[00:10] <x409> Did mythbuntu got all the feature of mythtv, I need to record 4 channel 24h/24 7day a week on my main server, and I have 6 Windows client over the network who need to acces to the video
[00:11] <x409> did it fits my need ?
[00:11] <tgm4883> x409, these 4 channels, are they security cameras?
[00:11] <tgm4883> (or other types of cameras)
[00:11] <x409> no, tv
[00:12] <tgm4883> x409, I suppose you could use it for that, although I'm not 100% sure the point that you are trying to do
[00:12] <tgm4883> there may be a much simpiler way to do it
[00:12] <tgm4883> maybe VLC+streaming?
[00:13] <x409> this is for radio station
[00:13] <x409> I need to record tv channel
[00:13] <x409> and the day after, they need to extract audio from the video to be play on air
[00:13] <x409> but, they need the video to know where is the good quote
[00:14] <tgm4883> why do you need to record 4 streams for 24 hours
[00:14] <x409> to record all the local news channel
[00:15] <x409> I will buy 4 tv tuner, this is not a problem, like Hauppauge PVR-150
[00:16] <x409> and i don't need a good resolution, something like 340x340 is OK
[00:16] <x409> the only thing i need is a full audio, no skipping frame
[00:18] <tgm4883> x409, you have 1 radio station?
[00:18] <x409> yes, in fact 2
[00:19] <tgm4883> are you just putting the raw audio feed onto the radio?
[00:20] <x409> the client listend the video, and record the audio with Adobe Audition and put it in the radio system
[00:22] <tgm4883> x409, IMO, this sounds convoluted. But I suppose you could create 4 manual schedules to record 24 hours of stream and run it each day
[00:23] <dmfrey> tgm4883, did you get to try out the latest version of the app?
[00:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, I tried it a bit, but I haven't tested it too much
[00:24] <dmfrey> much faster interface
[00:24] <x409> tgm4883, ok
[00:24] <tgm4883> IIRC, there are some things that still don't work too well until everything gets loaded
[00:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, IIRC, going into recorded programs, works, but if you try to drill down you have to wait a bunch
[00:25] <x409> tgm4883, so there is no build in option in mythtv to record one channel 24 hours by day, 7 day a week ?
[00:25] <dmfrey> ok
[00:25] <dmfrey> but it at least tells you it is downloading and to try back in a bit, right?
[00:25] <tgm4883> x409, it would be a manual schedule. But again, that isn't a very good use for a DVR
[00:25] <tgm4883> dmfrey, yea
[00:26] <dmfrey> ok, good
[00:26] <dmfrey> the thing people were complaining about was that you couldn't do anything while all the data was downloading
[00:26] <tgm4883> yea, which is bad
[00:27] <tgm4883> now you can at least do some things, but I'm wondering if there isn't a better way to do that. Honestly I haven't looked at the code though (and haven't written java since college)
[00:27] <dmfrey> it used to download, parse and load the db
[00:27] <tgm4883> Providing a fast enough backend is present, I don't see why this can't fly
[00:28] <dmfrey> now it just downloads and stores the json in the external storage cache
[00:28] <tgm4883> how much data are we exactly downloading on startup?
[00:28] <dmfrey> then loads the json into an internal cache for use while using the screens
[00:29] <dmfrey> they load into the cache really fast, then subsequent hits in the cache are almost instantaneous
[00:29] <dmfrey> right now, it loads everything
[00:29] <dmfrey> as the day changes, it will load the next days program guide
[00:30] <dmfrey> the upcoming only gets updated once a day, based on the last modified timestamp of the json file in the fs
[00:30] <dmfrey> the recorded programs gets updated after the last modified date on the recorded json is an hour old
[00:31] <dmfrey> you can always refresh manually the upcoming and recorded
[00:31] <dmfrey> it was asked to let you set the number of days of program guide you want to download
[00:31] <dmfrey> so will probably add that to the preferences
[00:32] <tgm4883> rather than download everything, would it be terrible to request it when needed?
[00:32] <tgm4883> well, a smaller amount
[00:33] <dmfrey> but, i agree, a fast enough backend should produce the data fast, but, what I have been finding, is that it takes a bit longer time to generate the data and transfer it over the wire
[00:33] <dmfrey> could do that, or just move the loading of the program guide to program guide screen, the recorded to the recording screen, etc.
