[00:00] <Guest56408> Benn: Yes, I know then after that process Wine didn'e load the game I had download
[00:00] <zykotick9> forgotmynick: do you want your /home to have NO gnu/linux/posix permission?  if you don't care, use ntfs/fat/etc.  but that's a terrible idea.
[00:01] <forgotmynick> zykotick9, so it's just less secure?
[00:01] <dev___> Alright im back i restarted action
[00:04] <dev___> hello
[00:04] <woot-0854> Slightly OT but dont use Hackers keyboard.  Itz a keylogger :)  it got into 2 desktops via ssh.
[00:04] <dev___> whats hackers keyboard?
[00:04] <recursive_> is that really true?
[00:04] <recursive_> shame... I need a tab key
[00:05] <woot-0854> Droid app for shell interface
[00:05] <drkokandy> really woot-0854?
[00:05] <jrib> !ot | dev___
[00:05] <dev___> !guidelines
[00:05] <woot-0854> Yep got into ubuntu and fedora after I had logged in
[00:06] <MatProvQc> tried to install Wine via the Software Center... Installation stuck at the middle and says that I need to repair it.. any help, plz
[00:06] <azrad> hi, noob here; ubuntu 12.04 32bit; just installed and updated; having a mouse issue where it works for about 30 seconds, then I seem to lose the ability to click on GUI elements (i can still move the cursor with the mouse, just can't accomplish anything), unplugging the mouse (USB) and replugging it seems to fix issue (for about 30 seconds)
[00:06] <Hatori> forgotmynick, thats very bad thing
[00:07] <forgotmynick> Hatori but in which scenario?
[00:07] <forgotmynick> it doesn't help with you being vague :(
[00:07] <woot-0854> How can I fix the:rm .xauthority to mock host authentication?
[00:07] <Hatori> Forgotmynick,use ntfs for your windows natively
[00:08] <MatProvQc> anyone got the driver for Nvidia 4200go on Ubuntu 12.04 (there are multiple artifacts..)
[00:08] <woot-0854> My xauthority is getting wiped when the sudo'ers break in. How can I protect that file?
[00:09] <jrib> woot-0854: what do you mean by "when the sudo'ers break in"?
[00:09] <Hatori> forgotmyninick, linux provides ntfs driver to support accessing some windows ntfs partitions :d ...
[00:09] <dev___> Yea what do you mean when the sudo'ers break in
[00:10] <monkeyjuice> have no sound fresh install kubuntu 12.04 ,intel card any ideas?
[00:10] <Hatori> forgotmynick, thats ntfs-3g play a role
[00:10] <woot-0854> Keep gettin ssh connections from china.  They get in I traceroute and port scan and they disconnect.
[00:11] <woot-0854> Mostly Bejing
[00:11] <dev___> hackers?
[00:11] <MatProvQc> get under VPN
[00:11] <jrib> woot-0854: umm... they get access to your computer?
[00:11] <maysara> hi, I installed vmware player 5.0.0 but it does not open. how can I open it?
[00:11] <MatProvQc> renew ip
[00:12] <woot-0854> Jrib.  Ya I found out droid was leaking keys
[00:12] <MatProvQc> check if you can update the files on your computer (maysara)
[00:12] <dev___> anyone kow if it is possible to see the terminal when you start up ubuntu? I believe it did that in older versions
[00:12] <dev___> anyway to bring that back instead of seeing this purple with logo
[00:12] <gogeta> woot-0854: so reset all yor ssh keys
[00:12] <OerHeks> monkeyjuice, , good start is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[00:12] <actionParsnip> dev___: do you mean load on at login?
[00:13] <dev___> yea
[00:13] <jrib> woot-0854: you should probably reinstall and restore from safe backups of your data
[00:13] <monkeyjuice> thanks OerHeks
[00:13] <dev___> i just remember seeing a terminal when i shutdown and on startup
[00:13] <forgotmynick> Ok then thanks. Last question please, I have 4GB of ram and may need to use hibernation. What's the exact size I should use for swap? 4096? 4000? 4100?
[00:13] <dev___> now i just see the purple with logo
[00:13] <MatProvQc> monitor driver incompatibility... anyone got the same problem - with Nvidia's ones
[00:13] <actionParsnip> dev___: i recommend you install guake and have that load at startup, its a great terminal whic shows and hides on shortcut key (Default is F12)
[00:13] <Hatori> dev__ hit ctrl alt f1 or f2
[00:14] <woot-0854> Jrib, its more annoying than anything everthing is copied
[00:14] <dev___> alright i will try that
[00:14] <Hatori> forgotmynick, commonly was recommended for double size of your ram
[00:14] <gogeta> woot-0854: time to format that box
[00:14] <woot-0854> :P
[00:15] <gogeta> woot-0854: and turn ssh off
[00:15] <woot-0854> Ur right
[00:15] <OerHeks> i think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems is a better start
[00:15] <harushimo> i'm trying to upgrade ruby on ubuntu
[00:15] <Hatori> forgotmynick, but it was relative to your need, you can make it bigger or smaller
[00:15] <harushimo> I need a ruby 1.9.2
[00:15] <gogeta> woot-0854: at least letting it wok outside the local network'
[00:15] <harushimo> how would I get that
[00:15] <maysara> It's the latest version
[00:15] <woot-0854> No!  I need to get better at rsa.  Ya remote is dangerious
[00:16] <DarkStar1> what switch allows me to remove a link without the file? -f or -h
[00:16] <harushimo> I can't install a software for my class
[00:16] <jrib> DarkStar1: rm removes links
[00:16] <Hatori> !apt | harushimo
[00:18] <DarkStar1> jrib: thx
[00:18] <Guest79238> ciao
[00:18] <Guest79238> !list
[00:19] <harushimo> I did with apt-get. I know ruby has a version program which automatically installed threw rvm
[00:19] <uy> !Xilinx
[00:19] <uy> any one know what is Xilinx
[00:20] <recursive_> xilinx is an FPGA manufacturor
[00:20] <recursive_> much like altera and lattice
[00:20] <harushimo> I figured it out
[00:20] <harushimo> thank you
[00:21] <uy> ^^
[00:21] <recursive_> After some panic set it, I checked hacker keyboard's permissions in android.  not foolproof, but at least it doesn't have internet access.
[00:21] <recursive_> *set in
[00:22] <dandaman> hey all, im running a smb share from my ubuntu machine. I mostly share movies and watch them in my living room off my laptop hooked up to my tv. Problem is 720p quality movies "buffer" or "pause" a lot. I'm guessing this is because the wifi signal isn't very strong. I was wondering if there was a way to combat this issue. maybe set up a way to stream a compressed version or something and uncompress it on the tv?
[00:23] <recursive_> frankly I'd shoot for a more stable network connection if possible
[00:23] <gogeta> dandaman: movis are compressed lol
[00:23] <dandaman> gogeta: yeah you're right :(
[00:23] <dandaman> recursive_: i dont know how that's possible, i have a pretty strong router
[00:23] <recursive_> I've had good success over short distances with ethernet over powerline adapters in cases where I can't string network cables
[00:24] <dandaman> powerline adapter?
[00:24] <azrad> fdfs
[00:24] <DarkStar1> is there a difference between these 2 commands: apachectl graceful  <==> service apache2 restart? I ask because the latter gives me an error and the former doesn't
[00:24] <recursive_> yeah.  it looks like a big powerbrick / AC adapter, but its got an ethernet port in it
[00:24] <gogeta> dandaman: yea i have seen those before but your house wiring shape is a big factor
[00:24] <azrad> dsfsdfwerkljsdfkl
[00:24] <azrad> sorry
[00:24] <recursive_> you get a pair, and they effectively bridge the two ends like you'd run a cable through
[00:25] <dandaman> recursive_: holy shit, no way, that is amazing
[00:25] <azrad> ubuntu 12.04, having a mouse issue which seems to be described here (http://matt-linux-log.blogspot.com/2010/10/saitek-cyborg-rat-in-linux.html) but i'm having trouble implementing the fix listed
[00:25] <recursive_> I have a relatively old / electrically noisy house, but it does work for short distances.   not perfect, but better than wifi for short distances
[00:25] <dandaman> you can send packets...through your electrical outlets?
[00:25] <recursive_> yes
[00:25] <gogeta> dandaman: its not that great anything more then short distance interfearince starts to make it crap
[00:26] <recursive_> I run cable as far as I can go, then drop one of those near the obstruction (chimney in my house)
[00:26] <DarkStar1> Anyone?
[00:26] <dandaman> the distance is about 25-30 feet
[00:26] <recursive_> then place the second as close as I can, and then add more ethernet
[00:26] <dandaman> will it work for that distance?
[00:26] <gogeta> recursive_: naa i goot direncinal wifi system owns anything else
[00:26] <gogeta> good
[00:26] <recursive_> it should.  mine is about that.
[00:27] <recursive_> something to try, at least.
[00:27] <dandaman> recursive_: yeah, they're like 60 bucks
[00:27] <dandaman> so i'm a bit iffy
[00:28] <uy> recursive_:  Do you know some of the chip IS42S16400B and the diference with the TE28F320
[00:28] <gogeta> dandaman: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hawking-Hi-Gain-Wireless-G-USB-Dish-Adapter/12547905
[00:28] <gogeta> i use one of those
[00:29] <gogeta> dandaman: point at roughter better single
[00:29] <recursive_> uy: sorry I dont
[00:29] <dandaman> gogeta: wireless g?
[00:29] <dandaman> pretty weak eh?
[00:29] <gogeta> dandaman: they make a wireless n model to
[00:29] <dev___> anyone there
[00:29] <dev___> omg
[00:29] <dev___> it still im still having wifi problems
[00:29] <dev___> :((
[00:30] <FloodBot1> dev___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <recursive_> oh yeah the hawking antennas are decent.  that's the setup I had before I tried the powerline stuff
[00:30] <dandaman> yeah i have a hawking wireless adapter too, im letting my roommate borrow it
[00:30] <recursive_> the powerline setup works better for me, but probably because I'm stringing regular ethernet cable for 90% of the distance.
[00:30] <dandaman> might be better than the internal wifi the laptop has, im gonna give it a shot
[00:31] <dandaman> those powerline ethernet cords seem really nifty though
[00:31] <dandaman> what happens if you plug more than one into your circuitry?
[00:31] <cyrano_> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I would like to have a permanent entry put in to grub. As every time there is a kernel update it changes grub and removes my entry. This particular partition needs to have the entry made a certain way that ubuntu does not configure correctly this making this OS not boot after every kernel update. Any ideas?
[00:31] <gogeta> dandaman: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164030
[00:31] <dandaman> i wonder how the protocols handle that
[00:32] <recursive_> oh man gogeta, that is slick
[00:32] <recursive_> mine doesn't have the wifi card built into it
[00:32] <gogeta> dandaman: its not abought being more powerfull its abought sending the radio waves in one direction
[00:32] <gogeta> dandaman: more distance that way
[00:33] <recursive_> I know there's a ton of signal attenuation going on in the coax cable in mine
[00:33] <recursive_> that thing must have the receiver right under the dish.
[00:34] <dandaman> gogeta: wait, so does the powerline ethernet work through your electrical circuitry, or does it power the wireless signal like a repeater
[00:34] <recursive_> electrical circuitry
[00:34] <dandaman> kk
[00:35] <recursive_> not 100% sure about the security implications with shared walls in apartments and such...
[00:36] <dev___> not only is my computer having wifi problems but my router or modem is also lol. all my devices are having disconnects ever since i installed ubuntu
[00:36] <gogeta> cyrano_: d.40 is where you make perment changes
[00:36] <Tostada> Trying to install an Epson Workforce 323 all in one printer on 12.04.. Printer seems to work fine but the scanner doesn't.  Any suggestions/Advice ? Thank you.
[00:36] <dev___> how is that even possible
[00:36] <gogeta> cyrano_: in grub 2
[00:36] <cyrano_> gogeta thanks!
[00:37] <Benn> I have the crash report here, from when Muon crashes, immediately after opening: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12269116#post12269116
[00:37] <recursive_> dev__:  Are all devices losing internet access (but still retaining internal network access) or are all devices losing everything?
[00:37] <Benn> Can anyone give me some help understanding it?
[00:38] <gogeta> cyrano_: do a update-grub when you done and it will always be there
[00:38] <dev___> no recursive the first one you said
[00:39] <dev___> have any ideas why recursive?
[00:39] <recursive_> that's tougher... I've seen some cable modems do funky things when loaded heavily.  I had one that would reset every few minutes or so with roommates seeding torrents heavily.
[00:39] <Guest5876> h
[00:40] <gogeta> recursive_: i had one reset everytime the wind blew lol
[00:40] <gogeta> recursive_: litterly
[00:40] <Guest5876> i changed my gui to fluxboz a while ago. how do i change ot back to the default?
[00:41] <uy> I need 4 to bed
[00:41] <jrib> Guest5876: at the login screen you can select whatever session you want (click on the gear)
[00:41] <dev___> yea its weird
[00:42] <bullitt> jrib: i remember changing the settings in a text file.. i forget which one it was though
[00:42] <bullitt> jrib: this is guest
[00:42] <recursive_> it might be illuminating to poke around in your router settings for a while.  the cable modems I've owned also had config pages
[00:42] <recursive_> and often report signal strength, signal to noise ratios, etc
[00:43] <excervo> hello guys how to disable and enable networkmanager onterminal?
[00:44] <recursive_> sudo service network-manager stop (or start) (or restart)
[00:44] <Hatori> excervo, service network-manager stop/start
[00:44] <excervo> Hatori, thanks
[00:45] <Domincii> Excuse me folks, could someone tell me how to check my computer temperature please?
[00:45] <gogeta> Domincii: stick your hand inside
[00:46] <recursive_> I believe you may be interested in the package lm_sensors
[00:46] <Domincii> Thanks, turns out the answer is hot.
[00:46] <gogeta> Domincii: hell you can even buy panels to attach to the case
[00:47] <dugous> hi
[00:47] <recursive_> I believe if you install lm_sensors and then run "sensors-detect" it'll go through and find all the temp sensors
[00:48] <Domincii> thanks
[00:48] <crassus__> Hello, how can I set my locale from English Australian to American English? For some reason my kids got at the computer and managed to change the language settings to Chinese, and I thought I had it fixed when I got it back to English, but it seems to be stuck in Australian without anyway to fix it in the Settings application. Is there a way I can correct this from teh commandline?
[00:48] <gogeta> Domincii: been to long sense i played with reading my temps i can tell by how the pc is beaving if its to hot
[00:49] <ramos> can someone here walk me through port forwarding for my webcam?
[00:49] <Domincii> The computer seems fine I'm just trying to work out if it's my shitty internet being shitty or if I'm running too much shit somehow
[00:49] <recursive_> psensors is a nice graphical display of the temp data
[00:50] <gogeta> Domincii: just sounds like the modem is overheating
[00:51] <gogeta> Domincii: or you have to mutch line noise its comming for cable
[00:51] <gogeta> common
[00:51] <very> is there a way to specify a default application for a file type in 12.04?
[00:51] <Raistlin-> hello all
[00:52] <ramos> help with port forwarding anyone?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> !language > Domincii
[00:52] <gogeta> Domincii: the first one set a fan next to it
[00:52] <recursive_> ramos: fire away.
[00:52] <Tostada> Trying to install an Epson Workforce 323 all in one printer on 12.04.. Printer seems to work fine but the scanner doesn't.  Any suggestions/Advice ? Thank you.
[00:52] <recursive_> ramos:  what software are you using for your webcam.  do you know what ports you need opened?
[00:52] <Hatori> very, exactly linux was not relies on file type like windows does ... But you can choose to open with application with right click
[00:53] <crassus__> Ok, I solved my problem, with this answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133011/set-default-language-to-english-us-in-12-04
[00:53] <Raistlin-> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a external hard drive...from a netbook acer...no cd rom, if i try to go trough usb unversal installer = i get no cdrom, if i go trough the windows installer...it sas missing file i get on a black screen with boot:
[00:53] <Raistlin-> any sugestion?
[00:53] <ramos> recursive_, let me give you the rundown first
[00:54] <very> Hatori: When I use a right click there is a menu item `Open With Other Application...`
[00:54] <gogeta> Raistlin-: try unetbootin you make a usb installer
[00:54] <ramos> recursive_, the webcam is connected directly to my router
[00:54] <Hatori> very, yes...
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum < Raistlin-
[00:54] <ramos> recursive_, what I want to do is be able to access it from anywhere outside my wireless lan
[00:55] <gogeta> Raistlin-: wait you trying to install from or to the drive
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, Check the md5sum of the ISO as well.
[00:55] <very> Hatori: But the other applications are just a list of Recommended, Related and Other Applications.
[00:55] <Hatori> choose other application you want... And make defaults do you want
[00:55] <recursive_> ramos: so this is network webcam?  never tried one of those.  I'm guessing it has an ip address that you pop in a browser somewhere?
[00:55] <Raistlin-> im trying to install on the external harddrive...
[00:56] <recursive_> ramos:  In that case, do you know how to get to your router's configuration page?
[00:56] <gogeta> Raistlin-: hua
[00:56] <ramos> recursive_, exactly...The cam has its own ip and what I want to do it access it remotely
[00:56] <Raistlin-> hua?
[00:56] <gogeta> Raistlin-: you trying to  put linux on the ext drive or the netbook
[00:56] <Raistlin-> ext drive
[00:57] <very> Hatori: But the list doesn't contain the application I want. In 10.04 I was able to select the executable with a file dialog.
[00:57] <ramos> recursive_, yes I know how get into it...Problem is im not sure what info to put in for port forwarding....I'm sure I got all the info I need though (ip addres, dns, gateway, etc)
[00:57] <gogeta> Raistlin-: just treat it like any other drive then just make shure to slect grub to install on that drive
[00:57] <Hatori> very, you should browse and choose on
[00:58] <very> Hatori: There is no `Browse` button. Only a `Find applications online` button which doesn't find any applications.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, An external drive is not your problem, that is the easy part using a manual install, you need to check if the ISO Is not corrupt with a md5sum and be aware of a driver missing if you still get a black screen without any errors the next time you try.
[00:58] <recursive_> ramos:  ok, so the end goal here will be to setup a port forward such that when you point your web browser at your external IP address (the one your ISP gives you) it gets forwarded to the ip of the webcam at port 80
[00:59] <Hatori> very, can you exactly enter a exact path... I no have 12.04
[00:59] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: something tells me hes trying to install to and from at the same time
[00:59] <ramos> recursive_, yes I understand what you're saying
[00:59] <excervo> hello guys, i want an high end sound to put on my system with ubuntu os, any soundcard would you recommend?
[00:59] <recursive_> ramos:  and you're saying you've created that port forwarding rule in your router and it doesnt work?
[00:59] <Raistlin-> well i just dowloaded the iso...i dont see why it would be corrupt...it comes from ubuntu site
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> gogeta, That may be the case one never knows.
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, If you just assume you will get no where.
[01:00] <ramos> recursive_, I haven't done anything yet...I haven't set up port forwarding before
[01:00] <very> Hatori: In 10.04 I was able to enter a path. Seems like they removed the feature.
[01:00] <Raistlin-> true
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, When you have problems you have to start knocking out possibilities
[01:01] <recursive_> oh.  ok.  well its pretty basic.  there should be a spot where you can specify what port number you want forwarded and which IP address to forward to.
[01:01] <Raistlin-> oki
[01:01] <Raistlin-> that is waht i was starting asking if it was the drive the problem
[01:01] <recursive_> port 80 is the default for most webpages (like that of your webcam)
[01:01] <locoguano> In order to get music artist info to show I have to manually search each artist. Is there a setting that I am missing?
[01:02] <Hatori> very, thats seems a bad thing :d
[01:02] <ramos> recursive_, so are we talking port range triggering, single port forwarding, or port range forwarding?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, The usb installer and the external are different devices?
[01:02] <recursive_> single port forwarding
[01:03] <Raistlin-> well the usb installer(from ubuntu site) is software adn the external..is hardware...im assuming this what you are asking...
[01:03] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: whers my money
[01:03] <gogeta> lol
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, NO I'm asking if the are 2 different hardware deveices
[01:03] <very> maybe i should have installed the application with a packet manager.
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> devices*
[01:03] <paladinn> Could not store password: Erro ao comunicar-se com o gnome-keyring-daemon in mysql-workbench, any solution ?
[01:04] <BarkingFish> Morning guys - I think we have a problnem. I have perfect network connectivity here, but I suspect that one of our mirrors is down.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> gogeta, hehe. ;-)
[01:04] <BarkingFish> I have just tried to pull down some packages for mplayer, and been presented with this error: E: Error http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/multiverse mplayer-fonts all 3.5-2 - Something wicked happened resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[01:05] <ramos> recursive_, ok so this is what  have, application name - http, external  80, port 80, internal port 80, protocol, tcp, to IP address 192.168.1.112, enabled
[01:05] <gogeta> Raistlin-: you cant run the install and install on the partation the install formats the data your trying to install
[01:05] <bombaytracker> hello
[01:05] <Raistlin-> oki
[01:05] <Hatori> barkingfish, rerun again
[01:05] <recursive_> ramos:  sounds reasonable.
[01:05] <Hatori> hello bombaytracker
[01:05] <BarkingFish> Hatori, ok - give me one moment, I'll have another shot.
[01:05] <gogeta> Raistlin-: you need to put the installer on a sd card or something and from ther install to the ext drive
[01:06] <ramos> recursive_, ok so what about the config page for my webcam?
[01:06] <Raistlin-> ok i understand..
[01:06] <recursive_> ramos:  next step is to look up your external IP address and pop that puppy in your browser to admire your handwork
[01:06] <BarkingFish> Hatori - it's running now. Do you have any idea what caused that?
[01:06] <bombaytracker> I have a question for the Ubuntu-Professionals (well actually two questiones)
[01:06] <recursive_> ramos: how do you usually access the config page?
[01:06] <Raistlin-> so basicly, I put the usb intaller on a usb stick and then isntall on my hard drive....
[01:06] <Raistlin-> i understand
[01:06] <Hatori> barkingfish, maybe some bad connection for some times :d
[01:07] <Raistlin-> thanks
[01:07] <gogeta> Raistlin-: yep that will work fine
[01:07] <bombaytracker> I just installed Ubuntu today for the first time instead of Windows and I wonder why the Ubuntu system is so slow
[01:07] <ramos> recursive_,  well right now I'm accessing it through the dhcp ip it obtained from the router
[01:07] <Raistlin-> gogeta thanks for the helps...its logicial...
[01:07] <Hatori> !ask | bombaytracker
[01:07] <BarkingFish> ah, ok Hatori - thank you
[01:07] <gogeta> Raistlin-: being your installing onto a ext rember to tell grub to install there and not internely
[01:07] <Raistlin-> is it less demanding then windows 7?
[01:07] <gogeta> Raistlin-: or think will brake when the drives not connected
[01:08] <gogeta> things
[01:08] <bombaytracker> okay Hatori I understand
[01:08] <bombaytracker> question: why is a fresh Ubuntu installation so slow?
[01:08] <recursive_> ramos:  wait, when you did the port forwarding, you forwarded to the ip address of the webcam, right?  not your computer...
[01:08] <Hatori> bombaytracker, thats sound bads..but maybe need knowloedges,why this is happen
[01:09] <ramos> recursive_, that's right
[01:09] <bombaytracker> okay, another question: why does my installation of gnome 3 not work  or even appear on the boot screen?
[01:09] <ramos> recursive_, but now there's a config page that needs to be set up on the webcam
[01:09] <Hatori> bombaytracker, commonly related with the graphic card
[01:09] <gogeta> Raistlin-: then after install you would be able to slect the usb drive when you hit your boot menu key and start linux
[01:09] <Raistlin-> is ubuntu less demanding then windows 7? (read faster OS)
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, Did you install it as gnome-shell
[01:10] <bombaytracker> okay, last question:  what does "slackbuild" mean and how do I do it?
[01:10] <gogeta> Raistlin-: at some things
[01:10] <recursive_> ramos:  and is that at a different port than the regular webcam page?
[01:10] <bombaytracker> yes, wilee-nilee
[01:10] <bombaytracker> I installed it 2 times
[01:10] <gogeta> Raistlin-: im no fan on stock ubuntu
[01:10] <gogeta> of
[01:10] <Hatori> bombaytracker, what specs laptop are you using?
[01:10] <bombaytracker> it is a lenovo thinkpad t61
[01:10] <gogeta> Raistlin-: for a netbook i suggest lubuntu
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, What ubuntu release is this
[01:10] <Raistlin-> basicly, web browsing, email, cam chat with wife while im deployed, watching movies, and music
[01:10] <bombaytracker> the latest Ubuntu version
[01:11] <n0sq> what doesn't quassel allow me to ignore someone?
[01:11] <recursive_> ramos:  so to view your webcam, you browse to 192.168.1.112, and to configure it, there's another page?  192.168.1.112:8080 (or some other port?)
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, You know of the dropdown right at login?
[01:11] <gogeta> Raistlin-: something wrong with the internel drive?
[01:11] <n0sq> what ==why
[01:11] <bombaytracker> didn't see any dropdown, I only saw the password prompt at login
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> n0sq, Quantal?
[01:12] <Raistlin-> gogeta not at all, i just want to try out something new, and something different
[01:12] <gogeta> Raistlin-: or just keeping windows there?
[01:12] <bombaytracker> but I am new to Ubuntu so maybe I have just not found it
[01:12] <bombaytracker> I will try to find it, wilee-nilee, thank you
[01:12] <Raistlin-> gogeta i want to keet windows there if i have problem with ubuntu
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, Right next to the login is a gear click it for the dropdown of available desktops
[01:12] <ramos> recursive_, yes, that's right.. and it's asking for information like static, dhcp, primary and secondary dns, subnet mask and default gateway
[01:13] <bombaytracker> I see, wilee-nilee, thank you very much for the hint
[01:13] <Raistlin-> keep*
[01:13] <recursive_> well, you can setup multiple port forwarding rules
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, no problem. ;)
[01:13] <bombaytracker> but there is still another question: how to use a so-called "slackbuild"?
[01:13] <gogeta> Raistlin-: thats fine its just as a said make shure grub goes to the ext
[01:13] <Raistlin-> oki
[01:13] <Raistlin-> thanks :)
[01:13] <gogeta> Raistlin-: and i suggest this for netbooks
[01:14] <gogeta> Raistlin-: http://lubuntu.net/
[01:14] <Raistlin-> :)
[01:14] <Hatori> Bombaytracker, slackbuild was used by slackware linux and their derivative
[01:14] <gogeta> Raistlin-: and 2 packages laptop-mode-tools and zram
[01:14] <recursive_> word of caution though:  if these webpages don't have any kind of security or login checks, this is publicly accessible.
[01:14] <Raistlin-> is it complaxe
[01:14] <Raistlin-> complex?
[01:14] <bombaytracker> Hatori: and how do I do such a slackbuild?
[01:14] <gogeta> Raistlin-: laptop mode fixes the bad power magment of the stock kernel more battery life
[01:14] <gogeta> Raistlin-: naa there install and forget
[01:15] <Raistlin-> ok thnaks
[01:15] <Raistlin-> ill look at ti
[01:15] <Hatori> bombaytracker, thats not recommended ..
[01:15] <gogeta> Raistlin-: i get 4 and a half hrs with laptop mode and my batery is only a 3 cell rated for 3 hrs
[01:15] <recursive_> ramos:  it may not be advisable to forward config pages to the outside world.  but a second port forward would do the trick.
[01:15] <gogeta> Raistlin-: zram uses ram for swap and compresses memery
[01:15] <ramos> recursive_, I don't follow you
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, Here is the latest slackware build. http://www.slackware.com/
[01:16] <bombaytracker> wilee-nilee: if I get you right, this slackware is another linux system?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> bombaytracker, Yeah, I believe puppylinux is now slack based as well.
[01:17] <bombaytracker> damn
[01:17] <Hatori> bombaytracker, slackware was oldest popular linux distro
[01:17] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: puppy can be based on slack and debions
[01:17] <recursive_> ramos:  just commenting not to forward anything that you consider private if your webcam doesn't have some kind of login page or something to stop random people from mucking with it.
[01:17] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: there is a ubuntu puppy out there as well
[01:18] <bombaytracker> the problem is, I want to install a .deb file and this installation requires the installation of other packets first and the only good howto I could find seemed to be a slackbuild
[01:18] <ramos> recursive_, yeah I got that
[01:18] <recursive_> oh about the second port forwarding rule?
[01:18] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: the maker made that change so they where not only limited to puppy only packages
[01:18] <bombaytracker> but maybe someone could help me with that anyways
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> gogeta, Yeah I know, I know al about puppy, the latest is slack though, all the others are puplets. http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[01:19] <eduardo> my wireless won't obtain a valid ip address, can anyone help?
[01:19] <recursive_> well you can make as many port forwards as you want in your router.  simply make another one.  Same IP address and everything, but instead of telling it its a HTTP site (which probably just sets it to forward port 80), forward the port at which the config page sits.
[01:19] <ramos> recursive_, yeah that too
[01:19] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: lucid puppy i the ubuntu one
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> gogeta, and not the latest release
[01:20] <Ray2> wilee-nilee, Macpup-529 based on ubuntu precise
[01:20] <recursive_> ramos: ... so did it work?  if you point your browser at your external IP address, do you see your webcam?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Ray2, and considered a puplet I believe
[01:20] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: yea always take them a bit but im shure a 12.04 one will come
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> the developer switched to slack is all
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> as of now lol
[01:21] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: no he didnt the builder supports both
[01:22] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: i knoe i did pupee 4.2
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> ah
[01:22] <very> Hatori: I think I got it. I put a link to the executable into ~/.local/share/applications/
[01:22] <recursive_> ramos:  worth mentioning:  your webcam's ip address is dynamically assigned.  it *could* change on you (though often it won't if there's no reason to).  Some routers have a way to always give certain devices (identified by their MAC address) the same IP address every time.  It might be worth checking if your router can do that for you.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> they are al good it depends on what you are looking for
[01:23] <very> well, actually the link was there already. but the command did not end with %f
[01:23] <ramos> recursive_, looks like I got it working
[01:23] <ramos> Now I'm gonna go outside my network to test it
[01:23] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: yea they are working on a 12.04 puppy
[01:25] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: what changed with puppy was the old builder would only support pet files. as for puppy 5 it support deb rpm pet and slackware
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> I had read that yeah gogeta
[01:26] <forgotmynick> Can someone explain why I'm getting a bunch of errors during install "the following file did not match its source copy on the cd/dvd" - I'm using a USB stick and the ISO MD5 is verified. I've tried many USBs and downloaded Ubuntu from another mirror but it's just not working. Please advise?
[01:27] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: so you are seeing puppys based on said distros
[01:27] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: it looks like the 12.04 is clled puppy ov-percise
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> gogeta, I mess with puppy on occasion, but am now overwhelmed by papers in a grad program so don't have the time.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> I'm just taking a break right now, I'm worn out, lol.
[01:28] <gogeta> wilee-nilee: i point people to it when they ask will ubuntu  run on 200mb ram
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> yeah me to damn small is to much of a hassle to get running, puppy is rather user friendly
[01:29] <diamonds> the "alt" key is not focusing on the current application
[01:29] <diamonds> I hit alt then type and it gives me general system options
[01:29] <gogeta> dsl is way outdated to
[01:29]  * hmmwhatsthisdo ponders if puppy could be shoehorned onto an Android/iOS device
[01:29] <gogeta> hmmwhatsthisdo: yes i saw that on youtube a tablet running pupy
[01:29] <forgotmynick> if i deselect download updates during install, it doesn't come up with any errors. why?!
[01:30] <recursive_> you can shoehorn ubuntu in a chroot environment on a tablet.
[01:30] <recursive_> check out Complete Linux Installer
[01:31] <gogeta> hmmwhatsthisdo: but the guy tht did it had to compiled the entire thing for arm the puppy communty does that make a arm distro
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> hmmwhatsthisdo, probably I have a nexus 7 it is just sets of partitions with grub as a bootloader I have not had time to see if I could do an actual dualboot, there are methods to run ubuntu on it though.
[01:31] <recursive_> works on my nexus 7 :)
[01:31] <recursive_> birds of a feather IRC together, eh?
[01:32] <gogeta> h\heh at night im on hear on a nook tablet
[01:32] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to convert a text file to pdf using a2x ??
[01:32] <recursive_> admittedly, its pretty ugly.  you're still running the android kernel so some things get a little shakey when they depend on kernel modules that aren't there.
[01:32] <recursive_> and graphics is all through vnc.
[01:33] <gogeta> recursive_: yep ill wait for the nativ sloution
[01:33] <recursive_> gogeta:  I'm hoping that comes soon.  There's work on a native X server for android.
[01:34] <recursive_> gogeta: so at least graphics wouldn't be so incredibly painful.  the chroot thing does have the perk of not requiring bootloader changes, or reboots.
[01:35] <J_Bullet> hi... I need to upgrade a server running ubuntu server 7.04 to a currently supported release, how do I do this?
[01:36] <gogeta> recursive_: well if they manage to make it work something like wubi
[01:36] <gogeta> recursive_: that will be plenty good enough
[01:36] <InternetFriends> You blocked me on Freenode and now you're going to die.
[01:37] <recursive_> J_Bullet: that sounds like trouble.  is it critical you upgrade in place, or could a fresh install work?
[01:37] <zabomber> InternetFriends: interesting statement....
[01:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo> +q $~a?
[01:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Never heard of that before.
[01:41] <dev___> im still having wifi problems
[01:41] <dev___> :(
[01:43] <WeThePeople> dev___, whats up?
[01:43] <tucemiux> anyone knows whats the equivalent of word in ubuntu?
[01:43] <dev___> my wifi chip is having problems with ubuntu i randomly get disconnected from internet
[01:43] <recursive_> tucemiux:  whatever you want!  I use google docs a lot.  OpenOffice is another good one
[01:44] <dev___> when on wifi
[01:44] <WeThePeople> gedit
[01:44] <dev___> i compiled the driver from realtek website and it still has the problem
[01:44] <recursive_> tucemiux: if you're really adventurous, it is sometimes possible to run Microsoft word itself through WINE
[01:44] <WeThePeople> dev___, what is the make model
[01:45] <recursive_> dev__: don't say 8188
[01:45] <tucemiux> recursive_,  you know if the new version of word runs in wine? o.O
[01:45] <dev___> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1944493
[01:45] <dev___> and yes
[01:45] <dev___> i believe it is
[01:45] <recursive_> tucemiux:  2010?  Last I checked, it was a pain to setup and I can't vouch for its stability, but I have successfully used 2007.
[01:46] <dev___> rtl8188ce
[01:46] <recursive_> dev__:  I feel your pain.  I have that one too
[01:46] <dev___> Did you fix the probs with yours?
[01:46] <recursive_> dev__: Lenovo x120e?
[01:46] <dev___> nope i have a HP dv6
[01:47] <recursive_> dev__: nah not really.  It works ok out of the box, but it does drop connections and occasionally just slows way down.
[01:47] <dev___> how much does it drop connections  for you ?
[01:48] <dev___> for me its about every other 5 or 2 minutes
[01:48] <recursive_> dev__: depends.  On my home network, almost never.  On my old university campus with WPA2 (not sure if that specifically was the issue though), all the time.
[01:48] <dev___> I have delt with this issue to the point im considering going back to windows
[01:48] <recursive_> dev__: that campus was probably RF hell too.
[01:49] <recursive_> dev__: I got tired of troubleshooting and just bought a usb wifi card for which i knew good drivers existed
[01:49] <dev___> do you still use it?
[01:49] <dev___> what wifi card?
[01:49] <recursive_> dev__: kind of a bummer, but having one of those things laying around is a useful tool in a lot of circumstances
[01:50] <recursive_> i do
[01:50] <recursive_> mine is an Asus WL-167g
[01:50] <recursive_> don't know if they still make them.  there are probably better ones out there now.
[01:51] <locoguano> Trying to get my Music Library sorted out. In order to get artist info and thumbnails working I am having to refresh each artist individually. "Query info for all artists" gets the info, but no thumbs. Is there a way around doing this all manually?
[01:51] <dev___> are you on the laptop right now or no?
[01:51] <recursive_> no, I'm on a desktop
[01:52] <dev___> :(
[01:52] <dev___> I really don't know what to do now
[01:52] <dev___> go back to windows and get game support back and others or stay on ubuntu
[01:53] <recursive_> dev__:  If you were super motivated, you could swap out the wifi card inside your laptop.  most of them are mini pci anyhow.  its possible (except the bios on my x120e actually checks to make sure its a specific card.  what a pain)
[01:53] <dev___> I prefer learning perl on linux though
[01:53] <clunkychicken> what are you trying to do?
[01:53] <clunkychicken> cause in reality, wine can do some fun stuff if u provide the correct libraries to it
[01:53] <dev___> Yea that would be to much trouble
[01:54] <clunkychicken> no support for the card?
[01:54] <dev___> I think tomarrow i will pull the modem and wifi and put in my room and use wired
[01:54] <locoguano> crap.. my bad. wrong channel
[01:54] <dev___> but if i have any other problems im just going back to windows
[01:54] <dev___> I miss alot of things yet i gain alot of things using ubuntu
[01:54] <dev___> always something -_-
[01:55] <dev___> testbottestbot?
[01:55] <recursive_> dev__:  I feel your pain.  Who knows, I haven't used that laptop that much in the last couple months, maybe driver support has improved.  For me, it seemed to work more or less fine on my own private wifi network.
[01:56] <dev___> yea i am using my own but drops are horrible
[01:56] <dev___> and it does get slow
[01:56] <recursive_> OH
[01:56] <dev___> Ive searched the interwebs and tried so many methods
[01:56] <dev___> none work
[01:56] <recursive_> dev__: I remembered i found a workaround
[01:56] <dev___> You remember how to do it?
[01:56] <recursive_> I think part of the slowdown issue had to do with network-manager performing periodic scans for nearby networks
[01:57] <recursive_> so what you might try is abandoning network-manager and trying out wicd instead
[01:57] <recursive_> wicd doesn't scan once connected
[01:58] <dev___> alright
[01:58] <dylan> howdy
[01:58] <dylan> Everytime I try to run an apt-get install I get "Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[01:59] <dylan> any help?
[01:59] <clunkychicken> hey dylan: have you tried updating apt-get?
[01:59] <dev___> I cant wait intel steam comes to linux when/if it does. Windows will be obsolete
[02:02] <dylan> Everytime I try to run an apt-get install I get "Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[02:02] <XDev> dylan
[02:02] <clunkychicken> try this
[02:02] <clunkychicken> sudo apt-get update
[02:02] <dylan> apt-get update ran just fine
[02:02] <dylan> from what I can see
[02:03] <dylan> it's only on an apt-get install
[02:03] <dylan> that i get the error
[02:04] <OerHeks> dylan, answer #2 will solve it > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/196259
[02:05] <dylan> Errors were encountered while processing: libssl1.0.0:i386
[02:05] <dylan> it failed when I used the dpkg -i
[02:06] <art3m> Anyone ever setup SQUID on ubuntu????
[02:06] <vamsiraju_> I set it up once
[02:06] <art3m> hows the configuration? complex?
[02:07] <zruty> How can I force a package to be upgraded?
[02:08] <zruty> apt-get upgrade does not seem to work.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> art3m, This channel is for support for problems, but here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid
[02:09] <KM0201> !squid | art3m
[02:11] <art3m> I know what it is... i setup squid on my computer and forgot username and password and I don't have remote access to my server as I never setup ssh is there anything I can do?
[02:11] <jagginess> art3m, your forgot the password, that's not our problem
[02:11] <art3m> I guess I'll be back in town in couple of days
[02:12] <art3m> yes, thank you...
[02:12] <wdsnead> i have a dual boot PC with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04. Can my Ubuntu be upgraded to 11 or 12 and not harm the window 7 installation nor it's files?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> wdsnead, This a install from windows=wubi or a partitioned install?
[02:13] <XDev> you are luck i couldnt figure out how to dual boot with my windows 7 it always booted into windows 7 and never gave option for ubuntu
[02:13] <wdsnead> partitioned. windows on one and ubuntu on the other...
[02:13] <jagginess> XDev, you didnt/ or at least tell grub to install properly
[02:13] <jagginess> !boot-repair
[02:13] <XDev> How didnt i
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> wdsnead, Sholud not be a problem, but always have backups anyway, a clone is your best insurance.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> Should*
[02:14] <jagginess> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:14] <jagginess> ^
[02:14] <dylan> "Errors were encountered while processing: libssl1.0.0:i386"
[02:14] <dylan> it failed when I used the dpkg -i
[02:15] <jagginess> dylan, you don't have an application packaged?
[02:15] <wdsnead> okay. thanks so much. the window 7 install was pretty straight forward. guess i was lucky. have a blessed evening.
[02:16] <XDev> That seems hard to configure
[02:16] <jagginess> XDev, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:16] <jagginess> XDev, download that and burn it on a cd.
[02:17] <XDev> Anyone know any tutorials on how to dual boot Now with windows 7 / ubuntu (12.04)
[02:17] <XDev> Jagg i checked
[02:17] <XDev> Is there a actuall tut on it? I scanned through seems hard
[02:17] <jagginess> XDev, fix the ubuntu boot first. I'll tell you how to fix the menu up.
[02:17] <XDev> When i was trying to dual with windows 7 i created a partition in windows
[02:17] <jagginess> .
[02:17] <XDev> and ubuntu never recognized it correctly
[02:17] <XDev> it was ntfs
[02:17] <XDev> nfts
[02:17]  * jagginess will ignore XDev if he doesnt fix his ubuntu boot
[02:17] <XDev> what ever the format is
[02:17] <FloodBot1> XDev: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:18] <jagginess> XDev, does ubuntu Boot, y/n?
[02:18] <XDev> no
[02:18] <jagginess> so fix it.
[02:18] <XDev> Right now i have ubuntu only
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> XDev, http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p23.html
[02:19] <XDev> :(. So i will reinstall windows again create 2 partitions install ubuntu on one
[02:19] <XDev> and use this boot repair cd?
[02:21] <jagginess> XDev, you should ask for someone's help, dual-boot isnt for you. I can tell you don't have a clue what to do.. (see about "boot loaders" on wikipedia to get started)
[02:22] <XDev> Jagg perhapse you can't tell. I have dual booted many times on my desktop,
[02:22] <XDev> With this laptop it is different.
[02:22] <KM0201> why is it different?
[02:23] <XDev> or perhapse its just 12.04 i have dual booted in the past with older version
[02:23] <jagginess> well ask the guy who helped you before.. Because you need to know the basics of how boot loaders to fix multi-booting scenarios
[02:23] <XDev> The old way i did it didnt work for me that is why i say its diferent
[02:23] <KM0201> well, what did you do?
[02:24] <XDev> All i did before was create partition in windows loaded up ubuntu on cd instlaled to that partition witch it recognized and that was all,
[02:24] <XDev> I got the option of ether windows 7 or ubuntu
[02:25] <KM0201> i guess i'm confused, why is this not working on your laptop?
[02:25] <XDev> upon boot
[02:25] <XDev> That is what i dont know
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> XDev, YOu can't make a partition for ubuntu in windows
[02:25] <jagginess> XDev, sounds like you wiped out windows anyways.
[02:25] <jagginess> lol
[02:25] <XDev> No
[02:25]  * jagginess thinks people who "think" they can allocate an ext4 in windows don't know what they're talking about
[02:25] <XDev> The way i said before worked perfectly fine
[02:26] <XDev> never wiped out windows
[02:26] <recursive_> Perhaps GRUB was never installed, or installed to the wrong disk.
[02:26] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: well, you can...
[02:26] <recursive_> in windows (or ubuntu) you should be able to get a look at the partitioning of your disk
[02:26] <KM0201> you just clear the space under windows, then you just install ubuntu to that free space
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> KM0201, not using the windows partitioner.
[02:27] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: yes you can.. you clear the space w/ windows partitioner, then you install to that partition w/ the ubuntu installer (which formats the filesystem)
[02:27] <XDev> Jagg im not saying you are wrong. All im saying is i did it before
[02:27] <rhizmoe> how do i disable humanized modified date/time in thunar?
[02:27] <KM0201> i've helped people do it many, many times
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> KM0201, That is not making a partition as the user decsribed
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> described
[02:27] <XDev> Weather all the steps i said before are right It worked when i did it and that is all i know
[02:27] <XDev> So obvisouly i can
[02:27] <rhizmoe> nevermind! it's a menu option
[02:27] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: i understand that, but we've already established he has no idea what he's talking about... so i think it's safe to say, thats what he did.
[02:28]  * jagginess says "Win7" can boot and resize it's own ntfs where C:\ is residing
[02:28] <XDev> Other wise i must have been high when i saw windows 7/ ubuntu option and loaded windows perfectly fine aswell as ubuntu
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> KM0201, Then why bother me.
[02:28] <XDev> or just non human
[02:28] <XDev> you pick
[02:28] <XDev> it worked though
[02:28] <FloodBot1> XDev: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: because you told him it couldn't be done... and yes it could.
[02:28] <XDev> http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[02:28] <recursive_> alright:  XDev, can you describe the state of your disk partitions?
[02:29] <XDev> that is similar to what i did
[02:29] <XDev> If that is so called {Impossible} well that you are wrong
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> KM0201, I said you can't make a partition for ubuntu in windows that is a true statement, if the user does not know the difference between a unallocated space and a partition they should say so.
[02:29] <recursive_> I am going to go ahead and assume we're talking about a single disk, with a a windows partition, possibly and ubuntu partition or free space?
[02:29] <XDev> Awh
[02:30] <XDev> Perhapse you did not know the difference between what i was saying
[02:30] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: you have to be a lawyer....  like i said, it's clear what he "meant" to say.... he cleared space for ubuntu and installed to that partition, just accept it, your life will be easier
[02:30] <XDev> Just accept nothing,
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> XDev, You have made little sense in all your rhetoric, lol
[02:31] <KM0201> wilee-nilee: now that, we can agree on
[02:31] <XDev> Ether way this method http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony witch i did before doesnt work
[02:31] <XDev> Can someone help
[02:31] <tyler_d> !ask
[02:31] <tyler_d> !ask | XDev
[02:32] <XDev> I did that
[02:32] <tyler_d> XDev: in which case, ask again
[02:33] <XDev> -_-. Can someone help with dual booting, this is the method i tried and doesn't work http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[02:34] <recursive_> Does your system have a single hard drive?
[02:34] <XDev> yes
[02:34] <XDev> I do however have a external
[02:34] <recursive_> Ok, I wanted to eliminate the possibility that you accidentally installed grub to the wrong disk.
[02:34] <XDev> no
[02:35] <XDev> When i tried that method all that happens is I go to windows only, and cant get back into ubuntu
[02:36] <tyler_d> was windows already on this device?
[02:36] <XDev> yes
[02:36] <tyler_d> XDev: where did you shrink it to?
[02:36] <recursive_> So when I do a dual-boot, my process is as follows:  (1) Install Windows - Allow windows to install to a partition which is roughly half the disk, and leave the remainder as unallocated, free space.  (2)  Install Ubuntu, make sure ubuntu knows to use that free space.  Let the ubuntu installer partition and format its own free space that we left over when installing windows.  (3) Let the Ubuntu installer install GRUB (which lets
[02:36] <recursive_>  us choose which OS to boot into).  This is usually the default setup.
[02:37] <XDev> resursive
[02:37] <recursive_> XDev:  It sounds like GRUB may have failed to install for some reason.  In this case, Windows' bootloader is left in place.
[02:37] <tyler_d> ^makes sense to me.
[02:38] <XDev> The only thing i have a prob with is the settings upon installing ubuntu to partition that unallocated space
[02:38] <XDev> And aftewards the bootloader part
[02:39] <KM0201> XDev: if you made the unallocated partition under Windows, you would need to do that manually
[02:39] <jagginess>  ..
[02:39] <jagginess> ..
[02:39] <jagginess> just use gparted live cd
[02:39] <KM0201> XDev: how much space did you clear for Ubuntu?
[02:39] <jagginess> end-of-story.
[02:40] <KM0201> jagginess: well, if he's already cleared the space, that's kinda pointless
[02:40] <jagginess> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:40] <jagginess> no.
[02:40] <KM0201> yea.
[02:40] <jagginess> he should just make two partitions. 1 for ext4 and the other for swap.
[02:40] <XDev> well i have tried multiples times so im bascing my information off those
[02:40] <KM0201> evne if he uses a gparted live cd to partition the space, he will have to set that partition up manually
[02:40] <jagginess> (and have whatever 1 or 2 ntfs that are already there untouched)
[02:40] <recursive_> also, you can install and run gparted from an ubuntu live cd right before the install
[02:40] <XDev> I have tried half of 600GB half windows / ubuntu
[02:40] <jagginess> yeah.. but gparted livecd is always the latest edition.
[02:40] <Malsasa_> Hello, I have 10.10. TOday i upgrade the kernel to 3.2. But my graphic is same. I want my 10.10 is like 12.04. 12.04 can enable my Compiz, but 10.10 is not. My 12.04 LSPCI is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09). How do I fix this?
[02:41]  * KM0201 wishes people would actually read what people say before they make themselves look like morons
[02:41] <jagginess> KM0201, he doesnt even have a swap partition.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Malsasa_
[02:41] <KM0201> jagginess: i'm well aware of that
[02:41] <KM0201> but that has nothing to do w/ his problem at the moment
[02:42] <jagginess> KM0201, well he's been on here for like 20 minutse already. No progress with you here..
[02:42] <KM0201> jagginess: because i've not been following his conversation
[02:42] <KM0201> but i can tell there's a few "helping" him, who have no clue what they are talking about... and your comments immediately jumped out
[02:42] <recursive_> XDev: I believe ubuntu's installer has a "install ubuntu to empty space" option that takes care of it for you.
[02:42] <jagginess> no..
[02:42] <KM0201> recursive_: no... that will not work
[02:42] <jagginess> XDev, easiest tool for you is gparted live  cd.. to see what the hell it is with your partition setup.
[02:42] <XDev> I never saw that
[02:43] <KM0201> XDev: answer your PM before you get more bad advice.. i'll talk you through this.
[02:43] <KM0201> don't use a frickin gparted live CD... god people... READ WHAT HE IS SAYING... he already has the partition made
[02:43] <KM0201> he has to manually set the partition...
[02:43] <jagginess> KM0201, and so you think he does..
[02:43] <tyler_d> I'll be right to bed honey, someones wrong on the internet.
[02:43]  * jagginess retires to Hallelujah
[02:43] <KM0201> tyler_d: lmao
[02:44] <XDev> So far Recursive's been the only one with reasonable advice km / jagg all you have done is say i am wrong. Obviously i am not as experienced in this otherwise i wouldnt be in a ubuntu support channel -_-
[02:44] <KM0201> XDev: either answer my PM and i will help you, or i'll simply dub you a troll and ignore.
[02:44] <KM0201> cuz the advice you're getting here is terrible
[02:44] <XDev> dub me a troll? Look in the mirror and read what i just said
[02:45] <KM0201> i guess that means ignore..lol
[02:45] <jagginess> !ops KM0201
[02:45]  * KM0201 chuckles
[02:45] <twitchie> KM0201: please stop saying people are giving terrible advice and being a troll
[02:45] <KM0201> XDev: i have tried to help you, you will not listen.
[02:46] <tyler_d> KM0201: from what I have seen, you have done no such thing
[02:46] <KM0201> twitchie: have you actually scrolled up to see the context of this conversation?... i've came here for a long time, and have never been accused of giving out "bad advice"
[02:46] <lobhater> be the bigger man
[02:46] <KM0201> tyler_d: i'm th eonly one that seems to understand his problem
[02:46] <Malsasa_> But I want to install it.
[02:47] <tyler_d> KM0201: I get that it's frustrating, but you are getting way to emotional over this. simply help him here. if he doesn't respond and decides to troubleshoot with someone else. don't take it personally
[02:47] <tete> selling Notch autograph, bid starts at 2000 usd
[02:48] <KM0201> i'm not taking it personal, other than when someone calls me a troll, when if they would just scroll up, they'd see that is absolutely noot th ecase.
[02:48] <tyler_d> ok. so let's just move on.
[02:48] <KM0201> anyway, i'm done... i'll go off to calmer channels..lol, XDev as i said, if you want help, just PM me...
[02:48] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: are you trying this dual boot on a newer machine?
[02:48] <XDev> Yes?
[02:48] <tyler_d> know anything about getting the 'fn' key to work on an apple alu keyboard(bluetooth) that show's 0 input through xev
[02:49] <tyler_d> :p
[02:49] <KM0201> lol
[02:49] <KM0201> wish i did
[02:49] <recursive_> XDev:  If this documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall) is up to date, I was mistaken about there being a "Use empty space" option.  I may have been thinking of the "Install Ubuntu Alongside them" option.
[02:50] <KM0201> recursive_: and beyond that... using the "install to empty space" would not work for him anyway.. again, understand how to install/what the installer does, before you give someone advice
[02:50] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: I recently had a problem installing dual boot with windows 7 in a machine w/ SecuROM
[02:50] <milamber> XDev: the instructions you were following indicate that you have to take steps to prevent that from happening. can you be more specific about which steps you have followed and what your initial config was? (ie was windows already installed?)
[02:51] <recursive_> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding his issue then.
[02:51] <milamber> XDev: "that" meaning your original problem - windows bootloader ignoring ubuntu - i realize now it has been a while since you stated that
[02:51] <XDev> Windows was already installed. I have both tried unallocating space in windows and upon installing windows first. And then using that free space in ubuntu to install on
[02:51] <KM0201> recursive_: you are
[02:51] <Cyberspaceloa> recursive_: it's kind of hard to understand his issue, because he doesn't have a grasp on the terminology
[02:52] <twitchie> cough .. grub
[02:52] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: not really... the bigger problem in addition to niot knowing what he wants to do, people are telling him (either through FAQ's or here) the wrong way to go about it, because of what he's already done
[02:53] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: Oh are you still here, I thought you were off to calmer waters ;)
[02:53] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: lol, mos tht eother channels i hang out in are dead right now...
[02:53] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: but seriously, you sound like you know what his problem is, can you point him to an FAQ or something
[02:53] <milamber> XDev: did you follow the instructions regarding using gparted to partition your drive?
[02:53] <KM0201> it just cracks me up how many people "answer" a problem here, w/o either having any grasp of what the problem actually is, or half assed reading the problem
[02:54] <XDev> No i have no link to a tut using gparted
[02:54] <XDev> Right now i am looking at (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[02:54] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: make a long story short... he partitioned a space for an Ubuntu install, using Windows.... now, he wants to install to that space... well, the only way he can do that, is to manually configure the space he has cleared
[02:54] <KM0201> thats why i don't understand why people keep telling him to use gparted, or to "install side by side", etc..
[02:55] <recursive_> Is that really true?
[02:55] <Parabola> KM0201: people are retarded
[02:55] <milamber> XDev: you originally linked to this  http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony   and there is a part regarding using gparted in that tutorial
[02:55] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I see, he's trying to install Ubuntu to an NTFS partition?
