[01:55] <PH5> hey, when i use chromium to go on youtube it says missing plug-in where the video is suppose to be.... need help?
[02:00] <kanliot> did you install lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:00] <kanliot> !flash
[02:00] <PH5> no
[02:01] <kanliot> you can also install chrome if you like that better
[02:01] <kanliot> chromium has been crashy lately
[02:02] <PH5> oh alright thanks
[02:02] <kanliot> !chrome
[02:04] <PH5> will do
[02:13] <PH5> can ubuntu one work with lubuntu?
[02:14] <kanliot> yeah but it has this keylogin thing when you boot
[02:14] <kanliot> doesn't work well IMHO
[02:15] <kanliot> i've filed a bug
[02:16] <IboS> kanliot: any link ?
[02:16] <PH5> oh so how do you run it
[02:16] <IboS> to the bug report
[02:18] <PH5> alright so have one or two bugs
[02:21] <kanliot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/1034108
[02:22] <kanliot> ph5 please be more specific. thanks!
[02:23] <kanliot> something i said?
[02:23] <kanliot> i suppose it's possible
[05:32] <tweak-daddy> hi. I am looking for the links to install a winnowed version of Lubuntu on a machine with memory constraints. Ideally, I would like to find a 64-bit version using LXDE.
[05:33] <bioterror> what?
[05:34] <bioterror> what's winnowed version?
[05:34] <bioterror> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:35] <tweak-daddy> bioterror, a winnowed down version would be a lighter version than standard installation.
[05:35] <Unit193> So, mini.iso plus lubuntu-core.
[05:35] <bioterror> you want lighter version of lubuntu?
[05:36] <bioterror> Unit193, it just doesnt make it any lighter. it just misses couple of programs
[05:36] <tweak-daddy> Unit193: yes, something along those lines.
[05:36] <Unit193> bioterror: Yep, I now.
[05:36] <Unit193> +k
[05:37] <tweak-daddy> is there a way to install the program on machines with very tight RAM constraints?
[05:37] <tweak-daddy> where is a link to what you mentioned, Unit193?
[05:38] <Unit193> Duane was?
[05:38] <Unit193> !mini
[05:39] <tweak-daddy> thank you, ubottu
[05:39] <wxl> tweak-daddy: i can offer you some other advise, perhaps
[05:40] <wxl> or additional i should say
[05:40] <wxl> focus on the following meta packages: ubuntu-standard/ubuntu-minimal
[05:40] <wxl> that is the core linux of every canonical distro
[05:40] <wxl> no gui
[05:40] <tweak-daddy> i am open to advice. thank you, wxl
[05:41] <wxl> at that point, you can add as many or as few lubuntu items as you want
[05:41] <wxl> see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[05:42] <wxl> lubuntu-core will get you a pretty basic system without really any apps
[05:42] <wxl> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.precise/core
[05:42] <wxl> that will get you a functioning gui
[05:42] <Unit193> Though does it have a dm?
[05:43] <wxl> lightdm, yep
[05:43] <wxl> as for lxde you get lxpanel, lxsession, openbox, and pcmanfm
[05:44] <Unit193> Yeah, figured maybe I should click the seed link. :P
[05:44] <wxl> then if you want a little more you can do --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <wxl> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.precise/desktop (everything not in the paranthesis)
[05:45] <wxl> which for lxde gets you lxterminal, x11-utils, leafpad, lxlauncher
[05:45] <wxl> or you can use this as a basis to pick and choose only the apps you want
[05:45] <wxl> hope that helps tweak-daddy
[05:45] <bioterror> but what does this all above to have to do with low RAM usage as most of that stuff is related to software that is installed
[05:46] <bioterror> I could say it's easier to install lubuntu-desktop and remove what ever you dont need
[05:46] <tweak-daddy> that will give me plenty to look at for now, wx1. gracias.
[05:46] <wxl> well bioterror gvfs is something that's using some ram that comes with desktop and not core
[05:46] <bioterror> than start pulling in all the xrandr  stuff
[05:46] <wxl> as an example
[05:47] <bioterror> but the thing that's most funny is that he wants to run 64bit system that uses more ram than 32bit and talks about low ram usage
[05:47] <bioterror> well
[05:47] <wxl> i mean if you want low ram usage you install ncurses and tmux and call it a gui XD
[05:49] <tweak-daddy> bioterror, i intend to install this on two different machines. the low RAM issue is on one of them, the other 64-bit one is for a VM.
[05:50] <Unit193> wxl: Spelled "screen" wrong.
[05:50] <wxl> Unit193: don't make me kick you. :)
[05:51] <bioterror> go on, kick
[05:51] <tweak-daddy> anyway, with these links I should be good to go.  The low RAM machine has 512 MB and the first time I tried the regular installation of Lubuntu, it failed to complete.
