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[16:43] <Abdallah> Al Salam Alikoum !
[16:43] <Abdallah> Any body there ?!
[17:03] <os_> Abdallah:
[17:03] <os_> وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله
[17:04] <Abdallah> لو سمحت انا كنت عايز مساعدة اي حد في الأسكندرية
[17:04] <os_> هههه
[17:04] <os_> أنا في دوما
[17:04] <Abdallah> ؟
[17:04] <os_> هعهه هذي في سوريا :]
[17:05] <Abdallah> الله معكم !
[17:05] <os_> دعك من هذا :)
[17:05] <os_> تسلم
[17:06] <Abdallah> عموما, انا عايز اعمل اي مجتمع يدعو أوبنتو و لينكس فس كليتي
[17:06] <Abdallah> في*
[17:06] <os_> يدعو ؟
[17:06] <Abdallah> انا عملت بريزينتشين عن لينكس
[17:06] <Abdallah> يدعم*
[17:06] <os_> همم
[17:07] <os_> نحنا عندنا قال بدهون ينزلو أبونتو في منهاج السابع
[17:07] <os_> طيب طيب
[17:07] <Abdallah> الصف السابع = أول اعدادي عندنا ؟
[17:07] <os_> نعم
[17:08] <os_> وحدة كاملة عن أبونتو
[17:08] <os_> أبونتو 11.10
[17:09] <Abdallah> ما شاء الله, انا بستخدم لينكس من اول ثانوي... و حاولت اغير اجهزة مدرستي للينكس, بس الأدارة رفضت بسبب عقود الصيانة... حاجة ...
[17:09] <Abdallah> عظيم
[17:09] <os_> لك شو عظيم !
[17:10] <os_> يا رجل عندنا ناس لا تملك كمبيوتر في ا
[17:10] <os_> يا رجل عندنا ناس لا تملك كمبيوتر في منزلها
[17:10] <os_> وتقدم مادة معلوماتية
[17:10] <os_> ويا دوبها بويندوز !
[17:11] <Abdallah> يا الله... احنا معنداش مدرين معلوملتية أساسا في مدارسنا, يا خي !
[17:11] <os_> :)
[17:11] <os_> معكم معكم !!
[17:11] <Abdallah> على اي حال !
[17:11] <Abdallah> عندك اي افكار للمساعدتي !
[17:11] <os_> Abdallah: d4de HazRPG Pronco seiflotfy thelinuxer1 Tux-Tn
[17:12] <os_> أي واحد في الاسكندرية
[17:12] <os_> ؟
[17:12] <d4de> ...
[17:12] <Abdallah> تسلم :)
[17:12] <Abdallah> يا سكندرانيه !!!!!
[17:12] <os_> d4de: اسكندراوي ؟
[17:12] <Abdallah> ايون !
[17:13]  * os_ هو فيه إيه ؟؟ خخخخ
[17:13] <d4de> nop, I'm from bora bora
[17:13] <thelinuxer1> Ahlan Abdallah :)
[17:13] <Abdallah> Ahlan, Finally !
[17:13] <thelinuxer1> can u please join this group on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntueg/
[17:13] <Abdallah> Alexandrian ?!
[17:13] <thelinuxer1> sorry for being late work stuff
[17:13] <thelinuxer1> no I am not
[17:13] <thelinuxer1> I am from Cairo
[17:13] <Abdallah> No problem at all ! :)
[17:14] <thelinuxer1> Join the group and ask for people in Alex
[17:14] <thelinuxer1> isA you'll find a few
[17:14] <Abdallah> Any way i think you can help, i'm already in the group, like the FB page, follow on twitter, and joined the mailing list ! :)
[17:14] <Abdallah> okay, thanks !
[17:14] <thelinuxer1> That's pretty cool :)
[17:15] <thelinuxer1> Abdallah: I will mention one of our active members in Alex as a comment on your post
[17:15] <thelinuxer1> to get his attention
[17:15] <Abdallah> I wanted to ask about something, and i think you could help !
[17:16] <Abdallah> That's amazing, Thanks !
