[06:26] <dholbach> good morning
[15:03] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: you about?
[15:05] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: let me know when you are and we can publish :)
[15:06] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I am now :)
[15:07] <pleia2> ok cool
[15:07] <JoseeAntonioR> want to do it now?
[15:08] <pleia2> yeah, can you g hangout?
[15:08] <JoseeAntonioR> sure, one sec
[15:13] <pleia2> my time is somewhat limited to small sections today, so we need to start soon
[15:13] <JoseeAntonioR> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1f5f1cc640b12d49b18669088a2e0a10543ec864?authuser=0&hl=en#
[15:14] <pleia2> ok, we'll see if I can screen share when I don't start it :)
[15:16] <pleia2> "We're having trouble connecting " heh
[15:16] <pleia2> great
[15:16] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[15:16] <pleia2> "Sorry we weren't able to resolve the issue."
[15:16] <pleia2> ok, I give up :)
[15:17] <pleia2> we'll just do it here again
[15:17] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, no prob
[15:17] <pleia2> (plus then others can follow along! :))
[15:17] <pleia2> so, you want to look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[15:17] <JoseeAntonioR> has that been updated?
[15:17] <pleia2> up through 7 is done
[15:18] <pleia2> it's updated constantly
[15:18] <JoseeAntonioR> ok :)\
[15:18] <pleia2> while we're going through this I'll make any additional edits required
[15:19] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: around?
[15:19] <pleia2> there are a few link checkers around, he'll usually check it but if not I just google search for another
[15:20] <pleia2> (I have one running now)
[15:20] <pleia2> so while that runs, you can if you want run spellcheck by copying the contents into a program that does spellcheck (like libreoffice)
[15:21] <pleia2> but the editors tend to be good about that and it's very tedious to skip all the package names ;) so I tend to depend on the editors
[15:22] <JoseeAntonioR> ok
[15:22] <pleia2> Credits should be good, everyone knows to add themselves if they wish to be listed, just need to make sure here "Add your name here" is not still listed :)
[15:22] <pleia2> now I'll edit it to add "in this issue"
[15:22] <pleia2> what is put in here is at the decretion of the editor, so I just select a bunch of links
[15:23] <pleia2> remember: the links must be *exactly* what is show in the table of contents, since a fridge script later uses it to generate links automatically
[15:23] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, we had troubles with that last time
[15:23] <pleia2> while I'm doing this, I'll also remove ## Coments in the document and the "work in progress" header
[15:24] <pleia2> well, we always have trouble with links breaking, that's the script :)
[15:24] <JoseeAntonioR> and add the issue number at the beggining of the document
[15:24] <pleia2> not perfect for utf-8 yet
[15:24]  * pleia2 nods
[15:26] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: in the title of the article about Maia Grotepass' post, Ubuntu goes with capital U
[15:26] <pleia2> no, we never edit the titles of posts
[15:26] <JoseeAntonioR> oh
[15:26] <pleia2> we copy them exactly as the author wrote them
[15:26] <pleia2> she didn't capitalize, we don't :)
[15:27] <JoseeAntonioR> *mental note taken*
[15:27] <pleia2> same with quoting text from authors, we don't alter direct quotes, even if there is grammar or spelling errors
[15:27] <pleia2> (generally we just try not to quote parts that have errors :))
[15:27] <pleia2> ok, now I've finished that, the list of "In this issue" stuff has to end with exactly this phrase: And much more!
[15:27] <pleia2> (the fridge script matches on that)
[15:27] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[15:28] <pleia2> (adding the note about subjects and quotes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines)
[15:29] <JoseeAntonioR> the link checker gave me a bunch of 403s
[15:29] <pleia2> are they wiki links?
[15:30] <pleia2> you have to manually go through and look at the link report, wiki links don't like crawlers, so we just have to assume they are fine
[15:30] <pleia2> I didn't find any errors that were real
[15:32] <pleia2> ok, it's time to run the publish script, do you have the latest uwn code from bzr?
