[01:27] hello all [01:27] Question [01:27] I am interesting in becoming doing kubuntu packaging, which guide would be best to read pertaining that [02:57] can anyone please tell me how to checkout/fetch a project using its git URL inside Kdevelop4? [07:26] I noticed that in ubiquity kde frontend some strings are not translatable [07:26] e.g., in PartAuto.py [07:27] I think I can fix those, but I need some guidance in what to do with the ones in .ui files [07:27] how are the strings in .ui files in ubiquity becoming translatable? [08:51] pkt: I think there's a route that goes over all the strings and translates them [08:52] Riddell: there is "debconf updatepo" if you mean this [08:53] but I 'm asking something different. How do strings in .ui files become translatable [08:53] in python code I see get_string() used [08:53] but in the .ui files what is the equivalent? [08:54] should be in translate_pages() and translate_widgets() in kde_ui.py [08:55] text = self.get_string(name, lang, prefix) [08:55] "name" is the widgetName which matches the name of the string needed in debconf [08:55] but there's a bunch of special cases there for various widgets which don't do that [08:56] hmm I see, maybe this is the problem then [08:56] at least this gives me a starting point :) === drdanz is now known as woshibot [10:45] !find media9.sty [10:46] File media9.sty found in texlive-latex-extra [11:05] ok so it seems that one case the reason for untranslatable strings is that get_string() needs to be defined [11:05] (ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py) [11:05] and in others it is just missing debconf templates [11:05] does it not work at all there? [11:05] yes, pyflakes says it is undefined [11:06] when I copy&pasted the implementation it works [11:06] (I mean when I copied the implementation of get_string() to this file it works) [11:06] surely it would cause a bracktrace if it was undefined [11:06] it wasn't being ran [11:06] for this reason [11:06] it was commented out [11:06] mm [11:07] thus the strings stayed untranslatable [11:07] you can check yourself in ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py [11:07] the versions with get_string() are commented out and have a TODO on top [11:08] these are 2 of the 5 untranslatable strings [11:08] the other 3 were just missing templates I think [11:08] I will test it in a few minutes === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:29] Howdy all [11:30] hi [11:30] hi Riddell [11:30] and everyone [11:36] shadeslayer: feeling better? [11:37] a bit, my eyes still hurt from looking at the screen :P [11:38] * shadeslayer wil most likely be back to work till tomorrow [11:47] ok guys , can you settle a small debate , ...is kde 4.9.1 in the regular repos now or does it still require the backports? [11:47] still requires backports for Precise [11:47] It will never make it into the archives because we only release bug fix updates for precise [11:49] shadeslayer: Can you look at my problem in 12.10 while shutting down that I mentioned in #kubuntu, against which package should I report that bug? [11:49] When sutting down from menu , the screen gets blurred, if I click somewhere the blur vanishes and I can use the system as if no shutdown was done, however if I press enter while the screen is blurred it shutsdown. === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [11:55] ah [11:55] konqui: I believe that the shutdown dialog is not shown [11:56] are you using some 3rd party plasma theme? [11:56] shadeslayer: No I'm using air of course [11:57] konqui: this should appear ideally ( different theme ) : http://i.imgur.com/FZo95.png [11:57] can you check if kde-workspace is installed? [11:59] shadeslayer: Its installed, I got the dialogue on 4.9.1 on precise. I installed quantal beta 2, all updates and only vlc, google-chrome and aptitude installed. [11:59] that's ... odd [12:02] And also, I have customised lightdm and changed its background in system settings if that could be related [12:02] konqui: can you logout, switch to a tty, mv .kde .kde_bak , login and try shutting down [12:03] ( the mighty google suggests it might be a config issue ) [12:03] Hmm I'll try [12:05] ::qt-bugs:: [1058058] webkit ftbfs on armel and armhf @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058058 (by Matthias Klose) [12:05] Launchpad bug 1058058 in webkit (Ubuntu) "webkit ftbfs on armel and armhf" [High,Confirmed] [12:08] hmm ... who's coming to UDS from the US? [12:09] shadeslayer: Same issue [12:10] 0.o [12:10] But I just noticed that I see the dialog if desktop effects are turned off [12:10] ohh [12:12] Now tried with desktop effects on and logout effect off and it works. Strange as it worked on 12.04 with 4.9.1 [12:13] Martin might have a idea [12:13] but he's not around [12:15] konqui: #kwin would be the best place since it's a kwin