[02:55] <KM0201> yes... scroll up, that is his "problem"... which isn't really a problem, because it can be resolved in 2 seconds
[02:55] <Parabola> more importantly, ubuntu can automatically utilize that free space
[02:55] <Parabola> Cyberspaceloa: no
[02:55] <Parabola> thats not what he said at all
[02:55] <XDev> Alright i will look back.
[02:55] <Cyberspaceloa> yeah, then I've lost the tread of it
[02:55] <Cyberspaceloa> s/tread/thread
[02:55] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: well, my guess is, since ubuntu made it, it's probably ntfs.. but that doesn't mater
[02:56] <Parabola> some dickhead has X amount of free space, and is too stupid to know how to use it
[02:56] <Parabola> is the TLDR
[02:56] <KM0201> lol
[02:56] <recursive_> (reminded of Anchorman:  Boy that escalated quickly!)
[02:57] <KM0201> the filesystem of the space he cleared, is really irrelevant
[02:57] <Cyberspaceloa> is this the night shift or something
[02:57] <XDev> Parabola perhaps you should get out more instead of insult others that are not as experienced. This is afterall ubuntu support channel
[02:57] <Cyberspaceloa> comes with a free peanut gallery
[02:57] <Parabola> XDev: i'm not insulting anyone
[02:57] <KM0201> the real issue, he needs to MANUALLY SET UP THAT SPACE... and he keeps trying to use the automatic tools.. which is not going to work.
[02:57] <Parabola> recursive_: i love lamp
[02:57] <XDev> Sure you are trying
[02:58] <KM0201> and the beauty of it is, some of the "helpers" here keep telling him to use the auto tools, use gparted live cd's, etc... none of which is going to help him.
[02:58] <metap0d> hi everyone, I just installled ubuntu on my new laptop (Vizio CT14) and it came with a "FSPPS/2 Sentellic FingerSensingPad". The touchpad is VERY finnicky and I can't right click, is there anything I can do as a newbie?
[02:58] <milamber> XDev: i understand you are new at this, but going forward for people to be able to help you, you are going to have to remember what steps you have taken in a tutorial
[02:58] <Parabola> KM0201: welcome to the internet, watch your step
[02:58] <KM0201> lol :)
[02:58] <Parabola> metap0d: you can try lowering the sensitivity and enabling multi-touch if thats what you mean by right click
[02:58] <recursive_> Ah I was thinking of the "Install to largest continuous free space" option.  guess that doesn't exist anymore.  my bad.
[02:58] <milamber> XDev: the real issue here is that no one can figure out what the actual issue is because you can't point to a specific part of the tutorial that didn't work.
[02:59] <KM0201> i feel like Sgt. Hartman in Full Metal jacket when referring to priv. pyle... "I have tried to help him, but I have failed..."
[02:59] <Parabola> metap0d: i'm not an ubuntu guy, but its in its settings somewhere, i'd assume all settings > mouse
[02:59] <l3d> was wondering if I had a flv video and would like to make a mp3 of it what program should I use?
[02:59] <Parabola> gnome-shell 3 its there anyway
[02:59]  * KM0201 shutters at the thought of gnome 3
[02:59] <Parabola> shutters?
[02:59] <Parabola> unity is horrid
[02:59] <milamber> XDev: we really need a question in the format of: i am trying to <overall goal>. i am following <whatever tutorial>. i just got to the part where it said to do <something>, but <this happened instead>
[02:59] <XDev> Ok. HERE http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony  I have followed the tut on getting free space, then i skipped to installing and configuring.
[02:59] <metap0d> Parabola: I'm looking under settings, there is no multi-touch option : o
[03:00] <Parabola> hot corners dont work out of the box in unity, everything has fullscreen-itis
[03:00] <Parabola> and that dockbar is more than useless compared to the stock gnome one
[03:00] <KM0201> yeah, that takes getting used to...
[03:00] <Parabola> :)
[03:00] <Parabola> metap0d:  one sec mate ill look
[03:00] <svt_raiden> Hi all
[03:00] <Parabola> metap0d: oh yeah, not on a laptop, i wont have the settings
[03:00] <XDev> Milamber i have said many times i am trying to dual boot windows 7 / ubuntu failed about 4 times. Now i am stuck with ubuntu ONLY right now, with a windows 7 disc try beside me
[03:00] <Parabola> metap0d: there should be a tab under mouse settings, for touchpad
[03:00] <svt_raiden> can anyone tells me how to make maven 3.0.4 run?
[03:01] <svt_raiden> I had Maven 2
[03:01] <XDev> What DO I NEED TO DO to dual boot windows 7 and UBUNTU
[03:01] <metap0d> Parabola: Yeah I'm under the tab, but sadly no multi touch
[03:01] <Cyberspaceloa> um, XDev, this tutorial is for 9.10
[03:01] <KM0201> XDev: you need to not follow that tutorial
[03:01] <XDev> weather i have to reinstall windows first and then ubuntu or do it through ubuntu you tell me
[03:01] <metap0d> Parabola: I just want to click the button on the right of the touchpad to right click, but nowhere on the touchpad seems to work
[03:01] <KM0201> XDev: you can probably install through ubuntu.
[03:01] <metap0d> Parabola: I have a 1/50 chance in actually getting right click to open
[03:01] <Parabola> XDev: seriously? try googling. its pretty easy, install windows, due to its loader, then install linux
[03:01] <svt_raiden> and changed it to maven 3.0.4 but the app I want to build can't start mvn
[03:01] <Parabola> metap0d:  lol
[03:01] <svt_raiden> for some reason
[03:01] <KM0201> but.. (for the umteen millionth time).. you have to do this manually
[03:01] <svt_raiden> anyone?
[03:01] <XDev> PARABOLA I HAVE tried about 4 times
[03:02] <XDev> with various tuts online
[03:02] <Parabola> you've done it wrong 4 times
[03:02] <KM0201> lol
[03:02] <Parabola> because i'm dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu on this machine right now
[03:02] <XDev> well then tell me what ive done wrong 4 times then here
[03:02] <XDev> lol
[03:02] <Parabola> and i followed the first result on google
[03:02] <KM0201> XDev: what you done wrong, was using windows to partition the space.
[03:02] <XDev> ok what should have i done
[03:02] <XDev> KM?
[03:02] <Parabola> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[03:03] <KM0201> XDev: well, at this point, you've already done it.... so the easiest thing, is to adapt and overcome... use the space you made under windows, but... for the 204,303,203rd time.. you have to do this manually
[03:04] <Parabola> on a side note, WHY did google move adb out of /tools
[03:04] <Parabola> now i have to symlink it because they didnt bother to update their eclipse plugin
[03:04] <metap0d> : ()
[03:04] <XDev> KM you have told me manually. So am i suppose to manually pull the tut out my ass to do it?
[03:04] <Parabola> stop breaking shit that isnt broken
[03:04] <Parabola> XDev: no you lazy piece of shit, you google it
[03:04] <Parabola> the same thing you are trying to get us to do for you. dont get an atittude
[03:04] <Parabola> this support is free
[03:04] <xangua> !language | XDev Parabola
[03:04] <XDev> Google what?
[03:05] <Parabola> figure it out.
[03:05] <Parabola> my apologies xangua
[03:05] <KM0201> XDev: no, .. i have tried to help you, you refuse to listen.... i live byy the "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" motto
[03:05] <XDev> Wow i am in a ubuntu support and this guy tells me to google it lazy ass, and figure it out.
[03:05] <XDev> What support
[03:05] <Parabola> fire me then
[03:05] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: what exactly do you mean by manually
[03:05] <Parabola> i'll refund all your money
[03:05] <KM0201> instead, you're listening ot knuckleheads tell you to download gparted live cd's, which makes no sense, because you already have the drive partitioned
[03:05] <XDev> I would trust me
[03:06] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I'm curious what tools you are referring to
[03:06] <Parabola> I love symlinks
[03:06] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: he has already created the space w/ Windows (if i recall, he said he split a 600gig drive in half... 300 for Windows, 300 for ubuntu)
[03:06] <KM0201> if he starts the ubuntu installer now.. he will be given 1 of 3 options when it comes time to partiton.
[03:06] <KM0201> 1. take over the whole drive.
[03:06] <Parabola> KM0201: i think the saying "make it idiot proof and they'll just build a better idiot" fits in here
[03:06] <KM0201> 2.  install ubuntu side by side with Windows (and he WILL NOT be given the option to use the free space he just created)
[03:06] <KM0201> 3.  Manual
[03:06] <XDev> Its something else
[03:07] <KM0201> in order to use the space he has created under Windows, he has to manually set up that partition
[03:07] <Parabola> more importantly, if you're too daft to know what that means
[03:07] <XDev> i have clicked and done that 4 times now
[03:07] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I see, basically the graphical configuration tool that the installer offers?
[03:07] <Parabola> WHY are you trying to use linux?
[03:07] <XDev> KM0201 if by manual you mean the SOMETHING ELSE i believe option
[03:07] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: affirmative.. he can't use it, because he has already partitioned the drive
[03:08] <KM0201> XDev: hmm, it might be somethin else.. i thought it said "manually partition" or something like that.. but i usually use the text installer, so i will take your word for that
[03:08] <XDev> No it says something else
[03:08] <KM0201> ok
[03:08] <KM0201> then that is hte option you need
[03:08] <XDev> So this whole google manual bullshit and me taking into account that you were talking about something else
[03:08] <KM0201> then you will have to set up your partitions manually
[03:08] <XDev> was all wrong
[03:08] <KM0201> who said anything about google manual?
[03:09] <XDev> look back
[03:09] <Cyberspaceloa> settle down XDev, people are mean on the internet
[03:09] <Cyberspaceloa> but you're still getting help
[03:09] <KM0201> ok, it sure as hell wasn't me.. and what did i say earlier.... "YOU'RE GETTING HORRIBLE ADVICE"... and you refused to listen
[03:09] <Parabola> haha.
[03:09] <XDev> I know that but how are you going to sit in a support channel and troll on those who are trying to understand what you are talking about when indeed you are talking about something that isnt a option
[03:09] <XDev> or is called something else
[03:09] <Parabola> the best part is, you list 2 of the 3 options, you tell him not to use those 2, but to use the other one
[03:10] <Parabola> and hes too stupid to interpret that
[03:10] <Domincii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253148/ what do I do to fix this?
[03:10] <XDev> No I obvisously know not to use the first 2 options infact i never have in all 4 attempts
[03:10] <KM0201> XDev: again, i have offered to PM you and talk you through this.... my wording on what exactly the installer says may be wrong.. but i assure you, i have encountered your "problem" with new people trying to install approximately 80 gazillion times, and i've successfully worked around it many times
[03:10] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev is the option: "Something else: you can create or resize partitions yourself, or choose multiple partitions for Ubuntu"
[03:11] <XDev> YES THATS WHAT HIVE BEEN USING
[03:11] <l3d> was wondering if I had a flv video and would like to make a mp3 of it what program should I use?   nevermind winff is working well
[03:11] <XDev> I've
[03:11] <KM0201> then you're dong it wrong
[03:11] <XDev> O M G
[03:11] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev, settle, or I'm going to stop asking questions
[03:11] <tyler_d> oh kid the entertainment value is through the roof
[03:11] <KM0201> lol
[03:11] <Cyberspaceloa> it's hard enough to figure out what your problem is without all the exclamations
[03:11] <XDev> I bet it is
[03:12] <KM0201> his problem... is really quite simple to resolve.. yes, for a noob.. it's difficult.
[03:12] <XDev> km tell me then
[03:12] <KM0201> but someone who has set up linux dual boots multiple times, this is a 30sec isssue.
[03:12] <tyler_d> KM0201: make no mistake. I'm talking about you
[03:12] <Cyberspaceloa> see how I don't really care what KM0201 is saying, XDev
[03:12] <Domincii> Xdev, rewrite your problem, let's start from the top here.
[03:12] <tyler_d> ^Agree
[03:13]  * L3top just walked in... and agrees
[03:13] <Cyberspaceloa> just ignore, and work with the people who are willing to help
[03:13]  * milamber also agrees
[03:13] <Cyberspaceloa> even if we're "noobs"
[03:13] <KM0201> tyler_d: i'm not entertaining anything, several of you have no idea what you're talking about... and it's like blind leading the blind
[03:13] <KM0201> i've been willing to help.
[03:14] <tyler_d> well pro-star. let's start from the top here.
[03:14] <L3top> Also keep in mind... we are all volunteers... because advice is not particularly "liked" does not mean it should be ridiculed... however... again... I just entered chan.
[03:14] <KM0201> tyler_d: i have tried to help hi8m, and he will not listen
[03:14] <tyler_d> I'll be right to bed honey, someones wrong on the internet.
[03:14] <Cyberspaceloa> okay, well, no response from XDev
[03:14] <XDev> I AM TRYING TO DUAL BOOT, i have about 300GB windows 300GB unallocated. And a ubuntu disc.
[03:14] <XDev> WHAT DO I DO to dual boot
[03:14] <KM0201> eveyrone else, is telling him to download gparted cd's, etc.. hwihc makes no sense.. his issue is not to partitioning... he has already partitioned his drive, he needs to manually set up the free space he has made.
[03:15] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: He needs to be walked through it
[03:15] <Cyberspaceloa> obviously
[03:15] <missy_> hello every one can anyone here help me secure my reinstall
[03:15] <milamber> !details | xdev
[03:15] <missy_> please
[03:15] <tyler_d> XDev: what step are you on right at this moment? repost the guide you were following please
[03:15] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: i have tried... again.. he just won't listen
[03:15] <tyler_d> XDev: as well what step you are on please.
[03:15] <KM0201> the "guide" he is following, was written for 9.10
[03:15] <XDev> the problem i had when i tried it myself and via tuts online was windows would boot up only and i had no option for ubuntu
[03:15] <Ben64> XDev: does windows boot right now?
[03:16] <Cyberspaceloa> tyler_d: the tutorial he was following is outdated
[03:16] <tyler_d> ok. has anyone found one for him that is not outdated
[03:16] <Cyberspaceloa> tyler_d: it also doesn't talk about manually setting up the partitions
[03:16] <milamber> XDev: as i have told you, we need it in this format: we really need a question in the format of: i am trying to <overall goal>. i am following <whatever tutorial>. i just got to the part where it said to do <something>, but <this happened instead>
[03:16] <L3top> XDev, you should boot the live installer and choose the default side by side install... it will create the appropriate partitions in the unpartitioned space, which you can resize if you wish. It should not be at all confusing once the partitioner loads from the installer. you do not have to specify anything unless you want change.
[03:16] <Cyberspaceloa> tyler_d: no one has even offered to do that, would you happen to have one in your hip pocket?
[03:16] <tyler_d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[03:16] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: thank you! someone finally gets it (although I suspect L3top would have eventually if he could see through all this nonsense)
[03:16] <XDev> SIDE by side. Is this safe?
[03:17] <XDev> I never tried that option
[03:17] <KM0201> XDev: will not work in your scenario
[03:17] <milamber> L3top, tyler_d: he already tried following a tutorial that he didn't complete
[03:17] <recursive_> L3top:  I think there's some contention that the side-by-side may not do that, and is for shrinking windows partitions
[03:17] <KM0201> not for what you want to do anyway
[03:17] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: do you have a full windows install disk available to you?
[03:17] <KM0201> recursive_: it won't... it's not "some contention" it won't
[03:17] <milamber> which included resizing the windows partition already
[03:17] <L3top> Yes XDev. It will offer you a slider you can use to change partition sizes, though I expect it will simply use the free half. It should be self evident before you apply any changes... and yes it is safe.
[03:18] <XDev> yea with a full crack since my oem went up in the air.
[03:18] <recursive_> KM0201:  I know there used to be a "Use largest continuous free space" option in earlier releases.
[03:18] <milamber> XDev: you have to be specific with what you are doing or else no one will be able to help you
[03:18] <recursive_> KM0201:  Has this been rolled into the side-by-side option, or removed entirely?
[03:18] <tyler_d> L3top: agree with the last statment XDev
[03:18] <Cyberspaceloa> recursive_: these graphical tools are always changing
[03:18] <KM0201> recursive_: yes, thats correct, but again... you're not looking at this problem he hsa created.... 1. he has already created the free space ...
[03:18] <XDev> milamber i have said multiple times
[03:18] <missy_> hi can anyone help me secure my new reinstall of ubunti 12.04 i am unsure of how to do it
[03:18] <KM0201> if he tries tha toption you mentioned.. it will work, but it will split the other partition in half
[03:18] <XDev> I am sure even a dog would know what my problem is and what i am trying to do
[03:19] <KM0201> missy_: secure it?
[03:19] <blackshirt> missy_: stay up to date with the security issue
[03:19] <recursive_> KM0201: I am aware of that.  The largest continuous free space option leveraged unpartitioned free space.  It was for exactly this situation.
[03:19] <tyler_d> KM0201: harden it
[03:19] <Domincii> Could someone take a look at this for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253148/ I've no idea what it means.
[03:19] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I recommend you follow tyler_d's tutorial
[03:19] <Cyberspaceloa> whoops
[03:19] <KM0201> lol
[03:19] <Cyberspaceloa> sigh, I'm so out of it today
[03:20] <tyler_d> hey now, not my tutorial Cyberspaceloa
[03:20] <tyler_d> :p
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: I recommend you follow tyler_d's linked tutorial
[03:20] <missy_> well i had to reinstall because my ex created 3 guest accounts and i did a reinstall as some one n here told me to do he checked everything and he said reinstall and come back on here and ask fo rhelp making it as secure as possible closing ports and whatnot
[03:20] <XDev> link?
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: from the beginning
[03:20] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: wasn't that tutorial based on 9.10 though?
[03:20] <L3top> recursive_: I have not used the side by side option from the partitioner with an empty space, but I have written in the partitioner and know how it operates... He must pay attention to the before and after graph given, and MAY have to use the "custom" option... in which case we can walk him through it. IF it tries to split the already partitioned install that could be confusing, thanks for bringing it up.
[03:20] <tyler_d> Domincii: what is that in relation to? where is that from? what were you doing and what were  you running?
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[03:20] <Domincii> I was running WoW from terminal via Wine
[03:20] <KM0201> that one will wokr.. follow the "manual" section
[03:21] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: if you can fully reinstall windows, I wouldn't worry about mucking around with the partitions
[03:21] <KM0201> fully reinstall windows?
[03:21] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: just install everything from the very beginning using these steps, otherwise you're going to frustrate yourself
[03:21] <KM0201> geez, that's like buying a new car because you don't want to sit for 30min and get an oil change
[03:21] <tyler_d> Domincii: I'm not familiar with WoW... nor Wine for troubleshooting it anyways. did it crash?
[03:21] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: It's advice that will work for him
[03:21] <XDev> cyberspaceloa alright
[03:22] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: if you want to save yourself some time
[03:22] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: it will delete the other partition, but the thing is... it's totally unecessary
[03:22]  * tyler_d just bought a new car b/c I ran out of gas
[03:22] <Domincii> It doesnt crash per se, it runs well enough, but it freezes fairly often, making it essentially unplayable
[03:22] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: You can follow KM0201's advice
[03:22] <milamber> missy_: linux in general is secure. if you want to manually check what ports are open you can use the utility nmap (you will have to install it: sudo apt-get install nmap)
[03:22] <L3top> XDev: in general... it is expecting that you have X amount of space on a drive, already partitioned for another install, and in the future, you do not need to create a free space... however the "custom" option, should it try and split the half which contains windows instead of dumping to the unallocated, is not that scary to use... and we can help.
[03:22] <Ben64> Domincii: you might want to try #winehq
[03:22] <XDev> I am not 100% exactly what km0201s advice was.
[03:22] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev: however, you're going to need to stop being frustrated and be willing to learn some things that are complicated now but will be simple after you're done
[03:22] <Domincii> I have done, it's a ghost town :(
[03:23] <KM0201> thank you jesus!  someone who understands the installer... 3 cheers for L3top
[03:23] <tyler_d> Domincii: lovely. where was that output from? were you running this from term?
[03:23] <Domincii> Yeah
[03:23] <tyler_d> Domincii: what video card are you running? do you have proprietary drivers? dual monitors?
[03:23] <missy_> ok. i know it generally is but this guy had me locked out and had several hidden accounts in less than a week the guy on here that helped me was shocked he just said to tell who ever could help me that it is really necessary lol thank you for helping me
[03:24] <f00lhardy> I'm attempting to restart samba using sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart but I get sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[03:24] <Domincii> single monitor, a Radeon 7970 3gb OC, and proprietary drivers?
[03:24] <Domincii> If you mean the video drivers then yes I've already installed those
[03:24] <tyler_d> Domincii: hate doing the google-foo thing, but have you followed the forum? fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x180ed28,0x00000000), stub!
[03:24] <tyler_d> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1541183
[03:24] <tyler_d> sorry
[03:25] <blackshirt> f00lhardy: what ubuntu version are you using now ?
[03:25] <Domincii> I'll take a look and get back to you, thanks for the help thus far
[03:25] <tyler_d> Domincii: :s no worries
[03:25] <milamber> missy_: did you reinstall linux? and you changed both your windows usernames/passwords and created different user names/passwords for linux when you completely reinstalled?
[03:25] <missy_> milamber: ok so what do i do next i have it installed
[03:26] <milamber> missy_: nmap localhost
[03:26] <missy_> milamber yes i did and i dont have windows
[03:26] <tyler_d> f00lhardy: why are you restarting samba? blackshirt
[03:26] <milamber> missy_: then you can either google the port numbers open or pastebin the numbers only
[03:26] <missy_> milamber: yes i did and i dont have windows
[03:27] <milamber> f00lhardy: i am pretty sure it is smbd ?
[03:27] <Cyberspaceloa> Oh well, that's my try for today
[03:27] <missy_> milamber: how do i google my open ports?
[03:27] <Cyberspaceloa> at least he has a tutorial he can follow from the beginning
[03:27] <KM0201> lol
[03:27] <tyler_d> missy_: netstat -antp | less -S
[03:27] <milamber> missy_: the output of nmap should give you a list of scanned ports
[03:27] <blackshirt> tyler_d: why do you refer me ?
[03:28] <tyler_d> blackshirt: wanted to ensure  you saw the question posed to f00lhardy
[03:28] <missy_> ok now i have the ports how do i know which ones i need open
[03:29] <milamber> you can literally google "port number <whatever the number is>"
[03:29] <blackshirt> tyler_d: I think maybe better you told him directly
[03:29] <milamber> missy_: or you can post a list of the open ports to pastebin and hopefully the channel can tell you what they are
[03:29] <tyler_d> blackshirt: I did address him. you were simply tagged for clarity. ;)
[03:29] <missy_> ok thank you
[03:29] <KM0201> really you should only need to open ports, if you're wanting to run some services... (FTP, etc..)
[03:29] <fenix> algen que hable español
[03:30] <KM0201> !es
[03:30] <Cyberspaceloa> missy_: fyi open ports are only a security hazard if you have services listening on them
[03:30] <fenix> thankyou
[03:30] <missy_> i have 4
[03:30] <missy_> listening
[03:30] <milamber> missy_: which 4
[03:30] <blackshirt> tyler_d: thanks for the attentions
[03:31] <tyler_d> blackshirt: no worries. just trying to help without confusing
[03:31] <recursive_> well i guess that's over.
[03:31] <[x]> how to create new administator account ?
[03:31] <milamber> [x]: the one you created is the administrator account
[03:32] <missy_> 2255/gvfsd-http local address ::1:631 for address :::* listen
[03:32] <milamber> [x]: are you asking how to create another?
[03:32] <brandon_> hey i have a qestion is it possible
[03:32] <tyler_d> [x]: from a gui or terminal?
[03:32] <Cyberspaceloa> time for me to trilly. tonight's channel shennanigans was... an experience. have a nice night/day/what-have-you
[03:32] <_Tristan> how can I delete the cached .deb for gnome-shell without uninstalling it?
[03:32] <[x]> yeah milamber
[03:32] <milamber> !ask | brandon_
[03:32] <_Tristan> or at least reinstall it without using the cache?
[03:32] <phong_> can someone show me how to download youtube video?
[03:32] <phong_> really need help
[03:32] <phong_> i'm ubuntu noob
[03:32] <[x]> terminal tyler_d
[03:32] <[x]> what is root account in between ?
[03:33] <brandon_> is it possible to change my netbook res over 1024x600
[03:33] <tyler_d> [x]: useradd or adduser  --- man both
[03:33] <recursive_> phong_ there are a couple methods.  (1) A firefox extension can do it for you.  VideoDownloadHelper is one such tool.
[03:33] <xangua> phong_: you know, there are serveral addons for firefox, opera, chrome that do it
[03:33] <tyler_d> Domincii: sure what type of video card do you have
[03:33] <missy_> tcp program 0  address  127.0.0.1:53 for address 0.0.0.0:*
[03:33] <[x]> useradd ? it doesnt seems to be admin account its appear to be a guest account ?
[03:33] <Domincii> radeon 7970 3gb OC
[03:34] <tyler_d> missy_: that's dns. you need that
[03:34] <phong_> xangua, yeah, but how
[03:34] <missy_> can anyone tell me how to paste lol this is hard to retype in i forgot how you do it
[03:34] <phong_> xangua, mind can walk me thru?
[03:34] <phong_> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 i think
[03:34] <milamber> !pastebin | missy_
[03:34] <tyler_d> missy_: ctrl-shift-c
[03:34] <phong_> and firefox
[03:35] <tyler_d> [x]: you will have to add it to the admin group; usermod +G <<name>> I believe.... anyone verify please
[03:35] <phong_> anyone?
[03:35] <missy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253177/
[03:35] <tyler_d> phong_: what are you trying to do? be specific please
[03:35] <missy_> i dont think anyone is in yet i just need to secure before he gets in
[03:35] <milamber> phong_: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[03:35] <phong_> tyler_d, download youtube video
[03:36] <trism> [x]: would use: sudo adduser username sudo; if this is 12.04 (and adduser in general so you don't delete all your groups accidently)
[03:36] <phong_> milamber, i did that
[03:36] <tyler_d> I love that my touchpad overheats and doesn't allow me to use it....
[03:36] <missy_> tyler d: i just did reinstall about 30min ago
[03:36] <milamber> phong_: so then what is the question?
[03:36] <tyler_d> phong_: no one here can help you with that
[03:36] <milamber> !details | phong_
[03:36] <[x]> ok tyler_d  thanks
[03:36] <[x]> ok trism !
[03:36] <tyler_d> [x]: np
[03:37] <Domincii> tyler_d: I'm using a Radeon 7970 3gb oc graphics card
[03:37] <tyler_d> ty trism
[03:37] <CyclicFlux> Hello all!!!! I had a question that I was having some trouble finding an answer too.  I typically use the gnome-3 desktop, but have began to play around with the Unity to check it out and its customizations/APIs.  One thing I cannot stand at all is the multi-workspace application spread Unity does(i.e. I'll do <shift>+<tab>, and then from there switch to one of my terminals, and it will take me to another workspace w/it on it(when I definitely didn't mo
[03:37] <CyclicFlux> ve it there- I'll ocassionally move something, but just temporarily and then move it back).  The problem w/this lies in say when I switch to the terminal window, and its half off the  be half off the top workspace, and I can't access the tool bar to move it.  And getting it back on is a nightmare, lol!!  I was not sure if there was a tweak/config-element that I could do to stop this from happening.  I know there is an extension for gnome-3 shell.  I was
[03:37] <CyclicFlux> n't sure if there was a lens or something for Unity
[03:37] <FloodBot1> CyclicFlux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <CyclicFlux> My apologies to all for the flood, it was suppose to be in two messages.
[03:38] <tyler_d> CyclicFlux: simply use Alt and click to move the window
[03:38] <tyler_d> CyclicFlux: you can press alt and click anywhere in any window to move it about.
[03:39] <missy_> tyler_d: ok i sent the link and i dont know which ones need to be open but i only want what needs to be and the next thing on the list that i was told to ask you guys about what how to secure the ssh?
[03:39] <tyler_d> Domincii: I honestly know very very little about ATI cards. I'm sorry, I don't even know if they use the proprietary drivers :s
[03:39] <CyclicFlux> tyler_d, Niiiiiiice!!!!  I was using alt+spacebar and although it said move wouldn't let me. Thanks so much, it seemed like such a silly problem to have, lol!!
[03:40] <[x]> usermod: no flags given
[03:40] <[x]>  what this mean ?
[03:40] <Domincii> tyler_d: no problems, you've been awesome! thanks for your time! :)
[03:40] <tyler_d> missy_: you are probabaly talking about binding ssh to your local ports? you possibly would benefit from reading man sshd
[03:41] <tyler_d> missy_: that is assuming you have an ssh server installed
[03:41] <tyler_d> Domincii: no worries, sorry I couldn't help more
[03:41] <missy_> tyler_d:yes thats what im supposes to ask help withh exactley lol you knew what i ment lol
[03:41] <missy_> i have not installed anything but updates
[03:42] <ahmedipa> hi
[03:42] <tyler_d> missy_: very good, then you will not have to worry about it. the ssh port (22) will only be open and listening if you have installed openssh-server
[03:42] <missy_> Tyler_d: and i am sup to get rid of remmina? apparently its dafault and he said to tell you about that to
[03:42] <blackshirt> [x]: what are you trying to do ?
[03:42] <ahmedipa> this is first time to use this chat
[03:43] <ahmedipa> I am so glad to use it and talk with the people
[03:43] <[x]> blackshirt, i need one more admin account\
[03:44] <tyler_d> missy_: you may simply want to dissable remmina from starting up as a service
[03:44] <tyler_d> missy_: is that correct?
[03:44] <blackshirt> [x]: you can add a normal user, and give it a sudo access
[03:44] <ahmedipa> I use this chat to share information regarding ubuntu
[03:44] <missy_> Tyler_d:do you think any of the ports need closing i dont remeber if you told me to or not to be honest?
[03:44] <[x]> how to give access ? blackshirt
[03:45] <[x]> sudo access mean root access ?
[03:45] <blackshirt> [x]: exactly, the sudoers acces ..
[03:45] <missy_> Tyler_d: i want to completley delete that. i am typeing what i was told on the print out of convo man your patient with me thankyou
[03:45] <tyler_d> missy_:  if this is a default installation with the security updates applied, I would say you are good.
[03:45] <[x]> oh how to do it in terminal ?
[03:46] <blackshirt> [x]: user with sudo capability, that's depend on your sudoers configuration
[03:46] <[x]> i add user by "adduser"
[03:46] <blackshirt> [x]: yes, and then add it with sudo adduser someuser sudo
[03:46] <[x]> sudo what this actually mean ?
[03:46] <missy_> tyler_d: how do i delete the guest account
[03:47] <blackshirt> [x]: that's would add someuser to sudo group
[03:47] <[x]> "sudo adduser nick" ?
[03:47] <blackshirt> [x]: $sudo adduser nick sudo
[03:47] <tyler_d> missy_: start a terminal ( ctrl-alt-t) and type `sudo apt-get remove remmina`
[03:47] <missy_> tyler_d: oh and were do i get the security pack thing from
[03:47] <ahmedipa> sudo is command using in terminal but I don't know what does it mean ?
[03:47] <[x]> okk blackshirt
[03:47] <ahmedipa> any way
[03:47] <ahmedipa> I have problem if some one can help me
[03:47] <tyler_d> missy_: that is from that generic updates. if you just installed, an icon would have appeared up by the time indicating there were updates available
[03:48] <blackshirt> ahmedipa: more detail
[03:48] <tyler_d> !ask | ahmedipa
[03:48] <[x]> woow thanks blackshirt  nice
[03:48] <blackshirt> [x]: and logout to test them
[03:48] <[x]> let me check
[03:48] <blackshirt> ping__: bacok :D
[03:48] <[x]> yea gonna check
[03:48] <missy_> tyler_d: ok how do i make it so no one can see my computer
[03:49] <blackshirt> missy_: unplug it
[03:49] <tyler_d> missy_:  I'm not sure what you mean by no-one .... lol blackshirt
[03:49] <missy_> lol hahahaha omg didnt expect that ur funny
[03:49] <blackshirt> tyler_d: that's very ambigous
[03:49] <f00lhardy> I have a question, if I am installing a drive into an ubuntu machine to use as a NAS what type of file system should I use?
[03:49] <f00lhardy> nfs? ext4? ?
[03:49] <hmmwhatsthisdo> How might I check which graphics driver my 12.04 Laptop is using?
[03:49] <tyler_d> missy_: he has a certain hint of truth within that sarcasm though.
[03:50] <tyler_d> f00lhardy: who is accessing it other than yourself? being a NAS and all
[03:50] <bjrohan> I am trying to create a start-up USB. I am in ubuntu using cd-creator. I recognizes my iso and USB drive, when I click start I get:
[03:50] <bjrohan> a permission error
[03:50] <bjrohan> any thoughts
[03:51] <hmmwhatsthisdo> bjrohan: make sure the drive doesn't have any sort of write-lock on it
[03:51] <missy_> i mean like when connecting two computers and what not how do i make it so no one can see it. lol i know thats y its so funny its endearing
[03:51] <f00lhardy> just myself
[03:51] <f00lhardy> on my home network tyler_d
[03:52] <bjrohan> That makes sense hmmwhatsthisdo
[03:52] <f00lhardy> using windows machines
[03:52] <tyler_d> missy_: you cannot realistically do this... you would not have to worry about that? moreover why would you worry about that?
[03:52] <[x]> blackshirt, it doesnt appear like root account
[03:52] <tyler_d> f00lhardy: you would want to stick with something windows will recognize then. like ntfs
[03:53] <Domincii> According to a compatibility chart I require Catalyst 12-1 for full support of my graphics card, is that doable in Ubuntu
[03:53] <blackshirt> [x]: yes, that was not root account
[03:53] <f00lhardy> tyler_d thanks
[03:53] <[x]> is root account different from admin?
[03:53] <tyler_d> f00lhardy: no worries, good luck
[03:53] <[x]> ohhh
[03:53] <tyler_d> [x]: indeed it is.
[03:53] <blackshirt> [x]: usually yes :D
[03:53] <[x]> then how to add root account :|
[03:54] <[x]> create another root account ?
[03:54] <crizis> Domincii, there is catalyst 12.4 in precises repositories
[03:54] <blackshirt> [x]: that's bad
[03:54] <tyler_d> [x]: why are you creating another root account....
[03:54] <xangua> !root | [x]
[03:54] <bjrohan> All of my apps are locked to the top left of my screen, I can't get to any menus :-(
[03:54] <[x]> many irc ban root account ?
[03:54] <recursive_> bhaha
[03:54] <brandon_> nvm i found a way to do it
[03:55] <missy_> tyler_d: because i have an ex for a year now he has hacked into mycomputer made three guest accounts recentley and i was in here before and he said reinstall and have you guys help me.  he gets in takes over and controls my stuff i cant even logg in he told me to put on wireshark and log so i did i waited a few days to give it to the cops. he looked at shadow somthing all kinds of stuff and said that it needs to be completeley closed
[03:55] <missy_>  out
[03:55] <crizis> Domincii, install package 'fglrx-updates' instead of usual 'additional drivers' version. this is the 'post-release' updates package which shows up in additional drivers, but installing it with gui fails
[03:55] <missy_> oh and i am not suppossed to use root no matter what
[03:55] <Domincii> Crizis I'm trying to purge my existing drivers but sudo sg /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh is giving me the error sh: 0: can't open /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh, do you know why this might be?
[03:55] <Yellowzinha> Hi...
[03:55] <Yellowzinha> i need help
[03:55] <[x]> am using backtrack it runs fater in vmware than ubuntu ,
[03:55] <tyler_d> missy_: you should probably purchase a router from the sounds of things
[03:55] <[x]> faster*
[03:56] <missy_> i do habe a router
[03:56] <bjrohan> Crapola
[03:56] <tyler_d> missy_: and moreover on a new install in ubuntu you should be solid.
[03:56] <crizis> Domincii, just uninstall the old package and forget installing manually
[03:56] <crizis> Domincii, have you tried installing from ati's .bin installer?
[03:56] <crizis> Domincii, don't do that
[03:56] <Yellowzinha> on boot screen appears... BOOT FROM CD: _
[03:56] <missy_> when i cam eon here before and he looked at it it had only been three days im telling you he always takes over within days i dont know how he does it
[03:56] <Yellowzinha> what can i do now?
[03:56] <[x]> admin account lacks many inbuilt function such as background, visual etc
[03:57] <Yellowzinha> what I have to do?
[03:57] <Domincii> Don't do what?
[03:57] <blackshirt> [x]: what are you trying to configure ?
[03:57] <crizis> Domincii, ehm, what are you trying to purge, exactly, and why?
[03:57] <Domincii> Installing from .bin or purging?
[03:57] <Domincii> One moment
[03:57] <Yellowzinha> install Ubuntu
[03:57] <[x]> so i need another root account in my desired nick blackshirt
[03:57] <Yellowzinha> from CD
[03:57] <missy_> tyler_d: its driving me insaine yo all are my last hope
[03:57] <tyler_d> missy_: that doesn't sound very good at all
[03:57] <blackshirt> [x]: that's actually not needed
[03:58] <[x]> ohh
[03:58] <Yellowzinha> i am installing Ubuntu from Cd
[03:58] <crizis> Domincii, if you have just installed the driver from ubuntus additional drivers view, you can update to 12.4 catalyst with simple: sudo apt-get remove fglrx && sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[03:58] <blackshirt> [x]: I don't know exactly what is your problem ?
[03:58] <[x]> black let explain u
[03:58] <Domincii> Ok thank you!
[03:58] <bjrohan> ANyone have a clue why my open programs are locked to the top left of the page under my system tray and launcher and are immovable. I can not access fiel edit etc menuss
[03:58] <tyler_d> missy_: you could always enable the firewall
[03:58] <[x]> be right back
[03:58] <missy_> i know im sorry i didnt explain earlier but i cant fig out how to do private chat and  i didnt want to put my drama out there lol
[03:59] <Yellowzinha> Boot from CD:
[03:59] <sl3apy> where can i find the ubuntu development channel?
[03:59] <missy_> i downloaded one but it keeps turning off constantley
[03:59] <bjrohan> I can not adjust program window size either
[03:59] <Yellowzinha> i have to press some key?
[03:59] <tyler_d> missy_: in a terminal type `sudo ufw enable`
[03:59] <bjrohan> ubuntu-1
[03:59] <tyler_d> missy_: tada.
[03:59] <missy_> lol thats was awesome
[03:59] <Joebeezy10> my usb card reade wont let my 16GB sd card show up
[03:59] <Joebeezy10> how can i maybe fix this
[04:00] <Joebeezy10> im useing 14.04LTs 64 bit
[04:00] <Joebeezy10> 12.04**
[04:00] <blackshirt> Joebeezy10: does nautilus detects them ?
[04:01] <tyler_d> missy_: then to ensure it's running just type `sudo ufw status`
[04:01] <Yellowzinha> I'm trying to install Ubuntu instead of Momentum
[04:01] <Joebeezy10> blackshirt im not sure
[04:01] <Yellowzinha> tell me what i have to do now
[04:01] <Yellowzinha> i have the CD
[04:02] <drupin> Joebeezy10: use gparted to delete unwated partitions os usb and format all
[04:02] <Joebeezy10> ya thats what i mean
[04:02] <blackshirt> Joebeezy10: I can't help you anymore if you were not sure :d
[04:02] <Joebeezy10> it dosnt show up
[04:02] <Yellowzinha> how to boot up the cd
[04:02] <Yellowzinha> ?
[04:03] <drupin> in the gparted also Joebeezy10 ?
[04:03] <blackshirt> Yellowzinha: just enter on BOOT FROM CD: _
[04:03] <Yellowzinha> yeah
[04:03] <Joebeezy10> yea
[04:03] <Yellowzinha> and what I have to do now?
[04:03] <Joebeezy10> dosnt show in the home area or gparted
[04:03] <Joebeezy10> or unetbootn
[04:03] <drupin> Yellowzinha: make sure u backup ur data if you installing on hdd
[04:03] <XDEV> d
[04:03] <blackshirt> Yellowzinha: waiting the process
[04:03] <XDEV> im back
[04:03] <ahmedipa> I have problem if any one can help me
[04:03] <XDEV> and need help
[04:04] <Yellowzinha> just wait?
[04:04] <milamber> !anyone | ahmedipa
[04:04] <tyler_d> what's up XDEV
[04:04] <blackshirt> ahmedipa: what the problems ?
[04:04] <drupin> on top of gparted Joebeezy10 u can see sda/sdb / sdc .. check this
[04:04] <Yellowzinha> I have to press ENTER?
[04:04] <XDEV> I am on my desktop still doing the dual boot. I have just reinstalled windows 7 on half of HDD and other is unallocated
[04:05] <ahmedipa> error : unknown filesystem grub rescue
[04:05] <XDEV> I will now be running ubuntu disc to install
[04:05] <drupin> one of it will be usb Joebeezy10 .. u need to find with its size Joebeezy10
[04:05] <tyler_d> XDEV: sounds like a good plan :p
[04:05] <Joebeezy10> i know
[04:05] <Joebeezy10> only my hard drives show
[04:05] <Yellowzinha> Blackshirt? I have to press ENTER?
[04:06] <ahmedipa> I have five partition ( C: , D: , E , U , S )
[04:06] <drupin> Joebeezy10: unplug the usb replug and then from gparted menu refresh it
[04:06] <ahmedipa> C: for windows 7
[04:06] <Yellowzinha> someone help me.. please
[04:06] <blackshirt> Yellowzinha: usually yes, ... is there some ongoing process ?
[04:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone here use BURG as their bootloader?
[04:06] <tyler_d> drupin: maybe fdisk -l
[04:06] <Yellowzinha> There isn't
[04:06] <ahmedipa> and I want to install ubuntu using usb
[04:06] <Yellowzinha> only this... BOOT FROM CD: _
[04:06] <milamber> !grub2 | ahmedipa
[04:07] <XDEV> -UBUNTU is loading up
[04:07] <XDEV> from disc
[04:07] <tyler_d> XDEV: woohoo
[04:07] <drupin> Joebeezy10: yes try wht tyler_d told  [04:07] <Yellowzinha> ?
[04:07] <ahmedipa> but I have installed ubuntu in C: the same partition of windows 7
[04:07] <tyler_d> drupin: oh no, I'm staying out of that one :p
[04:07] <XDEV> Im telling you its just going to boot up windows and not give me the option to boot ubuntu after this like its done the other 4 times
[04:07] <Yellowzinha> What is the meaning of it? BOOT FROM CD:_
[04:08] <chronofusion1980> xdev  I think i know a way to help
[04:08] <milamber> XDEV: are you saying this entire time that you haven't been able to boot to ubuntu at all?
[04:08] <chronofusion1980> have you installed Easybcd  in Windows yet?
[04:08] <ahmedipa> I thank this cause the problem
[04:08] <drupin> Yellowzinha: if you boot from cd it loads the live OS from there
[04:08] <milamber> XDEV: you have to go into the bios and change the boot config to boot from usb or cdrom (however you have it)
[04:08] <phong_> hi, how to uninstall or remove downverter
[04:08] <drupin> then you can install Yellowzinha
[04:08] <phong_> in command line
[04:09] <Yellowzinha> I have to wait this message?
[04:09] <XDEV> No i was on ubuntu the whole time before it was on whole hdd though i now wiped that and installed windows left half space unallocated and NOW I AM at - loading up ubuntu disc getting ready to install
[04:09] <milamber> phong_: man apt-get
[04:09] <Yellowzinha> BOOT FROM CD?
[04:09] <XDEV> for dual boot
[04:09] <tyler_d> phong_: sudo apt-get remove <<packagename>>
[04:09] <chronofusion1980> Xved you must enable the linux bootmgr that way it can boot the Ubuntu you installed
[04:09] <drupin> no Yellowzinha
[04:09] <ahmedipa> how can I solve this  "error : unknown filesystem grub rescue" ??
[04:09] <Yellowzinha> Tell  me what i have to do
[04:09] <drupin> Yellowzinha: do you know how to get the boot menu or the bios boot order
[04:09] <milamber> ahmedipa: did you read the links that i sent you
[04:10] <Yellowzinha> i dont know
[04:10] <ahmedipa> no I hope in private
[04:10] <XDEV> chronofusion1980 good cause i will need it
[04:10] <Yellowzinha> I put the cd.. appear BOOT FROM CD
[04:10] <chronofusion1980> boot into windows,  download and install Easybcd   launch that program and select to "add boot entry"  then select the "legacy" version  or " grub 2 " if you were able to get the "gRand" updates ( which are around 4 or 5 of them
[04:10] <Yellowzinha> And I dont know more
[04:10] <XDEV> ok i am at the boot screen for
[04:10] <XDEV> ubuntu
[04:10] <chronofusion1980> now FIRST  did you manually make other partitions to install ubuntu into?
[04:10] <XDEV> to install
[04:10] <drupin> ok Yellowzinha hit enter to boot from cd
[04:11] <drupin> is your hard disk empty Yellowzinha
[04:11] <chronofusion1980> or did you just install ubuntu " along side windows"  in the installation tutorial when booting from that ubuntu live cd?
[04:11] <ahmedipa> if you do not mind because I can't read a lot of words hhhhhhh
[04:11] <milamber> ahmedipa: there are several reasons, but private messages are frowned upon. 1 public forums can better solve problems and make sure no one is giving you really bad advice
[04:11] <Yellowzinha> i did it
[04:11] <XDEV> What i did when i installed windows was only install windows on half of my HDD 300GB ,  now another 300GB is unallocated
[04:11] <XDEV> THAT is where i am at now
[04:11] <ahmedipa> aha
[04:11] <XDEV> on this
[04:11] <ahmedipa> I will try to follow your name
[04:11] <drupin> ok what says now Yellowzinha
[04:12] <drupin> boot from cd Yellowzinha
[04:12] <Yellowzinha> i just wanna know.. what I have to do when appears ...BOOT FROM CD:_
[04:12] <ahmedipa> milamber : how can I solve this problem
[04:12] <drupin> hit enter
[04:12] <chronofusion1980> I'm sorry im slightly confused,  which operating system was installed on your pc first...Windows or Ubuntu? xVed
[04:12] <Yellowzinha> hit enter?
[04:12] <chronofusion1980> xdev..sorry
[04:12] <drupin> Yellowzinha: wnter
[04:12] <milamber> ahmedipa: use a live cd, download and install boot-repair
[04:12] <XDEV> yes?
[04:12] <drupin> Yellowzinha: enter
[04:12] <Yellowzinha> nothing appears
[04:13] <ahmedipa> what do you mean by live cd
[04:13] <XDEV> windows was installed firswt
[04:13] <XDEV> first
[04:13] <XDEV> about 5 seconds ago
[04:13] <chronofusion1980> good ...that's exactly my situation..ok
[04:13] <ahmedipa> do you mean windows 7
[04:13] <XDEV> windows 7
[04:13] <XDEV> correct
[04:13] <phong_> how come my downverter wont start up?
[04:13] <Domincii> YOU ARE TEARING ME APART WINE
[04:13] <Yellowzinha> just press enter and wait?
[04:13] <milamber> XDEV: do you make it through the install, but the windows bootloader is not finding the ubuntu partition?
[04:13] <drupin> how you got the image and how u made into cd? Yellowzinha
[04:13] <Yellowzinha> from site
[04:13] <Yellowzinha> download
[04:13] <Domincii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253216/
[04:13] <ahmedipa> I hope if anyone talk to me to type my name
[04:13] <XDEV> No before i would make it through install and when it said to restart i would restart and nothign came up it would just boot into windows like normal
[04:14] <XDEV> as if ubuntu was never there or installed
[04:14] <drupin> Yellowzinha: which site be more specefic.. always....
[04:14] <milamber> !livecd | ahmedipa
[04:14] <phong_> why i install downverter and start it..it won't run
[04:14] <Yellowzinha> baixaki.com
[04:14] <Yellowzinha> it is from Brazil
[04:14] <chronofusion1980> if you haven't already...boot into window 7...download and install " easybcd"...launch it, select  " add boot entry"  select the " linux bsd"  tab...start with the " legacy" version first...make sure you click SAVE at bottom right of that window.  then restart your pc ONLY after making sure you still have a count down timer on which O.S. you can select to start upon start up
[04:15] <ahmedipa> ubottu : I do not have any cd just ( USB )
[04:15] <Yellowzinha> i recorede the .ISO image
[04:15] <drupin> not sure get the official iso Yellowzinha you can always change language while install
[04:15] <ahmedipa> ubottu : thank you for your try
[04:15] <XDEV> ok so inorder to dual boot
[04:15] <XDEV> i click on "something else"
[04:15] <XDEV> and create a partition in ubuntu install thing
[04:15] <XDEV> ?
[04:15] <Thyem> I am trying to install Xubuntu on my desktop from a USB stick. But when I try to start the installer or select "Try Xubuntu" all I get is this: http://hoel.us/photo.JPG , any ideas on what might be wrong?
[04:15] <Yellowzinha> first I wanna install
[04:15] <XDEV> and install to that
[04:15] <Yellowzinha> :(
[04:16] <Yellowzinha> but I dont know
[04:16] <drupin> Yellowzinha: you have usb stick?
[04:16] <milamber> !partition | XDEV
[04:16] <Yellowzinha> yeah but it is full
[04:16] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Before you do that, please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt so that we can see your current state.
[04:16] <milamber> XDEV: i really think it would be worth your time at this point to give that a read
[04:16] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | XDEV
[04:16] <chronofusion1980> normally YES... that way your windows master boot record won't be overwritten and you won't have to go through a possible   windows  cmd repair crap of fixing windows mbr
[04:16] <drupin> you need to back it up and use it Yellowzinha
[04:17] <XDEV> I AM ON THE ubuntu install disc atm
[04:17] <Yellowzinha> why i cant use the cd?
[04:17] <chronofusion1980> ok so you haven't installed ubuntu yet? xved
[04:17] <XDEV> to my understanding cant i create a partition within ubuntu disc from unallocated disc space from before? and use that
[04:17] <chronofusion1980> xdev..jesus.. sorry.im trigger happy on mispelling
[04:17] <drupin> may be its broken and not official thats why Yellowzinha
[04:18] <Yellowzinha> :(
[04:18] <Yellowzinha> ok
[04:18] <Yellowzinha> i will try again
[04:18] <ahmedipa> I fell that I lose the focus
[04:18] <XDEV> XDEV chrono its hard to see replies
[04:18] <chronofusion1980> yes. normally..now i have also encountered a " could not install grub please choose another device" error when i did it that way..but that was ONLY after i installed around 10 different versions back to back to back..on same ssd's partition for the linux distro..
[04:18] <Yellowzinha> thanks
[04:18] <ahmedipa> in public chat
[04:18] <drupin> always get the os official you dont have to pay any how... Yellowzinha
[04:18] <chronofusion1980> ok private message you then
[04:19] <Jordan_U> XDEV: I doubt that will help in any way. Please follow my directions.
[04:19] <Yellowzinha> can u tell me the site?
[04:19] <Yellowzinha> official
[04:19] <XDEV> why wouldnt what i said before work?
[04:19] <XDEV> jordan?
[04:19] <milamber> ahmedipa: you haven't responded to my question about the livecd
[04:19] <XDEV> I dont want to go back into windows
[04:19] <XDEV>  intell i install ubuntu
[04:19] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Most likely for exactly the same reason that the initial Ubuntu installation didn't work.
[04:19] <XDEV> OMg
[04:19] <XDEV> so what should i do?
[04:20] <missy_> hi i have ubuntu 12.04 i disabled my guest account per ubuntu instructions and  after the last command sudo restrt lightdm my computer had me log in  and then i couldnt do anything and so i did a hard restart and all my programs have errors and i restarted and now still have the same problems...any ideas?
[04:20] <ahmedipa> milamber : I don't have CD for windows or ubuntu
[04:20] <chronofusion1980> I apologize i was under the assumption you wanted to dual boot win 7 and ubuntu
[04:20] <Jordan_U> XDEV: That's why I'd like to see what state your system is in after a normal, automated Ubuntu installation.
[04:20] <Yellowzinha> which is the official website?
[04:20] <XDEV> jordan what do you mean after a normal automated ubuntu installation?
[04:20] <blargg> Ubuntu Software Center has a large area at the top that shows pictures of programs and cycles through. How do I turn these off, or at least disable automatic cycling?
[04:20] <ahmedipa> milamber : just I have USB
[04:20] <Yellowzinha> to download
[04:21] <XDEV> Im only installing ubuntu once i have windows on another partition and do not want to reinstall windows
[04:21] <Yellowzinha> ????
[04:21] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Using the "Install Side By Side" option rather than the "Something else" option.
[04:21] <XDEV> ok
[04:21] <XDEV> and once i do that
[04:21] <XDEV> then what
[04:21] <chronofusion1980> yeas...Jordan ..that is an easy way to do it..but you RISK  completely losing your windows mbr..I speak from experience on this
[04:21] <Manivannan> choose manual partion and install it
[04:21] <milamber> ahmedipa: here is the link to the grub2 troubleshooting guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[04:21] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Then run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[04:22] <milamber> ahmedipa: it specifically addresses your situation
[04:22] <[x]> #backtrack-linux :Cannot send to channel y this happening ?
[04:22] <Rock> y
[04:22] <chronofusion1980> that's why " something else " is the better way to go..you can manually create and edit those partition to safely install the /boot for ubuntu in another partition that way it DOESN'T touch windows mbr incase Xdev needs to access windows for any reason
[04:22] <XDEV> jordan- I how exactly do i run a boot info script?
[04:22] <tyler_d> [x]: why are you running backtrack?
[04:22] <ahmedipa> I used installed side by side ( windows and ubuntu ) in the same root I got this problem
[04:22] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Follow the directions from the link that ubottu sent you.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !backtrack
[04:22] <ahmedipa> error : unknown filesystem grub rescue
[04:23] <chronofusion1980> EXACTLY...ahmedipa..JUST proved my point
[04:23] <[x]> tyler_d, it only runs faster in vmware
[04:23] <ahmedipa> milamber : thank you so much for this link
[04:23] <XDEV> chrono if i do it that way can you explain or tell me what exactly i do when im in something else so i do it right
[04:23] <chronofusion1980> yes..absolutely
[04:23] <tyler_d> [x]: ok
[04:23] <Jordan_U> chronofusion1980: It's easy to restore a Microsoft Style MBR. Installing any OS, however you do it, involves some risk. IMHO, using the "Side by side" option of Ubuntu's installer is the least risky way to dual boot, especially for newer users.
[04:24] <[x]> rock is you able to join backtrack-linux channel ?
[04:24] <ahmedipa> milamber : I will try to understand and follow the instructions
[04:25] <XDEV> ok like right now im in something else and i dont even know what partition or SDA is windows
[04:25] <XDEV> Cause it seems all backwards.
[04:25] <XDEV> I have sda1 nfts - 104mb-35mb used  / sda2 230581
[04:25] <chronofusion1980> lol..ok Jordan..sure..go ahead..install side by side....problem is..the UBUNTU mbr completely TAKES OVER..the windows mbr..thus..if you decide for whatever reason you don't wnat to boot into ubuntu anymore and just want windows..and you delete the partition that had ubuntu..or uninstall it even through wubi...YOU LOSE the windows access also because " side by side" option OVERWRITES the windows mbr...without windows mbr..yo
[04:25] <chronofusion1980> u CAN'T boot into windows..it's that simple
[04:26] <chronofusion1980> ok Xdev...do you see anything that says " free space"
[04:26] <XDEV> yes
[04:26] <XDEV> wait no
[04:26] <XDEV> i see unknown
[04:26] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Before you do anything else please wait. I would like to figure out what your current state is.
