| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
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| blackz | hi! | 10:25 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | Can please someone explain me the error in this build? : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/117498874/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.gtk-nodoka-engine_0.7.5-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:25 |
| tumbleweed | blackz: been a while | 10:25 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: looks like it was #including gtimer.h rather than glib.h | 10:26 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: I don't know but the build done succesfully on precise | 10:27 |
| blackz | tumbleweed: heh yeah.. | 10:27 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: https://launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/+archive/ppa/+build/3804692 | 10:28 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | any ideas? | 10:29 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: something changed in gtk/glib? | 10:29 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: maybe the version in precise differs from quantal | 10:30 |
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| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: I don't know I came here for help | 10:31 |
| tumbleweed | I'd be very suprised if it didn't | 10:31 |
| geser | we had this same change also in precise but it was backed out again because it caused to much FTBFS and redone for quantal again | 10:31 |
| tumbleweed | there are quite a lot still to be fixed: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=glib-single-include&user=pkg-gnome-maintainers%40lists.alioth.debian.org | 10:32 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | that means it's a bug in nodoka engine itself? | 10:33 |
| geser | yes | 10:33 |
| geser | glib upstream decided that only glib.h should be included and nodoka-engine didn't adapt to it yet | 10:34 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | Ok, Thank you very much geser, tumbleweed :) | 10:35 |
| Laney | it would be good to do some build log analysis from the rebuild test and file tagged bugs on this | 10:35 |
| Laney | quite a worthwhile bug fixing initiative | 10:35 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, B2 should be released tonight ? | 12:53 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 13:04 |
| xnox | AnAnt: tonight for you, tomorrow morning for some. | 13:20 |
| xnox | 48 hours in a day after all =) | 13:20 |
| highvoltage | there's something very wrong in the tone of the ubuntu coc 2 draft. | 13:23 |
| highvoltage | it almost feels advarsarial or passive aggressive somehow, I can't pin the right word for it | 13:23 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: I'm a beginer here :) I want start with package upgrading from upstream :) can you please give me a simple work to do? and a little advice :) thank you :) | 13:24 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: now is not a useful time to be doing that | 13:24 |
| tumbleweed | we are releasing beta 2 today. We really aren't going around looking for things to update | 13:24 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | Hmmm, what can I do now? | 13:25 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: yeah, I'm feeling that attitude from sabdfl in general, atm | 13:25 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: if you're a beginner, the most useful thing for you to do is learn some packaging skills. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative | 13:26 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: if you want to do something useful: find a neglected buggy package, and see if we can do something about it | 13:27 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: I've seen that for a long time so I guess it's something that I've accepted, but I liked the overall simplicity and positiveness of the old CoC, it set a stern and positive tone. the new one seems like a big regression. I can see how someone new to the project can read that and think "hmm, maybe this isn't for me" | 13:27 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: it certainly felt like something we should aspire to, in the past | 13:28 |
| * tumbleweed isn't finding this draft particularly adversarial, though (but still reading it) | 13:30 | |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: Ok :) thanks a lot | 13:31 |
| freeflying | dholbach: ping | 13:34 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: yeah that might have not been the right word, I'll have to think about it carefully before responsding | 13:40 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: I suspect it's at least partially due to the shortening of teh CoC | 13:41 |
| AnAnt | xnox: thanks | 13:42 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: ah the new one seemed quite longer to me | 13:46 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: I haven't diffed it for this revision. But in general, v2 added the leadership stuff, and removed cruft | 13:48 |
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| dholbach | freeflying, pong | 14:16 |
| freeflying | dholbach: figured it out, thanks :) | 14:17 |
| dholbach | alright :) | 14:17 |
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| geser | MohamedAlaa98: do you intent to try to fix the gtk-nodoka-engine FTBFS? I see that you reported a bug about it | 15:00 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | geser: I just reported the bug and let them handle it | 15:01 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | How can I fix it? | 15:01 |
| geser | in short: grab the source package, fix it (the fix is trivial), create a debdiff, attach it to your bug, add it to the sponsoring queue | 15:03 |
| Laney | geser: do you have a list? | 15:03 |
| * micahg hopes we don't end up with >1k build failures since it's so late in the cycle | 15:04 | |
| MohamedAlaa98 | hmm ok I'll try to fix it | 15:04 |
| geser | Laney: no, I just go through the FTBFS page for the rebuild and check for easy (time-wise) fixes | 15:04 |
| Laney | ok | 15:04 |
| micahg | current projections based on src pkg #s would be around 400 | 15:04 |
| Laney | yeah, ideally we'd have had one earlier in the cycle | 15:05 |
| Laney | DIF? | 15:05 |
| micahg | AIUI we should've had 2 already :( | 15:05 |
| Laney | I remember discussing it in a session but not what was decided | 15:05 |
