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| Shazer[2] | How do I install Chrome? | 01:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Shazer[2] | I downloaded the .deb? | 01:03 |
| Shazer[2] | But I'm not sure how to install... | 01:03 |
| dogmatic69 | just open a terminal, 'sudo apt-get install google-chrome' | 01:08 |
| dogmatic69 | might need to add the ppa first ppa:chromium-daily/stable | 01:12 |
| dogmatic69 | or just use software centre | 01:12 |
| ali1234 | what? no | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | you install chrome by going to the chrome website and downloading the deb file for it | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | it sets you up with the correct repositories and everything | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | chromium isn't the same thing as chrome | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | and google-chrome isn't in the default repositories | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | oh, once you downloaded the .deb you just double click it | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | easy. | 01:17 |
| christel | good morning | 06:06 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 06:20 |
| AlanBell | morning | 07:04 |
| popey | morning | 07:33 |
| popey | AlanBell, do you still have one of my usb3 hard disks? | 07:33 |
| popey | or did I ever get that back? | 07:33 |
| AlanBell | popey: still have it | 07:33 |
| popey | yay | 07:34 |
| popey | need to grab that at some point | 07:34 |
| AlanBell | well no disk, just enclosure and a USB stick | 07:34 |
| popey | oh, i thought it had a disk in, my mistake | 07:34 |
| AlanBell | at home today? | 07:34 |
| popey | yeah | 07:34 |
| AlanBell | ok, I am out and about, if time allows I might pop by with it | 07:34 |
| popey | ooh that would be lovely, come in for tea! | 07:35 |
| * popey puts some clothes on | 07:35 | |
| popey | :D | 07:35 |
| diplo | Morning | 07:36 |
| popey | http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/09/gogcom-to-add-linux-support.html | 07:37 |
| popey | more for that list directhex ^ :) | 07:37 |
| popey | http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/beta-late-than-never-3/ :) | 07:42 |
| AlanBell | its all games games games | 07:46 |
| diplo | It's all good AlanBell :) | 07:49 |
| knightwise | mooornin | 07:58 |
| knightwise | hey maxp | 07:59 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! :) | 08:21 |
| bittin^work | morning | 08:22 |
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| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:33 |
| andylockran | hey all | 09:03 |
| bittin^work | hi | 09:04 |
| andylockran | anyone know why file_get_contents($url) on php would have suddenly started failing (debian lenny :s) - need a way to test it | 09:04 |
| andylockran | grumpy ;( | 09:09 |
| andylockran | I've got a fairly broken php problem | 09:10 |
| andylockran | http://dpaste.com/806734/ | 09:10 |
| andylockran | that works on most of my servers | 09:10 |
| ali1234 | why add \n? | 09:10 |
| andylockran | ali1234: formatting.. | 09:10 |
| andylockran | ali1234: just so it looks prettier | 09:11 |
| andylockran | but it's broken on a debian lenny server that is running the site where the code is used | 09:11 |
| ali1234 | oh right echo | 09:11 |
| ali1234 | just woke up. i dunno | 09:11 |
| andylockran | it has been working up until recently, but very unsure as to why it would have stopped working | 09:11 |
| andylockran | according to a strace, it does the DNS lookup fine (which was my first concern) and all looks hunkey dorey | 09:12 |
| ali1234 | do you have all the right settings? | 09:12 |
| andylockran | http://dpaste.com/806735/ | 09:12 |
| andylockran | yeah, allow_url_fopen | 09:12 |
| andylockran | is set to On in php.ini - and in the phpinfo() for both php.ini for apache and for cli | 09:13 |
| andylockran | mgdm: you about? | 09:13 |
| kirrus | andylockran: have you tried wgetting said file, as the webserver user, and making sure that works? | 09:17 |
| kirrus | sometimes http is firewalled | 09:17 |
| kirrus | andylockran: also, check the apache error log / php error messages? | 09:17 |
| andylockran | wget is working | 09:18 |
| andylockran | and I can't see any errors in the logs | 09:19 |
| andylockran | I've got E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE on | 09:19 |
| bittin^work | haha somone is queueing outside the Apple Store here and waiting for iPhone 5 =D | 09:52 |
| pinky- | bittin^work, where's "here?" | 09:53 |
| bittin^work | Täby, Stockholm | 09:54 |
| bittin^work | the only apple store in Sweden | 09:54 |
| bittin^work | etc | 09:54 |
| pinky- | ok ty | 09:54 |
| bittin^work | np | 09:54 |
| mattt | what's so funny about queueing for an iphone? :) | 09:55 |
| popey | life is too short to queue for a phone | 09:56 |
| bittin^work | mattt, that person has fricking 520km to queue for a phone :p | 09:56 |
| bittin^work | has gone 520km i mean | 09:56 |
| mattt | popey: fully agree, doesn't stop thousands from doing it tho | 10:00 |
