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WeThePeopleio__, newest kernel?00:00
io__WeThePeople: this is looking worse i can t access even an older kernel now, hold on..00:00
ahmedipaWeThePeople: I have cancelled PlayOnLinux and I want to install wine throw terminal same problem00:01
Hayateio__, you can fix them through cli mode00:01
io__newest 3.2.0-3100:01
Hayateahmedipa, what th problems?00:01
Hayatethe00:02
gunarm1whats the best way to set swapspace on /dev/sdj2 and ext4 to /dev/sdj3 if you cant use gparted? (no gui)00:02
overcluckerdavidgilmour: php4 is already at end of life, isn't it?00:02
oscar_Hello, I have problems trying to access my system, I'm using ubuntu 11.04, I only see this massage: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present. -Help please00:02
WeThePeopleio__, can you get to a tty or terminal00:02
io__o i am ready to roll00:02
davidgilmourio, looks like a great idea, thanks00:02
ahmedipaWeThePeople: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)00:02
ahmedipaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:02
WeThePeopleio__, type sudo do-release-update00:02
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ahmedipaWeThePeople: what does that mean00:03
io__WeThePeople: the command is wrong00:03
Hayategunarm1, you can use parted (for advanced) or cfdisk00:03
WeThePeopleio__, im sry its upgrade00:03
davidgilmouroverclucker: yes but I have an application encoded with zend optimizer.. I'm supposed to migrate it and I can't get it to work on PHP 500:03
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io__ahmedipa: you have more than one instance of updating or installing software running00:04
io__ahmedipa: close everything ans restart synaptics or whatever yo uare using to install00:04
Hayateoscar_ i think you were using crypted swap ? Thats right?00:04
io__WeThePeople: i ve already done an apt-get upgrade before00:05
oscar_Hayate: crypted home and swap, yes00:05
WeThePeopleahmedipa, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/e-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable-360554/00:05
gunarm1Hayate, i tried parted and it basically said "I suck don't use me for this"00:06
Hayateoscar__ , what are you doing now? Do some upgrades?00:06
Hayateguarm1, parted was hard .... Thats for advanced user and usage00:07
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Hayategunarm1, parted was hard .... Thats for advanced user and usage00:07
oscar_Hayate: the problem occures when the system sudenly off when i was login00:07
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witakrHey folks00:08
gunarm1Hayate, what I mean is parted is apparently deprecated and for FS manipulation and suggests using e2fsprogs00:08
witakrIn Xubuntu 12.04: How do i stop my DVD's/CDs from opening in the file manager and do nothing instead?00:08
Hayateoscar__, maybe you need check disk /  fsck your disk00:08
io__WeThePeople: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255073/   troubles with video driver i d say00:09
witakrWhen I insert the disk that is00:09
io__let s reinstall nvidia drivers?00:09
gunarm1whats the command to display a bunch of stats about your wifi card including the dB of the signal of the current connection?00:09
witakrOr I guess what i mean is how do i keep the cd from opening in file manager once it is mounted.00:10
witakr?00:10
Hayategunarm1, actually e2fsprogs contain some tool to mkfs and mkswap..you should explore them00:10
WeThePeopleio__, you could try to reinstall xorg server00:10
gunarm1Hayate, looking into that now thanks00:10
overcluckeroscar_: make sure you're in recovery or on a live cd if you are going to fsck your root partition00:11
StepNjumpHi, i tried to upgrade to the latest LTS version but unfortunately, the set up didn't complete... It won't log on to X but seems that all my data are still intact.00:11
witakrNo one knows? Okiedoke nevermind00:11
StepNjumpIs there a way I could install Ubuntu on top and above or try to upgrade again?00:11
wilee-nileeStepNjump, Throw the backup on  and try again00:12
io__nvidia removed, let s restart00:12
Hayatewitakr, you can look at file manager settings,usually under media00:12
oscar_overclucker: how do i do a fsck from recovery?00:12
io__yeah! bingo00:12
witakrThanks Hayate00:13
wilee-nileeStepNjump, What release were you upgrading from?00:13
oscar_Hayate: i already made the fsck00:16
overcluckeroscar_: just to check, it's your encrypted home partition that's giving you trouble, right?00:16
oscar_overcluker: yes00:17
wilee-nileeoverclucker, Not mentioned but it was a hard shutdown00:17
oscar_overclucker: yes00:17
xanguaStepNjump: do you have Home in a separate partition¿00:18
witakrHayate, FYI: It was under Settings > Settings Manager > Removable Drives and Media - Thanks for the tip. It let me to this place in a round-a-bout way00:19
overcluckeroscar_: what you will have to do is open the encryptd volume with cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXN crypthome, and fsck /dev/mapper/crypthome00:20
overcluckeroscar_: hold on it may have changed since i last did it00:21
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StepNjumpwilee-nilee.. I think it was 10.04 or something like that...00:23
StepNjumpxangua no! :(00:23
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StepNjumpwilee-nilee no backup as usual!00:24
mkeysI'm having a problem with a fresh 12.04 alternate 32bit install, system with usb hd plugged in doesn't see it, after system is fully up i can manually replug it and then ubuntu will "see" it. I want to mount this usb hd to /usbhd at boot as to use it for a backup target destination. blkid doesn't see it until replug. uuid is strange all around, blkid and /dev/disk/by-uuid show it as "D6D4E78DD4E76E65 -> ../../sdc1"00:24
wilee-nileeStepNjump, Hmm no back up and not knowing what the install actually was, "insert snide remark here" ;)00:25
oscar_overclucker: when i login in a terminal, i can access my archives, the problem is when i use the graphical login. Could it be a configuratión problem? something deleted?00:25
zykotick9mkeys: see "/msg ubottu fstab"00:25
overcluckeroscar_: running fsck on root is probably the right move, since ubuntu now uses encfs for encrypted hoems00:26
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mkeyszykotick9 : tried fstab by uuid and by /dev/sdc1, both fail. options tried so far "auto,hotplug,defaults 0 0"00:26
StepNjumpYes I figured....00:26
zykotick9mkeys: is it ext2/3/4?00:26
mkeyszykotick9 : mount -a only works after a replug of device00:26
mkeyszykotick9 : ntfs00:26
oscar_overclucker: i am using ubuntu 11.0400:27
zykotick9mkeys: good luck.  i can't/won't help.00:27
mkeyszykotick9 : may I ask why ntfs limits the support? Just trying to figure out the problem00:27
noob-01Hello. If I have a server with two nics that connects to a switch. How can I get a node to talk to the server?00:27
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StepNjumpxangua, if I had had a separate home partition, would it have been possible to salvage my system that way?00:29
mkeyszykotick9 : i'm assuming hte strange uuid is associated with ntfs somehow. i've spotted that out on the 'web in my googles.00:29
xanguaStepNjump: well if you had a home partition it would be easier to reinstall since your data and documents are on a separate partition00:30
overcluckeroscar_: i think it's the same. try to fsck the root partition, and if that does not fix it, wiping your home folder may be the best option.00:30
StepNjumpok.... one of these days!00:30
Led_Zeppelinhi. just got 12.04. I have 2 monitors and I am using xinerima. But I see 2 seperate tool bars. How can I just have one?00:31
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: with xinerama you should see only 1?  what video card are you using "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.00:32
oscar_overclucker: all my work is there, i can not delete all00:32
Led_Zeppelinzykotick9, well, there is 1 desktop alright. it looks great. But I see 2 toolbars on the top. I can move the mouse left to right.00:33
Led_Zeppelin00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)00:33
Led_Zeppelin02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)00:33
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: fyi twin-view is nvidia-propritary version of xinerama (you should probably be using twinview)00:34
Led_Zeppelinah00:34
mkeyszykotick9 : will repartition/reformat the usb hd as ext3 and try again.00:34
rinzlerHow do I keep my 12.04 machine from doing ANYTHING with updates. I'm tired of my computer locking me out of dpkg without my permission.00:34
Led_Zeppelinzykotick9, thanks. it seems twinview is greyed out for me.00:35
Led_Zeppelinhow do I get it reenabled?00:35
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: are you sure you are using the nvidia-propritary driver?  or nouveau?00:35
oscar_overclucker: i can access my folders and archives by using the terminal, so the home is accessible, not blocked.00:35
TJ-Led_Zeppelin: You can't do twinview across multiple GPUs, only across multiple heads/monitors on a single GPU00:35
Led_Zeppelinzykotick9, using nvidia prop driver. using nvidia-settings to configure.00:35
Led_ZeppelinTJ-, ah. I see. I have 2 GPUs00:36
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: nvidia-setttings should let you configure it somehow?00:36
TJ-oscar_: Is the problem that you can't find/unlock the ecryptfs home?00:36
Led_ZeppelinTJ-, so, i can use Xinerama only right?00:36
overcluckeroscar_: you can backup the whole home folder, there may be damaged config files kepping you from loggin in though00:37
TJ-Led_Zeppelin: I don't think you can that either - unless you want to forgo 3D acceleration totally. I think the only option is additional X screens - one per GPU00:37
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: is this hybrid intel/nvidia?  finding the vga section does "lspci -v" list 2 cards?00:37
Led_Zeppelini dont think its a hybrid card.00:37
Led_Zeppelini don't care much for 3d acceleration :p00:37
Led_Zeppelinbrb. let me try something00:37
overcluckerTJ-: logging in to X fails for him00:37
oscar_TJ: no, i can access the home by the terminal00:37
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: then i don't understand your 2 GPUs statement, sorry.00:37
Led_Zeppelinzykotick9, i have 2 GPUs. Each monitor connects to one GPU00:38
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: ahh.  then that xinerama is probably your only option - best of luck (i haven't used dual-video cards in years)00:38
TJ-oscar_: And you want to decrypt the encrypted part?00:39
TJ-oscar_: Or, has that happened when you logged in?00:39
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oscar_TJ: when i try to login00:40
rinzlerHow do I keep the system from doing ANYTHING with updates? I'm tired of being locked out of dpkg without my permission.00:40
seednode"sudo apt-get remove dpkg" (No, not really)00:41
TJ-oscar_: User's encrypted homes are stored at "/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs"00:41
jribseednode: please don't make those jokes :/00:41
rinzlerseednode: har har :000:41
TJ-oscar_: If you're logged into the account and the ecryptfs hasn't been unlocked, you should see the file README.txt in the home directory, that tells you how to unlock the encrypted part00:42
milanandmeI have a problem with internet.  How do I get help with it?00:42
seednodeAsk someone, milanandme00:42
milanandmeWhom should I ask?00:42
oscar_TJ: this is the massage system say: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present.00:42
seednoderinzler: Well, I googled something that said to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic00:42
wilee-nileerinzler, Is you apt-get stock or have you added stuff, here I never get locked out it sounds more like an error that needs finding, user or system.00:42
seednodeChange APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; to 000:42
TJ-oscar_: Oh! That's not encrypted home, that's just the swap file mount getting confused :) Sorry, I thought you had serious problems :D00:43
Led_Zeppelinnot a big deal. I have 2 menus00:43
Led_Zeppelinso far everything looks good!00:43
rinzlerwilee-nilee: stock afaik.00:44
seednoderinzler, did you pick "automatic updates" when you installed Ubuntu?00:44
TJ-oscar_: which Ubuntu version are you using? 12.04?00:44
oscar_TJ: thanks  to say is not a serious problem00:44
rinzlerseednode: I frickin hope not.00:45
oscar_TJ: 11.0400:45
overcluckerseednode: that's more elegant than removing update-notifier like i've been doing00:45
seednodeoverclucker: Thanks, I googled it myself ^^00:45
wilee-nileerinzler, Lookin software sources00:45
Led_Zeppelinwhat is the best way to select what processes are running for startup? I want a lean system00:46
oscar_TJ: how can i fix this problem?00:46
TJ-oscar_: The "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1" has been a long-standing issue that still isn't fully understood. We thought it had been fixed several times. It's caused by some out-of-sequence actions during early boot when lots of things are being done in parallel to speed up boot-times. Something gets done in the wrong order.00:46
seednodeLed_Zeppelin: Clean out your ~/.xinitrc, rc.local, and the like00:47
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seednodeAnd remove unnecessary daemons from rc.conf00:47
zykotick9Led_Zeppelin: ubuntu currently lacks basic service management...  no joke.00:47
Led_Zeppelinseednode, ok. is there a gui for ubuntu for that?00:47
Led_Zeppelinoh man00:47
Led_Zeppelingod knows what is running :p00:48
seednodeWell, Led_Zeppelin, I can walk you through it, if you'd like.00:48
seednodeI don't know if there's a GUI.00:48
oscar_TJ: ok, understand, but can i fix this?00:48
dr_willisLed_Zeppelin:  you mean user programs when they login? or system services?00:48
rinzlerseednode: thanks for the tip. We'll see if that works. :P00:48
zykotick9seednode: there isn't, a gui for servie management...00:48
Led_Zeppelindr_willis, system services.00:48
seednodeAlright, let me know if it works.00:48
Led_Zeppelindr_willis, i will start with that.00:48
* mkeys twiddles thumbs waiting on mkfs.ext3 on a 1tb usb00:48
seednodezykotick9, I don't use Ubuntu, that's why I wasn't sure.00:49
zykotick9seednode: neither do i00:49
TJ-Led_Zeppelin: for upstart jobs you can disable them selectively: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting00:49
seednodeOh, okay.00:49
dr_willisLed_Zeppelin:  No idea of any gui/tools - i just learn how upstart works. ;) -->  best guide ive seen --> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/00:49
dr_willisLed_Zeppelin:  unless you have a load of services installed, or a very old machine. i doubt if you will notice much improbement by disabling services00:50
rinzleralso, how do I find out what is eating my CPU time and what I can do about them?00:50
seednodedr_willis: Well, he'll probably decrease boot time.00:50
seednoderinzler, use htop and look for processes with unusually high resource usage.00:50
zykotick9rinzler: htop is very handy00:50
dr_willisUpstart services are supposed to run in parallel and lightdm even can/will be loaded befor most services are totally done. ;)00:51
TJ-oscar_: I'm not aware of a fix for all causes of the cryptswap1 issues as yet, but you might find something useful by searching the launchpad bug-tracker00:51
TJ-Led_Zeppelin: for controlling old-style SYS-V init scripts, see "man update-rc.d"00:52
dr_willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting00:52
mkeyszykotick9 : ntfs appears to be the culprit of weird uuid. blkid now shows : /dev/sdc1: LABEL="usbhd" UUID="24a29692-95e3-4077-9f5f-9b661be580e1" TYPE="ext3" . Trying a reboot now.1~00:53
rinzlerwhat is lightdm?00:53
mkeyswith fstab..00:53
dr_willisrinzler:  the default login screen/login manager00:53
lobhaterrinzler: it is the gui for the OS00:54
rinzlerdr_willis: seems to be the thing that stands out as for CPU usage...00:54
rinzlerSadly...00:54
zykotick9lobhater: the GUI would be called Xorg.  the DM is called lightdm.00:54
lobhaterrinzler: is it a older machine?00:54
dr_willisrinzler:  that would be weird.. since lightdm is just what gets your name/pass on login, then it starts up X for you.00:54
oscar_TJ: i found a webpage, but i dont understand what i have to do, can you help me with this?00:54
dr_willisrinzler:  i would have to wonder how you came to that conclusion, and if you are not missreading the information you are looking at.00:55
lobhaterfrom the lightdm web page "however it also manages the X servers "00:55
zykotick9dr_willis: lightdm requires xorg to run ;)00:55
lJ6ilHello. Big trouble here. A friend of mine has bought an asus eeepc 1225C, which contains an Intel GMA 3600. Can't have any resolution higher than 1024x768... I installed Xubuntu 12.04 32 bits. Launched jockey-gtk. Proposed me cedraview drivers for this card... But can't boot now.00:56
rinzlerlobhater dr_willis: yeah, it is pretty old. I'm kinda trying to bring it back to useful existence, but it's iffy.00:56
lJ6ili mean i can boot but i'm talking to you through weechat on a tty00:56
TJ-oscar_: what's the page? As I said, the causes aren't fully understood and are pretty subtle. You could end up messing the system up properly if you're not skilled in system admin and understand the boot process00:56
dr_willisrinzler:  for low end/old hardware, lubuntu may be a better alternative.00:56
dr_willisrinzler:  what are the exact specs?00:57
lJ6ilBoot stuck with a message : "could not write bytes : broken pipe"00:57
lobhaterrinzler: yea you might wanna look at some light weight desktop environment.  I bet you can find one you like that allows you to do what you want and not clock you box either00:57
lJ6ilÍt's 3 o clock here and my friend absolutely needs her laptop for tomorrow morning... If anyone has any idea...00:58
rinzlerdr_willis: I'll look into it. Uhm... Dell precision m70 and slow. I haven't cared to find out :P00:58
oscar_TJ: this is the web page : http://askubuntu.com/questions/56843/could-not-mount-dev-mapper-cryptswap1  . if you see it dificul to do something about, just tell me thanks.00:58
Led_Zeppelinthe new ubunty 12.04 is awesome!00:59
lJ6ilLed_Zeppelin: when it allows you to boot your graphic session.00:59
rinzlerI'll be looking into lubuntu, but for now, I'm out. Thanks for the help!01:00
Led_Zeppelinheh. yah01:00
lJ6ilNo one ?01:00
muellilJ6il: hm. I guess you could remove that driver that you may suspect to be the cuplrit, no..?01:00
Led_Zeppelini love the eye candy even for my slow ass pc01:00
lobhaterlJ6il:  have you tried uninstalling the drivers and using the default for now01:00
lobhaterlJ6il: or just do a fresh install as a last resort :(01:01
TJ-oscar_: Don't do what it recommends. The answer is totally wrong. The responder hasn't noticed that the line in fstab is commented out *because* cryptswap1 is being mounted!01:01
muellilJ6il: How fatal is that error message anyway? I mean, what do you do to then boot anyway? Can you switch tty? Press escape?01:01
lJ6ilmuelli, lobhater sure. I'm removing it.01:02
oscar_TJ: maybe i have to reinstall all, how can i do a backup from the terminal?01:02
lJ6ilmuelli: just can use tty01:02
mkeysok, it's formatted ext3 now but it still didn't mount at boot. ubuntu prompted me to "press s to skip" upon boot. once it booted fully booted it still didn't pick it up until i manually replugged it01:02
lJ6ilRebooting. Coming back. > muelli lobhater01:03
mkeysat replug it automatically mounted to the proper place01:03
TJ-oscar_: A reinstall probably won't help. The issue is caused by timing of device discovery/mounting. If you want to do something, comment out the line in "/etc/fstab" that causes "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1" to be mounted.01:03
TJ-lJ6il - there are several active bug reports. Maybe one of these will offer a solution/workaround? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=cedarview01:04
lobhaterany luck?01:04
seednodeHey, whoever I was helping with an internet issues, can you message me again? Hexchat crashed.01:04
lJ6illobhater, muelli ... Purged the drivers. But can't boot...01:05
muellilJ6il: how do you know?01:05
lJ6ilTJ-: thanks, gonna see this01:05
lJ6ilmuelli: cause i just did it ?01:05
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seednodeBut really though, who was I helping?01:06
lobhaterlJ6il: what is the error message it is giving you?01:06
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lJ6illobhater: no more message. "Checking battery state. [ok]" then nothing01:07
TJ-seednode: rinzler ... who has left the building01:07
seednodeNo, it was someone else. They were having a weird internet issue.01:07
oscar_TJ: do i have to buy a new pc?01:08
lobhaterlJ6il: are you using lightdm?01:08
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lJ6illobhater: no... Just using xubuntu out of the box (gdm i think ?)01:08
oscar_TJ: how can i edit /etc/fstab?01:08
vamp774sudo <editor> /etc/fstab01:09
vamp774like sudo emacs /etc/fstab01:09
lobhaterlJ6il: at the tty type sudo service gdm restart01:09
lobhaterwhat does it say then?01:09
zykotick9vamp774: only is <editor> = terminal app, else, "gksudo GUI_editor file"01:09
zykotick9s/is/if/01:09
TJ-!fstab | oscar_01:10
ubottuoscar_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:10
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gunarm1i tried to clone an ubuntu OS partition to another drive, and when I try to boot off of it it just prints garbled characters after the bios, anything I can do to make this work?  or should I just reinstall ubuntu?01:10
lJ6illobhater: unrecognized service01:10
vamp774no idea what you're saying: edited fstab the other day.  terminal --> sudo emacs /etc/fstab01:10
vamp774I use emacs01:10
lJ6illobhater: coming back (reboot)01:11
Hayategunarm1, what are you doing to do that?01:11
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lobhaterlJ6il: any luck? if not go to tty          startx           what is the output?01:13
lJ6illobhater: now it crashes after "stopping system v compatibility [ok]"...01:13
lJ6illobhater: ! Works01:14
lobhaterlJ6il: huh?01:14
lJ6illobhater: a bad resolution yet, but back to normal. Thanks.01:14
lobhaterlJ6il: startx worked?01:15
lJ6ilyeah.01:15
lobhaterhmmm strange01:15
lobhatergood luck01:15
gunarm1Hayate, to clone the OS?  i did gzip -dc image.gz | dd of=/dev/sdj101:15
lJ6ilthanks...01:15
lobhaternp01:16
gunarm1after dd if=/dev/sdj1 | gzip > image01:16
gunarm1the image went onto the partition, i was able to mount it and write to the file system01:16
lJ6ilSo anyone ? Can't change the resolution of my GMA 3600. When installing the drivers through jockey-gtk, total crash.01:16
TJ-gunarm1: And did you also install GRUB to the MBR of the disk, with "grub-install"  ?01:17
gunarm1TJ-, ah, no do i need to chroot to the filesystem first?01:17
TJ-gunarm1: Also, is it loading a kernel and initrd of the same architecture as the CPU?01:18
gunarm1TJ-, same exact hardware01:18
gunarm1but nothing loading, garbled characters where grub should be01:18
TJ-gunarm1: I'd guess so - although to get what you described, would suggest there's a boot-strap in the MBR but it's handing over to something that isn't real code in stage 2 or 3, or else when the kernel is supposed to be fetched01:19
gunarm1TJ-, thats over my head :) so if I boot into a live cd, open the terminal, where/how do I run grub-install?01:19
TJ-gunarm1: If you hold down/press Shift key as the BIOS POST ends, can you get into a proper GRUB menu?01:19
gunarm1good question, ill try it, but I doubt it01:20
TJ-gunarm1: It'll at least let you know how much you've got to fix-up01:20
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DominciiWeird place to ask but I don't suppose any of you guys have a BTN invite I could get?01:22
jrib!ot | Domincii01:22
ubottuDomincii: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:22
gunarm1TJ-, no shift key grub menu, interestingly after rebooting it no more garbled characters, once it said "check" something, and now it goes bios to a blank screen with a blinking curser01:22
Dominciiehe, sorry Jrib01:22
TJ-gunarm1: So, liveISO, chroot mount the installed system, and chroot "grub-install" then01:23
hackinblackIs there a way to increase GRUB screen time? to say 60 seconds01:23
gunarm1TJ- ok thanks01:24
K350howto - in a script - replace sudo's passwordprompt with dialog's '--passwordbox' widget?01:24
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TJ-K350: There's an alternative. Use the NOPASSWD option in the sudoers file, for the command you want to have the script execute01:27
K350Revo: nja, det där var för zenity. Jag behöver något för 'dialog'01:28
K350Revo: jag vet hur man gör en passwoordbox i dialog men inte hur jag ersätter sudo's befintliga med dialogs --passwordbox01:28
mih1406Hi, Any alternative to MASM32 on Ubuntu?01:29
TJ-K350: use sudo's "-A" option01:30
K350mih1406: what's MASM32?01:32
TJ-mih1406: I *think* jwasm is close01:32
K350TJ-: oh...lets see!01:32
BarkingFishMorning guys :)  I am currently solidly using KDE - and I'd like to integrate the gnome desktop and all the necessary bits into my system on Kubuntu.  Is there a metapackage to download the whole of the basic gnome stuff in one go please?01:39
chris92BarkingFish: are you talking about Gnome3?01:40
mih1406TJ: jwasm has differnet format01:41
BarkingFishchris92, I'm talking about gnome, whatever type it is currently - I'm on kubuntu, I use KDE, i have gnome programs which don't work properly in kde, so I want to add gnome's DM and the main bits of gnome to my system.01:41
BarkingFishI have no idea what to get though, or where to start01:42
mih1406TJ-: I "think"01:42
TJ-mih1406: yeah, the table does say 'partial' support. I think that's all you're going to get from F/OSS.01:43
chris92BarkingFish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255172/01:44
TJ-mih1406: although it does say "JWasm fully supports Masm v6 syntax"01:44
OerHeksBarkingFish, spt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but then you need to logout & change DM01:44
chris92OerHeks: that would be unity, right?01:44
BarkingFishOerHeks, ok, cheers.01:44
ChaozHenchmanokay, I'm new to ubuntu and I don't know how to switch between the windows on it01:44
OerHekscurrent gnome3 _ unity yes01:44
ChaozHenchmanwhat's the key combo for it?01:44
wilee-nileeBarkingFish, There are some app shared if you have gnome and kde installed but you can't really mix the two together at the same time.01:44
chris92ChaozHenchman: Alt+Tab probably01:44
BarkingFishThe problem I have is with Kino - it doesn't function from the version I used to have long ago on Mandriva01:44
ChaozHenchmanthankies!01:44
seednodeChaozHenchman, You can set that up in Compiz with the compizconfig-session-manager; don't know the defaults.01:44
OerHeksChaozHenchman, hold win key for quick help short keys01:45
BarkingFishWhen I try to edit a video now, it runs about 4* faster than it should, and has no audio, regardless of how I set it01:45
BarkingFishwilee-nilee, no, but to the best of my knowledge I can have more than one DM installed :)01:46
TJ-ChaozHenchman: Hold down the Super/Windows key and you'll get a HUD showing lots of common key combinations01:46
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wilee-nileeBarkingFish, sure you can have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu all installed, but they run separately and have apps that will run cross desktops, but it can be a mess for some especially if you want to remove any of them anf their metapackages without some knowledge in doing this.01:48
wilee-nileeand*01:48
BarkingFishholy WOW!01:49
BarkingFishI just went to start the download...   2 packages to remove - 476 to install!!!01:49
OerHeksawesome01:49
BarkingFishah well, better get started01:49
chris92BarkingFish: yup, thats a full desktop environment with its apps01:49
wilee-nileeBarkingFish, What I often see are people removing like say the ubuntu-desktop not all the packages and being stuck, because the don't get the package lists from like the psychcats website, or have them saved in a list.01:50
wilee-nileepsychocats*01:50
mih1406TJ-: Thanks01:50
BarkingFishwilee-nilee, I'm happy to do this.  I've tried always to co-exist with whatever comes along, and this will be a new experience for me, encountering unity :)01:50
BarkingFishI haven't had a gnome desktop for almost 8 years01:51
wilee-nileecool01:51
wilee-nileeBarkingFish, I suspect you have the skills to figure it all out and if not have some sort of backup. ;)01:52
wilee-nileeor the will to succeed01:52
BarkingFishbeen on linux about 10 years now, wilee-nilee - i have backups of the backups and 8 different USB sticks with full installs on01:53
wilee-nileecool sounds like your set, I have all my clones backed up as well and just have a multi load thumb for when needed BarkingFish01:54
willdabeastI have a question regarding Precise Penguin... For some reason I have been defaulted to the 2D graphics settings and I can't find the option for 3D. The reason I need 3D is so I can use keyboard combos such as alt-tab. Anyone know a fix?01:54
xanguawilldabeast: just clic in the icon next to your username in the login screen01:55
wilee-nileewilldabeast, 3D does not show in the gear drop down at login, are you short a graphic driver?01:55
BarkingFishwilldabeast, You shouldn't need 3D to use alt-tab.01:55
BarkingFishIt only switches windows to the best of my knowledge01:56
BarkingFishi don't run 3D anything here, my card barely supports it - and alt-tab works fine.01:56
willdabeastxangua, barkingfish, and wilee-nilee - I had no idea that option was available there haha. And yea when I go to keyboard settings it won't let me choose alt-tab. Says I need to be in 3D mode.01:56
willdabeastIf there is a way I can just adjust the keyboard settings without being in 3D mode I'd prefer that.01:57
wilee-nileeheck alt-tab works on the W& I'm on right now lol01:57
wilee-nileeW701:57
RawgerNicewake up you big baby01:58
willdabeastwilee-nilee - When I go to keyboard settings, all of the bindings are disabled mostly01:58
willdabeastIt actually says I need a new accelerator... and i can't read the rest in the box.01:59
silverarrowhi02:02
silverarrowis there a big difference between RTL8187 and RTL8187B ?02:03
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silverarrowit is wifi driverss02:03
hackinblackHELLO?02:03
silverarrowhi02:03
silverarrowI plug in wifi card, it connects but does not work02:04
codemanhi02:04
silverarrowapparently system loads RTL1817, but driver listed for my card is RTL8187B02:05
silverarrowso, do a "B" more or less make a big difference?02:05
malkaunsdoes Unity keep crashing for anyone else?02:05
silverarrowI havent heard anything02:05
BarkingFishsilverarrow, how does this connect to your PC? USB or it is an internal card?02:06
silverarrowit should not02:06
silverarrowusb02:06
wilee-nileemalkauns, Have you modified it?02:06
malkaunsno02:06
silverarrowhi again Bark02:06
silverarrowBarkingFish: * sorry02:07
silverarrowdaft situation02:07
wilee-nileemalkauns, Descibe the crash in the form of a question.02:07
wilee-nileedescribe*02:07
silverarrowI have searched on the forum, not much on this usb adaptor02:07
BarkingFishsilverarrow, can you open a terminal and run lsusb for me please, and give me the UDIC for the wifi device?02:07
silverarrowUDIC?02:08
BarkingFishthe 8 digit code separated by a :02:08
malkaunswilee-nilee, well it crashes in that all window borders disappear and i cannot get any focus on any windows, only way to restart it is to switch to terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 and start unity again02:08
BarkingFishUniversal Device Identification Code02:09
silverarrowBUS 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter02:09
wilee-nileemalkauns, And you have not installed the compizconfig settings manager and modified anything02:10
malkaunswilee-nilee, yes i have installed ccsm02:10
wilee-nileemalkauns, Have you changed anything there?02:10
BarkingFishsilverarrow, right - I can tell you now, with no uncertainty, that you have the wrong driver running.02:10
malkaunswell i added effects like trail focus and minimize animations ect02:10
wilee-nileemade the cube say02:10
silverarrowBarkingFish: the question might be: to "B" or not to "B"02:11
BarkingFishI have one of those sticks here, and the only way I am able to get it to run is using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers from the disk02:11
silverarrownasty02:11
silverarrowthat is a bug!!02:11
BarkingFishnope02:11
wilee-nileemalkauns, For a quick restart of unity which is a plugin in compiz install the fusion icon and make a launcher for it that will reload compiz.02:12
BarkingFishit's actually very good - both my wifi sticks use ndiswrapper.02:12
BarkingFishOne doesn't have any normal support at all, the other one has a driver which doesn't function :)02:12
wilee-nileerestart of compiz actually02:12
malkaunswilee-nilee, yea but i would rather it not crash in the first place02:12
BarkingFishif it wasn't for either of those, I wouldn't be on the net right now - and both are on ndiswrapper02:12
malkaunsso noone else has this problem?02:12
silverarrowis there a way to load ndis wrapper from live CD or get the package on a usb?02:13
BarkingFishsilverarrow, are you running the live CD now?02:13
silverarrowwhy is the RTL driver acting up then?02:13
silverarrowBarkingFish: just installed02:13
zykotick9malkauns: you probably shouldn't consider "compiz" to be enterprise-grade stability...  best of luck.02:14
silverarrowand rebooted02:14
BarkingFishno idea, silverarrow - I have not bothered to bury myself in it and find out - I haven't the time at the moment.02:14
wilee-nileemalkauns, That would be nice, there are 100's of websites on modifying compiz, any worth using suggest a restart button, and a carefully modifying compiz usually with specific instructions.02:14
wilee-nileeyou don't want to cough go wilee-nilee with compiz ;)02:14
silverarrowBarkingFish: thanks anyhow, I suppose that kind of burrying you ohnly do when you are forced to02:14
hackinblackburrying02:15
silverarrow!"#¤%&02:15
zykotick9malkauns: i'm certain LOTS of people have unity crashing issues - even if no one is replying to you...02:15
TJ-silverarrow: BarkingFish "rtl8187" is the correct driver for the RTL8187B, since at least 2.6.2302:15
BarkingFishsilverarrow, I'm working as an operational paramedic at the moment, I don't get much time to sit and do a lot - only between the hours of 10pm and 6am which is when I operate.02:15
BarkingFishTJ-, that may be so - but it doesn't work on some devices which have that chipset02:16
hackinblackAnyone here by change seen "The Walking Dead" on tv series?02:16
BarkingFishand 0bda:8187 i'm afraid is one of them02:16
magn3tsHi can anyone tell me why Ubuntu keeps seeing my 3TB drives as 4.1GB?02:16
xangua!ot | hackinblack02:16
ubottuhackinblack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:16
BarkingFishI have it in a wifi stick branded by Texet02:16
silverarrowTJ card detects, lights green, connects to network with password, but there is not real web connection, it works fine on a windows computer right beside02:16
hackinblack!ot02:17
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:17
TJ-silverarrow: does this look to describe it? bug #99546702:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 995467 in linux (Ubuntu) "0bda:8187 Realtek rtl8187b wireless chipset slow speed" [Medium,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99546702:17
hackinblack!ot | xangua02:17
ubottuxangua: please see above02:17
xanguahackinblack: please stop that02:17
hackinblackYou please stop that02:17
silverarrownon exisiting bug?02:18
silverarroware you having me on, or did the page come out wrong ?02:18
TJ-Why? did you not get the bug description?02:18
h00khackinblack: please mind the topic of the channel, and you can talk about not-supported-related subjects in #ubuntu-offtopic02:19
silverarrowno,02:19
TJ-silverarrow: try the link ubottu gave again02:19
twitchie!botsnack02:19
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:19
hackinblack^^^^02:19
silverarrowlaunchpad link ubottu suggested opens fine though02:20
TJ-silverarrow: that's the only one there is!02:20
silverarrowhmm02:21
silverarrowyes, slow internet02:21
silverarrowsloooooooooooooooow02:21
silverarrowor no real connection02:21
alessiodamn.. IRC is still alive.. :D02:22
silverarrownot sure how to generate a log report on a usb wireless02:22
magn3tsHi can anyone tell me why Ubuntu keeps seeing my 3TB drives as 4.1GB?02:22
silverarrowyou can't  lunch in from terminal like a regular app02:22
silverarrow?02:22
twitchie!enter | silverarrow02:22
ubottusilverarrow: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:22
hackinblackMagn3ts is that a bad thing?02:22
BarkingFishmagn3ts, have you got anything stored on them yet?02:22
TJ-silverarrow: It's very worth trying the latest mainline kernel, 3.6, from the Ubuntu kernel team. If that solves the issue, you have a working system and we know where to find a patch to backport02:23
silverarrowfrom quantal?02:24
TJ-silverarrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds ... I'm currently using the 3.6 kernel from the "v3.6-quantal/" directory of the PPA02:24
silverarrowi can say I have the same issue in both 12.04 and 12.10 beta02:25
twitchiemagn3ts: are you running a 64 bit version of ubuntu? what filesystem did you format the drives as?02:26
silverarrowwell, think lubuntu daily ppc  have the latest kernel ? the issue is however the same in 386 and ppc02:26
silverarrowBarkingFish: you are probably all correct on the wrapper thing02:27
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TJ-silverarrow: The quantal standard kernel is 3.5, not 3.602:28
silverarrowI see02:28
silverarrowthanks02:28
silverarrownot sure how to get the 3.6 kernel safely though,02:28
silverarrowdo they launch new kernels on updates? or not until 13.04?02:29
BarkingFishthe last kernel I got was 3.2.0-3202:29
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silverarrowa horror with dependencies and compatibilities ?02:30
hackinblack:P02:30
TJ-silverarrow: If you read the Kernel Team wiki I posted, it gives you detailed instructions on how which files to download, and how to install them using dpkg02:30
silverarrowBarkingFish: in the LTS release ?02:30
BarkingFishyeah, 12.04 - i got it on update yesterday02:30
BarkingFishi have proposed and unsupported updates enabled though02:31
silverarrowyeah, thanks TJ02:31
silverarrowI might try it, when I get wired or wireless02:31
BarkingFishand I have got to restart, back in a tick. Just added the ubuntu desktop and unity :)02:31
BarkingFishback in a bit02:31
hackinblack!ot | barkingfish02:31
ubottubarkingfish: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:31
silverarrowthat should be treated as a bug though02:31
silverarrowi have had it all 12.0402:32
IdleOnehackinblack: Give it a rest please.02:32
hackinblackGive what a rest?02:32
silverarrowi  just put in a different wireless and didn't think more of it02:32
IdleOnehackinblack: The random commentary and emoticons, calling out people with !ot when you are the one being !ot...02:33
hackinblackWhat are you talking about? i just joined02:33
hackinblackAnd random the guy was off topic02:33
IdleOnehackinblack: You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic and be as funny as you want to be02:34
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hackinblackWho is trying to be funny?02:34
hackinblackWhat the heck are you talking about02:34
IdleOnehackinblack: I am talking about you disrupting the channel. Please just stick to support. Questions about  "The Walking Dead" are not on topic for this channel.02:36
hackinblackDude that was like 30 minutes ago02:36
hackinblackGet over it, the other guy already told me02:36
malkaunszykotick9, what makes you certain about unity crashes? have you seen many reports online?02:36
IdleOnehackinblack: get over it is one of my "anger" triggers but I am working on not banning people who tell me to get over it. Please follow the channel guidelines (/msg ubottu !guidelines) if you are not familiar with them.02:38
IdleOnethank you.02:38
silverarrowwhy get huffy, this is slow for this channel02:38
silverarrow?02:38
hackinblackNow you threatn me with a ban? Go ahead and see me back here in 1 minute or less.02:38
h00klet's move on, please.02:39
h00kSeriously.02:39
IdleOnehackinblack: I am asking you to follow the channel guidelines just like everybody else.02:39
hackinblackFor the second time. "GET OVER IT" that was 30 minutes ago and the other guy told me it02:39
silverarrowwhat difference will a newer kernel make?02:40
IdleOnesecurity updates, new device support, better performance...02:41
silverarrow...I am not than technically into it yet02:41
silverarrowI see02:42
IdleOnebut I suggest you stick with the kernel provided in the repositories unless you absolutely need to use a newer kernel.02:42
silverarrowyeah, maybe better to buy a different wireless device02:42
zykotick9IdleOne: +1 re kernels.  backports if update required.02:43
silverarrowkernelupdates does happen thogh02:45
silverarrowcan it be reversed ?02:45
h00ksilverarrow: you can boot from an older kernel if you have it installed, yeah02:46
lobhater1any one have any experience with myth tv with an ubuntu backend?02:47
BarkingFishMorning guys :)02:47
zykotick9!anyone | lobhater102:48
ubottulobhater1: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.02:48
hackinYawn, any one here have irssi? and or know a better irc client02:48
lobhater1is myth tv worth the trouble of setting up?02:48
BarkingFishRight. I have ubuntu desktop fully installed - with one minor problem. I cannot find settings to customize the desktop - so I can't move the panel at the top, to the bottom, and can't resize all the icons on my desktop. Any ideas please?02:48
zykotick9lobhater1: that's not a "support" question and thus offtopic here.02:48
shantornhackin, what are you looking for in a client?02:49
hackinIdk i want something like irssi terminal based02:49
shantornhave you looked at weechat?02:49
lobhater1i am having trouble setting up myth tv. how long has it taken you to set up?02:49
hackinno i havnt02:49
zykotick9lobhater1: fyi, i use mythtv to record all my TV OTA-HD02:50
shantornwhat i like about it over irssi is it has a nick list02:50
hackinIs weechat good? do you use it ?02:50
shantornstill scriptable02:50
zykotick9lobhater1: myth isn't "easy" to get running!02:50
shantorni just found it yesterday and havent set it up yet02:50
hackinI will give weechat a try02:50
shantornwww.weechat.org02:51
hackinok thanks02:51
BarkingFishcan someone help me with my little issue above please? I only need to do a couple of small things, and this experience will be perfect.02:53
mihaisergiycf02:53
BarkingFishI am liking the layout of the dm (and I assume this is unity), and I think I may just switch permanently from kdm :D02:53
TJ-BarkingFish: Unity does not allow the top menu/notifications bar be moved02:53
lobhater1BarkingFish:  you cant adjust any of those settings from the default menus02:53
BarkingFishSo what do I do about the icons on the desktop.  There are too many of them and they're not laid out properly. If I can shrink them, they'll all fit02:54
lobhater1BarkingFish: if you are BarkingFish:willing to put in the time and effort compiz will allow you to do just about anything02:54
zykotick9!info myunity | BarkingFish unity doesn't have a ton of customization like kde does02:54
ubottuBarkingFish unity doesn't have a ton of customization like kde does: myunity (source: myunity): Unity configurator. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 529 kB, installed size 1125 kB02:54
zykotick9BarkingFish: be aware that CCSM can break Unity02:55
lobhater1BarkingFish: it is not the most stable, so beware and backup, but you can do things you never even imagined!  pretty cool.  watch youtube for some examples02:55
lobhater1ccsm = compiz02:56
hackinHow do you backup ubuntu  like in windows? How do you make a full backup of ubuntu os? incase you need to reinstall?02:56
zykotick9lobhater1: actually ccsm = compizconfigsettingmanager or something ;)02:56
BarkingFishi don't want compiz running.  I want the whole of it in 2D. If I can't run it in 2D, with no transparency and animation, it's coming off, quicksharp :)02:56
zykotick9BarkingFish: be aware that 12.04 is the last unity2d02:57
BarkingFishby the time the next one comes out, I'll have a new pc capable of supporting 3d without struggling.02:57
BarkingFishUntil then, it needs to be dropped down to 2d, flat, opaque and no flashy stuff :)02:58
BarkingFishi still like it though :)02:58
lobhater1zykotick9: ccsm = CompizConfig Settings Manager    which is compiz.   is ccsm not a synonym for compiz?02:58
zykotick9lobhater1: unity is compiz, but unity != compiz, just as ccsm != compiz02:58
hackinblackCan anyone help with backing up ubuntu?02:59
zykotick9!ccsm > lobhater102:59
ubottulobhater1, please see my private message02:59
hackinblackCan anyone help with backing up ubuntu?03:00
lobhater1no PMs please03:01
awc737hi, How can I edit my grub load parameters, if nothing even boots? just black screen03:01
zykotick9lobhater1: i didn't PM you, i sent you a factoid.  best of luck.03:01
awc737although, I can load a live usb with pci=noacpi03:01
shantornhackinblack, what backup tools have you tried?03:01
hackinblackNone yet, i just need to know of a main method or reliable method of backing up ubuntu just like in windows.03:02
lobhater1great thanks, not sure what i would of done without your "pm factoid"03:02
TJ-awc737: get into the GRUB menu at start-up by holding/pressing Shift as soon as BIOS POST ends. In the GRUB menu, you can edit the entries including the kernel's command-line, and boot the revised cmd-line using Ctrl+X03:02
lobhater1hackinblack: at version of ubuntu are you using?03:03
lobhater1*what03:03
shantornwell i use a program called crashplan, it can backup to the cloud, for a fee, or backup to a local drive for free or backup to another pc on your netowrk or over the internet for free, its very easy to use03:03
hackinblackLTS03:03
hackinblackI am using the latest i believe 12.0403:03
hackinblackcrashplan?03:03
hackinblackDo yu have any links for this?03:04
h00khackinblack: there's the built in 'backup' application deja-dup03:04
h00k!backup | hackinblack03:04
ubottuhackinblack: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:04
lobhater1hackinblack: have you considered using the built in back up feature?03:04
awc737ahhhh TJ thanks! life saver03:04
lobhater1h00k: hooked you up, with a factoid.  nice03:04
hackinblackI noticed that but wasnt sure it worked as "deja-dub" I don't even know what that means english?03:04
hackinblackI will look at crashplan03:05
hackinblackand link ubottu gave03:05
awc737TJ-: hitting e to change the params on boot store that permanently?03:05
TJ-hackinblack: Deja Dup: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/deja-dup/03:05
perhapstiredhow can i find a folder in ubuntu?03:05
lobhater1hackinblack: yea just go to the dash menu (super key) and type backup. click the little black safe and follow the directions03:05
shantornhttp://www.crashplan.com/ i sue that to back up all my nix and win machines ot my main pc that has a 300gb storage drive03:05
perhapstiredwhat does /.foldername mean? and how can i find it?03:05
shantornsue=use03:05
