I have learned to fix this through alsamixer, but it's getting tedious to open it and modify the values every time I connect or reconnect the headphones. Is there any way of automating this?
[20:32] <DaemonicApathy> thufir_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD
[20:32] <Dantevios> np bizhanMona
[20:33] <ParkerM> can someone help me disable network connection manager? I believe it's preventing me from booting, and editing the conf file/moving it didnt work.
[20:33] <Monotoko2> allohak: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-11/msg00715.html
[20:33] <thufir_> DaemonicApathy:  thanks
[20:33] <DaemonicApathy> klpkt: going through the sound portion of the system settings saves the value, in my ecperience
[20:33] <DaemonicApathy> thufir_: any time.
[20:33] <allohak> Monotoko2: Much thanks
[20:34] <kriskropd> ParkerM: it doesn't sound like thats preventing you from booting, nor should it any ways"
[20:34] <zykotick9> ParkerM: does N-M have an entry in /etc/init/ (NOT init.d!)?
[20:34] <Monotoko2> allohak: no problem :)
[20:34] <zykotick9> ParkerM: i also doubt that's the real issue, perhaps a 1 minute wait to try and find a dhcp server?  are you sure it doesn't boot if you leave it long enough?
[20:34] <klpkt> DaemonicApathy, Well, the problem is that the value that is wrong is the Speaker value, which I can modify in alsamixer, but each time I reconnect the headphones, it goes down to 0.
[20:35] <thufir_> after I install Ubuntu onto the second hard drive as well as the first:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD  will grub pick up both?
[20:35] <nixiedoesalpine> some of the websites are not opening in ubuntu 12.04.1
[20:36] <zykotick9> nixiedoesalpine: what browser?  what sites?
[20:36] <paco_> hi how can I add KDE desktop to my ubuntu 12.04??
[20:36] <nixiedoesalpine> facebook
[20:36] <Dantevios> ParkerM: follow this tutorial http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[20:36] <ParkerM> yes there's an entry in /init/, and it doesn't boot after like 30 minutes so i assume not
[20:36] <Dantevios> the service you want to disable is network-manager
[20:36] <paco_> no kubuntu add the desktop
[20:36] <nixiedoesalpine> am using chromium
[20:36] <ParkerM> ok ill try that
[20:36] <nixiedoesalpine> paco do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <zykotick9> ParkerM: moving the /init/foo.whatever to /init/foo.whatever.DISABLED should disable the service.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> paco_, yes install kubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <DaemonicApathy> thufir_: I would update the grub after you're done with the install, then restart to find out.
[20:37] <Dantevios> ParkerM: you're going to have to manage your own ip though through /etc/network/interfaces though if you do that
[20:37] <paco_> nixiedoesalpine, no kubuntu, the KDE by it self
[20:37] <ParkerM> yeah i saw that in one of the google results
[20:37] <paco_> BluesKaj,  no kubuntu, the KDE by it self
[20:37] <zykotick9> paco_: fyi installing kubuntu-desktop as apposed to just the correct KDE package will install A LOT more stuff.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> you need kubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <nixiedoesalpine> paco do pacman -S kde lulz
[20:37] <kriskropd> thufir_: I think you will still need to update your current grub install to let it know there is a second ubuntu install on the other disk
[20:38] <zykotick9> paco_: kubuntu-desktop is the EASIEST answer for sure.
[20:38] <paco_> zykotick9, but is a little different it used to be apt-get kde core
[20:38] <BluesKaj> paco_, unless you just want kde versions of some apps
[20:38] <zykotick9> paco_: use "apt-cache search kde" and find the correct name then...
[20:38] <nixiedoesalpine> eh guys most of the websites are not opening in ubuntu 12.04.1
[20:38] <thufir_> thanks kriskropd and daemonicapathay
[20:38] <paco_> zykotick9, thanks!
[20:38] <nixiedoesalpine> i have dual boot windows internet is fine
[20:39] <nixiedoesalpine> what is wrong with ubuntu
[20:39] <kriskropd> thufir_: also if you add a new grub install to the other disk, whichever disk is booted to first in the bios will have the grub that needs to be updated
[20:39] <DaemonicApathy> nixiedoesalpine: It sounds like your network settings aren't quite right.
[20:39] <zykotick9> paco_: fyi - i didn't include sudo for a reason, it isn't required with apt-cache (many people are unaware of that)
[20:39] <nixiedoesalpine> i did use sudo pppoeconf
[20:39] <nixiedoesalpine> same problem
[20:39] <zykotick9> s/are/aren't/
[20:39] <nixiedoesalpine> some websites not opening
[20:40] <klpkt> DaemonicApathy: Do you know how to fix it?
[20:40] <kriskropd> nixiedoesalpine: web sites? ubuntu doesnt view websites xD
[20:40] <zykotick9> unware - nevermind. ;)
[20:40] <nixiedoesalpine> yea
[20:40] <nixiedoesalpine> facebook is also not loading
[20:40] <turtle_> nixiedoesalpine, have you tried firefox? or a different browser?
[20:40] <DaemonicApathy> klpkt: Sorry, no. I use a usb headset, which saves settings as a completely different device.
[20:40] <nixiedoesalpine> yep
[20:40] <nixiedoesalpine> opera also same
[20:40] <nixiedoesalpine> google is loading extremely slow
[20:41] <kriskropd> nixiedoesalpine: are you sure you are connected to the internet? can you 'ping google.com' in a shell and get a response?
[20:41] <guntbert> !enter | nixiedoesalpine
[20:41] <nixiedoesalpine> yea
[20:41] <nixiedoesalpine> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
[20:41] <kriskropd> nixiedoesalpine: 2001ms, oh my
[20:41] <Monotoko2> so no-one can help me disable DHCP when connection sharing?
[20:42] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  what about like a speed test like a ping sweep to google and a traceroute ?
[20:42] <ParkerM> zykotick9: that worked, thanks for the help. I was in the wrong folder
[20:42] <paco_> zykotick9, if I do apt-get install kubuntu desktop do I have to specify for 64 bit??
[20:42] <zykotick9> paco_: NO
[20:42] <Dantevios> Monotoko2: you just want to turn off dhcp in ubuntu?
[20:42] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  Ouch !
[20:42] <mac_12> I'd like to disable daemon like zeitgeist (i run ubuntu 12.04)at every start
[20:42] <Dantevios> Monotoko2: and assign yourself a static IP?
[20:42] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: My laptop is connected to the ethernet... I'd like to connect my iPhone to the wifi, which I can do but it uses DHCP
[20:42] <nixiedoesalpine> what to do
[20:42] <paco_> let me do test that and if I do not like it I just do the other and unistall thanks zykotick9
[20:43] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  when did this trouble start ?
[20:43] <kriskropd> nixiedoesalpine: try 'tracepath google.com' that will show you all the nodes it has to jump to communicate between servers, ti should tell you where most of your time is getting eaten at
[20:43] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  can you please give a little more detail thanks
[20:43] <zykotick9> paco_: kde = sparkle vomit IMO (heaviest of all DEs as far a resources)
[20:43] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: stupid university internet... I need the iPhone to have an IP from the actual DHCP server rather than my laptop
[20:43] <Dantevios> so you setup a wirless access point on your laptop Monotoko2 and you're trying to install a DHCP server on it to serve your IPhone an IP address?
[20:44] <nixiedoesalpine> live cd internet is fine when i nstall to hard disk it is extremrly slow
[20:44] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: nah... the laptop is assigning the iPhone a 169 address... when I need it to get the 10. address from the ethernet
[20:44] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine, this is wireless only ?
[20:44] <nixiedoesalpine> if i reboot and enter livecd and do dsl in networkmanager everything is fine
[20:44] <nixiedoesalpine> adsl
[20:44] <nixiedoesalpine> username password
[20:44] <paco_> zykotick9, what does that mean??
[20:45] <nixiedoesalpine> wired
[20:45] <Dantevios> Monotoko2: why don't you just set yourself an IP on the school network in the 10. range statically on your iphone and use the schools DNS?
[20:45] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: I have.... it doesn't work
[20:45] <paco_> what was the command to install kubuntu again??
[20:45] <Dantevios> so the problem isn't with ubuntu connecting to your school network, the problem is you can't get the school's DHCP server to serve your IPhone an IP address correct Monotoko2 ?
[20:45] <nixiedoesalpine> btw i also tried 12.10 beta 1 same problem live mode internet is fine when i install to hard disk this problem arises
[20:46] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  again is this Wireless Only ?
[20:46] <nixiedoesalpine> nope
[20:46] <nixiedoesalpine> adsl-pppoe
[20:46] <mac_12> I'd like to disable daemon like zeitgeist (i run ubuntu 12.04)at every start
[20:46] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: correct, when I connect it to the laptop it wants to serve it a 169 address, even if I override it statically
[20:46] <Monotoko2> (then it just doesn't work at all)
[20:46] <nixiedoesalpine> driver is r8169
[20:46] <zykotick9> paco_: nothing.  disregard.  best of luck!
[20:47] <paco_> zykotick9, what is the command again?
[20:47] <DaemonicApathy> mac_12: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[20:47] <Dantevios> how is your IPhone connected to your laptop Monotoko2 ? through usb?
[20:47] <DaemonicApathy> I prefer Izzy's solution.
[20:47] <zykotick9> paco_: "apt-cache search kde" then "sudo apt-get install FOO"
[20:47] <bjorkintosh> is there a tool for configuring unity?
[20:47] <nixiedoesalpine> is this kernel issue ?
[20:47] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  what is the cards ? please open your terminal and enter in      lspci -nn      then pastebin the output of that then     lsmod   and pastebin the output of that also thanks
[20:47] <bjorkintosh> i don't like the 'effects.
[20:47] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: network sharing... I'm connected to the ethernet, then I tried to connect the iPhone to the wifi... can I connect it to the 'net via USB?