component [12:15] s/component/issue [12:18] bbl === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:03] What's the debug package for /usr/bin/plasma-desktop ? I have it crashed but cannot find the debug package. I'm using Kubuntu Backports PPA [14:04] int_ua: should be kde-workspace-dbg [14:06] tsimpson: Thanks, looks like the right one. 870 Mb... =( [14:09] yeah, it's more than just the plasma debugging stuff [14:20] most likely pulls in qt dbg and what not [14:21] yeah, it is [14:22] it may be >800MB, but just think of those lovely full stack traces! :) [14:23] ^ [14:23] In the end, it's going to be worth ut [14:23] *it [14:24] let's hope so :) [14:25] BTW, it's reproducible. If anyone has xchat, try minimizing it to tray multiple time really fast [14:25] s/time/times/ [14:25] int_ua meant: "BTW, it's reproducible. If anyone has xchat, try minimizing it to tray multiple times really fast" [14:28] xchat and Kubuntu Backport PPA anyone? [14:30] do I *have* to install xchat :( [14:31] tsimpson, shadeslayer: Nope, /usr/bin/plasma-desktop still don't have the debug symbols [14:31] but a lot of other libs disappeared from the list [14:32] oh, and the second one is /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_menubar.so [14:32] so I guess we'll need xchat + menubar + Backports [14:34] I don't think there are any debugging symbols for plasma-widget-menubar [14:36] * int_ua is sad [14:36] So what should I do, tsimpson? [14:38] get the best trace you can for now I suppose [14:38] either that, or grab the source and compile yourself, without stripping [14:39] int_ua: should I be minimizing to the systray? [14:39] there are debugging symbols for that, you need the ddebs.u.c repository [14:39] micahg: doesn't work with PPAs [14:39] ah, yeah, right [14:40] works just fine on Neon btw [14:40] yes, to the systray, clicking on the icon in the systray [14:40] Neon? [14:40] yeah, working fine [14:40] Project Neon :) [14:40] !neon [14:40] Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon [14:40] :D [14:40] We're so awesome we now have a factoid? Cool! [14:40] How unstable is it? [14:41] int_ua: it's basically packages from git [14:41] installed to /opt/project-neon [14:41] see the link :) [14:41] so it's like nitroglycerine [14:41] prettymuch [14:42] dangerous, sure. but so much FUN to play with! [14:42] ok, trying to report with current backtrace [14:42] actually, tbh, I've never had a crash with Neon [14:42] unless I screwed my code :P [14:43] =D [14:45] I have to leave, is this channel logged? [14:45] yep [14:45] !logs [14:45] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [14:46] thanks again [15:22] ::qt-bugs:: [1053166] 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ftbfs on armel/armhf @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1053166 (by Matthias Klose) [15:22] Launchpad bug 1053166 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Quantal) "4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ftbfs on armel/armhf" [High,Fix released] === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [17:07] tsimpson: plasma-widget-menubar has debugging symbols in plasma-widget-menubar-dbgsym - read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [17:13] !ninjas | 4.9.2 tarballs available. [17:13] 4.9.2 tarballs available.: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [17:17] golly [17:39] quite [17:39] anything done for 4.9.2? === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [17:40] I just got back home from uni stuff [17:40] bulldog98: Feel free to take something. I'll make a tea and start something too [17:43] do we have a known working version of the upload scripts? [17:44] Did we ever have upload scripts? [17:44] * Quintasan never seen them [17:44] you weren't around for a while ^^ [17:44] search debfx's kubuntu-automation [17:44] if it's not working it is certainly fixable [17:45] debfx: the packages dropped kde-sc-dev-latest, so the deps need to be bumped individually [17:45] I've got some script snippets somewhere that I used for the rebuild, give me a minute [17:46] KDE 4.9.2? has that even been tagged yet? [17:46] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yofel/+junk/rebuildstuff/files [17:47] shadeslayer: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-release-team&m=134885176923212&w=2 [17:48] wait what [17:48] is kde-packagers now officially deprecated? I only saw it as I'm on the release-team ML as well [17:48] why was that not released to kde-packagers? [17:48] and ignore it most of the time [17:48] I guess the new guy who posted that doesn't even know about kde-packagers [17:49] shadeslayer: upstream has the opinion that packagers are part of the release team, so should read their ML as well it seems [17:49] hm [17:49] that's one more ML I get to subscribe to, yay [17:49] what Riddell said probably