[00:02] <simple-bed> testing
[00:07] <ronzax> `/leave
[00:10] <bonhoeffer> OerHeks, thanks!
[00:13] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone have experience installing BURG over GRUB on a system that dual-boots 12.04 and Windows?
[00:14] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, Yes. What would you like to know?
[00:14] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: Uh, how to install it?
[00:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I tried doing it earlier and sudo burg-emu gave me a grub prompt
[00:15] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, I installed it from the PPA, along with Super Boot Manager to set it up
[00:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Seeing as how I'm an ubu-noob, care to walk me through that?
[00:16] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, One sec
[00:16] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, http://www.overclock.net/t/1251224/guide-installing-burg-and-super-boot-manager-in-ubuntu-inc-12-04-lts
[00:18] <starbuck33> is there a wa to remove bookmarks from the document viewer?
[00:19] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: I still get a grub prompt when I do burg-emu
[00:20] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, did you follow all the steps in the article?
[00:21] <WeThePeople> \
[00:21] <hmmwhatsthisdo> added the PPA (well, I did earlier), updated, installed (both were already installed), installed to /dev/sda, no errors reported
[00:22] <chris92> can I someone set my USC to only display free applications?
[00:22] <cakebosd> Hey all. I have ubuntu in virtual box. The host computer has no monitor so the screen resolution is at the lowest settings. How can I edit ubuntu to have a greater resolution? Before it was sizeable but when I installed drivers for virtualbox in ubuntu it "fixed" the resolution so now its tiny.
[00:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: imgur.com/VLK1i
[00:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> gah, silly link highlight
[00:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: http://imgur.com/VLK1i
[00:23] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, that's BURG not GRUB
[00:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: yes, but shouldn't I be seeing a visual window?
[00:23] <[deXter]> Just use SBM to finish the installation and choose a theme
[00:23] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, you haven't finished installing it yet
[00:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh.
[00:24] <wutang> Sean Williams? Are you Welsh or Black?
[00:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Irish.
[00:24] <[deXter]> hmmwhatsthisdo, Follow the article from step 3
[00:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> well, american
[00:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> but my mom's mostly irish
[00:24] <wutang> fucking americans
[00:24] <wutang> their foreign policy has ruined the earth
[00:24] <IdleOne> !language | wutang
[00:25] <cakebosd> Hey all. I have ubuntu in virtual box. The host computer has no monitor so the screen resolution is at the lowest settings. How can I edit ubuntu to have a greater resolution? Before it was sizeable but when I installed drivers for virtualbox in ubuntu it "fixed" the resolution so now its tiny.
[00:25] <wutang> sorry Idleo0ne
[00:25] <IdleOne> wutang: this is a support channel, if you wish to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic (note that swearing is not acceptable in any Ubuntu channels)
[00:25] <wutang> Idle0ne I heard you the first time, calm down you bot
[00:26] <IdleOne> wutang: I was making myself clear. Drop the attitude please.
[00:26] <cakebosd> wutang: I am the sofa king. Do your knee grows?
[00:26] <Nsmurf> Can anyone suggest a ubuntu laptop under $400?
[00:26] <wutang> knee grow? This is the 21st century, no need for such racist remaarks
[00:26] <wutang> @Nsmurf, anything at all
[00:27] <Nsmurf> so far i found:MeeNee 13.1" Pro
[00:27] <Nsmurf> Kogan Agora Pro
[00:27] <Nsmurf> System 76 Starling Netbook
[00:27] <Nsmurf> ZaReason Teo Pro netbook
[00:27] <Nsmurf> Latitude 2120 Netbook
[00:27] <FloodBot1> Nsmurf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [deXter]: the repo in the latter half of step 5 is already checked and listed as being precise, should I skip it?
[00:28] <[deXter]> yeah
[00:29] <mrdeb> hello. i noticed ubuntu 1210 is faster than 1204 which is slow
[00:29] <mrdeb> is it bec gnome 3.5 is faster
[00:30] <blackshirt> mrdeb, not yet play with 12.10
[00:30] <game16> Concurrency question here! In what cases would a multithreaded application run faster on a single core processor than on a multi core processor?
[00:30] <smj> I don't have a xorg.conf, and it works by autodetection, but I need to change the configuration to enable v-sync in nouveau. if I create xorg.conf, does it still attempt to autodetect everything else? or do I need to figure out how to create a complete configuration file?
[00:30] <Daekdroom> !quantal | mrdeb
[00:31] <mrdeb> smj, why not use nvidia driver
[00:32] <Daekdroom> smj, yes, it does autodetect everything else.
[00:32] <smj> mrdeb: it ruins the ctrl-alt-fX terminals
[00:32] <blackshirt> !linux
[00:32] <smj> Daekdroom: thanks
[00:32] <mrdeb> huh?
[00:32] <mrdeb> it is much faster
[00:32] <mrdeb> and less noise from video card
[00:33] <blackshirt> mrdeb, soubd greats :d
[00:33] <blackshirt> sound
[00:33] <smj> mrdeb: my video card is passive
[00:33] <mrdeb> ok
[00:34] <mrdeb> smj yes, but nouveau doesnt drop frequencies
[00:34] <Daekdroom> It doesn't even do frequencies correctly.
[00:35] <Basstard`> blackshirt: Is there a !gnu ?
[00:36] <blackshirt> basstard, what do you need ?
[00:36] <Basstard`> blackshirt: To know if there is !gnu as there is !linux
[00:37] <blackshirt> basstard, i don't know,just check it :d lol
[00:37] <Nsmurf> Does anyone have any experince with using a MeeNee 13.1" Pro or a System 76 Starling Netbook?
[00:37] <Basstard`> blackshirt: Can't be arsed, it's too much effort.
[00:39] <blackshirt> basstard, it doesn't matter... Don't be thinked :d
[00:39] <Basstard`> blackshirt: "thinked"?
[00:40] <Basstard`> Nsmurf: Why not something from http://libre.thinkpenguin.com ?
[00:40] <rosslazer> Hello
[00:40] <blackshirt> basstard, just jokes for my languages :d
[00:40] <rosslazer> Does anyone know if there is away do disable the "reconnect window" in network manager?
[00:40] <Basstard`> blackshirt: What are your languages?
[00:40] <Nsmurf> Basstard: thanks, i'll check it out.
[00:41] <blackshirt> basstard, i'm from a long far south east asia :d
[00:41] <Basstard`> Nsmurf: They fully work with free software, compared to System 76 for instance.
[00:42] <rosslazer> Anyone?
[00:42] <Basstard`> blackshirt: I won't be thinked then :)
[00:42] <Respite212> Anyone know how do I stop ubuntu from going into screensaver mode every few minutes?
[00:42] <rosslazer> Respite212: caffeine
[00:42] <blackshirt> basstard, :d :d
[00:43] <Nsmurf> On thinkpenguin they say that the computers start at 249.  Where are the cheap laptops then?
[00:43] <rosslazer> Respite212: It's an app that stops your computer from going to sleep
[00:43] <Respite212> rosslazer: err so I sudo apt-get caffeine?
[00:44] <rosslazer> Respite212: google the app you need to add the repo first
[00:44] <Respite212> rosslazer: Thanks
[00:44] <blackshirt> basstard' ... Your nick was very sarcastic word.. I think :d
[00:45] <Basstard`> Nsmurf: It says both desktop and laptop, so you'll find among the desktops on that starts at 249.
[00:45] <Basstard`> one
[00:45] <rosslazer> Anyone know how to disable the network manager pop up window when wifi goes out??
[00:45] <blackshirt> rosslazer, just disable notifications
[00:45] <Basstard`> blackshirt: Are you wearing a black shirt?
[00:46] <rosslazer> blackshirt: It's not like the notification bubble
[00:46] <rosslazer> blackshirt: It's an entire window that pops up asking to connect to the network
[00:47] <blackshirt> oh, sorry rosslazer for missunderstand
[00:48] <Respite212> how do I add programs to caffeine?
[00:48] <Respite212> it says "select a procedure"?
[00:48] <Respite212> or process
[00:49] <blackshirt> basstard, for some times yes,
[00:50] <Basstard`> blackshirt: So you're a black shirt wearing a black shirt for some times?
[00:51] <blackshirt> basstard, aha..you are smart people guys :d
[00:52] <Basstard`> blackshirt: :)
[00:52] <blackshirt> just jokes basstard...
[00:55] <jrou> hola!
[00:55] <jrou> i been stuck 4 days now... i need help installing oracle java. i have it downloaded
[00:56] <blackshirt> jrou, why do you not trying install it through repo?
[00:57] <jrou> im new not sure what u mean? like package manager?
[00:58] <jrou> can u explain plz
[00:58] <blackshirt> yes,is there that package on repository?
[00:58] <jrou> no i need oracle
[00:58] <jrou> only works with my banking
[00:58] <xkrux> if you get the binary file from oracle
[00:58] <xkrux> you can just chmod it. and then execute it
[00:59] <blackshirt> jrou, what format packages you have been downloaded? Tar,deb, tar.gz?
[01:00] <jrou> let me look
[01:01] <jrou> .bin
[01:01] <xkrux> yeah
[01:01] <xkrux> chmod a+x jdk-6u <version>-linux-i586.bin
[01:01] <xkrux> then ./blah
[01:01] <jrou> this what i need installed "jre-6u35-linux-x64.bin
[01:01] <jrou> oh ok
[01:02] <jrou> and that's it
[01:02] <blackshirt> jrou, do like xkrux given
[01:02] <xkrux> yeah should be..
[01:02] <jrou> ok let me try
[01:02] <jrou> :)
[01:03] <blackshirt> usually,there are some guides on readme/install files about how to install them
[01:03] <jrou> ya i found a few on google but still had no luck
[01:03] <niargh> corrupt video while installing 12.04.1 amd64 desktop on brand new fresh out of the box ASUS CM6870-US-3AB
[01:04] <niargh> also corrupt video (strange red pixels scrolling fast on console) while installing server
[01:04] <Basstard`> niargh: Lesson learned. Don't buy unsupported hardware. Research beforehand.
[01:05] <niargh> basstard: fair enough, am I screwed, or is there hope?
[01:06] <Basstard`> niargh: Sure there's hope, things will work eventually.
[01:08] <jrou> ok so got java extracted
[01:08] <jrou> now i have a folder?
[01:08] <jrou> i check java -version still not installed
[01:09] <tyler_d> holla everyone
[01:10] <jrou> im willing 2 pay someone threw paypal 2 help me install oracle java i got the .bin extracted
[01:11] <niargh> Basstard`: ubuntu/debian hcl url?
[01:11] <jrou> been stuck 4 days on this
[01:11] <jrou> :(
[01:11] <Basstard`> niargh: Hm?
[01:12] <Basstard`> niargh: My brain deciphers hcl as hardware compatible list?
[01:12] <niargh> Bastard`: where can I find a hardward compatibility list for ubuntu?
[01:14] <voidmain_> Hi guys, I was wondering if somebody here could possibly help me with the following problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061233 (updates are not installing)
[01:14] <niargh> Bastard`: nvm, googled it, sorry about that
[01:14] <Basstard`> niargh: Uhm, on the net? Best way is to find whatever device gives you problems and investigate from that. I don't use Ubuntu though, I use Trisquel, and for hardware working with fully free software there is a list at h-node.org
[01:15] <niargh> Bastard`: cool, thx, will check out h-node.org
[01:18] <tyler_d> anyone care to take a stab at getting the 'fn' key working on a bluetooth apple keyboard, not showing a thing in xev?
[01:20] <Carly-> Hello
[01:20] <MrPopov> hi
[01:20] <Carly-> I need help
[01:23] <CrypticSquared> Carly-: care to rephrase that into a question?
[01:24] <tyler_d> Carly|!ask
[01:25] <Carly-> mmm I need something
[01:25] <DaemonicApathy> !ask | Carly
[01:25] <tyler_d> !ask|Carly-
[01:25] <DaemonicApathy> Heh, sorry tyler_d. Just trying to help.
[01:25] <CrypticSquared> Carly-: no need to talk in pm. here is fine
[01:25] <Carly-> ok sorry
[01:25] <tyler_d> ;) no worries, I eventually get there, thanks DaemonicApathy
[01:28] <DaemonicApathy> tyler_d: Btw, have you installed pommed?
[01:29] <tyler_d> DaemonicApathy: it works for the most part and I did no such thing :p
[01:29] <magma> Anybody can point me out a program to make 3D plots?
[01:29] <DaemonicApathy> I would imagine that they will be updating for your keyboard at some point.
[01:30] <ramos> Need help with access to webcam via ssh...Can anyone help?
[01:31] <ramos> Need help with access to webcam via ssh...Can anyone help?
[01:31] <WeThePeople>  what is the diff between backtrack 5 , R1, R2, R3 ??
[01:31] <WeThePeople> ramos, have you looked at ssh -h
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack
[01:32] <ramos> WeThePeople, what I'm trying to do is access a webcam on my computer from outside my network...
[01:33] <gyu> does anyone know how i can boot freedos in order to flash a bios?
[01:33] <ramos> i'm familiar with ssh
[01:33] <gyu> * i don't have a usb flash drive
[01:33] <Nsmurf> For buying a ubuntu laptop, i'm looking at the Teo netbook pro.  Anyone have experince with it?
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> gyu, No MS setup
[01:33] <WeThePeople> ramos, im not fam. with ssh
[01:34] <gyu> wilee-nilee what? no, freedos is not microsoft. it's a free implementation of DOS (disk based operating system) which is required to flash a BIOS
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> gyu, Most bios flash now have the ability to run from windows or load a usb or cd.
[01:35] <gyu> wilee-nilee- no cd. must be run from DOS
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> gyu, The methods I suggest run a DOS install DUH.
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> look closer at your options
[01:37] <gyu> i think the only way i can do this is if i setup grub to boot from a DOS image
[01:37] <gyu> not sure how to do it though
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> gyu, I doubt that my 5 year old toshiba MS or cd install, my aceraspire same
[01:38] <gyu> wilee-nilee; don't talk if you aren't going to make sense.
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> gyu, Uh okay I installed the bios on both of those computers using both methods, a cd or from windows, does that make sense to you and check what the bot says on attitude
[01:41] <goddard> Why do manufacters like system 76 have less attractive laptops compared to the new ultrabooks?
[01:41] <gyu> wilee-nilee: i just said i don't have a cd-r/usb flash drive. if you would speak in clear full sentences i'd understand what you were saying.
[01:42] <gyu> goddard:thinkpenguin.com has a sweet ultrabook
[01:42] <Ray2> !attitude | gyu
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> goddard, system 76 has a linited amount of laptops to use, them against whole industry of them should be your answer.
[01:43] <goddard> gyu: that sucker is stil pretty large compared to a zen book, air, or even vizios laptop and tons of others
[01:43] <gyu> wilee-nilee: are you trying to be helpful? it's obviously not what he is after.
[01:43] <gyu> goddard: are you looking for a 13.3" ?
[01:44] <goddard> gyu: i am just looking into linux manufacters really but a small ultrabook form factor
[01:45] <gyu> goddard: the ultrabook has certain specifications dictated by intel. the thinkpenguin.com's ultrabook complies with those specifications. the one is NOT an ultrabook although the 2nd 14" model is.
[01:45] <gyu> goddard: if you are looking for something smaller than a 14" screen the specifications dictate slightly smaller; same without an optical drive.
[01:46] <goddard> ahh
[01:46] <ramos> geoffw8_, do you know anything about webcams?
[01:46] <ruscour> anyone know how to get Shatter from HIB6 to run in windowed mode?
[01:48] <stankwagon> Hey guys! Anyone there?
[01:48] <stankwagon> hello?
[01:49] <stankwagon> there are 1500 people in here and no one is talking?
[01:49] <stankwagon> How is that even possible
[01:49] <Nsmurf> hi!
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> stankwagon, Many are idling, do you need help?
[01:49] <ruscour> it's IRC, most people idle
[01:50] <stankwagon> why do people idle?
[01:50] <stankwagon> what about IRC makes them idle?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> stankwagon, This is ubuntu support, you might ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <stankwagon> well how is it that i change channels?
[01:50] <stankwagon> forgive my ignorance but im to lazy to google it
[01:51] <ruscour> type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[01:51] <stankwagon> how do i see a list of channels?
[01:51] <How> At the right left theres a button that says xchat click it
[01:52] <How> At the top left theres a button that says xchat click it
[01:52] <How> after that click network list
[01:53] <stankwagon> sorry but i see no options at the top right
[01:53] <stankwagon> tho i do see a picture of myself up there...boy im handsome!
[01:54] <stankwagon> I found the network list..hum....
[01:54] <stankwagon> it was top left....im using this new ubuntu 12.04 or something. it sucks
[01:54] <stankwagon> i want my old ubuntu back...
[01:55] <stankwagon> every time i use this new ubuntu i load my gun and slowly but it up to my head.....i eventually chicken out
[01:55] <stankwagon> but just for a minute...the gun is to my temple...and im so close
[01:55] <How>  xubuntu ,lubuntu or kubuntu will better suit you
[01:56] <rredd4> trying to upgrade to adobe flash 3d, to play a facebook game.  keep getting some lisa error when i download from adobe.  any ideas?
[01:56] <stankwagon> why insult me How?!
[01:56] <stankwagon> im not a red neck
[01:56] <zykotick9> jordanm: imo a box with mixed maverick and natty sources = reinstall
[01:56] <zykotick9> jordanm: sorry - scroll issue - please ignore presvious comment!
[01:57] <ramos> anyone here familiar with network webcam access
[01:58] <stankwagon> well everyone i'd love to stay and bug the heck out of you, but i think im going to go play call of duty mw3....anyone wanna join you can add me my ID is pollockfartbox ! Peace out homeslice.!!!!
[02:05] <vfw> What is the latest kernel for a fully updated 12.04.1 system?
[02:05] <vfw> uname -a
[02:06] <vfw> anyone?
[02:06] <DaemonicApathy> Mine is 3.2.0-31-generic
[02:06] <zykotick9> !info linux-image | vfw
[02:07] <DaemonicApathy> Does that message need updating, or am I randomly ahead of the curve?
[02:07] <tyler_d> oh dear me with my wireless apple keyboard, as the upstream dev's are apparently to busy to add 2 lines of code :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/911064
[02:09] <Ben64> !info linux-image Lucid
[02:09] <Ben64> !info linux-image lucid
[02:10] <tyler_d> I'm going to take the plunge and try linux-3.6-rc7 .... pending it has hardware support for 05ac:0255
[02:10] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > Ben64
[02:10] <tyler_d> !msgthebot > tyler_d
[02:11] <tyler_d> I want to see
[02:11] <DEstlund> I'm having trouble configuring the resolution for a second monitor with nvidia--it's not recognized at all without the proprietary drivers and won't go over 800x600 with them...
[02:11] <Ben64> zykotick9: I did it once :|
[02:11] <zykotick9> Ben64: 2.6 ftw ;)  fyi lucid was based off debian squeeze when it was in testing, so lucid has <9 months support and squeeze has 1 year+ at least ;)
[02:12] <Ben64> I'm still not ready for precise
[02:12] <tyler_d> thanks ubottu
[02:12] <zykotick9> Ben64: i loved lucid for a while!  but left ubuntu pre-unity... </OT>
[02:12] <tyler_d> Ben64: I'm using it and I'm still not sure about it either
[02:13] <markovh> why was sqlmap removed from the latest ubuntu?
[02:13] <tyler_d> zykotick9: I ran from ubuntu for opensuse 12.2... which lasted about 2 weeks before I had enough and here I am
[02:14] <zykotick9> markovh: latest = 12.04 or 12.10?  <i have no idea, just curious what you mean>
[02:14] <tyler_d> alright... now lets break this beast... hopefully be back shortly wiht a new kernel :o
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Out of curiosity you don't have to answer what are you running.
[02:15] <Ben64> zykotick9: 12.10 isn't latest yet
[02:16] <zykotick9> markovh: it was in natty...
[02:16] <zykotick9> Ben64: I AGREE!
[02:16] <markovh> zykotick9: natty isn't the latest...
[02:16] <zykotick9> markovh: no it isn't
[02:17] <zykotick9> markovh: but that appears to be the last time "!info sqlmap natty" works ;)
[02:18] <markovh> that's great... my originall question was WHY was it removed
[02:18] <markovh> it was avail in oneiric btw
[02:18] <zykotick9> markovh: that so long ago.  do you expect anyone to remember?
[02:18] <Ben64> sometimes packages get removed because they don't get updated
[02:18] <zykotick9> markovh: sorry, ya i didn't check oneiric!  my bad.
[02:19] <wuhei101> 我也进来了
[02:19] <markovh> Ben64: right but i'm wondering if there was a specific reason, i do realise if they don't get updated, they're removed (or for various other reasons)
[02:19] <Ben64> you'd probably have to talk to a package maintainer or something
[02:20] <zykotick9> markovh: does the reason really matter?  it's not in ubuntu repo anymore, so you can A) not use it or B) get it from out of repo...
[02:21] <themindbenders> hi
[02:21] <DaemonicApathy> Hello.
[02:21] <markovh> zykotick9: i'm curious? dude if you didn't know the answer that's all you had to say (or just not answer) I was just wondering if anyone happened to know
[02:21] <wuhei101> hello
[02:21] <themindbenders> i am using first time
[02:21] <themindbenders> time
[02:21] <DaemonicApathy> Welcome to Ubuntu! :-)
[02:21] <wuhei101> so do i
[02:22] <nerd> ubuntu-server uses ubuntu LTS version as it's base ?
[02:22] <zykotick9> markovh: it's on ot issue... see "/msg ubottu ot" for details ;)
[02:22] <themindbenders> ya u i know
[02:22] <DaemonicApathy> nerd: Ubuntu server 12.04 does.
[02:22] <Ben64> nerd: you can get ubuntu server in any version, but the latest is LTS
[02:22] <themindbenders> then
[02:22] <themindbenders> hi cell
[02:23] <zykotick9> themindbenders: i'm gonna send you 3 messages from ubottu
[02:23] <zykotick9> !ask > themindbenders
[02:23] <nerd> ok
[02:23] <zykotick9> !enter > themindbenders
[02:23] <themindbenders> ok send me
[02:23] <zykotick9> !u > themindbenders
[02:23] <themindbenders> what is this man
[02:24] <zykotick9> themindbenders: just ask your question all on one line.  and use ENTER less.  and don't use "u" for "you" ;)
[02:24] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9: does that PM redirection work from PM with the bot?
[02:25] <WeThePeople> would it be possible to reinstall x11 or the xorg-server to my ubuntu on my hdd with a live cd?
[02:26] <Ben64> WeThePeople: why not do it from command line on your installation
[02:26] <devdel> I am trying to find a guide for setting up my ubuntu computer as a router/firewall/nat/dhcp -server
[02:27] <WeThePeople> ben64, how
[02:27] <devdel> Any info where I can read about it?
[02:27] <Nsmurf> If anyone has experince buying from ZaReason, onec a computer is out of stock, do they ever restock it?  If so, how long does it usualaly take?
[02:27] <Ben64> WeThePeople: when you start the computer, what happens?
[02:27] <WeThePeople> devde1, 'Linux Bible'
[02:28] <WeThePeople> ben64, i go to grub boot menu then select the kernel i want but ubuntu gui doesnt boot, i can only boot to tty
[02:29] <Ben64> WeThePeople: then you can just do something like "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[02:29] <WeThePeople> ben64, it says it needs to run in low graphics mode
[02:29] <WeThePeople> ben64, thats what i was thinkin :)
[02:29] <DaemonicApathy> WeThePeople: You don't need much in the way of graphics for a tty. ;-)
[02:30] <Ben64> sounds more like you have a graphics driver problem
[02:30] <DaemonicApathy> WeThePeople: Out of curiosity, does it do anything when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F7?
[02:31] <WeThePeople> ben64, or a install --reinstall :)
[02:31] <WeThePeople> daemonicapathy, idk nvr tried
[02:32] <JayRizzle> Can anyone out there help me with an install issue?
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> !ask | JayRizzle
[02:32] <zykotick9> !anyone | JayRizzle
[02:33] <zykotick9> JayRizzle: also see "/msg ubottu details"
[02:33] <JayRizzle> Sorry about that. I am having an issue with my hardware -- I think it's too new. I have a 2700k i7. I have a gtx 580 3gb card and a new motherboard.
[02:33] <tonsofpcs> !!flooding the channel with ubottu quotes
[02:33] <JayRizzle> Everytime i try installing it just freezes on the install screen.
[02:33] <zykotick9> tonsofpcs: my bad.  sorry i'll stop.
[02:34] <DaemonicApathy> JayRizzle: What are the specs of the system?
[02:34] <tonsofpcs> JayRizzle: which install screen?
[02:34] <Nsmurf> Does anyone know how ZaReason sales work?  From what I see, it looks like  once a computer is out of stock, they never restock it.
[02:35] <themindbenders> how to bruteforce a rar file?
[02:35] <zykotick9> JayRizzle: do you use nvidia / ati?
[02:35] <WeThePeople> daemonicapathy, at what point should i hit crl alt f7 ?
[02:35] <zykotick9> JayRizzle: if so, you might want to see "/msg ubottu nomodeset"
[02:35] <blackshirt> thereminder, what the mean bruteforce?
[02:35] <JayRizzle> I just said the specs of the system. I get past the GRUB and the BIOS, but when it says "Installing ubuntu" with the ubuntu background, it looks like ubuntu, but just freezes.
[02:35] <JayRizzle> I am using nvidea.
[02:36] <DaemonicApathy> WeThePeople: when you are in tty1
[02:36] <themindbenders> means cracking password by hit and trial method is known as bruteforce.
[02:36] <WeThePeople> daemonicapathy, it boots tty2 for some reason
[02:36] <WeThePeople> but i will try in a few mins
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > JayRizzle grub is in a install by the way.
[02:36] <DaemonicApathy> WeThePeople: That's ok, from tty2 is ok.
[02:36] <Smackbook> is there a version of grep that returnns characters of context instead of lines?
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > JayRizzle
[02:37] <WeThePeople> all right be back in a flash :)
[02:37] <JayRizzle> I mean, I an install it to a partition on my HDD, but when I boot into that partition, it will load the main desktop, without icons.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> JayRizzle, YOu would only see grub on a installed ubuntu.
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> Are there supposed to be icons?
[02:37] <JayRizzle> Then it says something about the finalizing the install, then it just freezes.
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> Unless you have a multiloaded usb or something custom
[02:38] <tonsofpcs> JayRizzle: I'm guessing you have a BIOS configuration that blocks installation
[02:38] <themindbenders> how to crack rar file passwords?
[02:39] <themindbenders> jayrizzle:no he has a os error.
[02:39] <blackshirt> themindbenders, its depend how strong the password
[02:39] <zykotick9> JayRizzle: can you use a terminal?  (ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a vt then alt+f7 to get back to xorg)  what is the output of "lspci | grep -i vga"?
[02:40] <themindbenders> blackshirt:thanx buddy for replying
[02:40] <themindbenders> can you tell me the one method
[02:41] <blackshirt> some methods available... Bruteforce was one of the,
[02:41] <vander> hi I booted my ubuntu box running 12.04v and usb mouse is not responding I restarted the machine and still nothing, can anyone assist
[02:41] <vander> or explain how to reaquire the mouse drivers
[02:41] <themindbenders> vander:go to grub and press e
[02:42] <Ben64> vander: don't need mouse drivers. try unplugging the mouse, plug it back in, and then pastebin the output of the command "dmesg"
[02:42] <themindbenders> and add i8042 before splash.
[02:42] <DaemonicApathy> vander, have you tried unplugging the receiver and plugging it back in? Does wonders for my headset.
[02:43] <JayRizzle> I install it fine.
[02:43] <JayRizzle> That's not the issue.
[02:43] <JayRizzle> I am trying to boot into it.
[02:43] <JayRizzle> When i boot into it, the main screen jst freezes
[02:43] <JayRizzle> It doesn't allow me to do anything,
[02:44] <themindbenders> jayrizzle:which version right now you are using?
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> JayRizzle, Did you see the bots message on nomodeset, and zykotick9, suggestion.
[02:45] <ring0> themindbenders, i just remember fcrackzip, apparently not for rars tho ;)
[02:46] <goddard> can i install gnome 3.6 in 12.04?
[02:46] <goddard> or will it be back ported?
[02:46] <ring0> themindbenders, maybe crark
[02:46] <themindbenders> goddard:ya u can
[02:47] <goddard> themindbenders: is there a way to test and see if my installed exstensions will be compatable?
[02:47] <nerd> can we say ubuntu server's are somewhat stable like debian ?
[02:47] <themindbenders> ring0:thanx buddy can u suggest me a tutorial i never used craak
[02:47] <cdarn> # Byobu will try to auto-detect them.
[02:47] <cdarn> #LOGO="\o/"
[02:47] <cdarn> #MONITORED_DISK=/
[02:47] <cdarn> #DISK_IO_THRESHOLD=50
[02:47] <cdarn> #MONITORED_INTERFACE=eth0
[02:47] <FloodBot1> cdarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <goddard> nerd: ubuntu servers are very stable
[02:48] <ring0> themindbenders, i'd suggest the manual
[02:48] <nerd> goddard: can i make a live cd of the current installation of the current ubuntu system ?
[02:48] <themindbenders> ring0:waiting.
[02:49] <ring0> themindbenders, on what?
[02:49] <themindbenders> ring0:waiting for your link man.
[02:49] <goddard> nerd: no idea but maybe sounds to complicated to me
[02:49] <ring0> themindbenders, try google
[02:49] <goddard> nerd: ask ubuntu would probably know
[02:50] <blackshirt> nerd, thats possible
[02:50] <themindbenders> i tried suggest me by your end
[02:50] <|Anthony|> is Ctrl+Alt+Backspace disabled in ubuntu by default?
[02:50] <ring0> themindbenders, first google search result… http://crark.net/cRARk.html
[02:51] <Daekdroom> |Anthony|, yes
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> nerd, Check out  Remastersys there are several others methods I believe.
[02:51] <themindbenders> ring0:let me check
[02:51] <nerd> cool, :)
[02:51] <|Anthony|> that's what i thought. thanks for confirming Daekdroom
[02:52] <themindbenders> ring0: i am sending you a request ok add me now
[02:52] <JayRizzle> I looked at the suggestions, but it's not a BLACK SCREEN.
[02:52] <JayRizzle> It's more like a frozen screen.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> nerd, There are cloning methods as well for network distribution like clonezilla, be aware of driver issues in all of this though.
[02:54] <nerd> wilee-nilee: that's nice thing to know. :)
[02:54] <DaemonicApathy> Is it possible to include Esc in a keyboard shortcut? So far, I've had no luck with compiz or Ubuntu custom shortcuts including it.
[02:55] <cowsquad> how to check how many cores are in my cpu and how many threads per core in ubuntu?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> JayRizzle, I would try the nomodeset at the ubuntu grub and see if it works, don't overthink what might work to get you in.
[02:56] <zykotick9> cowsquad: "dmesg | grep -i cpu" should show SOME of that.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Or try ubuntu 2d at the login
[02:56] <zykotick9> cowsquad: see "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for more info
[02:59] <ring0> themindbenders, what are you talking about?
[02:59] <cowsquad> zykotick9, I know I have a dual core, which equal 2 cores right? how do I know how many thread per core?
[03:00] <Nautilus> could I get a little help with symlinking?  I have a file named drush in a folder named /home/brian/drush which I want to symlink from /local/bin ...  I don't think this is exactly right: sudo ln -s /home/brian/drush /local/bin
[03:00] <skpl^> hi i just installed burg using super-boot-manager and now i cant get into my system, it wants to boot in low-graphics mode can someone help me
[03:00] <zykotick9> cowsquad: check "/cat /proc/cpuinfo" how many cpus does it show?
[03:01] <DaemonicApathy> Nautilus: I don't know much about symlinking, but shouldn't that be /local/bin/ ?
[03:01] <ring0> Nautilus, cd /local/bin/ ; sudo ln -s /home/brian/drush
[03:02] <cowsquad>  cpu cores 2, cpu family 6. cpus not info about that
[03:02] <Nautilus> oh huh, I don't have a /local
[03:02] <zykotick9> cowsquad: i only have dual cores so i see a processor 0 and 1 that's it.
[03:03] <Nautilus> going off my 10.04 notes, have 12.04 now
[03:03] <skpl^> hi i just installed burg using super-boot-manager and now i cant get into my system, it wants to boot in low-graphics mode can someone help me
[03:03] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9: I believe the number of logical cores is listed as "siblings", no?
[03:03] <ring0> Nautilus, you propably mean /usr/local/bin
[03:03] <Nautilus> ring0: ohhh thats why I indented the second line in my notes ;)
[03:04] <cowsquad> i see the same thing
[03:04] <SparkyFlary> if my computer has a firewall that prevents being ping to, and someone wants to attack me at full power with pings of death, will my router and or modem bust?
[03:04] <ring0> Nautilus, link working?
[03:05] <Nautilus> ring0: darn, nope
[03:05] <Nautilus> can I list my ln's?
[03:06] <ClientAlive> my graphics drivers are wacked! I don't have 3D so all the other cool stuff I might want is not there. Can someone help? I have and nvidia card and when I try to install the closed source driver through Additional Drivers - it fails installation (or so it says). What do I do?
[03:06] <Vagabundo> Can someone tell me how to locate java runtime?
[03:06] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: "lscpi | grep -i vga"
[03:06] <IboS> ClientAlive: you could check on nvidia's website wether they distribute drivers for linux
[03:06] <ClientAlive> Output of lspci | grep VGA:  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 440] (rev a1):
[03:07] <ring0> Nautilus, you could all links on your system with find. but you probably don't want that. if you just want to verify the link you just created in /usr/local/bin, try ls -l /usr/local/bin/
[03:07] <ClientAlive> sorry, no colon on the end
[03:07] <DaemonicApathy> cowsquad, in the System Monitor, under System, how does it list the processor?
[03:07] <SparkyFlary> does ubuntu-server come secure enough to prevent DOS attacks on it when it's a webserver?
[03:07] <Nautilus> ring0: correct, thats what I wanted.  :)     lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 28 23:04 drush -> /home/brian/drush
[03:08] <goddard> SparkyFlary: ubuntu is intended as a plateform and that plateform with certain applications act as a web server but ubunt/linux isn't the server
[03:08] <Nautilus> ring0: maybe /home/brian/drush/drush ?
[03:08] <ClientAlive> lbo5: I know they do but seems I read somewhere that the newest one screws ubuntu up. Was hoping to get more info about it/ if there's a way or a certain version to use...
[03:09] <ring0> Nautilus, so the link does point to the file you mentioned before. i don't know, where the file you want to link is located :)
[03:09] <SparkyFlary> so I have to modify the firewall rules myself?
[03:09] <goddard> SparkyFlary: firewall rules don't prevent DOS attacks unless you are trying to prevent traffic coming in on certain ports
[03:09] <Nautilus> ring0: the folder is /home/brian/drush, the executable is /home/brian/drush/drush
[03:09] <Vagabundo> Can someone tell me how to locate java runtime?
[03:10] <Ben64> !nvidia | ClientAlive
[03:10] <ClientAlive> lbo5: I wish to we could diagnose the reason why the install fails with Additional Drivers - it could be important.
[03:10] <goddard> SparkyFlary: you need another application that helps prevent that stuff
[03:10] <ClientAlive> ok
[03:10] <goddard> SparkyFlary: and it also depends on what your trying to block
[03:10] <ring0> Nautilus, then delete the link in /usr/local/bin/ and create a new one with the appropriate location
[03:10] <goddard> or prevent abuse
[03:10] <Ben64> ClientAlive: oh I didn't see that before, it fails? does it give an error?
[03:11] <SparkyFlary> I'm trying to block punks who want to refresh the page on my future website a million times per second.
[03:11] <ClientAlive> Ben64: There is a log file...  Should I paste it?
[03:11] <Ben64> ClientAlive: pastebin, not paste in here
[03:11] <cowsquad> daemonicApathy, I use the command lscpu and that show me the threads per core
[03:11] <ClientAlive> Ben64: yes, of couse. one moment
[03:11] <goddard> SparkyFlary: what web server are you using
[03:11] <Nautilus> ring0: thanks! all set
[03:12] <ring0> Nautilus, you're welcome
[03:12] <DaemonicApathy> cowsquad, ah, ok. :-)
[03:12] <Vagabundo> Can someone tell me how to locate java runtime?
[03:12] <SparkyFlary> jetty is what I'm thinking of using
[03:12] <zykotick9> Vagabundo: assuming "java" is an executable.  "which java"
[03:13] <SparkyFlary> and yeah it uses java
[03:13] <cowsquad> daemonicApathy. it show under system monitor as processor 1 and 0
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> cowsquad. Fair enough. I was hoping it would be formatted similar to mine, and solve the issue handily. I learned lscpu from you. ;-)
[03:15] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: you're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet?
[03:16] <SparkyFlary> I just don't want to be hacked
[03:16] <SparkyFlary> and is it a good idea to use a firewall on my router?
[03:16] <ClientAlive> Ben64: jockey.log.1 (there exists a jockey.log but it is empty): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1248757/    It is enormous! Some things I not from it...  the last line of each paragraph in the beginning of the log. Line 1824 to end (roughly the last dozen lines).
[03:17] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: refreshing a page isn't hacking, and a firewall is a good idea in general
[03:17] <ClientAlive> Ben64: "...note from it..." <typo>
[03:17] <SparkyFlary> no but it's an attack
[03:17] <SparkyFlary> that I think can be prevented maybe..
[03:17] <|Anthony|> SparkyFlary, go check out pfsense
[03:18] <|Anthony|> SparkyFlary, if you're willing/able to have a dedicated firewall rig
[03:19] <Ben64> ClientAlive: you could try a nvidia driver ppa, but it is unsupported
[03:19] <skpl^> how can i stop my system from running in low graphics mode?
[03:20] <SparkyFlary> nah just found out DOS attacks are unavoidable
[03:21] <chris92> sparkyflary: they are - if you are using vpn's to connect to the internet
[03:22] <ClientAlive> Ben64: I just want to be sure if I use the right version driver. I heard that the latest one for my card screws up the system but I think that was about 6 mos ago it was written. There must be one version where 3D works and does not make system unstable.
[03:22] <chris92> SparkyFlary: you should try that possibly nobody gets your ip adress and avoid using vulnerable software like skype
[03:22] <mauryyyy> how can i use my laptop screen and an external screen at the same time, no a mirror, do i need an xorg.conf with a virtual resolution? i look and look and cant fine a solution without the possibility of braking my system
[03:22] <|Anthony|> SparkyFlary, blocking an ip from reaching your server will reduce the load on the server. the firewall will take the brunt of the attack. Which should allow your network more headroom to still serve the content. your isp should also be doing this on their end which would offload any of that potential burden to them
[03:22] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: i'd suggest a PPA over the nvidia.com driver ANY day!  it can be removed cleanly!
[03:23] <chris92> ClientAlive: which graphics card are you using, if I may ask?
[03:23] <Ben64> ClientAlive: I use the ppa here, but as I said, it's unsupported. And since you don't have a driver already, there might be additional steps to get it working. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[03:24] <ClientAlive> Ben64: ok. Thx.
[03:25] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: x-swat, ya try that.  i don't recommend using PPA ever, but i would to you right now.  ppa make your system unstable IMO, but i bet that x-swat ppa will support your card better.  best of luck.
[03:25] <trigger_kill> Minor issue, the printer icon is showing up in the task bar, even though nothing is printing. How do I get rid of it?
[03:25] <Ben64> much more recent version compared to ubuntu's
[03:25] <zykotick9> Ben64: +1
[03:26] <ClientAlive> zykotick9: right on.
[03:26] <Ben64> 295.40 on 12.04, 304.51 on x-swat
[03:28] <chris92> ben64: would you recommend the x-swat drivers over the 12.04.1 ones?
[03:30] <chris92> ben64: i mean, my gtx 460 runs with the 295.40
[03:30] <Ben64> chris92: depends. if you game a lot it might help
[03:30] <trism> we also have nvidia-experimental-304 in -proposed
[03:31] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: see trism above!
[03:31] <Ben64> but if you enable proposed, don't you get every proposed upgrade?
[03:31] <SparkyFlary> how fast of internet do I need to make a home webserver ?
[03:31] <zykotick9> Ben64:
[03:32] <zykotick9> Ben64: +1 doh
[03:32] <chris92> ben64: what gaming can u do on linux anyways ^^
[03:32] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: depends what you want to do with it
[03:32] <trism> Ben64: not if you pin them but it should be moving to -updates soon (and I see your point)
[03:32] <Ben64> chris92: I do a lot, and soon more with Steam on Linux :D
[03:32] <SparkyFlary> let's say 100,000 people a day
[03:32] <ch33z> my tits hurt
[03:32] <ch33z> :(
[03:32] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: 100mbit
[03:32] <chris92> ben64: well, yea, really looking forward to steam on linux
[03:32] <SparkyFlary> can a home DSL work or do i need better?
[03:33] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: you need much better
[03:33] <SparkyFlary> what about 10,000 people per day.?
[03:33] <chris92> SparkyFlary: I would recommend using a website hoster...
[03:33] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: what chris92 said
[03:33] <SparkyFlary> I don't want to pay
[03:33] <Ben64> home hosting isn't very professional
[03:34] <chris92> sparkyflary: there are free hosters available
[03:34] <SparkyFlary> yeah but those guys limit me a lot
[03:34] <chris92> sparkyflary: most of them dont even put adds on your website, and you even can put a domain on them
[03:34] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: what are you trying to host
[03:34] <ClientAlive> Ben64: Does the 3D rendering supposed to automatically be on? (Do I have to change a setting or something to enable it)?
[03:34] <SparkyFlary> with homesever I am as free as a bird
[03:35] <SparkyFlary> I want to make a video streaming site
[03:35] <Ben64> SparkyFlary: you'd still be limited by your ISP's rules
[03:35] <chris92> sparkyflary: if you really think you get 10k to 100k you could easily put adds on the site
[03:35] <ch33z> SparkyFlary good luck go google it
[03:35] <Ben64> ClientAlive: when the driver is active, yes
[03:35] <SparkyFlary> uh nevermind i meant 1000
[03:35] <Ben64> dsl doesn't have the bandwidth to stream video
[03:36] <SparkyFlary> uh what about static pages?
[03:36] <Ben64> well yeah that'd work,
[03:36] <chris92> sparkyflary: especially if you want to make a video streaming site, you need at least 2mbits of upload for ONE user to watch a 720p video
[03:36] <SparkyFlary> for 1000 people a day?
[03:36] <Ben64> it might be laggy, but it would work
[03:36] <SparkyFlary> yea scratch that video idea
[03:37] <chris92> SparkyFlary: depends on how many users try to access the site at the same time
[03:37] <SparkyFlary> aw man
[03:37] <SparkyFlary> let's say 20
[03:37] <Ben64> you should really get a webhost though. If you need one, I do some hosting on the side.
[03:37] <SparkyFlary> I want to do this for learning purpose
[03:38] <chris92> if you just want to learn how to code HTML and PHP, I'd suppose using LAMP
[03:38] <SparkyFlary> nah I'm using a cms
[03:38] <chris92> same thing
[03:39] <chris92> apache2, mysql and php5
[03:39] <chris92> should be all you need
[03:39] <Ben64> you forgot the L :P
[03:39] <chris92> huh?
[03:40] <Ben64> LAMP
[03:40] <chris92> umm... what was it
[03:40] <Ben64> Linux
[03:40] <chris92> oh
[03:40] <chris92> yea
[03:40] <chris92> :D
[03:40] <JayRizzle> I'm back again. I am using the live cd now. What's the command to change the nvidea setting thing again?
[03:41] <SparkyFlary> alright time to get to work then
[03:41] <chris92> nvidia-settings to open the nvidia settings center?
[03:41] <SparkyFlary> tnx for the helps
[03:42] <chris92> Ben64: I suppose he has some linux, as he is in the ubuntu channel obviously :P
[03:43] <Ben64> chris92: yeah i was just messing with you
[03:43] <chris92> ben64: yea I was like "what did I forget" :D
[03:47] <JayRizzle> Whats the button on a live cd to open up the options?
[03:49] <chris92> JayRizzle: which options do you want to open?
[03:50] <Smackbook> is there any linux tool that could help me extract binary blobs from xml files?  before I go reinvent the wheel writing a custom program to do this one thing?
[03:50] <Ben64> Smackbook: some combination of grep, awk, and sed?
[03:51] <Smackbook> but awk and sed only work on non-binary i think
[03:51] <Smackbook> well this is a mixed file
[03:51] <Smackbook> but the binary part is binary ;)
[03:51] <cksid> hey guys. What is the main ubuntu repository? I have tried googling but I can't find a list of exact addresses.
[03:52] <Smackbook> its where software comes from
[03:52] <cksid> i want the link
[03:52] <Smackbook> oh
[03:52] <Smackbook> 1s
[03:52] <cksid> i know what is IS, I need an address
[03:52] <cksid> lol
[03:52] <cksid> sorry
[03:52] <Smackbook> well you know it differs by distro
[03:53] <cksid> I know
[03:53] <cksid> I know what im doing. I just forgot the url
[03:53] <Ben64> Smackbook: is it base 64
[03:53] <cksid> I have to configure this one distro so i can safetly impliment some modifications on my ubuntu for my laptop haha
[03:53] <cksid> no
[03:53] <cksid> oh
[03:54] <cksid> not me
[03:54] <cksid> sorry
[03:54] <FloodBot1> cksid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <cksid> Alright, I wont.
