=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [04:02] hello guys... I have been taught java and self taught myself C#/VB .NET and developed programs using those languages. however I want to be useful in some kind of linux project since I have been using linux a lot more on my computers. what language is more heavily used in linux projects and how do I get started in a linux programming project group? [04:04] sl3apy: hey :) I have an open source software project that would greatly benefit from help :P [04:05] ESphynx: what language are you using? I am learning C++ syntax in college (persuing a degree in comptuer science) [04:06] sl3apy: In fact the project is centered around a new language called eC :) It's an OO language based on C, so it's similar to C#/Java in many aspects, but it's compiled and native as opposed to managed or ran in a virtual machine [04:06] ESphynx: ooo cool. [04:06] sl3apy: The project is a light GUI/graphics cross platform toolkit, Integrated Development Environment and Compiler ... [04:07] that actually does sound like I would understand it really good then [04:07] sl3apy awesome ;) Join us in #ecere? ;) === philballew_ is now known as philballew [04:17] ok, so in gnome-shell, the menubars have been removed now, as in unity, and in osx [04:18] the difference is, the options have not been moved to a menubar that is located in the top bar [04:18] they have been moved to an icon located in the top bar. if you click hte icon for empathy, for example, you get all of the menubar stuff [04:19] sop i guess nobody has any menubars anymore [04:19] I liked menu bars. [04:20] yes but you're mistaken [04:21] no I'm not. opiniated, perhaps. [05:44] how do i install the drivers for my ati raedon 6400 on 12.10 [06:40] will python 3.3 make it to 12.10? [07:59] hey all, do you know, if 12.10 will run with linux kernel 3.5 or will the new 3.6 kernel be used? [08:01] !info linux [08:01] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.14.14 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB [08:03] i'm running a netbook with 12.10 right now, i know the kernel, that is used right now ;) [08:03] i just wonder if 3.6 will core, or if i have to use mainline, to get it ;) [08:04] perhaps wait around for someone with more knowledge (like a developer) to see your question and respond [08:36] ChanServ: access #ubuntu+1 list [08:36] damn === ninjak_ is now known as ninjak [12:49] Hey all [13:11] Hi [13:12] Why Libreoffice that is in 12.10 doesn't work? It will not start, and there is no errors in terminal (only 2 warnings) [13:12] :S [13:18] Milos_SD: works here [13:19] Milos_SD: did you try renaming the config folder for the app? [13:25] actionParsnip, I don't have .libreoffice folder in my home folder [13:25] Milos_SD: mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice_old [13:26] actionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/C2jCE9Wq [13:27] doesn't work... [13:27] Milos_SD: is that after renaming the folder? [13:27] I had almost the same problem with loffice 3.6 from ppa in 12.04 [13:27] yes, after [13:27] before there ware only the first one and the last two [13:27] :) [13:27] Milos_SD: are you using KDE? [13:28] actionParsnip, no.. I use Unity [13:28] Milos_SD: ok, so gnome desktop ;) [13:30] !bug 666523 [13:30] Launchpad bug 666523 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[USB-Audio - Samson C03U ] Recording problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666523 [13:30] ah [13:31] Beta 2 got issues with nvidia? got no video at boot [13:31] card 460GTX [13:33] sebas_, install nvidia-current . then reboot [13:34] BluesKaj: I cannot do a liveboot [13:34] Milos_SD: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove libreoffice*; rm -r ~/.config/libreoffice; rm -r ~/.config/libreoffice_old; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get updpate; sudo apt-get install libreoffice [13:34] sebas_: tried the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 [13:34] actionParsnip: nope thanx will try rightaway [13:36] sebas, can you drop to TTY , sudo service lightdm stop, then install nvidia-current , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx [13:38] BluesKaj: thanx [13:39] sebas_, I'm assuming your DM is lightdm [13:39] oops too slow [13:40] is there a way to get unity 6.6 from quantal installed in 12.04? [13:41] CaptainKnots: there is a Unity backports PPA [13:41] CaptainKnots: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=unity [13:42] CaptainKnots: its a great page to search for PPAs. [13:42] CaptainKnots: no [13:43] actionParsnip: I already added the unity staging ppa [13:43] oh dear, someone actually tried [13:43] jbicha: https://launchpad.net/~benkai/+archive/precise-unity-backport [13:43] jbicha: so, yes. It exists [13:43] it brought me up to 5.16 [13:44] CaptainKnots: the PPA has 6.2 Unity for Precise. [13:44] well, time to see if my system blows up [13:44] I'm very skeptical; the gsettings transition is huge and we're still trying to squash bugs from it [13:44] has ubuntu moved to systemd? [13:58] problem installing ubuntu12.10 beta 2 using unetbootbin after installing ..grub2 doesn't load [13:58] dark_: is it during the installation, or is this an installed OS? [13:59] help? [14:00] in an installed OS [14:01] dark_: what video chip do yo use? [14:07] amd both [14:07] 3400 series [14:07] try the boot option: nomodeset [14:08] is there any error message dark_ ? or are you sent to the grub>> prompt? [14:09] On 12.04 in terminal doing something like 'git ' would give me a list of git commands (add, bisect, branch, commit, etc). Now it offers a list of files in the current directory instead [14:10] Since this is a completely fresh install for me, is there maybe a package or a setting I'm missing? Or is this different in 12.10 [14:10] Obviously I prefer the command-specific prompting/completion [14:10] nope nothing sent to grub2 [14:11] AaronCampbell, bash-completion? [14:11] Artemis3: According to synaptic, that's installed [14:12] sorry its not amd.... on another computer i installed ubuntu12.10 beta 2 using unetbootbin after installing ..grub2 doesn't load..the config is intel i5 ,nvdia 520m [14:13] help? [14:15] dark_, can you hold shift when booting to see grub menu? [14:18] no i didn;t see menu...i switched my win7 gets booted [14:19] no i didn;t see menu...i turned on ...my win7 gets booted [14:19] so grub never installed [14:20] its days installed during installation [14:21] its says installed during installation [14:21] maybe its installing in the wrong place... [14:22] i suppose you should start with a thumbdrive first [14:23] if i put my thumbdrive....it only opens only intall menu [14:23] which image did you use in the thumbdrive? [14:25] ubuntu-12.10-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso [14:25] ah start, just don't install [14:25] its a "live" desktop === 50UABSEYY is now known as trijntje [14:30] ya..i started it [14:31] try in a terminal: sudo lshw -class disk output to pastebin or similar [14:31] when trying to installing it detects that thart quantal is inatlled [14:59] Tomboy isn't used anymore in Ubuntu is it? [14:59] wasn't it based on mono? [15:08] designbybeck, it isn't, and yes, it is based on Mono. [15:08] Still available on the repos. [15:26] Anyone else have issues with google talk aut [15:26] *auth [15:26] It seems empathy can't sign in every day, and I have to re-authorize the account or something to that degree.... [15:27] That used to happen to me. I don't know why it doesn't anymore [15:29] It just had me re-authorize with a full login ( as opposed to hitting the "Grant Access" button ) - maybe that'll fix it? [15:30] I have a feeling the initial perms request that was setup didn't have a long enough timeout [15:36] hi [15:39] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/quantal/beta2 <- can/will features from linux 3.6 be backported? [15:40] sorry, http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.6 [15:44] I upgraded to the quantal beta, how do I use the shopping lens? [15:44] I want to shop amazon via the dash dammit! [15:46] nbf: just search [15:47] nbf: use dash to search, things will appear [15:47] actionParsnip: I only get suggestions for music and dvds [15:49] btw have you ever read what stallman says about amazon? http://stallman.org/amazon.html [15:49] !ot [15:49] #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [15:49] for the things I like about rms, he's kind of a kook [15:49] ... [15:49] kind of the bin laden of FLOSS [15:50] lets move on pleaes [15:50] don't you have better things to do [15:50] it's not like this channel is busy with useful chat [15:50] ^ [15:50] it's not the chat channel. [15:53] anyway, where can I read about the phases of development of ubuntu? [15:54] pepee, this release? [15:54] any release [15:54] !schedule [15:54] A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule [15:54] about the process itself [15:55] the mailing lists [15:55] to know if the features will or will not be backported [16:48] I did a clean install of 12.10 Beta 1. While using live thumbdrive, all worked well. Afterinstalling all worked well. After an upgrade, when I log in I get no launcher, no sys tray, etc [16:56] it have application support ? [16:57] oops wrong channel [16:59] I am here now [16:59] yup [16:59] brohan: do you have -proposed enabled? [16:59] Restarting after install from thumbdrive Beta-1 iso [17:00] I assume not, I don't know what that is [17:00] brohan: apt-cache policy compiz; pastebin that [17:00] I am now rebooting after install has completed [17:01] brohan: oh did you just reinstall