[17:16] <thelinuxer1> Abdallah: np shoot
[17:17] <Abdallah> How can i organize an installation party , or whatever !
[17:18] <thelinuxer1> it depends on the size, target audience and money you have
[17:18] <thelinuxer1> u can prepare a simple day with only 2 sessions
[17:18] <thelinuxer1> introducing people to Ubuntu
[17:18] <thelinuxer1> or for instance if it's gonna be in some CS faculty then u gonna need some programming sessions
[17:19] <Abdallah> i'm already gave good presentation for Gnu/Linux, on my class mates in the college, they are around 30, and they are getting so eager to install Ubuntu, on their machine
[17:19] <thelinuxer1> usually u gonna need clearance from your faculty to allow you to prepare the installation fest
[17:20] <thelinuxer1> and you gonna need volunteers to help with the Q&A and install the OS on the attendees laptops
[17:20] <thelinuxer1> and be careful and always tell people to take backups
[17:20] <thelinuxer1> and give them a big disclaimer that you're not responsible for their data cause anything can go wrong :)
[17:21] <thelinuxer1> we now stopped using the term install fest because most people can install Linux nowadays by themselves without help
[17:21] <thelinuxer1> we usually use the term Release Party or OSDay (open source day)
[17:21] <Abdallah> about the clearance, it's so easy, the dean is a Linux fan, and the department head, also i have 3 Linuxers there to help
[17:21] <thelinuxer1> pretty cool
[17:21] <thelinuxer1> that's a big problem usually
[17:22] <Abdallah> and how much it going to cost, and i need money for what !?
[17:22] <thelinuxer1> just make a call for volunteers, get the clearance, and prepare the presentations and do it
[17:22] <thelinuxer1> ok the money part
[17:22] <thelinuxer1> if ur gonna distribute printed material (which is usually good)
[17:22] <thelinuxer1> or distribute CDs
[17:23] <thelinuxer1> print banners
[17:23] <thelinuxer1> print flyers or posters to publicize the event
[17:23] <thelinuxer1> this kind of stuff ..
[17:24] <Abdallah> Okay, that's good think to know
[17:24] <Abdallah> So, there are any ready materials and flyers or presentation to download and use !
[17:24] <thelinuxer1> but anyways some people make these events without paying a single penny
[17:25] <Abdallah> Really, How ?!
[17:26] <thelinuxer1> they don't make any printed materials
[17:26] <thelinuxer1> no banners no posters
[17:26] <thelinuxer1> just use the word of mouth to publicize the event
[17:27] <thelinuxer1> usually these events are small like ~50 attendees or something
[17:28] <Abdallah> Oh, That's good, and i think it may works for me !
[17:28] <thelinuxer1> :)
[17:29] <Abdallah> About the presentations, it's a good thing to compare between Ubuntu and MS Windows alot, or just don't mention it, and what's the important point to stress on, with these windows users !?
[17:30] <Abdallah> Ta3'baak ma3aya ! :)
[17:30] <os_> هل يسمحون بالامتحانات المصرية
[17:30] <os_> بتقديم ورقة الإجابة
[17:31] <thelinuxer1> don't do a comparison between windows and linux
[17:31] <thelinuxer1> just offer the alternatives
[17:31] <os_> والكتابة عليها بالأبجدية الانجليزية :
[17:31] <os_> il-jawab al-awal :
[17:31] <thelinuxer1> os_: yes :) my whole life I have been studying in English
[17:32] <thelinuxer1> Abdallah: alternatives will be just fine, and don't offend anyone
[17:32] <os_> هههه
[17:32] <thelinuxer1> if u have some MSPs (Miscrosoft Student Partners), talk with them and don't offend them in any matter
[17:33] <Abdallah> I have plenty of MSPs there !, 5 MSPs
[17:33] <thelinuxer1> expected ..
[17:34] <thelinuxer1> If they attack you just be patient
[17:34] <thelinuxer1> and try to know more about free software philosophy and how a country like Egypt need this
[17:34] <thelinuxer1> this is all really really important
[17:36] <Abdallah> I'm reading about this alot lately, i just we really to ry this, i'm sure that it will make save alot of money, as Brazil, Cuba and china and other countries did !
