[00:07] morning guys :) Do we have any fix on a release date yet for QQ to go live to the public please? [00:10] !schedule | BarkingFish [00:10] BarkingFish: A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule [00:11] hi [00:11] excellent, thank you kindly :) [00:11] are you sure you aren't a dog? [00:11] ;- ) [00:12] no, I'm not :) [00:12] I might occasionally be dog tired, but I don't bark irl - I just bite :D [00:12] where is diskutility in quantal? [00:13] gone? [00:14] Not installed by default, I suppose. [00:14] oh, disks [00:14] renamed [00:16] install is alway scary [00:17] are you familiar with "install alongt side other verson of ubuntu" [00:34] man, I really gotta say 12.10 is shaping up nicely. [00:34] i guess it can't be found by searching for "palimpsest" in overview anymore [00:36] bjsnider, that's when one makes it a point to search everything local for now. [00:36] correct? [00:36] i dunno [00:37] might be a good idea until they implement the opt-out [00:37] and as I have read, it's gonna be opt-out rather than opt-in [00:37] no clue who made that ludicrous decision. [00:46] bjsnider: that's because the binary is now called gnome-disks [00:46] yeah, i figgered [00:47] i guess it makes sense, since nobody seemed to know why the tool was called palimpsest [00:54] that is 6 hours until i have wired connection [00:54] !"#¤%& [00:58] maybe I can get the b43 stuff through puppy lucid [00:58] or not [00:58] it can retrieve from ubuntu repositories [00:59] or a usb thing [00:59] !!!! [01:00] silverarrow, having a broadcom problem are you? === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow [01:04] !find b43 precise [01:04] Found: b43-fwcutter, libghc-configfile-dev, libghc-configfile-prof, firmware-b43-installer, firmware-b43-lpphy-installer [01:05] silverarrow, those are the broadcom 43 files you might very well need, I don't know because I don't use broadcom - but at least one or more of those may be able to help you. [01:05] silverarrow, those are the broadcom 43 files you might very well need, I don't know because I don't use broadcom - but at least one or more of those may be able to help you. [01:05] i think you need to have a firmware file to use one or more of them :| [01:06] yes, luckily a usb wireless I have works, [01:06] jbicha, the maximize gesture doesn't work with gimp [01:06] odd, but lucky [01:07] it will not download [01:08] silverarrow, aren't you glad you bought broadcom stuff? [01:08] i am [01:08] or rather realtek perhaps [01:08] bjsnider: I'm not responsible for gimp ;) [01:08] anyhow, it works [01:09] however, download is veeerry slow [01:09] like a week [01:13] jbicha, i thought you might have an idea why, so i could complain on a gimp ml somewhere [03:50] It's interesting to note that vlc when opened up plays with a tinny sound for videos or mp3s. Once I adjust the volume for a second or two it goes back to normal sound. [03:50] Also to note I don't have this issue when playing with totem. [05:22] i have a thinkpad w530 - i have been trying to install nvidia drivers from this ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. running apt-get install nvidia-current i get the following error unmet dependencies - depednds xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable [05:22] any ideas on how to resolve this === md_5|ext-away is now known as md_5 === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw [10:25] hi! I'm just trying ubuntu 12.10. I can't find logout button [10:25] option [10:25] I wish to test other DE, because unity works awfully bad in Eee (atom + gma500) [10:26] in live seassion [10:36] there is no other de in live cd :D [10:36] kubuntu is other de [10:36] xubuntu other [10:36] etc [10:37] live usb + persistance [10:38] kde works quite good in "software" mode [10:38] and iirc unity2d was removed with llvmpipe [10:38] so is there any other de available but unity anymore? [10:39] varikonniemi, you can install it using usb+persistance [10:40] yeah a de might be possible [10:40] i was thinking about my problems trying live persistence + nvidia binary blob, which is impossible [10:41] isn't the logout option in the top right? probably under a menu [10:53] there are currently no applications which integrate with your (null) account [10:53] I can't delete whatever was there [10:53] hmm probably +1 question === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow [12:06] Hey all [12:07] varikonniemi, why impossible? it worked for me [12:08] at the time i was told that since it is a kernel module that needs to be compiled it cannot be done [12:08] what i managed though was a normal install to the usb drive, and then i got it working just as if booted from hd [12:09] hi [12:09] I have installed b43 package for quantal, and yet no wireless? [12:21] silverarrow, sudo modprobe b43 [12:28] nothing much happens [12:28] restart? [12:29] try to connect [12:29] if the module loads there's no output from modprobe [12:30] output? [12:32] I had the b43-fwcutter_015-14_powerpc.deb stored on a usb stick, and