TJ-awc737: No. You're only changing the params used right now. But once you can get into the booted system you can edit /etc/default/grub and then do "update-grub"03:06
nith1210perhapstired: any folder prefixed with a "." is hidden03:06
awc737sweet03:06
perhapstiredok so how do i uncover it03:06
nith1210perhapstired: using the file browser, use "CTRL+H" to toggle seeing them03:06
zykotick9awc737: e on grub use /etc/default/grub to make permanent03:06
hackinblackAlso is there a tool or application that i can edit the grub i bootloader screen with custom color or theme?03:06
perhapstiredok thanks03:06
hackinblackAnd make it last longer like 60seconds to stay on screen03:06
nith1210perhapstired: or, "View-->Show Hidden Files"03:06
nith1210np03:06
awc737thanks. does pci=noacpi sound good? I think the problem is uefi bios03:07
decci_Here is my dhcpd.conf entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255230/03:07
awc737surely I don't always need acpi disabled for this?03:07
TJ-perhapstired: A file or directory-name with a leading "." is considered by many tools to be 'hidden' unless overriding options are given to them. E.g. "ls -a"03:07
decci_I am unable to get the dhcpd service running..it is failing03:07
TJ-hackinblack: I used one background image from boot menu to desktop. I had to install it to GRUB, to a new plymouth theme, to lightdm and to the user background03:08
hackinblackHow ?03:09
hackinblackTJ03:09
awc737is it bad if I always have noacpi on a laptop with ssd?03:09
TJ-awc737: You shouldn't permanently disable ACPI, it is a core part of the system. There are other options probably more suited and limited in scope, that will help you. Can you describe the issue, or have log-file entries showing the problem?03:10
TJ-hackinblack: Lots of reading, lots of hard work03:10
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awc737TJ- no, just a new ultrabook with uefi bios, booting black screen. google indicated pci=noacpi, and it did work03:10
hackinblackI have seen on google people with custom themes or backgrounds bt i do not know how to do it with grub03:10
awc737is there another "safer" param I could try TJ-?03:11
TJ-awc737: Depending on the problem, there are many options you can try. Here's the list: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt03:11
TJ-awc737: It would help to know what is specifically going wrong03:11
awc737I was trying these params: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI03:12
awc737TJ-: i just said, it booted to a black screen, that's all I know, and pci=noacpi fixed it03:12
awc737is pci=noacpi as bad as acpi=off03:12
TJ-awc737: black screen ... but was the system frozen? or could you still ping it over the network, or SSH into it?03:12
ezioanyone know how to simply negate a -z test in a script?03:13
TJ-awc737: many times, 'black screen' is just a symptom of a bad video driver and can be overcome with the "nomodeset" kernel parameter03:13
awc737not sure TJ-, yeah I think it might be video related03:13
TJ-ezio:  ! -z "$VAR"03:13
awc737well, intel hd3000 probably wouldn't be an abnormal driver?03:13
TJ-awc737: Try "nomodeset" then - that often fixes the kernel mode-setting issues03:14
TJ-awc737: there's quite a lot of KMS issues still across a range of video hardware03:14
TJ-awc737: If that doesn't help, at least you've ruled out one of the easier solutions :)03:14
|Anthony|I would appreciate a review of the help page i extensively updated please. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX03:16
|Anthony|Review as in fact checking and whatnot. :)03:16
TJ-|Anthony|: That looks promising, thank-you. I'll try it out on one of my servers tomorrow03:17
* mihaisergiy huff03:18
|Anthony|TJ-, you have hardware sufficient for multiseat?03:18
TJ-|Anthony|: too much of it!03:19
|Anthony|haha03:19
TJ-Fancy a garage-sale? :p03:19
[x]|Anthony|-> what is multiseat ?03:19
TJ-I also do the opposite to multi-seat, or used to ... xdmx.03:19
|Anthony|[x], lol the Multiseat Introduction kinda explains that03:20
|Anthony|https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX#Introduction_To_Multiseat03:20
TJ-|Anthony|: It'd be good to have a PPA to wrap up Brian Cameron's work, and add in some installation scripts to automate the configuration as much as possible03:21
|Anthony|TJ-, i was thinking about starting a ppa for that... or pestering the person (a7) who has an existing, but outdated ppa to do it03:22
TJ-|Anthony|: I wonder, is there a "multiseat" project on launchpad?03:23
|Anthony|I linked to the ck and gdm branches03:24
|Anthony|but i didn't suss out any others there03:24
TJ-|Anthony|: Ahhh, there is, not touched since 200603:24
BlackWebJust curious does anyone here have a knowledge of Server RackMount Chassis03:24
cjsI'd like to have an icon appear in my notification area when updates become available, but never have update-manager or other crap pop up automatically, disrupting what I'm doing. Is there any way to do this in 12.04?03:25
TJ-BlackWeb: You mean 19" rackmounts?03:25
cjsBlackWeb: I do.03:25
cjsBlackWeb: Just PM me or let me know what channel you'd like to discuss that on.03:25
TJ-|Anthony|: It would be worth taking over that multiseat project03:26
BlackWebYa TJ Alright I have a cabinet that needs a Chassis and the main concern is the Width. Currently my Chassis are 4U 7" in Height  but Width is where I'm not quite sure, If i measure from the front its 19" but Actual body is 17"03:26
|Anthony|TJ-, the problem on my end atm is that i don't have additional hardware to test it on :/03:26
TJ-BlackWeb: That sounds about right ... there are usually brackets or sliders on the side of each unit03:27
BlackWebso is the width calculated with the brackets or just the body, trying to find a chassis that will fit into my cabinet03:27
superjoeI'm upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 - can someone double check my grub config here and make sure I'm not going to make my system unbootable?03:27
TJ-|Anthony|: one step at a time. I'm sure if done right, it would attract the more professional users03:27
superjoehttp://pastie.org/489457203:27
trismcjs: gsettings set com.ubuntu.update-notifier auto-launch false03:27
|Anthony|TJ-, the hw i'm using for the multiseat is kinda all i have and i've been working on getting it all up and running for a few weeks now while documenting my efforts along the way.03:28
routh_Hey. I'm running Ubuntu server 10.04 for my webhost. I installed ircd-hybrid today and I have it up and running. I can connect to it from localhost but not from outside the server. I have been troubleshooting all day and confirmed to the best of my ability that the problem does not concern ircd-hybrid itself. A nmap port scan of my server shows that the ports from 6666-6669 are open but filtered. However to the best of my knowled03:29
routh_ge, there is no firewall on my server right now. I removed iptables, fail2ban for testing and ufw was never installed. Is there someway to find out what the hell is filtering these ports??03:29
TJ-BlackWeb: The measurement between the fixing holes in the verticals inside my 42U cabinet is 18.25"03:30
cjstrism: Thanks!03:30
|Anthony|TJ-, i do agree though, that to have it be point-n-clicky would make it more attractive. especially considering fedora has it that way now. the downside to their approach (systemd-logind) is that there is no support for the nvidia binary. which kinda cuts out a large market who have nvidia and want opengl and hw acceleration.03:30
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[x]ok |03:31
TJ-|Anthony|: yes, covering the common hardware and drivers is important. It's worth contacting the registry to see if we can take over the multiseat project03:31
[x]ok |Anthony|03:31
|Anthony|routh_, do you have a network firewall?03:31
routh_Well, this is a cloud host. All ports to my server are open and I have to control access myself.03:32
TJ-BlackWeb: That 18.25" is from centers of the holes in each vertical. Total width to edge of frame is a tad over 19"03:32
[x]|Anthony|-> tell me some good irc channels pls03:32
routh_To the best of my knowledge this has to be a setup problem with the server itself.. I just am out of ideas of how to figure out what it is.03:32
BlackWebAlright I'll do a re measurement of mine but ya total width From Edge to frame is 19"03:33
TJ-routh_: Some facilities may filter IRC ports, since they are used by command-and-control servers for malware03:33
BlackWebon mine03:33
awc737damn. TJ- I had ubu before, now I have xubu. the shift on boot isn't working03:33
awc737it does say Grub loading, but then I see the xubuntu loading image, and then black03:33
TJ-BlackWeb: Yes, that's correct. 19.05" (ish) internally and 18.25" between fixing centers03:33
routh_TJ-: I'm guessing there's no easy way to tell that without asking.03:33
routh_TJ-: Wait.. I'm a dumbass. I can just change the ports.03:34
TJ-routh_: I'd think so, unless you search the web for mentions of it with your host?03:34
|Anthony|routh_, you could try to change the default ports03:34
TJ-routh_: Of course... you could even use the offical IRC port!03:34
routh_isn't that 6667?03:34
|Anthony|or 800103:34
|Anthony|something like that03:35
[x]who know boss linux distro ?03:35
TJ-routh_: No, 194.03:35
TJ-routh_: 6667 was chosen in the early days by non-privileged users wanting to run IRC daemons on their shell accounts. I used to do that back in about '93  :p03:35
awc737no it worked TJ-, but I get unknown command 'nomodeset'03:35
routh_interesting03:36
TJ-awc737: that's weird! which version of Ubuntu is that?03:36
awc737TJ- xubuntu, I think I'm typing it in the wrong place03:36
^GeCk0^gooood morning :) im looking for an audio recording tool, that records my pulse-audio-server to fetch the stream of any running application03:37
shantorncould someone please help me troubleshoot these errors on update, paste.ubuntu.com/125525403:37
TJ-awc737: Well, it *should* be on the linux command-line. From GRUB menu, press 'e' to edit, then move the cursor to the end of the line that starts "linux..." (avoid the 'initrd' line) and add "nomodeset" to the existing options (which are something like quiet splash vt_handoff=..."03:37
shantornit got to the last 26 mb of 398 and gave me those errors03:38
onatshi guys, how do i make a user be able to execute commands without requiring passwords for sudo03:39
trismshantorn: have you run: sudo apt-get update; the libxml2 package has be superceded (I didn't check the rest but I imagine it is the same)03:39
awc737ok TJ- I didn't get the error message, but still a black screen... back to pci=noacpi03:39
wilee-nileeonats, not a good idea we can't really advise there.03:39
shantornill give that a whirl, thanks for the tip03:39
cjsonats: Edit the sudoers file. I think they've taken out the example of the NOPASSWD configuration or whatever it was, but the sudoers manual page will have the details.03:40
TJ-shantorn: Those package versions are no longer in the archive as far as I can see. Do "sudo apt-get update" and then try again03:40
onatscjs: i put it there but it still asks for pword03:40
onatsand im connecting with no tty03:40
onatshow do i disable require tty? i saw it in some posts, but i can't seem to find that line in sudo lilst03:40
TJ-onats: you also have to add the user to the "nopasswdlogin" group03:41
onatsTJ-: there's a group like that?03:41
TJ-onats: If you want it for *all* log-ins the user does. If you want it only for particular sudo commands, then only use the sudoers file, with an entry for the user (or her group or an alias)03:42
onatsI'm actually getting this: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified03:42
awc737TJ-: should my params go next to initrd or linux03:42
awc737linux has quiet splash etc03:42
TJ-awc737: linux, always03:42
awc737maybe no wonder03:43
TJ-awc737: :p03:43
TJ-awc737: I find that GRUB editor doesn't always make it obvious that "linux..." and "initrd..." are separate lines03:43
awc737yeah it ran together03:43
awc737sweet, nomodeset, i see screen03:44
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cjsonats: Oh, that's different. Is there some reason you've no pty?03:44
TJ-|Anthony|: do you have a launchpad ID? I was thinking of emailing the registry team to ask them to give us control of multiseat03:44
onatscjs: I'm connecting via a job via jenkins, to a test server (VM)03:44
shaneohi guys I have my laptop hooked to an external monitor...the display is set to the external only...i use external speakers also but now my audio card says dummy and i have no sound any suggestions?03:45
TJ-awc737: that fixed it?!?03:45
cjsonats: I see. You might try requiretty=false.03:45
awc737yeah nomodeset. but I have low resolution03:45
awc737i can't permanently leave nomodeset right03:45
awc737i should be able to ... detect my gpu or something?03:45
TJ-awc737: Yes, you can. That is used at early boot to do splash screen graphical03:46
onatscjs:  so i just add that line in visudo?03:46
shaneo*dummy output03:46
cjsonats: Yeah. Lemmie check the exact syntax.03:46
TJ-awc737: now you need to focus on what the GPU is, which driver it should use, and get it configured so it auto-detect the resolution of the screens using EDID03:46
awc737ok, its just intel 3000, the most common one in the world prob lol03:47
TJ-awc737: You can add "nomodeset" to "/etc/default/grub" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""03:47
malkaunshow can i expand my desktop to a 2nd display and set the desktop orientation at the same time through commandline03:47
TJ-awc737: and then do "sudo update-grub" to write it to "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"03:47
awc737but shouldnt i try to fix the gpu instead03:47
cjsonats: It needs to go in a Defaults line. I'm not sure of the details without knowing your exact config.03:48
|Anthony|shaneo, check in /var/log/syslog for pulse messages03:48
TJ-awc737: Don't worry about the GPU at early boot... that's only frippary. Sort the GPU driver out for X03:48
shaneook03:48
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|Anthony|shaneo, you could do at terminal cat /var/log/syslog | grep pulse > ~/Documents/pulselog to make it easier on yourself03:49
onatscjs:  found it: Defaults:git !requiretty03:49
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routh_That worked gentlemen, thank you.03:49
cjsonats: Great!03:50
onatscjs:  thanks for the tips03:50
melow01Ubuntu 12.04: somehow I borked my network config. No WiFi or Ethernet but it was working earlier today.03:51
melow01I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces03:51
shaneo|Anthony| all that did was create a blank document03:52
|Anthony|lol03:52
zykotick9melow01: fyi setting stuff in /etc/network/interfaces disables Network-Manager (the default network thing on ubuntu)03:52
melow01zykotick9,03:52
melow01zykotick9, oh... ok03:52
melow01zykotick9, so i should erase all the changes i made?03:53
zykotick9melow01: up to you.03:53
shaneo|Anthony| used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634 and the sound card is back thanks for your help03:53
onatscjs: it works now. that was what was needed03:54
onatsdefaults no tty03:54
jagginessmelow01, interfaces is for ifdownup scripts. You don't look at that. You want to look at nm<> commands like nmcli03:54
awc737is this just me? W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:3128:03:54
melow01jagginess, ok, thanks03:54
melow01I'll tinker with that and see where it gets me03:55
Christop1erNgdoes anyone know of any good video editing software for ubuntu?03:55
Christop1erNgi mean something decent please03:55
Christop1erNgnot some garbage03:55
jagginessmelow01, nm-tool (there's a third on nm<tab><tab>)03:56
awc737TJ-: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?03:56
DominciiHow do I get better at using Ubuntu? I'm a complete noob currently and I understand that I could by all means just come here with every little problem I run into from now on but I figure I'd save you guys some time by researching it myself, could any of you recommend some places I could start?03:57
awc737there are nice books, and youtube series03:57
jagginessDomincii, not really.. well there is books.. but they get outdated by each release..03:57
Cyberspaceloaa lot of the terminal skills in books translate between releases03:58
zykotick9awc737: "Failed to fecth ... 127.0.0.1:3138" are you using apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng?03:58
awc737there was like 10 books last time i went to barnes and noble03:58
jagginessDomincii, the best thing you can do as a start, and know how to spot bugs and report them with launchpad03:58
CyberspaceloaDomincii, I'd basically just browse the forums a lot03:58
DominciiCould you link me to one of the youtube series' please?03:58
DominciiI figured that would be the case, Jagginess, but I just don't understand how people seem to be so fluent with this system03:58
jagginess(or that ubuntu bug report app)03:58
Cyberspaceloaexperiment with installing different things like samba03:59
jordanmJordan_U: and you get me highlighted with !ops!03:59
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awc737zykotick9: neither that I know of...03:59
jagginessDomincii, just use the system.. and with time you learn tips and bits03:59
DominciiRight, I'll take a look in the next book store I go to, could I get some forum recommendations though?03:59
zykotick9awc737: then taht 127.0.0.1 address doesn't make a lot of sense... proxy of some sort?03:59
shantornthere is a new book called ubuntu made easy that came out ib august03:59
jagginessDomincii, wiki.ubuntu.org ?03:59
TJ-awc737: sorry, was busy elsewhere.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT  (the other one is also used for recovery sessions, which don't do graphical splash screens anyhow)03:59
awc737i use a proxy at work, maybe i need to fix something03:59
jagginess(and of course help.ubuntu.com/org )03:59
awc737cntlm... damn03:59
DominciiAwesome, thanks for your time everyone!04:00
awc737thanks zykotick9 forgot about that04:00
melow01jagginess, nmcli nm enable <--?04:01
thufir_I installed xfce4 but only lxde works, selecting xfce just bounces me back to the login screen.  fresh install of 12.0404:03
melow01jagginess, # start network-manager <-- this solved my issue04:04
jagginessmelow01, the documentation is still kind of tough about nm<>, but do you get a list of your network device?04:04
melow01jagginess, I'm not sure how network-manager got disabled.04:04
jagginessmelow01, ?04:04
jagginessmelow01, well when you logon to the desktop, NM is used with dbus.. dbus lets user-level stuff access devices04:05
jagginessmelow01, maybe you dont have gnome-networking installed properly04:05
melow01jagginess, the command from nmcli gave me a table, but all devices were "unknown"04:05
melow01jagginess, now when I run 'nmcli nm' the device is enabled and seems to be work04:06
melow01ing04:06
jagginessmelow01, i'll refrain into getting in details.. i'm still adjusting to using nm<> .. but you don't have to be root to use nm<>04:06
melow01jagginess, oh ok04:06
jagginessmelow01, do you get the netwoking icon or some network display in your gui logob?04:06
jagginess,/logon/04:06
melow01jagginess, yes, nm-applet is working04:07
melow01jagginess, I can ping domains on the internet04:07
edveNeed help come in private04:10
melow01Ok, my wireless is working on eth2 but my wired ethernet doesn't work on eth004:15
melow01actually; eth0 = wired, eth1 = wireless04:16
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jagginessmelow01, dont try to have them connected at the same time :/04:16
Smackbookwhats the name of the thing that pops up when something crashes and asks if you want to send an error report? its called like bitchy or whiney or moaney or something like that04:17
jagginessmelow01, (disable wifi, then try the wired)04:17
melow01jagginess, ok04:17
jagginessSmackbook, apropos bug<enter>, it'll give the name somewhere (terminal)04:17
cdoublejjso after a clean install and just now reinstalling, it locks up just after booting on the desktop, every time. I tried updating the installer and even tried it with out donwloading updates while installing04:17
melow01jagginess, I don't ever remember having a conflict before... I could've sworn I've always had them both on04:18
jagginessmelow01, are you trying to run your own version script to fix this? (let the nm-applet do the networking)04:18
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melow01jagginess, no, i'm not scripting04:19
Smackbookaha! its called whoopsie!04:20
melow01jagginess, just using basic network commands: ifconfig04:20
jagginessmelow01, what's new and ahem (i'm not a big fan of), is the dnsmasq stuff04:20
oscar_hello, i have problems with cryptswap1, some one knows about? can help?04:20
melow01jagginess, you lost me there...04:21
matbeeHey guys, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04LTS to my HP Spectre XT and I'm getting a black screen04:21
jagginessmelow01, was this an upgrade?04:22
matbeeIt's trying to boot via external usb-hd on usb 3.004:22
melow01jagginess, no, clean install04:22
matbeeAny known issues?04:22
jagginessmelow01, this is stupid.. but after 11.10, they added more complexity to the networking, which includes dnsmasq..04:23
melow01matbee, did you configure bios to boot from usb?04:23
melow01jagginess, oh ok04:23
jagginessmelow01, (you see usually dnsmasq is something only for servers, but they added it as a default)04:23
matbeemelow01, It's booting to ubuntu just fine, but when it starts loading any gui it simply goes blank04:23
TJ-!nomodeset | matbee04:24
ubottumatbee: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:24
jagginessmelow01, and essentially your "default" nameserver is 127.0.0.1, perhaps it's not configured well enough to pickup/add nameservers from dhcp.04:24
matbeeThanks TJ-!04:24
melow01jagginess, I'm looking at /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and I see the line: 'dns=dnsmasq'04:25
WHAT_DOWNwhy when i try to uninstall openjdk-7-jdk ap instead wants to install openjdk-6-jdk?04:25
jagginessmelow01, (If it does pickup namservers from eth0 via dhcp, your system still uses 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver, but uses your ISP nameservers as "forwarders" << sound confusing already?)04:25
jagginessmelow01, exactly04:25
melow01jagginess, should I remove it?04:25
jagginessmelow01, hmm dont think so..04:25
jagginessmelow01, not sure what else you would use there04:25
melow01jagginess, ok04:26
jagginessmelow01, but if you use nslookup, what nameserver does it say it's using?04:26
jagginess(with wifi off, and wired on)04:26
jagginessmelow01, dnsmasq is quite configurable, if there's no .conf in /etc/dnsmasq.conf , then probably a sample from /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq04:27
jagginessmelow01, and it's well commented04:28
jagginessmelow01, (the sample file itself is very well commented)04:28
melow01jagginess, thanks. nslookup returns 127.0.0.1, loopback04:29
* Guddu_ is puzzled...How do i create a new icon on Ubuntu desktop? Install GNOME Panel and run a command at the prompt? Isn't it too much?04:30
TJ-jagginess: melow01 NetworkManager runs an instance of dnsmasq under its control, in the foreground, as user 'nobody' You can find the config file at "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf" ... also, try "ps -efly | grep dnsmasq" to see the instance started by NM and its options04:30
TJ-jagginess: melow01 "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf" usually contains 1 or 2 "nameserver" lines - which come from dhclient's DHCP OFFER04:31
* Guddu_ is puzzled...How do i create a new icon on Ubuntu desktop? Install GNOME Panel and run a command at the prompt? Isn't it too much?04:31
WeThePeopleguddu_, right click and select 'make launcher' or somthin04:31
Guddu_WeThePeople, Have you tried doing that yourself? :)04:31
Guddu_That option is not there.04:31
jagginessTJ-, dont edit .conf in /var/run, the proper .conf would have to be in /etc04:31
Guddu_And yes....I wished it was that easy....04:31
melow01matbee, sorry, the gui issue is beyond me, maybe someone else can help  ya04:31
WeThePeopleguddu_, what distro04:32
TJ-jagginess: No, you don't edit it! But that's the file that contains the active nameservers04:32
Guddu_WeThePeople, 12.04 kinda sucks....Especially Each time when a straight forward thing as this requires me to get on to google :(04:32
jagginessTJ-, yes, I already explained that to him, the nameservers come from the dhcp offer04:32
jagginessTJ-, you can edit the dnsmasq .conf that's in /etc .04:32
jagginess^04:32
WeThePeopleguddu_, lol thats why i am still using 10.0404:33
jagginess(if its not there, there should be a sample around /usr/share/dnsmasq/)04:33
Guddu_WeThePeople, :)04:33
TJ-jagginess: That config won't affect interfaces managed by NetworkManager04:33
Ben64you could also use kubuntu or lubuntu or xubuntu04:33
melow01/etc/dnsmasq.conf <-- doesn't exist on my distro04:33
* jagginess -_-04:33
Guddu_I wonder what went on in the head of the designers/developers/architects that they came up with Unity :(04:33
Guddu_Seriously04:33
jagginessmelow01, because its not there, doesnt mean it cant be used. (theres a SAMPLE SOMEWHERE)04:33
jagginess(and in UBUNTU)04:34
melow01jagginess,04:34
* jagginess is currently not on ubuntu linux04:34
melow01jagginess, ok04:34
jagginessok i'm powering on a remote ubuntu linux here04:34
Ben64Guddu_: bit OT, but Linus has similar concerns04:34
Guddu_Ben64, R u on Unity?04:35
Ben64Guddu_: no04:35
Guddu_I hate it when end-users call me to ask....How do i add another shortcut on the desktop :(04:35
DaemonicApathyGuddu_: Why do end-users call you?04:36
WeThePeopleguddu_, http://www.geekyboy.com/archives/38404:36
THEJOLLYGRIMREAPhello04:37
Guddu_DaemonicApathy, So that I can create another shortcut on desktop for them :( LOL04:37
melow01jagginess, found it: /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example04:37
THEJOLLYGRIMREAPi got a ubuntu 10.04 installation here, whats the easier quickest way of installing java?04:37
TJ-melow01: The way it works is, NM launches dnsmasq listening on 127.0.0.1 with its config at "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf". When DHCP provides DNS sever addresses they are written into that file. The system's glibc resolver always uses 127.0.0.1 which dnsmasq is serving, and it forwards/caches requests to the nameserver's listed in the file.04:37
Guddu_WeThePeople, Thanks....That what I am doing at the moment...Running a command to launch a create launcher panel :(04:38
melow01TJ-, thanks04:38
jagginess/usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example04:38
Guddu_THEJOLLYGRIMREAP, Quickest way is to just install it without thinking twice...04:38
jagginessi'm on a 12.04 ubuntu system here.04:38
Guddu_U r looking at installing JRE?04:38
jagginessmelow01  "."04:38
melow01jagginess, same here04:38
jagginessso you dont know how to use the "cd" command ?04:39
jagginesstsk04:39
jagginessmelow01, TJ- /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example04:39
TJ-melow01: If the nameservers listed in that file are the ones provided by DHCP (which you can check by looking in /var/log/syslog) then local DNS is configured correctly04:39
Guddu_THEJOLLYGRIMREAP, Here is a link that u can read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java04:39
melow01TJ-, thing is... I don't think DHCP is working on eth0 since I don't have an IP address04:40
jagginessmelow01, and if the nameservers arent picked up properly with dnsmasq, there's a .conf file there (which i mentioned a while ago-- but the dnsmasq.conf file is LONG)04:40
melow01jagginess, ya, I opened the conf file... its long indeed04:40
TJ-Here's Stephane's original article on the switch to dnsmaq for resolving: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/04:41
jagginessmelow01, you just check the "lease" on your router box04:41
melow01jagginess, ...and its almost past my bedtime04:41
TJ-melow01: If there's no IP offer... check what's shown in /var/log/syslog. NM logs copiously there04:41
coon_can someone help me with a minor problem04:41
jagginessmelow01, , there's the server= directive04:42
melow01TJ-, ok04:42
jagginessmelow01,  as well as no-dhcp-interface directive as well04:42
jagginessmelow01,  but you should be able to use the nameservers field in the gui  if you know you're setting a static ip04:42
jagginess(again see if there's a lease, you can even use "tcpdump" to see if port 68/69 is being used, and there will be offer/release commentaries)04:43
melow01TJ-, jagginess thanks guys for the help but this is getting over my head in jargon. My wired and wireless were working earlier today and for some reason they are not working now.04:43
TJ-melow01: Get some sleep, try again tomorrow!04:44
melow01TJ-, jagginess It must have been something I installed04:44
jagginessmelow01, dunno.. i can check something..04:44
melow01TJ-, jagginess I also have a feeling it might be the sleep function when I closed the lid on my netbook, not sure though04:44
TJ-melow01: You didn't add any manual entries to /etc/network/interfaces ?04:44
TJ-melow01: sometimes a full cold power-off and restart solves things04:45
jagginessnm..04:45
jagginessTJ-, that's for ifdownup scripts.04:45
jagginessTJ-, not for NM, unless he configures NM to have ifdownup work on its own04:45
DaemonicApathymelow01: You did power cycle the router already, right?04:45
coon__can people see me04:45
DaemonicApathyNo, coon__.04:45
coon__lol thx04:46
TJ-jagginess: I was wondering if NM was confused and only half-managing the i/f. But as I said earlier, "/var/log/syslog" will reveal all04:46
lotuspsychjehowto debug flash issues on terminal?04:46
jagginessTJ-, I think nm starts forcibly..04:46
lobhaterwhat is the off topic channel?04:46
lotuspsychje!ot | lobhater04:46
ubottulobhater: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:46
lobhaterthanks04:47
jagginessTJ-, so if he should check /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf04:47
* jagginess remembers NM starts forcibly04:47
melow01DaemonicApathy, funny you mention power cycle... I power cycled the router yesterday04:47
TJ-jagginess: It starts from upstart... but NM will avoid any i/f listed in 'interfaces' - if that PC has suspended and things changed in the meanwhile it wouldn't be too hard to imagine NM getting confused :)04:47
jagginessTJ-, it doesnt.04:47
jagginessTJ-, see the manpage.04:47
DaemonicApathymelow01: Does that just happen to be about the time the problem started?04:48
melow01TJ-, jagginess I've also rebooted multiple times since the sleep04:48
jagginessTJ-, the "interfaces" is part of ifdownup. and NM can be configured to have ifdownup work, but you'll have to set it to on in the <Nm.conf> file04:48
jagginess(man NetworkManager.conf)04:49
melow01DaemonicApathy, I believe networking was working after the router reboot, I know it was working when I was at work today, but when I came home (after closing the lid), the network stopped working alltogether04:49
jagginessso far as i know, for melow01's problem it can be anywhere from a physical wiring problem to anything above04:50
melow01DaemonicApathy, I also installed Java JDK, Android SDK, etc...04:50
DaemonicApathyjagginess: I concur.04:50
DaemonicApathymelow01, I don't see how those would affect much.04:50
jagginessmelow01, you using a "switch" between the PC and the router? sometimes those things are cheap and need a power-replugging  (this happens to me once every few weeks)04:51
melow01DaemonicApathy, jagginess I'll check the wiring but I highly doubt it. I'll just stick to the wireless. I just thought I'd check both connections while I was at it.04:51
jagginessmelow01, you need to have the wifi on off, (you dont want to worry about setting up the default route)04:52
melow01jagginess, I'm using a simple "All in one" router/switch/phone/tv device from my ISP04:52
jagginessmelow01, (wifi->off when trying wired)04:52
melow01jagginess, yes, WiFi is off04:52
* melow01 is crawling under his desk to switch ethernet cables... brb04:53
DaemonicApathyAnd ports, of course.04:54
* lotuspsychje hands over a scissor to melow0104:54
TJ-jagginess: if "managed=false" (which is the default setting), NM won't manage an interface listed in "/etc/network/interfaces" - that's what I was referring to.04:54
melow01haha04:55
TJ-Bad connection? kicked it?04:55
DaemonicApathyHaha is good...04:55
TJ-probably wrapped the cable around his foot :p04:55
melow01ok, I'm chatting with you on the same cable that was just plugged into my netbook04:55
DaemonicApathyEscellent. :-)04:55
melow01both my cables are good - desktop and netbook04:55
jagginessTJ-, you also have to use a mac-address with  [keyfile], unmanaged-devices=04:55
* melow01 crawls back under his desk to put cables back...04:56
jagginessTJ-, to the two above directives, this if for letting ifdownup handle that interface04:56
TJ-jagginess: no you don't! I use the interfaces files regularly to stop NM handling a device.04:56
ayawaskaanyone know off the top of their head the recommended configure/make flags for ubuntu?04:56
jagginess(and plugins= has to contain ifdownup in the [main] section)04:57
ayawaskalet's say I wanted to create .deb packages from source04:57
melow01DaemonicApathy, jagginess, TJ- dmesg: eth0: no IPv6 routers present04:57
TJ-melow01: pastebin /var/log/syslog for us - then we can actually *help* !04:58
DaemonicApathyI don't think anyone has rolled out ipv6 yet anyway.04:58
Ben64some have04:58
jagginessTJ-, well you probably arent using it liek you think you are (dbus is probably already doing it hehehe)04:58
TJ-jagginess: I think I know my own networks!04:58
DaemonicApathyBen64: Really? What ISP has?04:58
melow01TJ-, ok04:58
jagginessTJ-, you're saying you can avoid "loading" NM on startup?04:58
jagginessTJ-, you're using NM/gtk-dbus to turn on your network04:59
cloudgeekMy system voice is dragmaticly very low , Ubuntu 12.04 (Dell-inspiron) , can help did i need to install driver or what else ! a04:59
jagginessTJ-, you have to edit that NM.conf file properly to have the interfaces file work04:59
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:define 'low'04:59
TJ-jagginess: NM is started by upstart, it avoids managing any interface listed in 'interfaces' file - that's the default config05:00
cloudgeekMy system speakers are not working! and when i switch to a headphone , then i can listen videos but voice is very low in comparsion to previous days.like now voice is just 30 % of last time!05:01
cloudgeeklotuspsychje: hope you able to understand my problem! else shall i need explain  more!05:01
melow01TJ-, DaemonicApathy jagginess, thanks for you help but i gotta pass out. i'll pick it up tomorrow05:01
Ben64DaemonicApathy: i get ipv6 from verizon wireless on LTE05:02
TJ-melow01: sleep well :)05:02
melow01TJ-, jagginess, I hope I didn't start a holy war between you two05:02
melow01TJ-, jagginess, haha05:02
* melow01 laters05:02
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:did you clean install precise?05:02
TJ-melow01: Get us that syslog, and we'll sort it!05:02
DaemonicApathyBen64: That's interesting, thanks for the info.05:02
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:maybe restart pulseaudio?05:03
TJ-I'm in the process of switching my networks over to IPv6 ... made more interesting by a VPN tunnel to one of my severs in a data-center05:03
cloudgeeklotuspsychje: nope ,but i need to check? i can paste some information , if want so you can anlysis what actually happen ?05:03
DaemonicApathyTJ-: Good luck with that, should be fun. :-)05:03
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:did you upgrade to precise?05:04
TJ-DaemonicApathy: I'm expecting it to take a few weeks!05:04
DaemonicApathyTJ-: Well...yeah... ^_^05:04
cloudgeeklotuspsychje: no working with precise since last 2 months05:04
TJ-DaemonicApathy: I've got to figure out multi-path :s05:04
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:yes but clean installed or upgraded?05:04
Ben65see, ipv6 on verizon05:05
DaemonicApathyTJ-: I'm not giving you any hints. It's so much better to figure out for yourself.05:05
cloudgeeklotuspsychje: I done only apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade only05:05
Ben64OrgName:        Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless05:05
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:its highly recommended to clean install precise 12.04.105:05
lotuspsychjecloudgeek:might worth a try to reset audio05:06
lotuspsychjebbl05:06
cloudgeeklotuspsychje: okay, let e see it05:06
TJ-cloudgeek: So, is this correct? The sound was OK, you did some minor package updates, and sound is now very quiet and no speakers?05:06
cloudgeekTJ-: sound working better in headphones but no sound in speakers?05:07
TJ-cloudgeek: but the important point is, this happened only after some minor updates?05:08
cloudgeekTJ-: so what i can do now, I am not able listen my lecture! I using headphones since last 2 hour.05:08
* TJ- is sure he's typing with invisible ink!05:09
cloudgeekTJ-: can you specify what package i need to install or shall i need to clean any one !05:09
cloudgeekI also build gcc, octave ,r and scilab on my system, it is diffcult to clean this for me!05:10
* DaemonicApathy thought he heard something from TJ's direction.05:12
TJ-A strangled cry maybe :p05:12
TJ-It's 06:12 here; I've been up 24 hours. I'm not well :)05:12
BaylorRaeI'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu 12.0.4.1 with OS X 10.7 and when booting from the CD it has been flashing an underscore for ~20 minutes. I know they said it takes a long time, but is this normal?05:13
HaltingState2OMFG05:14
HaltingState2i just rebooted and my launcher icons are FSCKING huge05:14
TJ-BaylorRae: No not normal at all. Did you get anything on-screen before it got stuck there?05:14
HaltingState2i want them small05:14
HaltingState2i am in unity 2d05:15
DaemonicApathyInstall compizconfig-settings-manager, go under Unity, adjust icon size.05:15
BaylorRaeTJ-: IIRC it opend rEFIt and I selected boot from CD05:15
HaltingState2DaemonicApathy, unity 2d05:15
DaemonicApathyAh, sorry, selective oversight.05:15
TJ-BaylorRae: Sounds like it doesn't like the CD then... did you do an md5sum check of the CD after burning it?05:16
BaylorRaeTJ-: No, only after downloading the .iso05:16
DaemonicApathyHaltingState2: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/how-to-change-unity-2d-launcher-icon-size-with-a-script might help.05:16
wilee-nileeHaltingState2, I would not get used to synonyms of swearwords here is is prohibited05:17
TJ-BaylorRae: It's worth doing... knowing you have an uncorrupted CD is half the battle05:17
wilee-nileeit*05:17
HaltingState2wilee-nilee, I would stop breaking ubuntu with updates05:17
HaltingState2I am on a work computer and it keeps breaking every new version05:17
HaltingState2sublime and blender and now i reboot and my taskbar is huge05:17
BaylorRaeTJ-: what is the MD5 I should compare to? Is the the same one I used for the .iso?05:18
HaltingState2someone made the decision to take out the task bar too ;so i cant navigate between open programs; i had to install gnomebar05:18
TJ-BaylorRae: Let me test my fu powers with the bot... hang on05:18
TJ-!md5sum | BaylorRae05:18
ubottuBaylorRae: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:18
HaltingState2why do i have to run a script to change the size of launcher icons!?05:19
TJ-BaylorRae: The same technique can be used to test the burned CD, although if you're doing it from OSX, I can't help you with how to address the CDROM drive05:19
DaemonicApathyHaltingState2: Because Unity2d is missing some of the nicer features that allow customization.05:22
BaylorRaeTJ-: ubottu: where can I find the MD5 for 12.0.4.1?05:22
HaltingState2DaemonicApathy, i have to run unity 2d because the main unity is completely broken05:22
HaltingState2why did my icon size change on reboot!?05:22
TJ-BaylorRae: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/05:23
DaemonicApathyHaltingState2: I understand - I was only answering your question.05:23
BaylorRaeTJ-: Okay, I the comparison returned false. Was I supposed to check against the .iso file or is there a different one I should use?05:24
TJ-If you've compared against the downloaded ISO and its wrong, then that is enough. If the ISO is good, check against the CD itself05:24
TJ-BaylorRae: If the local ISO  is bad, it must have been corrupted during download, so it'll need downloading afresh05:25
BaylorRaeTJ-: the downloaded .iso checked out fine, but it looks like the CD is corrupt. Does that sound right?05:27
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DaemonicApathyBaylorRae: Time to burn another.05:27
TJ-Yes... often burning does fail... sometimes bad disk, sometimes a dusty burner!05:27
BaylorRaeDaemonicApathy: okay, will do05:27
TJ-Well I'm handing over to Boston MA ... Nottingham, UK is going to sleep :)05:28
DaemonicApathy>_>05:28
b636bc7caIs it OK to ask here for software suggestions to fit a specific problem?05:28
HackinBlackNo i do not believe it is05:29
DominciiWhy are so few games available on linux?05:29
HackinBlackBecause game developers are blind05:29
DaemonicApathyDomincii: Don't you mean so few *good* games?05:29
lotuspsychjeb636bc7ca:if its ubuntu related05:29
Dominciiyes, DaemonicApathy, I suppose you are right05:29
DaemonicApathyDomincii: Steam is coming to Linux. Be patient.05:29
HackinBlackDemincii Dual boot with windows 7 for steam. But i hear Steam will be coming to linux soon05:30
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lotuspsychjeguys lets keep to topic05:30
DominciiHackinBlack, I can't afford to purchase an OS, part of the reason I'm running Ubuntu05:30
DominciiI seem to be getting major compatibility problems though05:30
HackinBlackDomincii So cant i. That is why they made thepiratebay ;p05:30
DominciiEven when using Wine or POL05:31
Dominciithepiratebay is offline05:31
DominciiThey were raided today05:31
HackinBlackNo its not05:31
lotuspsychje!ot05:31
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lotuspsychjeguys lets keep ubuntu related..please05:31
cloudgeekhow i can that!wolform alfa is crated in which langauage! like facebook in php, Google in python.Is there any way to findout!or any specific IRC realted to this kind stuff!05:32
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HackinBlackwhaaaaaaat you are kidding domincii?05:32
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HackinBlackhello?05:40
fitzweeeeeeeeeeeee chat05:43
f00dMonstaanyone know if there is something I can do about folder sizes in nautilus not updating after I delete some stuff from within the folder?05:45
f00dMonstalike I would alt-enter to check a folder's size, say 37.8Mb. Then I delete a bunch of stuff inside of it, and when I check folder size again, it hasn't changed and is still 37.8Mb05:46
zxq你们好05:47
DominciiI just saw someone leaving the car park next to my house to go to work, I've not been to bed yet, feels bad.05:52
grendal_primeok can someone help me iron out this ntp issue05:59
grendal_primeive done everything i can think of to work this out...05:59
actionParsnipgrendal_prime: wassup?05:59
grendal_primeim still like 2 hours off..and nothing seems to work05:59
grendal_primei have ntp installed.05:59
grendal_primegot two servers...setup...first off this is 12 04 server06:00
actionParsnipgrendal_prime: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com06:00
grendal_primewith like 4 vlans on it.  KVM server06:00
grendal_primeya ntpdate not installed hold on06:00
grendal_prime 2 Oct 00:53:19 ntpdate[11797]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting06:01
grendal_primeso now i kill ntp06:01
grendal_primeok now its right..but..i keep reading that this is the wrong way of doing this cause ntpdate only runs at system start06:03
grendal_primeso i need to set up ntp  to check the pool and calculate drift and...you know all that crap..but it straight up does not work06:03
uczenbonżur06:04
timfrostgrendal_prime: can that system access the ntp servers that are configured, on the ntp port (UDP 123)?06:06
grendal_primeits making me crazy....umm crazyer and im almost out of wine06:06
grendal_primetimfrost, well im not blocking anything outbound06:07
grendal_primei got the list of servers i have from the ubuntu website.06:07
grendal_primeso...i mean i dont know what else could be wrong.06:07
grendal_primei do get this....06:07
grendal_primentpd exiting on signal 1506:08
grendal_primeits crazy...and i got a werid other thing i have to look at tonight.   i dont know06:11
grendal_primeif i drink more i can get lost between here and the house...and then..just sleep under the trampline06:11
grendal_primecrap i typed that didnt i06:11
cjsgrendal_prime: What does "ntpdc -p" say?06:12
grendal_primehold please06:12
grendal_primeread: Connection refused06:13
grendal_primebut its turne off right now06:13
cjsThat command queries a running ntpd.06:13
grendal_primeso that is not really very ...well  unexpected06:13
grendal_primeyou want i should turn the ntpd back on first?06:14
cjsYup.06:14
grendal_primefunny question06:14
grendal_primelists two servers06:14
grendal_prime=ec2-50-16-231-1 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.09334 -8.872619 2.8173506:14
grendal_prime=europium.canoni 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.16257 -8.862274 2.8173506:15
grendal_primeby the way..i have done this before.06:15
cjsSo looks like you're eight seconds off there with your local time.06:15
grendal_primedamn it...I KNEW IT!!!06:15
grendal_primejk06:15
cjsSo if you shut down ntpd, do an ntpdate against either of those servers, and then bring back up ntpd, what's your output look like then?06:16
grendal_primeso..thats acceptable as far as im concerned06:16
cjsActually, being that far off indicates fairly serious problems.06:16
grendal_primethe problem i had was i was 2 hours off before06:16
grendal_primeok well cjs, this is the problem im not able to wrap my head around...why is this so damn difficult?06:17
grendal_primeseems like ntp should be...you put in the list of servers you want to adjust agains..and wham...06:18
cjsTime synchronization over an unreliable network is an inherently difficult problem. :-)06:18
grendal_primeit use to work just fine.06:18
grendal_primeim on comcast06:18
grendal_prime30 meg download06:18
grendal_prime12 up06:18
grendal_primepretty sure that aint the issue06:18
cjsAnyway, NTP doesn't generally just bump the time by huge amounts; it tries to slide it smoothly if it can. It also tries to deal with clock drift and things like that.06:19
grendal_primei keep thinking its firewall related but...ive looked through that a 100+ times06:19
cjsAnyway, how does it look after an ntpdate?06:19
grendal_primehold please06:20
grendal_prime=europium.canoni 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.16637 -0.243577 2.8173506:21
grendal_prime=clock01.sctn01. 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.10144 -0.254296 2.8173506:21
cjsWow, that far out already. Give it a minute and check ntpdc -p again; did it drift a lot more?06:21
antonio_aloha folks...06:21
antonio_Anyone here in the #wine channel?06:22
grendal_primeim about out of wine06:22
timfrostgrendal_prime:is this a VM?06:22
grendal_primeno this is the vm host06:22
cjsgenewitch: You may need something stronger than that by the time you're done with this NTP thing. :-)06:22
cjsOops, that was for grendal_prime .06:22
grendal_primewell the rum..well its just gone...wich is a good thing really  ..well for now06:23