[20:47] <bjorkintosh> correction. i don't need the "effects".
[20:47] <DaemonicApathy> bjorkintosh: MyUnity or gnome-tweak-tool
[20:48] <bjorkintosh> ah okay. thanks.
[20:48] <DaemonicApathy> You could also use compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:48] <bobweaver> or dconf editor
[20:48] <nixiedoesalpine> bobweaver http://pastebin.com/JNG9Ueen
[20:49] <bjorkintosh> so compiz is what exactly?
[20:49] <bobweaver> thanks nixiedoesalpine  that was fast for no internet speeds
[20:49] <bjorkintosh> the 'thing' behind unity, is it?
[20:49] <VlanZ> hey there, how do i check the current directory for upload/download on atftpd?
[20:49] <nixiedoesalpine> am on live cd
[20:49] <Dantevios> Monotoko2: I'm just not understanding your setup Monotoko2. The school has wifi, your laptop is connected to the school network via ethernet. How are you trying to add your IPhone to the network, and what does it have to do with ubuntu specifically? I'm just confused at what you're trying to do here.
[20:49] <zykotick9> bobweaver: fyi, for hybrid cards i "believe" -v is required for lspci to show both.  just pointin' out.
[20:49] <nixiedoesalpine> i am in live cd mode
[20:50] <bobweaver> ahh thanks to the both of you
[20:50] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: the school only has ethernet... I've turned my laptop into a wifi point (using an ad-hoc network: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing) and Ubuntu is assigning me a 169 address
[20:50] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  did you pastebin the output of lsmod ?
[20:50] <Monotoko2> rather than the "upstream" 10. address
[20:50] <bjorkintosh> bloody hell. compiz crashed it.
[20:50] <hilo> guntbert: no beans still, the command shows only 640x480 and 800x600 as available resolutions
[20:50] <kriskropd> Dantevios: it sounds like hes just trying to adhoc the schools network and turn his laptop into an access point
[20:51] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: correct :)
[20:51] <nixiedoesalpine> http://pastebin.com/QiW0n49G lsmod bob
[20:51] <zykotick9> bjorkintosh: you should have gotten a warning, CCSM can break Unity.
[20:51] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: you need to specify, as an access point, for any devices that connect to your wireless point to get their ip fromt he school dns
[20:51] <bobweaver> thanks nixiedoesalpine
[20:51] <bjorkintosh> zykotick9, i did get a warning.
[20:51] <zykotick9> bjorkintosh: ok, perfect.
[20:51] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: give me a moment and ill bring more
[20:51] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: thank you
[20:51] <bjorkintosh> but how often do warnings keep you from reaching for a screwdriver?
[20:52] <guntbert> hilo: sorry then, I never tried it myself, the google result looked promising - how about you try with a different server?
[20:52] <DaemonicApathy> Depends on how the warning is phrased.
[20:52] <wN> bjorkintosh: i guess it would depend on the warning
[20:52] <bobweaver> !bug 1019669 | nixiedoesalpine  sound like a hit ? same card
[20:52] <bjorkintosh> "warning: shock hazard. no user serviceable parts".
[20:52] <mac_12> DaemonicApathy: thank you
[20:52] <DaemonicApathy> No problem.
[20:53] <nixiedoesalpine> aww
[20:53] <hilo> guntbert: The issue isn't vnc actually, its that I can't set the resolution higher than 800x600 locally, and in turn, since VNC is just a mirror of the Xscreen, I can't get higher resolutions on the vnc session either
[20:53] <Dantevios> Did you do the advanced configuration where you installed dnsmasq Monotoko2 ?
[20:53] <nixiedoesalpine> can i see the bug ?
[20:53] <DaemonicApathy> No worries, bjorkintosh - my mother once told me I'm grounded.
[20:53] <bjorkintosh> haha.
[20:53] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: no... can you take me through it? I litterally just enabled network sharing the GUI way
[20:53] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  launchpad.net/bugs/1019669
[20:53] <nixiedoesalpine> aaah
[20:54] <gordonjcp> bjorkintosh: "No user serviceable parts inside" makes a hell of a lot of assumptions about the user
[20:54] <Dantevios> which version of ubuntu are you using Monotoko2 ?
[20:54] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: 12.04
[20:54] <nixiedoesalpine> any chance of getting this solved in 12.10 coz 12.10 beta 1 same problem bobweaver?
[20:54] <DaemonicApathy> gordonjcp: No it doesn't, it just means you have to move the parts outside first.
[20:54] <fippo> Hi, is it possible to install a 3.2 mainline kernel into lucid
[20:54] <guntbert> hilo: as I said I have very limited experience in this realm, but I thought that xvnc doesn't even need a local video card
[20:55] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  I would 100% say that you should look at this also http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1964451.html
[20:55] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  for everything above 12.04 we use the channel #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <Dantevios> are you sure if your wireless card can act as an access point Monotoko2 ? like can you actually see the SSID you setup from your IPhone?
[20:56] <fippo> Unfortunately I'm not directly connected with the new pc to the internet and I'm using a pen drive to load the debs
[20:56] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: I'm sure, it just won't connect to it (: it recieves a 169 IP address from the access point
[20:56] <Dantevios> because I remember when I was doing wireless security research there were only a few pcmcia cards I looked at that supported being used as a WAP
[20:56] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: it appears as "KatieLaptop"
[20:56] <Monotoko2> on the iPhone
[20:57] <Dantevios> hrmm i'll be back in 10 and ponder it some more Monotoko2
[20:57] <fippo> Also I'm on a slow link, but I think I will need a newer kernel to get the sata controller working (intel panther point)
[20:57] <nixiedoesalpine> bobweaver what should i do now ?
[20:57] <Monotoko2> thank you Dantevios, might just have to buy a wifi router if I can't get this working... but I apprechiate the help
[20:58] <nixiedoesalpine> which distro should i use
[20:58] <DaemonicApathy> nixie: you might consider making a startup disk of the latest (12.04).
[20:58] <fippo> the sata controller works on a precise 3.2 kernel (live-cd) and I'm able to chroot into the lucid system
[20:58] <hilo> guntbert: I haven't had much experience with tweaking xserver or vnc stuff. The problem seems somewhat common, but the solution rather confusing or attached with lots of warnings about breaking things...
[20:58] <test0987> pleeease help me. I got this strange error installing some packages
[20:58] <test0987> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1229277/
[20:58] <DaemonicApathy> nixie: Never mind, crossed streams.
[20:59] <hilo> guntbert: thanks for your help
[20:59] <fippo> no lucid live or alternate cd works with that controller.
[20:59] <guntbert> hilo: Good luck!
[20:59] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: yeah im sorry im taking so long too, this isn't something we often do http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ take a look at that
[20:59] <nixiedoesalpine> man what to do without browsing lol give me short term suggestion
[20:59] <nixiedoesalpine> which distro
[21:00] <bobweaver> nixiedoesalpine,  lol use whatever distro works for you but , seems like this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1964451.html   dude hade the same issue as you and was able to fix it by changing drivers
[21:00] <DaemonicApathy> test0987: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[21:00] <fippo> I now downloaded t the pen drive this one http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/linux-image-3.0.0-26-generic
[21:00] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: already done that... that's what is giving me the 169 address
[21:00] <fippo> But I'm not sure, if that will work
[21:00] <jrib> test0987: re-enable the -updates repository
[21:01] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: no problem... I would call myself a ubuntu veterin, and I've just hit a wall here
[21:01] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: if it is really adhoc, then it should be bridging over to the eth0 and using that dns O.o
[21:02] <test0987> DaemonicApathy: Of all those commands, I do them all
[21:02] <test0987> except sudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name
[21:02] <test0987> nothing changed
[21:02] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: did you put the dns of your eth0 in the ipv4 settings?
[21:03] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: for your WAP I mean
[21:03] <test0987> jrib: What do you mean with "-update repositories"? I enabled main,universe,multiverse
[21:03] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: no I didn't, but the iPhone seems to pick that up
[21:03] <Monotoko2> 10.169.192.1
[21:03] <jrib> test0987: your issue is likely because you had the -updates repository enabled at some point, updated, and now you've disabled it. The easiest solution is to just enable -updates again
[21:03] <jrib> !repository | test0987
[21:04] <test0987> jrib: Oh you're right!"
[21:04] <test0987> update repos were disabled :/
[21:04] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: i wouldn't think so if its not using it as the dns, i can't help you then, thats just kind of bizarre
[21:04] <test0987> wtf, I don't remember to have disabled them
[21:04] <test0987> anyway thanks. I'm gonna try right now jrib
[21:04] <jrib> test0987: no problem
[21:05] <jrib> test0987: first jrib troubleshooting session is free for italians
[21:05] <test0987> lol
[21:05] <ParkerM> does anyone know why launching networkmanager would cause my computer to freeze?
[21:05] <Monotoko2> kriskropd: ... it just brought up a login screen, but went to the index.html and brought a notfound error, rather than the actual URL
[21:06] <jagginess> ParkerM, it does? sounds like you'd be using a terrible driver somewhere
[21:06] <test0987> there's no gonna be a second jrib  :p
[21:06] <Monotoko2> without the index.html D:
[21:06] <ParkerM> i had some problems when first installing
[21:06] <ParkerM> and installed another driver
[21:06] <jrib> test0987: ok :)
[21:06] <jagginess> ParkerM, ndiswrapper? that can be havoc
[21:06] <bobweaver> jagginess,  +1
[21:06] <ParkerM> im not sure if thats what it was or not
[21:07] <bobweaver> ParkerM,  you can install HTop and open it and watch what goes on ?
[21:07] <bobweaver> when launching NM
[21:07] <bekks> htop wont show you something freezing.
[21:07] <fippo> Ok I'll try the oneiric backport kernel 3.0.0.26 then first, bye
[21:07] <DaemonicApathy> It will show a CPU hog, though.