[05:51] <Unit193> Try alternate, though desktop worked fine in my 512.
[05:56] <wxl> 512 should be more than sufficient even for desktop
[05:56] <tweak-daddy> i will do that, Unit193. it is downloading as we speak. looks like the server is running 512 MB too, judging from the speed of its download.  :)
[05:56] <wxl> i've run 256 before without too much pain
[05:58] <bioterror> wxl, s/tmux/twin ;)
[05:58] <wxl> hah
[05:59] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_%28windowing_system%29
[05:59] <wxl> s/twin/ratpoison/ XD
[05:59] <bioterror> ratpoison is X11
[05:59] <wxl> true, but much better name
[06:05] <tweak-daddy> will the alternate installation program have the ability to overwrite an existing Linux installion and replace the Grub too?
[06:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:15] <cristian_c> I've made a question in launchpad answers: https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu
[06:16] <cristian_c> But maybe the category is wrong: 	Lubuntu default settings
[06:16] <cristian_c> What category can I change with?
[06:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:18]  * wxl wonders if anyone actually checks those
[06:18] <wxl> i know i don't!
[06:20] <cristian_c> 	206269	Changing the audio mixer in Lubuntu	2012-08-19	cristian	Lubuntu default settings	 —	Open
[06:20] <wxl> a url works, too
[06:20] <cristian_c> https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/206269
[06:27] <cristian_c> wxl, any ideas? :)
[06:27] <wxl> why don't you talk to the developer you spoke to?
[06:28] <cristian_c> wxl, he doesnì't join the forum anymore
[06:28] <cristian_c> *doesn't
[06:28] <wxl> who is it?
[06:29] <cristian_c> stephen smally
[06:29] <cristian_c> or launchpad
[06:30] <wxl> looks like he's active to me https://launchpad.net/~stephen-smally/+karma
[06:31] <TheLordOfTime> he might just not check the questions
[06:31] <wxl> like i said, i don't think anyone does XD
[06:31] <TheLordOfTime> you have to be subscribed to questions to get notifications about em for a given package
[06:31] <TheLordOfTime> i know i don't check any questions for anything, even bug related, unless it ends up in an IRC channel i'm in and its relevant to my roles :P
[06:32] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, I've asked the question in Lubuntu default settings category
[06:32] <TheLordOfTime> doesn't mean jack
[06:32] <cristian_c> but I think it is wrong for my question
[06:32] <bioterror> use mailing list
[06:32] <bioterror> where the developers talk
[06:32] <wxl> yeah i'd agree with that notion too if you want to get to devs in general
[06:32] <cristian_c> the devs mailing list, bioterror?
[06:33] <bioterror> and you're late
[06:33] <wxl> frankly, as someone who uses his machine for broadcasting, mixing, producing and listening to music, i have no need for anything beyond alsamixer
[06:33] <bioterror> as the 12.10 apps has been frozen for months :D
[06:33] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[06:33] <bioterror> but soon they will open discussion for the 13.04
[06:34] <cristian_c> Can I write to that list though I'm not a developer, bioterror? :)
[06:35] <bioterror> probably
[06:35] <bioterror> been a while since I read any lists
[06:35] <cristian_c> ok
[06:35] <cristian_c> thanks for the answers
[07:54] <Sailor_Moon> hello :)
[07:55] <Sailor_Moon> is any version of lubuntu with good working with only 200 mb RAM?
[08:00] <Sailor_Moon> is anybody here?
[08:03] <wxl> Sailor_Moon: i'd say 256 is pretty much an absolute minimum
[08:04] <wxl> anywho, night all
[08:06] <Sailor_Moon> :(
[08:07] <Sailor_Moon> thanks; good night!
[08:28] <kanliot> Sailor_Moon, if you have an hour to install lubuntu with the alternate cd, you might try it on 200MB
[08:38] <bioterror> where do people get these computers with 200MB of RAM :-)
[08:39] <kanliot> fell off the back of a conestoga wagon, during a journey on the oregon trail
[08:39] <bioterror> I have a problem with my RAM sticks
[08:39] <bioterror> I have four 1GB DDR3 sticks and they are problem waste for me, and no one wants them :D
[08:40] <bioterror> 1GB = waste of ram socket
[08:40] <kanliot> yeah i could go from 8 to 10
[08:45] <bioterror> btw. they have specsed DDR4 ;)
[08:46] <bioterror> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231684/New_DDR4_spec_sets_stage_for_new_DRAM_in_computers
[08:47] <kanliot> ddr 2 didn't last long
[08:47] <bioterror> no it did not
[08:47] <kanliot> i could use more than 4GB in my server
[08:47] <bioterror> I have two desktop that's running with 8GB
[08:48] <bioterror> both are DDR3 1333MHz
[08:49] <kanliot> i was sure i'd get more than 2% speed going to ddr3 2133
[08:49] <kanliot> but i didnt
[13:16] <zorgborg> hi guys, what happens if I remove grub (didnt install lubuntu with the alt-cd, but it seems I still have grub packages, even though i just get a blank screen when th OS loads)?
