| snap-l | brousc: har har | 00:32 |
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| snap-l | God, I love this band: http://www.metalinjection.net/tv/view/10039/gojira-explosia-video | 01:07 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 12:54 |
| jjesse | morning snap-l | 12:55 |
| snap-l | How goes? | 12:56 |
| jjesse | good been on the road for work for the last 2 weeks so a bit behind | 12:56 |
| jjesse | trying to figure out what this new month will bring | 12:57 |
| snap-l | Cool | 13:04 |
| brousch | Yes, this month will be cooler than last month due to fall coming on | 13:08 |
| snap-l | brousch: Literalist. | 13:09 |
| jrwren | i'm slowly coming around to python. | 13:10 |
| brousch | Everyone does | 13:10 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It's what all the cool kids are smoking these days. | 13:10 |
| brousch | Join us | 13:10 |
| brousch | Allow me to show you my massive python | 13:11 |
| brousch | script | 13:11 |
| jrwren | mmm... that makes me want to name something grass, just for those smoking jokes. | 13:11 |
| snap-l | PEP420 | 13:11 |
| snap-l | http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0420/ | 13:11 |
| snap-l | high-Python | 13:12 |
| jrwren | huh? | 13:12 |
| jrwren | "package" refers to Python packages as defined by Python's import statement. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | not what you were thinking | 13:12 |
| brousch | snap-l: I am disappointed that's not a real joke PEP | 13:12 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Actually, I was checking to see if there was a 420 | 13:12 |
| snap-l | and there is, and it's boring | 13:12 |
| jrwren | oh! 420, right. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | i forgot that 420 means something. | 13:13 |
| brousch | Marijuana can affect your long term memory | 13:13 |
| snap-l | And thus exhausts my knowledge | 13:13 |
| snap-l | brousch: So can hanging out in IRC | 13:13 |
| brousch | I disbelieve. I've been using IRC for a month or two and I feel fine | 13:14 |
| snap-l | I've been using it for... OH GOD, I CAN'T REMEMBER | 13:14 |
| dzho | I've been using it for at least 7 years, but I can quit at any time. | 13:57 |
| snap-l | BTW: New OMC is out for your listening perusal | 14:47 |
| brousch | Dangit. Now I'm 3 behind | 14:47 |
| brousch | I'm currently listeing to long song | 14:47 |
| snap-l | Heh. | 14:48 |
| greg-g | is it bad I get excited about announcements like this? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2012OctDec/0004.html | 17:07 |
| brousch | yes | 17:14 |
| brousch | nerd | 17:15 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Is it sad that every time I see a working group get together, I wonder how they're going to break things? | 17:32 |
| brousch | yes | 17:35 |
| brousch | codger | 17:35 |
| greg-g | I had a nice debate with some new roommates who are startup mobile devs where they complained that standards orgs take too long | 17:40 |
| greg-g | My perfect retort was: Well, I trust slow grey beards more than I trust money hungry brogrammers. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | and they shut up ;) | 17:40 |
| greg-g | (sorry to invoke the new godwin law of brogrammers) | 17:41 |
| snap-l | heh | 17:41 |
| jjesse | greg-g, standards creation does take too long | 18:15 |
| jjesse | so they do have a point | 18:15 |
| greg-g | I understand it takes a while, but, most efficiencies in speed are at the cost of many things. | 18:29 |
| greg-g | eg: community involvement, true review and critique, and bake in period (time to do implementations use a draft before it becomes final) | 18:29 |
| greg-g | for the example in my world: Schema.org was a response to W3C metadata production). But, it means Schema.org is basically just Google pushing things forward without consultation (because they *obviously know best*) ugh | 18:31 |
| greg-g | not sure about those extraneous parens etc, I was interrupt while typing that | 18:31 |
| jrwren | http2, because we don't like the sound of spdy | 18:34 |
| brousch | What's wrong with spudy? | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Because it's Googe pushing things | 18:36 |
| jjesse | greg-g, its even worse in the government for standards, DISA (Defense Information Security Agency) just released their security guide for iOS4 | 18:49 |
| jjesse | haven't revved it for iOS 5 let alone iOS6 | 18:49 |
| snap-l | That's pathetic | 18:49 |
| jjesse | yeah but it does take time | 18:51 |
| snap-l | Understandable, but that's two revs old | 18:51 |
| jjesse | oh i know | 18:52 |
| snap-l | iOS4 is probably deprecated at this point. | 18:52 |
| jjesse | i bet | 18:52 |
| jjesse | but that's the speed of government | 18:52 |
| greg-g | jjesse: haha | 18:56 |
| jjesse | pretty sad | 18:56 |
| greg-g | I'd be cuious who actually did that work, that stuff is usually farmed out | 18:56 |
| greg-g | to SRI or whomever | 18:57 |
| jjesse | yeah, General Dynmaics, Lockheed Martin, SRI, some integrator | 18:57 |
| jjesse | going to be a blood bath if this sequest | 18:57 |
| jjesse | doh | 18:57 |
| jjesse | going to be a blood bath if this sequester thing in the budget goes through and a ton of cuts happen | 18:57 |
| devinheitmueller | jjesse: when you say "blood bath", do you mean a *literal* blood bath? Or do you just mean "shrinking an overbloated military-industrial complex and firing a bunch of overpaid contractors"? | 19:19 |
| * devinheitmueller takes off his trolling hat and goes back to Linux drivers. ;-) | 19:19 | |
| jjesse | i mean lock head martin will have to "fire" all 120,000 employees | 19:19 |
| jjesse | search google news for the WARN act | 19:20 |
| devinheitmueller | Lockheed was at $24 in 2000. They're at $92 now. I think they're doing just fine. | 19:21 |
| devinheitmueller | And it's fear mongering like that which causes politicians to do stupid things. | 19:21 |
| * devinheitmueller goes back to Linux drivers for real now. | 19:21 | |
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