[15:32] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, they're wiki links
[15:32] <JoseeAntonioR> erm, let me update
[15:34] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, got it
[15:34] <pleia2> ok great, open up publish-uwn.pl
[15:35] <pleia2> at the bottom, comment out the line that calls the fridge script
[15:35] <JoseeAntonioR> ok
[15:35] <pleia2> so: #system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue");
[15:35] <JoseeAntonioR> commented
[15:35] <pleia2> this script is a little wonky sometimes, so we call it separately
[15:35] <pleia2> now do: perl publish-uwn.pl
[15:36] <JoseeAntonioR> wasn't it perl publish-uwn.pl 285?
[15:36] <pleia2> err
[15:36] <pleia2> now do: perl publish-uwn.pl 285
[15:36] <pleia2> I hit enter while I was going to check the issue number :)
[15:36] <JoseeAntonioR> error 500
[15:36] <JoseeAntonioR> certificate verify failed
[15:36] <pleia2> ok, open up the script again
[15:37] <pleia2> right under: use Text::Unidecode;
[15:37] <pleia2> put this: $ENV{'PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME'} = 0;
[15:37] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, done and running again
[15:37] <pleia2> now, sometimes on the first run it chokes halfway through processing, so I usually have to run it twice
[15:38] <pleia2> check issues/285/ubuntu-news.email to make sure it's complete (just go to the bottom of the file and look for the license)
[15:38] <JoseeAntonioR> it's complete, but it hasn't got any line breaks
[15:38] <JoseeAntonioR> at all
[15:39] <pleia2> what are you opening it with?
[15:39] <JoseeAntonioR> gedit
[15:39] <pleia2> thats strange :(
[15:39] <pleia2> try vim?
[15:40] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, no line breaks at all
[15:40] <pleia2> then maybe try running it again, not sure what could have happened
[15:41] <JoseeAntonioR> same as before, no line breaks
[15:41] <pleia2> :(
[15:42] <pleia2> using 12.04?
[15:42] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[15:42] <pleia2> hm, ok
[15:42] <pleia2> well we can keep going, at least you'll know the process even if the script isn't working for you
[15:42] <pleia2> we can get nhandler to take a look
[15:43] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then :)
[15:43] <pleia2> so first I'll send to ubuntu-news-team@
[15:44] <pleia2> from my @ubuntu.com address, making sure to remove any personal signature
[15:44] <pleia2> then eyeball the text to make sure it looks ok
[15:44] <JoseeAntonioR> and in plain text, right?
[15:45] <pleia2> yep
[15:46] <pleia2> and just added a note to the checklist "Confirm the mail didn't get stuck in the queue." ;)
[15:46] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[15:46] <pleia2> (forgot that last week!)
[15:46] <pleia2> but it's fine this time
[15:46] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[15:46] <JoseeAntonioR> although I haven't got the email, yet
[15:47] <pleia2> you can see it in the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-October/thread.html
[15:47] <pleia2> (that's the best place to check, since gmail won't send you a copy of mail you send out)
[15:47] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, right!
[15:47] <pleia2> now the emails to -news-team and loco-contacts
[15:49] <pleia2> now irc
[15:49] <pleia2> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue285
[15:51] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, next's social media and forums+fridge posting
[15:51] <pleia2> did a quick fix for the social media section, UWN now has our own twitter, g+ and facebook pages
[15:51] <pleia2> so one of the social media admins handles that these days
[15:51] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, that's cool!
[15:51] <pleia2> now forums, I open in gedit and do a search and replace: \n\n with \n
[15:52] <pleia2> I think only nhandler, akgraner and I have admin on forums to post this
[15:53] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then
[15:54] <pleia2> ok, forums done
[15:54] <pleia2> now we'll run the fridge script
[15:55] <pleia2> someone with a username and password for fridge has to run this, there are also a lot of perl modules you need
[15:55] <pleia2> (maybe not a lot, but some)
[15:55] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, I got them last time
[15:55] <pleia2> ok, do you want to give it a try?
