[00:28] hey [00:28] its me [00:28] studio_user785 [00:31] is unity too much of a hog? thats why you dont use it? [00:32] ill see if there is a huge difference [01:21] studio-user797: we just went with XFCE for the work flow mainly [01:21] if you like unity, use it :) [01:23] all of the studio stuff will work fine in any DE === cwillu is now known as cwillu_at_home === cwillu_at_home is now known as cwillu [13:41] hi im using ubuntu studio [13:41] Hi JStoe [13:42] hi its me floatinggoat if you remebmer me [13:42] JStoe, No:P [13:42] oh i remember you [13:42] JStoe, oh alright:P [13:43] im using kupfer to suite the lack of unity but otherwise its pretty good as my main OS [13:43] i like kupfer [13:43] Ah the use-unity-to-replace-xfce right? [13:43] no im using xfce [13:44] I always end up liking xfce even though im a fan of unity [13:44] i was reading about another one... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu [13:44] yeah, unity is fine ... the launcher is slow, but it works great [13:44] i dont think i'll ever use it full time though [13:44] holstein, i like kupfer too, i really like how it can even open web pages. [13:44] i like openbox with some add-ons like kupfer [13:44] * smartboyhw likes xfce more then unity [13:45] Especially after they added shopping lens to it:P [13:45] shopping lens is new [13:45] could work fine.. we'll see [13:45] * smartboyhw uses all updated version of 12.10:P [13:46] nice.. i think i will soon on my machine with the nvidia ion [13:46] holstein, :) [13:46] otherwise, i still using 10.04 on my studio rig [13:47] holstein, wow still using 10.04? Just upgrade to Studio 12.04 LTS can't you:P [13:47] smartboyhw: not withtou extensive hardware/software testing [13:48] smartboyhw: i make money with that rig [13:48] holstein, OK:P [13:48] right now, it works fine.. though i will upgrade when i get time to make the switch [13:49] holstein, good [13:49] maybe i just wait for 14.04 ;) [13:50] holstein, wow:P [13:51] i'll still test all then inbetween versions anyway [13:51] :) [14:07] I like how xfce lets me run jack in realtime with no noticable lag/flickering [14:07] JStoe, :) [14:08] JStoe: you dont find that the case with unity? [14:08] it really shouldnt matter all that much what DE you use... [14:08] holstein, yeah idk if it was unity or my kernel [14:08] cause i was using regular ubuntu of course [14:08] Should be kernel:P [14:08] with tha regular kernel [14:09] JStoe, normal Ubuntu uses -generic kernel, we use -lowlatenchy kernel [14:09] but id expect running jack like that would be tough ont eh cpu [14:09] and unity isnt exactly light [14:09] smartboyhw, I use that now [14:09] i would test with unity and xfce installed on the same hardware.. the same installation [14:09] JStoe, so it matters about the kernel... [14:10] * smartboyhw has unity, kde and xfce installed [14:10] i would boot the *same* kernel.. and only change the DE and test [14:10] the results should be quite similar [14:11] alright [14:11] hmm idk if i would switch back then [14:11] I do like how unity saves on screen real estate [14:12] JStoe: should? [14:12] JStoe: you can have both installe at the same time [14:12] I know [14:12] JStoe: you *should* use what you like [14:13] then again im on a 12GB partition becaues im lazy [14:13] we chose XFCE for a reason.. but uniyt should work fine [14:13] what reason is that [14:13] JStoe: mostly work flow [14:13] it has better work flow? [14:14] we feel its the most like gnome2 was [14:14] does it have better tiling or something? [14:14] "better" is a matter of opiion [14:14] opinion* [14:14] how do i tile [14:14] we also really like the xubuntu team [14:14] JStoe: i would use a tiling manager.. something like awesome [14:14] oh xfce doesnt tile? [14:15] JStoe: all this stuff is open.. it'll all do whatever you have the patience to make it do [14:15] JStoe: i usually go to specific tools for the job [14:15] awesome is a tiling manager.. xfce is not [14:16] does that mean you cant make XFCE tile?.. i know you can.. but how easy? and at what cost? [14:16] hi can helo to set up connection for internet, i have connected to wi-fi but i can't access to internet? [14:16] and why when there are tiling managers... plus, thats not what xfce is "expecting" you to do with it [14:16] Madz: you can ping the gateway? [14:17] no [14:17] Madz: Maybe your router lost connection, I sometimes had that problem too [14:17] http://notanothersheep.com/XFCE4WindowTiling [14:17] Madz: if you cant ping the gateway, then you are *not* connected [14:18] Madz: i would reconnect.. sometimes, as they say on "the IT crowd".. you can trun it all off and back on again [14:18] turn* [14:18] http://notanothersheep.com/XFCE4WindowTiling was for you JStoe [14:18] * smartboyhw does what holstein says if he lose connection [14:18] Madz: i would see that *any* computer can connect and ping the gateway, and then something like google.com [14:19] Madz: i would check the config of the router [14:19] oh ok i'll try,, thanks [14:20] Madz: also, not that im kicking you out of here.. but if its slow here, try #ubntu and/or #xubuntu [14:22] do you have link to slove my problem? [14:23] Madz: im not sure either of us know what your problem is right now [14:23] Madz: What link? Website or channel? [14:23] i have suggestions for trying to discover your issue [14:23] trying pinging the gateway and google.com from another wireless device on the network [14:24] trying pinging the gateway and google.com from the device with the "issue" [14:24] ok,, [14:24] Madz: i would try getting close to the router.. sometimes i have seen a broadcom chip show connected, but not be actually "connected" [14:25] if i had other routers around (which i do) i would turn one on without encryption and connect to the open wifi point and ping the gateway [14:31] ok,, i try now,, because now i use windows, i change to ubuntu,, see ya... [14:31] Bye Madz [14:41] hi there smartboyhw [14:42] Hi drupin [14:42] how ya holstein [14:42] this hydrogen is a kool tool [15:08] drupin: its a great tool... check out Stuzz in #opensourcemusicians ...hes the H2 master :) [19:35] Where is a log of all crashes kept at? [19:35] I have a program that from face value looks to crash randomly, but I'm sure their has to be a reason. === briamini_ is now known as briamini === sunzz is now known as sunz [20:40] hello, I'm testing ubuntu-studio with m-audio fast track pro , i have problems always to obtain microphone input. any help on how to solve this problem?? I know it is possible to have this card work "out of box", because i made it works some times ago, anyway it's not so yet. [20:40] ubuntu-studio quantal beta 2... to be pricise. [20:44] I have tested this card on many linux-distro, but it doesn't work out of box. i'd like to have a link to information on how to make this card work for the moment. The problem is the input of microphone === briamini_ is now known as briamini === ubuntu-studio_ is now known as len-live