[04:26] <[x]> /etc/init.d/tor: line 129: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[04:27] <XDEV> it has the menu size and then used.
[04:27] <xangua> Jordan_U: he's not the kind to listen the Right people :P
[04:27] <XDEV> i have sda1, sda2, sda3,
[04:27] <XDEV> ect
[04:27] <XDEV> and under 2 of those the used space says unknown
[04:28] <XDEV> wish i could provide screen shot
[04:28] <XDEV> hold on ill get my camera
[04:29] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces?
[04:29] <milamber> ahmedipa: if you come across any instructions that you are unsure about you can ask specific questions
[04:29] <chronofusion1980> this url is where i got the info i needed to SAFELY install Xubuntu 12.04 ( which is just the same as ubuntu 12.04 ) in a separate partition it explains the entire process..now again..  your choice.  I'm not nagging you Xdev.  I'm just trying to help you guarantee that INCASE you wish to need to access windows and there are any deletion mistakes you won't have to go through windows cmd repair to repair your windows mbr
[04:29] <chronofusion1980> http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[04:29] <XDEV> dude thats the exact one i did l
[04:29] <XDEV> before lol
[04:30] <milamber> XDEV: just pay attention to Jordan_U, he really knows what he is doing with grub2 and dual-booting
[04:30] <milamber> XDEV: also, be patient
[04:30] <Joebeezy10> http://pastebin.com/XYaZc9xg
[04:30] <Joebeezy10> i cant figure out why my card reader wont work
[04:30] <Joebeezy10> now usb flash dont eaither
[04:31] <XDEV> but chrono said that would mess up my windows
[04:31] <chronofusion1980> no i said.it COULD overwrite your windows master boot record..not the operating system install... that's all..but hey..like they said..what do i know
[04:32] <chronofusion1980> I only did the EXACT same thing as " install side by side along side windows" and had to go through win 7 disc cmd repair with bootrec.exe crap just to get my win mbr back...enjoy
[04:33] <chronofusion1980> but either way..you learn from experience..whether the easy way..or the hard way
[04:33] <KM0201> lol
[04:33] <Aristotle> FUCK OBAMA
[04:34] <chronofusion1980> ftr...if you still have your win 7 disc  or a recovery disc you created from it...it's " bootrec.exe /fixmbr "  AFTER " bootsect /nt60 c:\ "  then bootsect /nt60 SYS " THEN bootsect /nt60 ALL"   of course pressing enter between each of those commands
[04:34] <KM0201> lol, well, i can't say i don't agree.. but this ain't the place for it
[04:34] <chronofusion1980>   Aristotle...yeah..i dont blame you..but it's Screw Barry Soetoro
[04:34] <chronofusion1980> I call him by his real name
[04:34] <chronofusion1980> but that's another channel..no coherent here
[04:35] <Jordan_U> XDEV: The correct place for grub's boot sector is in the MBR, that is the opinion of the GRUB developers, the Ubuntu developers, the Fedora developers, and pretty much every set of experts that has actually had to make important technical decisions about this. If you would like the resons for this I can give them, but I am rather busy at the moment.
[04:35]  * wilee-nilee thinks the ignore option is the best thing since sliced bread.
[04:35] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U and Milamber : I tried to type sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[04:35] <ahmedipa> the result is
[04:35] <XDEV> So you are telling me i should just use the side by side option?
[04:35] <chronofusion1980> yeah  sure.Jordan.the problem is  " and even Nixie pixel of her youtube channel will tell you FROM experience...grub and windows mbr  DON'T play well together in the same parittion...thus the reason why i suggest " something else" and creating the partitions there
[04:35] <XDEV> and not create a new partition from unsused space in something else
[04:36] <chronofusion1980> 1st partition /boot  1 gig size Primary logical
[04:36] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Yes.
[04:36] <ahmedipa> The program 'grub' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:36] <ahmedipa> sudo apt-get install grub
[04:36] <ahmedipa> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ find/boot/grub/stage1
[04:36] <ahmedipa> bash: find/boot/grub/stage1: No such file or directory
[04:36] <XDEV> chrono
[04:36] <chronofusion1980> 2nd /  ( which is your root partition where programs are installed  )  at any size between 2 or more gigs and up
[04:37] <chronofusion1980> 3rd /home partition  ( where stuff is downloaded)
[04:37] <chronofusion1980> 4th  swap file page area  around 4 gigs is enough
[04:37] <XDEV> how would i even create new partition for ubuntu under something else the "Add button is not selectable]
[04:37] <milamber> ahmedipa: you have grub2
[04:37] <Thyem> Anyone seen this screen before : http://hoel.us/photo.JPG ?. I get it when I am trying to boot xubuntu from a USB stick or when I am trying to install from the same USB stick.
[04:37] <milamber> ahmedipa: you should be following the one for grub2
[04:38] <ahmedipa> milamber: I think I have to install it
[04:38] <chronofusion1980> no i never said " side by side " option..but like i said..you decide how you want to do this....both will get you want you want..but my way better guarantees a failsafe without going through windows cmd repair option to repair it's mbr incase anything happens
[04:38] <XDEV> or the new partition table button but it say  " you have selected an antire device to partition if you proceed with creating new partition on the device all current partitions wil lbe removed
[04:38] <milamber> Thyem: try the alternate cd
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Thyem
[04:38] <ahmedipa> milamber : so I installed it
[04:38] <chronofusion1980>   like updating your grub from legacy to grub 2 for example
[04:38] <Thyem> thanks
[04:39] <milamber> ahmedipa: grub is the earlier version of the ubuntu boot-loader
[04:39] <XDEV> chrono im talking about the somethign else option how would i go about creating ubuntu partition
[04:39] <XDEV> ?
[04:39] <XDEV> from unallocated space
[04:39] <milamber> your version of ubuntu uses grub1
[04:39] <Jordan_U> chronofusion1980: Your solution is not guaranteed safe. It avoids one possible failure point, but in its place introduces many others (which are more common, and some which are harder to recover from).
[04:39] <milamber> ahmedipa: you have to restore grub2
[04:40] <chronofusion1980> Sure jordan..whatever you say
[04:40] <XDEV> chrono
[04:40] <XDEV> ?
[04:40] <ahmedipa> milamber: how to restore it ?
[04:40] <KM0201> ..
[04:41] <chronofusion1980> tell you what..Xdev..follow jordan's instructions...I work the late evening/night shift  i'm off tonight and tomorrow so i'll be up til 4 p.m. central time and online here incase you need me....  i'm going back to ripping my movie collection using handbrake..
[04:41] <athit> I can install BigblueButton on Ubuntu 12.04 .?
[04:41] <brohan> Hey all I have a dual boot system with ubuntu on the 2nd partition and a data partition (I think that's what it is called). I have backed up my home dir, run the iso from a thumb drive, now I want to install 12.10 beta 2 over top of my current ubuntu 12.04. How do I do this?
[04:41] <XDEV> ok create im in central time also
[04:41] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Unfortunately I have no more time. If you come back tomorrow with the results from boot info script that I asked for I may be able to help you then. Good luck.
[04:41] <chronofusion1980> I'm tired Jordan's pointless bs...I speak from " learning the hard way" experience..
[04:41] <chronofusion1980> I'll be back on here in a few hours
[04:41] <XDEV> -_-
[04:42] <XDEV> jordan can you just help
[04:42] <XDEV> ?
[04:42] <XDEV> Ill try your way
[04:42] <KM0201> brohan: easiest way, is to boot the install disk, then target the partition you want to install, then just set it up manually.. i've done it a lot.
[04:42] <Ben64> why is it taking so long to install ubuntu?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> XDEV: At some point you ran the Ubuntu installer and chose the "Side by Side" option, correct?
[04:43] <KM0201> did it fail?
[04:43] <milamber> ahmedipa: after you installed it, did you try re-running the command?
[04:43] <XDEV> no it actually was Alongside windows 7
[04:43] <XDEV> thats what it says
[04:43] <brohan> KM0201 so of the options to install choose manual then it will ask me what to do specifically?
[04:43] <ahmedipa> milamber: yes
[04:43] <XDEV> there was no side by side option
[04:44] <brohan> I was afraid to select that as I thought it would go awry
[04:44] <KM0201> brohan: no, you choose manual, then you will do what you want
[04:44] <XDEV> im assuming that is it just different name
[04:44] <brohan> Thanks!
[04:44] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Ok, that's the option I'm thinking of (I just miremembered the exact wording).
[04:44] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Have you done any partitioning since then?
[04:44] <milamber> ahmedipa: then what happened
[04:44] <ahmedipa> milamber: I am in these steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:44] <XDEV> no i am on the next screen after i clicked.
[04:44] <XDEV> It says allocate drive space
[04:44] <XDEV> and shows 2 boxes one with 212.3GB and another with 197.2GB
[04:44] <ahmedipa> milamber: boot repair
[04:45] <XDEV> ok?
[04:46] <milamber> ahmedipa: so are you dowloading and installing it to a live cd?
[04:46] <ahmedipa> milamber: as I see "  Boot successfully repaired.
[04:46] <ahmedipa> Please write on a paper the following URL:
[04:46] <ahmedipa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253241/
[04:46] <ahmedipa> In case you still experience boot problem, indicate this URL to:
[04:46] <ahmedipa> boot.repair@gmail.com or to your favorite support forum.
[04:46] <ahmedipa> You can now reboot your computer.
[04:46] <ahmedipa> "
[04:46] <FloodBot1> ahmedipa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, How long is so long, and did you click the update on install, and what is your net speed?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Right now I'm asking about the last time you tried to install Ubuntu. If I understand correctly you used the "Alongside Windows 7" option, the installer completed with no errors, but when you booted again it just booted into Windows with no option for Ubuntu. Is that correct?
[04:47] <XDEV> no last time was before and i used the somethign else option
[04:47] <XDEV> I since WIPED whole harddrive of both / all operating systems and reinstalled windows and now ubuntu
[04:47] <KM0201> jesus..
[04:48] <Jordan_U> XDEV: OK, then use the "Alongside Windows 7" option and hopefully it will just work. If it doesn't, or if you have any more questions, then ping me (by sending a message in this channel containing my nick).
[04:48] <[x]> dual boot made me to reboot my system 10 times :( so i cling to virtual machines
[04:48] <milamber> ahmedipa: so you were triple booting 7,xp, and ubuntu?
[04:49] <XDEV> i dont understand why its so complicated on my laptop i dualbotted on my desktop and everything worked the first time.
[04:49] <milamber> ahmedipa: that was the boot-info, which provides good information. did you try the boot-repair?
[04:49] <ahmedipa> milamber: I think every thing ok after this message.
[04:49] <[x]> basic drive , dynamic drive , logical drives :S i come to know all these stuffs
[04:50] <KM0201> XDEV: it's not complicated
[04:50] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: I would recommend doing a normal dual boot install, rather than using Wubi.
[04:50] <milamber> ahmedipa: ok, you got grub back?
[04:50] <tty007> Hi, i have a powerpc architecture with G4 i think and cannot get gui login working. Always when i try to start X normally it hangs and i need to power off. Maybe another installion is more useful.  Is there any guide to check the lost+found folder ? Thanks
[04:50] <KM0201> the "beside windows" is not going to work.
[04:50] <XDEV> KM0201. It is if you tried 4 times
[04:50] <KM0201> if his problem is the same as it was before, he has already created the partition under Windows.
[04:50] <ahmedipa> milamber: I think I have to restart computer to know if the problem solved or not
[04:51] <ahmedipa> milamber: regarding to booting windows 7
[04:51] <milamber> ahmedipa: listen to Jordan_U
[04:51] <ahmedipa> milamber: yes I have windows 7 and ubuntu
[04:52] <XDEV> km i am already installing ubuntu via the side by side
[04:52] <XDEV> what jordan told me
[04:52] <ahmedipa> milamber: in the same root ( same drive) that is caused the problem
[04:52] <KM0201> ok
[04:52] <KM0201> so whats the problem now?
[04:53] <ahmedipa> mailmber: I will try to restart to see the result thank you so much
[04:53] <XDEV> the problem will be if it doesnt work "what you say will happen"
[04:53] <KM0201> my guess is, you're going to have about 200gigs of space not being used.
[04:53] <XDEV> ANd that I believe it took space from the Windows partition and not unallocated
[04:53] <KM0201> XDEV: BINGO... that's what i've been trying to tell you
[04:53] <XDEV> so now i have random unallocated 400GB space and only about 170GB windows
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> ahmedipa, If you get no help here make a thread at the ubuntu forums, there is a daily user there that is a knowledgeable with wubi, put wubi in the thread header
[04:54] <KM0201> XDEV: yup... thats what i wsas trying to tell you earlier
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> and have a up to date bootscript posted
[04:56] <Cyberspaceloa> 200 gigs of unused space!
[04:56] <Jordan_U> XDEV: Sorry if that is the case. It's fairly easy to expand the partition to use all the available space though.
[04:57] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: yes, because... AGAIN.. he chose the side by side option, when he needed to choose the manual option (because he partitiooned his drive under windows)
[04:57] <KM0201> Jordan_U: yeah, but that's gonna create one jacked up partition table
[04:57] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I had no idea the current dual booting option was so wasteful. I haven't dual booted in a long time
[04:57] <Jordan_U> KM0201: How so?
[04:57] <Cyberspaceloa> I use a VM for windows
[04:57] <KM0201> I'm only familiar with it because i've helped so many with it.
[04:58] <KM0201> Jordan_U: it's gonna look something like this... Windows-- 100gigs Ubuntu---100gigs unallocated--400gigs
[04:58] <KM0201> (i think he said he had 600gigs)
[04:58] <Joebeezy10> some of my hds wont mount an neither with usb flash or sd cards
[04:58] <Joebeezy10> what could be going on
[04:59] <KM0201> i only have windows on my laptop... i haven't booted it in so long, i think i forgot my password to log in
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Joebeezy10, Could you state that more clearly
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> with=will Joebeezy10
[05:00] <KM0201> Jordan_U: when in reality, what he wanted... was 250 gigs windows, 250gigs, ubuntu
[05:00] <phr3d13> i am getting this error: Maximum number of clients reached - how do i figure out what is causing it?
[05:00] <Joebeezy10> well at first i tried mounting my 16GB sd card and it wouldnt mount and now some of my hard drives dont mount eaither internal hard drives
[05:00] <Jordan_U> KM0201: Indeed.
[05:00] <Joebeezy10> and also my usb flash drives wont mount
[05:01] <KM0201> i tried to tell him that for two hours, but he was off in his own little world
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Joebeezy10, This from plugging them in or running a mount in the cli, and are any in fstab?
[05:01] <L3top> Joebeezy10: how are you trying to mount them?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> KM0201: If that is the case, can you help him get things done properly (with grub's boot sector in the MBR as it should be)? I really need to leave soon but I hate leaving someone in a bad state, especially when it's partially my fault for recommending the "Alongside" option.
[05:02] <KM0201> Jordan_U: i have tried, repeatedly
[05:02] <KM0201> he just won't listen...
[05:03] <milamber> KM0201, Jordan_U: it would seem that there is something going on with the bootloader more than the partition
[05:03] <KM0201> a while ago, dumbasses had him downloading gparted live cd's, etc.. which makes no sense.. his issue wasn't his partitioning, it was getting ubuntu onto the partitions the way he wanted
[05:03] <Jordan_U> KM0201: Well, after this at least they should have a system which boots both Windows and Ubuntu, which is some progress.
[05:03] <KM0201> Jordan_U: probably...lol
[05:03] <KM0201> milamber: possibly.. we'll see afer he finishes this
[05:03] <milamber> even if he selected the alongside option the bootloader should have picked up the two "boot-able" partitions
[05:03] <KM0201> milamber: but regardless, it's not going to be setup how he wants it, so it doesn't matter
[05:03] <[TiZ]> Hi. Is there any way to get some sort of unique identifier for a joystick given its block device (e.g. /dev/input/js0)?
[05:03] <L3top> This has been going on for quite some time Jordan_U. I had to walk away due to project issues... and the user was particularly insensed by KM0201's advice... I would understand if he wasn't very motivated to continue... but I am happy to help now that my fires are out.
[05:04] <Jordan_U> KM0201: Please don't use epithets to describe people in this channel.
[05:04] <KM0201> Jordan_U: i guess you just hadd to be here..lol
[05:05]  * wilee-nilee thinks he needs to learn like the rest of us from the school of hard knocks.
[05:05] <KM0201> L3top: if i understand correctly, he's actually installing now.. but what he's going to end up with now.,... is 100gigs windows, 100gigs ubuntu, 300gigs unallocated.
[05:05] <KM0201> in reality, he just wanted 250gigs windows, 250gigs ubuntu
[05:05] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: How long has the automated tool been wonky like this, out of curiosity
[05:06] <L3top> Seems so KM0201... which is why it was suggested he actually look at the sizing before taking that option, and probably having to do the manual partitioning option.
[05:06] <Cyberspaceloa> seems like a big problem
[05:06] <milamber> KM0201: if what he was saying earlier was true, he's installed several times, but the bootloader never finds the partition. which is why i keep asking him to specify exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it. but that doesn't seem to be happening
[05:06] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: like i said, 90% of the time, i use the alternate install cd... but i've helped so many people w/ the live cd.. honestlyh, its been that way as long as i can remember
[05:06] <Cyberspaceloa> L3top: XDEV is definitely a clickthrough-without-examining-the-details sort
[05:07] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I think the last time I dual booted was with 8.04 and XP
[05:07] <Cyberspaceloa> I don't remember having any problems like that, although I could be misremembering
[05:07] <KM0201> well, i guess he can always reinstall windows again (that was the brilliant advice he got earlier)
[05:07] <KM0201> it's all about how he's partitioning
[05:08] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: Yeah, that was my brilliant advice, except I had no idea the automated tools regularly amputated large chunks of the drive
[05:08] <lJ6il> Hi there. Sorry for my bad english in advance. I'd like to know if anyone know a tip to reduce the minimal brightness of a laptop screen (eeepc). I'm already using f.lux or redshift the night, but it's not enough, my eyes are still bleeding.
[05:09] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: yeah, i know,. :)... see, the thing is... if he hadn't partitioned the drive under Windows... he could do exactly what you said.. choose the "side by side" option, and off he'd be.. when he created hte unallocated partition under windows, thats what throws the wrench in things.
[05:09] <L3top> Cyberspaceloa: chances are you hadn't already tried to create an empty space. The option works marvelously if you have a standard windows install (whole disk), but the assumption is that this is the case. If you went ahead and adjusted the partitions, it assumes you do not need this (very time consuming) option.
[05:09] <milamber> KM0201: reinstalling windows isn't *necessarily* bad advice when dealing with inexperienced people. reinstalling windows to use the whole disk thereby returning it to initial state should have allowed him to use the side by side option w/o any of the issues that we are facing now
[05:09] <KM0201> it will not automatically go onto that unallocated partition because.... (drumroll) it's unallocated
[05:09] <KM0201> milamber: it would have, if he hadn't done the exact same thing again (partition under windows)
[05:09] <Cyberspaceloa> L3top: I see. And XDev has been randomly leaving his drive unpartitioned
[05:10] <Thyem> Why would the installer not default to the unallocated space? Seems to be the best option
[05:10] <KM0201> Thyem: because thats not what the installer does (not the generic one anyway.
[05:10] <Cyberspaceloa> Thyem: that's the question of the day, apparently
[05:10] <KM0201> Thyem: it never has
[05:10] <L3top> Well... it has a partition... he used the Disk Management or partition magic or something to shrink his windows install, and then as it cannot create ext(etc) partitions... left it unallocated
[05:10] <Cyberspaceloa> XDev's problem is that he's not going to listen to anyone long enough to get the hang of simple manual partitioning
[05:11] <Cyberspaceloa> we need a single help page devoted entirely to manual partitioning
[05:11] <Thyem> Not really up to speed on how toe installer does the partition stuff, but what does it do instead? Split the partition that is already there?
[05:11] <Thyem> the*
[05:11] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: no.. he's had numerous people offering to help him do this (the right way)... and instead he wanted to download a gparted cd and reinstall windows...lol (neither of which really does anything in this situation)
[05:11] <KM0201> Thyem: affirmative
[05:11] <L3top> yes Thyem
[05:12] <milamber> !partitioning | Cyberspaceloa
[05:12] <milamber> Cyberspaceloa: the trick is getting people to read. top to bottom, left to right, tylenol for any headaches . . .
[05:12] <yekoms> !package miracl
[05:12] <KM0201> unallocated... it's essentially "not there" to the installer.... so it finds the ntfs partition, knows its "there" and splits it.
[05:13] <Thyem> Thats awesome if there is no unallocated space, not so awesome if there is. But isnt the partition tool fairly visual if you skip the auto stuff?
[05:13] <Cyberspaceloa> milamber: yes. I can see why some of the people in here are so snippy sometimes
[05:13] <KM0201> Thyem: exactly... and when he's partitioning and making unallocated space under windows... he is where he is.
[05:13] <L3top> The option exists, pretty much, to resize windows/other add default linux partitions and do grub stuffs...
[05:13] <KM0201> i tried explaining this repeatedly earlier, but people kept telling me "he just needed to install side by side"
[05:13] <L3top> Thyem: if you just looked at the displayed size, it would be self-evident.
[05:13] <phr3d13> i am getting this error: Maximum number of clients reached - how do i figure out what is causing it? anyone?
[05:13] <Thyem> Guess he will be back later asking more questions and ignoring adive then ;)
[05:14] <KM0201> lol
[05:14] <Thyem> advice*
[05:14] <Cyberspaceloa> earlier was a cluster-eff, KM0201
[05:14] <Cyberspaceloa> I couldn't follow it at all
[05:14] <KM0201> lol
[05:14] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: the worst thing about a channel like this, when someone has a problem that several people are trying to solve... you have a person who rather than following 1 persons advice, they are trying to follow the advice of 5-6 people, who probably all have a different way of solving the problem, and the solutions may well be counteracting with each other
[05:15] <KM0201> your best bet, is win lose or draw, listen to one person....
[05:15] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: that's how I usually do it
[05:15] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: yep, then if they are wrong, at least you know who to get mad out..lol
[05:15] <Sidney__> Unity will not install on my system is there some kind of work around
[05:15] <Cyberspaceloa> also, fully reinstalling everything would have worked if he had just refrained from manually partitioning windows
[05:16] <KM0201> Sidney__: you should consider yourself blessed.
[05:16] <KM0201> lol
[05:16] <Cyberspaceloa> and then auto partitioning ubuntu...
[05:16] <L3top> Sidney__: Will need more information.
[05:16] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: absolutely.
[05:16] <KM0201> but the problem is, he seemed hung up on partitioning under Windows (for some reason.. he kept saying "that's what he done last time".. so i guess thats why)
[05:16] <milamber> phr3d13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1410022
[05:16] <KM0201> so i knew when he reinstalled winddows
[05:16] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: they say a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing
[05:17] <KM0201> he was going to immediately just do the same thing over agian
[05:17] <milamber> KM0201: the frustrating part for me is when you ask for the details and people just keep repeating the goal
[05:17] <Cyberspaceloa> milamber: yes, that's exactly what he was doing
[05:17] <Cyberspaceloa> well, I need to code for a bit, but I'll try and lurk
[05:17] <Cyberspaceloa> maybe we can coax him to listen to KM0201
[05:17] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: the thing is, now he's going to have 100gigs 7, 100gigs ubuntu, and 300gigs unallocated (roughly)
[05:17] <KM0201> oh no you don't
[05:18] <KM0201> i tried.. repeatedly
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Sidney__, Can you give some background, what is the release, and what desktop is there now and how are you trying to install unity?
[05:18] <Cyberspaceloa> got to, AND it's jsp.
[05:18] <KM0201> i was called names, people calling ops on me, etc..lol
[05:18] <Cyberspaceloa> someone put me out of my misery
[05:18] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: yeah, that's why I try not to dogpile
[05:18] <KM0201> lol
[05:19] <Cyberspaceloa> it's easy to misread a situation in a fast scrollback
[05:19]  * milamber ditto
[05:19] <KM0201> i've got pretty thick skin, i don't take much to seriously out here in internet land
[05:19] <phr3d13> i don't use chrome, or any of those plugins
[05:19] <milamber> i'll ask the questions and if they don't answer i'll just move on
[05:19] <Sidney__> L3top invalid or coreupt kernel image
[05:19] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: same here.
[05:20] <L3top> Sidney__: have you checked the md5sum of the image?
[05:20] <Cyberspaceloa> alright guys, off to jsp he-- uh, heck
[05:20] <mnewton> Is it possible to disown a process that makes children? and disown its children as well?
[05:20] <milamber> bug 921995
[05:20] <mnewton> For example, I have a bash script that plays a file and i send this task to the background. Next I have a for loop that does stuff, while the file is playing.  then I have some last commands and the script ends. Can I disown all processes made by the script. That is run the script and then disown it so when the terminal is closed the program keeps running
[05:21] <Cyberspaceloa> you should probably ask in #bash, mnewton
[05:21] <milamber> phr3d13: ^ are you using unity?
[05:21] <phr3d13> milamber, yes
[05:21] <milamber> phr3d13: does that bug match your symptoms?
[05:21] <mnewton> Cyberspaceloa, yes - but they are not responding
[05:22] <phr3d13> that happened once, but for the most part not really
[05:22] <Sidney__> L3top, the system has an Athlon 2.9 Ghz, 2 GB memory
[05:22] <milamber> mnewton: can you define disown?
[05:23] <cjae> is there a way to completely get gnome 3 or is it a unity hybrid?
[05:23] <milamber> mnewton: if you just want to be able to run it and close the terminal, you can do: <command> &
[05:23] <L3top> !md5sum | Sidney__
[05:24] <Sidney__> L3top,  I have tried many downloads on different drives even Ubuntu and pinguy os
[05:24] <lobhater> i installed some desktop tweak tool that added my home folder and the network servers folder. i have since removed the tool but now can not delete the home or network server folder or trash icon.  what do i do to get rid of them?
[05:25] <KM0201> i'm gonna watch "The Truman Show"... so.. "In case I don't see ya... Good afternoon, Good Evening and Good night"
[05:26] <Sidney__> sojvhj12345
[05:26] <witakr> HEyo!
[05:27] <XiaolinDraconis> how does user defined session work? seems it magically did what i have been wanting
[05:29] <themindbenders> how to download videos excepting youtube in ubuntu?
[05:30] <milamber> themindbenders: what do you mean?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> themindbenders: firefox has multiple download addons
[05:30] <milamber> !info youtube-dl | themindbenders
[05:30] <themindbenders> i want to download some videos from securitytube.com
[05:30] <lobhater> any one know how to delete the home folder from your desktop?
[05:31] <cjae> what is that a banned question?
[05:32] <cjae> dont help ppl with non unity stuff
[05:32] <lobhater> what is a banned question?
[05:33] <Hatori> hello
[05:33] <milamber> !gnome3 | cjae
[05:33] <themindbenders> anyone can tell me how to download videos from all websites with a single piece of code/app
[05:33] <themindbenders> ?
[05:34] <themindbenders> piyush:
[05:34] <milamber> themindbenders: there isn't a universal downloader for ubuntu, sorry. you can try the google-fu with "ubuntu download from <wherever>"
[05:34] <themindbenders> are u there piyush?
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> lobhater, Just install gnome-tweak-tool again and turn off home on the desktop.
[05:36] <brohan> I have a dual boot machine, I just cleaned up my windows 7 and shrunk it by 28 gig via windows disk utililty. I now have 28 gig unallocated. What is the best way to add it to by Ubunutu partition.
[05:36] <lobhater> wilee: i cant remember which one it was
[05:36] <Bilz> hi. i opened a program (gcse nes emulator) and it crashed on me and for some reason filled my hard drive
[05:37] <Bilz> how can i find where it filled my hard drive and delete it?
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> brohan, You can resize the ubuntu partition to use that space with gparted on a live cd, or a gparted cd.
[05:37] <Hatori> brohan, use gparted from your windows
[05:37] <Hatori> brohan, use gparted from your ubuntu
[05:38] <Hatori> Sorry for my stupid
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> Hatori, Has to be a livecd
[05:38] <brohan> wilee-nilee Thanks. The ubuntu partition has ubuntu on it, will it remain operable? My ultimate goal is to do an install of 12.10 beta 2 on the partition that now has 12.04 on it which I will be resizing
[05:38] <Hatori> wilee-nilee, was ubuntu has installed?
[05:38] <brohan> wilee-nilee I have done a back-up of my home directory
[05:39] <dandaman> what is with nautilus file transfers?
[05:39] <dandaman> im trying to move a big file from my hard drive to a usb flash drive
[05:39] <dandaman> it starts out really strong for the first 500 mb
[05:39] <lobhater> !quit
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> brohan, Where is home backed up to, you might just post a screen shot of gparted in a imagebin to expedite this.
[05:40] <dandaman> then for the remainder it cuts down to be really slow, like 1/4 of the speed
[05:40] <Ben64> dandaman: the speed it shows is not very accurate
[05:41] <dandaman> Ben64: nevertheless, it gets through 500mb very quickly, then it slows down considerably
[05:42] <Ben64> dandaman: that's what I'm saying... it doesn't
[05:42] <dandaman> but when i cancel in the middle of the transfer it says the file is the size that i cancelled it at :(
[05:44] <Bilz> how can i find where it filled my hard drive and delete it?
[05:45] <Bilz> nevermind, will ask later
[05:46] <Hatori> bilz, what files are trying to find ?
[05:50] <themindbenders> bluetooth driver for lenovo y500?
[05:54] <themindbenders> how do i connect my bluetooth adaptor to my lenovo y500 laptop i'm using backtrack 5 R3?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|themindbenders:
[05:55] <themindbenders> please tell me the correct pacakge of driver or my bluetooth
[05:56] <cfhowlett> themindbenders: backtrack is not supported here.  sorry.
[05:56] <themindbenders> cfhowlett:why ?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|themindbenders:
[05:57] <themindbenders> after all it's a ubuntu based
[05:57] <cfhowlett> themindbenders: see the link.  Support is provided there.
[05:58] <unkn0wnRaja> hello
[05:58] <themindbenders> where is the  link?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|themindbenders:
[05:59] <cfhowlett> themindbenders >>> There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[05:59] <themindbenders> ya where is the link tell me
[05:59] <unkn0wnRaja> man
[06:01] <themindbenders> ok sir
[06:01] <unkn0wnRaja> names
[06:06] <lu_> openwrt
[06:11] <Curious_Cube> Hey!
[06:11] <Curious_Cube> I'm new here!
[06:12] <cfhowlett> curi
[06:12] <Curious_Cube> Welcome !
[06:12] <WACOMalt> Hi folks. I am wondering if anyone has experience running cinnamon UI in here? I just installed it and love it, but I can figure out themes
[06:12] <Curious_Cube> What the hell I'm seeing?
[06:12] <WACOMalt> *cant
[06:12] <cfhowlett> Curious_Cube: this is the ubuntu support channel.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu|Curious_Cube:
[06:13] <tot2> ciao
[06:13] <tot2> !list
[06:13] <Curious_Cube> I'm talking to a human?
[06:13] <WACOMalt> ubottu is not human
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Curious_Cube: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[06:14] <Curious_Cube> I want to know about security in Ubuntu.
[06:14] <Curious_Cube> Using this IRC channel Am I sure of my security?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Curious_Cube: no more so than any other public channel.
[06:15] <Curious_Cube> Can anyone track me here?
[06:15] <WACOMalt> track you?
[06:15] <WACOMalt> on IRC?
[06:16] <Curious_Cube> Yes.
[06:16] <WACOMalt> I mean anyone can log the char messages, yes.
[06:16] <WACOMalt> *chat
[06:16] <cfhowlett> Curious_Cube: this irc is logged
[06:16] <WACOMalt> but if you mean track to your location
[06:16] <Curious_Cube> Can anyone know my ip address and location?
[06:16] <WACOMalt> if you type /whois and your anme you can see what we can see
[06:16] <WACOMalt> I see A IP address, not necessarily yours
[06:17] <Curious_Cube> Oh. I got it...
[06:17] <Curious_Cube> Thank you.
[06:17] <WACOMalt> IRC is a very very very old chat protocol. there is plenty of information about security, but if ytou join #freenode, they can answer your questions more detailed
[06:17] <Curious_Cube> But I've another problem
[06:17] <WACOMalt> is it about ubuntu?
[06:17] <WACOMalt> if so, ask away :)
[06:18] <WACOMalt> also.. I have to brb
[06:18] <Onixs> pooh
[06:18] <Curious_Cube> Yeah.
[06:18] <Curious_Cube> How can I install package program like .tar.gz on ubuntu?
[06:19] <Curious_Cube> I'm a beginner in Ubuntu.
[06:20] <L3top> Curious_Cube: It depends on the contents of the tarball. Once extracted (tar xvzf name.tar.gz) there is typically a README text file explaining how to install.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Curious_Cube: Generally you *shouldn't* install from tar files. You should use Ubuntu Software Center to find and install Software.
[06:26] <deebo> any idea what makes my system run: "find / /boot /media/USB DISK -mount -type f -executable"
[06:26] <deebo> its killing all my io, the system is almost unusable
[06:27] <yekoms> does anyone know how i install MIRACL ?
[06:27] <mx_> I am using ubuntu 10.04 and when i open sound preferences I did't find device to select in Hardware tab how can i solve it
[06:29] <deebo> oh man, it's a third party monitoring app
[06:29] <L3top> deebo: I don't know what is running that... but yeah... I would expect that crushes your resources... I would do some recursive grepping and find it.
[06:29] <deebo> its miradore, ill kill it and complain to the ict company handling our hardware
[06:30] <Kartagis> !find pecl
[06:31] <L3top> mx_: does sudo aplay -l return anything?
[06:31] <Kartagis> what's the command to find out what package provides a binary?
[06:32] <Hatori> kartagis, dpkg -S some/path/binary
[06:33] <Kartagis> Hatori: I was thinking of something like yum whatprovides
[06:33] <Kartagis> Hatori: I think that requires that the binary has already been installed
[06:34] <Hatori> kartagis, you can use apt-file
[06:34] <mx_> L3top: the out put of command is aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[06:35] <L3top> mx_: not a good start. How about: lspci | grep -i audio
[06:36] <mx_> L3top: the output is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[06:36] <redwarriors25> how can install apache
[06:37] <redwarriors25> how can install apache
[06:37] <Hatori> redwarriors25, install apache2
[06:37] <Hatori> !apache2
[06:37] <Hatori> !apache
[06:39] <L3top> mx_: I think you are probably gonna have to install backports... sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-$(uname -r)     and reboot.
[06:40] <X-tonic> will python 3.3 make it to 12.10?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|X-tonic:
[06:41] <Disciple> I need help, im setting up an LTSP server with thin clients, Challenge is I cant make it work with the LDAP.  When I write the command ldapid i get the users but when i use just id i dont
[06:42] <Guest83267> Buongiorno a tutti, è la prima volta per me
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !itGuest83267:
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !it|Guest83267:
[06:43] <Guest83267> come posso chiedere?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> !it|Guest83267:
[06:44] <tryy3> is there any difrence in the installation when you install with wubi then installing ubuntu with a cd?
[06:45] <L3top> Too much to detail tryy3. Use the cd.
[06:45] <tryy3> L3top k, i ment if there is any difrence what you get like, preinstalled and such
[06:45] <cfhowlett> tryy3: wubi is a testing platform not a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth wubi developers
[06:46] <tryy3> cfhowlett oh... ok
[06:46] <cfhowlett> tryy3: consider dual booting or virtualization
[06:46] <tryy3> cfhowlett ye, i installed ubuntu before, but with wubi :D
[06:46] <tryy3> i guess i go with CD this time
[06:49] <Curious_Cube> Hlw! I'm using a GSM modem to connect to internet.How can I see it's speed?
[06:58] <mx_> L3top: Thanks a lot its work successfully :)
[07:00] <bazhang> http://www.speedtest.net/     <-------- Curious_Cube go there
[07:02] <Curious_Cube> Hey !
[07:02] <Curious_Cube> I need help !
[07:03] <gogeta> that's nice
[07:03] <bazhang> Curious_Cube, then ask the channel
[07:04] <gogeta> bazhang: slow night
[07:05] <bazhang> !details | Curious_Cube
[07:05] <Curious_Cube> can i install windows software on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <bazhang> !wine | Curious_Cube
[07:05] <gogeta> lol
[07:06] <bazhang> gogeta, no need for that
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !wine|Curious_Cube:   sometimes but why would you want to?
[07:06] <gogeta> bazhang: dunno aboght wine these days
[07:07] <bazhang> gogeta, lets save the chat for #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:07] <Agalloch> Hello all, i am trying to build easy mailserver with Ubuntu server 12.04 , but i really dont understand, why my dovecot doesnt run. I cant telnet 143 port from localhost either. What i could try? Starting service dovecot start shows it really starts, but status or ps shows, dovecot doesnt run.
[07:08] <Curious_Cube> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I want install windows software like Notepad++ and others.
[07:08] <witakr> Curious_Cube, PlyOnLinux is your best bet
[07:08] <bazhang> Curious_Cube, read the links we just gave you
[07:08] <cfhowlett> Curious_Cube: try wine.  Expect unforeseen consequences.
[07:09] <Ben64> Curious_Cube: you should look for native alternatives first
[07:09] <bazhang> !appdb | Curious_Cube check here
[07:09] <witakr> Curious_Cube, playonlinux.com..
[07:10] <Curious_Cube> Ok. Thanks
[07:11] <witakr> Curious_Cube, Ben64 is right... There is a lot of native software out there that more than replaces your normal windows apps.. Usually improving on the experience in my opinion
[07:13] <Curious_Cube> is there any alternative for Notepad++?
[07:13] <bazhang> !equivalents | Curious_Cube have a read
[07:13] <aneek147> hi all
[07:13] <delinquentme> how to list all members within a group on ubuntu?
[07:14] <witakr> I'm sure there is... Check the Ubuntu Software Center..Search for Notepad or HTML Editor or something along those lines a try a couple out.
[07:15] <witakr> hello aneek147
[07:15] <aneek147> i am having issue with my ubuntu , i installed wine window emulator on ubuntu , now i wanna to play a wwe video game on it there is a direcrtx plugin issue error showing so any one can tell me how to configure dircetx on wine
[07:15] <aneek147> hi witakr
[07:15] <cfhowlett> aneek147: check on winedb?
[07:16] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org    <----- aneek147
[07:16] <witakr> aneek147, check this site out: playonlinux.com it is a better front end for wine and it makes installing games and other software much less painful
[07:16] <bazhang> aneek147, then /join #winehq for application support
[07:16] <aneek147> cfhowlett i check the option of enabling it directx on wine even then error is same  friends
[07:16] <aneek147> ok witakr
[07:16] <bazhang> aneek147, /join #winehq after checking the appdb
[07:17] <cfhowlett> aneek147: check #wineh1 for specifics of installing various games.
[07:17] <Ben64> #winehq
[07:17] <aneek147> ok bazhang let me see
[07:18] <aneek147> ote cfhowlett
[07:19] <aneek147> thanks all friends i m checking all the options u suggest me . after checking them i ill tell u is it resolve or not
[07:19] <aneek147> :)
[07:19] <witakr> aneek147,  good luck
[07:20] <witakr> bed time! Nite yall
[07:22] <Eagleman> Am i able to use intel quicksync in combination with a windows machine running on KVM?
[07:22] <WACOMalt> can anyone point me to a comprehensive guide on how to install themes? I am completely overwhelmed by the number of different pieces that have to be manually managede to get your system even looking uniform with a new theme
[07:22] <WACOMalt> *managed
[07:24] <WACOMalt> or if someone can point me to a good PPA installer for a theme that has gtk3, cinnamon, icons, and anything else that could be involved.
[07:26] <shellAx> hello
[07:26] <shellAx> hi
[07:26] <bazhang> WACOMalt, launchpad has a ppa search page. if by cinnamon you mean the MINT related DE, then have a look there for it. Keep in mind PPA are completely at your own risk and not supported at all
[07:26] <shellAx> i am in a big mess can someone help
[07:26] <bazhang> shellAx, ask the channel and see
[07:26] <shellAx> an hour ago the power went off and suddenly my pc crashed]
[07:26] <shellAx> now when i switch on the computer
[07:26] <shellAx> select ubuntu from grub
[07:26] <shellAx> it takes me to a weird sh
[07:27] <bazhang> shellAx, on ONE line
[07:27] <shellAx> that says initramfs
[07:27] <shellAx> i am so scared :S
[07:27] <WACOMalt> bazhang, awesome, thanks. I do mean cinnamon, the DE (what's DE?), but yeah the one in Mint.
[07:27] <bazhang> !enter | shellAx
[07:27] <WACOMalt> I cant stand unity, so I switched
[07:27] <shellAx> i am on a small notebook right now where its hard to type and the power wont be long as i cant find the charge, please help
[07:28] <cfhowlett> shellAx: come back on a different computer when you have a stable connection.  We don't do well under self-inflicted pressure
[07:28] <shellAx> ok i am sorry, please i dont have another computer. i'll be patient can you help me please
[07:29] <WACOMalt> O_o why am I getting random glitchy black and white text across my screen every few seconds...
[07:29] <WACOMalt> feckin NVidia I assume...
[07:29] <Eagleman> Am i able to use intel quicksync in combination with a windows machine running on KVM?
[07:30] <Martell> can someone help me? dualboot problem here, i dont know if i formatted my Windows partition with Ubuntu or not, i HOPE its still there, because i cant boot into my Windows
[07:30] <shellAx> anyone?
[07:31] <cfhowlett> shellAx: did you have a completed ubuntu installation?
[07:31] <bazhang> Quick Sync is not currently supported on Linux.    Eagleman
[07:31] <shellAx> cfhowlett: yes, for like 1.5yr or so
[07:31] <cfhowlett> shellAx: so this was 12.04?
[07:32] <shellAx> it was fine i was working and the power went off, ups couldnt sustain and it switched off now when i boot i have the initramfs prompt, it is work hours and i got important data too
[07:32] <shellAx> 11.10
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Martell: boot a live ubuntu cd and look at the partitions.
[07:32] <WACOMalt> bleh. Why are themes still such an impossible feat on Linux. Or maybe it's just me :/
[07:32] <bazhang> Martell, what does sudo fdisk -l   say    <-------- paste.ubuntu.com
[07:32] <shellAx> cfhowlett: and then ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> shellAx: ah.  Soon to be End of life.  VERY soon.  maybe upgrade?
[07:32] <shellAx> i am no ubuntu guru, not sure which are partitions but maybe i can manage
[07:33] <jafaraf> quick question: Where do you guys keep your application folders when you download them? eg, I downloaded sublime text, and unzipped it to /opt then created a sym link to /usr/bin/sublime so it would be on my path. Is that a typical way to handle that?
[07:33] <Martell> cfhowlett : dont work, ive tried it
[07:33] <shellAx> i will upgrade if i can boot it in first place :S
[07:33] <cfhowlett> shellAx: I'd start with reinstalling grub to see if that'll work.
[07:33] <bazhang> jafaraf, not at all
[07:33] <cfhowlett> shellAx: you'll need a live ubuntu CD
[07:33] <shellAx> cfhowlett: how would i go about doing that ?
[07:33] <bazhang> jafaraf, install from the package manager and the software repositories
[07:33] <shellAx> ok, my friend is getting it in few mins
[07:33] <cfhowlett> shellAx: boot from an ubuntu CD and ...
[07:33] <shellAx> after that what should i do exactly ?
[07:33] <cfhowlett> !grub|shellAx:
[07:34] <cfhowlett> Martell: wait, tried to upgrade?
[07:34] <Martell> cfhowlett: upgrade what?
[07:34] <jafaraf> Thanks bazhang. I wanted to try to do it manually as kind of a practice. Since I'm sure I'll encounter some software I won't find on the repos. What would you do if I couldn't get it from the package manager?
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Martell: never mind.
[07:35] <bazhang> jafaraf, like what for instance. it's hard to imagine the repos not having it
[07:35] <Eagleman> Am i able to use intel quicksync in combination with a windows machine running on KVM?
[07:35] <bazhang> Martell, sudo fdisk -l output to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <shellAx> cfhowlett: using the live cd is there someway to maybe first get into 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.10 ?
[07:35] <bustacap> How can I remove certain boot options in grub?
[07:35] <bazhang> Eagleman, I just answered that
[07:36] <cfhowlett> shellAx: nope.
[07:36] <Eagleman> bazhang yes you did for linux, i was talking about windows in kvm
[07:36] <bazhang> bustacap, like what
[07:36] <bazhang> Eagleman, ask in ##windows
[07:36] <Eagleman> It is linux related
[07:36] <bustacap> bazhang, just some recovery options, I don't want them enabled unless I need to use them.
[07:36] <jafaraf> Good questions. I can't say. I guess I was curious more than anything else since I have the option of downloading it from the site. What happens when I use the package manger? Where do all those files end up? It depends, I would imagine?
[07:36] <shellAx> so i need a 12.10 live cd only ?
[07:36] <bazhang> Eagleman, and I answered that portion
[07:36] <cfhowlett> shellAx: fyi, you can directly upgrade from LTS to LTS i.e. 10.04 to 12.04.  Unless you seriously NEED 12.10, I'd strongly urge you to consider an LTS only policy.  Fewer headaches.
[07:37] <aneek147> hi friend i tried with option given by u and still not able to open that wwe game it is a protable .exe game
[07:37] <shellAx> cfhowlett: can i do from 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[07:37] <aneek147> and when i m runing it its asking for directx pluginss
[07:37] <cfhowlett> shellAx: yep
[07:37] <bazhang> aneek147, be patient in #winehq  thats where to ask after checking the appdb
[07:37] <shellAx> great
[07:37] <shellAx> let me get the cd quick
[07:37] <shellAx> what a mess day :(
[07:38] <cfhowlett> shellAx: but might be better to just clean install 12.04 rather than upgrade
[07:38] <aneek147> okk bazhang
[07:38] <Japex> sladen:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> ZorgHCS:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> Zethrok:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> Taylor:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> exicer:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> `Nano_:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> mathfreak:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> pr0ton:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> shantorn__:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <FloodBot1> Japex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <Japex> dkpryo:        [FAILED]
[07:38] <Japex> altin:        [FAILED]
[07:39] <bazhang> jafaraf, if you bypass the package manager, then all upgrades have to be done manually. and thats just for starters
[07:39] <aneek147> i ill be so thankful of u guys if u can check it by taking remote control of my team viewer
[07:39] <Martell> cfhowlett: hold on mate, im going to my ubuntu pc and online from there, a sec
[07:39] <bazhang> aneek147, did you even check the appdb?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Martell: alright
[07:40] <aneek147> yeah bazhang
[07:40] <aneek147> it is not avialble in appdb
[07:40] <bazhang> aneek147, and what did it say?
[07:40] <bazhang> aneek147, then it may NOT run at all. wine cannot do every windows app
[07:40] <pr0ton> ??
[07:41] <shellAx> shit seems like i have 11.04
[07:41] <aneek147> hmm ok bazhang thanks
[07:41] <shellAx> ok 11.10 is also there
[07:41] <aneek147> could u help me in one more query ?
[07:41] <jafaraf> thanks bazhang. And what command do I use to check the repos to see if they have what I'm looking for? Would that be apt-cache search **program**?
[07:41] <bazhang> aneek147, ask the channel and see
[07:42] <bazhang> jafaraf, sure
[07:42] <aneek147> i m having a wireless printer with scanner service  and i want to distrubute scanner with another ubuntu user
[07:42] <aneek147> so how can i share my hp scanner with other user?
[07:43] <martell> cfhowlett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253428/
[07:44] <delinquentme> how to install RVG?
[07:44] <delinquentme> i googled it and nothing
[07:45] <aneek147> any one know how to share scanner with multiple ubunut desktops
[07:45] <bazhang> delinquentme, rvg being what?
[07:45] <delinquentme> bazhang, its called Ruby Vector Graphics?
[07:45] <delinquentme> just heard about it myself
[07:46] <bazhang>  File rvg found in ruby-rmagick, ruby-rmagick-doc    delinquentme
[07:46] <delinquentme> so you're thinking "sudo apt-get install ruby-rmagick " bazhang ?
[07:47] <martell> google "how to install rmagick ubuntu"
[07:47] <yugandhar> HI Technicians
[07:47] <bazhang> martell, thats not helpful
[07:47] <bazhang> !google > martell
[07:48] <shellAx> is there a shortcut to get terminaal?
[07:49] <bazhang> shellAx, ctrl alt T
[07:49] <yugandhar> I have one problem, i could not able to add the network notification on desktop pannel
[07:49] <yugandhar> Please help me
[07:49] <bazhang> yugandhar, what have you tried
[07:49] <shellAx> ok i booted with live cd
[07:50] <shellAx> when i click one of the devices from home folder, it gives me error, wrong fs type bad option superblovk on /dev/sda5 missing codepage or helper program, is that helpful for you to help me out ?
[07:50] <zruty> How can I force the upgrade of a package? apt-get upgrade does nto work..
[07:51] <martell> bazhang, can you look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1253428/
[07:51] <bazhang> zruty, which package and why would you need to
[07:51] <zruty> bazhang: Apache. I think my config files are for a newer version
[07:52] <redwarriors25> how can install apache
[07:53] <redwarriors25> what command
[07:53] <ikonia> redwarriors25: open the package manager, search for it, click install
[07:53] <pox> hello
[07:53] <redwarriors25> in command how
[07:53] <bazhang> martell, how big is that hdd? 500GB?
[07:53] <martell> gomo klate
[07:53] <martell> bazhang,  yes
[07:53] <ikonia> redwarriors25: open the package manager, search for it, click install
[07:53] <bazhang> redwarriors25, are you on debian?
[07:54] <redwarriors25> ubuntu 12.04
[07:54] <pox> you know smuxi?
[07:54] <bazhang> redwarriors25, you asked this before; apache2 you mean? for LAMP?
[07:54] <bazhang> !lamp | redwarriors25 do some reading
[07:55] <redwarriors25> for webserver
[07:55] <bazhang> redwarriors25, then read the actual links
[07:55] <Sarissss> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[07:57] <shellAx> i have lost all my data :(
[07:57] <shellAx> i tried the answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-up-fails-drops-to-initramfs-prompt-12-04
[07:57] <delinquentme> is it a terribad practice to kill the process running from " sudo apt-get upgrade " ??
[07:57] <martell> bazhang, i tried dualboot, i dont know if i mistakenly formatted the Windows partition for my ubuntu installation (hopefully not), and i kinda think i use a wrong swap area and windows loader during the installation, now i cant boot into my windows
[07:58] <auronandace> shellAx: backups to the rescue
[07:58] <shellAx> and i have messed up everything, can anyone help ?
[07:58] <shellAx> please
[07:58] <bazhang> delinquentme, what part of the process? still downloading? or ;ldconfig stage
[07:59] <delinquentme> just finished bazhang !
[07:59] <auronandace> !rootirc | [x]
[07:59] <bazhang> martell, what were you doing that might have "mistakenly" formated your windows partition
[08:00] <[x]> how-to-add-user-with-root-privileges-and-ssh-access-159008?
[08:00] <Marzata> trying to installing ubuntu on an old Compaq nc6220 with an USB stick, but the system can not boot even from that. It starts and stops after a minute. Any idea?
[08:01] <Marzata> trying to install ... :)
[08:01] <martell> bazhang,  i dont know bro. i just want to know whether i still have my Windows or not
[08:01] <woot-0584> !usb | Marzata
 : i have opened new dialog box......
[08:02] <shellAx> IT WORKD :D
[08:02] <shellAx> i made it, i saved myself
[08:02] <yugandhar> Please help me on that chat
[08:02] <blackshirt> yugandhar: what the problems ?
[08:03] <[x]> welcome blackshirt
[08:04] <blackshirt> [x]: welcome back :D
[08:04] <[x]> still exploring how-to-add-user-with-root-privileges-and-ssh-access
[08:04]  * Marzata is trying with a DVD
[08:05] <blackshirt> [x]: oh no :D
[08:07] <redwarriors25> how can i open terminal client in ubuntu 12.04
[08:07] <Marzata> redwarriors25: good question
[08:08] <redwarriors25> how?
[08:08] <LorSamPau_w> ctrl+alt+t
[08:08] <sayers> CTRL+T or CTRL+ALT+T
[08:08] <redwarriors25> nope the file sharing
[08:09] <Marzata> from DVD freezes too
[08:10] <Marzata> so USB and DVD can not boot Ubuntu, they freeze after a minute in the booting process? Any idea?
[08:11] <sayers> marzata: take a deep breath and wait 15-30minutes then see if the booting process really freezed
[08:11] <Marzata> sayers: you serious?
[08:12] <sayers> marzata: older pc(weak pc) will boot slower than a newer one
[08:13] <Marzata> sayers: it doesn't show any activity on the screen or on the pc indicators
[08:13] <gordonjcp> Marzata: try booting without splash and quiet
[08:13] <bustacap> For some reason when I open google chrome ubuntu logs me out. Is this a known bug?
[08:13] <rhizmoe> doubtful
[08:13] <Marzata> gordonjcp: without splash?
[08:14] <redwarriors25> how can i access in terminal client in ubuntu
[08:14] <rhizmoe> you accidentally a word
[08:15] <sveinse> I'm running xfce4 on a server and I've just installed digiKam. What package do I need to install to get kde font settings?
[08:15] <bustacap> How can I troubleshoot a crash causing me to logout?
[08:16] <[x]>  adduser -u 0 -o -g 0 -G 0,1,2,3,4,6,10 -M root2
[08:16] <[x]> ?
[08:16] <sayers> redwarriors25: Close all windows. Go to the desktop and HOLD DOWN these buttons-> CTRL+ALT+T or CTRL+T
[08:17] <redwarriors25> the terminal client
[08:18] <sayers> redwarriors25: Google said: "Open Terminal (Ubuntu 12.04 Keyboard Shortcut: Ctrl + Alt + T)"
[08:20] <sayers> redwarriors25: Opening a Terminal using a Keyboard Shortcut
[08:20] <sayers> This is the default keyboard shortcut for Ubuntu 12.04 (and probably previous Ubuntu releases) running the GNOME / Unity desktop, unless you (or someone else) has changed it, it should work.
[08:20] <sayers> This also the default keyboard shortcut if you have changed your desktop environment to GNOME Shell, LXDE, or the Lubuntu Desktop and will work unless you (or someone else) has changed it.
[08:20] <sayers> This will NOT work for the XFCE or Xubuntu Desktop unless you (or someone else) has added the keyboard shortcut.
[08:20] <sayers> 1) Press Ctrl + Alt + T to open a terminal / command line / shell.
[08:20] <FloodBot1> sayers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <sayers> NOTE: pressing Ctrl + Alt + T means: simultaneously hold down the Ctrl key and Alt key, then press the T key as though you intend to type it.
[08:20] <sayers> DO NOT press the Shift key because Ctrl + Alt + Shift + T is different from Ctrl + Alt + T.
