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dholbachgood morning06:26
pleia2JoseeAntonioR: you about?15:03
pleia2JoseeAntonioR: let me know when you are and we can publish :)15:05
JoseeAntonioRpleia2: I am now :)15:06
pleia2ok cool15:07
JoseeAntonioRwant to do it now?15:07
pleia2yeah, can you g hangout?15:08
JoseeAntonioRsure, one sec15:08
pleia2my time is somewhat limited to small sections today, so we need to start soon15:13
JoseeAntonioRhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1f5f1cc640b12d49b18669088a2e0a10543ec864?authuser=0&hl=en#15:13
pleia2ok, we'll see if I can screen share when I don't start it :)15:14
pleia2"We're having trouble connecting " heh15:16
pleia2great15:16
JoseeAntonioR:P15:16
pleia2"Sorry we weren't able to resolve the issue."15:16
pleia2ok, I give up :)15:16
pleia2we'll just do it here again15:17
JoseeAntonioRok, no prob15:17
pleia2(plus then others can follow along! :))15:17
pleia2so, you want to look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies15:17
JoseeAntonioRhas that been updated?15:17
pleia2up through 7 is done15:17
pleia2it's updated constantly15:18
JoseeAntonioRok :)\15:18
pleia2while we're going through this I'll make any additional edits required15:18
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: around?15:19
pleia2there are a few link checkers around, he'll usually check it but if not I just google search for another15:19
pleia2(I have one running now)15:20
pleia2so while that runs, you can if you want run spellcheck by copying the contents into a program that does spellcheck (like libreoffice)15:20
pleia2but the editors tend to be good about that and it's very tedious to skip all the package names ;) so I tend to depend on the editors15:21
JoseeAntonioRok15:22
pleia2Credits should be good, everyone knows to add themselves if they wish to be listed, just need to make sure here "Add your name here" is not still listed :)15:22
pleia2now I'll edit it to add "in this issue"15:22
pleia2what is put in here is at the decretion of the editor, so I just select a bunch of links15:22
pleia2remember: the links must be *exactly* what is show in the table of contents, since a fridge script later uses it to generate links automatically15:23
JoseeAntonioRyeah, we had troubles with that last time15:23
pleia2while I'm doing this, I'll also remove ## Coments in the document and the "work in progress" header15:23
pleia2well, we always have trouble with links breaking, that's the script :)15:24
JoseeAntonioRand add the issue number at the beggining of the document15:24
pleia2not perfect for utf-8 yet15:24
* pleia2 nods15:24
JoseeAntonioRpleia2: in the title of the article about Maia Grotepass' post, Ubuntu goes with capital U15:26
pleia2no, we never edit the titles of posts15:26
JoseeAntonioRoh15:26
pleia2we copy them exactly as the author wrote them15:26
pleia2she didn't capitalize, we don't :)15:26
JoseeAntonioR*mental note taken*15:27
pleia2same with quoting text from authors, we don't alter direct quotes, even if there is grammar or spelling errors15:27
pleia2(generally we just try not to quote parts that have errors :))15:27
pleia2ok, now I've finished that, the list of "In this issue" stuff has to end with exactly this phrase: And much more!15:27
pleia2(the fridge script matches on that)15:27
JoseeAntonioRgreat15:27
pleia2(adding the note about subjects and quotes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines)15:28
JoseeAntonioRthe link checker gave me a bunch of 403s15:29
pleia2are they wiki links?15:29
pleia2you have to manually go through and look at the link report, wiki links don't like crawlers, so we just have to assume they are fine15:30
pleia2I didn't find any errors that were real15:30
pleia2ok, it's time to run the publish script, do you have the latest uwn code from bzr?15:32
JoseeAntonioRyeah, they're wiki links15:32
JoseeAntonioRerm, let me update15:32
JoseeAntonioRok, got it15:34
pleia2ok great, open up publish-uwn.pl15:34
pleia2at the bottom, comment out the line that calls the fridge script15:35
JoseeAntonioRok15:35
pleia2so: #system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue");15:35
JoseeAntonioRcommented15:35
pleia2this script is a little wonky sometimes, so we call it separately15:35
pleia2now do: perl publish-uwn.pl15:35
JoseeAntonioRwasn't it perl publish-uwn.pl 285?15:36
pleia2err15:36
pleia2now do: perl publish-uwn.pl 28515:36
pleia2I hit enter while I was going to check the issue number :)15:36
JoseeAntonioRerror 50015:36
JoseeAntonioRcertificate verify failed15:36
pleia2ok, open up the script again15:36
pleia2right under: use Text::Unidecode;15:37
pleia2put this: $ENV{'PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME'} = 0;15:37
JoseeAntonioRok, done and running again15:37
pleia2now, sometimes on the first run it chokes halfway through processing, so I usually have to run it twice15:37
pleia2check issues/285/ubuntu-news.email to make sure it's complete (just go to the bottom of the file and look for the license)15:38
JoseeAntonioRit's complete, but it hasn't got any line breaks15:38
JoseeAntonioRat all15:38
pleia2what are you opening it with?15:39
JoseeAntonioRgedit15:39
pleia2thats strange :(15:39
pleia2try vim?15:39
JoseeAntonioRnope, no line breaks at all15:40
pleia2then maybe try running it again, not sure what could have happened15:40
JoseeAntonioRsame as before, no line breaks15:41
pleia2:(15:41
pleia2using 12.04?15:42
JoseeAntonioRyep15:42
pleia2hm, ok15:42
pleia2well we can keep going, at least you'll know the process even if the script isn't working for you15:42