then installed [12:33] should it matter which way it is installed? [12:47] I give up [12:47] have to get wired connection [16:15] downloaded beta2 and put on usb. booted on laptop with nvidia. Output says "nouveau gpu lockup - switching to software fbcon...Failed to idle channel 2". I switched to a term and changed xorg.conf to nv, but that just locked my system. [16:18] I think I might have just achieved low graphics mode. [16:24] Seven_Six_Two, install nvidia-current then reboot [16:25] Seven_Six_Two: if I remember correctly nv doesn't exist anymore, try to boot with 'nomodeset' instead [16:26] oops , thought nv was short for nouveau ... Seven_Six_Two , ignore my post [16:27] well, once the system does boot he should do that :) [16:27] I can't install it, because my 4gb usb key is apparently out of space [16:27] ouch [16:27] I decided after a bit of kicking that I'd try in vmware [16:27] yeah , but i might hang on nouveau as default [16:28] it [16:29] I take it back. I'm going to try nomodeset first. Thanks yofel_ [16:30] I replaced "quiet" with "nomodeset" [16:31] aaw. sorry. It flashed a few times like it really wanted to start. LGM, no mouse. [16:32] :( [16:32] I run 12.04 normally, and it's an HP g60 laptop. Not obscure hardware [16:32] can you get to grub , Seven_Six_Two [16:33] sure, [16:34] try the recovery kernel , then in the dialog repair broken packages , then once finished , install nvidia-current [16:35] and sudo nvidia-xconfig === emma is now known as em [16:36] ok. I'm at grub. can you be more specific? I have : /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- persistent [16:37] I don't know about any recovery kernels when using unetbootin [16:39] Seven_Six_Two, I mean the grub menu, after the bios scrreen [16:41] I didn't install it on my harddrive, so it's not on my laptop's grub. I have to select "try without installing" from unetbootin menu, and there's no grub screen after that [16:41] as a side note, my desktop says that there's 3.1gb free on my usb key, so I don't know why it was complaining about being full when I tried to install nvidia-current [16:44] wel, it would have good to know you were using live media instead of an actual install [16:46] I'm sorry you missed that part! I did mention it twice though... [16:47] I'm going to give vmware a go before I try the nightly === jimerickson is now known as Guest56016 [17:02] it booted without trouble in vmware, but I'd like to get it to work from usb. Is there a trick to being able to install software when you run from usb? [17:04] well, you can use usb-creator to make a persistent stick, then your installed software will stay. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:05] no wayland yet? I thought it was going to be this release? [17:09] yofel, I thought that's what I had done, but maybe I suppose I did it wrong. I'll try it again. Thanks [17:17] Hello all, is there a way to upgrade to 12.10 using apt? [17:24] Wow, just checked the link, someone RTFM me next time... [17:24] * RiXtEr facepalms. [17:38] RiXtEr, well , the command , sudo do-release-upgrade -d , will upgrade , but make sure you updated and upgraded in your present OS first which I assume is 12.04 [17:39] and for saftey's sake delete the ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d [17:47] wow. all of those problems simply because I didn [17:47] BluesKaj, thanks! [17:47] didn't allot enough space on the usb key for persistence [17:48] RiXtEr, np , have fun :) [17:48] BluesKaj, will do :) [17:49] BluesKaj, to my understanding everything is 'frozen' right now, so if I grab it now, as opposed to 2 weeks from now, it should be the same right? [17:50] RiXtEr, not necessarily , ..the upgrades are frozen untill they are tested and approved atm ..that's my take on it [17:53] RiXtEr, but mostly everything is in a stable state right now , but the unity/gnome experience may be different than KDE , which is what I use. [17:55] RiXtEr, and if you're using ati pci graphics ..all bets are off [18:10] jockey-gtk is transitional. Is something replacing it for installing the nvidia drivers? === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow [18:19] Seven_Six_Two, there's going to be a software properties tab option in whatever the hardware drivers section is in unity/gnome [18:24] BluesKaj, thanks === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert [20:27] hi [20:29] hey FernandoMiguel [20:31] hey budy [20:35] hi, does 12.10 include mono in the base install? [20:36] OSreX: no [20:36] thank you [22:43] Think i found a bug in Vsftp. :) after playign withit for the last hour. I can get anonymous users to login, but not my normal users. [22:45] seems PAM related. but thats about as far s all my trouble shooting skills go. [22:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257003/ [23:01] weird.. found a fix... :) just hitting the forums.. hope this will help anyone else with issues. [23:01] in /etc/vsftpd.conf: [23:01] pam_service_name=vsftpd -> pam_service_name=ftp [23:01] now it works. :) [23:49] !amazon