[21:08] <bekks> Looking at dmesg is more helpful.
[21:08] <bobweaver> and mem also
[21:08] <bobweaver> true beeks
[21:08] <VlanZ> hey, how do i change the folder for atftpd?
[21:08] <DaemonicApathy> bobweaver: good point - I'm spoiled, and don't often think of overusing memory
[21:08] <VlanZ> can anybody help me?
[21:09] <andrewjs18> has anyone ever set up a smart host with Verizon as their ISP?
[21:09] <bobweaver> DaemonicApathy,  it is not valgrind by any means but it helps sometimes
[21:09] <Muelli> !anyone | VlanZ
[21:09] <Monotoko2> !poll
[21:09] <VlanZ> Muelli: i've done my question just 4 lines above...
[21:09] <Monotoko2> sorry, I was wondering what that did :P
[21:10] <DaemonicApathy> What kind of person tests something to see how it works? Honestly... ;-)
[21:10] <tyler_d> Anyone care to help me get my 'fn' key working on my apple wireless keyboard please?
[21:10] <kriskropd> Monotoko2: the silly thing is, BestBot is relatively bad as people just go in and make it say "this is awesome because I say so" or stuff along those lines
[21:11] <DaemonicApathy> Does it currently do anything, tyler_d?
[21:11] <tyler_d> DaemonicApathy: Nothing, not even when input through xev
[21:12] <DaemonicApathy> Seems like a common problem, best addressed through Apple support: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3875276?start=0&tstart=0
[21:15] <DaemonicApathy> tyler_d: On second thought, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9842686&postcount=98
[21:16] <tyler_d> DaemonicApathy: I'm unsure how that is relevant as the 'fn' key does nothing on my keyboard
[21:16] <bobweaver> tyler_d,  what does   rfkill list all    look like ?
[21:16] <Dantevios> so I have no clue about why your IPhone wont route correctly Monotoko2 after the advice kriskropd gave you. Sorry
[21:17] <bobweaver> tyler_d,  also if you could *pastebin*  the output os lsmod |grep wmi     that would be helpful thanks
[21:18] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: after running ifconfig I see that the wifi seems to be on it's own network (10.42.0.1)
[21:18] <mhall> Hello, is there a human here who can get me some help with my Launchpad account? The SSO is broken and it's impossible for me to log in to comment on a bug.
[21:19] <jagginess> mhall, try flushing all your webbrowser history :/
[21:19] <tyler_d> bobweaver: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1229307/
[21:19] <mhall> jagginess: I deleted all cookies and reloaded. No dice.
[21:19] <bobweaver> mhall,  did you talk on #launchpad ?
[21:19] <mhall> bobweaver: didn't know it existed, will try it right now
[21:20] <bobweaver> mhall,  there is also a resolve channel too but can not remember the name of it
[21:20] <mhall> bobweaver: I'll start with this one you advised and see what happens
[21:20] <mhall> bobweaver: Hopefully I don't get flamed back out the front door ;)
[21:21] <bobweaver> tyler_d,  this is a wireless keyboard or usb ?
[21:22] <tyler_d> bobweaver: it's a bluetooth, but the product is called a "wireless keyboard"
[21:22] <Froward> Hello, I want help with Gnumeric. Can someone knowledgeable please help me? The #gnumeric irc channel is useless.
[21:23] <DaemonicApathy> Froward, what is the actual question?
[21:24] <Froward> DaemonicApathy: I want to clear a range of cells, or set them to a default value.
[21:24] <Froward> DaemonicApathy: is there a way to make a button and have a list of functions that runs?
[21:24] <write> hey everybody, does anyone know how can i be sure that my display driver is installed on ubuntu 12.04... it seems to me that its runing like its missing.. laggy scrolling in firefox etc, laggy on youtube playback, even movies in VLC get stuck, or lagg really bad when the screen is comming to get coloured or something..
[21:24] <Dantevios> Monotoko2: this may be something you need to discuss with the #networking channel as well
[21:25] <Dantevios> they may be able to help you figure out your networking problem
[21:25] <Monotoko2> Dantevios: will try, thank you
[21:25] <Dantevios> np sorry i couldn't be of more help
[21:25] <DaemonicApathy> Froward: that I don't know. If the #gnumeric channel doesn't help, I'd read some of the documentation.
[21:26] <Froward> DaemonicApathy: I have :/ their manual is woefully incomplete. I have a function list, but I can't search it.
[21:26] <DaemonicApathy> LibreOffice ftw. :-)
[21:26] <Froward> DaemonicApathy: I might just be misunderstanding basic syntax. I think they're building an excel clone and expect me to know what the hell I'm doing! (I don't.)
[21:26] <Froward> ugh, man
[21:26] <Froward> I switched to gnumeric in the first place because openoffice DELETED the original spreadsheet
[21:27] <Froward> apparently if it crashes or has any problem, it wipes the spreadsheet. And it's a "known issue".
[21:27] <tyler_d> Froward: calc doesn't work for you?
[21:27] <Froward> tyler_d: see above.
[21:27] <Froward> I don't want that to happen again.
[21:27] <DaemonicApathy> I dislike standard OpenOffice when given LibreOffice as an alternative.
[21:27] <WeThePeople> does this mean ip identification>>> ipid
[21:28] <Froward> What's different about libreoffice? I thought they were the same
[21:28] <Froward> just, one is branded by sun, right?
[21:28] <DaemonicApathy> Better compatibility and usability, ime.
[21:28] <DaemonicApathy> I've run into a few extensions handled by LO and not OO.
[21:28] <Froward> well, I might install that, then.
[21:29] <AlexO> Hi I've a PC without internet and I need to install some pakage on it how can i do that? (I can acces to it with ssh/scp/w/e but it can't reach internet)
[21:29] <OerHeks> !offline | AlexO
[21:29] <AlexO> OerHeks: thanks
[21:30] <OerHeks> AptonCD would be my choice
[21:30] <qnix_> Hey! When I'm alt-tab'ing, it is now suddenly a very simple gray design -- what has happened?
[21:30] <mr-rich> I have 4 virtual desktops and I want different wallpaper on each one. How do I do this?
[21:30] <jagginess> AlexO, you can access that computer over the internet, after you physically go over there and connect it to the internet
[21:30] <write> can anyone help ? :-s
[21:30] <Froward> DaemonicApathy: THanks for trying, anyway :)
[21:30] <tyler_d> !ask
[21:30] <OerHeks> mr-rich i think ubuntu-tweak can do that.
[21:31] <write> hey everybody, does anyone know how can i be sure that my display driver is installed on ubuntu 12.04... it seems to me that its runing like its missing.. laggy scrolling in firefox etc, laggy on youtube playback, even movies in VLC get stuck, or lagg really bad when the screen is comming to get coloured or something..
[21:31] <DaemonicApathy> mr-rich: I use the wallpaper option in compiz, and gnome-tweak-tool to disable the system wallpaper. The trade-off is that the desktop is no longer available for icons or clicking.
[21:32] <sliddjur> find -size +1M why does this print out folder name? can i just get the filename somehow?
[21:33] <DaemonicApathy> write: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28033/how-to-check-the-information-of-current-installed-video-drivers
[21:33] <qnix_> My Ubuntu 12.4 suddenly stopped looking "beatiful" -- for example, when alt-tabing, it is just small gray windows95 design..? Wtf happened?
[21:33] <jrib> sliddjur: why?
[21:33] <turtle_> anyoen had any experience of YouTube videos being off color? and by off color i mean everyone is blue. :)
[21:34] <jagginess> turtle_, yes..
[21:34] <genii-around> turtle_: Turn off hardware acceleraton in your Flash
[21:34] <jagginess> turtle_, there's a fix for that.. i think they're patching that
[21:34] <turtle_> cool, cheers guys :)
[21:34] <jagginess> turtle_, but i believe nvidia is the main reason
[21:34] <sliddjur> jrib: i mean, not why. but how to only print out the files? cause now the output is ./olof/filenames
[21:34] <jagginess> turtle_, hopefully nvidia fixes it
[21:35] <jagginess> turtle_,  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177380
[21:35] <jrib> turtle_: yes, common bug -_-. Search for some smurf nvidia bug :)  (if you can't find the bug on launchpad, let me know and I will get it for you)
[21:35] <_0x783czar> Help, I was trying to install a package and it failed.  I realized I don't even need that package and so I'm trying to remove it.  It tried apt-get purge PACKAGENAME but it failed while trying to remove the package.  Any ideas?
[21:35] <write> DaemonicApathy: can you guide me a bit? i've done the first step and got: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290]
[21:35] <turtle_> lol s'all good guys, my internet connection is frickin terrible here, i'm watching a YT video and wont be able to load any pages, so thought i'd ask on here before jumping on google for fixes :)
[21:36] <jagginess> turtle_, commonly too is the "overlay" problem, not just the bluish skin tone
[21:36] <jrib> sliddjur: you can see find's -print options I guess.  Or use basename with -exec.  But if you want to do something with these names, then if you say what that something is, we can help you better
[21:36] <write> DaemonicApathy: on step two, i got  $ find /dev -group video
[21:36] <write> /dev/fb0
[21:36] <write> /dev/video0
[21:36] <jrib> sliddjur: I mean -printf
[21:36] <joan> hi, I'm trying to put the firmware onto my printer with the "cat" command as indicated in cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1018.dl > /dev/usb/lp0, but I get a "cat: Invalid argument" error. Any ideas?
[21:36] <jagginess> turtle_, (i gave a url link)
[21:37] <joan> oops, this is the url: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018
[21:38] <turtle_> yeh i'm gonn have to wait to open it ;)
[21:39] <VlanZ> how do i avoid to be prompted for password when ubuntu starts up?
[21:39] <OerHeks> joan cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1018.dl | lpr
[21:39] <gordonjcp> VlanZ: there's an auto login setting somewhere
[21:40] <joan> with a pipe? OerHeks , ok
[21:40] <gordonjcp> VlanZ: try "User Accounts"
[21:41] <pentarex1> hey guys How can I mount nfs (Network File System) in Ubuntu?