| popey | sure, people are idiots | 10:00 |
| mattt | i don't even like queueing for food | 10:01 |
| bittin^work | if you go 520km to the only Apple store in the country to queue you dont have much to do :D | 10:01 |
| mattt | bittin^work: yeah, i work with a guy who supposedly camped out for a phone | 10:01 |
| mattt | i gave up on understanding people years ago | 10:01 |
| pinky- | it's all about the Bling | 10:02 |
| pinky- | I'm an old hippy and refuse to buy anything related | 10:04 |
| pinky- | I've still got a Sont Ericsson from 10 years a go:) | 10:06 |
| pinky- | Sony* | 10:06 |
| bittin^work | i got an ZTE Skate, cheap android phone is not that hip | 10:06 |
| pinky- | does me just fine | 10:06 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:06 |
| bittin^work | and iam out of podcasts to listen to :( | 10:07 |
| bittin^work | heard Ubuntu Uk Podcast S05E16 and Droidnation #40 this morning | 10:07 |
| pinky- | I'm normally housebound so I don't need maps | 10:07 |
| mattt | bittin^work: i've not listened, but the food fight ones seem good | 10:07 |
| mattt | bittin^work: http://foodfightshow.org/index.html | 10:08 |
| popey | bittin^work, pcpro? tuxradar? | 10:08 |
| popey | I like those two | 10:08 |
| pinky- | when's the next ubuntu audio.cast due? | 10:09 |
| bittin^work | popey, never heard any of those | 10:11 |
| bittin^work | but my spotify got some music and its lunch now anyways, so think i will be fine | 10:12 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: care to start making bets on my trip to ireland next week to see if the airports strike! | 10:12 |
| xnox | czajkowski: it will not strike, instead the runway will be flooded. | 10:16 |
| xnox | =) | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | xnox: nah we can deal with floods no bother, it's ireand we're used to the rain | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | the striking and snow tends to muck up my travel | 10:16 |
| xnox | fair enough =) | 10:17 |
| xnox | I like how in norway they clean the whole runway from 2 feet of snow in less than 9 minutes for a plane to take off. | 10:17 |
| mattt | xnox: here it takes 2 weeks | 10:17 |
| mattt | except we're only talking 2 inches | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | xnox: read this first - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/12/21/crazy-few-days/ | 10:18 |
| xnox | mattt: do they melt it with cups of tea? | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | xnox: then http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/12/22/taim-sa-bhaile/ | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | xnox: you going to the open stack meet up later on today ? | 10:20 |
| pinky- | yup my cellphone is 10 years old and I don't have a facebook account, maybe I'm on my own in my own World.. but I like it | 10:23 |
| pinky- | only thing I do regular is upgrade my pc's | 10:25 |
| mungojerry | and poo, and use irc? | 10:26 |
| popey | hah | 10:26 |
| pinky- | plus lots of coffee | 10:26 |
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| pinky- | I've been using irc for over 20-odd years and my spelling is no better, there's no hope for some of us | 10:29 |
| xnox | czajkowski: well. I will pop into the office for installer meeting. But I don't think I will be staying for openstack as I have London Volleyball Association Referee meeting to attend at 7pm up north in zone 2. | 10:31 |
| Laney | zone 2, that's practically the countryside right?! | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod morning | 10:45 |
| gord | i hear you have to bring your passport for zone 2 | 10:45 |
| davmor2 | gord: are you back? | 10:46 |
| gord | nope | 10:48 |
| * popey tickles gord | 10:48 | |
| popey | drat, I had a question for gord and I can't remember it now | 10:48 |
| gord | but i walked up a mountain again today so i'm not moving from my hotel room bed for a few hours | 10:48 |
| davmor2 | gord: isn't it like insane o'clock in the night there? | 10:49 |
| gord | nope, nearly 8 | 10:49 |
| davmor2 | gord: oh well that's not so bad | 10:50 |
| gord | had a pizza with potato on it last night, it was the best pizza ever, gonna make it myself when i get home | 10:51 |
| mgdm | andylockran: pong? | 11:04 |
| diplo | Afternoon guys, I remember someone in here saying they have set up an internal messenger service probably on xmpp ? | 11:17 |
| mgdm | In the past I have used Openfire and ejabberd to do that | 11:18 |
| mgdm | both work OPenfire is quite big and heavy and Java-y though | 11:18 |
| mgdm | ejabberd's config is a little quirky, too | 11:18 |
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| diplo | Just looking at Openfire actually, so at least that's a good start | 11:18 |
| mgdm | so it's swings and roundabouts :) | 11:18 |
| MattJ | XMPP \o/ | 11:18 |
| mgdm | hehe | 11:18 |
| mgdm | not seen that in a while, MattJ :) | 11:19 |
| bittin^work | XMPP o/ | 11:19 |
| diplo | On a secondary point my boss has just raised, integrating on into our php erp application | 11:19 |
| diplo | Use same backgrounds I guess | 11:19 |
| mgdm | Openfire is good at tying into other stuff, though you might need a plugin for both apps to do it | 11:20 |
| diplo | https://blueimp.net/ajax/ | 11:20 |
| diplo | OK, that's doable.. will delve deeper thanks | 11:20 |
| MattJ | Only thing I would be wary of with Openfire is their security flaw history | 11:20 |
| mgdm | the advantage of XMPP stuff is you can use loads of clients to access it | 11:20 |
| diplo | All internal stuff anyhoo, but will also look into that | 11:21 |
| MattJ | Keep it firewalled as much as you can if you go with it, especially the admin web interface it has | 11:21 |
| bittin^work | i only used ejabberd but was a while ago i was playing with that stuff | 11:21 |
| mgdm | that's good advice for any network service | 11:22 |
| MattJ | mgdm, plenty of network services are run public-facing on the internet, I would never personally allow Openfire that privilege | 11:23 |
| MattJ | A while back they had a bug that allowed any user to change any other user's password (including the admin's) | 11:23 |
| mgdm | well, obviously | 11:23 |
| bittin^work | mgdm, yea i like that with xmpp and aim | 11:24 |
| bittin^work | that you can be logged in at alot of computers | 11:24 |
| mgdm | but my point was that if you're running *any* service, regardless of what it is or its security history, that doesn't need to be public then don't make it | 11:24 |
| MattJ | Sure | 11:24 |
| bittin^work | but all my friends only uses facebook chat or skype nowdays or irc :p | 11:24 |
| bittin^work | im kinda died :o | 11:24 |
| MattJ | How anyone uses Skype I don't know | 11:26 |
| pinky- | I used to have a 4 digit icq number before until it was hacked by someone from Turkey | 11:34 |
| mungojerry | pinky-, i'll give you a 1-digit number on another service nobody else uses either :P | 11:35 |
| mungojerry | you have have number 2 on blobby messaging service | 11:36 |
| pinky- | haha | 11:36 |
| bittin^work | hahahahhaa: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388780_411092718945985_1467634616_n.jpg | 11:39 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 11:40 |
| pinky- | imo Skype is used a lot because of webcam conference and group chat, I suppose the same reason why Video Conference sites like BlogTV are popular nowadays, seems people like function | 12:13 |
| brobostigon | and google+'s hangouts. | 12:14 |
| popey | 11317622 | 12:14 |
| popey | <3 ICQ | 12:15 |
| bittin^work | popey, added u on icq :D | 12:17 |
| livingdaylight | I heard there were power regression issues with kernel 3.5 vs 3.4? | 12:17 |
| pinky- | in the old days it was possible to collect all "warez" and not miss anything, so I tended to try ALL new software.. there is so much nowadays that's not possible.. plus I've had a couple of bad experiences and prefer my privicy now so I've stopped joining every new service.. I don't even have a google+ account | 12:17 |
| livingdaylight | Would you say unity is optimized for the laptop? What DE or distro would you recommend for laptop? | 12:18 |
| pinky- | I hit my head in the 90's and been in that era ever since:) | 12:33 |
| pinky- | there's no help for me | 12:34 |
| * mattt hands pinky- a 2400 bps modem | 12:35 | |
| bigcalm | Good afternoon peeps :) | 12:35 |
| * pinky- dials Demon | 12:35 | |
| pinky- | good afternoon bigcalm | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | Are we having a nostalgia kick? | 12:35 |
| pinky- | yeah lol | 12:36 |
| bittin^work | telnet antidote.hopto.org with http://www.paradroid.net/cgterm/ for the modern C= 64 BBS experience | 12:36 |
| pinky- | always! | 12:36 |
| * bigcalm pauses with some dust force | 12:36 | |
| livingdaylight | haro? | 12:40 |
| livingdaylight | is this ubuntu-uk channel? | 12:40 |
| mattt | no | 12:40 |
| mattt | #ubuntu-eu | 12:40 |
| bittin^work | it might be | 12:40 |
| livingdaylight | #ubuntu-nwo ? | 12:41 |
| bigcalm | That was fun | 12:48 |
| bigcalm | Now back to making more crud | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: ah come on your code isn't that bad :P | 12:55 |
| * popey wonders why Laney felt the need to send me a Boyzone track via Spotify | 12:55 | |
| bittin^work | Boyzone i forgot about them lol =< | 12:56 |
| xnox | there is a box of 11.10 CDs.... using one as a coaster =) | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | popey: he thought you needed camping up and romancing before he asked you to sing YMCA I can only assume he doesn't know it just takes alcohol and a karaoke machine | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: minisipserver just got published | 13:24 |
| * popey wonders when/if AlanBell is coming over for tea | 13:27 | |
| diplo | Wasn't that happening a few hours ago :p | 13:45 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: know what the status is of Vessel being published in the USC? | 14:07 |
| popey | can't see that word without thinking of Star Trek.. "Wessel" | 14:09 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: ah, the devs are dragging their heals http://support.humblebundle.com/customer/portal/articles/744388-vessel-for-mac-and-linux-alpha | 14:09 |
| bigcalm | popey: heh | 14:09 |
| bigcalm | Might give in and play it via steam on gameos | 14:10 |
| bigcalm | (at some point) | 14:10 |
| bigcalm | popey: where are your unclear wessels? | 14:20 |
| mungojerry | diplo, i might have to stop using cinnamon :( | 14:29 |
| diplo | I already have | 14:34 |
| diplo | Was having way to many issues, my only issue with unity is the dash speed and just wish it acted more like do | 14:35 |
| mgdm | popey: we got a telly in here yesterday with voice control, which resulted in a bit of a 'hello computer?' scene for a while | 14:35 |
| popey | :) | 14:36 |
| bigcalm | Back to the CRUD | 14:44 |
| mungojerry | diplo, main issue is lockups during i/o and runing out of memory, causing bad performance. works great on my laptop thought, but my desktop PC is usually up for weeks at a time and running 50 chrome tabs etc | 14:47 |
| mungojerry | gnome2 never complained | 14:47 |
| mungojerry | unity, gnome3 weren't great either, but haven't used unity since january/feb | 14:47 |
| diplo | I think i/o was my issue, also with lock ups] | 14:48 |
| mungojerry | :( | 14:53 |
| mungojerry | didn't report bug since i didn't know how to troubleshoot it | 14:53 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: what's your preferred method of deployment for PHP projects? | 15:08 |
| mgdm | bigcalm: we have our own mechanism that we're just about to move to Capistrano | 15:09 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: ta. Boss is mumbling something about a new deployment method and Capistrano was also mentioned | 15:10 |
| bigcalm | Not a fan of working with Ruby/Rails, but oh well | 15:11 |
| mgdm | Capistrano is not Rails :) | 15:11 |
| mgdm | and ruby's not that bad | 15:12 |
| popey | damned with faint praise | 15:15 |
| bigcalm | :D | 15:15 |
| bigcalm | popey: we get that with PHP _all the time_ | 15:15 |
| mgdm | bear in mind I'm from Scotland, where 'not bad' is approximately equal to 'pretty good' | 15:18 |
| christel | RAWR | 15:22 |
| christel | what an amazing day | 15:22 |
| * bigcalm tickles christel | 15:25 | |
| christel | hihi | 15:26 |
| christel | been filming at black hangar all day | 15:28 |
| christel | amazing | 15:28 |
| mattt | who's going to openstack meetup tonight? | 15:31 |
| mattt | think i see a few of you reg'd | 15:31 |
| popey | mgdm, haha, when I used to teach courses for SAP, we had a score card which had loads of questions about the course, you could score it --- -- - 0 + ++ +++, which amounts to 1 through 7.. scotts people _always_ put 0 down the middle | 15:31 |
| popey | which amounts to 4 out of 7, which is _awful_, target was 6.3/7 | 15:32 |
| mgdm | hehehe | 15:37 |
| bigcalm | Can one eat too much Rennie? | 15:47 |
| mgdm | if you start foaming at the mouth, that's too much | 15:49 |
| bigcalm | Or a sign of rabies | 15:49 |
| christel | probably | 15:49 |
| daubers | bigcalm: If you eat 2 metric tonnes of it, I suspect that might be too much | 15:51 |
| bigcalm | Imperial tons are okay though I guess | 15:51 |
| daubers | bigcalm: Like the dollar, they're not worth much these days... | 15:55 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: still waiting for the app | 15:56 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: looks like humble indie bundle are as well | 15:57 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: yeah there were some bug that we and the bundle guys discovered on different platforms so we are all waiting for it | 15:57 |
| bigcalm | I see | 15:59 |
| mattt | i've used fabric for some deployment-related tasks | 16:08 |
| mattt | may be worth looking at in conjunction w/ capistrano | 16:09 |
| bigcalm | Rochard does look like fun. Might install it later | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: torchlight is nice shame about the fullscreen not working correctly but other than that it's great | 16:10 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: I'm not good at controlling lots of things at once | 16:10 |
| daftykins | ah back in the UK after 2 months of travels away | 16:17 |
| popey | wb | 16:17 |
| daftykins | ta ^_^ | 16:17 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: what drew you back to this dump? | 16:18 |
| daftykins | just the rock i have to hop on before getting back to Guernsey really ;) | 16:19 |
| daftykins | went to a wedding of a friends over in Australia, then road-tripped the US from west coast to east coast | 16:19 |
| daftykins | flying back from New York via Iceland on Tuesday | 16:19 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 16:19 |
| bigcalm | Goodness | 16:19 |
| MartijnVdS | had/having a good time? :) | 16:19 |
| daftykins | yeah not bad thanks :) hot weather nearly killed me though XD | 16:20 |
| daftykins | a while back now, we drove through Death Valley national park - 47 deg C in the shade | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | ouch | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Set aircon to "north pole" | 16:21 |
| daftykins | if only - unfortunately i got to use it rarely as my two friends enjoyed the warmth quite unreasonably | 16:21 |
| daftykins | but ah well, all done now :) | 16:21 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| bigcalm | How the flipityflop did it get to be nearly 6pm? | 16:53 |
| Laney | time passed at one second per second | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: did you blink | 16:55 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: this is possible. Sometimes my blinks can take hours to complete | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: and is there a 6foot stone angel somewhere nearby | 16:56 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: that would send me back in time | 16:56 |
| bigcalm | Or just kill me | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: ah no it just transfers you in time that particular one sent them back :P | 16:57 |
| davmor2 | I keep hearing and seeing adverts for "killing them softly" (film) and thinking with his song (Fugee stylee) | 17:01 |
| daftykins | tellin' mah whole life, with his words... | 17:11 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: 1 time....... | 17:11 |
| daftykins | ;] | 17:11 |
| daftykins | can't believe Red Dwarf is coming back | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | http://www.flossuk.org/Events/Unconference2012?action=show&redirect=unconf2012 people might want to ponder this (day after Ubuntu release) | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | err, no. 18th is the release | 18:54 |
| christel | 11 | 19:17 |
| Azelphur | Elonex webbook with Ubuntu 12.04, display corruption, any ideas? | 19:23 |
| AlanBell | oh my | 19:23 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: define corruption | 19:23 |
| * AlanBell knows about corruption on the webbook | 19:23 | |
| Azelphur | penguin42: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vrm9kjtpcpzymxb/2012-09-27%2020.24.03.jpg?m | 19:25 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: know how to fix it? | 19:25 |
| AlanBell | install hardy :) | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | just looking for the project with the open drivers for it | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | Azelphur: what is it running at the moment? | 19:27 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: broken ubuntu install apparently | 19:27 |
| Azelphur | so trying to fresh install | 19:27 |
| penguin42 | oh, not a subtle problem then | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | it has a via C7 graphics card which is rubbish, and has rubbish open drivers | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | VIA did briefly let some binary drivers out that let the 3d stuff work which was good for a few weeks until a new kernel broke them and they never reappeared | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | http://www.openchrome.org/ | 19:29 |
| Azelphur | this sounds easy \o/ | 19:29 |
| AlanBell | if you plug in an external monitor from bootup you might be able to get some stuff working, enough to get the openchrome drivers installed | 19:30 |
| AlanBell | I think we used a fixed xorg.conf to give hints about the display size as the edid lies | 19:30 |
| AlanBell | it might be that with just an xorg.conf specifying the resolution as 1024x600 then the corruption will go away | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148184 | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | sample xorg.conf there, the important bit is Option "PanelSize" "1024x600" | 19:33 |
| Azelphur | cool, trying it | 19:34 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: I think I need a default xorg.conf to get this to work | 19:50 |
| Azelphur | not sure how to make a default one though | 19:50 |
| AlanBell | how do you mean? | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | by default there isn't one | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | you just create a text file in /etc/xorg.conf with the right stuff in it | 19:51 |
| Azelphur | yea | 19:51 |
| Azelphur | but I don't know what the right stuff is | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148184 comment 4 | 19:51 |
| Azelphur | on that thread he says he added that stuff to his xorg.conf, insinuating that there is more | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | paste that in | 19:51 |
| Azelphur | is that the whole file? | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | no, that is sufficient | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | err, looks like it needs Section before "Device" | 19:52 |
| Azelphur | and identifier is spelt wrong | 19:52 |
| * hamitron still hates the lack of xorgconfig | 19:52 | |
| Azelphur | I'm pretty sure I fixed those things :p | 19:52 |
| hamitron | http://www.x.org/wiki/ConfigurationHelp | 19:54 |
| Azelphur | oO, skeleton configuration files | 19:55 |
| hamitron | do what AB said first ofc | 19:55 |
