[00:00] <WeThePeople> io__, newest kernel?
[00:00] <io__> WeThePeople: this is looking worse i can t access even an older kernel now, hold on..
[00:01] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: I have cancelled PlayOnLinux and I want to install wine throw terminal same problem
[00:01] <Hayate> io__, you can fix them through cli mode
[00:01] <io__> newest 3.2.0-31
[00:01] <Hayate> ahmedipa, what th problems?
[00:02] <Hayate> the
[00:02] <gunarm1> whats the best way to set swapspace on /dev/sdj2 and ext4 to /dev/sdj3 if you cant use gparted? (no gui)
[00:02] <overclucker> davidgilmour: php4 is already at end of life, isn't it?
[00:02] <oscar_> Hello, I have problems trying to access my system, I'm using ubuntu 11.04, I only see this massage: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present. -Help please
[00:02] <WeThePeople> io__, can you get to a tty or terminal
[00:02] <io__> o i am ready to roll
[00:02] <davidgilmour> io, looks like a great idea, thanks
[00:02] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:02] <ahmedipa> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:02] <WeThePeople> io__, type sudo do-release-update
[00:03] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: what does that mean
[00:03] <io__> WeThePeople: the command is wrong
[00:03] <Hayate> gunarm1, you can use parted (for advanced) or cfdisk
[00:03] <WeThePeople> io__, im sry its upgrade
[00:03] <davidgilmour> overclucker: yes but I have an application encoded with zend optimizer.. I'm supposed to migrate it and I can't get it to work on PHP 5
[00:04] <io__> ahmedipa: you have more than one instance of updating or installing software running
[00:04] <io__> ahmedipa: close everything ans restart synaptics or whatever yo uare using to install
[00:04] <Hayate> oscar_ i think you were using crypted swap ? Thats right?
[00:05] <io__> WeThePeople: i ve already done an apt-get upgrade before
[00:05] <oscar_> Hayate: crypted home and swap, yes
[00:05] <WeThePeople> ahmedipa, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/e-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable-360554/
[00:06] <gunarm1> Hayate, i tried parted and it basically said "I suck don't use me for this"
[00:06] <Hayate> oscar__ , what are you doing now? Do some upgrades?
[00:07] <Hayate> guarm1, parted was hard .... Thats for advanced user and usage
[00:07] <Hayate> gunarm1, parted was hard .... Thats for advanced user and usage
[00:07] <oscar_> Hayate: the problem occures when the system sudenly off when i was login
[00:08] <witakr> Hey folks
[00:08] <gunarm1> Hayate, what I mean is parted is apparently deprecated and for FS manipulation and suggests using e2fsprogs
[00:08] <witakr> In Xubuntu 12.04: How do i stop my DVD's/CDs from opening in the file manager and do nothing instead?
[00:08] <Hayate> oscar__, maybe you need check disk /  fsck your disk
[00:09] <io__> WeThePeople: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255073/   troubles with video driver i d say
[00:09] <witakr> When I insert the disk that is
[00:09] <io__> let s reinstall nvidia drivers?
[00:09] <gunarm1> whats the command to display a bunch of stats about your wifi card including the dB of the signal of the current connection?
[00:10] <witakr> Or I guess what i mean is how do i keep the cd from opening in file manager once it is mounted.
[00:10] <witakr> ?
[00:10] <Hayate> gunarm1, actually e2fsprogs contain some tool to mkfs and mkswap..you should explore them
[00:10] <WeThePeople> io__, you could try to reinstall xorg server
[00:10] <gunarm1> Hayate, looking into that now thanks
[00:11] <overclucker> oscar_: make sure you're in recovery or on a live cd if you are going to fsck your root partition
[00:11] <StepNjump> Hi, i tried to upgrade to the latest LTS version but unfortunately, the set up didn't complete... It won't log on to X but seems that all my data are still intact.
[00:11] <witakr> No one knows? Okiedoke nevermind
[00:11] <StepNjump> Is there a way I could install Ubuntu on top and above or try to upgrade again?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> StepNjump, Throw the backup on  and try again
[00:12] <io__> nvidia removed, let s restart
[00:12] <Hayate> witakr, you can look at file manager settings,usually under media
[00:12] <oscar_> overclucker: how do i do a fsck from recovery?
[00:12] <io__> yeah! bingo
[00:13] <witakr> Thanks Hayate
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> StepNjump, What release were you upgrading from?
[00:16] <oscar_> Hayate: i already made the fsck
[00:16] <overclucker> oscar_: just to check, it's your encrypted home partition that's giving you trouble, right?
[00:17] <oscar_> overcluker: yes
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> overclucker, Not mentioned but it was a hard shutdown
[00:17] <oscar_> overclucker: yes
[00:18] <xangua> StepNjump: do you have Home in a separate partition¿
[00:19] <witakr> Hayate, FYI: It was under Settings > Settings Manager > Removable Drives and Media - Thanks for the tip. It let me to this place in a round-a-bout way
[00:20] <overclucker> oscar_: what you will have to do is open the encryptd volume with cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXN crypthome, and fsck /dev/mapper/crypthome
[00:21] <overclucker> oscar_: hold on it may have changed since i last did it
[00:23] <StepNjump> wilee-nilee.. I think it was 10.04 or something like that...
[00:23] <StepNjump> xangua no! :(
[00:24] <StepNjump> wilee-nilee no backup as usual!
[00:24] <mkeys> I'm having a problem with a fresh 12.04 alternate 32bit install, system with usb hd plugged in doesn't see it, after system is fully up i can manually replug it and then ubuntu will "see" it. I want to mount this usb hd to /usbhd at boot as to use it for a backup target destination. blkid doesn't see it until replug. uuid is strange all around, blkid and /dev/disk/by-uuid show it as "D6D4E78DD4E76E65 -> ../../sdc1"
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> StepNjump, Hmm no back up and not knowing what the install actually was, "insert snide remark here" ;)
[00:25] <oscar_> overclucker: when i login in a terminal, i can access my archives, the problem is when i use the graphical login. Could it be a configuratión problem? something deleted?
[00:25] <zykotick9> mkeys: see "/msg ubottu fstab"
[00:26] <overclucker> oscar_: running fsck on root is probably the right move, since ubuntu now uses encfs for encrypted hoems
[00:26] <mkeys> zykotick9 : tried fstab by uuid and by /dev/sdc1, both fail. options tried so far "auto,hotplug,defaults 0 0"
[00:26] <StepNjump> Yes I figured....
[00:26] <zykotick9> mkeys: is it ext2/3/4?
[00:26] <mkeys> zykotick9 : mount -a only works after a replug of device
[00:26] <mkeys> zykotick9 : ntfs
[00:27] <oscar_> overclucker: i am using ubuntu 11.04
[00:27] <zykotick9> mkeys: good luck.  i can't/won't help.
[00:27] <mkeys> zykotick9 : may I ask why ntfs limits the support? Just trying to figure out the problem
[00:27] <noob-01> Hello. If I have a server with two nics that connects to a switch. How can I get a node to talk to the server?
[00:29] <StepNjump> xangua, if I had had a separate home partition, would it have been possible to salvage my system that way?
[00:29] <mkeys> zykotick9 : i'm assuming hte strange uuid is associated with ntfs somehow. i've spotted that out on the 'web in my googles.
[00:30] <xangua> StepNjump: well if you had a home partition it would be easier to reinstall since your data and documents are on a separate partition
[00:30] <overclucker> oscar_: i think it's the same. try to fsck the root partition, and if that does not fix it, wiping your home folder may be the best option.
[00:30] <StepNjump> ok.... one of these days!
[00:31] <Led_Zeppelin> hi. just got 12.04. I have 2 monitors and I am using xinerima. But I see 2 seperate tool bars. How can I just have one?
[00:32] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: with xinerama you should see only 1?  what video card are you using "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[00:32] <oscar_> overclucker: all my work is there, i can not delete all
[00:33] <Led_Zeppelin> zykotick9, well, there is 1 desktop alright. it looks great. But I see 2 toolbars on the top. I can move the mouse left to right.
[00:33] <Led_Zeppelin> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[00:33] <Led_Zeppelin> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)
[00:34] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: fyi twin-view is nvidia-propritary version of xinerama (you should probably be using twinview)
[00:34] <Led_Zeppelin> ah
[00:34] <mkeys> zykotick9 : will repartition/reformat the usb hd as ext3 and try again.
[00:34] <rinzler> How do I keep my 12.04 machine from doing ANYTHING with updates. I'm tired of my computer locking me out of dpkg without my permission.
[00:35] <Led_Zeppelin> zykotick9, thanks. it seems twinview is greyed out for me.
[00:35] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I get it reenabled?
[00:35] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: are you sure you are using the nvidia-propritary driver?  or nouveau?
[00:35] <oscar_> overclucker: i can access my folders and archives by using the terminal, so the home is accessible, not blocked.
[00:35] <TJ-> Led_Zeppelin: You can't do twinview across multiple GPUs, only across multiple heads/monitors on a single GPU
[00:35] <Led_Zeppelin> zykotick9, using nvidia prop driver. using nvidia-settings to configure.
[00:36] <Led_Zeppelin> TJ-, ah. I see. I have 2 GPUs
[00:36] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: nvidia-setttings should let you configure it somehow?
[00:36] <TJ-> oscar_: Is the problem that you can't find/unlock the ecryptfs home?
[00:36] <Led_Zeppelin> TJ-, so, i can use Xinerama only right?
[00:37] <overclucker> oscar_: you can backup the whole home folder, there may be damaged config files kepping you from loggin in though
[00:37] <TJ-> Led_Zeppelin: I don't think you can that either - unless you want to forgo 3D acceleration totally. I think the only option is additional X screens - one per GPU
[00:37] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: is this hybrid intel/nvidia?  finding the vga section does "lspci -v" list 2 cards?
[00:37] <Led_Zeppelin> i dont think its a hybrid card.
[00:37] <Led_Zeppelin> i don't care much for 3d acceleration :p
[00:37] <Led_Zeppelin> brb. let me try something
[00:37] <overclucker> TJ-: logging in to X fails for him
[00:37] <oscar_> TJ: no, i can access the home by the terminal
[00:37] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: then i don't understand your 2 GPUs statement, sorry.
[00:38] <Led_Zeppelin> zykotick9, i have 2 GPUs. Each monitor connects to one GPU
[00:38] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: ahh.  then that xinerama is probably your only option - best of luck (i haven't used dual-video cards in years)
[00:39] <TJ-> oscar_: And you want to decrypt the encrypted part?
[00:39] <TJ-> oscar_: Or, has that happened when you logged in?
[00:40] <oscar_> TJ: when i try to login
[00:40] <rinzler> How do I keep the system from doing ANYTHING with updates? I'm tired of being locked out of dpkg without my permission.
[00:41] <seednode> "sudo apt-get remove dpkg" (No, not really)
[00:41] <TJ-> oscar_: User's encrypted homes are stored at "/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs"
[00:41] <jrib> seednode: please don't make those jokes :/
[00:41] <rinzler> seednode: har har :0
[00:42] <TJ-> oscar_: If you're logged into the account and the ecryptfs hasn't been unlocked, you should see the file README.txt in the home directory, that tells you how to unlock the encrypted part
[00:42] <milanandme> I have a problem with internet.  How do I get help with it?
[00:42] <seednode> Ask someone, milanandme
[00:42] <milanandme> Whom should I ask?
[00:42] <oscar_> TJ: this is the massage system say: mountall: Plymouth command failed. mountall: plymouth disconected from disk / dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not ready or present.
[00:42] <seednode> rinzler: Well, I googled something that said to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rinzler, Is you apt-get stock or have you added stuff, here I never get locked out it sounds more like an error that needs finding, user or system.
[00:42] <seednode> Change APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; to 0
[00:43] <TJ-> oscar_: Oh! That's not encrypted home, that's just the swap file mount getting confused :) Sorry, I thought you had serious problems :D
[00:43] <Led_Zeppelin> not a big deal. I have 2 menus
[00:43] <Led_Zeppelin> so far everything looks good!
[00:44] <rinzler> wilee-nilee: stock afaik.
[00:44] <seednode> rinzler, did you pick "automatic updates" when you installed Ubuntu?
[00:44] <TJ-> oscar_: which Ubuntu version are you using? 12.04?
[00:44] <oscar_> TJ: thanks  to say is not a serious problem
[00:45] <rinzler> seednode: I frickin hope not.
[00:45] <oscar_> TJ: 11.04
[00:45] <overclucker> seednode: that's more elegant than removing update-notifier like i've been doing
[00:45] <seednode> overclucker: Thanks, I googled it myself ^^
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> rinzler, Lookin software sources
[00:46] <Led_Zeppelin> what is the best way to select what processes are running for startup? I want a lean system
[00:46] <oscar_> TJ: how can i fix this problem?
