| holstein | darn... i missed talking FloatingGoat out of that honer | 03:06 |
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| Unit193 | Never heard of, only players in the family are sis and mom (2 out of 5 ;) ) | 03:12 |
| len-dt | holstein, the one Hohner guitar I have (The Jack) , Has fret placement problems.. the intonation moves all the way up the fretboard... back and forth. It is fine at fret 12 and open, but G is way sharp for example. | 03:36 |
| len-dt | A is better... you get the idea. | 03:37 |
| holstein | yeah, honer is not great quality for strings... | 03:37 |
| holstein | i think there is better value out there | 03:37 |
| holstein | len-dt: how's it sound otherwise? decent? | 03:37 |
| drupin | my usb install was freez when running local server and google chrome.... system info here http://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/ | 07:29 |
| holstein | drupin: at a glance, i would start looking into the via chip support.. maybe forcing vesa | 15:22 |
| holstein | drupin: i would take the USB stick to another machine to test that the install is working fine | 15:22 |
| hypnocat | when i do an "apt-get update", i see a bunch of messages like: | 17:48 |
| hypnocat | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/multiverse i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) | 17:48 |
| hypnocat | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 17:48 |
| hypnocat | but when i re-run "apt-get update", i get the same warnings | 17:49 |
| hypnocat | any suggestions on how i could fix this? | 17:49 |
| holstein | hypnocat: first thing i would check is PPA's that have been added | 18:06 |
| holstein | 2nd thing i would do is check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/183007/duplicate-sources-list-entries | 18:07 |
| holstein | sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.* is suggested, and seems apppropriate | 18:07 |
| hypnocat | how do i check what PPA's have been added? and what are PPA's? | 18:09 |
| holstein | hypnocat: if you didnt add any, then there likely arent any | 18:12 |
| holstein | !ppa | hypnocat | 18:12 |
| ubottu | hypnocat: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 18:12 |
| hypnocat | thanks | 18:12 |
| holstein | usually breakages occure due to adding those | 18:12 |
| hypnocat | i didn't add anything | 18:12 |
| holstein | hypnocat: that link i gave should explain how to deal with your issue | 18:12 |
| hypnocat | i get the above errors when running "apt-get update" from the ubuntu studio livecd as soon as it's booted | 18:12 |
| hypnocat | without making any changes tothe system | 18:13 |
| hypnocat | thanks | 18:13 |
| holstein | hypnocat: i wouldnt run apt-get update | 18:13 |
| holstein | not on the live CD | 18:13 |
| hypnocat | oh? | 18:13 |
| holstein | i would do minimal package management from the live CD.. though that link should explain how to deal with what you are experiencing | 18:14 |
| hypnocat | alright, thank you | 18:14 |
| holstein | im not saying you shouldnt install things in the live environment.. but you will have issues | 18:15 |
| holstein | i mean, what if you update the package list? and you need to install a bunch of libs? | 18:15 |
| holstein | or update the kernel? | 18:15 |
| holstein | at some point you might hit something that requires a reboot | 18:15 |
| holstein | the live environment is just that.. and should really be used mostly "as-is" or as testing | 18:15 |
| holstein | if you want a live USB stick, i say, just go ahead and install.. do a normal installation to the stic putting grub on it | 18:16 |
| holstein | you can also do your own live CD | 18:16 |
| hypnocat | well, i just wanted to get the latest versions of the various apps that are available | 18:19 |
| holstein | hypnocat: sure, but every time? | 18:19 |
| hypnocat | every time i use the livcd, sure | 18:19 |
| holstein | hypnocat: i wouldnt bother just for the live CD.. not everytime its booted up | 18:19 |
| hypnocat | i don't do it often, mind you | 18:20 |
| holstein | that could be a big upload each time | 18:20 |
| hypnocat | but sometimes i need to use the livcd, and then it'd be nice to have the newest apps | 18:20 |
| hypnocat | it's not that big a download | 18:20 |
| holstein | best case scenario, you spend 20 to 30 minutes getting new apps that dont require a reboot | 18:20 |
| holstein | hypnocat: it'll get bigger as the packages get older | 18:20 |
| hypnocat | true.. but then there'll be a new version of ubuntu studio | 18:20 |
| holstein | hypnocat: you can always try the dailies | 18:21 |
| holstein | hypnocat: i will use the LTS | 18:21 |