[08:21] <[x]> mailto:void@host86-146-95-62.range86-146.btcentralplus.com ?
[08:29] <Malsasa> Hello, my 12.04 enable my VGA when my version of Ubuntu OS can't. Now, how can I take the VGA driver information from 12.04? Completely. How? Can somebody give me?
[08:31] <fidel> Malsasa: what is your native language?
[08:31] <hatori> Malsasa, maksude opo kang :D
[08:32] <zidoh> my install broke somewhere during package installation, leaving me without either ssh or gdm.. is there an easy way to tell aptitude to simply install all the base install packages ?
[08:32] <Malsasa> fidel: Indonesian.
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> !in
[08:32] <fidel> zidoh: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (is some kind of meta-package for the desktop-collection)
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> !id
[08:32] <[x]> maksude opo kang indo ?
[08:33] <fidel> !en > [x]
[08:33] <zidoh> fidel: cheers
[08:33] <fidel> Malsasa: asking as your english is somehow hard to follow. consider asking in your local channel as well ;)
[08:33] <[x]> hatori a japanese name !
[08:34] <yugandhar> Hi, My notification area is in disabled status ... pls let me know how to enable it?
[08:36] <[x]> !en > fidel
[08:36] <Malsasa> hatori: I ask for driver, Brother...
[08:36] <Malsasa> Okay, I ask again.
[08:36] <[x]> bot not controllable by me ?
[08:36] <[x]> lol :D
[08:38] <[x]> linux running in virtual machine is good choice ? coz many drivers failed to react to scripts i got display pblm
[08:38] <Malsasa> My Ubuntu 12.04 can detect my VGA well so COmpiz can run well in 12.04. But my another Ubuntu (lower version), cant detect the VGA. I think the trouble is driver. So, how to know the graphic driver installed in my 12.04? There are so many entries in Synaptic.
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  is the older version supported, or is it end of life?
[08:39] <[x]> hatori, is you got disconnected ?
[08:39] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: 12.04 is supported.
[08:40] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  what do you mean by 'lower version'
[08:41] <[x]> lol
[08:41] <[x]> do you know any irc sharing info regarding digital communication ?
[08:41] <Malsasa> Oh, it is 10.10. But I want to know, please.
[08:42] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  10.10 is not supported, won't work
[08:42] <Malsasa> No,no.
[08:42] <Malsasa> I just want to know how to tak einformation from 12.04.
[08:42] <Malsasa> I just want to know how to take information from 12.04.
[08:43] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  you want to make a driver from 12.04 work on 10.10, is that it?
[08:43] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: No, i just want to know the driver used in my 12.04.
[08:44] <munim> hey.. can anyone here help me ssh into my ubuntu guest in virtualbox from an ubuntu host machine? these networking options are really confusing me.. point me to a good article if you guys have nay
[08:44] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: can you let me know?
[08:45] <cag> Hi, everybody. Eclipse vs eclim, how should I choose. Who can tell me the advantage of each other. Thank you ^_^
[08:45] <zidoh> fidel: that worked out nicely, thanks :)
[08:45] <cag> Can you show a little more detail?
[08:46] <cduffin> cag: well one is a full featured IDE, the other is some extra features in a text editor
[08:46] <cduffin> So do you want a proper IDE or a fancy text editor
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  there's this, I tried it, it's ok   http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:49] <Malsasa> Thank you, MonkeyDust. Please never stop help newbie like me.
[08:49] <cag> cduffin: I see that, but I want to know it worth or not.
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  that's not a newbie question
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> driver check
[08:50] <cag> It seems to have many command, too.
[08:51] <cduffin> cag: only you can really answer that. Every persons usage is different
[08:51] <cag> cduffin: O^O May you tell me some of your feeling using eclim?
[08:51] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: no, no, you're wrong. I just want my 10.10 Compiz enabled. Really i like 10.10.
[08:51] <Ben64> Malsasa: 10.10 is no longer supported
[08:52] <cag> cduffin: just a little more, thanks.
[08:52] <Malsasa> Ben64: I know, so I ask here for 12.04, not 10.10.
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  i already told you, 10.10 is EOL
[08:52] <Ben64> Malsasa: but you keep saying you want stuff for 10.10
[08:52] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: I know.
[08:53] <Malsasa> Ben64: Yes I like it. But I wanna know how to reveal information from 12.04. It is useful :)
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa  you're not getting it, 10.10 won't work and is not supported
[08:53] <Ben64> Malsasa: what MonkeyDust said
[08:54] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: thank you.
[08:54] <Malsasa> Ben64: Thank you
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> *me gives up
[08:54]  * MonkeyDust gives up
[08:54] <Malsasa> MonkeyDust: give up for what?
[08:55] <root____5> dfdfd
[08:55] <root____5> fdfdfdf
[08:55] <root____5> Test
[08:55] <Malsasa> Ben64: MonkeyDust: can you see this: http://apt-web.dahsy.at/
[08:55] <Ben64> root____5: no
[08:55] <T_H_X> nix is simple.. this shit makes it hard
[08:55] <Ben64> T_H_X: watch the language
[08:56] <T_H_X> excuse me
[08:59] <T_H_X> had cpl beers too many. afk
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> T_H_X  guess you're in the wrong channel
[09:01] <T_H_X> yea, good one
[09:02] <T_H_X> .. humans
[09:02] <T_H_X> lets stay on topic eh
[09:03] <[x]> :D
[09:03] <T_H_X> ;[
[09:04] <klj613> ssh-add is same as doing it manually via ~/.ssh/config ?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> klj613  config does not appear in the man page, so guess not
[09:11] <shal> anyone tell me how to get this little guy working
[09:11] <shal> http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Bluetooth-Micro-Adapter-GBU521/dp/B007GFX0PY/ref=tag_stc_cust_edpp_ttl 0a5c:21e8 Broadcom Corp
[09:12] <shal> says in amazon testimonial that works with 12.04 after some config file tweak
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> !bcm
[09:15] <[x]> bcm4313 supported by linux ?
[09:16] <shal> MonkeyDust: is that not about wifi drivers and not bt adapters
[09:16] <Marzata> gordonjcp: boot without splash? how to?
[09:16] <Marzata> boot without splash? how to?
[09:16] <ThinkT510> !boot | Marzata
[09:16] <[x]> splash what is that?
[09:16] <Marzata> ThinkT510: thank you Lenovo!
[09:16] <IdleOne> !broadcom | [x]
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> shal  yeah, i was too fast, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:25] <Marzata> oh, the Fedora 17 installer works ... come on Canonical
[09:25]  * Marzata is installing Fedorea 17 Xfce. 
[09:25] <ikonia> Marzata: please take the pointless stuff elsewhere
[09:26] <Marzata> ikonia: if you explain to me why I can not install Ubuntu from USB or DVD, but I can Fedora ...
[09:31] <STMelon_> what i would do is google: can not install Ubuntu from USB or DVD, but I can Fedora ... good chance is, a bad burn
[09:31]  * STMelon_ shrugs "but thats just me"
[09:31] <ikonia> Marzata: you'd have to work that through, and this channel would be happy to work it thorugh and help you log a bug
[09:31] <ikonia> Marzata: however just commenting that fedora works isn't helpful or relevant
[09:33] <Marzata> yes, the answer is 42. Thank you, community!
[09:35] <warren-hill> Marzata: Get the latest download, check the MD5sum, burn as slowly as possible it should work
[09:36] <[x]> MD5sum what is this ? and it purpose ?
[09:36] <[x]> wat is hash ?
[09:36] <ThinkT510> !md5 | [x]
[09:37] <ThinkT510> [x]: if the hash is the same it means that the file you downloaded is fine (it didn't get corrupted)
[09:37] <warren-hill> |x|: Md5 is a check that the download has worked correctly.  A unique number you compare with what it should be
[09:38] <[x]> so it is responisible for resume download support
[09:38] <ThinkT510> [x]: no
[09:38] <[x]> :|
[09:38] <ThinkT510> [x]: it is a check to see if what you downloaded is fine
[09:39] <warren-hill> When you download anything sometimes it goes wrong.  This is a simple check that it hasn't
[09:39] <[x]> check at the begining of download starts and at end ?
[09:39] <ThinkT510> [x]: after the download is finished
[09:40] <warren-hill> See the links from ubottu just check when finished. if number same it worked without error
[09:40] <[x]> check to see all files downloaded has integerated properly ?
[09:40] <rp2> it's mainly to check whether what you downloaded is identical to what the uploaded provided
[09:40] <rp2> yes.
[09:40] <[x]> hmm ok ThinkT510  thanks
[09:41] <[x]> ok rp2
[09:41] <rp2> and that it hasn't been replaced on the server with something infected with malware
[09:41] <rp2> (I've witnessed such a case)
[09:41] <[x]> :|
[09:41] <somsip> [x]: Try this http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-check-md5-hash/2008/05/06
[09:42] <[x]> somsip, thanks
[09:44] <thabop> my ubuntu 12 installation have display errors, have crashed a few times ('precise").  For example, when leaving my computer on, the screen blanks out after  awhile and no mouse or keyboard movement will switch it back on again - reboot is the only option.
[09:44] <[x]> somsip i need a help regarding digital communication do you have any good info link
[09:45] <somsip> [x]: No, but there are search engines that specialise in this sort of thing
[09:45] <Calinou> thabop: disable suspend mode in power management settings
[09:45] <Calinou> suspending on linux is terrible
[09:45] <Calinou> suspending itself is a bad idea
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> somsip  don't say that when people ask for help
[09:46] <[x]> search engine ? u mean google ?
[09:46] <Calinou> also, if you use a laptop, use the "only blank screen" when closing lid option
[09:47] <somsip> MonkeyDust: I prefer to be helpful rather than just saying 'no' when asked a direct question. Though I am away of the !google rule
[09:47] <somsip> *aware
[09:47] <tomtomtom> for the past few months my update keeping staying  40k speed
[09:47] <thabop> i'm using a desktop. Is there a way to modify settings for the moinitor not to switch off?
[09:47] <guest_> sometimes google dont help much
[09:47] <tomtomtom> how to solve it ? hwere to look ?
[09:48] <[x]> guest ur ri8
[09:48] <guest_> ri8?
[09:48] <[x]> now a days i hate google :(
[09:48] <guest_> me too i miss the older version
[09:48] <ThinkT510> !u | [x]
[09:48] <[x]> right
[09:49] <[x]> ThinkT510, :| no
[09:49] <guest_> ok thanks {x}
[09:49] <guest_> [x]
[09:50] <excervo> hello guys, can't dowload youtube videos with always prompting invalid url
[09:50] <[x]> guest how you changed your font color ?
[09:50] <thabop> calinou thanks
[09:50] <tomtomtom> I got 200m to be downloaded but the update manager speed is at 40k
[09:51] <metulburr> i cannot get html to include other html, can anyone help?
[09:51] <tomtomtom> how long does that take to finish download
[09:51] <somsip> metulburr: use PHP
[09:51] <[x]> pamp
[09:51] <ThinkT510> [x]: thats a highlight
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> metulburr  idd, include is a php tag, not html
[09:51] <metulburr> i thought the html code was <!--#include virtual="insertthisfile.html" -->
[09:52] <metulburr> but i will try php insteae
[09:52] <[x]> ok ThinkT510
[09:52] <metulburr> ^instead
[09:52] <[x]> T150 ? wat do you mean by this
[09:53] <ThinkT510> [x]: when somebody mentions your nick it highlights you
[09:53] <somsip> metulburr: Server Side Include. May require some server changes to work. Never used it myself
[09:53] <ThinkT510> [x]: so the text is in a different colour
[09:53] <metulburr> I have added to apache for html include, but couldn't get it to work
[09:53] <ThinkT510> [x]: at least in xchat (different irc clients handle highlights different ways)
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> metulburr  php saves the day
[09:53] <somsip> metulburr: then you either need #apache (possibly) or a site like this http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/ssi.html
[09:54] <[x]> yea tx for the info ThinkT510
[09:54] <[x]> who use php in mobile ?
[09:54] <metulburr> somsip, yup i read through that and adjusted my apache config for that, ut couldn't get it to work still, but i will try #apache
[09:54] <metulburr> thanks
[09:55] <[x]> pamp is php client for symbian phones
[09:55] <Sailor_Moon> hello, dears!
[09:55] <T_H_X> hi ,mom
[09:55] <guest_> mom?
[09:55] <[x]> :|
[09:56] <[x]> lol
[09:56] <Sailor_Moon> about file system "UMSDOS"
[09:56]  * T_H_X wanders off
[09:56] <Sailor_Moon> lol)
[09:56] <Sailor_Moon> how to create it under DOS?
[09:56] <Sailor_Moon> T_H_X: hi, son)
[09:56] <[x]> :|
[09:56] <Sailor_Moon> xD
[09:57] <[x]> umsdos what is that
[09:57] <guest_> erm... am i missing the joke?
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> Sailor_Moon  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[09:57] <[x]> :| monkey
[09:57] <excervo> hello guys, can't dowload youtube videos with always prompting invalid url
[09:58] <Sailor_Moon> Monkey: yes, about ubuntu: the ubuntu 4.10 can work unbder UMSDOS fs, so i 'll try
[09:58] <somsip> excervo: download them with what?
[09:58] <[x]> excervo,  :D
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> excervo  use youtube-dl
[09:58] <excervo> somsip, with miro guys, sorry
[09:59] <somsip> excervo: no idea then. I'm with MonkeyDust and youtube-dl
[09:59] <[x]> is there any download manger for ubuntu which automatically download .flv files just like idman ?
 umsdos is fs like fut but with many feautures; it can use linux
[09:59] <^Morgoth> tify kingcrimson
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> Sailor_Moon  i guess you're not in the right channel
[09:59] <somsip> excervo: maybe one for the Miro chat which is listed on their homepage
[09:59] <excervo> somsip , thanks i'll try that
[09:59] <somsip> excervo: just #miro apparently
 maybe, wget have future - download recursive, with extension ".flv"
[10:00] <[x]> Sailor_Moon, which irc client using ?
[10:00] <[x]> how to pick up the .flv link Sailor_Moon
 try /version Sailor_Moon
[10:01] <Sailor_Moon> Monkey: ok
[10:02] <gordonjcp> [x]: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:02] <[x]> VERSION mTCP IRCjr for DOS version May 30 2012 running under DOS 7.10
[10:02] <excervo> somsip, thanks
[10:02] <guest_> so is this channel specifically for questions or for ubuntu talk?
[10:02] <Sailor_Moon> under FreeDOS
[10:02] <karthick87> I tried to install g++ via using sudo apt-get install build essential but it not work, it warned me message "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?". How can i fix it???
[10:03] <[x]> gordonjcp, i just need to download flv file which is running on a web page via flash player
[10:04] <ThinkT510> karthick87: got another package manager running?
[10:04] <[x]> idman simply pop-ups download this file
[10:04] <karthick87> ThinkT510: No
[10:04] <lurraca> I have a question is there any side effect of increasing the limit of open files to 300k for example?
[10:04] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | karthick87
[10:04] <[x]> karthick87, indian :O
[10:05] <guest_> so did anyone see my question?
[10:05] <[x]> umsddos
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> guest_  ubuntu support, not ubuntu 'talk'
[10:06] <[x]> no guest_
[10:06] <guest_> ok thanks monkey
[10:06] <[x]> :D lol
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> !tab > guest_
[10:07] <guest_> i didnt see it ubottu?
[10:08] <guest_> the reason i asked was that i have a question
[10:08] <somsip> !ask | guest_
[10:09] <tomtomtom> guys my ubuntu update hang
[10:09] <guest_> ok. i wanted to know if there was any risk to data loss if i boot from a live cd
[10:09] <nydel> guest_: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[10:09] <nydel> you may find that very interesting, it still interests me very much and has for years
[10:10] <[x]> wc hateball
[10:10] <tomtomtom> first i try to select new server for update then it give me error saying "apt-get locking...."
[10:10] <[x]> welcome Hatori
[10:10] <tomtomtom> and now it hang
[10:10] <ThinkT510> guest_: a livecd doesn't touch your harddrive unless you tell it to
[10:10] <guest_> i will read it in a little bit
[10:10] <[x]> !tab Hatori
[10:11] <guest_> ok thank you thinkt510 i wanted to try ubuntu without risking my windows in the procces if i cant handle it
[10:11] <no-n> I'm trying to work out what key is right-click for using keyboard as mouse
[10:11] <no-n> 5 is left
[10:11] <[x]> ThinkT510, is it possible to use wifi search using live cd
[10:12] <[x]> :|
[10:12] <ThinkT510> [x]: sure
[10:12] <[x]> monitor mode ?
[10:13] <ServerSage> So I am growing a filesystem from 4TiB to 6TiB. I started the resize2fs several hours ago, and it's still going.  How long does resize2fs usually take to grow 2TiB?
[10:13] <detective0> hi
[10:13] <[x]> detective0, :O
[10:14] <[x]> brb
[10:15] <tomtomtom> where is ubuntu support staff ?
[10:16] <ServerSage> Support staff?  I think you may be confused.  This is just a help channel that individuals sit in and help.
[10:16] <vogxn_cs> i'm having some problems configuring dnsmasq.conf for tftp. is this the right place to ask?
[10:19] <tomtomtom> ubuntu is buggy
[10:19] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: What makes you say that?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> tomtomtom  this is the ubuntu support channel
[10:20] <no-n> what's right-click and middle-click for mouse keys?
[10:20] <tomtomtom> i want to do an update but it hang
[10:20] <theadmin> tomtomtom: There is no "support staff" here. Canonical does offer commercial, proffessional Ubuntu support. People here, however, are just volunteers.
[10:20] <tomtomtom> i want to change server and it say " somthing lock"
[10:21] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: I'm not sure either of those things makes Ubuntu buggy.
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> tomtomtom  'something' is a bit vague
[10:21] <theadmin> tomtomtom: Give the exact error
[10:21] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | tomtomtom
[10:22] <theadmin> no-n: According to xev they are "button 3" and "button 2" respectively, though I'm not sure what you mean by mouse keys
[10:22] <no-n> using the keyboard for the mouse
[10:22] <no-n> it's in accessibility options
[10:23] <theadmin> no-n: Oh that, um... Not sure, sorry, I don't think I have that here
[10:23] <tomtomtom> ok the error is something like " there's apt-get is running so the update manager can't have change server cos it require to lock the service and no other app can use it
[10:23] <theadmin> tomtomtom: Just PASTE the exact error here, god
[10:23] <ServerSage> no-n: Not sure if this will help you or not:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Keyboard_Modifiers
[10:23] <no-n> sounds like he's trying to use apt-get and update manager at the same time
[10:23] <no-n> that's not a bug
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> tomtomtom  use pastebin to show us the exact error
[10:24] <tomtomtom> Unable to get exclusive lock
[10:24] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Chances are automatic updates are happening in the background and you are trying to do updates manually.
[10:25] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Or, you need to do what ThinkT510 suggested earlier.
[10:25] <no-n> tomtomtom: you can't use apt-get or update manager at the same time or more than once at a time
[10:25] <no-n> it's not a bug
[10:25] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | tomtomtom: close all package managers and do the following
[10:25] <tomtomtom> i believe it turn it off on the update manager setting
[10:25] <tomtomtom> ok
[10:27] <Frag> was wondering if there is a way i could set my display to 1024x720
[10:27] <theadmin> Frag: Is that mode supported by your graphic card at all?
[10:27] <theadmin> Frag: If so, it should be listed as an available resolution
[10:27] <Frag> yes in windows
[10:28] <Frag> but i only get off sizes in ubuntu
[10:28] <theadmin> Frag: Okay, do you see it in available resolutions when you run "xrandr"?
[10:28] <Frag> how do i run xrandr?
[10:29] <theadmin> Frag: Open a terminal, type "xrandr" in
[10:30] <tomtomtom> ahhh ~ now it works but the speed still limit to 40k
[10:30] <tomtomtom> how to increase that ?
[10:30] <Frag> no i do not i only see 1280 x 768
[10:30] <tomtomtom> i remember once i set it somewhere to restrict the download speed
[10:31] <tomtomtom> 5k B/s is 40k right ?
[10:32] <Frag> is there a way i could add 1280 x 720?
[10:33] <theadmin> Frag: Yes, you have to list it in xorg.conf but uh, I'm not sure... Or you can try installing the video driver for your card, the propretiary one
[10:34] <Frag> i will look for video drivers, thank you
[10:35] <Frag> i also am having a problem trying to download teamviewer
[10:35] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Huh?
[10:36] <tomtomtom> serversage , it is now downloading the package info
[10:36] <tomtomtom> and the speed is at 5k B/s
[10:36] <theadmin> Frag: What's the problem? Download the Ubuntu .deb for your architecture at teamviewer.com
[10:36] <tomtomtom> how to increase that ?
[10:37] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: You can try a different mirror.
[10:37] <tomtomtom> all the same giving me this max speed
[10:37] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: You've tried every single mirror out there, and they all give you 5K/sec?  If so, you're on dial-up.
[10:37] <ThinkT510> tomtomtom: you said you limited it earlier, to lift the limit you'd need to tell us how you limited it in the first place
[10:38] <tomtomtom> a few months ago i was annoyed by the update manager hoggin the bandwidth so i limit the speed
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> Frag  http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx download the .deb, then install it
[10:38] <tomtomtom> but i forgot how to remove it
[10:38] <Frag> i did but when i try it install it. it opens sofrware center, and fails when trying to stall it
[10:39] <tomtomtom> i googled for the solution and then applied it but now i can't find it on google anymore
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> Frag  install it with gdebi, it's faster and easier
[10:39] <Guest84468> huh i failed to identify
[10:40] <Guest84468> nick name
[10:40] <tomtomtom> how many ways are there to limit the update manager speed ?
[10:40] <Guest84468> so they gave me guest number
[10:40] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Many.
[10:40] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Do you have a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/76download (or similar)?
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest84468  maybe it's already used by someone else, who registred it
[10:41] <Guest84468> hmm
[10:41] <Guest84468> possible
[10:41] <Guest84468> how r u monkey dust
[10:41] <tomtomtom> is there any way to check is the speed limited ?
[10:41] <Frag> how do i run gdebi
[10:41] <Guest84468> today is my first day on Xchat
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Frag  install it, right click on the teamviewer deb, open with gdebi
[10:42] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: You could start by answering my question.
[10:42] <Guest84468> :) tom tom tom
[10:42] <Guest84468> there r three toms
[10:42] <TomM2> o.o
[10:42] <ThinkT510> Guest84468: this is a support channel, for chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <Frag> do not have gdebi when i right click
[10:42] <Guest84468> oops
[10:43] <Guest84468> srry
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> Frag  install gdebi first
[10:43] <Guest84468> okie i have a question ThinkT510
[10:43] <Guest84468> whoom shd i refer to ?
[10:44] <tomtomtom> serversage yes i got that file
[10:44] <tomtomtom> and it is set to 5
[10:44] <fidel> Guest84468: to the channel
[10:44] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: There ya go.
[10:44] <ThinkT510> Guest84468: ask it here in the channel
[10:44] <tomtomtom> so what's the normal setting
[10:44] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: To delete that file.  Back it up first in case you want it in the future.
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> tomtomtom  try -1 for infinte
[10:45] <tomtomtom> -1 ? ok i try that
[10:45] <Guest84468> ok i have downloaded STA driver for BCM4313 chipset (broadcom) its able to get WL in monitor mode still inject proerty is not available
[10:45] <tomtomtom> thank guys i've been looking for it  all these while
[10:46] <ServerSage> tomtomtom: Took me like 30 seconds of googling to find it.  :P
[10:46] <tomtomtom> now i know 76download
[10:46] <tomtomtom> i google it for so long and could find it
[10:46] <tomtomtom> couldn't
[10:46] <ServerSage> https://www.google.com/search?q=limit+apt+speed&aq=f&oq=limit+apt+speed
[10:47] <Frag> where do i place the driver file for my video card
[10:48] <nibbler> Frag, normally you just install it using synaptic/apt, and don't place anything anywhere
[10:48] <Guest84468> can u help me with wireless driver i have STA driver for BCM4313 chipset ... the driver WL can be switched to monitor mode but sys dosenot support injection
[10:49] <Frag> all it is just a textfile
[10:49] <tomtomtom> guest84468 , can't find a nick and saw tom and jerry so i just type tomtomtom
[10:49] <tomtomtom> thanks guys
[10:49] <tomtomtom> brb
[10:49] <ServerSage> Frag: A textfile isn't going to work as a video driver.  :P
[10:50] <Frag> thats is what the site had for my video card
[10:50] <Guest84468> no help for me ?
[10:50] <ServerSage> Does the text file say anything?
[10:50] <ServerSage> Guest84468: If somebody has any experience with your problem they'll pipe in.
[10:51] <Guest84468> ok server sage thank u
[10:51] <ThinkT510> !b43 | Guest84468
[10:53] <Guest84468> yes B43 thibkT518
[10:53] <ThinkT510> !tab | Guest84468
[10:53] <nibbler> Frag, what is your videocard?  lspci |grep VGA
[10:54] <Frag> ati
[10:54] <Frag> the driver has a .run file in a zip file
[10:54] <Frag> ati radeon hd 6xx
[10:54] <ThinkT510> Frag: you shouldn't be downloading drivers from websites
[10:54] <nibbler> Frag, just do sudo apt-get install fglrx
[10:56] <nibbler> Frag, while you also *could* use the files you downloaded, you are not recommended to - in ubuntu everything is already preconfigured and tested, so if you use the drivers from the repository it'll be smoother most likely
[10:57] <Frag> what do i do after i install fglrx
[10:57] <ThinkT510> Guest84468: also you might find that some people are more willing to help if you change your nick away from the annoying guest nicks
[10:57] <nibbler> Frag, i guess a reboot would not hurt....
[10:58] <danilo> hi all
[10:58] <danilo> I'm new here, will read a bit
[10:59] <Frag> i have rebooted
[10:59] <nibbler> Frag, possibly "sudo aticonfig --initial --force" - i thought thats done automatically, but im not 10% sure anymore
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest84468  type /nick something_else
[11:00] <sachael> could anyone tell me if they have /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn that calls ../sleep.sh or ../sleepbtn.sh? I'm not sure if I added them but something is screwing up my suspend :(
[11:01] <nibbler> Frag, after wich another reboot (or restarting your display manager) might activate it
[11:01] <sachael> for that matter, do I need acpi?
[11:01] <nibbler> sachael, don't have any of those
[11:02] <nibbler> sachael, but the file is in the package acpi-support
[11:02] <sachael> nibbler: do you have acpi installed? see if you have the command "acpi", 12.04 btw
[11:02] <nibbler> no, don'thave it installed it seems
[11:03] <sachael> nibbler: thanks. it seems for some reason i have acpi installed. So possibly that is messing up my suspend/resume
[11:04] <ThinkT510> sachael: i doubt suspend/resume will work without acpi
[11:04] <Frag> thank you all for your great help, teamviewer has installed but display drivers will not
[11:05] <sachael> ThinkT510: wow, this is some sorta mess. I vaguelly recall installing acpi (or acpi-support) for whatever reason. apparently nvidia drivers need acpi
[11:05] <ThinkT510> sachael: acpi should've been installed by default
[11:05] <sachael> how were the open source nvidia drivers called? nouveau? do they work well with suspend?
[11:05] <ThinkT510> sachael: its machine dependent
[11:06] <ThinkT510> sachael: i've never used suspend or hibernate
[11:06] <sachael> great D: well, gotta hit google
[11:06] <ThinkT510> sachael: what is the output of lsmod
[11:07] <sachael> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/Tr2j3ZXk
[11:08] <scatterp> hi could anyone help me set up my webcam please i have a sew3035 i have tried in virtual box vmware and ubuntu with no luck so far ?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> scatterp  install cheese for your webcam, sudo apt-get install cheese
[11:09] <Fabiano> wow.. good memories using irc - havent using it for long years
[11:09] <colin_> greetings
[11:09] <scatterp> MonkeyDust, installed the cam is not visible there
[11:09] <ThinkT510> sachael: hmm, what hardware are you using? laptop?
[11:09] <sachael> ThinkT510: yes, HP Mini 311c
[11:10] <TJ-> sachael: I use suspend with nivida and nouveau without problems
[11:10] <sachael> TJ-: well, im not sure if it's the video, more like acpi, but nvidia is depenedent on acpi
[11:10] <sachael> im gonna restart to check out how it works now, brb
[11:10] <Fabiano> anyone from Brazil?
[11:11] <bkc_> scatterp: virtualbox? have you enabled usb-support?
[11:11] <colin_> i'm trying to install Ubuntu on an HP e-pc C10, problem is i have no blank cd-roms and the machine can only boot from USB-FDD but i only have a USB Flash drive, is it possible to format the flashdrive as a USB-FDD and initiate an Ubuntu install from it? maybe a net-install?
[11:11] <scatterp> bkc_, yes the webcam installs and the display is black
[11:12] <bkc_> colin_: yes
[11:12] <colin_> bkc_ any pointers? urls?
[11:13] <Fabiano> how are you?
[11:13] <ThinkT510> Fabiano: this is a support channel, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <scatterp> bkc_,  this seems to be a common problem the soloution is suppose to be to use vmware....
[11:14] <bkc_> scatterp: unetbootin or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick
[11:14] <colin_> was that meant for me?
[11:14] <scatterp> bkc_,  that wasnt for me right ?
[11:15] <bkc_> scatterp: sorry...
[11:15] <bkc_> colin_: yes :)
[11:16] <colin_> that only covers USB Mass Storage not USB-FDD
[11:16] <bkc_> colin_: also, under "Put the installer on...", note #9 as it is important :)
[11:16] <nibbler> colin_, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server - if you can boot from network
[11:16] <danilo> hi all, I've a problem with php5-imagick package, one of our server is running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS 64bit and it's serving php-generate pages (among other services) since 2010, everything is fine, but lately we needed to install imagemagick support for php as we need to add some features
[11:16] <bkc_> colin_: same stuff, different name :)
[11:16] <danilo> when I try in to install the php5-imagick package, it complains: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:16] <danilo>   php5-imagick: Depends: phpapi-20090626
[11:17] <danilo>  php5 --version                                                                                                          [/home/danilo]
[11:17] <danilo> PHP 5.2.10-2ubuntu6.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: May 21 2010 06:30:21)
[11:17] <danilo> I've tried some suggestions I've found on internet, with no luck
[11:17] <bkc_> scatterp: vmware doesn't solve anything is the hardware isn't supported by ubuntu...
[11:17] <nibbler> danilo, did you activate any 3rd party repos?
[11:17] <colin_> bkc_ well not really, the machine is usb1 not usb2.0 so it cant boot from usb mass storage, i would need to emulate a USB-FDD
[11:18] <danilo> @nibbler, I'm not sure, I check right now
[11:18] <colin_> nibbler: ill look into that, could work
[11:18] <scatterp> bkc_,  so what can i do ?
[11:18] <nibbler> colin_, first check if "network boot" is an option on your machine, if it is, it will work
[11:18] <colin_> it is
[11:19] <bkc_> colin_: try this one: http://www.pauljoyceuk.com/codex/2012/installing-ubuntu-from-usb-fdd/
[11:19] <danilo> @nibbler it doesn't seem so ( or are these 3rd-party deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main restricted
[11:19] <danilo> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main restricted
[11:19] <danilo> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security universe
[11:19] <danilo> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security universe
[11:19] <danilo> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security multiverse
[11:19] <FloodBot1> danilo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <danilo> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security multiverse
[11:19] <bkc_> scatterp: either write the driver yourself, or wait until someone does it for you :)
[11:19] <nibbler> colin_, good ;-) its basically: configure a dhcp server to provide the right extra options, set up an tftp server to supply the install image, all you need is found on the minimal netboot iso if i'm right - for that reason there might be some extra work necessary in the end (like "apt-get install gnome" ;)
[11:20] <wtommy55> I'm having trouble booting my Lubuntu installation. After I choose the OS and kernel in grub the screen goes black and just stays like that. No loading screen appears.
[11:20] <colin_> dont need gnome XD
[11:20] <danilo> ehm I flooded, I think I'm not using 3rd party-repos
[11:20] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | wtommy55
[11:20] <nibbler> wtommy55, remove the splash and quiet options from the kernel line (e in grub)
[11:20] <danilo> are http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner and similar third-party?
[11:21] <scatterp> ok thx
[11:21] <nibbler> danilo, these should be properly tested, was more concerned about PPAs or such
[11:22] <sachael> is pm-suspend the correct command to suspend from terminal?
[11:22] <beautiair> z eghkc
[11:22] <nibbler> sachael, at least i keep using it and it works well
[11:23] <TJ-> scatterp: It would be helpful if you could read the USB Vendor:Product ID from the sew3035's driver .inf file
[11:23] <danilo> @nibbler, thanks, I've seen that api-20090626 package is a virtual package provided by php5-cgi, php5-cli and similar, which I've already installed (
[11:23] <cat-orze> hi catalin, are you catalan?
[11:23] <danilo> (in fact php5 is working fine)
[11:24] <ThinkT510> danilo: drop the @ its not needed in irc and some clients won't highlight if you add it
[11:24] <sachael> ok, another question: is on vanilla ubuntu uswsusp installed?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> sachael  no
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> sachael  i never installed it manually and it isnt there, so no
[11:26] <bkc_> scatterp: could you paste the output of lsusb :)
[11:26] <sachael> lol, wtf was I doing on this laptop :D i hosed it pretty well
[11:26] <killerspec> hi
[11:27] <Hatori> hi killerspec
[11:27] <killerspec> Newbie here was wondering if anyone able to help me out
[11:27] <danilo> ThinkT510 thanks :)
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> killerspec  start xith a question
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> w
[11:29] <killerspec> I am trying to follow something I found on line about my wireless and it is say that I need to type something in a text edit all cool till I try save it into a file that it says I have no permission to use
[11:30] <IdleOne> killerspec: hit ALT+F2, in the box type: gksudo gedit /file/to/edit
[11:31] <killerspec> ok cool brb going to give it a bash
[11:31] <colin_> no dont use bash, use sudo :P
[11:31] <danilo> so, anybody have dealt with this phpapi-20090626 problem? (it won't install php5-imagick on 10.04.4 LTS because it's missing that virtual-package, but even reinstalling php5-cgi didn't help)
[11:32] <pio_> update from 8.10 to 12.04 - is this possible or should I reinstall?
[11:32] <bkc_> colin_: you'll need some form of SHell, might as well use the bundled bash ;)
[11:32] <ThinkT510> pio_: reinstall
[11:32] <cfhowlett> pio_: not possible reinstall
[11:32] <colin_> true ;)
[11:32] <pio_> thanks
[11:33] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: not so much "not possible" as "not worth the hassle"
[11:33] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp: OK - 6 of 1
[11:36] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: it would be a great way to spend a particularly dismal weekend, if you're into boredom and self-harm
[11:36] <Guest84468> hello gordon
[11:37] <colin_> no wonder it's not booting from USB, USB ports are not sourcing any power O_o just checked with a multimeter after i noticed the led on the usbdrive not lighting up
[11:37] <colin_> PoS machine
[11:38] <killerspec> Thanks a million Idleone that worked perfectly
[11:38] <IdleOne> sure thing
[11:38] <colin_> so it's either pxe or cdrom
[11:39] <bkc_> colin_: pxe, it's really simple actually :)
[11:40] <bkc_> I have a pxe-server @home just for installing computers. it also doubles as a mid-station repo (so I don't have to download the packages multiple times)
[11:40] <colin_> gotta pull some more cat6 first XD
[11:41] <bkc_> colin_: ;)
[11:42] <bkc_> colin_: cat5e works just as well thou :) but cat7 is awesome for installation (wiring-wise, not computer-installation)
[11:42] <colin_> i have cat6 in my whole appartment
[11:43] <cfhowlett> colin_: what?!  oh. cat 6 not .. nevermind
[11:43] <colin_> 90% of it is connected through a PoE switch
[11:44] <colin_> currently installing hardware and cabling for home-automation and security
[11:45] <colin_> this box is going to be a place holder for 1 of the servers handling physical frontdoor access and security
[11:46] <colin_> i <3 oss
[11:47] <colin_> at the moment my appartment looks more like a scifi movie set than an actual house
[11:47] <alison> salut
[11:47] <bkc_> colin_: ... paranoid much? ;)
[11:48] <ThinkT510> !fr | alison
[11:48] <alison> salut
[11:48] <alison> salut
[11:48] <belgianguy> my system is locking up lately, is there any way I can check what happened?
[11:48] <actionParsnip> belgianguy: check your RAM using memtest in Grub
[11:49] <colin_> bkc_ no not paranoid, just worried about insurance not covering a burglar being mauled by my dogs
[11:49] <belgianguy> actionParsnip: ah, ok, will do that first
[11:49] <ThinkT510> belgianguy: also check /var/log/syslog
[11:49] <bkc_> colin_: ooh :P pro-tip: get a better camera ;)
[11:49] <colin_> why would i need a better camera?
[11:49] <nibbler> colin_, usb power has to be requested by device/drive, only 50mA or such are there "for free"
[11:50] <bkc_> colin_: 640x480 ?
[11:50] <colin_> nibbler i know, but it should register 5v at all times
[11:50] <bkc_> nibbler: 500mA...
[11:50] <wtommy55> I tried removing "quiet" and "spash" and I added nomodeset as well. Lubuntu still goes to a black screen.
[11:50] <colin_> bkc_ not following
[11:50] <nibbler> bkc_, 500mA only if requested by the driver
[11:50] <bkc_> colin_: it could turn the power off thou, if it can't register anything on the port...
[11:51] <bkc_> nibbler: that's high-power-mode for usb3...
[11:51] <nibbler> wtommy55, try also adding noapic nolapic acpi=off lacpi=off (not sure which one is the right, but too many won't hurt)
[11:52] <wtommy55> nibbler, can I try them all at once?
[11:52] <colin_> might just get the actual server thats supposed to go in there ready and install an os on that
[11:52] <colin_> bkc_ but a camera wont do any good
[11:52] <colin_> would even be more evidence against the dogs
[11:52] <nibbler> bkc_, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Power
[11:52] <colin_> ;)
[11:52] <nibbler> wtommy55, you can
[11:53] <bkc_> colin_: never mind the camera-note... got you mixed up with the other guy ^^ support-channels >.<
[11:53] <bigbird> exit
[11:54] <colin_> bkc_ the thing is that i have 2 working dogs (malinois) that are supposed to be locked up when off-duty
[11:54] <bkc_> colin_: ooh... well... those dogs sure bite hard ^^ I've had a few :)
[11:55] <colin_> already had a break-in once where the 'burglar' removed the glass out of my front-door
[11:55] <colin_> didnt force anything
[11:56] <bkc_> removed that glass? o.O
[11:56] <ThinkT510> !ot | colin_
[11:56] <Gons31> cool stuf found today : http://bit.ly/PmHFVW
[11:56] <colin_> ThinkT510: yes sir!
[11:57] <colin_> bkc_ #ubuntu-offtopic if you're interested ;)
[11:58] <killerspec> Sorry to bug you all.... is there any good sites with information about wireless security ? I have a wireless modem at work and since I work right next door to student accomadation I keep getting unwelcome guests sucking the life from my net. A mate was saying something about aircrack-ng to help me find the weak points in my wireless.
[11:58] <colin_> killerspec hak5.org
[11:58] <killerspec> thanks colin
[11:59] <colin_> np
[11:59] <aguadito> killerspec - you're using what security? wep?
[11:59] <nibbler> Killeroid, use wpa enterprise encryption and you should be fine, unless you have gessable user/password - and of course check your servers certificate on authenticating
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Killerspec aircrack isn't suported here
[12:00] <colin_> nibbler wifi security is a bit offtopic and you can never be sure about malicious intent
[12:01] <nibbler> colin_, with these linux users you can never be sure about malicious intent.....
[12:01] <actionParsnip> killerspec: you can also use MAC filtering to help security
[12:05] <ZaNeIuM> i got a system on my network what is running win7 (all my media files) but every once in a wile (when i run newsleacher, or emule - perhaps turrents) all my linux devices no longer see my network/workgroup. it isnt untill i reboot the win system that then everything sees eachother - what causes this
[12:06] <D-Chymera> hi guys, why does shotwell make new "optimized" versions of my pics and displays those instead of the original? how can I stop it from doing that?
[12:07] <killerspec> I am using WPA2 security with a seriously random password made up of capitals lower cases numbers and what ever else I have on my keyboard. Problem with setting up MAC address filters (I think that is what its called) is that I do have random folks that need to use my net when they are in my business. By the way the password is 12 charaters long at this point I must also add that I am changing it at least once a month if not more
[12:08] <scatterp> killerspec, does it have wps enabled?
[12:09] <scatterp> can any one tell me how to identify which usb device is using which loaded module ?
[12:09] <killerspec> When it comes to aircrack-ng sorry I wasn't asking for support. To be honest it all sounds to involved to get into
[12:09] <Ben64> killerspec: that should be plenty to keep people out
[12:10] <TJ-> killerspec: Is it possible that *someone* has gained access to the web-based control panel of the router? When did you last rotate the admin password? Is it secure?
[12:11] <actionParsnip> scatterp: sudo lshw | less     use cursor to scroll down, it should show the driver to device link
[12:11] <killerspec> ummm what is wps ?
[12:11] <scatterp> actionParsnip, thx
[12:12] <actionParsnip> killerspec: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wps
[12:12] <killerspec> I change my admin password every friday afternoon
[12:14] <ThinkT510> killerspec: unless i'm missing something it sounds like you got a keylogger or rootkit
[12:14] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys.
[12:14] <killerspec> ok great
[12:14] <Shazer[2]> I downloaded flash from the adobe site.
[12:15] <Shazer[2]> And I'm given 3 things when extracted, and .so file, a README and a /usr/ file?
[12:15] <Shazer[2]> What do I do from there?
[12:15] <ThinkT510> !flash | Shazer[2]
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Shazer[2]  you don't need it from the site
[12:16] <actionParsnip> Shazer[2]: you copy the libflashplugin.so file to your browser's plugins folder
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> i found a cool firefox addon for flash alternative
[12:16] <TJ-> killerspec: What's the router? Maybe you can enhance the logging on it so it sends it to your Ubuntu system's syslogd ?
[12:16] <actionParsnip> Shazer[2]: or you can install it the easier way and use the repos
[12:16] <killerspec> is there some sort of program that can check if I have a keylogger or rootkit ? One that you can recommend
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  share it with the channel
[12:16] <actionParsnip> lotuspsychje: me too, chrome :)
[12:16] <Shazer[2]> alright actionParsnip will do.
[12:16] <Shazer[2]> :)
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> open with..addon+ SMplayer addon
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> so you can rightmouse a youtube and open with
[12:17] <aguadito> why doesn't my computer respect the dim settings i have?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> just need to add smplayer on the opwith addon list, does the trick
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> actionParsnip:what is your called?
[12:18] <actionParsnip> lotuspsychje: chrome
[12:18] <actionParsnip> lotuspsychje: it has flash built in, works well
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> actionParsnip: ah ic, does chromium too?
[12:19] <actionParsnip> lotuspsychje: no but you can hack the config to use the chrom plugin
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> actionParsnip:does chrome use adobe flash or own build-in version?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> !info chrome > lotuspsychje
[12:21] <actionParsnip> lotuspsychje: as far as I am aware, chrome will use the adobe flash if it is installed but will use it's own if not
[12:21] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: chrome isn't in the repos
[12:21] <geekbri> I thought chrome only used its own flash?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[12:21] <actionParsnip> geekbri: no, the flash plugin is proprietary, so isn't in the open source chromium
[12:21] <jolaren> Where is the standard location of user email? Root apparently has 200 gig mamil
[12:22] <jolaren> mail
[12:22] <geekbri> ah yes sorry, for Chromium yes, but for chrome it is different :)
[12:22] <geekbri> Chrome != Chromium :)
[12:22] <L3top> aguadito: is this a laptop?
[12:22] <actionParsnip> geekbri: similar though
[12:22] <geekbri> very much so yes
[12:23] <jolaren> root (112.68 GB in 1) ( I'd really like to remove the mail but dont know how)
[12:23] <Pici> jolaren: /var/spool/mail/
[12:24] <jolaren> thxx Pici 1
[12:24] <jolaren> Pici: Got any tips on seeing what filled it?
[12:25] <aguadito> L3top,  yes its a laptop
[12:25] <Pici> jolaren: nothing other than looking through the file
[12:25] <aguadito> and yes i have checked both plugged and unplugged settings
[12:26] <aguadito> no matter what if i walk away from my screen it goes dim despite the settings
[12:26] <TJ-> jolaren: See /var/log/mail*
[12:26] <jolaren> Pici: well couldt open it anyway
[12:26] <jolaren> TJ-: wll do that
[12:26] <Pici> jolaren: you'd need to use sudo
[12:27] <L3top> aguadito: so is this on startup as well? Or only on resume from sleep?
[12:28] <jolaren> Pici: I'm not re--rded!
[12:29] <digen> Hello
[12:29] <cfhowlett> digen: greetings
[12:29] <digen> Can anyone point me to a tested preseed Ubuntu 12.04 guide on the web ?
[12:29] <digen> cfhowlett: Greetings !
[12:30] <ouyes> digen, tested pressed?
[12:30] <digen> ouyes: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[12:31] <digen> ouyes: I've tried the instructions in the link but it doesn't work.
[12:32] <ouyes> digen, it is so simple to install, what version of installation are you using?
[12:32] <ouyes> digen, usb or cd?
[12:32] <ouyes> digen, desktop or server?
[12:32] <digen> ouyes: 12.04 Desktop using CD.
[12:33] <[x]> Abhijit->
[12:33] <[x]> [x]->
[12:33] <ouyes> digen, I have all kinds of installation of ubuntu
[12:34] <ouyes> digen, tell me what is your problem, where is wrong in your installation
[12:34] <abe_> help me
[12:35] <Pici> !ask | abe_
[12:35] <digen> ouyes: The automated installation never happens. The installer boots by default to prompt for installation instructions like language etc.
[12:35] <ouyes> ouyes, I always unplug the ethernet cable before installation, and also leave the network configuration blank
[12:35] <ouyes> digen, YOU MEAN text mode? no graphic?
[12:36] <digen> ouyes: In graphics mode without the automation.
[12:36] <Agalloch> Hi guys, can you please help me? Squirellmail: Error: Connection dropped by IMAP server: here are some logs: http://pastebin.com/BDqa3JCE
[12:36] <TJ-> digen: Which preseed method are you using?
[12:36] <L3top> !remaster | digen
[12:36] <digen> TJ-: File preseeding.
[12:36] <ouyes> digen, you need a few basic settings even in the automatic installation process
[12:37] <TJ-> digen: "/cdrom/preseed.cfg"  ?
[12:37] <abe_> I had a problem on ubuntu 12:04. My desktop can not enter. message connection to X server lost. please help
[12:37] <ouyes> digen, automation does not mean you just need to plug your cd into your cd drive and power the pc
[12:38] <ouyes> abe_, you update your vga driver?
[12:38] <abe_> yes
[12:38] <abe_> ouyes
[12:38] <[x]> :D
[12:38] <L3top> digen, you could remaster your own and seed it however you like, including partitioning scheme... but this is undesired behavior for most... so you would have to do it yourself.
[12:38] <abe_> my notebook asus 1225c
[12:39] <abe_> i install ubuntu 12.04
[12:40] <L3top> abe_: did it load X at one time? or did you never have X after install?
[12:40] <digen> TJ-: I'm specifying it as "file = /cdrom/preseed/myfile.seed"
[12:41] <abe_> L3top after install
[12:41] <ouyes> L3top, he or she got the failure after an update for the vga
[12:41] <TJ-> digen: Show us the complete kernel command-line you're using
[12:42] <extremis> bonjour
[12:42] <abe_> i install cedarview-drm and complete
[12:42] <ThinkT510> !fr | extremis
[12:42] <L3top> abe_: So it never had X, or it had X and updating your driver stopped it?
[12:44] <abe_> my update X is complete
[12:44] <L3top> abe_: what is your native language? Chances are this will go smoother in that.
[12:44] <abe_> L3top
[12:45] <Agalloch> Hi guys, can you please help me? Squirellmail: Error: Connection dropped by IMAP server: here are some logs: http://pastebin.com/BDqa3JCE
[12:45] <Iceman_B> um, where does the SSHd store it's config?
[12:45] <abe_> L3top indonesian
[12:45] <abe_> :(
[12:46] <dr_willis> Iceman_B:  system configs? /etc/sshd/ i think
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Iceman_B: /etc/ssdh usually
[12:46] <Iceman_B> oki, I'll have a look
[12:46] <Iceman_B> tnx
[12:46] <dr_willis> somewhere in /etc/
[12:46] <gordonjcp> */etc/sshd if I'm not being dyslexic
[12:46] <err-or> abe_: maybe #ubuntu-id is better. its an indonesian channel
[12:47] <L3top> !id | abe_
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Iceman_B: "dpkg -L openssh-server" will tell you more than you can possibly want to know
[12:48] <Iceman_B> gordonjcp: it returned about 40 lines of locations
[12:48] <Iceman_B> o_ô
[12:48] <dr_willis> and how many are in /etc/
[12:48] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:48] <Iceman_B> 15
[12:49] <Iceman_B> perhaps /etc/init/ssh.conf possible?
[12:49] <dr_willis> there ya go.  i dont recall the original question now...
[12:49] <TJ-> abe_'s problem was likely due to one of the cedarview-drm post-inst actions - it has to replace "lightdm.conf", but there can be problems apparently
[12:49] <Iceman_B> I want to fiddle with my SSHD config
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:49] <Iceman_B> ello BluesKaj
[12:49] <dr_willis> Iceman_B:  /etc/init is upstart stuff
[12:50] <dr_willis> Iceman_B:  /etc/sshd   would be where to look
[12:50] <TJ-> Iceman_B: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:50] <err-or> Iceman_B: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:50] <Iceman_B> err-or: thanks
[12:51] <gordonjcp> Iceman_B: yup, and from that you can probably work out what you're looking for
[12:51] <Iceman_B> strangely, "dpkg -L openssh-server" doesnt; point to any sshd directory
[12:51] <Iceman_B> but yeah, I knwo what I want to change so should be good
[12:52] <dr_willis>  perhaps its /etc/ssh  im on m y phone so cant look
[12:52] <gordonjcp> Iceman_B: somewhere in that lot you should see some files in /etc/sshd
[12:52] <dr_willis>  tab completion makes me lazy
[12:53] <TJ-> Iceman_B: That's correct - and you wouldn't want the package to contains any files for /etc/ssh/ either! Those files are generated by the post-install scripts and take account of pre-existing configuration files and keys
[12:53] <Iceman_B> TJ-: eeh, that;s too hard for me to follow :(
[12:53] <TJ-> Iceman_B: The package includes an example config: "/usr/share/doc/openssh-client/examples/sshd_config"
[12:54] <Iceman_B> all I know is that I have been upgrading this server over the years from release to release
[12:54] <dr_willis> the install process makes the config files....   ;)
[12:54] <Iceman_B> so maybe stuff got contaminiated or something
[12:54] <Iceman_B> but er got where I needed to go
[12:55] <TJ-> Iceman_B: Yes... each time the package is upgraded the package-manager and post-install scripts check for the existence of the configuration files, and check if there are changes needed. If so, the package-manager will offer choices (keep existing/replace/show diff)
[12:55] <Iceman_B> totally OT: playing Zelda music in the background makes this stuff feel more epic
[12:57] <scatterp> does any one know about porting drivers from mac to linux ?
[12:58] <ikonia> scatterp: totally different OS
[12:58] <actionParsnip> scatterp: is there no Linux driver for what you need?
[12:59] <Brustofski-Fan> How can i theme unity panel ... got the gtk theme changed need unity panel and window theme?
[13:00] <TJ-> scatterp: I sent you several messages earlier about that device but you didn't respond
[13:01] <TJ-> scatterp: It would be helpful if you could tell us the USB Vendor:Product ID of the device. If you've plugged it in on Ubuntu "lsusb" will show it. I'm looking at the Windows driver .inf file and there are 5 different IDs used in that product
[13:02] <biopyte> hi, i'm running a gnome desktop with 3x3 workspaces on a notebook. my idea is to connect another monitor, so i have 2 hardware displays. the notebook display should keep the 3x3 workspace,  the exernal screen displays a different desktop and works somehow as a system monitor. i think thats almost impossible to do, but I ask you, just in case ... any idea?
[13:03] <TJ-> biopyte: configure it as multiple X sessions. Easy to do with the Nvidia X Settings tool, can't tell you about the ATI option
[13:03] <biopyte> TJ-, thanks, multiple X ... get it. i have intel onboard graphics here.
[13:04] <sachael> long shot but, anyone got to change menu shortcuts in ROX in 12.04? The old methods with gconf-editor and gtkc-2.0 aren't working anymore
[13:04] <biopyte> TJ-, so, basically you got my idea and you think i can do that?
[13:04] <TJ-> biopyte: Not sure how to do it with the 'standard' display configuration app... You may have to resort to creating a custom xorg.conf
[13:04] <actionParsnip> sachael: is there not a conf file for it?
[13:04] <TJ-> biopyte: I used to do it myself, but now I find xinerama more useful as I want to drag windows from one display to another
[13:05] <biopyte> ok, cool
[13:05] <sachael> actionParsnip: sadly no, you have to enable can-chance-accels and manually do it, but that gtkrc option doesn't seem to work anymore
[13:06] <biopyte> i need one flexible working environment and one static system monitor ... you got the idea.   thanks
[13:06] <digen> TJ: http://pastebin.com/fNX3B06w
[13:06] <sachael> actionParsnip: oh wait, there is a config file. Weird, it was never promoted, only a much harder way was shown
[13:06] <actionParsnip> sachael: http://roscidus.com/desktop/node/163  may help
[13:07] <resuremade> Good day. How can I open port 2777? I've used uhw (sudo uhw allow 2777), but I still can't connect to it (that port is used by irssi proxy)
[13:07] <TJ-> digen: As I understood it, you also need to pass the "auto" option don't you?
[13:07] <Brustofski-Fan> How do i theme unity?
[13:07] <sachael> actionParsnip: yeah, i found those files. It used to be that you had to do some black magic to change accelerator keys, even google still returns that as result
[13:08] <Iceman_B> okay differnet question
[13:09] <actionParsnip> sachael: try in #rox
[13:09] <Iceman_B> whats a good tool to quickly and securely wipe an hdd?
[13:09] <Iceman_B> I need to turn in a laptop
[13:09] <aguadito> rm -rf *
[13:09] <actionParsnip> !danger
[13:09] <actionParsnip> !ops | aguadito
[13:09] <ThinkT510> Iceman_B: dd (not quick though)
[13:09] <aguadito> wat
[13:10] <digen> TJ-:  Can you shed more light on it or give an example ?
