| veebers | Where would I find the spec for creating an icon set for a desktop application? | 02:29 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:06 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:18 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:18 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti! | 05:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: does the webapp integration works for you? | 05:32 |
| pitti | didrocks: is that the u1 music store? | 05:32 |
| pitti | if I click on that in a guest session, I get firefox opened with that page, yes | 05:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: no, like if you go to g+, you should see a banner telling you that webapps scripts are available for better ubuntu integration | 05:33 |
| didrocks | and if you click yes, you should see a package installing | 05:33 |
| pitti | oh; I never saw that one | 05:33 |
| didrocks | I see the banner here (on chromium), but clicking yes, and nothing happens | 05:34 |
| pitti | I have g+ open in firefox all the time (in fact, twice -- one for my personal and one for my canonical QA account) | 05:34 |
| didrocks | I find it amazing that this feature still doesn't work properly 3 weeks before the release :/ | 05:34 |
| didrocks | and the maching for default apps in the launcher | 05:34 |
| didrocks | like amazon and u1ms | 05:34 |
| didrocks | doesn't match chromium here | 05:34 |
| didrocks | (it opens a new chromium instance and there is a second chromium icon in the launcher) | 05:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: so, in a guest session I open plus.g.c. in firefox and get to the login page; no popup, banner, etc. | 05:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: chromium is a little bit better, there is the banner at least | 05:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks for confirming :) | 05:38 |
| pitti | firefox is still our default browser, though :) | 05:38 |
| didrocks | yeah, but it's not functional on chromium anyway | 05:39 |
| didrocks | same for the matching | 05:39 |
| didrocks | isn't PS working on that for months? ;) | 05:39 |
| * Sweetshark looks out of the window. | 07:15 | |
| Sweetshark | oh it day again! | 07:15 |
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| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| didrocks | hey Sweetshark! how are you? | 07:23 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: Pulled an allnighter on Friday. Pulled an allnighter today. But now unity menus in LibreOffice seem to work stable ... | 07:27 |
| Sweetshark | unfortunately the diff is too nontrivial for me to really dump it in quantal ... | 07:28 |
| Sweetshark | :/ | 07:28 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: argh, what was the issue? I found the menu pretty stable (or I'm just a lucky man ;)) | 07:28 |
| didrocks | races? | 07:28 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: bug 1052200 and bug 1042070 | 07:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1052200 in libreoffice "LibreOffice crashes with a SIGSEGV sometimes because GMenuModel exporter receives a NULL menu" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052200 | 07:30 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: interesting. I bet it was a "fun" hunt :) | 07:32 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: yeah, reorganizing the object ownerships in LibreOffice (LibreOffice menus have independant lifecycles from the windows/frames and the implementation was done the the menu_model as a member of the menu. If you can only export a menu_model once, that obviously cant work.) | 07:38 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: and then there is a small additional patch to glib which might or might not be needed anymore. that one is quick and easy to review, though ... | 07:39 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: it was easier than hunting down bug 1017125 or bug 745836 -- _those_ where weeks/months of fun ... | 07:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1017125 in boost1.49 "boost::unordered_multimap<>::erase(iterator, iterator) broken on quantal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017125 | 07:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 745836 in linux "encrypted swap corrupts application stack/heap [was: soffice.bin SIGSEGV cppu::throwException()]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745836 | 07:48 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: issue in boost? | 07:49 |
| didrocks | waow, that's quite rare :) | 07:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: yeah, that was a Sherlock Holmes like: "It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." conclusion in the end. However, I was detracted by the gcc-ABI breakage fun in the beginning as the crash had a (otherwise rather rare in LO) slist in the stack .... | 07:52 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson :) | 07:56 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: yeah, I can imagine the gcc-ABI breakage played into the mix :/ | 07:56 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: btw, what did you do for libroffice? | 07:57 |
| didrocks | built it with 4.6? | 07:57 |
| didrocks | or is it fixed? (didn't check if libsigc++ has been rebuilt since the 4.7 fix) | 07:57 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: libreoffice is build without C++11 itself (vendor patched that), there do not seem to be any other issues so all linked libs should be clean/have been rebuild after foundations tweaked gcc to be ABI compatible again. | 08:11 |
| Sweetshark | hmmm, in the end the diff isnt that big at all: 4 files changed, 266 insertions(+), 353 deletions(-) | 08:12 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: wanna review? ;) | 08:12 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: ah sweet, I'll switch at the start of next cycle then :) | 08:12 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: this is the glib part? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | or libro? | 08:12 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: seems small enough, don't think it warrants a review if it's only doing some small rewrite ;) | 08:12 |
| * mlankhorst ducks | 08:13 | |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: libreoffice. glib is 10 lines max (and is just checking for some nullpointers and instead of crashing splitting stern warnings ...) | 08:13 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: not sure I'm quite confortable to do libreoffice reviews :) | 08:14 |
| Laney | morning | 08:14 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:14 |
| Sweetshark | everytime I ask for reviews for LibreOffice it feels like "This is my boomstick!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFriRcIwqNU | 08:15 |
| didrocks | ahah :) | 08:15 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:16 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! | 08:16 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks ;-) | 08:16 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: salut! | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, did you have a good weekend? | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 08:17 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: every time I ask for kernel reviews I can see their brains switch off :-) | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | hi Laney, Sweetshark, mlankhorst | 08:17 |