[03:54] <chris92> cksid: probably http://archive.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <cksid> chris92: thanks, ill try that
[03:55] <Smackbook> cksid: also see a list of sources at /etc/apt/sources.list (i know this probably isn't what you wanted)
[03:55] <JayRizzle> s.
[03:56] <JayRizzle> I am looking for the option to change the nvidea settings.
[03:56] <JayRizzle> I forgot the term they used, but I know i had to toggle it before it booted.
[03:56] <chris92> JayRizzle: nvidia-settings
[03:56] <cksid> Smackbook: that works perfectly, thanks.
[03:57] <JayRizzle> No, i mean it's like.. how do i get to the boot options before the live cd starts?
[03:57] <chris92> ahh.. umm, its been quite a while  since I used a live cd
[03:59] <chris92> you should be able to read it once you boot from the live cd normally
[03:59] <chris92> arent there some options before the live environment starts?
[04:00] <morroc> so i am trying to fsck a memory drive. As soon as I plug it in my laptop memory card reader it open window manager showing the contents of the mem card. now if find the mount point using sudo fdisk -l and try to run the fsck command appropriately then it gives me warning that it might create errors. now if i unmount the mem card then what /dev/<somethin> or device i run my fsck command on ?
[04:01] <JayRizzle> i couldnt find it :(
[04:01] <morroc> basically need a way to find the path, etc of a unmounted device
[04:02] <chris92> JayRizzle: I'm not quite sure if there still are any preboot options on livecds
[04:02] <chris92> JayRizzle: but I cant tell for sure
[04:02] <chris92> JayRizzle: why do you need them so urgently?
[04:02] <rob_p> morroc: An easy way is to do, "df -h" while it's still mounted and take note of the device node...
[04:03] <morroc> rob_p : fixed it by using the umount command
[04:03] <rob_p> morroc: k
[04:03] <morroc> so clicking the eject button in the filemanager is not the same as using the umount command
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> JayRizzle If you are trying ti change the nvidia settings in the install you would have to chroot in from the cd to do this.
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> to*
[04:04] <morroc> thanks rob_p
[04:04] <rob_p> morroc: The end result is the same, but how it's accomplished is probably a bit different...
[04:04] <rob_p> morroc: welcome
[04:06] <JayRizzle> Wait, i got it!'
[04:06] <JayRizzle> But here's the thing.
[04:06] <JayRizzle> if I install it, how will I make the drivers for the graphics work?
[04:07] <chris92> JayRizzle: you can activate the proprietary driver after the instalö
[04:07] <chris92> *install
[04:08] <DaemonicApathy> There's usually a notification for that in the upper right, as soon as installation is complete.
[04:08] <chris92> JayRizzle: The icon looks like a graphics  card with a lock in front of it
[04:09] <chris92> JayRizzle: as DaemonicApathy said, its in the upper right corner, in the notification area, once you boot the finished installation
[04:09] <ClientAlive> Ben64: I decided to try the repo route to install the driver. I found something on ask ubuntu where the guy talks about deleting a few files after rebooting (apparently it will reboot into a tty). Then delete files and reboot. Anyhow, when I did the driver install I notice some output. Do you know what it means?  http://pastebin.com/NSZNgMka
[04:11] <ClientAlive> Ben64: This is the ask ubuntu article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142672/just-installed-ubuntu-12-04-when-booting-all-i-get-is-a-black-screen-with-curs    (first answer after the original post)
[04:11] <ClientAlive> what do you think?
[04:11] <chris92> ClientAlive: it seems like the installer is checking for driver modules in the kernel and doesnt find any, thats how I interpret it
[04:12] <ClientAlive> chris92: That's how I interpret it too. What I wonder is if that is a problem. If I need to address that module issue and see if I need to install it or something. What do you think?
[04:12] <chris92> ClientAlive: im not sure, but it could be just a simple check if there are some older drivers installed
[04:12] <gnomefreak> win 0
[04:12] <gnomefreak> damn
[04:13] <ClientAlive> chris92: Oh. Then a "module" is just the driver itself? I thought it was something separate from the driver.
[04:13] <chris92> ClientAlive: "- Installing to /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/updates/dkms/" seems like its installing the module on its own - dont think you have to worry
[04:13] <ClientAlive> chris92: I see. thx
[04:14] <ClientAlive> well, ere goes nothing   :)
[04:16] <durando> i just got a samsung rv515 notebook and cannot seem to get the touchpad working with ubuntu 12.04.  the touchpaf is barely reponsive when i try to navigate sround the screen and is unusable
[04:20] <ClientAlive> my driver It installed and rebooting went fine, still have a graphical environment to go into, but it doesn't look like 3D rendering is working yet. Idk how to interpret glxinfo to tell if it is or isn't. Does someone know how to read glxinfo?
[04:20] <chris92> what graphics card are you using, clientalive?
[04:21] <NiteRain> ClientAlive: glxinfo | grep -i "direct render"
[04:22] <ClientAlive> There is a line very near the top that says "direct rendering: Yes"  Is that it?
[04:22] <arijit> !tab
[04:23] <ClientAlive> NiteRain:
[04:23] <NiteRain> trying to compile a program, and I am getting an "undefined reference to 'forkptk'  however libutil is installed
[04:24] <NiteRain> ClientAlive: what is your opengl using?
[04:24] <NiteRain> take off the direct from the previous statement
[04:25] <ClientAlive> NiteRain: will do, but, what is opengl?
[04:25] <NiteRain> it is a graphics library
[04:25] <chris92> durando: I think I found sth regarding your issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788155
[04:26] <ClientAlive> chris92: it is an gt 440 (nvidia)
[04:26] <ClientAlive> chris92: evga gt 440
[04:27] <chris92> ClientAlive: so one of the "newer" ones being over a year old already, hm
[04:28] <ClientAlive> NiteRain: output of glxinfo | grep -i "render": http://paste.ubuntu.com/1248839/
[04:28] <NiteRain> Cool you are using your card
[04:28] <ClientAlive> chris92: I'm not surprised - I was shooting for middle-of-the-road
[04:29] <ClientAlive> NiteRain: ok. Well is it using 3D rendering then?
[04:30] <NiteRain> Thos two lines say you are using your card
[04:30] <NiteRain> which is good for 3d acceleration
[04:30] <NiteRain> if you were using software, it would have said Software Rasterizer
[04:31] <chris92> clientalive: are you using pure ubuntu?
[04:31] <NiteRain> the first line tells you that 3D rendering is handled, and it is not handled by X
[04:32] <chris92> if so, please paste the output of "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p"
[04:32] <ClientAlive> NiteRain: Oookk. Now here is the thing. The reason I was tyring to make sure of that is because my gnome 3 is really screwed up. When I talked to the guys on #gnome yesterday, someone told me it's because my gnome is in "fallback mode" and that it does that when there is no 3D. So now I'm hearing that 3D is ok, but I'm seeing that gnome has not changed. Not sure what to do.
[04:33] <ClientAlive> chris92: This is ubuntu server 12.04 then installed gnome 3 (I thought it was gnome 3 but maybe that why it not having all the thnigs it's supposed to).
[04:33] <NiteRain> ClientAlive: yeah, sounds like the issue I was having on Gentoo
[04:34] <chris92> ClientAlive: ahh okay
[04:34] <durando> hey chris92 thanks ill read a bit see if i can get it going for now using a mouse ugh
[04:34] <ClientAlive> NiteRain: hmm...
[04:35] <ClientAlive> should I go back to #gnome you think?
[04:35] <chris92> durando: it seems like the fix should've already been merged with the kernel tho :/
[04:35] <chris92> ClientAlive: which gnome 3 version are you trying to use?
[04:37] <ClientAlive> chris92: I'm not even sure if it is versoin 3. I installed it from the ubuntu repos (I think). When the computer starts up though I see a Debian screen for the grub screen/ boot menu.
[04:37] <chris92> ClientAlive: that seems... strange
[04:37] <ClientAlive> I thougt so too
[04:37] <chris92> ClientAlive: is that the same you installed? http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[04:37] <chris92> ClientAlive: it should open the Ubuntu Software Center
[04:38] <ClientAlive> chris92: I had added this repository that was supposed to have the "good gnome" the did a sudo apt-get install... but not sure where gnome really came from.
[04:39] <ClientAlive> chris92: I don't think I have software center (been using synaptic)
[04:39] <Avinash> hello there ..
[04:39] <chris92> hello avinash =)
[04:40] <chris92> ClientAlive: oh okay.
[04:40] <Avinash> Hi chris .. How are you
[04:40] <chris92> Avinash: fine, but this is not the right place for smalltalk =)
[04:40] <ClientAlive> chris92: browser reports that the address isn't understood
[04:41] <Avinash> yah .. I'm just trying to start to a friendly conversation regarding the installation of Ubuntu ...
[04:41] <chris92> ClientAlive: thought so, it was supposed to open the Ubuntu Software Center, which probably isnt installed, because you started with ubuntu server
[04:41] <chris92> Avinash: ahh okay =) How can I help you with your installation?
[04:42] <Avinash> I'm getting an Error after installing the ubuntu 12.04
[04:42] <Avinash> It shows me Grub error ..
[04:42] <ClientAlive> chris92: oh. Well if I removed gnome then installed it again through synaptic woudld it hurt the system? I mean to have a time where you remove the de altogether like that?
[04:42] <Avinash> I lost all my data  .. sadly
[04:42] <chris92> avinash: which grub error did you get?
[04:43] <jhonnyboy> hey all, trying to restart my networking interfaces thru terminal. Tried using /etc/init.d/networking restart however it just seems to freeze and doesn't do anything…so does stop. Any other ideas?
[04:43] <Avinash> I exactly don't remember .. but it shows me during the system boot up
[04:43] <chris92> jhonnyboy: that command is deprecated. rather use "sudo services network-manager restart"
[04:43] <Avinash> I lost my windows Xp which is on the same partion of harddrive
[04:44] <crimsonmane> jhonnyboy: "ifconfig wan0 up"
[04:44] <jhonnyboy> chris92: Thanks! tried that but still nothing, terminal just blinks after i enter the command like it's not responding
[04:44] <ClientAlive> chris92: output of dpkg -l | gnome has a line in it that reads - "ii  gnome                                  1:3.0+6ubuntu3                          The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components"  Does that tell anything about whether it's gnome 3 or some earlier version? Whether it's gnome from the ubuntu repositories of some other place?
[04:45] <chris92> 3.0+6ubuntu3
[04:45] <chris92> look at the first part ;)
[04:45] <ClientAlive> ok
[04:45] <chris92> its definitely gnome 3.0
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Avinash: "lost xp"?
[04:46] <Avinash> yes ..
[04:46] <ClientAlive> I wonder if I can remove it then try to install gnome from a different repo (maybe a better gnome or something)
[04:46] <chris92> Avinash: you shouldn't install ubuntu on the same partition as windows, because you have to format your partition in order to install ubuntu anyways
[04:47] <Avinash> can you please provide me the link to other distros ..
[04:47] <chris92> ClientAlive: I think removing gnome would give you a pure ubuntu-server again
[04:47] <jhonnyboy> chris92: seems to be gnome 2.0
[04:47] <cfhowlett> chris92: ???  MOST dual booters install windows/ubuntu side by side
[04:47] <jhonnyboy> I see libgnome-2.0
[04:47] <chris92> cfhowlett: yea, but not on the exact same partition
[04:47] <chris92> cfhowlett: that is not possible
[04:48] <cfhowlett> chris92: ah.  missed the partitioning part.
[04:48] <chris92> cfhowlett: np
[04:48] <Avinash> @chris : I installed ubuntu using wubi.exe .. since I got no space in my other partions .. I need to install in the same partion where Xp is resided
[04:49] <chris92> Avinash: doesnt wubi partition your hard drive?
[04:49] <crimsonmane> wubi does not partition your drive because it installs ubuntu as a program instead of an OS
[04:49] <chris92> crimsonmane: ahh okay
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Avinash: I'd almost suspect your xp is still present.  Do you mean it doesn't appear on the grub menu when you boot?
[04:50] <Avinash> no ..
[04:50] <chris92> Avinash: you should be able to access your windows xp when you have a windows install cd
[04:50] <Avinash> ah .. no ..
[04:50] <chris92> cfhowlett: he gets a grub error upon booting
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Avinash: by the way, wubi is a TESTING platform NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth wubi development team.  Consider dual booting or virtualization
[04:51] <Avinash> after rebooting the PC .. what I can see a black screen with grub error .. that's all no boot menu
[04:51] <Avinash> is displayed
[04:52] <chris92> Avinash: don't panic, there is a way to access your windows xp
[04:52] <Avinash> sorry for my poor english .. it's not my mother tongue
[04:52] <chris92> Avinash: you just need a windows xp disc, do you have one?
[04:52] <Avinash> yep
[04:53] <chris92> Avinash: there should be an option called "recovery console" or sth similar
[04:53] <Avinash> ok ..
[04:53] <chris92> Avinash: in that recovery console, use the command "fixmbr"
[04:53] <Avinash> but How do I get into ubuntu
[04:53] <Avinash> I mean I want use Ubuntu
[04:54] <Nsmurf> You could make a Live CD to test it out.
[04:54] <chris92> Avinash: can you tell us the exact "grub error" you are getting?
[04:54] <chris92> Avinash: that would help a lot
[04:54] <Avinash> ok. .. please give me a moment
[04:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo> couldn't you use a live cd to reinstall GRUB to /dev/sda or whichever disk it's installed on?
[04:54] <ledah> hello.. i have a grub error
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> I would have Avinash run the bootscript, this has a bit of conjecture with the info given, before advising.
[04:55] <ledah> and i can't restore the windows one
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> ledah, Do you have a live ubuntu cd?
[04:56] <ledah> a kubuntu one and a supergrub one
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> ledah, Can you give some info leading up to this IE is there a ubuntu install as of now on the disc, and what is your goal here.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> !pm > Avinash
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> Avinash, PLease use the channel all our help is best. ;)
[04:57] <ledah> i just reinstalled kubuntu and the grub jumped at grub rescue
[04:58] <ledah> i have win 7 in the other partition
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> ledah, so you want the kubuntu, is it that you want the windows bootloader to use with say easybcd to boot with?
[04:59] <johndoeeee> I booted ubuntu from a serpeate partition and it just freezes on the splashscreen. What do I do?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> johndoeeee, Fresh install?  what is the background here?
[05:00] <ledah> okay.. somehow i can enter with the supergrub to kubuntu... but the grub is still damaged
[05:01] <johndoeeee> i installed onto a fresh partition, windows on the same partition.
[05:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo> wilee-nilee: got BURG installed! Though, how do I check how groups look in the emu?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> ledah, Have you ran sudo update-grub in kubuntu or is it ksudo I'm not sure?  Have you modified grub as well?
[05:01] <johndoeeee> when i booted using the boot loader, i got to the ubuntu splash screen
[05:01] <johndoeeee> then, it just freezes.
[05:01] <johndoeeee> i can't log in, click or anyting,
[05:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo> F activates folded mode, but I can't seem to open the folded menus
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, Not sure what emu means
[05:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo> emulator
[05:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo> burg-emu
[05:02] <chris92> johndoeeee: how long is it stuck already?
[05:02] <johndoeeee> It just stays stuck on the splashcreen forever.
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, I use a different install of burg that loads the images and just boots with a choice I don't have the emulator installed so I can't really help with that.
[05:03] <ledah> it does matter that i left the boot in sd7 while root is on sda5?
[05:03] <hmmwhatsthisdo> wilee-nilee: do you use folded mode?
[05:03] <ledah> i cannot access.. says there is no space
[05:04] <Avinash> @chris .. I decided to install a fresh copy of ubuntu on my pc along with xp ..
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, no, I have it installed via using burg in a multiload usb loader, it is in the OS where grub is so can be used to boot the OS.
[05:04] <chris92> avinash: okay, does it work?
[05:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I meant as in like kernels (all ubuntu's stuff, all Windows' stuff, etc.) are grouped
[05:05] <cfhowlett> Avinash: in wubi...
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> johndoeeee, YOu can't install windows and ubuntu on the same partition unless you use wubi is this the case, and you get a black screen from the ubuntu choice in the MS boot?
[05:05] <Avinash> @chris .. yet to install .. what am I trying to say is .. I really don't the grub part in ubuntu ..
[05:05] <Avinash> I really pissed me off .. :)
[05:06] <Avinash> *I really don't understand the grub part in ubuntu ..*
[05:07] <chris92> Avinash: grub is basically the boot loader. its just a piece of software where you can decide what you want to boot
[05:07] <abgeek> how to enable vgaswitcher on ubuntu
[05:07] <Avinash> ok ..
[05:07] <chris92> Avinash: it is necessary if you dual-boot with windows.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, If you give me the link to your burg install I can take a look to see if I maybe understand whats up.
[05:08] <ledah> how much i should leave for root?
[05:08] <vicatcu> hey all, i'm struggling to figure out how to run tftpd-hpa, can someone help me?
[05:08] <vicatcu> please
[05:08] <johndoeeee> sorry, they're not on the same partitiion.. i have an 80gb wd drive that i just filed with ubuntu
[05:09] <vicatcu> here is the gist: https://gist.github.com/3803235
[05:09] <cairne> is it possible to dual monitor with external and internal graphics card?
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | johndoeeee
[05:10] <wubino> how can I play an mp3 from the commandline?
[05:11] <johndoeeee> how do i get to that?
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> johndoeeee, Do you have the ubuntu bootloader on the same installed HD's mbr?
[05:11] <johndoeeee> ubuntu bootloader
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> !who
[05:12] <chris92> vicatcu - are you trying to setup a netboot installation?
[05:12] <vicatcu> so that i can download files from it using tftp
[05:12] <vicatcu> no i'm trying to run a tftp server
[05:12] <johndoeeee> I booted into recovery mode...
[05:12] <Avinash> @chris .. thanks for help & also for advice ..
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> please use nicks when you answer folks it highlights this to whom it is directed it makes it easier to follow what's going on
[05:12] <vicatcu> chris92: no i'm trying to run a tftp server so that I can download files from it over tftp
[05:13] <chris92> vicatcu: ah okay
[05:13] <Avinash> Have a Good day guys .. Happy ubuntu-ing  :)
[05:13] <vicatcu> chris92: can you help me?
[05:13] <chris92> !pm | vicatcu
[05:14] <chris92> woops
[05:14] <chris92> wrong command, sry
[05:14] <chris92> look at your query :)
[05:14] <vicatcu> chris92: did I not ask the question in the channel?
[05:15] <chris92> sorry, my bad, ignore the text ^^
[05:15] <chris92> just look at the private message I sent you
[05:16] <chris92> vicatcu: I can just post it here as well... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer - the "Configure tftpd-hpa" section could be useful for you
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> johndoeeee, I would be glad to help you, but we have to be on the same page.
[05:18] <andromedas> could anyone help me with ATI drivers?
[05:19] <chris92> anyone the ubottu command for ati? i really should mess around with him, i dont really know the commands :D
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> andromedas, The channel works as you lay out your problem in the form of a question. ;)
[05:20] <andromedas> Ok, so I have to use the fglrx-legacy driver, and I got it from the amd website and unzipped it and ran the installer, but it tells me that I dont have enough free space for the selected options (free space: 138 MB, estimated size: 238 MB)
[05:21] <codyps> andromedas: then free up some space?
[05:21] <andromedas> what am i doing wrong? I'm running the installer out of my /home/xxxx directory, and it has over 200 GB
[05:21] <hmmwhatsthisdo> wilee-nilee: do you know how to force BURG to use a certain resolution?
[05:21] <andromedas> all my partitions have at least 1 GB
[05:22] <codyps> andromedas: so `df -h` says they all have a bunch of space?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, In my set up at the burg boot screen is a resolution choice with key press f3 I think otherwise a force no
[05:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> damnit. Mine only has 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 available
[05:23] <quazimodo> does 12.04 use iptables?
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> andromedas, Just for reference partitions should be no more then 70% full for optimal use.
[05:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and on a 1366x768 that looks like crap
[05:23] <vooze> Is there a IRC channel for the ubuntu gnome remix ?
[05:23] <codyps> quazimodo: yes
[05:24] <quazimodo> codyps: service iptables foo does not work, is this to be expected?
[05:24] <andromedas> codyps: something doesn't look right about this http://i.imgur.com/LSHUF.png
[05:24] <andromedas> wilee-nilee: none of them are past 60% http://i.imgur.com/LSHUF.png
[05:24] <codyps> andromedas: '/' only has 138 MB.
[05:25] <andromedas> why are there two '/'?
[05:25] <codyps> andromedas: Which is why the installer is complaining.
[05:25] <codyps> andromedas: 'rootfs' is an alias.
[05:25] <codyps> you can ignore it (presently)
[05:25] <quazimodo> hrm
[05:26] <codyps> quazimodo: does not work how?
[05:26] <andromedas> so do I have to drop down to rc1, fsdisk and all that jazz?
[05:26] <quazimodo> codyps: am i to expect 12.04 to drop remote http requests then?
[05:26] <codyps> quazimodo: only if you've set it up to do so. I don't recall their being a default firewall.
[05:26] <andromedas> and just wondering, are things like drivers supposed to be installed in the / folder?
[05:26] <quazimodo> by default, as I cant get forwarded traffic to get to the machine on port 3000 (rails app), local network machines are fine
[05:26] <cfhowlett> quazimodo: firewall is NOT enabled by default
[05:27] <codyps> quazimodo: Try using 'wireshark' to see if you're getting data.
[05:27] <quazimodo> cfhowlett: thats what I thought. This forward is broken
[05:27] <cfhowlett> quazimodo: wish I could help, but it's over my head.  sorry.
[05:28] <quazimodo> no probs
[05:28] <cowslammer> can someone tell me where to get java these days?
[05:29] <codyps> quazimodo: what do you mean by "this forward"?
[05:29] <Ben64> cowslammer: software center
[05:29] <codyps> cowslammer: apt-get, same as always.
[05:29] <codyps> or that
[05:29] <codyps> ah, ubuntu.
[05:29] <vooze> cowslammer: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[05:30] <AddisonE> Whenever I reboot ubuntu, the dev/null permissions are set to 600. If I call 'udevadm trigger', it sets them correctly. I don't know if something is overriding udev or if udev isn't running correctly in the first place. Does anyone know a way to debug this?
[05:31] <codyps> AddisonE: If you change them with chmod & then reboot, they go back to '600'?
[05:31] <AddisonE> Yeah.
[05:32] <pentagon> How do I download the source of packages?
[05:32] <codyps> AddisonE: can you pastebin the output of `mount`?
[05:33] <Ben64> AddisonE: can you paste the output of "ls -l /dev/null"
[05:34] <AddisonE> crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Sep 29 00:14 null
[05:34] <AddisonE> codyps: http://pastebin.com/M3xb6c4W Is that what you're referring to?
[05:35] <codyps> AddisonE: yep.
[05:35] <folorn> hrm anyone who know's some about tar and how to use it mind answering a question: ?
[05:35] <Ben64> the dev line differs from mine
[05:35] <AddisonE> It seems to be the whole dev directory I believe. I've seen some error messages about dev/random not working.
[05:35] <Ben64> none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime) vs none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[05:36] <codyps> folorn: just ask.
[05:37] <folorn> well thats just it i want to extract the files from the .tar
[05:37] <folorn> but dunno how i keep getting a whole bunch of errors
[05:37] <codyps> AddisonE: my dev also shows 'mode=0755'. Perhaps if we can locate where it is set...
[05:37] <folorn> cody
[05:37] <codyps> folorn: pastebin the errors & the command you tried
[05:37] <folorn> lemme alright 1min be well ya about 2min thanks cody
[05:38] <AddisonE> Yeah that might be it. I'm a bit new to linux so what would be the best way to go about it?
[05:39] <codyps> AddisonE: could you pastebin the output of `ls -ld /dev/null`? (just checking up on 1 other thing)
[05:40] <AddisonE> crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Sep 29 00:14 null
[05:40] <codyps> hrm.
[05:42] <codyps> AddisonE: can you look at /lib/init/fstab?
[05:43] <AddisonE>             0 0
[05:43] <AddisonE> none            /dev                      devtmpfs,tmpfs  mode=0755
[05:43] <AddisonE> Is that the line that would be needed, or would you like to see the whole thing?
[05:43] <folorn> dunno hmm i just simply wanna extract the tar file if its not damaged now from me screwing with it.
[05:43] <witakr> Hello folks
[05:44] <witakr> Does anyone know why gmail and google plus is soooooooo slooooow in chrome using Ubuntu?
[05:44] <chris92> hi witakr
[05:44] <codyps> folorn: What is the name of the file you are trying to extract?
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> witakr, Have you checked the memory or cpu use during this slow running access?
[05:46] <folorn> any ideas ?
[05:46] <witakr> wilee-nilee, No, I didn't give that a thought because I only experience the drag when using chrom to access those two sites.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> witakr, you can run top, or install htop and run them from a terminal, that would be where I started.
[05:47] <chris92> folorn: tar -xvf FILENAME.tar
[05:47] <quazimodo> codyps: sory was analysing. It appears the router is port forwarding, my machine just isnt responding. Something somewhere on this computer is preventing it
[05:48] <witakr> wilee-nilee, okiedoke
[05:49] <folorn> ahh hrm chris92 and codyps
[05:49] <folorn> it wont extract it gives me a list of errors i got the errors again i went tar xf filename.tar and got this
[05:49] <folorn> vpasteing
[05:50] <Gillerire> hey all
[05:50] <chris92> hey Gillerire
[05:51] <Gillerire> I have just downloaded the Ubuntu iso
[05:51] <Gillerire> how to I make that onto a CD to install Ubuntu?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> Gillerire: congrats!
[05:51] <Gillerire> into*
[05:51] <Tigerboy> Hi
[05:51] <skai-falkorr> Gillerire: burn to cd?
[05:51] <Gillerire> haha, cheers cfhowlett
[05:51] <witakr> wilee-nilee, Welp... I'm seeing a jump in CPU to upto 57% and Memory upto 14% momentarily but it drops back down just as fast... this was when I loaded google plus
[05:52] <Gillerire> I'm on windows btw
[05:52] <Gillerire> just burn the iso onto a CD?
[05:52] <witakr> Gillerire, for shame!
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Gillerire: or create a boot USB
[05:52] <chris92> Gillerire: use imgburn or a similar program to burn the .iso image
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> witakr, Google plus is running a lot of script, use FF with ot when needed and block most with noscript, chrome has a java blocker as well.
[05:53] <Tigerboy> Gillerire: you can also consider using a USB drive to save a CDROM
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> I use*
[05:53] <Gillerire> witakr, I'm trying to change :)
[05:53] <quazimodo> codyps: you ran away?
[05:53] <Gillerire> yeh, I would Tigerboy but the comp I'm installing onto wont boot off USB
[05:53] <witakr> Gillerire, dON'T LIKE UBUNTU?
[05:53] <skai-falkorr> witakr: check chrome://gpu page.
[05:53] <codyps> quazimodo: temporary death
[05:53] <witakr> wilee-nilee, ok cool thanks
[05:53] <codyps> quazimodo: what did i miss?
[05:54] <witakr> skai-falkorr, ok
[05:54] <quazimodo> hrm
[05:54] <quazimodo> the requests get to this machine, but stuff originating outside the lan isnt being served
[05:54] <quazimodo> for some reason its dropping the packets, and I haven't a clue why
[05:54] <folorn> hmm this was the error i got when i tried tar xf and tar xvf  http://vpaste.net/gk6bk so what exactly am i doing wrong then?
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> witakr, I forget the name of the addon but it shows up if you search them with noscript, there are several
[05:54] <skai-falkorr> witakr: if there any red line on - you doin it wring^_^
[05:54] <skai-falkorr> *wrong
[05:55] <codyps> folorn: you don't have permissions to create a directory.
[05:55] <Tigerboy> Gillerire: ooo ok well double check the bios maybe you can change the boot order... sometimes only one of the USB ports will act as a boot and you must have the bootable in the port at the time you go to bios to change the boot order
[05:55] <Gillerire> Tigerboy: oh really!?
[05:56] <witakr> skai-falkorr, No red whatsoever
[05:56] <Gillerire> might try that first cause I already have Ubuntu on a USB
[05:56] <witakr> wilee-nilee, I'll check it out.. I'm sure I will be able to find what you mean
[05:56] <Tigerboy> Gillerire: yes else the USB won't appear as an option
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Gillerire: he's right.  I found that out on my Dell
[05:56] <codyps> quazimodo: Is the machine the gateway to the lan? ie: WAN <-> machine <-> lan, ie: it sits between?
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> Gillerire, There is also a out of the bios boot from choice you might look up the key press at powering on mine is f12.
[05:56] <skai-falkorr> Gillerire: some bios puts usb onto hdd boot order menu. try to look at hdd boot order
[05:56] <codyps> quazimodo: or does it possibly have more than 1 network interface?
[05:57] <Gillerire> I tried with the USB on the front, but I'll try with one on the back
[05:57] <Tigerboy> Many high end toshiba laptops will only boot from one of the usb ports and again must have the bootable inserted prior to going to bios to set the boot to the USB
[05:57] <skai-falkorr> witakr: no red or yellow? only green? so go to chrome://flags and turn on gpu compositing oin pages^_^ to relief your cpu
[05:58] <ledah> ok i reinstalled kubuntu and recovered the grub thx everyone for the help here
[05:58] <Tigerboy> most pcs in the past 5 years have usb boot as an option
[05:58] <Gillerire> this one is more that 5 years old :)
[05:59] <skai-falkorr> Gillerire: dont worry. i've booted 8 years old pc with 12.10 (with 256mb ram and usb 1.1) that was.... unpleasant
[06:00] <witakr> skai-falkorr, Yellow: Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable erated && CSS Animation: Software animated.
[06:00] <witakr> skai-falkorr, The rest is green
[06:00] <skai-falkorr> witakr: thats it
[06:00] <Tigerboy> Gillerire: nice ok well check this out: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16822/boot-from-a-usb-drive-even-if-your-bios-wont-let-you/
[06:01] <skai-falkorr> witakr: go to chrome://flags and chose override software rendering list or something like it
[06:01] <skai-falkorr> Override software rendering list
[06:01] <skai-falkorr> witakr: then restart and check chrome://gpu
[06:01] <witakr> ok one sec
[06:01] <Gillerire> cheers guys
[06:02] <witakr> later windows user
[06:02] <Gillerire> I'm waiting for a HDD to finish formatting and then I'll give everything a go
[06:02] <witakr> lol
[06:03] <witakr> skai-falkorr, Ok now only CSS Animation is yellow
[06:04] <ledah> is possible to  make a program to output through the front jack and other from the back jack?
[06:04] <skai-falkorr> witakr: you can look at flags for css animations flags ^_^
[06:04] <skai-falkorr> ledah: yes
[06:05] <ledah> how so?
[06:10] <Tigerboy> ledah: yes as long as they are sep ports (places for data to go)
[06:10] <hannah_irina> hi, this is kernel in ubuntu : linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic-pae ?
[06:10] <Tigerboy> Ledah: it it is just to ways to hook the same sound stream it won't work
[06:11] <ledah> i want to make skype on the front jack (the headphones) and the rest on the back jack (the speakers)
[06:12] <Tigerboy> Ledah: most likely they are two things so should be possible if only you set it up right and skype allows it
[06:12] <samholmes> How can I find out why a job failed in upstart?
[06:14] <ledah> but how i do that?
[06:14] <Tigerboy> Ledah: test by using pulse volume control and turning everything off in the configuration tab but what you want to try and see if the same sound is coming from the front and back
[06:14] <witakr> skai-falkorr, Found "Enable accelerated CSS animations" and enabled it. That changed the CSS Animation to green and hardware accellerated but g+ is still painfully slow.
[06:14] <skai-falkorr> witakr: threaded compositing maybe?
[06:14] <Tigerboy> samholmes: you can check the logs for a start
[06:14] <ledah> yeah it recognize it as a single device
[06:15] <witakr> hmm
[06:15] <Tigerboy> Ledah: good then
[06:15] <Tigerboy> oh bad sorry
[06:15] <Tigerboy> Ledah: you mean front is same as back
[06:15] <samholmes> Tigerboy: I didn't know upstart had a log for each process. Where are they?
[06:16] <Tigerboy> ledah: elsewise try for a lovely USB phone
[06:17] <Alpha-Omega> is there any software for zooming if I was to want to browse from bed on my 22 inch monitor?
[06:17] <Nicekiwi> how do I remove entire destop enviroments very quickly? eg totally remove KDE and Gnome leaving only XFCE?
[06:17] <bazhang> !purexfce | Nicekiwi
[06:17] <DaemonicApathy> Alpha-Omega: Compiz and Ubuntu each have a few zoom options built in.
[06:17] <Tigerboy> Samholmes: try to add in a kernel option- --verbose
[06:18] <Alpha-Omega> DaemonicApathy: i'm on kde
[06:18] <skai-falkorr> Alpha-Omega: kwin have few zoom options too
[06:18] <Tigerboy> Xubuntu is not a bad system at all very stable overall
[06:19] <Alpha-Omega> skai-falkorr: but there's nothing really made specifically for browsing in bed or something right?
[06:19] <Tigerboy> Xubuntu also cohabitates well with compiz
[06:19] <cfhowlett> Tigerboy: Xubuntu is the platform for UbuntuStdudio
[06:19] <skai-falkorr> Alpha-Omega: you can use glasses
[06:20] <Tigerboy> Cfhowlett: yes they bailed out of gnome after the whole gnome 3 thing
[06:20] <cfhowlett> Tigerboy: yep.
[06:20] <Alpha-Omega> skai-falkorr: sudo apt-get install glasses? :P
[06:20] <puppy_parade> after a while, I cannot maximize totem.
[06:20] <puppy_parade> I have to reboot
[06:20] <prova21> Heyz
[06:20] <puppy_parade> the screen either goes black or all checkered
[06:20] <prova21> please help me
[06:20] <Tigerboy> cfhowlett: you want stability with ubuntustudio---
[06:21] <prova21> I was typing a text on gedit
[06:21] <prova21> and it crashed before I had the opportunity to save
[06:21] <Nicekiwi> bazhang: that dosnt get rid of GNome though :(
[06:21] <bazhang> !enter | prova21
[06:22] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, you read the links and did the commands there?
[06:22] <prova21> Heyz! please help me..!
[06:22] <prova21> I was typing a text on gedit, and it crashed before I had the opportunity to save!
[06:22] <witakr> skai-falkorr, Well that also had no apparent effect
[06:22] <DaemonicApathy> What is the question, prova21?
[06:22] <skai-falkorr> witakr: and what gpu do you have?
[06:22] <Nicekiwi> bazhang: i looked at the links, none of them remove Gnome
[06:22] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, or you just removed the metapackage only
[06:22] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: Lol , I thought it wasn't difficult to get .. I need to recover that text
[06:23] <Tigerboy> I really sort of like Cinnamon of late though. Def worth checking out.
[06:23] <Nicekiwi> bazhang: commands*
[06:23] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, yes, it does
[06:23] <Nicekiwi> bazhang: unity is not GNome?
[06:23] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, it's a shell for gnome3, so yes' it's gnome
[06:24] <Nicekiwi> :/ ok..
[06:24] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: do you have autosaving enabled in gedit?
[06:24] <witakr> skai-falkorr, GeForce 8400GS/PCIe/SSE2
[06:25] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: It still has all its default settings
[06:25] <Tigerboy> unity is gtk3 a ubuntu branch of gnome 3 but not really
[06:25] <prova21> (ubuntu precise)
[06:25] <Tigerboy> Unity keeps improving though
[06:25] <bazhang> Tigerboy, please stop the editorializing
[06:26] <Tigerboy> What I'm answering a question
[06:26] <bazhang> Tigerboy, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:26] <Tigerboy> leave me alone
[06:26] <ledah> Tigerboy, the front and the back are from the same card, however in windows i could separate both jacks, and different things in one and the other eg; youtube on speakers and winamp on headphones
[06:26] <bazhang> Tigerboy, you are adding noise. please stop it
[06:26] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: It doesn't seem to ..
[06:26] <Tigerboy> It's not noise it's a response
[06:27] <Tigerboy> stop being so hostile
[06:27] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: You can check your home folder for a file with ~ in the title, if it was a new, unsaved document. Or check the directory with the document you were editing for the same, if you were. Otherwise, I don't see an option.
[06:27] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: Either way, I would suggest enabling that feature, for the future.
[06:29] <donald> wats the at sign?
[06:29] <DaemonicApathy> @
[06:29] <Guest9770> thanks, missing my "two" key
[06:30] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: uuuufff there's nothing :'(
[06:30] <DaemonicApathy> Guest9770, run 'charmap' in a terminal any time.
[06:30] <prova21> why didn't it that option enabled by default? :'(
[06:30] <prova21>  **hadn't
[06:30] <rob_p> prova21: Just curious what you did to cause it to crash in the first place?
[06:31] <DaemonicApathy> Probably to avoid taking up disk space without being expressly allowed to, prova21.
[06:31] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: Avoid taking up a couple of KiloBytes of space??????????? who cares
[06:31] <prova21> ufff
[06:31] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: Just a guess. I'm no developer. :-)
[06:32] <prova21> rob_p: Oh you're curious? I'm gonna tell you. That's a bug I think
[06:32] <rob_p> prova21: yup
[06:32] <donald_> so whos naked?
[06:32] <DaemonicApathy> This reminds me - would it be possible to type in two locations at once?
[06:33] <witakr> lol donald_
[06:33] <rob_p> prova21: ...that is, yup, I'm curious...
[06:33] <bazhang> !coc > donald_
[06:33] <bazhang> donald_, wrong channel, network
[06:33] <cfhowlett> donald_: nope.
[06:33] <donald_> wat?
[06:34] <bazhang> donald_, this is ubuntu support only, NOT chat
[06:34] <donald_> wat is this shit?
[06:34] <cfhowlett> !ops donald
[06:34] <prova21> That file was still unsaved. I got to ""File>Save"" and the usual window opened. When I found out that there already was a file with the name I wanted to save it, I went (with nautilus) to that directory and renamed it (when gedit's save window was still opened).    Exactly after the filename-change, gedit tried to update or do some of its stuff I don't know and it CRASHED
[06:34] <prova21> :'(
[06:34] <donald_> oh, i just saw chat and figured it was like, yea
[06:34] <nigweth> x_x
[06:34] <donald_> lol
[06:34] <bazhang> donald_, watch the language; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <donald_> it looks like chat?
[06:35] <prova21> ubuntu sucks, It had to have autosave enabled by default
[06:35] <donald_> how do i get there?
[06:35] <witakr> anyone know how to disable system messages in xchat? I cant find it
[06:35] <bazhang> witakr, join/quit?
[06:35] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: s/ubuntu/gedit
[06:35] <witakr> bazhang, yeah
[06:35] <bazhang> witakr, right click channel name
[06:35] <aLeSD_> hi there
[06:35] <prova21> DaemonicApathy: Well, Ubuntu should care of every part of its default system. Even with options
[06:35] <nigweth> donald_, try /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <prova21> For what is useless, canonical always put his hands xD
[06:36] <rob_p> prova21: First, I'd try and reproduce the problem exactly as you did the first time.  If you can get it to consistently crash (or even once in a while), then you should file a bug!
[06:36] <quazimodo> codyps: sorry had to eat some chicken XD
[06:36] <witakr> bazhang, lol thanks
[06:36] <pentagon> usr13: How do I download the sources for a certain package ?
[06:36] <witakr> bazhang, the one thing I didnt try
[06:36] <quazimodo> codyps: nah it a regular network member, has 2 nic's tho, 1 wan and 1 lan
[06:36] <prova21> rob_p: I'm so hungry that I don't wanna help that dev team
[06:36] <prova21> lol
[06:36] <prova21> *angry
[06:36] <prova21> LOL
[06:36] <quazimodo> ill see wbhat  the ugys in #unixhelp say on efnet
[06:37] <rob_p> prova21: Then cool down and eat something! :)
[06:37] <bazhang> prova21, file a bug. this is not the complaints/rant channel
[06:38] <frosty> its a good habit to save your document before you start writing. Its awfully easy hitting ctrl+s quite often later on to avoid these situations
[06:41] <prova21> a good system has to take all the user's habits on itself, so that the user find his working experience the most comfortable possible
[06:41] <prova21> frosty, ubuntu should have saved it for me ^
[06:41] <prova21> user musn't care of these things! you understand me? :)
[06:41] <DaemonicApathy> prova21: That kind of good system is best built by the user him/herself.
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> libreoffice has a backup function but it needs to be turned on and you can set the time line. http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Saving_Documents_Automatically
[06:42] <nigweth> I'm still having problems with running radeon9200 with working hardware acceleration on Mint Maya... Tried adding xorg-edgers repo in synaptic which now keeps bugging about the repo's public key not accessible... x_x any advices?
[06:42] <DaemonicApathy> Try Mint support?
[06:42] <bazhang> nigweth, ask mintsupport
[06:42] <nigweth> ok
[06:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | nigweth
[06:42] <Ben64> nigweth: radeon 9200 is very old
[06:43] <indieross> so im compiling the new ffmpeg and im wondering if theres a benefit to using libx264 and libxvid for encoding
[06:43] <nigweth> Ben64, yup.. I even wanted to get jaunty on that pc so I could install any old proprietary drivers.. would that be a solution?
[06:44] <IdleOne> the solution is to seek support in the proper channel please
[06:44] <Ben64> nigweth: not very secure, you should upgrade your system
[06:45] <icenynexi> Hey guys, not sure if this is the right channel for this but I am trying to get certain ports open on a computer on my network (and I should be able to access those ports through a web browser) and even though I open the ports with iptables I can't access it through a web browser. http://pastebin.com/wwZpYEk1 shows the ports and they seem open. The port I am concerned about first is 8088. I
[06:45] <icenynexi> can access 8080 on my server and 10765 on my server but not 8088 and 5984. Why might this be?
[06:45] <prova21> nigweth: yeah, that's the only solution (if you wanna keep ubuntu distros). Cause the new xorg isn't compatible with all the old fglrx drivers anymore
[06:45] <icenynexi> when I say I cannot access those ports I mean from a browser on another computer within the same network
[06:46] <icenynexi> so im doing 192.168.1.7:8088
[06:47] <nigweth> thanks prova21, I'll give it a try..
[06:47] <prova21> nigweth: You need an old linux kernel and xorg. And, if I was yourself, I would have compiled the kernel with all the drivers (fglrx too) to keep a monolithic and very-fast system
[06:47] <DaemonicApathy> icenynexi: I usually start somewhere like this: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[06:48] <witakr> goog night folks... thanks bazhang && wilee-nilee  && skai-falkorr for your help tonight
[06:48] <cfhowlett> witakr: goognight
[06:48] <skai-falkorr> witakr: its 2 pm. its midday
[06:49] <julius_> hi
[06:50] <julius_> are there other packages besides lvm2 and the kernel modul dm-mod that are needed on a 12.04.1 live cd to see lvm volumes?
[06:50] <witakr|NiteNite> skai-falkorr, It's nearly 2am where I am
[06:50] <nigweth> prova21, I don't have any experience with kernel compilations, so it sounds too difficult for me.. I'll keep searching tho
[06:50] <witakr|NiteNite> an hour past my bedtime lol
[06:51] <prova21> nigweth: everyone had his first try :)
[06:51] <nigweth> prova21 lol thanks.. every encouragement helps
[06:52] <chris92> any android users here? I'm looking for a way to access my files on my phone via USB using the MTP protocol
[06:53] <icenynexi> DaemonicApathy: I am looking to be able to access within the lan,
[06:54] <ankur> h
[06:54] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough, icenynexi.
[06:56] <Newb101> Hi, in firefox 15, how do I open tabs next to each other as opposed to going to the end of the tab section?
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> Newb101,  ctrl-t
[07:00] <Newb101> wilee-nilee, tks
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[07:02] <Newb101> wilee-nilee, whcurrent tabby right clicking?at happens if I want to open a link next to the
[07:03] <ankur> how to register my nick?
[07:03] <ankur> anyone knows?
[07:03] <Newb101> wilee-nilee, what happens if I want to open a link next to the the current tab using the mouse?
[07:03] <bazhang> ankur, join #freenode for help with that
[07:04] <ankur> join #freenode
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Newb101, I just opened FF and tried that key combo, to see if it worked the first time, you can move the tabs around by dragging I believe.
[07:04] <Blue1> wilee-nilee: yes -- works great.
[07:06] <Newb101> wilee-nilee, true in older versions you had the choice of opening up new links next to the current link, without having to drag?
[07:06] <julius_> ah vgscan && vgchange -a y vgpool            i love linux
[07:16] <nomike> hi
[07:16] <cfhowlett> nomike: greetings
[07:18] <nomike> I have a tar file containing a directory "foo" with files "blah" and "blubb". I now want to extract all contents of "foo" directly to the current directory without "foo" being created.
[07:18] <nomike> Anyone knows how this could be done?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> nomike, So you just want to extract the tar to a directory right?