[13:10] <aguadito> actionParsnip, emergency? relax man
[13:10] <Iceman_B> aguadito: I said wipe, not delete files
[13:10] <Iceman_B> but thanks for thinking with me
[13:10] <actionParsnip> aguadito: users run commands from here, running that command is highly destructive
[13:10] <TJ-> Iceman_B: "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX" where X is the device you're wiping. That'll fill it with pseudo-random data. For a faster option you can zero the drive with "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX"
[13:11] <aguadito> he asked how to wipe a hdd that will do it
[13:11] <ferni> Iceman_B: shred
[13:11] <actionParsnip> Iceman_B: you can use dban or dd on an unmounted partition
[13:11] <aguadito> yea sudo shred is good too
[13:11] <aguadito> sudo dd
[13:11] <Iceman_B> actionParsnip: I';ll check out DBAN, thanks
[13:11] <TJ-> digen: The documentation you linked to earlier tells you. For an automatic install the option "auto " followed by one of the other options such as "url|file|priority|..." is requred
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Iceman_B  in a terminal, type apt-cache show wipe
[13:13] <Iceman_B> MonkeyDust: what does the command do?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> you can find out, by typing what I just suggested
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Iceman_B  it thoroughly erases disks
[13:15] <Iceman_B> I assume it wont wipe my disk immediately?
[13:15] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: That's amazing! Never knew apt-cache was that powerful :p
[13:15] <woosim> hello I just restarted my computer and somehow I can't do anything in the sound settings. Seems like he doesn't recognize my soundcard anymore. It worked fine before I restarted. Might this be connected with some of the last updates? Did anybody experience similar issuesor does anybody have an advice on what to do?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, perhaps a warning is in order in the same sentence as the command
[13:15] <woosim> I'm using the current ubuntu btw
[13:15] <TJ-> Iceman_B: "apt-cache show" gives you details of the named package, in that case, "wipe"
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  we're here to learn :)
[13:15] <Iceman_B> thanks
[13:15] <Iceman_B> thats what I wanted to know
[13:16] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: next time I want to erase a disk I'll use apt-cache :D
[13:16] <Iceman_B> ah sorry, I forgot to mention, this is a triple-boot laptop I need to erase
[13:17] <Iceman_B> so I'll probably use a DBAN
[13:17] <Brustofski-Fan> I changed the gtk theme but now how do i change the ugly black panel and window boarder????
[13:17] <klawd_prime> hi! i have some problems with my aptitude. it always wants me to uninstall most of my packages. is there a way to clean the configs?
[13:17] <TJ-> Iceman_B: If you're wiping the entire hard drive you'd refer to it by its device name, e.g. "/dev/sdx". If you want to wipe a single partition, you'd do e.g. "/dev/sdXY" where that is device X, partition Y
[13:17] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | klawd_prime
[13:17] <swmy> klawd_prime: apt-get autoremove?
[13:18] <Iceman_B> TJ-: no, everything needs to go
[13:18] <Iceman_B> MFT, MBR, everything
[13:18] <TJ-> Iceman_B: Then the form "/dev/sdX" is the one to address the device
[13:18] <actionParsnip> klawd_prime: i suggest you use apt-get in future
[13:19] <klawd_prime> actionParsnip: dude.
[13:19] <klawd_prime> actionParsnip: can debian guys please figure out their goddamn package management?
[13:19] <klawd_prime> im on a friends PC and I always have problems with the packages
[13:19] <klawd_prime> some people use aptitude, some apt-get and some both
[13:19] <klawd_prime> and everybody says their way is the best
[13:19] <actionParsnip> klawd_prime: its still dpkg doing the work.
[13:19] <Vide> hi, using the cron resource, how can I put the cronjobs in separated and dedicated tabs in /etc/cron.d, not in the user's crontab?
[13:20] <klawd_prime> and it always seems to screw everything up
[13:20] <digen> TJ-:  Isn't the auto option only when specifying URL ?
[13:20] <actionParsnip> klawd_prime: apt-get can manage multiarch, which ubuntu is now
[13:20] <Vide> I thought about "target" but it doesn't work that way
[13:20] <klawd_prime> it is now. but broken?
[13:20] <Vide> hi sorry wrong channel :D
[13:20] <actionParsnip> klawd_prime: why do you think nearly 100%  of the Ubuntu official guides use apt-get?
[13:20] <TJ-> digen: "auto 	auto-install/enable"
[13:20] <actionParsnip> klawd_prime: try:   sudo apt-get -f install
[13:20] <klawd_prime> will, hold on
[13:21] <klawd_prime> lookin good, thanks actionParsnip
[13:21] <randomDude> can i reset iptables rules by editing a file? or does it have to be done on an online machine with commands ?
[13:22] <y4h0> ls
[13:22] <y4h0> he
[13:22] <y4h0> hey
[13:22] <woosim> nobody any idea what to do if the sound is just gone after a reboot?
[13:22] <actionParsnip> randomDude: http://pikt.org/pikt/samples/reset_iptables.html
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> randomDude  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[13:22] <TJ-> randomDude: If the rules are saved/loaded to/from a file, you can edit that file ready for next boot/reload. You can change active rules using the "iptables" command
[13:23] <digen> TJ-:  DM ?
[13:23] <actionParsnip> woosim: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds then try sound things
[13:23] <designbybeck> woosim: did you try to reboot and/or shutdown restart one more time ?
[13:23] <designbybeck> or that ;)
[13:23] <gry> y4h0, hi
[13:23] <randomDude> TJ-: is this just an assumption of yours? or do you know the file from which IPtables loads its rules from ?
[13:23] <woosim> the weird thing is that I can still see settings in the alsamixer from the bash
[13:23] <designbybeck> actionParsnip: might something like that cause 12.10 to only play mono sound?
[13:24] <actionParsnip> designbybeck: Quantal isn't supported here
[13:24] <designbybeck> i only have sound coming out of one speaker on my netbook after putting 12.10 better 2 on there
[13:24] <TJ-> randomDude: The file that rules are saved to depends on what 'firewall' package(s) the system is using - different packages will save to different files.
[13:24] <actionParsnip> designbybeck: ask in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[13:24] <designbybeck> well no one ansered on +1
[13:24] <designbybeck> when is release day?
[13:24] <designbybeck> 26th
[13:24] <designbybeck> ?
[13:24] <actionParsnip> designbybeck: doesn't make it supported here
[13:24] <actionParsnip> designbybeck: I'm in the channel
[13:24] <ikonia> designbybeck: you never asked in +1
[13:25] <TJ-> randomDude: "iptables" is just a configuration tool for the kernel's netfilters; other tools can change the rules too without needing "iptables"
[13:25] <ikonia> lies don't go down well
[13:25] <actionParsnip> designbybeck: please respect the channelpolicies
[13:25] <designbybeck> it was a week or so ago ikonia and actionParsnip
[13:25] <ikonia> designbybeck: then try again in the correct channel if you've not asked for over a week
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> designbybeck  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule    in  hongkong it's 12h later than in new york
[13:25] <designbybeck> Thank you MonkeyDust
[13:26] <randomDude> TJ-: I'm I actually using zentyal, which had a rule to only allow ssh access from a specific ip address. I no longer have access to that IP address, but I do have the server offline with its harddrive attached to a recovery machine... I just need to reset the firewall rules
[13:26] <randomDude> TJ-: I just assumed zentyal-firewall was manipulating IPtable commands
[13:26] <TJ-> randomDude: Ahhh OK. My guess would be there's a file under /etc/ someplace with the rules saved into it.
[13:28] <TJ-> randomDude: The search oracle tells me you'd be looking in /etc/zentyal/hooks/ ... my guess is searching for port 22 would find it: "egrep -rn 22 /etc/zentyal/*"
[13:31] <theplanet> im trying to remove all the extra kubuntu-desktop packaged installed and start using lxde
[13:32] <theplanet> but apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop is not removing anything else but something called "ubuntu-dekstop"
[13:32] <theplanet> i want all the K* apps deleted too!
[13:32] <ikonia> theplanet: it's a metapacakge
[13:32] <theplanet> ikonia, how do i do waht i want to do, please
[13:34] <IdleOne> !purelxde
[13:34] <theplanet> damn
[13:34] <theplanet> you have a trigger for every scenario
[13:34] <IdleOne> almost
[13:34] <ikonia> theplanet: what do you actually want to do
[13:34] <theplanet> that seems to require a default lubuntu system while i have a default kubuntu system
[13:34] <bipul> Any one here who has used Tivoli in ubuntu  for network monitoring  perpose.
[13:34] <theplanet> ikonia, i want what !purelxde explained
[13:35] <actionParsnip> theplanet: just remove all the package names with kde in them, the rest will remove itself
[13:35] <IdleOne> theplanet: install lubuntu-desktop and then follow the intrucstions in the link the bot gave you
[13:35] <actionParsnip> theplanet: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep kde | awk {'print $2'}`
[13:35] <actionParsnip> theplanet: gets rid of all KDE apps :)
[13:36] <theplanet> actionParsnip, thanks½
[13:36] <theplanet> !
[13:36] <IdleOne> that way would work also but will leave you without a GUi after reboot, which is why i suggest you install lubuntu-desktop first (can be installed afterwards though)
[13:37] <bipul> Any one here who has used Tivoli in ubuntu  for network monitoring  perpose.? :(
[13:37] <L3top> !anyone | bipul
[13:38] <actionParsnip> bipul: we used to use it where I work. We moved to HP openview
[13:38] <bipul> Does Any one here who has used Tivoli in ubuntu  for network monitoring  perpose.? :( *
[13:38] <bipul> actionParsnip,  :) can you help me in it
[13:40] <actionParsnip> bipul: not use Tivoli under Linux, sorry
[13:42] <bipul> actionParsnip,  can i pm you ?
[13:42] <actionParsnip> bipul: sure
[13:42] <bipul> actionParsnip,  Thank's alot
[13:42] <shankar> hellO!
[13:42] <shankar> anyone here?
[13:42] <shankar> hello!
[13:43] <actionParsnip> shankar: nobody here at all
[13:43] <shankar> <Respond >
[13:43] <shankar> respond>>>
[13:43] <shankar> respond please>>
[13:43] <shankar> dark
[13:43] <shankar> respond dark
[13:44] <twitchie> !patience | shankar
[13:44] <designbybeck> when trying to find out if a program is running or not "ps aux | grep PROGRAMNAME
[13:44] <designbybeck> " does the aux show all processes?
[13:44] <shankar> okay! my bad! sorry!
[13:44] <shankar> That forum didnt help!
[13:45] <shankar> I am waiting>>>
[13:46] <twitchie> shankar: what seems to be the problem?
[13:46] <TJ-> designbybeck: That's BSD syntax, but yes, it should. Unix/Linux syntax would be "-efly"
[13:46] <Guest90288> can we upate to 12.10 beta 2 from 12.04
[13:46] <shankar> regarding USB boot of ubuntu 11.10
[13:47] <designbybeck> TJ-:  oh?!  ... so ps -efly | grep NAME
[13:47] <twitchie> designbybeck: ps --help    or man ps
[13:47] <shankar> I've used the software UNetbootin and mount the iso of ubuntu 11.10 on a flash drive..
[13:47] <twitchie> !details | shankar
[13:47] <designbybeck> looking now twitchie
[13:47] <kayak> Hi!
[13:48] <sunk8> Hey shankar I missed your question, what was it please?
[13:48] <shankar> and all i see is an underscore beeping on a black screen
[13:49] <sunk8> Shankar do you want to test Ubuntu 11.10 on a computer or just boot it from a USB?
[13:49] <shankar> anyone here apart from join and leave logs??
[13:49] <yellamo> http://www.reddit.com/r/Images/comments/10q24o/the_real_jesus_christ_is_alive/
[13:49] <shankar> test ubuntu 11.10
[13:49] <yellamo> http://www.reddit.com/r/Images/comments/10q24o/the_real_jesus_christ_is_alive/
[13:49] <shankar> on the computer
[13:50] <AdminByDay> Has anyone on this channel gotten multipathing working successfully with a Nexsan DATABeast in either Hardy or Lucid?  It's got me pulling my hair.
[13:50] <sunk8> Oh! Why don't you boot from the ISO file saved on a hard disk? Shankar
[13:50] <designbybeck> twitchie: when I -aux instead of just aux It told me this: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[13:50] <shankar> I want a standalone ubuntu 11.10 installed on my computer...
[13:50] <twitchie> designbybeck: yeah dont put the - in
[13:50] <daniele_> connect calvino.freenode.net
[13:50] <daniele_> \connect calvino.freenode.net
[13:50] <sunk8> What's the preferred partition table shankar?
[13:51] <designbybeck> but that is the BSD without correct?
[13:51] <TJ-> designbybeck: BSD doesn't precede options with the "-"
[13:51] <aguadito> why does ubuntu not respect my power settings?!?
[13:51] <shankar> I'm not getting the installer options post restarting.
[13:51] <dark_> \connect
[13:51] <aguadito> it dims/suspends after like 5-10 min despite me saying to never do anything for any
[13:51] <sunk8> shankar I used this webpage to install 12.10 beta 2 on my computer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[13:51] <dark_> anybody here me
[13:51] <twitchie> dark_: it is /connect servername
[13:51] <designbybeck> so some commands can be used without the - but some can't TJ- ?
[13:52] <TJ-> aguadito: What GPU does it have?
[13:52] <actionParsnip> sunk8: 12.10 isn't supported here util release day
[13:52] <sunk8> unetbootin gave me a lot of trouble there are several alternatives
[13:52] <x-CupCake-x> hello?
[13:52] <dark_> grub2 final or not
[13:52] <shankar> I've made a USB installer buddy.. and I want to run ubuntu 11.10 installer from this bootable flash drive....
[13:53] <twitchie> designbybeck: correct like "ps a" and "ps -A" if you do "ps --help" it will show you the options
[13:53] <TJ-> designbybeck: No, the "ps" command is available on multiple operating systems and on, say, BSD, it expects different options. The program is built to accept three options forms: BSD, Unix, and GNU
[13:53] <sunk8> actionparsnip: I was just giving an example
[13:53] <dark_> \msg dark grub2
[13:53] <shankar> I configured the bios settings and enabled USB booting.. doesnt work..
[13:53] <aguadito> tj - it has nvidea or smth
[13:53] <sunk8> shankar the Ubuntu USB creator worked best for me when unetbootin gave problems
[13:53] <ziggyzero> Hi can somebody help me with installing mod_proxy_html v3.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:54] <TJ-> aguadito: It's possible the GPU hardware itself is dimming the screen, or else it could be a part of the ACPI firmware
[13:54] <aguadito> TJ - it doesn't do this in windows...
[13:54] <ziggyzero> I think I have v3.0 -- how can I check the installed version via apt-get?
[13:54] <shankar> All i get is an underscore on the black screen.. goddamn! I tried the alternate SW from the pendrivelinux.com to make the bootable USB too...
[13:54] <dark_> problem install ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootbin  after installing grub2 doesn;t load
[13:54] <Pici> dark_ : Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:54] <TJ-> aguadito: Window's isn't Linux - it uses different drivers that 'know' different things about the hardware in many instances
[13:54] <dark_> problem install ubuntu 12.10 beta 2 using unetbootbin  after installing grub2 doesn;t load
[13:55] <ThinkT510> dark_: /join #ubuntu+1
[13:55] <dark_> tanks
[13:55] <shankar> I tried NOT using UNetbootin too earlier.. didnt work..
[13:55] <actionParsnip> dark_: it says when you join the channel....
[13:55] <TJ-> shankar: The blinking cursor tells us that the boot-loader isn't being found although the MBR boot-strap code is. Booting is a 3 stage process.. that system is stuck between stages 1 and 2
 you still on?
[13:56] <sunk8> shankar: which system did you use to create the bootable drive? Cause unetbootin runs on most systems
[13:56] <actionParsnip> shankar: what video chip do you use, and which release?
[13:56] <shankar> So what do i need to do now?
[13:56] <ziggyzero> Hi can somebody help me with installing mod_proxy_html v3.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:56] <ziggyzero> I think I have v3.0 -- how can I check the installed version via apt-get?
[13:56] <actionParsnip> !info mod_proxy_html
[13:56] <aguadito> i figured out what it is, new ubuntu has an invisible screensaver
[13:56] <ziggyzero> sorry for spamming
[13:56] <twitchie> ziggyzero: apt-cache show packagename
[13:56] <aguadito> so it wasn't dimming, it was a blank-screensaver
[13:56] <shankar> windows..
[13:56] <ikonia> ziggyzero: do you mean the package module ?
[13:56] <aguadito> smart ubuntu...
[13:56] <Pici> ziggyzero: why do you need 3.1 over 3.0?
[13:56] <truexfan81> are the devs aware that bestbuy is selling copies of ubuntu?
[13:56] <shankar> I'm on win XP now..
[13:57] <truexfan81> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/561696_3754848196198_1485914281_n.jpg
[13:57] <actionParsnip> ziggyzero: dpkg -l  | grep mod_proxy
[13:57] <actionParsnip> shankar: so how is this an ubuntu isue if you are using windows?
[13:57] <shankar> My config matches the minimum requirements of the ubuntu 11.10 version...yet a failed soul here!
[13:57] <ziggyzero> Because I am seeing the following error when starting apache2.2 "Invalid command 'ProxyHTMLEnable', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration"
[13:58] <shankar> Let me explain>>>>
[13:58] <actionParsnip> shankar: can you please answer rather than writing worthless emotional stuff
[13:58] <TJ-> truemove: Old news! http://blog.canonical.com/2008/07/09/canonical-and-valusoft-bring-ubuntu-plus-support-to-best-buy/
[13:58] <actionParsnip> shankar: which video chip and which release of Ubuntu?
[13:58] <babilen> ziggyzero: Is libapache2-mod-proxy-html installed and enabled? (a2enmod)
[13:58] <TJ-> truexfan81: old news! http://blog.canonical.com/2008/07/09/canonical-and-valusoft-bring-ubuntu-plus-support-to-best-buy/
[13:58] <Pici> ziggyzero: Did you actually enable mod_proxy_html after installing it?
[13:58] <sunk8> shankar use Universal USB Installer available at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3 and LiveUSB Install available at the http://live.learnfree.eu/download
[13:58] <shankar> I'm on winXP now. I got sick of XP and I want a stanalone ubuntu 11.10 installed on my very system I'm talking to you from.
[13:58] <BadDream> where do i go to purchase ubuntu?
[13:58] <ziggyzero> I trying to proxy to an internal web server that uses absolute paths
[13:58] <enapupe> Anyone has an easy explanation why some <super> combination work and some don't? I set SUPER+ D to show desktop, works fine, Super+L to lock screen wont.
[13:58] <sunk8> shankar a CD would be great
[13:59] <ThinkT510> !install | shankar
[13:59] <sunk8> or you could use one of these programs to create a usb (bootable): Universal USB Installer available at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3 and LiveUSB Install available at the http://live.learnfree.eu/download website
[13:59] <shankar> IntelD845GVSR
[13:59] <BadDream> i need to buy a copy of ubuntu because its cheaper than windows
[13:59] <matts1lver> hi, can anyone help with a spam filtering issue on mail server
[13:59] <actionParsnip> shankar: then boot to the Ubuntu install media and you can remove XP and install Ubuntu as the sole OS
[13:59] <matts1lver> need help filtering mail to spam folder
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> BadDream  free is cheaper than .001 dolar
[13:59] <babilen> matts1lver: Just ask your real question and assume that "somebody" can help you with your problem.
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> shankar, After you downloaded it but, before you copied to USB, did you md5sum the ubuntu ISO?
[13:59] <BadDream> no ubuntu isnt free
[14:00] <actionParsnip> BadDream: if you download it, it's even cheaper than if you buy it
[14:00] <lJ6il> BadDream: you don't have to buy it. It's free.
[14:00] <BadDream> its for sale ins tores
[14:00] <ziggyzero> When I run a2dismod I see proxy proxy_html proxy_http in the list so I assume it's enabled
[14:00] <TJ-> BadDream: Ubuntu is 'free' as in beer as well as being 'free' as in libre open-source for modification and distribution
[14:00] <shankar> Now you are talking! That is what i need! to install ubuntu as the sole OS!
[14:00] <actionParsnip> !download | BadDream
[14:00] <BadDream> omgawdzorz
[14:00] <TJ-> BadDream: Support for Ubuntu is sold as part of a package sometimes
[14:00] <babilen> ziggyzero: Is it in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ?
[14:00] <enapupe> matts1lver: which e-mail server? you shall try the software channel support
[14:00] <actionParsnip> BadDream: its free, people may charge for it but you can download it for free
[14:00] <shankar> no i didnt md5sum the iso!
[14:00] <BadDream> awesomesauce
[14:00] <babilen> ziggyzero: Or rather: s/in/linked from/
[14:00] <actionParsnip> !free | BadDream
[14:00] <lJ6il> BadDream: you can buy some here : http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[14:00] <LorSamPau_w> is there a way to disable completely automatic force hdd check after sudden reboot?
[14:00] <sunk8> shankar: to install Ubuntu as the main OS 1] Backup your stuff 2] Boot from a CD
[14:01] <matts1lver> enapupe: i followed this post http://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[14:01] <sunk8> shankar: if you don't have a CD, use an alternative to unetbooting
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | shankar
[14:01] <BadDream> if i buy ubuntu does the money still go to bill gates?
[14:01] <matts1lver> enapupe: email is working just fine, however spam emails are immediatly deleted
[14:01] <twitchie> !fsck | LorSamPau_w
[14:01] <shankar> u say USB boot is a glitch.. okay. will install from the cd..
[14:01] <actionParsnip> BadDream: no, it goes to the person who downloaded the FREE ISO and burned it
[14:02] <BadDream> =(
[14:02] <matts1lver> enapupe: I would like them to be filtered into the users spam folder
[14:02] <LorSamPau_w> twitchie, that doesn't help
[14:02] <ziggyzero> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33 Oct  1 14:24 proxy_html.conf -> ../mods-available/proxy_html.conf
[14:02] <ziggyzero> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33 Oct  1 14:24 proxy_html.conf -> ../mods-available/proxy_html.load
[14:02] <actionParsnip> BadDream: no, it goes to the person who downloaded the FREE ISO and burned it. Bill Gates is no part of Ubuntu
[14:02] <shankar> and I have downloaded the version from ubuntu.org.
[14:02] <BadDream> why for i got made to leave
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> shankar, If the ISO is bad, won't matter which you try, USB or CD, neither will work.
[14:02] <sunk8> shankar: usb boot is not always glitchy. but Windows XP (on which you used unetbootin) might have played a bit with the usb media
[14:02] <LorSamPau_w> BadDream, the money goes to international terrorism
[14:02] <ziggyzero> I have links to the module
[14:03] <BadDream> omg dont be silly its against the rules of linux....sillyness is punished by being ostracized from #ubuntu
[14:03] <sunk8> shankar: i agree with sidewinder1 you better check the MD% of the ISO and then use an alterative to unetbootin or a CD
[14:03] <ikonia> BadDream: correct, so stop being silly
[14:03] <sunk8> shankar: CDs rock
[14:03] <shankar> I've downloaded it from ubuntu.org
[14:03] <actionParsnip> BadDream: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/   get the ISO and MD5 test it, then burn to CD or use unetbootin to put it on an SD card or USB stick
[14:03] <enapupe> matts1lver: I see. you should look at spamassassin's documentation
[14:03] <resuremade> What is correct way to open a port in Ubuntu Server 10.04?
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> shankar, Md5sum that ISO and make sure the hashes match.
[14:04] <BadDream> ya cause god forbid sillyness invades irc or that omg a linux is silly cause then that would be anarchy
[14:04] <actionParsnip> resuremade: they are all open by default
[14:04] <shankar> I agree sunk..but this has to be corrected right!
[14:04] <ikonia> BadDream: correct, so I'll ask you one more time. Please stop.
[14:04] <shankar> the error must be found out..
[14:04] <actionParsnip> BadDream: please read what I wrote
[14:04] <shankar> ok i will do that! stay on!
[14:04] <BadDream> ikonia can i borrow yur stick so i may insert it in my butt please?
[14:04] <actionParsnip> resuremade: if you are using a home grade router, you will need to port forward there
[14:04] <sunk8> shankar: If you have viruses on your XP, chances are that the USB was tampered with before you ejected it
[14:05] <resuremade> actionParsnip: So, it looks like I've installed firewall, but I can't remember what and when
[14:05] <matts1lver> enapupe: any specific area to focus on?
[14:05] <shankar> no there isnt any virus !
[14:05] <resuremade> actionParsnip: no, it's vps
[14:05] <shankar> I'm sure bout it!
[14:05] <enapupe> matts1lver: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/postfix-dovecot-spamassassin-spam-to-a-spam-folder-527846/
[14:05] <actionParsnip> resuremade: probably ufw or iptables
[14:05] <enapupe> matts1lver: http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/spam-assassin-spam-folder-question-70135.html
[14:05] <actionParsnip> !virus | shankar
[14:05] <resuremade> actionParsnip: I want to open 2777 port for irssi prox, but ufw doesn't work
[14:06] <resuremade> actionParsnip: I tried `sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 2777 -j ACCEPT` and `udo ufw allow 2777`
[14:06] <ikonia> resuremade: disable ubuntu firewall, then test it
[14:06] <ikonia> get it working, then put your firewall back
[14:06] <resuremade> ikonia: sudo service stop ...?
[14:06] <matts1lver> enapupe: thanks I shall take a look, the cpanel one doesn't seem very relevant tho
[14:06] <ikonia> resuremade: that works
[14:07] <enapupe> resuremade: sudo ufw disable
[14:07] <sachael> i've been using fluxbox for years now. Would awesome or xmonad be more suitable for tiling-wm newbie? I'm coder so any weird config methods don't scare me, but I'm wondering which one is more friendly feature-wise?
[14:07] <matts1lver> enapupe: also it goes in to mysql, wasn't sure if that made a difference
[14:07] <shankar> md5sum is tagged
[14:07] <nibbler> resistivecorpse, if you -A a rulte to INPUT, you append it - if there is any earlier rule dropping it, its still gone
[14:08] <enapupe> matts1lver: what kind of webmail are you using?
[14:08] <matts1lver> roundcube
[14:08] <shankar> i just verified it
[14:08] <nibbler> resuremade, if you -A a rulte to INPUT, you append it - if there is any earlier rule dropping it, its still gone
[14:08] <matts1lver> enapupe: roundcube
[14:09] <bonno> hi i freshed install xubuntu 12.04 (deleting previous edition) and for some reason when booting grub dosent start and i am getting a command promt "grub rescue>"..what is that?
[14:09] <shankar> there?/
[14:09] <sunk8> bonno try a nomodeset
[14:09] <bonno> alongside with an error "cant find some device"
[14:09] <shankar> Hello!
[14:10] <sunk8> Hi shankar
[14:10] <bonno> i solved the problem from bios settings.. but what was that?
[14:10] <resuremade> nibbler: how can I see earlier rules?
[14:10] <bonno> i changed hard-disk device priority and everything is normal..
[14:10] <nibbler> resuremade, iptables -n -L -v
[14:10] <nibbler> resuremade, iptables -n -v -L INPUT
[14:10] <shankar> yeah..hi again. so ?
[14:10] <shankar> where are we now on this issue?
[14:10] <bonno> but i never got such message..so..
[14:10] <resuremade> ikonia, enapupe: I've disabled ufw, but it still doesn't work
[14:11] <enapupe> resuremade: so it's not a firewall issue?
[14:11] <sambagirl> morning. i installed another linux os earlier and i already had 10.04 and windows partitions. apparantly the other os has grub 1 and i was told that ubuntu 10.04 uses grub 2? regardless, the grub menu does not provide an option to select ubuntu to load.  any ideas on how i can get ubuntu to boot and/or add to the menu and/or if i delete the other os partiton will i mess myself up thanks. i like the build i cuurently have for 10.04 the config
[14:11] <sambagirl> is perfect for my requirements so i really need to preserve it. any suggestions?
[14:11] <resuremade> enapupe: maybe it's iptables?
[14:11] <enapupe> resuremade: ufw = iptables
[14:11] <ikonia> resuremade: right, so it's not your firewall then
[14:11] <enapupe> resuremade: it is a simplified iptables interface
[14:11] <shankar> I checked the md5sum and its okay.. now what?
[14:11] <nibbler> resuremade, just nopaste: iptables -n -v -L INPUT; iptables -n -v -L OUTPUT
[14:12] <bonno> sunk8 can you private me so i can ask u a few things if you have time please
[14:12] <TJ-> resuremade: Can you connect to the port locally? Make sure the process is listening on the port
[14:12] <enapupe> matts1lver: I can't help you any more matts1lver
[14:12] <resuremade> nibbler: http://i.imgur.com/b3LY8.png
[14:12] <nibbler> sambagirl, might be easiest to boot a ubuntu install cd and run sudo update-grub2 on that...
 respond!
[14:13] <enapupe> matts1lver: this is beying my knowledge.. you should keep googling roundcube + spamassassin
[14:13] <resuremade> TJ-: one second, I'll check that
[14:13] <blackshirt> sambagirl: press esc/shift key to show grub menus
[14:13] <ziggyzero> apt-cache shows:
[14:13] <ziggyzero> Package: libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[14:13] <sambagirl> ok brb thanks let me try both with blackshirt option first thanks brb
[14:13] <ziggyzero> Version: 3.0.1-1
[14:14] <nibbler> resuremade, you have plenty of stuff in there, OUTPUT is fine, just do the iptables command from before with -I instead of -A
[14:14] <TJ-> resuremade: "sudo netstat -ntlap  | grep 2777"
[14:14] <shankar> Hey! anyone there? I need help !! the forum doesnt seem to answer my queries..
[14:14] <resuremade> TJ-: nothing
[14:14] <shankar> regarding ubuntu install via a USB ..
[14:15] <matts1lver> enapupe: thanks for your time
[14:15] <nibbler> !ask | shaneo
[14:15] <ziggyzero> Can anybody help me with installing mod_proxy_html v3.1 so I get rid of the Invalid command 'ProxyHTMLEnable', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration error message
[14:15] <sambagirl> it shows me gnu grub ver 0.97 with blackshirts command
[14:15] <nibbler> hmpf... my autocomplete looks broken today ;-)
[14:15] <TJ-> resuremade: So the service isn't running - its not a firewall issue
[14:15] <sambagirl> now i will boot and do nibblers suggestion thanks
[14:15] <wtommy55> Hi again. I'm still having trouble booting my Lubuntu installation. After I choose the OS and kernel in grub the screen goes black and just stays like that. No loading screen appears. I've tried "nomodeset" with no success, I've tried "noapic nolapic acpi=off lacpi=off" which worked twice. Now it's back to a black screen.
[14:16] <nibbler> TJ-, besides the service might actually not be running, this ruleset would not allow connecting
[14:16] <resuremade> TJ-: strange. It looks like irssi disables proxy after some time
[14:16] <nibbler> resuremade, no reboot needed
[14:16] <shankar> anyone here?/
[14:17] <shankar> hello!
[14:17] <shankar> respond>>
[14:17] <resuremade> nibbler: ok, there are 111 days uptime and I don't want to lose them :-D
[14:17] <TJ-> nibbler: I asked resuremade if a local connection was possible; the answer was 'no'. Local connections wouldn't be affected by the firewall rule mentioned.
[14:17] <ikonia> resuremade: why ?
[14:17] <ikonia> resuremade: why is not losing uptime stats worth it ?
[14:17] <sunk8> Yes shankar what's the status?
[14:17] <shankar> no luck!
[14:17] <bazhang> shankar, ask a question, all on ONE line
[14:17] <resuremade> Ok, netstat is now OK: tcp6  0  0 :::2777 :::* LISTEN  25905/irssi
[14:18] <shankar> I want you to be patient with my queries.. I'll be glad!
[14:18] <nibbler> resuremade, you are on ipv6? thats on purpose?
[14:18] <TJ-> resuremade: You notice that's an IPv6 port only? Are you expecting an IPv4 port too?
[14:18] <resuremade> ikonia: it's like reinstalling OS: it relaxes me. I think it's  better to find the way without reinstall/reboot
[14:18] <resuremade> nibbler, TJ-: oops
[14:19] <TJ-> resuremade: indeed
[14:19] <resuremade> How can I make it open for ipv4 too?
[14:19] <ikonia> resuremade: no prolem, if you want to keep your uptime statistics so you look "cool" rather than resolve the problem, go for it
[14:19] <ziggyzero> Can anybody help me with installing mod_proxy_html v3.1 so I get rid of the Invalid command 'ProxyHTMLEnable', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration error message
[14:20] <bazhang> ziggyzero, try #ubuntu-server
[14:20] <shankar> I got to install ubuntu 11.10 on my system. a standalone ununtu 11.10. I downloaded the image from ubuntu.org and burned the iso using UNetbootin on a flashdrive. I configured the bios option to boot from USB..
[14:20] <ziggyzero> I'm running ubuntu-server
[14:20] <bazhang> ziggyzero, it's a channel
[14:20] <sunk8> shankar: did you try a CD?
[14:20] <shankar> and then a window appears with an underscore and thats it.. nothing comes up!
[14:20] <ziggyzero> How do I reply to you so that I can easily follow the chat stream
[14:20] <ziggyzero> Ah
[14:20] <ikonia> ziggyzero: why do you think upgrading will gix that
[14:20] <sunk8> shankar: checked the MD5? and tried another alternative to unetbootin?
[14:21] <ikonia> ziggyzero: this is the apache module yes ?
[14:21] <shankar> The cd's burning>>
[14:21] <resuremade> nibbler , TJ-: ufw opens only IPv6 for default?
[14:21] <enapupe> resuremade: not
[14:21] <ziggyzero> Yes an Apache module
[14:21] <ikonia> ziggyzero: right, what version have you got installed ?
[14:21] <shankar> Now it will work via the CD. But why isnt it on from the USB??
[14:21] <ziggyzero> How do I reply to you. Your name is in red
[14:21] <nibbler> resuremade, nope, that is a config problem with your server software
[14:21] <ikonia> ziggyzero: just put my name
[14:21] <ikonia> ziggyzero: like I am doing to you
[14:21] <enapupe> resuremade: you should ask your hosting company to understand how they firewall their servers
[14:22] <sunk8> shankar: unetbootin sometimes doesnt work for me
[14:22] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Source: mod-proxy-html Version: 3.0.1-1
[14:22] <resuremade> nibbler: in this case in irssi?
[14:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: in that case, I'm out, you should have just used the version in the ubuntu repos
[14:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: you've possibly messed up your apache config now
[14:22] <shankar> The MD5 is prevalent on the ISO. and I've tried alternate to the Unetbooting too.. No luck
[14:22] <resuremade> enapupe: it runs nginx+unicorn well, maybe problem in irssi only?
[14:22] <ziggyzero> I installed via apt-get
[14:22] <ziggyzero> ikonia: I installed via apt-get
[14:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: you just said from source
[14:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: ok
[14:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: that's good
[14:23] <ikonia> ziggyzero: why do you want to upgrade it ?
[14:23] <enapupe> resuremade: what is going on on irssi?
[14:23] <shankar> Suggest alternate to Unetbootin.. shoot!
[14:23] <resuremade> enapupe: irssi-proxy
[14:23] <ziggyzero> ikonia: apt-get install libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[14:24] <ikonia> ziggyzero: ok - why do you want to upgrade it
[14:24] <resuremade> enapupe: it works well when I connect to localhost from server
[14:24] <ikonia> !info libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[14:24] <enapupe> resuremade: IDK, maybe try listen on another port?
[14:24] <dr_willis> shankar:  pendrive linux web site has dozens
[14:24] <resuremade> enapupe: I've also tried 3888
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> shankar, Not to interrupt but, what did you mean by: "The MD5 is prevalent"?
[14:25] <enapupe> resuremade: sudo  netstat -tulpn | grep <processnamehere>
[14:25] <ziggyzero> ikonia: I am trying to get it to rewrite the HTML to workaround absolute paths
[14:25] <enapupe> resuremade: <processnamehere> is the name of irssi proxy process
[14:25] <ikonia> ziggyzero: why do you think upgrading will solve this ?
[14:26] <ikonia> ziggyzero: do you know the current version doesn't support this ?
[14:26] <resuremade> enapupe: tcp6       0      0 :::2777     :::*     LISTEN      25905/irssi  — it runs at IPv6, I just want know how to run it as IPv4 too
[14:26] <ziggyzero> ikonia: v3.0 doesn't have the ProxyHTMLURLMap function
[14:27] <ikonia> ziggyzero: again....do you know the current version doesn't support what you want b.) the new version does
[14:27] <shankar> tried pendrivelinux' "Universal USB installer" too..
[14:27] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Yes v3.0 doesn't support ProxyHTMLURLMap
[14:27] <ikonia> ziggyzero: no - not what I asked
[14:27]  * Sidewinder1 Thinks that shankar has an incorrect ISO and that he just ran md5sum on said ISO, but was not aware that he needs to compare that to the md5sum-hash, provided by the site where he downloaded.
[14:28] <ikonia> ziggyzero: do you know the current version doesn't support what you want to do b.) does the updated version support what you want it to do
[14:28] <nucc1> so, when i run apt-get upgrade and it says some packages have been held back, what does that mean?
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> If I'm wrong, I apologize.
[14:28] <shankar> MD5SUM - a hash check on installation files of ubuntu. Prevalent as in the check is positive.
[14:29] <enapupe> resuremade: can you locally connect to 2777:
[14:29] <enapupe> resuremade: ?
[14:29] <ziggyzero> ikonia: http://apache.webthing.com/mod_proxy_html/config.html
[14:29] <sambagirl> i ran sudo update-grub2 from the boot cd and it says cannto find a device it sais is /dev mounted and i did mount the partition with disk utility
[14:29] <resuremade> enapupe: yes
[14:30] <enapupe> resuremade: what happens when you try to connect form the outside?
[14:30] <ziggyzero> ikonia: If I knew how to compile the module from source then I'd be ok. I just don't want to break apache2 that apt-get manages
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> shankar, What did you compare the output of the ISO's hash to? Exactly where did you obtain the hash.
[14:30] <enapupe> from*
[14:30] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  you may want to use that boot-repair tool. i think you need to chroot or use some other options to use update-grub directly
[14:30] <shankar> @ sidewinder1 I have downloaded the ISO from ubuntu.com..
[14:31] <sambagirl> dr_willis what is the boot-repair tool? how do i load it?
[14:31] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  see the url for the fixgrub factoid
[14:31] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[14:31] <resuremade> enapupe: Connection refused
[14:31] <Rudeboy_> The toolbars on my Gimp keep going out the top or bottom of the screen, so irritating:/ How can I fix that?
[14:32] <ikonia> ziggyzero: please stop and look at what I'm asking you
[14:32] <shankar> i checked the PGP signature in the file - MD5SUMS.gpg
[14:32] <ikonia> ziggyzero: does the current version you are using not have capabilities to do what you want. Forge that specific function, but can it actually do what you want
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> shankar, After you issued the command: md5sum ubuntu-i386-desktop blah blah, What did do with the output?
[14:32] <ikonia> ziggyzero: do you NEED to upgrade,
[14:32] <sambagirl> dr_willis i loaded another linux next to 10.04 and windows partition and it uses grub1 and i see the windows boot option but not ubuntu option. they told me from the other linux os that they use grub1
[14:33] <dr_willis> what uses grub 1 in this age?
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> shankar, Never mind, I need to run sorry; I'm sure you'll get it worked out. :-)
[14:33] <ziggyzero> ikonia: I don't think it does no. When I visit the sub domain that should proxy to the internal server I get a redirect to an absolute path and I just see page cannot be displayed message
[14:33] <shankar> thanks side! cya around.
[14:34] <ikonia> ziggyzero: ask in #httpd
[14:34] <ikonia> ziggyzero: make sure, as upgrading for no reason is silly
[14:34] <sambagirl> the 2nd most downloaded linux os according to distrowatch it is called mageia and is mandriva / mandrake fork
[14:34] <TJ-> resuremade: does the VPS host operate a firewall independent of the guest?
[14:34] <shankar> what must be the output compared with?
[14:34] <ziggyzero> ikonia: much obliged. To join https is it just /join #httpd?
[14:35] <ikonia> ziggyzero: correct
[14:35] <STMelon> distrowatch doesnt include downloads.. it is quite inaccurate.. it onlty included hits on the website.. meaning how many ppl click that weblink from the distro website
[14:35] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Thank You
[14:35] <sambagirl> ohh
[14:35] <bazhang> !ot | sambagirl
[14:35] <resuremade> TJ-: I haven't heard of something like that in the Hetzner infrastructure
[14:35] <sambagirl> look bazhang this is an ubuntu isse
[14:36] <wondered> Hello,
[14:36] <sambagirl> issue
[14:36] <bazhang> sambagirl, it's not a support issue. take it elsewhere
[14:36] <ikonia> sambagirl: the most popular distros are nothing to do with #ubuntu
[14:36] <shankar> sunk8> one moment !
[14:36] <sambagirl> if you look at the earlier posts you will see it is.
[14:36] <overclucker> taht's a sad statement ikonia
[14:37] <ikonia> sambagirl: no it's not, I understand your issue, you have two distros and grub needs to be setup for both - but if a distro is the worst or best on distro watch has no relevance
[14:37] <resuremade> TJ-: can you try to connect via IPv6?
[14:37] <dr_willis> sambagirl: you will need to chainload grub1. or make a custome grub2 entry for the other os.
[14:37] <sambagirl> dr willias asked which version uses that version of grub and since he is a person of prominence here i answered his question with my answer
[14:38] <dr_willis> or setup grub2 on the other distro
[14:38] <sambagirl> dr_willis ok
[14:38] <ikonia> sambagirl: yes, answering the question is great, it's position on distro watch is not of value
[14:38] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Sorry but I cannot post in #httpd
[14:38] <ikonia> ziggyzero: you need to register
[14:38] <ikonia> !regiater | ziggyzero
[14:38] <sambagirl> ikonia i answer my questions using my own mind period. sheesh/.
[14:39] <TJ-> resuremade: OK, so the problem is on the VPS guest itself. Have you cleared (disabled) all firewall rules and verified the netfilters filter table is empty with default policy ACCEPT?
[14:39] <sambagirl> so deleting the other linux partition isnt going to solve anything then. it won't bring back ubuntu as a boot option, i have to work with grub. that is my only question at this point.
[14:39] <ziggyzero> ikonia: God, easy when you know how. Many Thanks :-) I feel silly now, but in my defence I don't use IRC much
[14:39] <resuremade> TJ-: so, `sudo ufw disable` it not enough?
[14:40] <sambagirl> one last question if i reinstall 10.04lts will that destroy the existing ubuntu build completely?
[14:40] <TJ-> resuremade: There may still be rules set. Check with "sudo iptables -nL" - also check the default policy on the INPUT chain is "ACCEPT"
[14:40] <ikonia> ziggyzero: no need to feel silly
[14:41] <TJ-> resuremade: This is a process of elimination to ensure that we *assume* matches the reality :)
[14:42] <resuremade> TJ-: here is output of `sudo iptables -nL`: https://gist.github.com/7b0b3b2536e543c0a70a
[14:42] <TJ-> sambagirl: Are you able to boot into the 'new' Linux installation? If so, you can use that to mount the Ubuntu 10.04 to a temporary mount-point, and 'chroot' into it to do grub-install
[14:43] <wondered> I installed kde-plasma-desktop on Ubuntu 12.04.1 and i am trying to make the Ubuntu in text mode SO THAT i can logged in text mode. So i have edited the /etc/default/grub and replaced the "quiet splash" with "text" , Also i edited "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" and putted the "kde-plasma" instead default session "ubuntu". Anyway, After logged in i lunch the command but i get error "$DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server" . Can anyo
[14:43] <wondered> ne help me please?
[14:43] <Max77> hy all:)
[14:43] <sambagirl> tj- i will try that and also explore grub as dr_willis expounded on. thanks
[14:43] <TJ-> resuremade: Your rules for port 2777 are preceded by a reject rule: "REJECT     all  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0            reject-with icmp-port-unreachable"
[14:43] <BluesKaj> TJ-, why chroot , just sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[14:44] <TJ-> BluesKaj: The other grub is grub v1, not grub v2
[14:44] <shankar> sunk8
[14:44] <Sachiru> For a device acting as a server, but not very loaded (four VMs, ten concurrent users for the server, core i5), would a noticeable performance gain be seen by shifting from DDR3 1333 to DDR3 1600?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> TJ-, ahh
[14:44] <shankar> come in bro.
[14:44] <resuremade> TJ-: can I remove only that line, or it's simple to clear all rules and build new?
[14:45] <shankar> sunk8 come in
[14:45] <TJ-> resuremade: It would be good to know what is setting that? If it's not ufw, then you have yet another firewall program installed
[14:46] <wondered> anyone help me please?
[14:46] <overclucker> wondered: ctrl-alt-F1 - F6, is that what you are looking for? it should be F7 or F8 to get back to desktop.
[14:46] <TJ-> resuremade: There are lots of ufw chains there so I'm assuming it *is* UFW that hasn't been fully disabled
[14:46] <mercsniper> wondered: what is your question?
[14:46] <bazhang> !nox | wondered
[14:47] <resuremade> TJ-: there are also fail2ban, does it matter?
[14:47] <party> exit
[14:48] <TJ-> resuremade: It may do, but that looks like an SSH-only protection. I'd focus on editing your UFW rule-set to insert the port 2777 rules in its configuration, then stop/start UFW to have it apply them in the correct order
[14:48] <dealy-r7> Hi, I need help with startup after upgrading to 12.04, my machine boots to a blank screen, then after powering down I get the grub menu, from there I can pick a kernel and it starts properly.
[14:48] <wondered> mercsniper, After editing the grub file for text mode boot and login . But after startkde i get error "$DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server"
[14:49] <dealy-r7> It seems that there's some issue changing grub because my machine has an encrypted disk
[14:50] <TJ-> resuremade: The docs here suggest setting the rules using UFW is straight-forward. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW#Allow_and_Deny
[14:50] <overclucker> wondered: you are trying to start kde from command line?
[14:51] <resuremade> TJ-: thanks. Is it OK to remove all existing rules and set new using ufw?
[14:51] <wondered> overclucker,  Yeah
[14:52] <fastputty> hi guys. i am running on ubuntu server and my cpu crash so i bring my harddrive to another system. Everything boot correctly but i have no network
[14:52] <overclucker> wondered: open ~/.xinitrc and add 'exec startkde' to the end. then run startx
[14:52] <fastputty> my eth0 is not configure correctly
[14:52] <fastputty> someone could help me out
[14:53] <TJ-> resuremade: Yes. You might want to do "sudo ufw disable" then "sudo iptables --flush" then "sudo ufx enable" then add your new UFW rules
[14:54] <actionParsnip> fastputty: do you use DHCP?
[14:55] <TJ-> fastputty: That is probably because the previous eth0 interface was saved in "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules". You'll probably find the network interface is now eth1. You can delete the entry in "70-persistent-net.rules" to have the first interface named "eth0" on the 'new' hardware
[14:55] <fastputty> actionParsnip: yes
[14:56] <fastputty> TJ-: i did delete the last line in 70-persistent-net.rules
[14:56] <TJ-> fastputty: OK, you're ahead of the game then :) Tell us in detail how eth0 is configured, and what is (not) happening
[14:57] <actionParsnip> fastputty: does your interface have an IP? You can check with: ip addr
[14:57] <L3top> wouldnt the second entry be the new nic TJ? Should he not delete them both and reboot so a fresh entry is the only entry and eth0?
[14:57] <resuremade> TJ-: oops, I've missed something. Now I can't ssh to vps :-D
[14:57] <L3top> nm then... lol
[14:58] <compdoc> fastputty, if you have more than one nic, and if they sometimes change between eth0 and eth1, you can define them by hand and stop the changes
[14:58] <fastputty> compdoc: only 1 nic
[14:58] <TJ-> resuremade: Do they provide a local console log-in redirection option?
[14:59] <resuremade> TJ-: don't know. But it isn't big problem because it's not production server
[15:00] <TJ-> L3top: fastputty In "70-persistent-net.rules" the MAC would be matched to the 'next' name - I assume fastputty deleted the entry relating to the 'old' hardware and does now have an "eth0" from what has been said
[15:00] <overclucker> since it's a vps, there's may be vnc. check with your host.
[15:01] <overclucker> ^-- that's for you, resuremade
[15:01] <wondered> overclucker, Okay. I thought it should be .xsession
[15:01] <TJ-> resuremade: :p I'm glad to hear it!  On Linode for example, they provide 'lish' a remote SSH that connects to the local VPS console so you can still get access even if you lock yourself out of network access
[15:02] <overclucker> wondered: did that do it for you?
[15:02] <resuremade> TJ-: yea, I've tried lish) Now going to search analogues at hetzner
[15:02] <TJ-> resuremade: Or just use the web console to reboot the VPS to the same state it was in earlier?
[15:02] <bytesaber_work> I add smb mount points to /etc/fstab and mount them to /media/...        They work great, but over time nautilus shows dead mount points with the same name, next to mount points that work.  If i clear /etc/fstab they go away.  Why do i have to do this to keep nautilus clean?
[15:03] <wondered> overclucker, yep
[15:03] <Iceman_B> so uh, is the 'NOUSB' a standard switch built into the Linux kernel?
[15:03] <TJ-> resuremade: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/VKVM/en
[15:03] <Iceman_B> while booting?
[15:04] <sambagirl> if i just delete the other partition, the old ubuntu grub should be the dominant grub because the other grub will have been removed. is that logic right?
[15:04] <TJ-> resuremade: Also, analog of lish seems to be LARA http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/LARA/en
[15:04] <xevwork> I need to unmount a volume, but I have two users with shells idling in that directory and I don't want to boot them off the system.
[15:04] <resuremade> TJ-: thanks, I'll try it
[15:04] <xevwork> Is there a way to force the unmount even though there are two bash processes in the mountpoint?
[15:05] <shomon> hi, I tried many moons ago to upgrade to 11.04, and it resulted in darkness through the realm (of my laptop at least)
[15:05] <shomon> so now that I've reached the end of the road, how can I move across to lands beyond?
[15:05] <TJ-> xevwork: It may be possible - you could mount some other file-system onto the same mount-point (which ought to replace the existing mount-point), and then try umount on the original file-system ? I've never tried that myself however!
[15:05] <bazhang> !details | shomon
[15:06] <TJ-> xevwork: the other alternative is to do a 'lazy' umount
[15:06] <overclucker> wondered: you can switch to text mode ttys by pressing the ctrl-alt-f1 - f7 or f8 combination, even while in X
[15:07] <gbili> hello, I would like to use the latest version of django (1.4) but python-django package only has version 1.3.1, how can I get the newest version?
[15:07] <soman> Hi all. How can I help to distribute Linux in my city? Is it Possible?
[15:07] <bazhang> !loco | soman
[15:08] <sachael> hey, is anyone using compiz standalone with some tray/taskbar app?
[15:08] <TerryH> drussell - I am online now
[15:09] <overclucker> gbili: easy_install or pip are probably the best choices for installation
[15:10] <shomon> bazhang, it's the version prior to 11.04
[15:10] <shomon> whenever I upgrade it at login it just goes blank
[15:10] <wondered> overclucker, Now it does not auto mount other partitions
[15:10] <shomon> completely dark
[15:10] <shomon> so how can I check if now with upgrades and stuff it might work?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> soman  actually, it's offtopic, better go there -- what you can do: burn CD's and distribute them for free
[15:11] <gbili> overclucker, ok thanks, but is it difficult to create a package? so i use django the ubunut official way?
[15:11] <shomon> it's not impossible but it takes a lot of figuring out
[15:11] <Zentaur> hello
[15:12] <shomon> once you can do it, you can automate it in loads of ways so may be what you need gbili
[15:12] <Zentaur> i installed ubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. I run perfect.
[15:12] <Zentaur> But when i installed the amount of software that i use it starts very slow
[15:13] <soman> bazhang, ubottu, MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:13] <shomon> I would upgrade to anything that worked.. but can I install maybe to usbb disk and try it there first?
[15:13] <Zentaur> how could i make the login run faster?
[15:13] <dr_willis> Zentaur: depends on whats running and loading
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Zentaur  use sudo apt-get apt-remove to delete obsololete soft -- also delete old kernels
[15:13] <dr_willis> shomon: thats doable
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> Zentaur  that's sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:14] <TJ-> Zentaur: I've noticed with 12.04 that gnome-settings-daemon often uses 100% CPU and accesses the disk continuously for some time after log-in begins, effectively making log-in take ages. Not sure why it does that.
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur: default Os on the netbook?
[15:14] <overclucker> gbili: i'm not sure, you'll have to explore the differences on your own
[15:14] <Zentaur> yes, defaullt
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur:i mean what Os was installed when buying the netbook?
[15:15] <Zentaur> windojs 7
[15:16] <overclucker> !fstab | wondered
[15:16] <Zentaur> but i made a copy and erased it from the computer
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur:some netbooks with win7 as default freeze on ubuntu, when not setting BIOS to network boot=ON
[15:16] <ranjan> Hi all, How can i install GNOME 3.6 in my ubuntu 12.04?
[15:16] <xevwork> TJ-: I needed to remount something onto that same folder so lazy wasn't an option unless I was cool with things probably breaking.
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell | ranjan
[15:17] <TJ-> xevwork: Have you worked it out now?
[15:17] <xevwork> TJ-: I took the lazy sysadmin route and just killed the users' idle shell sessions.
[15:17] <wondered> overclucker, It mounts fine if there is no xinitrc ...
[15:17] <ranjan> lotuspsychje, i need gnome 3.6
[15:17] <TJ-> xevwork: :D noce one
[15:17] <shomon> !info usb
[15:17] <shomon> nah
[15:17] <shomon> okay
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> ranjan:oh sorry
[15:17] <xevwork> TJ-: They were just sitting at the bash prompt, so I figure they can deal with logging in again.
[15:17] <shomon> how do you install ubuntu on usb?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !usb
[15:18] <enapupe> shomon: there's a ton of tutorials, google it
[15:18] <dr_willis> shomon: same as you do to a harddrive
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> enapupe  don't say to google, when people ask for help
[15:18] <dr_willis> for a full install... shomon
[15:18] <enapupe> because it is an obvious and full of resources question
[15:19] <bazhang> enapupe, never suggest it here.
[15:19] <bazhang> !google | enapupe
[15:19] <ozette> where can I find system sounds like the sound when you're promptd to fill in password
[15:19] <enapupe> okey dokey
[15:20] <r3k> what's the recommended method of giving both FTP user and www-data user rw access to a user's home/public_html folder?
[15:21] <majdi> irc.eisti.fr:6665
[15:21] <resuremade> TJ-: simple reboot, and it works :-D too trivial
[15:21] <TJ-> resuremade: Always the case!
[15:23] <resuremade> TJ-: now it looks like this: https://gist.github.com/13849c57b4dd5c6a7702
[15:23] <overclucker> wondered: i'm not sure how an .xinitrc could affect if disks are mounted. I think it's autofs that's in charge of auto mounting.
[15:24] <TJ-> r3k: Maybe create a new group, make those users members of it, and then assign the new group as owner of directories (making sure that each directory leading to those directories has +x mode)
[15:24] <sporkf> hi
[15:24] <sporkf> how can I see what version of ubuntu I'm currently running.
[15:24] <TJ-> resuremade: So now all you need do is add the port 2777 rules to UFW, yes?