| mlankhorst | heya | 08:17 |
| Laney | "The disk drive for / is not present" | 08:17 |
| Laney | happy Monday :( | 08:17 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: was quite good, saturday was about places for the wedding, and quiet sunday as it was raining outside :) | 08:17 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, excellent, thanks ... you? | 08:18 |
| didrocks | you? | 08:18 |
| mlankhorst | Laney: Please insert floppy in dry A! | 08:18 |
| mlankhorst | drive* | 08:18 |
| Sweetshark | mlankhorst: http://i.imgur.com/LF4a2.png | 08:18 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: :D | 08:18 |
| Laney | (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, we went to west midlands safari park on saturday, which was quite fun | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks :) | 08:18 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: actually you do, it's just no floating points and a mildly different api | 08:19 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: ah, great! | 08:19 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you have safari parks in the u.k ... isn't that the wrong continent and weather? ;-) | 08:19 |
| mlankhorst | interrupts are fun, too! | 08:19 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, heh :) | 08:19 |
| chrisccoulson | the weather was actually not too bad on saturday | 08:20 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a bit cold this morning though | 08:20 |
| Laney | hum, it is there | 08:20 |
| Sweetshark | mlankhorst: yes, that pic was grekhs reaction to reading on a OS X dev manpage "dont program in kernelspace, its very black magic, be veeewwwy careful" | 08:22 |
| chrisccoulson | Can people please stop breaking Firefox this week? :) | 08:22 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: :D | 08:23 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: well it is targetted towards the apple audience | 08:23 |
| mlankhorst | and I can imagine it's black magic if you don't have the full kernel source.. | 08:23 |
| Laney | I saw some firefox crashes over the weekend that seemed correlated to saying "yes" to those new irritating webapp popups | 08:23 |
| Sweetshark | mlankhorst: https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/Sq36QJGXn8r | 08:25 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, yeah. there are other things too. people are reporting cookies disappearing and general issues with the addon manager (addons being marked as third party and prompted to reinstall on each restart) | 08:25 |
| chrisccoulson | from my bug mail at the weekend, firefox looks like a big steaming turd in quantal right now ;) | 08:25 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: that first comment from tyler is spot on though | 08:26 |
| mlankhorst | binary kernels suck | 08:26 |
| chrisccoulson | eg, bug 1058220, bug 1058209, bug 1058135 | 08:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1058220 in unity-firefox-extension "Firefox deletes Accept Cookies exceptions on one of profiles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058220 | 08:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1058209 in webapps-greasemonkey "firefox re-installs Add-ons everytime I restart Ubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058209 | 08:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1058135 in unity-firefox-extension "Firefox loses cookies when closed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058135 | 08:26 |
| Sweetshark | mlankhorst: the first comment on the original post by kai is even better ... | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | not very happy :( | 08:27 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: not a good start to your day then :( | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll be ok after some coffee ;) | 08:28 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: the real reason source code for binary blobs are hidden is because it's to conserve your eyes | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, did you submit those crashes btw? | 08:30 |
| Laney | yeah | 08:30 |
| Laney | well, I told it do, didn't check it was successful | 08:30 |
| Laney | do/to | 08:30 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, got a crash ID in about:crashes? | 08:31 |
| Laney | ah yes | 08:31 |
| Sweetshark | mlankhorst: I have worked at a close source shop, I have seen ~everything. And the dark (pre-1990) corners of StarOffice had ... character ... too. | 08:31 |
| Laney | fetching this archived report :O | 08:31 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/24bb9f36-765e-4d12-87ab-5216b2120930 | 08:32 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, thanks. | 08:32 |
| chrisccoulson | so, callback being garbage collected? sigh.... | 08:32 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: that's something you really don't want to say.. | 08:33 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, bug 1059441 | 08:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059441 in webapps-greasemonkey "Firefox 15.0.1 Crash Report [@ proxy_LookupGeneric ] " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059441 | 08:38 |
| * Sweetshark throws around mutexguards until libreoffice is completely singlethreaded ... | 08:39 | |
| Sweetshark | muhahah | 08:39 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson: cheers | 08:39 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey | 08:41 |
| seb128 | dpm, how are you? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | dpm, could you approve https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+imports ? | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, there's quite a few more with a subtly different frame on the top of the stack too | 08:42 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va? | 08:42 |
| dpm | hey seb128 good morning, and done ;) | 08:42 |
| pitti | hey dpm | 08:43 |
| dpm | morning pitti | 08:43 |
| seb128 | dpm, thanks | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, guten tag! | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, wie gehts? | 08:46 |
| pitti | seb128: sehr gut, danke! wie war Dein Wochenende? | 08:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, es war gut danke ;-) | 08:49 |
| davmor2 | seb128, pitti: hey guys samaung s3 and sansa fuse on quantal are still not showing up as devices :( did your fix in precise make it to debian and get pulled back into quantal? | 08:49 |
| pitti | yes, if I fix stuff I do that straight upstream and then upload to D/sync to U | 08:50 |
| pitti | so I guess there's something else wrong anywhere in between udev and rhythmbox | 08:50 |
| pitti | davmor2: I guess I already asked you before, but does this have any hits? udevadm info --export-db|grep ID_MEDIA_PLAYER | 08:55 |
| pitti | davmor2: (if the player is connected) | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | pitti yeap added to the bug I think but I'll double check once I found the new bug I wrote | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | pitti: from memory it showed up as expected iirc | 08:56 |
