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PH5hey, when i use chromium to go on youtube it says missing plug-in where the video is suppose to be.... need help?01:55
kanliotdid you install lubuntu-restricted-extras?02:00
kanliot!flash02:00
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:00
PH5no02:00
kanliotyou can also install chrome if you like that better02:01
kanliotchromium has been crashy lately02:01
PH5oh alright thanks02:02
kanliot!chrome02:02
PH5will do02:04
PH5can ubuntu one work with lubuntu?02:13
kanliotyeah but it has this keylogin thing when you boot02:14
kanliotdoesn't work well IMHO02:14
kanlioti've filed a bug02:15
IboSkanliot: any link ?02:16
PH5oh so how do you run it02:16
IboSto the bug report02:16
PH5alright so have one or two bugs02:18
kanliothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/103410802:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1034108 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu, won't take system password, always prompts for keyring" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:22
kanliotph5 please be more specific. thanks!02:22
kanliotsomething i said?02:23
kanlioti suppose it's possible02:23
tweak-daddyhi. I am looking for the links to install a winnowed version of Lubuntu on a machine with memory constraints. Ideally, I would like to find a 64-bit version using LXDE.05:32
bioterrorwhat?05:33
bioterrorwhat's winnowed version?05:34
bioterrorhttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso05:34
tweak-daddybioterror, a winnowed down version would be a lighter version than standard installation.05:35
Unit193So, mini.iso plus lubuntu-core.05:35
bioterroryou want lighter version of lubuntu?05:35
bioterrorUnit193, it just doesnt make it any lighter. it just misses couple of programs05:36
tweak-daddyUnit193: yes, something along those lines.05:36
Unit193bioterror: Yep, I now.05:36
Unit193+k05:36
tweak-daddyis there a way to install the program on machines with very tight RAM constraints?05:37
tweak-daddywhere is a link to what you mentioned, Unit193?05:37
Unit193Duane was?05:38
Unit193!mini05:38
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:38
tweak-daddythank you, ubottu05:39
wxltweak-daddy: i can offer you some other advise, perhaps05:39
wxlor additional i should say05:40
wxlfocus on the following meta packages: ubuntu-standard/ubuntu-minimal05:40
wxlthat is the core linux of every canonical distro05:40
wxlno gui05:40
tweak-daddyi am open to advice. thank you, wxl05:40
wxlat that point, you can add as many or as few lubuntu items as you want05:41
wxlsee here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall05:41
wxllubuntu-core will get you a pretty basic system without really any apps05:42
wxlhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.precise/core05:42
wxlthat will get you a functioning gui05:42
Unit193Though does it have a dm?05:42
wxllightdm, yep05:43
wxlas for lxde you get lxpanel, lxsession, openbox, and pcmanfm05:43
Unit193Yeah, figured maybe I should click the seed link. :P05:44
wxlthen if you want a little more you can do --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop05:44
wxlhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.precise/desktop (everything not in the paranthesis)05:44
wxlwhich for lxde gets you lxterminal, x11-utils, leafpad, lxlauncher05:45
wxlor you can use this as a basis to pick and choose only the apps you want05:45
wxlhope that helps tweak-daddy05:45
bioterrorbut what does this all above to have to do with low RAM usage as most of that stuff is related to software that is installed05:45
bioterrorI could say it's easier to install lubuntu-desktop and remove what ever you dont need05:46
tweak-daddythat will give me plenty to look at for now, wx1. gracias.05:46
wxlwell bioterror gvfs is something that's using some ram that comes with desktop and not core05:46
bioterrorthan start pulling in all the xrandr  stuff05:46
wxlas an example05:46
bioterrorbut the thing that's most funny is that he wants to run 64bit system that uses more ram than 32bit and talks about low ram usage05:47
bioterrorwell05:47
wxli mean if you want low ram usage you install ncurses and tmux and call it a gui XD05:47