[15:24] <rymate1234> sporkf, which version did you install
[15:25] <bazhang> !version | sporkf
[15:25] <sporkf> rymate1234: If I remembered I wouldn't be asking.
[15:25] <sporkf> thanks.
[15:25] <resuremade> TJ-: yep, but `sudo ufw allow 2777` told "Skipping adding existing rule"
[15:25] <rymate1234> guys
[15:25] <rymate1234> how do I use lxappearance to change my gtk theme in openbox
[15:25] <rymate1234> because it doesn't change it
[15:26] <TJ-> resuremade: That makes sense. The pastebin you showed me doesn't include include the UFW rules so I assumed you'd got UFW disabled when you generated that output. UFW may have the rules, but you need to "sudo ufw enable" to have them written to netfilters
[15:27] <sporkf> is it safe to install KDE on ubuntu?  I don't feel like wiping my hard drive to install kubuntu.
[15:27] <bazhang> sporkf, kubuntu-desktop, very safe
[15:27] <Zentaur> lotuspsychje, whatt's that of boot=on?
[15:28] <sporkf> bazhang: Is that a package name ?
[15:28] <bazhang> sporkf, correct
[15:28] <sporkf> thanks.
[15:28] <rymate1234> hmmm
[15:28] <rymate1234> I can use gtk-chtheme to change my gtk2 theme
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur: some netbooks with win7 as default freeze on ubuntu, so you need to set network to 'enabled'..its worth a try maybe
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur: network boot: on
[15:30] <Zentaur> but what is network boot for?
[15:30] <Zentaur> isn't it some kind of wake on lan?
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur: enable network on boot
[15:31] <actionParsnip> rymate1234: is the theme listed in the openbox theme selecter?
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> Zentaur: you could ask in ##hardware for specific model problems on cpu too
[15:32] <sagoy> naa nko lovee
[15:33] <Romulan> hellO! how do i clear the scrollback?
[15:34] <bazhang> Romulan, which irc client
[15:34] <Zentaur> I dont think it's a mattr of hardware because it worked fine when only the system was installed
[15:34] <Romulan> the one we are talkin to each oh\ther in..
[15:34] <bazhang> Romulan, there are many, not a single one
[15:35] <Romulan> This very chat forum...
[15:35] <Zentaur> I think it's a matter of processes and services that i should delete or shutdown
[15:35] <Zentaur> but i don't know how
[15:35] <bazhang> Romulan, for the gateway , which you are on, perhaps ask in #freenode
[15:35] <Romulan> ok
[15:35] <Romulan> and can anyone help me out with a query?
[15:36] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  I'm running Ubuntu Server on one of my servers that acts as a SFTP server and I'm noticing that it is starting to take a long time to login.  The console-kit-daemon process is eating up a lot of CPU.  What does this process do?
[15:36] <bazhang> Romulan, ask the channel and see
[15:36] <resuremade> TJ-: I've run `ufw enable` and it changed iptables rules (https://gist.github.com/13849c57b4dd5c6a7702), but I still can't connect to the irssi-proxy on 2777 from my laptop (but I can connect to it from the server)
[15:37] <actionParsnip> CharlieSu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/consolekit/+bug/284229
[15:37] <TJ-> resuremade: Your rules are in the ufw-user-input chain
[15:37] <Fifo> Hi
[15:39] <resuremade> TJ-: I must move them to the main section, right?
[15:39] <Cipher-0> Question: When installing a new trusted root certificate to Ubuntu 10.04, they go in  /usr/local/share/ca-certificates ?
[15:40] <Cipher-0> Or is it  /etc/ssl/certs$
[15:40] <TJ-> resuremade: which, if you read the rules and dependencies is *supposed* to be called in this order INPUT > ufw_before_input > ufw-user-input > ACCEPT 2777 ...
[15:40] <goddard> how can i install gnome 3.6 in 12.04
[15:41] <TJ-> resuremade: **however*, in the INPUT chain you _still_ have a REJECT rule immediately before the ufw_before_input jump, so your rules never get processed.
[15:41] <Fifo> goddard: You don't like Unity?
[15:41] <resuremade> TJ-: strange, it's default rules after iptables flush
[15:41] <goddard> Fifo: Gnome Shell is better and faster with the same features and you can change things with extensions
[15:42] <OerHeks> Cipher-0, see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html >> sudo cp server.crt /etc/ssl/certs >> sudo cp server.key /etc/ssl/private
[15:42] <dr_willis> goddard:  for newer versions use a ppa.
[15:42] <TJ-> resuremade: That "REJECT" rule was there before you enabled UFW, so it probably comes from fail2ban. So that tells us you need to investigate fail2ban since it looks to be preventing UFW from doing its job
[15:42] <Fifo> goddard: I know but I like Unity more.
[15:42] <dr_willis> !ppa | goddard
[15:42] <Fifo> I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 server
[15:42] <Fifo> !ppa | goddard
[15:42] <goddard> Fifo: Gnome Shell doesn't give you ads either haha
[15:43] <goddard> dr_willis: do you know a good ppa :D ?
[15:43] <nbf> I upgraded to the quantal beta, how do I use the shopping lens?
[15:43] <Fifo> goddard: I didn't know that.
[15:43] <Fifo> :)
[15:43] <nbf> I want to shop amazon via the dash dammit! ;)
[15:43] <OerHeks> !quantal | nbf
[15:43] <nbf> fine fine
[15:43] <goddard> haha i like shopping with Google Chrome hahah
[15:43] <bratner> hi! how do i make my desktop larger then my monitor and be able to navigate it with mouse or keys?
[15:44] <nbf> goddard: I like being able to hit super and instantly search
[15:44] <dr_willis> goddard: theres ppa search tools and sites
[15:44] <Romulan> hey, my prev. issue hadnt been solved yet.
[15:44] <dr_willis> nbf: my wife has been shopping that way...
[15:45] <Romulan> i checked the md5sum of the iso, and they didnt match. i redownloaded from the same site "ubuntu.com", the 12.04 versio.. and the md5sum still shows a negative. HELP!
[15:45] <goddard> nbf: Gnome Shell does the same thing and it doesn't have any of the stupid lens and stuff and Gnome Shell beats Unity benchmarks
[15:45] <resuremade> TJ-: is it safe to remove fail2ban, if I have disabled password auth (only certs) and root ssh auth?
[15:45] <nbf> yeah gnome shell is okay, I was using it for a while
[15:45] <nbf> the latest ubuntu unity is very nice though (quantal)
[15:45] <nbf> the performance is much better on my ivy bridge syste
[15:45] <goddard> nbf: i like unity i just like Gnome Shell more
[15:46] <drussell> ping TerryH
[15:46] <TJ-> resuremade: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/54771/potential-ufw-and-fail2ban-conflicts
[15:46] <actionParsnip> Romulan: try using torrents
[15:46] <Fifo> goddard: I'm waiting for Unity 3D in VirtualBox.
[15:46] <Romulan> link me up!
[15:46] <goddard> nbf: in Gnome Shell 3.6 it has the universal app menu like unity
[15:47] <ThinkT510> !torrents | Romulan
[15:47] <Fifo> !torrents | goddard
[15:47] <goddard> nbf: there is also an extension to make gnome shell have a doc
[15:47] <goddard> dock*
[15:47] <Romulan> that will help! thanks a ton ubottu!
[15:47] <CharlieSu> actionParsnip: Thanks for that bug reference..  Looks like that was the issue for me...
[15:47] <nbf> I'm very familiar with gnome 3 :)
[15:48] <leonardorocha> Does anyone notice a bug in Chromium 20, which closes alone when using flash plugin??
[15:48] <goddard> nbf: i was surprised they added the overall menu in 3.6 that was the feature I was missing so now I'm happy
[15:48] <Fifo> I'm installing Ubuntu Server 12.04. Cool, huh? :)
[15:48] <nbf> it's a great release
[15:48] <nbf> I upgraded all of out previous LTS servers to 12.04
[15:50] <goddard> nice
[15:50] <trotro> the installer was corrected
[15:50] <goddard> i need to do that
[15:51] <truexfan81> is the ubuntu 3.6 kernel out of rc yet?
[15:51] <TJ-> truexfan81: Linux 3.6 isn't out yet
[15:51]  * truexfan81 wonders what he was just reading then lol
[15:51]  * trotro never understood why ubuntu need to put it's dirty hands on the kernel... :-(
[15:51] <goddard> why do they have ubuntu remixes when you can just install any DE in ubuntu?
[15:52] <nbf> goddard: less setup work
[15:52] <seednode> goddard, some people are too lazy to install from minimal.
[15:52] <goddard> oh
[15:52] <seednode> And removing a DE and replacing it can be annoying; it leaves dependencies behind.
[15:52] <trotro> DE ?
[15:52] <seednode> Desktop Environment.
[15:53] <trotro> Window Manager ?
[15:53] <seednode> It's usually a window manager and a collection of tools.
[15:53] <Fifo> trotro: WM
[15:53] <seednode> Like a menu, system tray, and the like.
[15:53]  * Cipher-0 has no idea why he couldn't find that, thanks Oerherks.
[15:53] <caddoo> How would I keep a java app running even when I log out
[15:53] <trotro> Oh... the complete (and often useless) thing
[15:53] <caddoo> (remote machine)
[15:53] <seednode> caddoo: Run it as a background process or daemon?
[15:53] <seednode> Not sure how to do that, or if it's possible.
[15:54] <trotro> it's the same thing
[15:54] <caddoo> yeah that's my question
[15:54] <caddoo> its for Solr, and I normally just do
[15:54] <caddoo> java -jar start.jar
[15:54] <actionParsnip> cadddo: look into screen
[15:55] <resuremade> TJ-: I've removed fail2ban from a system (for a time) and... there is still 'REJECT     all  --  0.0.0.0/0    127.0.0.0/8   reject-with icmp-port-unreachable' from `sudo iptables -nL` (it's after rebooting and `sudo ufw enable`).
[15:55] <Diranged> Hrmm… Anybody using Ubuntu 12.04 in EC2 heavily? We've seen 4 instances of UBuntu 12 freezing in EC2 with no log entries and no real rhyme or reason…
[15:55] <TJ-> resuremade: Something wrong somewhere! I wonder if there's yet another set of firewall rules being loaded!?
[15:56] <drsa2> i want to install indic key boad
[15:56] <goddard> trotro: haha useless you hate all the gnome apps?
[15:56] <drsa2> what i have to go
[15:56] <resuremade> TJ-: it's sad)
[15:56] <trotro> goddard, if only it was application
[15:56] <actionParsnip> Diranged: i'd get a RAM test RAM
[15:57] <overclucker> TJ-: are you sure it's running on a network interface?
[15:57] <Diranged> actionParse: this is in amazon EC2 … not really possible
[15:57] <trotro> it's usually gnome applet, and i don't use gnome, it's slow
[15:57] <TJ-> resuremade: Do a search for that REJECT rule. "sudo egrep -rn REJECT /etc/*" ... see what files are implicated
[15:57] <goddard> trotro: only if your on an older system
[15:57] <seednode> trotro: Which WM/DE do you use?
[15:58] <seednode> goddard, Older system or no, Awesome, openbox and the like will usually be "faster" than GNOME/KDE
[15:58] <overclucker> TJ-: oops wrong person, that's for you resuremade
[15:58] <goddard> trotro: gnome shell doesn't have applets any more
[15:58] <trotro> goddard, when I change the wibndow manager, the load time of the graphic environment goes from 20" to 0.1"
[15:58] <TJ-> overclucker: The firewall rule? It's on the filter's INPUT chain.
[15:58] <drsa2> satheesh@sa2:~$ sudo bash [sudo] password for satheesh:  root@sa2:~# apt-get install language-support-ml language-pack-ml language-pack-gnome-ml language-pack-gnome-ml-base language-pack-kde-ml language-pack-kde-ml-base Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package language-support-ml root@sa2:~#
[15:58] <goddard> seednode: my system has an i7 and 16 GB of ram I could have a game running in the background and still work fine
[15:58] <resuremade> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/0187b0b6d73c65744eea
[15:58] <TJ-> overclucker: the proxy has been connected to from localhost, and is listening on 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
[15:59] <drsa2> #india
[15:59] <goddard> seednode: but gnome shell is still pretty quick
[15:59] <trotro> goddard, yes, that's excatly what I said
[15:59] <trotro> slow
[15:59] <trotro> so we need a huge computer just to have useless feature
[15:59] <goddard> haha
[15:59] <TJ-> resuremade: nice one! "/etc/iptables.firewall.rules" ... we now need to find out what is loading that rule!
[15:59] <goddard> trotro: awesome is basically a bunch of terminal windows
[15:59] <seednode> goddard: Yes, but a DE/WM that uses fewer resources will feel more responsive.
[16:00] <TJ-> resuremade: "sudo egrep -rn '/etc/iptables\.firewall\.rules' /etc/*"
[16:00] <seednode> Up to a certain point, at least; and once you reach that point, sure, feel free to use what you want.
[16:00] <trotro> goddard, dunno, I'm still with the old XTerm
[16:00] <trotro> for me a good application is a fast application
[16:00] <trotro> I need the power for VLC and firefox
[16:00] <goddard> all my applications are fast as heck
[16:00] <seednode> goddard: Awesome isn't just a bunch of terminal windows... It's a window manager...
[16:00] <resuremade> TJ-: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/firewall:2:/sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.firewall.rules
[16:01] <goddard> seednode: ive used it .. it is basically terminator
[16:01] <TJ-> resuremade: aha!
[16:01] <seednode> goddard: It's a window manager... It has nothing to do with terminals.
[16:01] <actionParsnip> trotro: could switch the deadbeef, its damn fast
[16:01] <TJ-> resuremade: now lets find out what installs that!
[16:01] <seednode> You can open applications in it, it's just a lighter-weight equivalent to GNOME's WM
[16:01] <seednode> With tiling functionality.
[16:01] <trotro> actionParsnip,  deadbeef ? what is it ?
[16:01] <seednode> Window managers have nothing to do with the programs you run within them.
[16:01] <actionParsnip> trotro: media player
[16:01] <seednode> Deadbeef is a music player.
[16:02] <resuremade> TJ-: another magic egrep command? :-D
[16:02] <trotro> actionParsnip, do you mean the things that doesn't know how to read divx without internet
[16:02] <trotro> :D
[16:02] <TJ-> resuremade: no, this time it was "apt-file search ..." here locally, followed by the search oracle :p
[16:02] <goddard> seednode: well i just use the command line it is even more light weight haha
[16:02] <kubanc> Hellow! what can i do, my videos in youtube are playing extremly fast?
[16:02] <seednode> The difference is, goddard, that Awesome is graphical, not CLI.
[16:02] <Gycklarn> I have a Ubuntu server named "vain" in my personal network, but sometimes I can't find it from my Linuxmint laptop by pinging "vain". Is the issue with my server or laptop?
[16:02] <seednode> And now I know you're just being facetious.
[16:03] <goddard> seednode: well it was suppose to be a joke
[16:03] <actionParsnip> kubanc: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:03] <goddard> seednode: since we are obviously not going to agree
[16:03] <karthick87> Is there any alternative to Magic Folder for ubuntu? Please recommend...
[16:03] <actionParsnip> trotro: never had an issue with it, uses very little cpu
[16:03] <trotro> Gycklarn, c'est vain :D
[16:03] <resuremade> TJ-: `apt-file search`?
[16:03] <seednode> goddard: My point is more that you keep arguing that GNOME is as lightweight as any other DE.
[16:03] <seednode> Which is objectively false.
[16:04] <trotro> actionParsnip, if I give it a strange audio/video file, it will cry because it hasn't the code
[16:04] <trotro> VLC never bertay me
[16:04] <trotro> betray
[16:04] <TJ-> resuremade: This page gives instructions for configuring the rules that way. It suggests you may have used that method at some point in the past to configure a basic firewall. That being so, you ought to be able to undo it by reversing the instructions to stop it loading the rules. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[16:04] <actionParsnip> trotro: either that, or gnome-mplayer :). Never had an issue
[16:05] <kubanc> resuremade, sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload did the trick for now... but here's your output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254156/
[16:05] <trotro> actionParsnip, dl a fresh new divx, and unplug your internet cable
[16:05] <trotro> start from a fresh install
[16:05] <TJ-> resuremade: see the section titled "Solution #2 /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and ../if-post-down.d"
[16:05] <goddard> seednode: i was never arguing that.  I said my system is a beast and crushes gnome shell with ease so I can have the flash and my system still flies.  I don't need to use a terminal window manager like Awesome to be fast.
[16:05] <trotro> once vlc is installed it read everything
[16:05] <trotro> (french coders got higher standrad :D </troll> )
[16:05] <blargg> Using Ubuntu 12.04 and all text is slightly gray rather than black. What do I edit for black text? I'm not seeing an option in MyUnity, CompizConfig, or dconf editor.
[16:06] <blargg> (actually, not all text, as XChat seems to override this sillyness)
[16:06] <actionParsnip> trotro: I tend to always have a web connection as I live in 2012, so no issues
[16:07] <trotro> actionParsnip, so you agrre
[16:07] <trotro> your reader is useless without internet ?
[16:07] <actionParsnip> trotro: not tried it
[16:07] <trotro> that's all I need
[16:07] <trotro> VLC rulez
[16:07] <actionParsnip> trotro: but I will always have a web connection
[16:07] <DrMrHorse> hey, i know what a trotro is
[16:07] <seednode> Alright, thanks for the *subtle* hint overclucker, I'll stop now.
[16:08] <seednode> Also, feel free to just tell me, instead of going all stealthy-like.
[16:08] <actionParsnip> trotro: so its as good as VLC, and uses less CPU, so VLC doesn't rule as it is solving something that isn't a problem
[16:08] <goddard> seednode: :D its all ubuntu love though
[16:08] <trotro> actionParsnip, when you're FAI will be down we will talk about that :) or when you'll go somewhere without the internet
[16:08] <trotro> DrMrHorse, what ?
[16:08] <actionParsnip> trotro: like I said, I ALWAYS have web access
[16:08] <trotro> I understand
[16:09] <trotro> actionParsnip, but the day it will become false, you'll think about it
[16:09] <trotro> no one knwos the future
[16:09] <bazhang> !ot | trotro
[16:09] <resuremade> TJ-: I've created that scripts and made them executable. Now again ufw re-enabling?
[16:09] <actionParsnip> trotro: I work in IT so everywhere I go has wifi or some wred jacks. I can also connect to my android phone and use that as a modem if I am in the middle of the desert
[16:09] <overclucker> seednode: stealthylike conserves my screen real-estate xp
[16:09] <trotro> bazhang, what ?
[16:09] <DrMrHorse> trotro: it's a taxi in ghana
[16:10] <actionParsnip> trotro: I strongly doubt it
[16:10] <ggolin> guys, `find' passes filenames to bzip2 via -exec after bzip2 has already compressed them - how do i prevent that?
[16:10] <trotro> ha ok :) but no it's not that
[16:10] <bazhang> trotro, take chat elsewhere . this is support only
[16:10] <trotro> actionParsnip, you know the futrue ?
[16:10] <actionParsnip> trotro: I know I'll have web access, even in a blackout my phone has web so it's all good
[16:10] <seednode> trotro: Just move into Ubuntu-offtopic with the rest of us.
[16:10] <bazhang> actionParsnip, lets move on please
[16:11] <trotro> why do you say that to me only guys ?
[16:11] <trotro> am I alone ?
[16:11] <cRoepha> is there a guide out there to debug ubuntu system binaries? I have installed the -dbg package, but I am still having trouble getting locals and  "no line number information"
[16:11] <seednode> They don't, trotro, they messaged me, too.
[16:11] <ggolin> yeah lets move on to `find' passing filenames to bzip2
[16:11]  * trotro shuts up.
[16:11] <ggolin> i get error messages like 'file.bz2' already exists
[16:11] <ggolin> (use -f to overwrite)
[16:12] <Romulan> how do i have itunes in ubuntu 12.04??
[16:12] <ggolin> you dont Romulan
[16:12] <bazhang> Romulan, check the appdb
[16:12] <CaptainKnots> Hi. I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed and for some reason, the workspace switcher button on the launcher does not work, and the hotkeys for switching workspaces will not work either. How should I go about fixing that?
[16:12] <bazhang> !appdb | Romulan
[16:12] <actionParsnip> Romulan: there are guides on youtube how. I suggest you use a virtualbox
[16:12] <overclucker> trotro: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <Romulan> I tried the software centre, bu tno definitive version that supports iTunes is available..
[16:13] <bazhang> Romulan, it will NEVER be native to linux
[16:13] <Romulan> virtualbox is a great idea but again.. in ubuntu : is there nothing?
[16:13] <bazhang> Romulan, so try via wine, or virtualbox
[16:13] <actionParsnip> Romulan: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=itunes%20ubuntu
[16:13] <ggolin> so, find ./ -type f -exec pbzip2 {} \; - after like.. 50-60 files pbzip2 starts running into files it already compressed.
[16:14] <actionParsnip> ggolin: I'd ask in #bash
[16:14] <ggolin> actionParsnip, bash eh.. hm. not a bad idea.
[16:14] <ggolin> actionParsnip, think this is shell specific?
[16:14]  * ggolin could test with zsh.
[16:15] <Romulan> okay. that would do! thanks people!
[16:15] <Pici> ggolin: I think it may be an issue with spaces, -exec will not properly handle them.
[16:15] <TJ-> resuremade: sorry, I was away. My point was to *remove* any and all iptables rule-loading operations in those pre/post directories so they do not get in the way of UFW.  Deleting "/etc/iptables.firewall.rules" will stop that REJECT and other rules being used, anyhow. If you remove that file, then do "sudo ufw disable && sudo iptables --flush && sudo ufw enable" I *think* you'll finally be OK!
[16:15] <ggolin> Pici, oh?
[16:18] <lgr79> hello everybody
[16:19] <lgr79> I need help with ubuntu server. I've made a fresh installation and everything was ok, but once installed I try to login and it says Login incorrect
[16:19] <niargh> I need pc recommendation for 64bit 12.04 desktop. Was burned with an asus not even completing 12.04.1 setup and still freezing with 12.10. will be using eclipse on large java projects. where can I find a HCL and pick something around $1000 at Fry's?
[16:20] <trism> !hcl | niargh
[16:20] <bazhang> niargh, ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:20] <lgr79> I need help with ubuntu server. I've made a fresh installation and everything was ok, but once installed I try to login and it says Login incorrect
[16:20] <TJ-> niargh: Do you still have the option of fixing the problems with the Asus? Or have you disposed of it? Sometimes the fixes are trivial for experts
[16:20] <TJ-> lgr79: remember the login username + password you configured during installation
[16:20] <niargh> TJ-: still have the asus
[16:21] <TJ-> niargh: Have you had help trying to fix that? I'm wondering if you'd consider it worthwhile to fix that rather than write it off and buy another?
[16:22] <lgr79> TJ-: I've put the right username and password. I've reinstalled, put the same again on installation and the the same problem occurs
[16:22] <TJ-> lgr79: Any non-alpha-numeric or accented characters in the username or password? are either unusually long?
[16:22] <niargh> TJ-: happy try fixing, what do you recommend? [typing this on the very machine right now]
[16:22] <ujjain> What can I do if the Ubuntu installer does not see the hard disk? I already tried changing AHCI settings.
[16:23] <TJ-> niargh: That's progress! Tell us the exact make/model to begin with, we can look it up and see what bugs may already be reported against it, and/or workarounds
[16:23] <Erealz> hey guys quick question i need to install mono to get some .exe useing wine to work however i dont know witch mono file to install?
[16:23] <lgr79> TJ-: Username has 3 low-cap letters and 2 numbers, without spaces. Password has got 1 capitol letter, 1 low cap letter and 8 numbers, without spaces
[16:23] <Erealz> what would be the mono file im looking fore
[16:23] <Erealz> ?
[16:23] <niargh> CM6870-US-3AB
[16:24] <ikonia> Erealz: depends what your application wants. The mono website lists compatability
[16:24] <ikonia> Erealz: also why does wine care about mono - it's self contained
[16:24] <Erealz> hold ill get the out put of the error
[16:24] <trotro> cli binary don't need wine
[16:25] <TJ-> lgr79: That *is* strange! Have you tried altering the case, especially of the password. Sometimes, the shift key is/is not registered in time and a masked password ends up with CAPS being lower and/or lower being CAPS !
[16:25] <Erealz> wine: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[16:25] <lgr79> ujjain: does BIOS recognize them?
[16:25] <ikonia> Erealz: right, so that's saying the mono suite
[16:25] <niargh> TJ-: CM6870-US-3AB, was planning on using the on-board video, couldn't complete 12.04 desktop setup, so added an nvidia video board
[16:25] <Romulan> hello
[16:25] <TJ-> niargh: looking now
[16:25] <ujjain> igr79 Yes, I want to make a a dual install, Windows is already installed fine
[16:25] <Romulan> whats the issue ujjain??
[16:25] <ujjain> ubuntu install does not see hard disk
[16:25] <Erealz> sould i do a apt-cache search mono suit or what
[16:25] <ujjain> installer*
[16:25] <Erealz> there are so meny file that cameup i dont know witch is witch
[16:26] <Romulan> what are u now on?
[16:26] <lgr79> ujjain: have you tried ubuntu on live-cd and tried to mount hdd there?ç
[16:26] <ujjain> Igr79, there are no Linux partitions, just 1x150 NTFS and 150GB free disk space
[16:26] <Erealz> can some one tell me witch mono file is the suit ?
[16:26] <lgr79> ujjain: it's not a problem, ubuntu should mount ntfs partitions
[16:26] <ikonia> !mono
[16:26] <ujjain> I might be able to create the partitions via Gparted, 1x swap, 1x / ext4
[16:27] <Erealz> there no one file named monosuit
[16:27] <ikonia> Erealz: no, there isn't it's broken down into many ubuntu packages
[16:27] <resuremade> TJ-: hah, now it really doesn't works (after reboot too) :-D
[16:27] <ujjain> lgr79, ah, the new interface confuses me, there is no upper menu, nor a search option, I didn't evne know how to open console
[16:27] <TJ-> resuremade: "Doesn't work", or "Does" ?
[16:28] <TJ-> niargh: for starters, and our first lead, see bug #999910
[16:28] <Erealz> ok i found this mono-complete
[16:28] <resuremade> TJ-: I mean doesn't connect to SSH to)
[16:28] <Erealz> is that it?
[16:28] <trotro> ujjain, yes, the legned said that people understand bnetter that new interface (I'm sure that microsoft infiltrate ubuntu team to kill ubuntu from inside :D )
[16:28] <resuremade> *too
[16:28] <ikonia> Erealz: seems a good place to start
[16:28] <Erealz> k
[16:28] <bazhang> !behelpful | trotro
[16:28] <Erealz> damn thats a bunch of files
[16:28] <Romulan> ujjain. ur issue solved?
[16:28] <resuremade> TJ-: I think it's good time to get some practice with rescue image
[16:28] <ujjain> Romulan, no, I am planning to use gparted to create partitions
[16:28] <ujjain> and see if I can mount htem,
[16:29] <lgr79> TJ-: tried to type password in low-case and in capital, but no result. Still incorrect login
[16:29] <TJ-> resuremade: Ouch! maybe that's the fail2ban not putting its rules in? Those instructions to incorporate fail2ban into UFW might need re-checking to ensure you've got it correct.
[16:29] <Romulan> the GUI aint poppin up?
[16:29] <trotro> ubottu, shut up stupid bot
[16:29] <niargh> TJ-: yep, been there, and that's why I'm running 12.10
[16:29] <Romulan> are u using a virtual box?
[16:29] <resuremade> TJ-: I've removed fail2ban before
[16:29] <Romulan> are u installing ubunntu inside windows?
[16:30] <lgr79> ujjain: the first thing I'd try is to boot from a live-CD and check if Ubuntu see your hdd
[16:30] <niargh> TJ-: definitely more stable than 12.04.1, but still freezes...
[16:30] <resuremade> TJ-: I'm going to rescue my nginx configs and then install 12.04
[16:30] <ujjain> lgr79, I didn't see a hdd listed in the left menu, there is no upper menu, it just lists 5x office, settings, like 8 things in total
[16:30] <Romulan> hi bazhang.! :)
[16:31] <lgr79> ujjain: you should see a cabinet, like an old file storage cabinet on the left menu. There you can mount your hdd
[16:31] <TJ-> lgr79: Reboot. Hold the 'shift' key down immediately as the BIOS screens finish... that'll get you to the boot loader menu. Choose the Recovery option. When that boots, from the text menu choose "root shell". Let me know when you're there, if you can. If not, you'll do "passwd <username>" and set the password again. replace "<username>" with the user log-in, of course. Then "exit" and reboot normally
[16:31] <ujjain> There was no such cabinet for a hard disk.
[16:32] <TJ-> resuremade: Good luck, you're not having much success so far!
[16:32] <resuremade> TJ-: thanks
[16:33] <TJ-> niargh: Have you tried using one of the latest Linux kernels from the Ubuntu kernel team's PPA? e.g. I'm using 3.6rc7 right now
[16:34] <TJ-> niargh: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:35] <TJ-> niargh: I think this other report affects that system, too. bug #1034358
[16:35] <niargh> TJ-: looking, thanks, brb
[16:37] <TJ-> niargh: In both cases it seems that using a recent upstream kernel version is the solution
[16:39] <sosoman> hi
[16:40] <lgr79> TJ-: Holding shift key does nothing to the boot process. I have a strange keyboard, like the notebooks' one, so I'm going to change to a standard keyboard and try from there. Thank you for your support anyway. If I still have problems with the new keyboard, I'll be back here
[16:40] <TJ-> lgr79: Good luck!
[16:41] <TJ-> lgr79: sometimes, you have to hold/repeat-rapid-press the Shift key as the BIOS POST screens are finishing so the GRUB detects the key-press
[16:43] <niargh> TJ-: thanks, I'm a total noob WRT playing with != kernels, I'll read the links you sent me and will be back on the irc, thanks again.
[16:43] <TJ-> niargh: OK... before you go...
[16:43] <niargh> TJ-: yep?
[16:44] <TJ-> niargh: If you have a go at downloading and installing a v3.6 kernel, you'll need the linux-image, linux-image-extra and linux-headers packages for the architecture (i386 or amd64)
[16:44] <TJ-> niargh: in addition to the linux-header*all package
[16:45] <resuremade> TJ-: how do you think, what is the best for ubuntu server (nginx, postgres) with 1064 RAM, x86, or x64?
[16:45] <brohan_> What is the channel for beta version?
[16:45] <Pici> brohan_: #ubuntu+1
[16:45] <TJ-> resuremade: x86 (32-bit) if there is only 1GB or RAM
[16:45] <resuremade> ok
[16:45] <brohan_> thank you
[16:46] <lJ6il> Hello there. Sorry for my bad english in advance. I have to install a dual boot windows 7 + Ubuntu, on an empty computer. I know it's easier to install first windows and after ubuntu. But when we have to do it in the other way (ubuntu -> Win 7) what should i care of ?
[16:47] <niargh> TJ-: sounds a bit greek (me == kernel noob) but will write what you said down and it will hopefully make sense when I know more
[16:47] <lJ6il> Maybe i have to let an empty space at the beginning of the hdd, cause windows doesn't like starting on a second partition ?
[16:47] <TJ-> niargh: It boils down to downloading 4 debian (.deb) package files, then using "sudo dpkg -i <names of packages>" to install them! ... easy, really :)
[16:48] <OerHeks> lJ6il, ubuntu advises: install windows first
[16:48] <niargh> TJ-: I know a lot about apt-get, wow, it's that simple, even for kernels?
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> lJ6il, You can have a partition at the beginning of the disc for the future windows install a NTFS, the main reason for installing windows first is having it first on the disc for access for repiars.
[16:48] <TJ-> lJ6il: If you want to install Windows last, but still have the GRUB boot-loader aftewards, you can save the MBR (first sector of the disk) from Ubuntu then write it back using the liveISO (CD/USB) after Windows is installed
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> repairs*
[16:49] <fire_> my grub is missing after deleting other linux distro, now   how can i update re install again  ??
[16:50] <TJ-> lJ6il: The 'issue' with installing Windows last is it always installs its own boot-strap code into the MBR, replacing GRUBs. If we save GRUBs, we can put it back afterwards, and then once booted into Ubuntu do "sudo update-grub" and it'll add Windows to its menu
[16:50] <fire_> sudo update-grub ?
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> fire_, YOu can reload grub to the mbr from a live cd, or use supergrub to get into the ubuntu and reload it there at the desktop
[16:50] <KevinF> What is grub, really?
[16:50] <fire_> i m in live cd right now...
[16:51] <lJ6il> If it is just the problem of "erasing" Grub, it's not a problem for me :). Thanks for your answers about that. Is there another problem i should care of ?
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> KevinF, A bootloader
[16:51] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:51] <KevinF> ah
[16:51] <TJ-> Kevin`: GRand UNified bootloader
[16:51] <niargh> TJ-: groan, now I read what you said, dpkg, not apt-get, got it.
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, There is no need to save the mbr it can easily be reloaded.
[16:52] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: It can, but I find a simple "dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sdX" faster
[16:52] <aeiou> i've changed my datadir and turned apparmour to complain, not force but get the following error when i try to start mysql - any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HfrwDK9v
[16:52] <aeiou> i've changed my datadir and turned apparmour to complain, not force but get the following error when i try to start mysql - any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HfrwDK9v
[16:53] <aeiou> oops sorry for double post :)
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, That may be your method but not ever suggested here or in wikis, and has the chance of breaking the disc table if done incorrectly.
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> just saying ;)
[16:54] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: no, it doesn't. The saved MBR is less than 440 bytes - just the boot-strap code (partition table is left intact)
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Yes if done correctly. ;)
[16:55] <Phinnay> is there anything in ubuntu that would be blocking a request to create a TCP port from PHP?
[16:55] <Phinnay> i know there is an issue with root for ports LOWER than a certain number, the port in question is 2324
[16:56] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: You can get 'dd' for win32 and run it from Windows to restore the MBR, don't need to boot a supergrub or liveISO even
[16:56] <Phinnay> think that is above whatever the rooot thingy is
[16:56] <ujjain> How do I get into the console from the Ubuntu Live DVD?
[16:56] <veryape> ujjain: ctrl+alt+1
[16:56] <veryape> should work
[16:56] <TJ-> Phinnay: Is the process unprivileged? Is it requesting a port below 1024?
[16:56] <lJ6il> or ctrl+alt+f1
[16:57] <Mir09> aieou, try with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127264/installed-12-04-cant-start-mysql-mysql-respawning-too-fast-stopped
[16:57] <veryape> f1, ofcourse
[16:57] <veryape> sorry
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Phinnay,  maybe your router , does it have application support ?
[16:57] <TJ-> Phinnay: OK ... just noticed your comment! How about apparmor?
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, My point here is that is a old school method not suggested by and large is all, there are easier methods that allow user to have tools in  their kits they should have. ;)
[16:57] <Mir09> aeiou, try with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127264/installed-12-04-cant-start-mysql-mysql-respawning-too-fast-stopped
[16:57] <ujjain> thanks :)
[16:57] <ujjain> /dev/sda1 - SystemHPFS/NTFS/exFat :-(
[16:58] <lgr79> ujjain, what does your last post means?
[16:58] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: I know, I was half trying to ensure the user understands the underlying reason and process and how simple the solution is, regardless of tools used.
[16:58] <Phinnay> TJ i disabled Apparmor
[16:58] <ujjain> ah, I misinterepreted lgr79 , I thought I had a wrong partition table
[16:59] <lgr79> okç
[16:59] <aeiou> Mir09, will try - thanks!
[16:59] <TJ-> Phinnay: Anything else on that port already? Anything logged to /var/log/syslog or /var/log/auth.log ?
[16:59] <Phinnay> nah, nothing else on it, nothing logged in either of those areas :(
[16:59] <Mir09> aeiou, :)
[16:59] <seedymac> lsof -i tcp |grep port#
[17:00] <ujjain> lgr79, the installer still does not see the device.
[17:00] <lgr79> TJ-, how do you check if there's something else on a certain port?
[17:00] <TJ-> Phinnay: You say a request from PHP... do you mean the PHP interpreter running solo, or a PHP web-app running under apache for example?
[17:00] <lgr79> ujjain, but did you mount it on ubuntu live?
[17:00] <TJ-> lgr79: "sudo netstat -ntlap | grep <portnumber>" helps
[17:00] <ujjain> lgr79, no, should I make the partitions via fdisk?
[17:00] <lgr79> thank you, TJ-
[17:00] <Phinnay> PHP webapp running under Apache
[17:01] <lgr79> ujjain, no. Do you have got free space disk?
[17:01] <TJ-> Phinnay: And you want to create a server port? Or an outgoing connect to a remote port?
[17:01] <ujjain> lgr79, Yes, there is half free
[17:01] <aeiou> Mir09, no luck :)
[17:01] <Phinnay> TJ- the script connects to a remote server and pulls information from a TCP socket that the script then displays in a web form
[17:01] <chemist^> hello everyone...i've got a question regarding animation effects in compiz-fusion ... i would like to set the "burn" effect when closing a window... but only if the window is not maximized.... how do i do that? help please :)
[17:02] <bazhang> chemist^, try in #compiz
[17:02] <lgr79> ujjain, it's strange. Anyway, like i'd say, I'd try to mount it on a live cd before. Try Kubuntu, or Fedora
[17:02] <TJ-> Phinnay: is port 2324 on the remote server?
[17:02] <Phinnay> TJ- yes, and i made a typo, its is 8283 on the remote server
[17:02] <chemist^> bazhang, i did...but noone answers... everyone is silent :) thought i might find my answer here
[17:03] <|Anthony|> anyone here know how to change the default user session when auto-login. Nothing i've tried has worked.
[17:03] <kodo> does exist a manager for cpu hd and fun in order to make my battery's life get longer?
[17:03] <TJ-> Phinnay: If the connection is being blocked by the local host, then I'd expect to see reports in the apache and/or php log-files. You may need to increase/enable logging in PHP (php.ini) for the apache host and restart apache to get anything useful
[17:03] <chemist^> it shouldn't be hard to set things as i want them too.... i just don't know what option to type in
[17:03] <Phinnay> TJ- if i telnet fromt he bash prompt to the remote server:port it connects just fine
[17:04] <TJ-> Phinnay: Can you connect to port 8283 on the remote server using something like telnet? That would prove your issue is with PHP/apache
[17:04] <Phinnay> is why im thinking its an apache permissions issue or something else weird
[17:04] <TJ-> Phinnay: You're ahead of me - I like it! :)
[17:04] <TJ-> Phinnay: As you obviously know, outgoing ports shouldn't be prevented by policy but they *might* be blocked in the local host firewall?
[17:05] <ujjain> lgr79, I am booting Fedora :)
[17:05] <Phinnay> TJ- i dont belve so, a windows PC running WAMP sitting on the same local network runs the script just fine
[17:05] <ujjain> lgr79, it works via console, I created 2 partitions and I can mount via console
[17:05] <lgr79> ujjain, OK
[17:05] <TJ-> Phinnay: OK... what PHP library function is being used to make the connection?
[17:05] <Phinnay> TJ- socket_create();
[17:05] <lgr79> ujjain. Are you using the console in Fedora?
[17:06] <chemist^> hello everyone...i've got a question regarding animation effects in compiz-fusion ... i would like to set the "burn" effect when closing a window... but only if the window is not maximized.... how do i do that? help please :) i know how to access the editing window, but don't know the option command to enable it only for non-maximized windows
[17:06] <ujjain> lgr79, I used console in Ubuntu, it worked fine
[17:06] <ujjain> the installer is the problem
[17:06] <ujjain> it does not see the hard disk
[17:06] <TJ-> Phinnay: Sometimes the local firewall has outgoing rules that block connections outbound from the apache process/user
[17:06] <Mir09> aeiou, check in your config file if the default character set to UTF8, because if is UTF-8 maybe can make some error..
[17:07] <Phinnay> TJ- I spoke with the PHP channel people and the Apache channel people, both seem to think that its not a problem with their respective software
[17:07] <identity> Hello. I have a fresh installation of 12.04 and want to get dual monitor support with xmonad. It works with unity right now -- but what configuration files is it that this "Displays" configuration utility is modifying to change the monitor layout, exactly?
[17:07] <Phinnay> TJ- and i've connected the server directly to our static IP as a test, no router / firewall and it still does not work
[17:07] <identity> I have an ATI radeon graphics card.
[17:07] <lgr79> ujjain, I don't know what might be the problem, but you can try to create a primary partition and a swap partition and check if now the installer see the hdd
[17:08] <rhizmoe> identity: #xmonad would probably be a good channel for that question
[17:08] <TJ-> Phinnay: Are there no netfilters rules on the apache server host? Have you checked just-in-case?! ("iptables -nL")
[17:09] <TJ-> Phinnay: Have you added code to report the system error that socket_create() is returning? That could give a clue as to what is going wrong more precisely
[17:10] <TJ-> Phinnay: "Use socket_last_error(). This error code may be passed to socket_strerror() to get a textual explanation of the error. "
[17:10] <Romulan> ==<ujjain>
[17:10] <Romulan> == <ujjain>
[17:10] <Phinnay> TJ- the iptables command shows everything is blank, a socket_last_error() just shows a timeout[104]
[17:11] <TJ-> Phinnay: Which suggests its creating the local socket OK
[17:11] <identity> rhizmoe: Well, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure where to start. Should I start by getting xmonad functional, and *then* get dual-monitor support from there? What exactly is it that manages stuff like displays -- surely it isn't the window manager?
[17:11] <Romulan> == whois <ujjain>
[17:11] <ujjain>  lgr79 I created those partitiions, didn't work, I am going to try see if it's dmraid related
[17:12] <|Anthony|> anyone here know how to change the default user session?
[17:12] <lgr79> ujjain, OK. Good luck, I can't help you anymore, no more knowledge on my side
[17:12] <TJ-> Phinnay: I think its time for tcpdump on the server's outgoing interface to see if it actually is doing SYN SYN-ACK ESTABLISHED
[17:12] <luist> can anyone help me with deb package building? i have a Qt project like this https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/qsparql/trees/master with a src folder… how do i create the basics (debian folder). do i must create the tar.gz first?
[17:13] <Phinnay> ok, i will try that... you are right, if it is getting a timeout than it must be creating the socket....
[17:13] <ujjain> I have it !!
[17:13] <ujjain> lgr79, I found it, I had to run  sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda
[17:14] <ujjain> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1883583 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389217
[17:14] <ujjain> Google helped me, I don't know why! but I had to remove raid blabla data, I am only using 1 disk
[17:14] <lgr79> ujjain, nice! Thank you for the info, it'd be useful in the future
[17:14] <Phinnay> TJ- Warning: socket_write(): unable to write to socket [104]: Connection reset by peer
[17:14] <Phinnay> TJ- that is the error I am getting now from the script
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> luist, This probably better asked in ##linux this is ubuntu support
[17:16] <luist> wilee-nilee: im trying to make a ubuntu DEB package!?!?!??!!
[17:16] <luist> wilee-nilee: using UBUNTU package build tools?!??!?!?!
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> luist, I doubt you will get the help you need here just a suggestion.;)
[17:16] <overclucker> Phinnay: whats the return value of socket_connect?
[17:17] <Phinnay> overclucker Resource id #3
[17:17] <luist> wilee-nilee: oh well… if UBUNTU channel cant help to make a UBUNTU package than maybe i should just use another system????!?!??!
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> luist, And there is no need to to over punctuate we can understand your goals.
[17:18] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[17:18] <niargh> TJ-: argh, machine crashed yet again & lost all your recommendations. Now using a windows box, eek!
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | luist
[17:18] <TJ-> Phinnay: That error may be because you're trying to write to a socket that hasn't been opened. You need to detect the failed socket_create() and handle that immediately without continuing to the socket_write()
[17:18] <TJ-> niargh: hang on. I'll retrieve them from my local log-file and send them to you privately
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> don't bite the hand that helps.
[17:18] <niargh> TJ-: thx!
[17:18] <bazhang> !packaging | luist
[17:19] <Phinnay> TJ- i guess my confusion is, the script works perfectly on a windows server with WAMP - what is different about how linux is doing things?
[17:19] <Agalloch> Hi guys, can you please help me with this error? all is here: I get disconnect from IMAP : http://pastebin.com/Npqwwi8z
[17:19] <luist> bazhang: ive read these tuts… they are bad...
[17:19] <Phinnay> TJ- and i admittedly do not do much with sockets in PHP so i am not that farmillar with operation to begin with
[17:19] <luist> bazhang: well at least very few things make sense when you are used to RPM packing
[17:20] <bobweaver> lu I just showed up and am not the best packager but what are you trying to package ?
[17:20] <Iceman_B> any techs in the house?
[17:20] <bobweaver> luist, *  I just showed up and am not the best packager but what are you trying to package ?
[17:20] <bazhang> Iceman_B, just ask the channel
[17:20] <luist> bobweaver: a qt project… which creates 1 binary
[17:20] <lgr79> TJ-, Ubuntu Server login now works OK with the new keyboard. Thank you for your assistance
[17:20] <Iceman_B> i'm curious about how secure wiping a drive is with DBAN as opposed to using DD(from a usb live image or something)
[17:20] <Iceman_B> *dd
[17:21] <bobweaver> luist,  qtcreator has deb pulgins
[17:21] <overclucker> Phinnay: does nc -vvl 8283 give any info if you connect to it?
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Iceman_B, dban is a dd
[17:21] <bobweaver> luist,  is it on launchpad git ect ?
[17:21] <TJ-> Phinnay: hehehe that's what we're trying to find out - what *is* different! The process is logical and trying to reduce the problem area to pinpoint the issue
[17:21] <luist> bobweaver: well im going to upload to git, why
[17:21] <TJ-> overclucker: Phinnay reported earlier he can telnet to the remote, too
[17:21] <TJ-> lgr79: Glad you got it tamed :p
[17:21] <bobweaver> luist,  I would look at it and see what going on
[17:22] <luist> bobweaver: oh its a local git server
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> Iceman_B, dban dd's multiple times
[17:22] <Iceman_B> wilee-nilee: ......seriously?
[17:22] <Phinnay> TJ- i understand, stuff like this is so frustrating! :D
[17:22] <mschr> Hello chaps, my unity is very lossy rendered and lacks 3d i believe
[17:22] <Iceman_B> that makes me feel sorta dumb
[17:22] <TJ-> Phinnay: which is why being methodical always helps :)
[17:22] <luist> bobweaver: couldnt find anything related to qtcreator and debs… all tuts that i find do the stuff manually
[17:23] <Iceman_B> I;m going to clock in like 6 hours doing a random-write wipe with DBAN
[17:23] <Iceman_B> on a 120G drive
[17:23] <mschr> since distupgrade (involving precise + unity) the animation of fading / shrinking windows are even laggy
[17:23] <TJ-> Phinnay: If you could pastebin an excerpt from the code around socket_create() I can re-post you the code I'd add to it, for diagnosis
[17:23] <Iceman_B> its a laptopdrive, mind you but still
[17:23] <bobweaver> luist,  ok well then , maybe read the debian new maintians guide ,
[17:23] <Phinnay> TJ- ok, i will do that, hold on
[17:24] <mschr> System Settings > Details > Graphics > Driver = VESA: M82, however
[17:24] <oquidave> hello guys, am planning to download ubuntu...what is the most stable version with gnome2 and is a dvd iso
[17:24] <mschr> glxinfo: OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, direct rendering: Yes
[17:25] <bobweaver> luist,  if you want to make a easy deb out of the binary that you have you can mimic the system that you want to install on then make a make file that tells to install in $(DESTDIR)     and it will install on the end users that way but that is more of a half / way of doing it
[17:26] <dev___> hello?
[17:26] <dev___> i need help
[17:26] <Phinnay> TJ- http://pastebin.com/dA2uzD6y
[17:26] <bobweaver> !ask | dev___
[17:26] <dev___> how would i check if my wifi chips drivers are indeed updated
[17:27] <dev___> with the new compiled one i compiled and installed
[17:27] <TJ-> luist: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/63158/how-to-create-a-debian-source-package-with-qt-creator
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> oquidave, 10.04 is the last long term it is supported for about 7 more months with the desktop.
[17:27] <TJ-> Phinnay: looking
[17:27] <esolyt> is there any way i can use ubuntu with up to date software (latest version of gimp, latest version chromium, latest version of pidgin etc)? i do not want up to date kernel, gtk etc. i just want non-essential parts of the system up to date.
[17:28] <oquidave> wilee-nilee: thanks
[17:28] <mschr> none have an idea of why unity thinks its using VESA, even if ATI card driver FGLRX otherwise is working?
[17:29] <abimael> Is there a way to prevent Ubuntu from maintaining Any Logs at all, like from my web browser or certain application?
[17:30] <TJ-> Phinnay: OK, makeConnection() looks good. When it is used, is it immediately returning an error (via  $eSTR)? If it isn't and yet the socket_write() fails, then it isn't a simple connection-failed error.
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> abimael  system settings - privacy
[17:32] <JessicaW> will NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet work native on lucid if I install linux-firmware or am I going to have to backport as well?
[17:33] <dev___> Can anyone help with dual boot. And the bootloader failing or grub failing to install
[17:34] <resuremade> Hetzner VPS Ubuntu installation is so slow (40 minutes and still continues)
[17:34] <TJ-> resuremade: How is it installing? network or from a VPS-local ISO?
[17:34] <Agalloch> Hi guys, can you please help me with this error? all is here: I get disconnect from IMAP : http://pastebin.com/Npqwwi8z
[17:35] <resuremade> TJ-: auto installation via vps-local ISO.
[17:36] <TJ-> resuremade: They probably limit CPU slices - doubt it'd be I/O throttling on the local
[17:36] <Chamalot> SAlut
[17:37] <AutistiCucumber> I wanna kill Canonical. Amazon Ads Suck
[17:37] <dev___> Ads are what pay for my village for a year
[17:38] <TJ-> Agalloch: From what I've read, courier IMAP won't create mailbox directories until that mailbox receives its first email. Maybe you need to send an email to that mailbox first?
[17:39] <resuremade> TJ-: maybe. But it's still too long for minimal installation (hetzner vq12; http://smerity.com/articles/2012/hetzner.html — it's vq6)
[17:39] <Phinnay> TJ- I have a meeting right now, i will be back in a little while, thank you very much for all the help so far :D
[17:40] <TJ-> Phinnay: Good luck. Get the tcpdump for when you return!
[17:40] <davidj_dc> is this a good channel to ask an Upstart question?
[17:40] <TJ-> resuremade: Hmmm, what's it showing on the console, or can't you see that?
[17:41] <resuremade> TJ-: the problem is I can't connect to console :-D
[17:41] <Agalloch> TJ- i tried send mail to new users via localhost and via my normal email. Nothing :-(
[17:41] <mschr> Agalloch, install wireshark / tcpdump - and filter out the pop3/imap communication. Mail server should inform email-client what error is occurring
[17:42] <ohzie> Does anybody know how to make nautilus just never run the desktop, without giving it '--no-desktop' ?
[17:42] <TJ-> mschr: The error is in the server log. It's figuring out *why* is Agalloch's problem :)
[17:42] <TJ-> resuremade: weird! not even via their remote local console option?
[17:42] <klglhkhhhh> are there media players available on ubuntu besides vlc, that are controllable via smartphone?
[17:43] <resuremade> TJ-: their remote local console is 404 :-(
[17:43] <mschr> tj ahalloch the server log is missing something, the mail-header parse will tell when disconnect occurs
[17:43] <Agalloch> mschr its like server cannot create directiries for new users /mailboxes
[17:43] <Agalloch> but ill do what you said
[17:44] <TJ-> Agalloch: You can use telnet to do a manual session to the server. I often use that to determine issues
[17:51] <Kikinaak> Hi guys. I'm having a bit of trouble with my wifi. ubuntu 12.04 fresh install using the ahtlon 64 bit alternate. wifi is an atheros AR9285. the thing will connect, then drop. my record is about 10 seconds.
[17:52] <Scunizi> For some reason Gimp will no longer load.  Trying from CLI I get the following warning.. How do I fix this? (gimp:23331): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.30.0/./glib/goption.c:2168: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0
[17:52] <TJ-> Kikinaak: There are several known bugs (and workarounds). Review these:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux?field.searchtext=AR9285
[17:53] <HackinBlack> hello
[17:53] <HackinBlack> ?
[17:53] <eodchop> can someone tell me what a terminal is? i keep finding instructions to go the a terminal. all i have is a laptop...my grandson installed this ubutu on my pc and now i cant find anything
[17:54] <bazhang> !terminal | eodchop
[17:54] <bazhang> eodchop, ctrl atl T to get one
[17:54] <Scunizi> eodchop: terminal is a black window you type command into
[17:54] <eodchop> can i open internet explorer from there? i want to read my msn mail
[17:54] <NoNaMeNo> Hi, how stable is ubuntu 12.10 beta 2 ?
[17:55] <HackinBlack> not stable
[17:55] <bazhang> !12.10 | NoNaMeNo
[17:55] <Scunizi> eodchop: internet explorer is not on Ubuntu.. you have to use Chrome or Firefox
[17:55] <NoNaMeNo> bazhang: thanks
[17:56] <HackinBlack> anyone know how to adjust the terminal text when i put it in fullscreen to use the more width
[17:56] <JessicaW> how do you install a BCM57810 network card on lucid?
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> Kikinaak, With a quick look on google using that card and 12.04 I see some info, none mentioning a alternative.
[17:57] <HackinBlack>  anyone know how to adjust the terminal text when i
[17:57] <HackinBlack>                      put it in fullscreen to use the more width
[17:58] <bazhang> HackinBlack, patience
[17:58] <TJ-> HackinBlack: See "man stty"
[17:59] <Kikinaak> ya I'm seeing a lot of complaints but not much for a fix
[17:59] <Agalloch> TJ- just a question, can be mysql binded or 2 ip (127.0.0.1 and 0.0.0.0 ) ?
[18:00] <Kikinaak> I did find a fix to a similar problem that involved modprobing the iwlwifi driver, then learned that it wouldnt help me because my card doenst use that driver. I'm a linux noob. I know theres a command to show what drivers are running for what hardware, but know not what it is. how do I see whats driving my wifi card?
[18:00] <HackinBlack> Not finding anything on man stty
[18:00] <HackinBlack> with google
[18:01] <sylvie_> Hello i installed flashplugin-installer, opera and firefox detects flash plugins but flash content doesn't works (ff shows nothing, and opera show a "pluging crashed message with "pluging don't have SIGILL" or something like that), can someone help me plz
[18:01] <HackinBlack> reinstall plugin?
[18:01] <sylvie_> HackinBlack,  already did
[18:02] <TJ-> Agalloch: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-options.html#option_mysqld_bind-address
[18:02] <HackinBlack> ah well then you are left with the option to just blow up the computer.
[18:02] <sylvie_> i tryed to purge & reinstall flashplugin-installer, tryed to install from taz.gz from adobe, tryed with flashaid plugin for firefox, all have the same result
[18:02] <bazhang> !behelpful | HackinBlack
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, Flashaid is not up to date or supported, have you installed the restricted extras it has flash other media codecs and some MS fonts.
[18:03] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I helped someone else earlier this week with that same device. Those bug reports I referred you to, recommend in part disabling the hardware encryption support. Have you tried setting the option for that ?