grendal_primedid i mention im an actual registerd pirate?  I really fence...i also fly planes.   grrrr...ntp06:24
grendal_primeand i have adhd06:24
cjsSo has it drifted further?06:24
grendal_primelets not get off topic here...06:24
timfrostgrendal_prime: cjs: can't blame guest time drift if it is the host :(06:24
cjstimfrost: Oh, good point.06:24
grendal_primeand its very much the host06:24
cjsSo you are in a VM. Are you the owner of the host, as well as the guest?06:25
Guest92282hi06:25
cjsOh, wait, I just re-read that: this is the host OS with the issue, not a guest, right?06:25
grendal_primeno im loged into the HOST06:25
Guest92282go game06:25
cjsOk, fine. Anyway, how much drift now?06:25
cjss/drift/offset/06:25
grendal_primei have simalar problem with the guests..but i figued id start with the host first06:25
cjsYes, that was a good plan.06:26
grendal_primesince my plan was to point the vms to the host06:26
lotuspsychje!cups > lotuspsychje06:27
ubottulotuspsychje, please see my private message06:27
hackinblackhello06:27
bustacapHas anyone had a problem adding a city to the weather indicator app? When I reach the last step and click done it just jams up on me :/06:27
grendal_primeya im pretty ground down on this at this point.  i guess i can just cron out the ntpdate...even thought everyone says "ARRRRG THATS A TERRIBLE WAY OF DEALING WITH THIS!"06:27
DominciiChromium or Firefox? which is better?06:28
lotuspsychjeguys whats that http to print tru cups?06:28
hackinblackfirefox06:28
Hatoridomincii..define better, thats very relative things06:28
grendal_primechrom tell it dont work.06:28
hackinblackbut chromium seems a bit faster at times06:28
cjsDomincii: Both are equally good at starting flame wars when used in conjunction with the other. :-)06:28
somsiplotuspsychje: :63106:28
grendal_primethen firefox...(and that will happen)06:28
somsiplotuspsychje: localhost:63106:28
lotuspsychjesomsip:tnx06:28
grendal_primeadp site does not work with chrom.06:29
cjsDomincii: If you're asking what you should use, I'd start with chromium and see how you like it. It's generally a bit faster and a bit more secure. But if things about the UI start to bug you, try Firefox.06:29
grendal_primenot last time tried anyway.06:29
DominciiHaha I figured as much cjs, I was thinking in terms of general speed, useful apps, and reliability not to crash etc06:29
cjsDomincii: Well, chrome rendering processes crash way more often that Firefox ever did for me, but on the other hand that doesn't crash the browser itself; you can just go back and reload the page.06:30
grendal_primei like things in chrom..but reality is..some things just do not work..and when you need to fill out your time card...well..keep firefox handy and updated06:30
DominciiRighto, from the sounds of it there really isn't much in it, I guess it's mainly a preferential thing then?06:30
grendal_primecause chrom will be a big fat BLOW IT on that .06:30
cjs After many years with Firefox I tried out Chromium myself, and after a few months I'd pretty much switched to it completely.  It's got its annoyances, but the convenience seems to outweigh those for me.06:30
cjsYeah, I still keep firefox around.06:31
DominciiIf so I guess I'll try 'em both, thanks for the input everyone!06:31
hackinblackChrom is the bad way to go. Firefox06:32
grendal_primei remember when it was all mozilla. but im friggin old and i dont seem to even understand ntp anymore06:32
hackinblackis the good side06:32
cjsI remember moving from Mosaic to Netscape Navigator.06:33
grendal_primeyep me to..didnt want to mention that though.06:33
grendal_primereally dates me06:33
cjsHeh.06:33
hackinblackI remember moving from dsll to cable.06:33
grendal_primeremember trumpet?06:33
cjsIt was the upgrade from gopher to WWW that was the really big one for me. Everything after that is just an incremental improvement.06:33
cjsOh, yeah, trumpet winsock. This is seriously heading towards #ubuntu-offtopic.06:34
woot-0854I remember netscape06:34
DaemonicApathycjs: Re: FF~>Chromium: Same thing with me and Window vs Ubuntu.06:34
grendal_primebut what if im still using it?06:34
woot-0854#puppylinux06:35
woot-0854mt sry06:35
DaemonicApathyPuppy is useful for older systems.06:35
grendal_primeso are trashcans06:35
woot-0854lucid uses ubuntu :)06:35
grendal_primeoops sorry ...recycle bins06:36
grendal_primealright im going to bed..06:36
woot-0854night | grendal_prime06:36
hackinblackplease stay on topic guys06:36
woot-0854but wait06:36
grendal_primewell...after a few more songs06:36
hackinblack!ot06:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:36
woot-0854grendal_prime: ot"06:36
woot-0854grendal_prime: I have an ot question to ask06:37
grendal_primeot?06:37
woot-0854off-topic06:37
hackinblackgrendal_prime | !ot06:37
woot-0854can you join ubuntu-offtopic w/me for one question?06:37
DaemonicApathyOther way, hackinblack.06:37
manir#kanchilug06:39
DaemonicApathyDo you mean "/join #kanchilug" ?06:40
mani_i need help on pyqt and pymedia06:40
rrajbeHi, Is there any way to read mount permissions of a mount point using linux System C programming?06:40
Hatorirrajbe06:41
Hatoriyes, linux provides all of them06:41
cjsrrajbe: You mean, the information in /etc/fstab? The way the mount program interprets that is about the only thing that's really "mount permissions."06:41
cjs(By this I assume you mean, permission to mount and unmount filesystems at various places in the directory tree.)06:42
rrajbeJust 'mount' in CLI gives /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)06:42
rrajbeI would like to read the permissions to the mount point like r,w mode06:42
cjsOh, you want information about a filesystem that's currently mounted?06:43
rrajbeyes. Like display all persmissions of mounted filesystems.06:43
cjsWhat do you mean by "permissions"?06:43
woot-0854rrajbe: type mount in terminal06:43
mani_is there any application created using pymedia?06:44
rrajbeYes. I can do it in terminal. Even if i do "cat /proc/mounts " i will get same.06:44
rrajbeBut what i am looking is some system call like opendir()06:44
actionParsniprrajbe: doesn't 'exec' command in C run shell commands, the output may be capturable06:45
cjsrrajbe: You want to read /proc/mounts.06:45
cjsactionParsnip: You're thinking of the "system()" function.06:45
woot-0854or fstab or just less | mount]06:45
actionParsnipoh yeah06:45
woot-0854not ]06:45
rrajbecjs: anything possible other than reading the /proc/mounts content and parsing the information?06:46
cjswoot-0854: fstab is not what's mounted, it's a description what can be mounted. Maybe you're thinking of /etc/mtab?06:46
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cjsrrajbe: Possibly you could interrogate things with sysctl or something like that, but I do believe that reading and parsing /proc/mounts is the canonical interface for this.06:47
woot-0854cjs: you are right.  I normally look at fstab for how it was mounted. but mtab contains mounted info06:47
cjsNot to mention almost certainly the easiest way of doing this.06:47
rrajbecjs: Thanks. :) Will read more.06:47
cjsrrajbe: Getting this sort of information from the kernel into other programs is in fact exactly what /proc was designed for.06:48
rrajbeIm looking to check all mount points which are in 'ro' mode.06:49
cjsAnd trust me, it's a lot nicer than sysctl(). :-)06:49
cjsI'm suspecting that the first two letters of the fourth field are always 'rw' or 'ro', so it's actually a pretty trivial parsing job in C if you trust them never to put a space in a pathname. (Though how they'd avoid that, I'm not sure.)06:51
cjsAh, they're not complete idiots after all. Here you go: a device mounted on "/This is bad!":06:53
cjs/dev/sdb1 /This\040is\040bad! vfat rw,...06:54
woot-0854cjs: /This\ is\ bad! <-- would this work as an alternative to 040?06:56
geirhawoot-0854: No, fstab(5) specifically says you must use \040 to represent a space06:57
cjswoot-0854: What I'm showing is what the kernel give you back when you query /proc/mounts. Nothing to do with how you specify it to the mount command.06:57
woot-0854:)06:57
cjsI in fact used <<< mount /dev/sdb1 "/This is bad!" >> myself.06:57
geirhaah, with the mount command, you can use regular shell quoting, yes.06:58
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manirpyqt and pymedia is simple applications ?07:00
linociscohttp://summit.open-xchange.com/ is cool07:01
linociscohttp://summit.open-xchange.com/ looks cool. ANybody tried it . Zimbra vs OpenXchange ??07:01
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bodhigod07:08
bodhihello07:08
bodhiin the07:08
DominciiHey07:08
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gaelfxis there a way to remove all the packages installed as the result of a certain apt-get command without typing them all in by hand from the history.log?07:15
actionParsnipgaelfx: if you remove a package and the others are no longer needed, they will be marked for removal07:16
de_http://pastebin.com/jpWwsw8P07:16
de_the problem is that it does not come inside do loop07:16
gaelfxactionParsnip: even if I installed xubuntu-desktop and it installed things like abiword and whatnot?07:16
de_any help07:16
de_it comes till echo "start2222222222 $count"07:18
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somsipde_: you probably need to ask in the #bash channel07:18
actionParsnipgaelfx: no, removing the meta package only removes the meta package07:20
hackinblack.ud butthurt07:20
hackinblackno butthurt?07:20
actionParsnipgaelfx: if you run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep xfce | awk {'print $2'}`07:20
actionParsnipgaelfx: it will remove all the packages with XFCE in07:21
bazhang!ot | hackinblack07:21
ubottuhackinblack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:21
louifirst time ever on irc07:23
louiomg i cant believed07:23
actionParsniploui: welcome to ubuntu support07:23
subdesignhow to extract .bin iso image?07:23
actionParsnipsubdesign: why are you extracting it at all?07:23
gaelfxman, I should make a script or a little app to undo this sort of thing07:24
subdesigni usually archive movie files on dvd not iso thats why07:24
nibbler_de_, why not just convert it to da for i in $(seq 1000 1100); do loop?07:24
actionParsnipsubdesign: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html07:25
subdesignok checking, thx07:25
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subdesignactionParsnip, bchunk worked, cheers07:30
XiaolinDraconisThe shortcut "Page down" cannot be used because it will become impossible to type using this key.07:30
XiaolinDraconisPlease try with a key such as Control, Alt or Shift at the same time.07:30
actionParsnipsubdesign: np07:31
XiaolinDraconishow would this make it impossible to type???07:31
chris_hello07:32
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: if you don't use pageDN, then you could assign it07:33
XiaolinDraconisXiaolinDraconis, i was trying to assign it to volume control07:33
XiaolinDraconiswtf07:33
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, ^07:34
mimmo92ciAO07:34
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: then use SuperL + PageUp etc07:34
mimmo92hello07:34
Blue1howdy tex07:34
chris_Now I am using xubuntu07:34
chris_xubuntu07:34
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XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, i have a script that uses xmodmap to make R_Alt my spacebar07:35
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, would you know what vol up and down would be referred to using this07:35
XiaolinDraconisxmodmap -e "remove mod1 = Alt_R"07:36
XiaolinDraconisxmodmap -e "keysym Alt_R = space"07:36
XiaolinDraconisis how i currently achieve the spacebar mod07:37
somsipXiaolinDraconis: I have keys mapped to functions like this, but within the window manager rather than in xmodmap which is purely to remap keys IIRC. I use the command "amixer -q sset Master 2+" to increase volume  and 2- to decrease07:39
Ben64somsip: I do a similar thing. except mine does "amixer -c 0 set Master 1+ unmute"07:41
somsipBen64: do you do it in a way that might help XiaolinDraconis?07:41
Ben64my keyboard has multimedia keys for it that I use]07:41
Ben64not sure if it would work on pgup,pgdown07:42
somsipBen64: k - leave it to him to followup if that helps him07:42
XiaolinDraconisi dont understand what amixer is07:42
Ben64XiaolinDraconis: I do it in gconf, /desktop/gnome/keybindings/07:42
somsipXiaolinDraconis: it controls the volume, which is what you were asking about07:42
XiaolinDraconisgconf that should work07:43
XiaolinDraconisthanks guys07:43
somsipXiaolinDraconis: np07:44
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XiaolinDraconiswould one of you take a screenshot of the gconf on that07:46
XiaolinDraconisplease07:46
somsipXiaolinDraconis: I don't use gconf and i think Ben64 is gone07:47
XiaolinDraconisindeed he has07:47
Shadow`_ok so why cant i remove an installed package07:47
* Shadow`_ sighs go ubuntu07:47
XiaolinDraconismore details get quicker responses07:48
actionParsnipShadow`_: whathappens when you try?07:48
Shadow`_well php5 is installed, but somehow without mysqli, so i gotta redo it, or wanna try at least. aptitude/apt-get remove php5 will give me a 'package is not installed', package is right there in /etc/php5, i can execute php on the commandline and apache still loads php pages07:49
actionParsnipShadow`_: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep php5    please use a pastebin or pipe to pastebinit :)07:50
Shadow`_libapache2-mod-php5, php5-cli, php5-common07:50
Shadow`_ah07:50
actionParsnipShadow`_: that's not the full output07:50
Shadow`_ye want version nrs and describtion too?07:51
Shadow`_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.407:51
actionParsnipShadow`_: if you run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dpkg -l | grep php5 | pastebinit       what is output>07:51
Shadow`_what i just told u minus the 'ii' and package description07:52
Shadow`_u srsly need the package description?07:52
mtrd`wHello! Is there a way to bind commands to keyboard shortcuts using command line ?07:52
actionParsnipShadow`_: i'd like the full output please07:52
Shadow`_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255462/07:53
Shadow`_the same what i just told ya -.-07:53
actionParsnipShadow`_: thanks07:53
actionParsnipShadow`_: yes, if you'd just given that when I asked rather than me asking loads of times, we could have been here a while ago07:53
actionParsnipShadow`_: /etc/php5 is the old config, its not the app itself.07:54
lsj8924怎么立07:54
lsj8924怎么加入ubuntu中国07:54
b636bc7caI am looking for a tool to manage/monitor several hundred cronjobs (ownership info, per-job status, failure reporting); ideally, packaged for Ubuntu (although I'm certainly flexible on that) - anyone seen something like this?07:54
somsip!zh | lsj892407:55
ubottulsj8924: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:55
lsj8924!zh | lsj89207:55
ubottulsj892: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:55
Shadow`_ye i like doing useless stuff and installing unnessesary packages \o/07:55
actionParsnipb636bc7ca: you could cron scripts and make the scripts report to the logs etc07:55
lsj8924I want to learn python07:56
actionParsniplsj8924: i'd ask in #python07:56
ThinkT510lsj8924: /join #python07:56
actionParsnipShadow`_: you could install php5 then remove it with the --purge option, may help07:57
b636bc7caactionParsnip: I could certainly roll my own solution, just thought I'd query a few places first to see if I'm missing something obvious.07:57
actionParsnipShadow`_: is the folder not used by the other php5* packages?07:57
Shadow`_not sure, its an ancient 8.0 ubuntu i upgraded to 1207:58
Shadow`_i should've just wiped the darn thing and install deb07:58
ThinkT510Shadow`_: how did you upgrade?07:58
b636bc7caShadow`_: Stuff under /etc/php5 is marked as 'configuration', and those are only deleted if you do 'apt-get --purge remove ...'07:58
actionParsnipShadow`_: did you upgrade to Lucid in between?07:59
Shadow`_the do-release-upgrade command or something07:59
b636bc7ca"Note the removing a package leaves its configuration files in system."07:59
* b636bc7ca suddenly notes tyop07:59
b636bc7caAh, irony - you are a cruel mistress.07:59
Shadow`_well i now got php from the system, gonna have a go at setting it up again :D08:00
actionParsnipShadow`_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric-updates/i386/php5-common/filelist   seems the /etc/php5 is part of that package,which you have installed08:01
nunnsbyhey all, anyone here know much about using TC for traffic shaping?08:01
nunnsbyI'm trying to create a virtual wan circuit, with delay of 400ms AND shaping it to 256k08:02
nunnsbyI have tried tbf, but it appears tbf will only set the latency once the max has hit08:02
nunnsbynetem delay will only add the latency08:02
nunnsbyI need a rule set that will do both08:02
nunnsbyadd latency by default AND rate limit too08:02
Shadow`_ye well, imma let my coworker work on it, he wants ubuntu (i want debian) so fun for him :D thanks anyways actionParsnip :)08:02
lsj8924:-/08:03
sulaimanHello08:04
actionParsniphowdy08:04
sulaimanIs it possible to change the prompt text in my terminal?08:04
actionParsnipsulaiman: sure, look into the PS1 variable08:04
actionParsnipsulaiman: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/08:05
actionParsnipsulaiman: you will need to add the export command to the bottom of ~/.bashrc   to make it stick08:06
actionParsnipsulaiman: you can even add colours etc08:06
Raacare these all users or bots08:07
ThinkT510Raac: only ubottu and the floodbots are permited here as bots08:08
Raacso i s everyone idling08:09
Raacweird08:09
Raachaha08:09
ikonianot really08:09
lsj8924hahhah08:09
ikoniayou need to ask questions/help for people to talk to you08:09
buglyjoeRaac : I keep an irssi window open when I work and switch to it once in a while. you pick up random interesting stuff08:09
lsj8924I want to lean python08:10
lsj8924but after i08:10
somsiplsj8924: ThinkT510> lsj8924: /join #python08:10
sulaimanthanks actionParsnip08:11
Raacwat is an irssi08:11
ThinkT510Raac: irssi is an irc client for the terminal08:11
buglyjoeRaac : http://www.irssi.org/08:12
Calinou._.08:15
XiaolinDraconisxmodmap -e "keysym 112 = XF86AudioRaiseVolume"08:15
XiaolinDraconisfail08:15
XiaolinDraconisooh maybe i was suosed to remove the current function 11208:16
XiaolinDraconisummm i have no P key08:16
XiaolinDraconishad to coPy and Paste these P's08:17
XiaolinDraconisxev told me 112 was keycode of Page down08:17
DaemonicApathyp08:19
Calinouq08:19
XiaolinDraconisgrr08:19
DaemonicApathySorry, just wanted to supply a lowercase for you.08:19
XiaolinDraconisnever use ProPer grammar anyways08:21
XiaolinDraconis;)08:21
DaemonicApathyFair enough.08:21
XiaolinDraconiswhy did xev lie to me?08:21
XiaolinDraconisnevermind08:22
XiaolinDraconisi think i didnt secify that it was a keycode08:22
nina666hi,  I had transfer my email on mozilla thunderbird files from my other laptop. but when I open thunderbird, it crashed after few seconds. I cant find what the problem is. im using ubuntu 12.04. other laptop also 12.04.08:23
nina666the  only difference is other laptop was 64bit, this is 32bit. Im not sure how relevant that is to the problem.. but just mentioned..08:23
nina666anyone knows whats the cause of the problem?08:23
mtrd`wdid you try to launch it from a terminal ?08:24
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Fajkowskyhey08:24
Calinounina666: just type "thunderbird" in a terminal08:26
Fajkowskywhy here is so quite?08:27
nina666Calinou, mtrd`w, i just tried, samething...08:28
nina666it crashed after few seconds08:28
mtrd`wthere must be some error messages08:28
nina666i really need my email files08:28
DominciiI'm being advised to dual boot Windows with Ubuntu instead of trying to play games with only Ubuntu installed, what say ye #ubuntu? Is this the best way to go about it?08:29
lsj8924so qiut08:29
ThinkT510Domincii: probably yes08:29
XiaolinDraconiswindows does it better08:29
rp2nina666: open a terminal, start it from there, see if you get a meaningful error message?08:30
XiaolinDraconislarger selection of games08:30
ThinkT510Domincii: depends how much of a gamer you are08:30
MonkeyDustDomincii  for games, you best stick to windows,08:30
lsj8924I think the windows is the best OS to play games.08:30
XiaolinDraconislots of awesome games on linux08:30
Blue1Domincii: works for me but then I don't do games  About all I do with windows is update a/v software and m$ updates08:30
MonkeyDustMS = Main Stream08:30
lsj8924but it says that the steam will be installed in ubuntu08:31
XiaolinDraconisthis is true08:31
actionParsnipDomincii: depends on the game08:32
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: i play urban terror and penumbra on Linux just dandy08:32
lsj8924so I think you can play dota2 in ubuntu ater sooner.08:32
DominciiThinkT510 and MonkeyDust, my second question is, should I dual boot both and partition my hard drives so each has half the memory, or should I have Windows as my OS and run Ubuntu on occasion via one of those VM things?08:32
nina666rp2, Calinou, mtrd`w; ok, done that , said thunderbird suddenly crashed. this is the details of crash report : http://pastebin.com/WjPANsr708:33
ThinkT510Domincii: memory = ram, i think you mean harddisk space08:33
MonkeyDustDomincii  depends on what you use your pc for, apart from games08:33
lsj8924I think the first choice is better08:33
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, never heard of penumbra, but i just got torchlight on ubuntu08:33
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: its a horror fps survivor08:34
MonkeyDusteven I have heard of penumbra and i'm not a gamer08:34
lsj8924I have two OS in my computer together.08:34
DominciiThinkT510, you're right, that's what I meant :P08:34
XiaolinDraconisim not up on current gaming events, using very dated hardware08:35
actionParsniplsj8924: http://dota2linux.dy.fi/08:35
DominciiMonkeyDust, mainly just browsing the web, using ircs and skyping folks08:35
ThinkT510Domincii: the space you allocate to ubuntu depends on what you want to use it for, i have a 10gb partition for ubuntu and thats plenty for me08:35
DominciiThinkT510, wow, is that with dual booting or VM?08:35
XiaolinDraconisuse ubuntu for browsing the web08:35
ThinkT510Domincii: multi-boot, i use more than 2 OSes08:36
XiaolinDraconisits safer\08:36
MonkeyDustDomincii  I have 15G for /home -- 60% used08:36
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: windows can be just as safe, depends on config08:36
nina666isnt the problem caused by the fact that the profile files were from a 64-bit system on a 32bit system?08:36
nina666rp2, Calinou, mtrd`w; isnt the problem caused by the fact that the profile files were from a 64-bit system on a 32bit system?08:37
digitalunitycan anyone confirm what version nvidia 173 is stable on Please? I don't need unity as such as I use awesomewm08:37
ThinkT510Domincii: i also use a storage partition so that whatever OS i boot i can access all my files (very good for reinstalling too)08:37
MonkeyDustDomincii  I have 15G for / -- 60% used (oops, mistyped)08:37
DominciiMonkeyDust ThinkT510, I have 2.2Tb hard disk space, I would've done 50/50 between Ubuntu and Windows if not for you guys :P thanks!08:37
mtrd`wnina666: did you paste the *real* output from the terminal ? It looks like a simple crash report, no info.08:37
nina666mtrd`w; terminal doesnt give me any error. this is only a pop-up window08:38
MonkeyDustDomincii  yeah, but I also have remote storage on an old pc (2002)08:38
nina666does it have verbose version?08:38
lsj8924shit08:38
ThinkT510!language | lsj892408:38
ubottulsj8924: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:38
lsj8924dote2 was canneled in steam!08:39
DominciiMonkeyDust ThinkT510, thanks guys, you've been awesome, I'm going out now but I'll be dual booting when I get home, I'll be back later and I'll tell you how it goes!08:39
omwamiclear08:39
DaemonicApathyHave fun.08:39
nina666i dont see any verbose thing08:40
mtrd`wnina666: i've got thunderbird on 3 differents computer, with different OS, 32 bit and 64 bit. There must be a configuration problem.08:41
XiaolinDraconisi checked xmodmap and it says keycode 112 is set to raise volume key but its not working!!! grr08:41
somsipnina666: when you say you copied all of your emails over, how did you do that? And do you use an IMAP mailbox?08:41
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actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: if you run the amixer command, does it change the volume?08:43
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, havent tried that08:44
nina666somsip, I copied the *.default folder and pasted it in the new system08:44
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: probably worth exploring.....if its the wrong command, it won't change the volume will it08:44
nina666and yes it is an IMAP mailbox, but I never had problems on the other machine08:44
nina666when thunderbird opens I can see my emails that comes from the profile, but crashes after 2-3 seconds08:45
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, could u paste somsip's command my log doesnt go that far back08:45
somsipnina666: well...if it's IMAP, can't you just setup your user/pas and download everything again? And you did copy to ~/.thunderbird/*.default?08:45
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: why did you not verify you had the right command before messing with keyboard shortcut stuff?08:45
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: amixer -c 0 set Master 1+ unmute08:46
somsipnina666: and you copied profiles.ini too?08:46
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, because my xmodmap method is temorary08:46
nina666somsip; no, because emails are not there anymore. and yes i did that08:46
nina666yes08:46
nina666the whole thing08:46
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: but you still need to make sure the command you are running is right....08:46
actionParsnipnina666: did you chown the files to the new user?08:47
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, i have been googling and cannot find the xmodmap way of doing it08:47
somsipnina666: this looks old, but have you played with the profile manager? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder08:47
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: yes but you have a command, which you haven't tested, once you know the command works and changes the volume, then you can mess with the keyboard stuff08:48
somsipnina666: and your permissions are good in your new .thunderbird folder?08:48
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, how could i know if it worked without testing?08:48
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: you run the command in the terminal, if the command changes the volume you have a winner08:49
somsipnina666: and try thunderbird -safe-mode which might allow you to rebuild your email DB08:49
nina666somsip; yes to all questions08:49
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: but you've not tested it so you are pressing the shortcut in hope that the command is ok and getting frustrated when it doesn't work when you have faild to check the command is even going to do what you want?08:50
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, the method i used was not a command to alter volume, but to alter keys, its the only method i really knew of, aside from the amixer command and i dont know how to set keys to run commands08:50
root_Can someone else? I am trying to do command make install and it says i dont have gen essencial directory or file error but i installed essientals08:51
nina666somosip; wow that worked!08:51
somsipnina666: and are you able to rebuild the DB08:51
nina666somosip; the safemode thing08:51
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, and the command did do what i want, output of xmodmap -pke shows keycode 112 is set to audioraisevolume08:51
nina666somsip, firstly, thanks alot08:52
nina666somsip, but what do you mean by rebuilding?08:52
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, audioraisevolume is set as a key in the keyboard shortcuts08:52
somsipnina666: no worries. Have to chuck a few coconuts until you win a fish...08:52
root_Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help08:52
somsipnina666: ISTR an option on the File menu to rebuild the message index08:53
somsipnina666: or is it Compact...08:53
root_Can someone else? I am trying to do command make install and it says i dont have gen essencial directory or file error but i installed essientals08:54
nina666somsip; i see compact folders08:54
nina666somsip; but the thing is, before this i never compact it on my old laptop08:54
somsipnina666: I'm thinking of soemthing to repair the problem that causes it to crash in normal mode.08:55
nina666somsip; thats fine, anything that works. i just wanted to let you know08:56
somsipnina666: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders tells us "Right click on each corrupt folder in Thunderbird, select Properties, and then press the Rebuild Index button. Its quicker/simpler if you only have a problem with a few folders, such as the Inbox."08:56
somsipnina666: but I'll leave it with you if you have what you want08:56
XiaolinDraconissomsip, could i have the amixer command you showed again?08:57
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, before u say u gave it to me, that was ben's code08:57
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: let me see08:57
somsipXiaolinDraconis: "amixer -q sset Master 2+"08:57
rrajbeHi, Is it possible to mount a filesystem on a machine without making an entry in '/proc/mounts' ?08:57
XiaolinDraconisthanks08:57
somsipXiaolinDraconis: np08:57
root_Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help08:58
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: (09:57:41) somsip: XiaolinDraconis: "amixer -q sset Master 2+"08:58
alumnoasdasd08:58
XiaolinDraconisthanks again08:58
actionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: n worries08:58
nina666somsip. i think i can do that. i do not have that many folders overal08:58
nina666so i do for all of them08:58
alumnoHEY08:59
alumnoI BEAT THE MINESWEEPER IN HARD MODE08:59
somsipnina666: cool08:59
alumnoIM AWESOME08:59
FloodBot1alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:00
root_can someone help with this error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build: No such file or directory ?09:00
root_what do i need to install09:00
root_and how09:00
root_Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help09:01
XiaolinDraconisok this is weird, i made a new keyboard shortcut and set the amixer command, when i pressed pageUp it warned me that it was already in use as a volume control, so the xmodmap command worked, but somehow i dont have a "p" anymore ???09:02
XiaolinDraconisactionParsnip, and yes i confirmed amixer with -h and read what the arguments do09:03
XiaolinDraconis;)09:03
retrorexwhy the hell can't i use Gtwitter. after putting in the usrname pass the thing wouldnt log me in .The same with twitux09:04
MonkeyDustretrorex  you mean gwibber?09:05
XiaolinDraconisim going to log out and back in, to reset the xmodmap settings ive screwed up09:06
retrorexMonkeyDust :gtwitter is a twitterclient like gwibber  , twitux09:07
DaeMonkeyDust: "gTwitter is a Linux client for reading and posting to twitter.com web service."09:07
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nina666somsip. ok done. i actually just mafe the File>Compact... and launch thunderbird in normal way and it works!!09:08
retrorexI just can't figure out were I am wrong. I think it has some thing to do with API's09:08
nina666somsip, thanks alot for your help! you saved me a bad headache09:08
somsipnina666: np. I'm glad it worked.09:09
alumnodsadsad09:09
alumnoI FULL09:09
alumnoI FUCK ALL OF YOUR MOTHERS!!09:09
alumnoI FUCK ALL OF YOUR MOTHERS!!09:09
lsj8924I want to enter the #python ,but after I /join #python ,no response.why?09:09
FloodBot1alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:09
DaeHmm...no ban request feature?09:10
somsipDae: there are mods around. Leave it to them09:11
somsip*ops09:11
Daesomsip: Fair enough.09:11
somsipDae: there is the !ops command if someone is being a big problem and there is no ops presence09:11
DaeAh, duh. Thanks, I forgot about that.09:11
Cnythnkhaha seem like someone had a bad experience with debian09:12
Cnythnkubuntu*09:12
philipp__guys how the **** do i edit one of this *** unity starters?09:12
dr_willis'starters' =  what exactly.09:13
philipp__dr_willis, that bar with icons on the left?09:13
dr_willisthats the left side 'panel'09:13
DaeWhat exactly are you looking to edit, philipp__?09:13
philipp__Dae, i want it to start chromium with a parameter09:14
ardchoillephilipp__: right click to "stick to panel", drag and drop to re-order09:14
DaeThe easiest thing to do would be to make a launcher, then add that to the Unity panel.09:14
philipp__ardchoille, thats cute! how can i change the command it executes?09:14
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements09:15
ardchoillephilipp__: see what Dae posted, that's the easiest09:15
philipp__Dae, im not gonna work around. things like that have to work -.-09:15
actionParsnipphilipp__: ubuntu-tweak can edit the icons in the unity bar09:15
philipp__its not an unity launcher09:15
dr_willisfind the chromium.desktop launcher file and copy it to make your own, or edit it for system wide changes09:15
philipp__dr_willis, where do i find it?09:16
dr_willislocate command will show it where its at.09:16
ardchoillephilipp__: /usr/share/applications probablu09:16
dr_willislocate chromium.desktop     perhaps.09:16
actionParsnipprobably chromium-browser.desktop09:17
philipp__actionParsnip, thx it is09:18
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gbilihello, i would like to know what is the .profile like file that gest executed at bash login?09:19
nina666somsip; ok just one last question. non related to problem. my inbox always synchronizes but not my sent folder. do you know how I set settings for that?09:19
dr_willisgbili:  theres a .profile in your home dir.09:19
dev___hello09:19
dr_willisgbili:  and a .bashrc09:19
somsipnina666: It's in the options...two secs09:19
somsipnina666: Edit|Account Settings, Synch and Storage, Advanced button, tick everything you want.09:20
dev___yea09:21
dev___hello09:21
dev___anyone there09:21
dev___sos to human09:21
Dae!enter | dev___09:21
ubottudev___: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:21
QuantumQrackWhich version of ubuntu release do I need to install with amd cpu?09:21
MonkeyDustdev___  tou're in, it works09:21
MonkeyDusty09:21
vaHi. How do i make the "unlock" button in system settings active? It says "system policy prevents changes. contact admin" when i hover on it.09:22
actionParsnipQuantumQrack: either the 32bit or the 64bit ISOs.09:22
tsimpsonQuantumQrack: the i386 version is for any 32bit (or 64bit) CPU, the AMD64 version is for any 64bit CPU. which you choose depends on if you want 32 or 64bit09:22
dev___hellook09:22
QuantumQrackubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386 <--?09:23
QuantumQrackahh, ok tsimpson09:23
MonkeyDustQuantumQrack  is your cpu 32bit or 64bit.09:23
actionParsnipQuantumQrack: how much RAM do you have?09:23
CalinouQuantumQrack: get the 64 bit one, unless your computer is 8+ years old09:24
QuantumQrackhave plenty of ram and spare sticks of ram lying around.  Maybe 6 gigs09:24
Calinouit will almost always work09:24
Calinou64 bit supports > 3GB RAM and is faster09:24
QuantumQrackahh, good point, forgot about that.09:24
actionParsnipCalinou: its not outright faster09:24
tsimpsonthe 32bit version supports more than 4GB of RAM too09:24
tsimpsonwith PAE09:24
CalinouPAE is terrible09:24
dev___I have 8GB ram09:24
Calinoumesses up with drivers09:24
Calinouand doesn't change per process limit09:25
philipp__thx guys it worked09:25
actionParsnipCalinou: some apps under 64bit will be faster, like audio and video encoding09:25
philipp__that edit such things does not work out of the box is a joke though09:25
actionParsnipCalinou: for web access and that sort of thing itwill make near-zero difference09:25
QuantumQrackThe cpu is an AMD Atholon 64 X2 dual core09:25
dev___64Bit is the future09:26
actionParsnipQuantumQrack: I'd use 64bit then09:26
dev___use 64bit09:26
dr_willis!brainstorm > philipp__09:26
ubottuphilipp__, please see my private message09:26
QuantumQrackk09:26
CalinouactionParsnip: who said I was talking about web access?09:27
CalinouQuantumQrack: 64bit09:27
actionParsnipCalinou: you said 64bit is faster09:27
dev___64bit is faster09:27
dev___action09:27
philipp__dr_willis, no point in that... unity is bejond hope09:27
dr_willisphilipp__:  so is ranting in the irc channels. have a nice day.,09:27
actionParsnipdev___:  its not, in most cases the difference is negligable09:27
dr_willisbbl.09:28
MonkeyDustphilipp__  you're free to not use unity09:28
dev___If you ur system support 64bit use 64bit that simple09:28
actionParsnipdev___: in data intensive stuff like encoding data it will be difference09:28
dev___thats what im talking about action09:28
philipp__MonkeyDust, i know and hell i have no idea why i still installed it...09:28
actionParsnipdev___: but saying '64bit is faster' is misleading09:28
Daephilipp__: The more advanced Ubunters may choose something other than Unity, for easier access to the features they like. Unity seems to focus more on simplicity for the common user, though.09:28
MonkeyDustphilipp__  it's there by default09:28
philipp__MonkeyDust, i usually use debian stable but need ubuntu for school09:28
dev___No its not09:28
dev___Ill compare my rig to any 32bit anyday09:29
actionParsnipdev___: it is because it sounds like using word processing and so forth willbe faster too, which it won't09:29
philipp__Dae, i once installed unity by my grandmother. if i would have been able to edit a couple of things it would be fine... so she abandoned it09:30
philipp__xfce ftw09:30
dev___Action though. Do you know how to fix this error  /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop09:30
DaeTo each, their own. :)09:30
ikoniadev___: ther file/dir is missing09:30
actionParsnipdev___: could make the folder09:30
dev___and what in it?09:31
dev___I am unable to edit or modify any files there09:31
ikoniadev___: what are you trying to do ?09:31
philipp__dev___, a kernel modul...09:31
dev___i am trying to use "make install" command for my graphics to compile / install09:31
dev___but it comes with that error09:31
dev___i am unable to make, ether09:32
ikoniadev___: what are you trying to build09:32
dev___a graphics driver09:32
DaeWhat kernel do you have installed, dev___?09:32
actionParsnipdev___: sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build09:32
ikoniadev___: which one09:32
dev___i believe09:32
dev___for rt09:32
dev___realtek09:32
dev___nvm09:32
dev___wifi driver09:32
FloodBot1dev___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:32
gbilidr_willis, thanks .bashrc was the right answer, .profile only gets executed at login I think, wheras .bashrc does at every new session or window, don't know the exact terminology09:32
ikoniadev___: what exactly are you trying to build09:32
actionParsnipdev___: which chip?09:32
ikoniarealtek is not a graphics card09:32
ikoniadev___: look in the restricted drivers tool09:32
nina666somsip: weiredly, i do not have any synch and storage09:33
dev___why so many questions ?? i just need a answer :(. rt 8188ce or somethign09:33
XiaolinDraconisso i guess im stuck using shift+PgUP for raising volume rather than assigning PgUP as a volume key09:33
dev___restricted drivers tool?09:33
greekHi. I'm on 11.04. I'm trying to install php5-gd but it's saying broken packages: The following packages have unmet dependencies. php5-gd : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.5-1ubuntu7) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 is to be installed09:34
philipp__everyone thx for your help! much aprrechiated! g2g to school now bye09:34
Daenina666: "synchronization & storage"09:34
dev___restricted drivers tool?09:34
somsipnina666: Under your main account, you should have Server Settings, Copies and Folders...Sync and Storage. It's not there?09:34
dev___I have a older version of that with the build file in it09:35
dev___but not the new version09:35
actionParsnipgreek: Natty is EOL really soon, less than 1 month09:35
dev___?09:35
actionParsnipgreek: I wouldn't bother as support will end and you will get no updates and no support ere09:36
actionParsnipdev___: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux/+bug/90255709:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 902557 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "Wireless not working in 12.04 for rtl8192ce (RTL8188CE)" [Medium,Triaged]09:36
nina666nope... its no there!09:37
nina666lol thats very weired09:37
dev___that link has no answer09:38
actionParsnipdev___: its a known issue, not all bug reports have answers09:38
greekactionParsnip, well we're running 10.04 on our servers (which is LTE afaik) and those allowed me to update php5-gd. But the machine currently in question is my development laptop09:38
greeks/lte/lts09:38
actionParsnipgreek: LTS, but yes Lucid is LTS. Server is suported for years to come :)09:39
greekI guess we could upgrade our servers to 12.04 LTS though ;)09:39
XiaolinDraconisvery silly for ubuntu to say it would be impossible to type if i use page up or down as a shortcut key, i dont know about you guys but i am pretty should typing does not require either of those keys... ever09:39
XiaolinDraconissure*09:40
dev___action i was able to install the driver before though perfectly fine09:40
dev___I just need to fix something09:40
dev___on another install i was able to install perfectly fine09:40
* nb-ben bought a USB wireless adapter and had ubuntu start w/o networking so had to use terminal to operate the thing ;(09:40
dev___same device09:41
nb-benanybody know how to make ubuntu show that nice little icon at the top panel after it started w/o networking09:41
dev___what nice icon?09:41
nb-benso that I may connect to wireless networks without the use of the terminal09:41
nb-bennetworking icon09:41
dev___oh09:41
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actionParsnipnb-ben: it pays to research, see what works out of the box09:42
actionParsnip!away > qos09:42
actionParsnip!away > qos|away09:42
ubottuqos|away, please see my private message09:42
nb-benit did work out of the box09:42
dev___Put back in the box and it will work again?09:42
nb-beniwconfig wlan0 essid "my_essid" ; dhclient wlan0 did the trick09:42
dev___What chipset do you have09:43
XiaolinDraconiswas thinking the samething actionParsnip09:43
dev___?09:43
nb-benno need for any configuration09:43
actionParsnipnb-ben: nice, is nm-applet running?09:43
nb-benyep09:44
nb-benactionParsnip, ^09:44
nb-benlooks like there's some configuration value somewhere set to off or something, that just makes it not show network related stuff09:44
greekactionParsnip, is it possible to get my php5-gd installed on my 11.04 or is upgrading ubuntu my only option?09:44
actionParsnipnb-ben: could try wicd09:44
actionParsnipgreek: do you have any PPAs added, they may cause issues with deps09:45
greekNope09:45
nb-beni don't understand why it even has that no network mode09:45
nb-benit's utterly useless to just disable networking if you can't connect to anywhere on boot09:45
greekactionParsnip, I use out-of-the-box Ubuntu so no PPAs09:46
greekI wish there was a one command upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 :-P09:46
QuantumQrackWon a new case at PAX seattle, so I am going to use some old hardware to run linux with the case.  I hope it goes smoothly installing off a USB stick.09:46
dev___has anyone here used grub customizer?09:46
nb-bengreek, you can upgrade automatically09:46
greeknb-ben?09:46
nb-benusing update manager09:46
dev___sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub-customizer09:46
dev___?09:47
actionParsnipgreek: are there bugs reported?09:47
greekactionParsnip, no I checked09:47
actionParsnipdev___: never had to, what do you want to achieve?09:47
greekactionParsnip, I'll pastebin the exact error I'm getting one sec09:47
dev___I want to remove some of the options to boot into, and if i can change the purple color to something else09:48
dev___when i load up my computer i do not like purple showing ..09:48
actionParsnipdev___: uninstall unused kernels, it will clean up grub for you09:48
greekactionParsnip, http://pastie.org/489595909:48
XiaolinDraconisgrrrr09:48
dev___what about th apparence?09:48
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dev___I have googled grub  and alot of people have custom backgrounds and looks of grub loader09:49
dev___how do i do this?09:49
XiaolinDraconisamixer code does not raise volume beyond 42%09:49
greekactionParsnip, if it's easier to just upgrade to 12.04 I'm totally open to that :)09:49
XiaolinDraconisnot beyond 3% if volume is 1%09:49
actionParsnipgreek: I recommend it09:49
actionParsnipdev___: so you want a background image?09:49
greekactionParsnip, ok thanks. I'll google on how to do the upgrade09:49
dev___yea09:50
dev___or color09:50
dev___just not purple09:50
nb-benI can't really tell much difference between 12 and 1109:50
XiaolinDraconisi would love to get rid of that silly purple color09:50
dev___actionparsnip something like this http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/GNU-GRUB_3.png09:51
actionParsnipdev___: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-change-grub2-background-image.html09:51
XiaolinDraconisi have a customized plymouth screen and customized LDM screen but the LDM still fades from purple into the bg09:51
david_hi09:51
actionParsnipdev___: i believe if you just put the image in /boot/grub and run:  sudo update-grub     it willapply09:52
ardchoilleWhat about the login screen> Can we change the theme/colors in that screen too?09:53
actionParsnipardchoille: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm09:54
dev___Are you sure on that?09:54
dev___hold on09:54
ardchoilleactionParsnip: thank you, sir :)09:54
ardchoilleactionParsnip: this lightdm theme reminds me a lot of when I was writing GDM themes09:56
XiaolinDraconishow can i be sure of what i have ldm or gdm, i think i installed gdm but cannot remember09:57
dev___action How would i make a image tga format? it says it must be taht format09:58
XiaolinDraconisi am searching how to remove that purpleness that it fades to09:58
dev___is there any tools out there ?09:58
dev___you may know of09:58
XiaolinDraconisgimp09:58
actionParsnipdev___: use imagemagick perhaps09:58
XiaolinDraconissave as09:58
dev___ok09:58
dev___ill be right back im going to see if it worked09:59
XiaolinDraconisyou're everywhere!!! https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-lightdm-manager/+question/19470310:01
XiaolinDraconisstill trying to figure out how to confirm what i am using, gdm or ldm10:01
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ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: ps aux | grep light10:03
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tsimpsonXiaolinDraconis: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager10:04
dr_willisthe 'service' command can show the status of lightdm also10:04
XiaolinDraconisi tried that ps grep think, all it did was serve to confuse me10:05