tweak-daddybioterror, i intend to install this on two different machines. the low RAM issue is on one of them, the other 64-bit one is for a VM.05:49
Unit193wxl: Spelled "screen" wrong.05:50
wxlUnit193: don't make me kick you. :)05:50
bioterrorgo on, kick05:51
tweak-daddyanyway, with these links I should be good to go.  The low RAM machine has 512 MB and the first time I tried the regular installation of Lubuntu, it failed to complete.05:51
Unit193Try alternate, though desktop worked fine in my 512.05:51
wxl512 should be more than sufficient even for desktop05:56
tweak-daddyi will do that, Unit193. it is downloading as we speak. looks like the server is running 512 MB too, judging from the speed of its download.  :)05:56
wxli've run 256 before without too much pain05:56
bioterrorwxl, s/tmux/twin ;)05:58
wxlhah05:58
bioterrorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_%28windowing_system%2905:59
wxls/twin/ratpoison/ XD05:59
bioterrorratpoison is X1105:59
wxltrue, but much better name05:59
tweak-daddywill the alternate installation program have the ability to overwrite an existing Linux installion and replace the Grub too?06:05
cristian_cHi06:15
cristian_cI've made a question in launchpad answers: https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu06:15
cristian_cBut maybe the category is wrong: Lubuntu default settings06:16
cristian_cWhat category can I change with?06:16
cristian_cAny ideas?06:16
* wxl wonders if anyone actually checks those06:18
wxli know i don't!06:18
cristian_c206269Changing the audio mixer in Lubuntu2012-08-19cristianLubuntu default settings —Open06:20
wxla url works, too06:20
cristian_chttps://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/20626906:20
cristian_cwxl, any ideas? :)06:27
wxlwhy don't you talk to the developer you spoke to?06:27
cristian_cwxl, he doesnì't join the forum anymore06:28
cristian_c*doesn't06:28
wxlwho is it?06:28
cristian_cstephen smally06:29
cristian_cor launchpad06:29
wxllooks like he's active to me https://launchpad.net/~stephen-smally/+karma06:30
TheLordOfTimehe might just not check the questions06:31
wxllike i said, i don't think anyone does XD06:31
TheLordOfTimeyou have to be subscribed to questions to get notifications about em for a given package06:31
TheLordOfTimei know i don't check any questions for anything, even bug related, unless it ends up in an IRC channel i'm in and its relevant to my roles :P06:31
cristian_cTheLordOfTime, I've asked the question in Lubuntu default settings category06:32
TheLordOfTimedoesn't mean jack06:32
cristian_cbut I think it is wrong for my question06:32
bioterroruse mailing list06:32
bioterrorwhere the developers talk06:32
wxlyeah i'd agree with that notion too if you want to get to devs in general06:32
cristian_cthe devs mailing list, bioterror?06:32
bioterrorand you're late06:33
wxlfrankly, as someone who uses his machine for broadcasting, mixing, producing and listening to music, i have no need for anything beyond alsamixer06:33
bioterroras the 12.10 apps has been frozen for months :D06:33
TheLordOfTimemhm06:33
bioterrorbut soon they will open discussion for the 13.0406:33
cristian_cCan I write to that list though I'm not a developer, bioterror? :)06:34
bioterrorprobably06:35
bioterrorbeen a while since I read any lists06:35
cristian_cok06:35
cristian_cthanks for the answers06:35
Sailor_Moonhello :)07:54
Sailor_Moonis any version of lubuntu with good working with only 200 mb RAM?07:55
Sailor_Moonis anybody here?08:00
wxlSailor_Moon: i'd say 256 is pretty much an absolute minimum08:03
wxlanywho, night all08:04
Sailor_Moon:(08:06
Sailor_Moonthanks; good night!08:07
kanliotSailor_Moon, if you have an hour to install lubuntu with the alternate cd, you might try it on 200MB08:28
bioterrorwhere do people get these computers with 200MB of RAM :-)08:38
kanliotfell off the back of a conestoga wagon, during a journey on the oregon trail08:39
bioterrorI have a problem with my RAM sticks08:39
bioterrorI have four 1GB DDR3 sticks and they are problem waste for me, and no one wants them :D08:39
bioterror1GB = waste of ram socket08:40
kanliotyeah i could go from 8 to 1008:40
bioterrorbtw. they have specsed DDR4 ;)08:45
bioterrorhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231684/New_DDR4_spec_sets_stage_for_new_DRAM_in_computers08:46
kanliotddr 2 didn't last long08:47