[18:04] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, no, i test will all checked
[18:04] <sylvie_> brb
[18:04] <Kikinaak> TJ-: still going through the reports. havent seen mention of hardware encryption
[18:04] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I'll review and find it for you
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, What is the desktop you are running?
[18:06] <Kikinaak> thanks
[18:07] <Enom> o/ all
[18:07] <JessicaW> how do you install a BCM57810 network card on lucid?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom > JessicaW here is some boroadcom info
[18:08] <erkan^> how add I a panel in Gnome Classic (with effect)? Alt doesn't work
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom > JessicaW
[18:08] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, 11.10
[18:08] <JessicaW> wilee-nilee: thanks but that's for wifi.
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, That is some broadcom info
[18:09] <goafenny> i want to buy ubuntu computer $
[18:09] <Netwo> anyone here knows about SARG Report ??
[18:09] <Curious_Cube> I do not no.
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, that is a ethernet card you posted
[18:10] <JessicaW> wilee-nilee: it's only going to be semi relevant. huge difference between wifi drivers and firmware required for 10 gigabit cards.
[18:10] <goafenny> i want to buy ubuntu computer around 700$
[18:10] <goafenny> can anyone help
[18:10] <Enom> goafenny: Any local computer store can help you out with that.
[18:10] <Calinou> just buy a computer without an OS
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, Is it the unity desktop with a panel on the left of the screen, I ask as there are restricted extras attached to the desktop used.
[18:10] <bobweaver> goafenny,  you haved tried system 76 and puguet sound ?
[18:10] <Calinou> (beware, this is hard)
[18:10] <Calinou> very
[18:10] <Calinou> and usually, shops tend to make money off linux users
[18:11] <Calinou> they know that business
[18:11] <Curious_Cube> No. You can help me buying an iPhone.goafenny...
[18:11] <HackinBlack> geofenny your best bet is to just make a custom one and not buy a os
[18:11] <Calinou> buying an apple product
[18:11] <Calinou> hahaha
[18:11] <Calinou> HackinBlack: +1
[18:11] <Curious_Cube> Linux is free and Opeeeeeeeeeeeen.
[18:11] <goafenny> bob weaver someone told me buy amd cause its boss is generous
[18:11] <Calinou> goafenny: btw: have a nvidia graphics card - not amd
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, Cool you did mention firmware need until now.
[18:11] <Calinou> AMD sucks
[18:11] <Calinou> it's terrible
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> did not*
[18:11] <Calinou> their drivers can't draw lines
[18:11] <trism> erkan^: try alt+super+right click
[18:11] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <Calinou> no u FloodBot1
[18:11] <Curious_Cube> Come to linux leave fucking windows...
[18:11] <bazhang> Calinou, stop that
[18:12] <pe_ropeno> hello ppl
[18:12] <erkan^> thx trism (-:
[18:12] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, don't think so, i use gnome and cairo-dock (macos like taskbar)
[18:12] <bazhang> Curious_Cube, no cursing here
[18:12] <Enom> What the hate...
[18:12] <Calinou> Curious_Cube: UEFI would beg to differ :P
[18:12] <bobweaver> goafenny,  check outhttp://www.pugetsystems.com/  they are good
[18:12] <TJ-> Kikinaak: there's mention of using "nohwcrypt=0" but I see this comment suggests a fix is in the precise-backports repository already. You can enable that from "Software Sources" in the Software Center. Then see this comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773154/comments/50
[18:13] <BluesKaj> goafenny, https://www.system76.com/community/video/
[18:13] <Curious_Cube> It seems to me that FireFox is faster than Chromium.
[18:13] <Enom> When I go to install a package I get some dependency message that I can't quite understand...
[18:13] <Calinou> chromium is much faster than firefox, it is not that bloated
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, Cool so the package is the ubuntu-restricted-extras if you have not found it yet.
[18:13] <pe_ropeno> i have a brightness problem. do U vvanna help?
[18:13] <Calinou> Enom: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:13] <Calinou> pe_ropeno: don't ask to ask just ask
[18:13] <bobweaver> Enom,  can you paste the message to PASTEBIN ?
[18:14] <Enom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254433/
[18:14] <Kikinaak> TJ-: I'm afraid thats a bit over my head. I also have no way of getting this machine to connect to get the backports. Now the nohwcrypt=0 option I could try but I do not know how to find what module is running my card
[18:14] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  ok it s installing
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | Calinou For the one trillionth use of the word bloated lol
[18:15] <bobweaver> Enom,  how about    apt-cache policy php5-curl | pastebinit
[18:15] <goafenny> bobwhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1254433/thanks
[18:15] <pe_ropeno> i can't adjust brightness on my hp6735s. any advice is good :)
[18:15] <TJ-> Kikinaak: "lspci -vvvnn | grep -A 12 AR9285"
[18:16] <Curious_Cube> Is there any book on Ubuntu for beginner users?
[18:16] <bazhang> !manual > Curious_Cube
[18:16] <Enom> lol bobweaver , didn't know there was a package that would pastebin stuff automatically. XD Thanks, give me a minute.
[18:16] <bobweaver> Curious_Cube, Yes it is in software center
[18:17] <Enom> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254438/
[18:17] <niargh> TJ-: uname -r => 3.6.0-030600rc7-generic crossing fingers
[18:17] <Curious_Cube> What's it?
[18:17] <TJ-> Kikinaak: It'll be "ath9k"
[18:17] <TJ-> niargh: Good luck :p
[18:17] <CharlieSu> Curious_Cube: I've got a manual.  You can buy it from me on PayPal :)
[18:17] <shomon> how do I make a service not start at startup?
[18:17] <pe_ropeno> so no help for my brightness problem
[18:17] <niargh> TJ-: any special instrumentation I can install to help if/when it crashes next?
[18:17] <shomon> I usually use "service stop apache2"
[18:17] <Kikinaak> TJ-: ath9k sound about right to you?
[18:17] <bobweaver> Enom,  it is the repo that you have installed that is breaking up you package management (andphe)
[18:17] <vvpalin> sure whats your paypal e-mail ?
[18:17] <Enom> bobweaver: and here's my php5-common http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254441/
[18:18] <shomon> but can I do it automatically
[18:18] <shomon> ?
[18:18] <Kikinaak> bah, missed earlier comment nevermind
[18:18] <Curious_Cube> I have no money to buy anything and I want free and open manuals.
[18:18] <bazhang> !manual | Curious_Cube
[18:18] <bobweaver> shomon,  sudo service apache2 restart
[18:18] <Enom> bobweaver: Because of maverick?
[18:19] <pe_ropeno> i have flash crash problem on my 11.04 firefox and chrome
[18:20] <bobweaver> Enom,  nope it is the ppa having different versions of stuff and when they install they use something called a "control"  file this looks and tells what deps are needed but if it can not fill the deps then it gives you thouse error messages
[18:20] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  still have same result
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> pe_ropeno, Note the 11.04 goes end of life on oct 28th
[18:21] <Enom> So then I might technically meet all of the dependencies?
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, So you get errors when flash is needed?
[18:21] <TJ-> niargh: It's worth checking /var/log/kern.log (or kern.log.1) immediately after restarting for clues... check the timestamps of the log-entries, see if there's anything suggesting errors rather than 'normal' info
[18:21] <pe_ropeno> wilee nilee yeah i know. i-m installing 12.04 right now. hopeing it will work
[18:22] <niargh> TJ-: got it, thanks again for the help.
[18:22] <TJ-> Kikinaak: yes, ath9k. You can try adding the nohwcrypt option. See bug #568090
[18:23] <TJ-> Kikinaak: The ath5k and ath9k modules have the same option to control similar internal hardware in the chips
[18:23] <TJ-> Kikinaak: make sure to replace any mention of "ath5k" with "ath9k" of course!
[18:23] <Netwo> i need SARG REPORT GENERATOR help PLease !
[18:24] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  only with opera : "OPERA-CRASHLOG V1 desktop 12.02 1578 unix Linux-i386
[18:24] <sylvie_> /usr/lib/opera/pluginwrapper/operapluginwrapper-native got signal SIGILL at address 0201AE20"
[18:24] <Curious_Cube> SARG?
[18:24] <Curious_Cube> SARG=?
[18:24] <Enom> bobweaver: Thanks-you for the insight. I at least know where to point myself now. :)
[18:24] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  firefoex just show a blank space where flash content should be
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_ Hmm If it were me I would purge opera and reload it, but that is me.
[18:25] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  you mean close + reopen ?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, Are you using a flash block in FF like noscript?
[18:25] <TJ-> Netwo: "sudo apt-get install sarg" then "man 1 sarg"
[18:25] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  don't think so, i've just installed it today and changed nothing
[18:26] <sylvie_> so except if ff blocks flash by default , no
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, You would close and reopen after the restricted install, to be honest I'm not your best help here with this probably, other then getting the restricted installed, but you did some work already that may be part of the problem.
[18:28] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, i ve reopen both browser after each step. But i try a reboot, brb
[18:30] <Kikinaak> TJ-: just tried popping that argument into ath9k using modprobe. it now connects, then a few seconds later disconnects. it got me on long enough to load a web page then cut out. it keeps coming up and asking me for the network key
[18:31] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I think you need to try the updated compat-wireless drivers, from the precise-backports repository
[18:31] <mschr> kikinaak $ echo "options nohwcrypt=X" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[18:31] <TJ-> Kikinaak: ... I see this comment suggests a fix is in the precise-backports repository already. You can enable that from "Software Sources" in the Software Center. Then see this comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773154/comments/50
[18:31] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, back after a comp reboot, and nothing changed :(
[18:32] <Kikinaak> how do I get em to the machine if I cant get it to connect?
[18:32] <Kikinaak> theres no way it will hold a connection long enough to download the backport
[18:32] <TJ-> Kikinaak: download them manually on another machine (even Windows) and move them across via USB flash storage?
[18:32] <FKppi> Hi, i'm having a problem with my graphic card(AMD RADEON 6630M) in ubuntu... when i update kernel i'm having problems with graphics and i have to reinstall fglrx...
[18:33] <Kikinaak> thats a trick I've yet to learn
[18:33] <FKppi> Could someone help me?
[18:33] <TJ-> Kikinaak: let me know what that system reports for "uname -a" and I'll find the packages for you
[18:33] <iDangerMouse> FKppi: did you install Catalyst from the Software Center?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, Not sure to be honest there are some variables here, a tar install, was this actually installed for one the use of flashaid.  What I do know is that on every fresh install I have done the restrited extras work so not sure what the block is here, others can help I suspect who know how to use the terminal probably to look.
[18:34] <Curious_Cube> Can I run Firefox and Firefox Aurora simultaneously?
[18:34] <iDangerMouse> FKppi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[18:35] <FKppi> iDangerMouse, i have installed it with 'apt-get install fglrx-updates'
[18:35] <Kikinaak> TJ-: 3.2.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:16:45 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:35] <iDangerMouse> FKppi: Whats it doing ?
[18:36] <TJ-> Kikinaak: give me a moment
[18:36] <Kikinaak> TJ-: thanks
[18:36] <bobweaver> !info fglrx-amdcccle > bobweaver
[18:37] <HackinBlack> How many of you guys dual boot?
[18:37] <Curious_Cube> I have dual boo.
[18:37] <HackinBlack> with windows 7?
[18:38] <iDangerMouse> I have Windows 7, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studios, and Windows XP
[18:38] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  ok thanks anyway for you help.  But i have some pixmap warning when i lunch opera in debug mode (dont know how to do it with firefox) : can i be related to my pb, what's pixmap ?  http://pastebin.com/if85QD5S
[18:38] <Curious_Cube> Yes
[18:38] <FKppi> thanks iDangerMouse, this(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) should help me
[18:38] <LasOz> I dual boot too.
[18:38] <HackinBlack> I couldnt get dual to work :(
[18:38] <iDangerMouse> FKppi: You welcome !
[18:39] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee,  Impossible de trouver le moteur de thème dans   =    imposible to found the theme engine in
[18:39] <LasOz> What went wrong HackinBlack, I might've had the same problem.
[18:39] <Curious_Cube> Can I run Mac with Ubuntu?
[18:39] <iDangerMouse> ,Dual boot >> http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> sylvie_, I can't really help beyond this. ;)
[18:39] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: Yes
[18:39] <HackinBlack> well first when i tried side by side or alongside method the grub failed and gave me a option to install elsewhere
[18:39] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[18:39] <HackinBlack> But it never worked i would just load into windows
[18:39] <samflynn> всем привет
[18:39] <Pici> !ru | samflynn
[18:39] <bekks> !ru ¦ samflynn
[18:40] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[18:40] <sylvie_> wilee-nilee, ok thanks anyway, i'll give up for today cya
[18:40] <HackinBlack> I have tried that tutorial it doesnt work for m
[18:40] <HackinBlack> e
[18:40] <sayers> Привет
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> HackinBlack, If you can actually decsribe the problem you may get help, what you have done where you are at and what is actually installed and how it was installed
[18:40] <Curious_Cube> Thanks....
[18:40] <samflynn> это русскоговорящий чат?
[18:40] <sayers> нет :(
[18:41] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: Or run a virtual machine :)
[18:41] <HackinBlack> right now i only have ubuntu installed on whole hdd. Would it be easyer to just install windows and half unallocated and then install ubuntu?
[18:41] <LasOz> HackinBlack: I dual booted on my old PC and it was fine, worked like a breeze. On my new computer I left it "installing" over night and the screen was still blank black so I forced a shut down. When I booting I got the dual boot screen but booting into Linux black screens and nothing happens.
[18:41] <samflynn> понял спасибо сейчас разберусь
[18:41] <sayers> samflynn: заходите в #ubuntu-ru
[18:41] <samflynn> ага понял спасибо
[18:42] <Curious_Cube> I cant deal with virtual machine.
[18:42] <HackinBlack> yea i am on a new laptop
[18:42] <eixV> was haet ar sacht?
[18:42] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: Oh okay, I have 4 cores... :P
[18:42] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:42] <Curious_Cube> I had virtual machine on win-7 but i could not make it work?
[18:43] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: WMware is way better than virrtualbox
[18:43] <HackinBlack> Curious i had virtual machine on windows also but it was laggy. and i have 4 cores, 8gb ram :(
[18:43] <HackinBlack> ok processor
[18:43] <bobweaver> Qemu all the way !!
[18:43] <sayers> how much of them did you allocated to the virtual machine ?
[18:44] <iDangerMouse> 2gb and 1 core, and 20gb virtual HDD
[18:44] <HackinBlack> 2 core and about 3gb ram
[18:44] <sayers> be sure to install the graphics drivers too man
[18:44] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: That's a lot
[18:44] <Curious_Cube> I have intel core 2 duo processor and 1 gb ram .
[18:44] <Curious_Cube> I ve 500 gb hdd.
[18:44] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: If you had 4Gb ram you have allocated, 1 core , 1 gb , and 20gb hdd virtual
[18:45] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I need to figure out the paths; do you have 10 minutes?
[18:45] <HackinBlack> i have amd a6-3500 quad
[18:45] <Kikinaak> TJ-: no problem
[18:46] <HackinBlack> it sucks
[18:46] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: Install VMware not virtualbox
[18:46] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: Then Catalyst for AMD graphic card.
[18:46] <Curious_Cube> Does it(vmware) need external CD/dvd disk?
[18:46] <lenochka> hi everyone, why cannot I see pid when I do netstat -nap
[18:46] <kevin__> i have a script that backsup my mysql databases but when it runs via a crontab entry the resulting files are owned by root.  how do I make them be owned by the current user when they are created?
[18:47] <Kikinaak> TJ-: if it helps, the image I used to make my install disc was ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64
[18:47] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: Nope
[18:47] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I have to match the packages to the kernel version you reported using "uname -a"
[18:47] <Curious_Cube> can i download vmware frm software center?
[18:48] <trism> TJ-: Kikinaak is this what you are looking for? http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-3.2.0-31-generic
[18:48] <sayers> its windows based
[18:48] <Gracenotes> Just upgraded to 12.04... have not really had time to previously. How can I get the mouse scroll wheel working in all the places it worked before?
[18:48] <HackinBlack> curious i just checked
[18:48] <Gracenotes> e.g. nautilus tabs, gedit tabs
[18:48] <HackinBlack> i don't believe
[18:48] <sayers> vmware available on my 10.10
[18:48] <samflynn> прощу прощения кто здесь из русскоговорящих?
[18:48] <iDangerMouse> Curious_Cube: well since you're on Ubuntu Virtualbox is better,  but if you're on Windows WMware rocks.
[18:49] <LasOz> Could someone let me know what I've done wrong, with regards to installing Ubuntu on my PC?
[18:49] <sayers> samflynn: скажи
[18:49]  * iDangerMouse is off to bed
[18:49] <HackinBlack> in virtualbox i kept getting a color error or so when using a 64bit version of windows 7
[18:49] <Curious_Cube> please give me the link of download of WMWare?
[18:49] <TJ-> trism: Not exactly. Kikinaak needs to download the .deb that that package depends on, put them on a USB device, and move them to the PC with the bad Wifi (as it has no reliable net) . I'm ensuring Kikinaak has all the packages required, not just the virtual/meta packages
[18:49] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: Download the 32bit not 64bit ISO, dedicate 1 core, and minimum 1gb
[18:50] <trism> TJ-: the debs are at the bottom (amd64/i386)
[18:50] <iDangerMouse> HackinBlack: Then install the ATI Catalyst from the Software Center
[18:50] <Domincii> Hey, when trying to open WoW via Wine, any ideas of a fix for this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254529/
[18:50] <TJ-> trism: I know. But that package is virtual. I'm also making sure the dependencies are listed for Kikinaak
[18:50] <Curious_Cube> wmware for windwos?
[18:51] <trism> TJ-: it is not virtual
[18:51] <Kikinaak> TJ-: if I'm following this right, what I need is an older version of the wifi driver. should the dependancies not already be in place on the system?
[18:52] <TJ-> trism: It is listed as such in launchpad. Weird. It's only 2.6KB in the LP list
[18:52] <trism> TJ-: and its only deps are linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic and dpkg
[18:52] <TJ-> Kikinaak: No, the opposite. You need a more recent version of the driver that has been built for the older kernel ... hence backports
[18:52] <rlw980> I've got a problem with Android
[18:53] <seednode> Well, this is #Ubuntu, but someone might be able to help.
[18:53] <Kikinaak> ah. I believe I follow now
[18:54] <trism> TJ-: maybe you found the meta package on lp?
[18:54] <TJ-> Kikinaak: trism has sorted that out for you. Here's the page to go to. It gives the package details. At the lower-left is a table. click on the "amd64" link and it'll take you to the download. Download the file (a .deb) and save it to a USB stick and transfer it to your bad PC
[18:54] <HackinBlack> When i was on windows and tried installing ubuntu does this seem right.  - Windows has the bootloader on a separate partition named "System" ?
[18:54] <TJ-> trism: I think I did... I got lost in all the cross-references :D
[18:54] <TJ-> trism: thanks for digging me out :p
[18:55] <Kikinaak> ok. thanks to both of you. grabbing that file now. cross fingers
[18:55] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I'm even crossing my spaghetti !
[18:56] <trism> TJ-: yes the linux-backports can be quite confusing (especially since you would think they would be in -backports but they are in -updates)
[18:56] <TJ-> trism: I was cross-referencing directly into http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/
[18:57] <TJ-> trism:  those multiple kernel versions in package names made me dizzy
[19:00] <resure> Is there good ZNC ppa?
[19:00] <seemycam2007> hi
[19:00] <Richhh> how do i search for uploaded files? like rapidshare etc
[19:00] <seemycam2007> asl?
[19:01] <seemycam2007> does any1 know linux on pendrive?
[19:02] <Kikinaak> TJ-: just to confirm this deb file is about 2.7 megs?
[19:02] <jrib> Richhh: use a web browser
[19:02] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Sounds about right. It'll contain a whole load of kernel modules
[19:02] <jrib> !persistent | seemycam2007
[19:02] <Richhh> jrib i want to see up to date info
[19:02] <jrib> Richhh: yes, use a web browser
[19:02] <Richhh> i mean how can i see what was just uploaded
[19:03] <seemycam2007> is there a webcam chat on linux?
[19:03] <Richhh> for example
[19:03] <Gracenotes> why doesn't middle-click work in scroll bars, for that matter?
[19:03] <jrib> Richhh: the answer is still the same; this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:03] <Richhh> k
[19:03] <bobweaver> seemycam2007,  skype and google hangout ? there are others also
[19:03] <bekks> Gracenotes: What do you expect from double-clicking a scrollbar?
[19:03] <seemycam2007> but hw abt on ubuntu on pen drive?
[19:04] <Gracenotes> bekks: well, a scroll track.
[19:05] <Gracenotes> in e.g. Firefox or Chrome
[19:05] <Pici> seemycam2007: You'll need to ask an actual question about it here if you want an answer.
[19:05] <bekks> Gracenotes: Ah ok - never used that so far :)
[19:05] <Kikinaak> TJ-: the software center is not letting me install it. giving me a "you likely do not want to install theis package directly" warning and the install button is greyed out
[19:06] <Cong>  http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o is not found. where else can I get it?
[19:06] <Gracenotes> actually, the laptop's builtin middle click button works. For the mouse that I use, however, the signal doesn't seem to go through
[19:06] <Gracenotes> hum
[19:06] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Is that on the 'bad' PC?
[19:06] <Kikinaak> yup. its the only linux box I have
[19:07] <TJ-> Kikinaak: OK... just making clear so I don't misdirect you. We don't want software center at all.
[19:07] <Kikinaak> it says "please install "package name" via your normal software channels. it would be about as helpful to tell me to grow wings and fly
[19:07] <TJ-> Kikinaak: What you need to do is start a Terminal (dash, type "Terminal" or Ctrl+Alt+T)  and at a command line give an instruction to install the package
[19:08] <Kikinaak> ok. whats the command?
[19:08] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Do you know the directory name where the file is? It'll probably be something like "/media/XYZ/"
[19:08] <TJ-> Kikinaak: What you do is "sudo dpkg -i <path/to/filename.deb>"
[19:09] <Kikinaak> I moved it to my home folder
[19:09] <LasOz> Hello I'm having black screen problems with the dual boot Ubuntu. There's not enough space here to explain all the details, but trying to just re-install Ubuntu doesn't work. What'd be the best cause of action?
[19:10] <TJ-> Kikinaak: OK, so "sudo dpkg -i <filename.deb>" since by default the Terminal starts in your home directory
[19:10] <bekks> TJ-: Is there a way to change that default path?
[19:11] <TJ-> bekks: default path for what? a terminal? Well I guess you'd just alter it in the ~/.bashrc
[19:11] <Kikinaak> yup. also renamed the bloody thing "installme.deb". my fingers aint as acrobatic as they used to me
[19:11] <bekks> TJ-: The default path where a terminal starts
[19:11] <TJ-> bekks: You can pass gnome-terminal "--working-directory=..."
[19:12] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Nice naming convention :p
[19:12] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Once it is installed a reboot should be enough to ensure the newer driver gets loaded
[19:12] <Kikinaak> heh thanks. reboot in progress
[19:14] <TJ-> Gracenotes: I found the bug for your track-scroll issue, finally! bug #508754
[19:17] <Kikinaak> TJ-: no love. same issue, it asks for the key, takes a moment, says its connected, then a moment later says disconnected.
[19:17] <TJ-> Kikinaak: OK, that is likely related to the NetworkManager causing repeated scans. I noticed there's a way to stop that.
[19:19] <kennstdunich> Hello I am using ubuntu 12.10 beta 2 I was in this channel a few days ago a tip how to get the brightness setting rule. it worked well in 12.04. only 12.10 beta 2 is not the
[19:19] <kennstdunich> on my samsung netbook n145 plus
[19:19] <BluesKaj> !wicd | Kikinaak
[19:19] <anti-freeze> kennstdunich: ive had this problem too, its been so long. What graphics card do you have?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | Kikinaak
[19:20] <resure> TJ-: Finally, it works! I have opened 6697 port :-D big thanks
[19:20] <soman> >>> Hi all. Has anyone some troubles with copy/past in Ubuntu 12.04? Sometimes ctrl+c / ctrl+v doesn't work (it could be in a one program, geany for example) so it makes me use context menu that feels annoying.
[19:20] <TJ-> Kikinaak: Could you copy "/var/log/syslog" to the USB device, over to your Windows PC, open it in notepad, then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:21] <TJ-> resure: Nice one! I bet you're relieved now, after all that effort
[19:21] <TJ-> Kikinaak: I have to go do dinner now, I'll likely be about 45 minutes. Send me a private message with the URL of the pastebin and I'll look when I return
[19:22] <TJ-> Kikinaak: (unless someone else can take over)
[19:22] <Kikinaak> TJ-: theres syslog and syslog.1. which you need?
[19:22] <resure> TJ-: yes)
[19:22] <TJ-> Kikinaak: unless "syslog" is almost empty, that's all I need.
[19:23] <Kikinaak> TJ-: ok will post. thanks much for the help. enjoy dinner.
[19:23] <kennstdunich> This PPA will not work under 12.10:
[19:23] <kennstdunich> http://pastie.org/4790702
[19:23] <kennstdunich> help me please
[19:24] <seednode> Does the maintainer say it should work under 12.10?
[19:24] <k0dyl> hello
[19:24] <kennstdunich> seednode,  i have no idea
[19:24] <k0dyl> somebody here?
[19:24] <anti-freeze> kennstdunich: also, its a bad idea to expect much from Beta's, i suggest you wait for the official release
[19:24] <seednode> Well, it might not have been updated to work in 12.10.
[19:25] <seednode> k0dyl, yes, there are people here.
[19:25] <Mir09> hi amm
[19:26] <kennstdunich> okay thanks for the reply
[19:26] <k0dyl> sorry, problem with app
[19:27] <leaftwig> Brasero didn't get done making a checksum after hours ;-; pleas, please relieve my pain :C
[19:27] <DayDrake> Hey, is there a great advantage to using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[19:28] <Kikinaak> resure: you pinch hitting for TJ?
[19:28] <leaftwig> Thank you for fixing stupid too.
[19:28] <resure> Kikinaak: what?
[19:29] <Kikinaak> ah sorry, misread a reply you made to him
[19:29] <WeThePeople> daydrake, if you have more than 4gigs of RAM on your system, 64bit machine can utilize more than 4gigs
[19:29] <WeThePeople> im tired
[19:31] <BluesKaj> !multiarch | DayDrake
[19:31] <BluesKaj> !info multiarch | DayDrake
[19:31] <BluesKaj>  useless bots
[19:31] <Gycklarn> I just added myself to a group, why can't I see this with the 'groups' command?
[19:32] <WeThePeople> bluekaj, lol, where is a set of instructions on how to msg the bot?
[19:32] <ikonia> !msgthebot > WeThePeople
[19:32] <WeThePeople> blueskaj, see above
[19:32] <cyrano_> I have a dell laptop with 12.04 installed and only when I boot in to ubuntu does my fan alternate from very high speed to low speed in 1 second intervals. It can get quite annoying. I have noticed it doesn't do this in windows or osx (hackintosh) does anyone have any insight in to this and possibly a fix?
[19:33] <Mir09> Gycklarn, have you reboot your system after add?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, the factoids should be there for mulitarch support
[19:34] <wino> Looking for a hardware suggestion on a PCI-E jbod controller for Sata-III drives. Does anyone have one that they absolutely love or know of any to absolutely avoid?
[19:35] <WeThePeople> wino, #hardware may have a answer
[19:35] <wino> I'm looking for something to work with ubuntu
[19:35] <BluesKaj> DayDrake , if you have more than 4G RAM then 64bit may be noticeable performance-wise , but I use it anyway just to be up to date
[19:36] <BluesKaj> wino, looking for something ?
[19:37] <osse> I'm trying to access a Samba share. I'm able to type smb://ip.to.server in the "address field" in Nautilus and when I do I see the share I want to open/connect to. BUt when I double click it all I see is "Unable to mount location. Failed to mount Windows share" - How can I get more information on what went wrong?
[19:37] <gordonjcp> wino: hardware RAID?
[19:38] <gordonjcp> wino: hardware RAID is perfectly okay, if you keep backups of all your data *and* have spare controller cards
[19:38] <gordonjcp> wino: unless you can afford at least two spare controller cards, don't bother
[19:38] <Mir09> osse, look here http://oss.sgi.com/LDP/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
[19:38] <gordonjcp> hardware RAID is just about the most effective way of permanently losing data I've ever seen
[19:39] <Como|work> lol gordonjcp
[19:39] <Como|work> it might be accurate, even
[19:39] <osse> Mir09: thanks
[19:39] <Mir09> osse,   :)
[19:40] <gordonjcp> Como|work: well, if your controller dies, you're *stuffed*
[19:40] <kraetzja> mount shows i have a ton of devices mounted on 'none' already, but when i try to mount something to 'none' i get mount: special device none does not exist. anyone have any thoughts?
[19:40] <Gycklarn> Mir09, I have now. I was hoping it would not be necessary.
[19:40] <Como|work> Yep. Especially when its a 6 year old noname card.
[19:40] <gordonjcp> if you can find an identical controller with identical firmware, you've got about a 50/50 chance of it working again
[19:41] <Mir09> Gycklarn, now work?
[19:41] <e-v-o> can someone help me install Ubuntu on Asus eee 1025CE? I want to install it beside windows but I have only 2 options in the installer 1. Replace windows 2. Other. I read some reviews that this hardware is not yet fully supported by Linux as intel is not releasing drivers to the open-source community. Does anyone have any insights?
[19:41] <Como|work> I've had good luck with expensive cards (e.g. the ones HP will sell and warantee) picking up where failed cards left off
[19:41] <gordonjcp> and I'm talking about costs-five-figures cards from a International company that makes Business Machines
[19:41] <Gycklarn> Mir09, Well, I am added to the group, but I'm still unable to do what I was hoping for... but that's another issue
[19:41] <wino> gordonjcp: sorry, mostly looking at jbod, I want to add a bunch of SSDs
[19:41] <wino> so RAID isn't going to work well unless I can do jbod
[19:42] <gordonjcp> wino: softraid
[19:42] <Como|work> then they're doing it wrong. At that cost you might as well buy a san.
[19:42] <wino> err, a raid card isn't going to work well unless I can configure it in jbod
[19:42] <Como|work> Yes- software raid. MDADM works great.
[19:42] <wino> not looking for raid at all
[19:42] <wino> but raid cards often support jbod
[19:42] <gordonjcp> wino: tried just using LVM?
[19:42] <wino> iirc trim doesn't work
[19:42] <wino> when ssds are on a raid controller
[19:42] <wino> but I don't need RAID, I don't need raid functionallity
[19:43] <ikonia> trim won't work on any software raid devices or lvm volumes
[19:43] <wino> I basically need a Sata-III controller
[19:43] <wino> right.
[19:43] <ikonia> however you can buy raid cards that support it on the hardware raid disks
[19:43] <wino> Not looking for raid.
[19:43] <wino> JBOD
[19:43] <wino> same as a regular vanilla controller
[19:43] <ikonia> most raid cards will allow you run in jbod mode
[19:43] <wino> but I don't know of any sata-III jbod/controller cards
[19:43] <ikonia> but the raid cards will be better quality
[19:43] <wino> right
[19:43] <FloodBot1> wino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Mir09> Gycklarn, I don't uderstand well.. you have add you user to a group but it don't work?
[19:43] <wino> I'm looking for suggestions
[19:43] <ikonia> wino: I'd suggest taking it to ##hardware, some smart / up to date guys in there on hardware
[19:43] <e-v-o> Anyone saw my msg? : /
[19:44] <wino> ikonia: I'm looking specifically for ubuntu support though
[19:44] <ikonia> wino: well, the linux chipsets are well documented, so any one who uses those will be quite safe
[19:44] <Gycklarn> Mir09, heh, sorry if I confuse you. I am indeed added to the group. I'm rabbling.
[19:44] <wino> ikonia: I disagree.
[19:45] <ikonia> wino: disagree with what ?
[19:45] <Mir09> Gycklarn, ok :)
[19:45] <wino> linux chipsets being well documented. That's kind of the reverse way to look, and my experience with Free/OpenBSD is the exact opposite. Just because it works on one doesn't mean it works on the other
[19:45] <wino> I am looking for a card to run in an ubuntu box
[19:46] <osse> Mir09: didn't help me much though :( I'm running samba on my router using openwrt.
[19:46] <ikonia> wino: then you're taking the wrong approach, ubuntu is linux - the linux kernel's disk controller chipsets, especially on raid cards is well documented
[19:46] <wino> figured ##ubuntu might have experience with a raid/controller card that works with ubuntu
[19:46] <Domincii> When I try to run WoW I get this error message before it loads, it loads up eventually but then it is very choppy and freezes a lot, could someone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1254654/ I've been posting this for days hoping someone would be online who could help, but evidently to no avail, I've also tried posting to #winehq with the same result.
[19:46] <ikonia> wino: getting one of the supported chipsets is the simple way of resolving it
[19:46] <ThinkT510> !raid | wino
[19:46] <ikonia> wino: you won't find one with specific ubuntu support.
[19:47] <wino> that's why I was asking if anyone had any experience with them
[19:47] <SolarisBoy> jbods generally just work
[19:47] <ikonia> wino: and as different ubuntu version have different linux kernels (and therefore potentially changing hardware support) you need to treat each one as a different distro the same as fedora, or debian etc
[19:47] <wino> asking for knowledgeable suggestions
[19:47] <sayers> I've got integrated Graphics card on my motherboard and my question is how to see what brand and model is, then where to find drivers becuz I am 100% in that, that the particular GPU isn't ATI or NVIDIA
[19:47] <comando> hello peoples
[19:47] <ThinkT510> sayers: lspci
[19:47] <ikonia> wino: yes, and I've given you one, the raid controllers are well documented in their chipset support, anyone of the cards that uses those chipsets should be fine, however check it against the specific kernel you are going to use
[19:47] <comando> I need help please
[19:48] <ziggyzero> Hi can somebody give me some assistance.I have run apt-get install libxml2 and I was expecting /usr/lib/libmxl2.so to be created
[19:48] <comando> somebody can read me
[19:48] <sayers> ThinkT510 i'll give a try
[19:48] <wino> ikonia: no, you basically told me to go away
[19:48] <ziggyzero> am I missing something?
[19:48] <ikonia> wino: no I didn't
[19:48] <ThinkT510> comando: then you need to explain the issue
[19:48] <ziggyzero> Running Apache 2.2 on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:48] <wino> I'm looking for someone with experience with a sata-III controller card that works with ubuntu
[19:48] <wino> you keep telling me to go away
[19:48] <ikonia> wino: if you ask ##hardware for suggestions on cards with the well documented linux chipset, you'll get good results
[19:48] <Mir09>  osse, http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/cifs.server
[19:48] <ziggyzero> I've done a find / -name 'xmllib2.so' but it finds nothing by that name
[19:48] <ikonia> wino: I'm not telling you to go away
[19:48] <wino> ikonia: if you can't help, that's fine, but please stop highlighting me
[19:48] <Laia> I have an inspiron with ubuntu 12.04 and experience random freezes. dmesg, messages and xorg.0.log do not contain any errors, kerneloops does not seem to have any information either. Any hint on how to tackle this?
[19:48] <comando> please I need help
[19:49] <ziggyzero> but apt-get install libxml2 says that it is already installed
[19:49] <wino> comando: the answer is in ##hardware, probably
[19:49] <Pici> comando: you haven't asked a question yet.
[19:49] <Pici> wino: don't do that.
[19:49] <ikonia> wino: I'm advising you that the raid controllers have well documented supported chipsets, eg: the LSI and the 3wares, if you look in ##hardware and ask for advice on supported chipsers, such as the LSI/3ware model cards, you'll get good response
[19:49] <comando> wino what do you say
[19:49] <comando> Picci I need help in OSSIM system
[19:49] <wino> ikonia: that is the most detailed response that you've given so far
[19:49] <sayers> it's between Intel Corporation 82801 or Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER , not sure which one is the GPU and AGP bridge :D
[19:50] <ikonia> wino: it's the same response I've given you 3 times
[19:50] <wino> thanks, where was that info 10 minutes ago?
[19:50] <ikonia> I told you 3 times
[19:50] <wino> you did not mention any specific brands
[19:50] <wino> "go to ##hardware"
[19:50] <ikonia> wino: because they may not be supported now
[19:50] <wino> great, thanks.
[19:50] <ikonia> but they are well documented
[19:50] <wino> thanks again for whatever
[19:50] <Pici> comando: what is OSSIM?
[19:50] <ikonia> so if you check the documentation as I've suggested, and then ask on those chipsets you'll get a good response in ##hardware
[19:50] <comando> is a system based in debian
[19:50] <comando> Picci
[19:51] <comando> Picci is a system based in debian
[19:51] <wino> ikonia: I am asking for anyone with any personal experience
[19:51] <wino> not sure how that line keeps getting lost
[19:51] <Kikinaak> wino: http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=1738    this is an older thread but it may give you some leads
[19:51] <ikonia> wino: yes, but the personal experience will vary depending on distro and disk type
[19:51] <wino> Kikinaak: ty
[19:51] <tomasm-> hi, i just got the live version of ubuntu onto a USB stick, and i was wondering if it's possible to modify that, install other apps, etc? I'm not sure how the root filesystem is handled
[19:51] <osse> Mir09: oh I've read that page so many times. I've been struggling with this for days now.
[19:51] <mschr> wino, please; #ubuntu supports Ubuntu specific questions, yours is kernel related only
[19:51] <Pici> comando: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  Please use OSSIM's support or try to ask in #debian, although they'll likely tell you the same thing.
[19:51] <wino> hardware suggestions are not off topic in ##ubuntu as far as I understand
[19:52] <osse> Mir09: I'm able to mount it using smbmount as root. But that just chowns the mount point and makes it unbrowsable for everyone else (ie. me)
[19:52] <wino> mschr: is that incorrect?
[19:52] <comando> Picci Thank my friend
[19:52] <mschr> wino i dont know but youre spamming my client..
[19:52] <Pici> wino: ikonia knows what hes talking about, and so do the folks in ##hardware.  We're just telling you where you are likely to get answers fastest.
[19:53] <ikonia> or the best way to get a great answer, I'm not going to research cards, but if you ask about the specific supported chipsets, you'll get a good follow on response in ##hardware
[19:53] <WeThePeople> ikonia, i have ubuntu working :)
[19:53] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ??? why are you telling me this ?
[19:53] <ThinkT510> !yay | WeThePeople
[19:53] <xbb> is anybody running Serviio? When I start it up it loads mp3 files, but not mp4 and folders.
[19:57] <mschr> xbb i think your box needs to have capeability to show mp4 (proper codecs) before serviio will reckognize the mimetype of those files
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> !mp4
[19:59] <chris_> hello
[19:59] <Domincii> sup brah
[20:00] <chris_> hi  zastern
[20:00] <zastern> chris_: Hi?
[20:01] <WeThePeople> funny question, if a iso is 3 gigs and i onlt have 1 gig of ram is it possible to run it on my computer
[20:01] <ikonia> yes, it will swap
[20:02] <Kikinaak> I would burn it if possible for better performance
[20:03] <mschr> since distupgrade (involving precise + unity) the animation of fading / shrinking windows are even laggy
[20:03] <chris_>  zastern, i have ubuntu but the mouse is stacking
[20:03] <mschr> System Settings > Details > Graphics > Driver = VESA: M82, however
[20:03] <mschr> glxinfo: OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, direct rendering: Yes
[20:03] <zastern> chris_: why are you asking me specifically
[20:03] <ziggyzero> Hi does anybody know anything about libxml2?
[20:03] <ziggyzero>  I have run apt-get install libxml2 but it has not given me the file I need.
[20:03] <mschr> any ideas ?
[20:03] <ziggyzero> I was hoping to have /usr/lib/libxml2.so
[20:03] <ikonia> ziggyzero: how do you know that is the right package
[20:04] <ikonia> !find /usr/lib/libxml2.so
[20:04] <ikonia> oops
[20:04] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Hi that website that you pointed me to said so
[20:04] <ikonia> which website ?
[20:04] <ikonia> (sorry I don't remember)
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> ziggyzero: libxml2-dev
[20:04] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Also when I start Apache it complains
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> its maybe loading something that expects that to be in a library path
[20:05] <Mir09> osse, is very strange.. when you mount samba it become unbrowsable.. yur configuration is correct?
[20:05] <ikonia> ziggyzero: what website, I didn't point you at a website
[20:05] <ziggyzero> SolarisBox: I have installed that too. I needed the headers to build mod_proxy_html
[20:05] <ikonia> ziggyzero: what are you trying to do ?
[20:05] <mschr> ziggyzero mine is @ /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxml2.so
[20:05] <osse> Mir09: I don't know if it's correct. I've checked everything a million times.
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> thats where it seems to go in libxml2-dev as well
[20:06] <ikonia> ziggyzero: I've just read the scroll back in #httpd and it seems you totally ignored everything I told you and just asked how to build mod_proxy 3.1
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> is the program using the library path or is it statically looking in a folder?
[20:06] <ziggyzero> ikonia: If you remember I am wanting to proxy traffic through apache. I needed to build v3.1 manually as the ubuntu repo only has v3.0.11
[20:06] <osse> Mir09: I also tried 'sudo smbmount smb://ip/share -o uid=osse,gid=osse,...' but still the mount point becomes owned by root
[20:06] <xbb> mschr, ha interesting. Thanks.
[20:06] <ikonia> ziggyzero: no - you didn't need to build it
[20:06] <ikonia> ziggyzero: that's why I said you didn't do anything I told you
[20:06] <ikonia> ziggyzero: I told you to ask in #httpd how to get what you wanted out the current module
[20:07] <ikonia> ziggyzero: instead you just joined and blindly asked how to build the module
[20:07] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Now built and added but now complaining that the xmlfile is missing
[20:07] <ikonia> ziggyzero: then it's your problem - you built it
[20:07] <ikonia> ziggyzero: this is why I told you not to build it
[20:07] <ziggyzero> ikonia: wait a moment. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
[20:08] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Only the HTTP response headers specifically mentioned above will be rewritten. Apache will not rewrite other response headers, nor will it rewrite URL references inside HTML pages. This means that if the proxied content contains absolute URL references, they will by-pass the proxy. A third-party module that will look inside the HTML and rewrite URL references is Nick Kew's mod_proxy_html.
[20:08] <ikonia> sorry- I disagree
[20:08] <ziggyzero> ikonia: The apache website says that it is only available via the 3rd party module, hence why I needed to do it
[20:08] <ikonia> ziggyzero: you'r obssesed with a function in mod_proxy 3.1 rather than trying to get the functionality you want
[20:09] <cjr_> list
[20:09] <ikonia> ziggyzero: well, you've built the module, so I suggest you start trouble shooting it
[20:10] <mschr> ziggyzero 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH'
[20:10] <ziggyzero> ikonia: I'm not that's the ProxyPassReverse function and it doesn't rewrite url refs inside html. Hence the need for the 3rd part mod
[20:10] <ikonia> ziggyzero: contact the person who wrote that 3rd party module then
[20:10] <ikonia> he will help you
[20:10] <quaisi> hi does kodak hate linux re printers?
[20:11] <ziggyzero> mschr: Are you reading this? Is ikonia correct? Have I completely mis-understood why I needed mod_proxy_html
[20:11] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all
[20:11] <_UsUrPeR_> trying to figure out how to get apt to use a proxy in 12.04
[20:12] <mschr> no idea, havent read what you need libxml for tbh
[20:12] <_UsUrPeR_> I am able to auto-detect proxy with firefox
[20:12] <_UsUrPeR_> but not sure how to do anything with apt-get
[20:12] <quaisi> i installed 12.04 for a friend and they are unable to get the printer to work - i also cannot find any linux drivers - the model is esp 1.2
[20:12] <oscar_> hi, i have problems trying to log in to my system, i am using ubuntu 11.04, i only see this massage: mountall: fail order  plymouth. mountall: disconected from plymouth from disk /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or not present. -Help please
[20:12] <Mir09> osse, have you add your user to sambashare into /etc/group ?
[20:13] <osse> Mir09: no i haven't. i'll try that. thanks
[20:14] <guntbert> _UsUrPeR_: you need a line in /etc/apt/apt.conf: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[20:14] <Mir09> osse, you shoult find something like this "sambashare:x:124:" after : add your user and save
[20:14] <mschr> _UsUrPeR_ from command line? try set it explicitely, like: 'http_proxy="http://dom.tld" apt-get install ...'
[20:15] <_Marcus> I want to uninstall my current Ubuntu installation while keeping GRUB. How do I do this?
[20:15] <_UsUrPeR_> guntbert: even though there is no apt.conf in /etc/apt?
[20:15] <Gracenotes> TJ-: hm
[20:15] <guntbert> _please read the page - you can craete that file
[20:16] <ichilton> How do you change the system locale in Ubuntu? - it's installing postgresql with en_US instead of utf8...
[20:16] <mschr> _UsUrPeR_  guntbert : create  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02proxy
[20:16] <ziggyzero> Thanks mschr, SolarisBoy and ikonia. Found it at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so as mschr said
[20:17] <theadmin> ichilton: What do you mean, "en_US instead of UTF-8"? The locales are "language-country.coding", so "en_US.UTF-8" is valid...
[20:17] <francesco_> hi
[20:17] <TJ-> Gracenotes: Was that relevant? I thought afterwards it might not be entirely what you meant, but I've also been wondering where the scroll-wheel-press smooth scroller tracker icon/operation has got to!
[20:17] <mschr> _UsUrPeR_ maybe with another priority
[20:17] <SolarisBoy> cool..
[20:17] <_UsUrPeR_> mschr: got it
[20:17] <_UsUrPeR_> thanks
[20:18] <_UsUrPeR_> mschr: a further question: I can't resolve any external addresses from terminal even though apt-get is now operational. Where is that setting?
[20:19] <mschr> ziggyzero then,  LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/" RUN_CMD - but you have probably failed in linking correctly during compile build
[20:19] <lsj8924> that's good
[20:19] <mschr> _UsUrPeR_ same, http_proxy, use 'export http_proxy="whatever-addr"' in your ~/.bashrc
[20:20] <ziggyzero> mschr: sorry you have lost me. Ikonia will tell you that's easy to do.
[20:20] <Gracenotes> TJ-: I'm not sure if this is the same as instantaneous click-to-relocate?
[20:20] <Gracenotes> I think this might be an issue with my USB mouse rather than mice in general
[20:21] <lsj8924> o
[20:22] <ikonia> ziggyzero: no, I won't tell you that's easy to do, and the smart mouth won't inspire people to help., However it does suggest you need a basic understanding of what you are doing
[20:23] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Sorry crossed wire I think. I meant ikonia will tell you that it's easy to 'lose me'. I wasn't saying anything about you. Apologies if it came across wrong.
[20:23] <lsj8924> how to use this ubuntu server?
[20:24] <lsj8924> I come here first time
[20:24] <lsj8924> who can tell how to use this client
[20:24] <identity> Where would one put a script in order to make sure it runs when the window manager is run? I have a script that sets up my dual head setup using xrandr
[20:25] <guntbert> !manual | lsj8924
[20:25] <guntbert> !cli | lsj8924
[20:27] <blob4000> hey all. i have 12.04 installed on my laptop. how do i upgrade to 12.04.1 ?
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> blob4000  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:27] <ziggyzero> ikonia: Apologies if you mis understood me. I come here for help and I wouldn't intentionally insult anybody.
[20:28] <lsj8924> that 's cool!!!
[20:28] <guntbert> blob4000: you have it if you update your system
[20:28] <blob4000> thanks guntbert and MonkeyDust, so i may already be running 12.04.1 even if the splash screen when i first boot up still says 12.04 ?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> blob4000  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[20:30] <sayers> My booting ubuntu logo disappear and I am seeing just a black screen. (I switched from pci-e gpu to my integrated on my motheboard one) and seeing no booting ubuntu logo on both graphics card. How to restore the booting logo ?
[20:34] <blob4000> thanks MonkeyDust, lsb_release -sd shows "12.04.1 LTS"
[20:34] <blob4000> cheers
[20:34] <hackinblack> can someone help with me installing ubuntu and windows 7 dual boot i am currently loading up ubuntu from disc
[20:35] <ikonia> hackinblack: install windows, then install ubuntu, job done
[20:35] <tozen> hackingblack: what kind of help do u need?
[20:35] <hackinblack> ikonia it is not that easy i have windows 7 i just installed about 5 minutes ago now i am loading up ubuntu
[20:35] <ikonia> hackinblack: leave space (unallocated space) on your hard disk for ubuntu to install to after windows installed
[20:35] <ikonia> hackinblack: it really is that easy
[20:35] <hackinblack> but the partition and stuff and not getting grub
[20:35] <hackinblack> is the problem
[20:36] <ikonia> hackinblack: how big is the hard disk
[20:36] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: WAIT
[20:36] <hackinblack> ok ikonia
[20:36] <hackinblack> i did that
[20:36] <hackinblack> but in ubuntu it never shows up
[20:36] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: Don't leave unallocated space on your hard drive unless you're willing to do a MANUAL partitioning
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> hackinblack, Do you as of now have a unallocated space for ubuntu?
[20:36] <hackinblack>  Yes
[20:36] <hackinblack> i have unallcated space
[20:36] <hackinblack> from windows installation only half hdd
[20:37] <ikonia> hackinblack: how big is the hard disk ?
[20:37] <hackinblack> the problem i ran into before is that when i tried the side by side, it installs but then has a error of grub cant install bootloader here and so it gives me option to install elsewhere and i do that but when i restart it just loads right into windows
[20:38] <ikonia> hackinblack: how big is the hard disk ?
[20:38] <hackinblack> the hdd total 600GB
[20:38] <haffleflasm> Hi! Can someone tell me how to print black and white / greyscale under Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:38] <ikonia> hackinblack: how many hard disks do you have in your machine ?
[20:38] <hackinblack> I have only one
[20:38] <hackinblack> i have external 130GB hdd though
[20:38] <ikonia> hackinblack: ok, so it wants to go on the "master boot record" of that machine
[20:38] <ikonia> hackinblack: unplug the external hard disk
[20:39] <hackinblack> I did that
[20:39] <hackinblack> no external is connected
[20:39] <ikonia> ok - so you need to partion your disk with the manual partition option in the ubuntu installer
[20:39] <ikonia> hackinblack: create an ubuntu and swap partition
[20:39] <hackinblack> I am at the screen where it says do i want to install ubuntu side by side or replace windows 7 oir something else
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> hackinblack, sounds like remnants of a uefi install at one time may be evident or other variables.
[20:39] <ikonia> hackinblack: select *manual* at that point
[20:39] <identity> Could anyone in here possibly shed some light on why my .xsession file isn't being run? The one in my home directory.
[20:39] <identity> I'm trying to use it to set up dual-head support immediately at log-in, but nothing is happening
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> remnants*
[20:39] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: it's nothing to do with efi
[20:39] <hackinblack> ok ikonuia
[20:40] <ikonia> hackinblack: this isn't a mac is it ?
[20:40] <hackinblack> It shows me the partitioning menu
[20:40] <hackinblack> NO no shitty mac
[20:40] <ikonia> hackinblack: that language will stop now please
[20:40] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[20:40] <hackinblack> lol ok.
[20:40] <hackinblack> Well what do i do now
[20:40] <mac_12> hello world
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> ikonia, At this point no but remnants from earlier installs not cleared from the HD can cause this problem, just some suggestions on their failure in the past.
[20:41] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: it's random suggestions, there is nothing to suggest efi
[20:41] <ikonia> hackinblack: create a partition for ubuntu
[20:41] <hackinblack> how
[20:41] <hackinblack> though
[20:41] <hackinblack> I have dev/sda selected
[20:41] <ikonia> hackinblack: in the partition tool
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> ikonia, not really, but carry on. ;)
[20:41] <hackinblack> but the add button is not selectable
[20:42] <Mir09> haffleflasm, which printer you have?
[20:42] <ikonia> hackinblack: do you know how to take a screen shot ?
[20:43] <hackinblack> yes hold on ill get a screenshot
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> My only suggestion would be to run the bootscript it will show this or other possible problems, there straight up installs have failed.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> their*
[20:48] <haffleflasm> Mir09 I have a cannon pixma mg6150
[20:48] <sir_tyrion> How do I restart USB controller?
[20:50] <hackinblack> Sorry for the wait pictures are like 4 mb each
[20:51] <hackinblack> ikonia here is a screen shot of what im looking at http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh532/NGUH1/DSCF0161_zps3f2160c6.jpg
[20:52] <hackinblack> what do i do?
[20:52] <hackinblack> ikonia you there?
[20:52] <ikonia> hackinblack: what menu option did you choose, manual partition ? installed next to windows ?
[20:53] <hackinblack> No i choosed something else
[20:53] <ikonia> which did you chose, what is the option called
[20:53] <hackinblack> the option is literally called something else
[20:53] <hackinblack> do you want a screen shot of that also
[20:54] <ikonia> no
[20:54] <ikonia> hackinblack: what happens if you click "install now"
[20:54] <hackinblack> there is no install now i  will show you screen shot
[20:54] <ikonia> bottom right of the screen
[20:54] <ikonia> on the screen shot
[20:55] <simpleusrnme> hello. Can someone me tell me the state of sis mirage drivers in ubuntu?
[20:55] <hackinblack> ikonia here is a screen shot of all my options http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh532/NGUH1/DSCF0164_zpsf7226b8a.jpg
[20:56] <ikonia> hackinblack: yes and on the other screen shot it says "install now"
[20:56] <ikonia> simpleusrnme: poor - in linux in general, poor
[20:57] <simpleusrnme> ikonia: i see. i tried to run ubuntu 10.04.4 to try it out but it is looking very bad.
[20:57] <hackinblack> so i select the free space option and install?
[20:57] <ikonia> hackinblack: try it, never seen that menu before
[20:57] <hackinblack> Me nether
[20:57] <ikonia> I have to drop offline for 15 minutes
[20:58] <hackinblack> So do i put the new partition as primary or logical? if im dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu
[20:58] <hackinblack> ?
[20:59] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Is it the only Ubuntu partition?
[20:59] <hackinblack> yea the partition i would use for ubuntu
[20:59] <shah`> permanent remove window$ and feel ubuntu
[20:59] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Primary then probably. How many primary partitions do you have on your system now?
[21:00] <hackinblack> I  would have 3 one windows, another for windows system? and then ubuntu
[21:00] <nkls> shah`, hahahhah XD
[21:00] <hackinblack> What would be the mount point  / ?  or /boot?
[21:00] <lsj8924> 没有中文吗
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> !cs | lsj8924
[21:01] <bobo37773> hackinblack: It depends on how you want to set up your system. You can only have 4 primary partitions
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> oops
[21:01] <ahmedipa> good afternoon everybody
[21:01] <ahmedipa> nice to see you again
[21:01] <nkls> ahmedipa, hi :)
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> !cn > lsj8924
[21:01] <hackinblack> IDK man i just want dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu windows for steam and ubuntu for everything else
[21:01] <ahmedipa> welcome to ubuntu channel
[21:01] <bobo37773> hackinblack: If you set up the only mountpoint as / then your whole system should be on one partition
[21:01] <ahmedipa> nkls: hi
[21:02] <lsj8924> ok
[21:02] <nkls> hackinblack, can you show up the first pic you put here?