too, new name to me at least [17:49] well .. I've worked with Torgny before [17:50] he setup build.kde.org to use my old laptop as a build save [17:50] hehe [17:50] unfourtunately, it died [17:51] yofel_: so we need a hardcoded list of build-deps to bump? :/ === skreech__ is now known as Daskreech [17:52] debfx: well, it's the list that kde-sc-dev-latest had - i.e. the former yellow packages on our wiki. If you've got a better idea I'm open for suggestions [17:52] * shadeslayer waves fist at KNotify [17:52] I couldn't think of anything else that wouldn't produce false-positives === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:53] which reminds me.. [17:53] yofel_: right, having to keep these in sync is what I don't like [17:53] btw how to get that kubuntu-automation working? [17:53] I think we need to review the build-deps and check whether all actually have a versioned build-dep right now [17:53] some packages just relied on kde-sc-dev-latest I believe [17:55] yeah, that's what it's for [17:55] I should have added versioned build-dep wherever kde-sc-dev-latest was used [17:55] bulldog98: it's still a bit experimental, lack of documentation is one issue [17:57] I think you missed some things like libksane or so in some cases. Not sure, I just took a quick look at the control files when I was writing my rebuild script [17:57] although, those have good ABI management so shouldn't even break [17:59] what I'm worried about is stuff like #ifdef VERSION >= XZ [17:59] good point [18:01] where is our packaging gone? [18:01] I can’t find kde4libs bzr branch [18:01] lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ ? [18:02] it's called kdelibs [18:02] and use kbzr [18:02] ah right to long that I haven’t build a package [18:03] but it's best to do it en-masse [18:03] do we have a new automation for that? [18:03] throw them all into the ninjas PPA and wait for it to compile and use debfx's script to parse the output [18:03] that's what some part of kubuntu-automation did I think [18:03] Riddell: hm kgetsource isn’t working anymore and I don’t know why [18:04] Riddell: link to the script please [18:04] shadeslayer did the 4.9.1 update so he should know all about it :) [18:04] debfx's stuff is in https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/+junk/kubuntu-automation [18:05] anyone who does use the script please put some documentation on the ninja pad [18:05] http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas [18:05] debfx: did you fix the version parsing? [18:05] yofel: I think so, testing right now [18:06] bulldog98: please wait until he's done ^ [18:06] hm? [18:06] I did the backport update [18:09] grrr [18:09] all the branches still have UNRELEASED in the changelog [18:09] apachelogger: ^ [18:10] debfx: run sed over it? [18:10] he'll still have to checkout all ~100 of them... [18:10] and if that wasn't enough, kdegames will add ~40 [18:11] :P [18:12] and I do believe that there's a high chance that some entries might not have been released [18:12] so you'll have to be carefull with the sed [18:12] just limit sed to the first line [18:12] yeah [18:13] btw why do I get Permission denied (publickey) after running python kdesc-package-names 4.9.2 [18:13] I mean I can ssh into that maschine [18:14] probably wrong username then. [18:14] yofel: http://i.imgur.com/NXOGi.jpg [18:14] of course the date in the changelog is wrong too ... [18:14] lawl [18:15] shadeslayer: wannahave :D [18:15] yofel: http://theprofoundprogrammer.com/store [18:15] ScottK: it’s sftp [18:15] debfx: I personally am not particulary happy with the dch behaviour in quantal :( [18:15] Still need the right username. [18:15] yofel: only 10 USD xD [18:15] plus 5 USD shipping I guess [18:16] yofel: has it changed? [18:16] shadeslayer: runtime error is also good [18:16] updating the date before uploading a package seems useful to me [18:16] debfx: simple 'dch' does not edit the date, you need to run 'dch -r' to "finalize" an entry which will update the date [18:16] bulldog98: my favorite one is http://i.imgur.com/NYKQ8.jpg [18:17] * yofel NEVER uses -r [18:17] hm ScottK how does debfx has to change that line subprocess.Popen(["sftp", "-b", "-", "ftpmaster.kde.org:/home/ftpubuntu/%s/%s/src/" % (stability, version)], stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE) [18:17] shadeslayer: good one [18:17] bulldog98: ftpubuntu@ftpmaster ? [18:18] or you'll need to set it in .ssh/config [18:18] hah [18:18] bulldog98: set your username in ~/.ssh/config [18:18] something like : Host bazaar.launchpad.net [18:18] User rohangarg [18:18] ah yes I have all my usernames configured in the ssh config [18:18] bulldog98: What they said. [18:19] debfx: please change that so nobody has to make configs^ [18:19] ScottK: hm ok [18:19] uh ... why? [18:19] sooo, anyone feels like syncing our branches with the archive? :) [18:19] shadeslayer: hm or at least document it :P [18:20] debfx: grunt work :( [18:20] debfx: guess I could script something [18:20] bulldog98: fix it in your .ssh/config. It'll save you grief later. [18:20] ScottK: done [18:20] or well ... something like pull-lp-source foobar; cp -aR foobar-4.9.1/debian foobar/ [18:21] bzr commit and bzr push :P [18:21] shadeslayer: I won't mind if you want to do it ;P [18:22] aand don't forget to tag [18:22] yeah except for packages where there are additional changes staged in the branch [18:22] debfx: that's what I'm concerned about [18:22] -.