[07:22] <amit> hi
[07:24] <prova21> nomike: You can 1) specify filenames
[07:24] <ankur> guys anyone of you know how to make my laptop to a router
[07:25] <prova21> or 2) use the option --strip-components
[07:25] <prova21> nomike: ^
[07:25] <nomike> give me a sec, i'm preparing a pastebin
[07:26] <ankur> i have a wired connection, is there a way to create a wireless network so that i can connect my mobile?
[07:26] <bazhang> !ics | ankur
[07:27] <nomike> http://nopaste.info/c8ddeba074.html
[07:27] <hannah_irina> hi, i have a problem with hylafax, give me this: Probing for best speed to talk to modem: 38400 19200 9600 4800 2400 1200 Unable to deduce DTE-DCE speed; check that you are using the correct device and/or that your modem is setup properly.  If all else fails, try the -s option to lock the speed.,
[07:28] <prova21> nomike: ooh so you don't want only files
[07:28] <kgs> Morning everyone
[07:28] <prova21> nomike: as you wrote it, it seems you want a pretty normal extractions
[07:28] <ankur> bazhang, ics?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> kgs: it's 3:30 p.m. in Beijing.  Greetings.
[07:29] <prova21> without 's'
[07:29] <nomike> prova21,
[07:29] <nomike> oops
[07:29] <kgs> :)
[07:29] <hannah_irina> prova21, but not use s....
[07:29] <prova21> hannah_irina: you're late, I already appointed it ^^
[07:29] <nomike> prova21, yes, but I want to strip the directory on extracting
[07:29] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing  <---- ankur
[07:29] <ankur> ubottu, the instructions on that link are insufficient
[07:29] <prova21> I've **
[07:29] <rhizmoe> any old farts here? trying to remember what increments hard drives went in as they approached 1GB. 750MB doesn't sound right, and 800 kind of does, but not really.
[07:29] <ankur> lol
[07:29] <kgs> I'm looking for something like forcebindip for Ubuntu 12.04
[07:30] <ramazanali> facebook
[07:30] <ankur> bazhang, not sufficient
[07:30] <bazhang> ramazanali, what about it
[07:30] <ramazanali> how can i install gns3
[07:30] <ankur> bazhang, Open Settings->Network->Wireless and create a new Ad Hoc network. To use a common denominator for all devices choose WEP for security and create a 5 letters password from 0..9A..F. Note that this a least secure encryption standard. this is all that's there
[07:30] <bazhang> !details | ankur
[07:30] <bazhang> ramazanali, what is gns 3
[07:31] <ramazanali> gns3
[07:31] <bazhang> ramazanali, what is it
[07:31] <kgs> Basically, my WiFi connection doesn't let me connect to IRC networks & I want to use USB tethering with my mobile only for X-Chat & use the WiFi for everything else.
[07:32] <aguadito> anyone know how i can get the steam/cs:go linux beta?
[07:32] <prova21> nomike: well??
[07:32] <kgs> Any possible way to do this?
[07:32] <ankur> bazhang, i want to make my laptop a wifi router (as i have a wired connection) so that i can connect other devices to the internet.
[07:32] <bazhang> ankur, and it's running ubuntu? the laptop?
[07:32] <ankur> yeah 12.04
[07:32] <ankur> bazhang, yeah 12.04
[07:33] <arijit> kgs: what error it throuws up when you try to connect to iRC?
[07:33] <hannah_irina> what is wrong on my modem ? http://pastebin.ca/2229500
[07:34] <kgs> arijit: I'm pretty sure it can't be solved, my server has websense.
[07:34] <arijit> kgs: ahhhaaa
[07:34] <kgs> arijit: Basically connection times out. No other errors.
[07:34] <kgs> arijit: I can however use the webchat gateway without any problems.
[07:35] <gogeta> ankur: you should be able to set that in the network network manager
[07:35] <kgs> All other clients give me problems
[07:35] <arijit> kgs: if your administrator dont allow outgoing ITC traffic then you cannot
[07:35] <arijit> IRC*
[07:36] <kgs> Yes, which is why I want to bind my IRC client to my USB tethering interface & use WiFi for everything else.
[07:37] <ankur> you mean the network connections?
[07:37] <ankur> gogeta, you mean the network connections? coz i just started using 12.04
[07:37] <gogeta> what abought webchat freenode I use that when on my cell teather
[07:37] <ankur> gogeta, is there any connectifyMe substitute for ubuntu or something like that?
[07:39] <gogeta> ankur: yes elect edit and in IP setting there should be a dropdown box set it to shared with other PC's or something like that
[07:39] <kgs> gogeta: Yes, but it's impractical. I use a bnc.
[07:39] <arijit> kgs: there is also #freenode guys who can help you better :)
[07:40] <kgs> Oh well, okay. Thanks
[07:41] <prova21> rob_p: As I thought, it is a bug!
[07:41] <prova21> I feel generous today and I'm gonna report the bug. :P
[07:41] <prova21> can you point me where?
[07:41] <prova21> and how can I send all the data they need?
[07:41] <bazhang> !bugs > prova21
[07:42] <ankur> gogeta,   what abt BSSID Device mac id coned mac id etc
[07:43] <skai-falkorr> !bugs > skai-falkorr
[07:43] <prova21> bazhang: what if I don't have unity anymore and switched to gnome-shell?
[07:43] <prova21> I have to report it there anyway?
[07:43] <gogeta> you set your.own said for the hotspots rest can be left alone
[07:43] <ankur> gogeta, and i can't hit save. :|
[07:43] <hannah_irina> !bugs > hylafax
[07:43] <gogeta> ssid
[07:44] <gogeta> weather or not you Ashanti it secured etc
[07:45] <kyubotsu> you can also message the bot directly to inquire information. thought i'd mention that ...
[07:45] <ankur> gogeta, can't hit save, it's faded
[07:46] <skai-falkorr> ankur: maybe you dont have permissions to save
[07:46] <ankur> skai-falkorr, and that would be because?
[07:47] <skai-falkorr> ankur: or make wrong settings (forgot dot or something) and thats why you dont allow to save
[07:48] <kyubotsu> chunkyhead: avoid doing that. specially when someone is addressing you
[07:48] <kyubotsu> the nick changing , that is
[07:49] <nickjr> hi how to start xserver from terminal mode?
[07:49] <llutz_> nickjr: startx
[07:50] <nickjr> thanks
[07:50] <Sailor_Moon> what is the minimal system requirements for old version ubuntu?
[07:51] <Sailor_Moon> *very old
[07:51] <lovethecode> X Ubuntu?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Sailor_Moon: xuubntu or lubuntu are recommended
[07:52] <Sailor_Moon> thanks; will it work good if 200 mb ram?
[07:52] <unsobill> heyylo - is it possible to "rebuild" networking interfaces list ?
[07:52] <unsobill> i got total of 12 interfaces with numbers all fuked up
[07:52] <lovethecode> Is L Ubuntu released? I run lxde without a prob.
[07:52] <unsobill> is there a way to reset it all to default
[07:53] <llutz_> unsobill: remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  and restart
[07:53] <unsobill> one of my interface called rename2
[07:53] <gogeta> Sailor_Moon: I suggest puppy Linux for hardware that old
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu|lovethecode:
[07:54] <Sailor_Moon> thanks
[07:54] <Sailor_Moon> bye!
[07:54] <lovethecode> You are my favorite bot!
[07:54] <chunkyhead> skai-falkorr, actually it was my bad i was entering a password out of limits for wep :P
[07:54] <unsobill> thnkx dude rebootuing
[07:54] <unsobill> weeeeeeeeee
[07:54] <gogeta> Sailor_Moon: it will take some hoops to get Ubuntu installed on that not inpossable just annoying
[07:54] <thomaspr> What do we take now that Adobe won't support linux anymore ?
[07:55] <lovethecode> Thanks, cfh.
[07:55] <auronandace> thomaspr: a sigh of relief
[07:55] <Sailor_Moon> thomaspr: you mean adobe flash player?
[07:56] <blackbear008> or Adbbe reader?
[07:56] <Sailor_Moon> linux have analogs of all adobe programs;
[07:56] <blackbear008> www.adobe.com, it seems to support linux .
[07:56] <gogeta> thomaspr: flash is a dying breed anyways
[07:56] <joshmc> thomaspr: Adobe wont support linux anymore? Not that I doubt you but where did you come across this information?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> joshmc: rule 34: source!
[07:57] <Sailor_Moon> and, there is html5 and google-chrome with it own flash library
[07:57] <hannah_irina> what is wrong on my modem ? http://pastebin.ca/2229500
[07:57] <thomaspr> What flashplayer do we take now that Adobe won't support linux anymore ?
[07:57] <gogeta> joshmc: its true 11 was the last they dropped everything but windows
[07:57] <joshmc> cfhowlett: Hearing that adobe is giving up on flash on our platform could be qualified as a fetish, sure ;)
[07:57] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:57] <STMelon_> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?promoid=JZEFT
[07:57] <STMelon_> NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.
[07:57] <kyubotsu> this sounds like a topic better suited for -offtopic, guys..
[07:58] <auronandace> thomaspr: gnash and lightspark are alternatives
[07:58] <Sailor_Moon> 11.2 flsh works excellent now, and, maybe, next several years; then will be html5
[07:58] <hannah_irina> hi, i need to configure my modem on ubuntu... how i do that?
[07:59] <blackbear008> what kinds of modem?
[07:59] <Sailor_Moon> gnash and lightspark? it interesting
[07:59] <gogeta> no matter 12.04 has it we got years before its a issue and by then it will all be HTML 5 next topic
[07:59] <gordonjcp> hannah_irina: what sort of modem?
[08:00] <hannah_irina> Analog Devices SM56 PCI modem * motorola
[08:00] <folorn> how do you rm /rmdir a whole dir
[08:00] <hannah_irina> PCI
[08:00] <gogeta> lol old school
[08:00] <folorn> that way ya dont have to do it 1 file at a time
[08:00] <llutz_> folorn: rm -r /dir
[08:00] <gogeta> !dialup
[08:00] <folorn> thanks llutz
[08:00] <hannah_irina> i need modem for faxserver
[08:01] <gordonjcp> hannah_irina: aha
[08:01] <gogeta> bascily you need to grab the driver etc
[08:01] <gordonjcp> hannah_irina: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax
[08:01] <chunkyhead> guys i'm unable to see the wifi hotspot on my phone which i created using my laptop
[08:02] <gordonjcp> I had a fax machine, years ago
[08:02] <hannah_irina> TNX
[08:03] <Sailor_Moon> cunkyhead: what os on phone? android?
[08:03] <hannah_irina> i need to add a bot this line: quiet pci=routeirq
[08:03] <hannah_irina> how i modify the grub?
[08:03] <chunkyhead> Sailor_Moon, yeah
[08:03] <hannah_irina> for resolve this error Probing for best speed to talk to modem: 38400 19200 9600 4800 2400 1200 Unable to deduce DTE-DCE speed; check that you are using the correct device and/or that your modem is setup properly.  If all else fails, try the -s option to lock the speed.,
[08:03] <blackbear008> hannah_irina,/boot/grub/grub2.cfg
[08:05] <llutz_> hannah_irina: if it's an internal PCI-modem, are you sure it's /dev/ttyS0? check " dmesg " about information on that
[08:05] <chuxxsss> how to maximise google chrome when watching you tube?
[08:05] <gordonjcp> chuxxsss: F11
[08:05] <hannah_irina> blackbear008, file is emty
[08:05] <chuxxsss> to hide tool bars.
[08:05] <hannah_irina> llutz, i see the modem but is the problem
[08:05] <hannah_irina> i need to add in menu.lst
[08:05] <hannah_irina> pci=routeirq
[08:06] <chuxxsss> ok will try gordonjcp
[08:06] <joshmc> hannah_irina blackbear008: or modify /etc/default/grub (if it still exists; my ubuntu distribution could use an update...) to add the lines to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[08:06] <llutz_> hannah_irina: to modify grub edit /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub" then
[08:06] <cfhowlett> hannah_irina: menu.lst is OLD grub, not grub 2
[08:07] <folorn> any idea what this error is ?  "fopen: /etc/john/john.ini: No such file or directory"
[08:07] <gogeta> don't you add custom lines to d.40 now
[08:07] <hannah_irina> llutz_, i yes
[08:07] <chuxxsss> does not work at all gordonjcp
[08:08] <hannah_irina> llutz_, http://pastebin.ca/2229502
[08:08] <hannah_irina> add here GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" ?
[08:08] <hannah_irina> at line 12
[08:08] <Sailor_Moon> folorn: file system error, or not exist file, or access rights; i think access rights
[08:08] <chuxxsss> why does thetool bar stay when watching things?
[08:09] <Sailor_Moon> folorn: linux, default, locked to see /etc/ non-root; ubuntu, defaults, work not under root
[08:09] <kyubotsu> chuxxsss: tried maximising using F11?
[08:09] <llutz_> hannah_irina: change line 11 into ....="quiet splash pci=routeirq"  and run "sudo update-grub" after saving the changes
[08:09] <hannah_irina> llutz, need reboot?
[08:09] <llutz_> hannah_irina: sure
[08:10] <llutz_> hannah_irina: grub only runs at boot-time, its your bootmanager
[08:10] <hannah_irina> tnx
[08:10] <hannah_irina> reboot
[08:10] <chuxxsss> fails to maximise with F11
[08:11] <hannah_irina> llutz_ you know faxmodem?
[08:11] <llutz_> hannah_irina: not really, it's ages ago i dealt with it last
[08:11] <kyubotsu> you want the browser or the video to maximize..? i fail to understand
[08:11] <hannah_irina> i have this problem http://pastebin.ca/2229500 , not find the speed
[08:11] <kyubotsu> chuxxsss:
[08:12] <Sailor_Moon> hannah_irina: if you use qemu, you will can see how grub starting, without reboot
[08:12] <hannah_irina> Sailor_Moon, yes
[08:13] <hannah_irina> but the command not resolve my problem
[08:13] <chuxxsss> yes Kyngdom
[08:14] <chuxxsss> yes kyubotsu
[08:15] <kyubotsu> chuxxsss: with the app in focus, F11 maximizes the app window. now, for the actual youtube video there is a fullscreen option button on the lower right corner
[08:15] <kyubotsu> on the video window itself
[08:16] <chuxxsss> Yes I know the button. but that is not the problem per say
[08:16] <kyubotsu> F11 will not maximize the video, just the application interface
[08:17] <chuxxsss> Need to remove app tool bars top and bottom,
[08:17] <chuxxsss> try in chrome does not work by hiding them.
[08:18] <chuxxsss> Tried to reinstall as well.
[08:20] <chuxxsss> setting, appaerance and Hide system title bar and use compact borders
[08:20] <chuxxsss> fails kyubotsu
[08:21] <chunkyhead> how do i see the list of users on the channel?
[08:22] <chunkyhead> ok got it nvm
[08:23] <thomaspr> 	
[08:23] <thomaspr> Sailor_Moon 09:59:12
[08:23] <thomaspr> gnash and lightspark? it's not so interesting for me as it doesn't support midori, i use :-(
[08:23] <FloodBot1> thomaspr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <hannah_irina> hello, i have this problem http://pastebin.ca/2229500 , not find the speed.. how i resolve this problem..
[08:27] <thomaspr> Anyone knows more alternatives than gnash and/or lightspark ?
[08:30] <folorn> anyone know how to get back a file if you deleted it?
[08:30] <anant> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a USB drive?
[08:30] <rigo> is that normal that the make is damn slow? making a driver for s471 about 10-30mins dunno.
[08:31] <folorn> if anyone has any ideas it would be a great help lol
[08:31] <folorn> i deleted john.ini from the etc folder
[08:32] <kyubotsu> !usb | anant
[08:32] <rigo> ?
[08:33] <rigo> 6mb tar.gz file. make 20 minutes. pretty slow right? (at3iont-i 4gb ram)
[08:34] <anant> folorn: It is pretty difficult https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/files-recover.html
[08:35] <rigo> top: cc1 20 - 100%,  make 2-3%
[08:35] <D[4]ni> i'm pretty sure i once heard about a piece of software that could act as a proxy, and when i send a request over it, i could see it and change it BEFORE it actually is sent to the server. does anyone know how that one is called?
[08:36] <D[4]ni> and i don't mean any brwoser addon
[08:36] <rigo> d4ni you mean that you can open a port behind a proxy for yourself without admin rights?
[08:36] <D[4]ni> what? probably not.
[08:37] <rigo> ok :) than forgetit. i tought.
[09:02] <pentagon> Bry8Star: Any ideas?
[09:02] <Bry8Star> Hi pentagon, about what?
[09:02] <damms005> pls guys I love ubuntu and I want to know so much about it, especially register terms like GTK, QT, UNITY, GNOME, etc. Pls how can I read about these things?
[09:03] <skai-falkorr> damms005: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <skai-falkorr> damms005: linux format magazine
[09:03] <skai-falkorr> damms005: wikipedia
[09:04] <kyubotsu> !man | damms005
[09:04] <pentagon> Bry8Star: I am trying to get my hostname locally to update from rdns, I know freenode uses it so I was wondiring if I can just copy their style.
[09:04] <kyubotsu> try that too.. lots of stuff to read for sure
[09:05] <pentagon> How do I pull sources?
[09:05] <pentagon> I forgot that is more of a server question.
[09:07] <pentagon> I want to compile everything from source after I get it all together.
[09:08] <Bry8Star> Pentagon, sorry, I will not be useful for you on that area, as I dont know a lot on that.
[09:09] <e66> I have attched a new LAN card to my pc. Now Ubuntu only recognizes the built in Intel LAN card. But not the Newly added Prolink LAN card
[09:09] <e66> how to can I activate both card so I can see them using ifconfig?
[09:09] <Bry8Star> Wait, and see if another user who understands your problem and have free time to help you now.
[09:09] <llutz_> pentagon: apt-get source <packagename> but you'd better not use a binary-distro like ubuntu if you want to compile all your stuff (whyever)
[09:11] <nydel> ehlo all
[09:12] <Bry8Star> E66, I'm not sure, but you will probably have to find first, what that Network Adpate is equivalent to in Ubuntu/Linux, then add that known driver via network-interface.
[09:13] <Bry8Star> * Network Interface Card/Adapter
[09:13] <bizhanMona> HI I have an unusual question regarding ubuntu packaging. I have compile several open source packages and have installed them in a staging directory, i.e. STAGEDIR. So for example the binary file foo is installed in .../STAGEDIR/usr/local/bin/foo  I would like to make an ubuntu package from STAGEDIR and install them on the target system. For example the file  foo will be installed in /usr/local/bin/foo. I have read ubuntu packaging docume
[09:13] <bizhanMona> nts but I can not figure out how to do what I just explained? Thx
[09:13] <kyubotsu> e66: it should have 'just worked'. are you sure its sitting on the slot properly and that it is the correct slot for it
[09:13] <pentagon> llutz_: why not
[09:14] <pentagon> I am so sick of people telling me something is not a good idea without any reason.
[09:14] <e66> Bry8Star: when I execute 'dmesg | grep eth' I dont see more than 1 eth entry. I see only eth1
[09:14] <pentagon> Don't reinvent the wheel llutz_
[09:15] <e66> kyubotsu:  Yes. Its in correct slot. I have also attached a LAN cable with it. The other end of the cable is attached to another computer
[09:15] <llutz_> pentagon: but you do, use gentoo, lfs, slackware if you like your compiler that much. where do you see any benefits in compiling stuff on a binary-distro?
[09:15] <pentagon> e66: You either.
[09:15] <e66> I even see a green lite on the  LAN card after attching the cable
[09:16] <e66> s/attching/attaching
[09:16] <pentagon> llutz_: Don't worry I will not re-invent the wheel.
[09:16] <pentagon> llutz_: is there a drawback or do you just want to talk about other distros ?
[09:16] <pentagon> Or tell me im doing it all wrong with no reason.
[09:16] <llutz_> pentagon: still:where do you see any benefits in compiling stuff on a binary-distro?
[09:17] <pentagon> llutz_: whats the benifit of compiling at all llutz_ ??
[09:17] <pentagon> Read dwheeler mitigating trusting trust llutz_ .
[09:17] <e66> pentagon: ?
[09:17] <pentagon> There I gave you a citation.
[09:17] <bazhang> !ot | pentagon
[09:17] <pentagon> Now don't reinvent the wheel.
[09:18] <bazhang> pentagon, thats enough
[09:18] <llutz__> pentagon: sry got disconnected: still:where do you see any benefits in compiling stuff on a binary-distro?
[09:18] <bazhang> llutz__, lets move back to support please
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> llutz__  the discussion has come to an end
[09:18] <llutz__> bazhang: sry got disconnected, missed that
[09:19] <kyubotsu> e66: secondly, just running a cat5 between pc's won't do, you need a router hub
[09:20] <e66> kyubotsu: I know how to do it.
[09:20] <kyubotsu> e66: fair enough then
[09:21] <e66> kyubotsu: the question is not about how to connect to pcs. I asked why ubuntu is not recognising the card. I dont see any new eth device is created
[09:22] <kyubotsu> e66: does it work on fine on the other pc?
[09:22] <kyubotsu> this card
[09:22] <e66> Ohter pc is not matter here kyubotsu
[09:22] <Myrtti> kyubotsu: actually in theory it might work without a crossover cable, if either ethernet cards is smart enough
[09:22] <e66> I am not testing it in other pc
[09:22] <t4b_> I want to sync two huge folders with rsync which are each in another truecrypt container. I used ionice -c3 and renice +20 on all rsync and truecrypt processes. But Minecraft still lags while rsync runs. Can I do something else to improve this?
[09:22] <kyubotsu> Myrtti: indeed.. just saying
[09:23] <e66> I see the green led is lit. That means its properly connected to motherboard.
[09:23] <akshayv> When is Quantal coming?
[09:23] <kyubotsu> e66: then i'd look at the driver...
[09:24] <e66> kyubotsu: if the driver isnot found there would be some messages or logs. I dont see any messages or logs in `dmesg`
[09:25] <Myrtti> akshayv: last thursday of October, if I'm not mistaken
[09:25] <kyubotsu> e66: i don't think there'll be a command to bring it online in this case.. maybe someone else has a pertinent solution
[09:25] <e66> I just found that there are two mac addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:25] <akshayv> Myrtti: thanks
[09:26] <e66> One is of my Intel card. Other is unknown. May be this one is the MAC of the new one
[09:26] <mongy> installing to a usb stick,(through a vm)  using encryption for / and I'm getting this while install.  not seen this before either real or vm install.  any clue?  http://i.imgur.com/P5wvR.png
[09:26] <Myrtti> akshayv: x.10 is last Thursday of October, x.04 is last Thursday of April
[09:27] <akshayv> ok
[09:27] <e66> seet this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1249130/
[09:28] <e66> eth1 is my Intel card
[09:33] <skai-falkorr> Myrtti: they must release 13.04 at 13 of april not 25
[09:34] <ANub> hello guys
[09:35] <madrebel> hello all
[09:35] <madrebel> having problem installing geforce 9500 driver in ubuntu
[09:35] <e66> in 13.04, 13 is year.
[09:35] <madrebel> what to do
[09:35] <ANub> ive a problem.......if i mount ntfs file system in ubuntu i cant change the file permissions even if i'm the mount user...
[09:36] <llutz_> ANub: because ntfs is not a unix-filesystem and cannot sue unix-permissions
[09:36] <llutz_> !ntfs  | ANub
[09:36] <madrebel> LOL sue
[09:36] <skai-falkorr> e66: so? 10.10 was released at 10/10/10
[09:36] <madrebel> having problem installing geforce 9500 driver in ubuntu
[09:36] <madrebel> what to do
[09:36] <ANub> ive tried ntfs-3g as well
[09:36] <bazhang> !repeat | madrebel
[09:36] <madrebel> forum surfing is age-inducing
[09:37] <e66> skai-falkorr:  so they are NOT required to release it in 13th April
[09:37] <madrebel> makes me feel old while i desperately try to find answers
[09:37] <skai-falkorr> e66: not required, but they must do it for good number magic^_^
[09:37] <llutz_> ANub: s/sue/use/
[09:37] <yeats> !nvidia | madrebel
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[09:39] <ANub> what do u mean..
[09:41] <hannah_irina> hi, why mozilla crash fast in ubuntu?
[09:41] <llutz_> ANub: i just tried to correct my typ into "...cannot use unix-permissions". you cannot change permissions file/dir-wise on ntfs, you use mount-options for the whole fs when mounting the fs
[09:44] <hanazuki_> i have gnome running on ubuntu 12.04 , but it feels like there still are some visual effects turned on ?!
[09:44] <hanazuki_> is there a way to see it and turn it off ?
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> hannah_irina  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong, what version of ubuntu are you running
[09:45] <hanazuki_> like in 11.04 when you could turn it off
[09:45] <hannah_irina> MonkeyDust, i have 10 firefox open and websites refreshed at 25sec ( is online webcam on )
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> hanazuki_  use 'classic no effects'
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> hannah_irina  10 FF open?
[09:46] <hanazuki_> MonkeyDust,  okey i wll try that now see if i got it in my list
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> hannah_irina  10 tabs in FF?
[09:46] <hannah_irina> yes
[09:47] <hannah_irina> no separated window
[09:47] <kyubotsu> hanazuki_: he means from the login screen; another option is to adjust the settings using ccsm
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> hannah_irina  try 10 tabs in 1 window
[09:48] <hannah_irina> oki
[09:48] <hanazuki_> Kyubotsu , yes in i have some options in login , ccsm is that an easier way ?
[09:49] <kyubotsu> login option is simpler
[09:49] <kyubotsu> there should not be any effects running in 'classic' mode
[09:50] <ronny> hi
[09:50] <ronny> anyone aware of a way to build stuff on ubuntu so it will be binary compatible with other linux distros
[09:50] <ronny> currently it fails flat wrt glibc versions and libffi versions
[09:51] <hannah_irina> MonkeyDust, but where i see the error crashed of firefox?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> hannah_irina  not sure what you mean or want to achieve
[09:53] <hannah_irina> i need to see the error of firefox when crashed
[09:53] <hanazuki_> it worked, thanks mokeydust/kyubotsu
[09:59] <dawgb0ne> hi people..  I just installed ubunto on a partitioned drive.  After installation computer rebooted from windows 7 to ubunto, and all was ok.  Now after going back to windows, then back to ubunto it looks like the graphics driver is lost.  The main question is, if i find and install the driver for linux ubunto will it interfere with the windows driver ?
[10:00] <msp301> dawgb0ne: Windows & Ubuntu drivers will not interfere with each other
[10:01] <kyubotsu> dawgb0ne: look at it this way, what happens in ubuntu stays in ubuntu
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> kyubotsu  nicely put
[10:01] <msp301> kyubotsu: well said :)
[10:02] <dawgb0ne> Ok, i'll embed that into my memory :)  I'm thinking that I may need to download catalyst for my video card, as i had to with windows 7 to use monitor with HD.
[10:03] <bekks> dawgb0ne: Booting different OS will not cause to lose a driver.
[10:03] <kyubotsu> dawgb0ne: you'll be fine, just try System Settings/Additional Drivers first before delving into tty land
[10:03] <dawgb0ne> ok cheers
[10:03] <kyubotsu> ergo, reinstall the driver
[10:04] <Azzle-Dazzle> guys, Update manager is showing that there are some updates, But it wont let me select 'Install' - heres a screenshot https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69014495/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-29%2011%3A00%3A37.png
[10:04] <Azzle-Dazzle> nor will it let me select the updates either
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> Azzle-Dazzle  a PPA ?
[10:05] <Azzle-Dazzle> not sure what that means exactly
[10:05] <Azzle-Dazzle> still havent mastered this linux thing ! and its been about 2 months lol
[10:06] <dawgb0ne> i heard it takes a while
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> !find noobslab
[10:06] <VlanZ> a simple question guys: i my system freezes istantly and i can't even suu the caps lock led on the USB keyboard when i press it, could it be more than a Xorg issue?
[10:06] <bekks> dawgb0ne: ...to do what?
[10:06] <dawgb0ne> learn the art of linux :)
[10:06] <dawgb0ne> day 1 for me
[10:06] <bekks> dawgb0ne: It takes decades. :)
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Azzle-Dazzle  noobslab is something exotic, ubuntu does not know what it is
[10:07] <Azzle-Dazzle> lol okay, Shall I just ignore it then ?
[10:07] <msp301> Azzle-Dazzle: I use "add-apt-repository" to add new repositories to Ubuntu .. it sorts it all out for you
[10:07] <kyubotsu> Azzle-Dazzle: you don't recall installing it?
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Azzle-Dazzle  what do you want to do, what is this noobslab?
[10:08] <Azzle-Dazzle> No i dont lol, I do recall installing loads of crap from the ubuntu software centre and gnome extensions lol
[10:08] <Azzle-Dazzle> I dont know what it is so i dont know what i want to do with it lol
[10:09] <msp301> Azzle-Dazzle: If you want the updates try running ... sudo add-apt-repository "http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/gnome/ubuntu"
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Azzle-Dazzle  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:09] <kyubotsu> !info noobslab
[10:09] <Azzle-Dazzle> gimme one sec, Information overload !!
[10:10] <msp301> Azzle-Dazzle: given that you don't know what it is, remove it from Software Sources :)
[10:10] <Azzle-Dazzle> MonkeyDust - Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[10:10] <Azzle-Dazzle> haha good idea msp301 !
[10:11] <msp301> Azzle-Dazzle: The Launchpad site for it is https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/gnome ... it looks like it includes stuff for Gnome3 .. do you have Gnome3 installed?
[10:11] <Azzle-Dazzle> I think i know what it is, Its a gnome extension - Axe Menu to be precise, Or at leasts thats whats coming up under noobslab in synaptic
[10:11] <Azzle-Dazzle> yes :)
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> msp301  precise comes with gnome3 by default
[10:12] <kyubotsu> gnome3 with unity as interface ..
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> unity is a shell over gnome3
[10:12] <msp301> MonkeyDust: Alright thanks, maybe I should've used Gnome-Shell instead
[10:14] <kyubotsu> Azzle-Dazzle: also, when update-manager front-end gives me trouble i run apt-get in terminal
[10:15] <Azzle-Dazzle> thanks kyubotsu i will try that now, Also, does anyone here use chromium ?
[10:15] <bekks> Azzle-Dazzle: Why?
[10:16] <Azzle-Dazzle> cause lately its been freezing and crashing unexpectedly
[10:16] <Azzle-Dazzle> wanted to know if its just me its affecting
[10:16] <kyubotsu> Azzle-Dazzle: you mean while watching videos?
[10:17] <sl1ck> how do I check my disk for errors?
[10:17] <Azzle-Dazzle> it varies really, Sometimes it will be trying to load a web page, sometimes watching videos etc etc
[10:17] <cabula> salve a tutti!
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> !it
[10:17] <mac_12> cabula: salve
[10:18] <VlanZ> a simple question: My system freezes istantly and i can't even see the caps lock led on the USB keyboard when i press it, could it be more than a Xorg issue?
[10:18] <kyubotsu> Azzle-Dazzle: it's possible it's related to your video driver issue, update/reinstall and reboot and see how it goes from there
[10:18] <Azzle-Dazzle> Ok, Ill have a fiddle with it now :) thanks !
[10:24] <serban> is there any possible way of making a whole prefix in wine-1.4 use a specific proxy/tunnel/vpn for all connections?
[10:25] <serban> i've tried setting up wine to use a proxy, but only the http connections went trough that.
[10:31] <mac_nibblet> Can one recevies virtualization help in here?
[10:31] <bekks> serban: What do you expect to go through your proxy besides http?
[10:31] <bekks> mac_nibblet: ?
[10:31] <vashamilova>  /budus macro xdcc d 783
[10:32] <serban> some game traffic
[10:32] <bekks> serban: Define "some game traffic" please.
[10:33] <kyubotsu> serban: #winehq might offer better support for your question
[10:34] <e66> I am sharing internet from eth1 to eth2. I also use dnsmasq for dns caching. Now if I enable Internet sharing I have to stop the existing dnsmasq instance. network manager starts its own dnsmasq instance. But this dnsmasq has no dns caching options. So my dns query takes more time. How can I change the dnsmasq or network manager so when network manager starts the dnsmasq it also support dns caching? Sorry for the long question.
[10:34] <bekks> e66: Define "takes more time" in exact delays in ms or s please.
[10:35] <bekks> Without thousands of parallel qqueries, you wont even notice having a cache.
[10:35] <e66> when I use dns caching it takes 0ms. If not I takes 100ms
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> e66  there's also ##networking   some 420 people there
[10:35] <e66> MonkeyDust: they will ask me which distro. When i answer ubuntu they will redirect me here.
[10:36] <bekks> e66: How do you measaure that exactly?
[10:37] <e66> !dig
[10:37] <bekks> *measure even.
[10:37] <e66> dig command
[10:37] <Azzle-Dazzle> okay guys i think my issue is flash related, Its happening in konqueror browser too, It only seems to freeze / crash when watching a flash video or using a flash game..
[10:38] <e66> why you are focusing the time duration? are you going to suggest me that this time duration is negligible and I should not use dns caching?
[10:38] <e66> bekks: ^
[10:38] <bekks> e66: Odd. I get 12ms as longest delay. :)
[10:39] <e66> bekks: I dont live in your country. I have 300ms latency to yahoos server.
[10:39] <bekks> Then 100ms for DNS resolving are negligible.
[10:40] <e66> bekks: thinking a problem a not-problem is not a solution.
[10:40] <bekks> e66: And yahoos servers are slow, I have 210ms to them too.
[10:41] <bekks> e66: Did you try another DNS server yet?
[10:41] <gordonjcp> oh, annoying, ffmpeg has been deprecated in favour of avconv
[10:42] <e66> bekks:  I use googles dns server. BTW external dns is not the issue here.
[10:43] <RWOverdijk> Is there an alternative to empathy? I mean, empathy is completely integrated with ubuntu 12.04, and I really don't like it. It doesn't even work (it signs me in everywhere but I always have to manually sign in my msn account)
[10:44] <RWOverdijk> If there was a way to solve that, I guess empathy would be fine.
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> RWOverdijk  there's pidgin, i guess it's similar
[10:44] <RWOverdijk> MonkeyDust: I know pidgin, I usually use pidgin. But it doesn't integrate with ubuntu as well. Like the status thingy and the notifications.
[10:45] <nicekiwi> hey I installed ubuntu from a live USB with acpi off boot setting, the system installed and I rebooted but nothing come up on the screen? How can I get into Grub before the linux system starts booting? presumably to add that into the bootloader..
[10:45] <kyubotsu> RWOverdijk: do a quick search on Software Center. surely options will come up. empathy is default instant messaging software since karmic though...
[10:45] <Azzle-Dazzle> How do I add something to the start up programs ? Do i just put the command in? like- Sudo PS3MediaServer ?
[10:47] <bekks> e66: if external DNS isnt the problem - then where does that delay of 100ms actually happens?
[10:47] <nicekiwi> Azzle-Dazzle, without the sudo bit, yes.
[10:47] <nicekiwi> aww.. i was so close
[10:47] <rootninja> !
[10:48] <kyubotsu> Azzle-Dazzle: the button on the very top right corner (top bar) has an option for 'startup applications'
[10:48] <e66> bekks: The problem I describe in this channel is not about external dns. Its about configuring dnsmasq with network manager.  external dns is out of problem scope.
[10:48] <RWOverdijk> kyubotsu: I'll search. By the way, where do I go with empathy specific questions? I wish I could just fix the sign in issue. Because other than that it's a great application. Light weight, not in my way and nicely integrated.
[10:48] <nicekiwi> kyubotsu, he left.
[10:49] <bekks> e66: Then I am out of your ticket since you dont explain where you got that 100ms delay when its not an external DNS problem. I'm sorry.
[10:49] <kyubotsu> RWOverdijk: i believe there should be an #empathy channel ...
[10:50] <e66> bekks: read my question again please.
[10:50] <pentagon> How do I search for a file from cli ?
[10:50] <RWOverdijk> kyubotsu: Nope. Just me in there.
[10:50] <bekks> pentagon: "find" :)
[10:50] <e66> 100ms is time takes for dns resolving.  If I use dns caching it take 0ms.
[10:50] <codemaniac> pentagon: use the find command
[10:51] <codemaniac> pentagon: find /path/to/look/for -name "*file*" -print
[10:51] <codemaniac> pentagon: find /path/to/look/for -name "*file*" -print 2> /dev/null
[10:52] <pentagon> dev null ?
[10:52] <Boreeas> Or 'locate'
[10:52] <hannah_irina> hi, this is the error how crashed my firefox on ubuntu: (firefox:5128): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_window_get_user_data: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed , how i resolve?
[10:52] <codemaniac> pentagon: the error messages are redirected to /dev/null
[10:53] <bekks> hannah_irina: Thats an assertion only, not a clue why your firefox crashed.
[10:53] <administrator> hi guys
[10:53] <codemaniac> if you look for a file in directories you dont have a permission to look into
[10:53] <administrator> i want to block pen drive in ubuntu 12.04
[10:54] <kyubotsu> RWOverdijk: also, if you consider this behaviour to be a bug then by all means file it
[10:54] <kyubotsu> !bug
[10:54] <pentagon> How come i hve no dhclient.leases file ?
[10:54] <RWOverdijk> kyubotsu: I consider the whole msn service to be a bug.. :p But I think it's a bug in empathy, not so much ubuntu.
[10:55] <hannah_irina> bekks uff
[10:55] <pentagon> Isn't it supposed to have one to use dhcp I ran find / dhclient.leases
[10:55] <kyubotsu> RWOverdijk: fair enough
[10:55] <pentagon> codemaniac: any ideas ?
[10:55] <codemaniac> pentagon: i have no idea what is dhclient.leases file .
[10:55] <RWOverdijk> kyubotsu: So, last time I'll bother you. Where do I file potential empathy bugs?
[10:55] <pentagon> It seems there is always a gap between the way the machine runs and the manuals.
[10:56] <codemaniac> where does it reside /etc ?
[10:56] <geirha> pentagon: try:  locate dhclient.leases
[10:56] <codemaniac> pentagon: i my system it is /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[10:56] <bekks> codemaniac: Thats correct.
[10:57] <codemaniac> pentagon: find / -name dhclient.leases -print 2>/dev/null
[10:57] <kyubotsu> RWOverdijk: i'd say the most commonly venue would be via Launchpad. check out the factoid !bug as well
[10:57] <pentagon> there it is! locate geirha is that a new command
[10:58] <pentagon> codemaniac: why dev/null
[10:58] <folorn> hmm
[10:58] <bekks> pentagon: "locate geirha" is the command to use locate to find the file named "geirha".
[10:58] <bekks> 0929 125255 < codemaniac> pentagon: the error messages are redirected to /dev/null
[10:59] <geirha> pentagon: No, it's common on linux systems. Though it doesn't show you current files, it shows you files from a database that gets updated once a day
[10:59] <kyubotsu> !bug > RWOverdijk
[10:59] <pentagon> oic
[11:00] <pentagon> well my dhclient.leases is empty yet i am connected what is the deal ?
[11:00] <RWOverdijk> kyubotsu: Thanks.
[11:01] <pentagon> man said that the leases are stored there until they expire at which time a new one gets requested
[11:01] <geirha> pentagon: ls /var/lib/dhcp/
[11:01] <bekks> pentagon: Because you dont use the ISC DHCP client necessarily.
[11:02] <rohl> My epson px 660 can print but not scan,has anyone had this problem
[11:03] <pentagon> ohhhhh geirha thats how its doing it, so it is a bit different than the man says
[11:03] <hannah_irina> hi, how to install java in ubuntu?
[11:04] <bekks> pentagon: The man page says exactly the same on "locate".
[11:04] <pentagon> bekks: that is all that is installed although i dont understand why thered dhcp and dhcp3 side by side
[11:04] <bekks> pentagon: Because you've installed both?
[11:04] <pentagon> no im talking about the leases file at this point
[11:04] <pentagon> bekks: do you even use ubuntu ?
[11:04] <geirha> hannah_irina: Open the software center and search for java
[11:05] <hannah_irina> k
[11:05] <bekks> pentagon: For a couple of years, yes.
[11:05] <pentagon> well it has both in there by default
[11:05] <pentagon> beats me why
[11:06] <AdrianDC> Hi is anyone available for a little Kubuntu question ^^?
[11:06] <Domincii> Hello, I'm very new to Ubuntu and IIRC's, am I allowed to post links here?
[11:06] <bekks> pentagon: How long are you using Ubuntu now? ;)
[11:06] <bekks> pentagon: ls -lha /sbin/dhclient*
[11:06] <auronandace> AdrianDC: ask ad you shall find out
[11:07] <AdrianDC> Great, people alive around here thanks :D
[11:07] <AdrianDC> I installed Kubuntu on a separate partition of my Seashell Asus 1225B netbook, 1.33Ghz, 4GB, 500GB,
[11:08] <geirha> On a side note, there's also a #kubuntu channel
[11:08] <AdrianDC> everything works just fine, I got burg working and configured perfectly,
[11:08] <pentagon> bekks: one is green one blue, whats blue mean ?
[11:08] <Gycklarn> Domincii, Sure, if it's related to a question
[11:08] <Domincii> I'm having some graphical problems (I think) though my descriptive capabilties are lackluster as best, could someone please take a look at these screenshots and see if they can assist me at all? http://imgur.com/a/krup9
[11:08] <AdrianDC> but the little bug but not big bug is that on shutdown, if connected to charger, the pc reboots..
[11:08] <AdrianDC> Any ideas?
[11:08] <Domincii> Thanks, Gycklarn.
[11:08] <wino> anyone have experience with jbod sata 6.0 controller cards in 12.04?
[11:08] <wino> or know of any worth checking out
[11:08] <bekks> pentagon: /sbin/dhclient2 is a symlink to /sbin/dhclient
[11:09] <bekks> pentagon: Which is indicated by the "-> dhclient" you can see in that command, too.
[11:09] <wino> I need an extra 2 sata 6.0 ports :|
[11:09] <bekks> wino: whats that "6.0"? Do you mean SATA-2 or SATA-3?
[11:10] <wino> sata-3 == sata 6.0 (gbit/s)
[11:10] <wino> sata 1 is 1.5GBit/s
[11:10] <bekks> Thats why it is named "SATA-3", not 6.0 ;)
[11:10] <wino> sata 2 is 2gbit/s, allegedly, to spec, etc, etc
[11:10] <wino> or sata-III
[11:11] <wino> so are you bickering over a naming convention or do you have an answer?
[11:11] <ktwo> hi where should i mount a windows share into ubuntu? whats the usual path?
[11:11] <pentagon> Well why does ubuntu change from the standard dhcp client?
[11:11] <bekks> wino: So which connector do you want to have for that sata card? Did you take a look into the HCL already?
[11:11] <arunkumar413> hi, i plugged in a sd micro card in to my laptop but i cannot see any drive to browse files in ubuntu
[11:12] <wino> bekks: Looking for a controller card or a raidcard that can do jbod
[11:12] <wino> I want to add more SSDs to my box
[11:12] <Basstard`> wino: And there's SATA 2.5, 2.6, and so on.
[11:12] <pentagon> i think i was hacked agin
[11:12] <wino> Basstard`: thanks for the irrelevant information
[11:12] <AdrianDC> bekks: Any idea for the shutdown with power reboot thing?
[11:12] <pentagon> my tty interfaces have different fonts
[11:12] <bekks> pentagon: Why do you think so?
[11:12] <Basstard`> wino: ?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> pentagon  hacked?
[11:12] <pentagon> and there was a loopback and a port 8118 connection
[11:13] <bekks> wino: Which interface? ISA, VLB, EISA, PCI, PCIE, PCIX?
[11:13] <wino> Basstard`: sata 6.0 jbod controllers, do you know of any? Not looking to argue semantics
[11:13] <wino> isa.
[11:13] <pentagon> dont make no sense to me
[11:13] <wino> ... idiot
[11:13] <RWOverdijk> Is there a driver guru in the house? (video card). Gnome-shell is eating my resources and I suspect it's a missing driver, but that's as far as my experience with this goes.
[11:13] <wino> does pci have the bandwidth for that?
[11:13] <wino> rilly?
[11:13] <bekks> wino: If you want to get personal or get rude, get out, please.
[11:13]  * nicekiwi meow
[11:13] <wino> push firmly on your shoulders
[11:13] <arunkumar413> hi, i plugged in a sd micro card in to my laptop but i cannot see any drive to browse files in ubuntu
[11:14] <pentagon> wino: heres a dollar get yourself some breath mints
[11:14] <wino> maybe you'll be able to pull your head from your ass
[11:14] <bekks> !ops | wino
[11:14] <Pricey> wino: There's no need for that. Lets move on nicely :)
[11:14] <Myrtti> wino: please be civil
[11:14] <wino> you're asking irrelevant questions, you can't answer my question
[11:14] <wino> why are you continuing on a pointless path of conversation
[11:14] <pentagon> wino: if you are homless go to the fast food and get salt and use saltwater for mouth rinse
[11:14] <wino> to express your knowledge of an ISA bus?
[11:15] <pentagon> 8118 is the tor relay port correct ?
[11:15] <wino> Pendantic and trite answers are about as useful as my name calling
[11:15] <RWOverdijk> pentagon: Don't enable him...
[11:15] <Myrtti> wino: move on.
[11:15] <bekks> wino: If you cant even answer whether you want PCIE or PCIX, I am just setting you on brain ignore. Thanks for the conversation, good luck.
