| ruben-ikmaak | hmm, the fallout of the ubuntu unity/amazon flap is very interesting... Mark Shuttleworth: "most of our users are also regular users of Amazon". So does this mean that Amazon is now market leader in the 3rd world, where Ubuntu is focused on? | 13:32 |
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| ruben-ikmaak | or does this mean Mark isn that focused on bringing good software to the 3rd world as he told me in the times of the Hoary Hedgehog? | 13:33 |
| ruben-ikmaak | focused anymore i meant | 13:33 |
| AlanBell | hullo ruben-ikmaak | 13:34 |
| ruben-ikmaak | hi | 13:34 |
| AlanBell | I guess it is a globally focussed project | 13:34 |
| ruben-ikmaak | am i wrong in this account, or was i too ideally thinking all those years? | 13:35 |
| AlanBell | it isn't as focussed on that market as the OLPC project for example | 13:35 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i worked on that, and that is virtually dead... | 13:35 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I have one | 13:36 |
| ruben-ikmaak | so ubuntu is the only one specifically geared to that market | 13:36 |
| AlanBell | recently put the latest fedora on it, works rather well now | 13:36 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i worked on some support programs to 3rd world countries, repair support etc, thatś how i met Mark in the first plac | 13:37 |
| ruben-ikmaak | e | 13:37 |
| AlanBell | cool | 13:37 |
| ruben-ikmaak | he assured me that 3rd world adoption was his main reason to start Ubuntu. So do you think this changed? | 13:38 |
| AlanBell | it is probably accurate to say that most Ubuntu users are also regular users of Ubuntu | 13:38 |
| AlanBell | err, Amazon | 13:38 |
| AlanBell | it is probably accurate to say that most Ubuntu users are also regular users of Amazon | 13:38 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i personally doubt this the last 15 minutes, in his blogpost.... | 13:38 |
| ruben-ikmaak | as far as i know Amazon doesnt even deliver in more than half of the user countries. | 13:39 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i mean that ubuntu is still being mostly used in low-income countries | 13:39 |
| AlanBell | dunno, Amazon is moving into Brazil I think | 13:39 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i know of a lot of 3rd world rollouts, im not sure the "consumerist"world has more installs. | 13:40 |
| AlanBell | cool, where exactly? | 13:40 |
| ruben-ikmaak | so this sounds a bit scary to me | 13:41 |
| ruben-ikmaak | everywhere, eastern europe, africa asia, and more. | 13:41 |
| ruben-ikmaak | southern europe also big, very big parts woth low income | 13:41 |
| ruben-ikmaak | iḿ not trying to troll, im just genuinly shocked by this blogpost | 13:42 |
| AlanBell | the idea of the shopping lens is it looks at local ecommerce providors via geoip and it isn't tied to Amazon | 13:43 |
| AlanBell | that was just the easiest one to start with | 13:43 |
| ruben-ikmaak | so i just felt momentarily betrayed by Mark, not neccecarily bu ubuntu | 13:43 |
| AlanBell | why? it doesn't take anything away? | 13:44 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i had this a lot with proprietary products, once they just see an upgrade notice that offers something seemingly worth more than their house, it somehow demotivates people | 13:45 |
| ruben-ikmaak | so i would like to see a button at least asking at install/upgrade time: do you know what an "Amazon" is, and do you want to? | 13:46 |
| ruben-ikmaak | If it has info/content on other locations i would still like to see a "You seem to live in Santiago, do you want to be connected to a Mercado? | 13:49 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i think it is very off-putting to people even here in the Netherlands, where we are begging for legal kindles for years | 13:50 |
| ruben-ikmaak | im not saying its as big as bug #1, but it could hamper 3rd world adoption a lot. Also ther doesnt seem to be an offline function to do this. | 13:51 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority desktop market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 13:51 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i dont feel this is trolling, but anywhere i ask this everybody is very condescending about this. I just spoke to a canonical, and he replied: its not as if they have a real computer to start with.. | 13:53 |
| ruben-ikmaak | iḿ going to quit now, i hope i vented enough of my disappointment now, hope i did'nt disturbe your rest too much here :) | 13:54 |
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