| Sarvatt | ehoover: no need, googling it turned up the wine bug, easy test case attached there :) | 03:23 |
|---|---|---|
| Sarvatt | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31406 | 03:24 |
| ubottu | bugs.winehq.org bug 31406 in directx-d3d "Borderlands freezes in game when items details are displayed" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] | 03:24 |
| ehoover | Awesome, do you guys need anything else from me? | 03:24 |
| Sarvatt | nope! thanks again for that | 03:25 |
| ehoover | No, thank you guys so much for looking into it! | 03:25 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 07:25 |
| tjaalton | yo | 07:25 |
| mlankhorst | ok q-lts-backport updated to recent stack :p | 07:32 |
| mlankhorst | I think armhf would work too, but there was some fun interaction between the ti-omap ppa that will prevent it from working for now | 07:32 |
| tjaalton | x11-xserver-utils with xrandr snapshot uploaded | 07:33 |
| mlankhorst | needs a custom xorg-server + updated EGL binaries | 07:33 |
| tjaalton | heh | 07:33 |
| mlankhorst | which is about good enough to upload it to q-lts-backport I suppose, needs some solution for libgl1 though | 07:36 |
| mlankhorst | is it ok if I make people specify the solution manually for now? | 07:39 |
| tjaalton | what do you mean? | 07:39 |
| tjaalton | for arm? | 07:39 |
| mlankhorst | seems to require apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-quantal libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-quantal for now, else it removes a bunch of stuff | 07:40 |
| mlankhorst | but that was testing on arm, which doesn't use libgl | 07:40 |
| mlankhorst | I think I found the solution though if the abi requires different packaging in fglrx | 08:20 |
| mlankhorst | if there are conflicting packages they are simply deleted, and only added back if another package explicitly requires it | 08:20 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: should we upload qxl/r128/mga to satisfy those with ocd in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html ? | 08:34 |
| tjaalton | ocd? | 08:40 |
| mlankhorst | obsessive compulsive | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | ah | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | -qxl needs newer spice | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | dunno if it's in yet, there's a ffe for it | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | ah | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | hmm, so -qxl will be an issue | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | should probably drop it from -video-all for the backports | 08:53 |
| tjaalton | or backport spice too.. | 08:53 |
| popey | is there an alternative to xrestop? it seems there's a bug in it upstream which causes it to kill x when you run it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851885 | 08:56 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 851885 in xorg-x11-server "xrestop crashes X" [Unspecified,New] | 08:56 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: I thought it was only a build-depends, though.. | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: how do you satisfy the b-dep without providing the binaries? | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | api changed | 08:58 |
| jcristau | popey: if xrestop crashes X that can't possibly be a bug in xrestop. | 08:59 |
| popey | jcristau, ok, noted :) | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | popey: yeah, please file it against the xserver | 09:13 |
| tjaalton | -r128 6.9.1 uploaded | 09:31 |
| tjaalton | and -mga 1.6.2 | 09:38 |
| mlankhorst | yay | 09:41 |
| popey | ok tjaalton | 09:45 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: we could just drop qxl for the backport, it's meant for new hardware enablement so no point in porting it | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: yeah | 09:49 |
| mlankhorst | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107849042/Stacktrace.txt oh fun | 10:07 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: ping? | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | where's that from? | 10:13 |
| mlankhorst | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1014419 | 10:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1014419 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in FreeGrab()" [Medium,New] | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | that's kinda old | 10:14 |
| mlankhorst | oh :p | 10:14 |
| tjaalton | i mean, we've gone via 1.12 to 1.13 now :) | 10:14 |
| mlankhorst | yeah | 10:14 |
| mlankhorst | but was looking at it because the backtrace was interesting and something that could theoretically still happen | 10:15 |
| mlankhorst | not sure if -core would help here | 10:15 |
| mlankhorst | oh another bug valgrind found in intel *sigh* | 11:35 |
| tjaalton | impossible :) | 12:09 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: can you upload intel? | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: yup, done | 12:40 |