[00:46] <TJ-> oscar_: The "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1" has been a long-standing issue that still isn't fully understood. We thought it had been fixed several times. It's caused by some out-of-sequence actions during early boot when lots of things are being done in parallel to speed up boot-times. Something gets done in the wrong order.
[00:47] <seednode> Led_Zeppelin: Clean out your ~/.xinitrc, rc.local, and the like
[00:47] <seednode> And remove unnecessary daemons from rc.conf
[00:47] <zykotick9> Led_Zeppelin: ubuntu currently lacks basic service management...  no joke.
[00:47] <Led_Zeppelin> seednode, ok. is there a gui for ubuntu for that?
[00:47] <Led_Zeppelin> oh man
[00:48] <Led_Zeppelin> god knows what is running :p
[00:48] <seednode> Well, Led_Zeppelin, I can walk you through it, if you'd like.
[00:48] <seednode> I don't know if there's a GUI.
[00:48] <oscar_> TJ: ok, understand, but can i fix this?
[00:48] <dr_willis> Led_Zeppelin:  you mean user programs when they login? or system services?
[00:48] <rinzler> seednode: thanks for the tip. We'll see if that works. :P
[00:48] <zykotick9> seednode: there isn't, a gui for servie management...
[00:48] <Led_Zeppelin> dr_willis, system services.
[00:48] <seednode> Alright, let me know if it works.
[00:48] <Led_Zeppelin> dr_willis, i will start with that.
[00:48]  * mkeys twiddles thumbs waiting on mkfs.ext3 on a 1tb usb
[00:49] <seednode> zykotick9, I don't use Ubuntu, that's why I wasn't sure.
[00:49] <zykotick9> seednode: neither do i
[00:49] <TJ-> Led_Zeppelin: for upstart jobs you can disable them selectively: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[00:49] <seednode> Oh, okay.
[00:49] <dr_willis> Led_Zeppelin:  No idea of any gui/tools - i just learn how upstart works. ;) -->  best guide ive seen --> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[00:50] <dr_willis> Led_Zeppelin:  unless you have a load of services installed, or a very old machine. i doubt if you will notice much improbement by disabling services
[00:50] <rinzler> also, how do I find out what is eating my CPU time and what I can do about them?
[00:50] <seednode> dr_willis: Well, he'll probably decrease boot time.
[00:50] <seednode> rinzler, use htop and look for processes with unusually high resource usage.
[00:50] <zykotick9> rinzler: htop is very handy
[00:51] <dr_willis> Upstart services are supposed to run in parallel and lightdm even can/will be loaded befor most services are totally done. ;)
[00:51] <TJ-> oscar_: I'm not aware of a fix for all causes of the cryptswap1 issues as yet, but you might find something useful by searching the launchpad bug-tracker
[00:52] <TJ-> Led_Zeppelin: for controlling old-style SYS-V init scripts, see "man update-rc.d"
[00:52] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[00:53] <mkeys> zykotick9 : ntfs appears to be the culprit of weird uuid. blkid now shows : /dev/sdc1: LABEL="usbhd" UUID="24a29692-95e3-4077-9f5f-9b661be580e1" TYPE="ext3" . Trying a reboot now.1~
[00:53] <rinzler> what is lightdm?
[00:53] <mkeys> with fstab..
[00:53] <dr_willis> rinzler:  the default login screen/login manager
[00:54] <lobhater> rinzler: it is the gui for the OS
[00:54] <rinzler> dr_willis: seems to be the thing that stands out as for CPU usage...
[00:54] <rinzler> Sadly...
[00:54] <zykotick9> lobhater: the GUI would be called Xorg.  the DM is called lightdm.
[00:54] <lobhater> rinzler: is it a older machine?
[00:54] <dr_willis> rinzler:  that would be weird.. since lightdm is just what gets your name/pass on login, then it starts up X for you.
[00:54] <oscar_> TJ: i found a webpage, but i dont understand what i have to do, can you help me with this?
[00:55] <dr_willis> rinzler:  i would have to wonder how you came to that conclusion, and if you are not missreading the information you are looking at.
[00:55] <lobhater> from the lightdm web page "however it also manages the X servers "
[00:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis: lightdm requires xorg to run ;)
[00:56] <lJ6il> Hello. Big trouble here. A friend of mine has bought an asus eeepc 1225C, which contains an Intel GMA 3600. Can't have any resolution higher than 1024x768... I installed Xubuntu 12.04 32 bits. Launched jockey-gtk. Proposed me cedraview drivers for this card... But can't boot now.
[00:56] <rinzler> lobhater dr_willis: yeah, it is pretty old. I'm kinda trying to bring it back to useful existence, but it's iffy.
[00:56] <lJ6il> i mean i can boot but i'm talking to you through weechat on a tty
[00:56] <TJ-> oscar_: what's the page? As I said, the causes aren't fully understood and are pretty subtle. You could end up messing the system up properly if you're not skilled in system admin and understand the boot process
[00:56] <dr_willis> rinzler:  for low end/old hardware, lubuntu may be a better alternative.
[00:57] <dr_willis> rinzler:  what are the exact specs?
[00:57] <lJ6il> Boot stuck with a message : "could not write bytes : broken pipe"
[00:57] <lobhater> rinzler: yea you might wanna look at some light weight desktop environment.  I bet you can find one you like that allows you to do what you want and not clock you box either
[00:58] <lJ6il> Ít's 3 o clock here and my friend absolutely needs her laptop for tomorrow morning... If anyone has any idea...
[00:58] <rinzler> dr_willis: I'll look into it. Uhm... Dell precision m70 and slow. I haven't cared to find out :P
[00:58] <oscar_> TJ: this is the web page : http://askubuntu.com/questions/56843/could-not-mount-dev-mapper-cryptswap1  . if you see it dificul to do something about, just tell me thanks.
[00:59] <Led_Zeppelin> the new ubunty 12.04 is awesome!
[00:59] <lJ6il> Led_Zeppelin: when it allows you to boot your graphic session.
[01:00] <rinzler> I'll be looking into lubuntu, but for now, I'm out. Thanks for the help!
[01:00] <Led_Zeppelin> heh. yah
[01:00] <lJ6il> No one ?
[01:00] <muelli> lJ6il: hm. I guess you could remove that driver that you may suspect to be the cuplrit, no..?
[01:00] <Led_Zeppelin> i love the eye candy even for my slow ass pc
[01:00] <lobhater> lJ6il:  have you tried uninstalling the drivers and using the default for now
[01:01] <lobhater> lJ6il: or just do a fresh install as a last resort :(
[01:01] <TJ-> oscar_: Don't do what it recommends. The answer is totally wrong. The responder hasn't noticed that the line in fstab is commented out *because* cryptswap1 is being mounted!
[01:01] <muelli> lJ6il: How fatal is that error message anyway? I mean, what do you do to then boot anyway? Can you switch tty? Press escape?
[01:02] <lJ6il> muelli, lobhater sure. I'm removing it.
[01:02] <oscar_> TJ: maybe i have to reinstall all, how can i do a backup from the terminal?
[01:02] <lJ6il> muelli: just can use tty
[01:02] <mkeys> ok, it's formatted ext3 now but it still didn't mount at boot. ubuntu prompted me to "press s to skip" upon boot. once it booted fully booted it still didn't pick it up until i manually replugged it
[01:03] <lJ6il> Rebooting. Coming back. > muelli lobhater
[01:03] <mkeys> at replug it automatically mounted to the proper place
[01:03] <TJ-> oscar_: A reinstall probably won't help. The issue is caused by timing of device discovery/mounting. If you want to do something, comment out the line in "/etc/fstab" that causes "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1" to be mounted.
[01:04] <TJ-> lJ6il - there are several active bug reports. Maybe one of these will offer a solution/workaround? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=cedarview
[01:04] <lobhater> any luck?
[01:04] <seednode> Hey, whoever I was helping with an internet issues, can you message me again? Hexchat crashed.
[01:05] <lJ6il> lobhater, muelli ... Purged the drivers. But can't boot...
[01:05] <muelli> lJ6il: how do you know?
[01:05] <lJ6il> TJ-: thanks, gonna see this
[01:05] <lJ6il> muelli: cause i just did it ?
[01:06] <seednode> But really though, who was I helping?
[01:06] <lobhater> lJ6il: what is the error message it is giving you?
[01:07] <lJ6il> lobhater: no more message. "Checking battery state. [ok]" then nothing
[01:07] <TJ-> seednode: rinzler ... who has left the building
[01:07] <seednode> No, it was someone else. They were having a weird internet issue.
[01:08] <oscar_> TJ: do i have to buy a new pc?
[01:08] <lobhater> lJ6il: are you using lightdm?
[01:08] <lJ6il> lobhater: no... Just using xubuntu out of the box (gdm i think ?)
[01:08] <oscar_> TJ: how can i edit /etc/fstab?
[01:09] <vamp774> sudo <editor> /etc/fstab
[01:09] <vamp774> like sudo emacs /etc/fstab
[01:09] <lobhater> lJ6il: at the tty type sudo service gdm restart
[01:09] <lobhater> what does it say then?
[01:09] <zykotick9> vamp774: only is <editor> = terminal app, else, "gksudo GUI_editor file"
[01:09] <zykotick9> s/is/if/
[01:10] <TJ-> !fstab | oscar_
[01:10] <gunarm1> i tried to clone an ubuntu OS partition to another drive, and when I try to boot off of it it just prints garbled characters after the bios, anything I can do to make this work?  or should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[01:10] <lJ6il> lobhater: unrecognized service
[01:10] <vamp774> no idea what you're saying: edited fstab the other day.  terminal --> sudo emacs /etc/fstab
[01:10] <vamp774> I use emacs
[01:11] <lJ6il> lobhater: coming back (reboot)
[01:11] <Hayate> gunarm1, what are you doing to do that?
[01:13] <lobhater> lJ6il: any luck? if not go to tty          startx           what is the output?
[01:13] <lJ6il> lobhater: now it crashes after "stopping system v compatibility [ok]"...
[01:14] <lJ6il> lobhater: ! Works
[01:14] <lobhater> lJ6il: huh?
[01:14] <lJ6il> lobhater: a bad resolution yet, but back to normal. Thanks.
[01:15] <lobhater> lJ6il: startx worked?
[01:15] <lJ6il> yeah.
[01:15] <lobhater> hmmm strange
[01:15] <lobhater> good luck
[01:15] <gunarm1> Hayate, to clone the OS?  i did gzip -dc image.gz | dd of=/dev/sdj1
[01:15] <lJ6il> thanks...
[01:16] <lobhater> np
[01:16] <gunarm1> after dd if=/dev/sdj1 | gzip > image
[01:16] <gunarm1> the image went onto the partition, i was able to mount it and write to the file system
[01:16] <lJ6il> So anyone ? Can't change the resolution of my GMA 3600. When installing the drivers through jockey-gtk, total crash.
[01:17] <TJ-> gunarm1: And did you also install GRUB to the MBR of the disk, with "grub-install"  ?
[01:17] <gunarm1> TJ-, ah, no do i need to chroot to the filesystem first?
[01:18] <TJ-> gunarm1: Also, is it loading a kernel and initrd of the same architecture as the CPU?
[01:18] <gunarm1> TJ-, same exact hardware
[01:18] <gunarm1> but nothing loading, garbled characters where grub should be
[01:19] <TJ-> gunarm1: I'd guess so - although to get what you described, would suggest there's a boot-strap in the MBR but it's handing over to something that isn't real code in stage 2 or 3, or else when the kernel is supposed to be fetched
[01:19] <gunarm1> TJ-, thats over my head :) so if I boot into a live cd, open the terminal, where/how do I run grub-install?
[01:19] <TJ-> gunarm1: If you hold down/press Shift key as the BIOS POST ends, can you get into a proper GRUB menu?
[01:20] <gunarm1> good question, ill try it, but I doubt it
[01:20] <TJ-> gunarm1: It'll at least let you know how much you've got to fix-up
[01:20] <hackinblack> poop
[01:22] <Domincii> Weird place to ask but I don't suppose any of you guys have a BTN invite I could get?
[01:22] <jrib> !ot | Domincii
[01:22] <gunarm1> TJ-, no shift key grub menu, interestingly after rebooting it no more garbled characters, once it said "check" something, and now it goes bios to a blank screen with a blinking curser
[01:22] <Domincii> ehe, sorry Jrib
[01:23] <TJ-> gunarm1: So, liveISO, chroot mount the installed system, and chroot "grub-install" then
[01:23] <hackinblack> Is there a way to increase GRUB screen time? to say 60 seconds
[01:24] <gunarm1> TJ- ok thanks
[01:24] <K350> howto - in a script - replace sudo's passwordprompt with dialog's '--passwordbox' widget?
