[00:04] after 6 years with gnome 2 i felt in love with xfce and xubuntu, yay!! [00:32] doing a fresh install of xubuntu right now [00:39] welcome [00:48] hello [00:51] Hi [00:51] hello [00:52] what does 'configuring hardware' mean? [00:52] xubuntu919: providing you with hardware support [00:53] the operating system is installing and "configuring the hardware", making it work, when possible... out of the box [00:55] oh ok, it's just been taking a while [00:55] if its not installed after 40 minutes, id start to get concerned [00:55] sometimes, it takes like 10 minutes [00:56] hello, is there an alternative to the propietary drivers app? [00:56] tete: you mean, and app to pop up and offer proprietary drivers? [00:56] the pop up! [00:57] to install propietary drivers! [00:57] tete: i mean, any package manager [00:58] if you are getting drivers from the vedors, they will likely have instructions [00:58] i mean, in ubuntu you get an option to install the propietary driver, like it search it for you [00:58] i am not sure if have the drivers correctly installed [01:00] what do I do if the 'configuring hardware' step has been going on for an hour? the drop down option says things are still happening though [01:17] what do I do if the 'configuring hardware' step has been going on for an hour? the drop down option says things are still happening though === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [04:15] I am trying to install Xubuntu on my desktop from a USB stick. But when I try to start the installer or select "Try Xubuntu" all I get is this: http://hoel.us/photo.JPG , any ideas on what might be wrong? [07:01] test [07:02] try #test [07:03] Hello people out there, I recently installed Xubuntu on my Intel P4 machine and worked like charm until i started seeing "problem activating swap", after that its never booting only, Isuspect this has happened because of improper shut down, I do not have a UPS, so whenever electricity supply goes off, my computer terminates without proper shutdown [07:06] https://www.google.fi/search?q=problem+activating+swap [07:16] is there a way to tell a panel to stay in the background [07:16] so any program is able to overlap [07:20] koegs: basically no [07:20] ok, so i have to use any dock instead :) [07:21] yup [07:21] xubuntu506: can you boot from a livecd? [07:21] xubuntu506: or liveusb? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [07:37] hey i was wondering if its possibel to install kde and gnome on the same 12.04 installation, arent they just desktop managers and i can switch between them freely [07:37] this is for ubuntu also, not xubuntu, sry.. [07:38] you can have all desktops installed, just select what to use on login [07:38] yea, thats what i thought.. [07:38] thnx for the heads up=) [07:38] np [07:39] \adios [08:44] hello [08:45] There is no Xubuntu Facebook Page :( [08:46] I think i have found it, but dunno if its official [08:48] Bluesky02: it is on the front-page... http://xubuntu.org/ [08:48] "Xubuntu Users on Facebook" [08:48] ugh [08:49] Bluesky02: xubuntu is affiliated with facebook in any way, so there can't be an official facebook page [08:55] facebook, what for? [08:55] maybe instagram xubuntu page? [08:55] lol [09:02] :D [11:09] hello, how can i set files with MPD extension to open with a wine app called MLCAD ? [11:13] xubuntu783: dont know, but have you looked for setting in wine to associate the .MPD files to you preferred app [11:14] they open with linux text editors [11:15] i want it just with mlcad , i got it it opens mlcad but empty without the selected file [11:16] i'm checking other file and programs [11:18] and how i add it to wine in main menu it shows in others only [11:21] xubuntu783: have a look at this file /usr/share/applications/defaults.list [11:21] [11:22] ok [11:25] xubuntu783: there is an easier way, if you right click on one of the ..MPD files and select properties [11:26] there is a open with setting [11:26] i have xubuntu [11:27] i don't see all options in properties to change file [11:27] i see [11:27] now is selected [11:29] but i think it only does wine pathofprogram program [11:30] and doesn't get the selected file [11:30] the program was installed manually no installed i have to say [11:34] xubuntu783: dont know wine, but get the .MPD to open in wine first, then I'd try set the file type in