[06:32] <Squirm> morning
[06:33] <superfly> morning Squirm
[06:49] <Squirm> hey there superfly 
[06:50] <magespawn> good day Squirm, superfly 
[08:01] <kilos> hi superfly and others
[08:01] <superfly> hi kilos
[08:02] <kilos> i got kubuntu and made a usb startup disk and booted from it. but oh so slow
[08:04] <kilos> installing from cd is much faster methinks but havent got a cd that can take 703m
[08:04] <kilos> grrr
[08:05] <Squirm> usb should be faster
[08:05] <Squirm> thus where SSD's came in
[08:07] <kilos> i dunno , even tried it in another port
[08:07] <kilos> but it is installing slowly anyway
[08:08] <superfly> kilos: installs are always slow
[08:08] <superfly> even Ubuntu
[08:09] <kilos> from cd it goes through the motions here much faster. can install ubuntu in 25 mins
[08:11] <Squirm> USB2 high-speed (480 Mbit/s)
[08:11] <Squirm> a 24x DVD drive is
[08:11] <Squirm> 265.92 Mbit/s
[08:12] <kilos> maybe i aint got high speed ports
[08:12] <kilos> but looks like its doing good
[08:12] <Squirm> my pc is 6 years old and I'd think it'd be high speed 
[08:13] <Squirm> copies 150Mb is about 10s
[08:13] <kilos> im not sure of age on this one. its p4 but only ddr ram not ddr2
[08:13] <kilos> and one gig ram here
[08:14] <kilos> dunno if they make ddr in 1g cards
[08:14] <kilos> only 2 slots
[08:15] <Squirm> that should be fine
[08:16] <kilos> well unity worked on it
[08:16] <Squirm> were just comparing cdrom vs usb speeds
[08:16] <kilos> it seems to be doing ok
[08:16] <kilos> 89%
[08:16] <kilos> its in
[08:16] <kilos> tween 20 and 25 mins i think it was
[08:17] <kilos> so must been cheating in the background
[08:17] <kilos> hehe
[08:18] <kilos> first usb install 
[08:19] <kilos> yay music
[08:19] <kilos> sound works
[08:20] <kilos> black screen?
[08:22] <kilos> can ctrl+alt+f2 but got no gui
[08:24] <kilos> the goose will be happy im trying kde
[08:26] <kilos> superfly, cant kubuntu afford a gui
[08:27] <kilos> hehe
[08:30] <superfly> kilos: try pressing alt+shift+f12
[08:32] <kilos> no change superfly 
[08:32] <superfly> kilos: did you log in yet?
[08:33] <kilos> yes that went fine
[08:33] <superfly> so you logged in, then what?
[08:33] <kilos> after password it went black
[08:33] <kilos> tried again, same thing
[08:34] <superfly> black... hrm
[08:34] <superfly> and then you pressed alt+shift+f12 ?
[08:35] <kilos> first time yes the logged in that way and type sudo kdm start
[08:35] <kilos> back to prompt
[08:35] <kilos> f2 not f12
[08:35] <superfly> kilos: OK, hold on. Do you get a GUI login prompt, or a CLI prompt?
[08:35] <kilos> sorry i misread that
[08:35] <kilos> gui
[08:35] <superfly> then you logged in using the GUI, and got a black screen?
[08:36] <kilos> yessir
[08:36] <superfly> alright, when you get to the black screen, type alt+shift+f12 (yes, not F2, F12)
[08:37] <kilos> ya
[08:37] <kilos> it came
[08:37] <superfly> "it came"?
[08:38] <kilos> gui arrived now i can start looking for things
[08:38] <kilos> hehe
[08:38] <kilos> is it gonna need the f12 every time
[08:38] <superfly> ya, I thought so... your graphics card can't handle KDE's desktop effects
[08:38] <superfly> no, you can turn them off
[08:39] <superfly> kilos: what graphics card do you have?