[01:27] <TJ-> K350: There's an alternative. Use the NOPASSWD option in the sudoers file, for the command you want to have the script execute
[01:28] <K350> Revo: nja, det där var för zenity. Jag behöver något för 'dialog'
[01:28] <K350> Revo: jag vet hur man gör en passwoordbox i dialog men inte hur jag ersätter sudo's befintliga med dialogs --passwordbox
[01:29] <mih1406> Hi, Any alternative to MASM32 on Ubuntu?
[01:30] <TJ-> K350: use sudo's "-A" option
[01:32] <K350> mih1406: what's MASM32?
[01:32] <TJ-> mih1406: I *think* jwasm is close
[01:32] <K350> TJ-: oh...lets see!
[01:39] <BarkingFish> Morning guys :)  I am currently solidly using KDE - and I'd like to integrate the gnome desktop and all the necessary bits into my system on Kubuntu.  Is there a metapackage to download the whole of the basic gnome stuff in one go please?
[01:40] <chris92> BarkingFish: are you talking about Gnome3?
[01:41] <mih1406> TJ: jwasm has differnet format
[01:41] <BarkingFish> chris92, I'm talking about gnome, whatever type it is currently - I'm on kubuntu, I use KDE, i have gnome programs which don't work properly in kde, so I want to add gnome's DM and the main bits of gnome to my system.
[01:42] <BarkingFish> I have no idea what to get though, or where to start
[01:42] <mih1406> TJ-: I "think"
[01:43] <TJ-> mih1406: yeah, the table does say 'partial' support. I think that's all you're going to get from F/OSS.
[01:44] <chris92> BarkingFish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255172/
[01:44] <TJ-> mih1406: although it does say "JWasm fully supports Masm v6 syntax"
[01:44] <OerHeks> BarkingFish, spt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but then you need to logout & change DM
[01:44] <chris92> OerHeks: that would be unity, right?
[01:44] <BarkingFish> OerHeks, ok, cheers.
[01:44] <ChaozHenchman> okay, I'm new to ubuntu and I don't know how to switch between the windows on it
[01:44] <OerHeks> current gnome3 _ unity yes
[01:44] <ChaozHenchman> what's the key combo for it?
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> BarkingFish, There are some app shared if you have gnome and kde installed but you can't really mix the two together at the same time.
[01:44] <chris92> ChaozHenchman: Alt+Tab probably
[01:44] <BarkingFish> The problem I have is with Kino - it doesn't function from the version I used to have long ago on Mandriva
[01:44] <ChaozHenchman> thankies!
[01:44] <seednode> ChaozHenchman, You can set that up in Compiz with the compizconfig-session-manager; don't know the defaults.
[01:45] <OerHeks> ChaozHenchman, hold win key for quick help short keys
[01:45] <BarkingFish> When I try to edit a video now, it runs about 4* faster than it should, and has no audio, regardless of how I set it
[01:46] <BarkingFish> wilee-nilee, no, but to the best of my knowledge I can have more than one DM installed :)
[01:46] <TJ-> ChaozHenchman: Hold down the Super/Windows key and you'll get a HUD showing lots of common key combinations
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> BarkingFish, sure you can have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu all installed, but they run separately and have apps that will run cross desktops, but it can be a mess for some especially if you want to remove any of them anf their metapackages without some knowledge in doing this.
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> and*
[01:49] <BarkingFish> holy WOW!
[01:49] <BarkingFish> I just went to start the download...   2 packages to remove - 476 to install!!!
[01:49] <OerHeks> awesome
[01:49] <BarkingFish> ah well, better get started
[01:49] <chris92> BarkingFish: yup, thats a full desktop environment with its apps
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> BarkingFish, What I often see are people removing like say the ubuntu-desktop not all the packages and being stuck, because the don't get the package lists from like the psychcats website, or have them saved in a list.
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> psychocats*
[01:50] <mih1406> TJ-: Thanks
[01:50] <BarkingFish> wilee-nilee, I'm happy to do this.  I've tried always to co-exist with whatever comes along, and this will be a new experience for me, encountering unity :)
[01:51] <BarkingFish> I haven't had a gnome desktop for almost 8 years
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> BarkingFish, I suspect you have the skills to figure it all out and if not have some sort of backup. ;)
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> or the will to succeed
[01:53] <BarkingFish> been on linux about 10 years now, wilee-nilee - i have backups of the backups and 8 different USB sticks with full installs on
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> cool sounds like your set, I have all my clones backed up as well and just have a multi load thumb for when needed BarkingFish
[01:54] <willdabeast> I have a question regarding Precise Penguin... For some reason I have been defaulted to the 2D graphics settings and I can't find the option for 3D. The reason I need 3D is so I can use keyboard combos such as alt-tab. Anyone know a fix?
[01:55] <xangua> willdabeast: just clic in the icon next to your username in the login screen
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, 3D does not show in the gear drop down at login, are you short a graphic driver?
[01:55] <BarkingFish> willdabeast, You shouldn't need 3D to use alt-tab.
[01:56] <BarkingFish> It only switches windows to the best of my knowledge
[01:56] <BarkingFish> i don't run 3D anything here, my card barely supports it - and alt-tab works fine.
[01:56] <willdabeast> xangua, barkingfish, and wilee-nilee - I had no idea that option was available there haha. And yea when I go to keyboard settings it won't let me choose alt-tab. Says I need to be in 3D mode.
[01:57] <willdabeast> If there is a way I can just adjust the keyboard settings without being in 3D mode I'd prefer that.
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> heck alt-tab works on the W& I'm on right now lol
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> W7
[01:58] <RawgerNice> wake up you big baby
[01:58] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee - When I go to keyboard settings, all of the bindings are disabled mostly
[01:59] <willdabeast> It actually says I need a new accelerator... and i can't read the rest in the box.
[02:02] <silverarrow> hi
[02:03] <silverarrow> is there a big difference between RTL8187 and RTL8187B ?
[02:03] <silverarrow> it is wifi driverss
[02:03] <hackinblack> HELLO?
[02:03] <silverarrow> hi
[02:04] <silverarrow> I plug in wifi card, it connects but does not work
[02:04] <codeman> hi
[02:05] <silverarrow> apparently system loads RTL1817, but driver listed for my card is RTL8187B
[02:05] <silverarrow> so, do a "B" more or less make a big difference?
[02:05] <malkauns> does Unity keep crashing for anyone else?
[02:05] <silverarrow> I havent heard anything
[02:06] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, how does this connect to your PC? USB or it is an internal card?
[02:06] <silverarrow> it should not
[02:06] <silverarrow> usb
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, Have you modified it?
[02:06] <malkauns> no
[02:06] <silverarrow> hi again Bark
[02:07] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: * sorry
[02:07] <silverarrow> daft situation
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, Descibe the crash in the form of a question.
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> describe*
[02:07] <silverarrow> I have searched on the forum, not much on this usb adaptor
[02:07] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, can you open a terminal and run lsusb for me please, and give me the UDIC for the wifi device?
[02:08] <silverarrow> UDIC?
[02:08] <BarkingFish> the 8 digit code separated by a :
[02:08] <malkauns> wilee-nilee, well it crashes in that all window borders disappear and i cannot get any focus on any windows, only way to restart it is to switch to terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 and start unity again
[02:09] <BarkingFish> Universal Device Identification Code
[02:09] <silverarrow> BUS 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, And you have not installed the compizconfig settings manager and modified anything
[02:10] <malkauns> wilee-nilee, yes i have installed ccsm
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, Have you changed anything there?
[02:10] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, right - I can tell you now, with no uncertainty, that you have the wrong driver running.
[02:10] <malkauns> well i added effects like trail focus and minimize animations ect
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> made the cube say
[02:11] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: the question might be: to "B" or not to "B"
[02:11] <BarkingFish> I have one of those sticks here, and the only way I am able to get it to run is using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers from the disk
[02:11] <silverarrow> nasty
[02:11] <silverarrow> that is a bug!!
[02:11] <BarkingFish> nope
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, For a quick restart of unity which is a plugin in compiz install the fusion icon and make a launcher for it that will reload compiz.
[02:12] <BarkingFish> it's actually very good - both my wifi sticks use ndiswrapper.
[02:12] <BarkingFish> One doesn't have any normal support at all, the other one has a driver which doesn't function :)
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> restart of compiz actually
[02:12] <malkauns> wilee-nilee, yea but i would rather it not crash in the first place
[02:12] <BarkingFish> if it wasn't for either of those, I wouldn't be on the net right now - and both are on ndiswrapper
[02:12] <malkauns> so noone else has this problem?
[02:13] <silverarrow> is there a way to load ndis wrapper from live CD or get the package on a usb?
[02:13] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, are you running the live CD now?
[02:13] <silverarrow> why is the RTL driver acting up then?
[02:13] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: just installed
[02:14] <zykotick9> malkauns: you probably shouldn't consider "compiz" to be enterprise-grade stability...  best of luck.
[02:14] <silverarrow> and rebooted
[02:14] <BarkingFish> no idea, silverarrow - I have not bothered to bury myself in it and find out - I haven't the time at the moment.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> malkauns, That would be nice, there are 100's of websites on modifying compiz, any worth using suggest a restart button, and a carefully modifying compiz usually with specific instructions.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> you don't want to cough go wilee-nilee with compiz ;)
[02:14] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: thanks anyhow, I suppose that kind of burrying you ohnly do when you are forced to
[02:15] <hackinblack> burrying
[02:15] <silverarrow> !"#¤%&
[02:15] <zykotick9> malkauns: i'm certain LOTS of people have unity crashing issues - even if no one is replying to you...
[02:15] <TJ-> silverarrow: BarkingFish "rtl8187" is the correct driver for the RTL8187B, since at least 2.6.23
[02:15] <BarkingFish> silverarrow, I'm working as an operational paramedic at the moment, I don't get much time to sit and do a lot - only between the hours of 10pm and 6am which is when I operate.
[02:16] <BarkingFish> TJ-, that may be so - but it doesn't work on some devices which have that chipset
[02:16] <hackinblack> Anyone here by change seen "The Walking Dead" on tv series?
[02:16] <BarkingFish> and 0bda:8187 i'm afraid is one of them
[02:16] <magn3ts> Hi can anyone tell me why Ubuntu keeps seeing my 3TB drives as 4.1GB?
[02:16] <xangua> !ot | hackinblack
[02:16] <BarkingFish> I have it in a wifi stick branded by Texet
[02:16] <silverarrow> TJ card detects, lights green, connects to network with password, but there is not real web connection, it works fine on a windows computer right beside
[02:17] <hackinblack> !ot
[02:17] <TJ-> silverarrow: does this look to describe it? bug #995467
[02:17] <hackinblack> !ot | xangua
[02:17] <xangua> hackinblack: please stop that
[02:17] <hackinblack> You please stop that
[02:18] <silverarrow> non exisiting bug?
[02:18] <silverarrow> are you having me on, or did the page come out wrong ?
[02:18] <TJ-> Why? did you not get the bug description?
[02:19] <h00k> hackinblack: please mind the topic of the channel, and you can talk about not-supported-related subjects in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <silverarrow> no,
[02:19] <TJ-> silverarrow: try the link ubottu gave again
[02:19] <twitchie> !botsnack
[02:19] <hackinblack> ^^^^
[02:20] <silverarrow> launchpad link ubottu suggested opens fine though
[02:20] <TJ-> silverarrow: that's the only one there is!
[02:21] <silverarrow> hmm
[02:21] <silverarrow> yes, slow internet
[02:21] <silverarrow> sloooooooooooooooow
[02:21] <silverarrow> or no real connection
[02:22] <alessio> damn.. IRC is still alive.. :D
[02:22] <silverarrow> not sure how to generate a log report on a usb wireless
[02:22] <magn3ts> Hi can anyone tell me why Ubuntu keeps seeing my 3TB drives as 4.1GB?
[02:22] <silverarrow> you can't  lunch in from terminal like a regular app
[02:22] <silverarrow> ?
[02:22] <twitchie> !enter | silverarrow
[02:22] <hackinblack> Magn3ts is that a bad thing?
[02:22] <BarkingFish> magn3ts, have you got anything stored on them yet?
[02:23] <TJ-> silverarrow: It's very worth trying the latest mainline kernel, 3.6, from the Ubuntu kernel team. If that solves the issue, you have a working system and we know where to find a patch to backport
[02:24] <silverarrow> from quantal?
[02:24] <TJ-> silverarrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds ... I'm currently using the 3.6 kernel from the "v3.6-quantal/" directory of the PPA
[02:25] <silverarrow> i can say I have the same issue in both 12.04 and 12.10 beta
[02:26] <twitchie> magn3ts: are you running a 64 bit version of ubuntu? what filesystem did you format the drives as?