wine so it know what program to use [11:35] i'll see faq of wine then [11:35] wine isn't that alcohol ? [11:36] :D [11:43] xubuntu783: also , where you set the open with to "wine" , you can also put "wine " somthing like "wine mlcad" [11:46] yea i'll try [12:21] good morning...I've compiled the latest version of gcc yesterday, but I still have the latest version of gcc installed on my workstation, how can I do in order to set as default compiler the latest version of gcc? If I do gcc --version it still print me that it is the old one [12:26] !alternatives [12:26] To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal. [12:31] jewels: CC=/path/to/gcc [12:32] I have to put gcc in the bin directory? [12:33] I have removed the old one executable [12:33] The program 'gcc' can be found in the following packages: [12:33] * gcc [12:33] * pentium-builder [12:33] Try: sudo apt-get install [12:34] I've tried creating symlink to the executable that were been installed in the /opt/gcc-4.7.2/bin directory [12:35] jewels: why not just install the build-essential package ? [12:36] I've just installed it..but I want the latest version of the gcc compiler [12:36] on my xubuntu I have the 4.6 version, now i've installed the 4.7.2 [12:37] jewels: do you have any idea what you are doing ? [12:37] jewels: why do you need the latest GCC version ? [12:39] I just want to have all the newest package available [12:41] I frequently program in C or C++ so I just want to have all the newest development tools [12:41] why ? [12:41] sorry, that's just crazy [12:41] crazy? [12:42] I don't think that compiling gcc is crazy.. [12:42] it is for no reason [12:42] and changing hte version away from what your whole OS is built on..... [12:43] and why you are trying to symlink it to /usr/bin I don't know, rather than just run it from /opt [12:44] yes but I just want to do simply from my console [12:44] gcc [12:44] and run the newest version [12:44] nothing more [12:45] right so change your PATH [12:45] rather than start creating sylinks that may break other things [12:45] or use the environment variable CC [12:45] I've changed the PATH editing the .profile file and I've also changed the CC value [12:45] this seems a silly approach and reason to me, sorry. [12:45] jewels: right, so you shouldn't need to create symlinks [12:46] setting the PATH to have /opt/bin as priority should be enough [12:46] I just want to make practice with compiling and other interesting stuff which linux grant to do [12:46] nothing more ikonia :) [12:46] well, you're going the right way about breaking your box [12:46] and you're putting the latest version of gcc on your machine inlcluding core libraries for no reason [12:46] you can practice using the tools ubuntu build, package, test and support [12:47] or you can drop some crazy hunk of junk you've tried to build onto your machine then make a mess of settig it up for your enviornment [12:47] I know which one sounds better for sane compiling to me [12:49] ikonia, thank you for your suggestion you're right after all but I think that could be interesting to see how can multiple package could be compiled together in order to make a big and large program like the GCC compiler suite [12:49] gcc compiler is one package [12:49] yes one package, but it needs other libraries [12:49] so I don't know where this multi-pacakge stuff making the gcc compiler suite is you're talking about [12:50] yes, which if you don't know what you are doing - will cause a conflict on your system and break it [12:50] hence why I'm saying you are going to break your system if you continue with your current approach [12:52] Understood.. [12:52] so do you suggest to me to delete it and reinstall correctly gcc? [12:52] I'm not suggesting anything as I don't know what you've currently done to your machine messing around [12:54] How can I remove the gcc-4.7.2 that I have compiled just right now? I have done make and make install [12:55] now I just want to remove everything I do [13:21] holaaaaaa [15:04] hello ..i just installed xubuntu.. how can i remove the quick launcher ? (and can i open it again later?! ) cos i want to install another dock [15:05] right click on it -> panel -> select panel you want to remove and press the button [15:05] you can also unlock it and drag it elswhere on the screen [15:06] if i remove it can i