[11:16] <pentagon> wino: get a job grouch
[11:16] <wino> bekks: what about that nifty isa bus you were talking about
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> come on guys, know when to stop
[11:16] <wino> I'm sure that's the one I want, since you brought it up
[11:16] <auronandace> pentagon: stop that, theres no need
[11:16]  * nicekiwi meow
[11:16] <pentagon> wino: i know what it is like to live in a trash can
[11:16]  * RWOverdijk sighs
[11:16] <wino> any ISA sata cards natively supports?
[11:17] <pentagon> big bird gets brothersome
[11:17] <wino> I'm in need of a sata card faster than the PCI bus but I'd like a pci card...
[11:17] <wino> you get that you were being a jerk yourself
[11:17] <wino> accept your mutal blame
[11:17] <wino> mutual
[11:17] <pentagon> wino: forget it its useless
[11:18] <auronandace> pentagon, wino: please stick to support, drop the insults and jeering
[11:18] <Domincii> Anyone who can help with my little problem I posted earlier?
[11:18] <wino> Then I will repeat, does anyone have any experience with a sata-3 (6bit/s) jbod controllers or sata controllers that can be put into jbod
[11:18] <RWOverdijk> Now kiss, and move on. It's saturday :)
[11:18] <pentagon> wino: that is offtopic
[11:18] <wino> Perhaps not on the ISA bus, but I'm open to options
[11:18] <bekks> RWOverdijk: It's caturday ;)
[11:18] <nicekiwi> how do I add the boot flag "acpi=off" to the grub config?
[11:18] <wino> pentagon: hardware compatibility is off topic?
[11:19] <RWOverdijk> bekks: Oooooh how clever of you! :p playing with words and all that, I see what you did there!
[11:19] <wino> pentagon: hardware compatibility is off topic?
[11:19] <pentagon> no  it isnt
[11:19] <wino> okay, then what are you talking about?
[11:19] <pentagon> just take a deep breath
[11:20] <wino> Then I will repeat, does anyone have any experience with a sata-3 (6bit/s) jbod controllers or sata controllers that can be put into jbod
[11:20] <administrator__> how to block removable device
[11:20] <bekks> RWOverdijk: Just forget about it - "caturday" is a joke you dont know about. Let's move on.
[11:20] <wino> any non-free cards, any cards that may be supported out of the box?
[11:20] <RWOverdijk> wino: Perhaps if it's more linux specific, #linux can help? Just trying to get you your help so we can move on. :)
[11:20] <llutz_> administrator__: remove your users from "plugdev" group
[11:20] <wino> RWOverdijk: I'm looking for compatibility
[11:21] <wino> but thanks for your... whatever that was
[11:21] <RWOverdijk> bekks: You were refering to them fighting, catting, no? I was just overreacting, as a joke.
[11:21] <administrator__> from user and groups
[11:21] <pentagon> is port 8118 a tor relay ?
[11:21] <nicekiwi> how do I add the boot flag "acpi=off" to the grub config?
[11:21] <RWOverdijk> wino: It was an attempt at helping.
[11:21] <pentagon> I am not willing to uase ubuntu if it supports militant sodomites.
[11:21] <bekks> RWOverdijk: No, I was referring to "caturday", just laying around lazy like a cat.
[11:22] <RWOverdijk> bekks: Sorry then..
[11:22] <llutz_> nicekiwi: edit /etc/default/grub, the line to read  ....="quiet splash acpi=off"  then save it and run sudo update-grub
[11:22] <kyubotsu> wino: you're asking for hardware recommendation not relevant to ubuntu. let us know when you have an actual problem
[11:23] <wino> kyubotsu: okay, I bought one, perc/6i, does it work
[11:23] <kyubotsu> wino: there is a ##hardware channel for this sort of inquiry
[11:23] <wino> just bought another, an areca
[11:23] <auronandace> kyubotsu: he wants to know what ubuntu supports, it is relevant
[11:23] <wino> an ubuntu specific hardware channel?
[11:23] <Myrtti> nicekiwi: edit /etc/default/grub - how depends on what you have there at the moment
[11:24] <wino> or perhaps *nix drivers are a tad different, and what works in my FreeBSD box might not work in an ubuntu box?
[11:24] <kyubotsu> the question didn't read as clear to me, auronandace
[11:24] <pentagon> Is ubuntu the culmination of the CDC backdoor?
[11:24] <pentagon> CoDC
[11:25] <auronandace> kyubotsu: i'm no hardware expert but he is clearly trying to buy something and make sure ubuntu will work with it first
[11:25] <pentagon> What is port 8118.
[11:25] <Iceman_B> um, does using btrfs come with any restrictions?
[11:25] <kyubotsu> auronandace: fair enough then
[11:26] <Iceman_B> I'm trying to create a partition for /, with btrfs, but it fails to mount
[11:26] <auronandace> Iceman_B: you need to keep in mind it is still considered experimental
[11:26] <Iceman_B> ah
[11:26] <pentagon> Is there a channel where I can just star at matrix code?
[11:26] <pentagon> This is getting tedius
[11:26] <Basstard`> 8118 is not 2112
[11:26] <Iceman_B> auronandace: n/m then, I switches to ext4 and now it does mount
[11:27] <pentagon> I need to wind down
[11:27] <Iceman_B> I managed to get PXE booting running, I feel happy now XD
[11:27] <Boreeas> pentagon: /join 0
[11:28] <Iceman_B> Boreeas: irssi shouldn't fall for that, does it?
[11:28] <nicekiwi> how do I get root access to files on a mounted partition?
[11:28] <RWOverdijk> Gnome-shell is eating my resources and I suspect it's a missing driver, but that's as far as my experience with this goes. I've read several resources, but that got me nowhere. I'm on an imac, about 2 years old, i5 processor, and if I looked it up correctly an "ATI Broadway PRO [Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series]" videocard.
[11:29] <pentagon> Boreeas: nothing is going on in 0
[11:29] <Boreeas> Iceman_B: I don't know, probably depends on how much your client filters
[11:29] <pentagon> Is sub 7 back ?
[11:29] <Boreeas> I think most clients prepend a hash, though
[11:30] <pentagon> HIt em with the matrix screen and type wake up neo
[11:30] <administrator__> how to block removable device
[11:30] <administrator__> how to block removable device
[11:30] <administrator__> how to block removable device
[11:30] <pentagon> thats enough
[11:31] <pentagon> no flooding buddy
[11:31] <pentagon> buy a pair of pants that fit
[11:31] <pentagon> if you are homless there is always salvation army
[11:31] <Iceman_B> Boreeas: I'd assume irssi is smarter than that....
[11:31] <pentagon> Iceman_B: I wouldn't it cant even do an ssl connection
[11:32] <Iceman_B> different question, what is the ubuntu equivalent of having a "windows .wim" image available on a server to deploy?
[11:32] <Iceman_B> pentagon: irssi does ssl
[11:32] <pentagon> Iceman_B: not the ubuntu package.
[11:32] <llutz_> pentagon: sure it does
[11:33] <pentagon> llutz_: no it always says unable to verify
[11:33] <Myrtti> pentagon: yes the ubuntu package - although it might require other packages to work that aren't necessarily marked as dependencies
[11:33] <administrator__> how to block removable device
[11:33] <Iceman_B> pentagon: !vervet.foonetic.net *** You are connected to vervet.foonetic.net with TLSv1-AES256-SHA-256bits
[11:33] <Myrtti> administrator__: can you expand your question, what do you mean by blocking and what do you mean by removable device?
[11:33] <Iceman_B> I'm too dumb to compile my own irssi(or anything), so i used the repository one
[11:33] <Iceman_B> works just fine
[11:33] <pentagon> Myrtti: well that is not to 'smart' is it, get with the conversation yous always just pick out 1 line
[11:34] <llutz_> apt-cache depends irssi ... -> Depends: libssl1.0.0
[11:34] <PapaSierra> how do you know if pcre is installed?
[11:34] <kyubotsu> pentagon: you sound like you need a break
[11:34] <pentagon> Iceman_B: it isnt a matter of bieng dumb, its so simple the community makes it harder than it needs to be
[11:35] <Iceman_B> pentagon: hm, perhaps
[11:35] <pentagon> new features never work
[11:35] <Iceman_B> but I come from a windows background, I'm used to know where all the files go after an installation
[11:35] <pentagon> and are hardly necisarry
[11:35] <blackshirt> What features?
[11:35] <Iceman_B> not so much the case when rolling my own binaries
[11:35] <Iceman_B> I have no idea where to put what
[11:35] <pentagon> some of the coders know this when they put comments like snake oil in ssl certs
[11:36] <Iceman_B> (inb4 thats what she said)
[11:36] <pentagon> its garbage, its a false hope
[11:36] <kyubotsu> this whole calling out people and negative criticism is getting old as well, pentagon
[11:36] <blackshirt> -L to list of files and their location
[11:36] <pentagon> Jesus Christ is the true hope
[11:36] <Iceman_B> ....
[11:36] <llutz_> !ot | pentagon
[11:36] <Iceman_B> what does a carpenter have to do with things?
[11:36] <Myrtti> come on guys, back to support, this is getting way offtopic now
[11:36] <blackshirt> Iceman_b, you can use dpkg-L to list of files and their location
[11:36] <Iceman_B> blackshirt: ah, cool. tnx
[11:37] <administrator__> i want to block removable device like pendrive ext. hdd
[11:37] <administrator__> i want to block removable device like pendrive ext. hdd
[11:38] <pentagon> i am trying to figur out the mouse gesture to get the matrix datafall piped from genoa II drones drop from the lunar colony
[11:38] <Myrtti> administrator__: what do you mean by blocking? stopping it from automounting, or stopping it from starting nautilus, or what?
[11:38] <blackshirt> iceman_b, apt was greatest tool
[11:38] <administrator__> i want no one can use pen drive on computer
[11:42] <administrator__> on one can use pendrive external pen drive  on pc but user can able to use usb keyboard, mouse must
[11:42] <blackshirt> disable gvfs mount
[11:42] <administrator__> on one can use pendrive external pen drive  on pc but user can able to use usb keyboard, mouse must
[11:43] <pentagon> what is the ubuntu social channel ?
[11:43] <administrator__>  you want any details form my side now
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> pentagon  #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <administrator__> hello myrtti ru there?
[11:45] <kyubotsu> blackshirt: is that just a suggestion or you have an actual command for it? just curious.. sounds interesting
[11:45] <Myrtti> administrator__: I have no idea how to achieve that.
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> administrator__  one way would be to physicaly remove usb from your pc
[11:46] <kyubotsu> somehow i don't think he'd go that route, MonkeyDust
[11:46] <kyubotsu> in fact, he did mention he uses a usb mouse/keyboard
[11:46] <administrator__> but thing is that in pc i have to enable usb keyboard mouse
[11:46] <tmbao> hi everyone
[11:47] <tmbao> i have a trouble with sound in Ubuntu
[11:47] <tmbao> my external speaker doesn't work
[11:47] <tmbao> but both my headphone and internal speaker work
[11:47] <tmbao> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[11:48] <tmbao> can anyone help me to fix it
[11:48] <Iceman_B> I think you'll need to provide more info
[11:49] <tmbao> @iceman_B: you say me?
[11:49] <llutz_> administrator__: ugly hack: rename/remove "usb-storage.ko" kernel-module
[11:49] <kyubotsu> yeah, that sounds bad
[11:50] <administrator__> how to do it can you explain in brief?
[11:50] <kyubotsu> on a side note, you're talking about blacklisting the kernel module in question ..
[11:51] <kyubotsu> the problem i see with that is that it will render the usb port unusable, would it not
[11:53] <PapaSierra> hi all. is pcre something you install like a normal package?
[11:54] <llutz_> kyubotsu: why should it?
[11:54] <Gycklarn> I just installed Ubuntu 12.4.1 on a laptop and upgraded all packages. Then I added the cinnamon repo to apt-get and installed cinnamon, but when I try to log into cinnamon it just gives me... Gnome 2, I think? Any one know why?
[11:54] <lousygarua> PapaSierra, it's that Perl thing, right? I think you use a package that knows to download and install other stuff from the PCRE
[11:54] <llutz_> kyubotsu: usb-storage is just the subset to be used for usb-disks, it won't affect usb in general
[11:54] <lousygarua> PapaSierra, but then again, I'm not a Perl user
[11:55] <Jacruth> ey guys, how could I check what graphic card and what video drivers am I using through bash?
[11:55] <administrator> hi guys
[11:55] <kyubotsu> llutz_: i see.. guess it can't hurt too bad to try, let us hope he's reading up then
[11:55] <Guest95168> i want to block removable device like pen drive, ext. hdd etc ?
[11:55] <PapaSierra> lousygarua right, it's a perl thing but it's been adopted by many projects. in my case, php
[11:56] <Guest95168> ho to do ? kindly guide pls.
[11:56] <lousygarua> PapaSierra, well you probably know that PHP has PEAR, maybe there's an installer like that for Perl too
[11:56] <kyubotsu> llutz_: i normally do not suggest things that aren't 'official' though..
[11:57] <PapaSierra> lousygarua interesting idea. i'll keep looking
[11:57] <Guest95168> i want to block removable device like pen drive, ext. hdd etc ?
[11:57] <Guest95168> i want to block removable device like pen drive, ext. hdd etc ?
[11:57] <Guest95168> i want to block removable device like pen drive, ext. hdd etc ?
[11:57] <FloodBot1> Guest95168: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <kyubotsu> ok, now he's trolling
[11:58] <D[4]ni> lousygarua, PapaSierra: pcre is for perl-compatible regular expressions. it's integrated in some languages (perl, php) and available as a module for others (don't know any atm, but there are some)
[11:58] <Guest95168> ok thanks
[11:58] <D[4]ni> PapaSierra: so what do you want to do?
[11:59] <lousygarua> D[4]ni, thanks for the explanation
[11:59] <Cuddy> hello everyone. i have a problem with booting up either a live or install for ubuntu... when i boot it it goes to a grey screen and everything seems to start being detected hardware wise and then nothing happens... you hear the sound turn on and the xbox controller light up and get detected and such. why the grey screen?
[11:59] <Guest95168> hello anyone help me in block pen drive
[11:59] <kyubotsu> !info pcre
[12:00] <PapaSierra> D[4]ni well basically when i install kohana (php framework) it says "PCRE has not been compiled with UTF-8 support.". so yah, the goal is to satisfy that
[12:01] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[12:01] <Shazer[2]> What does rm -rf / --no-preserve-root do?
[12:01] <lousygarua> D[4]ni, PapaSierra, sounds like you got to compile PHP yourself
[12:01] <llutz_> idiot Shazer[2]
[12:01] <llutz_> !danger
[12:01] <jrib> Shazer[2]: deletes everything, please don't repeat it here
[12:01] <Shazer[2]> jrib, thank you.
[12:01] <Shazer[2]> Some guy just told me to use it to fix python compile errors.
[12:02] <D[4]ni> Shazer[2], removes all files from your whole file system, read: ALL partitions
[12:02] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop
[12:02] <D[4]ni> all mounted partitions*
[12:02] <kyubotsu> really.. you're a python programmer and you almost fell for that.. sigh
[12:02] <PapaSierra> lousygarua i'm not so sure. for instance look at this https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/commit/9a5999608ee6b4c62e1ced62c0ecb51098748cab in debian/rules he deliberately fixes the missing pcre support
[12:03] <Shazer[2]> kyubotsu, I said to the guy I know what it does and he said it fixes errors so I had to confirm.
[12:03] <Shazer[2]> Sorry I'm not as smart as you.
[12:03] <kyubotsu> sure.. move on now
[12:03] <llutz_> Shazer[2]: for the fact that you really seem to be the 1st posting a command like that here without trolling, i appologize for the "idiot"
[12:03] <coellobranco> hi
[12:04] <mbucko> will ubuntus purple color be removed from the default style any time soon?
[12:04] <lousygarua> mbucko, i like it purple :)
[12:04] <Shazer[2]> That's alright llutz
[12:04] <Shazer[2]> llutz_
[12:04] <D[4]ni> well, for me, the purple color disappeared from my grub screen at least
[12:04] <coellobranco> i have 3 hard disks... i have ubuntu, archlinux and win7... grub-mkinfo no detect archlinux partition, help?
[12:04] <mbucko> i am allergic to purple
[12:05] <D[4]ni> dunno if that's intended
[12:05] <kyubotsu> mbucko: if anything as such is to happen it will be announced all proper channels
[12:06] <kyubotsu> in the meantime, you can customize the look of your system in a variety of ways
[12:06] <Guest95168> hello anyone help me in block pen drive
[12:07] <blackshirt> !info packetfence
[12:07] <blackshirt> !info packet-fence
[12:07] <mbucko> is there any source based package manager for ubuntu?
[12:08] <llutz_> Guest95168: sudo modprobe -r usb_storage && sudo mv /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.koX
[12:08] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop. please help
[12:08] <llutz_> Guest95168: yes, this is ugly, no further support, look for a better solution
[12:08] <blackshirt> mbucko, actually you can build packages from sources with apt
[12:09] <mbucko> blackshirt, but it doesnt automatically download them does it?
[12:10] <Jacruth> ey guys, I can't install the current nvidia driver for my GeForce  9600 GT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1249351/
[12:11] <tomaz> hello
[12:13] <phil_> hello ppl.. two question concerning keybinds.. 1. is there a key shortcut for the bottom bar in gnome3 ? 2. is there a key shortcut for the sidebar (which appears after moving your mouse on the top left)?
[12:14] <jrib> Guest95168, llutz_: you can probably achieve this with policykit, but I don't know the details
[12:15] <llutz_> jrib: i'm sure there are better/cleaner ways to do this by renaming
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> phil_  keep the 'super' key pressed to see shortcuts
[12:15] <llutz_> than*
[12:15] <Erealz> hi eveyone
[12:15] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop. please help
[12:15] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop. please help
[12:15] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop. please help
[12:15] <FloodBot1> arunkumar413: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <Erealz> anyone work with aide?
[12:17] <jrib> Erealz: ask your real question please
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !info aide
[12:18] <Guest95168> where i get policykit
[12:18] <Erealz> ok im getting this error Couldn't open file /var/lib/aide/please-dont-call-aide-without-parameters/aide.db.new for writing
[12:19] <Erealz> how ever in tutorials and youtube vids the command works with out any arguments
[12:20] <Erealz> i dont know what im doing wrong
[12:21] <Erealz> in the video the aide demon start with aide --init
[12:21] <Erealz> or -i however it not working
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  aide  -c  aide.conf  --init
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> This will create a new database called aide.db.new.  This command will scan all the files in the /etc/ directory and stores them as a database called aide.db.new.
[12:21] <Erealz> top dosnt show it running
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-security-notes-aide-file-integrity
[12:22] <Erealz> monkeydust wouldnt it be aide -c /etc/aide/aide.conf --init?
[12:23] <Erealz> AIDE, version 0.15.1
[12:23] <Erealz> ### AIDE database at /var/lib/aide/aide.db.new initialized.
[12:24] <Erealz> so it working?
[12:25] <rob_p> Erealz: As I recall, AIDE is run periodically from a cron job. So there's no daemon that runs all the time...
[12:26] <Erealz> i know there are admin here do any of you have a script that logs and monitors your server and have it email you the logs i would really appreciate it if you could send me a copy ?...
[12:26] <bekks> Erealz: Thats what "nagios" is designed to do.
[12:26] <Erealz> rob_p thank i guess that clears it up
[12:26] <Erealz> never herd of it
[12:27] <bekks> Erealz: And it is far more complex than "just a script".
[12:27] <Erealz> ill give a google search
[12:28] <tomaz> fuck all
[12:29] <Gycklarn> Where do I discuss cinnamon on Ubuntu?
[12:29] <Erealz> looking into nagios umm is there a good post about how to /install ?...
[12:29] <auronandace> Gycklarn: in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <rob_p> Erealz: You're probably gonna find that AIDE is really bothersome if you don't configure it exactly for your purposes and aren't willing to keep it's database up to date...
[12:30] <Gycklarn> auronandace, Doesn't really seem like the right place, but I guess it'll have to do
[12:30] <PapaSierra> i want to uninstall pcre but i get messages like: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[12:30] <PapaSierra> and  util-linux : Depends: upstart-job
[12:31] <Erealz> i need to setup a few things
[12:31] <beastie_> hi guys, im gonna partition my 100G hdd space manually, who can help me this way to decide partition sizes?
[12:31] <Erealz> anyone want to go into private mode and help me in this lil project
[12:31] <bekks> Erealz: Just ask in here.
[12:31] <Erealz> ok
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !partition > bekks
[12:32] <blackshirt> beastie_ what do you need for your system ?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !partition > beastie_
[12:32] <bekks> Erealz: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/nagios.html
[12:32] <Erealz> i just did apt-get install nagios  and not in the repo
[12:33] <llutz_> !info  nagios3 | Erealz
[12:33] <Erealz> is the project dead or obsolete
[12:33] <PapaSierra> i have installed pcre but $ pcretest gives "command not found" is there any explanation for this?
[12:33] <beastie_> my partition table is like : 256M boot; 10G /; 4G swap; 5G /var; 4G /tmp  --what do you think?
[12:34] <markoshcp> hey is there anyone that can help me, i am a new user
[12:34] <blackshirt> beastie_, what do you want to your system, for desktop or server?
[12:34] <beastie_> blackshirt: i cannot decide whether to give more than 256M to boot, and /var /tmp...desktop
[12:34] <bekks> Erealz: Please read the link I just gave you.
[12:34] <llutz_> PapaSierra: the script "pcretest" was removed from libpcre
[12:35] <mack_green> Good Morning
[12:35] <Erealz> im fallowing it now
[12:35] <beastie_> blackshirt: please harry up my time is limited
[12:35] <Erealz> funny iv never herd of it
[12:35] <mack_green> beastie- i usually give about 500m for boot
[12:35] <PapaSierra> llutz ahhh that explains a lot :) i wish i knew 3 hours ago ;)
[12:35] <Erealz> so this nagios will monitor my server and email me the logs right?
[12:35] <beastie_> blackshirt: give some advice according to my partition table and esp about part. sizes. thanks
[12:35] <bekks> Erealz: Thats described in the pretty good documentation of nagios, yes. :)
[12:36] <Jacruth> ey guys, when I install nvidia-current, it boots on tty1, why?
[12:36] <Erealz> i also need a packetsniffer
[12:36] <Erealz> not wireshark
[12:36] <Jacruth> tcpdump?
[12:36] <Erealz> yea
[12:37] <blackshirt> beastie_, usually, /boot was for your files that used for booting process,kernel,grub,initrd ... 250mb was enought big
[12:37] <Erealz> is tcpdump better the snort iv herd snort is also a packetsniffer
[12:37] <beastie_> blackshirt: what do you recommend according to my part table?
[12:37] <blackshirt> beastie_, get more big for /var and /usr
[12:38] <beastie_> blackshirt: i'll be using KDM
[12:38] <blackshirt> beastie_, get more bigger for /var and /usr
[12:38] <beastie_> blackshirt: i only have 100G HDD space for this OS..now how much exactly should I give to both /var and /tmp.root also
[12:38] <blackshirt> beastie_, and if you want keep a lot of files on your /home, you should make it more bigger
[12:39] <vibhav> blackshirt: Why does he need a bigger /var and /usr ?
[12:39] <Erealz> is there a ubuntu channel that just deal with security questions i hate to be a bother
[12:40] <blackshirt> The /var was for cache, log, data and usually dinamically getting more more and more bigger
[12:40] <bekks> Erealz: snort is not a packetfilter.
[12:40] <beastie_> blackshirt: actually i dont use home part that much, i have 600G of NTFS partiotion thaat mounts and use as an external drive for files...gimme more advice aboutt /var and /temp sizes and root
[12:40] <blackshirt> but /var commonly managed by logrotated
[12:40] <vibhav> Erealz: I dont know, but you can talk with the Security team at #ubuntu-security
[12:41] <Night-hacks> i've bridged adaptor my virtual box fedora, but i still cant connect ot it's server via ubuntu
[12:41] <Night-hacks> any idea ?
[12:41] <vibhav> Night-hacks: Is the virtual box fedora install a server?
[12:41] <blackshirt> beastie_, for simplicity for desktop usage, you can just rely on swap and / partition ....
[12:42] <Night-hacks> vibhav: no it's desktop version, but i've turned off the virtual box
[12:42] <administrator> hi
[12:42] <Night-hacks> vibhav: sorry firewall
[12:42] <beastie_> blackshirt: notice i said advice me acc to my part table if you can. thanks anyways
[12:42] <administrator> how to block removable device
[12:42] <vibhav> Night-hacks: Is the problem solved now?
[12:43] <vibhav> Guest95183: What do you mean by block?
[12:43] <Night-hacks> vibhav: no, tcpdump listens on nothing
[12:43] <Guest95183> i want to block pen drive
[12:43] <blackshirt> beastie_, what is your ram sizes?
[12:43] <vibhav> Guest95183: Block a pendrive or block usage of pendrives on the System?
[12:43] <Guest95183> yes dear
[12:43] <blackshirt> beastie_, reduce the swap maybe
[12:43] <vibhav> Guest95183: ?
[12:43] <Guest95183> i want to block pen drive
[12:43] <beastie_> my partition table is like : 256M boot; 10G /; 4G swap; 5G /var; 4G /tmp  --what do you think? will be used with KDM for software development purposes as a Desktop OS. thanks
[12:44] <Guest95183> any pen drive or ext. hdd
[12:44] <bekks> Guest95183: Unplug the USB port :)
[12:44] <AlanBell> Guest95183: sudo echo "blacklist usb-storage" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:45] <llutz_> fail ^
[12:45] <AlanBell> Guest95183: and reboot probably. That will mean the kernel won't do usb storage any more
[12:45] <blackshirt> beastie_, what sizes of /tmp ?
[12:45] <Guest95183> i try it but still ext. hdd disply in home floder
[12:45] <beastie_> blackshirt: 4G for swap is OK. for Intel corei series processors you can put the RAM size for swap size, but for dual-cores double size..personally i have 4096M of RAM and 4G for swap is quite okay.
[12:45] <Jacruth> Ey guys, I have this: irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
[12:45] <Jacruth> and this is my lspci -v: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1249403/
[12:45] <bekks> Jacruth: Did you try booting with the irqpoll option?
[12:46] <Jacruth> no, BUT
[12:46] <AlanBell> Night-hacks: for bridged networking you have to connect it to the correct adapter on the host, you might have picked the wifi rather than eth0 or the other way round
[12:46] <llutz_> AlanBell: you cannot use redirection with sudo, use: echo "blacklist usb-storage" |sudo tee -a  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:46] <vibhav> Night-hacks: Ok, You have a Ubuntu Desktop Version installed on your computer with a Fedora Install on Virtual Box, am I right?
[12:46] <Jacruth> could the JMICRON controller conflicts with my GeForce driver?
[12:46] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  yes that's right
[12:46] <blackshirt> beastie_, okey..that was not bad
[12:46] <bekks> Jacruth: Most likely, not. Try booting with the irqpoll option as suggested by the error message.
[12:47] <Jacruth> ukey
[12:47] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  and i can see my shared folder from fedora ( smb;//blah blah)
[12:47] <Jacruth> need to edit the grub2 menu
[12:47] <Jacruth> do you remember where is it?
[12:47] <beastie_> blackshirt: harry up i have no time. gimme any advice about part sizes of --/tmp, /var and /root..
[12:47] <AlanBell> llutz_: ah, good point
[12:47] <bekks> !grub2 | Jacruth
[12:47]  * kyubotsu takes notes..
[12:48] <beastie_> blackshirt: 100G HDD space. corei5 processor, and for Software development & Networking purposes
[12:49] <Iceman_B> you know
[12:49] <icallitvera> hey does anyone here use DWM?
[12:49] <vibhav> Night-hacks: hold on, I am testing my solution with a Virtual Machine
[12:49] <Iceman_B> it's 2012, you'd think that Windows 7 would recognie if a partition is using EXT4
[12:49] <icallitvera> I was wondering if there is some patch to compile in application indicators
[12:49] <Iceman_B> isntead of going "unknown partition type"
[12:49] <Iceman_B> ~_~
[12:49] <blackshirt> beastie_, yes, getting bigger for /var ... And your / ..
[12:49] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  ok
[12:50] <beastie_> blackshirt: how bigger?
[12:50] <beastie_> give exact number
[12:51] <vibhav> Night-hacks: How have you created your samba shares?
[12:52] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  in Ubuntu yes, and i can connect to it via fedora
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> beastie_  if you have no time, you should consider paid professional support
[12:53] <vibhav> Night-hacks: no, How are you creating a samba share?
[12:53] <beastie_> MonkeyDust: hold on there
[12:53] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  by Ubuntu graphical facility
[12:53] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  just click to share
[12:53] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  i can see it from windows also
[12:54] <vibhav> Night-hacks: Do you right click on the folder?
[12:54] <Night-hacks> vibhav: yes
[12:54] <vibhav> ah
[12:54] <vibhav> Night-hacks: Can you view your Connection Information from the Network Indicator?
[12:54] <Night-hacks> vibhav: everything's fine
[12:55] <AlanBell> Night-hacks: has your fedora vm picked up an IP address from your network? can Ubuntu ping it?
[12:55] <vibhav> Night-hacks: No, I need some of your network Information
[12:55] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: yes
[12:55] <AlanBell> can ubuntu ssh to the fedora ip address?
[12:56] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: my ssh server is not running on fedora box
[12:56] <AlanBell> what server is it on fedora that you are trying to connect to?
[12:56] <vibhav> Night-hacks: What have you bridged your VirtualBox network to?
[12:57] <Night-hacks> vibhav:  to the correct adaptors, it has IP
[12:57] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: fedora 17
[12:57] <AlanBell> Night-hacks: yes, but what port/service?
[12:57] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: seagull, on port 3868
[12:58] <AlanBell> ok, and you are sure that is running?
[12:58] <splastics> hello, im having a terribly annoying problem deploying ubuntu 12.04 with preseed. my preseed file is perfect, the install goes to reboot without any questions or errors, but then the boot fails and drops to initramfs. i can easily solve this problem by typing "mount /dev/md0 /root && exit", but i cant stop this problem from occurring in preseed! ive uncommented the GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true and run update-grub as a late command but the problem still occurs
[12:58] <AlanBell> maybe telnet localhost 3868 to see if it is talking from the fedora box
[12:59] <AlanBell> then telnet <ip address> 3868 from the ubuntu side to see if you get the same response
[12:59] <splastics> i do notice that GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true changes root=/dev/md0 on one the boot lines in grub.cfg, but it still has 'mduuid' lines in there too
[12:59] <AlanBell> I would also try installing sshd on the fedora box and connecting to that just to prove connectivity is working
[13:00] <AlanBell> Night-hacks: sometimes services bind to localhost and won't listen to external addresses, I don't know about seagull
[13:00] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: could not resolve 192.168.103.45:3868
[13:00] <Night-hacks> AlanBell: telnet says
[13:00] <AlanBell> no colon in telnet
[13:00] <bekks> Night-hacks: wrong syntax. :)
[13:01] <AlanBell> telnet 192.168.103.45 3868
[13:01] <bekks> Night-hacks: telnet <host> <port>
[13:01] <Night-hacks> what kind of syntax is it ;)
[13:01] <Night-hacks> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[13:01] <splastics> nobody can help? :(
[13:01] <llutz_> Night-hacks: as root " lsof -i :3868"  does the service listen on anything != localhost?
[13:02] <lilithsbestfrien> what software for watching dvb-t is there on ubuntu? I just tried kaffeine, but it finds only 4 of 16 stations.
[13:02] <Night-hacks> llutz_:  yes, fuser -n tcp port says that's ok
[13:02] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: kaffeine
[13:02] <llutz_> Night-hacks: fuser only tells "it listens" not the ifaces/addresses
[13:02] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: And kaffeine only uses the channels found, it isnt responsible for getting channels at all :)
[13:03] <bekks> Night-hacks: lsof -i -n
[13:04] <lilithsbestfrien> bekks: what do you mean by that? it has a channel scan function. if not with that, how should I scan for channels?
[13:04] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: That "function" only triggers the DVB-T scan function.
[13:05] <Night-hacks> bekks: it says it's listening
[13:05] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  I have a LGA1156 motherboard (GIgabyte H55M-D2H) that doesn't have a parallel port.  Today I bought a parallel port adapter (Ritmo CC-T35) that slots into a PCI slot.  Unfortunately the supplied drivers don't work with Windows 7 due to the lack of driver signing and I can't get the damn things to work.  I really want to use avrdude to bitbang the parallel port.  Now, because this hardware is kind of
[13:05] <Richard_Cavell> obscure, I want compatibility at all cost.  Which version of Ubuntu should I want to use?
[13:05] <llutz_> Night-hacks: as root " lsof -i :3868"  please paste the output. "its listening" says nothing
[13:07] <Night-hacks> llutz_:  seagull 2547 amir 7u  ipv4  3244  oto  TCP     localhost.localdomain;diameter
[13:08] <llutz_> Night-hacks: localhost there you go
[13:08] <llutz_> Night-hacks: a service listening to localhost only cannot be reached by LAN
[13:09] <Night-hacks> llutz_: but it's been bind to a port
[13:09] <Iceman_B> uh, halp
[13:09] <Iceman_B> how do I recreate a bootloader?
[13:09] <Iceman_B> I b0rked by GRUB
[13:09] <Iceman_B> *my
[13:09] <lilithsbestfrien> bekks, no matter what program actually does the scanning: it only finds 4 of 16 channels. how do I change that? (eyetv finds all 16 with the same hardware)
[13:09] <Iceman_B> (that's not a euphemism)
[13:09] <bekks> Iceman_B: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[13:10] <Iceman_B> I just installed 12.04 to the end of the harddrive
[13:10] <Night-hacks> llutz_: how can i make it work ?1
[13:10] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: By changing the environment for scanning, e.g. putting the antenna to a different place.
[13:10] <Iceman_B> but now im fiddling with W7, and I think I overwrote the MBR
[13:10] <bekks> !grub2 | Iceman_B
[13:10] <llutz_> Night-hacks: read the documentation, check the config.
[13:10] <Iceman_B> thanks much
[13:10] <huhmaster> helllo everyone
[13:11] <llutz_> Night-hacks: idk the software but obviously it doesn't listen as it should.
[13:11] <lilithsbestfrien> bekks: same hardware, same antenna, same place, only different software. eyetv gets 16, on ubuntu I get 4.
[13:13] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: So which "other software" did you try?
[13:13] <keyminor> how do i enable the ssh port from the terminal, am trying to connect and all I get is remote host closed  connection .....
[13:13] <bekks> keyminor: By starting the ssh server service.
[13:14] <krux> sudo service ssh start
[13:14] <AlanBell> keyminor: sounds like you have locked yourself out and got an entry in /etc/hosts.deny on the server
[13:14] <keyminor> krux, thats what am trying but it cant connect
[13:14] <bekks> AlanBell: YOu dont need an entry in /etc/hosts.deny to lock out :)
[13:15] <bekks> keyminor: So you ran that command on the computer you want to connect to?
[13:15] <bekks> keyminor: Or did you run it on the computer you are trying to connect from?
[13:15] <AlanBell> bekks: if it wasn't running you would get connection refused rather than remote host closed connection
[13:16] <lilithsbestfrien> bekks, as I said: eyetv (OS X), finds all of them. on ubuntu I tried only kaffeine.
[13:17] <keyminor> bekks, am trying to connect to a another computer running on linux with ssh installed..just doing an experiment
[13:17] <bekks> lilithsbestfrien: So at least the firmware loaded differs.
[13:17] <bekks> keyminor: That doesnt answer my questions :)
[13:19] <Aristide> Hi ! Its possible to get output of ffmpeg while encoding ?
[13:19] <Aristide> With bash in pipe
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:22] <Iceman_B> ello
[13:22] <Cantide> i
[13:24] <mac_nibblet> Hiho peeps
[13:24] <mac_nibblet> Can somone help me setup a bridged network ?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> !ask > mac_nibblet
[13:26] <Jacruth> Ey guys, when I install nvidia-current, I can only start in TTY
[13:26] <Jacruth> why?
[13:27] <msp301> Jacruth: What Nvidia card to you have?
[13:27] <ruben-ikmaak> hmm, the fallout of the ubuntu unity/amazon flap is very interesting... Mark Shuttleworth: "most of our users are also regular users of Amazon". So does this mean that Amazon is now maket leader in the 3rd world, where Ubuntu is focused on?
[13:27] <Jacruth> msp301, 9600M GT
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> !ot > ruben-ikmaak
[13:28] <Jacruth> msp301, and I'm using 3.2.0-26-generic-pae
[13:28] <bazhang> ruben-ikmaak, wrong place for that
[13:28] <ThinkT510> Jacruth: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[13:28] <ruben-ikmaak> or does this mean Mark isn that focused on bringing good software to the 3rd world as he told me in the times of the Hoary Hedgehog?
[13:29] <bazhang> ruben-ikmaak, #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ruben-ikmaak: this is a support channel
[13:29] <ruben-ikmaak> ok, just wondering, not to troll.
[13:29] <Jacruth> ThinkT510, installed the kernel source, headers and image, purged nvidia-current, updated aptitude and I did a "apt-get install nvidia-current"
[13:29] <msp301> Jacruth: Hey, I think the 8000,9000 series have issues with the latest driver versions (from what I've heard) ... I've not a 660 which doesn't even run without the latest driver
[13:29] <ruben-ikmaak> i thought that this was something very on-topic, but indeed not support related :P
[13:30] <Jacruth> msp301 :O
[13:30] <Aristide> Hi ! Its possible to get output of ffmpeg while encoding from pipe in bash ?
[13:30] <Jacruth> msp301, is there any way to use any other kind of driveer?
[13:30] <bekks> Jacruth: Use the nouveau driver instead.
[13:30] <ruben-ikmaak> is there a # ubuntu-politics or -sociology? this clearly doesnt belong in -offtopic
[13:30] <Taffflash> Hi guys Im new to linux and I Installed it along side win 7. Im having issues rebooting into win 7. any tips please?
[13:31] <msp301> Jacruth: Either use the nouveau driver as bekks has said or install the absolute latest from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat
[13:31] <Jacruth2> bekks, where could I get it
[13:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-discuss ruben-ikmaak
[13:31] <ruben-ikmaak> bazhang: ok, thank you, that sounds more like it!
[13:31] <bekks> Jacruth2: Install it using apt-get (as usual), and purge the nvidia driver before.
[13:32] <bazhang> Taffflash, what version of ubuntu
[13:32] <Jacruth2> thanks guys
[13:32] <ruben-ikmaak> lol, it is a very underpopulated area at -discuss
[13:33] <ThinkT510> ruben-ikmaak: that doesn't impact the function of this channel
[13:33] <msp301> Jacruth2: Hope you get it working :)
[13:34] <Taffflash> bazhang, the latest
[13:34] <Jacruth2> thanks msp301
[13:34] <Taffflash> It does go to the boot screen where I can pick what os to boot into but when I pick win 7 it just boots into  ubuntu
[13:35] <sliffstar> looking for forlder lock
[13:35] <sliffstar> floder lock  software
[13:35] <sliffstar> folder lock  software
[13:36] <bekks> sliffstar: What are you trying to achieve, basically?
[13:37] <sliffstar> bekks,  i want to lock ma folder so that cant be accessible
[13:38] <sliffstar> bekks, its all about  privacy  for the folders
[13:38] <ThinkT510> !encrypt
[13:39] <codemaniac> sliffstar: may be truecrypt
[13:39] <codemaniac> http://askubuntu.com/questions/104542/is-there-a-way-to-password-protect-individual-folders
[13:39] <cosmo> hey, i'm new to linux and not very computer savvy, is there some kind of tutorial application for ubuntu aimed at people new to using a shell-terminal interface?
[13:39] <ThinkT510> !manual | cosmo
[13:40] <ThinkT510> !terminal | cosmo
[13:40] <gry> cosmo read the Terminal Documentation here --^
[13:40] <msp301> ubottu: might this help? http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[13:41] <cosmo> thank you Think
[13:41] <codemaniac> !tab | cosmo
[13:42] <cosmo> codemaniac, hah
[13:42] <cosmo> it's  weird executing commands with physical buttons instead of virtual ones
[13:42] <VlanZ> is it possible to execute "cut" on $var  instead on an actual file?
[13:43] <codemaniac> VlanZ: sure
[13:44] <codemaniac> var="this is a sample var";echo $var | cut -d " " -f2
[13:44] <magnus__> hi guys
[13:44] <[-]ell> hi LucidDreamZzZ
[13:44] <[-]ell> LucidDreamZzZ (~dreamz@gateway/tor-sasl/xkmeqpz how u using tor ?
[13:45] <ThinkT510> !tor | [-]ell
[13:45] <VlanZ> codemaniac: worked great, thank you!
[13:46] <[-]ell> codemaniac will u give me information regarding how to use tor in irc ?
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !tor-sasl | [-]ell
[13:46] <lolicon> is there any body using foxyproxy in firefox? i update my firefox to ver15 and foxyproxy doesn't work anymore
[13:46] <codemaniac> [-]ell: i and using sasl ,but not tor
[13:46] <bekks> lolicon: It works fine for me.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> [-]ell  in a terminal, type apt-cache show to
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> [-]ell  in a terminal, type apt-cache show tor
[13:47] <lolicon> bekks: which version of firefox are you using?
[13:47] <codemaniac> you can find some guided to set up tor-sasl for your client on the internet
[13:47] <codemaniac> guide*
[13:47] <[-]ell> ohh thanks MonkeyDust !!!
[13:47] <[-]ell> let me try now
[13:48] <lolicon> bekks: when i choose proxy, foxyproxy says: Unrecognized mode specified
[13:48] <[-]ell> oh
[13:49] <[-]ell> lolicon how to update firefox ?
[13:50] <ThinkT510> [-]ell: firefox 15 is in the repos, just do a normal update
[13:51] <Zentaur> hello
[13:51] <lolicon> [-]ell: umm .. in fact i'm not a ubuntu user. i use gentoo and i install firefox from portage(something simular to software repo)
[13:51] <mrdeb> loli, is it good
[13:51] <bekks> lolicon: Well, foxyproxy works perfectly here. Have you tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it after restarting firefox?
[13:51] <Zentaur> does anybody know how to change the name of my computer shown with bluetooth?
[13:52] <[x]> oh my god
[13:52] <lolicon> bekks: i've tried to remove the entire ~/.mozilla folder ..
[13:52] <bekks> lolicon: Then stick to the gentoo support please. Ticket closed.
[13:52] <ThinkT510> Zentaur: you can do that in preferences (in blueman)
[13:52] <[x]> [-]ell already in use ?
[13:52] <llutz_> Zentaur: edit "Name=" in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[13:52] <Godric> hi
[13:52] <[x]> y this problem ?
[13:53] <[x]> how to i register particular nick for me ?
[13:53] <Zentaur> let me try firts with main.conf.
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !register | [x]
[13:53] <Zentaur> thanks a lot guys. You are great!
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> Zentaur  use blueman -- adapter - preferences - friendly name
[13:55] <Ascavasaion> I have an odd question perhaps.  I know that you can install ISOs onto a flashdrive/memorystick and boot from it.  Is it possible then to put say 3 or 4 onto the same flashdrive, and use something like Grub to boot all of them?  Then you would have three or four different OSes at your disposal whenever you troubleshoot etc.
[13:55] <hatori> ascavasion, yes, grub2 can boot iso directly
[13:55] <Ascavasaion> hatori: WOW, sounds niiiiice :)
[13:56] <excervo> hello guys, how can I download free mp3's with ubuntu?
[13:56] <hatori> ascavasion... Thats an old feature of grub
[13:56] <mr-woof> hi excervo, jamendo is very good for free music
[13:56] <bekks> excervo: By using the reuiqred tools, like a webbrowser, e.g.
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Ascavasaion  i used unetbootin to do that, but make sure you have enough space in /
[13:57] <excervo> bekks, thanks i'll try that
[13:57] <excervo> mr-woof, thanks also
[13:57] <Ascavasaion> MonkeyDust: Thyank you, I appreciate it.
[13:57] <mr-woof> no worries :-)
[14:03] <Godric> .
[14:04] <Ascavasaion> I know, not strictly a Ubuntu question, but I use Ubuntu/Lubuntu and I just read online at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/does-windows-7-home-premium-support-remote-desktop/0cb69a49-868b-47e0-a760-1a16567413bc that the baby Windows 7 distro does not have a remote desktop server.  How would I go about getting it onto that OS.  My in-laws live far away from me and I thought it would be a good
[14:04] <Ascavasaion> way to set up their machine so that I can log into it remotely and fix any problems for them.
[14:05] <[x]> hi
[14:05] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: get them to install teamviewer
[14:05] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting my sd memory card in my laptop. please help
[14:06] <[x]> i reg this nick ? while log in irc it is not asking for password ThinkT510
[14:06] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Cool, and then I can use Remmina on my Ubuntu and Lubuntu machines to access their computer which will be running Teamviewer?
[14:06] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: no, you'd need to use teamviewer too
[14:06] <[x]> ThinkT510, help me
[14:06] <lousygarua> I have a problem. I want to rip a CD to my computer and I use sound juicer. Once extracted it seems that some or all tracks have silence for a few seconds in the end and thus i can't play the songs gapless. I've tried the ppa version of gstreamer but it still played like this, and mplayer and vlc also have this 'problem' so I'm thinking the source is audio juicer
[14:07] <lifebird64> quick question: does anybody know of a console-based program that allows remote assistance / tutorial mode (but in console itself)? I'm afk. please send /msg lifebird64 if you know of anything.