| mlankhorst | thanks | 12:40 |
| mlankhorst | ok seems xorg-server is clean now on my intel system, *tries ati* | 12:46 |
| tjaalton | valgrind-wise? | 12:47 |
| mlankhorst | yeah just a lot of scary warnings from ioctl's | 12:47 |
| mlankhorst | maybe I should add some valgrind annotations to libdrm, so it will shut up about the ioctl's | 12:48 |
| mlankhorst | nouveau seems ok too | 13:22 |
| mlankhorst | argh just as I give it a all clear ati decides to crash on me, evil ati :( | 14:41 |
| ehoover | Sarvatt: There's a testcase for bug 1059276 that just used XCB directly, would you like me to update the description to link to that instead? | 17:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1059276 in libxcb (Ubuntu) "Wine locks up when running multithreaded applications that touch both OpenGL and X11" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059276 | 17:43 |
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| Sarvatt | did i enable the patch system properly in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118032526/libxcb_1.8.1-1ubuntu1.debdiff ? | 18:58 |
| Sarvatt | ehoover: yeah can ya just add that one too? | 18:58 |
| ehoover | Sarvatt: I don't know what you're asking (sorry, was down in the lab). | 19:08 |
| Sarvatt | ya said you had a testcase that uses xcb directly? | 19:08 |
| jcristau | Sarvatt: there's one attached to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54671 | 19:13 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 54671 in Library "Wine locks up when running multithreaded applications that touch both OpenGL and X11" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 19:13 |
| ehoover | Yeah, I've just finished adding the XCB test case to the description. | 19:16 |
| ehoover | I meant the "did i enable the patch system properly"? | 19:17 |
| ehoover | Sarvatt: oops, it looks like I might have overriden your description changes. | 19:18 |
| Sarvatt | no biggie, had them saved | 19:18 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, on bug 1059276, need sponsorship? | 20:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1059276 in libxcb (Ubuntu) "Wine locks up when running multithreaded applications that touch both OpenGL and X11" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059276 | 20:17 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: would be much appreciated, but the ppa finally finished publishing so i'm about to try it out now first to be sure it fixes the test cases | 20:19 |
| Sarvatt | had to use a ppa because its a pain in the butt building those for both arches :P | 20:19 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, okie doke. Ping me if/when you're ready for uploads | 20:19 |
| Sarvatt | these humble games make me desperately want delta debs :) | 20:20 |
| Sarvatt | redownloading 2gb just for a package dependency change is a PITA | 20:20 |
| mlankhorst | heya | 20:21 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: both test cases pass, ship it! | 20:22 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: it's nuts how much you play that game :) | 20:22 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: doing it with a friend, not alone | 20:23 |
| mlankhorst | helping him test the mod he's writing for a school project | 20:23 |
| Sarvatt | oh only 148 hours.. seems like every time i log in you're in it :) RAOF has you beat in civ 5! | 20:23 |
| mlankhorst | if it was alone I would have been long bored with it | 20:23 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: because you log in when I play :p | 20:24 |
| mlankhorst | and it's evening here lol | 20:24 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: wow, 31 days playing TF2. you are the winner :) | 20:24 |
| mlankhorst | haha | 20:24 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: and that's only after it started recording.. | 20:24 |
| mlankhorst | but I have a live now, I think | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | pfft, 31 days is nothing | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Azelphur/ | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | holy crap :) | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | xD | 20:26 |
| mlankhorst | it's not world of warcraft o.O | 20:27 |
| Azelphur | I been there and done that with WoW too :D | 20:27 |
| Azelphur | but nah, most of my TF2 time is idling, since you can get free stuff just by going afk haha | 20:27 |
| mlankhorst | nothing to be proud of, more ashamed of | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | haha | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | obviously havn't played TF2 for 6000+ hours, xD | 20:28 |
| mlankhorst | you do realize you only get a fixed amount of items per week right? | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | you do now, you didn't originally | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | which is where I built up about 4500 of those 6000 hours xD | 20:31 |