[15:55] <pleia2> first you have to open up fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl and put your username and password in
[15:56] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[15:56] <pleia2> ok, now: perl publish-uwn-fridge.pl 285
[15:56] <pleia2> only one person can run this, since it actually creates the draft :)
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> urgh, same 500 error
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> let me add that magic line
[15:57] <pleia2> ah, right
[15:57] <pleia2> I should check in that change when we're done here
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> I got this two:
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 42.
[15:57] <pleia2> don't run it again though
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 50.
[15:58] <pleia2> yeah, the credits sometimes break and you have to add people manually
[15:58] <pleia2> the draft was generated in spite of the errors, if you run it again it'll create another draft and it gets messy :)
[15:58] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[15:58] <JoseeAntonioR> editing the draft and checking links
[15:59] <pleia2> great
[16:00] <JoseeAntonioR> got 3 broken links, fixing now
[16:01] <JoseeAntonioR> submitted for review now
[16:03] <pleia2> looks good, publishing
[16:03] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[16:05] <pleia2> editing checklist page again to add changing the /Current link on the wiki
[16:05] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, and I'm changing those
[16:05] <pleia2> ok
[16:12] <JoseeAntonioR> we have team reports the second week of each month, right?
[16:12] <pleia2> second or third
[16:12] <pleia2> depends on how the month ends up, we like to give people a lot of time
[16:12] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, is that announced somewhere?
[16:13] <pleia2> no
[16:15] <pleia2> looks good :)
[16:16] <JoseeAntonioR> ok :)
[16:16] <JoseeAntonioR> where are the bugs stats pulled from?
[16:16] <JoseeAntonioR> is there a script for that?
[16:16] <pleia2> no, look at the source for the wiki page
[16:17] <JoseeAntonioR> oh
[16:17] <pleia2> it describes how to do each section (translations is under overhaul though, at the moment we're using a stats/translations.py script)
[16:18] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, was about to ask that
[16:18] <pleia2> the translations.py script isn't very good because it's tracking all of launchpad :( but I *just* heard back from dpm the other day and now is not a good time to make a change, I'll take a closer look at revamping it when I return in November
[16:19] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then
[16:19] <JoseeAntonioR> about the updates part, are the scripts taking all the information of the month, or just of the week?
[16:19] <pleia2> just of the week
[16:19] <pleia2> you look at the past issue to see where it left off for all of them
[16:19] <pleia2> err, the scripts take the whole month
[16:20] <pleia2> we only paste in the week
[16:20] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, cool
[16:20] <pleia2> so run script, look at past issue to see where it stopped, copy over from there forward
[16:20] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll also make sure to remove 11.04 once it reaches EOL
[16:20] <pleia2> and add 12.10 :)
[16:21] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[16:23] <pleia2> (but not until it's released)
[16:23] <JoseeAntonioR> also need to change the translations part from quantal to Rxxxx
[16:23] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, saw that last release
[16:25] <pleia2> no, we just changed it to quantal
[16:25] <pleia2> translations just opened about a week ago
[16:28] <JoseeAntonioR> great, then
[16:28] <JoseeAntonioR> seems like that's all
[16:28] <pleia2> yep :)
[18:39] <Unit193> JoseeAntonioR: Yes?
[18:39] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: was going to ask for link checking
[18:40] <Unit193> Yep, figured.
[20:18] <Unit193> pleia2: If you wanted the crappy script I run, I could send it (just wouldn't recommend reading it, may make you cry)
[20:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: I can help clean it, if you'd like
[20:25] <JoseeAntonioR> which language is it written in??
[20:25] <Unit193> It's a simple little thing, bash.
[21:32] <Unit193> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12272420 ?