=== philballew_ is now known as philballew [06:26] good morning [15:03] JoseeAntonioR: you about? [15:05] JoseeAntonioR: let me know when you are and we can publish :) [15:06] pleia2: I am now :) [15:07] ok cool [15:07] want to do it now? [15:08] yeah, can you g hangout? [15:08] sure, one sec [15:13] my time is somewhat limited to small sections today, so we need to start soon [15:13] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1f5f1cc640b12d49b18669088a2e0a10543ec864?authuser=0&hl=en# [15:14] ok, we'll see if I can screen share when I don't start it :) [15:16] "We're having trouble connecting " heh [15:16] great [15:16] :P [15:16] "Sorry we weren't able to resolve the issue." [15:16] ok, I give up :) [15:17] we'll just do it here again [15:17] ok, no prob [15:17] (plus then others can follow along! :)) [15:17] so, you want to look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies [15:17] has that been updated? [15:17] up through 7 is done [15:18] it's updated constantly [15:18] ok :)\ [15:18] while we're going through this I'll make any additional edits required [15:19] Unit193: around? [15:19] there are a few link checkers around, he'll usually check it but if not I just google search for another [15:20] (I have one running now) [15:20] so while that runs, you can if you want run spellcheck by copying the contents into a program that does spellcheck (like libreoffice) [15:21] but the editors tend to be good about that and it's very tedious to skip all the package names ;) so I tend to depend on the editors [15:22] ok [15:22] Credits should be good, everyone knows to add themselves if they wish to be listed, just need to make sure here "Add your name here" is not still listed :) [15:22] now I'll edit it to add "in this issue" [15:22] what is put in here is at the decretion of the editor, so I just select a bunch of links [15:23] remember: the links must be *exactly* what is show in the table of contents, since a fridge script later uses it to generate links automatically [15:23] yeah, we had troubles with that last time [15:23] while I'm doing this, I'll also remove ## Coments in the document and the "work in progress" header [15:24] well, we always have trouble with links breaking, that's the script :) [15:24] and add the issue number at the beggining of the document [15:24] not perfect for utf-8 yet [15:24] * pleia2 nods [15:26] pleia2: in the title of the article about Maia Grotepass' post, Ubuntu goes with capital U [15:26] no, we never edit the titles of posts [15:26] oh [15:26] we copy them exactly as the author wrote them [15:26] she didn't capitalize, we don't :) [15:27] *mental note taken* [15:27] same with quoting text from authors, we don't alter direct quotes, even if there is grammar or spelling errors [15:27] (generally we just try not to quote parts that have errors :)) [15:27] ok, now I've finished that, the list of "In this issue" stuff has to end with exactly this phrase: And much more! [15:27] (the fridge script matches on that) [15:27] great [15:28] (adding the note about subjects and quotes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines) [15:29] the link checker gave me a bunch of 403s [15:29] are they wiki links? [15:30] you have to manually go through and look at the link report, wiki links don't like crawlers, so we just have to assume they are fine [15:30] I didn't find any errors that were real [15:32] ok, it's time to run the publish script, do you have the latest uwn code from bzr? [15:32] yeah, they're wiki links [15:32] erm, let me update [15:34] ok, got it [15:34] ok great, open up publish-uwn.pl [15:35] at the bottom, comment out the line that calls the fridge script [15:35] ok [15:35] so: #system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue"); [15:35] commented [15:35] this script is a little wonky sometimes, so we call it separately [15:35] now do: perl publish-uwn.pl [15:36] wasn't it perl publish-uwn.pl 285? [15:36] err [15:36] now do: perl publish-uwn.pl 285 [15:36] I hit enter while I was going to check the issue number :) [15:36] error 500 [15:36] certificate verify failed [15:36] ok, open up the script again [15:37] right under: use Text::Unidecode; [15:37] put this: $ENV{'PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME'} = 0; [15:37] ok, done and running again [15:37] now, sometimes on the first run it chokes halfway through processing, so I usually have to run it twice [15:38] check issues/285/ubuntu-news.email to make sure it's complete (just go to the bottom of the file and look for the license) [15:38] it's complete, but it hasn't got any line breaks [15:38] at all [15:39] what are you opening it with? [15:39] gedit [15:39] thats strange :( [15:39] try vim? [15:40] nope, no line breaks at all [15:40] then maybe try running it again, not sure what could have happened [15:41] same as before, no line breaks [15:41] :( [15:42] using 12.04? [15:42] yep [15:42] hm, ok [15:42] well