[03:06] darn... i missed talking FloatingGoat out of that honer [03:12] Never heard of, only players in the family are sis and mom (2 out of 5 ;) ) [03:36] holstein, the one Hohner guitar I have (The Jack) , Has fret placement problems.. the intonation moves all the way up the fretboard... back and forth. It is fine at fret 12 and open, but G is way sharp for example. [03:37] A is better... you get the idea. [03:37] yeah, honer is not great quality for strings... [03:37] i think there is better value out there [03:37] len-dt: how's it sound otherwise? decent? [07:29] my usb install was freez when running local server and google chrome.... system info here http://jsbin.com/isiguk/1/ [15:22] drupin: at a glance, i would start looking into the via chip support.. maybe forcing vesa [15:22] drupin: i would take the USB stick to another machine to test that the install is working fine [17:48] when i do an "apt-get update", i see a bunch of messages like: [17:48] W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/multiverse i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) [17:48] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [17:49] but when i re-run "apt-get update", i get the same warnings [17:49] any suggestions on how i could fix this? [18:06] hypnocat: first thing i would check is PPA's that have been added [18:07] 2nd thing i would do is check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/183007/duplicate-sources-list-entries [18:07] sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.* is suggested, and seems apppropriate [18:09] how do i check what PPA's have been added? and what are PPA's? [18:12] hypnocat: if you didnt add any, then there likely arent any [18:12] !ppa | hypnocat [18:12] hypnocat: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [18:12] thanks [18:12] usually breakages occure due to adding those [18:12] i didn't add anything [18:12] hypnocat: that link i gave should explain how to deal with your issue [18:12] i get the above errors when running "apt-get update" from the ubuntu studio livecd as soon as it's booted [18:13] without making any changes tothe system [18:13] thanks [18:13] hypnocat: i wouldnt run apt-get update [18:13] not on the live CD [18:13] oh? [18:14] i would do minimal package management from the live CD.. though that link should explain how to deal with what you are experiencing [18:14] alright, thank you [18:15] im not saying you shouldnt install things in the live environment.. but you will have issues [18:15] i mean, what if you update the package list? and you need to install a bunch of libs? [18:15] or update the kernel? [18:15] at some point you might hit something that requires a reboot [18:15] the live environment is just that.. and should really be used mostly "as-is" or as testing [18:16] if you want a live USB stick, i say, just go ahead and install.. do a normal installation to the stic putting grub on it [18:16] you can also do your own live CD [18:19] well, i just wanted to get the latest versions of the various apps that are available [18:19] hypnocat: sure, but every time? [18:19] every time i use the livcd, sure [18:19] hypnocat: i wouldnt bother just for the live CD.. not everytime its booted up [18:20] i don't do it often, mind you [18:20] that could be a big upload each time [18:20] but sometimes i need to use the livcd, and then it'd be nice to have the newest apps [18:20] it's not that big a download [18:20] best case scenario, you spend 20 to 30 minutes getting new apps that dont require a reboot [18:20] hypnocat: it'll get bigger as the packages get older [18:20] true.. but then there'll be a new version of ubuntu studio [18:21] hypnocat: you can always try the dailies [18:21] hypnocat: i will use the LTS [18:21] what's LTS? [18:21] though i will test the 12.10 and others [18:21] hypnocat: long term support [18:21] ah [18:21] i'm using 12.04.1 now [18:21] im still using ubuntustudio 10.04 on my studio rig [18:22] thought i test the other versions as time permits [18:22] just as you want the latest packages, i just want things to work [18:22] i haer you [18:22] hear [18:22] i will move to 12.04 though [18:22] i'd like the newest stuff.. but when it doesn't work, i'll settle for older stuff that does [18:23] still, just make your own live CD>. or just install to USB... i wouldnt expect big system upgrades to work well on the live CD [18:23] i mean, maybe you want to try a different jack version.. or a particular app upgrade.. still, there wont be big changes in the 12.04 version [18:23] those updates are mostly frozen to just security upgrades or whatever [18:24] running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on a live 12.04 cd wont get you the latest and greatest.. it'll just get you the updates to the current versions [18:24] fixes mostly [18:24] i would just download a daily every now and then [18:26] hmm [18:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ [18:27] that will be the most current versions mostly [18:27] even some of those will be older than the most newest available [18:28] ardour is a great example [18:28] we are shipping an older version that just has fixes... and the ardour team is working on 3.x [18:28] you wont see 3.x in ubuntustudio for a while... til its stable [18:29] you can apt-get update all day in any live ubuntu cd and never get anything ardour has produced recently [18:31] i see [18:40] hmm.. i think i may have run in to a small problem while trying to install libjack-dev.. [18:40] http://pastie.org/4831072 [18:47] whoops [18:47] my fault [18:47] i didn't realize that ubuntu-studio was using libjack-jackd2 [18:47] and that i therefore needed to install libjack-jackd2-dev, not libjack-dev [18:48] installing libjack-jackd2-dev worked [19:41] Hi people , i've got a question , is it possible to use two audio driver at the same time ? [19:44] joebar: By audio driver, do you actually mean sound system? [19:44] joebar: You can use PA, jack and alsa all at the same time [19:44] Depending on how you do it [19:45] You can always use them with different cards, at the same time [19:45] PA can be connected to jack [19:45] When PA is connected to jack, PA is not using any audio card, so you can have both PA and jack running on one card [19:48] no I mean , when I use wine with the ASIO driver , I can't hear any other sound from anywhere , I mean , if I use my audio production program , I can't hear sounds from video or media player [19:50] so I'm asking if it is possible to run two drivers at the same time and if not , is there a driver that I could use for both aplications [20:06] nvm i figured it out [20:06] tnx anyway [21:52] hypnocat, holstein, the message about two sets of PPAs is normal when running a live ISO. This is because the DVD/ISO has a second set or copy of some of the things. This normally goes away after the install and reboot to disk. Otherwise it seems not to affect anything. [21:53] holstein, The hohner "Jack" seems to be a cheaply made instrument. It is neck though and headless. [21:56] I replaced the bridge pickup right off because one of the cheap plastic mount tabs was broken... I put an S/D in. The two neck PUs are ok sounding though. The bridge is a cheap knockoff of the steinberger that I could never get to stay in tune, so I have made it as solid as I can... no more whammy. [21:59] basically, if I had money, I would replace it.... if I was playing it for gigs, I would replace it even if I couldn't afford it. It is ok for playing around with and for gigging... with lots of patience to make sure it stays at one temperature as that affects tuning too.