| x409 | Did mythbuntu got all the feature of mythtv, I need to record 4 channel 24h/24 7day a week on my main server, and I have 6 Windows client over the network who need to acces to the video | 00:10 |
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| x409 | did it fits my need ? | 00:11 |
| tgm4883 | x409, these 4 channels, are they security cameras? | 00:11 |
| tgm4883 | (or other types of cameras) | 00:11 |
| x409 | no, tv | 00:11 |
| tgm4883 | x409, I suppose you could use it for that, although I'm not 100% sure the point that you are trying to do | 00:12 |
| tgm4883 | there may be a much simpiler way to do it | 00:12 |
| tgm4883 | maybe VLC+streaming? | 00:12 |
| x409 | this is for radio station | 00:13 |
| x409 | I need to record tv channel | 00:13 |
| x409 | and the day after, they need to extract audio from the video to be play on air | 00:13 |
| x409 | but, they need the video to know where is the good quote | 00:13 |
| tgm4883 | why do you need to record 4 streams for 24 hours | 00:14 |
| x409 | to record all the local news channel | 00:14 |
| x409 | I will buy 4 tv tuner, this is not a problem, like Hauppauge PVR-150 | 00:15 |
| x409 | and i don't need a good resolution, something like 340x340 is OK | 00:16 |
| x409 | the only thing i need is a full audio, no skipping frame | 00:16 |
| tgm4883 | x409, you have 1 radio station? | 00:18 |
| x409 | yes, in fact 2 | 00:18 |
| tgm4883 | are you just putting the raw audio feed onto the radio? | 00:19 |
| x409 | the client listend the video, and record the audio with Adobe Audition and put it in the radio system | 00:20 |
| tgm4883 | x409, IMO, this sounds convoluted. But I suppose you could create 4 manual schedules to record 24 hours of stream and run it each day | 00:22 |
| dmfrey | tgm4883, did you get to try out the latest version of the app? | 00:23 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, I tried it a bit, but I haven't tested it too much | 00:24 |
| dmfrey | much faster interface | 00:24 |
| x409 | tgm4883, ok | 00:24 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC, there are some things that still don't work too well until everything gets loaded | 00:24 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, IIRC, going into recorded programs, works, but if you try to drill down you have to wait a bunch | 00:24 |
| x409 | tgm4883, so there is no build in option in mythtv to record one channel 24 hours by day, 7 day a week ? | 00:25 |
| dmfrey | ok | 00:25 |
| dmfrey | but it at least tells you it is downloading and to try back in a bit, right? | 00:25 |
| tgm4883 | x409, it would be a manual schedule. But again, that isn't a very good use for a DVR | 00:25 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, yea | 00:25 |
| dmfrey | ok, good | 00:26 |
| dmfrey | the thing people were complaining about was that you couldn't do anything while all the data was downloading | 00:26 |
| tgm4883 | yea, which is bad | 00:26 |
| tgm4883 | now you can at least do some things, but I'm wondering if there isn't a better way to do that. Honestly I haven't looked at the code though (and haven't written java since college) | 00:27 |
| dmfrey | it used to download, parse and load the db | 00:27 |
| tgm4883 | Providing a fast enough backend is present, I don't see why this can't fly | 00:27 |
| dmfrey | now it just downloads and stores the json in the external storage cache | 00:28 |
| tgm4883 | how much data are we exactly downloading on startup? | 00:28 |
| dmfrey | then loads the json into an internal cache for use while using the screens | 00:28 |
| dmfrey | they load into the cache really fast, then subsequent hits in the cache are almost instantaneous | 00:29 |
| dmfrey | right now, it loads everything | 00:29 |
| dmfrey | as the day changes, it will load the next days program guide | 00:29 |
| dmfrey | the upcoming only gets updated once a day, based on the last modified timestamp of the json file in the fs | 00:30 |
| dmfrey | the recorded programs gets updated after the last modified date on the recorded json is an hour old | 00:30 |
| dmfrey | you can always refresh manually the upcoming and recorded | 00:31 |
| dmfrey | it was asked to let you set the number of days of program guide you want to download | 00:31 |
| dmfrey | so will probably add that to the preferences | 00:31 |
| tgm4883 | rather than download everything, would it be terrible to request it when needed? | 00:32 |
| tgm4883 | well, a smaller amount | 00:32 |
| dmfrey | but, i agree, a fast enough backend should produce the data fast, but, what I have been finding, is that it takes a bit longer time to generate the data and transfer it over the wire | 00:33 |
| dmfrey | could do that, or just move the loading of the program guide to program guide screen, the recorded to the recording screen, etc. | 00:33 |