[14:07] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Oh :(
[14:07] <ThinkT510> [x]: after you registered your nick then reopen your client and it should ask you to identify your nick
[14:07] <ThinkT510> [x]: more help in #freenode
[14:08] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Thank you... will look into that :)
[14:08] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: teamviewer works on windows, mac and linux (pity it isn't open source)
[14:08] <mrdeb> hi, how do u install ubuntu 1204 with only gnome 3 and no unity
[14:08] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: but it really is the easiest solution to set up
[14:09] <mrdeb> ??
[14:09] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Good... simple is good, especially with my in-laws in the fray hehehe
[14:09] <[x]> thanks ThinkT510 !!!
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Ascavasaion  i tried both reminna and teamviewer, they're nice, but only teamviewer is cross-platform
[14:09] <Ascavasaion> mrdeb: Choose Ubuntu Classic on the bootup screen... that is what I did.
[14:09] <msp301> mrdeb: I install Ubuntu from alternate CD, install command-line only system and then connect to wired network and install gnome from there
[14:09] <IboS> hello
[14:09] <Ascavasaion> MonkeyDust: Awesome!  Thank you.
[14:10] <IboS> how to have ubuntu disk usage analyzer on windows xp ?
[14:10] <bekks> IboS: There is no way.
[14:10] <ThinkT510> IboS: you don't
[14:10] <IboS> what
[14:11] <[x]> how to istall ubuntu .iso file in wubi with out connecting to internet ?
[14:11] <mrdeb> msp, so install command, then aptget install gnome. is that it
[14:11] <IboS> you cannot have it for windows xp ??
[14:11] <[x]> i've iso file
[14:11] <IboS> it sucks
[14:11] <bekks> IboS: If you want to use Ubuntu software, use Ubuntu, not XP.
[14:11] <[x]> how to run this .iso file via wubi installer
[14:11] <mrdeb> why is vlc not in ubuntu. totem is bad
[14:11] <IboS> bekks: well i cannot use it it freezes on xp
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> IboS  in ubuntu, mount the xp partition, then use disk usage analyzer
[14:12] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: vlc is indeed available in the repos
[14:12] <bekks> IboS: Because it isnt designed to run on XP.
[14:13] <mrdeb> thinkt, i mean in install
[14:13] <mrdeb> i know it is in repo
[14:13] <msp301> mrdeb: yeah, from the alternate CD, change the mode to Command-line system only ... then install run apt-get install gnome ... that will get you a pure gnome system, when complete reboot and you'll be presented with gdm to login :) ... done
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> IboS  windows knows three systems only: windows windows and windows
[14:13] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: codecs forbid redistribution in the usa
[14:13] <IboS> ubuntu know only ubuntu
[14:13] <mr-woof> monkeydust :-)
[14:13] <IboS> i cannot run it on xp
[14:13] <IboS> i thought it was an open source system
[14:14] <ThinkT510> IboS: stop talking rubbish
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> IboS  yes, sio you can modify it, to make it run on windows
[14:14] <mrdeb> thinkt, other distros include it
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> so*
[14:14] <IboS> MonkeyDust: how ?
[14:14] <mrdeb> msp ok
[14:14] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: are they based in the usa?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> IboS  by learning the skills
[14:15] <IboS> what
[14:15] <IboS> i need to learn something to get a software to run Oo
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> IboS  to do what you want, yes, nobody else tried
[14:16] <bekks> IboS: First, you need to understand that you cant simply run a software designed for OS I. on OS II.
[14:16] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:16] <mrdeb> think i dont konw but ubuntu is not usa
[14:16] <cire> How may I change grub2 menu to get shown at bootup?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> IboS  linux code is different from windows code, that's why
[14:16] <Tetracomm> What is the easiest way to change the boot menu order for Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:17] <mrdeb> so u are saying usa is less free. is that it
[14:17] <IboS> what os are crypted ?
[14:17] <Maverick> phone
[14:17] <ThinkT510> !ot | mrdeb
[14:17] <bekks> IboS: There are none that are crypted by default.
[14:17] <mrdeb> well u said it
[14:17] <bekks> IboS: Do you have a specific Ubuntu-related support question?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> IboS  it seems you've come to the wrong place
[14:18] <IboS> i wanted to know wether there is an windows xp version of ubuntu disk usage analyzer
[14:18] <ThinkT510> IboS: we already told you there isn't
[14:18] <mrdeb> no
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> IboS  so now you know: no
[14:18] <mr-woof> lol
[14:19] <IboS> where can we discuss about why it is no and how to change that ?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> IboS  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <mrdeb> can u install newest google chrome on ubuntu 804
[14:20] <mrdeb> ??
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> IboS, Just install WUBI, and run disk usage analyzer, from there.
[14:20] <bekks> Sidewinder1: Which will not help him at all.
[14:20] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: 8.04 is only supported on the server
[14:21] <msp301> mrdeb: Chrome dropped support for 8.04 from version 13
[14:21] <mrdeb> why do u need analyzer
[14:21] <mrdeb> it is a toy
[14:21] <mrdeb> ok msp301
[14:21] <IboS> okay i'll search what wubi is and install it thanks Sidewinder1
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> bekks, Thanks.
[14:21] <mrdeb> but y, i mean it is the same ubunut, only with older programs
[14:21] <mrdeb> ubuntu 804 or 1204
[14:22] <g_> Hi. I Installed 12.04 64bit on a Vaio laptop using WUBI. I used a partition on my drive (I put 25GB for Ubuntu). When I do operations such as install, updates, and so on, I have perf problems: mount.ntfs spikes to 99% CPU and the system becomes unresponsive...  Can I solve this or do I just format everything and install Ubuntu on a separate machine?
[14:22] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: there is no desktop support for 8.04
[14:22] <ThinkT510> !8.04 | mrdeb
[14:23] <mr-woof> it's time for an upgrade mrdeb
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> g_  if you want all the latest updates etc, do'nt use wubi
[14:23] <cahyo> !upgrade
[14:23] <mrdeb> no i dont use 804
[14:23] <mrdeb> i am asking hypo qs
[14:23] <g_> MonkeyDust: I already installed all updates via the console...
[14:24] <ThinkT510> mrdeb: did you see the answer?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> mrdeb, why hypothetical ?
[14:24] <szal> mrdeb: (1) it's "8.04", not "804"; (2) 8.04 will be dead in half a year anyway
[14:24] <msp301> mrdeb: security issues arise in software, maintainers will only keep vulnerabilities patched for their supported software .. does that answer your question?
[14:24] <szal> so not much of a use asking hypothetical questions about it
[14:24] <g_> anyone about the mount.ntfs thingie?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> g_  i guess it won't work in wubi
[14:25] <mneptok> g_: a wubi install is meant as a stop-gap to allow people to try Linux. it's not meant as a permanent solution, install Ubuntu to a separate drive or partition,
[14:25] <g_> MonkeyDust: what do you mean, that's what they suggest in ubuntu main website..
[14:26] <mrdeb> msp301: but if u dont care about security so it should work
[14:26] <g_> mneptok: aha I see.. So just promo crap to make people install Ubuntu once and drop it a week after
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> g_  yes, but not in wubi
[14:26] <g_> mneptok: if it doesnt work why is it still in the distro?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> wubi is for testing ubuntu , it's not a good choice if you intend to use linux extensively, g_
[14:27] <mneptok> g_: for the same reasons you can take a car for a test drive, but the cops show up if you drive it home.
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> g_  wubi is a pseudo-installation inside windows
[14:27] <g_> They should say that clear in the website with the fancy buttons and the fancy printsreens guys.. come on.
[14:27] <g_> THat's no way to attract users.
[14:28] <g_> It is shown as an equal alternative
[14:28] <mneptok> g_: Ubuntu is an OS, not a Windows app, if you install it like an OS, it behaves as expected. if you install it as a Windows app, performance is not as dependable,
[14:28] <g_> mneptok: from what I saw while installing it it seemed to me there was a new partition created..
[14:28] <BluesKaj> g_, definitely not an alternative
[14:28] <msp301> mrdeb: software also has dependencies, maybe a feature that is used in a library is only available in that libary from a specific version, so Chrome in this case wouldn't be able to access its required feature from this library to run ... if its not available in 8.04, Chrome won't be able to run properly
[14:28] <g_> But how do we know the mount.ntfs problem is due to that fact?
[14:29] <mrdeb> msp301: but u download it from website, so there is no dep
[14:29] <g_> Wouldn't like to slice the HDD then discovering nothing changed..
[14:29] <mneptok> g_: because in a pure Linux install, the NTFS driver wouldn't even be invoked during an upgrade
[14:29] <g_> do you have any information about that?
[14:29] <OerHeks> g_, the problem is wubi. install side-by-side.
[14:29] <g_> ok
[14:29] <g_> Thanks.
[14:30] <g_> In that case would a partition be enough or should I install on different disk (maybe external) (as I have a laptop)
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> g_  i once asked to add something to the website and they did, maybe you can do it too
[14:30] <mneptok> g_: another partition is fine.
[14:31] <g_> mneptok: thanks. Last question; I am not really planning to do desktop use; I only want to setup LAMP and then varnish / drupal and stuff to experiment
[14:31] <msp301> mrdeb: oh, but there are :) ... Chrome uses GTK (I think) to show its graphical window and controls, to ship that with the Chrome application would be massive, so it would rely on you having GTK installed before it can be, make sense?
[14:31] <g_> Should I get Ubuntu or would you suggest something else?
[14:31] <szal> g_: unless you leave the swap out, you need at least 2 partitions
[14:31] <Maverick> iphone irc channel
[14:31] <szal> Maverick: is that a question?
[14:31] <ThinkT510> !alis | Maverick
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Maverick  type /join ##iphone
[14:32] <Kroach> how can I disable brightness notifications?
[14:32] <g_> mneptok: thanks. Last question; I am not really planning to do desktop use; I only want to setup LAMP and then varnish / drupal and stuff to experiment.. Should I use Ubuntu or another distribution?
[14:33] <msp301> mrdeb: Google's site shows Chrome/Chromuim's deps here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructionsPrerequisites
[14:34] <ThinkT510> g_: sounds like you want a server instead
[14:34] <mrdeb> msp301: ok thank you, bye
[14:35] <msp301> I think I scared mrdeb off lol :)
[14:35] <carby> ciao
[14:35] <carby> !list
[14:35] <under> Hi. I just installed ubuntu on my netbook but I have an issue. When I lower the screen, the netbook doesnt go in standby
[14:35] <excervo> hello guys where can I download ubuntu server with no gui?
[14:36] <AddisonE> I set the udev logging priority to debug, and rebooted my server. Where does udev log too?
[14:36] <szal> excervo: download the alternate CD & install minimal w/o GUI
[14:36] <ThinkT510> excervo: not sure what you mean, the normal server iso doesn't come with a gui
[14:36] <under> excervo: just download ubuntu server and during installation dont select any desktop enviroment
[14:36] <Kroach> under: see "Power" in System Settings
[14:36] <puppy_parade> after a while, I cannot maximize totem. it get's all pixelated above a certain size, and goes black maximized. The sound keeps playing.
[14:36] <excervo> ok thanks guys
[14:36] <fir_ed> Hey, apt-get dist-upgrade is showing that it will hold bakc packages
[14:37] <fir_ed> what does that mean?
[14:37] <szal> since when is apt-get dist-upgrade supported?
[14:38] <Jacruth> ey guys, how could I stop the gnome display manager?
[14:38] <trism> !dist-upgrade | szal
[14:38] <vibhav> fir_ed: It means that the held back packages would not get updated
[14:38] <Calinou> Jacruth: mind googling?
[14:38] <Jacruth> I tried to do "sudo service gdm stop"
[14:38] <Jacruth> (what I googled for)
[14:38] <Jacruth> and It says there is no gdm service
[14:38] <fir_ed> How do I force the upgrade, vibhav? Just apt-get install those?
[14:39] <Jacruth> there seems to  be only one service starting with "g" and it's not desktop related
[14:40] <ThinkT510> Jacruth: its lightdm
[14:40] <vibhav> fir_ed: Sorry, I dont know how to do that
[14:40] <Jacruth> thanks ThinkT510
[14:40] <Jacruth> thanks Calinou
[14:41] <under> thanks
[14:44] <AddisonE> What are the chances that udev isn't running upon startup? Or at least it isn't setting the permissions of dev/null correctly.
[14:48] <NostradamusXXL> ikonia, your boyfriend told me i was going to find you here. Will you come to our party later? BRAD will be there, if you get what i mean girl.
[14:48] <NostradamusXXL> ikonia, your boyfriend told me i was going to find you here. Will you come to our party later? BRAD will be there, if you get what i mean girl.
[14:48] <NostradamusXXL> ikonia, go suck a cock
[14:52] <Calinou> lol'd
[14:53] <javier_> hullo
[14:54] <michielbrink>  who like to test my script? whit that script you can send text to my led display :)
[14:55] <javier_> help me
[14:55] <michielbrink>  who like to test my script? whit that script you can send text to my led display :)
[14:55] <javier_> cinerella doesn't work
[14:55] <javier_> no thanks
[14:55] <javier_> Test my dick
[14:56] <Iceman_B> can Ubuntu boot from an extended partition?
[14:56] <bekks> Sure.
[14:56] <zykotick9> Iceman_B: yes, grub doesn't care.
[14:56] <Iceman_B> good
[14:56] <Myrtti> javier_: behave
[14:58] <actionParsnip> Iceman_B: it makes no difference in any OS
[14:59] <actionParsnip> Iceman_B: it will be a logical partition within the extended partition too :)
[15:00] <superfake123> when I turn the 'auto hide launcher' I can't get it to reveal ???
[15:01] <actionParsnip> superfake123: I noticed that, if you press SuperL it wil show as well as dash
[15:01] <superfake123> yeah that works
[15:01] <superfake123> I guess that will have to do for now D:
[15:02] <actionParsnip> superfake123: i disable the hide feature, just make the bar smaller
[15:02] <asher^> anyone know how i can get the openoffice.org-headless package on 11.10? it doesnt seem to be in the repository
[15:03] <actionParsnip> !info openoffice.org-headless
[15:03] <ThinkT510> asher^: its libreoffice now
[15:03] <asher^> ThinkT510 is that just a name change, or different software?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> asher^  if you want it, you'll have to upgrade your ubuntu
[15:04] <ThinkT510> asher^: its a fork, so different code base
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> asher^  nvm, irt doesnt exist in precise either, i was too fast
[15:04] <asher^> i need it to use with other software. is there a way i can get it?
[15:06] <actionParsnip> asher^: let me search
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> asher^  it says here: "You need to install the openoffice.org package as well as the openoffice.org-headless and openoffice.org-java-common . This one caught me for a while too." java-common is in the repos
[15:07] <PapaSierra> i don't understand the implication of choosing libcurl4-gnutls-dev over libcurl4-openssl-dev, any ideas?
[15:07] <actionParsnip> asher^: seems it is an option on oofice
[15:07] <asher^> actionParsnip sorry, what does that mean?
[15:07] <actionParsnip> asher^: http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/setup_guide2/1.1.x/en/SETUP_GUIDE.html    or is it something else?
[15:08] <expert> ehem
[15:08] <gordonjcp> PapaSierra: why has this question arisen?
[15:08] <asher^> actionParsnip that looks like some really old version
[15:08] <PapaSierra> gordonjcp simply because i'm installing pecl_http and it requires curl.h which is available in either of those two. so it's a straight choice between them?
[15:08] <actionParsnip> asher^: try:  ooffice -headless
[15:09] <actionParsnip> asher^: https://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/OpenOfficeConverter
[15:10] <asher^> actionParsnip that just tells me to install the packages i already cant
[15:12] <lousygarua> What is a good CD ripping application? I tried soundjuicer but it seems to add silence to the end of the tracks (I checked the first and second tracks for "gaplessness" on several applications and each of them had the same silence)
[15:12] <actionParsnip> asher^: you could ask in the openoffice channel too
[15:12] <PapaSierra> gordonjcp any follow up? thanks
[15:13] <asher^> ty
[15:13] <Respite212> Hi everyone, can someone tell me how to get my sdb drive working?
[15:13] <actionParsnip> !info asunder
[15:13] <zykotick9> !info abcde
[15:15] <trotro> hi, i just install last ubuntu, and i don't find the option for starting my .xsession
[15:15] <trotro> how can i force it ?
[15:15] <sambagirl> how do you turn on sharing for hdd for linux to linux?
[15:16] <sambagirl> or just sharing on in general
[15:16] <sambagirl> i found it thanks
[15:16] <Respite212> I have 2 drives sda, and sdb, my root, home, swap are on sda, and sdb have a single large partition, but everytime I install something, it always ends up in sda, how do I get ubuntu to use sdb drive?
[15:19] <bekks> Respite212: By choosing sdb as installation target.
[15:19] <actionParsnip> Respite212: use the 'something else' option and you can setup the partitioning on any drive you desire
[15:19] <Respite212> wait, can I have a /home on sda AND sdb drive?
[15:20] <actionParsnip> trotro: the default desktop OS will automatically start the X session
[15:20] <bekks> Respite212: What do you mean?
[15:20] <actionParsnip> Respite212: you can have some folders in yourhome folder mount to the other drive's partition
[15:21] <actionParsnip> s
[15:21] <Respite212> actionParsnip: How do I do that?
[15:22] <Respite212> and how do I direct what I install to install in sdb?
[15:22] <PapaSierra> sorry to repeat myself but i didn't get an answer. does anyone have an opinion?
[15:22] <PapaSierra> i don't understand the implication of choosing libcurl4-gnutls-dev over libcurl4-openssl-dev, any ideas? the only reason i need it is because i'm trying to build pecl_http and aparently curl.h is a requirement
[15:22] <actionParsnip> Respite212: or you can use LVM to amalgamate the storages together and mount that as home
[15:22] <Respite212> LVM?
[15:22] <actionParsnip> Respite212: yes, lvm
[15:22] <trotro> actionParsnip, no
[15:23] <Respite212> actionParsnip: What's LVM?
[15:23] <actionParsnip> Respite212: why not find out....
[15:24] <actionParsnip> trotro: no what?
[15:26] <gabrieluk> what is the best way to install java on my desktop? it seems java likes more rpm based distros x.x
[15:26] <actionParsnip> gabrieluk: there is no single best way
[15:26] <gabrieluk> the easiest so
[15:26] <gabrieluk> i mean, with ppa is better
[15:27] <actionParsnip> gabrieluk: here is how I do it http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[15:27] <gabrieluk> there;s ppa?
[15:27] <yeats> !java | gabrieluk
[15:28] <gnagno> hello all
[15:28] <Respite212> Would I need to reformat everything on my disks in order to use LVM?
[15:28] <rymate1234> hey
[15:29] <tomaz> hello
[15:29] <rymate1234> trying to switch from linux mint to ubuntu
[15:29] <rymate1234> wat package to install to change system wide branding?
[15:29] <actionParsnip> rymate1234: should be easy enough
[15:29] <actionParsnip> Respite212: its not something I've used but I understand it can make a single filesystem from many
[15:30] <rymate1234> I found a tutorial to switch from ubuntu to mint
[15:30] <rymate1234> so I'm trying to do the reverse of that
[15:30] <xangua> rymate1234: fresh install
[15:30] <rymate1234> noooo
[15:30] <actionParsnip> rymate1234: just format the partitions with mint and install Ubuntu
[15:30] <trotro> actionParsnip, no default ubuntu ignore .xsession
[15:30] <actionParsnip> trotro: I see
 trotro: the default desktop OS will automatically start the X session >> i said no to that
[15:31] <gnagno> I bought a usb to ethernet adapter with lsusb I can see it as "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0fe6:9700 Kontron (Industrial Computer Source / ICS Advent) DM9601 Fast Ethernet Adapter" but I can't see it if I make ifconfig, can someone help me please?
[15:32] <actionParsnip> trotro: ask in $HOME/.xsession ?
[15:33] <actionParsnip> gnagno: use the 8 character hex ID, you may find guides
[15:34] <rymate1234> woo
[15:34] <rymate1234> my system is now
[15:34] <rymate1234> UBUNTU
[15:34] <rymate1234> brb rebooting
[15:34] <sambagirl> hey action how do you access another ubuntu hdd on a network? do you have to turn on sharing for both? i can't see either one on the same network? i can see windows drives and server drives but not laptops that are right next to each other :D
[15:34] <FloodBot1> rymate1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <sambagirl> i didnt flood you ignorat bot\
[15:35] <rymate1234> sambagirl, he was talking to me
[15:35] <rymate1234> lol
[15:35] <sambagirl> ohh sorry
[15:35] <sambagirl> :D
[15:35] <gnagno> thanks actionParsnip :)
[15:36] <SDR-GUY> help
[15:36] <actionParsnip> sambagirl: if you install openssh-server you can access SSHFS over the network
[15:36] <sambagirl> ooh ok
[15:36] <SDR-GUY> after updates my unbuntu wont boot
[15:37] <SDR-GUY> i can only get into recovery counsole
[15:37] <sambagirl> you are just brilliant
[15:37] <trotro> actionParsnip, what ?
[15:37] <SDR-GUY> my unbuntu wont boot
[15:38] <SDR-GUY> broke after updates
[15:38] <sambagirl> btw  i was on a lenovo webinar since i used to work with ibm and support lenovo stuff, all they are pushing like they did in the past as all mfg did windows 8 period. i think microsoft needs to be broken up like att was
[15:38] <SDR-GUY> no way MS rocks.. windows 7 is so stable
[15:38] <bekks> !ot | SDR-GUY
[15:38] <bazhang> !ot | sambagirl SDR-GUY
[15:38] <sambagirl> yeah but this is a world of choices not having stuff pushed down your throat
[15:39] <bazhang> sambagirl, stop it
[15:39] <sambagirl> i can speak my mind if i want to this is still a free internet
[15:39] <SDR-GUY> ubottu i have been asking for help
[15:39] <bazhang> sambagirl, not here you cannot
[15:39] <SDR-GUY> ubottu will you marry me
[15:39] <sambagirl> Well i will take it up with the The big boss cause i know who he is!
[15:39] <sambagirl> i was just making a point
[15:40] <SDR-GUY> my unbuntu is broken
[15:40] <OerHeks>  /ignore sambagirl
[15:40] <SDR-GUY> can anyone help
[15:40] <bazhang> sambagirl, make it in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[15:40] <sambagirl>  /ignorant oerheks
[15:40] <bekks> !ask | SDR-GUY
[15:41] <sambagirl> my concerns are that i dont think that ubuntu is going to work on these new lenovo systems.
[15:41] <bekks> What was this ubottu trigger telling about how to ask a question (details and stuff...)?
[15:41] <Respite212> Anyone know how to mount a part of /home folders to another partition on another drive?
[15:41] <SDR-GUY> my unbuntu wont boot, installed updates, reboot is grub then black screen, lots of Hard Drive but nothing more than black screen
[15:41] <Matthias45> hi there I have a problem with a external hard drive seagate free agent goflex 1TB. I plug it in and it isn't even recognized. Can anyone help?
[15:41] <SDR-GUY> can get into recovery consol but no clue what to do there
[15:41] <bekks> Respite212: You cant split your home folder
[15:41] <bazhang> bekks, !details
[15:41] <SxDx> Respite212 mkdir / ln -s
[15:41] <bekks> bazhang: ah, thanks
[15:42] <sambagirl> SDR-guy cant you choose an earlier build from grub?
[15:42] <SDR-GUY> none of them boot
[15:42] <SDR-GUY> i cant do any commands like sudo
[15:42] <Respite212> SxDx: Huh?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> SDR-GUY, choose repair broken packages in the dialog , that usually works
[15:43] <SDR-GUY> there is no dialog
[15:43] <SDR-GUY> i used shift key
[15:43] <SDR-GUY> but not getting thast
[15:43] <SxDx> Respite212 use mkdir in dest directory and then ln -s somewhere in your /home to that directory
[15:43] <bekks> SxDx: Which wont help him.
[15:43] <SDR-GUY> how do i shut off the join notices
[15:43] <yeats> Respite212: you're wanting to move your /home to another partition, yes?
[15:43] <bekks> SxDx: ln does NOT split a home directory or transfer the contents to another drive.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> SDR-GUY, have chosen the recovery kernel yet ?
[15:44] <Respite212> yeats: no, I want to move a part of my home folders to another disk
[15:44] <SDR-GUY> i can open recovery consule
[15:44] <rymate1234> so
[15:44] <rymate1234> guys
[15:44] <SDR-GUY> how can i stop the irc join notices
[15:44] <yeats> Respite212: so a directory within /home/yourusername then?
[15:44] <rymate1234> how to remove linux mint branding
[15:44] <Respite212> yeats: For example I want to move /home/games to another partition on a second disk.
[15:44] <actionParsnip> SDR-GUY: which client?
[15:44] <SDR-GUY> web
[15:44] <bekks> Respite212: Thats not an ubuntu issue.
[15:44] <actionParsnip> rymate1234: ask in the mint channel
[15:44] <SDR-GUY> freenode
[15:45] <actionParsnip> SDR-GUY: in the options button, you can stop them there, you can also change the colour of the interface
[15:45] <Respite212> bekks: How is it not a ubuntu issue? Im using the Ubuntu OS as well as Ubuntu terminal!
[15:45] <SxDx> Respite212, so mv /home/games /another/disk then ln -s /another/disk/games /home/games
[15:45] <bekks> Respite212: You are using Mint, since you have a Mint branding.
[15:45] <bekks> Respite212: And thats no Ubuntu.
[15:45] <SDR-GUY> thanks
[15:46] <chris92> bekks: wut... the mint branding guy is rymate1234
[15:46] <Respite212> bekks: what is Mint?
[15:46] <SDR-GUY> ok so I can get the recovery consiole
[15:46] <rymate1234> yes
[15:46] <yeats> bekks: I think you meant to direct that to rymate1234
[15:46] <bekks> Respite212: Sorry - I was mixing up your nick with rymate1234
[15:46] <rymate1234> I can understand who he meant yeats without having my name pinged in it
[15:46] <bekks> yeats: correct.
[15:46] <dagerik> i ssh to remote box running ubuntu and i forward X. now gedit works fine, but notify-send test does not create notification locally. but running notify-send locally from terminal created notification. i am using xfce4-notifyd. help?
[15:46] <rymate1234> lol
[15:46] <sambagirl> actionparsnip since i installed ssh-server i can't access the windows network systems at all. is that normal?
[15:46] <rymate1234> ok
[15:47] <rymate1234> found the mint packages
[15:47] <rymate1234> brb removing
[15:47] <SDR-GUY> how come i cant get the fix packages dialog?
[15:47] <Respite212> SxDx: how do I direct the mount to another disk? the other disk is partitioned but does not have a /mount yet?
[15:47] <yeats> Respite212: I would 1) create a directory on the other partition and move my files there 2) change the name of my current "games" directory and mkdir a new games directory 3) 'mount /path/to/dir/on/other/partition /home/myusername/games'
[15:47] <actionParsnip> sambagirl: it shouldn't cause any issue, its a totally different protocol on a completely different port
[15:47] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[15:48] <yeats> Respite212: if that works, you just add a line in /etc/fstab that will automatically mount that partition at that location on bootup
[15:48] <lousygarua> actionParsnip, I'm trying asunder, but it doesn't find the CD! I inserted it, I can view wav files on the CD but asunder doesn't see it. Is it supposed to be with wav files? It'a a purchased CD, not one I've burned
[15:48] <yeats> Respite212: then once you're satisfied, you could optionally remove "games.old"
[15:48] <SDR-GUY> when i select any version to boot all i get is a black screen
[15:48] <SxDx> Respite212, your 2nd disk must have a file system (ext4 or whatever)
[15:49] <angs> is it possible to install .rpm file on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:49] <Respite212> SxDx: It does ext4.
[15:49] <bazhang> angs what package
[15:49] <Respite212> do I work with Gparted?
[15:49] <yeats> angs: technically possible? probably - but not recommended at all
[15:49] <lousygarua> angs, I think a tool called 'alien' can donvert .rpms to .debs
[15:49] <SDR-GUY> i cant get my unbuntu to boot
[15:49] <yeats> !rpm
[15:49] <SDR-GUY> i have lost all my work
[15:50] <lousygarua> SDR-GUY, first of all, you can run a livecd/usb and backup your data
[15:50] <SxDx> Respite212, then you can mount that disk somewhere and copy files
[15:50] <SDR-GUY> all the work was in setting it up to run my programs
[15:50] <bazhang> angs better to avoid it altogether; what package
[15:50] <Myrtti> angs: what are you planning to install from rpm?
[15:50] <Nsmurf> Has anyone hsed the Gensi EFIKA MX Smartbook before?
[15:50] <angs> lousygaura, I tried alien but it did not work for me. bazhang & yeats: I am trying to install a driver for a usb oscilloscope device which is in .rpm format
[15:50] <keyminor> which tool can i use to antispoof?
[15:50] <SxDx> Respite212, and then use the "ln -s" thing or go with the "mount" thing. If you go the "ln -s" thing you must mount the 2nd disk too
[15:50] <SDR-GUY> i spent a million hours with all these packages and dependances.. its a real nightmare platform
[15:51] <bazhang> keyminor, what does that even mean
[15:51] <lousygarua> actionParsnip, nevermind! figured it out. The device on my laptop is /dev/sr0 instead of what was preconfigured in asunder /dev/cdrom
[15:51] <SDR-GUY> it took me five days to instllall everything i needed to run some radio software
[15:51] <SDR-GUY> now it wont boot
[15:51] <bazhang> !repeat | SDR-GUY
[15:51] <Respite212> SxDx: Sorry I am still new to linux in general.
[15:52] <sambagirl> here is a very imporant question. i am running a few servers with 10.10 on them. i should have used 10.04 however that is irrelevant at this point. what can i do to retain the integrity of the 10.10 servers? do an update? or do i have to start from scratch with a new LTS server? i'm miffed on what to do at this point?
[15:52] <Respite212> SxDx: Any links to tell me how to do the In -s thing or the mount thing?
[15:52] <sambagirl> i mean t upgrade
[15:52] <SxDx> Respite212, don't be sorry, there is no problem
[15:52] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | sambagirl
[15:52] <bekks> sambagirl: Update to a supported release.
[15:52] <sambagirl> upgrade or update?
[15:53] <bazhang> sambagirl, read the eolupgrades link above
[15:53] <sambagirl> thet thing that scares me bekks is that some of the services (apps) won't function in a new environment?
[15:53] <sambagirl> ok
[15:54] <SxDx> Respite212, let's say your 2nd disk is /dev/sdb1, you have to do "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /some/directory" (let's say '/some/directory' is '/mnt'). Then you do 'sudo mkdir /mnt/games'
[15:54] <AlanBell> sambagirl: the only way is forward though, attempting to go back to 10.04 is not supported and more likely to break things than going forward would
[15:54] <SDR-GUY> i wish i could get fedora running
[15:55] <sambagirl> alanbell i know
[15:55] <sambagirl> alanbell i agree i have to go forward cause i am concerned about security issues.
[15:56] <SxDx> Respite212, then you may want to do "sudo chown user /mnt/games" where 'user' is your login name. Then you can do for example "cp -a /home/games/* /mnt/games"
[15:56] <Respite212> SxDx: Can that be "sudo mount /dev/sdb1/home/games?
[15:56] <_XMENDES> i have a executable game on cd (for win) .. how i install on wine ? (need cd to start)
[15:56] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: what version of Ubuntu, and what was going on before it stopped booting?
[15:57] <SDR-GUY> the latest
[15:57] <SDR-GUY> 12 lts
[15:57] <SxDx> Respite212, yes it could, but you must copy the files first
[15:57] <[x]> ThinkT510, ?
[15:57] <SDR-GUY> when i boot i get black screen after selecting unbuto
[15:58] <SxDx> Respite212, so you must mount it somewhere else and copy from /home/games
[15:58] <SDR-GUY> the hard drive has activity
[15:58] <Respite212> SxDx: Well I currently have no games on /home/games yet.
[15:58] <Respite212> or even a /home/game directory
[15:58] <[x]> guys
[15:58] <SDR-GUY> i tried a previous load from the shift menu biut got a debian screen all night
[15:58] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: ok, after giving it a minute can you press ctrl+alt+F1 and do you get a console when you do that?
[15:58] <[x]> atlast landed safely
[15:58] <SDR-GUY> no
[15:58] <SDR-GUY> nothing
[15:59] <SDR-GUY> all i can get is that recovery consol
[15:59] <_XMENDES> i have a executable game on cd (for win) .. how i install on wine ? (need cd to start)
[15:59] <Respite212> SxDx: I wanted to create a new directory where all my games would be installed but on to the sdb1 partition.
[15:59] <SxDx> Respite212, so do "mount /dev/sdb1 /home/games" and you are done
[15:59] <rymate1234> yay
[15:59] <rymate1234> I am now running UBUNTU
[16:00] <[x]> how to join a channel thorugh command ?
[16:00] <SDR-GUY> unbuntu seems so unstable.
[16:00] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: what kind of graphics card do you have? do you think it is actually booting but not displaying the screen?
[16:00] <chris92> [x]: use /join #CHANNEL
[16:00] <SDR-GUY> nvida
[16:01] <_XMENDES> i have a executable game on cd (for win) .. how i install on wine ? (need cd to start)
[16:01] <SDR-GUY> 8800 gts
[16:01] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: can you for example ping it from another computer?
[16:01] <Respite212> SxDx: Mount point does not exists?
[16:01] <SDR-GUY> all i get is the recovery consil
[16:01] <bazhang> _XMENDES, go to the installer, right click open with wine
[16:01] <SxDx> Respite212, yes the directory /home/games must exist to mount there
[16:01] <SDR-GUY> and it crashes with the message kernal panic
[16:01] <AlanBell> _XMENDES: have you looked up the game in the winehq apps database?
[16:02] <_XMENDES> bazhang, dont works.. cd is secure . need of cd to install
[16:02] <Respite212> SxDx: How do I create that directory in sdb1
[16:02] <_XMENDES> Im gonna try with isomount
[16:02] <_XMENDES> dont have this on winehq
[16:02] <chris92> Respite212: you have to create the /home/games first, before you can mount anything there
[16:02] <_XMENDES> i looked
[16:03] <SxDx> Respite212, what do you mean? You don't. You create it on the 1st disk. The 2nd disk will be mounted there.
[16:03] <bazhang> _XMENDES, if you dont have the cd, then what did you expect
[16:03] <AlanBell> _XMENDES: might help if you say what the game is (I won't know, I don't play games, but someone might)
[16:03] <Respite212> SxDx: Ohhhh.. you mount the disk to the directory...
[16:03] <[x]> thanks chris92
[16:03] <chris92> Respite212: exactly
[16:03] <chris92> [x]: you're welcome
[16:04] <Respite212> Sorry Im still thinking still of windows where you mount the directory to the disk.
[16:04] <_XMENDES> i have the cd
[16:04] <[x]> Chris92 are you using tor ?
[16:04] <chris92> [x]: nope
[16:04] <_XMENDES> but i need show to wine were is cd to get securite file
[16:04] <SDR-GUY> frankly i want to give up on unbuntu, the only thing it has going for it is the windows insaller, i have had nothing but issues with it.. this is my fourth install
[16:05] <rymate1234> SDR-GUY, what's the issue?
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> it wont boot
[16:05] <bazhang> _XMENDES, if you have the cd, then go to the installer in the cd and right click it. some apps will NEVER run with wine
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> grub then black screen
[16:05] <Respite212> Hmm doesn't work
[16:05] <rymate1234> odd
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> i hold shift and can get recovery console
[16:05] <[x]> chris92, your ip looks :S not a normal 1
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> the old versions just a debian screen
[16:05] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: tell us more about this kernel panic? when does that happen?
[16:05] <xangua> SDR-GUY: the windows installer¿ you mean wubi¿¿
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> yes
[16:05] <SDR-GUY> wubi
[16:06] <Respite212> I just created a folder in /home called games, but when I sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/games it still says mount point doesn't exist.
[16:06] <SDR-GUY> if fedora had wubi
[16:06] <Ektaaz> try linux mint
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[16:06] <SDR-GUY> i think i tried a command
[16:06] <SDR-GUY> and it panic
[16:06] <chris92> [x]: well, its my host, but chitchat can be done in #ubuntu-offtopic, not in here :)
[16:06] <SDR-GUY> i cant fix packages from that screen?
[16:07] <Respite212> nvmind, figured it out. it's /home/username/games
[16:07] <SDR-GUY> this happened after the updates
[16:07] <[x]> oh i am at zero level in irc Chris92
[16:08] <_XMENDES> i need to make the cd files executable.. but how?
[16:08] <_XMENDES> changing chmod of /media?
[16:08] <[x]> chitchat a client like xchat ?
[16:08] <SDR-GUY> should i just delete the whole thing?
[16:08] <SDR-GUY> its my forth install
[16:08] <SDR-GUY> it doenst ever seem to work right
[16:09] <SDR-GUY> the SDR guys tell me its a fubar platform anyway
[16:09] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: maybe try in a virtual machine rather than wubi (or on real hardware)
[16:09] <SDR-GUY> whats wrong with my hardware?
[16:09] <AlanBell> ooh, you are doing software defined radio, err, on real hardware then
[16:10] <SDR-GUY> quadcore
[16:10] <chris92> [x]: chitchat is just another word for small talk :P this is a support channel, whereas the offtopic channel is there to chat with each other
[16:10] <Respite212> Question: What is with the Lost+Found folder that is was just added to my /home/username/games folder?
[16:10] <AlanBell> nothing wrong with the hardware you have, I meant on a real partition rather than in a windows file
[16:10] <SDR-GUY> i tried that
[16:10] <SDR-GUY> but i have several hd
[16:10] <SDR-GUY> and the boot loader will never boot linux
[16:10] <chris92> Respite212: Lost+Found is basically your trash folder
[16:10] <Sonderblade> anyone using the infinality freetype patches?
[16:10] <SDR-GUY> i tried easy bcd also and nothing
[16:11] <[x]> ohh
[16:11] <Respite212> Chris92, can I just delete it?
[16:11] <SDR-GUY> if you can give me a hint on that
[16:11] <SDR-GUY> i would just install in a partition
[16:11] <chris92> Respite212: it will come back ^^
[16:12] <Respite212> chris92: lol, Thanks
[16:12] <AlanBell> SDR-GUY: I had never heard of easy bcd before, normally just booting from the live CD and doing an install just works, the Grub2 bootloader will let you switch between Ubuntu and other operating systems
[16:12] <[x]> chris92, is you in the channel offtopic you mean :| ?
[16:13] <SDR-GUY> it wont when you have it installed on a different hd than windows boot
[16:13] <Respite212> Question: Now that I have a /home/username/games folder, how do I direct games to be installed on that folder? This includes any WINE/PlayonLinux virtual worlds things?
[16:13] <AlanBell> the only complication where wubi helps is if the manufacturer has been obnoxious and used 4 primary partitions and not created extended partitions
[16:13] <chris92> Respite212: its like the recycle.bin under windows. every hard drive has its own recycle.bin folder, in ubuntu its either .trash-1000 or lost+found
[16:13] <[x]> i joined the channel offtopic :D lol
[16:13] <chris92> [x]: now I am
[16:13] <Respite212> chris92: Ah Thanks.
[16:13] <DarkStar1> hello has anyone here installed courier on 12.04
[16:14] <DarkStar1> courier mail server that is
[16:14] <[x]> ok
[16:14] <chris92> Respite212: wine/playonlinux have their own folders, normally /home/username/.wine
[16:15] <[x]> join #offtopic connecting me to channel ##unavailable :S
[16:15] <chris92> Respite212: you could do some symbolic links to trick it tho
[16:15] <chris92> [x]: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <[x]> Cannot join #offtopic (Channel is invite only).
[16:16] <nigweth> lol weird
[16:16] <[x]> oh ok thnx chris92
[16:16] <[x]> join ubuntu-offtopic
[16:16] <[x]> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:16] <SDR-GUY> if i can configure the boot loader i would install on a partition
[16:16] <chris92> [x]: execute it as a command... "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[16:17] <[x]> ok :| i thot / not necessary
[16:17] <rymate1234> guys
[16:17] <rymate1234> how to maek grub recognise m system is ubuntu
[16:17] <rymate1234> not linux mint
[16:18] <gyre007> is there any way guys how I can creat a Ubuntu boot disk on my USB disk without wiping out any data from it ?
[16:18] <DarkStar1> No one?
[16:18] <bazhang> rymate1234, ask mintsupport
[16:18] <bazhang> !mintsupport | rymate1234
[16:19] <SDR-GUY> thanks for the help guys..  I going to ditch unbuntu, way too unstable and buggy a platform.... fedora has done be right..
[16:19] <SDR-GUY> i will work on the boot loader.
[16:19] <rsser> I'm getting nervous. I read that if I use the command line "ls -d", I will have a list of directories, but it does not work. The command returns nothing.
[16:19] <chris92> rsser: where did you use the command?
[16:20] <rsser> On terminal, chris92
[16:20] <gyre007> rsser, it must return at least "." ie dot which is local directory
[16:20] <folorn> hmm
[16:20] <chris92> rsser: I meant in which directory in the terminal
[16:21] <gyre007> rsser, normally you run it against a directory and it lists that directory and not its contents..
[16:21] <rsser> I'm on /home/nano path, chris92
[16:21] <BenBE> I have a webcam which is working perfctly with Linux kernels below 3.5; but refuses to work with Linux 3.6rc4 and above. Using the kernels from the ubuntu kernel ppa.
[16:22] <`Nano_> :(
[16:22] <`Nano_> in my base killing my d00dz
[16:22] <rsser> damm ubuntu
[16:22] <steve234> why is the making of a driver so damn slow? (media_build_bst from dvbsky.net)
[16:22] <emcken> Im trying to connect to irc.gnome.org but for some reason it doesn't seem to be able to find any channels... anyone have an idea why?
[16:22] <rsser> the help is wrong
[16:23] <folorn> okay anyone know if there's a way to get an extra hardrive or increase it on a low end ancient labtop?
[16:23] <folorn> or somehow to add to the hdd space
[16:23] <gyre007> rsser, https://gist.github.com/3804505
[16:23] <gyre007> have a look there
[16:24] <rsser> okay, gyre007
[16:24] <rsser> it is serious, guys
[16:24] <rsser> ls -d should work properly
[16:24] <gyre007> rsser, it DOES :)
[16:25] <gyre007> read that gist
[16:25] <gyre007> maybe it could do with a slightly changed man pages as they can confuse people
[16:25] <steve234> or.. is it normal that a dvb driver install takes about 30-50minutes?
[16:26] <rsser> so, I'm on ubuntu for my native tongue. I think that can be a problem.
[16:26] <rsser> wrong translation
[16:27] <aura_> Can someone pls tell how do I put the horizontal line in here?
[16:27] <nigweth> __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ like this?
[16:27] <rsser> gyre007, shouldn't it have fork that?
[16:27] <aura_> Excatly!
[16:27] <vibhav> aura_: Which horizontal line?
[16:27] <rsser> to avoid that misunderstand
[16:27] <aura_> just like nigweth told
[16:28] <gyre007> shouldnt it what ?
[16:28] <chris92> aura_: shift + - (at least on my keyboard
[16:28] <nigweth> that's about IRC client settings isn't it?
[16:28] <aura_> -
[16:28] <BenBE> I have a webcam which is working perfctly with Linux kernels below 3.5; but refuses to work with Linux 3.6rc4 and above. Using the kernels from the ubuntu kernel ppa.
[16:28] <aura_> i guess so, but dont know the stuff! :(
[16:28] <steve234> so can someone answer me?
[16:29] <dagerik> steve234: are you referring to the time it takes to compile?
[16:29] <rsser> gyre007, There should be a fork to prevent this kind of translation error in manpages.
[16:29] <steve234> yes. this lines with CC [M]
[16:30] <dagerik> steve234: compiling may take 1 second or 1 hour depending how how big the project is
[16:30] <folorn> rocketfish cambs work nice with ubuntu
[16:30] <rsser> I'm sad there several erros on ls man page here on my native tongue
[16:30] <gyre007> rsser, there is no translation errors :)
[16:30] <[x]> !wifite
[16:31] <steve234> 6 Mb tar.gz
[16:31] <leaftwig> Hi.
[16:31] <gyre007> its just a bit confusing :)
[16:31] <[x]> !start
[16:31] <folorn> anyone got a old box they dont want in here?
[16:31] <steve234> its just TOO slow if its only one single dvb card driver...
[16:31] <bazhang> !ot | folorn
[16:31] <BenBE> Anybody here who could help with a webcam problem?
[16:31] <leaftwig> my screen went from big to small resolution and i can't manipulate system settings to make the screen big again
[16:31] <rsser> gyre007, if the help were okay, I wouldn't ask for help surely
[16:31] <nigweth> !radeon
[16:31] <bazhang> [x], /msg ubottu
[16:31] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I am trying to extract the text from a pdf file with some tables in a text file using the pdftotext program and it works pretty good. The only bad thing is that it looks like lines are wrapped after 60 columns, I wouldn't like them to wrap. Does anybody have a clue about that?
[16:32] <gyre007> :)
[16:32] <rsser> I won't impolite, gyre007
[16:32] <rsser> but the doc must to be clear
[16:32] <gyre007> you won't what ? :) mate Im having troubles understanding you sorry :)
[16:32] <bazhang> rsser, file a bug
[16:32] <rsser> okay, gyre007
[16:32] <gyre007> well rsser speak to Ubuntu team
[16:32] <bazhang> !bugs | rsser
[16:32] <steve234> to complicated. if there is a tevii s471 card, there should be a tiny driverpack with a .install.sh file.. i think. for noobs like i am.
[16:33] <gyre007> cheers bazhang
[16:33] <bazhang> rsser, complaining here will fix nothing
[16:33] <steve234> it seems like now i install hunderts of drivers for only one card.
[16:33] <bazhang> rsser, so file a bug
[16:33] <yekoms> user ALL=NOPASSWD: VZ, still allows users to exec sudo for other files, how do i prevent this?
[16:33] <rsser> bazhang, it's pitty old times don't come back
[16:33] <gyre007> bazhang, its not a bug....it's a slight confusion in man pages...
[16:34] <leaftwig> i squished it to 640*480 & i can't get the system settings section display to make it change back *butthurt*
[16:34] <rsser> how to fix that, gyre007?
[16:34] <yekoms> like, user should only have access to VZ. which is /usr/sbin/vzctl. but i can still do sudo ls /root
[16:34] <gyre007> fix what ? I sent you a github gist explaining how it should be used
[16:34] <rsser> I'm on that link you gave me
[16:34] <chris92> leaftwig: edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot
[16:35] <yekoms> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and restart X.
[16:35] <yekoms> you dont need to reboot to do that ;)
[16:35] <chris92> yekoms: yea I know, but I always reboot ^^
[16:36] <yekoms> thats okay aslong as your computer isnt a production server like all mine are ;)
[16:36] <yekoms> i only reboot for kernel updates..or hardware updates. no other reason ;p
[16:36] <yekoms> so no ideas/help on my question?
[16:37] <rsser> gyre007, where can I change on ls code to make it to list the directory with option -d only?
[16:37] <yekoms> rsser, edit the alias ls in ~/.bash_profile
[16:37] <rsser> i have to type ls -ltr to see what I want
[16:37] <modernrob> whats the version of the latest kernel for ubuntu 12.04
[16:37] <rsser> okay
[16:37] <leaftwig> ok im switching to windows vista >8C
[16:37] <yekoms> or, alias alias ls="/usr/bin/ls -flags" i believe.
[16:37] <[x]> google trolls
[16:37] <[x]> sri ?
[16:37] <leaftwig> I made it switch back by using tab n enter
[16:38] <steve234> it sais 530 modules. for ONE dvb card...
[16:38] <leaftwig> but now it goes really slower than usual
[16:38] <steve234> im loosing my mind.
[16:38] <bazhang> [x], chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[16:38] <yekoms> black@blackness:~$ alias
[16:38] <yekoms> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[16:38] <steve234> 38 minutes
[16:38] <[x]> chris92, how to update firefox alone ?
[16:38] <yekoms> apt-get upgrade firefix-*
[16:38] <Sri19> [x], ?
[16:38] <bazhang> !info linux | modernrob
[16:38] <rsser> empty file, modernrob
[16:38] <defaultro> hey folks, i ran playonlinux to install itunes. I downloaded the latest Itunes .exe then I chose itunes 10 inside playonlinux. I think that's what is causing the problem, m5d mismatch
[16:38] <rsser> there is no .bash_profile
[16:38] <yekoms> that bot is wrong.
[16:39] <yekoms> rsser, use the alias command
[16:39] <yekoms> 12.04 uses 3.5.0-24 for the kernel.
[16:39] <[x]> brb
[16:39] <steve234> the whole fckn system installation is about 25minutes from web :D
[16:39] <folorn> whats the command to remove a dir if its full again?
[16:39] <folorn> rmdir - what
[16:39] <ikonia> folorn: rm -rf
[16:39] <[x]> manjunath :O
[16:39] <steve234> rm -r <dirname>
[16:39] <defaultro> it will remove the directory too
[16:39] <yekoms> steve234, my ubuntu takes less then 3 minutes. i use a local install server for this ;P
[16:40] <yekoms> rm -rf <dirname>/*
[16:40] <defaultro> cd somedir && rm -rf *
[16:40] <ikonia> you don't need /*
[16:40] <yekoms> wow, so much extra stuff in these solutions ;)
[16:40] <ikonia> just rm -rf $directory
[16:40] <ikonia> that will do
[16:40] <yekoms> you do if you want to rm the contents of <dirname>
[16:40] <yekoms> without deleting <dirname> aswell.
[16:40] <ikonia> yekoms: then you need rm -rf .
[16:40] <steve234> yekoms: than .. this is not normal i think.
[16:41] <steve234> or use midnight commander :)
[16:41] <folorn> thanks
[16:41] <yekoms> ikonia, that requires cd <dirname>, rm -rf <dirname>/* will do exactly the same, without the extra command. :/
[16:41] <steve234> and cc1 uses 5-30% cpu.
[16:41] <steve234> make 1
[16:41] <yekoms> steve234, is your network mirror on a local network or public?
[16:41] <ikonia> yekoms: it won't pickup the . diles
[16:41] <ikonia> files
[16:42] <yekoms> rm -rf <dirname>/*.*
[16:42] <yekoms> happy?
[16:42] <rsser> modernrob, what would I can do?
[16:42] <steve234> is this because the make writes infos to the screen? is there a way to turn it off? maybe it would be faster.
[16:42] <rsser> there is not profile bash
[16:42] <yekoms> echo $SHELL
[16:42] <yekoms> what does it output rsser ?
[16:42] <rsser> I found .profile, but there is not reference to ls alias
[16:42] <WeThePeople> is eth0 connected automatically through tty2
[16:42] <WeThePeople> ?
[16:42] <yekoms> its .bashrc
[16:43] <rsser> YeahRight, /bin/bash
[16:43] <yekoms> if your #SHELL returns /bin/bash, edit ~/.bashrc
[16:43] <rsser> okay
[16:43] <modernrob> rsser: ??
[16:43] <rsser> yekoms is helping me, modernrob
[16:43] <yekoms> around line 75.
[16:43] <rsser> thank you, modernrob
[16:44] <steve234> they didnt told me if i buy this 50euro card i have to install it ONE hour long. i type make for 44 minutes ago!
[16:44] <yekoms> remember, you HAVE to logout, and back in for it to take effect, or do . /home/user/.bashrc
[16:44] <yekoms> make -j1
[16:44] <rsser> yekoms, sorry for asking, but what does "rc" of bashRC stand for?
[16:44] <yekoms> one process, quicker result. less CPU/MEM load
[16:44] <rsser> okay, yekoms
[16:44] <yekoms> uhm, not sure rsser.
[16:45] <yekoms> man bashrc :P
[16:45] <rsser> okay, yekoms
[16:45] <yekoms> anyone good with sudo?
[16:45] <EyePulp> sudoku?
[16:45] <yekoms> no, those puzzles are weak and too easy.
[16:46] <chulungs> a
[16:46] <rsser> yekoms, would I have to add an alias here?
[16:46] <chulungs> b
[16:46] <llaz> after doing apt-get install libpcre3-dev, what is the linker option to link it?
[16:46] <yekoms> i have "black ALL=NOPASSWD: VZ" and the user can still do sudo cat /etc/sudoers. but shouldnt.
[16:47] <KevinF> I've accidently open up this huge terminal which i can't close down. It the entire windows. Any help? :D
[16:47] <yekoms> rsser, edit your current alias. which should be alias ls='ls -color=auto', set your flags there
[16:47] <compdoc> yekoms, I think you can cat any file without being sudo
[16:47] <compdoc> *using sudo
[16:47] <yekoms> compdoc, try catting /etc/sudoers without using sudo
[16:48] <compdoc> cant - all my users are in there
[16:48] <yekoms> i want to give user: black access to /usr/sbin/vzctl only using sudo
[16:48] <yekoms> you cant cat /etc/sudoers as normal user.
[16:48] <yekoms> or ls /var/log as normal user
[16:48] <chris92> KevinF: ctrl+alt+f7
[16:49] <yekoms> if you opened a terminal, try typing exit :P
[16:49] <KevinF> Awesome, thanks chris92 :)
[16:49] <yekoms> doesn't alt+f4 close current foreground application?
[16:49] <chris92> yekoms, he switched from XServer to one of the tty terminals
[16:50] <yekoms> lol..i didnt know he did that, atleast in his question he didnt state that...
[16:50] <KevinF> Oh well, i said i got a terminal that covers the entire screen
[16:51] <yekoms> does 8.04 have sockstat in its repo?
[16:51] <chulungs> 132
[16:51] <muelli> yekoms: you can check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:51] <yekoms> KevinF, if you opened a terminal, you should be able to type exit to close it. or ctrl/alt/f7 but i dont use keystrokes for anything.
[16:51] <yekoms> muelli, its there but not in my apt-get
[16:52] <yekoms> i did: apt-get install sockstat, said package not found.
[16:52] <DasEi> yekoms: why still 8.04 ? it isn't supported anymore
[16:52] <rymate1234> guys
[16:52] <rymate1234> I accidently bash
[16:52] <rymate1234> wat do
[16:53] <DasEi> !eol | yekoms
[16:53] <yekoms> because its the best one for openvz. and the setup was much easier on 8.04 then 12.04 or 11.10
[16:53] <yekoms> i know what EOL means.
[16:53] <rymate1234> nvm did sudo apt-get install bash
[16:53] <yekoms> read the topic. says it still supports 8.04 LTS
[16:53] <yekoms> and i'm using 8.04.1 LTS
[16:54] <gyre007> is there any way guys how I can creat a Ubuntu boot disk on my USB disk without wiping out any data from it ?
[16:54] <DasEi> yekoms: in generl apt-cache search or show socks* can help you, but hardy isn't supported any more
[16:54] <OerHeks> yekoms read the topic, it is not.
[16:54] <bazhang> yekoms, server only
[16:54] <yekoms> Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only)
[16:55] <yekoms> im using that one...
[16:55] <yekoms> except i installed a desktop.
[16:55] <vibhav> yekoms: Are you using the server edition?
[16:55] <bazhang> yekoms, then its eol
[16:55] <yekoms> yeah
[16:55] <vibhav> bazhang: Is server too EOL?
[16:55] <bazhang> yekoms, installing a desktop voids that server support
[16:55] <DasEi> yekoms: oc your free to do whatever you want, but mind you can easily update from one LTS to the next
[16:56] <yekoms> DasEi, the openvz kernel dont run right on 11.10 or 10.04. but it runs good on 12.04LTS but its a pain to install and get going.
[16:57] <yekoms> sockstat used to be in the repo, but was removed and readded. all i want is either the source to build it myself, or a working repo i can add.
[16:57] <vibhav> yekoms: rmadison sockstat shows that hardy doesnt have it
[16:57] <Nsmurf> Does anyone have experince buying from Genesi?
[16:58] <bazhang> Nsmurf, relation to ubuntu support?
[16:58] <yekoms> i booked marked the launchpad site just lastnight and now its blank.
[16:58] <Nsmurf> Support? no, but they sell laptops with ubuntu installed, so i figured someone here might have one.
[16:59] <Nsmurf> where should i ask thet?
[16:59] <bazhang> Nsmurf, thats out of scope here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:59] <DasEi> yekoms: ic, I never used openvz, but other virtualization, that did fine throughout releases
[16:59] <Calinou> haha *laughs at Nsmurf*
[16:59] <vibhav> Nsmurf: DO you have any issue?
[16:59] <Calinou> this is about software support
[16:59] <Calinou> not hardware
[16:59] <Nsmurf> sorry.
[16:59] <bazhang> Calinou, thats not called for
[17:00] <DasEi> Nsmurf: try ##hardware maybe, though that eally is a topic for a chitchat channel, #defocus maybe
[17:00] <yekoms> echo "lsof -Pni" > /usr/sbin/sockstat; chmod +x /usr/sbin/sockstat; sockstat
[17:00] <DasEi> really*
[17:00] <yekoms> that did wonders as a solution..
[17:01] <yekoms> i wish 11.04 supported openvz like 8.04 did.
[17:01] <DasEi> yekoms: try another virtualization or is there something not offered by other solutions ?
[17:02] <graingert> DasEi: ##hardware is full of trolls
[17:02] <jilt007> Bios is in in view only mode. How to make changes in BIOS setting now?
[17:02] <yekoms> openvz runs the best on my hardware, qemu failed horribly, xen was good but creating them took too long, openvz has a wonderful web panel. makes life soo much easier
[17:03] <gyre007> ok my question should be...does the make startup disk utility wipe out any data from the USB disk if you want to make it bootable ?
[17:03] <Sidney__> 10.04 fails to log in to the gui and startx gives http://pastebin.com/44fiN26u
[17:04] <yekoms> yes gyre007
[17:04] <DasEi> yekoms: alright then, I'd suggested xen or vbox, where the latter isn't that small in footprint, but I got to stop, as I have no experience with openvz
[17:04] <gyre007> yekoms, it wipes out all data then ?
[17:04] <Sidney__> startx gives errors
[17:04] <WeThePeople>  how do i know if i am using ubuntu-desktop
[17:04] <yekoms> Sidney__, reconfig X
[17:04] <yekoms> virtualbox?
[17:04] <Sidney__> no
[17:05] <yekoms> Sidney__, that was directed to DasEi, sorry :p
[17:05] <DasEi> gyre007: yes, it formats the drive btw it has to be before, depending on used method
[17:05] <gyre007> shit ;)
[17:05] <DasEi> yekoms: yes
[17:05] <gyre007> ok cool DasEi
[17:06] <yekoms> virtualbox is like a fat chick at a buffet.. :(
[17:06] <yekoms> i wanted virtualbox due to its windows support, buuuuttt it eats too much
[17:07] <yekoms> xen/qemu does windows but takes too long, and openvz has distro templates lol..one click, wait 30sec-1min and its up and running.
[17:07] <DasEi> yekoms: but has nice interfaces, and oc you can have it console style, too, then landing in a landscape as hard to configure you can once use the xen
[17:08] <jilt007> Bios is in in view only mode. How to make changes in BIOS setting now? I am unable to boot via usb modem
[17:08] <yekoms> DasEi, http://blackness.sytes.net:3000/ so does openvz, except X isn't required :)
[17:08]  * DasEi reading
[17:08] <chris92> jilt007: you could reset your bios by removing the CMOS battery...
[17:08] <yekoms> its a login page, i can create a test user real fast.
[17:09] <tyler_d> jilt007: or read the manual and see if there is a jumper to do it as well
[17:10] <jilt007> chris92: tyler_d  ok Thanks
[17:10] <yekoms> lol, DasEi, i tried to PM you a user/pass to play with but your running a anti-msg script
[17:13] <sambagirl> when you run in failsafe mode, that's more or less equivilant to windows safe mode with networking correct?
[17:14] <yekoms> sambagirl, i would guess so.
[17:14] <sambagirl> ok that is what i surmised
[17:14] <yekoms> you may not have networking but it should be the same as windows
[17:14] <yekoms> ive never used linux/bsd in safemode for any reason
[17:14] <DasEi> yekoms: nvm, I found some info I lacked, yes as my router is down, I put some shielding, so what about using a todays distro with an older kernel then ? as far as I can see, it's just about kernel
[17:14] <yekoms> my safemode is a bootable livecd from usb.
[17:15] <yekoms> 12.04 doesn't backdate as nice as id like.
[17:15] <sambagirl> well networking actually works great. the issue is that on that particular machine i use it for my net radio show and i cant get normal audio when that system is loaded with the radio stuff so i wanted to get audio so i use failsafe and then i can get audio. it probably ahs something to with jack stuff.
[17:15] <yekoms> and 11.04 destroys itself when installing a older kernel.
[17:15] <yekoms> openvz doesn't have support or a newer kernel past 2.6.32*
[17:15] <Quasic>  /join #networking
[17:16] <Quasic> oops
[17:16] <DasEi> yekoms: I have a lucid vm here I can crash, trying to install 2.6.32 now, brb
[17:16] <yekoms> you cant get normal audio in normal boot mode?
[17:17] <yekoms> what version is lucid?
[17:17] <DasEi> !lucid
[17:17] <yekoms> i dont use names like that for ubuntu, i use 12.04...
[17:17] <Sidney__> couldn't find package purge means  xserver-xorg is not installed or
[17:17] <DasEi> yekoms: it's the next lts, so you could go there in one step, but give a few minutes now
[17:17] <yekoms> 10.04 has a .deb for openvz.
[17:18] <yekoms> Sidney__, do what?
[17:18] <sambagirl> yekoms no because  it loads my radio server and it takes over the audio with a different source so i cant access the audio like it normally would work so i have a work around by loading failsafe and then it doesnt load the radio station stuff and i can hear audio see?
[17:18] <yekoms> apt-get install X
[17:18] <Sidney__> do i need to install purge
[17:18] <yekoms> sambagirl, then disable the radio stuff on boot, and load it when needed :)
[17:19] <yekoms> Sidney__, what exactly is wrong?
[17:19] <yekoms> apt-get purge, will purge /var/apt/cache i believe.
[17:20] <sambagirl> What channel do I get support for Hoary build? I've it installed on this other machine.
[17:20] <yekoms> !hoary
[17:20] <bazhang> sambagirl, there is none
[17:20] <yekoms> wow thats OLD.
[17:20] <yekoms> 6 yrs old..what kernel is hoary on?
[17:20] <sambagirl> i'm not sure now :)
[17:21] <yekoms> lol, i have a 5.04 template for openvz.
[17:21] <yekoms> i could install it and find out hah
[17:21] <sambagirl> haha
[17:21] <yekoms> wouldnt take longer then 3minutes.
[17:22] <sambagirl> ubuntu sent me 2 boxes of cd's for every possible platform. i received over 100 cd's in 2 boxes from ubuntu :D
[17:22] <yekoms> wow
[17:22] <sambagirl> yep
[17:22] <yekoms> alot of damageable data there
[17:22] <sambagirl> that was when seveas and this other guy bob2 were here in the beginning
[17:22] <bazhang> !ot | yekoms sambagirl
[17:22] <yekoms> i host a local server to host install points.
[17:23] <bazhang> yekoms, thats enough
[17:23] <sambagirl> my starz
[17:24] <sambagirl> I recently read where Ubuntu is not being considered malware cause of it's association with Amazon. but then this is the wrong channel to discuss it. i'll go to off topic.
[17:26] <yekoms> does ubuntu have a limit on how much ram can be installed? i got 16GB installed but it only shows me 12GB.
[17:27] <bekks> yekoms: The current limit are some Petabytes technically.
[17:29] <bekks> yekoms: Oh, I am wrong. The technical limit is 16 Exabytes.
[17:29] <yekoms> and that is what? lol
[17:29] <yekoms> im missing 4GB on ubuntu, freebsd shows all 16GB
[17:30] <bekks> yekoms: 16 Exabytes are 16000 million gigabytes.
[17:30] <bekks> yekoms: Pastebin the output of lsb_release -a and free -m please.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> that should be enough for your chat logs
[17:30] <yekoms> so it has a limit, but doesnt explain why im missing 4GB
[17:31] <bekks> !paste | yekoms
[17:31] <yekoms> one moment. waiting for my make to finish.
[17:31] <bekks> yekoms: You can do that in parallel.
[17:32] <yekoms> not with one terminal ;)
[17:32] <yekoms> im missing 9GB.
[17:32] <bekks> yekoms: On Ubuntu, you have more than one terminal.
[17:32] <yekoms> http://pastebin.com/gUdsTUmq
[17:33] <yekoms> uhm. im using windows, my ubuntu is a remote server across town..
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> yekoms  if you use the terminal alot, consider using byobu/screen
[17:33] <bekks> yekoms: Then open up a second ssh connection.
[17:33] <yekoms> and i limit sshd connection to 1 per ip
[17:34] <yekoms> MonkeyDust, screen is broken..i gives me weird errors about my env
[17:34] <yekoms> which is what im fixing now.
[17:34] <chris92> it could be that hardy doesnt support more than 8 gb
[17:34] <bekks> chris92: No.
[17:35] <chris92> hmm
[17:35] <defaultro> hey folks, I can't get virtualbox to run on my 12.04 ubuntu. It is complaining and telling me to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup but I don't see vboxdrv file on that dir
[17:35] <yekoms> its new ram, and harddrive. i just installed them for the new setup of 8.04
[17:35] <yekoms> defaultro, how did you install it?
[17:35] <bekks> yekoms: NEW setup of 8.04? Geez.
[17:36] <defaultro> ubuntu software
[17:36] <bekks> yekoms: Why dont you use 12.04 nowadays?
[17:36] <yekoms> yeah bekks, 8.04 works great for openvz.
[17:36] <defaultro> yekoms, I installed it via Ubuntu Software CEnter
[17:36] <bekks> defaultro: Uninstall it completely, and use the official installation package available from www.virtualbox.org
[17:36] <yekoms> 12.04 doesn't like the 2.6 kernel as well, itll work but it causes lag between host->vps.
[17:36] <yekoms> defaultro, do what bekks said.
[17:36] <yekoms> it'll work that way.
[17:36] <defaultro>  bekks, so go to their site?
[17:36] <defaultro> coo;
[17:36] <defaultro> cool
[17:36] <yekoms> apt-get remove virtualbox
[17:36] <defaultro> awesome
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> yekoms  12.04 uses 3.2
[17:37] <yekoms> dont forget to purge if required.
[17:37] <bekks> defaultro: Thats what I just said, yes.
[17:37] <jesusemelendezm> hello
[17:37] <yekoms> openvz doesnt have a 3.2 kernel. and 12.04 uses 3.5.
[17:37] <jesusemelendezm> I am new to this chatroom, my first days with ubuntu.
[17:37] <vibhav> bekks: this channel only supports packages downloaded from the official repositories
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> yekoms  12.10 uses 3.5
[17:37] <yekoms> 3.5.0-24 was the last one i used on 12.04
[17:37] <bekks> vibhav: I know. I am not responsible for the fact, that sometimes official packages are broken - like the vbox packages.
[17:37] <vibhav> defaultro: Please dont uninstall virtualbox
[17:37] <yekoms> theres a 12.10?
[17:38] <chris92> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> yekoms  in 3 weeks from now
[17:38] <chris92> thats the one I'm using right now without the kernel ppa
[17:38] <bekks> vibhav: Support him, if you know better. Or let him use the official vbox version and get support in #vbox :)
[17:38] <defaultro> vibhav, i already uninstalled it
[17:38] <yekoms> chris92, i use the kernel ppa tho.
[17:38] <vibhav> ah, thats fine too
[17:38] <yekoms> and it updated 3.2 to 3.5
[17:39] <chris92> is it recommended to do that?
[17:39] <vibhav> defaultro: Thats fine, you can download the official packages from their website and get support in #vbox
[17:39] <yekoms> idk, i like to stay current and very up to date.
[17:39] <bekks> vibhav: Why do you rephrase what I am saying? :)
[17:40] <yekoms> so, if you're using the kernel ppa's, you'll be prompted for 3.5.0-24 and 3.5.0-30
[17:40] <jesusemelendezm> hey there
[17:40] <jesusemelendezm> I am new to ubuntu!
[17:40] <SkippersBoss> !ask jesusemelendezm
[17:40] <DasEi> defaultro: there also is a own offical vbox repo, though a (very) little outdated from latest version~homepage
[17:41] <SkippersBoss> jesusemelendezm, just state your question if you have one
[17:41] <bekks> DasEi: Actually - it is current. :)
[17:41] <yekoms> SkippersBoss, i think its a troll.
[17:41] <DasEi> SkippersBoss: missed the '|'
[17:41] <yekoms> DasEi, get it working?
[17:42] <jesusemelendezm> I like ubuntu, but i work supporting windows... if someone using ubuntu as a server here?
[17:42] <yekoms> ^ troll...
[17:42] <DasEi> yekoms: I think so, it's still insttalling, least I also found some openvztools in standard repo, so I doupt if they are there, openvz can't be used
[17:43] <bekks> jesusemelendezm: State you specific Ubuntu-support question please.
[17:43] <DasEi> doubt*
[17:43] <yekoms> it has tools..but you have to manually install the kernel from a .deb
[17:43] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: #ubuntu-server can probably help you out there
[17:43] <yekoms> use the 41 kernel. or it will break.
[17:43] <yekoms> 2.6.24-32-openvz to be exact.
[17:43] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: in answer to your vague question, many people are using Ubuntu on servers
[17:44] <jesusemelendezm> thanks for your answer.
[17:44] <rymate1234> hey guys
[17:44] <harris> in libre office when i open a docx with a picture in the file the picture says read error
[17:45] <rymate1234> I get this errir
[17:45] <rymate1234> http://pastebin.com/YTpmUAQc
[17:45] <rymate1234> wat do
[17:45] <FloodBot1> rymate1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <belbo> hi! i going to install ubuntu on my laptop besides win7 dualboot. though im wondering if i should make the linux os partition ext3 or ntfs as well; do different filesystems on the same disk "interfere" in some way?
[17:45] <yekoms> looks like you broke python rymate1234
[17:45] <bekks> rymate1234: Nopaste the complete output of the command you are running please.
[17:45] <jesusemelendezm> by the way, I was using myunity and suddenly some icons on the launcher bar became invisible...
[17:45] <yekoms> belbo, ext3 for linux, ntfs for windows.
[17:45] <jesusemelendezm> but I can open them.
[17:45] <yekoms> install windows FIRST.
[17:45] <jesusemelendezm> how may I solve this issue
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> jesusemelendezm  unity on a server?
[17:46] <jesusemelendezm> how about ext 4?  yekoms
[17:46] <yekoms> hes using the desktop version as a server.
[17:46] <yekoms> jesusemelendezm, i use the guided mode in the installer, and it used ext3 for me.
[17:46] <jesusemelendezm> oh ok,
[17:47] <jesusemelendezm> I have ext4 :)
[17:47] <yekoms> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[17:47] <belbo> jesusemelendezm i know the difference between the filesystems, i just wondered if different filesystems on the same disk might reduce performance
[17:47] <yekoms> i got 3.
[17:47] <yekoms> no belbo.
[17:47] <yekoms> i have your same setup on the laptop im on now.
[17:48] <jesusemelendezm> belbo, not at all.
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> belbo, ubuntu wont install in a ntfs,
[17:48] <yekoms> 12.04LTS and Win7-64.
[17:48] <belbo> ok, thank you guys :)
[17:48] <yekoms> linux is ext3, windows is ntfs, and its easier to install windows first. then ubuntu
[17:48] <jesusemelendezm> probably..
[17:48] <harris> in libre office when i open a docx with a picture in the file the picture says read error
[17:48] <yekoms> ubuntu will find the windows slice. windows doesnt do any checks for other operating systems.
[17:48] <jesusemelendezm> I install ubuntu and virtual box for windows.
[17:48] <defaultro> hi folks, I need linux kernel headers but it's not in Ubuntu Software Center
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> harris  try #libreoffice
[17:49] <yekoms> defaultro, so add the kernel repos.
[17:49] <defaultro> i need 3.2.31
[17:49] <yekoms> and you'll have the headers.
[17:49] <defaultro> how do I add it?
[17:49] <yekoms> or go into the package manager and search for them.
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> defaultro  3.2.0.31 is the current default in 12.04
[17:49] <yekoms> MonkeyDust, hes missing the headers.
[17:49] <defaultro> MonkeyDust, yes but I need linux headers
[17:49] <DasEi> yekoms: yes kernel 2.6.32-21 boots with no problem, also there is a metapackage linux-preempt , which will ensure that upgrades work
[17:49] <DasEi> correctly, openvz itself I can't find in the repo
[17:49] <yekoms> apt-get install linux-*headers*
[17:50] <defaultro> can i do it via apt-get?
[17:50] <defaultro> ohm htere you go
[17:50] <ledah> i can't boot on windows
[17:50] <defaultro> :)
[17:50] <DasEi> !headers | defaultro
[17:50] <yekoms> openvz isnt supported natively past 8.04
[17:50] <ledah> the boot put me to grub rescue what can i do?
[17:50] <yekoms> ok, my suggestion would do that and for any other kernel hes installed.
[17:50] <DasEi> ledah: reinstall grub and run os-prober on it
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> ledah, Have you used a grub modifier?
[17:51] <yekoms> ledah, boot a liveCD and repair your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:51] <DasEi> !grub | ledah
[17:51] <^Mike> Does the ubuntu installer support LVM?
[17:51] <DasEi> ledah: second above link
[17:51] <yekoms> lvm?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> ^Mike, yes
[17:51] <ledah> wilee-nilee, i just reinstalled kubuntu, and now it simply doesn't boot windows
[17:51] <defaultro> cool guys, it worked
[17:51] <yekoms> DasEi, thats the hard way.
[17:51] <yekoms> ledah, update-grub
[17:51] <|Anthony|> When does 10.04 reach EOL? 4/13?
[17:51] <yekoms> it should find the windows slive.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> ledah, can you answer my question?
[17:52] <^Mike> wilee-nilee: cool - do I need the alternative installer, or will the regular one do?
[17:52] <yekoms> s/slive/slice*
[17:52] <ledah> no i haven't used a grub modifier
[17:52] <DasEi> yekoms: if he runs into grub rescue might not work
[17:52] <yekoms> ledah, your at the rescue menu?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> ^Mike, Not sure I don't use lvm but it is in the install gui
[17:52] <ledah> i restarted to try update-grub
[17:52] <DasEi> !EOL > |Anthony|:
[17:52] <yekoms> get a USB drive, create a liveCD. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt in mirror mode, and chroot /mnt and do update-grub.
[17:52] <ldlework_> I have a wireless card and I can see it in iwconfig, I see the AP in iwlist, ifconfig says my card is up but not running. How can I force the card to hit the AP and get an IP?
[17:52] <yekoms> 15 minutes max to repair a broken grub.
[17:53] <ldlework_> I know all the commands to making sure the card is there, but I don't know how to tell it to explicitly connect to the AP
[17:53] <yekoms> ldlework, have you tried dhclient wlan0 ?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> ledah, THe esaiest way to get to the bottom of this would be running the bootscript
[17:53] <|Anthony|> !EOL > |Anthony|
[17:53] <ldlework_> yekoms: yeah that just pauses for a while then silently quits. is there a verbose flag? I don't see one.
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> !bootscript
[17:53] <yekoms> uhm, dhclient -h or --help
[17:53] <yekoms> i use a network manager for my wifi.
[17:54] <ldlework_> yekoms: yeah I checked doesn't seem to be one
[17:54] <DasEi> ^Mike: lvm is default on all installers if you seperate partitions as a default install does
[17:54] <yekoms> then check dmesg, or /var/log/dhclient.log
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> !bootrepair
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> ledah, This app can generate a bootscript to post the HTTP here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:55] <DasEi> ledah: if it's too hard, boot a live cd/usb, log back in here, then ask if unsure
[17:55] <the_dudez0r> Hi, I have this annoying thing with gnome, it doesn't show the toolbar of the applications I open. I'm guessing this has been a common problem so I don't think that any further description will be of any help to understand this, the toolbars are missing.
[17:55] <defaultro> vbox is working now :)
[17:55] <DasEi> defaultro: congrats
[17:55] <defaultro> has anyone able to install iTunes successfully via wine?
[17:55] <defaultro> thanks DasEi
[17:56] <ledah> update-grub didn't work
[17:56] <ldlework_> yekoms: the last thing dmesg says regarding my card is ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) : wlan0 : link is not ready
[17:56] <ldlework_> dhclient doesn't seem to log anything there
[17:56] <yekoms> ledah, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[17:56] <DasEi> ledah: have a live cd or usb handy ? btw what os are you talking from right now ?
[17:57] <ledah> i'm on my laptop and pc have kubuntu
[17:57] <llutz> ldlework_:  http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-using-command-lines-on-debian
[17:57] <DasEi> ledah: empty usb drive handy ?
[17:57] <yekoms> ldlework, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836867
[17:57] <ldlework_> yekoms: I'll check em, thanks
[17:58] <yekoms> you're welcome :)
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> DasEi, Just for some background on the ledah setuo they were here yesterday with this problem, the kubuntu is a fresh install, personally I suspect something is amiss with the windows end of the boot
[17:58] <yekoms> windows end of the boot?
[17:58] <mangdood> Hi, I was doing some program testing and now this program isn't doing what I want
[17:58] <yekoms> he has a broken grub.cfg, i had the same problem just two days ago.
[17:59] <mangdood> but it's not terminating either, with killall -sTERM (program)
[17:59] <yekoms> its a zombie then. :)
[17:59] <mangdood> yekoms: It's still using 100 CPU...
[17:59] <yekoms> get your zombie killing guns out!
[17:59] <yekoms> mangdood, shutdown -r now
[17:59] <yekoms> you cant kill a zombie..
[18:00] <DasEi> wilee-nilee: as I get it the pc-box is a dualboot from windoze and ubu, but a live medium on that box would save much of my crystall balls battery ;)
[18:00] <mangdood> yekoms: Top says it's running, not a zombie
[18:00] <jesusemelendezm> if someone interested in sharing about open source, experience in linux and so on? I am available for a private chat. I don' twanna read everybody comments.
[18:00] <Gycklarn> yekoms, Sure you can. Just shoot them in the head and always double-tap.
[18:00] <yekoms> did you try kill -9? or try sudo killall <program> ?
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> DasEi, Heh I think we need a bootscript is all.
[18:00] <yekoms> Gycklarn, not on linux, kill -9 isnt strong or powerful enough
[18:01] <mangdood> yekoms: I did killall -sTERM <program> and it's STILL not dead
[18:01] <yekoms> how do you run bootscript from rescue>
[18:01] <DasEi> jesusemelendezm: no pm on this, which version did you install ?
[18:01] <DasEi> yekoms: :)
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> DasEi, heh is a chuckle.
[18:01] <yekoms> killall -9 <program>
[18:02] <mangdood> yekoms: Oops. I always get term and kill confused
[18:02] <mangdood> yekoms: -9 worked for me
[18:02] <yekoms> -9 is -SIGHUP
[18:02] <yekoms> which FORCES it to die.
[18:02] <yekoms> idk what -s is for... :P
[18:03] <mangdood> yekoms: Any consequences other than corrupt files? -s is just signal lol
[18:03] <yekoms> -9 doesn't wait, or care, it pulls out the .50 cal and blasts it ;)
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> ledah, download the bootrepair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and run the create bootinfo summary and paste the http address it is at for us, tis will take out the guessing.
[18:03] <yekoms> -s waits for the signal i bet.
[18:03] <yekoms> mangdood, does your program read/write to files?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> this*
[18:04] <mangdood> yekoms: No, but I'm just wondering if I use the SIGHUP signal for other programs
[18:04] <yekoms> hah, wilee-nilee i tried that 2 days ago, and it wouldnt boot or run
[18:04] <yekoms> mangdood, i use -9 or -SIGHUP for everything.
[18:04] <mangdood> yekoms: Awesome. Good to know I can kill dem zombies then
[18:05] <yekoms> welllll, you cant actually kill zombie processes without rebooting..but hung up zombies, sure.
[18:05] <mangdood> Oh, alright then. Zombies are only alive because of child processes, yes?
[18:06] <yekoms> i havnt quite understood them, but from what i gather, its a process still registered by the system, but it isnt running. so its just a px aux ghost.
[18:06] <mangdood> I don't even understand your explanation >_> but I don't plan on going that far low level anyways
[18:07] <yekoms> heh.
[18:10] <mschr> mangdood no, zombies are dead, period :)
[18:10] <yekoms> zombie processes are listed in ps -aux...you can't kill -9 em.
[18:10] <yekoms> is what we we're discussing.
[18:11] <mschr> http://en.linuxreviews.org/Defunct_process
[18:11] <mangdood> If they are dead and don't use resources, I'm not complaining. Zombie all you want
[18:11] <yekoms> ps aux | awk '{ print $8 " " $2 }' | grep -w Z will show em all. and for each in `ps -ef | grep ” | grep -v PID | awk ‘{ print $3 }’`; do for every in `ps -ef | grep $each | grep -v cron | awk ‘{ print $2 }’`; do kill -9 $every; done; done tries to kill em
[18:11] <yekoms> i wrote one using awk, but cant find it lol
[18:11] <^Mike> A zombie process is one who has stopped executing, and is waiting for the parent to call waitpid
[18:12] <mschr> If the parent "forgets" to collect on its children, then the zombie will stay undead forever.
[18:12] <^Mike> ...which is what that link says :)
[18:12] <mschr> Well, almost forever. If the parent itself dies, then "init" (the system process with the ID 0) will take over fostership over its children and catch up on the neglected parental duties.
[18:12] <simplew> how can i download the development ubuntu? is there any iso available?
[18:12] <mschr> and as you might know, 'init' is pretty deep
[18:12] <^Mike> mschr: And what if init exits??!? :O
[18:13] <yekoms> mschr, sometimes the parent is init...
[18:13] <mschr> init controls the runlevels of your bootup
[18:13] <yekoms> lighttpd likes to go into zombie mode. and i use the above script to kill it.
[18:13] <mschr> if you kill init, you basically kill the OS which is... well not good :)
[18:13] <msp301> simplew: is this what you were after? http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[18:13] <yekoms> if you kill init, might aswell reboot.
[18:13] <kop> oops while installing some fractal generators from synaptic I got pushed into the 12.10 guantal development branch . returns " ubuntu 12.10 dpkg error processing nvidia-current (--configure)" and hangs at gui load
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> kop, the app is a 12.10 version or the OS is now, 12.10 is #ubuntu+1
[18:14] <mschr> mangdood if the process which is defunct has allocated some memory, it will reserve that space until it dies
[18:14] <simplew> msp301: i thought quantal was already released officially...
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> simplew, It is beta 2 I believe.
[18:15] <mangdood> mschr: Urgh. I better not write low-level programs then...
[18:15] <yekoms> so what he means mangdood is, if the process is using 50MB ram, it'll hold it till its told to release it, but wont consume more. right mschr ?
[18:15] <kop> wilee-nilee, it's something with the nvidia driver as far as I know
[18:15] <mschr> for instance, my 'proc1' program has reserved space for some language strings
[18:15] <ledah> okay windows was broken, put the installation cd and it restored it, thx for your help everyone
[18:15] <msp301> simplew: as wilee-nilee said, its in beta 2
[18:15] <mschr> proc1 is started by parent1 and 'released' equivalent to '&' operator in bash
[18:15] <simplew> wilee-nilee: after beta 2 will be the oficial release?
[18:16] <mschr> parent1 never cleans up... he forgets giving birth to proc1
[18:16] <yekoms> ill wait for ubuntu 12.10 to be out for a few months before i play on it
[18:16] <Sidney__> can nouveau, nv, vesa and fdbev be installed with one command
[18:16] <kop> wilee-nilee, it will be a moment as I'm running and logging aptitude against it to clean up and find other problems
[18:16] <msp301> simplew: there'll be a release cadidate also I believe, then final
[18:16] <chris92> yekoms: it should be out in a few weeks
[18:16] <yekoms> apt-get install, will do as many as you like.
[18:16] <yekoms> chris92, but i wont install it in a VPS till like jan.
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> kop, post what this kicks out in the terminal. lsb_release -a
[18:17] <mangdood> ...if you think that in terms of humans, that's rather disturbing "if a parent never cleans up, he forgets giving birth to his child"
[18:17] <mschr> mangdood parent1 exits - so, proc1 reparents to init (ID 0) and still has its language strings for hebraic translation allocated in memory
[18:17] <simplew> anyone here tried Mageia distro? i see very good reviews about it and its in 2º in distro watch
[18:17] <mschr> yekoms yea
[18:18] <mschr> yekoms but only if memory in the program is specifically allocated, using 'malloc' short for memory allocate
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> simplew, here is the release schedule. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[18:18] <yekoms> anyone who writes without is, is careless.
[18:18] <msp301> Sidney__: just do "apt-get install nouveau nv vesa fdbev" .. you can chain packages with apt-get :)
[18:18] <kop> wilee-nilee,  ubuntu quantal (development branch) 12.10 quantal
[18:19] <mschr> mangdood If the zombie process has id nnnnn, you can do ps -ef | grep nnnnn and find the id of the parent process, which you can then kill if no longer needed.
[18:19] <yekoms> msp301, i just told him that, he can even use \ if his list is LONG and hes typing it all out, i have a afinstall.sh that installs all my stuff.
[18:19] <ceti331> can ubuntu support the extra keys on a "razor blackwidow" keyboard (sadly they doint just default to being media keys or whatever)
[18:19] <yekoms> ps aux | awk '{ print $8 " " $2 }' | grep -w Z ...this is the same thing mschr
[18:19] <yekoms> ;)
[18:19] <enyc> ceti331: very ikely...   do you see messages in 'dmesg' when you press them?
[18:19] <simplew> wilee-nilee: so seams after beta2 its the final release
[18:20] <enyc> ceti331: i've used a script to interpret the extra codes being sent by an infrared remote received before etc.
[18:20] <Sidney__> msp301,  nouveau gives error couldn't find package http://pastebin.com/bsepdGUE
[18:20] <msp301> yekoms: ah, sorry. Just noticed you got in :) ... always nice to know everyone is willing to try :)
[18:20] <simplew> wilee-nilee: quantal install ext4 or btrfs by default?
[18:20] <yekoms> i love helping, i learn something new everytime. ;)
[18:20] <yekoms> i even showed him how to kill all processes with the Z flag.
[18:21] <yekoms> ive seen a process with a -1 ID before..
[18:21] <kop> wilee-nilee, then terminate called after throwing an instance of "std: :bad_alloc" what() std::bad alloc aborted core dumped
[18:21] <enyc> ceti331: for example i made something that runs 'setkeycodes' to make all the extra codes do someting useful.....   http://ec2.sheer.us/~enyc/miniqmythtv.sh.txt
[18:21] <kop> seems I have more issues
[18:21] <yekoms> kop, i believe you screwed ALL your depends up.
[18:22] <ceti331> "dmesg" ..let me check
[18:22] <kop> yekoms, ya think ? :-)
[18:22] <yekoms> if i was you, i'd format and reinstall.
[18:22] <msp301> Sidney__: I didn't check the exact package names for you ... nouveau is "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau"
[18:22] <yekoms> or try apt-get -f install. that will try to fix depends.
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> simplew, the default is ext4
[18:23] <yekoms> msp301, i told him to use * card to help find his packages.
[18:23] <sdgg> hi
[18:23] <yekoms> he should do: xserver-org-*
[18:23] <kop> yekoms, I'm more than a little ocd so I'll try to fix the thing
[18:23] <ceti331> is there an interactive mode for dmseg: dmesg runs and certainly recognizes that its a "razor blackwidow"
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> kop, You want #ubuntu+1 then
[18:23] <yekoms> that will give him all the options.
[18:23] <Hyperbyte> Hi.  How can I find which package provides a certain file or directory in 12.04?
[18:23] <sdgg> Who know good developers forum?
[18:23] <yekoms> kop, well apt-get -f install is how you fix broken depends.
[18:23] <enyc> ceti331: watch dmesg \| tail -n20
[18:24] <jrib> Hyperbyte: dpkg -S if the package is installed, apt-file (or http://packages.ubuntu.com or ubottu) otherwise
[18:24] <sdgg> no its not fix
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> sdgg, The developers don't really hang with the regular users by and large
[18:24] <yekoms> doesn't dmesg tail to /var/log/dmesg ?
[18:24] <llutz> Hyperbyte: apt-file search foo     for all packages, dpkg -S foo     for installed
[18:24] <sdgg> any help please
[18:24] <enyc> ceti331: this will update the screen of the last 20 lines of dmesg  etc
[18:24] <enyc> yekoms: /var/log/messages maybe
[18:24] <msp301> yekoms: you're doing such a good job for me, I'll sit back and drink my coffee :)
[18:24] <enyc> yekoms: which includes other stuffs
[18:24] <sdgg> Who know?
[18:24] <kop> yekoms,  running ...
[18:24] <yekoms> cat /var/log/dmesg|tail -nf20
[18:24] <jrib> !helpme | sdgg
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> !help | sdgg
[18:24] <Hyperbyte> jrib, llutz, thanks
[18:24] <diego> hola
[18:24] <yekoms> that will tail the log as its built.
[18:25] <enyc> ceti331: and when you *press* the special buttons do you get kernel messages explainigg how to 'setkeycodes' etc...?
[18:25] <yekoms> -n lines, -f follow.
[18:25] <sdgg> wilee?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> sdgg, Read the chanell info it is busy here and there is a protocol
[18:25] <yekoms> kop, AFTER it runs, retry what you were doing.
[18:25] <sdgg> I have webcam u wonna see my cock?
[18:26] <yekoms> troll.
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> !ops | sdgg
[18:26] <ceti331> ADHD might be about to set in
[18:26] <yekoms> ROFL!
[18:26] <kop> wilee-nilee, actually I'd like to get back here but in the mean time remove quantal and or fix nvidia-current ???
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> opps sorry I missed your presence IdleOne
[18:26] <enyc> ceti331: ADHD has what todo with pressing the specrial butons on the keyboard and looking in the dmesg log?  im confused
[18:26] <IdleOne> no worries
[18:26] <yekoms> apt-get remove nvidia-current; apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> kop, You can't just remove quantal.