[00:33] <dmfrey> also limit the days to download
[00:34] <dmfrey> my thought behind this way was to make it as much like a frontend as possible
[00:35] <dmfrey> once .26 is out, will be able to take advantage of etag to check if the network resource changed or not
[00:35] <dmfrey> as well as gzip compression
[00:35] <tgm4883> dmfrey, IMO, it might be better to only grab X hours of the guide. Keep that as minimal as possible. And work with upstream to flesh out the API
[00:36] <tgm4883> so when searching upcoming recordings or for a new schedule, it queries the backend for just that data
[00:38] <dmfrey> i will have to look into it
[00:39] <tgm4883> dmfrey, ok, just installed it on my wife's S3
[00:39] <dmfrey> luckily the recorded and upcoming are really quick
[00:39] <dmfrey> cool, not sure if I heard of anyone running it on one of them
[00:40] <tgm4883> I'm in that state where I can't see any of my episodes
[00:40] <tgm4883> I can see the shows, but can't drill down
[00:40] <tgm4883> oh, and it hangs while it downloads banners
[00:40] <dmfrey> yeah, shouldn't take too long, right?
[00:41] <tgm4883> well that banner part doesn't. maybe 10 seconds
[00:41] <tgm4883> which is kinda a long time
[00:41] <tgm4883> but it's a bit weird to wait this long for episode info
[00:42] <tgm4883> I also have an enhancement request that will really help out first installs
[00:42] <tgm4883> you want that in a bug report or here?
[00:43] <tgm4883> oh there's some oddity too
[00:43] <dmfrey> you can tell me about it, but it should go on github
[00:43] <dmfrey> i can add it
[00:43] <tgm4883> ok
[00:44] <tgm4883> if I click on Home, and I don't have a home configured (or even if it can't reach it) it should automatically kick off a scan and add a found backend
[00:44] <dmfrey> i think with the banners, I will kick off a download and the next time you come into it display them then
[00:44] <dmfrey> that should speed up the interface
[00:44] <dmfrey> oh, that's a good idea
[00:45] <tgm4883> so while this "please try again later" thing is progress. I'm still seeing it almost 10 minutes after opening this
[00:46] <tgm4883> with no indication that anything is actually happening
[00:47] <tgm4883> banners in landscape mode look funny because they don't span the width of the screen
[00:48] <tgm4883> dmfrey, so if you plan on keeping the downloading of everything, you need some sort of progress bar
[00:48] <dmfrey> ok
[00:49] <tgm4883> at this point, I have no idea whats going on and might have uninstalled this by now
[00:49] <tgm4883> it's kinda unresponsive, but I'll wait until it's finished loading everything to see if that is causing it
[00:51] <dmfrey> i wonder if it just didn't update local cache
[00:51] <dmfrey> it is probably done with recordings and upcoming
[00:51] <tgm4883> dmfrey, oh, it at least tells me that it was retreiving recording rules
[00:53] <tgm4883> if you can grab when the guide data ends, then you should make it so I can't progress past that point
[00:54] <tgm4883> i think it tells me that it's loading right nwo
[00:54] <tgm4883> also, I can't swipe left past midnight
[00:55] <dmfrey> i was thinking about that...that ViewPager would have 288 fragments in it then, if you download all 12 days of data available to the guide
[00:55] <tgm4883> either way, so I can't swipe to the next/previious day
[00:56] <dmfrey> there are buttons for next and previous day at the top of each page
[00:56] <tgm4883> dmfrey, yea I know there are buttons, but it's intuitive for me to just swipe to the right if it's 11:30PM
[00:57] <tgm4883> swipe to the right should just load next day
[00:57] <tgm4883> *If it would take me to 12:00 AM
[00:57] <tgm4883> not always :)
[00:57] <tgm4883> 20 minutes later, still can't watch recordings :/
[00:58] <dmfrey> can you look int /mnt/sdcard/Android/org.mytht/cache/programs on the fs?
[00:59] <tgm4883> hmm, maybe
[00:59] <tgm4883> is there a minimal files I can get to just use adb to get there?