[02:26] <silverarrow> well, think lubuntu daily ppc  have the latest kernel ? the issue is however the same in 386 and ppc
[02:27] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: you are probably all correct on the wrapper thing
[02:28] <TJ-> silverarrow: The quantal standard kernel is 3.5, not 3.6
[02:28] <silverarrow> I see
[02:28] <silverarrow> thanks
[02:28] <silverarrow> not sure how to get the 3.6 kernel safely though,
[02:29] <silverarrow> do they launch new kernels on updates? or not until 13.04?
[02:29] <BarkingFish> the last kernel I got was 3.2.0-32
[02:30] <silverarrow> a horror with dependencies and compatibilities ?
[02:30] <hackinblack> :P
[02:30] <TJ-> silverarrow: If you read the Kernel Team wiki I posted, it gives you detailed instructions on how which files to download, and how to install them using dpkg
[02:30] <silverarrow> BarkingFish: in the LTS release ?
[02:30] <BarkingFish> yeah, 12.04 - i got it on update yesterday
[02:31] <BarkingFish> i have proposed and unsupported updates enabled though
[02:31] <silverarrow> yeah, thanks TJ
[02:31] <silverarrow> I might try it, when I get wired or wireless
[02:31] <BarkingFish> and I have got to restart, back in a tick. Just added the ubuntu desktop and unity :)
[02:31] <BarkingFish> back in a bit
[02:31] <hackinblack> !ot | barkingfish
[02:31] <silverarrow> that should be treated as a bug though
[02:32] <silverarrow> i have had it all 12.04
[02:32] <IdleOne> hackinblack: Give it a rest please.
[02:32] <hackinblack> Give what a rest?
[02:32] <silverarrow> i  just put in a different wireless and didn't think more of it
[02:33] <IdleOne> hackinblack: The random commentary and emoticons, calling out people with !ot when you are the one being !ot...
[02:33] <hackinblack> What are you talking about? i just joined
[02:33] <hackinblack> And random the guy was off topic
[02:34] <IdleOne> hackinblack: You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic and be as funny as you want to be
[02:34] <hackinblack> Who is trying to be funny?
[02:34] <hackinblack> What the heck are you talking about
[02:36] <IdleOne> hackinblack: I am talking about you disrupting the channel. Please just stick to support. Questions about  "The Walking Dead" are not on topic for this channel.
[02:36] <hackinblack> Dude that was like 30 minutes ago
[02:36] <hackinblack> Get over it, the other guy already told me
[02:36] <malkauns> zykotick9, what makes you certain about unity crashes? have you seen many reports online?
[02:38] <IdleOne> hackinblack: get over it is one of my "anger" triggers but I am working on not banning people who tell me to get over it. Please follow the channel guidelines (/msg ubottu !guidelines) if you are not familiar with them.
[02:38] <IdleOne> thank you.
[02:38] <silverarrow> why get huffy, this is slow for this channel
[02:38] <silverarrow> ?
[02:38] <hackinblack> Now you threatn me with a ban? Go ahead and see me back here in 1 minute or less.
[02:39] <h00k> let's move on, please.
[02:39] <h00k> Seriously.
[02:39] <IdleOne> hackinblack: I am asking you to follow the channel guidelines just like everybody else.
[02:39] <hackinblack> For the second time. "GET OVER IT" that was 30 minutes ago and the other guy told me it
[02:40] <silverarrow> what difference will a newer kernel make?
[02:41] <IdleOne> security updates, new device support, better performance...
[02:41] <silverarrow> ...I am not than technically into it yet
[02:42] <silverarrow> I see
[02:42] <IdleOne> but I suggest you stick with the kernel provided in the repositories unless you absolutely need to use a newer kernel.
[02:42] <silverarrow> yeah, maybe better to buy a different wireless device
[02:43] <zykotick9> IdleOne: +1 re kernels.  backports if update required.
[02:45] <silverarrow> kernelupdates does happen thogh
[02:45] <silverarrow> can it be reversed ?
[02:46] <h00k> silverarrow: you can boot from an older kernel if you have it installed, yeah
[02:47] <lobhater1> any one have any experience with myth tv with an ubuntu backend?
[02:47] <BarkingFish> Morning guys :)
[02:48] <zykotick9> !anyone | lobhater1
[02:48] <hackin> Yawn, any one here have irssi? and or know a better irc client
[02:48] <lobhater1> is myth tv worth the trouble of setting up?
[02:48] <BarkingFish> Right. I have ubuntu desktop fully installed - with one minor problem. I cannot find settings to customize the desktop - so I can't move the panel at the top, to the bottom, and can't resize all the icons on my desktop. Any ideas please?
[02:48] <zykotick9> lobhater1: that's not a "support" question and thus offtopic here.
[02:49] <shantorn> hackin, what are you looking for in a client?
[02:49] <hackin> Idk i want something like irssi terminal based
[02:49] <shantorn> have you looked at weechat?
[02:49] <lobhater1> i am having trouble setting up myth tv. how long has it taken you to set up?
[02:49] <hackin> no i havnt
[02:50] <zykotick9> lobhater1: fyi, i use mythtv to record all my TV OTA-HD
[02:50] <shantorn> what i like about it over irssi is it has a nick list
[02:50] <hackin> Is weechat good? do you use it ?
[02:50] <shantorn> still scriptable
[02:50] <zykotick9> lobhater1: myth isn't "easy" to get running!
[02:50] <shantorn> i just found it yesterday and havent set it up yet
[02:50] <hackin> I will give weechat a try
[02:51] <shantorn> www.weechat.org
[02:51] <hackin> ok thanks
[02:53] <BarkingFish> can someone help me with my little issue above please? I only need to do a couple of small things, and this experience will be perfect.
[02:53] <mihaisergiy> cf
[02:53] <BarkingFish> I am liking the layout of the dm (and I assume this is unity), and I think I may just switch permanently from kdm :D
[02:53] <TJ-> BarkingFish: Unity does not allow the top menu/notifications bar be moved
[02:53] <lobhater1> BarkingFish:  you cant adjust any of those settings from the default menus
[02:54] <BarkingFish> So what do I do about the icons on the desktop.  There are too many of them and they're not laid out properly. If I can shrink them, they'll all fit
[02:54] <lobhater1> BarkingFish: if you are BarkingFish:willing to put in the time and effort compiz will allow you to do just about anything
[02:54] <zykotick9> !info myunity | BarkingFish unity doesn't have a ton of customization like kde does
[02:55] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: be aware that CCSM can break Unity
[02:55] <lobhater1> BarkingFish: it is not the most stable, so beware and backup, but you can do things you never even imagined!  pretty cool.  watch youtube for some examples
[02:56] <lobhater1> ccsm = compiz
[02:56] <hackin> How do you backup ubuntu  like in windows? How do you make a full backup of ubuntu os? incase you need to reinstall?
[02:56] <zykotick9> lobhater1: actually ccsm = compizconfigsettingmanager or something ;)
[02:56] <BarkingFish> i don't want compiz running.  I want the whole of it in 2D. If I can't run it in 2D, with no transparency and animation, it's coming off, quicksharp :)
[02:57] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: be aware that 12.04 is the last unity2d
[02:57] <BarkingFish> by the time the next one comes out, I'll have a new pc capable of supporting 3d without struggling.
[02:58] <BarkingFish> Until then, it needs to be dropped down to 2d, flat, opaque and no flashy stuff :)
[02:58] <BarkingFish> i still like it though :)
[02:58] <lobhater1> zykotick9: ccsm = CompizConfig Settings Manager    which is compiz.   is ccsm not a synonym for compiz?
[02:58] <zykotick9> lobhater1: unity is compiz, but unity != compiz, just as ccsm != compiz
[02:59] <hackinblack> Can anyone help with backing up ubuntu?
[02:59] <zykotick9> !ccsm > lobhater1
[03:00] <hackinblack> Can anyone help with backing up ubuntu?
[03:01] <lobhater1> no PMs please
[03:01] <awc737> hi, How can I edit my grub load parameters, if nothing even boots? just black screen
[03:01] <zykotick9> lobhater1: i didn't PM you, i sent you a factoid.  best of luck.
[03:01] <awc737> although, I can load a live usb with pci=noacpi
[03:01] <shantorn> hackinblack, what backup tools have you tried?
[03:02] <hackinblack> None yet, i just need to know of a main method or reliable method of backing up ubuntu just like in windows.
[03:02] <lobhater1> great thanks, not sure what i would of done without your "pm factoid"
[03:02] <TJ-> awc737: get into the GRUB menu at start-up by holding/pressing Shift as soon as BIOS POST ends. In the GRUB menu, you can edit the entries including the kernel's command-line, and boot the revised cmd-line using Ctrl+X
[03:03] <lobhater1> hackinblack: at version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:03] <lobhater1> *what
[03:03] <shantorn> well i use a program called crashplan, it can backup to the cloud, for a fee, or backup to a local drive for free or backup to another pc on your netowrk or over the internet for free, its very easy to use
[03:03] <hackinblack> LTS
[03:03] <hackinblack> I am using the latest i believe 12.04
[03:03] <hackinblack> crashplan?
[03:04] <hackinblack> Do yu have any links for this?
[03:04] <h00k> hackinblack: there's the built in 'backup' application deja-dup
[03:04] <h00k> !backup | hackinblack
[03:04] <lobhater1> hackinblack: have you considered using the built in back up feature?
[03:04] <awc737> ahhhh TJ thanks! life saver
[03:04] <lobhater1> h00k: hooked you up, with a factoid.  nice
[03:04] <hackinblack> I noticed that but wasnt sure it worked as "deja-dub" I don't even know what that means english?
[03:05] <hackinblack> I will look at crashplan
[03:05] <hackinblack> and link ubottu gave
[03:05] <awc737> TJ-: hitting e to change the params on boot store that permanently?
[03:05] <TJ-> hackinblack: Deja Dup: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/deja-dup/
[03:05] <perhapstired> how can i find a folder in ubuntu?
[03:05] <lobhater1> hackinblack: yea just go to the dash menu (super key) and type backup. click the little black safe and follow the directions
[03:05] <shantorn> http://www.crashplan.com/ i sue that to back up all my nix and win machines ot my main pc that has a 300gb storage drive
[03:05] <perhapstired> what does /.foldername mean? and how can i find it?
[03:05] <shantorn> sue=use
[03:06] <TJ-> awc737: No. You're only changing the params used right now. But once you can get into the booted system you can edit /etc/default/grub and then do "update-grub"
[03:06] <nith1210> perhapstired: any folder prefixed with a "." is hidden
[03:06] <awc737> sweet
[03:06] <perhapstired> ok so how do i uncover it
[03:06] <nith1210> perhapstired: using the file browser, use "CTRL+H" to toggle seeing them
[03:06] <zykotick9> awc737: e on grub use /etc/default/grub to make permanent
[03:06] <hackinblack> Also is there a tool or application that i can edit the grub i bootloader screen with custom color or theme?
[03:06] <perhapstired> ok thanks
[03:06] <hackinblack> And make it last longer like 60seconds to stay on screen
[03:06] <nith1210> perhapstired: or, "View-->Show Hidden Files"
[03:06] <nith1210> np
[03:07] <awc737> thanks. does pci=noacpi sound good? I think the problem is uefi bios
[03:07] <decci_> Here is my dhcpd.conf entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255230/
[03:07] <awc737> surely I don't always need acpi disabled for this?
[03:07] <TJ-> perhapstired: A file or directory-name with a leading "." is considered by many tools to be 'hidden' unless overriding options are given to them. E.g. "ls -a"
[03:07] <decci_> I am unable to get the dhcpd service running..it is failing
[03:08] <TJ-> hackinblack: I used one background image from boot menu to desktop. I had to install it to GRUB, to a new plymouth theme, to lightdm and to the user background
[03:09] <hackinblack> How ?
[03:09] <hackinblack> TJ
[03:09] <awc737> is it bad if I always have noacpi on a laptop with ssd?
[03:10] <TJ-> awc737: You shouldn't permanently disable ACPI, it is a core part of the system. There are other options probably more suited and limited in scope, that will help you. Can you describe the issue, or have log-file entries showing the problem?
[03:10] <TJ-> hackinblack: Lots of reading, lots of hard work
[03:10] <awc737> TJ- no, just a new ultrabook with uefi bios, booting black screen. google indicated pci=noacpi, and it did work
[03:10] <hackinblack> I have seen on google people with custom themes or backgrounds bt i do not know how to do it with grub
[03:11] <awc737> is there another "safer" param I could try TJ-?