[21:02] <ahmedipa> I am so happy to install this channel
[21:02] <hackinblack> So i wouldnt want that? what one do i do? http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh532/NGUH1/DSCF0161_zps3f2160c6.jpg
[21:02] <hackinblack> is the first pic
[21:02] <nkls> ahmedipa, i am so happy with linux <3
[21:02] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Why do you need to manually partition your machine if you don't have any special partitioning needs?
[21:03] <lsj8924>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[21:03] <ahmedipa> nkls: me to brother
[21:03] <hackinblack> I dont know, this other guy said to do manual
[21:03] <hackinblack> so should i do side by side?
[21:03] <bobo37773> hackinblack: For what reason?
[21:03] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Why did `some guy` tell you to manually partition drive
[21:03] <hackinblack> Im not sure you would have to ask him all i want is dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu
[21:04] <ahmedipa> nkls: I will try to remote control windows 7 inside ubuntu 12.04
[21:04] <bobo37773> hackinblack: click on where it says free space and click install. Should be that simple
[21:04] <ahmedipa> nkls: I hope that I can do it
[21:04] <lsj8924>  /join  #ubuntu-cn
[21:04] <bobo37773> hackinblack: You do not have any manual partitioning needs
[21:04] <bobo37773> hackinblack: At least not that I can tell
[21:05] <sssilver> Hello everyone. I've downloaded 64-bit desktop ubuntu from Ubuntu.com, but the checksum doesn't match that of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A12.04_LTS -- could the latter be outdated?
[21:05] <hackinblack> what do i select for device bootloader installation though?
[21:05] <hackinblack> And i cant just click install it says  " No root file system is defined
[21:05] <hackinblack> so clearly it is not that easy
[21:05] <lsj8924> how to read your information with chinese？
[21:05] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Depends on what your hard drive is. If it is a newerish computer is should be /dev/sda
[21:05] <aguadito> is there a erason why ubuntu doesn't respect my power settings of dim/suspending?
[21:05] <resure> Strange: server doesn't respond to ssh and http, but responds to ping and I use irc via it (znc). Few minutes ago everything was OK.
[21:06] <hackinblack> Ok that is what it is on now but it also has  dev/sda1 windows 7 (loader)   what is this?
[21:06] <aguadito> i disabled dim/suspend, disabled screensaver, and yet after 10 minutes the screen goes black and suspends
[21:06] <aguadito> wtf?
[21:06] <frosty__> hackinblack: it found windows 7 on another partition, thats all
[21:07] <hackinblack> so i do not select that as mount point?
[21:07] <lsj8924> ！cn
[21:07] <hackinblack> just dev/sda? and then on the free space partition tool select / for mount point? Do you want screen shot?
[21:07] <Domincii> hey, how do I ensure my graphics drivers are installed correctly?
[21:07] <bobo37773> hackinblack: You shouldn't have to do any of that. Click the back button until you get to auto partitioning and select the freespace and install
[21:07] <frosty__> hackinblack: are you still choosing partitions manually?
[21:08] <Domincii> I installed them via the 'additional drivers' tab
[21:08] <bobo37773> frosty__: Are you the one who told hackinblack to partition manually?
[21:08] <hackinblack> yes\
[21:08] <hackinblack> Bob there is not AUTO Partitioning
[21:08] <frosty__> bobo37773: no
[21:08] <bobo37773> frosty__: Oh okay
[21:09] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Go back to the screen of the picture you linked to earlier
[21:09] <bobo37773> hackinblack: click on the freespace and click the install button on the bottom right
[21:09] <hackinblack> to where it says alongside windows 7? screen?
[21:09] <hackinblack> BOB i did that, it says there is no mount point
[21:09] <bobo37773> hackinblack: ?? show me
[21:10] <lsj8924> 没有中文吗
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> !cn | lsj8924
[21:10] <santiago_> hello world
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> lsj8924, This is an english channel I hope that ubottu message is helpful. ;)
[21:11] <geek_> Hi, my Ubuntu 12.04 is acting strange, first thing was Gwibber giving an error along the lines of SECURITY WARNING: The above URL is not valid for a cash card..." and now Firefox refuses to load certain pages, and Xchat doesn't connect to a server I know is functional.
[21:12] <geek_> is there something I could try short of reinstalling?
[21:12] <lsj8924>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[21:12] <geek_> lsj8924, remove the space and you are good.
[21:12] <dr_willis> geek_:  make a new user  - see if they have the same issues
[21:12] <Cyberspaceloa> bobo37773: hackinblack needs to manually partition because he left unallocated space w/ his window install
[21:12] <sssilver> After I create a bootable USB and select any of the 3 options at the boot menu ("Install Ubuntu", "Try ubuntu", "check disk for errors"), I get a blank black screen with nothing happening and no r/w activity on my USB flash. What gives??
[21:13] <geek_> dr_jesus, will do.
[21:13] <Cyberspaceloa> bobo37773: the side by side feature will only detect allocated space
[21:13] <hackinblack> Bob here is a pic http://s1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh532/NGUH1/?action=view&current=DSCF0170_zps24c31f70.jpg
[21:13] <bobo37773> Cyberspaceloa: Ah I see. Take over I got to go
[21:13] <Xabster> if a task-list (at the bottom of the screen to show my open programs) is one of my primary needs for my ubuntu install, what should i get instead of default unity desktop?
[21:13] <geek_> hopefully the system is hosed to the extent that it doesn't allow me to create a user.
[21:13] <Xabster> i'm very new
[21:13] <hackinblack> thats what shows if i select free space and click install
[21:14] <ThinkT510> Xabster: xfce is a good choice
[21:14] <chrisbuchholz> Hey guys
[21:14] <geek_> since when is Online Accounts in 12.04?
[21:14] <LinuxSpatry> guys
[21:14] <LinuxSpatry> hello
[21:14] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: that's because there's nothing defined for ubuntu to install to in "free space"
[21:14] <bobo37773> hackinblack: Sorry. Got to do some work. Be back in a bit. Have Cyberspaceloa help you okay
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, there are other desktops and docks.
[21:14] <geek_> LinuxSpatry, didn't expect to see you here.
[21:14] <LinuxSpatry> i am promoting ubuntu in youtube
[21:14] <hackinblack> Ok so cyber what do i do
[21:14] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: "free space" means nothing can install there
[21:14] <Xabster> wilee-nilee, yeah i know that but which should i take?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> Xabster  there's also faalback/classic mode
[21:15] <hackinblack> when i double click on free space shows partition add
[21:15] <hackinblack> menu
[21:15] <mkeys> I have a ntfs formatted usb hard disk, /dev/sdc1 at the moment, and want to automount it at boot. It seems I must do a manual replug of the device for it to "see" the disk, it automounts it as /media/Seagate when I do. I snagged the uuid of the disk and put it in /etc/fstab, but like I said it doesn't see it without a manual replug and I'm forced to "press S to skip" at grub boot. Any suggestions?
[21:15] <chrisbuchholz> i have two foldes which are almost equal (think two copies of wordpress). How can i, from the command line, walk through each file in dir a and diff it with the corresponding file in dir b?
[21:15] <LinuxSpatry> u people should see my ubuntu bootcamp
[21:15] <dr_willis> Freespace is not the same as 'unallocated' space
[21:15] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: keep in mind that I am not familiar with the newer graphical install tools okay
[21:15] <geek_> LinuxSpatry, though you might want to try another channel, you'll get told to take that elsewhere as this is purely support.
[21:15] <hackinblack> but i dont know what mount point i do
[21:15] <Xabster> MonkeyDust: i got "ubuntu" and "ubuntu 2d" to choose from
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, That would be your decision really, check through a few and decide what you like>
[21:15] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: I may bungle this a bit. However, the tools I've used in the past don't commit changes right away
[21:15] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  this is for an install? or what exactly?
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Xabster  you can install fallback/classic, it's very similar to gnome2
[21:15] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: if you're still willing to proceed with me, I'll do my best
[21:16] <hackinblack> for dual boot
[21:16] <hackinblack> install of ubuntu part
[21:16] <LinuxSpatry> congrats to canonical i love unity
[21:16] <LinuxSpatry> i am promoting ubuntu
[21:16] <LinuxSpatry> in my videos
[21:16] <hackinblack> cyber what should i put as the mount point
[21:16] <hackinblack> ?
[21:16] <hackinblack> for the freespace
[21:16] <LinuxSpatry> people are getting windows free ffinally
[21:16] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you have some options when it comes to partitioning
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> LinuxSpatry, This is support for questions not your decelerations
[21:16] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  you need 2 partions, one for / and one for swap
[21:17] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you can install / as the mount point and that's it
[21:17] <hackinblack> Do i have to have swap?
[21:17] <TJ-> hackinblack: I can't make out the detail too well in that photo you posted, but I *think* the issue is you have freespace between partitions 1 and 2... so gparted has no way to allocate that space. The error it reports seems to be a misnomer because you've confused it
[21:17] <LinuxSpatry> no ic ame here just to congratulate
[21:17] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: and one for swap as dr_willis says
[21:17] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you need a swap
[21:17] <Guest85580> Is there a channel where one can ask questions about smartphones?
[21:17] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  i suggest making swap partiion. yes. equal to ram  in most cases
[21:17] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: it should be at least the size of your ram
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest85580, Ubuntu related yes
[21:17] <Cyberspaceloa> dr_willis: is there a wiki on partitioning schemes?
[21:17] <sssilver> can anyone assist me please?
[21:18]  * sssilver looks around
[21:18] <hackinblack> ok so create 2 partitions from that free space?
[21:18] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  never needed one.. ;)
[21:18] <hackinblack> in the format of ext4
[21:18] <c_smith_> the 12.10 Online accounts isn't supposed to be in 12.04, is it?
[21:18] <Cyberspaceloa> hacknblack: yes that should be fine
[21:18] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you can also make a logical partition for /home
[21:18] <Guest85580> wilee-nilee, no. Not Ubuntu related. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Ace Smartphone and want to know how I can add mp3 to it from Ubuntu so I can use it as an mp3 player.
[21:18] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: this has the benefit of separating a lot of your data from system upgrades
[21:19] <hackinblack> So again this is what im doing i only have 200GB to put in ubuntu / swap
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest85580, If this is an android try #android
[21:19] <hackinblack> I am doing 170GB for / mount point ext4 a
[21:19] <Guest85580> wilee-nilee, yes it is thx
[21:19] <hackinblack> and creating another for say 10GB?
[21:19] <hackinblack> for swap
[21:19] <hackinblack> ?
[21:19] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  10gb for swap is huge..
[21:19] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: how much ram do you have?
[21:19] <hackinblack> IDC
[21:19] <hackinblack> i have 8GB
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, The works as a stetement of your problem for help. ;)
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> statement*]
[21:20] <dr_willis> most likely you wont need any swap. but 8gb would be plenty.
[21:20] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: After I create a bootable USB and select any of the 3 options at the boot menu ("Install Ubuntu", "Try ubuntu", "check disk for errors"), I get a blank black screen with nothing happening and no r/w activity on my USB flash. What gives??
[21:20] <dr_willis> swap = ram if you want to hibernate/suspend the system
[21:21] <dr_willis> sssilver:  tried the 'nomodeset' option yet?
[21:21] <hackinblack> I dont care for hibernate / suspend
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > sssilver
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, May be a bad load to the usb, check the md5sum of the ISO as well, the memory check should work.
[21:22] <hackinblack> ok so now i have 3 partitions
[21:22] <hackinblack> 2 for windows/ windows system partition? idk what that is. and then about 200GB ext4 primary partition for ubuntu on the / mount  point does this seem right?
[21:23] <mahmuodm18> hi ubuntu
[21:23] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: should be good, but I recommend a swap
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> hackinblack  type sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit and paste the url here
[21:23] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: if others in here say you don't need it, then it's up to you
[21:23] <Cyberspaceloa> MonkeyDust: he's partitioning to install
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> should of been a extended first to contain the logical ext4 and the swap
[21:24] <mahmuodm18> libya
[21:24] <hackinblack> what is the purpose of swap? just for hibernate and suspend?
[21:24] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: nomodeset didn't help
[21:24] <hackinblack> i have 9GB left of free space
[21:24] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: check disk doesn't work for the same reason
[21:24] <dr_willis> !swap > hackinblack
[21:24] <sssilver> and the MD5sum of what I've downloaded doesn't match the one written here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A12.04_LTS
[21:24] <resuremade> All my server's ports suddenly closed after restart. I haven't changed iptables config. What can it be? It only respond to ping.
[21:24] <sssilver> although my filename is different too..
[21:24] <mahmuodm18> how
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, What did you load the usb with? Have you run a md5sum on the ISO?
[21:24] <aguadito> ubuntu won't stop dimming/suspending wtf
[21:24] <aguadito> i've tried to change the settings to 1 hour, to never, everything
[21:25] <aguadito> and after 10 min it goes dim/suspends
[21:25] <aguadito> wtf is wrong with this
[21:25] <hackinblack> alright ubottu so i create new partition for swap. should this be primary or logical and what mount point?
[21:25] <mahmuodm18> hp printer
[21:25] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  any type. filesystemis swap. and it does not have a mountpoint
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> aguadito, acronyms are not accepted on this channel, and will cause people to not answer you as well
[21:25] <timtimtim> Hey, I'm trying to install syslinux from an arch partition I've chrooted into, however, when I run the command syslinux-install_update -iam, I get the error that It cannot find /proc/self/mountinfo \n Are you running a kernel greater than 2.6.24? The answer is yes, but that has not stopped installing and updating syslinux before
[21:26] <ma_> ciao
[21:26] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: I've used Universal USB Installer
[21:26] <aguadito> people weren't answering me before anyway wil
[21:26] <aguadito> also WTF isn't an acronym it's an initialism
[21:26] <mahmuodm18> thank you
[21:26] <dr_willis> timtimtim:  what are you installing syslinux to exactly?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, I would check the md5sum and try unstbootin
[21:26] <ma_> yes
[21:26] <hackinblack> ok so will it automaticly know with this menu my swap partition?\
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > sssilver
[21:27] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  the installer should know/add it to the fstab yes.
[21:27] <mahmuodm18> hi
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, Sorry unetbootin
[21:27] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: it will if you choose swap as the filesystem, as dr_willis said
[21:27] <timtimtim> The config file is in the boot folder of my Arch partition, and I believe it is being installed to the mbr
[21:27] <hackinblack> For the swap it says i must have mount point or it will not use it at all
[21:27] <hackinblack> ..
[21:28] <dr_willis> timtimtim:  what/why  are you installing syslinux to somthing exactly?
[21:28] <hackinblack> I have the option of / , /boot , / home, /tmp , ect
[21:28] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  set its filesystem to be swap and it wont want a mountpoint.
[21:28] <KM0201> hackinblack: if you choose "filesystem: swap area".. under filesystem, the mount point option will disappear
[21:28] <hackinblack> dr how?
[21:29] <dr_willis> I cant see your screen.. so no idea. ;)
[21:29] <timtimtim> Because grub2 has been hell to configure, can't seem to find my other partitions, and personal preference
[21:29] <KM0201> hackinblack: do you have 1 big empty partition right now?
[21:29] <hackinblack> AWWWHWHH the format it has swap so i put it to that
[21:29] <KM0201> ok.
[21:29] <hackinblack> I got the swap now
[21:29] <hackinblack> correct
[21:29] <dr_willis> timtimtim:  i dont think syslinux will work well as a replacement for grub2,  im not even sure it will work properly with any updates and auto configureing of the kernel.
[21:30] <hackinblack> its installing. Please guys pray this works lol
[21:30] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you should be fine
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> timtimtim, With some other OS's present they need to be mounted when you run a update-grub fedora 17 is one and I believe arch as well.
[21:30] <ServerSage> timtimtim: Deviating from grub2 is just a bad idea.
[21:30] <dr_willis> bbl.
[21:30] <gordonjcp> heh
[21:30] <gordonjcp> syslinux eh
[21:30] <KM0201> hackinblack: did you set up the "/" partition?
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> timtimtim,If grub control is in ubuntu and the update run from there
[21:31] <dr_willis> ive only used syslinux on live-usb type drives, or bootable cds.
[21:31] <gordonjcp> I believe that requires a FAT partition to grab the boot files off, which is frankly madness
[21:31] <hackinblack> yes for ubuntu
[21:31] <gordonjcp> I use extlinux
[21:31] <hackinblack> Dont tell me thats wrong
[21:31] <KM0201> ok
[21:31] <KM0201> no, thats fine
[21:31] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: he did, on a primary
[21:31] <gordonjcp> do *not* use extlinux just because I do
[21:31] <hackinblack> ok
[21:31] <gordonjcp> the mere fact that I use it ought to be enough to warn you off!
[21:31] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: i figured since dr. was helping him
[21:31] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: someone almost advised him to do the side by side option after leaving unallocated space
[21:31] <timtimtim> Eh, grub2 rapes my brain. Syslinux is also extlinux now (Since syslinux 4)
[21:32] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: lmao... didn't need to go over that again thank goodness
[21:32] <timtimtim> Ill try mounting and updating grub.
[21:32] <KM0201> did thatguy ever finally listen to someone with some sense?
[21:32] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: yeah.
[21:32] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I hope so, I feel kind of bad
[21:32] <resuremade> TJ-: can you help me? Few minutes
[21:32] <KM0201> eh, it happens... i knew immediately what his problem was, but he kept just blowing me off and listening to other people, then complainning when what they said wouldn't work..lol Cyberspaceloa
[21:33] <TJ-> resuremade: what've you done now? :p
[21:33] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: Also, "Something Else" is a terrible term for manual partitioning
[21:33] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: you'll get no argument from me on that
[21:33] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  i was tempted to file a bug report on the use of 'somthing else' ;)
[21:33] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: i believe back in the day, it used to say "manual"... or something like that
[21:33] <Cyberspaceloa> dr_willis: lol
[21:33] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  i still cant figure out how to make the system auto partion and use a whole SECOND hard drive on my 2 hd systems...
[21:33] <hackinblack> yes km0201 you where right on the side by side not using unallocated space
[21:34] <dr_willis> well i gotta run.
[21:34] <KM0201> hackinblack: i know i was.... (are you the guy from last night?)
[21:34] <KM0201> i thought the name was "XDEV" or something like that
[21:34] <hackinblack> nope?
[21:34] <resuremade> TJ-: don't know) Server suddenly closed ALL ports (I didn't change any configs before that). I want to connect rescue image, but don't know what to check.
[21:34] <KM0201> oh ok.
[21:34] <Cyberspaceloa> haha
[21:34] <lawe> http://www.funny-pics.biz/fun/pic961.jpg
[21:34] <resuremade> TJ-: it only responds to ping
[21:34] <ServerSage> The sweater really sells it.
[21:35] <KM0201> hackinblack: several people last night were trying to tell me i didn't know what i was talking about, when in reality, i was the only one who had completely read his situation (granted, he was pretty annoying, so i twas easy to get sidetracked by his nonsense)
[21:35] <hackinblack> lol,
[21:35] <TJ-> resuremade: What were you doing immediately prior to the ports going AWOL?
[21:35] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: I had no idea what he was asking.
[21:35] <KM0201> i was actually hoping to see him today, and i was going to offer to help him AGAIN... i figured after a few more failed installs, he'd listen
[21:35] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: probably should have just stayed quiet like I usually do
[21:35] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: honestly, the only reason I did, is because I know the ubuntu installer almost by heart
[21:36] <KM0201> i just haven't used the live cd installer in so long, i had the wording on the "something else" screwed up
[21:36] <hackinblack> Km you know the new one? alot of people here didn't know how  this i guess "New" installer works
[21:36] <resuremade> TJ-: chatting in irc via that server. There also nginx with some redirections on it.
[21:37] <timtimtim> Hey, I got this error when running grub-install "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).", any idea?
[21:37] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: it's important to get a handle on the basic terminology because the graphical tools change so often
[21:37] <hackinblack> I bet
[21:37] <KM0201> hackinblack: if its really new, no... probably not... i almost always use the text installer... i usually check live cd's in virtualbox and try to stay abreast on their changes so i can help folsk here
[21:37] <TJ-> resuremade: Look at the log-files /var/log/* around the time it disconnected - there should be clues
[21:38] <resuremade> TJ-: ok. Last access to nginx was at [01/Oct/2012:21:15:37 +0200].
[21:39] <blargg> How do I install Skype? I tried Ubuntu Software Center, but it says not found once I add the sources. I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype, and same. That page says that Skype's web page has the wrong 64-bit version, so I'm not trying Skype's page.
[21:39] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/non-debian-partitioning.html
[21:39] <SolarisBoy> blargg: did you refresh the package index 'sudo apt-get update' after adding the new repos?
[21:39] <TJ-> resuremade: check the syslog, kern.log, auth.log, network.log
[21:40] <calimike> ls3: I tried that but it complains that I need to list out the files individually.
[21:40] <hackinblack> watch just watch
[21:41] <KM0201> hackinblack: are you multibooting various versions of linux, or windows/linux, or what?
[21:41] <blargg> And now suddenly Software Center doesn't say not found anymore, it has an Install button. So solved.
[21:41] <hackinblack> just win/linux
[21:42] <hackinblack> Why do you ask?
[21:42] <X-Raimo> hello. I have grub fail after Kubuntu 12.04 System Update. There is "GNU GRUB version 1.99-21ubuntu3.4" and just grub> prompt
[21:42] <X-Raimo> how to recover Kubuntu?
[21:42] <KM0201> hackinblack: just curious, no real reason
[21:43] <hackinblack> install is complete now lets see if this actually worked..
[21:43] <KM0201> it should have
[21:43] <hackinblack> im praying it did
[21:44] <KM0201> there's only one reason it wouldn't have, and you'd already hit install before I could mention it.. but i think you'll be ok
[21:44] <hackinblack> on restart it boots directly into windows -_-
[21:44] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: talking about SuckuROM?
[21:44] <baco> ciao
[21:44] <baco> list
[21:44] <hackinblack> any fix for that?
[21:44] <KM0201> hackinblack: i was afraid of that
[21:44] <hackinblack> It booting directly into windows
[21:45] <KM0201> you likely didn't tell it where to install grub
[21:45] <hackinblack> Do i have to do all that over again :(?
[21:45] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: his screen cap said /dev/sda
[21:45] <KM0201> there's probably a way to install grub w/o all that.. but honestly.. i'm not really sure how.
[21:45] <Cyberspaceloa> http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh532/NGUH1/DSCF0161_zps3f2160c6.jpg
[21:45] <hackinblack> I told it to install grub where i installed ubuntu
[21:45] <Cyberspaceloa> ah
[21:46] <KM0201> hackinblack: where was that?.. sda3 or 4 i assume?
[21:46] <hackinblack> sda3
[21:46] <KM0201> yup, thats why it failed
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, You have a live cd?
[21:46] <hackinblack> where should have i ?
[21:46] <KM0201> it needs to be eithe ron a boot partition (i never do that) or on the mbr..
[21:46] <KM0201> hackinblack: exactly where the default was.. /dev/sda
[21:47] <hackinblack> jeSsSSSSus
[21:47] <hackinblack> is there a way to do
[21:47] <hackinblack> ah im tired man
[21:47] <KM0201> !gfrub
[21:47] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: searching for forum threads/tutorials right now
[21:47] <KM0201> !grub
[21:47] <Cyberspaceloa> or ubottu could just do it
[21:47] <hackinblack> Ill try it one last time,
[21:48] <KM0201> i believe there's a grub install utility in the repositories, that you can use on the live cd, hold on just a sec hackinblack
[21:48] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: only flash stick
[21:48] <hackinblack> ok
[21:48] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: you can likely install it to the correct partition
[21:48] <hackinblack> Can you help find it? i have no idea
[21:48] <resuremade> TJ-: that's all. Maybe it's iptables problem again?
[21:48] <hackinblack> im booting up live cd and try ubuntu option
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, with the live cd on it? This was not a install fro windows right?  Notice two questions here.
[21:48] <KM0201> hackinblack: Cyberspaceloa https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing   look under "installation options live cd"
[21:49] <TJ-> resuremade: Look at syslog. There's loads of UFW BLOCK messages for all connections
[21:49] <shishire> Is there a good reason that archive.ubuntu.com is listed before security.ubuntu.com in the 10.04 /etc/apt/sources.list?  Will weird or bad things happen if I reverse those lines?  Nagios doesn't detect security upgrades unless I do so, but I want to make sure it doesn't mess with my ability to update.
[21:49] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12262958, but grub says: "invalid file name vmlinuz"
[21:49] <Guest87862> Can someone help me? im trying to use cinnamon desktop but when i log in, my screen says "out of range" is there any way i can log in with a certain resolution?
[21:49] <KM0201> wait, nevermind.
[21:49] <KM0201> that seems to be when you're actually installing
[21:49] <KM0201> !nomodeset | Guest87862
[21:50] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: with live cd. Grub failed after update+reboot
[21:50] <resuremade> TJ-: oh, you're right.
[21:50] <hackinblack> yea i was looking what about reinstalling grub
[21:50] <TJ-> resuremade: Are any of those block reports for your IP address (your client, not that server) ?
[21:50] <KM0201> hackinblack: hold on, there's a way to do it, i believe its a utility in the repositories
[21:50] <superpie> why doesnt alt tab work in ubuntu
[21:51] <resuremade> TJ-: yes, that's my ip in SRC
[21:51] <KM0201> superpie: works fine for me
[21:51] <hackinblack> or what about this sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  # Example: sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[21:51] <KM0201> hackinblack: yeah, reinstalling grub2, thats what you want
[21:51] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: grub-install ?
[21:51] <hackinblack> ?
[21:51] <TJ-> resuremade: So somehow it's managed to block you!
[21:51] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: hackinblack negative... scroll down just a bit more, under where it says  "fixing a broken system":
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, I am going to assume this is not a wubi install, which is a install from windows. Boot the live cd from the thumb or a cd and chroot in and run the commands where this wiki defaults. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[21:52] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: hackinblack you will see "via boot repair graphical tool"... use that
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, This wiki tells you how to chroot and what commands read very carefully.
[21:52] <resuremade> TJ-: unbelievable. I've typed only two ufw commands: allow 6697 and enable
[21:53] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: yes, thanx, but it seems lilke I have grub-1.99
[21:53] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: great link, bookmarked
[21:53] <lJ6il> Hi. Great news, a friend is very happy cause she has received her Asus EeePC 1225C. "Oh, it's an Intel gpu, should be fine !"... Disaster. Impossible to reach another resolution than 1024x768. It's a GMA 3600. Does someone know something about it ?
[21:53] <hackinblack> not seeing?
[21:53] <hackinblack> that
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, That is for grub 2 which is 1.99
[21:53] <nasar> how can install driver nvidia 96xx
[21:53] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: not seeing the link or the section you need?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, As I suggested read it carefully there is a command to make sure you know which partition the ubuntu install is on run it first
[21:54] <KM0201> hackinblack: go here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  and scroll down to "2nd option: install boot-repair in ubuntu"
[21:55] <KM0201> hackinblack: then follow the "using boot repair" instructions
[21:55] <hackinblack> the link cyber and ok km
[21:55] <KM0201> directly under that
[21:55] <resuremade> TJ-: It can't block all ports after simple 'allow' and 'enable', right?
[21:55] <TJ-> resuremade: I don't know what else you've done! Obviously something unusual has occurred
[21:55] <hackinblack> alright im going to try this
[21:56] <resuremade> TJ-: only installed znc and bitlbee. Other commands was without sudo.
[21:56] <KM0201> hackinblack: worst that happens, is we'll reinstall real quick... but i think that will work
[21:57] <Cyberspaceloa> nice. help a little bit, learn a little bit. That's what's great about IRC
[21:57] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: yup... trust me, i've learned so much just by sitting in here and watching some of the more experienced folks solve things over the years... after a while, i was comfortable helping people myself
[21:57] <nasar> how can install driver nvidia 96xx
[21:58] <KM0201> nasar: should be in the "additional drivers" utility
[21:58] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: I finally did: linux (hd0,msdos5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-31-generic=pae root=/dev/sda5 and it works
[21:59] <MrBushido> lol, i just did usermod -G somegroup myuser instead of usermod -a -G somegroup myuser and lost my group settings. how do i revert it back (most importantly get back in to sudoers) :<
[21:59] <hackinblack> alright its installing
[21:59] <resuremade> Where cutsom ufw rules are actually stored?
[22:00] <KM0201> MrBushido: lol, gotta be careful using those termianl commands, you might need to boot the recovery option from Grub to handle that
[22:00] <hackinblack> it installed
[22:00] <Cyberspaceloa> resuremade: I believe they're in /etc/ufw
[22:00] <KM0201> hackinblack: now follow the "using" section on that link.. and make sure you put grub on /dev/sda
[22:00] <MrBushido> KM0201: will do, any idea what groups i need to be a member of?
[22:00] <KM0201> lol
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, If your in the ubuntu then run sudo fdisk -l and find the HD your are on HD=the flash and reload grub to the mbr with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   X is the letter of the flash like a or b or c...etc, no partition then run sudo update-grub
[22:01] <KM0201> MrBushido: well, at bare minimum, you need to be in "sudo" and your "username" (whatever your username is)... that should get you working again, you can tackle the rest as you go
[22:01] <hackinblack> i am
[22:02] <MrBushido> KM0201: aye, thanks <3
[22:02] <resuremade> TJ-: last question)  How I reset to defaults firewall settings through rescue image?
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, good job on a manual boot most can't figure that out. ;)
[22:02] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: I did. Thanx a lot. This update wasn't best moment in my life
[22:02] <hackinblack> i ran a auto repair and now it says boot successfully repaired
[22:03] <TJ-> resuremade: I'm not sure, UFW keeps all its rules in /etc/ufw/*
[22:03] <KM0201> hackinblack: hmm, i'm surprised auto would work... but worst that happens, is you try again
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, It has happened to a lot of users did it to me as wel.
[22:03] <KM0201> try to boot it, see what happens
[22:03] <hackinblack> idk
[22:03] <hackinblack> it says also though
[22:03] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: o, yes. I just did loader's job step-by-step
[22:03] <hackinblack> your bios may not detect them, you may want to retry after creating a /boot partition ext 4 200 mb from start of disc.
[22:03] <hackinblack> Something about the boot files of ubnutu are far from the start of the disk
[22:03] <TJ-> resuremade: "man ufw" says "ufw reset"
[22:04] <KM0201> yeah, it just put grub back on /dev/sda3 again from the sounds of it
[22:04] <KM0201> you're going to need to follow the "advanced options" directly below that
[22:04] <resuremade> TJ-: there is no ufw on rescue image
[22:04] <hackinblack> why?
[22:04] <X-Raimo> wilee-nilee: I used to recover grub via chroot, but before this update didn't have experience with grub2
[22:04] <KM0201> just a hunch.. try restarting and see if it works
[22:04] <KM0201> i may be wrong
[22:05] <hackinblack> No it works i get the Grub menu THANK GOD. but what did that mean about ubuntu being far from the start of the disk is this bad?
[22:05] <lsj8924> 中文
[22:05] <KM0201> hackinblack: i dunno, i wouldn't worry about it.
[22:05] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: someone last night was saying that your specific setup had potential for errors later on down the line
[22:06] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: but as to what those would be, I don't know
[22:06] <KM0201> Cyberspaceloa: i was just wondering that.. and they were probably referring to when grub upgrades with new kernel entries
[22:06] <hackinblack> last night?
[22:06] <Cyberspaceloa> KM0201: good point
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> X-Raimo, Yeah, I just use a supergrub loaded to a multiloaded ISO thumb if I run into problems which is hardly ever as I have 4 OS's on my HD, and know where the grub control is but have had to chroot on occasion, no biggie for me.
[22:06] <lsj8924> 我如何说中文
[22:06] <KM0201> yup... i just thought of that
[22:06] <TJ-> resuremade: OK, edit the defaults for UFW. The rescue image will have mounted the broken system to some directory. Look in that directory for the file "etc/default/ufw" - its text - edit it
[22:06] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: we were dealing with some of these issues last night
[22:06] <KM0201> hackinblack: someone far more dense than you was having a similar problem to what you're having right now.. only he just wouldn't listen
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> lsj8924, You are back this channel is english.
[22:06] <Cyberspaceloa> lol
[22:06] <hackinblack> lol
[22:07] <hackinblack> so my setup isnt good?
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> !cn > lsj8924
[22:07] <tryy3> if i install ubuntu with a cd, do i get an option to install it with dual-boot? or do i haft to do something to make it dual boot?
[22:07] <KM0201> hackinblack: thats the only fear i have.. is tha twhen grub upgrades w/ new kernel entries, etc.. they will not get added.
[22:07] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: it might be good until your next update
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, What is on the HD now?
[22:07] <hackinblack> all i need linux for is the terminal and to compile
[22:07] <KM0201> i would reboot the live cd, and use the "advanced" options, to put grub on the mbr... or just do a clean install again, since you know what you did wrong
[22:07] <lsj8924> how
[22:07] <tryy3> wilee-nilee windows 7
[22:07] <TJ-> hackinblack: Some BIOSs can't read sectors beyond 512MB (or something like that) into the disk. So a boot-loader with 2nd or 3rd-stage files beyond that point will fail, since it is relying on the BIOS disk read() functions to fetch the sectors from the disk
[22:08] <lsj8924> how can i join the chinese channel ?
[22:08] <hackinblack> ah god
[22:08] <KM0201> lsj8924: /join #channelname
[22:08] <hackinblack> so how would i know if im having problems updating kernal or kernal not updating?
[22:08] <TJ-> hackinblack: Those BIOSes are usually *very* old now, although newer limits apply of, I think the 2GB boundary
[22:08] <trinode> Hi, is there any way to stop ubuntu switching to a high resolution terminal halfway through booting?
[22:08] <zykotick9> !cn | lsj8924
[22:08] <KM0201> hackinblack: you will not see new entries in your grub list, or upgrades will tell you that new entries couldn't be added to grub... that sort of thing
[22:09] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: A clean install is... cleaner, but you can try and save time by using the advanced options
[22:09] <malkauns> does Unity also crash frequently for u guys?
[22:09] <lsj8924>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[22:09] <KM0201> brb, dinner
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, Are you familiar with the limitations of primaries in the amount of, on a single HD?
[22:09] <hackinblack> advance options in?
[22:09] <hackinblack> boot repair?
[22:09] <tryy3> wilee-nilee not really :S
[22:09] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: yes, the tool you used to fix grub
[22:10] <hackinblack> this all can be fixed down the line right?
[22:10] <hackinblack> maybe when i notice these problems?
[22:10] <hackinblack> or should i do them now
[22:10] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: it's really up to you. I prefer to fix everything I know about right away
[22:11] <hackinblack> true.  Idk, how hard would it be
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, you are allowed a max of 4 primary partitions on a HD with a standard msdos type partitioning which yours "probably" is, boot the live ubuntu cd open gpartede and take a screen shot and put it in a imagebin.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> gparted*
[22:11] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: the advantage of doing it now is: the problem is fresh in your mind
[22:12] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: and you have a handy graphical tool that automates it for you that you may forget
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, THis HD limitation is a imperative issue, you can brick your setup if you install to many.  Do you have the windows fully backed up in case of a bricked setup?
[22:12] <Timtube> does anyone draw?
[22:12] <hackinblack> that tool isnt still installed right?
[22:12] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: my advice if you decide to leave it till later is to notate the name of this tool so you can use it or an equivalent in the future
[22:12] <hackinblack> cause i was on livecd
[22:12] <Timtube> does anyone draw?
[22:12] <hackinblack> or is it?
[22:12] <hackinblack> I can try now
[22:12] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: I believe you will need to reinstall it
[22:12] <hackinblack> reinstall?
[22:12] <hackinblack> awh the tool
[22:13] <hackinblack> ok
[22:13] <tryy3> wilee-nilee i belive so, could it be safer to like split the HD and install ubuntu on the splited HD?
[22:13] <hackinblack> i treid installing updates and the animation wasnt working not sure if bug or
[22:13] <zykotick9> Timtube: how is drawing an ubuntu support question?
[22:13] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: unfortunately I'm not familiar with the 12.04 graphical environment
[22:14] <hackinblack> what version are you
[22:14] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: 12.04 Xubuntu
[22:14] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: I need to get some work done, do you feel like you understand everything well enough?
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, I would not know without you following what I ask, I have the suspicion you do not understand me and that is not good. If you do not understand say so and lets get on the same page, otherwise we are wasting each others time.
[22:14] <hackinblack> yea for now
[22:15] <Cyberspaceloa> hackinblack: okay, well I'm usually in here and so is KM
[22:15] <tryy3> wilee-nilee i understood to the part that i gonna burn a cd with ubuntu on and then boot it on the desktop then after that i didn't understand
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, Cool I don't think I'm your best help here I don't really have the patience to go through this sort of drill, others will help you though. ;)
[22:17] <hackinblack> I have to go, ill be back later Km could you help me then with this new problem?
[22:17] <tryy3> wilee-nilee oh ok
[22:18] <barnex> Hello, is there a way to scroll the currently active window? I
[22:18] <barnex> sry
[22:18] <WillenCMD> Ubuntu i am breaking up with you... ...Its not you it's me i swear.  You where great in the beginning afterall you took my linux virginity.  But im more experienced now and i need more freedom.  I want you to know im seeing another distro, very soon i plan to mount her, and Make her, and Install her into my heart.  So Farewell
[22:18] <bobo37773> WillenCMD: :P
[22:19] <barnex> Hello, is there a way to scroll the currently active window? I'm using mouse scroll event now, but it only works where the mouse pointer is - which isn't always the active window.
[22:19] <bobo37773> barnex: PageUp key ?
[22:20] <OerHeks> hold the win-key for quick help shortkeys
[22:20] <barnex> yes, I considered that, but I'd like to scroll less than a page
[22:20] <zykotick9> barnex: on my WM i have focus following pointer.  best of luck.  i have no suggestions how you can do it.
[22:20] <barnex> zykotick9: thanks, I too have focus following pointer, but I can change focus with keyboard without moving mouse.
[22:22] <zykotick9> barnex: interesting.  the window with the mouse actually still scrolls here, even though the cursor is in another window.  interesting.  (you'll see/experience something different most likely)
[22:22] <zykotick9> barnex: as soon as i type though, it switches ;)
[22:24] <ziggyzero> Hi could somebody help me with file/folder permissions issue
[22:25] <ziggyzero> I have a CIFS share that I ma automounting in FSTAB
[22:25] <ziggyzero> It's in FSTAB as: //192.168.1.2/docs /mnt/docs cifs auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=bill,gid=staff,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0
[22:26] <ziggyzero> It mounts fine -- but new folders/files that are written in it are created with 700 permissions
[22:26] <ziggyzero> I was hoping to have them created with 755. umask shows 0022
[22:28] <VlanZ> not sure why ubuntu 12.04 does not allow you to move the unity bar
[22:28] <zykotick9> ziggyzero: (there is NOTHING "wrong" with what you are doing, so you can safely disregard if you want)  but /mnt exists as a temporary mount point, so at any time a user should be able to mount to /mnt directly (that would break your system).  standards for directories are kinda ugly though, probably the most "proper" think to do would be create a subdirectory under /srv (though i typically make improper root directories like /Music /Movies /Fi
[22:29] <tryy3> if i install ubuntu with a cd, do i get an option to install it with dual-boot? or do i haft to do something to make it dual boot? (iam new to ubuntu/linux)
[22:30] <dewufwe> I have a question about mounting windows partitions
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> tryy3  run it from cd and you'll see -- yes, you can install it in dual-boot
[22:31] <tryy3> MonkeyDust ah thanks for confirming :D
[22:31] <barnex> ziggyzero: have you tried dynperm mount options? Since you are using file_mode and dir_mode I assume server doesn't support CIFS unix extensions?
[22:32] <barnex> ziggyzero: documentation makes it sound like it might help in your case, but I'm just reading it out of boredom and have no experience with such systems.
[22:32] <ziggyzero> zykotick9: Can you think of any reason why when anything is written to /mnt/docs the files are created with 700 meaning only the owner 'Bill' can access them
[22:32] <dewufwe> I have two ntfs partitions (because of dual-booting), I want users to be able to mount/use one of them on demand, administrators should be able to mount all of them, Because of external library dependencies ntfs-3g is not able to do it when I edit fstab
[22:32] <dewufwe> now I want to use udev rules, but I don't know how
[22:34] <oscar_> Hello, I have problems trying to access my system, I'm using ubuntu 11.04, I only see this massage: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present. -Help please
[22:38] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:39] <KM0201> hackinblack: whats wrong now?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> oscar_  encrypted swap?
[22:41] <dewufwe> oscar_: you might look at /etc/crypttab
[22:41] <dewufwe> have you changed anything just before the boot started to fail
[22:43] <oscar_> dewufwe: my computer was off suddenly
[22:45] <Domincii> http://imgur.com/a/krup9 this is what Steam is looking like for me, any help?
[22:46] <Cell> Domincii: try reinstalling it
[22:46] <Domincii> how do I delete the current install?
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  delete the partition
[22:49] <Domincii> How? I really suck at this, sorry.
[22:56] <dimrim> hi, looking for help with freenx-server and sound, had someone experience with it?
[22:59] <mgodzilla> any suggestions on a good email client that won't suck up all my system resources?
[22:59] <mgodzilla> thunderbird is takin' like 2/3 my memory.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> mgodzilla, How much memory do you have?
[23:00] <mgodzilla> 1.2gb.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> mgodzilla, Hmm thunderbird here uses about 1/3 of your 2/3rds are you sure that is the culprit?
[23:02] <ahmedipa_> hi everybody
[23:02] <mgodzilla> when i quit - sys mon shows it memory usage goin' down by 'bout that much.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> mgodzilla, Look at it with top or a installed htop
[23:03] <mgodzilla> but to be truthful, i don't know what the fuck i'm doin' on ubunty.
[23:03] <mgodzilla> okay.  thanks, wilee-nilee :)
[23:04] <mgodzilla> ah...i see now.  thanks again.
[23:10] <dewufwe> anyone on my earlier questions
[23:10] <dewufwe> I have two ntfs partitions (because of dual-booting), I want users to be able to mount/use one of them on demand, administrators should be able to mount all of them, Because of external library dependencies ntfs-3g is not able to do it when I edit fstab
[23:10] <dewufwe> now I want to use udev rules, but I don't know how
[23:10] <Drians> hello
[23:11] <Drians> werdanith, coucou
[23:11] <Colatra> hi all
[23:11] <ccvp> is RR2012 Linux being discontinued? they doing ubuntu instead
[23:12] <Drians> Colatra,  hello
[23:12] <ccvp> anyone know?
[23:12] <Drians> Colatra,  do you speak french?
[23:12] <Colatra> no
[23:12] <Drians> Colatra, ah ok
[23:12] <Colatra> i speak english and portuguese
[23:13] <Drians> Colatra, ah ok i live at madagascar but i don't speak english very well
[23:13] <ccvp> Tomorrow Night - presidential debates. Watch the community organizer in chief look frail, revealing the shill he is at his core. Romney / Ryan 2012.
[23:13] <jagginess> !ot
[23:13] <Colatra> ok lol
[23:14] <nixiedoesslack> eh guys uporn is not opening in ubuntu
[23:14] <Drians> Colatra, but you can help me now?
[23:14] <hackinblack> YES i got windows and ubuntu <3
[23:14] <ccvp> hackinblack
[23:14] <nixiedoesslack> redtube nothing is working in ubuntu
[23:14] <hackinblack> Only need windows for steam though
[23:14]  * jagginess thinks the usa dollar is a doomed and thinks is ot. thinks usa sux.
[23:14] <ccvp> "YES WE CAN"
[23:14] <jagginess> !ops ccvp
[23:14] <Colatra> no sorry i go to sleep
[23:14] <nixiedoesslack> most of the porn sites not working in ubuntu
[23:14] <ccvp> jagginess, hello
[23:14] <Drians> Colatra, snif ok
[23:14] <nixiedoesslack> connection timed out
[23:14] <nixiedoesslack> any remedies
[23:15] <Colatra> good night people
[23:15] <hackinblack> nixie are you serious or joking?
[23:15]  * Drians who can helpe me please?
[23:15] <ccvp> Nesticulated Plehm Brawn Dreezies
[23:15] <nixiedoesslack> ubuntu is having a wetdream in networing i think
[23:15] <Drians> hackinblack,  hello
[23:16] <hackinblack> hay
[23:16] <nixiedoesslack> u think am joking
[23:16] <Drians> hackinblack,  can you help me just a few minute ?
[23:16] <nixiedoesslack> most of the porn sites are not opening connection timed out
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> nixiedoesslack, If you mention that stuff again I will call the ops it is not allowed
[23:16] <hackinblack> What you need help with?
[23:17] <nixiedoesslack> porn sites won't open
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> !ops | nixiedoesslack
[23:17] <nixiedoesslack> a
[23:17] <nixiedoesslack> whachu talkin bout bastards
[23:17] <Fuchs> nixiedoesslack: that is not very friendly on topic in here, please drop it, thanks :)
[23:18] <Drians> hackinblack,  i'm news in the system of ubuntu, my father was lock the access of site web,can you to tell me if i can use command for that
[23:18] <nixiedoesslack> damn kids
[23:18] <nixiedoesslack> :P
[23:18] <Drians> XD
[23:19] <hackinblack> Im sure it was for a good reason Drains
[23:19] <hackinblack> Ill brb shower
[23:19] <jovono> hello, I recently had to install ubuntu 8.10 intrepid ibex hoping to start upgrading from there, but I cannot update or upgrade anything, I get "server not found errors". please help!
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> jovono, That is way past end of life
[23:20] <jovono> ha ha
[23:20] <jovono> I know!
[23:20] <jovono> but it was the only cd I had
[23:20] <barnex> 'cd'? What's that? :P
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> jovono, just a waste of time
[23:20] <zykotick9> !eol | jovono
[23:20] <nixiedoesslack> guys why ubuntu has become so buggy
[23:20] <jovono> now I don't know if I can install any new version without loosing my partitions
[23:21] <Fuchs> nixiedoesslack: again, please do keep this channel here free for support :)
[23:21] <nixiedoesslack> i need support
[23:21] <zykotick9> jovono: updating from that is insane IMO
[23:21] <Fuchs> nixiedoesslack: if you are in a silly mood, I'd recommend maybe not ircing.
[23:21] <nixiedoesslack> ok
[23:21] <zykotick9> nixiedoesslack: it's always been buggy?
[23:21] <jovono> mmm how can I install a new version without loosing my partitions?
[23:21] <hackinblack> Is there a way to change grub theme?
[23:22] <nixiedoesslack> i have adsl-pppoe since ubuntu 11.04 ubuntu won't load websites
[23:22] <hackinblack> purple is a bit...
[23:22] <nixiedoesslack> r8169 driver
[23:22] <nixiedoesslack> it is abug
[23:22] <barnex> jovono: when installing new version just don't change the disk layout and don't mark partitions for formatting
[23:22] <OerHeks> sounds like dns problem
[23:22] <barnex> note somewhere the mountpoints of partitions you have
[23:22] <barnex> so you can reenter them in advanced config
[23:22] <jovono> mmm ok
[23:22] <jovono> thanks
[23:22] <barnex> I'm not sure this will work with /
[23:23] <barnex> but I've done this many times with partition mounted at /home
[23:23] <WeThePeople> funny thing, I opened up gparted and the entire hdd is all unallocated space.. i dual boot winxp and lucid, how do i get gparted to show the partitions
[23:23] <jovono> thanks a lot barnex
[23:25] <oscar_> Hello, I have problems trying to access my system, I'm using ubuntu 11.04, I only see this massage: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present. -Help please
[23:25] <hackinblack> Does anyone else use irssi for irc?
[23:26] <hackinblack> Or know any other terminal based irc programs
[23:27] <WeThePeople> oscar_, plymoth has to do with boot sequence, see>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth
[23:27] <blackshirt> hackinblack: yes, irssi was greats
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> oscar_  I suspect there are things preceding this they are important to include.
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> in other words details
[23:28] <sssilver> OK so I have redownloaded Ubuntu, MD5 matches that in http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS, wrote it to a USB stick using unetbootin, and again -- during boot I get 3 options, and whichever I choose I get a blank screen with no disk activity on either HD or USB. What gives?
[23:28] <sssilver> I think my computer crashes too, because my numlock won't go off/on
[23:29] <Cell> maybe your hard disk is bad
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, the http is a not found
[23:29] <sssilver> Cell I have unplugged my hard disk, and also LiveCD won't work
[23:29] <hackinblack> was? is there something better? Im still using irssi
[23:29] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[23:30] <sssilver> OerHeks: that also won't help me
[23:30] <oscar_> wilee-nilee: this happen when i am at the users login, i try to log, but the system comes back to the users acces menue, what other datails could be useful?
[23:31] <sssilver> actually, even the Disk Check option will behave the exact same way
[23:31] <OerHeks> sssilver, what type processor and videocard ?
[23:32] <sssilver> OerHeks: Intel i7, nVidia GeForce 6600 GTX
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> oscar_, I wont be able to help other then to say if you did any changes right before this that is important info, if it is a random occurrence than I guess the channel will have to work with that.
[23:32] <sssilver> OerHeks: I'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:32] <OerHeks> should work ..
[23:34] <overclucker> it's strange that memtest wont even start
[23:34] <sssilver> I take out --silent and splash from the kernel options, and add nomodeset --- there is still absolutely no output
[23:34] <WeThePeople> what is 1 block = to in MB
[23:34] <sssilver> is there any way to ensure just text mode and at least some debug output?
[23:34] <overclucker> oh, nvm, he said disk check
[23:34] <oscar_> wilee-nilee: my system was sudenttly off, then this happen
[23:35] <aguitel> how to boot old laptop with no bios usb support ?
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> oscar_, That can cause problems, but I'm not the one for help I'm just trying to get you to post pertinent information.
[23:36] <sssilver> could my problem be caused by acpi?
[23:36] <OerHeks> aguitel, tru PXe boot, if the laptopadapter supports this, most do
[23:36] <overclucker> aguitel: yeah try a network boot
[23:36] <OerHeks> acpi=vendor maybe
[23:36] <jovono> how can I tell the hardware architecture on mu computer?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, You might try a alternative cd a text install, the web reports that card as problematic at some point not sure if it still is.
[23:37] <aguitel> overclucker, how dodthat
[23:37] <jagginess> jovono, hwinfo, dmidecode
[23:38] <jagginess> jovono, windows, click on right-mouse button on 'My computer'
[23:38] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: I'm trying with the onboard video card as well, same problem
[23:38] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: I've just assembled this processor + motherboard, I'm wondering if I've done something wrong...
[23:38] <jovono> not windows, but Ubuntu
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> sssilver, I would never know myself.
[23:39] <sssilver> OerHeks: acpi=vendor and acpi=off didn't help, same stuff
[23:39] <overclucker> aguitel: it's actaully quite a pain to set up
[23:39] <overclucker> actually*
[23:39] <sssilver> wilee-nilee: OerHeks: so is there a way to ask the installer to be text-mode and verbose?
[23:40] <aguitel> what is PXe boot
[23:40] <overclucker> preboot execution
[23:40] <OerHeks> !alternate
[23:41] <overclucker> pxe is network booting.
[23:42] <sssilver> thanks OerHeks
[23:43] <hackinblack> back
[23:44] <io__> hi today i started my laptop and it stays on a black screen and won t boot, it gets ot the bios then yo the loading OS page then black, fans spin (i7, gtx560m, ssd, clevo p150hm)
[23:46] <ahmedipa> hello everybody
[23:46] <WeThePeople> hi
[23:46] <ahmedipa> welcome to this channel
[23:46] <ahmedipa> I am now installing playonlinux
[23:46]  * WeThePeople shrugs
[23:47] <ahmedipa> application
[23:47] <WeThePeople> io__, then yo <<<??
[23:48] <io__> WeThePeople: *to
[23:48] <ahmedipa> as I read that I can install windows software and windows game on linux
[23:48] <WeThePeople> io__, do you dual boot?
[23:48] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, you will need wine
[23:48] <io__> WeThePeople: weird issue and answer for you, it does tghe same in Windows 7
[23:49] <h00k> ahmedipa: you can with wine also, and support for wine can be found in ##winehq channel
[23:49] <WeThePeople> io__, probally hardware issue
[23:49] <h00k> !appdb | ahmedipa also this can help
[23:49] <io__> bios, loads the OS then it makes it to the login page then goes blank (black actually), fans spinning
[23:49] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: I will try then I will install wine
[23:49] <io__> WeThePeople: i can boot Ubuntu in failsafe
[23:50] <jagginess> ahmedipa, i've installed desura from desura.com.. (very easy to do so, but games are limitted to linux, maybe soon things will change)
[23:50] <overclucker> i thought playonlinux did wine for you.
[23:50] <WeThePeople> io__, what distro
[23:50] <io__> i can even boot ubuntu on an older kernel
[23:50] <io__> WeThePeople: 12.04 64
[23:50] <io__> very very weird
[23:51] <WeThePeople> io__, so you can get to tty?
[23:51] <io__> I d say it is an nvidia driver problem
[23:51] <io__> but why in windows at the same time?
[23:51] <io__> WeThePeople: sure, do yo uthink it is better in recovery mode or with an old kernel?
[23:52] <WeThePeople> io__, recovery mode
[23:52] <WeThePeople> io__, do you have internet access in tty?
[23:52] <io__> ok drop to root shell?
[23:52] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get install wine
[23:52] <ahmedipa>  do you mean this
[23:52] <io__> or try the failsafe mode?
[23:53] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, yes, somthin
[23:54] <WeThePeople> io__, can you upgrade the distro
[23:54] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: but I found this problem E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:54] <ahmedipa> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:54] <io__> oh Ubuntu i haven t got a root password
[23:54] <io__> screw it
[23:54] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: what's wrong with that
[23:55] <io__> failsafe gives error: no screen found
[23:55] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, another program might be using it
[23:55] <io__> WeThePeople: can i force to reinstall the last kernel from an older kernel boot?
[23:55] <WeThePeople> io__, are you at the tty?
[23:56] <io__> no i can t damn ubuntu doesn t give a root passord by default right?
[23:56] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: do you mean that I install another application
[23:56] <io__> i need to reboot on an older kernel at least i can reach gnome
[23:56] <WeThePeople> io__, do that get to a terminal or tty
[23:56] <oscar_> MonkeyDust: can you help me?
[23:56] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: so I can't install two application
[23:57] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, you can install wine and playonlinux??
[23:57] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: I am installing playonlinux
[23:57] <OerHeks> only one instance to softwaresources, or terminal or softwarecentre.
[23:57] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, so when installing wine you got the error
[23:57] <WeThePeople> ?
[23:58] <oscar_> MonkeyDust: my user and swap is encrypted
[23:58] <io__> WeThePeople: ok i am in
[23:58] <WeThePeople> io__, do you have internet access?
[23:58] <davidgilmour> anyone has a suggestion on the quickest way to deploy a LAMP server using PHP4?
[23:59] <io__> davidgilmour: use an older version of xammp
[23:59] <Hayate> hello,good morning