| === mpt_ is now known as mpt | ||
| seb128 | dpm, do you think we should tell the translators that the shopping lens is available to translate? can you do it? ;-) | 08:57 |
| dpm | seb128, :) yes | 08:57 |
| seb128 | dpm, thanks | 08:58 |
| davmor2 | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1051951 | 08:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1051951 in gvfs "sansa fuze and samsung s3 phone are both shown as usb drive not devices" [Undecided,New] | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | pitti: let me know if there is anything else I tracked down the old bug from precise incase it is related | 09:00 |
| pitti | hm, quantal still has 06_music-player-mimetype.patch | 09:01 |
| pitti | davmor2: subscribed and asked a q on the bug | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | pitti: done | 09:04 |
| pitti | thanks; so, looks like a gvfs bug | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, http://browser.yandex.com/. time to change the default browser! | 09:07 |
| davmor2 | pitti: if you need anything else just ping me or if you need me to test anything, I'm not really about today but irssi will email me. | 09:18 |
| mvo | compiz keeps reseting my auto-raise settings somehow, noticed that on two boxes now :/ | 09:18 |
| mvo | (i.e. reseting to no-autoraise) | 09:18 |
| mvo | but focus-follow-mouse is honored still | 09:18 |
| pitti | mvo: me too, bug 1042041 | 09:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1042041 in compiz "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: keeps setting gsettings keys to wrong values" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042041 | 09:18 |
| mvo | cool, thanks pitti | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, now that we enable a11y by default, my apport GTK tests fail with ** (test_ui_gtk.py:8001): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files | 09:22 |
| pitti | seb128: I can add at-spi2-core to the test dependencies, but shouldn't that rather be a dependency of GTK itself? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm a bit unsure where the depends should be added, GTK would work | 09:24 |
| seb128 | libgail-3-0 depends on at-spi2-core though | 09:24 |
| seb128 | isn't gtk depending on libgail? | 09:24 |
| * seb128 checks | 09:24 | |
| pitti | no | 09:24 |
| pitti | libevince and nautilus do | 09:24 |
| pitti | so libgtk-3-0 Depends: libgail-3-0 might be better then, if that's what GTK is actually talking to? | 09:25 |
| seb128 | * debian/control.in: | 09:25 |
| seb128 | - libgail-3-0 depends on at-spi2-core since a11y is an hard depends | 09:25 |
| seb128 | yeah, I did that | 09:25 |
| seb128 | let me check, I don't know well how a11y is working | 09:25 |
| pitti | right, but libgail-3-0 doesn't get pulled in as a dep either | 09:25 |
| seb128 | especially not since this cycle | 09:25 |
| pitti | hm, libgail-3-0 already depends on libgtk-3-0 | 09:26 |
| pitti | so better not do a cyclic dependency | 09:26 |
| pitti | (Recommends: might do, though) | 09:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, in fact I asked in July on https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-July/msg00000.html | 09:28 |
| seb128 | https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-July/msg00001.html | 09:28 |
| seb128 | so yeah, we should probably add the depends to libgtk-3-0 | 09:29 |
| pitti | "recommends" then? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | thanks for the reminder I forgot to follow up on that and the warnings stopped there (because nautilus brings gail which brings the service) | 09:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, libgtk-3-0 Depends at-spi2-core | 09:29 |
| pitti | ah, that way | 09:29 |
| seb128 | e.g move the depends from gail to gtk | 09:29 |
| seb128 | imho | 09:29 |
| seb128 | what do you think? | 09:29 |
| pitti | right, then gail would still have it transitively | 09:31 |
| pitti | shouldn't hurt to have it on both, though | 09:31 |
| seb128 | correct | 09:31 |
| seb128 | well, reading the second like I give | 09:32 |
| seb128 | the service is used by gtk, gnome-shell, unity, firefox | 09:32 |
| seb128 | not by gail | 09:32 |
| seb128 | so I think it's fine moving it | 09:32 |
| chrisccoulson | my ears are burning | 09:37 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 09:37 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, stop listening to that loud music! | 09:43 |
| Laney | bah, I get prompted to install the webapp script every time I visit LP, but clicking "Install" does nothing | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, czajkowski and didrocks are talking to the webapps guys and throwing bugs at them, let's see what they do with those | 09:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i've thrown a few bugs their way too ;) | 09:45 |
| czajkowski | Laney: ohhh confirm my bug | 09:45 |
| czajkowski | Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-launchpad/+bug/1059457 | 09:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059457 in unity-webapps-launchpad "webapps keeps offering to install even when I've said never for this site " [Undecided,Triaged] | 09:46 |
| czajkowski | that one annoys me on LP every day | 09:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: bugs and stones to be exact :) | 09:46 |
| Laney | I haven't said never | 09:46 |
| Laney | I don't want to say never, because I want to try the script :P | 09:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: this is bug #1059460 then | 09:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059460 in libunity-webapps "With chromium, when clicking "yes" on any integration feature, nothing happens" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059460 | 09:47 |
| Laney | well, with firefox | 09:47 |
| czajkowski | Laney: aye an option to revist it at a later date might be useful | 09:47 |
| Laney | but that yes | 09:47 |
| didrocks | Laney: please change the comment then :) | 09:48 |
| Laney | there | 09:49 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| seb128 | pitti, do you want me to do the gtk depends change? | 10:09 |
| pitti | seb128: commit to bzr sounds fine to me; I worked around it in apport's packaging fornow | 10:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 10:09 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, hey, thanks for tracking down that intel frozen screen after screen blanking bug ;-) | 10:12 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yw, was a nice couple of days.. | 10:13 |
| * didrocks hurray at tjaalton \o/ | 10:15 | |
| seb128 | tjaalton, I guess you will SRU that fix as well? ;-) | 10:15 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yeah, in some form | 10:16 |
| seb128 | great | 10:16 |
| tjaalton | there's a test for this in intel-gpu-tools git, so no need to run compiz and hope it happens (in order to verify the backport) :) | 10:17 |
| mitya57 | pitti: hi, re bug 1055295: the new gnome-panel still has .mo files stripped out, did you really fix that? | 10:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1055295 in ubuntu-translations "Translation files are no longer installed in quantal" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055295 | 10:27 |