[03:11] <TJ-> awc737: Depending on the problem, there are many options you can try. Here's the list: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[03:11] <TJ-> awc737: It would help to know what is specifically going wrong
[03:12] <awc737> I was trying these params: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[03:12] <awc737> TJ-: i just said, it booted to a black screen, that's all I know, and pci=noacpi fixed it
[03:12] <awc737> is pci=noacpi as bad as acpi=off
[03:12] <TJ-> awc737: black screen ... but was the system frozen? or could you still ping it over the network, or SSH into it?
[03:13] <ezio> anyone know how to simply negate a -z test in a script?
[03:13] <TJ-> awc737: many times, 'black screen' is just a symptom of a bad video driver and can be overcome with the "nomodeset" kernel parameter
[03:13] <awc737> not sure TJ-, yeah I think it might be video related
[03:13] <TJ-> ezio:  ! -z "$VAR"
[03:13] <awc737> well, intel hd3000 probably wouldn't be an abnormal driver?
[03:14] <TJ-> awc737: Try "nomodeset" then - that often fixes the kernel mode-setting issues
[03:14] <TJ-> awc737: there's quite a lot of KMS issues still across a range of video hardware
[03:14] <TJ-> awc737: If that doesn't help, at least you've ruled out one of the easier solutions :)
[03:16] <|Anthony|> I would appreciate a review of the help page i extensively updated please. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[03:16] <|Anthony|> Review as in fact checking and whatnot. :)
[03:17] <TJ-> |Anthony|: That looks promising, thank-you. I'll try it out on one of my servers tomorrow
[03:18]  * mihaisergiy huff
[03:18] <|Anthony|> TJ-, you have hardware sufficient for multiseat?
[03:19] <TJ-> |Anthony|: too much of it!
[03:19] <|Anthony|> haha
[03:19] <TJ-> Fancy a garage-sale? :p
[03:19] <[x]> |Anthony|-> what is multiseat ?
[03:19] <TJ-> I also do the opposite to multi-seat, or used to ... xdmx.
[03:20] <|Anthony|> [x], lol the Multiseat Introduction kinda explains that
[03:20] <|Anthony|> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX#Introduction_To_Multiseat
[03:21] <TJ-> |Anthony|: It'd be good to have a PPA to wrap up Brian Cameron's work, and add in some installation scripts to automate the configuration as much as possible
[03:22] <|Anthony|> TJ-, i was thinking about starting a ppa for that... or pestering the person (a7) who has an existing, but outdated ppa to do it
[03:23] <TJ-> |Anthony|: I wonder, is there a "multiseat" project on launchpad?
[03:24] <|Anthony|> I linked to the ck and gdm branches
[03:24] <|Anthony|> but i didn't suss out any others there
[03:24] <TJ-> |Anthony|: Ahhh, there is, not touched since 2006
[03:24] <BlackWeb> Just curious does anyone here have a knowledge of Server RackMount Chassis
[03:25] <cjs> I'd like to have an icon appear in my notification area when updates become available, but never have update-manager or other crap pop up automatically, disrupting what I'm doing. Is there any way to do this in 12.04?
[03:25] <TJ-> BlackWeb: You mean 19" rackmounts?
[03:25] <cjs> BlackWeb: I do.
[03:25] <cjs> BlackWeb: Just PM me or let me know what channel you'd like to discuss that on.
[03:26] <TJ-> |Anthony|: It would be worth taking over that multiseat project
[03:26] <BlackWeb> Ya TJ Alright I have a cabinet that needs a Chassis and the main concern is the Width. Currently my Chassis are 4U 7" in Height  but Width is where I'm not quite sure, If i measure from the front its 19" but Actual body is 17"
[03:26] <|Anthony|> TJ-, the problem on my end atm is that i don't have additional hardware to test it on :/
[03:27] <TJ-> BlackWeb: That sounds about right ... there are usually brackets or sliders on the side of each unit
[03:27] <BlackWeb> so is the width calculated with the brackets or just the body, trying to find a chassis that will fit into my cabinet
[03:27] <superjoe> I'm upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 - can someone double check my grub config here and make sure I'm not going to make my system unbootable?
[03:27] <TJ-> |Anthony|: one step at a time. I'm sure if done right, it would attract the more professional users
[03:27] <superjoe> http://pastie.org/4894572
[03:27] <trism> cjs: gsettings set com.ubuntu.update-notifier auto-launch false
[03:28] <|Anthony|> TJ-, the hw i'm using for the multiseat is kinda all i have and i've been working on getting it all up and running for a few weeks now while documenting my efforts along the way.
[03:29] <routh_> Hey. I'm running Ubuntu server 10.04 for my webhost. I installed ircd-hybrid today and I have it up and running. I can connect to it from localhost but not from outside the server. I have been troubleshooting all day and confirmed to the best of my ability that the problem does not concern ircd-hybrid itself. A nmap port scan of my server shows that the ports from 6666-6669 are open but filtered. However to the best of my knowled
[03:29] <routh_> ge, there is no firewall on my server right now. I removed iptables, fail2ban for testing and ufw was never installed. Is there someway to find out what the hell is filtering these ports??
[03:30] <TJ-> BlackWeb: The measurement between the fixing holes in the verticals inside my 42U cabinet is 18.25"
[03:30] <cjs> trism: Thanks!
[03:30] <|Anthony|> TJ-, i do agree though, that to have it be point-n-clicky would make it more attractive. especially considering fedora has it that way now. the downside to their approach (systemd-logind) is that there is no support for the nvidia binary. which kinda cuts out a large market who have nvidia and want opengl and hw acceleration.
[03:31] <[x]> ok |
[03:31] <TJ-> |Anthony|: yes, covering the common hardware and drivers is important. It's worth contacting the registry to see if we can take over the multiseat project
[03:31] <[x]> ok |Anthony|
[03:31] <|Anthony|> routh_, do you have a network firewall?
[03:32] <routh_> Well, this is a cloud host. All ports to my server are open and I have to control access myself.
[03:32] <TJ-> BlackWeb: That 18.25" is from centers of the holes in each vertical. Total width to edge of frame is a tad over 19"
[03:32] <[x]> |Anthony|-> tell me some good irc channels pls
[03:32] <routh_> To the best of my knowledge this has to be a setup problem with the server itself.. I just am out of ideas of how to figure out what it is.
[03:33] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll do a re measurement of mine but ya total width From Edge to frame is 19"
[03:33] <TJ-> routh_: Some facilities may filter IRC ports, since they are used by command-and-control servers for malware
[03:33] <BlackWeb> on mine
[03:33] <awc737> damn. TJ- I had ubu before, now I have xubu. the shift on boot isn't working
[03:33] <awc737> it does say Grub loading, but then I see the xubuntu loading image, and then black
[03:33] <TJ-> BlackWeb: Yes, that's correct. 19.05" (ish) internally and 18.25" between fixing centers
[03:33] <routh_> TJ-: I'm guessing there's no easy way to tell that without asking.
[03:34] <routh_> TJ-: Wait.. I'm a dumbass. I can just change the ports.
[03:34] <TJ-> routh_: I'd think so, unless you search the web for mentions of it with your host?
[03:34] <|Anthony|> routh_, you could try to change the default ports
[03:34] <TJ-> routh_: Of course... you could even use the offical IRC port!
[03:34] <routh_> isn't that 6667?
[03:34] <|Anthony|> or 8001
[03:35] <|Anthony|> something like that
[03:35] <[x]> who know boss linux distro ?
[03:35] <TJ-> routh_: No, 194.
[03:35] <TJ-> routh_: 6667 was chosen in the early days by non-privileged users wanting to run IRC daemons on their shell accounts. I used to do that back in about '93  :p
[03:35] <awc737> no it worked TJ-, but I get unknown command 'nomodeset'
[03:36] <routh_> interesting
[03:36] <TJ-> awc737: that's weird! which version of Ubuntu is that?
[03:36] <awc737> TJ- xubuntu, I think I'm typing it in the wrong place
[03:37] <^GeCk0^> gooood morning :) im looking for an audio recording tool, that records my pulse-audio-server to fetch the stream of any running application
[03:37] <shantorn> could someone please help me troubleshoot these errors on update, paste.ubuntu.com/1255254
[03:37] <TJ-> awc737: Well, it *should* be on the linux command-line. From GRUB menu, press 'e' to edit, then move the cursor to the end of the line that starts "linux..." (avoid the 'initrd' line) and add "nomodeset" to the existing options (which are something like quiet splash vt_handoff=..."
[03:38] <shantorn> it got to the last 26 mb of 398 and gave me those errors
[03:39] <onats> hi guys, how do i make a user be able to execute commands without requiring passwords for sudo
[03:39] <trism> shantorn: have you run: sudo apt-get update; the libxml2 package has be superceded (I didn't check the rest but I imagine it is the same)
[03:39] <awc737> ok TJ- I didn't get the error message, but still a black screen... back to pci=noacpi
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> onats, not a good idea we can't really advise there.
[03:39] <shantorn> ill give that a whirl, thanks for the tip
[03:40] <cjs> onats: Edit the sudoers file. I think they've taken out the example of the NOPASSWD configuration or whatever it was, but the sudoers manual page will have the details.
[03:40] <TJ-> shantorn: Those package versions are no longer in the archive as far as I can see. Do "sudo apt-get update" and then try again
[03:40] <onats> cjs: i put it there but it still asks for pword
[03:40] <onats> and im connecting with no tty
[03:40] <onats> how do i disable require tty? i saw it in some posts, but i can't seem to find that line in sudo lilst
[03:41] <TJ-> onats: you also have to add the user to the "nopasswdlogin" group
[03:41] <onats> TJ-: there's a group like that?
[03:42] <TJ-> onats: If you want it for *all* log-ins the user does. If you want it only for particular sudo commands, then only use the sudoers file, with an entry for the user (or her group or an alias)
[03:42] <onats> I'm actually getting this: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[03:42] <awc737> TJ-: should my params go next to initrd or linux
[03:42] <awc737> linux has quiet splash etc
[03:42] <TJ-> awc737: linux, always
[03:43] <awc737> maybe no wonder
[03:43] <TJ-> awc737: :p
[03:43] <TJ-> awc737: I find that GRUB editor doesn't always make it obvious that "linux..." and "initrd..." are separate lines
[03:43] <awc737> yeah it ran together
[03:44] <awc737> sweet, nomodeset, i see screen
[03:44] <cjs> onats: Oh, that's different. Is there some reason you've no pty?
[03:44] <TJ-> |Anthony|: do you have a launchpad ID? I was thinking of emailing the registry team to ask them to give us control of multiseat
[03:44] <onats> cjs: I'm connecting via a job via jenkins, to a test server (VM)
[03:45] <shaneo> hi guys I have my laptop hooked to an external monitor...the display is set to the external only...i use external speakers also but now my audio card says dummy and i have no sound any suggestions?
[03:45] <TJ-> awc737: that fixed it?!?
[03:45] <cjs> onats: I see. You might try requiretty=false.
[03:45] <awc737> yeah nomodeset. but I have low resolution
[03:45] <awc737> i can't permanently leave nomodeset right
[03:45] <awc737> i should be able to ... detect my gpu or something?
[03:46] <TJ-> awc737: Yes, you can. That is used at early boot to do splash screen graphical
[03:46] <onats> cjs:  so i just add that line in visudo?
[03:46] <shaneo> *dummy output
[03:46] <cjs> onats: Yeah. Lemmie check the exact syntax.
[03:46] <TJ-> awc737: now you need to focus on what the GPU is, which driver it should use, and get it configured so it auto-detect the resolution of the screens using EDID
[03:47] <awc737> ok, its just intel 3000, the most common one in the world prob lol
[03:47] <TJ-> awc737: You can add "nomodeset" to "/etc/default/grub" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[03:47] <malkauns> how can i expand my desktop to a 2nd display and set the desktop orientation at the same time through commandline
[03:47] <TJ-> awc737: and then do "sudo update-grub" to write it to "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[03:47] <awc737> but shouldnt i try to fix the gpu instead
[03:48] <cjs> onats: It needs to go in a Defaults line. I'm not sure of the details without knowing your exact config.
[03:48] <|Anthony|> shaneo, check in /var/log/syslog for pulse messages
[03:48] <TJ-> awc737: Don't worry about the GPU at early boot... that's only frippary. Sort the GPU driver out for X
[03:48] <shaneo> ok
[03:49] <|Anthony|> shaneo, you could do at terminal cat /var/log/syslog | grep pulse > ~/Documents/pulselog to make it easier on yourself
[03:49] <onats> cjs:  found it: Defaults:git !requiretty
[03:49] <routh_> That worked gentlemen, thank you.
[03:50] <cjs> onats: Great!
