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dholbach | good morning | 06:26 |
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pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: you about? | 15:03 |
pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: let me know when you are and we can publish :) | 15:05 |
JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: I am now :) | 15:06 |
pleia2 | ok cool | 15:07 |
JoseeAntonioR | want to do it now? | 15:07 |
pleia2 | yeah, can you g hangout? | 15:08 |
JoseeAntonioR | sure, one sec | 15:08 |
pleia2 | my time is somewhat limited to small sections today, so we need to start soon | 15:13 |
JoseeAntonioR | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1f5f1cc640b12d49b18669088a2e0a10543ec864?authuser=0&hl=en# | 15:13 |
pleia2 | ok, we'll see if I can screen share when I don't start it :) | 15:14 |
pleia2 | "We're having trouble connecting " heh | 15:16 |
pleia2 | great | 15:16 |
JoseeAntonioR | :P | 15:16 |
pleia2 | "Sorry we weren't able to resolve the issue." | 15:16 |
pleia2 | ok, I give up :) | 15:16 |
pleia2 | we'll just do it here again | 15:17 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, no prob | 15:17 |
pleia2 | (plus then others can follow along! :)) | 15:17 |
pleia2 | so, you want to look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies | 15:17 |
JoseeAntonioR | has that been updated? | 15:17 |
pleia2 | up through 7 is done | 15:17 |
pleia2 | it's updated constantly | 15:18 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok :)\ | 15:18 |
pleia2 | while we're going through this I'll make any additional edits required | 15:18 |
JoseeAntonioR | Unit193: around? | 15:19 |
pleia2 | there are a few link checkers around, he'll usually check it but if not I just google search for another | 15:19 |
pleia2 | (I have one running now) | 15:20 |
pleia2 | so while that runs, you can if you want run spellcheck by copying the contents into a program that does spellcheck (like libreoffice) | 15:20 |
pleia2 | but the editors tend to be good about that and it's very tedious to skip all the package names ;) so I tend to depend on the editors | 15:21 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok | 15:22 |
pleia2 | Credits should be good, everyone knows to add themselves if they wish to be listed, just need to make sure here "Add your name here" is not still listed :) | 15:22 |
pleia2 | now I'll edit it to add "in this issue" | 15:22 |
pleia2 | what is put in here is at the decretion of the editor, so I just select a bunch of links | 15:22 |
pleia2 | remember: the links must be *exactly* what is show in the table of contents, since a fridge script later uses it to generate links automatically | 15:23 |
JoseeAntonioR | yeah, we had troubles with that last time | 15:23 |
pleia2 | while I'm doing this, I'll also remove ## Coments in the document and the "work in progress" header | 15:23 |
pleia2 | well, we always have trouble with links breaking, that's the script :) | 15:24 |
JoseeAntonioR | and add the issue number at the beggining of the document | 15:24 |
pleia2 | not perfect for utf-8 yet | 15:24 |
* pleia2 nods | 15:24 | |
JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: in the title of the article about Maia Grotepass' post, Ubuntu goes with capital U | 15:26 |
pleia2 | no, we never edit the titles of posts | 15:26 |
JoseeAntonioR | oh | 15:26 |
pleia2 | we copy them exactly as the author wrote them | 15:26 |
pleia2 | she didn't capitalize, we don't :) | 15:26 |
JoseeAntonioR | *mental note taken* | 15:27 |
pleia2 | same with quoting text from authors, we don't alter direct quotes, even if there is grammar or spelling errors | 15:27 |
pleia2 | (generally we just try not to quote parts that have errors :)) | 15:27 |
pleia2 | ok, now I've finished that, the list of "In this issue" stuff has to end with exactly this phrase: And much more! | 15:27 |
pleia2 | (the fridge script matches on that) | 15:27 |
JoseeAntonioR | great | 15:27 |
pleia2 | (adding the note about subjects and quotes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines) | 15:28 |
JoseeAntonioR | the link checker gave me a bunch of 403s | 15:29 |
pleia2 | are they wiki links? | 15:29 |
pleia2 | you have to manually go through and look at the link report, wiki links don't like crawlers, so we just have to assume they are fine | 15:30 |
pleia2 | I didn't find any errors that were real | 15:30 |
pleia2 | ok, it's time to run the publish script, do you have the latest uwn code from bzr? | 15:32 |
JoseeAntonioR | yeah, they're wiki links | 15:32 |
JoseeAntonioR | erm, let me update | 15:32 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, got it | 15:34 |
pleia2 | ok great, open up publish-uwn.pl | 15:34 |
pleia2 | at the bottom, comment out the line that calls the fridge script | 15:35 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok | 15:35 |
pleia2 | so: #system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue"); | 15:35 |
JoseeAntonioR | commented | 15:35 |
pleia2 | this script is a little wonky sometimes, so we call it separately | 15:35 |
pleia2 | now do: perl publish-uwn.pl | 15:35 |
JoseeAntonioR | wasn't it perl publish-uwn.pl 285? | 15:36 |
pleia2 | err | 15:36 |
pleia2 | now do: perl publish-uwn.pl 285 | 15:36 |
pleia2 | I hit enter while I was going to check the issue number :) | 15:36 |
JoseeAntonioR | error 500 | 15:36 |
JoseeAntonioR | certificate verify failed | 15:36 |
pleia2 | ok, open up the script again | 15:36 |
pleia2 | right under: use Text::Unidecode; | 15:37 |
pleia2 | put this: $ENV{'PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME'} = 0; | 15:37 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, done and running again | 15:37 |
pleia2 | now, sometimes on the first run it chokes halfway through processing, so I usually have to run it twice | 15:37 |
pleia2 | check issues/285/ubuntu-news.email to make sure it's complete (just go to the bottom of the file and look for the license) | 15:38 |
JoseeAntonioR | it's complete, but it hasn't got any line breaks | 15:38 |
JoseeAntonioR | at all | 15:38 |
pleia2 | what are you opening it with? | 15:39 |
JoseeAntonioR | gedit | 15:39 |
pleia2 | thats strange :( | 15:39 |
pleia2 | try vim? | 15:39 |
JoseeAntonioR | nope, no line breaks at all | 15:40 |
pleia2 | then maybe try running it again, not sure what could have happened | 15:40 |
JoseeAntonioR | same as before, no line breaks | 15:41 |
pleia2 | :( | 15:41 |
pleia2 | using 12.04? | 15:42 |
JoseeAntonioR | yep | 15:42 |
pleia2 | hm, ok | 15:42 |
pleia2 | well we can keep going, at least you'll know the process even if the script isn't working for you | 15:42 |
pleia2 | we can get nhandler to take a look | 15:42 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, then :) | 15:43 |
pleia2 | so first I'll send to ubuntu-news-team@ | 15:43 |
pleia2 | from my @ubuntu.com address, making sure to remove any personal signature | 15:44 |
pleia2 | then eyeball the text to make sure it looks ok | 15:44 |
JoseeAntonioR | and in plain text, right? | 15:44 |
pleia2 | yep | 15:45 |
pleia2 | and just added a note to the checklist "Confirm the mail didn't get stuck in the queue." ;) | 15:46 |
JoseeAntonioR | :P | 15:46 |
pleia2 | (forgot that last week!) | 15:46 |
pleia2 | but it's fine this time | 15:46 |
JoseeAntonioR | great | 15:46 |
JoseeAntonioR | although I haven't got the email, yet | 15:46 |
pleia2 | you can see it in the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-October/thread.html | 15:47 |
pleia2 | (that's the best place to check, since gmail won't send you a copy of mail you send out) | 15:47 |
JoseeAntonioR | oh, right! | 15:47 |
pleia2 | now the emails to -news-team and loco-contacts | 15:47 |
pleia2 | now irc | 15:49 |
pleia2 | The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue285 | 15:49 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, next's social media and forums+fridge posting | 15:51 |
pleia2 | did a quick fix for the social media section, UWN now has our own twitter, g+ and facebook pages | 15:51 |
pleia2 | so one of the social media admins handles that these days | 15:51 |
JoseeAntonioR | oh, that's cool! | 15:51 |
pleia2 | now forums, I open in gedit and do a search and replace: \n\n with \n | 15:51 |
pleia2 | I think only nhandler, akgraner and I have admin on forums to post this | 15:52 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, then | 15:53 |
pleia2 | ok, forums done | 15:54 |
pleia2 | now we'll run the fridge script | 15:54 |
pleia2 | someone with a username and password for fridge has to run this, there are also a lot of perl modules you need | 15:55 |
pleia2 | (maybe not a lot, but some) | 15:55 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, I got them last time | 15:55 |
pleia2 | ok, do you want to give it a try? | 15:55 |