| pitti | mitya57: it's not supposed to have .mo files (i. e. stripping is working) | 10:27 |
| pitti | langpacks are supposed to have gnome-panel | 10:27 |
| pitti | mitya57: it's a known bug, will be fixed with the next langpack update | 10:28 |
| pitti | (bug in LP) | 10:28 |
| mitya57 | why should gnome-panel translations be in langpacks? | 10:28 |
| mitya57 | because of edubuntu? :) | 10:29 |
| seb128 | mitya57, because translators asked for it (things in langpacks can get translations updates via launchpad without needing a source upload) | 10:30 |
| seb128 | mitya57, it also allows translators to translate strings from distro patches | 10:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hum, I installed "libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-websites-integration", on next opening firefox opened tab for each extension I've installed asking if I want to install those ... is that expected? | 10:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no, that's bug 1058209. i've no idea why it happens yet | 10:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1058209 in webapps-greasemonkey "firefox re-installs Add-ons everytime I restart Ubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058209 | 10:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, thanks | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | but your addon database is totally f**ked now (ie, all of your addons are now marked as third party) | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | you'll need to uninstall them and manually reinstall them to fix that | 10:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well, I'm in that broken state so I can help debugging if you need somebody who gets the issue | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | the problem is that the addon database is already broken now :/ | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure how it gets in to that state | 10:34 |
| seb128 | ok, so I can just start my firefox? | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, you'll probably get asked to reenable your addons again if you restart | 10:34 |
| seb128 | ** (firefox:9047): WARNING **: Failed to open webapp application path dir /usr/local/share/unity-webapps/userscripts: Error opening directory '/usr/local/share/unity-webapps/userscripts': No such file or directory | 10:35 |
| seb128 | hum | 10:35 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, are there any errors in the error console? (assuming you've not restarted yet) | 10:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, sorry, I restarted... | 10:36 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, never mind :/ | 10:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll try and reproduce it here, but i've not managed to so far | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, what other addons do you have installed? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, greasemonkey firebug flashblocker were the only ones | 10:39 |
| seb128 | greasemonkey was disabling to workaround the segfault I pinged you about last week | 10:39 |
| seb128 | oh and testpilot | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, mind setting a path for "extensions.log" in about:config, so that addon manager errors are written to a file? | 10:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what key is that? I've a extensions.logging.enabled but it's a bool | 10:46 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I do not know whether you can approve packages into Quantal, I have uploaded a cups package to the queue to fix the three known crash bugs. | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, you need to create a new string preference | 10:46 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: no, I don't; the release team should regularly review the pending uploads | 10:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that doesn't seem to work, I set a "extensions.log;/home/seb128/.mozilla/debug" | 10:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, but no such file after restarting firefox | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, it will get created on the first error that the addon manager logs to the console | 10:49 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:49 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| tkamppeter | Laney, hi | 10:55 |
| Laney | hello | 10:55 |
| Laney | I'll review the queue this afternoon | 10:55 |
| Laney | ;-) | 10:56 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, are you working on avahi-daemon? Whenever CUPS is started avahi-daemon runs up to 100% CPU. How can one debug this? | 10:58 |
| Laney | no I'm not, sorry | 10:58 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, who is it? | 10:58 |
| Laney | nobody in particular afaik | 10:59 |
| tkamppeter | Anyone knows how to debug avahi-daemon? | 10:59 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| tkamppeter | Whoever accepted CUPS, thank you for doing it so quickly. | 11:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i really feel like drinking tea | 11:42 |
| chrisccoulson | that's unusual | 11:43 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| Sweetshark | seb128: you got mail. Signing off for hibernate now. | 12:20 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, great job, thanks for the work and for the status update, enjoy your deserved sleep ;-) | 12:22 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, I can do manual testing and have a look to the diff ... where is it? | 12:22 |
| dpm | hey all, I'm not sure how important this package is, but could someone look at bug 1048985 to ensure a .pot file is built and translations are shipped? Thanks. | 12:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1048985 in gtk-vnc "The gtk-vnc package needs to generate a .pot file during the build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048985 | 12:28 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey, thanks for pointing it | 12:34 |
| desrt | seb128, larsu: did you find my branch? | 12:36 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:36 |
| larsu | desrt, hm, I wasn't looking for it :) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | neither was I ;-) | 12:36 |
| larsu | ha | 12:36 |
| seb128 | https://code.launchpad.net/~desrt/indicator-appmenu/lp1042824 | 12:36 |
| desrt | ya. that one :) | 12:36 |
| desrt | larsu: your turn to review (and test) :) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | desrt, things don't show up until you merge propose them usually | 12:36 |
| desrt | oh right | 12:37 |
| desrt | i always forget about that one :) | 12:37 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:37 |
| desrt | anyway... this is a pre-proposal :) | 12:37 |
| * desrt wants lars to take a look since it's actually his branch | 12:37 | |
| larsu | I'll have a look in a minute | 12:37 |
| seb128 | desrt, can you https://code.launchpad.net/~desrt/indicator-appmenu/lp1042824/+register-merge ? ;-) | 12:43 |
| desrt | no | 12:43 |