[03:50] <onats> cjs:  thanks for the tips
[03:51] <melow01> Ubuntu 12.04: somehow I borked my network config. No WiFi or Ethernet but it was working earlier today.
[03:51] <melow01> I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces
[03:52] <shaneo> |Anthony| all that did was create a blank document
[03:52] <|Anthony|> lol
[03:52] <zykotick9> melow01: fyi setting stuff in /etc/network/interfaces disables Network-Manager (the default network thing on ubuntu)
[03:52] <melow01> zykotick9,
[03:52] <melow01> zykotick9, oh... ok
[03:53] <melow01> zykotick9, so i should erase all the changes i made?
[03:53] <zykotick9> melow01: up to you.
[03:53] <shaneo> |Anthony| used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634 and the sound card is back thanks for your help
[03:54] <onats> cjs: it works now. that was what was needed
[03:54] <onats> defaults no tty
[03:54] <jagginess> melow01, interfaces is for ifdownup scripts. You don't look at that. You want to look at nm<> commands like nmcli
[03:54] <awc737> is this just me? W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:3128:
[03:54] <melow01> jagginess, ok, thanks
[03:55] <melow01> I'll tinker with that and see where it gets me
[03:55] <Christop1erNg> does anyone know of any good video editing software for ubuntu?
[03:55] <Christop1erNg> i mean something decent please
[03:55] <Christop1erNg> not some garbage
[03:56] <jagginess> melow01, nm-tool (there's a third on nm<tab><tab>)
[03:56] <awc737> TJ-: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[03:57] <Domincii> How do I get better at using Ubuntu? I'm a complete noob currently and I understand that I could by all means just come here with every little problem I run into from now on but I figure I'd save you guys some time by researching it myself, could any of you recommend some places I could start?
[03:57] <awc737> there are nice books, and youtube series
[03:57] <jagginess> Domincii, not really.. well there is books.. but they get outdated by each release..
[03:58] <Cyberspaceloa> a lot of the terminal skills in books translate between releases
[03:58] <zykotick9> awc737: "Failed to fecth ... 127.0.0.1:3138" are you using apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng?
[03:58] <awc737> there was like 10 books last time i went to barnes and noble
[03:58] <jagginess> Domincii, the best thing you can do as a start, and know how to spot bugs and report them with launchpad
[03:58] <Cyberspaceloa> Domincii, I'd basically just browse the forums a lot
[03:58] <Domincii> Could you link me to one of the youtube series' please?
[03:58] <Domincii> I figured that would be the case, Jagginess, but I just don't understand how people seem to be so fluent with this system
[03:58] <jagginess> (or that ubuntu bug report app)
[03:59] <Cyberspaceloa> experiment with installing different things like samba
[03:59] <jordanm> Jordan_U: and you get me highlighted with !ops!
[03:59] <awc737> zykotick9: neither that I know of...
[03:59] <jagginess> Domincii, just use the system.. and with time you learn tips and bits
[03:59] <Domincii> Right, I'll take a look in the next book store I go to, could I get some forum recommendations though?
[03:59] <zykotick9> awc737: then taht 127.0.0.1 address doesn't make a lot of sense... proxy of some sort?
[03:59] <shantorn> there is a new book called ubuntu made easy that came out ib august
[03:59] <jagginess> Domincii, wiki.ubuntu.org ?
[03:59] <TJ-> awc737: sorry, was busy elsewhere.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT  (the other one is also used for recovery sessions, which don't do graphical splash screens anyhow)
[03:59] <awc737> i use a proxy at work, maybe i need to fix something
[03:59] <jagginess> (and of course help.ubuntu.com/org )
[03:59] <awc737> cntlm... damn
[04:00] <Domincii> Awesome, thanks for your time everyone!
[04:00] <awc737> thanks zykotick9 forgot about that
[04:01] <melow01> jagginess, nmcli nm enable <--?
[04:03] <thufir_> I installed xfce4 but only lxde works, selecting xfce just bounces me back to the login screen.  fresh install of 12.04
[04:04] <melow01> jagginess, # start network-manager <-- this solved my issue
[04:04] <jagginess> melow01, the documentation is still kind of tough about nm<>, but do you get a list of your network device?
[04:04] <melow01> jagginess, I'm not sure how network-manager got disabled.
[04:04] <jagginess> melow01, ?
[04:05] <jagginess> melow01, well when you logon to the desktop, NM is used with dbus.. dbus lets user-level stuff access devices
[04:05] <jagginess> melow01, maybe you dont have gnome-networking installed properly
[04:05] <melow01> jagginess, the command from nmcli gave me a table, but all devices were "unknown"
[04:06] <melow01> jagginess, now when I run 'nmcli nm' the device is enabled and seems to be work
[04:06] <melow01> ing
[04:06] <jagginess> melow01, i'll refrain into getting in details.. i'm still adjusting to using nm<> .. but you don't have to be root to use nm<>
[04:06] <melow01> jagginess, oh ok
[04:06] <jagginess> melow01, do you get the netwoking icon or some network display in your gui logob?
[04:06] <jagginess> ,/logon/
[04:07] <melow01> jagginess, yes, nm-applet is working
[04:07] <melow01> jagginess, I can ping domains on the internet
[04:10] <edve> Need help come in private
[04:15] <melow01> Ok, my wireless is working on eth2 but my wired ethernet doesn't work on eth0
[04:16] <melow01> actually; eth0 = wired, eth1 = wireless
[04:16] <jagginess> melow01, dont try to have them connected at the same time :/
[04:17] <Smackbook> whats the name of the thing that pops up when something crashes and asks if you want to send an error report? its called like bitchy or whiney or moaney or something like that
[04:17] <jagginess> melow01, (disable wifi, then try the wired)
[04:17] <melow01> jagginess, ok
[04:17] <jagginess> Smackbook, apropos bug<enter>, it'll give the name somewhere (terminal)
[04:17] <cdoublejj> so after a clean install and just now reinstalling, it locks up just after booting on the desktop, every time. I tried updating the installer and even tried it with out donwloading updates while installing
[04:18] <melow01> jagginess, I don't ever remember having a conflict before... I could've sworn I've always had them both on
[04:18] <jagginess> melow01, are you trying to run your own version script to fix this? (let the nm-applet do the networking)
[04:19] <melow01> jagginess, no, i'm not scripting
[04:20] <Smackbook> aha! its called whoopsie!
[04:20] <melow01> jagginess, just using basic network commands: ifconfig
[04:20] <jagginess> melow01, what's new and ahem (i'm not a big fan of), is the dnsmasq stuff
[04:20] <oscar_> hello, i have problems with cryptswap1, some one knows about? can help?
[04:21] <melow01> jagginess, you lost me there...
[04:21] <matbee> Hey guys, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04LTS to my HP Spectre XT and I'm getting a black screen
[04:22] <jagginess> melow01, was this an upgrade?
[04:22] <matbee> It's trying to boot via external usb-hd on usb 3.0
[04:22] <melow01> jagginess, no, clean install
[04:22] <matbee> Any known issues?
[04:23] <jagginess> melow01, this is stupid.. but after 11.10, they added more complexity to the networking, which includes dnsmasq..
[04:23] <melow01> matbee, did you configure bios to boot from usb?
[04:23] <melow01> jagginess, oh ok
[04:23] <jagginess> melow01, (you see usually dnsmasq is something only for servers, but they added it as a default)
[04:23] <matbee> melow01, It's booting to ubuntu just fine, but when it starts loading any gui it simply goes blank
[04:24] <TJ-> !nomodeset | matbee
[04:24] <jagginess> melow01, and essentially your "default" nameserver is 127.0.0.1, perhaps it's not configured well enough to pickup/add nameservers from dhcp.
[04:24] <matbee> Thanks TJ-!
[04:25] <melow01> jagginess, I'm looking at /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and I see the line: 'dns=dnsmasq'
[04:25] <WHAT_DOWN> why when i try to uninstall openjdk-7-jdk ap instead wants to install openjdk-6-jdk?
[04:25] <jagginess> melow01, (If it does pickup namservers from eth0 via dhcp, your system still uses 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver, but uses your ISP nameservers as "forwarders" << sound confusing already?)
[04:25] <jagginess> melow01, exactly
[04:25] <melow01> jagginess, should I remove it?
[04:25] <jagginess> melow01, hmm dont think so..
[04:25] <jagginess> melow01, not sure what else you would use there
[04:26] <melow01> jagginess, ok
[04:26] <jagginess> melow01, but if you use nslookup, what nameserver does it say it's using?
[04:26] <jagginess> (with wifi off, and wired on)
[04:27] <jagginess> melow01, dnsmasq is quite configurable, if there's no .conf in /etc/dnsmasq.conf , then probably a sample from /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq
[04:28] <jagginess> melow01, and it's well commented
[04:28] <jagginess> melow01, (the sample file itself is very well commented)
[04:29] <melow01> jagginess, thanks. nslookup returns 127.0.0.1, loopback
[04:30]  * Guddu_ is puzzled...How do i create a new icon on Ubuntu desktop? Install GNOME Panel and run a command at the prompt? Isn't it too much?
[04:30] <TJ-> jagginess: melow01 NetworkManager runs an instance of dnsmasq under its control, in the foreground, as user 'nobody' You can find the config file at "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf" ... also, try "ps -efly | grep dnsmasq" to see the instance started by NM and its options
[04:31] <TJ-> jagginess: melow01 "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf" usually contains 1 or 2 "nameserver" lines - which come from dhclient's DHCP OFFER
[04:31]  * Guddu_ is puzzled...How do i create a new icon on Ubuntu desktop? Install GNOME Panel and run a command at the prompt? Isn't it too much?
[04:31] <WeThePeople> guddu_, right click and select 'make launcher' or somthin
[04:31] <Guddu_> WeThePeople, Have you tried doing that yourself? :)
[04:31] <Guddu_> That option is not there.
[04:31] <jagginess> TJ-, dont edit .conf in /var/run, the proper .conf would have to be in /etc
[04:31] <Guddu_> And yes....I wished it was that easy....
[04:31] <melow01> matbee, sorry, the gui issue is beyond me, maybe someone else can help  ya
[04:32] <WeThePeople> guddu_, what distro
[04:32] <TJ-> jagginess: No, you don't edit it! But that's the file that contains the active nameservers
[04:32] <Guddu_> WeThePeople, 12.04 kinda sucks....Especially Each time when a straight forward thing as this requires me to get on to google :(
[04:32] <jagginess> TJ-, yes, I already explained that to him, the nameservers come from the dhcp offer
[04:32] <jagginess> TJ-, you can edit the dnsmasq .conf that's in /etc .
[04:32] <jagginess> ^
[04:33] <WeThePeople> guddu_, lol thats why i am still using 10.04
[04:33] <jagginess> (if its not there, there should be a sample around /usr/share/dnsmasq/)
[04:33] <Guddu_> WeThePeople, :)
[04:33] <TJ-> jagginess: That config won't affect interfaces managed by NetworkManager
[04:33] <Ben64> you could also use kubuntu or lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:33] <melow01> /etc/dnsmasq.conf <-- doesn't exist on my distro
[04:33]  * jagginess -_-
[04:33] <Guddu_> I wonder what went on in the head of the designers/developers/architects that they came up with Unity :(
[04:33] <Guddu_> Seriously
[04:33] <jagginess> melow01, because its not there, doesnt mean it cant be used. (theres a SAMPLE SOMEWHERE)
[04:34] <jagginess> (and in UBUNTU)
[04:34] <melow01> jagginess,
[04:34]  * jagginess is currently not on ubuntu linux
[04:34] <melow01> jagginess, ok
[04:34] <jagginess> ok i'm powering on a remote ubuntu linux here
[04:34] <Ben64> Guddu_: bit OT, but Linus has similar concerns
[04:35] <Guddu_> Ben64, R u on Unity?
[04:35] <Ben64> Guddu_: no
[04:35] <Guddu_> I hate it when end-users call me to ask....How do i add another shortcut on the desktop :(
[04:36] <DaemonicApathy> Guddu_: Why do end-users call you?
[04:36] <WeThePeople> guddu_, http://www.geekyboy.com/archives/384
[04:37] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> hello
[04:37] <Guddu_> DaemonicApathy, So that I can create another shortcut on desktop for them :( LOL
[04:37] <melow01> jagginess, found it: /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example
[04:37] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> i got a ubuntu 10.04 installation here, whats the easier quickest way of installing java?
[04:37] <TJ-> melow01: The way it works is, NM launches dnsmasq listening on 127.0.0.1 with its config at "/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf". When DHCP provides DNS sever addresses they are written into that file. The system's glibc resolver always uses 127.0.0.1 which dnsmasq is serving, and it forwards/caches requests to the nameserver's listed in the file.