| mlankhorst | oh right, bet you don't have cheater's lament, then | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | amusingly, I do | 20:31 |
| mlankhorst | aw | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | and I cheated | 20:31 |
| mlankhorst | I hate you | 20:31 |
| Azelphur | haha | 20:32 |
| Azelphur | mlankhorst: if your into items, check out page 6 http://tf2items.com/id/azelphur | 20:33 |
| mlankhorst | I don't care about that :p | 20:34 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 20:34 |
| Azelphur | I do it all under wine too, btw \o/ | 20:35 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, the ppa packages are identical to the debdiffs, other than the version number (and precise-proposed)? | 20:43 |
| bryceh | yep looks like | 20:46 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, upload sponsored | 20:47 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: yep sure are, thank you for that! I didn't want to harass you guys so just subscribed sponsors | 20:50 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, no prob, was in the mood to upload something ;-) | 20:54 |
| bryceh | well, actually, I'm thrilled to see our graph going down at this stage in the release (this hasn't happened before afaik!) http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/ubuntu-x-swat/Reports/totals-quantal-workqueue.svg | 20:55 |
| mlankhorst | nouveau's likely going to stay open though | 20:56 |
| mlankhorst | :( | 20:56 |
| mlankhorst | but yeah I tried valgrinding some, it really does help finding some bugs proactively | 20:56 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, to get them off this graph it's sufficient to simply get them forwarded upstream | 20:58 |
| mlankhorst | ah | 20:58 |
| bryceh | bugs that have open upstream bug tasks are excluded from the count | 20:58 |
| bryceh | (the graph is trying to only count "bugs we can actually do some action on") | 20:58 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: I mean more in finding bugs early also means there's not going to be bug reports about them | 20:59 |
| mlankhorst | having valgrind and all the -dbg symbols for easy local backtracing does help a lot | 20:59 |
| Sarvatt | wow, and i haven't even been looking at many public bugs this cycle because we're swimming in so many private ones | 20:59 |
| bryceh | also, if bug reports don't make sense, setting them to incomplete with a question to the reporter also excludes them from the list | 20:59 |
| mlankhorst | ah k | 20:59 |
| mlankhorst | but for nouveau, what's the point of doing bug reports if upstream won't look at it :-( | 21:00 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, Sarvatt yeah there's been a lot less bug filing this cycle, which is either great news, or means all our users are sticking to 12.04 ;-) | 21:01 |
| mlankhorst | HEY! I'm on 12.04!! | 21:01 |
| Sarvatt | hell I stuck to 12.04 until 2-3 weeks ago :) | 21:01 |
| bryceh | that's two data points to proving the latter! | 21:02 |
| bryceh | actually three, I'm on 12.04 too (since the valve stuff targets 12.04) | 21:02 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: but in my case it's since I need to keep testing the X stack, and I'm actually on quantal for stuff that matters.. | 21:02 |
| tjaalton | i have only my main desktop still on 12.04, and probably will update to the backport stack at some point | 21:03 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, yup. it's awesome how much more serious attention we're all putting on 12.04. I thought 10.04 got a lot of post-release attention but it was nothing like we're doing with 12.04 | 21:03 |
| mlankhorst | well I want things to just work, I did actually hit that synaptics suspend bug on my laptop at one point | 21:04 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, if -nouveau is complete fubar, what's going to happen when that gets backported to 12.04 via your lts stack? | 21:07 |
| bryceh | some of those nouveau bugs may be dupes, like all the screen corruption issues | 21:09 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: well people don't HAVE to use the new stuff, so if they don't things stay the same | 21:10 |
| Sarvatt | ugh libxcb-util soname bump, thats going to need a lot of rebuilds next cycle | 21:13 |
| jcristau | again? | 21:14 |
| Sarvatt | back in may | 21:15 |
| jcristau | ah | 21:15 |
| jcristau | meh, it has like 3 rdeps | 21:15 |
| Sarvatt | oh thought it was more for some reason, intel driver at least | 21:15 |
| jcristau | or am i thinking of something else | 21:15 |
| jcristau | hmm | 21:15 |
| jcristau | yeah i think i'm just confused | 21:16 |
| Sarvatt | util-wm had a bunch of obscure window managers i had to rebuild in edgers last time, that got a bump too | 21:17 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: yeah probably although it depends if their cards are simialr enough or not :-) | 21:18 |