put it again back later i i want? [15:06] *if i want [15:07] you need to add launchers again and edit it's settings [15:07] and how do i do that ? [15:08] add panel, drah launchers from menu, edit settings [15:08] oh..so its a panel ..no diference.. thank you [15:10] yup === Anona is now known as Transfuta === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep [18:07] Hi, I have a question about changing an icon in xubuntu: Shouldn't it be possible to change icons by right-clicking the file/folder choosing preferences and clicking the icon ? [18:07] it should be :) [18:08] hmm.. any ideas why i cannot click the icon then ? [18:08] wiben: no permission? :) [18:09] wiben: you cant right click on it?.. you dont get a menu? [18:09] yes [18:09] what icon? a launcher? or one in the file manager? [18:09] i can right click on it and go to preferences, but i cannot change the icon.. its a html file [18:10] i tried to use: sudo thunar <-- don't know if that would give me permission ? [18:10] wiben: what icon.. where is it located? is it an application launcher on the desktop? a location shorcut? [18:11] you would try gksudo thunar [18:11] its in my home folder ~/.local/share/links [18:13] even with gksudo i can't change icons [18:13] wiben: changing an icon in thunar is different though... i would still expect to be able to change it,, but you can search for that more appropriately [18:14] wiben: i see emblems.. i remember someone asking about how to have custom emblems and it not being implemented yet [18:14] I tried to google it but all I found where ways to change icon themes, I only need to change a specific icon [18:14] wiben: the way i think of it.. im using thunar for a reason.. its lighter-weight.. with that comes some "compromises" [18:16] Ok, I guess I can live with that for now.. I love that its light-weight one of the reasons I chose xubuntu on this old comp [18:17] i dont see an easy way to do it from nautilus rigt now though [18:18] ... I wanted to add a link to a specific webpage to "docky" and so i thought i could change the icon before adding it [18:19] im sure you can... it'll just be a mater of digging around and finding the right place to change it [18:19] hola [18:19] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23776/how-to-change-a-file-type-icon-in-xfce-thunar for example wiben [18:20] @holstein thnx, I will try that.. [18:26] hellcan any one help me [18:26] !ask [18:26] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [18:27] I want to know how to uninstall ubuntu [18:28] HackinBl1ck: you can download the iso images for ubuntu and burn them to a CD or use a USB stick [18:28] and install what instead? [18:28] windows [18:28] OH.. i see... i thought you said install.. just get a windwos install disk instead [18:28] you just put the Windows CD/DVD in, and install [18:29] that is, you overwrite Ubuntu with Windows [18:29] Alright [18:29] HackinBl1ck: you can ask in a windows channel for more information about how the process works per the windows version you are using [18:29] Is there a easy way to dual boot though? with ubuntu installed first [18:29] ? [18:30] ? [18:30] HackinBl1ck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub [18:33] alright i will look at that [18:36] Whats better ubuntu or kubuntu? [18:37] HackinBl1ck: It completely depends on your own preferences [18:37] I have ubuntu right now. [18:38] may try kubuntu [18:38] looking at site right now [18:48] Xubuntu is the best. [18:49] !best | Marzata [18:49] Marzata: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Polls are highly discouraged to be taken on this channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, please ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [18:49] Don't waste your time with Apple and Windows dream interfaces. [19:54] Marzata: lol [21:56] hullo [21:57] I'm trying to install xubuntu 12.04 on a fujitsu/siemens amilo laptop [21:58] nmizar: and how is that going for you? [21:58] but I'm experiencing a bunch of problems [21:58] first, I dowwnloaded an iso image [21:59] 'cos I tried unetbooting to no reasonable effect (it didn't install xubuntu, actually) [22:00] then, I've tried to a) install by booting from the image burnt to a CD and b) trying xubuntu and selecting the install link [22:00] Downloaded, did you check the MD5 sum? What are you making