[08:39] <kilos> nvidia
[08:39] <kilos> fx something
[08:39] <superfly> ah, and you don't have the proprietary drivers installed
[08:39] <kilos> havent nothing yet
[08:40] <kilos> i will do nvidi-current as soon as i got rsync of archives and update upgrade done
[08:40] <kilos> lucky i got 2 pcs
[08:41] <superfly> kilos: OK, for the moment we can turn them off. In your menu, go to the Applications tab, then click on Settings, and then click on System Settings
[08:43] <kilos> im there
[08:45] <superfly> right, click on "Desktop Effects"
[08:45] <superfly> Then, there's a check box on the first page you see that says, "Enable desktop effects at startup" - untick it.
[08:45] <kilos> im there
[08:46] <kilos> ah ty superfly 
[08:47] <superfly> kilos: one other thing you can do - by default KDE likes you to click once to do things, and most folks are used to double-clicking, so we can switch it to double-click if you'd like
[08:48] <kilos> ok where superfly ?
[08:48] <kilos> back to them settings?
[08:49] <superfly> yes
[08:49] <kilos> trying to find terminal
[08:49] <superfly> then look for "Input Devices"
[08:49] <kilos> got it
[08:50] <superfly> then under the Mouse section, there's a section that talks about either single-click or double-click
[08:50] <superfly> kilos: the terminal is called Konsole
[08:50] <kilos> ah what makes for the one click?
[08:51] <kilos> got it ty
[08:56] <kilos> i spose if i can survive unity i can survive kde
[08:58] <kilos> maybe feed family eggs tonight. no time to make a meal
[08:59] <kilos> ok guys i steal modem here. see you from kde after updates
[08:59] <kilos> be good
[09:07] <kilos> aw superfly mobile broadband button grayed out
[09:08] <kilos> i go try see if it sees fone as modem
[09:12] <superfly> kilos: do you have KPPP installed?
[09:13] <superfly> Menu -> Applications -> Internet
[11:05] <Kilos> oh well, we be kdefied now
[11:06] <Kilos> toods chanserv
[11:12] <inetpro> ehlo Kilos, and all others
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[11:13]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[11:13] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[11:13] <Kilos> mm no sound here
[11:13] <Kilos> yet!!
[11:14] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[11:14] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[11:14] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[11:14] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[11:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[11:15] <Kilos> me quassel fied in kde
[11:15]  * inetpro wbb
[11:17] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[11:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[11:17] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[11:17] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:17] <Trixar_za> Hi Kilos
[11:18] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[11:24] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[14:22] <Kilos> hmm
[14:27] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos 
[14:27] <Kilos> alo not_found hows you
[14:27] <Kilos> i be on kubuntu now
[14:28] <not_found> cool... Kubuntu 12.04|
[14:28] <not_found> ?
[14:28] <Kilos> yip
[14:28] <not_found> I be fine thanks
[14:28] <not_found> cool, KDE 4.8 is very cool
[14:28] <Kilos> installed twice. first time it didnt see the modem
[14:29] <Kilos> so did all updates upgrades via cell. so slow at 4kB/s
[14:30] <Kilos> this time it sees modem and goiung lekker
[14:30] <Kilos> going as well
[14:32] <not_found> http://youtu.be/8gFmFmgKvRM
[14:32] <Kilos> whats that not_found ?
[14:33] <not_found> some random SA music on youtube
[14:33] <Kilos> oh lol
[14:33] <Kilos> i dont do music online. data hog
[14:36] <Kilos> but no sound here on xchat yet or quassel
[14:36] <Kilos> grr
[14:36] <not_found> oh well
[14:36] <Kilos> hehe
[14:37] <Kilos> was hoping to be like the fly and say i dont have probs i use kubuntu
[14:43] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[14:43] <Kilos> not_found, is gdebi a gnome tool? whats the kde one?
[14:45] <not_found> Kilos, I see there is gdebi-kde
[14:46] <not_found> I haven't tried it but seems to be gdebi for KDE
[14:47] <Kilos> some package tool took over after i double clicked on ibid daily package
[14:48] <Kilos> dolphin is nice
[14:48] <Kilos> shows packages well
[16:04] <Kilos> aw missed him
[16:05] <Kilos> not very patient was he
[16:05] <Kilos> hyper active dude
[16:18] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:18] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:19] <Cantide> how is Kilos ?
[16:19] <Kilos> good ty and you Cantide ?
[16:19] <Kilos> trying to find sound for my xchat
[16:20] <Kilos> and/or quassel
[16:20] <Cantide> i'm okay '-' eating dinner :)
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <nuvolari> .