| mlankhorst | closed one more bug, muaha | 21:19 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, tomorrow would you mind browsing through them and duping whichever ones do look similar? | 21:19 |
| mlankhorst | sure | 21:19 |
| bryceh | awesome, thanks | 21:20 |
| jcristau | Sarvatt: ah right xcb-util was deferred in june because of the upcoming wheezy freeze back then | 21:22 |
| jcristau | hrm | 21:23 |
| jcristau | looks like the soname bump was avoidable... | 21:23 |
| mlankhorst | omap one closed too, seemed to have been invalid :p | 21:24 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: are you not tracking geode or is there no bug for it? | 21:26 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, hmm, thought we were tracking that, no reason not to. lemme check | 21:29 |
| tjaalton | no bugs on quantal | 21:29 |
| tjaalton | for geode | 21:30 |
| mlankhorst | I'm fairly sure the fix I did just leaves it working on a compile level only, so it's probably more evidence nobody is using it | 21:30 |
| mlankhorst | either that or the fix did work | 21:30 |
| bryceh | yes we are tracking it, just no quantal bugs like tjaalton says | 21:30 |
| tjaalton | the maintainer was pinging me some time ago, wanted to sync some cleanup version so I guess it works as is | 21:31 |
| bryceh | the type of user for geode is unlikely to care about non-lts releases. And actually might be they all just stick with 10.04 or something home built. It's rather appliance-ish | 21:31 |
| tjaalton | oh we could sync 2.11.13-6 | 21:32 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: ah :-) | 21:32 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, wasn't there an exa update or something for it? | 21:33 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: not sure | 21:33 |
| tjaalton | and actually, our version is newer than on debian, so can't sync it | 21:33 |
| tjaalton | remember telling him that.. | 21:33 |
| Sarvatt | err, noone can even use geode on 12.10 can they since its PAE only? | 21:33 |
| mlankhorst | quite possibly | 21:34 |
| tjaalton | you can't install it | 21:34 |
| tjaalton | :) | 21:34 |
| * Sarvatt looks it up | 21:34 | |
| tjaalton | he keeps syncing from git but doesn't touch the upstream version, so meh | 21:34 |
| Sarvatt | not seeing any geodes that support PAE and 12.04 was the last release with a non PAE kernel so.. yeah | 21:36 |
| mlankhorst | can we drop it from main then? | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | and -video-all | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | same thing | 21:38 |
| mlankhorst | yeah :p | 21:38 |
| * mlankhorst prepares salutory parting shot | 21:39 | |
| mlankhorst | cirrus too? should be using modesetting driver by now | 21:40 |
| tjaalton | is it? | 21:40 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: they just disabled the cirrus drm driver | 21:40 |
| bryceh | I think I have one of the geodes in some drawer somewhere, if anyone wants it. has to be booted via PXE | 21:40 |
| stgraber | hmm, most geodes won't boot anyway | 21:41 |
| Sarvatt | -modesetting wasn't working as good as -cirrus or something | 21:41 |
| stgraber | they died when we started being pure i686 | 21:42 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: sigh, ok | 21:42 |
| stgraber | except for some Geode LX that are i686 and may still boot | 21:42 |
| mlankhorst | geode lx should work, using shadowfb | 21:43 |
| mlankhorst | earlier actually had hardware acceleration and won't work for sure | 21:43 |
| mlankhorst | ok pushed the commit for xorg to kill off geode, can anyone upload it? | 21:45 |
| mlankhorst | and bed | 21:46 |
| mlankhorst | night all :-) | 21:46 |
| tjaalton | same | 21:48 |
| * mlankhorst steals bryceh's steam key | 22:27 | |
| bryceh | heh | 22:30 |
| Prf_Jakob | So who do I need to buy a beer/whiskey to get into the Steam beta? :-) | 22:58 |
| mlankhorst | well make hellstrom come to uds :p | 23:00 |
| Prf_Jakob | 3 kids of which two are ~1 year old twins makes that unlikely :-/ | 23:01 |
| Prf_Jakob | Where is it btw? | 23:01 |
| mlankhorst | copenhagen | 23:02 |
| Prf_Jakob | Oh thats actually close. | 23:02 |
| Prf_Jakob | Send him a email | 23:02 |
| Prf_Jakob | ~4h car ride | 23:03 |
| mlankhorst | i will | 23:04 |
| Prf_Jakob | I will try and make it as well | 23:05 |
| Prf_Jakob | Even tho I'm on leave from VMware right now. | 23:05 |
| Sarvatt | worst part about not going to UDS in copenhagen - finding out valve will be there the week after you realize you can't go :( | 23:05 |
| mlankhorst | cant you pay extra to get passport done sooner? :p | 23:06 |
| mlankhorst | here you can get it in the next day instead of next week if you pay some extra | 23:06 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: i already mailed mine off, i coulda got it done the same day for money if i realized it would take 1.5 months through the mail :( | 23:06 |