instead? [17:02] FYI I am logging in, has KDE workspace button and a guest button. After upgrading last time it only had my name, no guest no KDE button [17:02] trism, he's installing kubuntu [17:02] I am doing this so that if I need to come back to this log I can follow what I am doing in case I need to do it again [17:03] you should have moved ~/.kde [17:03] System is up what do you recommend I do now BluesKay [17:03] I want to completely remove ubuntu-desktop packages on Kubuntu, any ideas? [17:04] so you're at the login screen , brohan ? [17:04] !purekde | GirlyGirl [17:04] GirlyGirl: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » [17:04] bazhang: That's not for 12.10 [17:04] I have logged in, all is well. Blueskaj [17:05] BluesKaj: thanks, seems like I missed part of the discussion [17:05] bazhang: Some package names change so I would not do that [17:05] cool brohan [17:05] Now what [17:06] open a terminal and run sudo apt-getupdate;sudo apt-get upgrade [17:06] err, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [17:06] brohan, ^ [17:07] I get error messages at first [17:07] says can't get InRelease [17:08] couldn't resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com [17:08] hmm, no internet connection [17:08] couldn't get release.gpg couldn't resolve security.ubuntu.com [17:08] BUT [17:08] it says some index files failed to download, then building ress [17:08] tree [17:09] yada yada then need to get 240 mb/290 mb of archives [17:09] do I wan to continue [17:09] yup [17:10] Oops [17:10] you were right, no internet connection [17:10] I connected redid command [17:10] all is well as far as no error messages [17:11] go ahead and hit Y now? [17:11] yes [17:11] I don't have to worry about video drivers getting bunged up? [17:12] brohan, ati graphics? [17:13] well ,there's always a chance , but I'm sure we can solve the problem if it happens [17:15] ati radeon x1400 [17:16] If this is the same as doing the muon upgrade, this may very well cause an issue [17:16] are you seeing any errors , brohan ? [17:17] not yet [17:17] all looks good [17:17] after I hit Y to begin it is GET one line after the other nothing in between [17:18] pepee, what's the default driver for un configured ati graphics ,,vesa ? [17:18] It says GET then maybe one or 2 HIT, then as it get so GET 20 it is all Get 21 Get 22 etc [17:18] brohan, yes that's normal [17:18] perfect [17:19] It looks like it is doing final processing, and I got a sys not box saying upgrades are avail [17:19] I'm not sure BluesKaj [17:19] shouldn't it be ati? [17:20] yeah , that one's always behind the terminal brohan , muon and apt-get both use the the dpkg management system , muon is just a GUI and apt-get is the terminal app , both do the same thing [17:21] makes sense, just figured it was odd that I was upgrading and it tells me there are upgrades, GUI lags? [17:22] that's just a slow notifier at work brohan [17:22] What is the diff in doing this, vs the way I used gui before that gave me this graphics issue? [17:22] hard to know [17:22] ok [17:23] I am pretty new to this that is why I am asking :-) [17:23] Lots of setting up lines now [17:24] error grub bios secto 32 in use by FlexNet [17:25] installation finished (that part) no errors reported [17:25] brohan, once the upgrades are finished in the terminal , look in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers [17:25] will do [17:25] no, reboot first [17:25] and reboot twice [17:25] Rebuilding Xapian index [17:26] So reboot once, log in then reboot, or reboot to login screen, reboot, then log in and check the menu apps system add drivers? [17:26] twice ? [17:27] It is done in terminal, Reboot? [17:27] I've seen strange things happen, so I reboot twice to be sure [17:27] so reboot now? [17:27] it takes you a minute, so... [17:27] yes , probly a good idea to reboot now [17:27] OK [17:28] then reboot to login screen and reboot, or login and then reboot? [17:28] perphaps it's not needed, but it's a good idea to always reboot after upgrading [17:28] pepee, so reboot again from the login after the first reboot ? [17:28] brohan, login and reboot [17:28] ok [17:29] getting to be like a windows install [17:29] pepee as an FYI, after upgrading last time, I logged in to nothing, no launcher, systray, no right mouse click etc [17:30] Unfortunately I have to go soon, but will be back in about 2 hours [17:30] brohan, mv ~/.kde{,_backup} [17:30] run that in a console, then reboot [17:31] gonna be 3 reboots if there's a recommended driver to install [17:31] still waiting on 1st reboot :-( [17:31] hdd is running [17:31] ok, let it do whatever it's doing [17:31] don't run the command [17:32] I will let it keep smoking [17:32] not until another reboot [17:32] that was just shutting down, it is now firing back up, for the 1st time :-) [17:33] I am at login screen for the first time, all appears well [17:33] getting login icons [17:34] (which didn't happen before) [17:34] OK, logged in, all is well, asking for wallet password. Reboot now? [17:34] yeah, just to be sure [17:34] I know what went awry! [17:35] I backed up my home dir [17:35] then I just restored backup [17:35] I now assume that restored old config settings for 12.04? [17:35] probably [17:36] and that caused issue? [17:36] How can I remedy that? [17:36] I have to go :-( Can I look you guys up when I get back? [17:37] my guess would be that something needs to redo something, and until it's done, all will be a mess [17:37] sure brohan [17:37] Will look you up later [17:37] THANK YOU for all your help [17:37] np [17:40] brohan, better to have a / and /home partitions rather than solely relying on backup , the conf files in /home are auto reconfigured to new version afaik during the reinstall to / [17:42] is there a way to manage the unity lenses [17:46] jetsaredim: manage in what way? I believe the only way to stop them from loading is to uninstall them [17:47] trism: hm - ok - they seems to be continually crashing so it would be nice to disable them [17:47] i never use anything other than the program search === philballew_ is now known as philballew [18:17] hi [18:19] hi silverarrow [18:20] I have manage to boot quantal ppc of Ubuntu [18:20] not yet installed [18:23] live cd /usb ? [18:27] cd === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:33] Uh oh! This isn't good: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-wont-fix-nsfw-content-in-amazon-unity-results [19:33] I'd hate to have this installed for some of the kids we work with and have NSFW stuff pop up at random searches [19:33] WHat is your take on this? [19:34] But I guess it is "removable" [19:35] it sucks ... [19:36] edubuntu does not install it by default [19:36] oh that is good to know! [19:36] I haven't checked out edubuntu 12.10 yet how is it looking jtaylor [19:36] I haven't tried it either [19:36] what should be used instead of jockey? [19:37] in Kubuntu [19:37] but I saw that there was a bug about removing it from edubuntu for obvious reasons [19:37] Is there any word as to if kernel 3.6 is making it into quantal? [19:37] Rallias: won't happen besides backports [19:37] i thought i saw it was Rallias [19:37] ...oh maybe not [19:37] Oh... fun. [19:37] it was only released today, quantal is due in three weeks [19:38] far to little time [19:38] Yeah, but kernel freeze is on the 4th [19:38] so I was wondering. [19:38] will it ever be tested for an update? [19:38] hm I think if it was planned we would have an rc in quantal already [19:38] * silverarrow googles rc [19:39] So there's no ability to use quantal for commercial LXC? [19:39] rc = release candidate [19:40] lxc should work with 3.5 too? [19:40] or is there something specific in 3.6? [19:40] I have used lxc in precise which has 3.2 [19:40] 3.5 series if you issue shutdown in a container it shuts down the host system. [19:40] That was fixed in 3.6 [19:40] outch [19:40] its likely that fix was or will be backported [19:41] lxc is important for ubuntu [19:41] Rallias: do you know which commit fixed it? we may have added it to 3.5 [19:41] trism I'm not sure, I just know it was targeted for 3.6 [19:42] I tested it in a self-compiled kernel, but I would much rather use a stock kernel in a high liability environment. [19:44] Is there a PPA for me to use to get the 3.6.x kernels? [19:46] Rallias: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [19:47] but they are for testing purposes, not really supported [19:47] is there a clever way to get the b43 quantal package on a usb stick? [19:48] silverarrow: cp /var/cache/apt/archive/...*deb /media/...? [19:48] hmm, ? [19:48] what do you mean? [19:49] well, I usualy have to get wired and do updates and what not to get the b43 stuff [19:49] so for the live usb? [19:49] and I have only wireless right now [19:50] well, I have live cd which boots now, but the b43 drivers [19:51] you can allocate persistent storage on an use and put it there [19:52] BluesKaj: the first question is if jockey-kde is going to be functional or not [19:53] dmatt, I haven't heard that [19:53] BluesKaj: if yes and only after final release, i am kind of ok with that even though there is not time to test anything [19:54] BluesKaj: if no, I am pretty much interested in testing the alternative which is going to be official way to install fglrx [19:55] BluesKaj: citing from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 : [19:55] dmatt, the fglrx driver seems to work on some radeons and not others , I don't know what the answer is except to try everything possible including the ati/radeon proprietary [19:56] BluesKaj: Jockey has been deprecated in favor of a "Drivers" component in software-properties. [19:57] do thexedgers crew have any drivers available , I haven't checked [19:57] does empathy support to get the previous convrsation history from facebook ?? [19:58] dmatt, so you don't have an additional drivers option in the kmenu? [19:59] BluesKaj: yes but this was update from 12.04 [20:00] BluesKaj: maybe even fglrx in repositories would work for me (it used to without problems), jockey just does not suggest anything [20:00] BluesKaj: and when i found in release notes that jockey is deprecated, I want to know if there is other official way [20:00] dmatt, I did a clean install to / , maybe the additional drivers component was saved in the conf files [20:01] BluesKaj: you don't have it in 12.10? [20:02] I have addtitonal drivers option , dmatt , but it's nvidia , not ati [20:02] BluesKaj: I am trying to determine what "Jockey has been deprecated in favor of a "Drivers" component in software-properties." from beta2 release notes really means [20:03] yeah , good question [20:04] dmatt: maybe the upgrade was b0rked, I had to use cli jockey to deaactivate fglrx to get to GUI [20:05] BluesKaj: ^ [20:06] * BluesKaj nods [20:08] * MrChrisDruif waves at BluesKaj [20:09] dmatt, for what it's worth . the drivers listed in jockey are different ,( so probly upgraded options) , now than the last time I checked , so jockey might be retained for nvidia equipped pcs [20:09] * BluesKaj waves back at MrChrisDruif [20:09] =D [20:11] dmatt, altho I'm not using any of the optional drivers listed in jockey [20:13] dmatt, BluesKaj : jockey is going away completely, replaced by an additional tab in software-properties [20:13] BluesKaj: thatnk, i try clean test install and check jockey there [20:13] see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1021733 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareAndUpdatesSettings#drivers [20:13] Launchpad bug 1021733 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Complete the Additional Drivers implementation" [Medium,Fix released] [20:14] glebihan: and what will replace it in Kubuntu? [20:14] dmatt, I'm not sure what's been decided for kubuntu [20:19] where is the software properties equivalent on kde , glebihan? [20:20] BluesKaj, I'm not sure, it's been a while since I've last used KDE [20:21] probly the software center , which i don't use [20:21] or have installed [20:26] BluesKaj: no it is not in software center, it only leads back to jockey [20:32] Vista got a bit better after the sp packages [20:32] boots in about a week [20:35] dmatt, found it in /usr/share/software properties, but thereisn't anything there about graphics drivers [20:48] BluesKaj: don't know if this is really related [20:49] silverarrow, A OEM vista? [20:49] dmatt, yeah it was just a guess using locate in the terminal [20:50] a what? [20:52] silverarrow, Factory install not a straight install from a disc original equipment manufacture (OEM) [20:53] BluesKaj: jockey (0.9.7-0ubuntu11) quantal; urgency=low [20:53] * debian/control: Turn jockey-gtk into a transitional package for [20:53] software-properties-gtk, to avoid showing two icons in control-center [20:53] after upgrading. [20:53] -- Martin Pitt Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:45:56 +0200 [20:54] yes factory installed [20:56] BluesKaj: seems to me that jockey-kde should work [20:57] software-properties-kde maybe [20:57] BluesKaj: i'll make that clean install and check jockey there [20:57] silverarrow, Ah worst install type, lots of extra stuff not needed that make it run slower in general, vista has a bad rap I only tried it for a couple of weeks with a reinstall on a used computer I bought ran pretty good, but I suspect overtime there may have been problems, hard to say. [20:58] jockey works here , both in additional drivers and the krunner [20:58] dmatt,^ [20:58] BluesKaj: ok, sofware-properties-kde is for repositories setting [21:00] BluesKaj: thank you for help [21:01] it takes a long time to boot and for wireless to be up and running, otherwise there are not any trouble [21:01] it has been stable and reliable for years [21:01] these days when ultrabooks boots in 20 seconds, this one is ridiculous [21:02] dmatt, dunno how much help I was , but it was a learning experience for me :) [21:06] ok , time to go ..stuff to do [21:14] Hey BluesKaj, I am back, sorry it took longer than expected [21:14] BluesKaj as a reminder I just did a new install, upgraded, my video works great. I need to now restore my backup (I assume minus the old config files) [21:15] and you are gone :-( [21:16] you here Pepee? [21:19] Can anyone help with doing a clean install of 12.10 and then restoring a 12.04 backup without messing up my video (which works just fine in 12.10) [21:23] brohan, why not just simply copy the files? [21:24] hmm you'll