| seb128 | that will give us a nice diff, etc | 12:43 |
| desrt | i want larsu to look it over | 12:43 |
| desrt | and possibly add more changes | 12:43 |
| seb128 | well, you can iterate over a merge request, and at least it gives you a diff on launchpad to look at | 12:44 |
| larsu | how can I turn off those "do you want to turn this into a webapp" notifications in firefox? | 12:44 |
| larsu | they are annoying! | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | larsu, yeah, i know. that's nothing to do with firefox though ;) | 12:44 |
| desrt | https://code.launchpad.net/~desrt/indicator-appmenu/lp1042824/+merge/127261 | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | that's the unity webapps stuff | 12:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, uninstall xul-ext-websites-integration | 12:45 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, sure, I'm complaining about the plugin | 12:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, or wait for the webapp guys to fix it, they are just looking at those bugs (the U.S guys are just getting online) | 12:45 |
| larsu | seb128, I don't want to uninstall webapps | 12:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, send a patch? :p | 12:45 |
| desrt | larsu: i've been starting the hud-awareness work on top of this branch | 12:45 |
| larsu | it seems like a design decision to ask me everytime, instead of a bug | 12:46 |
| seb128 | larsu, no, it's a bug | 12:46 |
| desrt | larsu: it starts to occur to me that (a) we are growing a lot of redundancy wrt. app_menu_model vs. menubar_model and (b) the use of app_menu_model (and 'application' action group) in the indicator case is a bit weird | 12:46 |
| larsu | seb128, it shoudn't ask me? | 12:46 |
| larsu | desrt, actionmuxer! | 12:46 |
| seb128 | larsu, it should ask you once, and respect your "yes" or "no" | 12:47 |
| desrt | larsu: stop that :p | 12:47 |
| larsu | seb128, there's no yes/no, there's only "install" and a close button | 12:47 |
| larsu | oh, there's a "don't ask again" | 12:47 |
| larsu | why is that inside a popup menu? | 12:47 |
| desrt | larsu: geesh. all you ever do is complain about canonical-written software | 12:48 |
| larsu | desrt, it would fit beautifully | 12:48 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 12:48 |
| larsu | desrt, s/written/designed | 12:48 |
| chrisccoulson | larsu, they're just using the standard popup notification API in firefox, which gives you a popup menu ;) | 12:48 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, got it. I'd be much happier if the status bar would gain an icon when unity integration is available | 12:49 |
| seb128 | desrt, I can complain about GNOME code as well if you want ;-) | 12:49 |
| larsu | instead of the popover | 12:49 |
| desrt | seb128: new nautilus is pretty cool! | 12:49 |
| desrt | as it turns out... | 12:49 |
| larsu | desrt, seriously? | 12:49 |
| chrisccoulson | larsu, yeah, this is an abuse of the popup notification system tbh. it's meant for stuff that really needs your attention immediately | 12:49 |
| chrisccoulson | not for asking random questions | 12:49 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, and we want many websites to offer integration. So potentially every website I visit asks me this question.... | 12:50 |
| desrt | larsu: ya. i kinda like it. | 12:50 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 12:50 |
| didrocks | larsu: I'm getting the webapps team to fix it and test what they ship… | 12:51 |
| didrocks | for once :) | 12:51 |
| larsu | didrocks, hehe. Amazing | 12:51 |
| didrocks | larsu: and you only saw one bug on 4 we filed and marked critical this morning :p | 12:51 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, can you get them to fix bug 1059441 too please? :) | 12:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059441 in webapps-greasemonkey "Firefox 15.0.1 Crash Report [@ proxy_LookupGeneric ] " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059441 | 12:52 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: ah, popey didn't get to reproduce the crash | 12:52 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: adding to the list | 12:52 |
| larsu | didrocks, I don' really mind the bugs (it's new software after all), but the popover that I see every time I visit a web page | 12:52 |
| chrisccoulson | and also ensure that they're checking https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/ regularly.... | 12:52 |
| didrocks | larsu: I do mind that PS is pushing things on ubuntu which never worked for weeks :) | 12:53 |
| larsu | didrocks, I'm not saying that's a good thing. Just that that wasn't what I complained about ;) | 12:53 |
| * larsu tries to complain about one thing at a time | 12:54 | |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, they don't need to reproduce it. i can tell you what the crash is already ;) | 12:54 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a callback going out of scope and being garbage collected | 12:54 |
| chrisccoulson | they just need to track that down and fix their memory management | 12:55 |
| chrisccoulson | easy :) | 12:55 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: if it's easy, can you maybe talk to them about the exact place of the issue? :) | 12:56 |
| desrt | DELAY THE RELEASE!! | 12:56 |
| didrocks | desrt: zomg? ;) | 12:57 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, maybe. although, i didn't really plan to be spending time on this :) | 12:57 |
| didrocks | desrt: no, it's too early for that, you have that in a week :) | 12:57 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: well, maybe it's better to work together the get quantal in the best shape? | 12:57 |
| dpm | hey Sweetshark, do you know if there is any workaround or fix scheduled for bug 1049025. It currently makes it extremely awkward to do the basic operation of selecting text with the mouse. I've had to actually install Word on a VM for my girlfriend to avoid her ditching Ubuntu altogether. You can help me regain an Ubuntu user and save a relationship! ;-) | 12:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1049025 in libreoffice "Can't select text/highlight using mouse" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049025 | 12:57 |
| popey | didrocks, yeah, haven't reproduced it yet | 12:59 |
| popey | seb128, where would I file a bug in the popup that comes up when you try to logout and an app (like U1 file sync) wants to supress the logout? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | popey, what about those? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | popey, the popup themself (like their ui,wording) or the fact that the app triggers one? | 13:00 |
| popey | seb128, e.g. if u1 is syncing files and I want to logout now it pops up a box, I click "logout anyway" and it doesn't. | 13:01 |
| seb128 | gnome-session | 13:01 |
| popey | thanks! | 13:01 |
| seb128 | it doesn't even if you wait? | 13:01 |
| seb128 | here it takes sometime up to a minute | 13:01 |
| seb128 | but it usually does | 13:01 |
| popey | yes, it does if you wait | 13:01 |
| popey | but the dialog gives no indication that waiting is part of the process | 13:01 |
| seb128 | right, gnome-session in any case | 13:02 |
| popey | ta | 13:02 |
| seb128 | but it's one of those bugs I doubt anyone will look at | 13:02 |
| popey | heh | 13:02 |
| popey | noted :) | 13:02 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson: got this one earlier https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/d054b980-5092-4bf2-9fcd-11da82121001 - is it the same as before? | 13:02 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, possibly. i'm not sure because there's no stack data for the top 4 frames. but i imagine that it is | 13:03 |
| Laney | ta | 13:04 |
| larsu | desrt, reusing hud_menu_model_context_get_action_name to stitch together namespaces is kind of weird (at first, I thought you lost support for nested namespaces) | 13:17 |
| desrt | larsu: i agree, slightly | 13:24 |
| desrt | for this reason: | 13:24 |
| desrt | for composing action names, you expect "win." + NULL to be equal to NULL | 13:24 |
| desrt | (ie: no action, no action, regardless of namespace) | 13:24 |
| desrt | for namespaces, you expect "win." + NULL to equal "win." | 13:24 |
| desrt | (ie: no namespace, just use the one already there) | 13:24 |
| desrt | i implement the second logic | 13:24 |
| desrt | and avoid it being problematic in the first case by not creating HudItems unless action is non-NULL | 13:25 |
| larsu | why not do the namespace-stitching in place where you need it? | 13:25 |
| larsu | i.e. in context_new | 13:26 |
| larsu | also, I'd add a comment that the context is immutable. Otherwise your ref-when-same-as-parent thing in context_new falls apart | 13:27 |
| desrt | i am doing the stitching in context_new() | 13:27 |
| desrt | via a call to the other function | 13:27 |
| larsu | I mean, do it without the call | 13:27 |
| larsu | oh well, not a biggie | 13:27 |
| desrt | why? it's exactly what the call does :) | 13:27 |
| larsu | it does have the problem you described | 13:28 |
| desrt | but it's not used in that case for the other thing | 13:28 |
| desrt | so it's not really a problem... | 13:28 |
| larsu | except it's confusing your reviewer! | 13:28 |
| desrt | no it's not | 13:28 |
| desrt | you just like to complain about all canonical-written software | 13:28 |
| larsu | not true: I tend to really like some canonical-written software | 13:29 |
| desrt | just not the hud? | 13:29 |
| desrt | i guess i can understand that | 13:29 |
| larsu | anyway: the third thing I noticed: if you're saving the prefix in the instance now, why are you still explicitly passing it into add_model? | 13:30 |
| desrt | because in the recursive stage it will be different | 13:30 |
| desrt | ie: we call add_model() every time we see a new submenu menu item. the prefix we give there should be the text of that item | 13:31 |
| desrt | like App > File > Recent Documents > etc... | 13:31 |
| desrt | it's going to be different at each step | 13:31 |
| larsu | true, sorry about that | 13:31 |
| larsu | desrt, still, I'd move the add_model call in new_for_endpoint to the end, when collector is fully initialized | 13:32 |
| desrt | lemme take a look | 13:33 |
| desrt | i think you're right | 13:33 |
| desrt | but that's where you put it :p | 13:33 |
| larsu | otherwise it's much better than before, thanks. Should I approve the MR or are you still adding things to that branch? | 13:33 |
| desrt | still adding | 13:33 |
| desrt | but no harm merging what's here | 13:33 |
| desrt | did you test it much? | 13:34 |
| larsu | I tested it | 13:34 |
| desrt | okay | 13:34 |
| desrt | i didn't ;) | 13:34 |
| * larsu goes test some more | 13:34 | |
| larsu | I'll merge it, with the one change of moving the add_model call down | 13:35 |
| desrt | great | 13:35 |
| desrt | my other stuff doesn't go near there | 13:35 |
| larsu | just push it into a different branch on lp when you're done | 13:35 |
| desrt | yup | 13:37 |
| larsu | desrt, about your earlier observation: I think we should separate the indicatorsource from the menumodel source | 13:40 |
| desrt | ya. i was thinking so | 13:40 |
| desrt | it's too late to get into that kind of thing, but ya.... | 13:40 |
| larsu | the question is: how do we share the menumodel-searching bits | 13:40 |
| desrt | it's quite easy | 13:41 |
| desrt | i was a bit annoyed with the approach you took at first, fwiw | 13:41 |
| desrt | but i can't really blame you since i sort of pushed it that way myself | 13:41 |
| larsu | I didn't know the code base well enough when I started this patch | 13:41 |
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| desrt | but in short that we should have is an indicator souce and an app (window?) source | 13:41 |
| larsu | and I thought, "ah, menumodelcollector, seems like the right place" | 13:42 |
| desrt | and a dbusmenucollector and a gmenumodelcollector | 13:42 |
| desrt | the dbusmenu/menumodel collectors should just work on object paths | 13:42 |
| desrt | one object path | 13:42 |
| larsu | yeah that makes sense | 13:42 |
| desrt | the indictor and app sources would be responsible for instantiating (and dispatching to) the appropriate menu collectors | 13:42 |
| larsu | we should put that on the todo list of $INDICATOR_APPMENU_MAINTAINER | 13:42 |
| desrt | this sort of abstraction will become more important when apps start having non-menu sources of huditems | 13:43 |
| desrt | the current architecture is a bit of a hold-over from the original version of the code | 13:43 |
| larsu | yup, and then we just add a new collector for whatever protocol we choose | 13:43 |
| desrt | i should have burned it to the ground and started fresh | 13:43 |
| desrt | but i rather rewrote it one-class-at-a-time | 13:44 |
| desrt | so a bit of the old design stayed | 13:44 |
| desrt | anyway... i also want to make a 'collector' a specific kind of source | 13:44 |
| desrt | we have two distinct types of hudsources right now | 13:44 |
| desrt | ones that only pass searches down to other sources (like the 'list' source) | 13:45 |
| desrt | and ones that actually do searches over lists of huditems | 13:45 |
| desrt | all of the second type are called 'collector' in their name | 13:45 |
| desrt | which is the distinction... | 13:45 |
| desrt | but it's not formalised | 13:45 |
| desrt | would be nice if we created a collector class that actually maintained the list of huditems instead of having to duplicate the code for that | 13:45 |
| desrt | particularly because then we could get more clever about change notifications | 13:45 |
| desrt | ie: not needing to redo the entire search just because some (possibly-unrelated) menu item was added | 13:46 |
| larsu | sound good. I wonder who will ever have the time to do this, though | 13:47 |
| desrt | rumour has it jussi is on hud duty next cycle | 13:47 |
| popey | chrisccoulson, got my firefox crash.. can I/you find it in their database if I "Tell mozilla.." and add my email address? | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | popey, no, i can only find it by crash ID (from about:crashes) | 13:50 |
| popey | chrisccoulson, 4cffb435-d5d5-c5fc-6947443b-0b75a603 | 13:52 |
| popey | that was after clicking "install" on launchpad.net for the webapps integration | 13:53 |
| Laney | classic | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | popey, hmmm, that id doesn't return anything :/ | 13:54 |
