[00:07] <BarkingFish> morning guys :)  Do we have any fix on a release date yet for QQ to go live to the public please?
[00:10] <Daekdroom> !schedule | BarkingFish
[00:11] <silverarrow> hi
[00:11] <BarkingFish> excellent, thank you kindly :)
[00:11] <silverarrow> are you sure you aren't a dog?
[00:11] <silverarrow> ;- )
[00:12] <BarkingFish> no, I'm not :)
[00:12] <BarkingFish> I might occasionally be dog tired, but I don't bark irl - I just bite :D
[00:12] <silverarrow> where is diskutility in quantal?
[00:13] <silverarrow> gone?
[00:14] <Daekdroom> Not installed by default, I suppose.
[00:14] <silverarrow> oh, disks
[00:14] <silverarrow> renamed
[00:16] <silverarrow> install is alway scary
[00:17] <silverarrow> are you familiar with "install alongt side other verson of ubuntu"
[00:34] <c_smith_> man, I really gotta say 12.10 is shaping up nicely.
[00:34] <bjsnider> i guess it can't be found by searching for "palimpsest" in overview anymore
[00:36] <c_smith_> bjsnider, that's when one makes it a point to search everything local for now.
[00:36] <c_smith_> correct?
[00:36] <bjsnider> i dunno
[00:37] <c_smith_> might be a good idea until they implement the opt-out
[00:37] <c_smith_> and as I have read, it's gonna be opt-out rather than opt-in
[00:37] <c_smith_> no clue who made that ludicrous decision.
[00:46] <jbicha> bjsnider: that's because the binary is now called gnome-disks
[00:46] <bjsnider> yeah, i figgered
[00:47] <bjsnider> i guess it makes sense, since nobody seemed to know why the tool was called palimpsest
[00:54] <silverarrow> that is 6 hours until i have wired connection
[00:54] <silverarrow> !"#¤%&
[00:58] <silverarrow> maybe I can get the b43 stuff through puppy lucid
[00:58] <silverarrow> or not
[00:58] <silverarrow> it can retrieve from ubuntu repositories
[00:59] <silverarrow> or a usb thing
[00:59] <silverarrow> !!!!
[01:00] <bjsnider> silverarrow, having a broadcom problem are you?
[01:04] <BarkingFish> !find b43 precise
[01:05] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, those are the broadcom 43 files you might very well need, I don't know because I don't use broadcom - but at least one or more of those may be able to help you.
[01:05] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, those are the broadcom 43 files you might very well need, I don't know because I don't use broadcom - but at least one or more of those may be able to help you.
[01:05] <BarkingFish> i think you need to have a firmware file to use one or more of them :|
[01:06] <silverarrow> yes, luckily a usb wireless I have works,
[01:06] <bjsnider> jbicha, the maximize gesture doesn't work with gimp
[01:06] <silverarrow> odd, but lucky
[01:07] <silverarrow> it will not download
[01:08] <bjsnider> silverarrow, aren't you glad you bought broadcom stuff?
[01:08] <silverarrow> i am
[01:08] <silverarrow> or rather realtek perhaps
[01:08] <jbicha> bjsnider: I'm not responsible for gimp ;)
[01:08] <silverarrow> anyhow, it works
[01:09] <silverarrow> however, download is veeerry slow
[01:09] <silverarrow> like a week
[01:13] <bjsnider> jbicha, i thought you might have an idea why, so i could complain on a gimp ml somewhere
[03:50] <omac> It's interesting to note that vlc when opened up plays with a tinny sound for videos or mp3s.  Once I adjust the volume for a second or two it goes back to normal sound.
[03:50] <omac> Also to note I don't have this issue when playing with totem.
[05:22] <sindile> i have a thinkpad w530 - i have been trying to install nvidia drivers from this ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. running apt-get install nvidia-current i get the following error unmet dependencies - depednds xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable
[05:22] <sindile> any ideas on how to resolve this
[10:25] <gsedej_work> hi! I'm just trying ubuntu 12.10. I can't find logout button
[10:25] <gsedej_work> option
[10:25] <gsedej_work> I wish to test other DE, because unity works awfully bad in Eee (atom + gma500)
[10:26] <gsedej_work> in live seassion
[10:36] <varikonniemi> there is no other de in live cd :D
[10:36] <varikonniemi> kubuntu is other de
[10:36] <varikonniemi> xubuntu other
[10:36] <varikonniemi> etc
[10:37] <gsedej_work> live usb + persistance
[10:38] <gsedej_work> kde works quite good in "software" mode
[10:38] <varikonniemi> and iirc unity2d was removed with llvmpipe
[10:38] <varikonniemi> so is there any other de available but unity anymore?
[10:39] <gsedej_work> varikonniemi, you can install it using usb+persistance
[10:40] <varikonniemi> yeah a de might be possible
[10:40] <varikonniemi> i was thinking about my problems trying live persistence + nvidia binary blob, which is impossible
[10:41] <tsimpson> isn't the logout option in the top right? probably under a menu
 there are currently no applications which integrate with your (null) account
 I can't delete whatever was there
 hmm probably +1 question
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:07] <gsedej_work> varikonniemi, why impossible? it worked for me
[12:08] <varikonniemi> at the time i was told that since it is a kernel module that needs to be compiled it cannot be done
[12:08] <varikonniemi> what i managed though was a normal install to the usb drive, and then i got it working just as if booted from hd
[12:09] <silverarrow> hi
[12:09] <silverarrow> I have installed b43 package for quantal, and yet no wireless?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, sudo modprobe b43
[12:28] <silverarrow> nothing much happens
[12:28] <silverarrow> restart?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> try to connect
[12:29] <BluesKaj> if the module loads there's no output from modprobe
[12:30] <silverarrow> output?