| geser | I try to get the quick fixes done first (better time usage) and focus on the time-consuming later (if I have available time left) | 15:05 |
| micahg | DIF or FF were the test points for the first round mention, neither happened | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | micahg, did that planning take a DC move into account ? | 15:06 |
| micahg | ogra_: DIF would've been fine as it was long before the DC move | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | oh, yeah | 15:07 |
| geser | MohamedAlaa98: if you have any questions or get stuck, just ask here | 15:07 |
| micahg | but it seems like a lot of the failures are gcc 4.7 and glib includes | 15:07 |
| micahg | at least the ones I've peeked at | 15:07 |
| Laney | that was an explicit reason for putting the glib include error back early in the cycle | 15:07 |
| Laney | we'd find them early and then be able to fix them, since the fix is so trivial | 15:08 |
| micahg | right, so that they would be fixed, but without a test rebuild they were blissfully forgotten about | 15:08 |
| Laney | sadly do | 15:08 |
| Laney | so | 15:08 |
| Laney | I suppose we could revert that and try again for R :-/ | 15:09 |
| geser | do you think we will have a better success then? | 15:10 |
| Laney | depends if the effort is invested | 15:10 |
| Laney | we can leave it for a little while yet, see how we do now | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | aarch64 might land in R, that would require a full archive rebuild in any case | 15:11 |
| geser | we would need an early test rebuild done to catch those but it's usually not done with the archive in flux due to auto-syncs (enough FTBFS from it) | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | (no idea about the timeline here, just guessing) | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | I've got a month of +1 maintenance yet to use to attack these :) | 15:12 |
| * micahg hopefully has a month of +1 as well | 15:13 | |
| cjwatson | ogra_: It wouldn't require rebuilding anything on existing architectures, surely | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | micahg: Oh good | 15:13 |
| geser | is there a quick switch to not have dch put UNRELEASED into the changelog or to have pass -D quantal everytime? | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, well, but it would make sense to do it on all arches if we do it for aarch64 anyway | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | I vaguely remember that being controlled by DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: We never have before for new ports | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | And a full rebuild is a big mirror hit | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | just saying its an opportunity to do it in one go | 15:14 |
| * Laney never remembers what the release heuristics do | 15:14 | |
| geser | ogra_: do you volunteer to do a rebuild upload of every package for it? | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | That isn't an opportunity, it's a risk :-) | 15:15 |
| obounaim | Please I need sponsoring here can any body review my merge proposal? | 15:50 |
| Laney | obounaim: is it really urgent? | 15:52 |
| Laney | if not, as long as it appears in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html it'll get looked at :-) | 15:52 |
| * Laney blinks at the swathe of misc:Depends branches there | 15:53 | |
| obounaim | Laney, no it is not urgent but It has a while in there | 15:54 |
| Laney | ah, well I see them. Somebody will hopefully get to them soon | 15:55 |
| obounaim | Laney, yes hopefully | 15:55 |
| Laney | hmm, I should get on the pilot schedule really | 15:56 |
| Laney | dholbach: ^ ;-) | 15:56 |
| dholbach | laney: with pleasure | 15:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | how can i force apt-get to install dependencies? | 15:56 |
| xnox | Laney: yeah. But they are good to teach about packaging. E.g. mispelled (LP: #) or forgotten patches (direct modifications) or not updated maintainer field. | 15:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | its not installing the openjdk-6-jre dependencies, so... | 15:56 |
| Laney | xnox: I understand the idea. | 15:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | is there an argument i can provide to *force* dependency resolution? | 15:57 |
| dholbach | laney: added yourself - feel free to move it to some other day if that suits you better | 15:59 |
| Laney | thanking you | 16:00 |
| micahg | thelordOfTime: umm, there's -f, but that won't work if there's a real problem | 16:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: lemme pastebin the errors, perhaps there's something i'm missing... | 16:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | or something dreadfully wrong with Precise | 16:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1230639/ <-- the errors i'm getting | 16:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | there's also a pinning error according to apt, but i can't find it :/ | 16:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | and it always shows up. | 16:04 |
| micahg | apt-cache policy | grep ^0 ? | 16:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | oh i see where it is | 16:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | one moment | 16:05 |
| micahg | thelordOfTime: you can use -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true to see what it causing the issue | 16:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: well, the apt pinning issue is unknown, its still showing up, and the grepped line from your command is not useful, just says this: W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin | 16:07 |
| micahg | well, you can look over apt-cache policy to see if anything is unusua; | 16:08 |