[21:41] <Froward> There's an Expose-like feature called "show windows" that I turned on using Ubuntu Tweak. It only sometimes works, and it isn't working now. How do I fix this?
[21:42] <Froward> just the basic pattern, what to google, etc, would be very helpful.
[21:42] <Froward> I know it only works in 3D mode, not 2d mode.
[21:42] <Domincii> How can I install my graphics drivers? I have a radeon 7970 HD 3GB oc
[21:42] <DaemonicApathy> The Scale feature in compiz does much the same, Froward.
[21:43] <iFlip> pentarex1: use the connect to server option in places
[21:43] <Froward> Oh, weird. The corner was turned off in Ubuntu Tweak. Weird.
[21:43] <Froward> I don't like it when settings change mysteriously ಠ_ಠ
[21:43] <pentarex1> iFlip: what ?
[21:44] <Froward> Domincii: I can't get mine to install, either :/
[21:44] <iFlip> pentarex1: "Connect to server" in the "places" section of your menu bar
[21:44] <VlanZ> gordonjcp: there it is.. thank you :)
[21:45] <jagginess> Froward, whatever is with "ubuntu-tweak" it's trial and error. It breaks things with unity..  (I don't know why it does, so i just simply use gnome-classic)
[21:45] <Froward> gnome classic is a window manager, correct
[21:45] <pentarex> iFlip: 10x
[21:45] <jagginess> Froward, tweak tools on the unity desktop breaks things.. (especially with ppa stuff)
[21:46] <Froward> good to know.
[21:46] <jagginess> Froward, a few things dont cause too many problems, like the font change
[21:46] <Froward> What's a decent file commander for.. ubuntu? linux? something with an address bar. Please don't say "use a command line".
[21:46] <iFlip> ur ver 10x
[21:46] <gordonjcp> Froward: what are you trying to do?
[21:46] <Froward> type in a file location given by an error report.
[21:47] <Froward> the two panes of nautilus does 80% of what I use a file commander for.
[21:47] <iFlip> Open a finder window and click on FILE - locate CONNECT TO SERVER
[21:47] <iFlip> It's pretty straight forward
[21:47] <jagginess> iFlip, "finder" window? lol.. that's so mac-talk.
[21:48] <iFlip> pentarex1 ^^^
[21:48] <iFlip> Either way it still translates - your the one who can't connect to a server
[21:48] <jagginess> iFlip, shouldnt say "finder" window.. most people on linux never touched a mac
[21:49] <iFlip> I'm done talking to you - figure it out yourself. Try google, or do linux users not use google...
[21:49] <jagginess> !
[21:49] <jagginess> :/
[21:50] <_0x783czar> nm, figured it out
[21:50] <tbc0> My alt-tab-menu on Ubuntu 12.4 has suddenly become gray an ugly (Windows95-style). Why?
[21:51] <Froward> How do I move from 32 bit to 64 bit ubuntu?
[21:51] <Froward> wait, I can google that
[21:51] <OerHeks> only reinstall, Froward.
[21:52] <WeThePeople> froward, sudo apt-get install mc   just do it :)   then type 'mc' in terminal and a file commander will open :)
[21:52] <JainAmber> Hello
[21:52] <WeThePeople> hi
[21:52] <nmvs__Oh> Hi
[21:53] <jagginess> WeThePeople, (i think he said he doesnt want to use cli)
[21:53] <WeThePeople> weird lol
[21:53] <jagginess> but mc is good (for it's easy mcedit cli editor)
[21:54] <JainAmber> Is there a command equivalent to Synaptic's "Add downloaded packages"?
[21:54] <nmvs__Oh> alguien de chileeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:54] <nmvs__Oh> xd
[21:54] <nmvs__Oh> xd
[21:54] <FloodBot1> nmvs__Oh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <Domincii_> How do I install my graphis drivers?
[21:54] <JainAmber> I need to automate the process of adding local .deb files to apt cache...
[21:55] <WeThePeople> jainamber, sudo apt-get install (package)  ??
[21:56] <Domincii_> Anyone who can help me with graphics drivers? anyone at all?
[21:56] <JainAmber> I can do so using 'cp *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/' but is there some way to do this using apt?
[21:56] <JainAmber> WeThePeople, maybe my last comment^ will clarify what I'm trying to do...
[21:56] <jrib> JainAmber: you could setup a local repository?
[21:57] <JainAmber> yea, I read about apt-cache but maybe there's a simpler way to do this....
[21:57] <jrib> JainAmber: why do you want to do it?  What's your end-goal?
[21:57] <WeThePeople> jainamber, yup.. obviously idk :)
[21:58] <ovnicraft>  am tring yo install ubuntu server 10.04 on ibm x3650 m3 with sas/raid
[21:58] <ovnicraft> so ubuntu is not detecting the disk, why this ?
[21:58] <ovnicraft> is not supported ?
[21:58] <WeThePeople> domincii_, just ask your question
[21:58] <JainAmber> apt-cache is supposed for scenarios when someone wants to setup a local server (in a LAN) and wants to use it as a repo in sources.list.
[21:58] <ovnicraft> SAS raid ?
[21:58] <bekks> ovnicraft: Try the alternate installer.
[21:58] <Domincii_> Ok, I don't seem to have any graphics drivers installed
[21:58] <Domincii_> How do I do that?
[21:59] <WeThePeople> domincii_, what distro you on
[21:59] <Domincii_> Distro?
[21:59] <nmvs__Oh> s.o
[21:59] <WeThePeople> domincii_, 10.04 12.04 ????
[21:59] <nmvs__Oh> lo mismo
[21:59] <JainAmber> jrib, I have a script that does 'sudo apt-get install' for hundreds of packages. Now I want to add a line to the script to check if there are any .deb files in current directory and add it to /var/cache/apt/archives if they are compatible with current installed Ubuntu version
[21:59] <Domincii_> 12.04
[21:59] <nmvs__Oh> version
[22:00] <jrib> JainAmber: /why/?  Where would these debs come from?
[22:00] <jagginess> jrib, .debs they come from the internet! mwhaha
[22:00] <jrib> :x
[22:01] <jrib> JainAmber: I'm not even sure what exactly you mean by the "if" clause in your statement
[22:02] <WeThePeople> domincii_, try to find system administration
[22:02] <JainAmber> jrib, I can use simple 'cp' to copy files from current directory to /var/cache/apt/archives but then it won't check if packages are for same ubuntu version/arch which is installed on this machine....
[22:02] <JainAmber> jrib, These debs were copied either from another system's /var/cache/apt/archives, downloaded from packages.ubuntu.com OR downloaded using Synaptics' "Generate package download script"...
[22:02] <Domincii_> As in System Settings?
[22:03] <jrib> JainAmber: so what's the issue with just having apt download them again?
[22:03] <wabash> Helllo.  So, my ubuntu shows all the partitions on my machine, and the user can mount any of them. I actually want to make them non-user-mountable. How do I do that?
[22:03] <Dr_willis> or use an apt-cacher-ng server on the lan to cache all the debs....
[22:04] <jrib> yes
[22:04] <Dr_willis> wabash,  you mean all the 'windows' partitions?
[22:04] <jrib> JainAmber: maybe I just don't understand what it is that you are trying to accomplish
[22:04] <wabash> Dr_willis: Anything. Yes, windows, but also other linux partitions.
[22:04] <WeThePeople> domincii_, yeah look for hardware drivers
[22:05] <t4nk146> hi folks, have question.. need some help locating some usb 3.0 drivers for my laptop's express card.
[22:05] <Dr_willis> wabash,  i dont recall it letting users mount ext 2/3/4 by default without roots password.
[22:05] <JainAmber> jrib, this is for a small college lab. In developing countries, network connections are slow (30-50kbps). Moreover, this small college lab is part of 'parent' university network and I have no control over university's network (which can go down anytime thanks to crap admins).
[22:05] <wabash> Dr_willis: Ok, well it is. So, do you have a suggestion as to how to block a partition from being mounted?
[22:05] <Froward> nggggh. I can't sync my /home folder to ubuntu one, because it overlaps with the default Ubuntu One folder. And I can't unsync the ubuntu one folder!
[22:06] <wabash> (through nautilus, I believe...)
[22:06] <Dr_willis> wabash,  for ntfs theres the ntfs-config tool that can tweak the settings.. Not sure about the others.. normal ext2/3/4 permissions and ownership would apply even if they are mounted
[22:06] <Froward> And my ctrl+shift+escape shortcut that I set for the task manager won't work, so now I can't even kill the dumbass ubuntu one program that froze!
[22:06] <t4nk146> anyone?
[22:07] <jrib> JainAmber: so you don't want to use apt-cacher because the network is flaky?
[22:07] <wabash> Dr_willis: Well, I want to prevent them from being mounted. Any ideas?
[22:07] <jagginess> wabash, tricky.. i havent fully been able to edit a dbus policy -- but if you want to have all the ntfs harddrives not to "automount" then you may get the usb drives to not automount as well if you do this-- (simply move out a dbus mount rule from /etc/xdg/autostart if there's one, don't delete, but move it out, be very selective)
[22:07] <nmvs__Oh> alguien de chile
[22:07] <Dr_willis> wabash,  its the gnome services that are doing it i imagine. check askubuntu.com yet? looking there now..
[22:08] <wabash> jagginess: thanks for the reply. But small misunderstanding. These are ext4 partitions, and the user can mount by clicking a menu item. I want to make the mount policy so that users can't mount. But these drives aren't even listed in fstab.
[22:08] <wabash> Dr_willis: I'll take a look there. Interesting, have not seen it before.  Thank you for looking too...