| Sarvatt | yeah i live right outside of dc where the passports are made, i got my last one 10 years ago done the same day, tried to save $100 this time, big mistake | 23:08 |
| Prf_Jakob | Is UDS invite only btw? | 23:09 |
| Sarvatt | nope | 23:09 |
| Sarvatt | invite only if you are expecting it to be sponsored and paid for by canonical | 23:09 |
| Prf_Jakob | Ah ok | 23:10 |
| RAOF | Everyone else is welcome to rock up! | 23:10 |
| Prf_Jakob | 3:46h train ride for $50 (one way). | 23:11 |
| RAOF | Damn Europeans and their awesome transit systems. | 23:11 |
| Sarvatt | I know right.. | 23:12 |
| Prf_Jakob | Also not that far away... | 23:12 |
| Sarvatt | hotel will probably be nuts though | 23:12 |
| mlankhorst | pssh sleep on t he conference floor or party all night with caffein :p | 23:12 |
| Prf_Jakob | $957 for the whole thing. | 23:16 |
| mlankhorst | so you don't need any food? >:-) | 23:19 |
| Sarvatt | Prf_Jakob: UDS discount rates? | 23:19 |
| Sarvatt | UDS includes breakfast and dinner | 23:19 |
| Prf_Jakob | Sarvatt: yes | 23:19 |
| Sarvatt | err lunch | 23:19 |
| Sarvatt | just not dinner | 23:19 |
| Prf_Jakob | $957 for the hotel. | 23:19 |
| Prf_Jakob | According to XE.com | 23:20 |
| Sarvatt | oh was hoping you could save more by using the discount rate, they almost always have one | 23:20 |
| Prf_Jakob | Well thats for what 5nights. | 23:20 |
| RAOF | So you can visit Legoland! | 23:22 |
| Prf_Jakob | Haha | 23:23 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: do you have a roomie yet? | 23:23 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: I don't think so, no. | 23:23 |
| mlankhorst | want one? | 23:25 |
| * RAOF is just trying to find the wiki page to see if he has one already :) | 23:25 | |
| Prf_Jakob | mlankhorst: You might need start working on sponsering Thomas btw, I'm not sure we have started a new budget quarter yet. | 23:25 |
| mlankhorst | https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuEngineering/UDS/R/PeopleName | 23:25 |
| Sarvatt | Prf_Jakob: its too late afaik :( | 23:26 |
| Prf_Jakob | Sarvatt: oh okay :-/ | 23:26 |
| RAOF | Currently getting the lucky dip roomie! | 23:28 |
| Sarvatt | dip roomie? | 23:28 |
| mlankhorst | panda died on me! argh | 23:28 |
| mlankhorst | back | 23:28 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: get a laptop for use in your bed, argh :) | 23:29 |
| mlankhorst | haha | 23:29 |
| mlankhorst | i'll take the eee one again | 23:29 |
| mlankhorst | but leave it in my room :P | 23:29 |
| bryceh | wb RAOF | 23:34 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: why are you up at 1:34? :P | 23:34 |
| RAOF | Three day weekends are pretty good :) | 23:34 |
| RAOF | Pity I don't have enough leave to make every weekend a 3-day weekend :) | 23:35 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: .au holiday? | 23:35 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Using up my leave. | 23:35 |
| Sarvatt | oh gotcha :) | 23:35 |
| bryceh | RAOF, btw you may want to read the TB irc log from today; I got some clarifications on what you can do vis a vis all the nvidia experimental stuff. tl;dr TB considers you empowered to handle all the approvals for getting into -precise | 23:39 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Excellent. Will look into them. | 23:39 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF grew superpowers while on vacation :) | 23:39 |
| RAOF | Maybe next Monday I'll grow more! | 23:40 |
| * RAOF has taken Mondays off for pretty much the rest of the year. | 23:40 | |
| bryceh | RAOF, also I jotted down my understanding of all the process steps for this at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/DriverUpdates with links to the TB discussions. | 23:40 |
| mlankhorst | oh speaking of which we need to sru llvm-3.1 to precise too :p | 23:40 |
| bryceh | actually they decided no new powers, just implied powers gained from the previous TB :-) | 23:40 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: thats US sundays so noone in the US will notice :) | 23:40 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: For the purposes of backportage? | 23:41 |
| mlankhorst | yeah and new wayland | 23:41 |
| RAOF | That's going to start getting nasty. | 23:41 |
| mlankhorst | it's actually a clean standalone package so not that hard | 23:42 |
| mlankhorst | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport/+packages is cleaned up mostly | 23:45 |
| RAOF | Wayland could get nasty should something actually start using it :) | 23:49 |
| bryceh | quite | 23:50 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: at that point the api is presumably stable enough to build mesa with | 23:51 |
| RAOF | That would indeed be the hope, yes. | 23:51 |
| mlankhorst | worst case we rename it but things can only improve by putting in a new wayland | 23:59 |
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