XiaolinDraconisthing*10:05
varikonniemicat /etc/X11/default-display-manager10:05
varikonniemiwill say it outright10:05
ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: print the output10:05
XiaolinDraconistrying that now10:05
dr_willisjust shows running processes. ;) simple10:05
XiaolinDraconiswell that process is definately running then10:06
XiaolinDraconisgrrrrrr10:06
XiaolinDraconisdefinitely10:06
XiaolinDraconisfor the life of me! i have been correcting myself on that for over a month and still type it wrong10:06
dr_willissudo service status lightdm                  may also show its state10:06
XiaolinDraconiscat /etc/X11/default-display-manager    fail10:07
XiaolinDraconistried it just for the fun10:07
dr_willisdetails are more helpfull then 'fail'10:08
tsimpsonfail? we're going to need something more than "fail"10:08
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XiaolinDraconisdirectory non-existent10:08
tsimpsondid you make sure to type /etc/X11, rather than /etc/x11?10:09
XiaolinDraconiscopied and pasted so no i didnt confirm10:09
tsimpsonthat's rather odd then10:09
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diverdudeI just bought a brand new HP server and i am installing ubuntu 12.04 server ed. on it as we speak :) I was considering how to set up a really good backup scheme on the server. Different folders needs to be backed up, /var/www /home git repos, mysql bases and such. How do i go about making a proper backup strategy for my new server?10:10
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ThinkT510!backup | diverdude10:10
ubottudiverdude: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:10
XiaolinDraconisstatus: unrecognized service10:10
XiaolinDraconisahh prolly needed to be lightDM for the "service" command10:11
XiaolinDraconisnope10:11
dr_willisXiaolinDraconis:  use tab completion. ;)10:11
dr_willisservice co mand has a 'status-all' option also i recall10:12
ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: can you paste the result of: ps aux | grep light10:12
XiaolinDraconisdr_willis, i believe its searching for "status" as a program10:12
dr_willisi dont even know XiaolinDraconis 's original issue10:12
dr_willisservice --help10:13
XiaolinDraconisThinkT510, one moment10:13
dr_willisperhaps we got it backwards10:13
XiaolinDraconisdr_willis, original issue was getting rid of the ugly purple at login, currently trying to determine if i installed gdm or am still using lightdm10:14
XiaolinDraconisThinkT510, why do we need the results of ps aux?10:15
dr_willispurple? if you mean the ubuntu ... animation, thats the 'splash' screen, which is controlled by 'ply outh'10:15
XiaolinDraconisafter plymouth10:15
ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: to determine what is running10:15
XiaolinDraconisi already fixed plymouth10:15
dr_willisplymouth splash is befor you see the login manager10:15
XiaolinDraconisits lightdm10:15
XiaolinDraconisi already stated i was trying the other commands such as cat for fun10:16
XiaolinDraconisdr_willis, i am using a custom plymouth10:16
ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: are you sure you are not just seeing the grep?10:16
XiaolinDraconisThinkT510, the result of ps aux | grep light shows that lightdm is indeed a service running as root10:17
ThinkT510XiaolinDraconis: good, just wanted to make sure you were reading it right10:18
lsj8924is anyone here10:18
XiaolinDraconisi am not alone in my search10:18
XiaolinDraconishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197358510:18
ThinkT510lsj8924: of course10:18
XiaolinDraconis1552 someone's to be exact10:19
lsj8924I input the command /j #pyton10:19
lsj8924but no response10:19
lsj8924who can tell me why10:19
ThinkT510lsj8924: /join #python10:19
XiaolinDraconisthere are 990 people there10:19
lsj8924no response for /join #python10:20
lsj8924the command line didnot work10:20
ThinkT510lsj8924: what irc client are you using?10:20
MonkeyDustlsj8924  maybe you have to register10:20
XiaolinDraconislawls10:20
XiaolinDraconishes using terminal10:20
ThinkT510lsj8924: you type it into the irc window, not your terminal10:21
MonkeyDustXiaolinDraconis  don't laugh at people in a help channel, is not nice10:21
lsj8924actually, I type it in  my emphaty10:22
lsj8924but no response as well10:22
XiaolinDraconislsj8924, type it right here10:22
XiaolinDraconislsj8924, just like a message10:22
ThinkT510lsj8924: can you see a channel list?10:22
lsj8924empathy10:22
alumno26heññppp10:22
lsj8924no ,i cant10:23
alumno26yho0laaa10:23
l0p3nlsj8924: try /j python or /join python10:23
alumno26i want bussys10:23
alumno26its kiwi time10:23
ThinkT510lsj8924: it really is better to use a proper irc client (like xchat)10:23
XiaolinDraconisMonkeyDust, sorry that was uncalled for, lawls comes out of the keyboard faster than i think10:23
alumno26sarp10:23
lsj8924empathy is not that bad10:23
XiaolinDraconisMonkeyDust, which is something else to lawl over10:23
lsj8924i think10:23
HackinblackIs there a way to increase Grub Wait time  to say like 60 seconds? on boot screen / select screen?10:24
Hatorihackinblack, edit /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub210:24
lsj8924 /join pytho10:24
alumno28ouus hsiit10:24
Hackinblackwhat is the command to edit that file?10:25
alumno29ola10:25
HackinblackHatori ?10:25
MonkeyDustHatori  use sudo -e /etc/default/grub10:25
POllashola10:25
alumno29qerico el pene10:25
alumno28ortiiz10:25
Hackinblackalright thanks10:25
Hackinblackbrb10:25
alumno26eeeeee10:25
POllasmmmmmm10:25
alumno26soy su morenito 1910:25
POllasme gusta comer penes10:25
alumno28gallooooooooooooooooooooooo10:25
MonkeyDust!es10:25
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:25
POllasahi ama qe rica10:26
Hatorimonkeydust, i think that was for hackinblack :d10:26
POllasjajajajjajajajajajaja10:26
alumno26eeee10:26
POllaslol\10:26
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FloodBot1POllas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:26
POllaskqakqaoqiwdhhfu\10:26
dr_willisyou may want to backup the file first  Hackinblack10:26
alumno28me pones to burro gallo10:26
POllasquiero pollas10:26
POllas>*10:26
alumno28yeee10:26
Hackinblackalright i will well how?10:26
HackinblackI dont normally have permission for it10:26
alumno28follamos call me?10:26
alumno22oiui10:26
ThinkT510!bcm4310:26
alumno22g10:26
alumno22lol10:26
dr_willisyou use 'sudo' command/rights to elevate your permissions10:26
alumno23ola10:26
POllasgalllo follemos10:26
alumno28siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii10:27
alumno22follarme10:27
alumno24olaaaaaaaaa10:27
POllasjajajajajjajaja10:27
POllaslolololololo10:27
XiaolinDraconisare we under attack?10:27
alumno26hi guys10:27
alumno23hi kaathy10:27
POllasola gays10:27
MonkeyDust!ops | alumno24 POllas10:27
FloodBot1POllas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:27
alumno22lofohjvibhuerfucbgwrkufvgebtheth10:27
ubottualumno24 POllas: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!10:27
HackinblackIll  just take my cahnces10:27
Hackinblackbrb10:27
POllashiii10:27
alumno22rtgfhrtthethsrths10:27
alumno24jodidas zorras del imnfierno10:27
dr_willisbbl10:27
alumno24lasriosaa10:27
chriswardalumno26 was sending some nice spam to me :D and be ware, theres about 5 alumnos10:28
MonkeyDustchrisward  the children are awake, ignore them10:28
Hackinblackyea alumno is sending me pm10:28
alumno22oa10:28
alumno22men10:28
XiaolinDraconissudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer      nice tool10:29
XiaolinDraconisi heard a channel had come under attack by brazilian skids earlier today10:30
XiaolinDraconisand i just had something weird happen10:31
XiaolinDraconislost connection... to my wired internet10:31
MasterOfDisasterI don't like the fonts okular + libepub backend is using to render a document. How can I customize this?10:32
varikonniemiMasterOfDisaster, you can overwrite that font with one that you like10:34
MasterOfDisastervarikonniemi: how? by editing the .epub file?10:38
Fuzzlesis this the ubuntu irc?10:38
justusyes10:38
Hatorino :d10:39
justusHatori: now you're just being contrary :P10:39
varikonniemiMasterOfDisaster, it was just an idea how to emergency hack it as you like. of course the program should offer a choice of fonts10:39
justusjust to make sure I understood this correctly from my search: there is no official GUI to manage services?10:39
Hatorijust jokes justus :..d10:39
ThinkT510!joke | Hatori10:40
ubottuHatori: You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.10:40
Hatori:d10:40
Shadow`_linux ppl have no humour, well known10:40
Fuzzlesdoes ubuntu `2.04 not have a package manger anymore?10:40
Shadow`_apt,aptitude, software distribution center10:40
MasterOfDisastervarikonniemi: very much appreciated, thanks :) - I wasn't sure whether there are some dotfiles read by libepub or deps influencing this10:40
DJonesFuzzles: Yes, its called software centre10:40
MonkeyDustFuzzles  yes, synaptic, but it's no longer installed by default10:40
ThinkT510Fuzzles: the software centre is default10:41
Hatorijustus, for upstart based job, i think yes10:41
DJonesFuzzles: Or you can install synaptic package manager10:41
dev___got grub background to work with custom image10:41
justusHatori: that is, ... highly annoying ^^10:41
justusHatori: So basically I have to go via console in order to disably notify-osd10:41
justus?10:41
Hatorijustus, i think yes,edit some files10:42
justusgreat, and here I thought the wiki entry had to be a very, very, very bad joke10:42
justusis there an official way to point out personal annoyance at something that I conceive as blatantly stupid?10:42
Hatorijustus, but that was for system wide job10:42
ThinkT510!brainstorm | justus10:43
ubottujustus: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!10:43
justusthanks, ThinkT51010:43
Shadow`_to bad ubuntu has a .com domain10:44
Hatorishadow'... And what do you want for them? .gov??10:45
Shadow`_.org is more suited for OSS10:45
jribShadow`_: use your hosts file :)10:46
tsimpsonno one has ever took any notice of the meaning for TLDs10:46
Hatorishadow' i think canonical as a ubuntu developer was a commercial entity.10:46
Shadow`_heh10:46
Shadow`_ye but ubuntu isnt, anyways was just saying, ubuntu.org would fit more =p10:46
Cnythnksuch a trife10:47
Cnythnktrifle*10:47
MonkeyDustShadow`_  ubuntu.org exists too10:47
tsimpsonShadow`_: it used to have an .org domain, the .com domain is just more "friendly" to "normal" people10:48
Hatorishadow' thats a normal thing10:48
dr_willisubuntu.xxx for sexy ubuntu themes.  ;)10:48
Shadow`_what 'normal' people would go to a linux distro out of nowhere on their own? heh10:48
Hatoriwow, sound greats dr_willis :d10:48
tsimpsonShadow`_: that's kind of the aim of Ubuntu ;)10:48
MonkeyDustShadow`_  'normal' != interesting ;)10:49
Shadow`_ye, year of the linux date("Y")+110:49
Hatori!oot10:49
Hatori!oot10:49
Hatori!ot10:49
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:49
Shadow`_only srs bsns in here!10:50
dev___what ubuntu.xxx is a actuall site lol10:51
Shadow`_theres allot more reasons why linux stays out of view for the general public, a .com domain should be one of the least of the concerns10:51
dr_willisbbl10:51
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md_5there are currently no applications which integrate with your (null) account10:53
md_5I can't delete whatever was there10:53
md_5hmm probably +1 question10:53
dev___yawn,10:55
Luftihi ;)10:56
Hatorihi lufti10:56
dev___I have customized almost everything on my pc and now i am bored10:56
MonkeyDustdev___  time to go outside and play10:57
Hatoridev__, do you want something more bit interesting?10:57
dev___Im a bit old to go outside and play10:57
justusok, how can I turn off NotifyOSD? There seems to be the option of moving a config file around (which seems kind of messy) and not anything else... am I missing something here?10:57
dev___Hatori sure what do you have?10:58
Hatoridev__, one question, what do you interested in?10:58
dev___as in?10:58
Hatoridev__, everything.. :d10:59
dev___um, just tell me what it is10:59
Hatorikernel hacking maybe10:59
Luftii have problems with my ubuntu 12.04 since yesterday. It locks the screen after random number of seconds and i have to login again. It happened twice even while i was typing this. It's the same screen that appears when i leave this laptop alone for some minutes. But suddenly it happens in shorter time!10:59
LuftiAny idea?10:59
dev___blow up pc?11:00
Hatoridev__, do you like programming?11:00
dev___I'm off to bed, goodnight guys11:00
dev___Hatori i do, learning perl atm11:00
Hatori:d11:00
Hatorigoodnight dev__ , s11:00
dev___Yea, talk to you later.11:01
Hatoriokey11:01
bomgardAny recommendations for an IRC daemon, I'm trying to decide between ircd-hybrid and ircd-irc2.11:03
argylbomgard: UnrealIRCd is pretty decent11:04
argylwiki has a good page of comparisons if that helps11:05
bomgardargyl: thanks, that looks very helpful.11:06
AresTheLionanyone know a alternative to unetbootin for ntsf usb formating for a win7X86 legacy boot install?11:08
ThinkT510AresTheLion: maybe they will in ##windows11:09
b0n1hey guys here is my problem: http://pastebin.com/rScN2x5t11:12
justusok, did Microsoft pay the guys who implemented NotifyOSD? That seems to be about the single option left for this level of active obstructionism11:12
janek_hi guys, I have just set my first ubutu serv and wanted to completely switch of the logs related to eth0 I am working on. Any help would be appreciated.11:12
_eMaX_hello all11:12
THEJOLLYGRIMREAPanyone in here know their way around the nvidia drivers?11:12
bomgardjanek_: which logs are you talking about?11:13
b0n1why does the error SIOCADDRT: No such process appear at the first time?11:13
_eMaX_how can I configure ubuntu to use a given smtp server I've on my net when I send mails from the command line like echo testing | mail -s Bla somone@test.com11:13
kevindhey everyone, i have problems with uninstalling a package could someone help me ?11:14
blackshirtkevind: what the problems exactly ?11:14
janek_bomgard: all the logs11:15
kevindblackshirt: i installed owncloud with apt-get. this installed the software into /usr/share. because i want it in my /var/www i ran "apt-get remove owncloud"11:15
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kevindblackshirt: now the problem is: my apache still is looking into /usr/share/owncloud when i surf to "hostname.com/owncloud"11:16
bomgardjanek_: logs can come from many places. For example, the firewall would be generating logs, you can disable that with sudo ufw logging off11:16
blackshirtkevind, have you purge it ?11:16
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itiliousis it possible to use a .exe screensaver via wine in ubuntu 12.04?11:17
kevindblackshirt: how ? ...11:17
blackshirtkevind: apt-get purge owncloud11:17
CreazioNCan anyone help me with finding a solution on how to set umask on apache @ ubuntu server11:17
kevindblackshirt: no i havent... thought its enough to remove. give me a sec11:17
CreazioNtried to read about http://www.ducea.com/2009/08/03/apache2-umask/ - but it wont affect :/11:18
CreazioNcomming from debian where it just work out of box with the right umask - but ubuntu does'nt?11:18
janek_bomgard: I see. My aim is to disable all the logs related to internet traffic, so to speak.11:18
bomgardcan you put a snippet of the logs in question in pastebin or similar so I can see what source is generating them? I'm quite certain they might be generated by ufw11:19
blackshirtcreazion, what do you want with umask ?11:19
kevindblackshirt: i ran purge now but apache is still searching in /usr/share/owncloud" hmm11:20
blackshirtkevind: are you configured your apache manually ?11:20
CreazioNblackshirt: on debian its default 0022 - on ubuntu 0002 if im not mistaken11:20
CreazioNAnd i need same umask as default debian apache11:21
kevindblackshirt: i installed apache with apt-get. i just modified the port.conf11:21
janek_bomgard: beeing honest, I meant all the sources of all the logs. I will do what you said about ufw first.11:21
bomgardjanek_: if you have multiple sources have a look at syslog-ng filters that will let you route any sources you like to /dev/null11:22
kevindblackshirt: is there a way to "reinstall" apt-get packages ?11:22
janek_bomgard: Excellent, big thanks. Will look into it.11:22
bomgardjanek_: most welcome11:23
blackshirtkevind, yes, just install it again11:24
blackshirtor if was installed, you can use --reinstall options11:24
blackshirtCreazioN: i'm not sure11:24
CreazioNblackshirt: i need it with custom umask so when it create folders its set without php doing anything11:25
lorenzo__list11:27
Fuzzleswhen is steam coming to ubuntu?11:34
lorenzo__!list11:34
ubottulorenzo__: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:34
kevindblackshirt: okay it works now... stoped apache2 service. apt-get install apache2 --reinstall11:38
kevinddid it11:38
lorenzo__!list11:38
vaHi. In ubuntu 12, gnome-control-center's 'unlock' button is inactive if logged in through Xrdp or through an LTSP thin client (works if logged in locally). It says "system policy prevents changes. contact admin" on hover. Anyone know how to enable it or what could be causing this?11:38
diverdudeI bought a HP ProLiant MicroServer N40. But it is as if the HDD is not being detected. How can i check if the HDD is available in the computer? I am installing ubuntu server 12.04   When installation gets to partition disks, it surveys the two drives and says 'This is an overview of your currently configured partitions and mount points'. However, there is no information there. There are three menu options given: 'Configure iSCSI volumes'; 'Undo11:44
diverdudechanges to partitions'; 'Finish partitioning and write changes to disk'. If I choose the third, I get the error message 'No root file system defined'. If I go into the first, it asks for an IP address for access to iSCSI volume.11:44
MonkeyDustdiverdude  mind: there's also #ubuntu-server11:45
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jgcampbell300can somone tell me how to partition some extra drives with ubuntu server 12.04 from cli11:54
codemaniacjgcampbell300: man fdisk11:55
jgcampbell300thanks11:55
MonkeyDustjgcampbell300  type sudo fdisk -l to get an idea what it looks like11:57
wibenHi, I'm trying to boot ubuntu eee (Easy Peasy) from live usb on Packard Bell DotS2 Netbook. I've checked the usb stick on 2 other computers, it works fine. However on the netbook it blocks the boot with some information message about, Intel PineVIEW and Disassembly Prohibited. Any ideas how to work around this ?11:57
asilhouetteany body help with these BADSIGs at apt-get update errors12:01
asilhouettetried google and stuff didn't work12:01
dr_williswiben:  if you want  support here, you should be using ubuntuor an official varient. im not even sure easy peasy is getting updates, or any development any more.12:03
dr_williswiben:  and id try the 'nomodeset' option if you get to a boot menu..12:04
eyes_bluehello12:04
akishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1255761/ I use Ubuntu 12.04 32bit, today I saw a error/warning sign (a red triangle with exclamation sign in it) on the top bar. Clicking on it the message says on gray, "The update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Please update manually by clicking on this icon and then selecting 'Check for updates' and check if some of the listed repositories12:04
akisfail." There is no network problem since internet works fine. When I check for updates, there are none  and I don't get any message saying any repository has failed. there were no updates available, any idea?12:04
dr_willisakis:  use the apt-get commands from cli, tp update/upgrade the system yet?12:05
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wibenok, how about this then: Hi, I'm trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 from live usb on Packard Bell DotS2 Netbook. I've checked the usb stick on 2 other computers, it works fine. However on the netbook it blocks the boot with some information message about, Intel PineVIEW and Disassembly Prohibited. I don't even get to the boot menu. Any ideas how to work around this ?12:05
dr_willisif you cant boot the usb, check the bios settings12:06
akissome details please?12:06
BluesKajHey all12:06
penseur_thinkerhi12:06
dr_willisakis:  apt 101 basics... 'sudo apt-get update'  and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'12:07
akisi did sudo apt-get update and i paste what i got12:07
munuainen_Hi there, help on partitioning much appreciated :)12:07
dr_willismunuainen_:  Details of the problem will help us help you. ;)12:08
BluesKajakis, you have to do sudo apt-get upgrade too12:08
munuainen_I'm trying to combine the partition 4 with the Ubuntu installation partition 5: http://imageshack.us/a/img213/7746/partition.png12:08
munuainen_Tried Gparted live, to no avail.12:08
mx_I checkout my svn but I face this error svn: '/svn/openerp/openerp/!svn/vcc/default' path not found12:09
mx_ how can i solve it12:09
dr_willismunuainen_:  mergeing a primary partition into a logical partition?12:09
akishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1255777/12:09
ThinkT510akis: that is upgrade, not update12:10
munuainen_dr_willis: I don't really care about the pt 4 being a primary, I just wish to merge them together so that Ubuntu will still boot.12:10
ThinkT510akis: update refreshes the repos and upgrade actually fetches and applies the updates12:10
munuainen_I'd also love to increase the swap partition size at the end.12:10
dr_willismunuainen_:  but you are trying to combine a primary with a logical?12:10
munuainen_dr_willis: Should I be able to merge if I delete primary partition and recreate it as a logical one?12:11
akishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1255781/12:11
ThinkT510akis: that shows some ppas are not found12:12
dr_willismunuainen_:  if you delete one partition you can 'resize' the other..  you may need to enlarge the extended first. THEN enlarge the logical in the extended12:12
akisi saw that, what can do for that?12:12
dr_willisremove the faulty ppa's12:13
mx_any help12:13
dr_willismunuainen_:  if you have a empty partition, you can delete it making unallocated space, then gparted should be able to move/resize whats next to it12:14
munuainen_dr_willis: I think I tried that, but Gparted wasn't able to do that :/12:14
MonkeyDustmunuainen_  but if you want to do that without dataloss, it takes a looooong time, i tried it12:15
akisok. how can i proceed with the remove?12:15
munuainen_Monkeydust: Do you think I should wipe pts 4-6 and restart from Ubuntu installation?12:15
MonkeyDustmunuainen_  fresh install is always faster and more efficient - backup first!!12:16
ThinkT510!ppa-purge | akis12:17
ubottuakis: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html12:17
L3topfunny that ppa-purge comes from a ppa...12:18
munuainen_Ok, I don't really have anything to back up there so I'll probably reinstall. Thanks!12:18
MonkeyDustL3top  you cynic you12:18
SarcasMogood day, I'm having trouble updating my adobe flashplayer for chrome. When I download the tar.gz from the site instead of installing it mounts as if it is a hard drive, what should I do to install the update correctly?12:19
L3topSarcasMo: you should use the version in the repos.12:20
ThinkT510!flash | SarcasMo12:20
ubottuSarcasMo: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash12:20
SarcasMookey I'll try12:21
akisis it recomendable to remove these ppa's or maybe the problem is temporary?12:22
L3topSarcasMo: what version of ubuntu are you using?12:22
MonkeyDustakis  it is always recommended to remove ppas12:22
ThinkT510akis: it is recommendable to never install ppas in the first place12:22
manimaraanhi12:22
dr_willisakis:  do the ppas add somthing you need?  if not remove them12:22
mx_I just checkout my svn and i face this problem is this issue related to client or svn server as i said before when i checked out svn i face this error svn: '/svn/openerp/openerp/!svn/vcc/default' path not found12:23
SarcasMo1212:23
akisas far i remember i installed a program trough tis ppa12:23
SarcasMoL3top: 1212:23
Picimx_: probably best to ask in #svn12:23
L3topmx_: What is the full co you are using? Please paste here what you are typing.12:24
SarcasMothe flash plugin should already be installed right?12:24
manimaraanhi anyone help to me, i 've create pyqt in audio record gui and how to pymedia code in compare to pyqt12:24
L3topSarcasMo: not necessarily... apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer | grep Installed12:25
AdvoWorkif my txt file has a link in it, how can i pipe that to wget? ive tried wget | file.txt  wget < file.txt  wget | cat file.txt   wget < cat file.txt ?12:25
SarcasMoL3top: installed (NONE)12:25
L3topSarcasMo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer12:25
asilhouettei'm having problems with BADSIG while updating, how do i fix them12:25
mx_L3top: svn co http://192.168.44.13/svn/openerp/12:26
mx_this is my command12:26
SarcasMoL3top: the warning is gone!12:26
SarcasMoL3top: thank you very much!12:26
L3topmx_: so you have an svn repository on your local network under /var/www? or... How have you set this up?12:27
L3topnp SarcasMo12:27
manimaraan<mani>12:27
manimaraan=== mani12:27
mx_no svn not locally its in my company server12:28
L3topmx_: in terms of networking, 192.168= local12:28
mx_and iam not configuring any thing is it need configuration12:28
L3topmx_: I do not understand the question, but I do not know how svn can resolve that if it is not on a local server under /var/www/svn/openerp on the server with apache(or soemthing) running.12:31
mashbroHow do I install a local server on Ubuntu?12:31
L3topwhat happens when you just drop the 192.168.44.1 in a web browser?12:31
dr_willismashbro:  a server to do what?12:32
mashbromashbro: A server to run PHP, Python scripts.12:32
alvesjnrhi all. I need to use a program (meep). When I type $ meep it says to run apt-get install meep. I run it, but it returns  "meep is already the newest version.". Then I try to run meep, and it still saying to run apt-get ...12:32
alvesjnrwhat can be the problem?12:32
dr_willis!lamp12:32
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:32
akisthanks you all!12:32
mashbroLike WAMP or XAMPP in windows alvesjnr12:32
mashbroThanks.12:33
alvesjnrmashbro, maybe this message is not to me12:33
mashbroyes, it was not to you, sorry.12:33
MonkeyDustmashbro  run tasksel (task select)12:33
mashbroDo I need to set any special permissions for adding contents into the WWW folder?12:34
SarcasMowhat is a good virtual pc for ubuntu?12:34
SarcasMoI want to experiment with arch12:34
dr_willisSarcasMo:  virtual box12:34
shantornVirtual box works well12:34
dr_willis!vbox12:35
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox12:35
SarcasMothanks :)12:35
shantornalso grab the extension pack and you will get usb212:35
mashbroWhat is the most trafficky channel on Freenode?12:36
dr_willis #flood  ;)12:36
dr_willisperhaps ask in #freenode12:36
L3topalvesjnr: sudo apt-get install --reinstall meep12:37
SarcasMoI'm here https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads I want to have the vb for ubuntu 12, do I pick i386 or AMD 64? and why?12:38
alvesjnrL3top, it worked12:38
alvesjnrthanks12:38
dr_willisSarcasMo:  you pick the one that matches your install12:38
L3topnp12:38
dr_willisdid you install 32 or 64bit ubuntu ;)12:38
SarcasMo32 bit12:39
dr_willisthats 386 then12:39
SarcasMoah oke :)12:39
bipulit's i386 for 32 bit dr_willis  ? am i right12:40
bipuldr_willis,  what is the Diffrence between i386 and i68612:41
ThinkT510bipul: age12:42
bipulThinkT510, ? age?12:42
ThinkT510bipul: indeed, i386 is older than i68612:42
dr_willis386, 486, 686,   ;)12:44
MonkeyDustand 586 = pentium, penta means 5 :)12:44
dr_willisthen they went pentium ? id hav e to refeer to wikipedi12:44
bipulThinkT510,  when i use this command "uname -ar" it shows me 2 things i386 and i686 why ?12:44
dr_willis8086 ;)12:44
MonkeyDustbut a number could not be patented, therefore, a word, pentium12:44
bipul8086 is very old processor12:45
dr_willisMonkeyDust:  i bet apple could do it. ;)12:45
dr_willisvery old? now you make me feel bad..12:45
bipuldr_willis, ? really oh i am sory it's very very new12:46
* dr_willis goes back to using cpm on his c6412:46
Cris22881hello12:51
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dr_willisbbl12:54
ethi. I'm looking to install ubuntu on unused disk space of a windows computer without a cd drive. If i read http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows correctly, the installer does not let me pick the unallocated space, it only lets me choose between drives. is this intended?12:55
ThinkT510et: avoid the windows installer, better to do it via usb12:56
ThinkT510!usb | et12:56
ubottuet: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:56
hillary_lhow install bluetooth in ubuntu 11.1012:56
etThinkT510: that requires an usb stick ;)12:57
ThinkT510hillary_l: it should be installed by default12:57
etbut ok.12:57
hillary_linstall but inactive12:57
ThinkT510hillary_l: sudo service bluetooth start12:57
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andrey_Hi all. I need help with USB Microphone Desktop device. I have integrated microphone of webcam, but I need high quality sound... My webcam working! But my USB microfone maybe work with webcam?? Thanks.13:03
andrey_Here?13:05
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Cris2281hello. Is there a way to install ubuntu on aspire z5610  and have full resolution on geforce g210m ?13:07
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scatterpHi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ?13:15
Fuzzlesly have unity now? is there a way to view my applications without search all the time?13:15
obxhdxFuzzles, just add the desired app to the launcher13:16
thomasprHow to install adobe-flashplugin 10.2.159.1-0natty1 ?13:16
Fuzzlesobxhdx, i know that i mean like a list to see what i have installed?13:16
obxhdxoh sorry, on the applications lens you can see all the installed apps… that's the only way I know13:17
Fuzzlesobxhdx, im running unity 2d as my computer wont run 3d so i dont have that option i dont think13:18
designbybeckFuzzles: have you tried 12.10 beta 2 yet ?13:19
designbybeckunity 2D went away Fuzzles, but that is a good thing because they have it working nicely in 12.10 for older machines13:19
obxhdxdesignbybeck, have you tried it yourself on an older machine?13:20
designbybeckyes obxhdx I'm running it on my netbook as well as I've done a live boot and install on an older HP13:21
Fuzzlesdesignbybeck, what you mean went away?13:21
designbybeckthe older HP only has 512mb13:21
designbybeckthe netbooks has 1gb13:21
designbybecklet me see if I can find the post Fuzzles13:21
Fuzzlesdesignbybeck, ok thanks13:21
ThinkT510Fuzzles: from 12.10 onwards there is no more unity2d13:21
designbybeckFuzzles:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-1013:21
designbybeckI've been quite please with Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 213:22
designbybeckonly 16 more days to go ;)13:22
obxhdxdesignbybeck, interesting! do you have dedicated video card on your hp?13:22
Fuzzlesdesignbybeck, so what am i going to do if they take it away :(13:22
designbybeckno obxhdx both video cards are from the mobo13:22
obxhdxcool!13:22
designbybeckit will just work Fuzzles13:22
designbybeckI think it is magic or something13:23
Fuzzlesdesignbybeck, what unity 3d?13:23
designbybeckreally try it out! go download the ISO13:23
ThinkT510!12.1013:23
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+113:23
designbybeckyes the new unity 3D has a rollback... using opengl iirc13:23
obxhdxactually, I'd recommend wo wait for the final release13:23
obxhdxbefore trying it13:23
obxhdxjust a few more days13:23
designbybecki meant as far as a liveboot test obxhdx you don't have to install it yet, but use go to #ubuntu+1 to talk more about it if you have more questions13:24
designbybeckI keep getting in trouble here ;)13:24
Fuzzlesye i was thinking about it any idea when its coming out and if i can upgrade properly withour breaking stuff i used linxmint for the past year and back then they had breakage when upgrading13:24
BluesKajFuzzles, do you have a / and /home partition?13:25
thomasprHow to install adobe-flashplugin 10.2.159.1-0natty1 ?13:26
Kryptronjhg13:27
ThinkT510!flash | thomaspr13:27
ubottuthomaspr: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash13:27
FuzzlesBluesKaj, i have 3 partitions ext4 extended and swap13:27
L3topthomaspr: You are looking for the last accellerated version I expect...13:28
thomasprI tried gnash but it doesn't work with midori :-(13:28
thomasprlast adobe version crashes midori :-(13:28
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L3topthomaspr:  http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html      link is hard to come across... good luck.13:30
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scatterpHi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install h13:34
scatterpow ever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do13:34
smjmdoes anyone else have mono sound output in Bit Trip Runner?13:34
ikoniascatterp: what version of ubuntu are you running13:35
smjmdoes anyone else have mono sound output in OpenAL?13:35
sebastian__hi, anyone know how to disable mDNS? because mdns prevents me from pinging .local adresses13:37
thomasprltop: Site leads me to Flash Player Download Center for supported Linux Operating Systems, where I only find the actual 11.2. which crashes midori :-(13:38
BluesKajthomaspr, download the latest linux flash player from adobe , extract it and place the libflashplayer.so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. get rid of the alternative flashplayer13:39
L3topthomaspr: scroll down... that is EVERY archived version of flash.13:39
L3tophttp://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html13:39
thomasprL3top, there is 11.2. and 10.1. - but seems to be windows versions ?13:40
L3topseems because it is a zip file?13:40
thomaspras adobe writes left of the version names13:41
primskiany knows anything about dnsmasq here? i'd like to set up mine dhcp-only, and just pass 8.8.8.8 as dns to clients, can this be done ?13:41
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MonkeyDustprimski  try ##networking13:44
primskiok thanks13:45
primskidouble # ?13:45
L3topthomaspr: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp_10.2.159.1_archive.zip download it. Open it. See for yourself.13:45
LoonaTickHi. Anyone know of a project that acts as a fileserver, that can save 100 million files in a redundant and sharded way? I would like to have it saved on 3 servers, be able to take backups and be able to grow to 10 billion files by adding more hardware13:45
BluesKajprimski, http://www.iceflatline.com/2010/02/how-to-install-and-configure-dnsmasq/13:46
L3topthomaspr: what I do, is just overwrite libflashplayer.so with the version I want for our hulu player, which brings back not only desktop interoperability but vdpau accel etc.13:46
sab0hi i am new in ubuntu, my wireless connection is showing disable, can any one please tell me how can i enable wireless in my ubuntu 10.04, thanks?13:46
primskiok thanks BluesKaj , i'll check it out13:47
FlowRisersab0: do you have the right adapter driver module ?13:48
FlowRisersab0: search for your own adapter model and see if anyone else is having problems13:48
BluesKajprimski, I use dns mask but I'm using a static IP  , otherwise I'd advise you further13:48
FlowRisersab0: most usually someone already has a module for it13:49
sab0FlowRiser, not sure but its broadcom STA wireless and i installed the propriety driver13:50
primskiok BluesKaj no worries, i got it running, just fine tunning now, will figure it out eventually13:50
BluesKajprimski, right13:51
FlowRisersab0, try older proprietary drivers if you can find any13:51
FlowRisersab0, or upgrade to 12.0413:51
sab0FlowRiser, i want to stay 10.04 for some period then will try to upgrade, can you please tell me how will i find the old driver ???13:52
FlowRisersab0, search on their website and on google13:53
ThinkT510!bcm | sab013:54
ubottusab0: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:54
vitimiti(^.^)/13:54
FlowRiserThinkT510, nice!13:54
MonkeyDustsab0  10.04 server ?13:54
DominciiH-hey guys, I was advised earlier to install Windows and dual boot Ubuntu with it for the playing of gaimz, I have windows but I don't have a disk driver (I do, I just don't know how to wire it up properly) and even if I did I don't have a CD big enough to hold the .iso thingy, could I possibly move it to one of my HDD's/SSD's and boot it from there? there is stuff on all of those disks already though, would I have to remove it?13:55
dr_willisDomincii: you are asjing how to boot a windows iso file?13:56
L3topDomincii: do you have a thumbdrive? Very easy to install from USB assuming your bios will boot to USB.13:56
designbybeckDomincii:  what do you mean "disk driver" ?13:56
DominciiI don't have a thumb drive big enough to hold it sadly13:56
* L3top assumes he means the ubuntu iso... 13:57
L3topguess not13:57
L3top /join ##windows13:57
FlowRiserL3top, omg, satan has a channel!13:57
dr_willisgrub2 can be configured to boot some iso files13:57
ikoniaFlowRiser: please don't13:57
ikoniait makes this channel look stupid with that sort of comment13:57
DominciiOnly my internal HDD, my external HDD, or my internal SSD, all of those have stuff already stored on them, if I try to boot a different OS from them?13:57
L3topDomincii: that is not a coherent question. What are you trying to install?13:58
FlowRiserikonia, yeah, i guess you're right13:58
DominciiAnd to restate, I current have Ubuntu 12.04 install13:58
Dominciiinstalled*13:58
dr_willisDomincii:  best would be go get a usb flash13:58
DominciiI want to install Windows 713:58
DominciiI have it as an .iso13:58
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L3topWe do not support that here Domincii. /join ##windows13:58
DominciiI'm told to put it on CD and boot from CD13:58
DominciiRight13:59
FlowRiserDomincii, search for a lightweight win7 install13:59
DominciiI see, thanks13:59
dr_willisDomincii: you can image ut to usb13:59
L3topDomincii: be forewarned that windows is going to blow up the MBR and you will have to reinstall grub etc13:59
L3topDomincii: typically you should install windows first, then ubuntu.13:59
ikoniaFlowRiser: what are you talking about a "light weight" windows install14:00
ikoniaFlowRiser: all windows installs are the same - core OS14:00
L3topI assume he means like performance edition etc... which are not official windows releases and not licensed.14:00
FlowRiserL3top, yup14:00
ikoniaright, so recommending illegal products, great14:01
L3topCant suggest people violate law here FlowRiser.14:01
DominciiMBR? what is that?14:01
ikoniaFlowRiser: please don't offer such suggestions14:01
L3topDomincii: Master Boot Record14:01
DominciiAah, right14:02
FlowRiserikonia, got it; It's funny, the only reason i installed Ubuntu was to hack into my school's server. From that moment i was hooked onto Ubuntu :D14:02
L3topDomincii: grub will allow you to boot into either windows or ubuntu or any number of things... windows boot loader only sees windows... it will not recognize your ubuntu install. Again I would recommend backing up your current /home directory, installing windows, then reinstalling ubuntu, and moving /home back or better yet, putting it on its own partition.14:03
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DominciiCould you possibly help me to do that?14:04
LorSamPau_wL3top, win7/8 loader can be placed on the grub14:04
L3topyes LorSamPau_w. I am evidently not being clear. Windows boot loader will not give you an option to boot into anything other than windows OS, versus grub.14:05
ThinkT510LorSamPau_w: no, grub chainloads the windows bootloader14:05
L3topDomincii: cp /home off onto one of your other drives in the machine. Install windows... then I will help you do anything you like when you get back to the ubuntu install.14:06
frybyeFlowRiser - I don't think you can expect help in commiting unlawfull acts on this irc channel.. btw I am a retired school IT professional.14:07
chris92L3top: wouldnt it be better to install windows, use livecd to chroot and just reinstall grub?14:07
L3topThat can be done as well... but this will require resizing the ubuntu install, formatting it to ntfs... I was just thinking this way was less error prone.14:08
L3topchris92: ^14:08
frybyeif you exclaim so clearly that your reason for this installation is to enable hacking into a school server - you are a bit off track here I feel...14:08
DominciiL3top I'm being told cpL omitting directory /home14:08
bazhangfrybye, lets move on14:08
frybyebazhang - I can see your point but this kid is not in line expecting help he declares is for school server hacking that can bring a school to its knees sometimes...14:09
chris92L3top: ahh didnt know what his hard drive setup was14:09
L3topDomincii: sudo cp -r /home /path/to/drive14:09
sarntamHi. I just installed the updates in Ubuntu 12.04 and grub-pc was updated. The update manager told me that there was a conflict in /etc/default/grub because I had previously modified that file, and now the update tried to override my changes. So I selected "show me a 3-way diff" in the combo box and clicked "next", but then the window just went away and I'm stuck with my old /etc/default/grub14:10
MonkeyDustor sudo rsync -avv --progress14:10
sarntamwhat can I do to see the changes that the update wanted to write to that file?14:10
dballesterwhen booting, if grub says "Error, out of partition" what exactly it means?14:10
L3topgood point MonkeyDust... I do not utilize that awesome utility enough.14:11
DarsVaedahey I try to use an ant copy task but it will just not overwrite even overwrite=true is set, any idea?14:11
L3topafk14:12
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DominciiL3top I've done that command, I moved it to my external HDD, when I input my password I didn't get a password correct or password incorrect message it just moved down to a blank space, however in my External HDD folder a file called System Volume Information was created14:13
mariafhoolaaaaaaa14:14
jiffe98hmm, wondering why the version of nagios in the ubuntu 12.04 repos is several years old even though there's been stable versions since14:14
mariaf:(14:14
ThinkT510!latest | jiffe9814:15
ubottujiffe98: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:15
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iDangerMouseMariaf you need help ?14:15
jiffe98ThinkT510: that's why I included the stable release statement14:15
jiffe98I just created a new machine for nagios and it turns out ubuntu installed the same version I installed on our current machine in 200814:16
bazhangjiffe98, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro. you can compile or look for a PPA if you wish to bypass package management14:16
ThinkT510jiffe98: what was the current stable release during april?14:16
jiffe98ThinkT510: 3.3.114:16
nikitisCan anyone tell me how to join the steam linux beta?14:17
DominciiIf I format my boot drive will I be able to install my Windows .iso onto it and restart to install Windows or will it mess everything up?14:17
chris92nikitis: its a closed beta for 1000 people invited by valve14:17
ThinkT510jiffe98: and what is in the repos?14:17
chris92nikitis: at this point, its not possible to join it14:17
jiffe98ThinkT510: 3.2.314:18
frybyenikitis - its a small by invitation beta as far as I know...14:18
nikitischris92: I applied by email to them a couple of weeks ago,14:18
chris92nikitis: if you didnt receive an answer, then you probably aren't invited14:18
nikitisthat would be sad.  I was a beta tester for original steam and have been wanting this since back then.14:19
jiffe98not that big a deal, I can install that myself if I need it, just trying to get a grasp of how these packages move along14:19
chris92nikitis: as far as I know, the beta didnt even start yet14:19
nikitischris92: i know, but invites have to go out before14:20
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chris92nikitis: they probably get sent on the same day via a steam gift + email14:20
frybyenikitis: here is an article ab out it (in German - use tlx service if needed.) http://www.golem.de/news/valve-steam-fuer-ubuntu-kommt-in-betaphase-1209-94794.html14:21
L3topDomincii: as you may have noticed I am going in and out. I am testing atm so I am going to continue to be in and out for the next 30 min or so.14:22
DominciiL3top no problem dude, thanks for your help so far, maybe I'll catch you later!14:22
chris92nikitis: there will be a signup form for the external beta, according to their blog14:23
chris92nikitis: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/14:23
grek1i write dolphin desktop action they run sh batsh script and i need ask user for parameter its  ok - kdialog  --inputbox ask but i dont have this reply in bash , i dont know how to read it - in mabnual i have "The string that is entered (or modified / accepted if default text is used) is returned on standard output. If the user chooses Cancel, no output is sent. " http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Shell_Scripting_with_KDE_14:24
decciHow can I decompile .so file14:24
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diverdudewhenever i try to sudo apt-get install something i get dependency errors. Can i somehow ask apt to also install required dependencies?14:34
BluesKajdiverdude, sudo apt-get -f install14:34
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diverdudeBluesKaj: i think that will just force the install...i dont think that will install the dependencies14:36
resureWhat is the right way to completely remove package (including init scripts and all it's configs; bitlbee for example)?14:37
MonkeyDustresure  try this    dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P14:37
PerkabaloHi I'm having problems with ubuntu, just installed, everythings fine, but I want to be able to connect to it remotely, installed X11VNC Server, I'm able to connect, but I'm getting a blank screen.14:38
compdocPerkabalo, a grey, checkerboard-like screen?14:39
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compdocor grid14:39
PerkabaloNope, just black and white box on top of the scrren14:40
compdocgood, we need as many as we can get14:40
BluesKajdiverdude, which app dependencies14:40
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diverdudeBluesKaj: ohhh a lot...whenever i do apt-get install it says   Depends: libqt4-dbus (...) but is not going to be installed. and similar for other libs14:41
os_hi14:43
os_how can i start a session in a particular language14:44
os_?14:44
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decciHow can I decompile .so file14:45
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layke__Potentially silly question... But can I switch out my drive with ubuntu into any other system? ie.. I'm going to replace my mobo/cpu and ram.. but keep my SSD.14:45
tsimpsondecci: decompile? in general you can't, though you can disassemble with objdump14:46
rumpe1layke__, yes, you can14:46
llutzlayke__: shouldn't be a problem14:46
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layke__Okay thanks. Years ago I had troubles with Windows, but wasn't sure if Ubuntu had similar hardware constraints in place.14:46