[22:09] <jagginess> wabash, it's the same rule policy, try finding it
[22:09] <jagginess> wabash, it would be in /etc/xdg/autostart
[22:09] <Aelingil> Froward: Is the Ubuntu running in the background? / Can you access Terminal?
[22:10] <jagginess> wabash, sorry i bummed this.. it's in /etc/dbus-1/system.d
[22:10] <wabash> jagginess: Hm. Looking there too. I see lots of stuff about apps, but nothing about mounting. Any suggestion?
[22:10] <wabash> ok, looking there then.
[22:10] <Dr_willis> wabash,  some of the related questions seem to suggest mounting them somewhere else  :) or use a fstab entry with noauto, if theres a fstab entry then nautilus ignores them (or so it says)
[22:10] <jagginess> wabash, it may* be /etc//dbus-1/system.d/Mountall.Server.conf
[22:10] <DaemonicApathy> Froward: as far as I know, escape doesn't work well with shortcuts - so my system monitor is ctrl-shift-Q instead.
[22:10] <kelly51> hi need some help?
[22:10] <wabash> Dr_willis: ah, so it's 'default allow' instead of 'default deny'? I'll have to put an explicit entry for each drive t oblock?
[22:11] <jagginess> wabash, i feel it may be more this one-> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.UDisks.conf
[22:11] <jagginess> wabash, simply move that one out, and relogin :)
[22:11] <Dr_willis>  0 down vote
[22:11] <Dr_willis> 	
[22:11] <Dr_willis> By adding the volumes to /etc/fstab you can make sure that they don't show up on the desktop
[22:11] <jagginess> wabash, as for usb drives autodetection, you can try to make a .conf dbus rule for that.. but i wouldn't know how to
[22:12] <jagginess> Dr_willis, it's dbus.
[22:12] <jrib> kelly51: hi, to help you, we need you to ask a question ;)
[22:12] <wabash> jagginess: Interesting.
[22:12] <Dr_willis> im just skimming the askubuntu.com suggestions. ;)
[22:12] <jrib> aww
[22:12] <jagginess> wabash, did it work? (move the *udisks.conf file)
[22:12] <wabash> jagginess: Wow, how complicated. But that will mess up my flash drives too... right?
[22:12] <JainAmber> jrib, Nevermind. I think "sudo dpkg -iR directory" is what will fulfill my needs. Thanks!
[22:12] <wabash> Dr_willis: That may be what I have to do....
[22:12] <jagginess> wabash, well i'm not sure on that.. but that's why you'll need to know how to make a dbus rule file
[22:13] <jagginess> wabash, maybe if you study that udisks.conf file it might give a hint
[22:13] <wabash> jagginess: Right! wow, a lot t olearn just to manage a drive permission.
[22:13] <jrib> JainAmber: ok
[22:13] <Dr_willis> some suggestions are to mount the  things you dont want see to some where other then /media/  that wont affect the hot plug devices
[22:13] <JainAmber> To be specific, I didn't knew about dpkg's -R option. Now with -Ri combo, dpkg will search specified directory for .deb files and install them.
[22:13] <wabash> Dr_willis: You mean have a mount point specified in fstab?
[22:13] <jagginess> wabash, it's dbus stuff.. and dbus documentation on this is still crappy imho (this was back a few months ago.. maybe someone spiced up a doc about it(
[22:13] <Dr_willis> wabash,  thats what they say.
[22:13] <JainAmber> It seems RTFM trick works! :D
[22:13] <HazRPG> hey all \o anyone here have experience getting arabic subtitles to work on xbmc?
[22:14] <jagginess> wabash, /etc/fstab doesnt help. because it's dbus.
[22:14] <wabash> jagginess: I see.
[22:14] <Dr_willis> wabash,  if its in fstab., and not mounted it nautiluys/dbus may ignore it.   is what im reading. one way to find out.
[22:14] <jrib> JainAmber: right, but you're still copying the debs all over the place instead of just using apt; seems strange
[22:14] <jagginess> , /etc/fstab isn't user land..
[22:14] <wabash> jagginess: I feel Ubu has gone downhill...... It's trying to be iPhone, yet I have not an iPhone on my desk....
[22:14] <jagginess> wabash, dbus isnt tied to ubuntu only.. in fact it's why linux is getting better :)
[22:15] <wabash> Dr_willis: That's worth a try. jagginess: well, what he's saying is that fstab may be consulted by dbus.
[22:15] <wabash> jagginess: Sure, but where's the docs?
[22:15] <jagginess> wabash, dunno
[22:15] <wabash> jagginess: Exactly!
[22:15] <johnnna> Hey my internet messed up after i typed in this command how do i reverse this
[22:15] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/156894/disable-mount-for-internal-hdds
[22:15] <wabash> Dr_willis: jagginess: thank you both. going to try something.
[22:15] <jrib> JainAmber: I don't know the details, but couldn't you just create an install image with the packages you want already, and then install from that?  Might be useful to have for the future at least
[22:15] <JainAmber> jrib, yes, the best way to do this is to use 'apt-cacher' which I'll do asap. I'm a bit busy atm to be able to look into this (I'm volunteer student helping setup the lab).
[22:15] <johnnna> sudo iptables -P INPUT DROP
[22:16] <wabash> Dr_willis: reading that now.
[22:16] <ippo> I'm trying to downgrade glade 3.12 to 3.8, how can I do it?
[22:16] <Dr_willis> that last one mentions fstab and udeb
[22:16] <Dr_willis> udev
[22:16] <jrib> JainAmber: ah!  Now I understand.
[22:17] <JainAmber> jrib, yea, creating an install image is another good idea. But I guess apt-cacher is the best solution since all we need to do is download package once on apt-cacher server. And, all other PCs on LAN can then get package from local server (if they have LAN apt-cacher server in sources.list).
[22:17] <jagginess> wabash, yeah you can try that udev.. hopefully that'll prevent dbus from using those internal hdd's..
[22:17] <Dr_willis> apt-cacher is handy. :)
[22:18] <write> does anyone know how to uninstal the proprietary driver and install an open source one ? ...
[22:18] <bekks> jagginess: sudo iptables -P INPUT ALLOW
[22:18] <JainAmber> Because with install images I'll need to create a new install image every time I need to upgrade systems... But with apt-cacher, it's like: Do once and forget about it! :)
[22:18] <bekks> johnnna: sudo iptables -P INPUT ALLOW
[22:18] <Dr_willis> write,  driver for what?
[22:19] <write> Dr_willis: for AMD Radeon 6290 ... my netbook runs really bad right now cause of it
[22:19] <JainAmber> And, slow network speed won't be a issue when using 'apt-cacher' since systems need to fetch packages from LAN server....
[22:20] <Dr_willis> write,  that 'additional-drivers' tool should let you enable/disable the fglrx driver.
[22:20] <EyePulp> howdy - recently upgraded a box to 12.04 LTS.  I usually use it via ssh & command line, but finally hooked up a monitor to use the desktop.  The desktop doesn't seem to accept the password for the same user account I can ssh into.  I've reset that account's passwd (over ssh) too, but doesn't seem to fix it.  Any thoughts?
[22:20] <hvq> hi, I am using vim and suddenly my terminal input language changed to Russian while I never use this kind of language. How can I fix this.
[22:20] <hvq> Thanx
[22:20] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  what happens exactly when you try to login?
[22:21] <JainAmber> Lack of time to setup server is the only thing which is keeping me from getting my hands dirty with apt-cacher. In fact, I plan to use server as apt-cacher, dhcp server, transparent proxy server etc.
[22:21] <Dr_willis> write,  run the additional-drivers tool from the menus, or run 'gksudo jockey-gtk' to disable the fglrx driver.
[22:21] <wabash> jagginess: Dr_willis: Ok, interesting. I added an explicit line to fstab with a mount policy of 'nouser', and fstype of 'auto'. Real simple, bare-bones, yes? And immediately upon saving my edits to fstab, the partition is gone from the nautilus menu!  Hooray!!!!
[22:21] <Dr_willis> write,  theres no need to PM me...
[22:21] <wabash> jagginess: Dr_willis Thank you for your help!!
[22:21] <SlimboyPhat> cool
[22:21] <wabash> JainAmber: You the guy from machine learning?
[22:22] <write> Dr_willis: oke, ill run gksudo jockey-gtk, but how do i install an open source driver? where do i get it from
[22:22] <Dr_willis> wabash,   what if they use kde? ;P
[22:22] <Dr_willis> write,  its allready installed.....
[22:22] <JainAmber> yes wabash, ml-class and ai-class! :)
[22:22] <wabash> Dr_willis: Hahahaha
[22:22] <EyePulp> dr_willis: It's got a username showing and an input box for password.  I fill in a valid one, screen goes black, comes back to the same login prompt.
[22:22] <jagginess> wabash, the thing is if you reboot, the devivemap may be different..
[22:22] <wabash> JainAmber: You have 2 ladies names!
[22:22] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  so its crashing back to the login screen.....
[22:22] <wabash> jagginess: I'll give it a shot; thank you for thinking of that.
[22:22] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  you ARE logging in. :) but its crashing.
[22:22] <jagginess> wabash, and then you'll have the same problem again.. unless maybe you use the UUID=
[22:22]  * JainAmber is a guy
[22:22] <EyePulp> Dr_willis: ah - that seems to fit
[22:22] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I am currently using 12.04 with gnome-shell, I want to change to KDE however. How can I transition smoothly?
[22:22] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  you can login at the console with the same user?
[22:23] <jagginess> wabash, (use the UUID if you can, even for ntfs partitions you can list the uuid's)
[22:23] <wabash> JainAmber: I know that. Was just being facetious.
[22:23] <JainAmber> :D
[22:23] <wabash> jagginess: How do I get the UUID?
[22:23] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  i see people say simielr things about 'cant login' a dozen times a day when in fact its some Settings in their home causing the desktop to fail to load.
[22:23] <EyePulp> Dr_willis: I'm ssh'd in if that's what you mean, or did you mean not over the network?
[22:23] <jagginess> blkid<enter>
[22:23] <jagginess> or ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[22:23] <wabash> jagginess: Ah, devicemapp, So my sdaX number might be different?
[22:24] <write> Dr_willis: $ gksudo jockey-gtk
[22:24] <write> (jockey-gtk:9742): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[22:24] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  dosent matter. if you can ssh in, then yes. you can login :) try resetting the users desktop settings and see if he can login at the lightdm screen.  But im not sure what settings to reset. ;0 seems a common issue today
[22:24] <jagginess> wabash, no.. but /dev/sda may become /dev/sdb if you turn on the computer with a usb stick plugged in
[22:24] <wabash> jagginess: How can that happen? Won't the device numbedrs be part of the partition table?
[22:24] <wabash> jagginess: Ah, gotcha!!!!
[22:24] <jagginess> wabash, it happens sometimes..
[22:24] <bekks> wabash: No.
[22:24] <bekks> Device information is never part of the partition table.
[22:24] <Dr_willis> wabash,  ive seen 'sda' be whatever usb ive booted from. then the rest go behind it.
[22:24] <wabash> jagginess: Good idea. So, blkid will give me UUID, and UUID is guaranteed to be the same all the time, for every os and boot?
[22:24] <EyePulp> Dr_willis: I'm in via ssh - what should I google for to start resetting?
[22:24] <jagginess> wabash, y
[22:25] <EyePulp> or is there a log to look @?
[22:25] <wabash> bekks: But wont the number be part? eg., sda4 is always '4'?
[22:25] <JainAmber> jrib, evil me is now going to create a few pendrives with all packages and 'dpkg -iR' script and hand them to ubuntu-newbie junior assistants. They'll need to manually run the script on all computers! ;)
[22:25] <turtle_> EyePulp, could it be really simple like keyboard layout
[22:25] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  you could make a backup directory and move the .gconf* and .config* and other dirs to it untill you figure out what setting is causing the issue.. also check the .Xauthority file. it sometiomes gets owned by root. when it should be oened by the user.
[22:25] <turtle_> any symbols in your password?
[22:25] <bekks> wabash: thats a content of the partition table, not some entity of the device.
[22:26] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  i tend to just move all  the dirs i know are unity/gnome related to a backup dir. and redo my desktop :)
[22:26] <jagginess> wabash, the uuid's are stored in the filesystem header..
[22:26] <Dr_willis> bbl.
[22:26] <wabash> bekks: Yep, that's what I was saying.
[22:26] <wabash> Dr_willis: Thank you for your help
[22:27] <wabash> jagginess: Ok, got UUID in there instead, and works just the same! thank you.
[22:27] <wabash> jagginess: re: tabs in fstab. Should be tab delimited, yes?
[22:27] <EyePulp> Dr_willis: thanks! it was the .Xauth file ownership
[22:27] <wabash> jagginess: My editor gives different size tabs than the original file. Is this ok?
[22:27] <jagginess> wabash, there's x avenues approaches.. glad it worked.. i think i'll use your method if i have to.. i hope a tool comes out that can graphically do this
[22:28] <wabash> jagginess: ditto.
[22:28] <trism> wabash: don't know if this is the sort of thing you are looking for (kind of late to the discussion) but you can use policykit to force a password prompt when mounting as an alternative
[22:28] <jugrnaut> My Ubuntu 12.4's alt-tabing has suddenly become ugly windows95-style? Why? Is it compiz or unity or color settings that has crashed/corrupted itself?
[22:29] <jagginess> trism, you mean an app does this already?
[22:29] <trism> wabash: /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/01-disable-mounting.pkla http://paste.ubuntu.com/1229423/ (seems to work here)
[22:29] <trism> jagginess: that's how we enable user mounting in the first place in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla
[22:30] <wabash> trism: Wow, thank you! Where can I find out more about policy kit?
[22:30] <jagginess> trism, interesting, but where's there documentation on how to further tweak this kind of thing? it's hard to find rtfm on it :/
[22:30] <blizzow> So my precise laptop keeps dying.  The / partition keeps getting "corrupt" and mounted read-only about 20-30 minutes after booting.
[22:30] <wabash> Exactly
[22:30] <myersg> my desktop computer is saying No boot filename received when I try to boot it
[22:30] <wabash> jagginess: This was my comment about ubu not being awesome as it was before. Sure, lotsa great features and stuff, but no way to use them.
[22:30] <trism> jagginess: yeah not really well documented, man pklocalauthority; is the best doc I know of
[22:30] <blizzow> I checked the drive with smartctl --all, and palimpsest.  All the SMART diagnostics come back green and healthy.
[22:31] <blizzow> I grabbed another laptop and swapped the drive over to that, and the same problem occurs.
[22:31] <blizzow> Is there any known bug that might be causing this?
[22:31] <myersg> what do I do?
[22:31] <wabash> jagginess: trism: would be wierd, with so much free storage space now, if all config files actually contained the documentation within them as comments.
[22:32] <jagginess> trism, thanks i'll check it out
[22:33] <jugrnaut> Why does my alt-tab suddenly look like windows95 ?
[22:33] <jagginess> jugrnaut, you mean windows 3.1
[22:33] <jagginess> jugrnaut, !
[22:33] <jagginess> lol
[22:34] <jugrnaut> (Running Ubuntu 12.4 -- used to look beautiful)
[22:34] <Dr_willis> EyePulp,  im not sure why that file  for peopel kjeeps getting the wronge permissions/owner.. may be people run 'sudo nautilus'  or somthing
[22:35] <jugrnaut> jagginess: Yea. I don't know what happened. It just suddenly became ugly. Also some of the fancy windowskey+(...)  has stopped working :/ And tooltip bubbles are less beautiful. Wtf? :P
[22:35] <EyePulp> dunno.  glad to be connected though.  trying to set up a little xbmc =)
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> EyePulp  there's also #xbmc-linux
[22:38] <EyePulp> MonkeyDust:  well, I've got it installed and running, so I'm happy to avoid re-installing for the moment.
[22:38] <EyePulp> =)\
[22:38] <myersg> My computer is not booting to OS, it says: No boot filename received
[22:39] <bekks> myersg: Thats a message when trying to boot using PXE using a network connection.
[22:39] <bekks> myersg: It has nothing to do with a local boot.
[22:41] <rawsted> so someone over at dell thought it would be a good idea to reverse the functionality of F keys for this otherwise decent 11z that i have
[22:41] <rawsted> so now, if i hit an F-key without also holding down function, it does things such as hardware block my wireless, disable the touch pad, etc
[22:41] <DaemonicApathy> That's happening a lot, rawsted. There's an option under the program in Windows to reverse that.
[22:41] <myersg> ya..but my os isn't working..or loading to it
[22:42] <rawsted> DaemonicApathy: thank you. i thought i may have had to xev/xmodmap them myselves
[22:42] <rawsted> myself&
[22:42] <rawsted> *
[22:42] <myersg> not it is saying: a CMOS Checksum Error occurred.
[22:42] <DaemonicApathy> It's a lil tricky to find, but it shouldn't be too hard for a linuxer. ;-)
[22:43] <rawsted> DaemonicApathy: you say it's in windows?
[22:43] <rawsted> that's in settings somewhere?
[22:43] <DaemonicApathy> Right, there's a settings manager that handles hardware functions, provided by Dell.
[22:44] <rawsted> oh it's a dell thingy?
[22:44] <rawsted> it's in apt?
[22:44] <bekks> No.
[22:44] <myersg> and when I go into the bios, and select to boot from the harddrive it doesn't, goes strate to network boot
[22:44] <DaemonicApathy> No, it's run under Windows.
[22:44] <bekks> The dell settings manager is a windows application, which has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[22:44] <jagginess> myersg, /straight/
[22:44] <rawsted> aw dude...
[22:44] <AlexO> Hey, May I use chroot than apt-get to install pakage on the mounted partiton?
[22:45] <DaemonicApathy> You have my permission, AlexO.
[22:45] <bekks> myersg: So you have a broken BIOS.
[22:45] <genii-around> AlexO: Yes but you also have to mount some other stuff first too like proc and some others that I forget at the moment
[22:45] <rawsted> well that's alright, i need to revamp this thing anyhow, so i'll take a short excursion into windows in between
[22:45] <DaemonicApathy> myersg: Or you're exiting the BIOS without saving changes.
[22:46] <rawsted> thanks DaemonicApathy, fellas
[22:46] <AlexO> DaemonicApathy: Thanks for that, but I'm getting error like /var/cache/apt... like apt-get is trying to install those pakage on my "real" system
[22:46] <DaemonicApathy> You need to run those from within the chroot.
[22:46] <AlexO> I know :/
[22:47] <WeThePeople> :\
[22:47] <myersg> I don't know...
[22:47] <ldlework> If when I plug ethernet into my ethernet port, I never get an IP, but wireless works fine, what might be going on?
[22:47] <DaemonicApathy> Also, you don't want advice from me when it comes to chroots.
[22:47] <AlexO> DaemonicApathy: ok ^
[22:47] <AlexO> ^^"
[22:47] <jagginess> ldlework, that your ethernet port doesnt like you :)
[22:47] <myersg> Now, I disabled network boot, and it is saying: No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[22:47] <ldlework> jagginess: is there anyway I can determine for sure it is a physical problem?
[22:47] <DaemonicApathy> Last time I tried to delete a chroot, it took my home foder with it.
[22:47] <DaemonicApathy> *folder
[22:48] <jagginess> ldlework, the data-link, mii-tool eth0 may show if there's link speed
[22:48] <tfittsy> is there any possible setting in ubuntu that would cause my network speed to max out around 40-60K/s?  It's a hosted server and the other one I have gets around 1000K/s
[22:48] <myersg> It started this when I tryed to install PC-BSD
[22:48] <jagginess> tfittsy, no
[22:48] <tfittsy> I didn't think so
[22:49] <bekks> jagginess: Thats not true.