| popey | yeah, mozilla says "throttling" | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | do you get anything if you try to click the link? | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | popey, i guess it's bug 1059441 | 13:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059441 in webapps-greasemonkey "Firefox 15.0.1 Crash Report [@ proxy_LookupGeneric ] " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059441 | 13:54 |
| popey | :( | 13:55 |
| larsu | desrt, good thing I tested again :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253916/ | 13:58 |
| desrt | ahh! | 13:59 |
| desrt | thanks :) | 13:59 |
| desrt | underscores? | 13:59 |
| larsu | yep | 13:59 |
| desrt | Sweetshark: hey... did your guys ever integrate that hud-awareness code i sent them? | 14:00 |
| desrt | i'm about to land the other half in the hud | 14:07 |
| desrt | without it it's unlikely that we'll have working libreoffice + hud | 14:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 14:11 |
| mterry | seb128, hello! | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, happy monday! how are you? | 14:11 |
| mterry | seb128, good. What's up? | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you notice bugs assigned to you or when you get Cced (just wondering if I should ping you on IRC as well when I want your input,;look on something) | 14:12 |
| mterry | seb128, I should see them. Is there a bug I didn't comment on? | 14:12 |
| mterry | seb128, (you talking about the loading circle one?) | 14:12 |
| mterry | I hadn't seen that behavior in the past, so I'm updating to make sure I have latest of everything | 14:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, nothing, you didn't comment on, I just assigned you those: | 14:13 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1051946 | 14:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1051946 in unity-greeter "onboard should be launched everytime after user enabled it in unity-greeter" [Medium,In progress] | 14:13 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1059447 | 14:13 |
| seb128 | 14:13 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1059447 in unity-greeter "loading circle (in login authentication) is enlarged, out of its size" [High,Confirmed] | 14:13 |
| mterry | Yeah, saw that too | 14:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, and I was wondering if I should IRC ping as well | 14:13 |
| seb128 | cool | 14:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, well, GtkSpinner were broken and not spinning due to Gtk,Theme until friday | 14:13 |
| mterry | seb128, no, assigning or subscribing should be enough | 14:14 |
| mterry | seb128, true | 14:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, which is probably why you didn't see it before ;-) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, thanks | 14:14 |
| mterry | it was spinning a little bit, but yeah, if there was a theme update, I believe it could break us | 14:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, other quick one, software-properties-gtk is back as a system settings icon ... do you know if that's wanted? (we dropped it in precise) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | e.g design decision or bug? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | mterry, other quick one, software-properties-gtk is back as a system settings icon ... do you know if that's wanted? (we dropped it in precise) | 14:16 |
| mterry | seb128, no, I don't know if that's intentional | 14:16 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 14:16 |
| mterry | seb128, I didn't do it intentionally anyway | 14:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 14:17 |
| seb128 | revno: 781 | 14:17 |
| seb128 | committer: Didier Roche <didier.roche@canonical.com> | 14:17 |
| seb128 | * data/software-properties-gtk.desktop.in: | 14:17 |
| seb128 | - show software-properties in gnome-control-center | 14:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: it is intentional | 14:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: now that jockey isn't | 14:18 |
| seb128 | hum, I doubt anyone is going to look for drivers under "software sources" | 14:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 14:18 |
| seb128 | but oh, well, if that's what design wants... | 14:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: it was discussed here, not sure with who and no time to check the logs :) | 14:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, don't worry, I was just wanted to check if that was wanted, it is, moving on ;-) | 14:19 |
| jbicha | Software Source really needs some keywords for drivers | 14:22 |
| jbicha | we should remember to leave breadcrumbs behind when we move stuff around | 14:22 |
| jbicha | it is mentioned in the Release Notes but who reads that? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey, how are you? | 14:23 |
| jbicha | seb128: hey, I'm doing fine, looking forward to Boston in a few days | 14:24 |
| seb128 | oh, you are going to boston summit, great ;-) | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, are you going too? | 14:26 |
| jbicha | https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012/Participants | 14:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, nah, I don't fancy flying over the atlantic when I don't need to and just before release is not a good time | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | ah :) | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, surely just before the release is the best time? (for you, anyway) ;) | 14:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, not to mention that it's more of a hackfest than a conf and I'm not really involved in any of the things they will hack on | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i wasn't really sure what it involved ;) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's sort of rh's distro sprint it seems :p | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 14:34 |
| jbicha | lol, well I'll go spy on them then ;) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ;-) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | jbicha: you did receives all the bugs to record everything, isn't it? :) | 14:44 |
| jbicha | not yet, maybe in today's mail? | 14:46 |
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| didrocks | :) | 14:51 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-otp | ||
| chrisccoulson | i love it when a bug turns out to be not my fault: bug 1035755 :) | 15:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1035755 in libdbusmenu-qt "Extension causes context/drop down menus to disappear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035755 | 15:34 |
| Fifo | Hi | 15:37 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Hi Jeremy! | 15:58 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Did you notice my resubmission of https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/precise/ubuntu-docs/SRU-guest-session-fix/+merge/127151 ? Any chance that we can agree on that SRU-MP as well? ;-) | 15:58 |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: sorry, precise docs are frozen, we're not going to add new content or even fix typos at this point | 16:03 |