need to change permissions after that [21:24] I did the backup with deja dup [21:24] I am not sure how to restore other than using it to restore all [21:25] (although in the future by backup drive is big enough to just copy, not compress) [21:25] Before I had left pepee you had suggested after rebooting mv ~/.kde {,_backup} [21:26] still do that? [21:26] are you in quantal now? [21:26] no, if it's working , leave it there brohan [21:26] also, be careful when copying commands [21:26] when you boot quantal is the side taskbar there? [21:26] ok. What happens when I restore my backup which was made in 12.04 and made of my entire home directory? [21:27] brohan, does your system has the same username as the previous one? [21:27] I am using kubuntu, and was recommeded, and had the conversation in this chat, so it is a bit off topic [21:27] pepp yes it does [21:27] *have [21:28] It didn't, BUT then last night I redid everything so it did, which I should have left my mistake alone [21:28] So right now my username is the same\ [21:29] create a new user, restore backup to that user, then copy what I need? [21:29] same IDs too? [21:29] try copying the files directly and see what happens, but make sure to not touch your backup [21:29] what do you mean by ID's, the computer name? [21:30] user ID [21:30] How do I copy the files directly? They were backed up with Deja Dup, as some kind of compressed one I think. Right now my username is the same as it was before yes [21:30] brohan, sadly, I've never used deja dup [21:31] I believe that I can actually restore it to a different directory [21:31] I will give that a go? [21:31] do you want to recover the whole /home? [21:32] including configs, etc? [21:32] NO, just data files from what I would imagine since I did a whole fresh install with HDD formatting [21:32] no need for any configs [21:32] any software configs I can redo [21:32] they were just eyecandy [21:33] luckily my browser bookwarks are in the cloud [21:33] it's a backup of /home? [21:33] yes [21:33] and just /home [21:33] well /bjrohan [21:33] home/bjrohan [21:34] well, I'd just try it [21:34] try to restore it to the same directory [21:34] if something goes wrong, redo all the process [21:34] do you think the kde config will mess up my display again? [21:34] that will take hours [21:35] but if you are over 50% sure I can restore backup fine I will give it a go [21:37] If I may, what did we do this time that kept my display issues from happening than I did on my own? [21:41] I am just asking so I can learn, to fish vs being fed once :-) [21:42] i'm getting a black screen after a successful install of ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 beta :( [21:43] zzillezz, do you know how to use the grub manager at boot? [21:44] brohan, if it does, you can always fix it [21:45] true [21:45] Now in KDE I can't find the standard Muon Package manager [21:46] pepee, what's there to do besides selecting Ubuntu ? [21:46] brohan, its called apper I think, but I'm not sure [21:48] zzillezz, in grub, press e and remove "quiet splash", then press ctrl+x [21:51] pepee, it stops again at Booting Node 0, Processors #1 [21:51] does it show some error message or somthing? [21:51] *something [21:52] nope :( [21:53] zzillezz, what cpu? [21:53] zzillezz, a workaround: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100721/ubuntu-11-10-64-bit-wont-start-after-i-upgrade-it-possible-procesor-problems [21:55] alright, i'll have a read thanks pepee [21:55] zzillezz, what cpu? [21:55] i was running xubuntu 12.10 without problems ... core i3 [21:55] pepee, do you recommend I restore then install my software (gimp, scribus) or install then restore? [21:56] zzillezz, just add "maxcpus=1" to that line, and file a bug report. [21:56] brohan, not sure, sorry [21:56] but I'd restore and install [21:57] the line in grub where i deleted quiet splash ? [21:57] yes zzillezz [21:57] ok [21:57] brohan, that if it's the configs in /home [21:57] they are [21:57] Thanks :-) [21:59] zzillezz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1706348 [21:59] zzillezz, ^it says the solution is to upgrade your BIOS [22:00] no bios updates available i'm afraid ... [22:00] read that thread, could be helpful [22:00] can i change the keyboard layout of grub ? [22:00] can't find the = since i'm not using qwerty [22:02] not sure zzillezz, never did that [22:03] found it :) [22:04] it's booting now ... let's see if it's working on all cores [23:05] pepee, IT WORKED did the restore, rebooted all is well [23:05] now time to install the apps [23:06] cool brohan [23:06] And . . it looks like it brought over some of my old config settings [23:07] although need to update 3rd party dock etc. Thank you so much for your help. [23:07] you are welcome [23:09] Now to add old preferred software etc.