the bootable flash from? (Windows, Linux) [22:00] Linux [22:00] old ubuntu Maverick already unsupported [22:01] I wanted to try xubuntu as it seems to be much more lightweight [22:01] but gives lots of way for setting up my old laptop as I wanted to [22:01] nmizar: it's best to boot from the CD to a live desktop before actualy trying the install [22:01] hi guys! [22:02] recon_lap, that's the first thing I did [22:02] nmizar: and did that work? [22:02] but, when trying to install, I find plenty of problems [22:03] for instance, dconf can't proceed because it has no permission to access /root/.cache [22:03] wanted to let You know that I am running Xubuntu 11.10 on a Lenovo U160. this one works perfectly here. but installing the 12.xx versions are failing massively. [22:04] then, I su myself, chown and allow it to enter [22:04] What about trying the alternate installer? [22:04] Mmmm [22:04] burning it to another CD? [22:05] now, I have reinstalled the 11.10 - faster HD. but in contrast to the system before, I don't receive the option for upgrading anymore. [22:05] nmizar: I'm wondering why you need to do anything? is it not formating you drive and loading up a default install? [22:05] I saw the alternate but I thought the Desktop would suit me [22:05] Or USB, if you can get that. [22:05] nope [22:05] Desktop should be working fine, yes. [22:05] I myself was trying to install from a usb-drive, btw. [22:05] it desn't look liek it's doing it [22:06] nmizar: anything odd about the laptop? is it super old or super new? [22:06] I changed my partition table to, actually, leaving it as it was: one big / ext4 partition and one swap partition [22:06] neither recon_lap [22:07] nmizar: Can you try "Check CD for defects" ? [22:07] Boot option on the CD. [22:07] it's one fujitsu/siemens amilo 12xx series dating 5 or 6 yrs, maybe more [22:08] check CD for defects. OK. Gonna try it out [22:09] nmizar: well I'd do the CD check like Unit193 suggested, then I would have a look at the HDD, maybe reset the partitions myself and let the CD do a install [22:09] Yep, gparted should be on the live CD. [22:09] yeah, I didn't check the CD but the rest I did [22:10] ok [22:10] Os_Maleus: you getting stuck too? [22:10] ah, let me tell you that, when installing, there is one option for changing the partition table [22:10] I've done that in a number of ways [22:11] Os_Maleus: Bios may not support booting from USB, and you can force an upgrade by opening a terminal and paste do-release-upgrade [22:11] from leaving it as it was to making a brand new partition table, for instance, one with /, home and swap [22:12] but to no avail [22:13] nmizar: well, I'd suggest just letting the install CD use all the hard-drive in a automatic install [22:13] yeah [22:13] good idea but, I am not given the option [22:13] well, I am wondering why I am receiving the error message "Failed to fetch cdrom://Xubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120817.3)/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages" when I am checking the updates. [22:14] the first, say, couple times, I had four options [22:14] Os_Maleus: Ah! That's pretty simple as you just have to disable that somewhere in software sources (or it is at the top of /etc/apt/sources.list if you feel good about editing that) [22:14] the booting from USB worked finally out. but with 11.10 only. [22:14] from leaving my ubuntu and adding xubuntu to customise my installation through making a fresh install [22:15] but I cannot reach that point anymore [22:15] :-( [22:16] nmizar: think you select "Install Ubuntu" then default setup [22:17] Os_Maleus: have you tried setting nomodeset? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation [22:17] you mean booting from the CD or from the live distro [22:17] nmizar: the CD, but not sure what you mean by live distro [22:18] ah, I'm sorry: starting the live xubuntu and selecting install [22:18] indeed, there it was. I was checking that file (of course, just by eyes) and (of course) didn't find the entry. [22:20] recon_lap: but this nomodest-thing is actually for a system, that is installed already. isn't it? [22:20] nmizar: should really be no difference. but something going wrong :) [22:21] yeah, I thought so [22:21] Os_Maleus: no, you can use it on the CD to test a live session without installing. I think :) [22:21] how can I check the CD? [22:21] should I burn another image? [22:22] nmizar: Have you checked you bios to make sure it booting from the CD first? [22:22] yes, thanks [22:22] I changed it to do it so [22:22] recon_lap: didn't check it until now, to be honest. thanks for the tipp! [22:23] nmizar: then boot the CD, you should see this menu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=804+Live+2+.png , you want to Check CD for defects [22:24] recon, I don't see that particular splash [22:24] unfortunately, I won't be able to show you one [22:24] nmizar: what ISO did you down load? [22:24] :-P [22:25] the non-64 bit, Intel 12.04 desktop one [22:25] do you want me to locate the actual link? [22:25] nmizar: you missing something very basic if thats not the splash screen you seeing, it's not booting a 12.04 desktop CD [22:26] recon_lap: Sure it is, Xubuntu uses MaybeUbiquity: http://s.techairlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Ubuntu-Install-Welcome.jpg hold shift on booting the CD. [22:26] I'll try to describe what I see without rebooting again [22:26] yes [22:26] opps my bad :-[ [22:26] it starts with a splash in blue with xubuntu written on it [22:27] nmizar: Hold shift, esc, or enter. [22:27] he he [22:27] ? [22:27] when booting, unit? [22:28] lol, keep forgetting I'm XUbuntu now :) [22:28] nmizar: just save a date in the session, and consider the user not logged in when that date is too far in past [22:28] nmizar: sorry [22:28] nmizar: wrong channel [22:28] ha ha, don't worry Sheep :-) [22:29] nmizar: When you boot, you will see a small icon at the bottom and that's it, at that time you should hit shift (IIRC). [22:30] recon, when passing that step, it asks me for the language, then the time zone, keyboard setup and then it gets to the partition stuff, I guess [22:30] sorry Unit, ok [22:30] I'll try [22:31] when clicking esc, shift or enter, what will it be supposed to happen :-P? [22:31] 'cos I hadn't noticed the icon :-S [22:31] was not paying attention, actually [22:32] nmizar: just press shift as soon as the BIOS post has finished [22:32] ok [22:32] nmizar: keep tapping it :) [22:32] and will that let me check the CD? [22:32] he he he [22:32] (click-click)³ [22:33] sorry agin, will tapping that that let me check the CD? [22:33] sorry agin, will tapping that will let me check the CD? [22:33] he he [22:33] nmizar: it should bring up the full boot menu with all the options [22:34] ok [22:34] any suggestion at that point? [22:34] test CD :) I'm looking for a picture of the menu, they hard to find [22:35] yeah [22:36] http://blog.gambliser.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/xubuntu-upgrade-1_thumb.jpg Can tell by the logo how new it is. :P [22:36] perfect, thanks [22:37] bookmarks pictures for future reference :) [22:38] he he [22:39] ok, thanks a lot to you all, guys. I'm going to leave you by now and to give it go to the intall once again. [22:39] Os_Maleus: can you let me know if nomodeset fixes your issue [22:39] It's been a pleasure and you've been quite helpful [22:39] good bye [22:39] At least one of us has, good luck! [22:42] well, now, I have installed the older version. hoped/-ing for a possibility to upgrade. but somehow, the update-manager doesn't want to offer that. guess, I have to play a bit around with the settings of the package manager. [22:43] recon_lap: -î [22:47] Os_Maleus: this might help http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/ [22:47] Os_Maleus: Did you also remove the CD source? [22:48] thanks, recon_lap! yep, I did, Unit193. that helped to eliminate the trouble with the error messages. thanks! [22:52] Just installed Xubuntu 12.10 on a usb stick and it boots up to a black screen on my Dell latitude. Same thing with Ubuntu 12.10 beta 2. [22:53] spaceneedle: you ,might want to try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation , I'd like to know if it works as well [22:54] spaceneedle: opps, not sure about 12.10 , I though they would have fixed it [22:55] Had the same problem with Bodhi too. [22:56] spaceneedle: Sounds like the computer is a bit odd, would recommend trying some of the boot options and asking in #ubuntu+1 [22:56] spaceneedle: well, you could try monodeset boot option, that bug does give you a blank screen on certain hardware [22:58] I'll give it a try and report back.