[04:38] <Guddu_> WeThePeople, Thanks....That what I am doing at the moment...Running a command to launch a create launcher panel :(
[04:38] <melow01> TJ-, thanks
[04:38] <jagginess> /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example
[04:38] <Guddu_> THEJOLLYGRIMREAP, Quickest way is to just install it without thinking twice...
[04:38] <jagginess> i'm on a 12.04 ubuntu system here.
[04:38] <Guddu_> U r looking at installing JRE?
[04:38] <jagginess> melow01  "."
[04:38] <melow01> jagginess, same here
[04:39] <jagginess> so you dont know how to use the "cd" command ?
[04:39] <jagginess> tsk
[04:39] <jagginess> melow01, TJ- /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/examples/dnsmasq.conf.example
[04:39] <TJ-> melow01: If the nameservers listed in that file are the ones provided by DHCP (which you can check by looking in /var/log/syslog) then local DNS is configured correctly
[04:39] <Guddu_> THEJOLLYGRIMREAP, Here is a link that u can read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:40] <melow01> TJ-, thing is... I don't think DHCP is working on eth0 since I don't have an IP address
[04:40] <jagginess> melow01, and if the nameservers arent picked up properly with dnsmasq, there's a .conf file there (which i mentioned a while ago-- but the dnsmasq.conf file is LONG)
[04:40] <melow01> jagginess, ya, I opened the conf file... its long indeed
[04:41] <TJ-> Here's Stephane's original article on the switch to dnsmaq for resolving: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[04:41] <jagginess> melow01, you just check the "lease" on your router box
[04:41] <melow01> jagginess, ...and its almost past my bedtime
[04:41] <TJ-> melow01: If there's no IP offer... check what's shown in /var/log/syslog. NM logs copiously there
[04:41] <coon_> can someone help me with a minor problem
[04:42] <jagginess> melow01, , there's the server= directive
[04:42] <melow01> TJ-, ok
[04:42] <jagginess> melow01,  as well as no-dhcp-interface directive as well
[04:42] <jagginess> melow01,  but you should be able to use the nameservers field in the gui  if you know you're setting a static ip
[04:43] <jagginess> (again see if there's a lease, you can even use "tcpdump" to see if port 68/69 is being used, and there will be offer/release commentaries)
[04:43] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess thanks guys for the help but this is getting over my head in jargon. My wired and wireless were working earlier today and for some reason they are not working now.
[04:44] <TJ-> melow01: Get some sleep, try again tomorrow!
[04:44] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess It must have been something I installed
[04:44] <jagginess> melow01, dunno.. i can check something..
[04:44] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess I also have a feeling it might be the sleep function when I closed the lid on my netbook, not sure though
[04:44] <TJ-> melow01: You didn't add any manual entries to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:45] <TJ-> melow01: sometimes a full cold power-off and restart solves things
[04:45] <jagginess> nm..
[04:45] <jagginess> TJ-, that's for ifdownup scripts.
[04:45] <jagginess> TJ-, not for NM, unless he configures NM to have ifdownup work on its own
[04:45] <DaemonicApathy> melow01: You did power cycle the router already, right?
[04:45] <coon__> can people see me
[04:45] <DaemonicApathy> No, coon__.
[04:46] <coon__> lol thx
[04:46] <TJ-> jagginess: I was wondering if NM was confused and only half-managing the i/f. But as I said earlier, "/var/log/syslog" will reveal all
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> howto debug flash issues on terminal?
[04:46] <jagginess> TJ-, I think nm starts forcibly..
[04:46] <lobhater> what is the off topic channel?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !ot | lobhater
[04:47] <lobhater> thanks
[04:47] <jagginess> TJ-, so if he should check /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[04:47]  * jagginess remembers NM starts forcibly
[04:47] <melow01> DaemonicApathy, funny you mention power cycle... I power cycled the router yesterday
[04:47] <TJ-> jagginess: It starts from upstart... but NM will avoid any i/f listed in 'interfaces' - if that PC has suspended and things changed in the meanwhile it wouldn't be too hard to imagine NM getting confused :)
[04:47] <jagginess> TJ-, it doesnt.
[04:47] <jagginess> TJ-, see the manpage.
[04:48] <DaemonicApathy> melow01: Does that just happen to be about the time the problem started?
[04:48] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess I've also rebooted multiple times since the sleep
[04:48] <jagginess> TJ-, the "interfaces" is part of ifdownup. and NM can be configured to have ifdownup work, but you'll have to set it to on in the <Nm.conf> file
[04:49] <jagginess> (man NetworkManager.conf)
[04:49] <melow01> DaemonicApathy, I believe networking was working after the router reboot, I know it was working when I was at work today, but when I came home (after closing the lid), the network stopped working alltogether
[04:50] <jagginess> so far as i know, for melow01's problem it can be anywhere from a physical wiring problem to anything above
[04:50] <melow01> DaemonicApathy, I also installed Java JDK, Android SDK, etc...
[04:50] <DaemonicApathy> jagginess: I concur.
[04:50] <DaemonicApathy> melow01, I don't see how those would affect much.
[04:51] <jagginess> melow01, you using a "switch" between the PC and the router? sometimes those things are cheap and need a power-replugging  (this happens to me once every few weeks)
[04:51] <melow01> DaemonicApathy, jagginess I'll check the wiring but I highly doubt it. I'll just stick to the wireless. I just thought I'd check both connections while I was at it.
[04:52] <jagginess> melow01, you need to have the wifi on off, (you dont want to worry about setting up the default route)
[04:52] <melow01> jagginess, I'm using a simple "All in one" router/switch/phone/tv device from my ISP
[04:52] <jagginess> melow01, (wifi->off when trying wired)
[04:52] <melow01> jagginess, yes, WiFi is off
[04:53]  * melow01 is crawling under his desk to switch ethernet cables... brb
[04:54] <DaemonicApathy> And ports, of course.
[04:54]  * lotuspsychje hands over a scissor to melow01
[04:54] <TJ-> jagginess: if "managed=false" (which is the default setting), NM won't manage an interface listed in "/etc/network/interfaces" - that's what I was referring to.
[04:55] <melow01> haha
[04:55] <TJ-> Bad connection? kicked it?
[04:55] <DaemonicApathy> Haha is good...
[04:55] <TJ-> probably wrapped the cable around his foot :p
[04:55] <melow01> ok, I'm chatting with you on the same cable that was just plugged into my netbook
[04:55] <DaemonicApathy> Escellent. :-)
[04:55] <melow01> both my cables are good - desktop and netbook
[04:55] <jagginess> TJ-, you also have to use a mac-address with  [keyfile], unmanaged-devices=
[04:56]  * melow01 crawls back under his desk to put cables back...
[04:56] <jagginess> TJ-, to the two above directives, this if for letting ifdownup handle that interface
[04:56] <TJ-> jagginess: no you don't! I use the interfaces files regularly to stop NM handling a device.
[04:56] <ayawaska> anyone know off the top of their head the recommended configure/make flags for ubuntu?
[04:57] <jagginess> (and plugins= has to contain ifdownup in the [main] section)
[04:57] <ayawaska> let's say I wanted to create .deb packages from source
[04:57] <melow01> DaemonicApathy, jagginess, TJ- dmesg: eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[04:58] <TJ-> melow01: pastebin /var/log/syslog for us - then we can actually *help* !
[04:58] <DaemonicApathy> I don't think anyone has rolled out ipv6 yet anyway.
[04:58] <Ben64> some have
[04:58] <jagginess> TJ-, well you probably arent using it liek you think you are (dbus is probably already doing it hehehe)
[04:58] <TJ-> jagginess: I think I know my own networks!
[04:58] <DaemonicApathy> Ben64: Really? What ISP has?
[04:58] <melow01> TJ-, ok
[04:58] <jagginess> TJ-, you're saying you can avoid "loading" NM on startup?
[04:59] <jagginess> TJ-, you're using NM/gtk-dbus to turn on your network
[04:59] <cloudgeek> My system voice is dragmaticly very low , Ubuntu 12.04 (Dell-inspiron) , can help did i need to install driver or what else ! a
[04:59] <jagginess> TJ-, you have to edit that NM.conf file properly to have the interfaces file work
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:define 'low'
[05:00] <TJ-> jagginess: NM is started by upstart, it avoids managing any interface listed in 'interfaces' file - that's the default config
[05:01] <cloudgeek> My system speakers are not working! and when i switch to a headphone , then i can listen videos but voice is very low in comparsion to previous days.like now voice is just 30 % of last time!
[05:01] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: hope you able to understand my problem! else shall i need explain  more!
[05:01] <melow01> TJ-, DaemonicApathy jagginess, thanks for you help but i gotta pass out. i'll pick it up tomorrow
[05:02] <Ben64> DaemonicApathy: i get ipv6 from verizon wireless on LTE
[05:02] <TJ-> melow01: sleep well :)
[05:02] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess, I hope I didn't start a holy war between you two
[05:02] <melow01> TJ-, jagginess, haha
[05:02]  * melow01 laters
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:did you clean install precise?
[05:02] <TJ-> melow01: Get us that syslog, and we'll sort it!
[05:02] <DaemonicApathy> Ben64: That's interesting, thanks for the info.
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:maybe restart pulseaudio?
[05:03] <TJ-> I'm in the process of switching my networks over to IPv6 ... made more interesting by a VPN tunnel to one of my severs in a data-center
[05:03] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: nope ,but i need to check? i can paste some information , if want so you can anlysis what actually happen ?
[05:03] <DaemonicApathy> TJ-: Good luck with that, should be fun. :-)
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:did you upgrade to precise?
[05:04] <TJ-> DaemonicApathy: I'm expecting it to take a few weeks!
[05:04] <DaemonicApathy> TJ-: Well...yeah... ^_^
[05:04] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: no working with precise since last 2 months
[05:04] <TJ-> DaemonicApathy: I've got to figure out multi-path :s
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:yes but clean installed or upgraded?
[05:05] <Ben65> see, ipv6 on verizon
[05:05] <DaemonicApathy> TJ-: I'm not giving you any hints. It's so much better to figure out for yourself.
[05:05] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: I done only apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade only
[05:05] <Ben64> OrgName:        Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:its highly recommended to clean install precise 12.04.1
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek:might worth a try to reset audio
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[05:06] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: okay, let e see it
[05:06] <TJ-> cloudgeek: So, is this correct? The sound was OK, you did some minor package updates, and sound is now very quiet and no speakers?
[05:07] <cloudgeek> TJ-: sound working better in headphones but no sound in speakers?
[05:08] <TJ-> cloudgeek: but the important point is, this happened only after some minor updates?
[05:08] <cloudgeek> TJ-: so what i can do now, I am not able listen my lecture! I using headphones since last 2 hour.
[05:09]  * TJ- is sure he's typing with invisible ink!
[05:09] <cloudgeek> TJ-: can you specify what package i need to install or shall i need to clean any one !
[05:10] <cloudgeek> I also build gcc, octave ,r and scilab on my system, it is diffcult to clean this for me!
[05:12]  * DaemonicApathy thought he heard something from TJ's direction.
[05:12] <TJ-> A strangled cry maybe :p
[05:12] <TJ-> It's 06:12 here; I've been up 24 hours. I'm not well :)
[05:13] <BaylorRae> I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu 12.0.4.1 with OS X 10.7 and when booting from the CD it has been flashing an underscore for ~20 minutes. I know they said it takes a long time, but is this normal?
[05:14] <HaltingState2> OMFG
[05:14] <HaltingState2> i just rebooted and my launcher icons are FSCKING huge
[05:14] <TJ-> BaylorRae: No not normal at all. Did you get anything on-screen before it got stuck there?
[05:14] <HaltingState2> i want them small
[05:15] <HaltingState2> i am in unity 2d
[05:15] <DaemonicApathy> Install compizconfig-settings-manager, go under Unity, adjust icon size.
[05:15] <BaylorRae> TJ-: IIRC it opend rEFIt and I selected boot from CD
[05:15] <HaltingState2> DaemonicApathy, unity 2d
[05:15] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, sorry, selective oversight.
[05:16] <TJ-> BaylorRae: Sounds like it doesn't like the CD then... did you do an md5sum check of the CD after burning it?
[05:16] <BaylorRae> TJ-: No, only after downloading the .iso
[05:16] <DaemonicApathy> HaltingState2: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/how-to-change-unity-2d-launcher-icon-size-with-a-script might help.
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> HaltingState2, I would not get used to synonyms of swearwords here is is prohibited
[05:17] <TJ-> BaylorRae: It's worth doing... knowing you have an uncorrupted CD is half the battle
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> it*
[05:17] <HaltingState2> wilee-nilee, I would stop breaking ubuntu with updates
[05:17] <HaltingState2> I am on a work computer and it keeps breaking every new version
[05:17] <HaltingState2> sublime and blender and now i reboot and my taskbar is huge
[05:18] <BaylorRae> TJ-: what is the MD5 I should compare to? Is the the same one I used for the .iso?