| TheLordOfTime | and now i'm getting update manager crashes because the "package system is broken" | 16:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | what hell is happening here...? | 16:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... | 16:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | oh wait a sec | 16:11 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | Hello guys :) I've a notice | 16:13 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | in this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate | 16:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | well, that was... different... | 16:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: apparently someone tried to install a package here that broke everything | 16:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | and apt was whining because on this system, there were apt pins for each repo (main, -updates, -security, etc.) | 16:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | *shrugs* | 16:14 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | you forgot to add launchpad building part :) | 16:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | removing the apt pinning prefs fixed that issue, and purging the attempted-to-install package fixed that issue | 16:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | time for sourcebuilds :P | 16:15 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | sorry for interrupting | 16:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | no problem, was just mostly me griping about apt not working and something related to apt not resolving dependencies | 16:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | carry on, dude :) | 16:18 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | :D | 16:19 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | did you realize what i said? | 16:20 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | hello? | 16:26 |
| * dholbach hugs laney | 16:27 | |
| * dholbach hugs laney | 16:27 | |
| * dholbach hugs laney | 16:27 | |
| * dholbach hugs laney | 16:27 | |
| * dholbach hugs laney | 16:27 | |
| * MohamedAlaa98 hugs laney too :) | 16:28 | |
| Laney | :-) | 16:29 |
| * Laney hugs dholbach | 16:29 | |
| ogra_ | was that a hug for every donated dollar ? | 16:31 |
| * MohamedAlaa98 is awaiting for anyone to respond him | 16:31 | |
| Laney | is it just me that can't boot recent dailies in vbox? | 16:35 |
| Laney | 5 minutes to get a grub selection, 5 more minutes to see plymouth, 5 minutes later that goes away to show me the console with loads of service stopping, then it goes black | 16:35 |
| Laney | 12.04.1 works well | 16:41 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | sorry for disconnecting | 16:56 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included any ideas? | 16:58 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed | 16:59 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | sorrfor disconnecting | 17:02 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | *sorry for | 17:02 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | any ideas? | 17:02 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: you haven't said what the problem is | 17:03 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | oh, connection problems | 17:04 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included what should I do? | 17:04 |
| tumbleweed | you haven't said what you don't understand | 17:04 |
| tumbleweed | also, please don't highlite me if you are just looking for someone to ansewr a question | 17:04 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | ok, sorry | 17:04 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | I can't understand how to get fix included | 17:05 |
| mitya57 | MohamedAlaa98: that section is mostly for submitting the patch to debian/upstream | 17:05 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: what did you fix? | 17:05 |
| mitya57 | MohamedAlaa98: Debian has already a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/665549 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 665549 in src:gtk-nodoka-engine "gtk-nodoka-engine: Including individual glib headers no longer supported" [Important,Open] | 17:06 |
| mitya57 | you can submit the patch there | 17:06 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | homepage missing staff | 17:06 |
| mitya57 | ah, sorry, you are talking about another thing | 17:06 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: the missing homepage bugs listed on that wiki page are ubuntu-only packages | 17:06 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | mitya57 np :) | 17:06 |
| tumbleweed | they aren't in debian | 17:06 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | yes i know :) | 17:06 |
| tumbleweed | so, follow the link to the ubuntu sponsoring process | 17:07 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | okay | 17:07 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | oops there's a added homepage in quantal https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/z3c.pt | 17:10 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | should I push my fix? | 17:12 |
| tumbleweed | if it's already done, I don't see any point | 17:12 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | :( but you haven't marked it fixed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative | 17:13 |
| tumbleweed | it's not *me* who hasn't marked it there :) | 17:13 |
| tumbleweed | obounaim: ^^ | 17:13 |
| * MohamedAlaa98 want's to cry :( | 17:14 | |
| tumbleweed | well, now you know what to do :) | 17:15 |
| obounaim | MohamedAlaa98, refresh your browser. | 17:17 |
| MohamedAlaa98_ | browser? | 17:17 |
| MohamedAlaa98_ | what do you mean? | 17:17 |
| obounaim | MohamedAlaa98, I have marked them as fix proposed | 17:18 |
| obounaim | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative | 17:18 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | obounaim: can you please repost what you said? | 17:20 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | obounaim: sorry network problems. | 17:21 |
| obounaim | MohamedAlaa98, Concerning the bugs listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative that I have fixed they are now marked as fix proposed | 17:22 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | obounaim: ok :) | 17:22 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | obounaim: it's my mistake I should review all sections of a package before doing something | 17:23 |
| tumbleweed | MohamedAlaa98: I think it's just bad luck (and something that will happen when everyone works from the top of a list) | 17:39 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | :D | 17:40 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | tumbleweed: obounaim hasn't let anythng in this page t fix | 18:05 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | *to | 18:05 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | I mean No homepage field bugs | 18:05 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | where I can find more? | 18:06 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | *can i | 18:06 |
| jtaylor | MohamedAlaa98: you can check this list for useful syncs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/universe.html#outdatedinB | 18:06 |
| MohamedAlaa98 | jtaylor: ok, thanks | 18:07 |
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