we can keep going, at least you'll know the process even if the script isn't working for you [15:42] we can get nhandler to take a look [15:43] ok, then :) [15:43] so first I'll send to ubuntu-news-team@ [15:44] from my @ubuntu.com address, making sure to remove any personal signature [15:44] then eyeball the text to make sure it looks ok [15:44] and in plain text, right? [15:45] yep [15:46] and just added a note to the checklist "Confirm the mail didn't get stuck in the queue." ;) [15:46] :P [15:46] (forgot that last week!) [15:46] but it's fine this time [15:46] great [15:46] although I haven't got the email, yet [15:47] you can see it in the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-October/thread.html [15:47] (that's the best place to check, since gmail won't send you a copy of mail you send out) [15:47] oh, right! [15:47] now the emails to -news-team and loco-contacts [15:49] now irc [15:49] The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue285 [15:51] ok, next's social media and forums+fridge posting [15:51] did a quick fix for the social media section, UWN now has our own twitter, g+ and facebook pages [15:51] so one of the social media admins handles that these days [15:51] oh, that's cool! [15:51] now forums, I open in gedit and do a search and replace: \n\n with \n [15:52] I think only nhandler, akgraner and I have admin on forums to post this [15:53] ok, then [15:54] ok, forums done [15:54] now we'll run the fridge script [15:55] someone with a username and password for fridge has to run this, there are also a lot of perl modules you need [15:55] (maybe not a lot, but some) [15:55] ok, I got them last time [15:55] ok, do you want to give it a try? [15:55] first you have to open up fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl and put your username and password in [15:56] done [15:56] ok, now: perl publish-uwn-fridge.pl 285 [15:56] only one person can run this, since it actually creates the draft :) [15:57] urgh, same 500 error [15:57] let me add that magic line [15:57] ah, right [15:57] I should check in that change when we're done here [15:57] I got this two: [15:57] Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 42. [15:57] don't run it again though [15:57] Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 50. [15:58] yeah, the credits sometimes break and you have to add people manually [15:58] the draft was generated in spite of the errors, if you run it again it'll create another draft and it gets messy :) [15:58] ok! [15:58] editing the draft and checking links [15:59] great [16:00] got 3 broken links, fixing now [16:01] submitted for review now [16:03] looks good, publishing [16:03] great [16:05] editing checklist page again to add changing the /Current link on the wiki [16:05] ok, and I'm changing those [16:05] ok [16:12] we have team reports the second week of each month, right? [16:12] second or third [16:12] depends on how the month ends up, we like to give people a lot of time [16:12] ok, is that announced somewhere? [16:13] no [16:15] looks good :) [16:16] ok :) [16:16] where are the bugs stats pulled from? [16:16] is there a script for that? [16:16] no, look at the source for the wiki page [16:17] oh [16:17] it describes how to do each section (translations is under overhaul though, at the moment we're using a stats/translations.py script) [16:18] yeah, was about to ask that [16:18] the translations.py script isn't very good because it's tracking all of launchpad :( but I *just* heard back from dpm the other day and now is not a good time to make a change, I'll take a closer look at revamping it when I return in November [16:19] ok, then [16:19] about the updates part, are the scripts taking all the information of the month, or just of the week? [16:19] just of the week [16:19] you look at the past issue to see where it left off for all of them [16:19] err, the scripts take the whole month [16:20] we only paste in the week [16:20] ok, cool [16:20] so run script, look at past issue to see where it stopped, copy over from there forward [16:20] I'll also make sure to remove 11.04 once it reaches EOL [16:20] and add 12.10 :) [16:21] ok! [16:23] (but not until it's released) [16:23] also need to change the translations part from quantal to Rxxxx [16:23] yeah, saw that last release [16:25] no, we just changed it to quantal [16:25] translations just opened about a week ago [16:28] great, then [16:28] seems like that's all [16:28] yep :) === philballew_ is now known as philballew [18:39] JoseeAntonioR: Yes? [18:39] Unit193: was going to ask for link checking [18:40] Yep, figured. [20:18] pleia2: If you wanted the crappy script I run, I could send it (just wouldn't recommend reading it, may make you cry) [20:23] Unit193: I can help clean it, if you'd like [20:25] which language is it written in?? [20:25] It's a simple little thing, bash. [21:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12272420 ?