bioterrorno it did not08:47
kanlioti could use more than 4GB in my server08:47
bioterrorI have two desktop that's running with 8GB08:47
bioterrorboth are DDR3 1333MHz08:48
kanlioti was sure i'd get more than 2% speed going to ddr3 213308:49
kanliotbut i didnt08:49
zorgborghi guys, what happens if I remove grub (didnt install lubuntu with the alt-cd, but it seems I still have grub packages, even though i just get a blank screen when th OS loads)?13:16
icallitveragrub is basically what makes the computer boot13:17
zorgborgso everyone using linux has grub installed? how do i make the grub bootloader prompt appear at boot?13:19
zorgborgi thought grub was only necessary for selecting between 2 or more diff OS's13:21
IboSiirc it's tab at selction screen13:22
icallitverait might be shift13:22
icallitveraand i think grub or other bootloader is always necessary even if it's only one OS13:23
zorgborgicallitvera: kk i think my grub selection screen doesnt appear cos the 'waiting time' is set to 013:24
icallitverayeah that might do it, i set it like that cause i just have one OS13:24
zorgborgicallitvera: yer and theres something about grub may cause a blank or corrupt screen on some PCI's or something, which is fair enough as long as i get log in screen eventually13:27
underHi. I just installed lubuntu on my netbook but I have an issue. When I lower the screen, the netbook doesnt go in standby14:30
holsteinunder: i would check the power settings.. iirc there are settings for on battery and on power14:36
underthanks14:40
silverarrowhi15:47
silverarrowdoes anyone know what ipad and iphone uses to stream flash?15:47
silverarrowthere is no flash for ipad I think15:48
Myrttimmmm why are you asking?15:50
silverarrowbecause I thought it was interesting15:51
silverarrowI am on ppc and don`t have flash15:51
Myrttignash etc.15:51
silverarrowno, gnash doesn`t work15:52
silverarrowit can`t handle encrypted copyright streams15:52
silverarrowhowever there is an app for ipad that works15:53
netricki have a problem with PCManFM. When i set view to list it works fine untill i close PCManFM. after next run, the view is set on "icons" again, so pcmanfm doesnt remember view settings... im using lubuntu 12.04, is there any way to permanently change view settings?16:51
netricknvm, its in preferences xD16:52
silverarrowa bit late16:54
MatyasHi, not sure if this is the best forum for this, but I just want to say thank you. I've just switched from Ubuntu (Unity) to Lubuntu daily. And Lubuntu seems like the real Linux experience. Simple, fast, but really sleak with the nice icons and theme.19:15
wxlthis works but you can always put it in the mailing list Matyas19:16
wxlthanks btw ;)19:16
PH5hey, what can i use to record desktop videos?21:11
silverarrowrecord?21:13
silverarrowa camera?21:13
silverarrowshould detect auto with a bit of luck21:13
psichasPH5, yum apt-cache search record21:14
wxlpsichas: yum? :)21:16
* wxl shakes his head21:16
silverarrowlol21:17
wxlanywho xvidcap, byzanz, recordmydesktop, istanbul would have been good options21:17
silverarrowVLC records21:17
silverarrowI have used it even on ppc21:18
silverarrowhe might be back21:19
silverarrowor she21:19
wxli'm assuming he wanted a screen recorder21:19
wxlmaybe he wanted a video capture21:19
silverarrowyeah21:21
silverarrowyou were probably right though21:21
PH5hey, what can i use to record desktop videos?21:29
silverarrowhi21:29
wxlxvidcap, byzanz, recordmydesktop, istanbul21:30
PH5which is the best?21:30
wxlassuming you want to record what you're doing21:30
PH5yes21:30
wxl"best" is difficult to answer21:31
PH5the better one21:31
wxli'd suggest trying them all and see what YOU like the best21:31
PH5oh so can i type in the terminal21:32
wxli hope so, for your sake21:32
PH5why is that21:32
wxlcuz otherwise, you won't be able to do all sorts of fun things21:32
wxlasciiportal, for example21:33
PH5oh21:33
PH5so i got recordmydesktop BUT its not in the menu21:36
PH5(laughing)21:36
PH5with xvidcap not getting any sound21:42
silverarrowit is all terminal maneuvered ?21:49
silverarrowI can never get alsamixer to turn up21:49
silverarroweven with the GUI part installed21:49
silverarrowstill only  works in terminal21:49

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