| hamitron | ;) | 19:55 |
| hamitron | he is more clever than I | 19:55 |
| Azelphur | I did, it's not working :( | 19:56 |
| hamitron | :/ | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | trying to find the original stuff I wrote about it | 19:56 |
| Azelphur | I'm trying this on a livecd though, I created the xorg.conf and restarted lightdm | 19:56 |
| Azelphur | cool :D | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | got rid of that domain some time ago, but the data should exist somewhere | 19:56 |
| hamitron | took me over a year to get X working on my first install of linux | 19:59 |
| AlanBell | http://rblondon.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/elonex-webbook-screen-issue.html that one looks correct | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | think I might have deleted all the webbookblog.com content | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | ForcePanel might be important too | 20:04 |
| Azelphur | cool, ty :D | 20:05 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: woo it works! \o/ | 20:16 |
| * Azelphur gives AlanBell 5 internets. | 20:16 | |
| AlanBell | yay | 20:17 |
| AlanBell | so what is that running now? Quantal? | 20:17 |
| AlanBell | actually you probably want to stop at precise with that one as there won't be 3d and it won't have the horsepower for decent llvmpipe performance | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | or just don't install unity or gnome-shell | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | and marvel at how fast everything runs | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: 12.04 | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | yea, I'm tempted to say this might be a candidate for lubuntu | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | yea, I'll drop lubuntu on it | 20:21 |
| AlanBell | go for it | 20:23 |
| AlanBell | good point ali1234 | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Or try adding MATE (i.e. Gnome2) | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | I imagine lxde is faster than gnome2 | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | not really | 20:24 |
| * Azelphur shrugs | 20:24 | |
| Azelphur | I have Lubuntu iso downloaded anyway so it's nice and easy | 20:24 |
| AlanBell | you are not going to achieve "fast" | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | hehe indeed | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | what's it's storage? | 20:25 |
| AlanBell | but there are a number of things that are perfectly usable for modest requirements | 20:25 |
| AlanBell | 80GB hdd | 20:25 |
| AlanBell | do you have 1GB on it? | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | sata or pata? | 20:26 |
| AlanBell | the upgrade from 512 to 1GB is worth doing | 20:26 |
| AlanBell | data | 20:26 |
| AlanBell | sata even | 20:26 |
| penguin42 | might be a worth a low end ssd, might make it usable | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | hehe, it's not my netbook | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | so someone else has to put up with the painful slowness ;) | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | I wouldn't bother with buying stuff for it, but a rummage around the bits box might produce a ram stick | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | it can only be upgraded to 1GB | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | also MATE is completely redundant | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | even if you stick a 2GB stick in you will only get 1GB recognised | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | gnome-panel still runs on gtk3 | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | yea, I'm just getting it up and running, I don't have any spare sticks for it :p | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | it'll be slow, but better than nothing | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | i wonder who is maintaining that actually | 20:31 |
| jacobw | evening | 20:35 |
| MartijnVdS | \o jacobw | 20:35 |
| jacobw | hey, how's it going? | 20:35 |
| AlanBell | why can't we have party political broadcasts like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7QfCEEiBs&feature=player_embedded | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | because you live in a sane country | 20:36 |
| AlanBell | there is that | 20:37 |
| MartijnVdS | And you already have panel game shows :) | 20:38 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 20:41 |
| jacobw | GE bigcalm | 20:41 |
| popey | pip pip | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: trying CP/M again? | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Interchange_Program | 20:43 |
| penguin42 | hehe | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | alias pip=cp | 20:47 |
| penguin42 | wasn't it also similar to dd ? | 20:48 |
| MartijnVdS | well cp is quite similar to dd ;) | 20:48 |
