[06:18] <mxd> anu juju guru (poetic) talkin tonight?
[06:23] <mxd> hello
[06:24] <SpamapS> mxd: heh, just about to go to bed
[06:24] <SpamapS> mxd: ?
[06:24] <mxd> was looking for  juju expert to see if this is a bug or me
[06:25] <SpamapS> mxd: you have me for a couple more minutes while I install updates. :) go ahead
[06:26] <mxd> ive been trying to juju and maas going and cant make it owrk juju gives a error every time ...
[06:26] <mxd> so i thought i would hook up to my amazon ec2 account
[06:28] <mxd> but when i go to launch juju i get and error on the control-bucket and for the life of me i canm't find that info at amazon on the web or with hybrid fox
[06:28] <mxd> the guide says its not needed but bootstrap crashes if i take it out
[06:29] <mxd> so is that a bug or not?
[06:32] <SpamapS> I'd need to see the error
[06:32] <SpamapS> mxd: you do need control-bucket.. and the aws creds you give juju need to have full control of that bucket
[06:33] <mxd> ok i dont use s3 so where do you get the control-bucjet information from ..it isnt in security  anywhere that i can find
[06:35] <mxd> as far as i can see for amazon basic ec2 service ..i need ...access key ..secret-key-- account ..and  password region and mybe the url if its not coded ....Not seeing bucket info any where
[06:37] <SpamapS> mxd: it has to be *globally* unique
[06:38] <SpamapS> mxd: the 'uuid' program is useful
[06:38] <mxd> so this is a value from my system .....ie a volume location?
[06:43] <mxd> so if i stick the default back in there with the sample ..will juju create (use ) that?   I was assuming that was a storage bucket from S3 services it was lookiing for not a repository on my net
[06:44] <SpamapS> mxd: the way S3 works, buckets have to be globally unique... its just the place to put your stuff
[06:45] <SpamapS> mxd: even across different users, it has to be unique. Its not local, its on S3, but you, the user, have to decide what the name should be
[06:45] <SpamapS> mxd: and yes, juju will create a control-bucket that does not exist
[06:45] <SpamapS> mxd: and if it exists but you can't write to it, you'll get an error
[06:46] <mxd> ok so it is my storage .........so i can mount a drive iscsi or something get the uuid and put that in there ...and then all the resources and charms will go in there
[06:47] <SpamapS> ugh, no
[06:47] <SpamapS> mxd: there is a *program* called UUID
[06:47] <SpamapS> mxd: it will generate a UUID
[06:48] <SpamapS> mxd: you can paste the UUID it prints out in as control-bucket, and that should have a very high chance of working
[06:48] <mxd> that does beg the question if you don't put a real device in there how does juju map to real storage?
[06:52] <mxd> or maybe a better question how (where) do you control it
[06:56] <mxd> that worked not a bug ...my not understanding what was going on ....
[06:59] <mxd> now back to figuring out mass and juju ..key errors are the suckyist thing about the whole freaking cloud ...
[07:03] <mxd> thanks Spam btw ...
[07:06] <SpamapS> sorry did we switch back to maas?!
[07:06] <SpamapS> mxd: I think my brain capacity has dropped to "Cro-Magnon" levels. g'nite
[07:15] <mxd> gnite to ya ..and yes i am have an instance running on ec2 now ...next there will be how to control it .. doesnt pop up in maas control yet ...need to figure out my local cloud first though ..just wanted juju to work
[07:17] <mxd> to look at wht it took to connect  names keys etc...
[07:17] <mxd> man i need a new keyboard
[15:19] <SpamapS> mxd: I'd recommend #juju for further discussion btw. It gets pretty heavy in the developers chatting about code in here.. users tend to hang over there