[18:27] <Artemis3> hey kop whats the issue you have?
[18:27] <yekoms> wilee-nilee, i suggested a reinstall :P
[18:27] <yekoms> Artemis3, he broke his python depends.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> the  guy's camera probly wouldn't have picked it up anyway :)
[18:27] <yekoms> and alot of more stuff.
[18:27] <yekoms> haha BluesKaj
[18:27] <kop> wilee-nilee, didn't think so
[18:27] <Artemis3> yekoms, ok, no not nvidia-current related, ty.
[18:28] <yekoms> its nvidia-current related, but he cant do anything with apt/dpkg due to python being borked.
[18:28] <ceti331> enyc: the command output doesn't seem to relate to keypreses, its telling me lots about lots but not keypresses
[18:28] <IDWMaster> Is there a guide to porting Windows apps to Ubuntu?
[18:28] <yekoms> yeah, called wine.
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> kop, Try #ubuntu+1 and see if they can help you, if not you will have to reinstall what you need, quantal is released in Oct though, you may be okay if it is not your only OS.
[18:28] <enyc> ceti331: right ok there might be somehtig dufferent about usb keyboard mapping i dont know about
[18:28] <BluesKaj> !wine | IDWMaster
[18:28] <IDWMaster> I'm not looking for an emulator
[18:28] <yekoms> or build windows source code of an app on ubuntu?
[18:28] <ldlework_> gaahhhhhh you damned wifi, just connnnnect to the routtterrrr
[18:29] <enyc> ceti331: i know for these extra scancodes coming down the PS/2 keyboard port i could get the the messages and use  setkeycodes  to deal with it
[18:29] <IDWMaster> I have Windows source code for app; so I don't need or desire Wine.
[18:29] <IDWMaster> I'm interested in porting it from win32 to Ubuntu
[18:29] <ceti331> enyc: "ADHD" :) - if its not a trivial fix might just fly off in another direction.. was just randomly curious if i could get the special keys to flip desktops or something
[18:29] <enyc> ceti331: investigate,  i'd be surprised if it wasn't doable etc.
[18:29] <Benxyzzy> Can anybody recommend encryption software that allows hidden volumes-within-volumes as per Truecrypt? I've got a chance to switch solution here and I've heard some grumbles about Truecrypt's openness recently - but I need the plausible deniability of hidden volumes.
[18:29] <yekoms> IDWMaster, wont happen. you'll have to rewrite alot of the code.
[18:29] <Taffflash> I installed linux for the first time along side win 7 and I cant boot back into win.any tips please?
[18:29] <enyc> ceti331: oh it very likely is doable i kust dont know how =)
[18:29] <BluesKaj> IDWMaster, most open source apps that run on windows have linux versions
[18:29] <yekoms> Taffflash, are you on linux?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> IDWMaster, This is ubuntu support that is outside of that
[18:29] <ceti331> enyc: yeah;
[18:29] <enyc> ceti331: dont expect triviality, you well get further =)
[18:29] <ldlework_> Wfi card can see the the router essid, I have used iwconfig to manually set the essid, and no amount of dhclient is causing me to get an IP
[18:29] <IDWMaster> Should I ask on ubuntu-dev?
[18:29] <yekoms> if so, try update-grub and see if it finds windows.
[18:30] <enyc> ceti331: too much expectancy culture problemb
[18:30] <kop> Artemis3,  well so far my laptop needs nvidia-current and quantal hates it
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> Taffflash, Have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[18:30] <Taffflash> yekoms, yes Im on ubuntu latest one
[18:30] <yekoms> im gonna laydown for awhile, my wrists are killing me.
[18:30] <yekoms> Taffflash, run update-grub.
[18:30] <ceti331> enyc: tbh I wish the damn thing just mapped them as media keys by defualt; non-trivial effort ... its not that i dont like putting effort in, its just i have other things i'd prefer to put effort into
[18:30] <yekoms> and watch the output for MSDOS or WINDOWS
[18:30] <enyc> ldlework_: i think oc banual client of WPA you need  wpa-supplicant,  it does a protocal , you can't just set the essid
[18:30] <phil94028> anyone know the correct name for the ffmpeg channel  ..  doesn't seem to be showing up on the list
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> Taffflash, YOU also say alongside this was not a install from windows=wubi?
[18:31] <yekoms> ldlework, try connecting without a passwd on the router, see if that works.
[18:31] <ceti331> enyc: for the record i haven't actually used those damn keys on windows even yet, it required installing something and i use windows rarely these days
[18:31] <ldlework_> yekoms: I have. there is no password on the network
[18:31] <Artemis3> kop, i opened a bug related to nvidia-current failing when trying quantal kernel on precise (testing for future backport), is nvidia-current working in quantal fresh?
[18:31] <Taffflash> Ok just did a sudo update-grub
[18:31] <yekoms> do you see a windows?
[18:31] <Taffflash> will reboot and see what happends
[18:31] <yekoms> should look like this, hold.
[18:31] <ldlework_> what is wlan0:avahi
[18:31] <Taffflash> yes
[18:31] <enyc> ceti331: i seee... of course it could be some weirh protocol that has to ''turn on'' the special keys
[18:31] <kop> Artemis3, in a word , no
[18:31] <enyc> ceti331: rather than just 'extra scan codes'
[18:32] <yekoms> Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
[18:32] <ceti331> yeah its really weird
[18:32] <Taffflash> yes I see it
[18:32] <Artemis3> kop, which gpu is yours?
[18:32] <enyc> ceti331: get a better keyboard?
[18:32] <yekoms> cat /boot/boot/grub.cfg | grep loader
[18:32] <enyc> ceti331: i use  ibm model m  with no extra keys, and no windows keys for that matter =)
[18:32] <yekoms> double check, then reboot, and it should work just hit the down key to get to it
[18:32] <ceti331> I've never tried the model m
[18:32] <yekoms> better hope your wait time is over 5 seconds, if not you wont see a grub menu
[18:32] <Taffflash> ok thanks will test and come back
[18:32] <kop> Artemis3, even errors out in apt-get remove -- centrino duo
[18:32] <yekoms> welcome Taffflash
[18:33] <Artemis3> kop, this is a fresh install in your laptop, correct? which gpu model (or laptop model) you have?
[18:34] <kop> enyc, model "M" for ever !! type loud or go home
[18:34] <seduce1> hello. I am trying to install software from Top Rated list but Ubuntu Software Center keeps crashing continuously
[18:34] <ceti331> i like these "cherry blue" switches on the razor...  other features are irritating , the other one is instead of pass-through USB it has 2 usb cables.. very odd. Still, its very nice to type on, the sound and typeing feel is awesome
[18:34] <enyc> kop: well i'm taknig it to college tbh
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Artemis3, He has upgraded to quantal he should be on #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <yekoms> seduce1, try installing from terminal
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> kop, Go to #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <yekoms> apt-get install <pkgname>
[18:34] <yekoms> and see what errors.
[18:35] <kop> Artemis3, No , this was a mistake in synaptic while adding some fractal toys
[18:35] <enyc> ceti331: what do yu need/ the extra buttons for anyway??
[18:35] <yekoms> this is why i dont buy fancy keyboards.. ;)
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> and disable all eye candy on the desktop :)
[18:36] <enyc> ceti331: could you like hack the key matrix of another keyboard pcb (for the media buttons anyway) through to the buttons and wire that to the other usb port? ;-)
[18:36] <yekoms> i didnt like unity period.
[18:36] <yekoms> omg its ugly. :/
[18:36] <enyc> yekoms: and just general  ubuntu bugginess
[18:36] <defaultro> hey folks, when installing guess additions in virtualbox, is that installed in my ubuntu or in my Windows 7 vm?
[18:36] <yekoms> i use gnome3
[18:36] <enyc> yekoms: i know many sticking with 10.04 or using debian =)
[18:37] <yekoms> its installed on the HOST side.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> defaultro, It is installed in the guest
[18:37] <defaultro> k
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> defaultro  in the guest, so for you, in wi n7
[18:37] <yekoms> and accessed via VM
[18:37] <defaultro> just saw that it's an .exe :)
[18:37] <enyc> defaultro: the guest additions exist on the host, as an iso file, for installing them from, but they get actually installed into the guest
[18:37] <defaultro> cool, thanks
[18:37] <enyc> defaultro: i.e. updated drivers IN windows guest etc
[18:37] <defaultro> k
[18:37] <yekoms> enyc, im using 8.04 for my servers :P
[18:37] <yekoms> and 11.10 for desktop
[18:38] <Taffflash> yekoms, thanks its booting into win 7 now.
[18:38] <yekoms> Taffflash, did it work?
[18:38] <yekoms> your welcome :)
[18:38] <ceti331>  enyc: I would ideally map them to : next/previous desktop, and cycle windows. more relaxed to not use key combintations
[18:38]  * wuhei101 haiyou ren ma
[18:38] <enyc> yekoms: debian wheezy7.0 is good for next server insatll i suggest =)
[18:39] <yekoms> does debian support openvz natively like 8.04?
[18:39] <ceti331> of course i've got alt-tab and WIN+left/right for desktop switching
[18:39] <Taffflash> Now I got to learn this ok lol
[18:39] <enyc> ceti331: i wonder if you can get some small microcontroller / el cheapo keyboard  you can like wire the funny buttons to
[18:39] <wuhei101> quit
[18:40] <WeThePeople> if i uninstall xserver-xorg will i be able to boot into tty
[18:40] <yekoms> possible..
[18:40] <yekoms> have to remove X from the init scripts tho
[18:40]  * wuhei101 you ren ma
[18:41] <wuhei101> 有人聊天吗
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, YOU should be able to reach tty no matter what, booting is not needed
[18:41] <yekoms> i think he wants a NO-GUI build from a GUI iso.
[18:42] <ceti331> enyc: i think i just have to put it to experice... 95% ofthe keyboard is awesome. strangely sometimes i find the presence of the extra keys confuses my fingers as to where they are ( e.g. "where is the edge of the keyboard, where is escape" etc
[18:42] <WeThePeople> yekoms, no i am fixing my comp. their is something wrong with xserver
[18:42] <ceti331> i wouldnt' recomend this keyboard to anyone else ... but the cherry blue keyswitches are amazing
[18:42] <yekoms> basic > expansive
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, It would make sense for you to state your goal.
[18:42] <yekoms> WeThePeople, you should state the actual problem.
[18:42] <WeThePeople> ill be back
[18:42] <fris> how can i enable crypt, i get this checking for crypt... no checking for crypt in -lcrypt... yes
[18:43] <WeThePeople> idk the problem just trial and error at this point
[18:43] <WeThePeople> fris, type crypt -h
[18:43] <nell> do U all have the same trial version of Ubuntu? :D
[18:43] <yekoms> fris, look for a crypt setting in ./configure
[18:44] <fris> says crypt isnt installed asking to install mcrypt
[18:44] <yekoms> so install it.
[18:44] <yekoms> you didnt state much about your problem :P
[18:45] <fris> trying to compile now, one sec ;)
[18:45] <simplew> the Quantal desktop CD allows to install ubuntu encrypted?
[18:45] <dws> i want to install win 7 with ubuntu(installed) but problem is that whenever i go and install win 7 in a drive , it says "window can't be installed in this partition " .When i check from gparted that that drive is logical partitioned not physical partitioned .Please help me !!!
[18:45] <Taffflash> Got to get my head around learn linux it seems eeekkk lol
[18:46] <yekoms> dws, you have to physically part it. atleast how ive done it.
[18:46] <karni> After updating my 12.04 yesterday Chrome is so borked. Doesn't load any page, even settings.
[18:46] <yekoms> Taffflash, its easy... google for tuts.
[18:46] <Taffflash> yekoms, yes I plan on that,also you tube vids
[18:47] <yekoms> dont trust youtube...i dont
[18:47] <simplew> wilee-nilee: i cant see the alternative CD of quantal to allow me to install quantal encrypted
[18:47] <fris> here is the full line user.cc:(.text+0x1243): undefined reference to `crypt'
[18:47] <BenBE> I have a webcam which is working perfctly with Linux kernels below 3.5; but refuses to work with Linux 3.6rc4 and above. Using the kernels from the ubuntu kernel ppa.
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> simplew, I'm not sure there I have not had to use the alternative. Are you using the alternative due to not being able to get to the desktop or install on the live cd?
[18:48] <yekoms> fris, install crypt
[18:48] <dws> yekoms: i use gparted and shrink ubuntu and when i assign type of drive , it only show me logical option only .Please help me
[18:48] <yekoms> install the headers, should be mcrypt-dev
[18:48] <fris> yekoms crypt -h spits out Unix crypt(1) emulation program using mcrypt(1).
[18:49] <simplew> wilee-nilee: for what i know only the alternative CD allows to install ubuntu encrypted
[18:49] <bekks> dws: How many primary partitions do you have already?
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> BenBE, NOn stock kernels are not supported here.
[18:49] <yekoms> dws, thats a software part, windows requires a physical slice. iicr
[18:49] <yekoms> iirc *
[18:49] <dws> bekks: 1
[18:49] <bekks> yekoms: A logical partition is a physical partition too.
[18:49] <BenBE> wilee-nilee: I'm using the ones from kernel.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <gordonjcp> simplew: I'm pretty sure the "normal" installer lets you install /home encrypted
[18:49] <simplew> wilee-nilee: allows to encrypt all and not just the home dir which lead to a false encryption secrurity
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> simplew, I believe the live has a encrypted install option
[18:49] <yekoms> ive never installed windows after linux/unix.
[18:50] <yekoms> ive always split the drive in half when installing windows, then installed linux on slice2
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> BenBE, What is supported is what is installed in a stock ubuntu install.
[18:50] <bekks> dws: Can you provide a screenshot of your gpatred window please?
[18:50] <simplew> gordonjcp: thats a false sense of secutiry
[18:50] <dws> bekks: ok
[18:50] <yekoms> dws, bekks can help you.. :)
[18:50] <BenBE> wilee-nilee: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> BenBE, YOU might try ##linux
[18:50] <cje2> Hi, I am trying to change my colors in Xchat on Ubuntu 12.04.
[18:50] <BenBE> wilee-nilee: I guessed so, but it'd be nice to get a small hint where to start debugging the issue.
[18:50] <bekks> BenBE: Why do you need a kernel thats not default in Ubuntu?
[18:51] <gordonjcp> simplew: what is?
[18:51] <yekoms> bekks, he likes to beta-test? :P
[18:51] <bekks> yekoms: Its not supported in here basically :)
[18:51] <yekoms> rofl.. his problem, not ours then eh?
[18:51] <BenBE> k,bekks Because of the much better performance and battery life which was introduced due to changes in 3.4 and 3.5
[18:51] <simplew> gordonjcp: what is what?
[18:51]  * yekoms is away: family time.
[18:51] <gordonjcp> simplew: what's a false sense of security?
[18:51] <kevin1961> anybody got any ideas what to do if you forget your password, re install from scratch I suppose
[18:52] <bekks> BenBE: And why dont you use a 3.5 kernel then?
[18:52] <simplew> gordonjcp: google is your friend and try to understand why isnt a smart choice to just encrypt home
[18:52] <bekks> kevin1961: Wrong.
[18:52] <gordonjcp> !attitude | simplew
[18:52] <dws> bekks:  can you tell me the name of site where i paste my image
[18:52] <bekks> kevin1961: Use a livecd, chroot into your system, reset the password, done.
[18:53] <gordonjcp> simplew: furthermore, I don't think it's a smart idea to encrypt disks *at all*
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> kevin1961, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:53] <simplew> gordonjcp: neither i have the time, im also a volunteer dude
[18:53] <bekks> dws: http://www.postimage.org/
[18:53] <simplew> gordonjcp: your free to think what ever you want
[18:53] <kevin1961> ok guys thanks, what a crazy thing to do eh !!! forget the password lol
[18:53] <gordonjcp> simplew: anyway, if you don't like the answer I gave, feel free to use Google yourself
[18:53] <gordonjcp> !password | kevin1961
[18:54] <gordonjcp> kevin1961: common problem, read those links
[18:54] <kevin1961> ok thanks again for the help
[18:54] <BenBE> bekks: Because I'm also looking forward to some changes going to be introduced with 3.6 ;-) Also: Sometimes current kernels need to be tested for things to work when they hit mainline ;-)
[18:54] <dws> bekks: http://postimage.org/image/88ulqkqw5/
[18:55] <simplew> wilee-nilee: im browsing in the link you referred and i cant see the alternate cd
[18:55] <bekks> dws: There is no free space to create a new partition.
[18:56] <Lord_Zero> okay since i dont know where to find a good usenet channel does anyone here use it?
[18:56] <WeThePeople> is ubuntu-desktop like gnome??
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> simplew, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:56] <dws> bekks: look at /dev/sda7 , i created it to install win 7
[18:56] <gordonjcp> Lord_Zero: it's quite hard to get a usenet feed these days, since most ISPs have stopped providing them because of all the .binaries groups
[18:57] <dws> bekks: but i d'nt know how to make it physical device
[18:57] <AddisonE> Hey, for some reason /dev/null permissions are set incorrectly. Does anyone know why that might be?
[18:57] <simplew> wilee-nilee: im also there but if i hit to enter in "Download the text-based installer" link i cant see any alternate cd for quantal beta 2
[18:58] <Lord_Zero> gordonjcp: Can I PM you? I dont want to flood this place with usenet chat especially cause my next question to you might be sensitive lol
[18:58] <bekks> dws: You dont create physical devices. Your harddisk is a physical device, thats all.
[18:58] <bekks> dws: Partitions always are created on physical devices.
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> simplew, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[18:58] <dws> bekks: but why win 7 d'nt recognising this partition to install
[18:59] <simplew> wilee-nilee: here it is, thanks :)
[18:59] <bekks> dws: So which partition do you want to resize to have enough space to create another partition?
[18:59] <bekks> dws: Because you have NO FREE SPACE for creating a partition.
[18:59] <dws> bekks: i want to use /dev/sda7  (ntfs)
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> dws, Windows will not boot if inside a extended
[19:00] <bekks> dws: Impossible, because sda7 is a logical partition contained in the extended partition sda2.
[19:01] <dws> bekks: so, whats the solution for me ? is their any solution for my problem
[19:01] <bekks> dws: With your current disk layout - I dont think there is a solution.
[19:01] <dws> bekks: i d'nt want to format my ubuntu drive (its contain all my data)
[19:02] <bekks> dws: Then create a backup of all valuable data before creating a new layout an reinstalling your computer.
[19:03] <dws> bekks: please ! any other method than backup .backup take lot of time .Please
[19:03] <bekks> dws: There is no other way. No.
[19:03] <bekks> dws: And data without a backup isnt valuable data.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> dws, YOU can move that sda1 to being inside the extended, by cloning it and removing the sda1 or making it the NTFS with a bootflag and extended the extended to put the sda1 in, but you will have to change the sda1 clone to the partition number it goes to if you use say clonezilla, and the partition in the extended has to be the same size or bigger as the original sda1.
[19:06] <bekks> wilee-nilee: He's gone.
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> bekks, hehe I see that now and what a screwed up HD, lol
[19:07] <bekks> wilee-nilee: It's a... well... complex layout, yes :)
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Having partitions out of numerical order is a noob mistake, bad juju. ;)
[19:09] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Partitions are bad juju nowadays - there's LVM :)
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> true I don't use it but I have nothing but OS's on my running HD's bekks
[19:10] <upset> How do I change the splash (boot) screen in 12.04?
[19:10] <chris92> LVM?
[19:10] <bekks> chris92: LVM.
[19:10] <bekks> !lvm | chris92
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !splash > ubottu
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !splash > upset
[19:11] <WeThePeople> is it possible to reinstall the bootsequence for Lucid
[19:11] <upset> MonkeyDust: Many thanks
[19:13] <chris92> bekks: sounds useful
[19:14] <WeThePeople> is grub the kernel boot menu? so does the kernel have a booting sequence?
[19:14] <Lord_Zero> anyone in here a religous usenet user?
[19:15] <WeThePeople> does the grub boot to the kernel menu
[19:15] <WeThePeople> ?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> upset, Not sure what the bot posts but there is a thread at the ubuntu forum on this.
[19:15] <upset> MonkeyDust: You don't happen to know if there's a dconf method, do you?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Lord_Zero  some 12 people in ##religion
[19:15] <upset> wilee-nilee: Is there? i will check again
[19:15] <Lord_Zero> MonkeyDust: thats not exactly helpful but interesting none the less
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> upset, Yeah custom grub 2 screens
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> upset  no, sorry
[19:16] <upset> MonkeyDust: Again, thanks
[19:19] <JustBelieving> hey guys, what's the best (free) virtual machine that can simulate windows xp or 7? I want to play some games but they don't have wines for them yet.
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> JustBelieving  try virtualbox
[19:19] <bekks> JustBelieving: There is none.
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> upset, This thread has a ton of info by drs305, go to the bottom of the first post for a looksie.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[19:19] <^Mike> Is the amd64 ISO for 64-bit machines?
[19:19] <JustBelieving> MonkeyDust: Okay I'll take a look.
[19:20] <JustBelieving> bekks: You need to update your info. http://lifehacker.com/5714966/five-best-virtual-machine-applications
[19:20] <upset> wileen-nilee: So I saw. Extremely messy.... I'm actually trying to change my splash screen BACK to ubuntu's from elementaryos'
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> JustBelieving  i play old school DOOM in virtual XP, not sure if it can handle newer games properly
[19:20] <JustBelieving> MonkeyDust: I just wanna play mmofps games that are f2p
[19:21] <bekks> JustBelieving: No. A virtual machine never simulates an OS, but always executes an OS in a virtual machine.
[19:21] <bekks> JustBelieving: Thats why a virtualization solution has nothing to do with emulating or simulating an OS.
[19:21] <JustBelieving> bekks: Well that's what I meant then. Sorry for using poor word choice
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> upset, Is ubuntu at the top of the grub menu, in other words the control grub?
[19:22] <JustBelieving> bekks: I didn't ask what the correct term was. and monkeydust did fine helping.
[19:22] <upset> wilee-nilee: Uuuh
[19:22] <upset> wilee-nilee: I do not know
[19:22] <upset> wilee-nilee: It is the one and only distro I am running, if that is what you mean
[19:22] <upset> wilee-nilee: Elementary is just a session
[19:23] <fellayaboy> hey im sick of ubuntu/linux creating .trash directories in my flash drives and such...how can i make ubuntu delete everything without creating a trash bin inside my memory cards
[19:23] <lobhater> TJ: you around?
[19:24] <chris92> fellayaboy: shift+del
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> upset, Ah, I would just purge and reinstall grub from the ubuntu desktop, that should do it. elementaryos shows as a OS on the web.
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> with a quick look anyway
[19:25] <fellayaboy> thank you chris92 but how do i have "shift+del" for every pluggable
[19:25] <upset> wilee-nilee: Okay. It is an OS, it's just that you can install pantheon-session by itself. So weird that changing the greeter changed grub. Thank you, trying
[19:26] <chris92> fellayaboy: its just sth you have to get used to when you delete things from your flash drives
[19:28] <chris92> short question, is it possible to change the splash from ubuntu while booting? (not the grub2 splash)
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, Go to nautilus preferences 2nd tab click delete that bypasses trash
[19:30] <WeThePeople> how do i reinstall the boot sequence for a specific kernel
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, Make sure it is per flash if you do it in the OS all things will delete bypassing the trash.
[19:30] <fellayaboy> thanks
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> I run it that way I don't need the trash personally
[19:32] <fellayaboy> damn im using thunar
[19:33] <fellayaboy> umm how do i nautilus my default
[19:33] <fellayaboy> im using xubuntu
[19:33] <fellayaboy> im new to xubuntu
[19:33] <WeThePeople> computer cant boot passed boot sequence??
[19:35] <willfarris> hola
[19:35] <WeThePeople> how do i scroll in tty
[19:36] <willfarris> scroll wheel?
[19:37] <Taffflash> how I uninstall ubuntu? I need to reinstall it
[19:37] <WeThePeople> doesnt work, tty is teletypewriter, its shift-pgup or down
[19:38] <WeThePeople> use a live cd
[19:38] <bekks> Taffflash: You dont uninstall it - you just reinstall it.
[19:38] <IdleOne> Taffflash: How did you install it?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, I have not used xubuntu for a long time but look for a bypass trash in the prefrence of thunar.
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, AS well when you want to check the trash a ctrl-h will show the hidden files if you need to do this instead to empty it.
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> shift-delete looks to be your best straight approach when deleting in thunar
[19:47] <kop> can't seem to get nvidia-current to remove ?
[19:48] <kop> installed pre removal script returns error
[19:48] <kop> gr
[19:49] <kop> rrrrrrr
[19:49] <gosc> dfgfgg
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[19:50] <gosc> huj
[19:50] <chris92> kop, gosc: stop the spam pls!
[19:50] <gosc> huj
[19:50] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> Hi guys... So, I have some doubts concerning Ubuntu. I'm using a Macbook pro 13', from 2011. I decided to go for the dual boot between Mac OS and Windows. Once inside Windows, I downloaded the Ubuntu Windows Installer and installed ubuntu on windows. Now, i still have dual boot, but once I go in Windows it opens the GRUB(?) / GNU (?) (I really don't know this) and I have to choose between Windows or Ubuntu....   So... is
[19:50] <sUiCiDaL_pOet>  this actually a healthy way of having ubuntu on a mac?
[19:50] <gosc> huj
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[19:51] <gosc> hjdsjkkljvclkvjbghjkghjfehf
[19:51] <TheLordOfTime> gosc:  please stop spamming, do you have an actgual support questoin?
[19:52] <OerHeks> ubuntu with wubi inside windows on a macbook .. awesome.
[19:52] <ubunand> fee
[19:52] <ubunand> hola
[19:52] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: thats because you used wubi..... pretty dumb
[19:52] <ubunand> hii
[19:52] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> -_-' lol
[19:52] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> I know
[19:53] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> so, this is not really the way I should do it, right?
[19:53] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: so whats the problem.. if you don't want it, just uninstall wubi, and everything should work properly
[19:53] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> ok, can I have some idea of how to uninstall it?
[19:53] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: not really, but i'm not really sure how to set up a triple boot machine like that (if thats your goal)
[19:53] <TeLLuS> Hi, I would like help with bug #940853, should probably be reasigned to package djview4 and then fixed with an added depend and recompile... anyone up for it?
[19:53] <OerHeks> Wubi is just a demo. remove it from windows software manager
[19:53] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: add/remove programs, uninstall wubi?
[19:54] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> Oh, ok
[19:54] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> so it is on the software manager
[19:54] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> cool
[19:54] <KM0201> i wouldn't call wubi a demo, but.. it's best for testing as opposed to using
[19:54] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> but, then again... using ubuntu like this... why it is so stupid?
[19:55] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: it's not in the ubuntu software manager.. pay attention, you need to uninstall it from WINDOWS
[19:55] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> yes yes
[19:55] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> I got that
[19:55] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> ;)
[19:55] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> thanks
[19:55] <FloodBot1> sUiCiDaL_pOet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <OerHeks> TeLLuS, does answer 12 work for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/djvulibre/+bug/940853/comments/12
[19:55] <aguadito> lol
[19:55] <aguadito> "dont use Enter as punctuation" -- i like that one
[19:56] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: because if something happens to your wubi install, you'll find yourself unable to boot windows or ubuntu... with a "normal" dual boot system, as long as grub configurations can be loaded, one OS can be completely bricked, and you can still boot the other.
[19:56] <TeLLuS> OerHeks: Yes I wrote it..
[19:56] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> ok! that's very clear to me now
[19:56] <OerHeks> TeLLuS, i c
[19:57] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: but to be honest, i'm not sure how to go about setting up a tri boot between windows/mac/linux.. i've tribooted linux distros many times... id' do some googling, i'm guessing you'll find your answers
[19:58] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> and triple boot, is it possible? can someone provide me a link with a tutorial for that?
[19:58] <KM0201> yes, it's possible, that i'm sure of... just not sure how to go about it.. like i said, i'm guessing google will turn up quite a few hits
[19:58] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> oh.. KM0201.. you are a step ahead of my questions. :)
[19:58] <OerHeks> TeLLuS, now just wait for things to happen. i read #8 > adding libglib2.0-dev to build deps ..
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> sUiCiDaL_pOet:  tripleboot... i've done it with three Linux distros, but never Windows + 2Linux, and definitely not Mac + Windows + Linux, so... yeah, you may want to google "Triple Boot windows mac linux"
[19:59] <KM0201> even windows + 2 linux distros... is pretty easy.
[19:59] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> ok. I'll google that. Honestly, the problem comes after, because I don't remember how I got to put the wireless card working on ubuntu
[20:00] <KM0201> where th eissue comes in, is the mac... because they don't have a "boot loader" that operates the same way as the windows and ubuntu bootloaders do
[20:00] <IdleOne> TheLordOfTime: sUiCiDaL_pOet: triple boot with OSX, windows, linux is no different. make sure you install linux last so that grub can pick up your other OS'es
[20:00] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: whats your wireless device, do you know?
[20:00] <KM0201> IdleOne: i thought it required boot camp to boot between linux/mac (thus why i have no idea, as i've never used bootcamp)
[20:01] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> what the command to check that on the terminal (i'm using ubuntu right now)
[20:01] <chris92> lspci
[20:01] <TJ-> sUiCiDaL_pOet: "lspci -nn"
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 Taffflash: You dont uninstall it - you just reinstall it.
[20:02] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> * WeThePeople saiu (Quit: Leaving)
[20:03] <KM0201> or "lspci | grep Wireless" or "lspci | grep WiFi" might turn it up as well... obviously, there's more than one way to skin this cat
[20:03] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4331] (rev 02)
[20:03] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: that should be very easy to get working in ubuntu, even easier if you can temporarily have a wired connection
[20:03] <TJ-> sUiCiDaL_pOet: The important bit is the device ID  14e4:4331
[20:04] <KM0201> !broadcom | sUiCiDaL_pOet
[20:04] <KM0201> TJ-: dunno about that, i'd say the chipsset on the device is pretty important as well.
[20:04] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> nice!
[20:04] <TJ-> KM0201: The device ID *is* the chipset
[20:04] <TJ-> sUiCiDaL_pOet: bug #1027587
[20:04] <KM0201> well, but "bcm 4331"
[20:05] <KM0201> hmm, that's interesting
[20:05] <KM0201> broadcom's are usually pretty easy
[20:05] <TJ-> KM201 We don't care about the textual name of a device - the kernel drivers are only interested in the Vendor:Product ID
[20:05] <KM0201> sUiCiDaL_pOet: do you have anything under "Additional Drivers" asking you to activate the broadcom drivers
[20:05] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> dunno that
[20:06] <KM0201> TJ-: of course, but when someone is trying to find an answer, knowing the "textual name" is pretty darn important
[20:06] <TJ-> sUiCiDaL_pOet: see this, the forum thread claims to have solved it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987927
[20:06] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> I'm reading this
[20:07] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> is very helpful
[20:08] <TJ-> sUiCiDaL_pOet: I see some formatting errors in the quoted code (multiple command lines accidentally on one line, so keep your eyes peeled. The one I see starts with the "wget" command)
[20:08] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> ok. I'll have to investigate more about this, but definetly it was very helpful
[20:08] <TeLLuS> OerHeks: Bug was detected 15mounth ago, fix easy found 4 mounth ago.  Do we really need to wait more?  Maybe we could ask someone to do something..
[20:09] <KM0201> wow, ton of updates
[20:10] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> thanks a lot guys for the help
[20:11] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> I'll be back soon with some more doubts
[20:11] <KM0201> good luck sUiCiDaL_pOet
[20:11] <sianhulo> people, is there a way to backup all my apps?i will have to reinstall my distro, that-ll erase all my apps, the only program i know that is supposed to do this is aptoncd, however it never restored the apps
[20:12] <TaJMoX> I think my GNOME is broken... The Close/Minimize buttons were on the left of the window, now they're on the right. Also, I can't ALT-TAB or ALT-F4 anymore... But ALT+A works, etc
[20:12] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> thanks a lot. really... it's a hell of a job you guys do here helping out noobs like myself
[20:12] <sUiCiDaL_pOet> c y a later all!
[20:13] <TJ-> sianhulo: Run "dpkg --get-selections > packages.list" to save your list of installed packages, put "packages.list" somewhere safe, re-install, then run "cat packages.list | sudo dpkg --set-selections"
[20:14] <xizdaqrian> Sup all?
[20:14] <TJ-> sianhulo: Or you can use apt-mark ... that handles dependencies better. See this http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-from-backup-of-dpkg-set-selections
[20:14] <sianhulo> TJ-,  thanks for replying, now, that would run a command to download an install all my apps?or it would just install it?
[20:15] <TJ-> sianhulo: "dpkg --set-selections" will simply mark the packages for installation. You have to follow up with something like "sudo apt-get -u dselect-upgrade"
[20:16] <TJ-> sianhulo: Better to use the "apt-mark" method though - it retains the relationships between packages
[20:17] <sianhulo> TJ-, ok, i will try, thank you
[20:18] <BenBE> Webcam issue resolved; retried with latest rc seems to work.
[20:19] <KRomeleoN> I cannot get ,y galaxy nexus to mount under mtp, can anyne help?
[20:20] <KRomeleoN> it is very annoying
[20:20]  * keyzs http://www.tromsite.com for a relax
[20:21] <kop> okay I'm back at .04 and nvidia is still being a pain
[20:21] <bekks> Works for me.
[20:22] <kop> I was able to remove and reinstall but hang at *stopping system V runlevel compatability
[20:22] <KRomeleoN> bekks: gn?
[20:22] <bekks> KRomeleoN: What das "gn" mean?
[20:22] <xizdaqrian> KRomeleoN: Did you use mtp-connect?
[20:22] <KRomeleoN> how do i use mtp connect?
[20:23] <KRomeleoN> im just plugging the device in
[20:23] <xizdaqrian> at the command line type: mtp-connect
[20:23] <xizdaqrian> You should already have the Nexus plugged in of course
[20:23] <KRomeleoN> not found
[20:24] <KRomeleoN> do i need to apt-get install it?
[20:24] <xizdaqrian> sudo apt-get install mtp-connect
[20:24] <KRomeleoN> ok
[20:24] <xizdaqrian> sorry, mtp-tools
[20:24] <KRomeleoN> ahhh
[20:24] <KRomeleoN> :)
[20:27] <KRomeleoN> hmmm
[20:27] <KRomeleoN> mtp connect finds it
[20:27] <KRomeleoN> but nautilus cant display files
[20:27] <xizdaqrian> Yeah, another step
[20:27] <guntbert> !enter | KRomeleoN
[20:27] <lfaraone|sh> I have a program, ee.pl, that takes a .php file as an argument and does some magic to it
[20:27] <lithiumx> is there anyway to get overscn back after upgrading to ubuntu 12.x for nvidia?
[20:28] <lithiumx> shits either greyed out or just not there anymore
[20:28] <KRomeleoN> xizdaqrian, please share :)
[20:28] <lfaraone|sh> I configured nautilus to associate .php files with it, and gnome-open DTRT. However, opening it by xdg-open returns "No control file specified. Syntax: perl ee.pl <control file>". I'm pretty sure they're both referencing the same desktop, which has an exec line of "/usr/bin/ee.pl %U".
[20:28] <guntbert> lithiumx: no swearing here
[20:28] <lithiumx> k
[20:28] <xizdaqrian> http://www.omgububtu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[20:28] <lfaraone|sh> !language
[20:29] <lithiumx> this is driving me nuts
[20:29] <lithiumx> should have never upgraded
[20:30] <kop> <---about to send an ugly-gram to nvidia
[20:30]  * keyzs http://youtu.be/8drPWywxssM
[20:30] <lithiumx> whne i was on 11.x it worked just fine
[20:34] <paolo74> ciao a tutti
[20:35] <paolo74> !list
[20:37] <AddisonE> Hey, for some reason /dev/null permissions are set incorrectly. Does anyone know why that might be?
[20:37] <jrib> AddisonE: did you modify them?
[20:38] <AddisonE> Nope. I also checked the udev permissions in etc/udev/rules.d and they're fine.
[20:38] <AddisonE> Whenever I call 'udevadm trigger' it sets the permissions correctly though.
[20:38] <bekks> AddisonE: So which permissions does /dev/null have?
[20:38] <bekks> AddisonE: And which Ubuntu are you on, specifically?
[20:38] <lithiumx> anyone able to help?
[20:39] <AddisonE> Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit. The permissions are set at 600 unless I change them or call udevadm trigger. They don't stick on reboot though.
[20:39] <jrib> AddisonE: what's the output of « ls -ld /dev/null » out of curiousity?
[20:41] <AddisonE> crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Sep 29 23:48 null
[20:42] <jrib> AddisonE: 1) how did you discover the permissions were not correct? 2) what file are you talking about exactly regarding udev? 3) bekks question about ubuntu version
[20:43] <AddisonE> 1) postgresql won't start because the permission is denied, also sendmail has an error because of dev/random permission denied 2) Well, I found a file in lib/udev/rules.d that set null to 0666, and I also overwrote it by creating a file in etc/udev/rules.d
[20:43] <AddisonE> 3) I have Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit.
[20:44] <jrib> AddisonE: what file did you find in lib/udev/rules.d?
[20:44] <AddisonE> Let me find it again real quick.
[20:45] <AddisonE> 50-udev-default.rules:KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"
[20:45] <TJ-> AddisonE: Do you have a scanner attached using SANE ?
[20:46] <AddisonE> I do not. I actually have a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04 on it. I haven't done anything to it.
[20:47] <jrib> AddisonE: when you boot, without doing anything else, the permissions come up as 600?
[20:48] <AddisonE> Yeah, I have booted it and checked the dev/null permissions right afterwards and it's at 600.
[20:48] <jrib> AddisonE: do you have anything symlinked to /dev/null perhaps?
[20:49] <AddisonE> I don't think it's udev persay because calling 'udevadm trigger' sets the permissions correct. I just don't think udev is triggering itself on startup.
[20:49] <RandomDude_> Hello, today I decided to get rid of my Windows 7 Starter on my Acer Aspire One 521 Netbook. I went to the hardware store and bought a 4GB memory O-Dimm. After that Iinstalled ubuntu on the netbook, but everything goes rather slow. Slower than the windows 7 with only 1 GB RAM. Seems to me the problem is the fglrx driver. I tried to install it both manual and with Software Center, then I installed mesa-utils to see what glxgears does. It works, yet when
[20:49] <RandomDude_> I go to system settings -> details, it shows the desktop environment is using the VESA driver. Is this normal?
[20:49] <AddisonE> jrib: It's possible, how would I check that?
[20:50] <jrib> AddisonE: I guess you'd have to use find.  I was hoping it was something you had done and remembered
[20:51] <AddisonE> I wish it was too. But I have reinstalled the OS and went directly to check /dev/null and it said the same thing.
[20:51] <jrib> AddisonE: without installing anything after the initial install?
[20:51] <AddisonE> Nope. I have done it multiple times. One time I tried 'apt-get update apt-get upgrade' and then did it and the same thing occured.
[20:52] <jrib> AddisonE: that's pretty weird
[20:52] <TJ-> AddisonE: Have you tried switching to single-user mode? That might reveal if it is a runlevel 2/upstart script causing it? "telinit 1"
[20:53] <AddisonE> Yeah, I'm not exactly linux saavy or I would debug it. I set the udev.conf to debug and then called udevadm trigger and it logs stuff to syslog. When I boot up, no udev messages are logged in anything.
[20:54] <vicatcu> can anyone here help save my ass with some help network troubleshooting?
[20:54] <sayers> Will I be able to boot SliTaZ from usb thumb device without having HDD on some computer ?
[20:54] <TJ-> AddisonE: Is it desktop or server installation?
[20:54] <WeThePeople> is there anything like gnome
[20:54] <AddisonE> server installation.
[20:54] <AddisonE> The telinit 1 just kicked me out and saying "Network connection refused"
[20:55] <TJ-> AddisonE: Yes - it's single user mode!
[20:58] <AddisonE> Yeah, so is there anyway to test if single user mode sets the permissions correctly?
[20:59] <TJ-> AddisonE: Are you not at the physical console?
[20:59] <TJ-> AddisonE: I'm wondering if apparmor could be the culprit, but can't see how
[21:00] <AddisonE> I am using SSH to access the network. Not sure how to access the 'physical console'.
[21:00] <TJ-> AddisonE: Is the machine with the problem remote from you, not local?
[21:01] <AddisonE> It's remote. Doing through a VPS.
[21:01] <Boreeas> Does updatedb run when the computer is booted?
[21:01] <AddisonE> Is that the issue?
[21:01] <jrib> AddisonE: if you run out of ideas, I'd slug through the output of (you'll get a lot of hits for redirections though, and probably want to try to filter them out initially): grep -R null /etc/udev/rules.d/ /lib/udev/rules.d/ /etc/init.d/ /etc/init/ /etc/rc.local
[21:02] <TJ-> AddisonE: It could be - what VPS specifically?
[21:02] <AddisonE> Yeah. If you set udev.conf priority to debug and restart the server. Should it output into the syslog?
[21:02] <AddisonE> I am using ipxcore. Is that what you mean?
[21:02] <AddisonE> OpenVZ
[21:03] <rymate1234> hey guys
[21:03] <TJ-> AddisonE: Yes, OpenVZ has some implications versus Xen/KVM
[21:03] <rymate1234> get this error trying to open gnome-tweak-tool
[21:03] <rymate1234> (gnome-tweak-tool:21010): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.interface' does not contain a key named 'ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars'
[21:03] <rymate1234> wat do
[21:04] <bekks> rymate1234: Did gnome-tweak-tool open?
[21:04] <rymate1234> no
[21:04] <AddisonE> I apoligize, I suppose that would have been useful information to state.
[21:04] <Kyngdom> anyone here having problems installing ubuntu 10-12 on a z68 chipset?
[21:05] <pentagon> Why does ubuntu pick bind-9 instead of dnsutils ?
[21:05] <TJ-> AddisonE: I'm wondering if a script someplace has accidentally done it
[21:06] <bekks> pentagon: Because someone made that decision, most likely :)
[21:06] <RandomDude_> Hello, today I decided to get rid of my Windows 7 Starter on my Acer Aspire One 521 Netbook. I went to the hardware store and bought a 4GB memory O-Dimm. After that Iinstalled ubuntu on the netbook, but everything goes rather slow. Slower than the windows 7 with only 1 GB RAM. Seems to me the problem is the fglrx driver. I tried to install it both manual and with Software Center, then I installed mesa-utils to see what glxgears does. It works, yet when
[21:06] <RandomDude_> I go to system settings -> details, it shows the desktop environment is using the VESA driver. Is this normal?
[21:07] <Troy^> have you restarted X since the installation of the new fglrx drivers?
[21:07] <AddisonE> Yeah, I wonder too.
[21:07] <RandomDude_> Troy^: yes
[21:07] <rymate1234> RandomDude_, usually the fglrx drivers are not needed, and in some cases are worse
[21:08] <rymate1234> also, since when do netbooks have ati graphics cards
[21:08] <Troy^> Well unity is pretty demanding but i'm not sure if these are still expected results..
[21:08] <RandomDude_> Mine has a HD mobility Radeon 4220
[21:08] <Troy^> i mean you may be better off trying xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:09] <Kyngdom> yarg. anyone here had issues with ubuntu + unetbootin + intel z68 chipset?
[21:09] <RandomDude_> My processor is a AMD K125 II 64bit
[21:09] <Amkei> hi, I'm trying to customize my me-menu under Lucid. Did it successfully for my message-indicator-applet by changing /usr/share/indicators/messages... so I thought changing /usr/share/indicators/me will work in a familar way. But it does not. My Question: Is there ANY possibility to change entries in ne Me-Menu under Lucid?
[21:09] <rymate1234> it shouldn't be using vesa that's for sure
[21:09] <RandomDude_> Yes that's what Ithought too
[21:09] <rymate1234> Vesa is the default "I ain't got no drivers" driver
[21:09] <RandomDude_> Yeah
[21:10] <rymate1234> RandomDude_, what's preformance like without fglrx?
[21:10] <trond-> Hi room. I have a VPN connection to a server, and (thanks to help/tip from the cisco forum) I have set up routing for the IP-pool that users from the VPN gets. But when I am connected to the server, it has no connection to the internet. Here is my routing: http://pastebin.com/PXBqAaGF
[21:10] <RandomDude_> rymate1234: same
[21:10] <rymate1234> hmmm
[21:10] <Troy^> rymate1234: so it is not using fglrx then
[21:10] <rymate1234> yes
[21:10] <AddisonE> Thank you for you help TJ_. I have to go now, but I will try doing some searches about OpenVZ and dev/null permission errors and see if anything comes up.
[21:10] <rymate1234> it isn't using fglrx
[21:11] <Troy^> rymate1234: have you tried installing ati drivers manually
[21:11] <RandomDude_> No, but when I type glxgears it show the gears turning at 850-900 fps
[21:11] <rymate1234> Troy^, I'm not the one with the issue
[21:11] <rymate1234> its RandomDude_
[21:12] <RandomDude_> Yes I did apt-get purge fglrx* then apt-get instal fglrx fglrx-accle
[21:12] <rymate1234> RandomDude_, what does fglrxinfo say
[21:12] <rymate1234> if anything
[21:13] <RandomDude_> fglrxinfo says display: :0  screen: 0
[21:13] <RandomDude_> OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[21:13] <RandomDude_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
[21:13] <RandomDude_> OpenGL version string: 3.3.11627 Compatibility Profile Context
[21:13] <FloodBot1> RandomDude_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <RandomDude_> Sorry
[21:13] <TimothyA> is there a way to check if a machine will survive a reboot without actually rebooting it?