| dmfrey | also limit the days to download | 00:33 |
| dmfrey | my thought behind this way was to make it as much like a frontend as possible | 00:34 |
| dmfrey | once .26 is out, will be able to take advantage of etag to check if the network resource changed or not | 00:35 |
| dmfrey | as well as gzip compression | 00:35 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, IMO, it might be better to only grab X hours of the guide. Keep that as minimal as possible. And work with upstream to flesh out the API | 00:35 |
| tgm4883 | so when searching upcoming recordings or for a new schedule, it queries the backend for just that data | 00:36 |
| dmfrey | i will have to look into it | 00:38 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, ok, just installed it on my wife's S3 | 00:39 |
| dmfrey | luckily the recorded and upcoming are really quick | 00:39 |
| dmfrey | cool, not sure if I heard of anyone running it on one of them | 00:39 |
| tgm4883 | I'm in that state where I can't see any of my episodes | 00:40 |
| tgm4883 | I can see the shows, but can't drill down | 00:40 |
| tgm4883 | oh, and it hangs while it downloads banners | 00:40 |
| dmfrey | yeah, shouldn't take too long, right? | 00:40 |
| tgm4883 | well that banner part doesn't. maybe 10 seconds | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | which is kinda a long time | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | but it's a bit weird to wait this long for episode info | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | I also have an enhancement request that will really help out first installs | 00:42 |
| tgm4883 | you want that in a bug report or here? | 00:42 |
| tgm4883 | oh there's some oddity too | 00:43 |
| dmfrey | you can tell me about it, but it should go on github | 00:43 |
| dmfrey | i can add it | 00:43 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 00:43 |
| tgm4883 | if I click on Home, and I don't have a home configured (or even if it can't reach it) it should automatically kick off a scan and add a found backend | 00:44 |
| dmfrey | i think with the banners, I will kick off a download and the next time you come into it display them then | 00:44 |
| dmfrey | that should speed up the interface | 00:44 |
| dmfrey | oh, that's a good idea | 00:44 |
| tgm4883 | so while this "please try again later" thing is progress. I'm still seeing it almost 10 minutes after opening this | 00:45 |
| tgm4883 | with no indication that anything is actually happening | 00:46 |
| tgm4883 | banners in landscape mode look funny because they don't span the width of the screen | 00:47 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, so if you plan on keeping the downloading of everything, you need some sort of progress bar | 00:48 |
| dmfrey | ok | 00:48 |
| tgm4883 | at this point, I have no idea whats going on and might have uninstalled this by now | 00:49 |
| tgm4883 | it's kinda unresponsive, but I'll wait until it's finished loading everything to see if that is causing it | 00:49 |
| dmfrey | i wonder if it just didn't update local cache | 00:51 |
| dmfrey | it is probably done with recordings and upcoming | 00:51 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, oh, it at least tells me that it was retreiving recording rules | 00:51 |
| tgm4883 | if you can grab when the guide data ends, then you should make it so I can't progress past that point | 00:53 |
| tgm4883 | i think it tells me that it's loading right nwo | 00:54 |
| tgm4883 | also, I can't swipe left past midnight | 00:54 |
| dmfrey | i was thinking about that...that ViewPager would have 288 fragments in it then, if you download all 12 days of data available to the guide | 00:55 |
| tgm4883 | either way, so I can't swipe to the next/previious day | 00:55 |
| dmfrey | there are buttons for next and previous day at the top of each page | 00:56 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, yea I know there are buttons, but it's intuitive for me to just swipe to the right if it's 11:30PM | 00:56 |
| tgm4883 | swipe to the right should just load next day | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | *If it would take me to 12:00 AM | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | not always :) | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | 20 minutes later, still can't watch recordings :/ | 00:57 |
| dmfrey | can you look int /mnt/sdcard/Android/org.mytht/cache/programs on the fs? | 00:58 |
| tgm4883 | hmm, maybe | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | is there a minimal files I can get to just use adb to get there? | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | otherwise I'll need to download something on the phone | 00:59 |
| dmfrey | astro should be able to do it | 01:00 |
