| * Kilos waves | 05:45 | |
| Kilos | morning all what does this mean?? | 07:47 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | (gedit:8069): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: Missing callback called fullpath = /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel | 07:48 |
| Kilos | thats why my sound doesnt work on xchat on 12.04 with mate im sure | 07:55 |
| Kilos | i ran sudo gedit /home/miles/.xchat2/sounds | 07:56 |
| Kilos | to get that warning | 07:56 |
| Kilos | that sound file is empty on other pc as well where xchat sound works | 08:02 |
| Kilos | yo Ludo | 08:43 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| charlvn | good morning | 10:44 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 10:45 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 10:45 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn! | 10:49 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks | 10:59 |
| Maaz | charlvn: Okay :-) | 10:59 |
| charlvn | http://youtu.be/eJaaMzTjFC8 <- ha ha ha! | 11:00 |
| kodez | greetings everyone | 12:31 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Vince-0 | Sup | 13:00 |
| charlvn | hi Vince-0 | 13:02 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| === Cantide is now known as CanShower | ||
| === CanShower is now known as Cantide | ||
| smile | Johannesburg – Meer as 200 motoriste is die afgelope naweek in Gauteng in hegtenis geneem vir dronkbestuur, het die provinsiale verkeerspolisie Sondag gesê. :o | 17:00 |
| smile | That's a lot :p | 17:00 |
| inetpro | damn! | 17:05 |
| smile | ;) | 17:06 |
| * inetpro 's ubuntu-za membership has expired | 17:08 | |
| smile | :o | 17:08 |
| * smile kicks inetpro out | 17:08 | |
| inetpro | eish! | 17:08 |
| smile | I won't do that. :) You are too friendly :p | 17:08 |
| tumbleweed | you should get e-mail a week before it expires | 17:08 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I think I got exactly one email, which was yesterday | 17:09 |
| inetpro | but let me check | 17:09 |
| inetpro | I could have missed it | 17:09 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 17:09 |
| Kerbero | is that the ubuntu-za loco? | 17:09 |
| Kerbero | or mailing list | 17:10 |
| inetpro | actually I got a message a day since Sunday | 17:10 |
| tumbleweed | anyway, I'm not an admin, so can't help :) | 17:11 |
| inetpro | but I missed them all due to a rule which moves launchpad mails to another folder | 17:11 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: yes the loco membership on launchpad | 17:11 |
| Kerbero | ahh ok | 17:11 |
| inetpro | so tumbleweed, who do I talk to? | 17:11 |
| tumbleweed | oh, it's an open team, you can just re-join :) | 17:11 |
| Kerbero | i never got mail like that | 17:11 |
| inetpro | ah | 17:11 |
| inetpro | I'm not sure whether it's even necessary to be a member these days | 17:12 |
| tumbleweed | it doesn't do anything except add a flag to your page, no | 17:13 |
| * inetpro successfully re-joined South African Ubuntu team at a click of a button | 17:14 | |
| tumbleweed | do you feel patriotic? :) | 17:15 |
| inetpro | feels like rebooting a server with a long uptime | 17:15 |
| Kerbero | aww | 17:15 |
| Kerbero | define long | 17:15 |
| inetpro | Kerbero: hmm... like 1149 days? | 17:17 |
| Kerbero | o wow | 17:18 |
| Kerbero | ok | 17:18 |
| inetpro | actually my memberships went much further than that | 17:19 |
| inetpro | membership | 17:19 |
| inetpro | anyway /me wbb | 17:19 |
| inetpro | dinner time | 17:19 |
| Kilos | guten abend | 17:42 |
| smile | Schönen guten Abend, Kilos | 17:44 |
| smile | :) | 17:44 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 17:44 |
| Kilos | hehe you sleep inna wool | 17:44 |
| Kilos | schlafen sie wol | 17:44 |
| Kilos | something like that | 17:44 |
| smile | lol. :P | 17:44 |
| smile | your german is at the same level as mine is ;) | 17:45 |
| Kilos | long time no see charlvn | 17:45 |
| smile | :P | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hey smile | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:45 |
| smile | big hug for Uncle Kilos :) | 17:45 |
| Kilos | aw ty smile | 17:45 |
| smile | yw :) | 17:45 |
| Kilos | had a bad head day so slept most of it away | 17:46 |
| Kilos | the day not the head | 17:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:46 |
| charlvn | funny i was just watching a video about how germany is taking over the economy | 17:47 |
| charlvn | :) | 17:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:47 |
| charlvn | yes long time no speak to, how's it going Kilos ? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | ok ty charlvn why you been so scsrce?? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | hope you well | 17:48 |
| Kilos | evening superfly | 17:48 |
| charlvn | just been busy | 17:48 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 17:48 |
| charlvn | i have been moving into a new apartment in the middle of the city | 17:48 |
| Kilos | hows things there SubOracle ? | 17:48 |
| charlvn | so i have been painting, drilling holes, hanging up curtains | 17:48 |
| Kilos | family and your health wise | 17:49 |
| charlvn | i also still have a piece of floor to do, i need to put a mat right at the entrance | 17:49 |
| Kilos | ah thats nice c har, closer to work? | 17:49 |
| Kilos | whew ChanServ | 17:49 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:49 |
| Kilos | charlvn, | 17:49 |
| smile | charlvn: when your apartment is done, you will organise a party? :D | 17:50 |
| charlvn | smile: i actually want to invite a few people over and eat some cake but i'm not a person for real parties | 17:50 |
| smile | me neither :) | 17:50 |
| charlvn | smile: particularly for the people who helped me moving stuff around and who gave me some furniture | 17:50 |
| charlvn | Kilos: not really much closer to work, about the same distance | 17:51 |
| Kilos | better place?? | 17:51 |
| smile | charlvn: that's very kind :) | 17:51 |
| charlvn | Kilos: where i used to live was a really old building and i shared an apartment with a few other people | 17:51 |
| Kilos | ah i see | 17:52 |
| charlvn | Kilos: this is a more modern facility and i can live here on my own :) | 17:52 |
| Kilos | well hope you happier now | 17:52 |
| smile | :DD | 17:52 |
| Kilos | maybe you wont be so scarce then | 17:52 |
| charlvn | Kilos: no i will be on more from now on, the summer is over now and it's already getting colder so i will be spending a lot more time online | 17:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:53 |
| charlvn | Kilos: you always see that in the european hacker scene, when it's summer there is relatively little going on, but in the winter there is a lot of activity | 17:53 |
| charlvn | Kilos: mainly because everyone is indoors and doing interesting stuff with computers etc instead of doing stuff outside like in the summer | 17:53 |
| Kilos | our summer just starting. hadda coupla days of 30°c then cold again | 17:53 |
| charlvn | yeah here we also still get some mixed weather although it seems like the heat is about gone now | 17:54 |
| charlvn | we had a terribly hot summer | 17:54 |
| charlvn | smile: by the way, i discovered an interesting thing today, bier central also had la trappe which is actually a dutch beer | 17:57 |
| charlvn | smile: NL is not exactly known for producing good beer so for some reason i always assumed it was a belgian beer | 17:58 |
| charlvn | smile: only discovered it's a dutch beer today :) | 17:58 |
| smile | La trappe is the only trappist | 17:58 |
| smile | in NL | 17:58 |
| smile | all other trappists are made in Belgium :) | 17:59 |
| charlvn | yeah i'm sure | 18:04 |
| charlvn | like i said, NL is not exactly known for producing good beer ;) | 18:04 |
| smile | Yeah.. ;) | 18:04 |
| smile | They stole our code o.O | 18:04 |
| * smile steels it back | 18:05 | |
| charlvn | there is another exception though: http://www.hertogjan.nl/ | 18:06 |
| charlvn | it's expensive but very good | 18:06 |
| smile | :) | 18:06 |
| smile | I have heard about it, but never tasted it :p | 18:06 |
| charlvn | the other beer i like to drink is duvel, you can buy it about everywhere in NL but it's a belgian beer | 18:07 |
| smile | :D | 18:07 |
| charlvn | there is also stella artois but i don't like it at all | 18:07 |
| charlvn | the other beers i like to drink are german beers but they are sometimes a bit hard to buy in NL | 18:07 |
| charlvn | fortunately i live close to the german border so i just go and buy them in germany :) | 18:08 |
| smile | lol :) | 18:08 |
| smile | do you live in drenthe? | 18:08 |
| charlvn | like erdinger, krombacher, bitburger, etc | 18:08 |
| charlvn | noe | 18:08 |
| charlvn | *nope | 18:08 |
| smile | in which province do you live, charlvn ? :) | 18:09 |
| charlvn | i especially like weissbrau or hefeweissen | 18:09 |
| charlvn | smile: overijssel | 18:09 |
| smile | oke :D | 18:09 |
| smile | Just under Drenthe | 18:09 |
| smile | :p | 18:09 |
| charlvn | yup | 18:09 |
| smile | My guess wasn't that bad :p | 18:10 |
| charlvn | nope pretty good actually :) | 18:10 |
| smile | :) | 18:11 |
| smile | I was in Drenthe a few weeks ago | 18:11 |
| charlvn | i have actually never been to drenthe, i don't normally go to the north of the country | 18:12 |
| charlvn | i get to holland every so frequently though | 18:12 |
| charlvn | i have family who live there | 18:12 |
| smile | :D | 18:13 |
| smile | I would like to visit all places in Europe | 18:14 |
| smile | :) | 18:14 |
| charlvn | i don't even try :P | 18:14 |
| smile | But I'll have a http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handelsreizigersprobleem .. ;) | 18:14 |
| charlvn | but i really do want to make it to some hacker camp or something this year | 18:15 |
| smile | ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem ) | 18:15 |
| charlvn | last year i just got too busy / lazy | 18:15 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:15 |
| smile | good luck :DD | 18:15 |
| charlvn | haha | 18:15 |
| charlvn | are you planning on attending anything? | 18:15 |
| smile | Not yet :) vague plans to meet someone in October | 18:16 |
| charlvn | ok | 18:16 |
| smile | (while studying, of course xD ) | 18:16 |
| charlvn | if you hear of something interesting lemme know | 18:16 |
| smile | Of course I will :) | 18:16 |
| charlvn | i thought of maybe even doing chaos communication congress this year | 18:16 |
| charlvn | although last year there wasn't too much interesting | 18:16 |
| charlvn | it's in berlin i think though so i will need to book accommodation early | 18:16 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 18:17 |
| charlvn | because it's in a holiday season time of year too | 18:17 |
| smile | o :( | 18:17 |
| charlvn | hi magespawn | 18:17 |
| charlvn | brb | 18:17 |
| Kerbero | "...and back to Hamburg in 2012" | 18:25 |
| Kerbero | ie, not berlin this year | 18:25 |
| magespawn | is that a good thing? | 18:25 |
| Kerbero | closer to charlvn | 18:26 |
| magespawn | i see, wish some of them were closer to me to | 18:26 |
| smile | good night, everyone :) | 18:27 |
| Kerbero | totsiens | 18:27 |
| magespawn | we have a few of that sort of thing in south africa | 18:27 |
| magespawn | later smile | 18:27 |
| Kerbero | pycon in a few days | 18:27 |
| smile | see ya, Kerbero and magespawn :) | 18:28 |
| smile | bye, charlvn | 18:28 |
| charlvn | back | 18:33 |
| charlvn | Kerbero: ah that is very good news | 18:34 |
| Kerbero | too bad i did not know about it last year | 18:35 |
| Kerbero | otherwise i would've gone | 18:35 |
| charlvn | ok maybe i should really make an effort then this year | 18:35 |
| charlvn | i would like to see the programme up front though | 18:35 |
| charlvn | because last year's talks i thought was quite disappointing | 18:36 |
| charlvn | they had some interesting stuff about tor though | 18:36 |
| magespawn | now pycon would be something to go to | 18:41 |
| charlvn | i also like python but not enough to attend a whole conference just about it :) | 18:43 |
| magespawn | only two days | 18:43 |
| charlvn | http://za.pycon.org/ | 18:43 |
| charlvn | i see praekelt is also a sponsor | 18:43 |
| charlvn | a good set of sponsors | 18:44 |
| magespawn | you get free stuff at cons | 18:44 |
| charlvn | lol is that your only reason for going? :) | 18:45 |
| charlvn | this does look interesting though: http://za.pycon.org/speaker/29/detail.html | 18:45 |
| magespawn | no good place to learn things | 18:45 |
| charlvn | i tend to get a feeling that most conferences are too far behind the cutting edge | 18:45 |
| charlvn | i went to oscon in 2010 and wasn't too impressed | 18:46 |
| charlvn | i picked up a few interesting things | 18:46 |
| charlvn | but most of it was pretty old stuff | 18:46 |
| charlvn | too much too quickly too | 18:46 |
| magespawn | besides this is cape town, would be good to visit | 18:48 |
| charlvn | it's a nice chance to meet people | 18:50 |
| charlvn | and cape town is always a nice place to visit for a few days | 18:50 |
| magespawn | have friends there i have not seen for years and new ones i have not met face to face yet. | 18:51 |
| charlvn | what are you still waiting for :) | 18:52 |
| magespawn | need time and money | 18:58 |
| magespawn | there was a discussion aboit moving there a one stage | 18:58 |
| inetpro | good night | 19:02 |
| magespawn | besides for now my place is here | 19:02 |
| * inetpro falling asleep | 19:02 | |
| magespawn | good night inetpro | 19:02 |
| charlvn | night inetpro | 19:06 |
| magespawn | i would really like to go one of those security type con, and the ones in the states always seem well organised | 19:09 |
| magespawn | Def Con thats the one | 19:12 |
| magespawn | bit sun baked today forgot hates and sunscreen | 19:12 |
| * magespawn looks like a well done lobster | 19:13 | |
| charlvn | there is also shmoocon, defcon, and a variety of others | 19:18 |
| charlvn | hak5 often goes to some of them | 19:18 |
| charlvn | blackhat i mean | 19:18 |
| charlvn | in europe it's mainly ccc which is very good | 19:18 |
| charlvn | but after a few years of some excellent research i feel last year was a let-down | 19:19 |
| charlvn | the ccc has a lot of events though and they are typically worth attending | 19:19 |
| charlvn | camps, conferences, etc | 19:19 |
| charlvn | there is also the linuxbierwanderung | 19:20 |
| magespawn | when rich will come to europe for a whole year of nothing but cons | 19:28 |
| magespawn | later all | 19:39 |
| charlvn | ciao | 19:39 |
| Kilos | wow you guys been busy hey | 20:07 |
| Kilos | superfly, is 12.04 kubuntu stable and does nm work properly? | 20:08 |
| superfly | hasn't ever given me problems | 20:08 |
| Kilos | im thinkinf of getting it with night surfer data if i can stay awake | 20:08 |
| Kilos | ya but you fix things easy man | 20:09 |
| Kilos | does it work without fixes i mean | 20:09 |
| Kilos | superfly, you just install and it works? | 20:09 |
| superfly | yup, that was my experience | 20:10 |
| Kilos | and where do i find nm on it | 20:10 |
| Kilos | good then ill give it a go methinks | 20:10 |
| superfly | it is in your tray area | 20:10 |
| Kilos | ah good ty | 20:10 |
| Kilos | inetpro, lewe jy nog | 20:10 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google where to download kubuntu iso | 20:12 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download :: "Get Kubuntu | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu :: "Kubuntu 11.04 Released | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release :: "Kubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx)" http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.04/ :: "Kubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope)" http://old- | 20:12 |
| Maaz | releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/9.04/ :: "Kubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)" http://releases.ubuntu.com/… | 20:12 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google where to download kubuntu 12.04 iso | 20:13 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download :: "Kubuntu 12.04 LTS | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release :: "Kubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (Precise Pangolin)" http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ :: "Kubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Daily Build" http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ :: | 20:13 |
| Maaz | "kubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso (download torrent) - TPB" http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7218540/… | 20:13 |
| superfly | Kilos: do you want a live cd, or an alternate installer cd? | 20:15 |
| Kilos | live cd i think | 20:15 |
| Kilos | clean install but not deleting home | 20:15 |
| Kilos | too many email addies and settings to sort from scratch again | 20:16 |
| superfly | Kilos: 32 or 64 bit? | 20:16 |
| Kilos | 32 superfly | 20:16 |
| Kilos | as long as i can find a terminal ill get by i think | 20:16 |
| Kilos | ian cant get his nm going onna lappy with kde 12.04 | 20:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's easy to find the terminal :-) | 20:17 |
| Kilos | so better i install so i know what he is looking at | 20:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: Kubuntu uses the KDE version of Network Manager | 20:17 |
| Kilos | yes but is it just a little icon somewhere? | 20:18 |
| Kilos | right click setup? | 20:18 |
| Kilos | terminal on gnome is ctrl+alt+t | 20:18 |
| Kilos | is kde different | 20:19 |
| superfly | Kilos: KDE is not Gnome, so KDE is different. | 20:20 |
| Kilos | hehe so what keys please superfly | 20:20 |
| Kilos | ill write it down | 20:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: what do you mean, what keys? you go to Konsole in your menu | 20:20 |
| Kilos | oh is that like applications | 20:21 |
| Kilos | shortcut keys to open a terminal | 20:21 |
| Kilos | and can i have lotsa workspaces | 20:22 |
| Kerbero | Kilos: i can help you with your network again tomorrow | 20:22 |
| Kerbero | if you are going to reinstall, please do not use firestarter again | 20:22 |
| Kilos | good ty Kerbero | 20:22 |
| Kerbero | i was a bit busy the past few days | 20:22 |
| Kilos | ok i got arnos yesterday but didnt work either | 20:22 |
| superfly | Kilos: I think that's because you have too much other junk installed | 20:23 |
| Kerbero | gui programs to manage the firewall just doesn't work as well as doing it by hand | 20:23 |
| Kilos | ah ok then Kerbero ty for offering. ill give you a shout once setup | 20:24 |
| Kerbero | ok | 20:24 |
| Kilos | last setup crashed nm completely | 20:24 |
| Kilos | on booting next morning nm was gone | 20:24 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:24 |
| superfly | Kerbero: I don't know if you've ever used Arno's but it's a service, and it really simplifies firewall management | 20:24 |
| Kilos | ive told you guys. murphy lives here | 20:24 |
| superfly | it's nice and light, doesn't do more than what it needs to | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | superfly: no i havn't used arnos | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | but i did have a look at firestarter | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | and some other ones | 20:25 |
| Kilos | superfly, why you asked all the info about 32 and 64 bit? | 20:25 |
| superfly | Kilos: was trying to find you a decent download link | 20:25 |
| Kilos | oh ty | 20:26 |
| superfly | Kilos: but mirror.ac.za is hopelessly out of date at the moment | 20:26 |
| Kilos | uh oh | 20:26 |
| Kilos | shout at symmetria | 20:26 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, ping | 20:26 |
| Kerbero | symm said last time to use ufs' mirror | 20:26 |
| Kerbero | better management there | 20:27 |
| superfly | lets see if I Can find a link | 20:27 |
| superfly | nope, modern releases of Kubuntu are only available on the international mirror: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/kubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso | 20:29 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 20:30 |
| Kilos | can one wget it? | 20:30 |
| Kilos | or better to go there | 20:30 |
| superfly | Kilos: you can wget that link I pasted | 20:31 |
| Kilos | great ty superfly | 20:31 |
| Kerbero | superfly: arno's firewall script does the same thing that i do not like of the other tools too | 20:32 |
| Kerbero | locking down the machine | 20:32 |
| Kerbero | it is not a bad thing | 20:32 |
| Kerbero | but i don't like it if something do that without me specifically telling it to | 20:32 |
| superfly | Kerbero: you mean doing what a firewall is supposed to do? :-P | 20:32 |
| Kerbero | superfly: doing what a windows firewall does | 20:33 |
| Kerbero | if the port is not open on your computer, why firewall it? | 20:33 |
| Kerbero | especially if it is a home PC | 20:33 |
| superfly | *nod* | 20:33 |
| Kerbero | if it is a server on routable open internet fine | 20:33 |
| Kerbero | but home pc no | 20:33 |
| superfly | for me, the machine running the firewall is on a routable open internet connection - i have a web server on there | 20:34 |
| Kerbero | in kilos' case it is anyway only one rule he needs to do the masquerading | 20:34 |
| Kerbero | webserver yes, firewall and run ssh on not-port-22 | 20:36 |
| superfly | yar | 20:36 |
| Kerbero | o and then one also runs fail2ban | 20:36 |
| Kerbero | hehe | 20:36 |
| Kilos | lol Kerbero work it all out lekker | 20:36 |
| Kilos | Kerbero, ill run a clean system with no other things installed. hope you know kubuntu | 20:36 |
| Kerbero | superfly: i know you don't like webmin, but i find webmin's iptables interface is very nice | 20:37 |
| Kerbero | the clearest one i have seen | 20:37 |
| Kerbero | what we do on a vps on open internet is to start the webmin service only when we need it | 20:37 |
| superfly | Kilos: well, like Kerbero said, there's really only one rule you need to know | 20:37 |
| Kerbero | and of course it also runs on a non default port | 20:37 |
| Kerbero | Kilos: kubuntu doesn't matter | 20:38 |
| Kerbero | the terminal works the same everywhere | 20:38 |
| Kilos | ah we use cli anyway hey | 20:38 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:38 |
| Kilos | you type too fast for me | 20:38 |
| Kerbero | :) | 20:38 |
| Kerbero | IRC taught me how to type faster | 20:39 |
| Kilos | i installed 12.04 5 times yesterday and last night to get nm to at least show mobile broadband | 20:39 |
| Kerbero | :( | 20:39 |
| Kerbero | you installed it with the 3g modem unplugged right? | 20:40 |
| Kilos | yeah painful after a install not being able to update even | 20:40 |
| Kilos | couldnt even install sakis3g because you gotta wget it | 20:40 |
| Tonberry | ever thought of getting a dedicated 3g router? | 20:40 |
| Kerbero | ^very good idea | 20:41 |
| Kilos | price Tonberry ? | 20:41 |
| Kerbero | <R1k | 20:41 |
| Kilos | also then need another network cable | 20:41 |
| Kilos | a thousand bucks? | 20:41 |
| Kerbero | yeah :( | 20:42 |
| Kilos | thats a years data for me | 20:42 |
| Kerbero | yes i think you are better of doing it with your PC now | 20:42 |
| Kilos | ya i think so | 20:42 |
| Kilos | its a waste for 2 pcs with limited cap | 20:43 |
| Kilos | superfly, sorry to bug what sight do you update upgrade from if our mirror is outa date | 20:46 |
| Kilos | site | 20:48 |
| superfly | Kilos: I don't know, Kubuntu just picks up a decent mirror | 20:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:55 |
| Kilos | ok | 20:55 |
| Kilos | wget rocking, hold thumbs for me | 20:58 |
| Kilos | first iso download | 20:59 |
| Kilos | 5 secs per meg | 20:59 |
| Kilos | whew long way to go | 20:59 |
| Kerbero | not bad | 20:59 |
| Kilos | im doing it from maverick | 21:00 |
| Kilos | i still trust 10.10 | 21:00 |
| Kerbero | +1 | 21:01 |
| Kerbero | i still trust 8.10 | 21:01 |
| Kerbero | it was the best ubuntu ever :P | 21:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:01 |
| Kerbero | the one with the bird on the background i think | 21:01 |
| Kilos | i started on 8.10 | 21:01 |
| Kerbero | or the one after that | 21:01 |
| Kerbero | yeah me too | 21:01 |
| Kilos | but it got better every release up till 11.04 | 21:02 |
| Kilos | there was too much to do manually | 21:02 |
| Kerbero | nah | 21:02 |
| Kerbero | i think it got worse | 21:02 |
| Kilos | even mxit in pidgin was a battle | 21:02 |
| Kerbero | only hardware support got a lot better | 21:03 |
| Kerbero | hehe | 21:03 |
| Kerbero | that is true | 21:03 |
| Kerbero | i remember | 21:03 |
| Kilos | methinks maverick was my best system ive used here | 21:03 |
| Kilos | new pidgin has everything already there | 21:03 |
| Kerbero | but ubuntu scrapped pidgin from its default install | 21:04 |
| Kilos | just the plugins to install; | 21:04 |
| Kilos | yeah when they went empathy they went backwards | 21:04 |
| Kilos | pidgin rocks | 21:04 |
| Kerbero | indeed | 21:04 |
| Kilos | i think thunderbird mail also isnt as nice as 10.10 evolution | 21:05 |
| * bakuman uses thunderbird | 21:06 | |
| Kerbero | i've been using thunderbird for a very long time | 21:06 |
| Kerbero | as evolution broke when exchange upgraded to 2007 | 21:06 |
| Kilos | evo can make its own backups | 21:06 |
| Kerbero | google keeps my backups | 21:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:06 |
| Kilos | i use online stuff as little as possible | 21:07 |
| Kerbero | i use it a lot | 21:07 |
| Kilos | at a stage i was limited to 100m data a month | 21:07 |
| Kerbero | as everything is nicely synchronized accross all my devices | 21:07 |
| Kerbero | office pc, home pc, laptop and mobile phone | 21:07 |
| Kilos | 8ta has helped a lot | 21:07 |
| Kilos | wow | 21:08 |
| Kerbero | uni internet helps a lot here :P | 21:08 |
| Kilos | yeah it would | 21:08 |
| Kerbero | especially the free repo's | 21:08 |
| Kilos | 20% downloaded | 21:08 |
| Kilos | modem must be cooking | 21:09 |
| Kerbero | on a good day i can get 70MB/s from our local repo on my office PC | 21:09 |
| Kilos | wow | 21:09 |
| Kilos | id be happy with 1 mB/s | 21:09 |
| Kerbero | yeah 1MB/s is awesome | 21:10 |
| Kilos | but then 8ta special would also not be enough | 21:10 |
| Kerbero | i had that when i started using ubuntu | 21:10 |
| Kerbero | i think that is one of the main reasons i stayed | 21:11 |
| Kilos | ive never gone over 400 kB/s and that was for a few secs only | 21:11 |
| Kerbero | it is just too easy to install a new program | 21:11 |
| Kerbero | well 400kB/s is quite fast for 3G | 21:11 |
| Kilos | they advertise the modems as 6mB/s | 21:12 |
| Kilos | its them providers that limit you | 21:12 |
| Kilos | like the mtn R50 for a day | 21:12 |
| Kilos | after first 500m they choke you to 120kB/s | 21:13 |
| Kilos | but that goes down to 10kB/s at times | 21:13 |
| Kilos | swines | 21:13 |
| Kilos | 200m downloaded | 21:14 |
| Kilos | hope its not a dvd iso | 21:15 |
| Kerbero | ok nag oom kilos. ek gaan nou eers bed toe. | 21:20 |
| Kilos | nag Kerbero | 21:22 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap | 21:22 |
| Kilos | superfly, does one do a checksum thing too? | 21:45 |
| superfly | if you want... I can't say I've ever really bothered | 21:47 |
| * superfly goes to bed | 21:50 | |
| Kilos | sleep tight superfly | 21:50 |
| Kilos | ty for the help | 21:50 |
| Kilos | aw disconnected at 98 % download | 22:09 |
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