=== sivatharman_ is now known as psivaa === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|otp === mmrazik|otp is now known as mmrazik === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === smartboyhw is now known as nohaggis === nohaggis is now known as smartboyhw === sivatharman_ is now known as psivaa [15:58] I will chair the meeting this time! [15:59] \o/ [15:59] * rbasak is safe for another week [15:59] o/ [15:59] o/ [15:59] :) [16:00] sorry for being absent last weeks [16:00] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:00] Meeting started Tue Oct 2 16:00:07 2012 UTC. The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 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[16:00] no [16:00] but keep going [16:00] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:00] * jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports [16:01] Ursinha, golly -is that still on the list.... [16:01] jamespage, hehe... this one involves me, right? [16:01] yep [16:01] and as we are sooo bad at communicating with each other... [16:01] [action] jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports [16:01] ACTION: jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports [16:01] it's mine too now :) [16:02] we can catch up tomorrow, will try to find a spot for us to talk [16:02] #topic Quantal Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Quantal Development [16:02] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule [16:02] #subtopic Release Bugs [16:03] I don't think this works? [16:03] #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:03] so, let's see [16:04] Ursinha: you won't get a reply for link, or for subtopic [16:04] that's different [16:04] thanks JoseeAntonioR [16:04] I'm looking at the bugs [16:05] so, there is bug 1017847 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1017847 in qemu-linaro (Ubuntu) "qemu segfaults when creating an armhf container on an amd64 host" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017847 [16:06] are we working on it for this cycle? it has the rls-q-incoming tag [16:06] serge isn't here [16:06] sure i am [16:06] last i tried i couldn't reproduce due to other failures - i should try again... [16:06] ah! [16:06] :) [16:07] hallyn, if we're not fixing, we might want to remove the tag or add another one to say we're not fixing this cycle [16:07] if is a valid issue, of course === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|otp [16:07] the issue definately was valid at one point [16:08] right.. [16:09] (added to my list) [16:09] we have two critical bugs, one is fix committed by smoser [16:09] other is critical, SpamapS set it to critical [16:09] bug 1047520 [16:09] Launchpad bug 1047520 in php5 (Ubuntu Quantal) "NEWS and release notes need updating" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047520 [16:09] SpamapS, are you fixing that? [16:10] what is the one that is fix-committed by me ? [16:10] bug 1049177 [16:10] Launchpad bug 1049177 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Precise) "isc-dhcp-server apparmor profile should have include ".d" " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049177 [16:11] the quantal task [16:11] for maas [16:11] roaksoax, should that be fix-released in maas ? [16:12] ie, do we have a maas package that uses its own dhcp server? [16:12] Ursinha: yes I'll take a look at that [16:12] smoser: i think we do, i haven't looked at the latest changes made to that package [16:12] (maas-dhcp( [16:12] thanks Sp4rKy [16:12] oops [16:12] SpamapS, even [16:13] :) [16:13] (sorry Sp4rKy) [16:13] Ursinha, well, either way, its under control [16:13] (it is fixed in daily ppa) [16:13] cool [16:13] do you have any issues you want to bring into attention? [16:14] bug 1047520 is actually already Fix Released [16:14] Launchpad bug 1047520 in php5 (Ubuntu Quantal) "NEWS and release notes need updating" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047520 [16:14] so, woot :) [16:15] cool :) [16:15] I found another critical bug: bug 1044632 [16:15] Launchpad bug 1044632 in juju (Ubuntu Quantal) "Modify format 2 so that it supports raw strings" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044632 [16:16] OT: /me chimes in that he is only partially here atm. [16:16] Ursinha, that's part of the 0.5.2 release of juju [16:16] jimbaker, I ask because it's targeted to the release, only wanted to know if that bug is going to make it or if it's going to be sru'd later [16:17] SpamapS is currently working on a micro release that will be in a sru [16:17] ah, right [16:17] actually bad phrased - 0.5.2 is that micro release, then to included in an upcoming sru [16:18] so we might want to target that to quantal-updates,right? [16:18] SpamapS: any news on using ubuntu-cloud lxc template for local provider ? [16:19] Ursinha, that's a sru for precise. it should be part of the final for quantal [16:19] jimbaker, right, thanks for the info [16:19] I'll talk to people about bugs outside