| hypnocat | what's LTS? | 18:21 |
| holstein | though i will test the 12.10 and others | 18:21 |
| holstein | hypnocat: long term support | 18:21 |
| hypnocat | ah | 18:21 |
| hypnocat | i'm using 12.04.1 now | 18:21 |
| holstein | im still using ubuntustudio 10.04 on my studio rig | 18:21 |
| holstein | thought i test the other versions as time permits | 18:22 |
| holstein | just as you want the latest packages, i just want things to work | 18:22 |
| hypnocat | i haer you | 18:22 |
| hypnocat | hear | 18:22 |
| holstein | i will move to 12.04 though | 18:22 |
| hypnocat | i'd like the newest stuff.. but when it doesn't work, i'll settle for older stuff that does | 18:22 |
| holstein | still, just make your own live CD>. or just install to USB... i wouldnt expect big system upgrades to work well on the live CD | 18:23 |
| holstein | i mean, maybe you want to try a different jack version.. or a particular app upgrade.. still, there wont be big changes in the 12.04 version | 18:23 |
| holstein | those updates are mostly frozen to just security upgrades or whatever | 18:23 |
| holstein | running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on a live 12.04 cd wont get you the latest and greatest.. it'll just get you the updates to the current versions | 18:24 |
| holstein | fixes mostly | 18:24 |
| holstein | i would just download a daily every now and then | 18:24 |
| hypnocat | hmm | 18:26 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ | 18:26 |
| holstein | that will be the most current versions mostly | 18:27 |
| holstein | even some of those will be older than the most newest available | 18:27 |
| holstein | ardour is a great example | 18:28 |
| holstein | we are shipping an older version that just has fixes... and the ardour team is working on 3.x | 18:28 |
| holstein | you wont see 3.x in ubuntustudio for a while... til its stable | 18:28 |
| holstein | you can apt-get update all day in any live ubuntu cd and never get anything ardour has produced recently | 18:29 |
| hypnocat | i see | 18:31 |
| hypnocat | hmm.. i think i may have run in to a small problem while trying to install libjack-dev.. | 18:40 |
| hypnocat | http://pastie.org/4831072 | 18:40 |
| hypnocat | whoops | 18:47 |
| hypnocat | my fault | 18:47 |
| hypnocat | i didn't realize that ubuntu-studio was using libjack-jackd2 | 18:47 |
| hypnocat | and that i therefore needed to install libjack-jackd2-dev, not libjack-dev | 18:47 |
| hypnocat | installing libjack-jackd2-dev worked | 18:48 |
| joebar | Hi people , i've got a question , is it possible to use two audio driver at the same time ? | 19:41 |
| ailo | joebar: By audio driver, do you actually mean sound system? | 19:44 |
| ailo | joebar: You can use PA, jack and alsa all at the same time | 19:44 |
| ailo | Depending on how you do it | 19:44 |
| ailo | You can always use them with different cards, at the same time | 19:45 |
| ailo | PA can be connected to jack | 19:45 |
| ailo | When PA is connected to jack, PA is not using any audio card, so you can have both PA and jack running on one card | 19:45 |
| joebar | no I mean , when I use wine with the ASIO driver , I can't hear any other sound from anywhere , I mean , if I use my audio production program , I can't hear sounds from video or media player | 19:48 |
| joebar | so I'm asking if it is possible to run two drivers at the same time and if not , is there a driver that I could use for both aplications | 19:50 |
| joebar | nvm i figured it out | 20:06 |
| joebar | tnx anyway | 20:06 |
| len-dt | hypnocat, holstein, the message about two sets of PPAs is normal when running a live ISO. This is because the DVD/ISO has a second set or copy of some of the things. This normally goes away after the install and reboot to disk. Otherwise it seems not to affect anything. | 21:52 |
| len-dt | holstein, The hohner "Jack" seems to be a cheaply made instrument. It is neck though and headless. | 21:53 |
| len-dt | I replaced the bridge pickup right off because one of the cheap plastic mount tabs was broken... I put an S/D in. The two neck PUs are ok sounding though. The bridge is a cheap knockoff of the steinberger that I could never get to stay in tune, so I have made it as solid as I can... no more whammy. | 21:56 |
| len-dt | basically, if I had money, I would replace it.... if I was playing it for gigs, I would replace it even if I couldn't afford it. It is ok for playing around with and for gigging... with lots of patience to make sure it stays at one temperature as that affects tuning too. | 21:59 |
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