| jbicha | breaking the docs freeze breaks translations which would require the translators to re-translate those new strings and they aren't expecting to have to do that when they're trying to work on quantal translations | 16:05 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Ok ... by frozen, do you mean frozen frozen or frozen until the 12.04.1 release? | 16:08 |
| jbicha | frozen frozen, we don't really have a good system for how we handle fixing docs post-docs-string-freeze | 16:09 |
| jbicha | GNOME has an advantage in that their docs don't freeze weeks before release; they can keep fixing things for several weeks after release | 16:10 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: I realize that an exception in this case might lead to untranslated strings in some translations. OTOH, considering that the target document is English only, that wouldn't be a disaster would it? | 16:17 |
| jbicha | no, that wouldn't be a disaster but it's not ideal either | 16:22 |
| jbicha | what we need is a policy for how we handle post-docs-string-freeze corrections or additions: what fixes are important enough? how much time do translators need? what are the actions required? | 16:23 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Sounds like a topic for ubuntu-doc. Would you like me to start such a discussion? | 16:25 |
| GunnarHj | Or would you prefer to introduce the topic yourself? | 16:26 |
| jbicha | I probably won't get to it for a while, so you're welcome to take on the topic if you like and start drafting the policy | 16:27 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Ok, I'll try to do something... The usual reward when you suggest something, right? ;-) | 16:48 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: All respect for your great work with keeping the docs in order! | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | tedg: the apparmor profiles for freerdp and uccsconfigure should allow chromium to run, correct? | 17:10 |
| tedg | jdstrand, I believe so, they're exactly the same as the guest session ones. | 17:11 |
| tedg | Haven't tested though. | 17:12 |
| jdstrand | ok, I am making changes to the guest session ones, so need to make them here too | 17:12 |
| tedg | jdstrand, Yeah, I think that it would make sense for you guys to make some abstractions for the guest stuff. | 17:12 |
| jdstrand | that is part of it | 17:12 |
| tedg | jdstrand, That way we can lock them all down at the same time. | 17:12 |
| tedg | Ah, cool. Then don't mind me :-) | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webapps-greasemonkey/+bug/1058209/comments/19 | 17:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1058209 in webapps-greasemonkey "firefox re-installs Add-ons everytime I restart Ubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson | that's bad | 17:17 |
| chrisccoulson | so, missing cookies and broken addon manager are all the same bug | 17:21 |
| chrisccoulson | because the storage service in firefox fails to initialize after installing webapps :/ | 17:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, likely to be an easy to fix issue? | 17:40 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128, i hope so. see my last comment on the bug ;) | 17:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, great ;-) thanks for working on that! | 17:48 |
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| seb128 | mterry, \o/ | 18:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks for the unity-greeter fixes | 18:46 |
| mterry | :) | 18:46 |
| mterry | seb128, no problem, sorry you had to waste some time uploading the session chooser one right before I did an upstream release. I had been holding off until some merges landed, but you couldn't have known that | 18:46 |
| mterry | seb128, do you know who on the the Desktop team is going to the GNOME Boston Summit? | 18:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, no worry, it took like 10min and the issue was annoying me personally ;-) | 18:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, you? | 18:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, otherwise nobody from Canonical I think | 18:48 |
| mterry | seb128, I plan to for some of it. My Saturday is busy, but hopefully I'll pop in on Sunday/Monday | 18:48 |
| seb128 | or desrt if you count him as Canonicaler | 18:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha will be there as well | 18:48 |
| mterry | seb128, OK. jbicha is going too now | 18:48 |
| mterry | yeah | 18:48 |
| seb128 | mterry, https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012/Participants | 18:48 |
| mterry | oh whoops, should add myself I suppose | 18:48 |
| seb128 | yeah :) | 18:49 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, i love being able to download an ISO in a little over 90 seconds :) | 18:58 |
| mterry | seb128, I'm going to look at some unassigned bugs from the q-tracking list unless you've got something special you want me to look at | 19:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, nothing special, q-tracking or top errors.ubuntu.com issues | 19:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, if you feel like doing gvfs hacking we have a gvfs-fuse errors out on double free when unmounting | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | mterry: if you're familiar with online accounts I may need help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1049028 | 19:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1049028 in gnome-online-accounts "Unable to create gmail account" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | (but it's just that I haven't gotten to it yet, busy with another ugly visible bug in evo) | 19:11 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, mterry: we don't support goa, please upstream those issues but don't spend too much time on it | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:11 |
| chrisccoulson | is this "everyone assign work to mterry day" today? | 19:11 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 19:11 |
| mterry | :-/ | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | nah ;) | 19:11 |
| mterry | :) | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | seb128: will do | 19:12 |
| seb128 | thanks | 19:12 |
| cyphermox | it's just very very ugly and confusing, caused by two prominent checkboxes when adding accounts, and enabled by default ;) | 19:12 |
| seb128 | did you try talking to mbarnes about it? | 19:13 |
| mterry | seb128, what's the double free bug? | 19:15 |
| mterry | bug 1053561 ? | 19:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1053561 in gvfs "gvfsd-fuse assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfsd-fuse: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x00007f79a0022140 ***" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053561 | 19:15 |
| seb128 | mterry, bug #1053561 | 19:16 |
| seb128 | mterry, bah, you got me ;-) | 19:16 |
| seb128 | mterry, that and a stack of other issues | 19:16 |
| seb128 | well, I think lot of recent bugs are the same issue | 19:16 |
| seb128 | mterry, it seems to happen on unmount | 19:17 |
| mterry | k | 19:17 |
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