the meeting, otherwise this will take forever [16:19] will move on to blueprints [16:19] #subtopic Blueprints [16:20] #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html [16:20] the link that Daviey hates [16:21] that link is indeed not nice if you want to be objective :/ [16:22] Daviey: yes, branch is proposed and in review today actually [16:22] jimbaker: format 2 does not exist in 0.5.x [16:22] jimbaker: that bug is only relevant in 0.6 [16:23] Ursinha: we don't need to target that at quantal-updates. I have a final drop of Juju code planned for later this week. [16:23] SpamapS, awesome then [16:23] * SpamapS apologizes for lagging :-P [16:23] :) [16:24] that link is somehow impossible to follow up, the blueprints one, so please remember to update yours if haven't already [16:24] I'll move on [16:24] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:25] * CFP deadlines [16:25] ** SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp [16:26] any other events? [16:27] I'll take that as a no :) [16:27] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:27] hi [16:27] hi hggdh, any updates for us? [16:28] just a question from me -- the iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO -- it seems you want us to run it [16:28] we need to have the details on how to do it, can you please pass them over? [16:29] and, additionally, I found an easy way to have the ISO dns-server tests to actually execute, I will be proposing a merge soon for USIT [16:29] .. [16:29] who asked you that, hggdh? [16:29] Ursinha: nobody asked us that, but then the server team did not run them on the Beta 2 tests [16:30] ah, oops [16:30] Daviey, who could provide the info to hggdh to run these tests? [16:31] hggdh, I can pass you info on the iscsi tests [16:31] oh, an additional point on MAAS [16:32] [action] jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO [16:32] ACTION: jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO [16:32] it now seems to support virsh, but there is no docs on how to fill in the fields on the "Add Node" screen [16:32] and the "Doc" button on the page does not even talk about virsh... [16:34] roaksoax or smoser, ^^ === emma is now known as em [16:35] i think we would need to check that with iupstream I've only worked with IPMI [16:35] but should be pretty straight forward [16:36] i've not tested current maas with virsh [16:36] but it is on the list of things i'd like to know how to do [16:37] Ursinha: hggdh should grab me out of meeting :) [16:38] cool :) [16:38] is that enough information for you, hggdh? [16:38] yes it is :-) [16:38] great :) [16:39] moving on, then [16:39] * hggdh prepares the net to grab Daviey [16:39] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:39] hello smb [16:39] I don't have much to report right now... I hope I am finally homing in on bug 1021471. Just compiling a new test kernel for that right now. Should be on people by the time this meeting ends... [16:39] Launchpad bug 1021471 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "clone() hang when creating new network namespace (dmesg show unregister_netdevice: waiting for lo to become free. Usage count = 2)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021471 [16:39] .. [16:39] smb: thanks for fighting to get that going. Its quite important for juju. :) [16:39] and really for LXC users [16:40] +1 [16:40] great, thanks smb [16:40] any questions for smb? [16:41] okay, moving on [16:41] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:41] Quantal on ARM is looking good. MAAS on ARM is almost done too - all the critical pieces are written now, appear to be working and are in various stages in the pipeline for landing in the next week. [16:41] Any questions for me? [16:42] maybe not :) [16:42] thanks rbasak [16:42] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:42] discuss! [16:43] you are making me sad today, people [16:43] :) [16:43] gee thanks [16:43] lol [16:43] no one is into discussing today :) [16:43] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:43] sooo [16:44] Ursinha: thanks!! [16:44] oh damn I thought that was EOM [16:44] Next meeting will take place Oct 9th, same bat-channel [16:44] who's next in the line [16:45] if that is a line, so jimbaker is our next chair [16:45] jimbaker, is that ok for you? [16:45] that should do :P [16:45] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:45] Meeting ended Tue Oct 2 16:45:40 2012 UTC. [16:45] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-16.00.moin.txt [16:45] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-16.00.html [16:45] thanks people [16:45] FYI, jim did last week, so its from the other end [16:46] Ursinha: anyway, ^5 well done, thanks again [16:46] so next week is rbasak :) [16:47] Ursinha: not jimbaker first? [16:47] * rbasak doesn't mind [16:47] But knowing in advance is helpful [16:47] rbasak, SpamapS said he did it last week, so I have to fix that queue :/ [16:49] Ursinha, rbasak, cool, yes, i