| tgm4883 | wait, it just loaded it | 01:01 |
| dmfrey | otherwise, you could do just the android sdk | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | it might be because I hit the refresh button a few minutes ago | 01:01 |
| dmfrey | don't need eclipse to do that, although the make a view that makes it easy | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | the two folders in the cache dir are program and programGuide | 01:05 |
| dmfrey | yes | 01:06 |
| dmfrey | oops, i said programs above | 01:07 |
| tgm4883 | there is a bunch of things in the program folder | 01:08 |
| dmfrey | ok, so the cache isn't updating, so the files downloaded, but the cache wasn't notified | 01:09 |
| tgm4883 | well it is now I think | 01:09 |
| tgm4883 | I believe I have full functionality in the app now | 01:10 |
| tgm4883 | although it's still sluggish | 01:10 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, also, it would be nice if I could do something with the recordings other than watch them | 01:12 |
| tgm4883 | such as delete/get info, etc | 01:12 |
| dmfrey | we are getting there | 01:12 |
| dmfrey | :) | 01:12 |
| dmfrey | i actually want, when you click on it, to go to a details view, then you can play, delete, etc. | 01:13 |
| dmfrey | see all the artwork | 01:13 |
| dmfrey | that kind of stuff | 01:13 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, are you keeping aspect ratio on the banners? | 01:14 |
| tgm4883 | IDK if it's just me, but they look odd on my nexus 7 | 01:14 |
| dmfrey | the latest code has that fixed | 01:15 |
| dmfrey | they were too large for some displays at native resolution | 01:15 |
| tgm4883 | also, should probably do something to check resolution and do h/w based on that | 01:15 |
| tgm4883 | I think i'm on 9/22 | 01:15 |
| tgm4883 | although the about screen doesn't tell me ;) | 01:16 |
| dmfrey | yeah, there is code out there in git that fixed that | 01:16 |
| dmfrey | also, added all the dashboard artwork, and changed name of the app to MythTV Android Frontend | 01:17 |
| dmfrey | code is going to be moving to a MythTV Clients organization under MythTV | 01:17 |
| tgm4883 | heh | 01:17 |
| tgm4883 | I just saw the attempt at widescreen tablet support :) | 01:17 |
| tgm4883 | gives me this very thin list of show titles on the right | 01:18 |
| dmfrey | yeah, that was a problem | 01:18 |
| dmfrey | i reverted all that back since some people had some issues with it | 01:19 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, just a thought, rather than the previous/next dual pane approach, what if you threw up the coverart on the left pane | 01:19 |
| tgm4883 | it would be skinnier leaving more space for show info | 01:19 |
| tgm4883 | which brings me to.. Adding season/episode if available to the episodes | 01:20 |
| dmfrey | could you mock that up and send it to me? | 01:21 |
| dmfrey | what do you mean? | 01:21 |
| tgm4883 | heh | 01:21 |
| tgm4883 | which part | 01:21 |
| tgm4883 | the left pane, or right pane | 01:21 |
| dmfrey | your idea of what the two panes together should look like | 01:21 |
| dmfrey | what do you mean about the "Adding season/episode if available to the episodes"? | 01:22 |
| tgm4883 | sec | 01:22 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, so I'm going to try to explain this rather than mock it up as it's kinda done | 01:24 |
| dmfrey | ok | 01:25 |
| tgm4883 | so when listing episodes, list them as "Title - SXXEXX" | 01:25 |
| tgm4883 | and possibly sort them by season/episode | 01:25 |
| tgm4883 | currently they are just listed by episode title | 01:25 |
| dmfrey | it is currently set to sort them by season/episode | 01:25 |
| tgm4883 | awesome | 01:25 |
| dmfrey | however, i am finding that the services api is not always populating it | 01:25 |
| dmfrey | so that is blank | 01:26 |
| tgm4883 | dmfrey, well it might not always be available? | 01:26 |
| dmfrey | right | 01:26 |
| tgm4883 | so blank is fine if that is the case | 01:26 |
| tgm4883 | as for the other pane | 01:26 |
| tgm4883 | do you happen to use a current mythbuntu pane? | 01:26 |
| tgm4883 | mythbuntu theme? | 01:26 |
| dmfrey | no, i currently have the steppe theme installed | 01:29 |
| dmfrey | oh, wait, i know what you mean | 01:29 |
| dmfrey | that would be really nice for a tablet | 01:31 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 01:31 |
| dmfrey | i struggle with some of the ui stuff, but I will see if Tom can produce a view for tablets that resembles that | 01:32 |
| tgm4883 | awesome | 01:33 |
| tgm4883 | keep up the good work. I'll keep testing when you need me to :) | 01:33 |
| dmfrey | thanks, and please post your ideas to the github | 01:36 |
| dmfrey | issues list | 01:36 |
| dmfrey | these were great | 01:36 |