[16:37] <nuvolari> :D
[16:37] <nuvolari> I'm alive!
[16:37] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[16:37] <Kilos> wow nuvolari wb
[16:37] <nuvolari> howdy Cantide,
[16:37] <nuvolari> Ludo: 
[16:38] <nuvolari> dankie oom :)
[16:38] <Kilos> sjoe jy was lank weg ne
[16:38] <Kilos> als goed daar?
[16:38] <nuvolari> ja oom, moet maar soveel tyd soos ek kan saam my ouers spandeer
[16:38] <nuvolari> voor dit eendag te laat is
[16:38] <nuvolari> dit gaan voor die wind dankie oom
[16:38] <Kilos> o ja ekt vergeet
[16:40] <nuvolari> hulle's darm veilig by die huis
[16:40] <nuvolari> soe, is vanoggend vroeg hier weg
[16:41] <Kilos> mooi
[16:42] <Cantide> hey nuvolari :)
[16:56] <Kilos> inetpro, you home yet
[16:56] <Kilos> ?
[16:58] <superfly> wow nuvolari
[16:59] <superfly> Kilos: do you want it to bloep for each and every message?
[16:59] <magespawn> good evening nuvolari, Kilos, superfly, Cantide 
[17:00] <superfly> yo magespawn
[17:00] <Cantide> haha
[17:00] <Cantide> hello magespawn :p
[17:00] <superfly> so much for my 10Mbps, I'm getting 2 this evening
[17:00] <Kilos> nope superfly only when nick mentioned
[17:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:00] <nuvolari> hi superfly, magespawn 
[17:00] <Kilos> 2m/s whew i dream of that
[17:01] <superfly> Kilos: in Quassel, Settings > Configure > Interface > Notifications
[17:01] <Kilos> updated kubuntu at 4kB/s on fone
[17:02] <Kilos> ok i open quassel first and try set it up ty superfly did another clean install with /home deleted
[17:05] <kilos_> hmm
[17:05] <superfly> hi kilos_
[17:05] <kilos_> hi superfly
[17:09] <magespawn> Kilos i am willing to be you could do install with your eyes closed by now
[17:09] <kilos_> rofl
[17:10] <kilos_> first time from a stick
[17:10] <kilos_> and second
[17:10] <kilos_> hehe
[17:10] <kilos_> if modem isnt plugged in it doesnt see it after reboot
[17:10]  * nuvolari wil send his lappy via mail to oom kilos_ when a new install is required
[17:11] <kilos_> lol yw
[17:11] <kilos_> now ive found a use for 8ta night surfer
[17:27] <Kilos> wow auto restart for some reason
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:35]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[17:37] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> hehe hi superfly still no sound
[17:38] <superfly> Kilos: go to Settings -> Notifications
[17:38] <Kilos> must i untick the play a sound block?
[17:38] <superfly> make sure you select "highlight"
[17:38] <superfly> and then make sure the sound block is ticked, and there is a sound file in the edit box
[17:40] <Kilos> KDE-Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg
[17:40] <Kilos> its all there but no sound
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:41] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[17:41] <Kilos> sigh
[17:42] <Kilos> xchat also no sound but pidgin is fine
[17:44] <superfly> Kilos: select "Highlight when focused" and make sure it has the same settings
[17:47] <Kilos> in the notifications window it pongs with top 2 and plings with bottom 2
[17:47] <Kilos> hehe
[17:47] <superfly> Kilos: so are you getting noises now?
[17:48] <Kilos> nope
[17:48] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:48] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[17:48] <Kilos> weird
[17:48] <Kilos> must i restart quassel maybe?