[22:49] <ldlework> jagginess: eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[22:49] <jagginess> tfittsy, try the ss tool, see if its a cable issue
[22:49] <genii-around> AlexO: Basically step 2 from here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html
[22:49] <bekks> Technically, you can use QoS to throttle bandwidth.
[22:49] <jagginess> yeah.. but he's not using it
[22:49] <colo993> idlework - if you do an ifconfig -a is your ethernet port running?
[22:50] <ldlework> colo993: I don't know what you mean by running, but eth0 shows up in that list yeah
[22:50] <ldlework> that's the place I check to see if I have an ip on eth0 and I never get one
[22:50] <jagginess> ldlework, when you ping things, you lose packets?
[22:50] <bekks> colo993: Without a working network connection he wouldnt have a bandwidth issue ;)
[22:50] <jagginess> ldlework, try tracert <your isp>
[22:50] <ldlework> jagginess: yeah no network activity ever
[22:50] <jagginess> ldlework, try traceroute <your isp>
[22:50] <colo993> in the list look for "running".  You should also see "running" on your wireless interface
[22:51] <jagginess> ldlework, you mean "ping" says what errors?
[22:51] <genii-around> IdleOne: If you don't have traceroute installed, use the default tracepath instead
[22:51] <colo993> "running" is an indication of connectivity.
[22:51] <bekks> colo993: "running" means nothing, it has to be "up".
[22:51] <ldlework> colo993: it doesn't say running
[22:51] <AlexO> genii-around: in fact I'm trying to do a chroot over sshfs, I still need to do these step?
[22:51] <colo993> up and running...:)
[22:51] <bekks> colo993: running is no indicator for a connection at all.
[22:51] <ldlework> but it does say up
[22:51] <ldlework> it says up, but not running
[22:51] <colo993> That would explain why you are not getting an IP.
[22:52] <ldlework> colo993: the key to the mystery (read: misery) is?
[22:52] <jagginess> AlertEye, makes no difference if you did a root login over ssh than doing a "chroot over sshfs" even if you can.
[22:52] <jagginess> Alex0, ^
[22:53] <colo993> If the interface is up it indicates it is seeing a link...however...you may have cabling or speed/duplex issues....
[22:53] <bekks> colo993: Wrong.
[22:53] <colo993> yes....
[22:53] <doxa> hello how can ı move bars in x? ıjust ınstalled ubuntu :)
[22:53] <bekks> "Up" indicates means that the interface is configured to be working, but does not indicate a link.
[22:54] <bekks> -means
[22:54] <jagginess> ldlework, what "error"? (for ping)
[22:54] <colo993> True...
[22:54] <colo993> Sorry for the confusion.
[22:54] <bekks> colo993: So neither "up" nor "running" indicate a link at all.
[22:54] <jagginess> ldlework, you mean you don't even get a dhcp ip address?
[22:54] <jagginess> nm
[22:55] <WeThePeople> doxa, what is x
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  X is the graphical interface
[22:55] <colo993> So the interface is "up"...but not running.  A physical layer issue....
[22:55] <WeThePeople> ahh xorg
[22:56] <colo993> cabling....speed...or duplex...
[22:56] <doxa> ı mean windows
[22:56] <doxa> any ıdea on the menu etc chance how can ı make ?
[22:56] <ldlework> hmm
[22:56] <ldlework> I seem to be connected via ethernet right now
[22:56] <ldlework> the hell... I've tried randomly for /months/
[22:56] <ldlework> I don't even.
[22:56] <ldlework> Thanks for being willing to help those who pipped up.
[22:56] <FloodBot1> ldlework: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <jagginess> WeThePeople, wayland is a new coming X, hopefully it'll be better than xorg and completely open source
[22:57] <genii-around> AlexO: If you can ssh into the machine you want to run the apt-get command on I'm not sure why you don't just run it that way. I'm not sure where this sshfs part is coming in.
[22:57] <bekks> jagginess: X is opensource too.
[22:57] <WeThePeople> jagginess, so thats what #wayland is for, sweet
[22:57] <bekks> jagginess: There is no single part in X which isnt open source.
[22:57] <jagginess> bekks, well there's proprietary drivers that work with X, hopefully wayland has no proprietary parts
[22:58] <jagginess> feels like i'm talking to no-waylanders
[22:58] <jagginess> lol
[22:58] <bekks> jagginess: 3rd party drivers never were part of X and hove NO impact on X being open source or not.
[22:59] <bekks> Ans wayland WILL be able to use 3rd party drivers for the sake of usability and not turning back the clock for 30 years.
[22:59] <AlexO> genii-around: in fact it's a virtual machine who can't reach internet but Host and Guest can ssh each other and I need to Install some pakage on my guest ...
[22:59] <jagginess> well xfree86 license changed.. it was a commercial avenue, hence why xorg forked
[23:00] <zerowaitstate> actually, making drivers top-secret is the definition of turning the clock back 30 years
[23:00] <bekks> jagginess: And it happened... decades ago? And xfree86 isnt used for how long exactly nowadays...? :)
[23:00] <jagginess> and xfree86 didnt come out 30 years ago either.
[23:00] <genii-around> AlexO: So why not scp the deb files over and use dpkg -i  ?
[23:01] <bekks> jagginess: So nowadays, the Xorg implementation is open source and has no closed source parts. And it allows the usage of 3rd party drivers. Sounds like a good thing, even on second glance.
[23:01] <genii-around> !offline
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> AlexO  rsync over ssh is perfectly do-able
[23:02] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I just got rid of all my sources on sources.list, I want to install kde. What sources should I have on my machine? 12.04 precise
[23:03] <AlexO> genii-around: I tried but the package needed have some dependances so when i'm doing a dpkg -i alien it does work cause it need a lot of other dependance
[23:03] <jagginess> alusion, kde sux :)
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> alusion plasma-desktop is in one of the sources you deleted
[23:03] <jagginess> AlexO, alien the package converter? that's not a very good tool.. it can cause damage and destruction
[23:03] <genii-around> AlexO: That's why I did !offline just above for you, it shows you how to grab all the stuff a package needs and install it on an offline box
[23:04] <alusion> I made a copy of the sources.list file, MonkeyDust : what is plasma-desktop?
[23:04] <AlexO> jagginess: it's for oracle db
[23:04] <jagginess> alusion, you're not using ubuntu. you'd just have to click a few things in the update-manager gui
[23:05] <jagginess> AlexO, oracle db is properly support on ubuntu?
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[23:05] <alusion> I need sources.
[23:05] <tsimpson> alusion: put your sources back
[23:05] <jagginess> AlexO, your better off using suse for oracle
[23:05] <alusion> alright.
[23:05] <doxa> thıs wıll take a lot to learn ubuntu :(
[23:06] <Dr_willis> doxa,  never noticed. ;p
[23:06] <genii-around> alusion: Kubuntu uses the same sources.list that regular Ubuntu does
[23:06]  * Dr_willis read the ubuntu manual and now is leet.
[23:06] <doxa> but ı lıke hard :)
[23:06] <Dr_willis> !manual
[23:06] <alusion> I had some strange sources such as Oneiric ones, I might as well ignore those yeah?
[23:07] <doxa> Dr_willis, can u help me on x ıf u have tıme atleast ı can confıgure ıt and have some energy :P
[23:07] <genii-around> alusion: Should probably comment out all the ones for former versions with a # at the beginning
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> alusion  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[23:07] <Dr_willis> doxa,  X auto configures for the most part these days.. give the channel info about your issue and see who knows what.
[23:07] <alusion> MonkeyDust,  Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> alusion  ok, then don't use oneiric sources
[23:08] <doxa> ı need to move menu bars from left to bottom and make ıt shortr etc
[23:08] <c4ptotc> hello i have a usb wireless device on my desktop and when i use crtl - alt - L the device goes to sleep                how can i keep this device on even when crtl - alt - L is locked ?        I have all the power management off in "Screensaver"         I am using ubuntu 12.04 precise
[23:08] <Dr_willis> doxa,  menu bars?
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> doxa  that's advanced configuration, start with the basics
[23:09] <genii-around> alusion: if command:  grep precise  /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list      shows a result then you can copy that one and use it for a template
[23:09] <c4ptotc> i try this but it doesnt work
[23:09] <c4ptotc> root@hpz800:~# iwconfig wlan power off
[23:09] <c4ptotc> Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
[23:09] <c4ptotc>     SET failed on device wlan ; No such device.
[23:09] <FloodBot1> c4ptotc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Dr_willis> Theres a setting to make the unity left side pannel smaller (smaller icons)
[23:09] <doxa> why basics
[23:09] <Dr_willis> doxa,  learn to crawl befor you walk.. and walk befor you run... then fly..
[23:09] <doxa> :/
[23:09] <genii-around> c4ptotc: wlan  needs a number like wlan0 or wlan1
[23:10] <MonkeyDust> doxa  because the basics is where you start, or did you read analytical philosophy in nursery school? ;)
[23:10] <c4ptotc> genii-around, yes sorry even trying wlan0 it doesnt work
[23:10] <c4ptotc> genii-around, root@hpz800:~# iwconfig wlan0 power off
[23:10] <c4ptotc> Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
[23:10] <c4ptotc>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[23:11] <genii-around> c4ptotc: Then it looks like your adapter doesn't support that command
[23:11] <MonkeyDust> doxa  that was a little joke, but you get the point
[23:12] <c4ptotc> genii-around, http://pastie.org/4812103
[23:13] <doxa> yea ı will work untill i see kernel panic and format and install format and install and then will find u and ask a question again :P
[23:13] <chovynz> lol doxa
[23:13] <doxa> :P
[23:14] <chovynz> ill have a look with you doxa
[23:14] <chovynz> 12.04?
[23:15] <chovynz> doxa are you there?
