[09:51] <silverarrow> heard anything on the dailies
[09:51] <silverarrow> ?
[09:52] <kanliot> sup silverarrow
[09:52] <silverarrow> hi
[09:52] <silverarrow> it`s almost sad to leave 12.04
[09:55] <smartboyhw> Hi:P
[09:55] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, you mean when the new dailies will be built?
[09:56] <silverarrow> no, more like feedback fromt testing
[09:56]  * smartboyhw is not understand what silverarrow is saying then:P
[09:58] <silverarrow> hm
[09:58] <smartboyhw> feedback from testing what do yuo mean silverarrow ?
[09:59] <smartboyhw> *you
[09:59] <silverarrow> well, there have been new issued regularly ?
[09:59] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, new what?
[10:00] <silverarrow> brb, update with restart
[10:00] <smartboyhw> OK
[11:17] <xnox> I'd like to add a testcase to Ubuntu Desktop Mandatory
[11:17] <xnox> or possibly run-once
[11:18] <xnox> Install (reinstall) & Install (upgrade)
[11:19] <xnox> basically bug 1056571 and bug 1050562
[11:19]  * xnox is a bit confused how'd we managed to release all of these milestone images without these options =)
[11:19]  * xnox is fixing this now.
[11:22] <xnox> oh and server images as well, as they are also affected.
[13:33] <balloons> xnox, :-) So the image should have these options now?
[13:34] <xnox> balloons: after partman-auto is uploaded the next server images and all alternates will get the reuse option (in place upgrade/reinstall)
[13:34] <balloons> kk
[13:34] <xnox> balloons: after my ubiquity fix is uploaded with new partman-auto embedded the desktop images will get the reuse option (in place upgrade/reinstall)
[13:35] <xnox> balloons: but...... how did we not notice this earlier =)
[13:35] <xnox> balloons: and is it ok to add just a test case?
[13:36] <balloons> xnox, ? on the how and why we arrived at what we arrived at
[13:36] <balloons> and yes we can add a testcase. This cycle was about rounding up the tests we do have and seeing what
[13:36] <balloons> is what
[13:36] <balloons> I'd like to enhance and change how we test ubiquity
[13:41] <xnox> balloons: do we have uds-r session about it?
[13:42] <balloons> not yet, but indeed we will
[13:42] <balloons> however, I don't want to necessarily wait until uds to talk about it or do some work on it.. we'll see what can be squeezed in
[17:39] <balloons> xnox, btw, I did add your 2 testcase requests to the list to work
[17:44] <xnox> balloons: awesome =)
[17:45] <balloons> xnox, do you the tool jibel mentioned besides xpresser?
[17:46] <xnox> balloons: autopilot? no.
[17:46] <balloons> yea.. I know about autopilot.. I thought there may have been somehting else
[17:51] <jibel> balloons, ldtp ?
[17:52] <balloons> ahh jibel :-) perhaps.. thank you
[18:03] <xnox> well ldtp is the first one, it's based on a11y frameworks.
[18:03] <xnox> and there were mago python binding on top of ldtp but they are old / not maintained any more?!
[18:03] <xnox> and ubiquity is not fully a11y
[18:03] <xnox> unity is not a11y at all....
[18:04] <xnox> so pure ldtp / a11y based testing will not do, as you just would not be able to do it.
[18:04] <xnox> the xpresser - will break every time there is a change to the theme?
[18:05] <nagappan> xnox, yup
[18:06] <nagappan> xnox, it also based on the app you are planing to automate
[18:06] <nagappan> xnox, in VMware, we run tests in Unity mode as well for VMware Workstation and Player without any issues
[18:07] <nagappan> xnox, I guess davmor2 had success in automating his app (ubuntu-software-center)
[18:07] <xnox> nagappan: do you automate on the host or guest? I think it would be perfect if xpresser could run on the host -> automating e.g. installer running in the VM
[18:08] <xnox> otherwise i'd have to presseed the desktop cd to install xpresser and start that up somehow =/
[18:12] <nagappan> xnox, we automate both, but the guest VM, was pre-created
[18:13] <xnox> nagappan: ok. And you click stuff in the VM? interesting.
[18:13] <nagappan> xnox, we are now in the process of integrating Sikuli with LDTP, which will create VM from scratch
[18:13] <nagappan> xnox, yup, the reason is LDTP will run in the guest, so we can run the remote commands