pleia2we can get nhandler to take a look15:42
JoseeAntonioRok, then :)15:43
pleia2so first I'll send to ubuntu-news-team@15:43
pleia2from my @ubuntu.com address, making sure to remove any personal signature15:44
pleia2then eyeball the text to make sure it looks ok15:44
JoseeAntonioRand in plain text, right?15:44
pleia2yep15:45
pleia2and just added a note to the checklist "Confirm the mail didn't get stuck in the queue." ;)15:46
JoseeAntonioR:P15:46
pleia2(forgot that last week!)15:46
pleia2but it's fine this time15:46
JoseeAntonioRgreat15:46
JoseeAntonioRalthough I haven't got the email, yet15:46
pleia2you can see it in the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-October/thread.html15:47
pleia2(that's the best place to check, since gmail won't send you a copy of mail you send out)15:47
JoseeAntonioRoh, right!15:47
pleia2now the emails to -news-team and loco-contacts15:47
pleia2now irc15:49
pleia2The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue28515:49
JoseeAntonioRok, next's social media and forums+fridge posting15:51
pleia2did a quick fix for the social media section, UWN now has our own twitter, g+ and facebook pages15:51
pleia2so one of the social media admins handles that these days15:51
JoseeAntonioRoh, that's cool!15:51
pleia2now forums, I open in gedit and do a search and replace: \n\n with \n15:51
pleia2I think only nhandler, akgraner and I have admin on forums to post this15:52
JoseeAntonioRok, then15:53
pleia2ok, forums done15:54
pleia2now we'll run the fridge script15:54
pleia2someone with a username and password for fridge has to run this, there are also a lot of perl modules you need15:55
pleia2(maybe not a lot, but some)15:55
JoseeAntonioRok, I got them last time15:55
pleia2ok, do you want to give it a try?15:55
pleia2first you have to open up fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl and put your username and password in15:55
JoseeAntonioRdone15:56
pleia2ok, now: perl publish-uwn-fridge.pl 28515:56
pleia2only one person can run this, since it actually creates the draft :)15:56
JoseeAntonioRurgh, same 500 error15:57
JoseeAntonioRlet me add that magic line15:57
pleia2ah, right15:57
pleia2I should check in that change when we're done here15:57
JoseeAntonioRI got this two:15:57
JoseeAntonioRUse of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 42.15:57
pleia2don't run it again though15:57
JoseeAntonioRUse of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 50.15:57
pleia2yeah, the credits sometimes break and you have to add people manually15:58
pleia2the draft was generated in spite of the errors, if you run it again it'll create another draft and it gets messy :)15:58
JoseeAntonioRok!15:58
JoseeAntonioRediting the draft and checking links15:58
pleia2great15:59
JoseeAntonioRgot 3 broken links, fixing now16:00
JoseeAntonioRsubmitted for review now16:01
pleia2looks good, publishing16:03
JoseeAntonioRgreat16:03
pleia2editing checklist page again to add changing the /Current link on the wiki16:05
JoseeAntonioRok, and I'm changing those16:05
pleia2ok16:05
JoseeAntonioRwe have team reports the second week of each month, right?16:12
pleia2second or third16:12
pleia2depends on how the month ends up, we like to give people a lot of time16:12
JoseeAntonioRok, is that announced somewhere?16:12
pleia2no16:13
pleia2looks good :)16:15
JoseeAntonioRok :)16:16
JoseeAntonioRwhere are the bugs stats pulled from?16:16
JoseeAntonioRis there a script for that?16:16
pleia2no, look at the source for the wiki page16:16
JoseeAntonioRoh16:17
pleia2it describes how to do each section (translations is under overhaul though, at the moment we're using a stats/translations.py script)16:17
JoseeAntonioRyeah, was about to ask that16:18
pleia2the translations.py script isn't very good because it's tracking all of launchpad :( but I *just* heard back from dpm the other day and now is not a good time to make a change, I'll take a closer look at revamping it when I return in November16:18
JoseeAntonioRok, then16:19
JoseeAntonioRabout the updates part, are the scripts taking all the information of the month, or just of the week?16:19
pleia2just of the week16:19
pleia2you look at the past issue to see where it left off for all of them16:19
pleia2err, the scripts take the whole month16:19
pleia2we only paste in the week16:20
JoseeAntonioRok, cool16:20
pleia2so run script, look at past issue to see where it stopped, copy over from there forward16:20
JoseeAntonioRI'll also make sure to remove 11.04 once it reaches EOL16:20
pleia2and add 12.10 :)16:20
JoseeAntonioRok!16:21
pleia2(but not until it's released)16:23
JoseeAntonioRalso need to change the translations part from quantal to Rxxxx16:23
JoseeAntonioRyeah, saw that last release16:23
pleia2no, we just changed it to quantal16:25
pleia2translations just opened about a week ago16:25
JoseeAntonioRgreat, then16:28
JoseeAntonioRseems like that's all16:28
pleia2yep :)16:28
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Unit193JoseeAntonioR: Yes?18:39
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: was going to ask for link checking18:39
Unit193Yep, figured.18:40
Unit193pleia2: If you wanted the crappy script I run, I could send it (just wouldn't recommend reading it, may make you cry)20:18
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: I can help clean it, if you'd like20:23
JoseeAntonioRwhich language is it written in??20:25
Unit193It's a simple little thing, bash.20:25
Unit193http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12272420 ?21:32

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