[00:16] <stlsaint> lol shaft
[00:16] <stlsaint> thafreak: toughmudder.com
[00:27] <jrgifford> paultag: so stable, testing or sid?
[00:27] <jrgifford> nope, not going to OLF. wasn't able to schedule it this time. :\
[00:27] <jrgifford> someday!
[00:27] <paultag> jrgifford: I (personally) encurage use of unstable for a few reasons
[00:28] <paultag> jrgifford: but testing is perfectly OK
[00:28] <paultag> I run experimental >:)
[00:28] <paultag> (sekret distro)
[00:28] <jrgifford> paultag: sweet. torrenting the iso now, time to get me a copy of sid. :D
[00:28] <paultag> \o/
[00:28] <paultag> jrgifford: if you need some help, or want to contribute there too, let me know!
[00:29] <jrgifford> i need a OS that runs on my laptop that serves as a glorfied virtualbox hypervisor. :P
[00:29] <paultag> ah, cool :)
[00:29] <jrgifford> and debian seems to fit the bill.
[00:29] <paultag> there's some newfangled php front-end, btw
[00:29] <paultag> so you can put it on a server and kick up machines via the web
[00:30] <paultag> but that sounds like it's outside of what you're trying to do :)
[00:30] <jrgifford> if i'm going to do that, then i'll just use esxi
[00:30] <paultag> http://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/
[00:30] <jrgifford> and yes. :)
[00:30] <paultag> but look! http://phpvirtualbox.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/images/phpvbsm.png
[00:30]  * paultag gets back to learning clojure
[00:31] <jrgifford> i know. ;P
[00:37] <jrgifford> paultag: i'd assume the best way to get debian testing for a laptop would be to download the netinst iso, right?
[00:37] <paultag> jrgifford: yep
[00:37] <paultag> and from there, you can upgrade to sid, if you wish
[00:38] <jrgifford> that way i'm not really limited by the stuff on the cd, and i can at least attempt to get drivers for my trackpad. ;P
[00:38] <paultag> which machine?
[00:38] <jrgifford> thinkpad t61
[00:38] <paultag> works OTB
[00:38] <paultag> thinkpads are well supported, considering most every DD I know has one
[00:38] <jrgifford> sweet. didn't in fedora rawhide last week. ;P
[00:38] <paultag> and esp the T6
[00:38] <paultag> erm, T61
[00:39] <paultag> that's like the AK-47 of laptops
[00:39] <jrgifford> awesome. thanks for the help.
[00:39] <paultag> np
[00:39] <jrgifford> hahah, yeah. the joke at work is you can murder someone with it, and use it to write your confession afterwards. :D
[00:39] <paultag> hahaha yep :)
[00:40] <paultag> proud [BI really want the X1-Carbon
[00:40] <paultag> bah, fucking irssi
[00:41] <paultag> but the power adapt -- no love.
[00:43] <jrgifford> the X1 looks sweeetttt.
[00:43] <paultag> totes
[00:43] <jrgifford> hadn't thought about the power adapter
[00:44] <paultag> I've got about 5 of them
[00:44] <paultag> and it's really nice to not carry them around
[00:44] <jrgifford> yeah, three of the guys at work have various thinkpads
[00:44] <jrgifford> if i forget my charger, i know i can just borrow theirs for an hour, and then send it back to them, and i can make it through the day.
[00:44] <jrgifford> and vice versa.
[00:44] <paultag> and I was planning my future condo's power situation by bundling USB hubs, CAT6 and a ThinkPad power guy in about 4 tables, with one for each seat
[00:45] <jrgifford> hahah. :D
[00:45] <paultag> it makes my life suck so much less
[00:45] <paultag> GOOG has that setup going, and it's great
[00:45] <paultag> (without USB)
[00:45] <jrgifford> i can imagine.
[00:45] <paultag> just drop into a conf' room and plug in
[00:45] <paultag> but alas
[00:45] <paultag> the X1-Carbon
[00:45] <paultag> how I hate tee
[00:45] <paultag> thee*
[00:46] <paultag> brb shower
[00:46] <jrgifford> so you're saying the X series power adapter is different from the t*?
[00:46] <paultag> jrgifford: I assume so
[00:46] <jrgifford> :(
[00:46] <jrgifford> ok.
[00:46] <paultag> jrgifford: consider the barrel is about 2x larger then the width of the machine
[00:46] <paultag> not to mention it looks square from the photos
[00:46] <jrgifford> true
[00:46] <paultag> brb shower
[00:47] <jrgifford> k, cya in a bit
[01:11] <jrgifford> well, part 1 has been fun
[01:11] <jrgifford> had to get into busybox and chroot my way into /target
[01:11] <jrgifford> tasksel was acting odd
[01:17] <jrgifford> ugh. i think i'll just need to stick with my 10.04 install for my glofified hypervisor. :\
[01:17] <jrgifford> need to run through the install a few times in a VM before I do it in the hardware.
[01:18] <paultag> jrgifford: what the fuck
[01:18] <paultag> RE: 21:11 <+jrgifford> had to get into busybox and chroot my way into /target
[01:18] <paultag> never once had to do that
[01:18] <paultag> ever
[01:18] <paultag> oh because of tasksel
[01:18] <jrgifford> paultag: i'll figure it out, just don't have time to spend more time today. :P
[01:18] <paultag> what was it doing?
[01:18] <jrgifford> was telling me i had unmet dependencies
[01:18] <paultag> yeah, I mean, if Ubuntu works
[01:18] <paultag> jrgifford: o.O
[01:18] <paultag> jrgifford: please write down the error and report it
[01:19] <jrgifford> chrooted, selected the same packages, and it worked
[01:19] <paultag> jrgifford: it's a big problem, we're frozen, shit like that shouldn't happen
[01:19] <jrgifford> oh
[01:19] <jrgifford> i think i was running off an outdated mirror
[01:19] <paultag> ahh.
[01:20] <jrgifford> hangon, let me try a different one
[01:20] <paultag> still
[01:20] <paultag> (but that would explain the issue)
[01:20] <paultag> stale mirrors are the bane of everyone's setups right now, you should use http.debian.net
[01:20] <paultag> it's legit.
[01:20] <paultag> automagically finds the fastest mirror
[01:22] <jrgifford> yeah, i was using an outdated mirror
[01:22] <jrgifford> lovely. ;P
[01:22] <paultag> bleh
[01:22] <paultag> http.d.n rocks
[01:22]  * jrgifford will keep that in mind
[01:22]  * canthus13 yawns.
[20:10] <Unit193> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/09/27/code-of-conduct-v2-request-for-feedback/  Sure everyone has seen this by now.
[21:53] <gilbert_> paultag: what's the plan 4 saturday?
[22:15] <Cheri703> Woo! Conference pack, CDs, and Ubuntu Women stuff has all arrived at casa itsafork! So he'll be bringing all of that and the banner!