pleia2 | first you have to open up fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl and put your username and password in | 15:55 |
JoseeAntonioR | done | 15:56 |
pleia2 | ok, now: perl publish-uwn-fridge.pl 285 | 15:56 |
pleia2 | only one person can run this, since it actually creates the draft :) | 15:56 |
JoseeAntonioR | urgh, same 500 error | 15:57 |
JoseeAntonioR | let me add that magic line | 15:57 |
pleia2 | ah, right | 15:57 |
pleia2 | I should check in that change when we're done here | 15:57 |
JoseeAntonioR | I got this two: | 15:57 |
JoseeAntonioR | Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 42. | 15:57 |
pleia2 | don't run it again though | 15:57 |
JoseeAntonioR | Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 50. | 15:57 |
pleia2 | yeah, the credits sometimes break and you have to add people manually | 15:58 |
pleia2 | the draft was generated in spite of the errors, if you run it again it'll create another draft and it gets messy :) | 15:58 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok! | 15:58 |
JoseeAntonioR | editing the draft and checking links | 15:58 |
pleia2 | great | 15:59 |
JoseeAntonioR | got 3 broken links, fixing now | 16:00 |
JoseeAntonioR | submitted for review now | 16:01 |
pleia2 | looks good, publishing | 16:03 |
JoseeAntonioR | great | 16:03 |
pleia2 | editing checklist page again to add changing the /Current link on the wiki | 16:05 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, and I'm changing those | 16:05 |
pleia2 | ok | 16:05 |
JoseeAntonioR | we have team reports the second week of each month, right? | 16:12 |
pleia2 | second or third | 16:12 |
pleia2 | depends on how the month ends up, we like to give people a lot of time | 16:12 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, is that announced somewhere? | 16:12 |
pleia2 | no | 16:13 |
pleia2 | looks good :) | 16:15 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok :) | 16:16 |
JoseeAntonioR | where are the bugs stats pulled from? | 16:16 |
JoseeAntonioR | is there a script for that? | 16:16 |
pleia2 | no, look at the source for the wiki page | 16:16 |
JoseeAntonioR | oh | 16:17 |
pleia2 | it describes how to do each section (translations is under overhaul though, at the moment we're using a stats/translations.py script) | 16:17 |
JoseeAntonioR | yeah, was about to ask that | 16:18 |
pleia2 | the translations.py script isn't very good because it's tracking all of launchpad :( but I *just* heard back from dpm the other day and now is not a good time to make a change, I'll take a closer look at revamping it when I return in November | 16:18 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, then | 16:19 |
JoseeAntonioR | about the updates part, are the scripts taking all the information of the month, or just of the week? | 16:19 |
pleia2 | just of the week | 16:19 |
pleia2 | you look at the past issue to see where it left off for all of them | 16:19 |
pleia2 | err, the scripts take the whole month | 16:19 |
pleia2 | we only paste in the week | 16:20 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok, cool | 16:20 |
pleia2 | so run script, look at past issue to see where it stopped, copy over from there forward | 16:20 |
JoseeAntonioR | I'll also make sure to remove 11.04 once it reaches EOL | 16:20 |
pleia2 | and add 12.10 :) | 16:20 |
JoseeAntonioR | ok! | 16:21 |
pleia2 | (but not until it's released) | 16:23 |
JoseeAntonioR | also need to change the translations part from quantal to Rxxxx | 16:23 |
JoseeAntonioR | yeah, saw that last release | 16:23 |
pleia2 | no, we just changed it to quantal | 16:25 |
pleia2 | translations just opened about a week ago | 16:25 |
JoseeAntonioR | great, then | 16:28 |
JoseeAntonioR | seems like that's all | 16:28 |
pleia2 | yep :) | 16:28 |
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Unit193 | JoseeAntonioR: Yes? | 18:39 |
JoseeAntonioR | Unit193: was going to ask for link checking | 18:39 |
Unit193 | Yep, figured. | 18:40 |
Unit193 | pleia2: If you wanted the crappy script I run, I could send it (just wouldn't recommend reading it, may make you cry) | 20:18 |
JoseeAntonioR | Unit193: I can help clean it, if you'd like | 20:23 |
JoseeAntonioR | which language is it written in?? | 20:25 |
Unit193 | It's a simple little thing, bash. | 20:25 |
Unit193 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12272420 ? | 21:32 |
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