compdoclayke__, usually works fine14:46
layke__Don't know why they would exist anyway :)14:46
rumpe1layke__, except when you have a 64bit OS and try to put into a 32bit system...14:47
layke__Yeah of course rumpe1. I'll stick to the same 64,.14:47
lledethi, how do i add name servers to /etc/resolv.conf so they will still be there when i reboot? i've tried several ways and nothing is working14:47
compdoclayke__, you might have issues with networking when it adds another nic14:47
compdocit might not forget the old one14:47
llutzlayke__: if you change graphics-adapter it might be a bit tricky too14:47
MonkeyDust!resolvconf > llutz14:48
ubottullutz, please see my private message14:48
lledet!resolvconf > lledet14:48
ubottulledet, please see my private message14:48
layke__Yup cheers. Just wanted to make sure.14:48
leaftwigHow do I get rid of the Brasero my system claims already runs but I don't see?14:48
dballesterscenario: /dev/sda1 partition with root and /boot ( no boot partition ). Once system installed, tried to do /dev/sda1 smaller: fdisk /dev/sda and deleted partition 1, recreated with 50% of space. After reboot, when booting grub says "Error: out of partition"14:49
dballesterand impossible to boot14:49
leaftwignm got it killed14:49
lledetMonkeyDust: thanks14:49
Snakerhi14:50
dballesterin theory it should work if i respect the partitions first sector when recreating the partition14:50
leaftwighow long should it take to create an image checksum?14:50
leaftwigin brasero ._.14:51
Snakerhow do you change the contets of a file? trying to add a line but  says "could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list"14:51
jrib!sudo | Snaker14:51
ubottuSnaker: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo14:51
Perkabalocompdoc, got it to work now14:51
jribSnaker: what are you adding by the way?14:51
Snakerthe tor package repository14:52
compdocPerkabalo, I use vnc4server, so sorry I couldnt help14:52
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Snakeri dont know much linux commands so i dont know what to type after sudo14:53
chris92snaker: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"14:53
MonkeyDustSnaker  sudo apt-get install tor14:53
sachaelanyone notice that evince is getting slow as molasses lately? takes ages to render a page. the alternatives don't seem so good either...14:53
SnakerMonkeyDust: the repository thing provided with the system is not working correctly for some14:54
Snakerchris92: thanks will try it14:54
llutzSnaker: echo "deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org precise main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor.list14:54
MonkeyDustSnaker  the rhe repository thing? not working correctly?14:55
SnakerMonkeyDust: yeah its out of date like 99% of the package thjhings in software center14:55
MonkeyDustSnaker  ok, but out of the repos is not supported here14:56
Snakerllutz: should i enter what cchris92 said or what you just typed?14:56
ThinkT510Snaker: what version of ubuntu do you have?14:56
Snakerprecise14:56
MonkeyDustSnaker  bleeding edge tends to be unstable, that's why it's not in the repos14:56
ThinkT510Snaker: what exactly is out of date?14:56
llutzSnaker: i prefer to have single files for non-standard repos in sources.listd/* instead of a growing sources.list  file. it's your choice14:56
SnakerMonkeyDust: oh :O14:57
SnakerThinkT510: torproject.org doesnt recommend installing tor  through software center14:57
ThinkT510!tor | Snaker14:58
ubottuSnaker: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl14:58
lolekhello , who can check mu phpinfo ( corrcected configured webserver)14:59
Snakerllutz: ah, sounds like it requires a little knowledge about linux to do that. i dont mind that, but just going to register as anonymous as possible on some website so i installed ubuntu on a virtual machine and thought using tor would help a little. the mac address will stay the same but thats the best a newbie can do im guessing15:00
BluesKajdiverdude, this used to work in a lot of cases , sudo dpkg --configure -a , then , sudo apt-get install -f15:00
MonkeyDustSnaker  the Ghostery plugin blocks all trackers on websites, it makes you kind of anonymoes too15:00
SnakerMonkeyDust: never ever heard of it, are they both good?15:01
llutzSnaker: the way to add a repository has nothing to do with the usage of tor. Tor is an important project, unfortunately still lacking servers/bandwidth15:01
Snakerah ok15:02
sab0using ubuntu 10.04, wireless is showing disabled, can any one please help me to enable my wireless connection, adaptar is broadcom 4312...15:02
Snakerthanks for  the help guys15:02
samlhey,   xdg-open 'http://google.com'  opens firefox and chrome15:02
MonkeyDustSnaker  http://www.ghostery.com/15:02
ramprasadgkhi15:06
NcAanybody know of an alternative to "keyboardcast" that actually works in 12.04?15:06
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.04;  audio works fine... but when i plug the earphones in; i can't hear anything... how can i resolve this without restarting my computer??15:08
MonkeyDust"With keyboardcast you can send keystrokes to any number of windows you select simultaneously."15:08
MonkeyDustlooks interesting15:08
dballesteri used it to install Oracle RAC in several nodes, works like a champion15:08
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L3mce!bcm43xx | sab015:09
ubottusab0: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:09
sab0L3mce, can you please tell me how to install that?15:10
L3mcesab0: Read the link.15:10
diverdudeif i do dpkg -r virtualbox-4.2 the machine uninstalls virtualbox, but there is still /etc/init.d/vboxdrv and also the group called vboxusers. why is that not removed?15:10
L3mcesab0: Not being rude, just very busy, and it is all right there.15:10
llutzdiverdude: dpkg -P15:10
cfhowlettsab0: disabled wifi usually means the hardware switch has been flipped.15:11
thomasprL3top: yep, there in is the stuff for linux :-)15:11
llutzdiverdude: use -P/--purge if you want configs to be removed too.15:12
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diverdudellutz: aha ok...but group is still present15:12
taskb4rXmonad or awesomewm? Oponions?15:12
Kittenswhich flavour of ubuntu is the lightest on resources?15:12
taskb4r*opinions15:12
taskb4rLununtu15:12
KittensI want to switch down to fluxbox from whatever, but I want a good start as not to fubar15:13
thomasprBluesKaj: Having trouble with adobe's 11.2. :-(15:13
Kittensah damn15:13
jribKittens: install minimal and then install only what you use :x15:13
jrib!minimal | Kittens15:13
ubottuKittens: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:13
taskb4rYea. Even better15:13
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Kittensjrib: thank you, that is so much better15:13
qwhello all15:13
jribtaskb4r: use both and stick with the one you prefer15:14
qwhelp me please15:14
taskb4rInstall a lite wm like open box.15:14
DominciiI'm getting this error dpkg: error processing getlibs_2.06-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb (--install):15:14
Domincii cannot access archive: No such file or directory15:14
DominciiErrors were encountered while processing:15:14
Domincii getlibs_2.06-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb15:14
FloodBot1Domincii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:14
diverdudellutz: why is the voxusers group not being removed?15:14
llutzdiverdude: afaik is that depending on the packages prerm/postrm-scripts if groups/users will be removed or not. not sure15:14
jribDomincii: no idea what getlibs is15:14
qwnow i am install Macubuntu and i would like install kVirc help me please15:14
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.04;  audio works fine... but when i plug the earphones in; i can't hear anything... how can i resolve this without restarting my computer??15:14
Dominciihttp://askubuntu.com/questions/127848/wine-cant-find-gnome-keyring-pkcs11-so see the answer on this page15:15
KittensI'm just going to be making an emulator box for my room so I can play retro games while my videos encode and such15:15
diverdudellutz: so basically my system could still be completely full of crap which was not properly removed15:15
jribDomincii: what's your actual issue?15:15
resureStrange, ZNC doesn't connect to local bitlbee.15:16
llutzdiverdude: basically yes, but unlikely in real.  one more problem with 3rd-party packages15:16
DominciiI'm trying to install a 32bit library via getlibs15:16
Dominciifor WoW15:16
jribDomincii: why?15:16
DominciiBecause I can't run WoW without it freezing every two or three minutes15:16
diverdudellutz: thing is that 3rd party packages may be necessary because ubuntu is slow in getting new packs in the repo :(15:16
resureDomincii: it's break time15:17
taskb4rKittens: checkout wah arcade. Its a nice frontend for all sorts of emus15:17
Dominciiresure, pardon?15:17
llutzdiverdude: well, there are rolling-release distros...15:17
jribDomincii: are you following winehq appdb?15:17
Dominciiyes15:17
Dominciihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1256088/15:17
diverdudellutz: of ubuntu?15:17
Dominciii'm getting this message when i open wow via terminal15:17
llutzdiverdude: nope15:17
jribDomincii: can you link me to exactly what you are following at appdb?15:17
resureDomincii: that freezes are time for relaxing between small quests15:18
Dominciia 60 second freeze every couple of minutes makes the game essentially unplayable15:18
Dominciijrib http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2487815:19
jribDomincii: is getlibs mentioned there?15:19
DominciiNo, that's an answer I found here http://askubuntu.com/questions/127848/wine-cant-find-gnome-keyring-pkcs11-so15:19
jribDomincii: so how are you getting from appdb to there...?15:20
Dominciigoogle15:20
jribDomincii: just follow appdb15:20
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Dominciithe appdb area didn't mention anything about the problem i've encountered15:20
Dominciii followed it to the letter for my install15:20
Dominciibut there's nothing written about my specific problem15:20
jribDomincii: great.  So what's your specific problem?15:21
DominciiJrib, it's installed perfectly, it will open and I can log in etc, however it freezes every couple of minutes for a long period of time, usually 40-60 seconds15:22
jribDomincii: there's talk about that on the appdb page15:23
jribDomincii: what's the output of « apt-cache policy wine »?15:24
Dominciiwine:15:27
Domincii  Installed: 1.5.14-0ubuntu115:27
Domincii  Candidate: 1.5.14-0ubuntu115:27
Domincii  Version table:15:27
Domincii *** 1.5.14-0ubuntu1 015:27
FloodBot1Domincii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:27
Domincii        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages15:27
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crazydip<super>p turns off all external monitors, what programs controls this binding? its not compiz...15:28
max999hi. i am using ubuntu 12 and cant get my logitech g9x mouse wheel working. i uses the evdev driver, at least xorg.0.log tells me15:28
Dominciijrib, where on the appdb page should I be looking?15:28
jribDomincii: you can search the page for "freez"15:29
Dominciijrib, thanks, sorry.15:30
fruitfliesi'm looking for an IRC client for Ubuntu that is as user-friendly and featured as LimeChat for OS X.  for example, just some pre-installed themes and automatic nick highlighting would be nice.  :)15:31
ThinkT510fruitflies: try xchat15:31
Dominciijrib, it's telling me to downgrade wine from 1.5 to 1.4, how can i do that?15:31
jribDomincii: what's the output of « apt-cache policy wine »?15:31
Dominciijrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256151/15:32
jribDomincii: use ppa-purge on that ppa you have there15:32
max999can anyone help me? why is ubuntu using my the 2 extra buttons as a mouse wheel on my logitech g9x mouse instead of the real wheel?15:33
crazydip<super>p is set by what program? it mirrors/turns off my monitors15:33
fruitfliesThinkt510: ok, ty15:34
Dominciijrib, done15:35
jribDomincii: check that wine was downgraded15:35
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Slartmax999: from my limited experience with mice in linux it seems there are no difference between the mouse wheel and the other buttons.. rolling the wheel just sends repeated BUTTON 5 messages to the system (5 is just an example)15:37
Kittensis there a way to leave a message for someone in this channel?15:37
Dominciijrib according to wine --version it's still 1.5.1415:37
hungryhubbyhey people not yet solved my problem with wired network still not working15:37
jribDomincii: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy wine15:38
Slartmax999: so you need to find a way of telling the system that these buttons are a scroll wheel and not regular buttons.. I think this used to be configured in xorg.conf but these days I'm not sure any more15:38
cfhowletthungryhubby: restate the details15:38
hungryhubbycan somebody solve this problem iam trying out........using natty15:38
Dominciijrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256170/15:39
hungryhubbyoutput of some of errors here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1230368/15:39
max999slart: i found some hints to use  xorg.conf on google too but the lines people added there were not related to changing the way a button behaves15:39
jribDomincii: you haven't removed the ppa using ppa-purge15:39
crazydipstupid gnome devs and their hidden key shortcuts! why oh why are they not in the keyboard shortcut app? :(15:39
DominciiI copied http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/15:39
Dominciiand wrote sudo ppa-purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/15:39
BluesKajhungryhubby, have you run , sudo dhclient eth0 , or whatever your ethernet is called15:40
hungryhubbynetwork is blocked....15:40
Slartmax999: have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto15:40
jribDomincii: and?  What was the output?  I don't think that's the proper syntax15:40
Slartmax999: not sure if that's up to date but it might give you some ideas to try15:40
hivarhungryhubby: i wrote you pm15:40
jj995I've got a motherboard with only one SATA port, and both my DVD drive and hard drive are SATA -- to install Ubuntu from a live CD, can I boot with the DVD drive hooked up, let the system load up into memory, disconnect the DVD drive and hook up the harddrive?  will that work, or am I just going to risk shocking myself for no reason?15:40
BluesKajhungryhubby, run the command I posted and paste the output in pastebin pls15:41
Dominciijrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256171/15:41
hivar jj995: why not install from USB?15:41
hungryhubbyeth0 isnt showing up in the that....also when i trying to put MAC address inside wired device Mac number in network app iam getting grayed15:41
Slartjj995: no usb-ports where you could hook up an usb stick?15:41
max999slart: thanks that should help will try to remap15:41
jribDomincii: did you read it?15:41
fruitfliesjj995: afaik you need to read FROM the disc and write TO the hdd in order to install15:41
fruitfliesat the same time15:41
Slartjj995: (oh and to answer your question.. I'm not sure but I think it needs the disc during the install)15:42
Dominciijrib, apt-update didnt do anything15:42
jribDomincii: did you read what you just pasted?15:42
jj995Slart: thanks but my dumb motherboard doesn't appear to support booting from USB15:42
STMelon_------------> sudo apt-get update15:42
Dominciijrib yes15:42
jj995it does support booting from network, but those instructions seem sort of complicated15:42
jribDomincii: it says it couldn't remove the ppa you specified.  Try this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa15:42
Slartjj995: usb connected cd drive?15:42
Slartjj995: or you cant boot from that either?15:43
Dominciijrib it deleted loads of my stuff :(15:43
jribDomincii: it shouldn't do that without asking for confirmation15:44
Dominciijrib it said it was going to clear space in wine, I'm unsure as to why it deleted Skype, that was installed independently of Wine15:44
jribDomincii: I don't know.  You should be able to just install the packages back though15:45
Dominciijrib, never mind, it's all gone now (wine I mean) how do I reinstall as 1.4?15:45
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Praxion windows command line I can do dir sale*.txt, in ubuntu whats the equivalent of that with LS?  I figured a way around it doing ls | grep sale but thats not really the same and its a lot more typing15:46
PiciPraxi: ls sale*.txt15:47
edvehi ppl15:47
Praxihmm it didn't work for me Pici, let me check to make sure it wasn't a boneheaded moment15:47
max999slart: i can sucessfully map other buttons on my mouse wheel like rightclick and i can map it to (obviously) use the function of mouse wheel scrolling down ur up (button 4 / 5) but i didnt figure out yet, how to just make it use the scroll15:47
PiciPraxi: Remember that Linux is case sensitive.  Are you sure that your filenames aren't mixed case?15:48
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Praxiahh heres the problem, so in windows that command is 1 depth, in ubuntu its giving me stuff in sub folders and its organized badly15:48
jribDomincii: just installing wine should installing 1.415:48
jrib-ing15:48
Praxiguess I should say sub directories before someone stones me15:48
Pumpkin-Pici: ls sale*.txt will generally work, but the way it works in windows/linux is quite different. In windows, the program gets passed the *, and the program is responsible for managing that. In linux, when you do "ls sale*.txt", ls gets passed the arguments for EVERYTHING that matches it, so for example "ls *" on a directory with files "a", "b", "c" and a directory called "d" would be the same as "ls a b c d"15:49
Slartmax999: I've got no good answers for you.. it's been to long since I had to mess with the mouse buttons.. the last versions of ubuntu just got it working for me out of the box.. you can use xev to see what mouse button messages are sent when you click different stuff.. after that I guess googling and asking here might be your best options15:50
Pumpkin-since d is a directory, and "ls d" would list the contents of that directory, thats what you will get15:50
PiciPumpkin-: I'm aware, but as Praxi said sale*.txt, I figured that it wouldn't match a directory name.15:50
Pumpkin-I meant Praxi :)15:50
Pumpkin-damn you for both having names that start with P15:50
Pumpkin-it is something I find a lot of people struggle with at first15:51
qw[Russian]hello people15:51
PraxiLOL15:51
qw[Russian]help me plea15:51
jribPraxi: you probably just want ls -d15:51
MonkeyDustqw[Russian]  start with a question15:51
PiciPraxi: find might also do what you want if you have files with different cases, something like: find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -iname "file*txt"15:52
Praxihmm yes in the particular case I'm working on now, it is directories.  so -d is directory?15:52
qw[Russian]i would like install in Chromium Flash player15:52
qw[Russian]help me please15:52
MonkeyDust!flash15:52
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash15:52
twitchie!help | qw[Russian]15:52
ubottuqw[Russian]: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:52
Praxiya I'm pretty familiar with case problems Pici, I'm use to find / -iname hehe15:52
qw[Russian]maybe use command in konsole?15:52
jribPraxi: « ls directory » will list the contents of directory.  « ls -d directory » will just return "directory" (ls won't enter into the directory and list its contents)15:53
twitchie37 ping ftw15:53
scarrsI need a hand pls... I changed /etc/apache2/ports.conf to reflect the port I haveopen in my firewall but apache is not working (duh)15:54
PraxiI have a big directory couple hundred items, mostly folders at the root, few files, If I was on windows and did dir sale* it would show me directories and files, but only at the root.  How can I repeat that?  on my big directory if I do ls sale* I get everything in the subdirectories also, making the listing worse.  the -d helped, just trying to future proof :)15:54
BluesKajqw[Russian], which desktop are you using , for unity install ubuntu-restricted-extras, for kde , kubuntu-restricted-extras15:55
cireAre there any webcams to buy with native kernel support? Without the need for compiling a module etc.15:55
MonkeyDustcire  wrong channel15:55
Slartcire: there used to be a site listing different webcams and how well they work.. can't rememeber the url though15:55
Slart!webcam15:55
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras15:55
jribPraxi: future proof what?  What exactly are you doing with the listing?15:55
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Praxiif I want a list of files and directories in the root15:56
jribPraxi: ls15:56
MonkeyDustor ls /15:56
cireThank you, I will have a look thewre15:56
jribPraxi: or « ls -a » if you want the hidden ones too15:56
Praxils sale* returns things from all subdirectories15:56
SlartPraxi: why not go with  ls | grep -i "sale*"15:56
qw[Russian]i am not understand15:56
jribPraxi: why are you passing "sale*" if you want all the files and directories in the root?15:56
SlartPraxi: it might seem nasty and long but it's very flexible15:57
PraxiI want the windows behavior of dir sale* where it returns things matching sale from the current directory.  Sorry my root was a misnomer15:57
jribPraxi: ls -d sale*15:57
Praxithats only directories though isn't it?15:57
jribPraxi: no15:57
Praxiahh!15:57
confusedTomif i have different repositories in my sources.list that offer the same program, how do I chose which version gets installed?15:58
Praxithanks all! :)15:58
jjb123Hey everyone, quick question. How can I install an application from the repository as a different user? I want to install gitolite and have it run under a "git" user that I made. Any ideas?15:58
Praxiscarrs, I think your in the wrong channel for that, but have you checked your virtual directories in apache2.conf or any other conf files?15:58
Praxijjb123, su?15:59
Picijjb123: Unless the package was already configured to do that at install time, you can't. You'll just have to install and then change the configuration afterwards.15:59
lsj8925?15:59
jjb123Pici: Hum, could I use su to log in as that user and then apt-get install from there?16:00
tryy3is it possible to transfare a file from windows 7 to ubuntu when you dual-boot?16:00
Picijjb123: apt-get installs stuff for the entire system, it has nothing to do with what user your run it as.16:00
ThinkT510tryy3: yes, mount the windows partition16:00
lsj8925I want to learn python,which channel should i go?16:00
jriblsj8925: take one guess :)16:00
MonkeyDusttryy3  if you're in ubuntu, mount the ntfs partition, cp the files you need16:00
Praxitryy3, ubuntu can mount the windows partition, not so much if you want windows to see the file16:00
scarrsPraxi: ty but I just solved my problem :)16:01
jriblsj8925: (#python should be your guess)16:01
ThinkT510lsj8925: you've been told multiple times: /join #python16:01
lsj8925o16:01
Praxiwas I close scarrs? :)16:01
scarrsPraxi: yes you were16:01
Praxiwoot!16:01
scarrs:P16:01
tryy3ah okej thanks guys!16:02
grandal_primesoooo im trying to install things from playdeb.net16:02
grandal_primethe install this now button brings up the dialog window "Launch Application"16:03
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grandal_primehow do i edit what is available in that dialog box..cause the stuff that is in there..it does not work..none of it16:03
myherocan anyone guide me for any yahoo webcam client for ubuntu ?? pidgin and empathy do not support video over yahoo protocol16:04
ThinkT510grandal_prime: we don't support ppas here, ask in the playdeb forums16:04
grandal_primeand "save as download"  is not in the list...gdebi.gtk does notghint.16:04
grandal_primeright...i want to know about the Launch application dialog box...where do i adjust that info.16:04
myheroanyone help ??16:05
lsj8925ThinkT510: but it shows  I have no  right to speak16:05
cdavisHow can I get network-manager to not manage eth1 and eth2?16:05
twmbwhere does the /usr/games come from in my path?16:05
ThinkT510!register | lsj892516:05
ubottulsj8925: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode16:05
lsj8925ok! i will try it.16:06
myherohelp16:06
ikoniamyhero: you need to communicate better than tat16:07
myheroikonia: what ??16:07
ikoniamyhero: just saying "help" every 45 seconds won't help16:07
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myheroikonia: guide me for any yahoo webcam client for ubuntu ?? pidgin and empathy do not support video over yahoo protocol16:07
Cristian2281hello. Can anyone help  boot ubuntu in normal mode without bumblebee? I have only one graphic card (geforce g210M) and with nvidia-current all I get are artifacts16:08
ikoniamyhero: I don't know if yahoo has a webcam client for linux16:08
myheroikonia: yahoo doesn't has any client for any linux....but i am asking if any other client..\16:08
ikoniamyhero: then no, it's a closed source protocol16:08
MonkeyDustmyhero  there's Gyachi, i'm not familiar with it, tho16:09
paulus68I have 2 pc's connected to 2 routers on the same network with 2 different subnets I can ssh from my laptop 192.168.1.x to my server which is on 192.168.178.x but I am not able to ssh from my server into my laptop I get the error message Network is unreachable16:09
myheroikonia: i have googled some other clients supporting video over yahoo protocol but they have .tar.bz2....can u help in installing from tarball16:09
tryy3hi, i trying to boot my desktop with a ubuntu installation CD and its just blinking a _ in left upper corner and the fan is going on alot, is this normal?16:10
edveanyone is good with bind9 ?16:10
MonkeyDustmyhero  Gyachi has a .deb, but the newest seems to be for Karmic16:10
myheroMonkeyDust: yes i googled gyachi just now but it has .tar.bz2 and not deb...can you help in installing the tarball...newest is v1.2.11 released 2011-09-0316:11
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myheroikonia: look my msg to MonkeyDust16:12
ikoniawhy ?16:12
tryy3hi, i trying to boot my desktop with a ubuntu installation CD and its just blinking a _ in left upper corner and the fan is going on alot, is this normal?16:12
myheroMonkeyDust: ikonia i also found out OpenYMSG and GenY supporting video over yahoo protocol....can you help in installing the tarball ?16:13
MonkeyDust!nomodeset | tryy3 you mean this?16:13
ubottutryy3 you mean this?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:13
qw[Russian]i am download install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz help me please install16:14
GirlyGIrlqw[Russian]: You don't need that, do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in terminal16:14
myheroMonkeyDust: ikonia help in installing tarball16:15
tryy3MonkeyDust ubottu dont think so, it just got a blinking _ and i cant type anything16:15
Benkinoobyhi, i wanted to install libreoffice on ubuntu 10.04 and got this from commandline aptitude: No candidate version found for libreoffice Do i need a ppa for libre office on ubuntu 10.04?16:15
BluesKajGirlyGIrl , he just does what he wants then when it screws up , pleads for help16:15
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iDangerMouseKaj is a tree not ?16:16
BluesKajiDangerMouse, it's my first name16:16
iDangerMouseOkay a tree in Iran too16:17
MonkeyDusttryy3  tryy3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132  <-- scroll down to nomodeset16:17
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BluesKajiDangerMouse, in swedish it rhymes with sky16:18
confusedTomif i have different repositories in my sources.list that offer the same program, how do I chose which version gets installed?16:19
_yac_i'm fiddling with xen in ubuntu server 12.04. i have a working bridged network setup but want to try a routed setup. is it safe for the dom0's networking to alter the xend-config.sxp to this effect? also comment out xenbr0 and comment back in the standard eth0 fare. pifalls?16:19
_yac_s/pifalls/pitfalls16:19
BluesKajhence , the nick16:19
iDangerMouseBlueskaj Farsi is apline tree and ah Sweden is heaven on earth16:19
MonkeyDust_yac_  better ask in #ubuntu-server16:19
BluesKajiDangerMouse, well i live in Canada now16:20
iDangerMouseBlueskaj so do I Vaughan Ontario16:20
_yac_thanks MonkeyDust16:20
BluesKajiDangerMouse, interesting , are you visiting in pakistan atm16:21
iDangerMouseBlueskaj till December !16:21
keep_./quit16:24
patoalguien sabe como instalar una impresora HP en ubuntu16:27
Como|workno I will not make out with you16:27
MonkeyDust!es16:28
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:28
zauberparacelsusis there any way to throttle the Ubuntu update manager's bandwidth usage?  It's downloading updates and being way too greedy with bandwidth.  I'm getting ping times of at least 1600 milliseconds right now because of it.16:30
paolino73ciao16:32
paolino73list16:32
dfadeuryop16:33
qw[Russian]GirlyGirl http://pastebin.com/fG58fiyd16:34
jake_Hi16:35
jake_Can someone help me?16:35
LoonaTickzauberparacelsus: If you use the cli, trickle16:35
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zauberparacelsusLoonaTick: not using the CLI, it's the GUI version16:35
AlonzoTGI hate linux16:35
lsj8925why16:35
lsj8925AlonzoTG: why16:35
AlonzoTGMy main computer speakers go down, so I try to listen to Alex Jones on my eeepc...16:35
confusedTomthanks for not helping.16:36
AlonzoTGthen I discovered that no sound driver was loaded.16:36
AlonzoTGeven though its just a basic intel chipset.16:36
AlonzoTGno sound. =(16:36
GirlyGIrlqw[Russian]: Ubuntu maverick is not supported any more, update to a newer release16:36
AlonzoTGno usable utilities either.16:36
GirlyGIrl!eol | qw[Russian]16:36
ubottuqw[Russian]: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:36
lsj8925sorry to hear that16:36
AlonzoTGand its slow to the point of being unusable...16:37
AlonzoTGYes it's an early model eeepc,16:37
LoonaTickzauberparacelsus: Then I don't know, sorry. Perhaps you can change the path to the thing in your menu bar and still add trickle? I never tried but think trickle should also work for GUI applications16:37
AlonzoTGbut I have a much older, much slower DOS computer that is blistering fast in comparison...16:37
zauberparacelsuskk16:37
cdavisHow can I get network-manager to not manage eth1 and eth2?16:37
mneptokAlonzoTG: using Ubuntu? or a derivative?16:39
qw[Russian]help me please update system16:39
AlonzoTGyeah, ubuntu, it was hard getting it on a 4 gb root partition (+ 8gb USB), but I managed.16:39
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brontosaurusrexqw[Russian], sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:39
truexfan81why would a keyring pass created in mate not be accepted in xfce?16:40
mneptokAlonzoTG: there used to be Ubuntu Netbook Remix for netbooks. the full Ubuntu desktop is going to perform a la Windows 7. use Lubuntu or Xubuntu, or learn enough to do a minimal install and install a very lightweight desktop environment.16:40
DominciiCould someone give me some help with POL? or is there an appropriate irc for that?16:41
MonkeyDustwhat's POL?16:43
myheroMonkeyDust: how to other channel with this channel opened  ?16:43
mneptokDomincii: /join #playonlinux16:43
myherohow to join*16:43
MonkeyDustmyhero  type /join #other_channel16:44
myheroMonkeyDust: will this channel be closed or it will also be opened side by side ?16:44
MonkeyDustmyhero  side by side16:45
myheroMonkeyDust: yea did it...it opened side by side....thnx16:45
myheroMonkeyDust: what is this - [22:15] BluesKaj [BluesKaj@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-phualngqclvqqmgp] requested CTCP VERSION from myhero: ??16:46
BluesKajit tells me which irc client you are running , myhero16:47
myheroBluesKaj: ok...i am on browser webchat irc16:47
BluesKajyes16:48
myherois there any guide on how to install from tarball and how to install ppa ?16:48
OnlyMAJi can't use vpn & socks.which proxy you offer ??16:48
OnlyMAJi can't use vpn & socks.which proxy you offer ??16:48
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reedwhat filesystem on SSD? seems that it makes no difference, just double checking16:49
myheroBluesKaj: is there any guide on how to install from tarball and how to install ppa ?16:49
BluesKaj!ppa | myhero16:50
ubottumyhero: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:50
myhero!addppa16:51
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details16:51
BluesKaj!tar | myhero16:52
ubottumyhero: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression16:52
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myheroBluesKaj: but how to install from tarball ?16:52
reedmyhero, it depends on the content of the tarball16:53
reedmyhero, a tarball is like a zip file, it may contain a binary executable or source code that needs to be built16:53
BluesKajmyhero, there is usually a readme file, an install text file to guide installation16:54
myheroreed: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gyachi/ BluesKaj this is the tarball...i want to install it....i am doing as said in the install text file but still problems16:55
BluesKajmyhero, if you can find a deb version of the same file it would be much easier that having to compile16:55
myheroBluesKaj: i looked for deb but looks like its not available16:56
llutzmyhero: " Last Update: 2011-09-03" are you sure you want to use that?16:57
reedan IRC client?16:57
BluesKajmyhero, then you need to install build-essential and  perhaps cmake as well , these are required to compile apps from source16:57
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llutz!compile | myhero16:57
ubottumyhero: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall16:57
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llutz!checkinstall | myhero16:57
ubottumyhero: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!16:57
AndChat|336756you guys eating?16:58
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myherollutz: BluesKaj if u can find any newer pre compiled versions coz i looked for them but to no avail. and i need to learn this tarball coz everytime it comes from somewhere or the other16:59
hal1could someone tell me the best way to disable avahi, please?16:59
jticketSpeech disabled.17:00
myherollutz: BluesKaj - MonkeyDust recommended a deb version but its too old and for karmic17:00
BluesKajmyhero, like i said extract the file and look for the "Readme" and "Install" text files in the extracted folder , these are very straight forward instructions and easy to follow17:01
sayerssudo dpkg -i test.deb17:01
jticketDisabled freenode speech.17:02
myheroalso one question - does compiling app on local system gives a better and smoother performing app as compared to pre-compiled deb or ppa build ?17:02
myheroi do sudo dpkg -E -G -i *.deb17:02
bekksmyhero: No.17:03
BluesKajmyhero, not really , they're just packaged differently , unless of course one is newer than the other17:03
myherobekks: no for what ? my question or my pkg command option ?17:03
myherodpkg*17:03
myheroBluesKaj: ok17:04
bekksmyhero: On your question17:04
myherook17:04
GycklarnIs anyone here good with shell scripting? I want to write an "if" statements like the following pseudo-code: "if $variable is either A, B org C, then..." Anyone know the easiest way to do this?17:06
reedmyhero, you don't need to build from source in modern systems... it's time wasted, unless you're learning how to build from source :)17:07
Gycklarns/org/or17:07
ikoniaGycklarn: a "case"17:07
brontosaurusrexGycklarn, /j #bash17:07
Gycklarnikonia, ty. brontosaurusrex, I'll take a look, thanks!17:07
myheroreed: i really wanna learn coz where ever you go...its not necessary that you will have deb or ppa but you will get the tarball for sure17:08
reedmyhero, never had to deal with a tarball since 199817:08
reedmyhero, modern distributions have all the software you need :) and it comes in a very nice 'app store' fashion17:09
reedif the software is not packaged is usually a good sign that it's crap17:09
myheroreed: problem is that apps get updated by makers and on their site with tarball but it stays outdated on repos for a long time, so its looking like everyone should have the knowledge of handling tarball17:09
wilee-nileereed, Could you generalize the fud just a little more to convince everyone.17:10
azmhello,  Itried to isntall ubuntu twice on different partitions andeven crearted separate /boot but after installation it alawys loads windows 717:10
azmwithout any grub17:10
azmI tried the chroot metoohd/live cd method17:11
azmeverything17:11
myheroreed: yea you are right bu this is not necessary on all occassions...like if you want winrar for ubuntu and when you go on their site then there is no deb or ppa available but what you get is tarball17:11
azmwhen I installed ubuntu in past it always automatucally installed grub17:11
azmwhy not now ?17:11
reedmyhero, that's my point, you don't need winrar17:12
reedmyhero, install unrar and all your rars will uncompress with the normal compress application from gnome/kde whatever17:12
RiXtErHello all, is there a way through apt to upgrade to 12.10 yet?17:12
wilee-nileeazm, download this to a live cd, run the bootinfo summary and post the http where its at. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair17:13
myheroreed: you don't need it and maybe some others too...but think in general.....i have switched from win to linux recently and i love winrar so besides i don't need it but stilli want to keep it....just feels a lil bit at home win feeling17:14
wilee-nileeazm, The bootscript will cut through the 20 questions and outline your setup so we can actually help.17:14
reedmyhero, nobody needs winrar on Ubuntu! that's my point. If it's not packaged, it's not needed because Ubuntu has its own native/better way to deal with that17:15
reedmyhero, I understood you switched recently, you need to learn the new way :)17:15
wilee-nileeRiXtEr, I don't believe so, you might ask on the development channel #ubuntu+117:16
reedand the new way is: search for software in the software center, not on google... Ubuntu has it all17:16
RiXtErwilee-nilee, thanks.17:16
myheroreed: yes anyways thats the whole reason behind learning tarball17:16
myheroreed: winrar was just an example17:17
reedmyhero, tarball are *not* necessary either17:17
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reedmyhero, you need an IRC client: xchat-gnome17:17
myheroreed: means ?17:17
MonkeyDustmyhero  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression17:17
reedmyhero, if you're studying how to develop software then go ahead and start tooling with source code17:17
myheroreed: why ? is this webchat not enough ? i have irssi installed17:18
reedmyhero, but if you just need an IRC client, a compress/uncompress for rar files, anything search in  the Software Center17:18
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jaslapmsg nickserv identify 911my2rightlegs17:19
reedif that fails, search on Google but whatever you find, if it's not packaged for Ubuntu usually it means it's bad software or too young to be trusted17:19
reedjaslap, change your password :)17:19
jaslap:(17:19
gordonjcpjaslap: fayle17:19
myheroreed: ok i get your point17:20
gordonjcpjaslap: fwiw I've never been convinced about 911s either17:20
gordonjcpjaslap: or any other sort of Porsche17:20
jaslapeh while that is a nice car, it's irrelevant17:21
qw[Russian]help me i didn't see in desktop gadjet17:25
jaslapwell, it's a good thing that wasn17:26
jaslapt17:26
jaslapmy bank password :)17:26
martin__2hi :017:30
martin__2* :)17:30
BluesKajqw[Russian], until you learn to follow suggestions/instructions , most prople aren't going to help you since you don't follow them the first time.17:30
Kittenssure do love this slow installation17:31
Kittensoh well17:31
martin__2quit17:33
Lord_Zerowhats the difference between /etc/motd and /run/motd?17:37
doug1Anyone know how I can get dch to turn 1.0.9 into 1.0.10...? You wouldn't think it's hard, but ...17:37
Lord_Zerodoug1: find a .deb and instal it with dpkg perhaps?17:37
doug1Lord_Zero: Sorry?17:38
edgyHi, I want to configure my laptop as a hotspot for my mobile so I from network options I added a new connection and made it share and now it got an ip address, but when I scan from my mobile I don't see it17:40
trismdoug1: dch -v 1.0.10; ? the manpage says it should increment with -i for native packages but I'm still getting ubuntu1 in precise so not sure otherwise17:40
infosocietygood afternoon everyone.17:42
infosocietydoes anyone have time to help me for a minute?17:42
infosocietyquick question about removing a file from my source list17:43
wilee-nileeinfosociety, This channel works as ask the specific question not a plea for help.17:43
infosocietyfair enough.17:44
infosocietyunable to delete a file from etc/sources.list.d/17:44
doug1trism: yeah, -i does weird stuff.17:44
doug1trism: it wants to turn 1.0.9 into 1.0.9ubuntu1 ....17:44
wilee-nileeinfosociety, several methods here. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html17:45
g0hwwhiya. I'm using 12.04 on x86_64.  i've been experiencing crackling sounds when playing Kerbal Space Program in wine for a while, but their quite faint compared to the roar of rocket engines and explosions, so I've not been to bothered by them.  Now I'm feeding my ham radio transmitter  with with soundcard generated  audio and it is being transmitted along with significant crackling sounds.  I've read reports of this issue on 64 bit systems17:46
g0hww, but seen no conclusive solutions.  Any ideas?17:46
infosocietyalright, tyvm will start to read and hopefully it will answer my question.. very much appreciated.17:46
xocolatl_hi, I have an interesting problem.  since yesterday (or maybe the day before) my ubuntu 12.04 won't keep the screen off.  I leave the lid up on my laptop and after a few minutes of inactivity the screen goes out (normal) but then a minute later it comes back on (not normal), and then off and on again forever.  please help fix17:48
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xocolatl_I do not recall changing any settings recently17:48
xocolatl_perhaps a recent unity update did it?17:48
wilee-nileexocolatl_17:49
wilee-nilee\17:49
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xocolatl_wilee-nilee, yes?17:50
wilee-nileexocolatl_ sorry mistaken enter press. ;)17:50
xocolatl_no problem.  do you have any idea what I can look at for this problem?17:51
wilee-nileexocolatl_, Not really sorry.17:51
xocolatl_kthx17:51
doug1God knows why ubuntu packaging is so damned complicated.17:52
crizisdoug1,  checkinstall -D -y = easy :D17:53
snypehi17:53
snypewhere can i find some hacker help?17:53
xanguanycsd: wrong channel, wrong network :)17:53
repigozМДК17:54
wilee-nileesnype, be prepared to be pwnd if you do. ;)17:54
doug1crizis: Dunno what that is.17:54
fluitfriesi am using UNetBootin to make a USB with Edubuntu.  can someone please tell me what partition scheme and filesystem type i need to have on the USB??17:55
LoOoDDoes anyone know why this part of the preseed for raid isn't picking up the mount options? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256483/17:55
crizisdoug1, doesn't really make "proper" packages with dependensies, but good for your own usage17:55
crizisdoug1, replace 'make install' with 'checkinstall -D -y' and you get .deb out of it17:55
xanguafluitfries: fat32 should be enought, remember Unetbootin will wipe all the data in the usb stick17:56
fluitfriesxangua, master boot record, and fat32?17:58
fluitfriesxangua, unetbootin doesn't seem to like my ubuntu-created ntfs :(17:58
oopepeHi, i dont have access to ubuntu atm. Could someone post the /etc/default/tomcat7 file somewhere please?18:00
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Doxinwhat's the idiom for compiling something in a build dir? I recal cding to the build dir and then invoking make in the source dir somehow. anyone got any pointers?18:01
doug1crizis: oh... awesome.... yet another toolchain...18:01
bobweaverDoxin,  what  are you using ? cmake autotools ?18:02
Doxinbobweaver: i'm not quite sure, it's not my code.18:03
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Doxinbobweaver: what I'd usually do is just ./configure; make;18:04
bobweaverDoxin,  it is good to keep the build dir clean for when you want to package easy way with cmake would be to go to source dir and mkdir build ; cd build  ; cmake ../  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/path_were_it_installs       then you can clean up with a simple rm build18:04
bobweaverDoxin,  where did you get the code ?18:05
bobweaverDoxin,  can I see the it ?18:05
Doxinbobweaver: trying to compile gcc at the moment if it helps18:05
Doxinbobweaver: so ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/mirror/languages/gcc/releases/gcc-4.7.2/gcc-4.7.2.tar.bz2 [large download]18:05
ikoniaDoxin: why are you building gcc ?18:06
bobweaverWhat you are building gcc ? why ?18:06
Doxinikonia: because I can.18:06
ikoniaDoxin: why ?18:06
Gallomimiaexcuse me i'm trying to get a quick answer about the better-than-cron services such as inetd available in ubuntu server 12.04. more likely i just want to know what's installed by default18:06
ikoniaDoxin: and you can't, that's why you're asking in here18:06
gyre007can anyone tell me why in the heck does the following logrotate not work...Im banging my head against the table...https://gist.github.com/382183618:06
Doxinikonia: I can, I just need some help on a specific nicety18:06
luistwhere can i put a script to run on startup?18:06
ikoniaDoxin: why are you doing this ?18:06
gyre007running out of ideas...even when I force it by running logrotate mongodb....still the mongo file is not rotated18:06
ikoniaDoxin: gcc is pacakged for ubuntu18:07
gyre007arrgh18:07
bobweaverDoxin,  you can install from repo  and  sudo update-alternatives --config gcc18:07
ikoniaDoxin: you can just install the package18:07
Gallomimiaalso i have a failure in motd- service and don't understand how to fix18:07
Doxinikonia: I know,18:07
Doxinikonia: I *want* to compile gcc18:07
ikoniaDoxin: why ?18:07
Gallomimialuist: you COULD make a crontab that says @restart command18:07
Doxinikonia: because why not?18:07
ikoniaDoxin: for what purpose, it can have a serious impact onyour machine18:07
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ikoniaDoxin: why do something like that for no-reason, you must have a reason18:07
Doxinikonia: I'll make sure to use a chroot18:07
bobweaverikonia,  +1 on the impact that it can have18:08
ikoniaDoxin: why do this though ? what value do you hope to get18:08
Gallomimiano that's a terrible premise18:08
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Doxinikonia: why is this important?18:08
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Gallomimiaif you want to do something for the sake of doing it do it.18:08
luistGallomimia: well what about rc.d? isnt it better?18:08
ikoniaDoxin: why can you just not answer as people with experience may have other options if you explain what you are trying to do and why18:08
lcars47anyone know where I can get a voice stress analysis package?18:08
Doxinikonia: I'm trying to compile gcc.18:08
ikoniaDoxin: what version of ubuntu is this ?18:08
Doxinikonia: 1218:08
ikoniaDoxin: why are you trying to build gcc, to what end ?18:08
ikonia!info gcc18:09
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.112ubuntu5)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 41 kB18:09