- [18:22] true [18:22] are there any changes staged? [18:22] I don't know [18:22] You'll need to look at the diffs [18:22] blergh [18:23] would be good to parse bzr status to make sure only the changelog is different [18:24] debfx: I have added a README for kubuntu-automation get it from lp:~bulldog98/+junk/kubuntu-automation [18:24] could we maybe just make kubuntu-automation be owned by kubuntu-packagers? [18:24] or that [18:47] debfx: you changed the arguments of ['pull-ninjas-source', '-d', 'analitza', 'quantal'] it should be the other way around [18:49] why is that? [18:51] ah, the version in kubuntu-dev-tools doesn't support -d yet? [18:52] sorry the -d is obsolete, cause it tells me: Usage: pull-ninjas-source [18:52] debfx: yep [18:53] bulldog98: ok, should be fixed now in dev-tools [18:54] hm also the tool complains if a path already exists like upload [19:03] yofel: -dbgsym isn't generated for PPAs [19:05] tsimpson: plasma-widget-menubar isn't in any of our PPA's [19:06] so unless he uses a widget from somewhere else, he uses the archive package [19:06] hmm, so you're right [19:18] Riddell: how many partitions have you tried to add for testing #1038522 ? [19:18] s/#/bug #/ [19:18] bulldog98 meant: "Riddell: how many partitions have you tried to add for testing bug #1038522 ?" [19:55] bulldog98: not enough I guess [19:55] hm for me it crashes with around 10 partitions [19:56] yeah that's about what the bug reports say [20:06] Riddell: maybe you should free about 10G and create there partitions o mass [20:06] :P [20:29] I'm getting an odd thing with the task manager since yesterday. The left-most item on the tray will suddenly be overlaid onto the right-most item. The spot the left item used to occupy is blan but the same width as if it was still there. I was trying to get a screenshot but of course when I open ksnapshot for instance, they all rearrange on the bar again. [20:36] genii-around: I was getting that since like KDE 4.6 - I think there's even a bug for it somewhere. Today I use the icon only taskmanager [20:39] genii-around: kde bug 302905 at least, possibly others [20:39] KDE bug 302905 in widget-taskbar "Task Manager Widget shows icons superimposed and in wrong locations" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302905 [20:39] Ah,OK [20:40] genii-around: mine is kde bug 290598 [20:40] KDE bug 290598 in widget-taskbar "taskbar entries sometimes slide wrongly when an application is closed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290598 [20:41] Guess I'll switch to the icon-only taskmanager too then. [21:34] I've been having an issue with the netbook interface on Kubuntu 12.10. Plasma Netbook crashes when I try to switch from Search and Launch to Page one. [21:34] Has anyone seen something similar? [21:35] if you have a backtrace, please report it on bugs.kde.org [21:35] if not, get one [21:45] I've failed to get a backtrace. I'll try again to see if I can get it to fail with an error. [21:47] you most likely need the debug symbols :) [21:56] Which packages do I need for the debug symbols? [22:20] shadeslayer: ping [22:20] Quintasan: tired pong [22:20] shadeslayer: You've got an NVidia card? [22:21] Quintasan: I have another laptop that has one [22:21] shadeslayer: quantal on it? [22:21] but not on my work machine [22:21] nah, Windows 7 [22:21] :P [22:21] ... [22:21] christ [22:21] can't boot into x with nvidia driver [22:21] nouveau is known to be broken and I can't reinstall straight to quantal [22:21] !#!%@! [22:22] * Quintasan goes back to trying [22:22] well .. uh ... dual graphics? [22:25] Quintasan: use Precise [22:25] quantal and X is horrible shit for me as well [22:25] precise is buttery smooth [22:33] * yofel has quantal + nvidia running just fine [22:34] Quintasan: what's broken in nouveau this time? [22:34] yofel: Dunno, refuses to go to lightdm [22:34] whines something about buffers [22:34] should work on my gfx card [22:34] but it doesnt [22:34] :P [22:35] great -.- [22:35] tried nomodeset? [23:02] My plasma netbook crash now reported to bugs.kde.org per shadeslayer's request. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307553 [23:02] KDE bug 307553 in plasma-netbook "Plasma Netbook crashes on switching Activity Pages" [Crash,Unconfirmed]