| dmfrey | i added the notifications while we were talking | 01:36 |
| dmfrey | :) | 01:37 |
| dmfrey | so next release will have them | 01:37 |
| rhpot1991 | dmfrey: mxplayer is streaming fine on my n7 | 03:01 |
| rhpot1991 | kinda choppy though | 03:01 |
| dmfrey | that's good | 03:02 |
| dmfrey | i wonder why it is choppy | 03:03 |
| dmfrey | just added notifications to the download services | 03:03 |
| rhpot1991 | kinda reminds me of how it skips in the native player | 03:03 |
| rhpot1991 | testing some now | 03:04 |
| dmfrey | so people will know they are doing something | 03:04 |
| dmfrey | hmm, sure it is using mx player? | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | upping to 720p seems better | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | still a little blocky though | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | did you take the code out that makes it automagically go back to the recording screen? | 03:05 |
| rhpot1991 | mine is welcoming me back to a white screen now | 03:05 |
| rhpot1991 | and I have to hit an extra back | 03:05 |
| dmfrey | yeah, while back | 03:05 |
| dmfrey | we might e able to put that back in now | 03:05 |
| rhpot1991 | never got to the bottom of why that broke your phone? | 03:05 |
| dmfrey | no | 03:06 |
| dmfrey | that might have been the internal player | 03:06 |
| dmfrey | feel free to add that back in there | 03:06 |
| dmfrey | i will try it out | 03:06 |
| dmfrey | test it | 03:06 |
| dmfrey | on this phone | 03:06 |
| rhpot1991 | hmmm native player looks about the same on here now | 03:07 |
| rhpot1991 | new icons are looking nice too btw | 03:08 |
| dmfrey | yeah, i really like them | 03:09 |
| dmfrey | is the interface fast? | 03:09 |
| rhpot1991 | besides the initial load of recordings I haven't had to wait | 03:10 |
| rhpot1991 | hmmm didn't like it when I bumped the video bitrate for internal player | 03:11 |
| rhpot1991 | dmfrey: can the recording rules save yet? | 03:14 |
| rhpot1991 | I'm guessing no? | 03:14 |
| dmfrey | no | 03:14 |
| dmfrey | can only make active or inactive | 03:14 |
| dmfrey | tom is still working on that interface | 03:14 |
| dmfrey | i can't quite seem to get the ui layout stuff to line up just right | 03:15 |
| rhpot1991 | I see some text overlap | 03:15 |
| dmfrey | where at? | 03:15 |
| rhpot1991 | recording rules | 03:15 |
| rhpot1991 | here I'll email | 03:15 |
| rhpot1991 | in your gmail | 03:17 |
| dmfrey | ah, see that, thanks | 03:17 |
| dmfrey | that on the nexus? | 03:17 |
| rhpot1991 | on n7 | 03:17 |
| dmfrey | ok, thanks | 03:18 |
| rhpot1991 | I don't have latest on my gn don't think | 03:18 |
| rhpot1991 | I'll push it on there tomorrow and verify | 03:18 |
| dmfrey | ok | 03:18 |
| dmfrey | be sure to pull so you get the new stuff i did tonight | 03:18 |
| rhpot1991 | dmfrey: I think we are ready for the market in a beta capacity | 03:18 |
| rhpot1991 | interface and playback are both working well currently | 03:19 |
| rhpot1991 | just sent you one more, notice the really large row | 03:20 |
| dmfrey | i think so too | 03:20 |
| dmfrey | hmm, i wonder why that is doing that | 03:20 |
| rhpot1991 | not sure | 03:20 |
| rhpot1991 | all my other upcomings are fine | 03:21 |
| rhpot1991 | long text? | 03:21 |
| rhpot1991 | loosk like it pushed the other stuff off screen | 03:21 |
| rhpot1991 | maybe it tried to roll them or somethingt | 03:21 |
| rhpot1991 | dmfrey: looks like channels in the guide are sorted by tuner or source first before channel number | 03:23 |
| rhpot1991 | my locals are showing up before my cable card ones | 03:23 |
| rhpot1991 | by design? | 03:23 |
| dmfrey | couldn't sort by number | 03:26 |
| dmfrey | since they usually have a _ in them | 03:26 |
| bre | Hi guys, I need help with setting up a tv tuner could anyone be of assistance? | 05:10 |
| === zcutlip_ is now known as zcutlip | ||
| zcutlip | Hello, I'm having basically this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/1005224 and was wondering if there's any news or known workarounds? There was a fair amount of discussion of it on the list in the april/may timeframe but not as much recently | 23:16 |
| Zinn | [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #1005224 “Video frame buffering failed too many times” : Bugs : “mythtv” package : Ubuntu | 23:16 |
| zcutlip | Weirdly it only affects one of my 2 HD-PVRs, only live tv, and regardless whether the other is in use. | 23:18 |
| zcutlip | both HD-PVRs have been updated to the latest firmware. 0x1e, I believe | 23:18 |
| zcutlip | I'm running Mythbuntu 12.04 and and tracking Mythbuntu's 0.25-fixes | 23:19 |
| Patrickdk | oh, that issue is easy to fix :) | 23:55 |
| Patrickdk | just rewring a few seconds | 23:56 |
| Patrickdk | rewind | 23:56 |
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