Doxinikonia: for fun and for profit18:09
ikoniaDoxin: please give a real answer, I don't know why you are being so evasive18:09
Gallomimiaand also inet.d and someone suggested using xinetd which i've dabbled in on an old mac distro18:09
Doxinikonia: for the same reason I built a jet engine in my back yard. I'm not being evasive, I have no other reason than "because why not".18:09
Gallomimiaits a good reason.18:10
ikoniaDoxin: you're on your own then, people don't just do this for no-reason18:10
Gallomimiaawesome attitude18:10
ikoniathere must be something , a learning exercise, a benifit you think you may get18:10
Gallomimiawe need more people like ikonia on irc18:10
lcars47I do crazy stuff for no reason also.18:10
Doxinikonia: WHY do you need to know this? it is in no way relevant to the answer18:10
Gallomimiaikonia: everything you do is a learning experience. even reading this channel18:10
Doxinikonia: it has no benefit besides knowing how to do it.18:11
bobweaverDoxin,  just set up the confiure file to install to where you want like a sandbox but then again this is gcc so that is hard18:11
MasterOfDisasterDoxin: did you try starting with the src deb? IIRC the gcc configure script is nasty18:11
pigliti get the following:18:11
piglitudevd [93] worker 102 terminated by signal 11 (segmentation fault)18:11
qw[Russian]help me after update and upgrade my OS is very very brakes, to be exact a sound! and picture!18:11
DoxinMasduqe|Off: every configure script is nasty. I started with a source tarball18:11
bobweaverconfigure --prefix=/some./place18:11
Doxinbobweaver: that's just the install dir though, isn't it?18:11
ikoniaDoxin: the documentation for building gc is on gnu.org18:11
piglitudevd [93] worker [102] failed while handling /devices/pnp0/00:0118:11
trismDoxin: if you are just curious, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/introduction.html walks you through building the whole toolchain, but kind of offtopic here18:11
bobweaverDoxin,  correct18:11
ikoniaDoxin: if you want to do it because you can - I suggest you read this18:12
piglitanyone got a idea what to do with it?18:12
ikoniatrism: that's not a good idea18:12
rhizmoewhy do i have so much trouble with copy/paste? seems like most apps don't respond to either ^v/c nor ctrl-shift v/c18:12
rhizmoedo i have to go back to the 80s and use shift-del?18:12
Doxintrism: hmm, was hoping for a shorter answer, but thanks :P18:12
MasterOfDisasterrhizmoe: select with mouse -> press middle mouse button to paste18:13
MasterOfDisasterrhizmoe: easy enough?18:13
ikoniaDoxin: if you follow that link from trism your gcc will not be sane18:13
g105bHi all. When out with my laptop I want to communicate within my office LAN as if I were there - is this what a VPN is for?18:13
ikoniaDoxin: be warned18:13
ehi all18:13
MasterOfDisasterg105b: yes18:13
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trismikonia: it doesn't replace the system toolchain18:14
bobweaverDoxin,  I also say that this is a good read http://developer.gnome.org/anjuta-build-tutorial/3.2/anjuta-build-tutorial.html18:14
ikoniatrism: I didn't say it did18:14
bobweaverthere is also a great autotools book out there18:14
Gallomimiaq105b that is one of VPN's many uses18:14
g105bok, so to connect to my office network via a VPN, do I need a VPN server or can I just use my office's router?18:14
Guest18869I have a question, ho is ready to help ?:)18:14
Gallomimiadepends how sophistocated it is18:14
Doxinbobweaver: thanks18:14
bobweaverthough auto tools is kinda off topic but it is out there and it is great18:14
bobweaverDoxin,  ^^18:14
wilee-nilee!help > Guest1886918:15
ubottuGuest18869, please see my private message18:15
Gallomimiag105b a simple box which you have access to on the LAN in the office would suffice as your "server"18:15
xanguarhizmoe: use a clipboard manager :)18:15
CyberspaceloaDoxin: thanks for being persistent, because now I have some more documentation to read through18:15
DoxinCyberspaceloa: hm?18:15
bobweaverDoxin,  for what it is worth I just got done reading this http://books.google.com/books?id=HBbKghM2fGYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=autotools+book&source=bl&ots=wYIYKRhPom&sig=JveVLOxWuuGPMC5DMZM3V1Qs2Ao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PC9rUPm7O-y30QHMk4GwDQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=autotools%20book&f=false               and it was a great book !!18:16
g105bGallomimia, great, so I need to install VPN server software onto this box?18:16
Guest18869anyone has a hp6910p with radeon graphics and ubuntu 12.10 installed?18:16
Doxinbobweaver: found my answer though, thanks.18:16
MasterOfDisasterg105b: as Gallomimia implied, ssh can be rigged to do this: http://www.math.hmc.edu/computing/support/ssh/vpn/18:16
CyberspaceloaDoxin: I'm just sympathizing that people are acting like you're crazy or something, when you're experimenting18:17
CyberspaceloaDoxin: however, I hope you have a spare box to mess around with this stuff18:17
MasterOfDisasterg105b: let the title be a warning though :)18:17
wilee-nileeGuest18869, Please address the actual problem in the form of a question, that is how the channel works. ;)18:17
Gallomimiathanks for that MasterOfDisaster. saving18:17
bobweaverCyberspaceloa,  have you ever compiled gcc ?18:17
ineedguruhu anybody18:18
ineedguruhi18:18
Cyberspaceloabobweaver: no, I can't afford to mess with my system right now18:18
g105bMasterOfDisaster: thanks... I've never dealt with VPN before so this is all new to me. Trouble is, in the office there may be no PCs turned on, only printers/network drives/etc (these are the devices I will want access to)18:18
Gallomimiahi18:18
Cyberspaceloabobweaver: however, I wouldn't mind messing around with it out of curiosity at a later stage18:18
blackboxer.18:18
Gallomimiasome network drives are capable of this capability18:18
DoxinCyberspaceloa: I know how to make it not break stuff :P18:18
Gallomimiabut the router is what you are going to need to mess with as primary. to open ports obviously18:19
DoxinCyberspaceloa: and a reinstall doesn't take too long anyways.18:19
MasterOfDisasterg105b: ususally you have a VPN node/server/box dedicated to provide an entry point into a remote network18:19
Gallomimiasome routers can VPN, some claim they can and fail miserably, and some don't even try18:19
g105bMasterOfDisaster: ok I understand. Maybe I would want to use the office connection as proxy?18:19
bobweaverCyberspaceloa,  yeah it is not a good idea because so many things use it. Like I had to compile 3.X the other day for HTK and lets just say that it was not the easy thing to do and HTK is still not working correctly18:19
ineedguruexcuse me do you know wher i can speak armenia?)18:19
Gallomimiayour office router might be slightly sophisticated and only allow VPN as a client. in which case set up a box in your house to be the server18:19
bobweaver!armenia18:20
ineedguruyes18:20
MasterOfDisasterg105b: as suggested, a router capable of running a sshd can be used for this. a more sane approach would be openvpn, or something like a cisco asa vpn gateway18:20
Cyberspaceloabobweaver: yeah, I wouldn't even attempt on a machine that I need to consistently work18:20
Gallomimiabut that might route all traffic from the office into the house. in which case you can get fired for breaking corporate network security18:20
MasterOfDisasterg105b: depending, of course, on intended usage18:20
Gallomimiaif you can't keep computers on in the office, consider using one of these: www.raspberrypi.com18:20
bobweaverineedguru,  I am sure that there is a channel what it is on the other hand IDK18:20
bobweaver!ar | ineedguru18:21
ubottuineedguru: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe18:21
g105bGallomimia: I have one of those!18:21
bobweavernopr18:21
ineedguruups18:21
Gallomimiai do too18:21
Gallomimiause it as your server. put it in a nice case and lay it next to the router18:21
Gallomimiacall it "MAIL" or something. put a label on it and say its important don't unplug18:21
MasterOfDisasterg105b, Gallomimia: lucky. mine still hasn't shipped :)18:21
bobweaverGallomimia,  legos are awesome for PI18:21
Gallomimiareally? i've had it for months18:22
Gallomimiai heard!18:22
ineedguruthnx18:22
Gallomimiado you know a link to a design for a case?18:22
g105bGallomimia: So I can use the PI as a VPN server in the office?18:22
Gallomimiaits a PC right?18:22
forgotmynickDoes Ubuntu support Intel i7 3930K ?18:22
Gallomimiait uses low power and people won't notice it as a computer that's on to be shut down18:22
MasterOfDisasterg105b: yes18:22
bobweaverGallomimia,  http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/cases18:23
gordonjcpGallomimia: it's not very fast18:23
gordonjcpGallomimia: well, compared to a "normal" desktop18:23
gordonjcpGallomimia: it doesn't cost anything to try though18:23
Gallomimiawho cares all he wants it for is vpn routing18:23
ineedguruaim sory one more. where i can read good book for linux administration? but whit many practical exemples?18:23
xangua!ot | ineedguru18:24
ubottuineedguru: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:24
bobweaverineedguru,  there are books in the softwarecenter18:24
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g105bI'll start playing with my PI right away - all I've been using it for is playing video on my home TV, waiting for something useful to come up ... here it is :)18:24
jackdupineedguru, http://www.tldp.org18:24
willdabeastQuestion, I am trying to create a bootable win xp usb to use through Virtual Box. Can you use usb's to boot in Virtual Box?18:24
ineedguruthank you jackdup18:25
llutzineedguru: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/18:25
bobweaverwildc4rd,  can you mount the image from the usb on a loop and then press f12 when booting virtual box ?18:25
willdabeastbobweaver are you talking to me?18:26
bobweaversorry willdabeast18:26
bobweaverwilldabeast,  yeah18:26
willdabeastbobweaver - well as of now i have just copied the files from a windows xp install disk over to a NTFS Boot flagged usb, seeing if that will work too18:27
fluitfrieswilldabeast, i think you can do all that, i would use unetbootin to make your usb tho18:27
fluitfrieswilldabeast, then tell your VM to boot off the USB18:27
willdabeastfluitfries VM doesn't have a usb boot option I don't think, as far as the settings go. I don't know about F12 yet during boot18:28
fluitfrieswilldabeast, for USB support you need to make an empty filter in the machine as well18:28
fluitfrieswilldabeast, i've booted virtualbox off lots of stuff, i'd be surprised if it could not do that.18:28
willdabeastfluitfries yea I got that done, will unetbootin allow me to create a windows xp install? I thought it was only for linux installs18:29
fluitfriesalso when you boot your VM there is a funtion key to press for a boot-time menu as well18:29
fluitfrieswilldabeast, yes, it claims to do so.18:29
ineedguru!armenia18:29
bobweaverwilldabeast,  that is why I say plug the usb in and mount the iso then set the cd drive in the VBox to be the usb mounted iso ? maybe ? then On boot you can press f12 or you can set in settings18:29
CyberGabberIf he's using the OSE-version of Virtualbox, there is no USB option i believe.18:29
bobweaver!am | ineedguru18:30
fluitfriesCyberGabber, yea, that may be true.18:30
willdabeastI don't think its ose... how do I check18:30
ineedguru!am | ineedguru18:30
ineedguru=)18:30
fluitfriesbobweaver, he shouldn't need to fool vbox, it should be capable of usb boot.18:31
xangua!en | bobweaver: ineedguru stop guessing, there seems to be no 'armenia' channel18:31
ubottubobweaver: ineedguru stop guessing, there seems to be no 'armenia' channel: Certain Ubuntu IRC channels are English only.  For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:31
xanguaat least not an ubuntu related18:31
thebananafishhey all I followed a guide on stackexchange to secure sftp and chroot it. but now I can't ssh in as anyone18:31
bobweaverxangua,  yeah I was looking and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport says am is it18:31
thebananafishluckily I have webmin so I can still edit the config18:31
willdabeastSo how do I check if it is OSE?18:31
fluitfrieswilldabeast, also remember that you don't need to boot via USB to install a VM, you can simply use the ISO file...18:31
xanguawilldabeast: did you install it from ubuntu repository¿18:32
fluitfrieswilldabeast, probably in the about menu, or look at the package you used for install18:32
willdabeastfluitfries The problem is getting the iso file, I can't find a program to create an iso file in linux18:32
willdabeastxangua and fluitfries - I installed it through the software center18:32
crimsonmanewilldabeast: brasero does it18:33
bobweaverwilldabeast,  have ou tried k3B ?18:33
bobweaveryou *18:33
fluitfrieswilldabeast, lol, well there are plenty of ways, yea brasero will do it from your cd or dvd18:33
xanguawilldabeast: then it is, go to the virtualbox web and download the propietary there18:33
crimsonmanein pretty much any burner program you tell it the destination is "image file"18:33
CyberGabberwilldabeast: http://tuxarena.blogspot.nl/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html18:33
* fluitfries nods to crimsonmane 18:33
willdabeastfluitfries haha well thats handy, bobweaver no, crimsonmane ill try that xangua alright thanks :)18:34
CyberGabberwilldabeast: K3b will dot the job ;-)18:34
willdabeastwill it not work by just copying the cd boot files to an ntfs boot usb?18:34
bobweaverwilldabeast,  k3b is powerful18:35
fluitfrieswilldabeast, no, you need boot records, flags, certain filesystem types sometimes...  etc18:35
fluitfrieswillda definitely use unetbootin18:35
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willdabeastfluitfries, i gparted it as ntfs and set a boot flag, but i guess i need bootrecords too?18:35
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fluitfriesi just made one with unetbootin and i needed to use fat32 when i made it in linux, ntfs wouldnt work18:36
fluitfrieswilldabeast, i think unetbootin will take care of that question for you is what i'm saying18:36
fluitfriesi created a mbr part scheme, then fat32 partition, then unetbootin with my ISO, done.18:37
* Gallomimia hopes ineedguru will start the armenia channel for ubuntu and linux afficianados18:37
willdabeastfluitfries gotcha thanks. And thanks everyone :) love using this channel.18:37
fluitfrieswilldabeast, np, good luck, thanks18:37
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qw[Russian]prompt please as to me to disconnect function of blocking of the screen if at me the mouse costs in idle times18:38
enzociao18:39
qw[Russian]i search18:40
qw[Russian])18:40
genii-aroundqw[Russian]: xset dpms force off18:41
Captain_ClawHey. I don't need to install a firewall on Ubuntu 12.04, right?  Because all the incoming connections are blocked by default..18:42
MonkeyDustCaptain_Claw  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:45
MonkeyDustCaptain_Claw  this may be more useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewall18:48
sssilverHello everyone. I'm installing Ubuntu, however my mouse doesn't work in the installer (it's an ancient Compaq PS/2 mouse). I work fine with the keyboard, however on the step where I need to create partitions, some necessary buttons are not focusable by keyboard. What should I do?18:56
azmhi, I reinstalled grub via chroot from live enviroment but it still loads windows loade18:56
azm*loader18:57
azmcan some one help please ?18:57
tozenazm, seem u r installed grub on wrong place18:57
IDWMasterHi. Is there a way on Intel Atom chips to artificially increase the screen resolution (which was possible in Windows via a registry setting change)?18:58
azmtozen, but I have only dev/sda18:58
azmhow do  Ifind where is mbt then18:58
azmsda1 is windows ,sda2 is ubuntu18:58
azmsimple18:58
Max77hy all18:58
tozenazm do u have flash drive with live cd?18:58
IDWMasterHi18:58
azmtozen, life cd18:59
tozenazm WAIT now!18:59
IDWMasterAnyone know if it's possible to use display downscaling for artificially higher resolutions on Ubuntu?19:00
azmtozen, sorry ?19:00
gyre007is there any equivalent of rpm -V in Ubuntu ?19:00
tozenazm, load ur live cd, them tipe in terminal: sudo fdisk -l and check where is ur ubunru installed19:00
IDWMasterrpm -V?19:01
IDWMasterWhat's that supposed to do?19:01
ikoniarpm will do nothing on ubuntu19:01
azmtozen, already did that all19:01
ikoniait's a redhat option19:01
azmhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_219:01
IDWMasterWhat's it supposed to do in Redhat19:01
IDWMasterWhat's it supposed to do in Redhat?19:01
ikoniaIDWMaster: join #fedora and ask19:01
tozenazm so tell me where is it19:01
thorhi, some knows how to run a .bat archive in wine?19:01
azmI dont remember tozen19:01
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azmtozen, its /dev/sda619:02
tozenazm, u need to do it now or i can't help u, all is up to u19:02
tozenazm,ok19:02
tozenazm, them pop in terminal sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt19:03
azmI did that already19:03
IDWMasterOK. rpm -V in Redhat verifies the integrity of the package repository19:03
IDWMasterEquivalent in Ubuntu I suppose would be to do a sudo apt-get update19:03
tozenazm, and after that sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda19:04
IDWMasterIn Ubuntu that usually lets me know if there's something wrong with the packages19:04
IDWMasterlike if there's a bad signature or something19:04
ikoniaIDWMaster: I know what rpm does - it's nothing of value to ubuntu19:05
IDWMastergyre007 asked what the Ubuntu equivalent was19:05
IDWMasterso I was looking it up for him19:05
azmtozen, I will have to connect to irc from live cd19:06
FKppihi, i'm starting to use irc in ubuntu, so i would like to know what is the best irc client for Ubuntu. Any suggestions?19:06
azmthanks for help tho19:06
tozenazm, try also sudo update-grub --output=/mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg if u been installed windows before ubuntu19:06
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IDWMasterWhat are you using now?19:06
xangua!best | azm19:06
ubottuazm: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.19:06
ThinkT510FKppi: no such thing as best19:06
xanguaupss19:06
themindbenderscrypters19:07
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BinaryMasterQuestion: I am trying to manage some of my desktops remotely doing the following gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true but I am getting a nasty error message * (process:10955): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=74a4d32435da9d2957d430d500000008 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n   I have tried as a user account and with sudo b19:19
BinaryMasteroth give the same results any ideas?19:19
BinaryMasterSorry this is 12.04 desktop that I am running this on19:19
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scatterpikonia,  sorry didnt see your reply some how it didnt flash up i am runing ubuntu 12.0419:20
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BinaryMasterQuestion(Ubuntu Desktop 1204): I am trying to manage some of my desktops remotely doing the following gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true but I am getting a nasty error message.  Any ideas?19:22
Siegel-i have a powershot sx100 is canon camera. plugging it through the usb cable works, the photos even show on my computer, as i try to open one of them no program is able to. cant transfer them onto my computer. do i need to download a driver? how can i knonw if ubuntu (latest version) supports this model?19:24
L3mceBinaryMaster: I have no idea what you are doing but you might have to set DISPLAY, just based on the error.19:24
BinaryMasterthank you L3mce19:25
BinaryMasterSiegel-, are you shooting in Raw?19:25
Siegel-BinaryMaster: what is Raw?19:25
BinaryMasterSiegel-, its on the camera if the images are stored in RAW format you need to find support for the file19:26
L3mceSiegel-: he means raw data format rather than, say, a .jpg... what are you trying to open them with?19:26
Praxiwhen I want to check permissions, I did a ls -l, is there a flag that shows me the numerical representation of drwxrwxrwx like 777 or whatever?19:26
Siegel-L3mce: BinaryMaster when they show up on my computer the ending is .jpg19:26
Poapfelhello19:26
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Poapfelanybody who could help me with setting up a static ipv6 adress with a ubuntu server?19:27
L3mceSiegel-: then I will need the actual error with a specific program.19:27
jribPraxi: read stat's man page19:27
Siegel-L3mce: okay there is an error with image viewer. ill tell you in a minute19:27
scatterpHi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install h19:27
scatterpow ever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do i am running ubuntu 12.0419:27
BinaryMasterSiegel-, oddly enough so do mine on my Canon T4i but I shoot in RAW so I end up having to use my mac with lightroom and an extension19:27
wilee-nileePoapfel, You might try #ubuntu-server19:28
nawledgebeatshello19:28
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L3mceSiegel-: see if you can open them with GIMP.19:28
L3mce!info gimp19:28
ubottugimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.12-1ubuntu1.1 (precise), package size 4644 kB, installed size 12819 kB19:28
Siegel-BinaryMaster: this is bizarre. i just tried to open a photo to give you the error number and now they all open and i can switch images no problem. haha. its weird. how come??? how come it works now? and how can i count on it working the ext time19:28
Siegel-L3mce: i have gimp, ill try that next time if it doesnt work19:29
nawledgebeatshey guys so im trying to run an ./install.sh19:29
nawledgebeatsand its not working19:29
nawledgebeatsps. im super noob19:30
jribnawledgebeats: ask the provider of the install.sh19:30
jribnawledgebeats: what are you installing exactly?19:30
oversizeis empathy realy the future of irc in ubuntu ? i just cant get warm with it ...  yet19:30
nawledgebeatsits supposed to be a "gnome" theme19:31
BinaryMasternawledgebeats, sudo chmod +x install.sh19:31
jribnawledgebeats: what are you installing *exactly*?19:31
nawledgebeatsthank you ill try that19:31
xanguaoversize: install other client, plenty of them19:31
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cihhanHi all! I cant find xenstat library (xenstat.h) even though Xen and libxen-dev are both installed -- any idea?19:32
oversizexangua: i loved konversation back when i used kde ... and "the others" (i know) are either dicusting or console based ... hm so the answer would be yes i guess if i ask for (sort of) official unity irc client.19:32
xangua oversize: xangua: i loved konversation back when i used kde - does something stops you from using it¿19:33
BluesKajoversize, well ,if you don't mind a few kde-libs, konversation is still a great client19:33
nawledgebeatsone sec sry guys19:34
oversizesorry did not want to troll some1 here :) just  wanted to "use my new irc client" :)19:34
nawledgebeatsim at work :D19:34
ner0xWhere does cron store it's logs?19:34
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L3mcePraxi: if you just want an octal return try stat -c %n\ %a /path/to/dir/*19:35
L3mceor reverse the %a and %n if you want permission first.19:36
scatterpcan i get some help with my webcam ?19:36
wilee-nileener0x, You are asking this question here and debian stick to the channel of the OS you are running.19:36
KyleYankanHey #ubuntu, I'm having trouble making multimon work on my thinkpad x31 (older laptop). However, it seems that my soundcard isn't working at all, despite the correct module being loaded (snd-intel8x0)19:36
nawledgebeatsgnome shell theme19:36
nawledgebeatsthats what its called19:36
ner0xwilee-nilee: I assumed it was debian but it seems the net admins changed it. Sorry I was misinformed.19:36
nawledgebeatsi read up on it online it said i need to execute the ./install.sh file19:37
wilee-nileener0x, Ah I just realized that my mistake. ;(19:37
jribnawledgebeats: what are you installing *exactly*?19:37
ner0xwilee-nilee: Not a problem. It's hard to tell IRC newb from regular users.19:37
nawledgebeatsinstalling a Gnome Theme19:37
nawledgebeatsmixtureD gnome shell theme19:38
jribnawledgebeats: so where did you get it?19:38
nawledgebeatsjust a webpage19:38
jrib!who | nawledgebeats19:38
nawledgebeatsonline19:38
ubottunawledgebeats: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)19:38
gordonjcpKyleYankan: multimon eh19:38
jribnawledgebeats: be *specific*19:38
gordonjcpKyleYankan: you need aoss19:39
nawledgebeatsthank you.19:39
luistconsidering my app will run on many distros, how can i check if its ubuntu? i need something that returns true or false?19:39
gordonjcpluist: why do you need to know?19:39
luistgordonjcp: to set some paths accordingly19:39
llutzluist: check "lsb_release"19:40
Siegel-BinaryMaster: it doesnt give me an error number, it only says somethig like this: "No images found in 'gphoto2://[usb:001,025]/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_0017.JPG'.", and this is while the picture is displayed as a thumbnail19:40
nawledgebeatsjrib I downloaded it from the internet it had a screenshot that looked really nice19:40
jribnawledgebeats: what webpage?19:41
KyleYankangordonjcp: alsa-oss is already installed19:41
BinaryMasterSiegel-, Does your computer have a card reader?19:41
L3mceSiegel-: displayed as a thumbnail in Nautilus?19:41
gordonjcpKyleYankan: okay19:41
gordonjcpKyleYankan: and are you using it?19:41
nawledgebeatsjrib hmmm one sec19:41
Siegel-BinaryMaster: no.19:41
jribner0x: why do you want to know? :x19:41
Siegel-L3mce: 12.419:41
FabioAbibithere is a ubuntu server channel?19:41
Siegel-L3mce: latest version, if thats the name then yes19:41
jribFabioAbibi: #ubuntu-server19:41
L3mceSiegel-: Nautilus is the file manager for Ubuntu...19:41
nawledgebeatsjrib http://www.mediafire.com/?wvbro63epspp2b419:41
gordonjcpKyleYankan: you need something like $ aoss ./multimon19:41
KyleYankangordonjcp: Yeah, but no luck. I also tried using aplay to play .wav's, and /dev/random with no noise.19:41
jribnawledgebeats: where did you find that link...19:42
ner0xjrib: ?19:42
FabioAbibijrib: thanx19:42
mikkelCan anyone help me? I am having crashes19:42
jribner0x: aren't you asking about where cron logs?19:42
Siegel-L3mce: oh yes its in the cameras folder, adn then dcim....19:42
L3mceSiegel-: while in the directory where you see the thumbnail, press ctrl + L  and paste the path at the top which appears19:42
ner0xjrib: Yes.19:42
BinaryMasterSiegel-, can you import all the files using gPhoto ? check your cables it sounds like a lose connection between the camera and computer19:42
Siegel-L3mce: ok19:42
cihhanI cant find xenstat library (xenstat.h) even though Xen and libxen-dev are both installed -- any idea?19:42
Siegel-L3mce: gphoto2://[usb:001,025]/DCIM/100CANON19:42
jribner0x: so why do you want to know...? :)  (cron logs to /var/log/messages by default, but it also mails you output from your jobs as long as you've installed an mta)19:43
L3mceI am guessing it doesnt like that path with those brackets19:43
Siegel-BinaryMaster: ok, ive tried two different cables.19:43
jribcihhan: that file isn't anywhere in the repositories19:43
Siegel-L3mce: i see. what do i do about that19:43
ner0xjrib: A job is failing to run. I'm under the assumping it's a PATH issue.19:43
BinaryMasterhow old is the camera?19:43
nawledgebeatsjrib http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MixtureD+Gnome-Shell+Theme?content=15394119:43
nawledgebeatsjrib there it is19:43
mikkelI am having random crashes, can anyone help me?19:43
mihneadbhello, I installed ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on an UEFI system and I cannot find the efi_gop module. Any help, please?19:43
L3mcecp them in nautilus to a  directory locally and edit them there19:43
jribnawledgebeats: thanks.  Now... are sure you are running gnome shell?19:43
L3mceSiegel-: ^19:43
jribner0x: redirect stdout and stderr somewhere and read it.  Or just fix the path issues and see if it works19:44
Siegel-L3mce: dunno how to do that19:44
nawledgebeatsright now from the login screen i chose ubuntu19:44
luistllutz: what is that supposed to do?19:44
BinaryMasterSiegel-, how old is the camera19:44
ner0xjrib: Doing that now. Thanks.19:44
nawledgebeatsbut i have the option for Gnome19:44
Siegel-BinaryMaster: im not sure. its a friends. im guessing around 2 years19:44
llutzluist: read "man lsb_release" - print distribution-specific information19:44
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gordonjcpKyleYankan: any luck yet?19:45
luistllutz: well it gave me No LSB modules are available. 19:45
luistllutz: so its not an option19:45
ActionParsnipluist: thats normal19:45
genupulassomebody http://askubuntu.com/q/195624/3383319:45
KyleYankangordonjcp: No. None whatsoever. :-/19:45
L3mceSiegel-: I use KDE... but at the top of Dolphin, we have a "split" button which will allow us to drag and drop from one dir to another in the same window... just open another file manager if you dont, and drag and drop one and see if you can open it locallyw ithout a problem.19:45
jribnawledgebeats: if you pastebin the contents of the install.sh, I'll try to make sure it's sane.  I don't know offhand how you install gnome shell themes19:45
ActionParsnipluist: or you can use:  cat /etc/lsb-release19:45
luistcant i just parse uname output and check for ubuntu?19:45
BinaryMasterSiegel-, you may just have to take it file by file.  If this is something you will be doing often you may want to run to walmart or like store and buy a memory card reader for like $1519:45
llutzluist:  "lsb_release -i"19:45
croephaI am trying to control a number of different ubuntu machines, automatically, I figure I can use https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html to keep them updated, but what if I wanted to install a new package on all of them?19:45
gordonjcpKyleYankan: right, what are you trying to get multimon to do?19:45
Siegel-L3mce: do i have another file manager?19:46
nawledgebeatsjrib: okay thats what ill do one sec19:46
KyleYankangordonjcp: It is an older laptop, and I've never used the osund card, just modprobed the module, and turned up the audio in alsamixer. I want multimon to deocde DTMF tones.19:46
cihhanjrib: so, what shoud i do?19:46
nawledgebeatsjrib: can i email it19:46
cihhani need to make some changes in the xentop19:46
L3mceSiegel-: you can open multiple instances I mean19:46
gordonjcpKyleYankan: like I said, $ aoss ./multimon19:46
BinaryMasterSiegel-, ctrl+N for a new window19:46
gordonjcpKyleYankan: assuming you're in the directory where the multimon binary is19:46
Siegel-L3mce: it would be the same manager. or do you mean a separate window ? like go into a different folder in a separate window? and then what? drag and drop a file into there?19:46
cihhanjrib: i need to make some changes in xentop, and it requires xenstat library. So, do you have any suggestions?19:47
Siegel-BinaryMaster: yes this opens up the home folder19:47
L3mceso... Siegel-... open your home directories "Pictures" directory for instance, and in another window open your camera and drag and drop a file, then double click the file locally.19:47
Siegel-L3mce: ok let me try19:47
BinaryMasterSiegel-, now make a temp folder and drag and drop the files19:47
Siegel-BinaryMaster: ok19:47
KyleYankangordonjcp: no luck. It launches multimon, and failes with an open:permission denied. So I do a sudo aoss multimon, and it executes, and waits for some tones to decode- with no return if I send a DTMF tones19:48
rollituphi all19:48
nawledgebeatsjrib: http://pastebin.com/3zWALqNm19:48
rollituphas anyone gotten M-audio 1010LT soundcard to work with Ubuntu 12.0419:48
gordonjcprollitup: I've got it to work with older Ubuntus19:49
gordonjcpKyleYankan: check the permissions for your various sound devices19:49
Siegel-BinaryMaster: L3mce ok this works. now this is my problem: it takes a couple of minutes for all the files to load and only then will it even let me drag and drop. why may this be?19:49
gordonjcpKyleYankan: that *should* work, but add the SCOPE decoder and check you're actually getting audio in19:49
KyleYankangordonjcp: terminal only19:49
nawledgebeatsjrib: this just sucks bc i thought i was good with computers. . .19:50
gordonjcpKyleYankan: can you try a different decoder?19:50
BinaryMasterSiegel-, Camera maybe older then you thought or the computer is and is using usb 1.019:50
KyleYankangordonjcp: I haven't been able to find any19:50
nawledgebeatsjrib: lol19:50
ActionParsniprollitup: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh19:50
L3mceSiegel-: because you are viewing it in thumbnail mode... It has to read all of your very large picture files and then convert then to thumbs, nd then display them19:50
rollitupgordonjcp: how do i check permissions for audio devices ?19:50
Siegel-BinaryMaster: what is usb 1.0? my computer is from 200519:50
nawledgebeatsJrib: any luck?19:51
jribcihhan: I don't19:51
KyleYankangordonjcp: Is there a cheap and drity way I can make sure the sound card is even working?19:51
jribcihhan: is xentop provided by ubuntu repositories?19:51
BinaryMasterSiegel-, You can look into turning of thumbnail mode though not sure how myself19:51
gordonjcpKyleYankan: arecord and see if there's anything in the file?19:51
rollitupActionParsnip: its here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9ca724d57508bba56a48531b33d61377429a875b19:51
jribnawledgebeats: I don't recommend you run this script as it copies things system-wide.  I'd suggest you only install it to your HOME19:51
cihhanjrib: yeah, im using it19:52
gordonjcprollitup: what is the problem you're having?19:52
rollitupi have no sound19:52
nawledgebeatshow exactly do i do that?19:52
rollitupi also disabled the onboard sound driver from the bios as suggested in some similar issue threads19:52
nawledgebeatsjrib: right-click, run?19:52
KyleYankangordonjcp: unable to create IPC semaphore19:52
nawledgebeatsjrib: on terminal command19:53
rollitupi turned up the volume for all output channels in alsa mixer19:53
nawledgebeatsjrib: or*19:53
mac_12how can I share internet connection between host and guest in virtualbox? (using NAT interface)19:53
rollitupalso have installed Mudita2419:53
willdabeastHaving an issue with UNetbootin, the usb drive is not being found on the dropdown list. The usb is mounted and has an ntfs filesystem.19:53
jribcihhan: so just do « apt-get source PACKAGE_FOR_XENTOP » and « sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE_FOR_XENTOP »19:53
Siegel-BinaryMaster: thats i guess in "view", but is it possible that all this trouble is only because of my kind of "old" hardware and that it just takes a bit time because the connection isnt ideal? i mean, after a couple of minutes all the files display and when i drag 'n drop, it works fine19:53
wilee-nileewilldabeast, is it mounted19:53
gordonjcpKyleYankan: ?19:53
willdabeastwilee-nilee yes19:53
KyleYankangordonjcp: I did sudo arecord, and the test.wav file does show data19:53
willdabeastwilee-nilee do i need to set a boot flag?19:54
wilee-nileewilldabeast, whats the partition format?19:54
gordonjcpso it's getting something in then19:54
Iva22HI ALL! its very important to me. Who knew Mark Shuttleworth gay or not?19:54
willdabeastwilee-nilee ntfs with nothing on it19:54
gordonjcpKyleYankan: try enabling ZVEI and whistling at it?19:54
g0hwwhow can if force one of my soundcards to use 48kHz sample rate.  that rate is supported but is not the default rate.  i've tried editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf but that had no effect.  can i do it with an ioctl?  in a script?19:54
gordonjcpKyleYankan: I'm kind of running out of ideas here...19:54
Iva22please?19:54
mac_12if I open a browser in the guest I cannot surfing the web19:54
wilee-nileewilldabeast, hmm fat 32 is what you want I believe19:54
cihhanjrib: ok let me check that :) thanks a lot :)19:55
willdabeastwilee-nilee is it because win xp is older?19:55
jribnawledgebeats: you should be able to just copy the theme to ~/.themes and the icons to ~/.icons19:55
nawledgebeatsjrib: sry for all the questions im just super noob19:55
g0hwwits the playback (audio output) rate i need to set19:55
KyleYankangordonjcp: Heh, I do always have the weird problems19:55
nawledgebeatsohhh19:55
gordonjcpg0hww: asound.conf maybe?19:55
ActionParsnipmac_12: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?19:55
Iva22Who knew Mark personally?19:55
nawledgebeatsjrib: can you give me a terminal command for that?19:55
wilee-nileewilldabeast, ISO are generally run a fat32 and with unetbootin19:55
jribnawledgebeats: some google hits suggest that gnome-tweak-tool may also be able to help you with this.  I don't know about it19:55
mac_12what is that?19:55
jribnawledgebeats: if you don't want to use the terminal, you can just copy using the gui19:56
nawledgebeatsi tried gnome tweak tool19:56
willdabeastwilee-nilee gotcha thanks :) you're always helpful.19:56
KyleYankangordonjcp: No such luck with ZVEI. :-/19:56
mac_12may I type this in the guest?19:56
Iva22Only kids in channel?19:56
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ActionParsniprollitup: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels cranked and unmuted?19:56
jribnawledgebeats: what do you see inside the archive you downloaded?19:56
Iva22#ubuntu-ru19:56
rollitupyes19:56
g0hwwgordonjcp, i've tried it in .asoundrc which didn't help, but as i understand it that performs rate conversion and doesn't actually set the device rate19:56
ActionParsnipmac_12: ping, a defacto connectivity tester on all OSes.19:56
nawledgebeatsjrib: icons etc19:56
BluesKajrollitup,  open a terminal , sudo modprobe snd_ice1712 , then either reboot or do sudo alsa force-reload , if theres no output from the reload , then reboot19:56
jribnawledgebeats: remember, be *specific*19:56
jribnawledgebeats: I am not behind your shoulder :)19:57
nawledgebeatsjrib: haha19:57
willdabeastwilee-nilee is your rank in the forum linked to your irc rank?19:57
rollitupI'll try that BluesKaj19:57
wilee-nileeIva22, those questions some offensive by the way are for #ubuntu-offtopic19:57
mac_12ok I'm gonna try19:57
gordonjcprollitup: have you installed envy24control?19:57
wilee-nileewilldabeast, Not that I know of, I'm not even active on the forum, but support it.19:57
nawledgebeatsjrib: lets see "gnome-shell" "icons" "themes" install and uninstall .sh files19:58
rollitupno i have installed mudita24 which is similar to that19:58
KenSharphi, I'm just about to upgrade a Hardy server to Precise and I get a lot of "No candidate ver:" messages, libffi4 being an example. would I be correct in assuming that this is simply because those packages don't exist in Precise?19:58
gordonjcpKyleYankan: tbh the only way to sanity is to rewrite multimon so it doesn't require OSS19:58
gordonjcpKyleYankan: OSS went obsolete 15 years ago19:58
ActionParsnipmac_12: in a terminal run:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.819:58
rollitupbrb will try BluesKaj suggestions now19:58
willdabeastwilee-nilee I saw your name on a few forum posts thats why I asked, you seemed active.19:58
guntbert!ot | willdabeast19:58
ubottuwilldabeast: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:58
gordonjcpKyleYankan: now if you're not exactly in a hurry for it, check my github repo in a week or two ;-)19:58
KyleYankanThanks gordonjcp. I'll keep messing with it.19:58
wilee-nileewilldabeast, I have over 8000 posts I believe I was for some time.19:58
KyleYankangordonjcp: same username?19:58
gordonjcpKyleYankan: this *should* work19:58
ActionParsnipKenSharp: you will need to upgrade to Lucid first, then to precise19:58
gordonjcpKyleYankan: yup19:59
gordonjcpKyleYankan: get it working on your local machine first19:59
KyleYankanwill do gordonjcp19:59
jribKenSharp: you can't upgrade directly from hardy to precise, you need to go through lucid19:59
ActionParsnipKenSharp: remember to run a full backup first19:59
nawledgebeatsjrib: you said earlier to copy and paste the icons and themes folder, but to where would i copy them to?19:59
jribnawledgebeats: ~/.themes and ~/.icons/ though I'm confused by the fact that you have gnome-shell and themes.  So let me google some19:59
mac_12I receive a msg saying network not found19:59
rhizmoeMasterOfDisaster: i was talking about keyboard copy/paste, middle button or a clipboard manager are both annoying19:59
ActionParsnipmac_12: ok, does the interface have an IP address?20:00
nawledgebeatsJrib: mos def thank you.20:00
KenSharpsorry, I meant Lucid! It was originally a Hardy installation...20:00
KenSharpActionParsnip, I have backed up :)20:00
gordonjcpKyleYankan: I'm using a modified version of it to decode EEA 5-tone signalling20:00
ActionParsnipKenSharp: good lad20:00
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gordonjcpKyleYankan: it *does* work20:00
KenSharpNo candidate ver:  mysql-server-5.020:01
KenSharpNo candidate ver:  mysql-server-5.120:01
mac_12I'm using virtualbox. I set up a network adapter named NAT within the settings but it does not show nothing about IP20:01
KenSharpI don't even have them installed....20:01
Iva22who knew?20:02
ActionParsnipmac_12: I recommend a bridged network, you will get an IP from your home router on the system20:03
mac_12ok I'm gonna try20:03
jribnawledgebeats: alright, first, create  ~/.icons and ~/.themes directories if they don't already exist.  Let me know when you've done that20:03
g0hwwoh, forgot to mention, the program that is having playback sample rate issues is using PortAudio20:03
Iva22ubuntu-ops20:03
Iva22#ubuntu-ops20:04
gordonjcpg0hww: what's the program?20:04
DJonesIva22: Stop that, this is a support channel20:04
mac_12Actionparsnip: thank you20:04
g0hwwwspr - a ham radio program20:04
g0hwwbuilt from source, not from repo20:04
gordonjcprollitup: right okay, I haven't tried mudita and I haven't got a desktop to put my 1010LT into just now20:04
BluesKajrollitup, also you can add the line,' options snd_ice1712 index=0 ', to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, with root permissions , then save the file .20:04
rollitupback BluesKaj I tried what you suggested also rebooted but still no sound20:04
Iva22what i just enter on second cjanel what u want?!?!?20:04
gordonjcpg0hww: I did wonder if that was a callsign20:04
* gordonjcp <- MM0YEQ20:04
g0hwwso, my glitchy audio is getting transmitted all over the world. not a good advert :(20:05
rollitupok BluesKaj20:05
nawledgebeatsJrib: sry but i dont know how to create those directories20:05
gordonjcpg0hww: tbh I think your best bet is to stop pulse and let wspr get at the sound card directly20:05
Iva22Who can help?20:05
jribnawledgebeats: go to nautilus (the file browser, then view -> show hidden files).  Make sure you are in your HOME directory (~ means your $HOME, which is usually /home/username).  Then you can create a new directory and name it ".icons".   Do the same for ".themes"20:06
L3mcerollitup: can I see the output of sudo aplay -l20:06
elijah!help20:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:06
elijahhelp!20:06
ActionParsnipIva22: what is the issue?20:06
g0hwwgordonjcp, can i stop pulse from using that card - i'd like to keep the rest of the sound system working on the laptop20:06
rollitupI added the line do i need to reboot again BluesKaj ?20:06
gordonjcpg0hww: I think so, but I'm not an expert; I tend to stop pulse by fairly brutal and unapproved means20:06
BluesKajrollitup, I also have a m-audio card , which works well , mine uses the snd_ice1724 driver20:06
BluesKajrollitup, no , try the also force-reload again20:07
gordonjcpg0hww: did you use the .deb or build from source?20:07
g0hwwlol. yep. i'd shoot it in the face if i had a gun20:07
BluesKajalsa force-reload20:07
g0hwwsource20:07
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themindbendersi want to watch fashion tv in my ubuntu?20:07
gordonjcpg0hww: I tried wspr a while back but it was such a bloody awful mess I gave up20:08
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, do you have a tuner on your machine20:08
gordonjcpg0hww: like pretty much all amateur radio software, it's an unmaintainable buggy pile of misfeatures with a hideous GUI loosely nailed onto the twitching corpse20:08
nawledgebeatsJrib:20:09
nawledgebeatsjrib:oops20:09
rollitupstill no sound20:09
hannofcartHi, just installed 12.04 and seem to be having the strangest problems with my wireless. I have only one external usb wireless adapter, and yet lsusb shows two: http://codepad.org/U6GLCEof Also, I keep losing internet access. To be sure the connection to the wireless router seems intact but I can't access any websites.20:09
hannofcartCould someone help me w.r.t what may be going wrong?20:09
BluesKajg0hww,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse20:09
themindbenderswethepeople:nop20:09
BluesKajrollitup, how are you testing the sound ?20:09
elijahHey guys, how can I simulate MS Word copying on Ubuntu? Trying to test an input striper in Drupal20:10
elijah*stripper20:10
rollitupi had got it to work prior to formatting this machine  with the help of ActionParsnip in April but i did not document the steps that got it working, careless me20:10
g0hwwyeah, found that before.  build was painless this time, and it works pretty well, even on 64 bit, but both that and fldigi give me crackling audio with this signalink-usb device at 44.1kHz, which is its default.  all is good at 48kHz.  i've proven that the glitching is down to sample rate in gnuradio, but can't seem to get wspr running with 48k even though that is what it assumes20:10
hannofcartHi, just installed 12.04 and seem to be having the strangest problems with my wireless. I have only one external usb wireless adapter, and yet lsusb shows two: http://codepad.org/U6GLCEof Also, I keep losing internet access. To be sure the connection to the wireless router seems intact but I can't access any websites.20:10
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, well git one20:10
rollitupi am testing sound using the Test sound in All sound settings window20:10
willdabeastDoes anyone have a job that requires a background with linux? Don't think this is offtopic...20:11
BluesKajrollitup, was there any output from force-reload command ?20:11
themindbenderswethepeople:suggest me one20:11
nawledgebeatsjrib: so where exactly again sry im not getting it20:11
rollitupno not at all20:11
g0hwwgordonjcp, yep, just read your 'review' of wspr above. can't argue with that20:11
jribnawledgebeats: do you have nautilus open?20:11
gordonjcpg0hww: want another example? Xastir20:11
nawledgebeatsjrib: im in the home folder20:11
L3mcethemindbenders: It might be on hulu... in which case you can use huludesktop20:11
gordonjcpg0hww: want another example? Quisk20:11
BluesKajrollitup, ok do you have pavucontrol installed ?20:11
jribnawledgebeats: did you show hidden files? (so you see files that start with '.'?)20:12
nawledgebeatsjrib: view> show hidden folders20:12
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, you on a laptop or desktop?20:12
nawledgebeatsjrib: yes.20:12
jribnawledgebeats: do you have a .icons directory?20:12
gordonjcpg0hww: soundmodem, linrad, fldigi...20:12
themindbenderswethepeople:laptop  lenovo y50020:12
nawledgebeatsJrib: no20:12
g0hwwgordonjcp, god yes.  i had to hack that myself for a faster track update speed so i could plot ADS-B data. its a mess20:12
rollitupno i have Mudita24 installed which is near to the M-Audio mixer interface that we get on windows20:12
hannofcartthere, i just got disconnected like i mentioned in my question :(20:12
gordonjcpg0hww: fldigi isn't too bad but it's horribly crippled by using fltk20:12
jribnawledgebeats: right click on some white space there, and create a new folder.  Name it ".icons"20:12
gordonjcpg0hww: I gave up on it and started writing my own APRS tracker20:12
g0hwwgordonjcp, but there is also tons of shite code that isn't ham radio related too20:12
nawledgebeatsjrib: does it need to be .icon or ~.icon etc?20:13
jribnawledgebeats: it's ".icons"20:13
nawledgebeatsjrib: sweet one sec20:13
gordonjcpg0hww: yeah, there's commercial radio software like GPS tracking software for Mototrbo, pretty much any commercial radio programming tools, pretty much any dispatcher software...20:13
L3mcethemindbenders: http://www.prlog.org/11444190-fashiontv-launches-its-247-stream-on-youtube.html         they stream 24/7 on youtube... just... watch that...20:14
g0hwwat least gnuradio isn't crap20:14
nawledgebeatsjrib: so i made two ".icons" and ".theme"20:14
themindbendersL3mce:thanx buddy20:14
Iva22Any can help please?20:14
gordonjcpg0hww: it's like there's some unwritten rule that any software to do with radio has to be written in Microsoft Visual Cobol for OS/2 95 by some guy who died ten years ago, with the GUI designed by a colour-blind orang-utan with an unrivalled collection of cortical lesions20:15
Iva22Mark is Gay?20:15
gordonjcphe could be, he seemed reasonably happy last time I saw him20:15
gordonjcpI don't know what his stance on Enid Blyton is20:15
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nawledgebeatsjrib: should i copy and paste the contents from the archive i downloaded?20:16
nawledgebeatsjrib: accordingly20:16
witakrI'm backeria\20:16
g0hwwgordonjcp, yeah. at least the author of UI-View had the decency to take his shit source code to the grave with him20:16
jribnawledgebeats: ".themes", not ".theme"20:16
gordonjcpg0hww: one thing I'd love to get time to work on is a UI chat plugin for libpurple20:16
gordonjcpg0hww: "How Hard Can It Be?"20:16
nawledgebeatsjrib: right on i was worried about that20:16
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, newegg.com20:16
gordonjcpg0hww: get your mheard list and all right there in your chat proggie, integrated into the desktop20:17
jribnawledgebeats: so now go to the archive you downloaded and copy the "MixtureD" directory inside the "icons" directory in your archive to ~/.icons.  So in the end you should have ~/.icons/MixtureD20:17
themindbenderswethepeople:u are best20:17
g0hwwgordonjcp, i wrote an AX.25 adapter for the Delay Tolerant Networking Research Group's DTN2 reference implementation.  That isn't shit code. But AFAIK, only me and my mate use it.20:18
gordonjcpg0hww: if you're doing APRS or APRS-like tracking, take a look at this: https://github.com/gordonjcp/aprsmap20:18
WeThePeopleidk20:18
h00kg0hww: also, please keep the language appropriate/family friendly in here20:18
gordonjcpg0hww: that's not terrible code20:18
gordonjcph00k: ugh20:18
g0hwwhook, roger that20:18
nawledgebeatsjrib: okay will do one sec20:18
gordonjcph00k: what about those who find the phrase "family friendly" offensive?20:18
CommKavHow do I find out the drive letter of my cd rom.  I am trying to install the second disk of a windows game and it asks for a cd drive letter.  The Home Folder is no help.20:18
gordonjcpyou know what, I've had enough of "family friendly"20:18
gordonjcpthe whole "family friendly" thing makes this by far the most hostile and unpleasant channel I've ever been in20:19
nawledgebeatsJrib: and same with the themes correct?20:19
jribnawledgebeats: right20:19
gordonjcpthis channel feels unsafe and unfriendly because of it20:19
themindbenderswethepeople:what i have to search here?20:19
nawledgebeatsJrib: done and done.20:20
g0hwwgordonjcp, will have a dabble with aprsmap later20:20
BluesKajrollitup, try a reboot , but I suspect your card is bypassing alsa in favour of the Mudita2420:20
jribnawledgebeats: that should be it20:20
elijahWell, here is my question if anyone wants to take a stab at it - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12697597/how-do-i-fill-ubuntu-clipboard-with-ms-word-output20:20
gordonjcpg0hww: let me know how you get on; it is known to be a bit crappy but basically functional20:20
TJ-12.04 Unity (3D) launcher doesn't reveal itself when set to auto-hide. Problem started 10 minutes ago after a log-out/log-in. gettings look normal. Anything I can do to investigate the cause, and a solution?20:21
BluesKajrollitup,l make sure the Mudita24 is installed if you 've upgraded lately20:21
nawledgebeatsjrib: just be clear the "directory" i created the .icons and .themes also shows folders; "videos" "documents" is this correct20:21
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Order=BESTMATCH&DEPA=0&Submit=ENE&Description=tv%20tuner%20laptop20:21
ActionParsnipTJ-: press SuperL and it wuill show, along with dash20:21
nawledgebeatsjrib:?20:21
rollitupbok20:21
jribnawledgebeats: I don't know what you mean20:21
rollitupsorry ok20:21
hugenumberI am running ubuntu server 12.04 in a virtualbox. How do I increase the resolution?20:21
TJ-ActionParsnip: I know that! I'm trying to discover *why* its got lost, and how to fix it20:21
witakrelijah, Are you talking about pasting code or the formatted contents of the word file?20:22
nawledgebeatshow can i screen shot?20:22
ActionParsnipTJ-: ive had the same issue, i just have it not hide and set the icon size smaller20:22
guntberthugenumber: install the guest additions - support in #vbox20:22
nawledgebeatsjrib: can i screen shot this?20:22
shaDykhanhey guys my new job gave me a macbookpro but i have the oppurtunity to use windows or ubuntu. But i have no idea how to set up ubuntu with bootcamp so is there any guide or any compatabiity issues that i should know abuot?20:22
hugenumberthanks20:22
jribnawledgebeats: just do: ls ~/.icons/ ~/.themes    .  What's the output?20:22
elijahwitakr: If a user highlights text in Word and copies it, I want that to be in my Ubuntu clipboard for pasting.20:22
nawledgebeatsjrib: i really have no idea what im doing20:23
kraetzjaapparently the virtual filesystem driver i wrote which uses loop devices used them all and isn't freeing them, and im out now. how do i reset them?20:23
KyleYankanHeh, gordonjcp I got it working on another box - but only with microphone. It sees input from line-in, but it's not as louad maybe? I have the mic turned al lthe way up, as well as the input device (Scanner)20:23
jribnawledgebeats: that's ok, you just have to type what I said in a terminal and give me the output20:23
witakrelijah, And if you select and hit ctlr-c in ubuntu it doesn't copy?20:23
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nawledgebeatsjrib: youre definitely helping though20:23
elijahwitakr: I don't have Word20:23
elijahwitakr: I just need some demo content I can fill my cb with.20:24
Dominciiguys20:24
Dominciiquick question20:24
ActionParsnipTJ-: is there a bug reported?20:24
Dominciisomeone is using an ssh to fix some stuff on my computer20:24
Dominciithey have their own user20:24
Dominciiif i lock the computer on my end20:24
themindbenderswethepeople:i have any other options i have a strong internet connection20:24
Dominciiwill they still be able to do their thang?20:25
nawledgebeatsjrib: it didnt tell me anything20:25
TJ-ActionParsnip: I'd rather like to fix the bug :)  ... nothing obvious in .xsession-errors, /var/log/lightdm/*, /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... gsettings are all defaults for com.canonical.unity-2d.launcher.* and desktop.unity.launcher.*20:25
ziggyzeroDomincii: yes20:25
L3mceDomincii: if you mean lock your desktop, yes20:25
jribDomincii: one question = one line.  Please don't use enter as punctuation.  Yes, they can "do their thing"20:25
Dominciithanks ziggyzero, you're the man20:25
TJ-ActionParsnip: lots of them, and forum reports, but no explanation as to *why*.20:25
NubicentauroCiauz a tutti bella Gente dal Mitico ^Spartakus^ - Script  #ubuntu20:25
ActionParsnipTJ-: then you'll be playing with the settings in myunity or ubuntu-tweak etc20:25
jribnawledgebeats: can you pastebin what you see in your terminal? (what you typed and what came after)20:25
L3mce!it | Nubicentauro20:26
ubottuNubicentauro: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:26
nawledgebeatsyes.20:26
TJ-ActionParsnip: my only clue is, when I came back to the PC the 2nd HDMI display wasn't working so I logged out (the HDMI was gone since I'd removed the nvidia module and replaced it with a newer version)20:26
nawledgebeatsjrib: yes.20:26
Nubicentauroc cazz sit viu?20:26
CommKavHow do I find out the drive letter of my cdrom.  I am trying to install the second disk of a windows game and it asks for a cd drive letter.  The Home Folder is no help.20:26
jrib!it | Nubicentauro20:26
jribCommKav: try #winehq20:26
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nawledgebeatsjrib:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K3peiIgpMaU/UGtN9TwUUMI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/DfUWsPm9QUg/s576/Screenshot%2520from%25202012-10-02%252013%253A25%253A21.png20:26
jribnawledgebeats: yes, that's the right place for .icons.  What inside of .icons now?20:27
TJ-ActionParsnip: It seems as if the co-ordinates of the launcher have gone into negative numbers, because when programs start, they display slide-out icons that only seem to extend 1/2 way onto the desktop before retiring off-screen20:27
nawledgebeatshttp://pastebin.com/zP6UfLWi20:27
witakrelijah, right but ctrl-c and ctrl-v work outside of word. I guess I'm not clear on what you're doing.20:27
CommKavthanx20:27
jribnawledgebeats: open a new terminal and try the command again20:27
CommKavthanx20:27
ActionParsnipTJ-: could try increasing sensitivity20:28
yar_11120:28
Coded1hello all, I'm running 12.04 and I'm not sure when exactly this started but now when ever I try to install a package via APT or Software Centre I get messages similar to this "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"20:28
Coded1I get that just trying to install pastebinit20:28
TJ-ActionParsnip: yeah, tried all the obvious things. I'm now looking for clues as to how it happened20:29
WeThePeoplethemindbenders, http://www.ustream.tv/20:29
nawledgebeatsjrib:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MfdMXH3-jrc/UGtOqG5iUSI/AAAAAAAAAjc/Px6MJBFfJ5g/s576/Screenshot%2520from%25202012-10-02%252013%253A29%253A03.png20:29
jribnawledgebeats: you forgot a space20:30
nawledgebeatsafter?20:30
genii-aroundCoded1: Do you have some non-official site as your main repositories in sources.list perhaps?20:30
nawledgebeatsjrib: where does the space go?20:30
jribnawledgebeats: also, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com or similar if it's just text.  The space is between "~/.icons" and "~/.themes"20:30
elijahwitakr: If I copy from MS Word in Windows it fills my clipboard, then when I go to paste into a web based wysiwyg it pastes all the formatting in with it. Like this - http://www.sil.org/silewp/2006/003/sample.htm.htm, but not totally like it because it actually pastes the bolded text and the formatted text without the tags. I want to paste as if I just copied richly formatted text right out of MS word.20:30
L3mceelijah: why are you asking about microsoft products here?20:31
Coded1genii-around: I just did a bit of googleing and found I apparently don't have debian-keyring even installed, don't know how I fat fingered that but I'm fixing as we speak20:31
nawledgebeatsjrib: something happened :D20:31
nawledgebeatsjrib:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8e3KqDn-cik/UGtPI_RaOOI/AAAAAAAAAjo/T8hUShAdwpI/h120/Screenshot+from+2012-10-02+13%3A31%3A20.png20:31
jribnawledgebeats: that's impossible to read :x20:32
nawledgebeatshahaha20:32
nawledgebeatsjrib:http://pastebin.com/cvkFg8sq20:32
L3mceCommKav: typically it is /dev/sr020:32
jribnawledgebeats: that looks right20:33
nawledgebeatsjrib: lol so now what???20:33
shaDykhanif i do Ubuntu on bootcamp how hard is it to fix the compatability issues?20:33
jribnawledgebeats: go to gnome shell and change the theme settings20:33
CommKavthanx20:33
jribshaDykhan: what compatibility issues?20:33
nawledgebeatsjrib: lemme give that a try20:34
osztHi, does anybody know if there are older versions of adobe flash player for linux available? I'm looking to install version 9 or 1020:34
OSreXhi, is 12.10 going to include mono out of the box?20:34
jrib!12.10 | OSreX20:34
ubottuOSreX: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+120:34
L3mceCommKav: frankly the easiest way would be to: cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)'20:34
ActionParsnipcs278: none of the version 9s are supported now and Lucid is EOL in April next year20:34
OSreXthanks jrib :)20:34
rollitupBluesKaj: still no sucess20:34
ActionParsnipcs278: I recommend a clean install or Precise20:34
shaDykhanjrib im assming there will be compatibility issues20:34
jribshaDykhan: :x20:34
L3mceCommKav: or perhaps grep -E if you have no egrep20:34
jribshaDykhan: you're just talking about installing on an intel-mac, yes?20:35
shaDykhanyes on another partition20:35
jrib!mac | shaDykhan20:35
ubottushaDykhan: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages20:35
nawledgebeatsjrib: sry but how do i "go to gnome shell"20:35
shaDykhanthax20:35
shaDykhanthanks*20:35
nawledgebeatsjrib: is that what im choosing when i log in?20:35
jribnawledgebeats: I don't know :)  I think that "gnome" session at your login screen puts you into it20:35
BluesKajrollitup, I'm not familiar with Mudita24 , does it replace alsa as the default sound server20:35
nawledgebeatsjrib: right on thank you so much for the help20:36
nawledgebeatsjrib: :D ill try that then come back with what happened20:36
nawledgebeatsjrib: thanks again.20:36
camaroExample usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *chat"20:37
rollitupi am not sure20:37
camaroExample usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *chat*20:37
rollitupbut from the last time i had got it to working the levels on mudita were working so i don't know what that means20:37
camaroExample usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list ubuntu20:37
erkan^is openJDK or Java good?20:37
TheRealZeusHey guys I'm new at ubuntu and I was wondering why my downloaded items keeps ending as a .tar file. How would i extract it and end up with a application20:38
camaroExample usage: /msg alis list ubuntu20:38
BluesKajcamaro,  stop that20:38
camarosorry20:38
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elijahL3mce: It is more to do with how do I get some output from one program into Ubuntu's clipboard, it happens to be MS is involved.20:38
camaroI didn't realize what I was doing until now... :(20:38
ActionParsniperkan^: do you want Oracle java?20:38
TheRealZeusHey guys I'm new at ubuntu and I was wondering why my downloaded items keeps ending as a .tar file. How would i extract it and end up with a application20:39
ActionParsnipTheRealZeus: what are yuo downloading?20:39
erkan^i don't care, ActionParsnip20:39
dr_willisTheRealZeus:  .tar is a type of archive file  just like .zip20:39
ActionParsniperkan^: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html20:39
dr_willisTheRealZeus:  extract it and do whatever you need to do with its contents20:39
BluesKajrollitup, do you have alsa-base alsa-utils installed20:39
ActionParsnipTheRealZeus: most things you will need to install are in software centre20:39
TheRealZeusno i do not have it installed20:40
rollituphow do i check that ?20:40
TheRealZeusnevermind20:40
erkan^ah thx20:40
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L3mceelijah: you are asking about formatting from an MS product. MSWord does not run on ubuntu. If you are running a vm, depending on the vm, you will need extra bits... for instance in virtualbox you will need guest additions to carry over clipboarding etc... however the format output... that is outside of the scope of support here.20:40
dr_williserkan^:  Thers the open sourced java *iced tea* then the Oracle java.20:40
erkan^is PPA good, ActionParsnip ?20:40
erkan^or dangerous?20:40
erkan^that is right, dr20:40
ActionParsniperkan^: its great20:40
BluesKajrollitup, type alsamixer in the terminal20:40
elijahL3mce: Good to know, thanks20:40
toshgshis there any way to be able to view 2 conkys in a dual monitor setup?20:41
nawledgebeatsjrib: ya so nothing happened but at least that was kinda a crash course on terminal use thanks for all the help/20:41
TheRealZeuswhat did u mean by do watever you need to do with its contents20:41
jribnawledgebeats: you still need to select your themes20:41
dr_willisTheRealZeus:  we have no idea whats in the arvhivces..  so you read the docs on whatever it is.. and do whats needed.20:41
jribnawledgebeats: that just makes them available20:41
ActionParsnipTheRealZeus: well, the archive could contain anything, it could be source or it could be binaries20:41
chicognuI can install ubuntu to my pendrive just like I will do to my hdd ?20:41
nawledgebeatsjrib; i dont know how to do that20:41
dr_willischicognu:  yes. I do that all the time.20:42
rollitupyes i have alsamixer20:42
nawledgebeatsjrib: i tried using the gnome tweak tool "advanced settings"20:42
jribnawledgebeats: apparently you can use gnome-tweak-tool.  You might also check for some sort of "appearance properties" program or similar20:42
nawledgebeatsjrib: ya all the options there, were there before we did what we did.20:43
ActionParsnipTheRealZeus: what is the file you have?20:43
jribnawledgebeats: even for the icons?20:43
nawledgebeatsmhm20:43
nawledgebeatsjrib: yes.20:44
jribnawledgebeats: weird.  Try some other themes I suppose20:44
ner0xIs there a way to load my .bashrc really quick before a cron job?20:45
nawledgebeatsjrib: OHH it is there!!!20:45
dr_willisner0x:  'source .bashrc' as part of a script20:45
nawledgebeatsjrib: it just hasnt changed the icons on the home bar.20:45
MacUser_Hello everyone, I own a Macbook Pro 8,1 and am thinkning of installing Ubuntu 12.04 as my only operating system. I haven't managed to find any informantion on the hardware support for this install20:46
ner0xdr_willis: It's perl, not bash. system( 'source ~/.bashrc' ); ?20:46
MacUser_Does anyone know of this information?20:46
jribnawledgebeats: there are two aspects to it: the icons and the theme itself20:46
ActionParsnipner0x: if you cron as your user, is the environment from ~/.bashrc not used already?20:46
dr_willisner0x:  make cron run a shell script that sources it then runs the perl stuff.20:46
jribner0x: also you may need to log out and back in (or restart the bar somehow)20:46
dr_willisActionParsnip:  thats what i was thinking also.. ;)20:46
ActionParsnipner0x: I'd imagine you'd need it if you cron'd as root20:47
TheRealZeusThanks for the help guys!20:47
OerHeksMacUser_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages20:47
jribseems strange to source .bashrc in a cron script though20:47
MacUser_OerHeks I have found that page, but it only has information on 11.10 and it is my understand that 12.04 should have better hardware support20:49
nawledgebeatsjrib: thank you so much everything is working great :D20:49
nawledgebeatsjrib: ill be back im sure.20:49
ner0xI'll just have to absolute url the actual perl.20:51
OerHeksMacUser_, i don't own a mac, i found this howto, maybe any help > http://albert.rierol.net/ubuntu-12.04-LTS-macbook-pro.html20:51
BluesKajrollitup,  Mudita24 , is it totally necessary for your purposes ?20:51
rollitupi feel yes coz it was working when the last time i had this card working20:51
violetinaany idea why all videos swap R with G colors at playback :s or yuv messup not really sure but colors are wrong for sure20:52
dr_willisvioletina:  you are refering to Youtube videos?20:52
violetinanvidia drivers20:52
violetinadr_willis: no not the smurf bug ;)20:52
dr_willisvioletina:  ;)20:52
violetinadr_willis: avi and mpg both act the same btw20:53
dr_willisvioletina:  an avi is a container that could have the same codec as the mpg.20:53
L3mceMacUser_: one of our users has one fully functional except perhaps bluetooth on 1004. Nic needs some help prior to boot... and several params set.20:53
dr_willisvioletina:  as a test you could convert one of the problem vids to some other codecs. ;)20:53
L3mceMacUser_: I expect 1204 would be even smoother.20:54
violetinadr_willis: i tried a vob (mpg2) and some xvid files20:54
rollitupand BluesKaj from what i read that mudita 24 is http://code.google.com/p/mudita24/20:54
dr_willisvioletina:  havent noticed any issues here. but i am on 12.10 :) with its own issues..20:55
MacUser_L3mce I see, but I would need some kind of guide for setting parameters as I'm not that computer savay20:55
MacUser_L3mce if ubuntu 12.04 needed it20:55
violetinahmm not my computer btw , how do i see the ubuntu version?20:56
violetinaah found it 12.04 lts20:56
average_driftervioletina: cat /etc/lsb-release ?20:57
violetinahmm seems in xbmc it is fine , tho mplayer vlc and totem all messup :x20:58
L3mceMacUser_: his wiki is specific to our project and may not at all be relevant to 1204. 1204 MAY work out of the box, but older guides, will almost certainly show you how to make what does not in 1204 work.20:58
solifugusjoin #php20:59
violetinamust be something funky with libav or ffmpeg not sure what ubuntu uses , guess xbmc not uses the system libav21:00
violetinaanyway i can now watch it , will try to find out more about this tomorrow tho i really dont know anything about ubuntu (i'm a gentoo user ;) )21:02
themindbendershow do i send free international sms?21:02
tuxatcomDoes anyone know which preprocessor file i should include when i want to use the getch() in C?21:02
_Tristanapt-get install wine wants to install absolutelyEverything:i386. What do?21:02
violetinabtw anyway to run none composite X ?21:03
usuariogello21:03
xinetuxatcom: getch is Dos/Windows specific, and usually found in conio.h21:03
usuariohello21:03
usuarioI am from spain21:04
usuariohablais español?+21:04
usuarioola gordon21:04
tuxatcomxine, Is there a similar function like getch() in linux?21:04
violetinacompiz acting funky on some apps esp kdenlive , or is there a way to edit the compiz settings?21:04
willdabeastSo I am currently booting a Win XP usb in virtualbox, but there is no where to recognize the usb during boot. Any suggestions?21:05
gordonjcptuxatcom: you can use the ncurses library to get something like getch()21:05
xinetuxatcom: there are replacements for all aspects of it, but not a single function that does everything. what exactly do you need?21:05
Noettorehi, i have a problem: i have some servers that shares some directory with samba and they worked well until last week. Now any pc can't see these shares but if I use "smbclient -L <ip>" or if I enter in Nautilus "smb://<ip>" I can see and access them.21:05
tuxatcomgordonjcp, i tired the ncureses.h but i got an error.21:06
xinetuxatcom: getchar in stdio.h  ( <cstdio> in c++ ) covers quite a bit21:06
gordonjcptuxatcom: bummer21:06
gordonjcptuxatcom: lacking a crystal ball, I cannot help you with this error21:07
willdabeastAnyone know how to boot from usb in virtualbox?21:07
tuxatcomxine, I include stdio.h. I mean a function that can do same tasks like the getch().21:07
rollitupBluesKaj: i also tried adding this line options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010LT21:08
mwelshI'm running Ubuntu 12.04, and VirtualBox to run a RedHat 5 virtual environment.  I am connecting from a windows laptop to the RedHat VM to make a VNC session.  The problem is that Ubuntu detects that there is no monitor attached and resets the resolution from my preference to 800x600.  How can I disable this automatic update of the resolution?21:08
xinetuxatcom: read what I wrote. there is no single function doing _exactly_ the same. so what do you use getch for?21:08
rollituplike it has been posted on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130918721:08
erkan^when is 12.10 releases?21:08
rollitupbtw what was the line that you had suggested me to add can't remember it21:08
jimbo_Hello all21:08
jimbo_would like to request some help with a Gobi2000 modem21:09
tuxatcomgordonjcp, sorry this is the error when i try to use ncurses.h.21:09
g105bJust connected to my PPTP VPN, where I can now access everything within the LAN as if I'm there, but my computer doesn't get any internet connection through the VPN - can someone help me figure this out?21:09
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BluesKaj!who | rollitup21:10
ubotturollitup: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:10
erkan^!12.1021:10
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+121:10
erkan^ah 17 april?21:10
rollitupsorry it was for BluesKaj21:10
tuxatcomxine, I only what to use this function for waiting for a user input to end the programm.21:10
genii-aroundNo, 25th October21:10
erkan^uh? ok21:10
erkan^dus donderdag21:10
danthegeek!whois21:10
erkan^(-:21:10
xinetuxatcom: what happens if you use getchar() ?21:10
rollitupis there any one else who uses M-audio Delta 1010LT soundcard on ubuntu ?21:11
xine(except that you can enter multiple chars...)21:11
BluesKajrollitup, options snd_ice1712 index=021:11
rollitupBluesKaj: does this go under this line # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 021:12
tuxatcomxine, Thanks, getchar() works fine :)21:12
xineapart from that, since there is no "automatic console vanishing" going on on *nix, waiting for a user input only to quit is a rather rare ... "feature" ;-}21:12
BluesKajrollitup, put it at the bottom , that works21:12
MaffHi. Diagnosing an issue with a client's server. For some reason, the permissions on /dev/null are being set to 0600 at boot when they should be 066621:13
_Tristanagain, trying to install wine1.5 in an amd64 world, getting like 50 :i386 dependencies...?21:13
RamtronCan I enable Control+C and Control+V in the Linux Terminal?21:13
xineRamtron: there is no "Linux Terminal"21:13
Ramtron.........21:13
maki_hi,i want to implement something like multiseat21:14
jimbo_yes ramtron press use Shift+Ctrl+V21:14
RamtronCan I enable it?21:14
tuxatcomxine, Don't convict me :) I'm a stupid newbie.21:14
xinethere are a few dozen terminal emulators21:14
Ramtronthanks21:14
maki_appart from messing with .conf files, is there anything else to it?21:14
jimbo_your welcome Ramtron21:14
RamtronI love you, jimbo_21:14
jimbo_LoL thank Ramtron21:15
TJ-maki_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX21:15
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maki_yeah, I come from there21:15
maki_don't i need to install anything else?21:15
jimbo_can anyone help me figure out how to enable my Gobi2000 hardware?21:16
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willdabeastDoes anyone know much about Virtual Machine?21:17
dr_willismaki_:  multiseat is still  a work in progress. i have seen several people in here working on it. and I think working on that  help page mentioned above21:18
DELLHI21:18
BluesKajrollitup, I think the sound will work without Mudita24  . Is pulseaudio installed ?21:18
BluesKajoops21:18
nurfedhi21:18
dr_williswilldabeast:  you mean 'virtual box' ?21:19
Guest57610does any body knows turnkey-twiki default web passwd21:19
DELLWHAT IS GOING ON HERE?21:19
jimbo_looking for help with getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager21:19
gordonjcpjimbo_: plug card in, "Edit Connections..."21:20
jimbo_gordonjcp: it's an embedded card21:20
Fuzzlesin Ubuntu how do i change so it will login automatically?21:21
gordonjcpjimbo_: then, "Edit Connections..."21:21
gordonjcpjimbo_: and stick in the details21:21
MaffHas anyone had experience with permission issues on /dev/null on 12.04 x86 under OpenVZ?21:21
jimbo_gordonjcp thats done; no change21:22
crimsonhatHello. I have a server connected to a switch and I was wondering how I can get a client that is also connected to the switch to talk to the server?21:24
jimbo_gordonjcp:  no change with the "Edit Connections"21:24
zykotick9crimsonhat: assuming you don't have a DHCP server.  set static IPs on both machines...21:25
doug1anyone got any suggestions as to alternatives to packaging software as deb's? FPM maybe?21:25
crimsonhatzykotick9: The server is connected to a modem. Should I just set the server as a dhcp server?21:26
doug1The reason I ask that is because debs are a nightmare21:26
jimbo_looking for help with and/or point me in the right direction for getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager21:26
zykotick9crimsonhat: maybe.  that's really up to you.  best of luck, i have no experience using a computer as a router, so can't help ya.21:27
nurfedI got some problem with gnome2. can i ask about it here?21:27
laenWow many peoples!21:27
zykotick9nurfed: are you using 10.04 Lucid?21:27
L3mcedoug1: ubuntu uses the debian package management system... so... no... nothing else is recommended.21:27
doug1L3mce: yeah that sux21:27
nurfedzykotick9: im using 12.0421:28
zykotick9nurfed: then you aren't using gnome221:28
NET||abusehi there large large list of people.21:28
L3mcedoug1: you can make cheater packages if need be... but... once you do it the right way for a while, it really isn't a big deal.21:28
NET||abuseI have a new box, i have a mouse and a monitor, but no keyboard, is it possible to install an ubuntu server with ssh to a disk without keyboard?21:29
doug1L3mc3: What is the right way? There's more toolsets to build packages than I can count.21:29
nurfedzykotick9: ?21:29
zykotick9nurfed: there is no supported gnome2 for 12.04... thus, you need to be more accurate with what you want help with.  best of luck.21:30
ardchoille!packaging > doug121:30
ubottudoug1, please see my private message21:30
rollitupstill struggling but no sound21:30
rollitup:(21:30
doug1ubottu: I don't think I see a private message.....21:31
ubottudoug1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:31
doug1grrr21:31
doug1ardchoille: no idea what that means21:31
L3mcedoug1: the right way is to use dpkg... lol and follow the package maintenance guideline from debian... but checkinstall is the easy way.21:31
ActionParsniprollitup: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf21:32
ActionParsniprollitup: reboot to test21:32
jimbo_looking for help with and/or point me in the right direction for getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager21:32
zykotick9doug1: fyi, packages created by checkinstall should NOT be distributed to other systems.21:32
ActionParsniprollitup: source http://holdenweb.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/ubuntu-710-sound-on-asus-m2npv-vm.html21:32
veryhappyhi guys, got a problem with my sound, when i connect my earphones then the sound omes over phones and speakers, what can i do there to stop that?21:32
doug1L3mce: What about the other toolsets like fakeroot, dpkg-buildpackage and so on and so on and so and so on....?21:32
ActionParsnipjimbo_: run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides21:32
MASTERPIECEhow is chanel    ubuntu bg21:32
L3mcehttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/   doug121:33
ActionParsnipveryhappy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh21:33
jimbo_ActionParsnip: will try but all the guides I've used haven't allowed me to enable the wwan card21:33
zykotick9nurfed: if you tried to actually install gnome2 on your system, MY suggestion would be "reinstall" (and don't try that again).  please don't pm people without asking first, see "/msg ubottu pm" for details.21:33
rollitupActionParsnip: brb reboot21:34
ardchoilledoug1: the bot should have sent you a pm containing some info on packaging21:34
veryhappyActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/wiYuASMX21:35
L3mcedoug1: the easy (wrong) way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235621:35
MASTERPIECEhow to patch my kernel21:35
Kheohello21:35
nurfedzykotick9: excuse me.21:35
zykotick9!kernel > MASTERPIECE does this help?21:35
ubottuMASTERPIECE, please see my private message21:35
KheoI want to add an user to ftp how can I do this ?21:35
Kheo?21:36
zykotick9Kheo: (sidenote: FTP should die) does your ftp server keep a separate database for user accounts, OR do you just create a regular system user (typically i always had the later, when i used to run ftp servers)21:37
gordonjcpKheo: never ever use ftp21:37
L3mcehttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html    Kheo21:38
ActionParsnipveryhappy: run:  chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh     select to upload to the server and a URL will be generated, what is the URL please?21:38
BluesKajrollitup, I think the sound will work without Mudita24. Is pulseaudio installed ?21:38
doug1ardchoille: yeah, see... that's the issue. We're not putting these packages together for distribution. We just want to use them internally, so this is waaaaay overkill and overengineered for our needs21:38
rollitupActionParsnip: i am back after rebooting and trying but still the same21:38
ActionParsnipKheo: sudo usermod -a -G ftp username21:38
rollitupalso the soundcard that is not working is the secondary one by M-audio not the onboard card21:38
doug1ardchoille: I could spend the next year just reading these docs. I don't have time for that and I don't want to deploy software with tarballs either. I'm an ops guy, not a developer or release engineer21:38
ActionParsniprollitup: ok then remove the line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf21:39
ardchoilledoug1: I see21:39
veryhappyActionParsnip: /tmp/alsa-info.txt.DKIFX3e0I721:39
laenrollitup: reboot again, you normally have to reboot 3 times21:39
doug1ardchoille: With redhat, you have a single spec file... and you use ONE command to build the package. Nice and simple21:39
rollitupBluesKaj: no i dunno if pulseaudio is installed21:39
rollitupActionParsnip: I had21:39
BluesKajrollitup, I'll repeat ,I think the sound will work without Mudita24. Is pulseaudio installed ?21:40
rollitupI hadn't added the lines in alsa-base.conf i ran them in the terminal21:40
ActionParsnipveryhappy: ok, run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.DKIFX3e0I721:40
Kheodoes anybody knows how to help me ?21:40
KheoI want to unistall vsftp21:40
dr_willisKheo:  and how did you install it?21:40
jimbo_wwan device isn't found, how to solve this?21:40
ActionParsnipKheo: use apt-get or software centre21:40
Kheo...21:40
ActionParsnipjimbo_: what wifi chip does it use21:41
Kheocan anybody help me ?!21:41
Kheo..21:41
dr_willishard for us to help when we get answers like '...'21:41
jimbo_ActionParsnip: Novatel21:41
ActionParsnipkhaard: well, you installed it, just reverse the command21:41
BluesKajrollitup, did you use nano in the terminal to add the lines21:41
KheoI just want to remove vsftp and do a fresh new install.21:41
veryhappyActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256939/21:41
ActionParsnipjimbo_: novatel don't make wifi chips21:41
Kheo...21:41
jimbo_oh sorry for wireless its the AR928X21:41
doug1fpm may be a better alternative to debian packages21:41
dr_willisKheo:  if you used the package manager tools to install, then use it to purge/reinstall...21:41
rollitupno BluesKaj i used gedit21:41
KheoI'm using Server.21:41
jimbo_ActionParsnip: oh sorry for wireless its the AR928X21:42
dr_willisKheo:  so you use apt-get    instead of the gui tools..21:42
KheoIt's INSTALED21:42
BluesKajrollitup, do you have pulseaudio installed?21:42
KheoI want to REMOVE it21:42
Kheoand do a fresh INSTALL21:42
dr_willisKheo:  yes.. apt-get remove pacakgename21:42
rollituphow to find it pulseaudio is installed ?21:42
Kheoyou got it ?!21:42
dr_willisKheo:  you dont seem to be the one getting it..21:42
doug1it would also be nice if when you used apt-get it would friggin tell you what version it was installing because it prompted you to proceed.21:42
BluesKajrollitup, just type it in the terminal21:42
theplanetKheo, do you know how to remove a package?21:43
ActionParsnipveryhappy: run: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf21:43
doug1PLUS.... why don't debian packages allow you to set the owner/perms on a file? You have to put chmod commands in the postinst file.21:43
jimbo_how do i private message a person?21:43
rollitupBluesKaj: i get this E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.21:43
ActionParsnipjimbo_: and the output of: lsb_release -sc21:43
Kheook I removed.21:43
Kheonow..21:43
Kheowhat can I do to have different users..use ftp ?21:43
spajderixhi21:43
dr_willisKheo:  apt-get also supports a purge, and reinstall option....21:43
jimbo_ActionParsnip:  precise21:44
KheoI duno all commands..21:44
dr_willisKheo:  clarify what you mean.. you install a ftp server, the users can ftp in normally...21:44
a_b0yhow do i install Microsoft fonts in Ubuntu?21:44
BluesKajrollitup, ok install pavucontrol21:44
Kheono21:44
Kheothey cant.21:44
Kheoso..help me please21:44
ActionParsnipjimbo_: try: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null21:44
dr_willisKheo:  then you need to configure whatever ftp server you are uysing to allow it.21:44
zykotick9Kheo: fyi, purge removes the system settings for the package (BUT not settings in users home directories!)21:44
ActionParsnipjimbo_: sudo modprobe -r ath9k; sudo modprobe ath9k21:44
KheoI can't use root user to login on FTP LOL21:45
Kheo^^21:45
spajderixafter an upgrade some time ago a dedicated space on right side of my touchpad stopped working, scrolling in general works, but a bit on the left from a scroll space, and space itself seems to be disabled, does anyone know how to fix this?21:45
KheoLOL21:45
dr_willisKheo:  That would be very STUPID to allow root to login directly to ftp.21:45
Kheoyes but..I don't have any users yet..21:45
ardchoilleKheo: you shouldn't be using root user at all, the root account is supposed to be locked.21:45
rollitupBluesKaj: I installed pavucontrol21:45
dr_willisKheo:  and theres no direct logging in as root normally on ubuntu21:45
dr_willisKheo:  so... make a user?21:46
Kheowhy ftp server do not let me login with my user ?!??!?!21:46
Kheowtf21:46
dr_willisKheo:  you just said you had no users...21:46
dr_willisKheo:  you just said you had no users...21:46
veryhappyActionParsnip: Command was executed and "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" was inserted.21:46
* zykotick9 ponders sending "root" password across wide open TCP used by FTP :(..21:46
KheoI HAVE MY user...21:46
KheoOMFG21:46
ActionParsnipveryhappy: cool, give it a reboot21:46
veryhappyActionParsnip: Ok, thank you, see you right back.21:46
Costeelationsomeone know the server ftp for download ubuntu?21:47
BluesKajrollitup, ok now set up the inputs and outputs you normally use , but do it in pavucontrol , alt+f2 pavucontrol , will bring it up21:47
Kheoso no help..21:47
Kheothanks for no help.21:47
L3mceKheo: you are giving conflicting information.21:47
dr_willisKheo:  given the lack of actual information youve given us.. it seems you need to be more specific21:47
jimbo_ActionParsnip: permission denied, even with sudo21:47
zykotick9Costeelation: torrent is SO much better.  faster / with error control!21:47
dr_willisKheo:  #1 - what ftp server are you using.21:47
Kheovsftpd21:47
KheoI can't use it..21:48
ActionParsnipjimbo_: at what point do you get the permission denied21:48
Kheohe do not let me do anything..21:48
dr_willisYou just said you uninstalled it..  did you reinstall it?21:48
L3mceno users != a user... and did you read the link I gave?21:48
KheoYES21:48
ActionParsnipKheo: why not install openssh-server and use SFTP21:48
Costeelationzykotick9: :(  then no ther is ftp?21:48
L3mcehttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html  Kheo21:48
gordonjcpKheo: don't use ftp21:48
rollitupBluesKaj: it still does not work21:48
KheoOMFG21:48
Kheo!!!!!!!!21:48
gordonjcpKheo: especially not if you don't know how to configure it21:48
KheoLOL /21:48
Costeelationzykotick9: i will want probe21:48
dr_willisKheo:  using things like OMFG and !!!. tend to get you ignored...21:48
Kheo...omfg21:48
L3mcestop with the hystrionics Kheo.21:48
gordonjcpKheo: ftp sucks, and pretty much guarantees your computer will get broken into21:48
L3mcestop using that acronym here as well.21:48
dr_willisKheo:  i suggest a  aread of the ftp server docs you are using.. have a nice day.21:49
Kheoso nobody can help me using vsftpd ?21:49
dr_willisKheo:  you read its docs/guides yet? thats where to begin.21:49
Kheoyes21:49
jimbo_ActionParsnip: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null21:49
L3mceNot if you are unable/unwilling to read the help I have put here twice now21:49
KheoI read all.21:49
zykotick9Costeelation: search for your local mirror in a web browser would be my suggestion.21:49
dr_willisand its irc channel.21:49
Kheoso nobody can help me using vsftpd ?21:49
dr_willisKheo:  i doubt if you have.21:49
KheoI read them all.21:49
Kheoso nobody can help me using vsftpd ?21:49
L3mceKheo: third time... WHAT ERROR DO YOU GET FOLLOWING THIS http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html21:49
L8DOMG Ubuntu!21:49
Costeelationzykotick9: ok thanks :)21:50
L3mce!details | Kheo21:50
ubottuKheo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:50
gordonjcpKheo: the best help I can give is "do not use ftp"21:50
KheoI said my problem.21:50
rollitupBluesKaj: no luck :)21:50
KheoI can't use vsftpd.21:50
L3mce!details | Kheo21:50
Kheohe do nothing..21:50
L8DDamn you ubuntu...ruining the first experiences of could-of-been linux users!21:50
wlcostaKheo, may I suggest something?21:50
ActionParsnipjimbo_: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null21:50
gordonjcpKheo: use sftp which is basically part of openssh-server, like loads of people have suggested ;-)21:50
KheoI can't use this vsftpd !!!]21:50
zykotick9!ot > L8D21:51
ubottuL8D, please see my private message21:51
gordonjcpKheo: don't use it then21:51
jimbo_ActionParsnip: ok bear with me a moment21:51
KheoLOL21:51
Kheo...21:51
veryhappyActionParsnip: Still output in Earphones + Speaker.21:51
wlcostaSteam is comming. Calm down.21:51
fly[ac100]strange thing - I have add "deb-src http://debian.sur5r.net/i3/ precise universe" to my sources.list and apt-get source i3 give me new release from this repo, but apt-build source i3 use version from official repo21:51
dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html21:51
Kheoso..can anybody help me ?!21:51
fly[ac100]is apt-build too smart?21:51
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Kheo!help21:52
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:52
KheoI want to use vsftpd I install it, I have my user can't do anything on the FTP !21:52
wlcostaKheo, you log in with you user and it gives nothing?21:52
L3mceNot if you refuse to answer the questions and provide us the information we NEED to help you... for example "I typed adduser -c 'FTP USER Tom' -m tom  and it did X."21:52
L3mceNo. I can't read your mind. I do not have a crystal ball.21:53
Kheowlcosta: my ftp client21:53
Kheogives me this21:53
Kheo[03.10.2012 00:51:25] 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/home/santo21:53
KheoERROR:>   [03.10.2012 00:51:25] Syntax error: command unrecognized.21:53
KheoERROR:>   [03.10.2012 00:51:25] Can't login. Disconnecting...21:53
Kheowtf21:53
wlcostaKheo, run it as sudo.21:53
jimbo_ActionParsnip: well the commands wnet through without a hitch however I'm not sure what it accomplished21:53
Kheorun what with sudo ?21:53
wlcostaThe software. Run it as an administrator.21:54
Kheohow ?21:54
KheoI'm using server..21:54
wlcostaServer? Ubuntu server?21:54
KheoYES21:54
Kheoomfg21:54
wlcostaSo you're running it by the terminal via ssh on a cloud, is it this?21:54
zykotick9fly[ac100]: when you run your "apt-get source" you need to specify to get the package from that repo you've added, or it'll grab the default one.  i forget the exact switch.21:54
KheoYES21:55
XaD[SwE]500 OOPS that's not a good sign21:55
Kheocan you help me ?!21:55
wlcostatry sudo vsftpd21:55
Kheo500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket21:55
wlcostajust add sudo at the beggining of the command21:55
veryhappyActionParsnip: when i look into alsamixer then i have more controller but once i mute one controller everything gets muted until i use my volume keys over the keyboard.21:55
Kheo500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket21:55
L3mceKheo stop using that acronym. Stop with the capitals. Stop being rude. Stop insisting you are entitled to help. We are trying to help you, and you are making it difficult, and removing our motivation to do so.21:55
Costeelationzykotick9: this is the server cdimage.ubuntu.com :D :D21:55
jimbo_how do i PM a user?21:55
veryhappyjimbo: here in chat "/msg name text"21:56
KheoL3mce: you're very usefull thanks man !21:56
jimbo_how do i PM a user? I'm using XChat21:56
L3mceI am... You just refuse to follow directions.21:56
KheoL3mce: OK THANKS.21:56
L3mceStop with the caps.21:56
wlcostaKheo, so...21:56
dr_willisthere are several alternative ftp servers in the repos also.21:56
zykotick9jimbo_: safest answer is dont.  "/msg jimbo_ Message"21:56
veryhappyjimbo_: by the way: always asking the same question doesn't help us all.21:56
KheoL3mce: Ok Thank you !21:57
Kheowlcosta: ?21:57
L3mceYou are welcome.21:57
dr_willisjimbo_:  just right click on the nick and open a new window.21:57
KheoL3mce: Ok.21:57
wlcostaKheo, have you tried to run it as a sudo?21:57
KheoYes !21:57
Kheo500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket21:57
wlcostaShit.21:57
L3mce!language21:57
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:57
fly[ac100]zykotick9, apt-get works fine, problem with apt-build21:57
Kheowlcosta: can you help or not ?21:58
wlcostaYes, I can.21:58
zykotick9fly[ac100]: sorry, i've never built a deb (other then the cheat of checkinstall).  good luck man.21:58
wlcostaFirst we will have to change something21:58
wlcostatype nano /etc/vsftpd.conf21:58
wlcostaand search for LISTEN=NO21:59
Kheok21:59
wlcostachange it for LISTEN=YES21:59
wlcostaand try to run it as a sudo again.21:59
L3mcefly[ac100]: I assume you have build-essentials installed?21:59
KheoIt's set with yes21:59
Kheowlcosta: It's set with yes.21:59
wlcostaDamn.21:59
L3mceKheo how did you install this?21:59
L3mcewlcosta: please stop cursing.22:00
Kheosudo apt-get install vsftpd22:00
dr_willisYou do need to restart the vsftp server after editing its cnfig file i belive.22:00
L3mcek...22:00
KheoI did not edit anything22:00
KheoIt was..22:00
Kheowith set with YES22:01
wlcostaKheo, is listen_ipv4 = YES too?22:01
Kheolet me check22:01
KheoI don't have that.22:01
wlcostaKheo, please try this: /etc/init.d/xinetd start22:02
Kheowhat's that ?22:02
L3mceKheo: nano that same config file again... do you have a pam_service_name  entry?22:02
Kheoyes L3mce I have.22:02
theplanetwhy is the maximum entropy as shown by `cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail` only 3968 bytes22:02
KheoIt's pointed to vsftpd22:02
L3mceis it =vsftpd Kheo?22:02
L3mcek22:02
theplaneton all my other machines it goes up to 409622:03
Kheoyes22:03
Kheowlcosta: what's that ?22:03
Kheoxinetd22:03
Kheo?22:03
wlcostaKheo, don't do that, I think L3mce has a better suggestion.22:03
veryhappydoes anyone in here know something about wwan hardware support?22:03
KheoI don't know why my FTP Server stop working correctly..I used with my user..and now I can't access It.22:04
Kheo:(22:04
veryhappyshall be about wwan mobile broadband, please help jimbo_ in that point. thank you22:04
KheoI was trying to do a user to access my ftp..and I do not succed.22:04
wlcostaKheo, I'm leaving now. My last instructions are: enable vsftpd in xinetd --> nano /etc/xinetd.d/ and changing disabled = no and then running xinetd --> /etc/init.d/xinetd start22:04
Kheowlcosta: ok but It has no bussiness with xinetd22:05
zykotick9wlcosta: xinetd is SO outdated.  doesn't vsftp run as it's own deamon?  [it might, but i'd be surprised]22:05
Kheoso..any suggestions ?22:05
wlcostazykotick9, I dunno. That solved this problem with Gentoo users.22:05
zykotick9wlcosta: ubuntu != gentoo22:06
wlcostaOpenSuse *22:06
veryhappyActionPa1snip: Sound still doesn't run properly.22:06
wlcostazykotick9, yes, but vsftpd are the same.22:06
a_b0ya lot of these ubuntu help pages are outdated22:06
Kheoso no help ?22:06
L3mceKheo: try hashing out that listen=yes (put # in front) and rcvsftpd stop and rcxinetd restart and try another ftp start22:06
wlcostaKheo, i need to leave now. I'm sorry if I couldn't  help you.22:07
wlcostaGood night everybody.22:07
MonkeyDusta_b0y  tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic abd point to the pages that need updates22:07
KheoL3mce: where ?22:07
L3mceKheo: If you continue to act as if nobody is trying to help you, I will stop. Your original question was how to add users.22:07
ch33zGah! this is a pain with DNS22:07
ch33zmaybe someone can help me its pretty simple22:07
ch33zbut, not sure whats going on since other sites owrk22:07
Kheono22:07
KheoMy question is why my ftp Server is not working ?!22:08
ch33zjust figured22:08
ch33zI can help with the ftp server if you want22:08
Kheospeak then22:08
ch33zwhats the issue22:08
ch33zscreen shots?22:08
Kheonot working22:08
ch33zpastebin or ssh?22:08
Kheocan't login with ftp client22:08
ch33zlet me see the issue22:08
KheoI can't login with my user22:08
Kheoand I recive this22:09
Kheo[03.10.2012 01:09:09] 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/home/santo22:09
KheoERROR:>   [03.10.2012 01:09:09] Syntax error: command unrecognized.22:09
KheoERROR:>   [03.10.2012 01:09:09] Can't login. Disconnecting...22:09
mcoffinHi! So I'm not a big-time ubuntu guy, I usually stick with raw debian, but I use ubuntu on live cds when I'm fixing friends computers just because its easier. I've been using 10.04 (I know) forever. I recently created a live cd of 12.04 and tried to boot it. It gets through everything and a "Welcome" window appears, but theres just a white rectangle in the middle of it.22:09
ch33zhmm are you using a static?22:09
Kheosanto it's the only user and it has root privileges22:09
Kheostatic what ?22:09
L3mceedit /etc/vsftpd.conf       then in terminal run the command to shutdown  vs, and restart xinetd... and your FIRST question was <Kheo> I want to add an user to ftp how can I do this ?22:09
mcoffinSince its probably relevant, My graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 58022:09
L3mceYou are too combative. I don't care to help any more.22:09
L3mcegood luck22:10
ch33zis anyone good at DNS?22:10
Kheo^^22:10
KheoL3mce: good helper man cheers ^^22:10
Kheoch33z: ?22:10
ch33zyes?22:10
dr_willisI can get anonymous ftp working wth vsftp , but my user cant login. ;) --> vsftp.conf --->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256968/22:10
zykotick9mcoffin: have you tried nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details22:10
Kheoch33z: ?!22:10
Kheo????22:10
dr_willisbut im removeing vsftp for now. :) i dont need or suggest useing a ftp server in this day22:10
KheoCan anybody help me ?!?!22:11
ch33zscrew ftp22:11
ch33zuse sfpt22:11
ch33zsftp22:11
Kheolooool22:11
ch33zthats like running to your with keys naked22:11
ch33zcompared to wearing clothes to your house with keys22:11
KheoCan anybody help me ?!?!22:11
dr_willistheres perhaps a dozen OTHER ftp servers in the repos other then vsftp22:11
wilee-nilee!patience > Kheo22:12
ubottuKheo, please see my private message22:12
mcoffinzykotick9, I'll give it a shot thanks. What exactly does nomodeset stand for out of curiosity?22:12
Kheoubottu: It's helping me a lot !!! :)))22:12
ubottuKheo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:12
Kheoyes..22:12
Kheo^^22:12
MonkeyDustmcoffin  no mode set, no mode has been set22:12
zykotick9mcoffin: kernel setting resolution directly22:12
dr_willissudo apt-get purge vsftpd  then   sudo apt-get install ftpd22:13
dr_willisthen ftp in. ;)22:13
ardchoilleWhat I would like to do is design my own login screen (text color, widget position, graphics, etc.) on Ubuntu 12.04. How do I go about this?22:14
zykotick9dr_willis: from "/info ftpd" it says source: linux-ftpd.  do you know what service is actually installed?22:14
mcoffinzykotick9, cool it works. I take it theres no way I could add that argument to some loader script on the ISO image before burning it?22:14
RamtronHi, does anyone know why my internet takes about 10-15 seconds to connect after resuming ubuntu, or turning the computer on?22:15
MonkeyDustardchoille  use devhelp to learn develop GTK etc, it's in the repos22:15
dr_willisardchoille:  check out lightdm themeing. good luck. :) i dont see much point in worrying about a screen you see for perhaps 10 sec when you login.22:15
ardchoilleMonkeyDust: thank you22:15
zykotick9mcoffin: it's basically an issue that only affects non-opensource drivers - so we get what we deserve!  i live with it, but it's ALWAYS the first thing i do with a new install ;)22:15
KheoSo anybody can help me with vsftpd ?!??!!??!!?22:15
MonkeyDust!info devhelp22:16
ubottudevhelp (source: devhelp): GNOME developers help program. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 14 kB, installed size 119 kB22:16
dr_williszykotick9:  no idea. I just serached the repos.22:16
ActionPa1snipRamtron: what network chip?22:16
RamtronAtheros I believe22:16
zykotick9dr_willis: cool, thanks ;)22:16
dr_williszykotick9:  vsftp seems to be very locked down. ;)22:16
RamtronHow do I tell in ubuntu?22:16
Kheoanybody on this channel with 1000 bots can help me ?!22:16
ardchoilledr_willis: that's a very good point22:16
wilee-nileeRamtron, Whatsa matter that the 10-15 seconds you will never get back? ;)22:16
RamtronI'm impatient, and I dislike waiting 10-15 seconds for it to connect22:16
mcoffinzykotick9, Hmmm.. unfortunate but deserved. Thanks for the help. I'd forgotten how quality IRC was (is?).22:16
wilee-nileelol22:16
zykotick9dr_willis: ftp must die, this is a REALLY good page on the subject http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie (stolen from #debian's ftpmustdie factoid)22:16
Kheo!help22:17
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:17
KheoSo anybody can help me with vsftpd ?!??!!??!!?22:17
dr_williszykotick9:  yep. read that and pasted the url here befor many a time.22:17
ActionPa1snipRamtron: sudo lshw -C network     what is the chip?22:17
MonkeyDustKheo  some 20 people in the channel #vsftp22:17
MonkeyDustKheo  correction: some 20 people in the channel #vsftpd22:18
Kheo^^22:18
dr_willisKheo:  or just use that 'ftpd' package... and dont use vsftpd22:18
MisterMobileHello.  Anyone familliar with installing NaturallySpeaking 11.5??22:18
Ramtron product: AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet22:18
Ramtron vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.22:18
Kheodr_willis: I use what I want.22:18
dr_willisKheo:  aparently you cant...22:18
L3mcelol22:18
genii-aroundMisterMobile: That would not be a linux application.22:18
zykotick9i like proftpd cause it was kinda apache-ish in configuration.  still remember slow login issue ;)  solution: disable reverse lookup22:18
KheoI can't not because of me..I did what it's written by others..like you ^^22:18
Kheoso you can't help ?22:19
L3mceRamtron: do you by chance have a wireless nic on this install as well, that perhaps NM is waiting to come alive before enabling networking?22:19
Kheowasting my time with you ?22:19
RamtronActionPa1snip:  product: AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet22:19
Ramtron       vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.22:19
Ramtronno I don't22:19
RamtronNot that I know of anyway22:19
MisterMobileHave tried using Wine and crossover with no luck22:19
ch33zKheo please leave22:19
dr_willisch33z:  too late. ;P22:19
ch33zKheo is a troll22:20
dr_willisI neer did get vsftp for my system users working. just anonymous.. but its been purged now.22:20
SanguionAny place I can go for ubuntu help? Is this the place?22:20
ActionPa1snipRamtron: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc22:20
MonkeyDustSanguion  it's here22:20
ch33zSanguion nope22:20
ch33zwrong place22:20
RamtronActionPa1snip: Precise?22:21
SanguionGreat. Noveau hates me. I get an infinite loop while attempting to instal Ubuntu.22:21
ActionPa1snipRamtron: cool22:21
dr_willisSanguion:  try the nomodeset option?22:21
RamtronAny ideas?22:21
L3mceRamtron: output of lspci -nn | grep -iE '(ethernet|wlan|wireless)'22:21
L3mceis it more than one line?22:21
ActionPa1snipRamtron: if you set a static IP is it ok?22:21
Sanguiondr_willis: How do I try that option? There is never an opportunity to use a console or change options.22:22
L3mcegood q ActionPa1snip22:22
dr_willis!nomodeset | Sanguion22:22
ubottuSanguion: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:22
RamtronActionPa1snip, I dunno haha22:22
RamtronL3mce:05:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1063] (rev c0)22:22
dr_willisSanguion:  you hit space when ya see a man=keyboard icon then F5 I belive22:22
SanguionOh. Will try, thanks.22:22
ActionPa1snipRamtron: worth trying, also try a different port on the switch/router/whatever22:22
RamtronIt does it with all the internets I connect to, not just one22:23
ActionPa1snipRamtron: try a static IP. Are there any bugs reported?22:24
RamtronI saw on Google that my network router has had this problem previously, but there weren't any fixes for it22:24
Ramtronnetwork card*22:24
MisterMobileHelp needed installing DNS 11.5 in UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.  Have tried using wine as well as crossover with no luck.  Any answers?22:25
zykotick9MisterMobile: installing DNS 11.5 (is that some MS software?) - try in the #winehq channel maybe22:28
ActionPa1snipRamtron: then there may be a firmware update for the device, try static ip22:28
RamtronHow do I try that?22:28
MisterMobileReference to DNS 11.5 is Dragon naturally speaking22:29
RamtronIs there a command for static IP?22:31
ActionPa1snipRamtron: use network manager22:31
zykotick9Ramtron: use your network manager icon22:31
L3mceMisterMobile: if whinehq database does not have a solution, I think you are without luck unless you just want to run a win vm inside of ubuntu.22:31
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RamtronI'm not seeing it in there22:32
arch_adamhas any one got photoshop running stable with wine?22:33
ActionPa1snipRamtron: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=set+static+IP+ubuntu22:33
zykotick9arch_adam: #winehq22:33
L3mce!wine22:33
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:33
ActionPa1sniparch_adam: I suggest you check the appdb22:33
L3mceappdb that is what I am looking for... sorry.22:33
L3mce!AppDB22:33
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help22:33
MisterMobileI<zykotick9> Dragon IS a 'Microsoft' program in which I currently run in windows XP Pro.  Have considered a virtual solution inside of Wine or crossover but that's not my preference22:34
arch_adamok , ubuntu has unity now, can i customize that to open box or awesome?22:34
lnxslckarch_adam, customize what?22:34
zykotick9arch_adam: yes.  install new wm.  log out.  choose new.  log in.22:34
arch_adamcool22:35
arch_adamis there any backdoors like there is in mac and windows?22:35
woot-0854arch: always22:36
zykotick9arch_adam: much less likely.  <but OT in nature>22:36
dr_willis'any backdoors' ? how vague...22:38
dr_willisbrb22:38
WeThePeoplewill deleting winxp from a dual boot with ubuntu mess with the MBR22:38
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WeThePeopleor grub22:39
L3mceHow do you plan on 'deleting windows' WeThePeople?22:39
WeThePeoplel3mce, yes22:39
WeThePeoplethen reinstalling22:39
forgotmynickwhy the fudge does the live cd keep asking for username and password?!22:40
L3mceWeThePeople: you will still have a grub entry... reinstalling WILL mess with the mbr and grub... you will need to reinstall/update grub22:40
L3mceforgotmynick: An ubuntu live cd will not...22:41
WeThePeoplel3mce, forgotmynick, where did you get the image from??22:42
forgotmynickL3mce, downloaded from http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso22:42
forgotmynickWeThePeople^ I made a bootable USB with unetbootin22:42
WeThePeoplel3mce, will i be able to boot from the grub into tty?22:44
Kheohello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!22:44
L3mceWeThePeople: no. You will need to do a live boot and fix grub from there.22:44
WeThePeopleok22:44
Kheohello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!22:44
WeThePeoplekheo, please be patient22:45
Kheolol I must wait 2 days ?22:45
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ahmedipahi everybody22:46
WeThePeoplehi22:46
ahmedipahow are you doing ?22:46
Kheohello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!22:46
L3mceGood, do you have an issue we can help with ahmedipa?22:46
dr_willisKheo:  from what ive been googling. Vsftp is a bit broken. so good luck.22:46
ahmedipaWeThePeople: hi22:46
zykotick9ahmedipa: see "/msg ubottu ask" - ask your question on one line, no "chit-chat" here ;)22:46
dr_willisKheo:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/86968422:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 869684 in vsftpd (Ubuntu) "530 login incorrect error after upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed]22:46
scatterpcan i get some help with my webcam ?22:46
L3mceCan you use your cam with cheeze scatterp?22:47
zykotick9scatterp: does it work in cheese?  that's all the help i got - best of luck.22:47
scatterpL3mce,  no22:47
scatterpi Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install how22:47
scatterpever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do i am running ubuntu 12.0422:47
L3mcescatterp: then it is going to be beyond me, if it can be fixed at all22:48
scatterpL3mce,  ok22:48
scatterpzykotick9, ok thx22:48
ActionPa1snipscatterp: if you install and run cheese, does it work?22:48
zykotick9scatterp: personalyFYI that was an awesome question, you should have led with that ;) :)22:49
scatterpActionPa1snip, no22:49
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MisterMobileHelp needed installing Dragon naturally speaking.  11.5  using wine &/or  cross over22:50
ahmedipazykotick9: do you mean just one line no multiline do you mean if I paste22:50
zykotick9ahmedipa: just ask your question ;)22:50
Kheohello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!22:50
woot-0854Kheo: idk i use gftp22:51
Kheolol?22:51
ahmedipazykotick9: my question is no free space , I can't install application22:51
ahmedipazykotick9: what should I do22:51
zykotick9ahmedipa: pastebin "df -h"22:51
zykotick9ahmedipa: "sudo apt-get clean" will delete your downloaded DEB cache.  ususally frees some space.22:52
dr_willisKheo:  seems a lot of people cant use vsftp - it seems broken with PAM issues. from what ive been googling. Vsftp is a bit broken.22:52
WeThePeoplel3mce, fix grub? you mean fix mbr22:53
WeThePeopleor both22:54
zykotick9dr_willis: the even better answer being, "don't use ftp" ;)22:54
dr_williszykotick9:  yep. but i was trying to get vsftp going in 12.10 even..  it seems to definatly still have PAM issues. did some looking and saw its had issues since a few releases back.22:55
THEJOLLYGRIMREAPdoes anyone remember what the solution was to the bug that made ubuntu 10.04 freeze up22:55
zykotick9dr_willis: i 100% believe your issue.  kinda nice to feel that way ;)22:55
zykotick9dr_willis: s/issue/bug/ ;)22:56
dr_williszykotick9:  ;) its so secure it cant be used!22:57
FireStormsHi, in Ubuntu, using the chmod command how would you change *directory permission only* within a folder that contains hundreds of directories and files (mixed)?22:57
L3mceWeThePeople: when you install windows... it will take over MBR... THEN you will have to boot live, chroot into the ubuntu install, and grub-install then update-grub22:58
MonkeyDustFireStorms  to be sure, create a folder with some random files in it, change the folders chmod and see if the files changed too22:58
Dragon64hello, I have a laptop with an embedded intel video chip. My webcam works in Windows 7, but is very choppy in Unbuntu 12.04. I am using cheese and have followed the instructions for choppy video in the cheese faq. Anyone have any other thoughts?22:58
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zykotick9L3mce: i think grub-fix or something like that is recommended these days.  chroot instructions are NO LONGER on the grub2 wiki page :(..22:59
zykotick9!fixgrub22:59
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:59
BarkingFishevening all :)  Can someone help me figure something out please?  I installed the ubuntu desktop / unity last night, and I'm in KDE right now - and something that I installed last night, is working on the KDE desktop, but it's not a KDE feature.22:59
L3mceOkey doke... Dunno about that. THanks for the update zykotick9. I can help you chroot WeThePeople, or you should probably read those links instead23:00
ActionPa1snipFireStorms: you'll need to use:  find -t d      to find the folders, then chmod that23:00
BarkingFishBasically, when I get near to a scrollbar, I get what looks like a rocker switch with 2 arrows which allows me to fast scroll through whatever is on the bar, and it follows the mouse.  I want to know what it is, if anyone has any clues please.23:00
mcoffinBarkingFish, Did you include gnome in your OS install by accident?23:00
FireStormsMonkeyDust, yes, everything did change23:01
FireStormsActionPa1snip, thanks I'll look into that :)23:01
BarkingFishmcoffin, I have Kubuntu  - I installed the ubuntu desktop last night to make some gnome apps work that didn't on Kubuntu alone23:01
zykotick9BarkingFish: IF you don't get an answer here, you might want to try asking in #kubuntu23:02
MisterMobileDoes anyone know of a good speech to text program for UBUNTU?23:02
WeThePeopleok, thanks23:02
BarkingFishzykotick9, the reason I'm asking here is what I have is not part of kubuntu :)23:02
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: the default behavior for chmod is to just change permissions for a single argument23:02
dr_williszykotick9:  ha! :) Fixed it with my leet-google-fu skills.. well found a forum post..23:02
mcoffinBarkingFish, Sorry I'm no expert on window environments, that just popped in to my head so I thought I'd try and help :D23:02
zykotick9BarkingFish: i realize that.  but, unity people would have no idea what's in kde.  i figure a kde user must have run into this issue before.23:03
BarkingFishno probs, thanks anyway - I'll try and get a screenshot of it to show you what I'm seeing - which might help.23:03
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: you'd need to use the -R option to change recursively, which would change permissions for all subfolders and files23:03
L3mcedr_willis: did it involve hashing the listen thing in config?23:03
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, fss how many names begin with cyber. I'm using it with the -R flag, even then?23:03
zykotick9dr_willis: nice ;)23:03
dr_willisL3mce:  nope.. was utterly trivial.. and weird.... here it is..23:03
dr_willisin /etc/vsftpd.conf:23:03
BarkingFishyeah zykotick9 - this is part of the unity install / ubuntu desktop though, so I thought I'd come to you first23:03
dr_willispam_service_name=vsftpd -> pam_service_name=ftp23:03
WeThePeoplel3mce, will i need internet access to install update grub?23:03
L3mceI was close... lol23:03
FireStormsahh bit of miscommunication23:03
dr_willisL3mce:  changed that one thing.. and it started working.. from vsftpd to ftp...23:03
L3mceno WeThePeople23:03
dr_willisL3mce:  seems pam wants the service to be named ftp. not vsftpd i guess...23:04
dr_williswell its logged now in the channel logs for Ever!23:04
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: if you're using the -R flag, it is going to change everything in all the subdirectories as well23:04
MonkeyDustMisterMobile  try festival23:04
zykotick9BarkingFish: best of luck man.  you might get an answer here, patience is a good thing.23:04
WeThePeoplel3mce, all right one problem though, gparted for some reason shows all of my hdd as unallocated.23:05
L3mceuh... WeThePeople... thats not good.23:05
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, as ActionPa1snip said, I might need to use the find command in conjunction with chmod23:05
BarkingFishyep, as soon as this screenshot decides to upload, I will be able to show you the problem rather than just describe it in a vague manner :P23:05
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: are you trying to change just a single directory?23:06
L3mceWeThePeople: make sure you are looking at the correct drive... and... did you reinstall windows already?23:06
WeThePeoplel3mce, nope havent touch anything yet, i only have one drive to select.. lol23:06
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, lol no, there's many nested directories... I got 1/3 way though in 20 minuites and quit23:06
mcoffinIs there a ubottu command that will point me towards the great list of pros and cons for gnome and plasma?23:07
MisterMobile<MonkeyDust> I HAVE HEARD OF FESTIVAL,  H, how good is it compared to Dragon naturally speaking??23:07
Dragon64hello, I have a laptop with an embedded intel video chip. My webcam works in Windows 7, but is very choppy in Unbuntu 12.04. I am using cheese and have followed the instructions for choppy video in the cheese faq. Anyone have any other thoughts?23:07
mcoffinI can't seem to find it23:07
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: how about you tell me exactly what you're trying to do23:07
L3mceWeThePeople: what does sudo fdisk -l      look lik23:07
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: are you trying to change all the directories permissions?23:07
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, ok23:07
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, I have a web directory, the permissions of dirs need changing to 500 and file 40023:08
FireStormsfiles*23:08
CyberspaceloaFirestorms: cd to the parent directory23:08
zykotick9mcoffin: don't expect much KDE info in the default ubottu factoids... but specifically, not that I know of.  i believe "/msg ubottu brain" might link to a url with all the factoids if you want to search.23:08
AndroUserI'm having an issue with Ubuntu at boot. Stuck in an infinite loop.23:08
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: find . -type d -execdir chmod 500 '{}' \;23:08
L3mceMisterMobile: IMO nothing is as good as dragon... but festival is as good as you will get native to linux.23:09
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: find . -type f -execdir chmod 400 '{}' \;23:09
FireStormsyes?23:09
CyberspaceloaFireStorms: those two commands should do it, but test them first in a trivial environment23:09
L3mceFireStorms: that should be executed IN the directory23:09
mcoffinzykotick9, thanks again. You're seriously trying harder than 99% of people who get payed to do stuff like this.23:10
L3mceDoing so lower can blow stuff up23:10
FireStormsI shall try now, thanks23:10
CyberspaceloaL3mce: Yes he needs to cd to the parent directory as I said23:10
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WeThePeoplel3mce, img of gparted>>> http://imgh.us/gparted.jpg  paste.ubuntu of fdisk -l >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257040/23:10
L3mcesorry Cyberspaceloa... was just making sure that was understood.23:10
AndroUserI'm getting nouveau Failed to idle cahnnel 123:10
CyberspaceloaL3mce: no prob, it's a good idea23:11
L3mceWeThePeople: well the fdisk shows we are in good shape.23:11
ActionPa1snipAndroUser: blacklist the nouveau driver, may help23:11
AndroUserHow is that done?23:11
zykotick9mcoffin: thanks man, that was really nice to say.23:12
L3mceWeThePeople: that is 93 gb... whatever it is... it aint your hard drive...23:12
MisterMobileL3mce  ->  I keep asking for help installing Dragon through line or cross over, but no one has the answer...23:12
CyberspaceloaMisterMobile: that's probably because it may not be possible. You already stated you've tried with wine and crossover23:12
CyberspaceloaMisterMobile: if anyone has an idea, they'll pipe in23:12
L3mceWeThePeople: I see now... that is the root of the drive... drop it down to the other partitions.23:12
FireStormsand it worked + I learned something new23:12
L3mceMisterMobile: Nor do I have an answer... I am all linux... I simply live without it.23:13
FireStormsCyberspaceloa, L3mce, ActionPa1snip, MonkeyDust I thank you23:13
nawledgebeatscan someone tell me why i have to type Nomodeset23:13
* FireStorms goodbye23:13
BarkingFishzykotick9, anyone else who can help - the thing I'm pointing to in this screenshot is what I'm trying to identify from unity/gdm > http://imgur.com/YRim623:13
nawledgebeatsjrib:?23:13
nawledgebeatsJrib: you still here?23:14
WeThePeoplel3mce, thats the only one i can select in the drop down menu23:14
L3mcenawledgebeats: the answer will depend on your GPU chipset, how it addresses the frame buffer and the driver you use.23:14
MisterMobileYeah, I'm trying to get away from Windows myself.  This is my first time I wasn't sure how the chat system works23:14
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nawledgebeatshmm23:14
zykotick9BarkingFish: that looks like the scroll bar to me (i don't use unity or kde, so have no idea)  good luck.23:14
L3mceWeThePeople: I am not sure I understand why you are there frankly... but... as I said... your hard drive is fine, and we will just be using the command line.23:15
nawledgebeatsl3mce: i dont know what graphics card i have but how can i solve this issue23:15
AndroUserI'm having issues with my gpu as well. I used Nomodeset to instal ubuntu, but now I'm stuck in an error loop upon booting.23:15
L3mcenawledgebeats: you will add it to your boot configuration so you dont have to manually type it.23:15
L3mce!nomodeset | nawledgebeats23:15
ubottunawledgebeats: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:15
zykotick9nawledgebeats: do you have nvidia/ati?  those require nomodeset usually.  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for more details.23:16
ahmedipaQuestion23:16
nawledgebeatsubottu: can i save it so nomodeset is always there?23:16
zykotick9nawledgebeats: fyi "lspci | grep -i vga" should show you graphics card (unless you use hybrid)23:16
BarkingFishok zykotick9 - normally my scrollbar is just a gray bar with an arrow at each end for rapid up and down, and the actual bar in the middle. This has got to be a GDM / Unity thing23:16
BarkingFishI will try and locate it.23:16
BarkingFishThanks23:16
L3mcenawledgebeats: yes...23:16
zykotick9nawledgebeats: edit /etc/default/grub to make nomodeset permanent23:16
WeThePeoplel3mce, how long will you be on #ubuntu for?, i have to check i have all the software off of Winxp yet23:16
zykotick9nawledgebeats: fyi you need to run "sudo update-grug" after changing the grub file mentioned above to apply the settings.23:17
L3mceWeThePeople: I have nothing on deck, but emergencies crop up. No promises, but I should be around.23:17
zykotick9nawledgebeats: sorry typo "sudo update-grub"23:17
WeThePeopleok23:17
nawledgebeatsthank you thank you.23:17
ahmedipahow can I uninstall windows application that work under linux ??23:18
L3mceahmedipa: you are going to have to give more detail to that question.23:19
nawledgebeatszy: is this right??? http://pastebin.com/UE7pSqh323:19
Tigerboyahmedipa: many windows applications work under "Wine" which is an emulator - or also try "virtualbox" which creates a virtual machine in a window on your desk- you can install Windows XP or other operating systems on it and have full access to it whilst you are on Ubuntu.23:20
ahmedipaL3mce: I installed itunes application throw wine and I want to uninstall it ? how can I do that ?23:20
ActionPa1snipahmedipa: run: uninstaller23:20
ninjaaronI'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with an alternative window manager (herbstluftwm), and it is mostly fine, but certain things do not work.  Most notably, the power button.23:20
nawledgebeatszykotick9: is this right???23:20
zykotick9nawledgebeats: me?  see "/msg ubottu tab" for info on TABing in irc.  sorry i don't visit pastebin.com.  see "/msg ubottu paste" for an alternative i will go to.23:20
ActionPa1snipahmedipa: if yuo only have itunes installed, just delete the ~/.wine folder23:21
nawledgebeatsdarn23:21
zykotick9ahmedipa: WARNING deleting .wine will delete EVERYTHING you've installed!23:21
ActionPa1snipzykotick9: hence the word 'only'23:21
ninjaaronso I have no way to suspend with this window manager aside from  issuing the command `sudo pm-suspend`.23:21
f00lhardyhow does one raise sytem volume via terminal?23:22
ahmedipa zykotick9: How can I delete only itunes23:22
nawledgebeatsL3mce: can you view this and see if its correct? http://pastebin.com/UE7pSqh323:22
hmmwhatsthisdof00lhardy:23:23
hmmwhatsthisdohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/97936/terminal-command-to-set-audio-volume23:23
f00lhardyalsamixer23:23
ActionPa1snipahmedipa: run the uninstaller in the itunes folder23:23
hmmwhatsthisdo(silly enter key)23:23
jhgjhgCan you change Nomodeset from the bootmenu? I can't get in to the desktop23:23
f00lhardyoh ok, thanks hmmwhatsthisdo23:23
Tigerboyninjaaron: one way is to open terminal and type sudo halt  or else use "sudo shutdown -h now" both will shut your system down safely- to reboot just type "reboot"23:23
zykotick9jhgjhg: yes.  use e23:23
jhgjhgAh. Thanks zykotick923:23
ninjaaronTigerboy: Yes, that is what I'm doing currently doing, but I was looking for a way to do it without having to type my password every time I want to shudown or suspend.23:24
ActionPa1snipahmedipa: I've seen videos on youtube how to get itunes on Ubuntu with wine but I don't buy apple rubbish so can't say if they actually work23:24
TigerboyNinjaaron: can I know the wm you are using?23:25
ActionPa1snipahmedipa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M23:25
ninjaaronTigerboy: Herbstluftwm23:25
L3topninjaaron: are you using arch?23:27
ninjaaronTigerboy: I've managed to get some of my Gnome stuff working with `gnome-settings-daemon`, but other things don't seem to be working.23:27
ninjaaronL3top: no, 12.04 LTS23:27
TigerboyNinjaaron: have not used that -- do you have all the gnome packages installed that might help23:27
zykotick9L3top: fyi EVERYTHING self-respecting gnu/linux distro "should" require root-privs to shutdown/suspend.23:27
jimbo_can anyone help with getting my wwan up and going?23:28
ninjaaronPretty sure.  I didn't delete Unity or anything (I still use it sometimes, depending on the task).23:28
Tigerboyninjaaron: there is a lovely shutdown button in the screenlets manager (add package screenlets)23:28
muelli!anyone | jimbo_23:28
ubottujimbo_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:28
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* L3top isn't aware of the issue, have only seen herb on arch before... that was the reason I asked23:29
rbik?join python23:29
L3toprbik: /join #python23:29
rbik#?join python23:29
TigerboyNinjaaron: it will appear on the desktop-- go into screenlets manager once installed and add all the extra screenlets packages -- then find the shutdown button- highlight it and tick the start and startup boxes on the left23:29
rbikL3top: thanks!23:30
ninjaaronL3top: it's in the Debian testing and unstable repos, and hence, in Ubuntu.23:30
jimbo_ubottu:  ...and if I don't know how to ask the right question?23:30
ubottujimbo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:30
L3topWas just curious ninjaaron... now considering taking a look...23:30
TigerboyNinjaaron: one instance will appear of the button on your desktop-- just move it to your preferred spot23:30
L3top!details | jimbo_23:30
ubottujimbo_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:30
ninjaaronL3top: I get it through a PPA, however, to get the latest version.23:30
L3topninjaaron: if you would like to give me your impression in #ubuntu-offtopic I would be very interested to hear.23:32
ninjaaronTigerboy: will give it a try.23:32
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homecablewhats a /home/user dir chmoded to ?23:32
pr0metheu5How do I uninstall xubuntu-desktop/xfce?23:33
TigerboyNinjaaron: screenlets manager will appear on your launchbar when you run it -- just right click it to gain features23:33
L3tophomecable: I do not understand your question as it sits.23:33
pr0metheu5Sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, will that be sufficient?23:33
homecablewhat chmod is drwxr-xr-x23:33
zykotick9pr0metheu5: i believe the second command is simply "apt-get autoremove"23:34
zykotick9prooz: and your sudo with && wouldn't apply the the 2nd command.23:34
L3topOh sorry homecable... I somehow read that chmod as chroot... one second.23:34
zykotick9pr0metheu5: see above.23:34
ssfdre38is there a way to get Recordmydesktop to capture my audio without me turning up my speakers for my mic to pick it up23:34
user123abc_is it harmful to restart the X server via Alt-PrntScrn-K ?23:35
zykotick9user123abc_: i wouldn't if you can avoid it.23:35
user123abc_zykotick9, could you explain?23:35
user123abc_zykotick9, or are you just arguing from a common sense perspective?23:36
Tigerboyssfdre38: you can use Jack demon -- little tricky to set up23:36
zykotick9user123abc_: probably leaves most of your processes hanging, where a more normal quit would be more graceful.23:36
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zykotick9user123abc_: i think of alt-sysrq-k as -9 but worse...23:36
user123abc_zykotick9, is it really implemented via kill -9? I guess it should be, but can anyone confirm?23:37
zykotick9user123abc_: alt-sysrq-k != the old ctrl+alt+backspace IMO23:37
L3tophomecable: the dir itself is 755, the content within is everywhere from 600 to 77523:37
zykotick9user123abc_: the sysrq is deeper then -9 in many ways!23:38
user123abc_zykotick9, I'd be curious to know how23:38
zykotick9user123abc_: "deeper" in this case meaning "worse" ;)23:38
EthicI'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH23:38
javier_chocha23:38
javier_us this, ETHIC - www.theync.com.  there's an answer23:39
zykotick9user123abc_: sysrq can do CRAZY stuff, at almost the kernel level!  that's why it's used for the ultimate-last-ditch-effort restart.23:39
user123abc_zykotick9, but yeah, to repeat, do you have more ideas about how it's actually implemented? or do you just mean that the timing of the signal is unfortunate23:39
zykotick9!sysrq23:39
lsj8924hello23:39
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key23:39
lsj8924good morning23:39
ActionPa1snipuser123abc_: could run:  killall -u $USER     instead23:40
sssilverHello everyone. When I attach my PS/2 mouse, there's nothing on dmesg. Also, the mouse doesn't work even if I restart the PC. What gives?23:40
user123abc_ActionPa1snip, hmm, I'm tempted to try that out right now23:40
ActionPa1snipsssilver: is the ps2 port enabled in BIOS?23:40
sssilverActionPa1snip: I believe so23:40
zykotick9user123abc_: sysrq is a different thing then signals.  it's, in my words only, "deeper"23:40
muellisssilver: hm. It's not hotplug, so you do have to reboot.23:40
muellisssilver: how do you know the mouse is not working after reboot?23:41
sssilvermuelli: the cursor won't react to my mouse movements?23:41
ActionPa1snipsssilver: you should check23:41
WeThePeoplel3mce, ok all set to partition :O23:41
user123abc_zykotick9, I'm trying to look up what syscall it might be using23:41
zykotick9user123abc_: alt+sysrq+k is fine, if "sudo service lightdm restart" has failed already.23:42
user123abc_zykotick9, do you happen to know?23:42
f00dMonstaanyone know how I can make Eclipse run faster? :/ I'm already using Oracle's Java23:42
zykotick9user123abc_: no idea23:42
muellisssilver: I guess it's a statement, not a question, despite the question mark. can you pastebin us the output of "xinput"? And maybe "dmesg"?23:42
user123abc_zykotick9, nah, I guess I was hoping that I could just use it as a "too lazy to press the log-out button" type of thing23:42
user123abc_zykotick9, but as you say, that would be unwise23:42
solocommandSo I've heard that enabling tcp delayed ACK can help with samba lag. Does anyone know how to enable it on oneric? I've seen net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack listed as the variable for sysctl, but that path doesn't exist for me under /proc/sys23:42
zykotick9user123abc_: i wouldn't recommend it ;)23:42
KRomeleoNhow do i delete "web apps"23:43
Smackbookhow can you stop the update manager from popping up?23:43
KRomeleoNlike, i have 2 amazon shortcuts and an omgubuntu shortcuts23:43
zykotick9Smackbook: you want it too.23:43
Smackbookzykotick9: no i dont23:43
Kvothe_Hi, there's any deniable encryption filesystem, what it's not: truecrypt. And there's not too old?23:43
dr_willisKRomeleoN:  i cant even get any to show up here. ;) the browser dialog asks.. but they never appear23:44
L3topKvothe_: You are going to have to work harder on your syntax. I do not understand that.23:44
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Kvothe_L3top, sorry, something like, rubberhose23:45
WeThePeoplel3top, is this l3mce??23:45
L3topYes.23:45
KRomeleoNdr_wills its annoying hehe23:45
sssilver_I don't know how to copy the input of xinput without a mouse :'(23:45
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L3topWas I on as l3mce earlier? I shouldn't have been23:45
EthicI'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH23:45
WeThePeoplel3top, can you help with command line to delete windows xp?23:45
muellisssilver_: use pastebinit, i.e. xinput | pastebinit23:45
user123abc_zykotick9, hmm, there doesn't seem to be a "murder_death_all()" syscall23:45
iCarlyKvothe_, if deniabe=reliable: encfs + cryptkeeper23:46
zykotick9user123abc_: i'm sure there is ;)23:46
f00dMonstaanyone know how I can make Eclipse run faster? :/ I'm already using Oracle's Java23:46
muellif00dMonsta: more RAM23:46
muelliit's Java.23:46
f00dMonstamuelli: I have 8Gb of Ram23:46
muellif00dMonsta: more23:46
Smackbookapparently this http://lifehacker.com/5295449/disable-ubuntus-annoying-update-manager-popup doesnt work anymore because the structure of the gconf-folder no longer has an auto_launch option to uncheck23:47
f00dMonstamuelli: it's not even using 200mb according the eclipse's heap thingy23:47
AnonHumanhello23:47
pr0metheu5Can I somehow give my current install more space, using gparted or such?23:47
muellipr0metheu5: yes23:47
L3topWeThePeople: You could just format the partition, you could zero it out with dd, you could wipe it, you could shred it... I am not sure what you are trying to do or why...  I need to know why you want to "delete" windows rather than simply install over it...23:47
pr0metheu5oh, cool23:47
sssilver_muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257079/23:48
ActionPa1snipsolocommand: you can put options in /etc/sysctl.conf23:48
Smackbookah! simple: sudo apt-get remove update-manager23:48
KRomeleoNlike, i have 2 amazon shortcuts and an omgubuntu shortcuts23:48
KRomeleoNhow do i delete "web apps"23:48
Smackbookwhodathunk23:48
muellisssilver_: Is this your mouse? "KYE 4D device Ergomedia "23:48
ActionPa1snip!amazon | KRomeleoN23:48
AnonHumanyou delete web apps23:48
OerHeksKRomeleoN, better ask in #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10 support.23:49
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sssilver_muelli: it could be, it's a very old Genius23:49
WeThePeoplel3top, how would i install over winxp, just set boot order to boot from cd and go from there?23:49
sssilver_muelli: so, KYE sounds about right23:49
ActionPa1snipKRomeleoN: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping.23:49
muelliKRomeleoN: can you not right click and remove?23:49
muellisssilver_: so you don't know yet whether this is your device? Can you find out easily?23:50
sssilver_muelli: here's dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257080/23:50
L3topWeThePeople: this is really straying outside of ubuntu support, but... just put in the windows dvd and do a fresh install. It will only see the first partition, just dont let it overwrite and use the whole drive.23:50
jgcampbell300anyone around23:51
sssilver_muelli: looks like that is it23:51
WeThePeopleok23:51
muellihm sssilver_. Looks good to me: "mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice". Looks like the kernel recognises your device.23:51
muellibut your cursor on the screen doesn't move when you move the mouse, sssilver_?23:51
TigerboyWethePeople: just simply create new partitions("something else" option during partition install)- ext4 is a good format to use and at the bottom of the window where you delete and create partitions is the boot up drive choice pulldown- that is where the boot will go.23:52
sssilver_no muelli23:52
sssilver_muelli: I tried another ancient PS/2 mouse, it didn't work either23:52
solocommandActionPa1snip: I'm currently testing with the TCP_NODELAY socket option in the smb config; I could put it in the sysctl conf but if it's not a valid variable for sysctl, I doubt it will do anything :/23:52
sssilver_muelli: my old Compaq mouse23:52
KRomeleoNim on gnome 3.423:52
KRomeleoN3.6 rather23:52
TigerboyWethepeople: be sure to format all the partitions you need at least root / and swap -- good idea to have a separate /home and /tmp23:52
KRomeleoNccannot right click and remove23:52
jgcampbell300question = i have 2 servers im building dell 2950 ... my question is why would i need two network controlers ... just wondering ... i have quite a few ideas what i could do with the second one but i am wondering what the second one was intended for ... any ideas23:52
CyberspaceloaL3top: I have a question. It seems like the common advice is to leave unused space for ubuntu in setting up a dual boot machine23:52
zykotick9sssilver_: to copy from xterm/urxvt term i highlight the text i want to copy, and leaving it highlighted i click my scroll wheel to paste.23:53
muellisssilver_: hm. Can you pastebin "ls /dev/input"?23:53
CyberspaceloaL3top: However, the automated tool that comes with the vanilla distro refuses to detect unused hard drive space23:53
L3topCyberspaceloa: in general no... he already has a windows AND an ubuntu install, and must do the required every X months windows reinstall.23:53
jagginessCyberspaceloa, that's fine, (when doing the partition part of the ubuntu install, you'll have to choose manual-- 2 new partitions-- 1 ext4 for "/" and 1 for swap)23:53
dr_willisCyberspaceloa:  it sees 'unallocated' space last time i tried it.23:53
sssilver_muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257089/23:53
Cyberspaceloadr_willis: does it really? That's interesting23:54
L3topCyberspaceloa: so in his circumstance, he needs to leave his existing install alone. Generally it is easier just to use the whole drive for windows and resize from ubuntu install.23:54
dr_willisCyberspaceloa:  but i tend to manually configure such things for total controll. :) plus i tend to have linux totally on its own hard drive.23:54
muellihm sssilver_. I would have expected "mouse0" to show up. Can you "cat /dev/input/mice", move the mouse and tell us whether you see anything funny in the terminal..?23:54
jagginessCyberspaceloa, please don't invent um.. "vanilla distro". That sounds outright silly what you mean here23:54
Cyberspaceloadr_willis: I'm the same way, myself. That's why I was surprised at the problems some have been having23:54
muellisssilver_: maybe sudo it.23:54
dr_willisCyberspaceloa:  ive resized windows and left half the HD unallocated many a time and the installer would use  the unallocated space. making a swap and a /23:54
sssilver_muelli: maybe tail -f ?23:55
Cyberspaceloajagginess: it generally refers to the default tools and packages installation. I didn't "invent" the term.23:55
muellisssilver_: nah. better cat. It's more raw -.-23:55
dr_willisCyberspaceloa:  part of the issue can be that new windows installs may use 4 primary partions.. and thus  limit any options23:55
jagginessCyberspaceloa, gparted live cd also does a nice job of resizing ntfs non-destructively23:55
L3topdr_willis: how about fresh large capacity drives? I have always probs with them and gparted23:55
muellisssilver_: you can "reset" your terminal if it's messed up afterwards. Let's hope it will be, because that'd be a good sign!23:55
L3topdr_willis: fresh = new never partitioned23:55
sssilver_muelli: nothing23:55
jagginessCyberspaceloa, you did.. there's no such thing as a vanilla distro, but there is a "base system" for every linux that's more or less the same (bash, etc)23:55
sssilver_muelli: blankness, I pushed all the buttons on it too23:56
dr_willisL3top:  Had no real issues with new 3TB i bought the other day. I think gparted insisted i use GPT for it.23:56
muellisssilver_: hm. weird then. Just to double check: You do move the mouse while the "cat" is running, right?23:56
Cyberspaceloajagginess:I'm not speaking of the GNU tools and kernel, obviously23:56
sssilver_muelli: sure23:56
jagginessCyberspaceloa, it's not obvious. What are you talking about then?23:56
jagginess-_-23:56
sssilver_thanks so much for staying with me on this by the way, muelli23:57
L3topgood news dr_willis. Thanks. I am afk for 20 min if wethepeople comes calling23:57
muellisssilver_: Hm. I am running out of ideas then. Your kernel seems to recognize the mouse fine. It seems to me as if the mouse would just not report anything back to your computer. But it's weird, because mice are not too complicated...23:57
jagginessdr_willis, gpt definitely for 3 tb drive23:57
Cyberspaceloadr_willis, L3top: thanks for responding. I haven't dual booted in a long time. If I pitch in here I just want to be informed23:57
sssilver_muelli: it's not even a laser mouse23:57
muellisssilver_: there is one thing though in your dmesg: "i8042: PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp"23:58
dr_willisCyberspaceloa:  best $100 i ever spent was for a 128GB SSD for my Linux side of this dual boot system. ;)23:58
jgcampbell300lol must have been a pretty dumb question ...23:58
muellisssilver_: try to boot with that boot option. Do you know how to do that?23:58
sssilver_muelli: edit grub.conf?23:58
sssilver_muelli: or the ubuntu people use higher level tools?23:58
muellisssilver_: hm. yeah, but doing it during boot is probably simpler and less invading.23:58
zykotick9sssilver_: grub.conf no.  /etc/default/grub maybe?23:58
dr_willissssilver_:  you would add it to the proper line in /etc/default/grub   or test by typing it into the grub menu  for a one time test.23:59
sssilver_zykotick9: where I come from, it'd be /boot/grub/grub.conf :))23:59
zykotick9sssilver_: if you come from grub1 that makes sense.23:59
dr_willisyou do not edit grub.conf directly on ubuntu.23:59
Cyberspaceloajagginess: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95785/what-is-vanilla-ubuntu23:59

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