[13:17] <icallitvera> grub is basically what makes the computer boot
[13:19] <zorgborg> so everyone using linux has grub installed? how do i make the grub bootloader prompt appear at boot?
[13:21] <zorgborg> i thought grub was only necessary for selecting between 2 or more diff OS's
[13:22] <IboS> iirc it's tab at selction screen
[13:22] <icallitvera> it might be shift
[13:23] <icallitvera> and i think grub or other bootloader is always necessary even if it's only one OS
[13:24] <zorgborg> icallitvera: kk i think my grub selection screen doesnt appear cos the 'waiting time' is set to 0
[13:24] <icallitvera> yeah that might do it, i set it like that cause i just have one OS
[13:27] <zorgborg> icallitvera: yer and theres something about grub may cause a blank or corrupt screen on some PCI's or something, which is fair enough as long as i get log in screen eventually
[14:30] <under> Hi. I just installed lubuntu on my netbook but I have an issue. When I lower the screen, the netbook doesnt go in standby
[14:36] <holstein> under: i would check the power settings.. iirc there are settings for on battery and on power
[14:40] <under> thanks
[15:47] <silverarrow> hi
[15:47] <silverarrow> does anyone know what ipad and iphone uses to stream flash?
[15:48] <silverarrow> there is no flash for ipad I think
[15:50] <Myrtti> mmmm why are you asking?
[15:51] <silverarrow> because I thought it was interesting
[15:51] <silverarrow> I am on ppc and don`t have flash
[15:51] <Myrtti> gnash etc.
[15:52] <silverarrow> no, gnash doesn`t work
[15:52] <silverarrow> it can`t handle encrypted copyright streams
[15:53] <silverarrow> however there is an app for ipad that works
[16:51] <netrick> i have a problem with PCManFM. When i set view to list it works fine untill i close PCManFM. after next run, the view is set on "icons" again, so pcmanfm doesnt remember view settings... im using lubuntu 12.04, is there any way to permanently change view settings?
[16:52] <netrick> nvm, its in preferences xD
[16:54] <silverarrow> a bit late
[19:15] <Matyas> Hi, not sure if this is the best forum for this, but I just want to say thank you. I've just switched from Ubuntu (Unity) to Lubuntu daily. And Lubuntu seems like the real Linux experience. Simple, fast, but really sleak with the nice icons and theme.
[19:16] <wxl> this works but you can always put it in the mailing list Matyas
[19:16] <wxl> thanks btw ;)
[21:11] <PH5> hey, what can i use to record desktop videos?
[21:13] <silverarrow> record?
[21:13] <silverarrow> a camera?
[21:13] <silverarrow> should detect auto with a bit of luck
[21:14] <psichas> PH5, yum apt-cache search record
[21:16] <wxl> psichas: yum? :)
[21:16]  * wxl shakes his head
[21:17] <silverarrow> lol
[21:17] <wxl> anywho xvidcap, byzanz, recordmydesktop, istanbul would have been good options
[21:17] <silverarrow> VLC records
[21:18] <silverarrow> I have used it even on ppc
[21:19] <silverarrow> he might be back
[21:19] <silverarrow> or she
[21:19] <wxl> i'm assuming he wanted a screen recorder
[21:19] <wxl> maybe he wanted a video capture
[21:21] <silverarrow> yeah
[21:21] <silverarrow> you were probably right though
[21:29] <PH5> hey, what can i use to record desktop videos?
[21:29] <silverarrow> hi
[21:30] <wxl> xvidcap, byzanz, recordmydesktop, istanbul
[21:30] <PH5> which is the best?
[21:30] <wxl> assuming you want to record what you're doing
[21:30] <PH5> yes
[21:31] <wxl> "best" is difficult to answer
[21:31] <PH5> the better one
[21:31] <wxl> i'd suggest trying them all and see what YOU like the best
[21:32] <PH5> oh so can i type in the terminal
[21:32] <wxl> i hope so, for your sake
[21:32] <PH5> why is that
[21:32] <wxl> cuz otherwise, you won't be able to do all sorts of fun things
[21:33] <wxl> asciiportal, for example
[21:33] <PH5> oh
[21:36] <PH5> so i got recordmydesktop BUT its not in the menu
[21:36] <PH5> (laughing)
[21:42] <PH5> with xvidcap not getting any sound
[21:49] <silverarrow> it is all terminal maneuvered ?
[21:49] <silverarrow> I can never get alsamixer to turn up
[21:49] <silverarrow> even with the GUI part installed
[21:49] <silverarrow> still only  works in terminal