dholbachgood morning07:04
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MohamedAlaa98Can please someone explain me the error in this build? : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/117498874/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.gtk-nodoka-engine_0.7.5-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:25
tumbleweedblackz: been a while10:25
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: looks like it was #including gtimer.h rather than glib.h10:26
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: I don't know but the build done succesfully on precise10:27
blackztumbleweed: heh yeah..10:27
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: https://launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/+archive/ppa/+build/380469210:28
MohamedAlaa98any ideas?10:29
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: something changed in gtk/glib?10:29
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: maybe the version in precise differs from quantal10:30
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MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: I don't know I came here for help10:31
tumbleweedI'd be very suprised if it didn't10:31
geserwe had this same change also in precise but it was backed out again because it caused to much FTBFS and redone for quantal again10:31
tumbleweedthere are quite a lot still to be fixed: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=glib-single-include&user=pkg-gnome-maintainers%40lists.alioth.debian.org10:32
MohamedAlaa98that means it's a bug in nodoka engine itself?10:33
geserglib upstream decided that only glib.h should be included and nodoka-engine didn't adapt to it yet10:34
MohamedAlaa98Ok, Thank you very much geser, tumbleweed :)10:35
Laneyit would be good to do some build log analysis from the rebuild test and file tagged bugs on this10:35
Laneyquite a worthwhile bug fixing initiative10:35
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AnAntHello, B2 should be released tonight ?12:53
xnoxAnAnt: tonight for you, tomorrow morning for some.13:20
xnox48 hours in a day after all =)13:20
highvoltagethere's something very wrong in the tone of the ubuntu coc 2 draft.13:23
highvoltageit almost feels advarsarial or passive aggressive somehow, I can't pin the right word for it13:23
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: I'm a beginer here :) I want start with package upgrading from upstream :) can you please give me a simple work to do? and a little advice :) thank you :)13:24
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: now is not a useful time to be doing that13:24
tumbleweedwe are releasing beta 2 today. We really aren't going around looking for things to update13:24
MohamedAlaa98Hmmm, what can I do now?13:25
tumbleweedhighvoltage: yeah, I'm feeling that attitude from sabdfl in general, atm13:25
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: if you're a beginner, the most useful thing for you to do is learn some packaging skills. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative13:26
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: if you want to do something useful: find a neglected buggy package, and see if we can do something about it13:27
highvoltagetumbleweed: I've seen that for a long time so I guess it's something that I've accepted, but I liked the overall simplicity and positiveness of the old CoC, it set a stern and positive tone. the new one seems like a big regression. I can see how someone new to the project can read that and think "hmm, maybe this isn't for me"13:27
tumbleweedhighvoltage: it certainly felt like something we should aspire to, in the past13:28
* tumbleweed isn't finding this draft particularly adversarial, though (but still reading it)13:30
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: Ok :) thanks a lot13:31
freeflyingdholbach: ping13:34
highvoltagetumbleweed: yeah that might have not been the right word, I'll have to think about it carefully before responsding13:40
tumbleweedhighvoltage: I suspect it's at least partially due to the shortening of teh CoC13:41
AnAntxnox: thanks13:42
highvoltagetumbleweed: ah the new one seemed quite longer to me13:46
tumbleweedhighvoltage: I haven't diffed it for this revision. But in general, v2 added the leadership stuff, and removed cruft13:48
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dholbachfreeflying, pong14:16
freeflyingdholbach: figured it out, thanks :)14:17
dholbachalright :)14:17
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geserMohamedAlaa98: do you intent to try to fix the gtk-nodoka-engine FTBFS? I see that you reported a bug about it15:00
MohamedAlaa98geser: I just reported the bug and let them handle it15:01
MohamedAlaa98How can I fix it?15:01
geserin short: grab the source package, fix it (the fix is trivial), create a debdiff, attach it to your bug, add it to the sponsoring queue15:03
Laneygeser: do you have a list?15:03
* micahg hopes we don't end up with >1k build failures since it's so late in the cycle15:04
MohamedAlaa98hmm ok I'll try to fix it15:04
geserLaney: no, I just go through the FTBFS page for the rebuild and check for easy (time-wise) fixes15:04
micahgcurrent projections based on src pkg #s would be around 40015:04
Laneyyeah, ideally we'd have had one earlier in the cycle15:05
micahgAIUI we should've had 2 already :(15:05
LaneyI remember discussing it in a session but not what was decided15:05
geserI try to get the quick fixes done first (better time usage) and focus on the time-consuming later (if I have available time left)15:05
micahgDIF or FF were the test points for the first round mention, neither happened15:06
ogra_micahg, did that planning take a DC move into account ?15:06
micahgogra_: DIF would've been fine as it was long before the DC move15:06
ogra_oh, yeah15:07
geserMohamedAlaa98: if you have any questions or get stuck, just ask here15:07
micahgbut it seems like a lot of the failures are gcc 4.7 and glib includes15:07
micahgat least the ones I've peeked at15:07
Laneythat was an explicit reason for putting the glib include error back early in the cycle15:07
Laneywe'd find them early and then be able to fix them, since the fix is so trivial15:08
micahgright, so that they would be fixed, but without a test rebuild they were blissfully forgotten about15:08
Laneysadly do15:08
LaneyI suppose we could revert that and try again for R :-/15:09
geserdo you think we will have a better success then?15:10
Laneydepends if the effort is invested15:10
Laneywe can leave it for a little while yet, see how we do now15:10
ogra_aarch64 might land in R, that would require a full archive rebuild in any case15:11
geserwe would need an early test rebuild done to catch those but it's usually not done with the archive in flux due to auto-syncs (enough FTBFS from it)15:11
ogra_(no idea about the timeline here, just guessing)15:12
cjwatsonI've got a month of +1 maintenance yet to use to attack these :)15:12
* micahg hopefully has a month of +1 as well15:13
cjwatsonogra_: It wouldn't require rebuilding anything on existing architectures, surely15:13
cjwatsonmicahg: Oh good15:13
geseris there a quick switch to not have dch put UNRELEASED into the changelog or to have pass -D quantal everytime?15:13
ogra_cjwatson, well, but it would make sense to do it on all arches if we do it for aarch64 anyway15:13
cjwatsonI vaguely remember that being controlled by DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC15:14
cjwatsonogra_: We never have before for new ports15:14
cjwatsonAnd a full rebuild is a big mirror hit15:14
ogra_just saying its an opportunity to do it in one go15:14
* Laney never remembers what the release heuristics do15:14
geserogra_: do you volunteer to do a rebuild upload of every package for it?15:15
cjwatsonThat isn't an opportunity, it's a risk :-)15:15
obounaimPlease I need sponsoring here can any body review my merge proposal?15:50
Laneyobounaim: is it really urgent?15:52
Laneyif not, as long as it appears in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html it'll get looked at :-)15:52
* Laney blinks at the swathe of misc:Depends branches there15:53
obounaimLaney, no it is not urgent but It has a while in there15:54
Laneyah, well I see them. Somebody will hopefully get to them soon15:55
obounaimLaney, yes hopefully15:55
Laneyhmm, I should get on the pilot schedule really15:56
Laneydholbach: ^ ;-)15:56
dholbachlaney: with pleasure15:56
TheLordOfTimehow can i force apt-get to install dependencies?15:56
xnoxLaney: yeah. But they are good to teach about packaging. E.g. mispelled (LP: #) or forgotten patches (direct modifications) or not updated maintainer field.15:56
TheLordOfTimeits not installing the openjdk-6-jre dependencies, so...15:56
Laneyxnox: I understand the idea.15:56
TheLordOfTimeis there an argument i can provide to *force* dependency resolution?15:57
dholbachlaney: added yourself - feel free to move it to some other day if that suits you better15:59
Laneythanking you16:00
micahgthelordOfTime: umm, there's -f, but that won't work if there's a real problem16:01
TheLordOfTimemicahg:  lemme pastebin the errors, perhaps there's something i'm missing...16:01
TheLordOfTimeor something dreadfully wrong with Precise16:02
TheLordOfTimemicahg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1230639/  <-- the errors i'm getting16:03
TheLordOfTimethere's also a pinning error according to apt, but i can't find it  :/16:03
TheLordOfTimeand it always shows up.16:04
micahgapt-cache policy | grep ^0 ?16:04
TheLordOfTimeoh i see where it is16:05
TheLordOfTimeone moment16:05
micahgthelordOfTime: you can use -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true to see what it causing the issue16:05
TheLordOfTimemicahg:  well, the apt pinning issue is unknown, its still showing up, and the grepped line from your command is not useful, just says this: W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin16:07
micahgwell, you can look over apt-cache policy to see if anything is unusua;16:08
TheLordOfTimeand now i'm getting update manager crashes because the "package system is broken"16:09
TheLordOfTimewhat hell is happening here...?16:09
TheLordOfTimeoh wait a sec16:11
MohamedAlaa98Hello guys :) I've a notice16:13
MohamedAlaa98in this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate16:13
TheLordOfTimewell, that was... different...16:13
TheLordOfTimemicahg:  apparently someone tried to install a package here that broke everything16:14
TheLordOfTimeand apt was whining because on this system, there were apt pins for each repo (main, -updates, -security, etc.)16:14
MohamedAlaa98you forgot to add launchpad building part :)16:14
TheLordOfTimeremoving the apt pinning prefs fixed that issue, and purging the attempted-to-install package fixed that issue16:14
TheLordOfTimetime for sourcebuilds :P16:15
MohamedAlaa98sorry for interrupting16:17
TheLordOfTimeno problem, was just mostly me griping about apt not working and something related to apt not resolving dependencies16:18
TheLordOfTimecarry on, dude :)16:18
MohamedAlaa98did you realize what i said?16:20
* dholbach hugs laney16:27
* dholbach hugs laney16:27
* dholbach hugs laney16:27
* dholbach hugs laney16:27
* dholbach hugs laney16:27
* MohamedAlaa98 hugs laney too :)16:28
* Laney hugs dholbach 16:29
ogra_was that a hug for every donated dollar ?16:31
* MohamedAlaa98 is awaiting for anyone to respond him16:31
Laneyis it just me that can't boot recent dailies in vbox?16:35
Laney5 minutes to get a grub selection, 5 more minutes to see plymouth, 5 minutes later that goes away to show me the console with loads of service stopping, then it goes black16:35
Laney12.04.1 works well16:41
MohamedAlaa98sorry for disconnecting16:56
MohamedAlaa98I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included any ideas?16:58
MohamedAlaa98sorrfor disconnecting17:02
MohamedAlaa98*sorry for17:02
MohamedAlaa98any ideas?17:02
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: you haven't said what the problem is17:03
MohamedAlaa98oh, connection problems17:04
MohamedAlaa98I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included what should I do?17:04
tumbleweedyou haven't said what you don't understand17:04
tumbleweedalso, please don't highlite me if you are just looking for someone to ansewr a question17:04
MohamedAlaa98ok, sorry17:04
MohamedAlaa98I can't understand how to get fix included17:05
mitya57MohamedAlaa98: that section is mostly for submitting the patch to debian/upstream17:05
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: what did you fix?17:05
mitya57MohamedAlaa98: Debian has already a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/66554917:05
ubottuDebian bug 665549 in src:gtk-nodoka-engine "gtk-nodoka-engine: Including individual glib headers no longer supported" [Important,Open]17:06
mitya57you can submit the patch there17:06
MohamedAlaa98homepage missing staff17:06
mitya57ah, sorry, you are talking about another thing17:06
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: the missing homepage bugs listed on that wiki page are ubuntu-only packages17:06
MohamedAlaa98mitya57 np :)17:06
tumbleweedthey aren't in debian17:06
MohamedAlaa98yes i know :)17:06
tumbleweedso, follow the link to the ubuntu sponsoring process17:07
MohamedAlaa98oops there's a added homepage in quantal https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/z3c.pt17:10
MohamedAlaa98should I push my fix?17:12
tumbleweedif it's already done, I don't see any point17:12
MohamedAlaa98:( but you haven't marked it fixed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative17:13
tumbleweedit's not *me* who hasn't marked it there :)17:13
tumbleweedobounaim: ^^17:13
* MohamedAlaa98 want's to cry :(17:14
tumbleweedwell, now you know what to do :)17:15
obounaimMohamedAlaa98, refresh your browser.17:17
MohamedAlaa98_what do you mean?17:17
obounaimMohamedAlaa98, I have marked them as fix proposed17:18
MohamedAlaa98obounaim: can you please repost what you said?17:20
MohamedAlaa98obounaim: sorry network problems.17:21
obounaimMohamedAlaa98, Concerning the bugs listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative that I have fixed they are now marked as fix proposed17:22
MohamedAlaa98obounaim: ok :)17:22
MohamedAlaa98obounaim: it's my mistake I should review all sections of a package before doing something17:23
tumbleweedMohamedAlaa98: I think it's just bad luck (and something that will happen when everyone works from the top of a list)17:39
MohamedAlaa98tumbleweed: obounaim hasn't let anythng in this page t fix18:05
MohamedAlaa98I mean No homepage field bugs18:05
MohamedAlaa98where I can find more?18:06
MohamedAlaa98*can i18:06
jtaylorMohamedAlaa98: you can check this list for useful syncs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/universe.html#outdatedinB18:06
MohamedAlaa98jtaylor: ok, thanks18:07
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