chaired last week, so someone else is next :) [16:49] ah yes [16:49] OK, so me next week it is [16:49] the more people who pile in front of me the better :) === mmrazik|otp is now known as mmrazik [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] Meeting started Tue Oct 2 17:00:07 2012 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) [17:00] Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:01] Nothing new to report this week. [17:01] * smb runs in [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:01] [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10.html [17:01] || apw || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item || [17:01] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 2 work items || [17:01] || || hardware-q-kernel-misc || 1 work item || [17:01] || ogasawara || hardware-q-kernel-misc || 2 work item || [17:01] || || hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items || [17:01] || || desktop-q-xorg-lts-updates || 1 work item || [17:01] apw and I will review and close our remaining work items as we approach [17:01] final release. [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) [17:02] Last week we uploaded the 3.5.0-16.[24,25] kernels. With Quantal kernel [17:02] freeze approaching in 2 days, we will upload one final kernel before [17:02] freeze by EOD tomorrow, Wed Oct 3. Following kernel freeze all patches [17:02] are subject to the SRU policy and only critical bug fixes will warrent [17:02] an upload. Non critical bug fixes and changes will be targetted to the [17:02] first Quantal SRU kernel. [17:02] As usual, all kernels will also get uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] [17:02] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04. We welcome [17:02] anyone to please install, test, and let us know your feedback. [17:02] [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport [17:02] Important upcoming dates: [17:02] * Thurs Oct 4 - Kernel Freeze (2 days) [17:02] * Thurs Oct 9 - Final Freeze (~1 week) [17:02] * Thurs Oct 18 - 12.10 Final (~2 weeks) [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (sconklin) [17:02] == 2012-10-02 (weekly) == [17:02] Currently we have 41 CVEs on our radar, with no CVEs added or retired this week. [17:02] See the CVE matrix for the current list: [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html [17:02] Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week: [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:02] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) [17:03] Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (October 02): [17:03] * Hardy - In Testing; 1 CVEs; (1 commits) [17:03] * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (12 commits) [17:03] * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (54 commits) [17:03] * Precise - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (234 commits) [17:03] Current opened tracking bugs details: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html [17:03] For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html [17:03] Future stable cadence cycles: [17:03] * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:03] o/ [17:04] dhillon-v10, go ahead === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:04] hi all, okay so recently at KS there was a lot of discussion about module signing and I've been working on an approach i'd like to present and maybe get some feedback? [17:05] dhillon-v10, how is your approach different then david howell's ? [17:05] the idea is a hybrid between what chrome os does (I saw some of Kees's work) and what David Howell posted [17:05] rtg: just getting to t hat [17:05] *that [17:05] so specifically, I'm referring to patch 19 that in his patchset, that allows signatures to be added in the build process [17:06] dhillon-v10, so, given the complexity of module signing you'd likely be better off posting your ideas on teh kteam mailing list [17:06] rtg: do you think it's better to post there? alright then in that case i suppose i'm done here [17:07] dhillon-v10, we _are_ considering module signing, but just haven't fully thought it all through [17:07] Yes, that also preserves the discussion and gives people in different time zones an ability to review it [17:07] .. [17:08] Any other open discussion or questions? [17:08] rtg: right, the idea here is not to include all of David's signing stuff because it's very complicated, and I think I may have a simpler approach similar to how in the UEFI stuff, we are getting signed bootloaders IIRC [17:08] .. [17:09] Thanks everyone [17:09] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:09] Meeting ended Tue Oct 2 17:09:02 2012 UTC. [17:09] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-17.00.moin.txt [17:09] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-17.00.html [17:09] thanks jsalisbury === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === Ursinha is now known as Jorjao === Jorjao is now known as Ursinha