[17:50] <Kilos> lol thats why the goose is hiding
[17:51] <Kilos> too much brain strain with me going kde
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos: it works for me
[17:52] <Kilos> yay it worked
[17:53] <Kilos> maybe had to scratch around for the sound file first
[17:53] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:53] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[17:53] <Kilos> not from him
[17:53] <Kilos> maybe something else made the sound
[17:54] <superfly> Kilos: 
[17:54] <superfly> Kilos: 
[17:54] <Kilos> maybe a gstreamer file missing
[17:54] <Kilos> nothing
[17:55] <Kilos> i tried googling too and all i find for xchat is tips and tricks
[17:55] <Kilos> no sound info
[17:56] <superfly> Kilos: please say my nick, I'm not only hanging in here
[17:57] <Kilos> superfly: 
[17:57] <Kilos> superfly: 
[17:57] <superfly> there works for me
[17:57] <Kilos> aw
[17:57] <Kilos> its something else missing here
[17:58] <Kilos> quassel and xchat got no sound
[17:58] <Kilos> bindings or hooks or whatever you call them
[17:58] <Kilos> both settings in quassel and xchat show sound should work
[17:59] <Kilos> its kmail making sounds because it cant get to gmail with pop
[18:00] <Kilos> superfly: lemme try do sound from mb
[18:00] <Kilos> maybe its because sound card hasnt got drivers
[18:00] <Kilos> gotta go enable ac97 in bios first
[18:09] <Kilos> aw not that either
[18:13] <superfly> Kilos: minimize quassel
[18:14] <superfly> Kilos: if another app has focus, quassel will generally highlight
[18:14] <Kilos> done but cant see you if it stays minimised
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:15] <Kilos> nothing else is open
[18:23] <Kilos> i nearly thought nuvolari had found something else to do like drubin
[18:24] <Kilos> and corrie206
[18:30] <smile> bye :)
[18:33] <Kilos> inetpro: jy kannie hele tyd ander goed doen nie
[18:33] <Kilos> kom drink saam koffie
[18:33] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[18:33]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:37] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[18:37] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:38] <Kilos> if im on another workspace then i hear messages to me
[18:38] <Kilos> but not when here
[18:38]  * Kilos scratches head
[18:44] <nuvolari> nah oom Kilos 
[18:44] <nuvolari> I won't leave you all high and dry here
[18:44] <Kilos> ty very much
[18:45] <nuvolari> oom Kilos that's how notifications work in general
[18:45] <nuvolari> like when it's minimized or you don't have focus on that window, it will bloep you
[18:45] <nuvolari> otherwise it will just light up
[18:45] <Kilos> ya but why no sound in quassel and xchat?
[18:46] <Kilos> a plugin missing maybe
[18:46] <nuvolari> oh? like totally?
[18:47] <nuvolari> eek, I have to go kiep
[18:47] <nuvolari> night oom kilos, and everyone else
[18:47] <nuvolari> sleep toit
[18:47] <Kilos> sleep tight nuvolari
[18:48] <nuvolari> dankie oom :) oom ook!
[18:48] <Kilos> dankie seun
[19:24] <Kilos> superfly: is there a way to tell quassel to use alsa not whatever it is using?
[19:24] <Kilos> just an idea
[19:25] <Kilos> maybe pulse conflick or something
[19:25] <Kilos> conflict
[19:25] <superfly> Kilos: Quassel uses KDE's audio system
[19:27]  * superfly puts the heavy metal on at his son's request
[19:28] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[19:28] <Kilos> he should be in bed
[19:28] <Kilos> is that his lullabyes
[19:30] <superfly> Kilos: he doesn't go to bed before 10:00
[19:30] <Kilos> wow
[19:33] <magespawn> superfly: why so late?
[19:38] <superfly> magespawn: because that's the way he's wired
[19:38] <superfly> magespawn: what time do the fish get up?
[19:39] <superfly> (in the morning)
[19:39] <superfly> magespawn: cause eldest here only gets up at like 9am
[19:48] <Kilos> hehe night guys sleep tight
[19:52] <superfly> http://ifixit.org/3001/how-one-teacher-built-a-computer-lab-for-free/
[19:55] <magespawn> fish one is late 6 -7 fish two is early 5-6
[19:56] <magespawn> but theybare both in bed by 20:00 in school time
[20:03] <magespawn> i presume the eldest is not going to school yet superfly
[20:04] <superfly> magespawn: the eldest is 3
[20:06] <magespawn> good time for two or three times a week nursery/play school
[20:08] <superfly> magespawn: if you have the money
[20:08] <magespawn> ahh yes that is always the thing
[20:28] <magespawn> good night all, superfly
[20:29] <superfly> night
[21:05] <zeref> Symmetria: