[08:24] <czajkowski> jibel: ping
[08:27] <czajkowski> jibel: can you reply when you're about, the team name ubuntu-qa actually belongs to a locoteam Qatar as does #ubunt-qa we pointed this out a while back to people but it wasn't changed and now the team is active they are requesting the names for them as all locoteams follow a strict naming and iso channel set up
[08:27] <smartboyhw> Ah.......
[08:27] <smartboyhw> czajkowski, good info
[08:28] <czajkowski> so this team cant be set up correctly which is having a knock on effect on other areas.
[08:29] <jibel> czajkowski, I think the irc channel #ubuntu-qa is freee, we moved everything to ubuntu-testing a while ago. I don't know if there was anything planned and what can be done for the ML. balloons can you help ? ^
[08:29] <jibel> *free
[08:30] <czajkowski> jibel: ok curretly that channel automaticaly redirects folks here
[08:30] <czajkowski> we would also need to rename your team https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa
[08:30] <czajkowski> ubuntu-testing or something
[08:30] <czajkowski> as again this is the iso code for the locoteam
[08:32] <smartboyhw> czajkowski, er balloons got a testing team already
[08:32] <czajkowski> well something will have to be changed :)
[08:33] <jibel> czajkowski, I understand. QA is also Quality Assurance :) That'll need some discussion. We can talk with balloons when he's up as he is now in charge of the QA community where these channels belong to.
[08:33] <czajkowski> jibel: ok just pked you as you're the owner on LP
[08:33]  * smartboyhw thinks balloons has already done enough
[08:33] <czajkowski> but would like to clear this up ASAP as the team cant set up other things till the LP part is also resolved.
[08:33] <jibel> czajkowski, sure, no problem, thanks for bringing this up.
[08:34] <smartboyhw> czajkowski, er actually balloons want to trash the LP ubutnu-qa team I think:P
[08:34] <czajkowski> smartboyhw: lets hear from him till then
[08:35] <jibel> smartboyhw, right, looks like the right time to do it :)
[08:35] <smartboyhw> jibel, :P
[14:38]  * smartboyhw wonders where is balloons today
[18:11] <silverarrow> hi
[18:24] <phillw> hi silverarrow I keep missing you! only the PPC server edition got a Beta2 release, we were still chasing the graphic chip issues that affected both nVidea (one bug) and Radeon (totally different bug)....
[18:25] <silverarrow> do you know if ubuntu should have a side panel in live cd?
[18:26] <silverarrow> i am in yesterdays daily
[18:26] <phillw> as they manifested them selves similarly, it has taken some time to work out what is wrong. The nVidea one should be sorted, I'm just awaiting a final decision as to where to chase the other issue up.
[18:26] <phillw> silverarrow: I have not tested Ubuntu this cycle.
[18:26] <silverarrow> I used the suggestion in the mail, seem to work
[18:27] <silverarrow> live video=radeonfb:1024x768-32@60
[18:27] <silverarrow> and coherent destop !!
[18:27] <phillw> silverarrow: if you ask on #ubuntu+1 they sould be able to answer the question about side panel... be polite and be patient on that area (I know you always are :) )
[18:29] <phillw> balloons: are you about today at all, or is it (m)eating all day? :)
[18:31] <balloons> phillw, meating :-)
[18:31] <balloons> but not all day
[18:31] <balloons> there is hackery as well
[18:31] <phillw> give me a ping if you get free :)
[19:33] <balloons> phillw, ping
[19:35] <phillw> balloons: I need permission to edit / re-write sections of the ppc server... some of the tests are wrong and some are N/A
[19:36] <balloons> ahh..
[19:37] <balloons> well, we keep version history, so rollback is easy :-)
[19:37] <phillw> I have enough time with the sole server-ppc tester (one of the lubuntu dev type people) to get this done. Question is, will server-ppc be accepted if the tests it is asked to perform be okay?
[19:37] <balloons> there was discussion just the other day about server ppc
[19:37] <balloons> I am not remembering it persay sadly
[19:37] <balloons> however, what do you mean accepted?
[19:37] <phillw> for example... "Check if you have an Intel i386 or AMD64 chipset"
[19:38] <balloons> as in a build published? It won' t be a a supported build, but you know that :-)
[19:38] <phillw> balloons: it was just as beta2 was heading out and Kate accepted that as ppc issues were graphical and the server would install it would pass.
[19:39] <phillw> but Kate does want a full set of 'passed'. It was then I was told some of tests are factually incorrect
[19:40] <phillw> balloons: so there is no point testing and approving server-ppc?
[19:49] <balloons> phillw, no it's important to get the tests correct
[19:49] <balloons> else the release team won't let it go
[19:49] <balloons> I just wondered what you meant by 'accepted'
[19:50] <phillw> balloons: Check if you have an Intel i386 or AMD64 chipset will always fail.
[19:50] <balloons> yes, if you change the tests, just make sure you can pass them
[19:50] <balloons> that's the goal.. good tests, that make sense, and you need to meet to ship an image
[19:50] <balloons> obviously they need work
[19:50] <balloons> :-0
[19:51] <phillw> I'll pull them onto the sandbox, and go through them on a VM.
[19:53] <phillw> the guy who pointed it out is busy Mon - Thur, he used to grab an hour out on Wednesday for the Lubuntu weekly meeting. So, if I can get all the ducks in a row for server-ppc, it will be okay?
[19:54] <phillw> balloons: btw, how long do we get for RC? both in theory (which has failed every time) and in practice for the RC?
[19:54] <balloons> I don't see why not. I can help you make sure the testcases are updated if needed and are all properly marked
[19:54] <balloons> but you should have the power to do all of that :-)
[19:55] <balloons> we technically only have a final rc
[19:55] <phillw> the person approving them is a sys admin for a large company... if he passes them.. they're good to go :D
[19:55] <balloons> I don't know if they will decided to do anything between now and then
[19:55] <balloons> as far as deadlines for testing
[19:56] <balloons> so I would say you'll have the usual week.. but even more if you start early :-)
[19:56] <phillw> balloons: that was not quite what I meant... the release candidates for milestones were 'supposed' to come out on Fridays, that would allow people the weekend to test.
[19:56] <phillw> we have not had that.
[19:56] <balloons> ohh
[19:56] <balloons> heh
[19:56] <balloons> yea, not a good thing
[19:57] <balloons> i dont' see that happeneing anymore this cycle
[20:00] <phillw> balloons: and on the good news side, PPC seems to be settling down. I just need to ask Adam if he would pull together the various bits and pieces so I can go ask #ubuntu-x about getting a fix into the regression that occured.
[22:49] <phillw> balloons: poke