| AlanBell | on my phone I have google plus messenger or something, where is that in the web UI? | 20:59 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: do you have the web UI open? | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | yes | 21:01 |
| bigcalm | Message sent | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | my phone pings | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | no activity in the browser | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | But nothing accessible via the web? Poop | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | Maybe it's a phone only thing | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | very odd | 21:03 |
| daubers | AlanBell: just use empathy? | 21:15 |
| AlanBell | huh? | 21:16 |
| daubers | empathy does google chat | 21:16 |
| daubers | (which G+ messenger essentially is) | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | but how come the chat thing on the right of G+ doesn't do anything much when it happens? | 21:17 |
| daubers | No idea :) | 21:17 |
| daubers | becuase it smells? | 21:18 |
| AlanBell | that just shows online people too, not sure it relates to messenger | 21:18 |
| ali1234 | because gtalk actually supports multiple instances properly | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | if you are using g+ when someone chats to you, it will do something | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | or if you start talking back to the person through the website etc | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't make every device you have go crazy when you are having a conversation | 21:24 |
| AlanBell | so the problem is that my phone is online too much? | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | possibly | 21:24 |
| AlanBell | I can't transfer a conversation from one device to another I think | 21:25 |
| ali1234 | it's related to your status | 21:25 |
| ali1234 | if you are marked "away" then it won't ping that device | 21:25 |
| ali1234 | i think that's how it works | 21:25 |
| ali1234 | also if you ignore thephone and start using g+ then it will send the messages out after a couple of minutes | 21:26 |
| AlanBell | hmm | 21:26 |
| AlanBell | I kind of find old messages on the phone occasionally because I am not looking for them there | 21:26 |
| AlanBell | not really wanting to use that service at all really | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | it's possibly also related to why you always pingpong online/offline 100 times and fill my indicator queue :) | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | oh, someone else told me that | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | i've told you before :) | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | ok, so how do I stop doing that? | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | no idea | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | and why am I special? | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | someone else does it too | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | but i can't remember who it was | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | I just have the android G+ app | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | I have never intended to do anything with the messenger thing at all | 21:29 |
| ali1234 | g+ uses the same chat as gmail | 21:29 |
| ali1234 | which is also a stand alone app on android | 21:29 |
| AlanBell | I don't even know how to go offline on the mobile client, can't see any kind of status setting thing | 21:29 |
| AlanBell | what indicator queue do I fill up? | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | you know, notify osd? | 21:31 |
| AlanBell | oh, from empathy notifications? | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | from pidgin notifications | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | i don't use empathy | 21:31 |
| AlanBell | ok | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | but yeah... every time someone goes away | 21:31 |
| popey | i use the web io | 21:31 |
| popey | er | 21:31 |
| popey | ui | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | it shows a message for 5 seconds | 21:32 |
| AlanBell | what web UI? | 21:32 |
| popey | in gmail and G+ | 21:32 |
| popey | i have both in separate tabs | 21:32 |
| popey | so when someone pings me it generally pings both | 21:32 |
| ali1234 | 100 * 5 = nearly 10 minutes worth of notifications, because it's a queue and they all have same priority | 21:32 |
| popey | i can choose to answer in either and it keeps both in sync which is neat | 21:32 |
| ali1234 | that also blocks all other same priority notifications, essentially a denial of service attack :) | 21:32 |
| AlanBell | but those look like a different list of people to what I have in the mobile client | 21:33 |
| ali1234 | the list is a little bit weird but it is the same protocol | 21:33 |
| popey | yes, its an option in G+ | 21:33 |
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| penguin42 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/27/adobe_cert_revoked/ oops | 23:50 |
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