[21:14] <TimothyA> need to check if grub if installed correctly, without chancing to lose 2TB of production data ;>_>
[21:14] <rymate1234> RandomDude_, fgrlx appears to be installed and working properly
[21:15] <rymate1234> TimothyA, rebooting won't delete 2TB of production data
[21:15] <RandomDude_> Yes, should it be in my xorg?
[21:15] <TimothyA> rymate1234: it would make it very very very unreachable
[21:15] <bekks> TimothyA: You dont have a backup of that data?
[21:15] <rymate1234> Not if you have a live cd ;)
[21:15] <TimothyA> bekks: sure! I have plenty of 2TB+ servers sitting around! Let me take out my creditcard and pay for another 1200$ box...
[21:16] <bekks> TimothyA: If you dont have a backup, the data isnt worth to be kept. Sounds arrogant, but thats how things are.
[21:16] <Sidney__> 200 dollars will get you a readynas nv+
[21:17] <rymate1234> bekks, or you simply cannot afford a backup solution
[21:17] <bekks> rymate1234: Then the data isnt worth to be kept.
[21:17] <TimothyA> Sidney__: I don't exactly have money to put aside, I'm already starving
[21:18] <rymate1234> I would much rather prioritise food over an extra HDD for backups
[21:18] <TimothyA> I wish I didn't do apt-get upgrade today...
[21:18] <rymate1234> why lol
[21:18] <TimothyA> rymate1234: it decided to upgrade GRUB...
[21:18] <TimothyA> which then decided to throw errors
[21:19] <rymate1234> and?
[21:19] <rymate1234> oh
[21:19] <rymate1234> these errors were...?
[21:19] <TimothyA> ...scrolled off my terminal by now >_<
[21:19] <rymate1234> lol
[21:19] <TimothyA> it mentioned something about installing to a partitionless disk was a bad idea
[21:19] <TimothyA> and using blocklists was a bad idea
[21:19] <rymate1234> TimothyA, if you have access to a live cd
[21:19] <TimothyA> I'm using a RAID-0 setup
[21:20] <TimothyA> I do not
[21:20] <rymate1234> why not lol
[21:20] <TimothyA> the datacenter doesn't provide me with a way to boot into rescue mode or anything
[21:20] <rymate1234> hmmm
[21:21] <rymate1234> only real way to check if grub works
[21:21] <Sidney__> even with a live cd wouldn't he need a storage container to save to
[21:21] <rymate1234> is to reboot
[21:21] <rymate1234> anyway
[21:21] <rymate1234> I gotta go
[21:21] <rymate1234> afk
[21:22] <TimothyA> grrr, I hate this >_<
[21:22] <TimothyA> I must do "reboot now" to make sure it works, or else it will keep me awake all night, having nightmares about the server suddendly getting a power loss or something
[21:22] <pentagon> bekks: ok
[21:22] <TimothyA> and then turning out that it *is* broken >_<
[21:26] <pentagon> When using the alternate cd it installs about 100 packages is there an even more minimal option ?
[21:26] <bekks> pentagon: the alternate cd is the "normal" desktop installation using a different installer.
[21:27] <bekks> pentagon: Try the server iso.
[21:27] <pentagon> bekks: oops i forgot to specify I was choosing the text install
[21:27] <bekks> pentagon: The alternate install has no other installation options rather than "text based".
[21:29] <pentagon> bekks: off hand do you know how many packages the server iso can get down too
[21:29] <bekks> pentagon: No, I never cared about that, since I can uninstall everything I do not need.
[21:29] <weegee_> ez, can someone quickly giv me a hint how to reactivate my laptop mousepad? it seems to be activated via the usual ways
[21:30] <Walex> weegee_: it is not that simple necessarily, It should be autoactivated by 'Xorg' on startup, and/or by 'udev' communicating with 'Xorg'
[21:31] <weegee_> iz once worked^
[21:31] <Walex> weegee_: yes, but when?
[21:31] <weegee_> it*
[21:31] <weegee_> once upon a time
[21:31] <weegee_> in a galaxy far away
[21:31] <Walex> weegee_: could it be as simple as that you pressed the "disable mousepad" function button?
[21:31] <weegee_> dont think so already chekced that
[21:32] <Walex> weegee_: anyhow, to see whether your systems recognizes the mousepad...
[21:32]  * Walex checks the sysfs
[21:32] <bassclef> where is .htaccess in ubuntu?
[21:32] <ikonia> bassclef: where ever you put it, you create it
[21:32] <bassclef> ikonia does it need to be in my /var/www dir?
[21:32] <ikonia> bassclef: each site can store it in a different location, check the site's config file
[21:32] <ikonia> bassclef: each site can store it in a different location, check the site's config file
[21:32] <Walex> bassclef: in whichever directory served by Apache2, but you have to enabled it.
[21:33] <bassclef> k
[21:33] <bassclef> yea i did
[21:33] <ikonia> bassclef: where did you enable it ?
[21:33] <bassclef> i'm trying to install wordpress and use pretty links
[21:33] <bassclef> but it says its not writeable
[21:33] <Walex> weegee_: try 'lsinput' and see if it is listed
[21:33] <ikonia> bassclef: right, so that's going to be permissions
[21:33] <bassclef> i changed /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to Allow
[21:33] <bassclef> i enabled mod_rewrite
[21:33] <Walex> bassclef: you have to restart Apache2 after that...
[21:33] <bassclef> if i do a locate .htaccess i dont find anything
[21:33] <bassclef> i did
[21:33] <ikonia> bassclef: the .htaccess file needs to be writeable by the web server user
[21:33] <bassclef> i'm not retarded
[21:33] <ikonia> bassclef: located only looks in certain directories
[21:34] <Walex> bassclef: note that 'mod_rewrite' does not necessarily help with '.htaccess'
[21:34] <ikonia> bassclef: and you need to create the .htacces file or give the web server permission to create it
[21:34] <Walex> ikonia: '.htaccess' needs to be _readable_ by the user that runs the Apaches2 process, not writable
[21:34] <Walex> ikonia: and the web server does not create it...
[21:34] <ikonia> Walex: no, it needs to be writeable by the web server if wordpress is going to update it
[21:35] <Walex> ikonia: ahhh that's another story :-)
[21:35] <ikonia> Walex: and the web server DOES create it if wordpress tells it to in the install process for permalinks
[21:35] <trond-> weegee_, did your touchpad stop working after an upgrade to 12.04 or something? if so, add xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[21:36] <Walex> weegee_: yes, the synaptics driver package is definitely needed.
[21:36] <weegee_> got the package
[21:36] <weegee_> but it sys i have no lsinputinstalled
[21:36] <weegee_> says*
[21:36] <Walex> weegee_: so first check with 'lsinput' from 'input-utils' and then with 'synclient -l'. These two check that the device is accessible
[21:36] <Walex> weegee_: so 'apt-get input-utils'
[21:37] <Walex> weegee_: so 'apt-get install input-utils'
[21:37] <weegee_> Walex, im on it, takes soe time^^
[21:38] <Sidney__> what is the command to install nouveau drivers
[21:38] <Walex> weegee_: note that regrettably if you did not have the Synaptics driver mentioned by <trond> after installing it you need to restart Xorg
[21:38] <lenswipe> hey guys
[21:39] <lenswipe> wonder if someone can help me with something
[21:39] <weegee_> walex, it already was installed
[21:39] <lenswipe> ive heard of ubuntu studio and that it uses a low latency kernel
[21:39] <lenswipe> obviously thats optimised for very processor intensive things
[21:39] <wubino> anyone familiar with the Quickly framework?
[21:39] <weegee_> i dont seem to get a conection to the repository though
[21:39] <lenswipe> but im interested in what the drawbacks are
[21:39] <Walex> weegee_: also check the following: 'grep -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.' it should list all the log lines related to the pad
[21:39] <lenswipe> i mean it must absolutely suck at some things for it not to be included in normal ubuntu
[21:40] <Dany22> I have a question, i downloaded the most recent version of the wubi (windows ubuntu installer), and tried to install inside windows, i run the file, but it does not start, it seems like it`s trying to load, but does not start, hwat may be the problem, i am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit version
[21:40] <Walex> lenswipe: it is not for processor intensive things, that's _throughput_. Low latency is for stuff that does not need a lot of processor, but when it needs it needs it without delay.
[21:40] <Walex> lenswipe: it is less tested/stable.
[21:40] <WeThePeople> when i type my pass to login it sends me back to the login screen?? any ideas
[21:40] <lenswipe> Walex: got it
[21:41] <lenswipe> thanks
[21:41] <lenswipe> i knew there must be some kind of drawback
[21:41] <zergs> hi
[21:41] <weegee_> walex, the xorg logs dont seem to exist, and lsinput doesnt sow the mousepad
[21:42] <Walex> weegee_: does 'ls -ltr /var/log/*org*' list anything?
[21:42] <zykotick9> weegee_: the xorg log should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:43] <Dany22> I have a question, i downloaded the most recent version of the wubi (windows ubuntu installer), and tried to install inside windows, i run the file, but it does not start, it seems like it`s trying to load, but does not start, hwat may be the problem, i am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit version
[21:43] <weegee_> no synaptics in the log
[21:43] <kickingvegas> hi folks - just installed 12.04 on a new ASUS x401a; where's a good place to post my experience?
[21:43] <Walex> weegee_: also try to check the system boot logs I think with 'zgrep -E -i 'ps/2|ps2|synaptics' /var/log/messages*'
[21:44] <bassclef> ikonia: thanks a lot, figured it out :)
[21:44] <weegee_> no such file or directory
[21:44] <ikonia> great
[21:45] <TuxProbe> hello chaps, ive just done a major distupgrade - now my ffmpeg libraries is fubar -,-
[21:45] <Dany22> helloooo, am i invisible here??
[21:45] <TuxProbe> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.104: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:46] <bekks> Dany22: No.
[21:46] <Walex> Dany22: please give the number of your platinum support card for response times below 10 minutes.
[21:46] <TuxProbe> i have so.120 in stock - is there a repository glitch?
[21:46] <Ironsight> (not entirely an ubuntu question..) I have a motorola cable modem/router and my wired clients are getting a different wan ip than my wireless clients. Is this strange?
[21:46] <Dany22> i don`t have such thing...
[21:46] <Walex> Ironsight: no, it could be using different subnets on the two different networks
[21:46] <Ironsight> oooh!
[21:47] <Ironsight> I didn't think of that
[21:47] <Walex> Dany22: :-) then be patient and repeat the whole of your question not more freqjuently than every 10 minutes...
[21:47] <TuxProbe> ironsight, the WAN ip should be same... the LAN is another story
[21:47] <TuxProbe> myip.com give the same right?
[21:47] <Ironsight> the wan ip's are totally different :/
[21:47] <TuxProbe> the WAN IP belongs to your router, not the clients
[21:47] <Ironsight> yes
[21:48] <Ironsight> whatismyip.com is giving me 2 different ip's
[21:48] <bekks> Ironsight: Your clients do not get a WAN IP at all.
[21:48] <Dany22> okey, than i`m waiting...
[21:48] <Ironsight> wired gets one, and wireless get's another, and I even changed my ssid
[21:48] <TuxProbe> then your router is AOL and not a DHCP server, you receive your IP's directly from the ISP
[21:48] <bekks> Ironsight: The SSID has nothing to do with it.
[21:49] <gabo> m
[21:49] <Ironsight> well, at first I thought a neighbor was using the same ssid as mine (it was a default one for the local cable company)
[21:50] <Walex> Dany22: note also that probably almost everybody here uses Ubuntu natively, so very few people or none will be familiar with Wubi
[21:50] <TuxProbe> omg.. i cant watch pr0n!!!
[21:50] <ikonia> TuxProbe: enough.
[21:51] <TuxProbe> any ideas on how to fix linkage with ffmpeg package? other then compiling it myself..
[21:51] <TuxProbe> im not that desperate :)
[21:51] <TuxProbe> ikonia very well... s/p***/x264
[21:52] <ikonia> what ?
[21:52] <Walex> TuxProbe: you can manage dependencies in a very fine grained way with 'ffmpeg' but the most likely cause is that your Medibuntu repos are not quite the right ones.
[21:52] <weegee_> walex, how to manually restart the syaptics driver?
[21:52] <ikonia> weegee_: I do'nt think you can,  you'll have to restart X
[21:52] <Dany22> okey, than i will try to figure it out by myself
[21:52] <Walex> weegee_: you cannot really.
[21:52] <Dany22> :)
[21:52] <weegee_> i tried "synclient -l | grep TouchPadOff"
[21:53] <weegee_> and it just says no synaptics driver loaded
[21:53] <Walex> weegee_: There are sort of two Synaptics drivers: a kernel one and an X one.
[21:53] <Walex> weegee_: since 'lsinput' does not list a Synaptics then probably the kernel one does not recognize it.
[21:54] <Walex> weegee_: the ' 'zgrep -E -i 'ps/2|ps2|synaptics' /var/log/messages*' line above was meant to check whether at boot the kernel driver sort of recognized it.
[21:54] <TuxProbe> walex ahh right, distupgrade havent updated the sources.list then?
[21:55] <Walex> TuxProbe: Medibuntu is not an official repository... Double check 'sources.list' is always a good idea anyhow.
[21:55] <trism> Walex: we don't have /var/log/messages in recent ubuntu versions by default, try /var/log/kern.log or syslog
[21:55] <weegee_> walex, /var/log/messages*.gz: No such file or directory
[21:56] <Walex> weegee_: ah yes, I have kept 'messages' but as 'trism' says there is not one anymore by default, so check those he says.
[21:57] <Walex> weegee_: note that there is no need of a ".gz" suffix, 'zgrep' can do both compressed and uncompressed files, and the lastest log will be uncompressed.
[21:58] <weegee_> so i get something in the kern.log what do i do with it?
[21:59] <Walex> weegee_: you put that in the ubuntu pastebin and give us a link so we can see if there is a clue as to what happened.
[21:59] <Walex> weegee_: because the point is that 'lsinput' should be listing it.
[22:00] <kevin> i have a scrip that backs up mysql databases and will email a log. the script backs up fine, but it doesn't email how can i fix that?
[22:00] <weegee_> http://pastebin.com/tAWHGHZh
[22:00] <kevin> i think it just uses the mail command but i can;t seem to find much about it
[22:01] <Walex> kevin:most likely you configured to email on that server wrong. |Check the mail log files.
[22:01] <tax_on> hi guys. i have downloaded phpstorm and its a sh file and i have to start it trough the terminal. how can i do it easier?
[22:01] <kevin> i'm a newb how do check the mail log files?
[22:01] <Walex> kevin: note that most command line mail clients use the *local* mail forwarder, which must be configured right.
[22:02] <zykotick9> tax_on: "./foo.sh" assuming it's executable.  "sh ./foo.sh" if it isn't.  probably needs sudo as well (i'd guess).
[22:02] <DkoderN> Hey guys
[22:02] <kevin> walex: how do i check the mail logs and configure the local mail forwarder?
[22:03] <Walex> kevin: that's a bit of a long story :-). Check the Ubuntu wiki for configuring the 'smart host' for (probably) Postfix.
[22:05] <kevin> walex: ok, i'll check it out. thanks
[22:05] <Gycklarn> Is there any way to make gnome-terminal automatically copy whatever I select with my mouse? Like in Putty?
[22:05] <Walex> Gycklarn: that's a very, very complicated story.
[22:05] <Gycklarn> heh
[22:05] <Gycklarn> So... no?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> Gycklarn,  you can select, then middle click, to use the  X 'selection buffer' instead of the clipbord. there are tools to sync the 2. whichmay do what you want
[22:05] <Walex> Gycklarn: there is a large difference between the X selection and copy operations.
[22:06] <Walex> Gycklarn: the selection mechanism is not a copy-and-paste mechanism as in Other GUIs.
[22:06] <the_loop_digga> hallo
[22:07] <Walex> weegee_: your pas seems to be recognized in PS/2 mouse emulation mode rather than Synaptics pad mode (unless you also have a PS/2 type mouse attached)
[22:07] <weegee_> walex, i have one attached
[22:07] <Walex> weegee_: that must be a _very_ old laptop.
[22:08] <weegee_> not sure isnt mine
[22:08] <weegee_> ideapad
[22:08] <weegee_> 3 years old
[22:08] <Walex> weegee_: only 3 years? A laptop with PS/2 ports? Strange.
[22:08] <Dr_willis> i would be suprised at that also.
[22:08] <weegee_> no ps2 ports here lol
[22:09] <weegee_> its on usb
[22:09] <rocky_> e
[22:09] <rocky_> hello everyone
[22:09] <chris92> hey rocky_
[22:09] <Walex> weegee_: then it is not a PS/2 style mouse, and the PS/2 lines you see are from the Synaptic.
[22:09] <Dr_willis> I do see PS2 on some desktop machines - mainly for kvm switches i think.
[22:09] <rocky_> i have problem in my ubuntu 12.04, my chrome browser while browsing unexpectedly closes
[22:10] <rocky_> then i have to reopen to restore abs
[22:10] <rocky_> then i have to reopen to restore tabs
[22:10] <Walex> weegee_: does 'lsmod | grep hid' list a few lines?
[22:10] <rocky_> now it is happening too frequently
[22:10] <zykotick9> rocky_: google-chrome or chromium?
[22:10] <rocky_> i uninstalled chrome/installed again from ubuntu software center did not helped
[22:11] <weegee_> http://pastebin.com/4R7xWBPD
[22:11] <Dr_willis> Uninstalling/reinstalling an app to 'fix' it is windows thinking rocky_
[22:11] <Dr_willis> rocky_,  you did try disabling any plugins first?
[22:11] <rocky_> zykotick9, it's chromium web browser
[22:11] <rocky_> Dr_willis, absoluely right
[22:12] <rocky_> Dr_willis, yes i can try
[22:12] <rocky_> Dr_willis, most recently i installed Clearly
[22:12] <rocky_> Dr_willis, this is good suggestion i will disable it
[22:13] <zykotick9> rocky_: from the default repo, or some ppa or something?  you can check with "apt-cache policy chromium-browser" is it 18.0.1025.168?
[22:13] <blz> Hello!  I've configured my nvidia xserver settings such that my external monitor connected to my laptop is running as a separate X display.  I have everything the way I want it except that this monitor goes to sleep whenever the laptop lid is closed.  How can I prevent this from happening?
[22:15] <rocky_> zykotick9, it's  Installed: 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[22:15] <ikonia> blz: try disabling dpms on that monitor
[22:15] <VlanZ> is there any program to see when the system writes and reads from the hard drive?
[22:15] <rocky_> zykotick9, Candidate: 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[22:15] <Walex> weegee_: BTW what I see in my logs is here: http://pastebin.com/4mebuteb
[22:15] <zykotick9> !info chromium-browser | rocky_ well, that doesn't appear to be the "default" chromium?
[22:15] <blz> ikonia, how would I go about doing that?
[22:15] <Relondo> How can I automount a drive on startup?
[22:15] <ikonia> blz: in the xorg.conf, disable dpms on that monitor
[22:15] <ikonia> VlanZ: you can strace a program
[22:15] <zykotick9> Relondo: /etc/fstab
[22:16] <Relondo> zykotick9: Sorry, could you elaborate a little?
[22:16] <zykotick9> !fstab | Relondo
[22:16] <blz> ikonia, I take it that this should be fairly obvious =)  I have an unnatural fear of xorg.conf
[22:16] <rocky_> ubottu,  Version table:
[22:16] <rocky_>  *** 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 0
[22:16] <rocky_>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe amd64 Packages
[22:16] <rocky_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:16] <rocky_>      18.0.1025.168~r134367-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 0
[22:16] <rocky_>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe amd64 Packages
[22:16] <FloodBot1> rocky_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <zykotick9> !paste | rocky_
[22:16] <ikonia> blz: it's just an option somethin glike option DPMS false
[22:16] <ikonia> blz: but you'll need to check it
[22:17] <rocky_> ubottu, zykotick9 thank you
[22:17] <blz> ikonia, will do. thanks for the advice =)
[22:17] <ikonia> blz: may not make a difference, but it's a good starting point
[22:17] <VlanZ> ikonia: for example i just downloaded an iso with transmission to the USB hard drive, and i'd like to verify if this program with its current settings writes to the SSD before copying to the external USB drive. Can i do that?
[22:17] <Relondo> zykotick9: Thanks.
[22:17] <zykotick9> rocky_: Relondo Glad to help
[22:17] <rocky_> Dr_willis, zykotick9 i have disabled plugin so far good,lets hope this fixes the problem
[22:17] <ikonia> VlanZ: it will write to where you tell it to write (the save dir)
[22:18] <Walex> weegee_: what's the output of 'ls -ld /sys/module/*{mouse,8042}*' ?
[22:18] <ikonia> VlanZ: it will use the temporary space you tell it to use, and the final save destination you tell it to use, you don't need to "verify" that
[22:18] <weegee_> http://pastebin.com/vnqtcMg3
[22:20] <VlanZ> ikonia: so it does have a temporary folder? cause i don't see it..
[22:20] <blz> ikonia, this is the only entry for dpms I can find... not quite sure what to do with this.
[22:20] <blz> ikonia, the good news is that this is the correct monitor!
[22:20] <ikonia> VlanZ: then it will use the desintation space
[22:22] <^Mike> It is possible to use google authenticator with pam/ssh now - can I require both an ssh key /and/ a verification code?
[22:22] <ikonia> ^Mike: that's not going to wor k
[22:22] <^Mike> Why not?
[22:22] <ikonia> ^Mike: has somsone written a pam module to interact with googles auth system ?
[22:23] <^Mike> Yes.
[22:23] <ikonia> then it will work
[22:23] <^Mike> Yes, I can log in with a verification code - I used the instructions at http://www.howtogeek.com/121650/how-to-secure-ssh-with-google-authenticators-two-factor-authentication/ - but I would like to require an ssh key /and/ code
[22:23] <ikonia> ^Mike: ok, so you just need two requires
[22:24] <VlanZ> ikonia: i am quite puzzled because during the download of a liveCD (700 MB) the USB drive was absolutely quiet for 20 seconds, then it was writing very intesively for 10 seconds and then quite again. I'd have expected a much more regular copy process since the download was 3.0 MB/s all process long. I wonder what's that about
[22:25] <ikonia> VlanZ: that will be commiting from ram
[22:25] <Guest57562> hi
[22:25] <MoleMan> I installed get_iplayer from the standard package, does anyone know where the actuall files are stored, or how I can work out where they are?
[22:25] <^Mike> ikonia: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean
[22:26] <ikonia> ^Mike: the pam rules have options such as "require" eg: require lib_auth_cypto, you need to include the auth for ssh and google's auth as "require"
[22:27] <VlanZ> ikonia: yeah i also tought about that. I really don't want to have not needed writes to my SSD; however it would be cool do have knowledge of what an executable is really doing with the files, if it's reading or writing something.
[22:27] <ikonia> then strace the program and waste your time
[22:28] <DayDrake> I've been having trouble with flash being very unstable, anyone got any ideas? I'm running ubuntu 64-bit on a amd fx-8120 and 2x nvidia gtx 560 ti if that is relevant.
[22:29] <zerwas> DayDrake, if you are running Chrome, you could try switching from NPAPI to PPAPI or vice versa
[22:30] <zerwas> DayDrake, go to about:plugins in the URL bar and disable/enable one of the versions. Restart Chrome and see if it's still unstable
[22:33] <weegee_> walex, http://pastebin.com/vnqtcMg3
[22:33] <folorn> anyone know how to open up a port so the public can connect to you?
[22:34] <folorn> need port 2860 open
[22:34] <ikonia> folorn: you do that through your router
[22:34] <ikonia> unless you have configured a software firewall on your ubuntu machine
[22:35] <zerwas> folorn, it depends on your router and is the same procedure in every operating system. have a look into the manual to see how to forward a port
[22:36] <Bennn> I'm running Kubuntu 11.10. Molom software center crashes, and MySQL Administrator also crashes when I try to use it to restor a database.  Is it wise to upgrade this installation, or should I do a fresh install?
[22:37] <ikonia> depends on the reasons for the crash
[22:38] <Bennn> I sort of gave up trying to figure out the Muon crash. Haven't started on the MySQL Administrator one.
[22:39] <ikonia> then how can we advise  you
[22:40] <Walex> VlanZ: the IO pattern you see is typical: most GNU/Linux systems are misconfigured to buffer a lot of writes to memory and then to dump them in one go to persistent storage.
[22:41] <Bennn> You couls give me an idea of whether an upgrade might fix such problems. Or whether I should do a clean instal.
[22:41] <TuxProbe> walex hmm well i have no medubuntu repo's listed at all
[22:41] <ikonia> Bennn: how do we know if it will fix it, if you have no idea why it's crashing
[22:42] <Walex> TuxProbe: then add them because they have got the right codecs and players for a lot of media. Check the relevant Wiki pages
[22:42] <TuxProbe> first error i have was libdirectfb.so.0 not found, i link so.9 to so.0 and voila
[22:42] <Walex> !ubotu mpeg
[22:42] <Walex> ubotu mpeg
[22:43] <TuxProbe> then next was missing linkage of x264.so.128
[22:43] <Bennn> ikonia: If I did know why they were crashing, I doubt you would know then either. I'm wondering is upgrading clears up such problems.
[22:43] <Sidney__> now this box cant see the hard drive i should have reinstalled when I had the chance
[22:43] <Walex> TuxProbe: that's a codec library, Probably in the upgrade your codec libraries were not properly removed or updated.
[22:44] <ikonia> Bennn: how can you say I doubt I would know either ? and how can you expect people to advise you if an upgrade will fix your problems with no information about why these applications are crashing
[22:45] <Walex> VlanZ: to avoid that IO pattern set to a smaller value 'vm.dirty_bytes', usually set it to around 1 second of IO bandwith
[22:45] <Walex> TuxProbe: hand linking shared objects is a very bad idea, it will make trouble for further upgrades.
[22:46] <VlanZ> Walex: great to know i can do that, however something might be preferrable not to have many writes every second, right?
[22:46] <Sidney__> do i need special hardware to run unity unity I cant get it to install on any machine
[22:46] <Walex> VlanZ: almost never.
[22:46] <Bennn> ikonia: It's a simple enough question. I'm not asking for anything definitive.
[22:46] <ikonia> Sidney__: no, and installing does not check your hardware requirements
[22:46] <Denormalized> test
[22:47] <VlanZ> Walex: why is that?
[22:47] <ikonia> Bennn: no, it's not "hi, I have a problem with 2 applications crashing will updating the distro fix this" - how can you expect anyone to answer that with any confidence based on that lack of informaiton or reason
[22:47] <Walex> VlanZ: buffering a lot of writes is a great delusion that many supposedly knowledgeable people have. See for example the default parameters for the 'deadline' elevator.
[22:47] <Walex> VlanZ: it is a slightly long story the why.
[22:48] <Walex> VlanZ: the only case where buffering writes is of advantage is on a laptop on battery with a rotating disk device, and a low write rate.
[22:48] <VlanZ> Walex: i've heard that it would prevent HDD wear, but maybe i was wrong..
[22:48] <Walex> VlanZ: only if the disk is in power saving mode, and then the main effect is to save battery.
[22:48] <Bennn> ikonia: *sigh* Let me rephrase. Hey guys, ever hear of weird crashed being cleared up after an upgrade?
[22:48] <ikonia> Bennn: again - a pointless question
[22:48] <Walex> Bennn: very many times.
[22:49] <Walex> Bennn: and yes, that's a pointless question.
[22:49] <Redi> Hi, just a fast question. I would like to buy some things from the USC (for the first time :D ) and I would like to know If i purchase them, will I be able to install them every time I reinstall Ubuntu?
[22:49] <Bennn> Why is it a pointless question?
[22:49] <Walex> Bennn: one fact of life is that most software products are released with hundreds of known bugs.
[22:49] <ikonia> ever hear of anyone getting cured of cancer "yes" - doesn't mean I will be cured
[22:50] <Walex> Bennn: which bugs they are released with changes with each release.
[22:50] <ikonia> issus are specific to you, or they are documented well know bugs, you have shown neither at this time, so we can't advise with confidence
[22:50] <VlanZ> Bennn: might not be so pointless: what kind of crashes did you have?  system freezed randomly ?
[22:51] <Walex> TuxProbe: you may have found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:51] <VlanZ> Bennn: it's all the week i'm fighting with this, but maybe the last upgrades did solve this
[22:51] <ikonia> you can't say that
[22:52] <ikonia> you have no idea what his problem is, or how other issues are effecting his hardware
[22:52] <ikonia> "I had a freeze and an upgrade fixed it" means nothing to someone who is having applications crash
[22:52] <VlanZ> Walex: so you would suggest anybody to set the "vm.dirty_bytes" value properly?
[22:53] <Redi> Please, Im so close from buying the title I need to know If I will be able to reinstall them every time I update to new release :D
[22:53] <Walex> VlanZ: absolutely yes. the traditional default is to set 'vm.dirty_ratio' as a percentage of memory, and that is insane, especially with ever larger memory
[22:53] <zergs> the sun omg
[22:53] <TuxProbe> walex yea, no dice
[22:53] <VlanZ> Walex: lol wtf... i have 16GB  that's why!
[22:53] <Walex> VlanZ: again, on laptops in power saving mode with low write rates
[22:53] <Walex> VlanZ: again, on laptops in power saving mode with low write rates more buffering helpd.
[22:54] <bekks> Walex: So having 16GB RAM, what would you suggest to set vm.dirty_bytes to?
[22:54] <Walex> bekks: the size of RAM is irrelevant, what matters is the amount of data you can have "in flight", and that depends on the "relevant" IO rate.
[22:54] <TuxProbe> walex whatever.. i need to reinstall again once i get my ssd refurbished.. problems started once i ran distupgrade on an old 10.04 replacement hdd
[22:54] <bekks> Walex: So what do you mean by "in flight"?
[22:55] <VlanZ> Walex: and how do i determine that?
[22:55] <Walex> bekks: between memory and persistent storage.
[22:56] <bekks> Walex: The amount of data is about 12-16GB, when dealing with vms. :)
[22:56] <Walex> bekks: my usual rule is not to have "in flight" more than 1second of relevant IO rate, so for most desktop/laptop setups I would set in memory caching to more than 100MB.
[22:56] <Walex> bekks: oops, "write buffering" not "caching".
[22:57] <VlanZ> Walex: sorry my lack of knowledge, but where is this value stored?
[22:57] <bekks> Walex: Ok, so I have to determine how much data could be written down in one second?
[22:57] <Walex> VlanZ: google, google ('sysctl', '/proc/sys/')
[22:57] <Walex> bekks: more or less yes.
[22:57] <bekks> Walex: Ok :)
[22:58] <Walex> bekks:  it essentially depends on how many disks you have active at any one time.
[22:58] <Walex> bekks: I woluld not leave unwritten more than around 1s of data per disk, and even that is a bit much.
[22:59] <VlanZ> Walex:  /proc/sys/vm/dirty_bytes  is set to 0
[22:59] <VlanZ> is that normal?
[22:59] <Walex> VlanZ: that's because it is a new setting, and by default the system uses 'dirty_ratio', which is a memory percentage, and that's way too high.
[23:00] <VlanZ> Walex:  great, i got it
[23:00] <Walex> VlanZ:  if you set 'dirty_bytes', then 'dirty_ratio' becomes zero. It is a very poorly and stupidly designed interface.
[23:01] <Walex> VlanZ:  and the original idea that amount of unwritten data should be a percentage of available memory was also very silly.
[23:02] <Walex> http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/0707jul.html#070701
[23:02] <Guest22089> hey
[23:02] <Guest22089> guys
[23:03] <Walex> http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/anno05-4th.html#051105 but 'dirty_background_*' should be left high
[23:03] <VlanZ> Walex: so i have to change both?
[23:03] <Walex> VlanZ:only 'dirty_bytes; then 'dirty_ratio' is disabled.
[23:04] <Guest22089> i got this issue that's been bothering me for a minute. I have this project i'm suppose to test on my ubuntu apache server, once I copy the files over to the /var/www/www every link gives me a funny The requested URL /www/home/aboutus was not found on this server.
[23:04] <Walex> http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/12-thr.html#120609
[23:04] <VlanZ> Walex: dirty ratio is now set to 10... it means it's using 1.6GB of RAM before committing writes to the HDDs?
[23:04] <Guest22089> i've had same issue on centos
[23:04] <Guest22089> fixed by Allowoveride ALL
[23:05] <Walex> Guest22089: you probably want to learn the differenxce between the local part of a URL and the file pathname corresponding to it.
[23:05] <Walex> VlanZ:  yes, indeed.
[23:05] <VlanZ> Walex: sorry i didn't got that the link were for me
[23:05] <gyre008> is anyone noticing that ntp.org is flapping ??
[23:06] <Walex> VlanZ: especially with some elevators writing 1.6GiB at a time can completely freeze the machine for all other processes.
[23:06] <Sidney__> How canI get x server back up http://pastebin.com/NGzixHiD
[23:06] <Walex> VlanZ: another thing that probably is worth doing is making the flusher run more frequently.
[23:06] <Guest22089> Walex I know the path to the project is /var/www/projectx. and that's the same I use in browser, however browser wants to literally go to pathname. Instead of php framework
[23:07] <gry> Guest22089, try opening http://localhost ?
[23:07] <VlanZ> Walex: but i think that what you want to do is based on your needs... in my case i'm running virtual machines onto an SSD, i think that matters, right?
[23:07] <Guest22089> localhost works gry I got passed that.
[23:07] <Walex> Guest22089: you really need to learn how those mapping work, it is a pretty basic aspect of making web services work.
[23:08] <Walex> VlanZ: if you know better, go ahead :-)
[23:08] <Guest22089> Walex any links to help educate me?
[23:08] <Walex> Guest22089: the sections on 'Alias' and 'DocumentRoot' in the Apache docs.
[23:08] <VlanZ> Walex: nono you got it wrong! i'm here doing exactly what you're telling me to do!  but i wanted to tell you what i'm expecting to do with this machine
[23:09] <VlanZ> Walex: in your opinion, having multiple VM running on my system, it is better to have the RAM to flush more often?
[23:10] <Walex> VlanZ: things with SSDs and VMs and high performance are far more complicated than can be discussed on IRC, and depend on the IO workload of the apps running in the VMs.
[23:10] <Walex> VlanZ: I think that unless one has a very special case, having little unwritten data is always a good idea, including VMs and SSDs.
[23:11] <VlanZ> Walex: yeah you're right... how about i lower te value to 500-700 MB?  still to much?
[23:12] <KRomeleoN> im having trouble getting my secondary hd to auto mount in ubuntu at boot. i am going into Disks and changing mount options and selecting auto mount options to off
[23:12] <KRomeleoN> but it fails to mount and gives an error
[23:13] <gry> mentioning error message here could help others understand what's happening
[23:13] <KRomeleoN> if i switch back to auto, i can mount it manually after the system boots
[23:13] <KRomeleoN> it doesnt givre an error, it just says failed to mount press S to skip
[23:13] <Walex> KRomeleoN: there are three cases, not two: mount statically/at boot, automount, don't automount.
[23:14] <KRomeleoN> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda1: Command-line `mount "/mnt/8d470de1-7bd7-4a49-b130-d610b82d4402"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[23:14] <KRomeleoN>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[23:14] <KRomeleoN>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:14] <KRomeleoN>        dmesg | tail  or so
[23:14] <KRomeleoN>  (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[23:14] <FloodBot1> KRomeleoN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <Walex> VlanZ: I think that depends on your IO. But if you have a couple of SSDs and they are not "fragmented" it can write 400-500MB in 1s and that could be OK.
[23:15] <Walex> VlanZ: but it also depends on whether you have battery backup, whether your IO subsystem and VM subsystem support barriers, and a number of other details.
[23:15] <KRomeleoN> http://pastebin.com/JX8q0xhi  <---- i get thiserror when i turn off auto mount
[23:16] <KRomeleoN> nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show is selected
[23:16] <VlanZ> Walex: i don't think that fragmentation on any SSD is a big deal due to the very fast time to access the data. So if i want to change the dirty_bites file, do i have to set the value in bytes? or what?
[23:16] <Walex> KRomeleoN: it depends on the filesystem type.
[23:16] <KRomeleoN> ext4 on all drives
[23:17] <Walex> VlanZ: the problem with SSDs is erase block fragemntation, something that 'discard'/TRIM/FSTRIM is supposed to help a lot with, plus overprovisioning.
[23:17] <KRomeleoN> its annoying cuz i have mp3s on the second drive, i go to play it in audacious and it errors cuz its not mounted, i have to manually mount it every time
[23:17] <Guest22089> Walex why would I want to create aliases if the previous setup didn't have any?
[23:18] <Walex> Guest22089: 'DocumentRoot' is a form of 'Alias'.
[23:18] <KRomeleoN> Walex, any ideas?
[23:18] <Walex> Guest22089: the general idea is that the local port of a URL can be and usually is completely different from the filesystem path.
[23:18] <VlanZ> Walex: so i shouldnt be lowering the dirty_ratio too much while having SSD's ?
[23:19] <Guest22089> Walex correct at least that's what I got from the reading
[23:19] <Guest22089> I just modified my root
[23:19] <Walex> VlanZ: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/12-one.html#120115
[23:20] <Walex> Guest22089: the tradition for simple cases is that '/var/www/' is aliased/mapped to '/'
[23:20] <voidmain_> Hi all, would anyone kindly look at this problem and please tell me what I could do about it...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061233
[23:21] <Guest22089> I have '/var/www/www' mapped to /
[23:21] <juancabrito> please help I was updating ubuntu and I'm getting a window asking where to install grub but now I get " writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue?"
[23:21] <Walex> Guest22089: so 'http://www.example.com/about.html' usually maps to '/var/www/about.html' or something similar
[23:21] <Guest22089> yes changing the document root did it
[23:23] <Guest22089> Walex thx for the direction
[23:23] <Walex> ok ok goodnight everybody....
[23:24] <a7i3n> Hello all
[23:25] <folorn> anyone know tor and how to use it well could you msg me please.?
[23:25] <VlanZ> Walex: sorry, i still dont get it; i know that an SSD is not meant for sustaining too much writes, but i don't get how this is correlated with the requency of the writes...
[23:26] <a7i3n> forlorn > you can download the browser package here:https://www.torproject.org/
[23:26] <a7i3n> Just follow the linux install notes
[23:27] <eamon> noob question: Where can I get a Kubuntu Live-CD? I can only see install CDs on the downlad page - can I boot live with those?
[23:32] <WeThePeople> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu and keep all the apps and files on the hdd
[23:32] <ikonia> no
[23:33] <Sidney__> Failed to load module "nv" Is this an Nvidia driver?
[23:33] <ikonia> you can back them up to a file system outside the re-install
[23:33] <ikonia> Sidney__: it is the opensource one
[23:34] <folorn> hmm
[23:34] <Sidney__> ikonia, that is not the same as nvidia current or is it?
[23:34] <ikonia> no
[23:35] <Sidney__> every site i check tries to direct me to install nvidia current
[23:36] <WeThePeople> ikonia, is it possible to use aptoncd in tty
[23:36] <ddtge> what image viewer support animated sideshow?
[23:36] <ikonia> WeThePeople: I've not used it for a long time, I believe so, but wouldn't bet my house on it
[23:37] <stepnjump> Could someone help me please? I can no longer download the updates from ubuntu servers
[23:37] <pomeisl> where is heroes squer?
[23:37] <ikonia> pomeisl: what ?
[23:37] <ikonia> stepnjump: you need to explain the issue
[23:38] <dvolker> gnome-screensaver-command --deactivate will dismiss a locked screensaver without password prompt which means that if you can get access to someones unlocked desktop for just a second you could sneak the command into their cron to unlock their machine when they're not around.
[23:39] <ikonia> dvolker: why are you telling us this ?
[23:40] <zykotick9> ikonia: isn't nv basically deprecated in favour of nouveau?  Sidney__
[23:40] <pomeisl> i would like some "powered by" ubuntu sticker. what should i do? where can i ask my question?
[23:40] <ohmygoddess> Hello,
[23:40] <ikonia> zykotick9: nv is the kernel module for noueau still I think
[23:41] <pomeisl> i use 24.04
[23:41] <pomeisl> 12
[23:41] <zykotick9> ikonia: i don't believe so...??? i could be wrong.
[23:41] <ikonia> pomeisl: contact a sticker maker, it's not really something this channel can deal with
[23:41] <ikonia> zykotick9: I'm not %100 myself
[23:41] <ohmygoddess> tab completion for my ubuntu 10.04LTS doesn't work
[23:41] <dvolker> ikonia, not sure who to tell i guess
[23:41] <dawgb0ne> anyone had experience with installing catalyst for radeon video card ?
[23:41] <zykotick9> ikonia: nouveau is a kernel module i believe.  nv is the old xorg driver.
[23:41] <ikonia> dvolker: log a securirty bug
[23:41] <dvolker> was hoping someone could say "yeah, do this instead"
[23:41] <ohmygoddess> I enabled ~/etc/bash.bashrc
[23:42] <juancabrito> please help I was updating ubuntu and I'm getting a window asking where to install grub but now I get " writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue?"
[23:42] <ikonia> zykotick9: nv is the old xorg driver, but I thought it was still the name of the kernel module for nouveau, I'n not %100 though
[23:42] <ohmygoddess> but command line still cannot complete by TAB, anyone can help me?
[23:42] <pomeisl> channal name is ubuntu. thanks for the help that does not exist.
[23:43] <ikonia> pomeisl: channel name is ubuntu support, not sticker help
[23:43] <ikonia> pomeisl: you can see the links in the channels topics for info on what the channel is used for
[23:43] <pomeisl> yes, i do
[23:44] <pomeisl> if you do not help me, i have nothing to say.
[23:44] <pomeisl> thank you
[23:44] <ikonia> welcome
[23:45] <pomeisl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZ4C3k0Z4U
[23:45] <ikonia> pomeisl: we don't need that in this channel
[23:45] <ikonia> pomeisl: it's a technical support channel
[23:45] <ikonia> please keep non-technical support about ubuntu out of the channel
[23:45] <KRomeleoN> but its timmy lol
[23:45] <ikonia> it is not needed or on topic for this channel
[23:46] <stepnjump> ikonia, here is what the problem is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061233
[23:46] <VlanZ> i think my USB2.0 controller have disconnected because of a faulty peripheral or driver; how can i reset it without rebooting the whole system?
[23:46] <stepnjump> if you could kindly have a look, I would appreciate it a lot!
[23:47] <ikonia> stepnjump: the problem is those files are no longer on that server
[23:47] <ikonia> stepnjump: if you check the manually you see they no longer exist
[23:48] <pomeisl> magis movent exampla, quam verba
[23:48] <ikonia> pomeisl: the channels language is english only
[23:48] <ikonia> pomeisl: this will be your final warning for not following the channels guidelines
[23:48] <stepnjump> ikonia, why is it then that I cannot update from ubuntu?
[23:48] <cromag> Could anyone throw me a guide to a compiling lftp with socks5 support, and maybe even what socks proxy used. - That would be greatly appriciated :)
[23:49] <ikonia> stepnjump: because the files do not exist on that server - if you check them manually you will see they are not there, so therefore how can you expect ubuntu to update from a server without the files being on the server
[23:49] <Guest22089> ikonia what are those rules
[23:49] <ikonia> Guest22089: read the links in the channels topic
[23:50] <pomeisl> serum auxilium post proelium
[23:51] <Richard_Cavell> Can anyone confirm for me that 12.04 32-bit Ubuntu has avrdude available?
[23:52] <niargh> Is there a kernel that will fix the Asus CM6870-US-3AB freezes for 12.04.1?
[23:52] <ikonia> !info avrdude
[23:52] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: there you go
[23:53] <Richard_Cavell> woohoo
[23:55] <Richard_Cavell> Now is it possible for me to run the 12.04 distro from a USB stick, and install and run avrdude, even though it's not installed on my harddisk?
[23:56] <zodiak> niargh, freezes ?!
[23:57] <niargh> zodiak: yep, now that I added a video card. but doesn't even complete setup if I use on-board video
[23:57] <zodiak> niargh, have you read the long thread about this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/999910
[23:58] <karni> I want to subit a bug report, but ubuntu-bug claims there's no nm nor nm-applet package
[23:58] <stepnjump> ikonia, wellwhat happens is that NOTHING updates...the update shuts off automatically
[23:58] <karni> What should I type in to report a bug about network manager applet?
[23:58] <pentagon> ~~WHy is wodim looking for a toc when i do -clone *iso*
[23:59] <ikonia> stepnjump: yes because the files it wants to use are NOT THERE
[23:59] <karni> It says my wifi device is not ready. It clearly is working ;)
[23:59] <pentagon> I am trying to burn an iso
[23:59] <pentagon> I want it to be an exact copy so i put -clone
[23:59] <ikonia> stepnjump: this isn't hard to grasp, for an update to happen, the files have to be on the server to get queried, if the files are not there as I've told you 3 times, it CAN'T update