| CarstenG | Hi at all | 14:48 |
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| hannie | hey CarstenG | 14:48 |
| CarstenG | Hi hannie | 14:48 |
| hannie | everything ok with the screenshots? | 14:49 |
| hannie | CarstenG, do you happen to know what the link to crocodoc (Quantal) is? | 14:50 |
| hannie | I asked Kevin, but he may not be awake yet | 14:50 |
| CarstenG | no, sorry | 14:50 |
| hannie | np | 14:51 |
| hannie | I'll get an answer to my email shortly | 14:51 |
| CarstenG | What is crocodoc? | 14:51 |
| hannie | That is a shared document where everyone can add comment to the draft pdf of Quantal manual | 14:51 |
| hannie | It is meant so everyone can proofread and add comment where corrections are necessary | 14:52 |
| CarstenG | ah | 14:52 |
| CarstenG | ok | 14:52 |
| CarstenG | I think there was not yet any release for this draft, or? | 14:53 |
| hannie | very useful! I asked Kevin to send the link to the mailing list once more (I lost the previous email) | 14:53 |
| hannie | We'll see if Kevin has already put it on crocodoc | 14:54 |
| hannie | Although not everone has finished his editing work, we should have a reasonable draft by now | 14:55 |
| CarstenG | Yes, sure. We have a little delay with our draft releases. :-) | 14:56 |
| CarstenG | I just pushed the last screenshot. | 14:56 |
| hannie | good to hear. You have done a great job! | 14:56 |
| hannie | I am just finishing the Dutch translation of Precise version, 147 strings to go | 14:57 |
| CarstenG | Thanks. | 14:58 |
| CarstenG | Same to you for the translation | 14:58 |
| hannie | ;) | 14:58 |
| CarstenG | dutch will be the third finished version | 14:59 |
| hannie | of Precise? I think not | 14:59 |
| hannie | ah, yes 3rd | 14:59 |
| CarstenG | but I see 229 | 14:59 |
| CarstenG | left strings... | 14:59 |
| CarstenG | or? | 15:00 |
| hannie | I am working in Precise, not Precise-e2 because of this fuzzies problem | 15:00 |
| hannie | Later I will try and merge the 2 | 15:00 |
| CarstenG | ah, ok. Now is see | 15:00 |
| hannie | If it does not work well, I will publish Precise, not Precise-et. What's the difference? | 15:01 |
| CarstenG | well, some bug fixes | 15:01 |
| hannie | I refuse to do more copying and pasting or translating all over again :( | 15:01 |
| CarstenG | missing chapter{advanced topics} for example in precise... | 15:01 |
| hannie | ah, yes that was one of my own catches. I have to change that for sure | 15:02 |
| hannie | thanks for reminding me :) | 15:03 |
| CarstenG | you are welcome :-) | 15:03 |
| CarstenG | Do you have new info about the fuzzies problem in LP? | 15:04 |
| hannie | I gave up. --previous did not work and I do not get much support on LP (lack of manpower) | 15:04 |
| hannie | I understand they have so many other urgent matters to handle... | 15:05 |
| CarstenG | ok | 15:07 |
| hannie | The merging of msgid and msgstr is rather complicated in Launchpad, and I do not want to mess up things there | 15:07 |
| CarstenG | it's bad that you don't get much support there | 15:07 |
| hannie | it's sad, but as I said before, we are all volunteers with limited time on our hands | 15:08 |
| CarstenG | But if I remember correctly, you wanted to merge old translations to new po files based on the new pot file... | 15:08 |
| hannie | That is why we, Ubuntu Dutch Translators have decided to only translate the LTS versions of the manual | 15:09 |
| hannie | correct, but old translations are not transferred if there is only a slight difference in the msgid | 15:10 |
| hannie | Lokalize does this very well. I should contact the developers of Lokalize | 15:10 |
| hannie | Difference: Lokalize = offline, Launchpad=online | 15:11 |
| CarstenG | yes, this we could use, or? generate new po files offline and upload them to LP | 15:12 |
| CarstenG | then LP has "only" to recognize the fuzzies as suggestions. | 15:12 |
| hannie | I did merge Lucid (100% translated) with Precise | 15:12 |
| hannie | but LP throws the fuzzies away | 15:13 |
| hannie | when I upload the merged file to LP | 15:13 |
| CarstenG | BTW, do you mean this crocodoc? http://personal.crocodoc.com/HbPBlKU | 15:13 |
| CarstenG | its the precise version... | 15:14 |
| hannie | So now I have to copy the fuzzies from Lokalize to LP manually | 15:14 |
| hannie | If that is the Precise version, then it is not what I wanted | 15:14 |
| CarstenG | ah, that's the problem, I see. | 15:14 |
| hannie | Perhaps Kevin has not yet published the Quantal version after all | 15:16 |
| CarstenG | Yes, the other way is the same problem with LP. If you export the po files you don't get the suggestions. They are lost completely. AS fuzzies would be better.. | 15:16 |
| hannie | right, complicated as I said :( | 15:17 |
| CarstenG | Do you have a bug report on LP for this fuzzies problem? | 15:17 |
| hannie | Well, sort of. Low priority for the last 2 years | 15:17 |
| CarstenG | So we could post the link on the list to increase the heat a little bit. :-) | 15:17 |
| hannie | this could be a solution, but first I should start another bug report explaining exactly what I want | 15:19 |
| hannie | The one I refer to is from David Planella (long time ago, and not exactly the same) | 15:19 |
| CarstenG | ah ok | 15:20 |
| hannie | But it is a good idea, which I will keep in mind | 15:20 |
| CarstenG | Yes | 15:20 |
| CarstenG | If there is no bug report, then nobody will fix it. :) | 15:20 |
| hannie | true, but I do not have much confidence that it can or will be fixed soon after I report it | 15:21 |
| hannie | Danilo Segan is a good guy, but het has lots of other priorities | 15:21 |
| hannie | *he | 15:22 |
| hannie | But thanks for helping me with this | 15:22 |
| CarstenG | Who is he? | 15:23 |
| hannie | He is a big shot at Launchpad | 15:23 |
| hannie | daniloS | 15:23 |
| hannie | btw, I have sent an email this morning to editors who have not finished their section | 15:24 |
| hannie | hopefully we get some response before the end of this week | 15:25 |
| CarstenG | Yes, end of this week we want to release the public draft | 15:27 |
| hannie | oki, back to work then ;) | 15:27 |
| CarstenG | maybe this is the time for crocodoc? | 15:27 |
| hannie | yes, it can be put on crocodoc | 15:28 |
| hannie | I have already mailed Kevin about this this morning | 15:28 |
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