[23:15] <doxa> yes
[23:15] <doxa> first how can ı chage my language from turkısh to englısh so u can see better
[23:15] <genii-around> c4ptotc: If you try with on instead of off does it actually turn the power management on but still say not supported?
[23:15] <chovynz> doxa: 12.04? and do you want the unity panel at the base of the screen? (Don't worry about changing language. keep it simple.
[23:16] <doxa> ok :) yes ı want to do that
[23:16] <Dr_willis> unity panel cant go to the bottom.. so that parts done... ;)
[23:16] <chovynz> haha :)
[23:16] <Dr_willis> it is possible to change the size of the icons.. somewhere.. i forget where.
[23:17] <alusion> I have the choice for display managers between kdm and lightdm
[23:17] <alusion> what's the difference?
[23:17] <Dr_willis> alusion,  ones kde's default. other is ubuntu's default. its trivial to change them back and forth.
[23:17] <c4ptotc> genii-around, no it doesnt not turn it on either
[23:17] <Dr_willis> alusion,  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' lets you change them later if you want
[23:17] <alusion> What would you recommend Dr_willis ? :)
[23:17] <Dr_willis> alusion,  flip a coin...
[23:17] <c4ptotc> genii-around, but when i use crtl - alt - L it gets disconnected
[23:17] <c4ptotc> genii-around, to lock the screen
[23:18] <Dr_willis> alusion,  change them every other day if you want. it dosent really matter.
[23:18] <chovynz> doxa:  why do you want the unity panel at the base of the screen?
[23:19] <doxa> ı am a lıttle maniac and want ıt there so ı can fırst learn where ı am workıng on :P
[23:19] <chovynz> doxa: so in other words you want it there for no reason other than to feel comfortable with it?
[23:20] <alusion> What is ubuntu's default Dr_willis ? Is that lightdm?
[23:20] <doxa> no to learn my desktop soon gonna start php so menu ıs not ımportant but dıdnt used linux for a long long tıme
[23:20] <doxa> the names had even changed
[23:21] <doxa> by the way thx
[23:22] <chovynz> doxa I suggest you get used to the way this ubuntu looks, as it is a little different to the previous ubuntus. (Command line is still command line, but this unity is -probably- not the same as what you used to use.)
[23:22] <doxa> yea it seems ı have to use ıt lıke that 4 a tıme
[23:23] <chovynz> doxa: you dont need the unity menu down the base. it works well as it is on the side. do you REALLY need to change it?
[23:23] <doxa> ı wıll :)
[23:23] <chovynz> What is important to you doxa? is it the programming or how the unity menu looks?
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> doxa  you don't have to use unity, there's also xfce, lxde, fallback and more
[23:24] <phy1729> Can I make it so that people can run alsamixer without root?
[23:24] <doxa> ı need programıng for webdesıgn my job and ı need to move ıt for my love lınux
[23:24] <doxa> what are they
[23:24] <doxa> xfce etc
[23:24] <chovynz> other graphical interfaces doxa
[23:25] <doxa> hmm
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> doxa  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[23:26] <doxa> xfce is cool
[23:26] <santosh> My "foo.desktop" is not being shown when I am finding through unity search box. I have foo.desktop placed in ~/.local/share/applications/
[23:26] <chovynz> then use that instead of modifying unity :)
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> doxa  and this is fallback http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[23:26] <doxa> that ıs what ı have
[23:27] <alusion> I finished installing kde-plasma-desktop
[23:27] <alusion> Is there anything else that I need to install?
[23:27] <chovynz> um....*looks confused at MonkeyDust...and... quiets down. *
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> alusion  now logout, select kde and login
[23:27] <alusion> AWESOME!
[23:28] <doxa> MonkeyDust, how do ı ınstall the gnome 3 kde xfce thıngs ?
[23:28] <chovynz> doxa: ...which graphical interface do you have?
[23:28] <santosh> My "foo.desktop" is not being shown when I am finding through unity search box. I have foo.desktop placed in ~/.local/share/applications/
[23:28] <doxa> the same one u show last
[23:29] <Dr_willis> and be confused by kde's differance :)
[23:29] <chovynz> doxa then why are you asking unity bar (which you don't have) to be placed on the base?
[23:30] <doxa> ı have a bar on left dash homefırefox etc etc a bar on top wıth my connectıon tıme etc and ı hate all wanna do mıne lıke before ın kde ın mandrake ıt was easy left clıck do what u want
[23:31] <chovynz> then install xfce and stop using unity :)
[23:31] <myersg> NO! I don't want to stop using unity!
[23:32] <chovynz> you must be deunified!
[23:32] <viddy> stop not using xfce!
[23:32] <awc7371> where does openjdk install to?
[23:32] <awc7371> i need to point an app to my jdk path
[23:33] <Dr_willis> if you doxa  if you want kde.. then use kde...
[23:33] <genii-around> awc7371: update-alternatives --list java    should tell you
[23:34] <doxa> ı wıll try to ınstall ıt now
[23:34] <joan> OerHeks, can you explain why the command suggested by the doc doesn't work (I haven't tested your suggestion because I don't have access to the printer right now)? Which is the difference between it and yours?
[23:34] <awc7371> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
[23:34] <awc7371> its not working with spring source installation :(
[23:34] <doxa> now lets see what ı have done
[23:35] <^Mike> I've just bought a new external hard drive enclosure, put 2 new HDDs in, and connected it to my laptop via eSATA. The drives are not recognized - they don't appear in fdisk -l or blkid, for example. Nothing interesting in dmesg, but in syslog, I see: http://p.hashbang.ca/ZY What can I do to troubleshoot this further?
[23:36] <OerHeks> joan, it is the only way i know, see man lpr & man pr & man lp
[23:36] <awc7371> spring source the chosen directory does not contain the required product
[23:36] <awc7371> i can't find my jdk directory
[23:36] <awc7371> The application needs a JDK. A JRE will not be sufficient. Select the JDK path:
[23:37] <c4ptotc> genii-around, isnt there a way to disable power management altogether?
[23:37] <c4ptotc> awc7371, type "which openjdk"
[23:37] <c4ptotc> awc7371, or the name of the openjdk exec
[23:37] <awc7371> huh?
[23:37] <awc7371> im not sure
[23:37] <awc7371> ill try everything
[23:37] <awc7371> but im not sure what else to try
[23:37] <c4ptotc> awc7371, c4pt@hpz800:~$ which bash
[23:37] <c4ptotc> /bin/bash
[23:38] <c4ptotc> awc7371, if you know the name of the openjdk command you can find it like that
[23:38] <awc7371> it sees nothing in bin bash
[23:38] <joan> OerHeks, thanx, I just was wondering why the official doc proposed the other command, which outputs the error, it's strange, anyway, thank you very much
[23:41] <awc7371> I Had jre installed , not jdk
[23:41] <bizhanMona> Hi I have installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop on my system and I am reading the manual for pbuilder. To create pbuilder environment, need to run: sudo pbuilder create --distribution $(lsb_release-cs) ....  what is $(lsb_release-cs) for my installation? Thx
[23:42] <tsimpson> bizhanMona: exactly what's there, the $() syntax runs the command inside it
[23:42] <bizhanMona> tsimpson: thanks
[23:42] <ring2> awc7371, do you have default-jdk installed?
[23:43] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[23:43] <awc7371> ring2: no, installing
[23:43] <mrojas6996> hello! i need your help again
[23:43] <fellayaboy> hey openvpn use to work right off the bat when i had it as a ubuntu 10.04 server but i just installed a fresh copy of 12.04 and now i can connect but get no internet access i have everything installed and configured rightly...but nothing..i even tried adjusted iptables to soemthing that worked for an earlier version but no luck..i dont know where to start witht he problem but im guessing its a firewall or ip fowarding problem
[23:43] <WeThePeople> bizhanmona, type lsb_release --help in terminal
[23:44] <awc7371> ring2: i installed that, and openjdk-6-jdk
[23:44] <awc7371> still can't find the right dir
[23:45] <ring2> awc7371, which program are you trying to use? have you restarted the program after installing default-jdk?
[23:45] <awc7371> trying to install springsource
[23:45] <awc7371> im in /usr/lib/jvm/, seeing like 6 java directories
[23:46] <awc7371> trying each one's bin/ directory
[23:46] <mrojas6996> I have a lot of originals Audio CD's, and i try to play in my Lubuntu, but Lubuntu not read the tracks like .CDA, but as a .WMA tracks, and it is bad, because the original audio CD's have tracks on .CDA, not .WMA
[23:46] <awc7371> keep getting jdk not found
[23:47] <ring2> awc7371, have you restarted installing after installing default-jdk?
[23:47] <awc7371> k ill try
[23:47] <awc7371> brb
[23:48] <mrojas6996> and audacious not detect the audio CD when I insert in the CD Drive
[23:48] <Jordan_U> mrojas6996: I'm almost certain that you're mistaken in some way or another. WMA is the extention for Windows Media Audio, hardly the preffered audio format for Lubuntu.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> mrojas6996: Can you post a screenshot of what you're seeing?
[23:49] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | mrojas6996
[23:49] <mrojas6996> Ok! I show you an screenshot
[23:52] <mrojas6996> CD Insert: http://screencloud.net/v/m0VF
[23:53] <mrojas6996> Audacious not detect the CD http://screencloud.net/v/rGfy
[23:53] <mrojas6996> The .WMA archives in the Original CD audio: http://screencloud.net/v/969X
[23:55] <mrojas6996> the CD is original, windows detect the files like CDA, lubuntu detect the files like .WMA
[23:57] <mrojas6996> any idea from why I have this problem with the original audio discs?
[23:58] <mrojas6996> because this original CD is not the only that presents this problem
[23:58] <frey> Hello. Do you know of a tool to create a USB bootable copy of my current Ubuntu install? I have been trying to install remastersys, but for some reason their repository is not accessible.