[12:32] <silverarrow> I had the b43-fwcutter_015-14_powerpc.deb stored on a usb stick, and then installed
[12:33] <silverarrow> should it matter which way it is installed?
[12:47] <silverarrow> I give up
[12:47] <silverarrow> have to get wired connection
[16:15] <Seven_Six_Two> downloaded beta2 and put on usb. booted on laptop with nvidia. Output says "nouveau gpu lockup - switching to software fbcon...Failed to idle channel 2". I switched to a term and changed xorg.conf to nv, but that just locked my system.
[16:18] <Seven_Six_Two> I think I might have just achieved low graphics mode.
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Seven_Six_Two, install nvidia-current then reboot
[16:25] <yofel_> Seven_Six_Two: if I remember correctly nv doesn't exist anymore, try to boot with 'nomodeset' instead
[16:26] <BluesKaj> oops , thought nv was short for nouveau ... Seven_Six_Two  , ignore my post
[16:27] <yofel_> well, once the system does boot he should do that :)
[16:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I can't install it, because my 4gb usb key is apparently out of space
[16:27] <yofel_> ouch
[16:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I decided after a bit of kicking that I'd try in vmware
[16:27] <BluesKaj> yeah , but i might hang on nouveau as default
[16:28] <BluesKaj> it
[16:29] <Seven_Six_Two> I take it back. I'm going to try nomodeset first. Thanks yofel_
[16:30] <Seven_Six_Two> I replaced "quiet" with "nomodeset"
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> aaw. sorry. It flashed a few times like it really wanted to start. LGM, no mouse.
[16:32] <yofel_> :(
[16:32] <Seven_Six_Two> I run 12.04 normally, and it's an HP g60 laptop. Not obscure hardware
[16:32] <BluesKaj> can you get to grub , Seven_Six_Two
[16:33] <Seven_Six_Two> sure,
[16:34] <BluesKaj> try the recovery kernel , then in the dialog repair broken packages , then once finished , install nvidia-current
[16:35] <BluesKaj> and sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:36] <Seven_Six_Two> ok. I'm at grub. can you be more specific? I have :  /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- persistent
[16:37] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't know about any recovery kernels when using unetbootin
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Seven_Six_Two, I mean the grub menu, after the bios scrreen
[16:41] <Seven_Six_Two> I didn't install it on my harddrive, so it's not on my laptop's grub. I have to select "try without installing" from unetbootin menu, and there's no grub screen after that
[16:41] <Seven_Six_Two> as a side note, my desktop says that there's 3.1gb free on my usb key, so I don't know why it was complaining about being full when I tried to install nvidia-current
[16:44] <BluesKaj> wel, it would have good to know you were using live media instead of an actual install
[16:46] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm sorry you missed that part! I did mention it twice though...
[16:47] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm going to give vmware a go before I try the nightly
[17:02] <Seven_Six_Two> it booted without trouble in vmware, but I'd like to get it to work from usb. Is there a trick to being able to install software when you run from usb?
[17:04] <yofel_> well, you can use usb-creator to make a persistent stick, then your installed software will stay.
[17:05] <Seven_Six_Two> no wayland yet? I thought it was going to be this release?
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> yofel, I thought that's what I had done, but maybe I suppose I did it wrong. I'll try it again. Thanks
[17:17] <RiXtEr> Hello all, is there a way to upgrade to 12.10 using apt?
[17:24] <RiXtEr> Wow, just checked the link, someone RTFM me next time...
[17:24]  * RiXtEr facepalms.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> RiXtEr,  well , the command , sudo do-release-upgrade -d , will upgrade , but make sure you updated and upgraded in your present OS first which I assume is 12.04
[17:39] <BluesKaj> and for saftey's sake delete the ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:47] <Seven_Six_Two> wow. all of those problems simply because I didn
[17:47] <RiXtEr> BluesKaj, thanks!
[17:47] <Seven_Six_Two> didn't allot enough space on the usb key for persistence
[17:48] <BluesKaj> RiXtEr, np , have fun :)
[17:48] <RiXtEr> BluesKaj, will do :)
[17:49] <RiXtEr> BluesKaj, to my understanding everything is 'frozen' right now, so if I grab it now, as opposed to 2 weeks from now, it should be the same right?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> RiXtEr, not necessarily , ..the upgrades are frozen untill they are tested and approved atm ..that's my take on it
[17:53] <BluesKaj> RiXtEr, but mostly everything is in a stable state right now , but the unity/gnome experience may be different than KDE , which is what I use.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> RiXtEr, and if you're using ati pci graphics ..all bets are off
[18:10] <Seven_Six_Two> jockey-gtk is transitional. Is something replacing it for installing the nvidia drivers?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Seven_Six_Two, there's going to be a software properties tab option in  whatever the hardware drivers section is in unity/gnome
[18:24] <Seven_Six_Two> BluesKaj, thanks
[20:27] <FernandoMiguel> hi
[20:29] <BluesKaj> hey FernandoMiguel
[20:31] <FernandoMiguel> hey budy
[20:35] <OSreX> hi, does 12.10 include mono in the base install?
[20:36] <trism> OSreX: no
[20:36] <OSreX> thank you
[22:43] <dr_willis> Think i found a bug in Vsftp. :) after playign withit for the last hour. I can get anonymous users to login, but not my normal users.
[22:45] <dr_willis> seems PAM related. but thats about as far s all my trouble shooting skills go.
[22:45] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257003/
[23:01] <dr_willis> weird.. found a fix... :) just hitting the forums..  hope this will help anyone else with issues.
[23:01] <dr_willis> in /etc/vsftpd.conf:
[23:01] <dr_willis> pam_service_name=vsftpd -> pam_service_name=ftp
[23:01] <dr_willis> now it works. :)
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