[00:59] <tgm4883> otherwise I'll need to download something on the phone
[01:00] <dmfrey> astro should be able to do it
[01:01] <tgm4883> wait, it just loaded it
[01:01] <dmfrey> otherwise, you could do just the android sdk
[01:01] <tgm4883> it might be because I hit the refresh button a few minutes ago
[01:01] <dmfrey> don't need eclipse to do that, although the make a view that makes it easy
[01:05] <tgm4883> the two folders in the cache dir are program and programGuide
[01:06] <dmfrey> yes
[01:07] <dmfrey> oops, i said programs above
[01:08] <tgm4883> there is a bunch of things in the program folder
[01:09] <dmfrey> ok, so the cache isn't updating, so the files downloaded, but the cache wasn't notified
[01:09] <tgm4883> well it is now I think
[01:10] <tgm4883> I believe I have full functionality in the app now
[01:10] <tgm4883> although it's still sluggish
[01:12] <tgm4883> dmfrey, also, it would be nice if I could do something with the recordings other than watch them
[01:12] <tgm4883> such as delete/get info, etc
[01:12] <dmfrey> we are getting there
[01:12] <dmfrey> :)
[01:13] <dmfrey> i actually want, when you click on it, to go to a details view, then you can play, delete, etc.
[01:13] <dmfrey> see all the artwork
[01:13] <dmfrey> that kind of stuff
[01:14] <tgm4883> dmfrey, are you keeping aspect ratio on the banners?
[01:14] <tgm4883> IDK if it's just me, but they look odd on my nexus 7
[01:15] <dmfrey> the latest code has that fixed
[01:15] <dmfrey> they were too large for some displays at native resolution
[01:15] <tgm4883> also, should probably do something to check resolution and do h/w based on that
[01:15] <tgm4883> I think i'm on 9/22
[01:16] <tgm4883> although the about screen doesn't tell me ;)
[01:16] <dmfrey> yeah, there is code out there in git that fixed that
[01:17] <dmfrey> also, added all the dashboard artwork, and changed name of the app to MythTV Android Frontend
[01:17] <dmfrey> code is going to be moving to a MythTV Clients organization under MythTV
[01:17] <tgm4883> heh
[01:17] <tgm4883> I just saw the attempt at widescreen tablet support :)
[01:18] <tgm4883> gives me this very thin list of show titles on the right
[01:18] <dmfrey> yeah, that was a problem
[01:19] <dmfrey> i reverted all that back since some people had some issues with it
[01:19] <tgm4883> dmfrey, just a thought, rather than the previous/next dual pane approach, what if you threw up the coverart on the left pane
[01:19] <tgm4883> it would be skinnier leaving more space for show info
[01:20] <tgm4883> which brings me to.. Adding season/episode if available to the episodes
[01:21] <dmfrey> could you mock that up and send it to me?
[01:21] <dmfrey> what do you mean?
[01:21] <tgm4883> heh
[01:21] <tgm4883> which part
[01:21] <tgm4883> the left pane, or right pane
[01:21] <dmfrey> your idea of what the two panes together should look like
[01:22] <dmfrey> what do you mean about the "Adding season/episode if available to the episodes"?
[01:22] <tgm4883> sec
[01:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, so I'm going to try to explain this rather than mock it up as it's kinda done
[01:25] <dmfrey> ok
[01:25] <tgm4883> so when listing episodes, list them as "Title - SXXEXX"
[01:25] <tgm4883> and possibly sort them by season/episode
[01:25] <tgm4883> currently they are just listed by episode title
[01:25] <dmfrey> it is currently set to sort them by season/episode
[01:25] <tgm4883> awesome
[01:25] <dmfrey> however, i am finding that the services api is not always populating it
[01:26] <dmfrey> so that is blank
[01:26] <tgm4883> dmfrey, well it might not always be available?
[01:26] <dmfrey> right
[01:26] <tgm4883> so blank is fine if that is the case
[01:26] <tgm4883> as for the other pane
[01:26] <tgm4883> do you happen to use a current mythbuntu pane?
[01:26] <tgm4883> mythbuntu theme?
[01:29] <dmfrey> no, i currently have the steppe theme installed
[01:29] <dmfrey> oh, wait, i know what you mean
[01:31] <dmfrey> that would be really nice for a tablet
[01:31] <tgm4883> yea
[01:32] <dmfrey> i struggle with some of the ui stuff, but I will see if Tom can produce a view for tablets that resembles that
[01:33] <tgm4883> awesome
[01:33] <tgm4883> keep up the good work. I'll keep testing when you need me to :)
[01:36] <dmfrey> thanks, and please post your ideas to the github
[01:36] <dmfrey> issues list
[01:36] <dmfrey> these were great
[01:36] <dmfrey> i added the notifications while we were talking
[01:37] <dmfrey> :)
[01:37] <dmfrey> so next release will have them
[03:01] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: mxplayer is streaming fine on my n7
[03:01] <rhpot1991> kinda choppy though
[03:02] <dmfrey> that's good
[03:03] <dmfrey> i wonder why it is choppy
[03:03] <dmfrey> just added notifications to the download services
[03:03] <rhpot1991> kinda reminds me of how it skips in the native player
[03:04] <rhpot1991> testing some now
[03:04] <dmfrey> so people will know they are doing something
[03:04] <dmfrey> hmm, sure it is using mx player?
[03:04] <rhpot1991> upping to 720p seems better
[03:04] <rhpot1991> still a little blocky though
[03:05] <rhpot1991> did you take the code out that makes it automagically go back to the recording screen?
[03:05] <rhpot1991> mine is welcoming me back to a white screen now
[03:05] <rhpot1991> and I have to hit an extra back
[03:05] <dmfrey> yeah, while back
[03:05] <dmfrey> we might e able to put that back in now
[03:05] <rhpot1991> never got to the bottom of why that broke your phone?
[03:06] <dmfrey> no
[03:06] <dmfrey> that might have been the internal player
[03:06] <dmfrey> feel free to add that back in there
[03:06] <dmfrey> i will try it out
[03:06] <dmfrey> test it
[03:06] <dmfrey> on this phone
[03:07] <rhpot1991> hmmm native player looks about the same on here now
[03:08] <rhpot1991> new icons are looking nice too btw
[03:09] <dmfrey> yeah, i really like them
[03:09] <dmfrey> is the interface fast?
[03:10] <rhpot1991> besides the initial load of recordings I haven't had to wait
[03:11] <rhpot1991> hmmm didn't like it when I bumped the video bitrate for internal player
[03:14] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: can the recording rules save yet?
[03:14] <rhpot1991> I'm guessing no?
[03:14] <dmfrey> no
[03:14] <dmfrey> can only make active or inactive
[03:14] <dmfrey> tom is still working on that interface
[03:15] <dmfrey> i can't quite seem to get the ui layout stuff to line up just right
[03:15] <rhpot1991> I see some text overlap
[03:15] <dmfrey> where at?
[03:15] <rhpot1991> recording rules
[03:15] <rhpot1991> here I'll email
[03:17] <rhpot1991> in your gmail
[03:17] <dmfrey> ah, see that, thanks
[03:17] <dmfrey> that on the nexus?
[03:17] <rhpot1991> on n7
[03:18] <dmfrey> ok, thanks
[03:18] <rhpot1991> I don't have latest on my gn don't think
[03:18] <rhpot1991> I'll push it on there tomorrow and verify
[03:18] <dmfrey> ok
[03:18] <dmfrey> be sure to pull so you get the new stuff i did tonight
[03:18] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: I think we are ready for the market in a beta capacity
[03:19] <rhpot1991> interface and playback are both working well currently
[03:20] <rhpot1991> just sent you one more, notice the really large row
[03:20] <dmfrey> i think so too
[03:20] <dmfrey> hmm, i wonder why that is doing that
[03:20] <rhpot1991> not sure
[03:21] <rhpot1991> all my other upcomings are fine
[03:21] <rhpot1991> long text?
[03:21] <rhpot1991> loosk like it pushed the other stuff off screen
[03:21] <rhpot1991> maybe it tried to roll them or somethingt
[03:23] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: looks like channels in the guide are sorted by tuner or source first before channel number
[03:23] <rhpot1991> my locals are showing up before my cable card ones
[03:23] <rhpot1991> by design?
[03:26] <dmfrey> couldn't sort by number
[03:26] <dmfrey> since they usually have a _ in them
[05:10] <bre> Hi guys, I need help with setting up a tv tuner could anyone be of assistance?
[23:16] <zcutlip> Hello, I'm having basically this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/1005224 and was wondering if there's any news or known workarounds?  There was a fair amount of discussion of it on the list in the april/may timeframe but not as much recently
[23:16] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #1005224 “Video frame buffering failed too many times” : Bugs : “mythtv” package : Ubuntu
[23:18] <zcutlip> Weirdly it only affects one of my 2 HD-PVRs, only live tv, and regardless whether the other is in use.
[23:18] <zcutlip> both HD-PVRs have been updated to the latest firmware. 0x1e, I believe
[23:19] <zcutlip> I'm running Mythbuntu 12.04 and and tracking Mythbuntu's 0.25-fixes
[23:55] <Patrickdk> oh, that issue is easy to fix :)
[23:56] <Patrickdk> just rewring a few seconds
[23:56] <Patrickdk> rewind