[17:36] <thelinuxer1> yes
[17:36] <thelinuxer1> Rabena ma3ak :)
[17:37] <Abdallah> honestly, they just trying to show off, since the first day in the our department Orientation day !, they were so ....., just want to do a kind of brainwash.
[17:38] <Abdallah> allah e7'aleek, anyway, thanks for your time, Mr. Ahmed !
[17:39] <Abdallah> i really appreciate it, and i hope i didn't bother you ! :)
[17:39] <thelinuxer1> just Ahmed or Toulan whatever suites u :)
[17:39] <thelinuxer1> u aren't bothering me
[17:39] <thelinuxer1> and contact me if u need any help
[17:40] <Abdallah> For sure,Ya Toulan !
[17:40] <Abdallah> Thanks again, i'm sorry but i got to go !
[17:40] <thelinuxer1> Abdallah: salam :)
[17:40] <Abdallah> good bye !
[17:41] <Abdallah> Salam !
[17:58] <os_> thelinuxer1: شو قرر صاحبنا ؟
[17:58] <thelinuxer1> os_: حيعمل الحدث إن شاء الله
[17:59] <os_> أتخيل !
[17:59] <os_> عندنا قال بدهون يعملو وحدة كاملة عن أبونتو في الأول الإعدادي
[17:59] <thelinuxer1> إيه ده بجد ؟
[18:00] <os_> إيه
[18:00] <os_> هو لا أجد ضرورة لذلك في سوريا
[18:00] <thelinuxer1> قصدى غريبة إنه يتعمل وحدة كاملة أوبونتو فى مدرسة فى بلد عربى
[18:00] <os_> نعم
[18:01] <os_> عندنا النسخ الأصلية من ويندوز تعد كالطوابع النادرة
[18:01] <os_> لذا لم أفهم لم هذه الخطوة
[18:01] <thelinuxer1> بس ده شئ جميل
[18:01] <os_> لا مو كثير
[18:01] <os_> هلق بدهون يعملوه على أبونتو 11.10
[18:02] <thelinuxer1> كله حلو :)
[18:02] <os_> وهذا يتطلب أن كلما تحدثت التوزيعة تحديث الكتاب
[18:02] <os_> وهذا لا يقدر عليه أبدا
[18:02] <os_> قصدي ... سيصدر أبونتو 18.10
[18:02] <thelinuxer1> مهو فيه مشروع ubuntu-manual.org
[18:02] <os_> ونظل ندرس 11.10
[18:03] <thelinuxer1> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[18:03] <thelinuxer1> بس محتاج ترجمة عربية
[18:03] <os_> قصدي تكاليف إصدار المنهاج من جديد
[18:04] <os_> عندنا بعض الكتب تظل 30 سنة نفس الطبعة تقريبا
[18:04] <thelinuxer1> أغلب المنهج مش حيحتاج تغيير
[18:04] <os_> تخيل أبونتو تخلت فجأة عن يونتي
[18:05] <os_> وصدرت جنوم 4 . x
[18:05] <thelinuxer1> لو حصل ترجمة للكتاب ده حيكون شئ جميل و متابع لكل الإصدارات
[18:05] <os_> وصدرت جنوم 4.x
[18:05] <os_> لا أتكلم عن الكتاب manual
[18:05] <os_> أتكلم عن مقرر دراسي !
[18:05] <thelinuxer1> قصدى ده ممكن يساعد بشكل كبير
[18:05] <os_> إيييييييييييه يا رجل
[18:06] <os_> نحنا ما نلحق نترجم برامج
[18:06] <os_> بدك يانا نترجم توثيق !!
[18:06] <thelinuxer1> مهو لازم نتعب شوية :)
[18:06] <os_> إيييييييييييه يا رجل
[18:07] <os_> فيه منظمة عرب آيز أصدرت برنامج لدعم العربية في الطرفية
[18:07] <os_> أخر إصدار من 2004
[18:07] <os_> ولديه علل هامة
[18:07] <os_> قلة مطورين !
[18:08] <os_> حصلت على مصدره .. وأنا أتعلم c لأطوره