[05:18] <HaltingState2> someone made the decision to take out the task bar too ;so i cant navigate between open programs; i had to install gnomebar
[05:18] <TJ-> BaylorRae: Let me test my fu powers with the bot... hang on
[05:18] <TJ-> !md5sum | BaylorRae
[05:19] <HaltingState2> why do i have to run a script to change the size of launcher icons!?
[05:19] <TJ-> BaylorRae: The same technique can be used to test the burned CD, although if you're doing it from OSX, I can't help you with how to address the CDROM drive
[05:22] <DaemonicApathy> HaltingState2: Because Unity2d is missing some of the nicer features that allow customization.
[05:22] <BaylorRae> TJ-: ubottu: where can I find the MD5 for 12.0.4.1?
[05:22] <HaltingState2> DaemonicApathy, i have to run unity 2d because the main unity is completely broken
[05:22] <HaltingState2> why did my icon size change on reboot!?
[05:23] <TJ-> BaylorRae: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[05:23] <DaemonicApathy> HaltingState2: I understand - I was only answering your question.
[05:24] <BaylorRae> TJ-: Okay, I the comparison returned false. Was I supposed to check against the .iso file or is there a different one I should use?
[05:24] <TJ-> If you've compared against the downloaded ISO and its wrong, then that is enough. If the ISO is good, check against the CD itself
[05:25] <TJ-> BaylorRae: If the local ISO  is bad, it must have been corrupted during download, so it'll need downloading afresh
[05:27] <BaylorRae> TJ-: the downloaded .iso checked out fine, but it looks like the CD is corrupt. Does that sound right?
[05:27] <DaemonicApathy> BaylorRae: Time to burn another.
[05:27] <TJ-> Yes... often burning does fail... sometimes bad disk, sometimes a dusty burner!
[05:27] <BaylorRae> DaemonicApathy: okay, will do
[05:28] <TJ-> Well I'm handing over to Boston MA ... Nottingham, UK is going to sleep :)
[05:28] <DaemonicApathy> >_>
[05:28] <b636bc7ca> Is it OK to ask here for software suggestions to fit a specific problem?
[05:29] <HackinBlack> No i do not believe it is
[05:29] <Domincii> Why are so few games available on linux?
[05:29] <HackinBlack> Because game developers are blind
[05:29] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: Don't you mean so few *good* games?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> b636bc7ca:if its ubuntu related
[05:29] <Domincii> yes, DaemonicApathy, I suppose you are right
[05:29] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: Steam is coming to Linux. Be patient.
[05:30] <HackinBlack> Demincii Dual boot with windows 7 for steam. But i hear Steam will be coming to linux soon
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> guys lets keep to topic
[05:30] <Domincii> HackinBlack, I can't afford to purchase an OS, part of the reason I'm running Ubuntu
[05:30] <Domincii> I seem to be getting major compatibility problems though
[05:30] <HackinBlack> Domincii So cant i. That is why they made thepiratebay ;p
[05:31] <Domincii> Even when using Wine or POL
[05:31] <Domincii> thepiratebay is offline
[05:31] <Domincii> They were raided today
[05:31] <HackinBlack> No its not
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> guys lets keep ubuntu related..please
[05:32] <cloudgeek> how i can that!wolform alfa is crated in which langauage! like facebook in php, Google in python.Is there any way to findout!or any specific IRC realted to this kind stuff!
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !alias | cloudgeek
[05:32] <HackinBlack> whaaaaaaat you are kidding domincii?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !alis | cloudgeek
[05:40] <HackinBlack> hello?
[05:43] <fitz> weeeeeeeeeeeee chat
[05:45] <f00dMonsta> anyone know if there is something I can do about folder sizes in nautilus not updating after I delete some stuff from within the folder?
[05:46] <f00dMonsta> like I would alt-enter to check a folder's size, say 37.8Mb. Then I delete a bunch of stuff inside of it, and when I check folder size again, it hasn't changed and is still 37.8Mb
[05:47] <zxq> 你们好
[05:52] <Domincii> I just saw someone leaving the car park next to my house to go to work, I've not been to bed yet, feels bad.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> ok can someone help me iron out this ntp issue
[05:59] <grendal_prime> ive done everything i can think of to work this out...
[05:59] <actionParsnip> grendal_prime: wassup?
[05:59] <grendal_prime> im still like 2 hours off..and nothing seems to work
[05:59] <grendal_prime> i have ntp installed.
[06:00] <grendal_prime> got two servers...setup...first off this is 12 04 server
[06:00] <actionParsnip> grendal_prime: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <grendal_prime> with like 4 vlans on it.  KVM server
[06:00] <grendal_prime> ya ntpdate not installed hold on
[06:01] <grendal_prime>  2 Oct 00:53:19 ntpdate[11797]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[06:01] <grendal_prime> so now i kill ntp
[06:03] <grendal_prime> ok now its right..but..i keep reading that this is the wrong way of doing this cause ntpdate only runs at system start
[06:03] <grendal_prime> so i need to set up ntp  to check the pool and calculate drift and...you know all that crap..but it straight up does not work
[06:04] <uczen> bonżur
[06:06] <timfrost> grendal_prime: can that system access the ntp servers that are configured, on the ntp port (UDP 123)?
[06:06] <grendal_prime> its making me crazy....umm crazyer and im almost out of wine
[06:07] <grendal_prime> timfrost, well im not blocking anything outbound
[06:07] <grendal_prime> i got the list of servers i have from the ubuntu website.
[06:07] <grendal_prime> so...i mean i dont know what else could be wrong.
[06:07] <grendal_prime> i do get this....
[06:08] <grendal_prime> ntpd exiting on signal 15
[06:11] <grendal_prime> its crazy...and i got a werid other thing i have to look at tonight.   i dont know
[06:11] <grendal_prime> if i drink more i can get lost between here and the house...and then..just sleep under the trampline
[06:11] <grendal_prime> crap i typed that didnt i
[06:12] <cjs> grendal_prime: What does "ntpdc -p" say?
[06:12] <grendal_prime> hold please
[06:13] <grendal_prime> read: Connection refused
[06:13] <grendal_prime> but its turne off right now
[06:13] <cjs> That command queries a running ntpd.
[06:13] <grendal_prime> so that is not really very ...well  unexpected
[06:14] <grendal_prime> you want i should turn the ntpd back on first?
[06:14] <cjs> Yup.
[06:14] <grendal_prime> funny question
[06:14] <grendal_prime> lists two servers
[06:14] <grendal_prime> =ec2-50-16-231-1 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.09334 -8.872619 2.81735
[06:15] <grendal_prime> =europium.canoni 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.16257 -8.862274 2.81735
[06:15] <grendal_prime> by the way..i have done this before.
[06:15] <cjs> So looks like you're eight seconds off there with your local time.
[06:15] <grendal_prime> damn it...I KNEW IT!!!
[06:15] <grendal_prime> jk
[06:16] <cjs> So if you shut down ntpd, do an ntpdate against either of those servers, and then bring back up ntpd, what's your output look like then?
[06:16] <grendal_prime> so..thats acceptable as far as im concerned
[06:16] <cjs> Actually, being that far off indicates fairly serious problems.
[06:16] <grendal_prime> the problem i had was i was 2 hours off before
[06:17] <grendal_prime> ok well cjs, this is the problem im not able to wrap my head around...why is this so damn difficult?
[06:18] <grendal_prime> seems like ntp should be...you put in the list of servers you want to adjust agains..and wham...
[06:18] <cjs> Time synchronization over an unreliable network is an inherently difficult problem. :-)
[06:18] <grendal_prime> it use to work just fine.
[06:18] <grendal_prime> im on comcast
[06:18] <grendal_prime> 30 meg download
[06:18] <grendal_prime> 12 up
[06:18] <grendal_prime> pretty sure that aint the issue
[06:19] <cjs> Anyway, NTP doesn't generally just bump the time by huge amounts; it tries to slide it smoothly if it can. It also tries to deal with clock drift and things like that.
[06:19] <grendal_prime> i keep thinking its firewall related but...ive looked through that a 100+ times
[06:19] <cjs> Anyway, how does it look after an ntpdate?
[06:20] <grendal_prime> hold please
[06:21] <grendal_prime> =europium.canoni 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.16637 -0.243577 2.81735
[06:21] <grendal_prime> =clock01.sctn01. 173.166.255.77   2   64    1 0.10144 -0.254296 2.81735
[06:21] <cjs> Wow, that far out already. Give it a minute and check ntpdc -p again; did it drift a lot more?
[06:21] <antonio_> aloha folks...
[06:22] <antonio_> Anyone here in the #wine channel?
[06:22] <grendal_prime> im about out of wine
[06:22] <timfrost> grendal_prime:is this a VM?
[06:22] <grendal_prime> no this is the vm host
[06:22] <cjs> genewitch: You may need something stronger than that by the time you're done with this NTP thing. :-)
[06:22] <cjs> Oops, that was for grendal_prime .
[06:23] <grendal_prime> well the rum..well its just gone...wich is a good thing really  ..well for now
[06:24] <grendal_prime> did i mention im an actual registerd pirate?  I really fence...i also fly planes.   grrrr...ntp
[06:24] <grendal_prime> and i have adhd
[06:24] <cjs> So has it drifted further?
[06:24] <grendal_prime> lets not get off topic here...
[06:24] <timfrost> grendal_prime: cjs: can't blame guest time drift if it is the host :(
[06:24] <cjs> timfrost: Oh, good point.
[06:24] <grendal_prime> and its very much the host
[06:25] <cjs> So you are in a VM. Are you the owner of the host, as well as the guest?
[06:25] <Guest92282> hi
[06:25] <cjs> Oh, wait, I just re-read that: this is the host OS with the issue, not a guest, right?
[06:25] <grendal_prime> no im loged into the HOST
[06:25] <Guest92282> go game
[06:25] <cjs> Ok, fine. Anyway, how much drift now?
[06:25] <cjs> s/drift/offset/
[06:25] <grendal_prime> i have simalar problem with the guests..but i figued id start with the host first
[06:26] <cjs> Yes, that was a good plan.
[06:26] <grendal_prime> since my plan was to point the vms to the host
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !cups > lotuspsychje
[06:27] <hackinblack> hello
[06:27] <bustacap> Has anyone had a problem adding a city to the weather indicator app? When I reach the last step and click done it just jams up on me :/
[06:27] <grendal_prime> ya im pretty ground down on this at this point.  i guess i can just cron out the ntpdate...even thought everyone says "ARRRRG THATS A TERRIBLE WAY OF DEALING WITH THIS!"
[06:28] <Domincii> Chromium or Firefox? which is better?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> guys whats that http to print tru cups?
[06:28] <hackinblack> firefox
[06:28] <Hatori> domincii..define better, thats very relative things
[06:28] <grendal_prime> chrom tell it dont work.
[06:28] <hackinblack> but chromium seems a bit faster at times
[06:28] <cjs> Domincii: Both are equally good at starting flame wars when used in conjunction with the other. :-)
[06:28] <somsip> lotuspsychje: :631
[06:28] <grendal_prime> then firefox...(and that will happen)
[06:28] <somsip> lotuspsychje: localhost:631
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> somsip:tnx
[06:29] <grendal_prime> adp site does not work with chrom.
[06:29] <cjs> Domincii: If you're asking what you should use, I'd start with chromium and see how you like it. It's generally a bit faster and a bit more secure. But if things about the UI start to bug you, try Firefox.
[06:29] <grendal_prime> not last time tried anyway.
[06:29] <Domincii> Haha I figured as much cjs, I was thinking in terms of general speed, useful apps, and reliability not to crash etc
[06:30] <cjs> Domincii: Well, chrome rendering processes crash way more often that Firefox ever did for me, but on the other hand that doesn't crash the browser itself; you can just go back and reload the page.
[06:30] <grendal_prime> i like things in chrom..but reality is..some things just do not work..and when you need to fill out your time card...well..keep firefox handy and updated
[06:30] <Domincii> Righto, from the sounds of it there really isn't much in it, I guess it's mainly a preferential thing then?
[06:30] <grendal_prime> cause chrom will be a big fat BLOW IT on that .
[06:30] <cjs>  After many years with Firefox I tried out Chromium myself, and after a few months I'd pretty much switched to it completely.  It's got its annoyances, but the convenience seems to outweigh those for me.
[06:31] <cjs> Yeah, I still keep firefox around.
[06:31] <Domincii> If so I guess I'll try 'em both, thanks for the input everyone!
[06:32] <hackinblack> Chrom is the bad way to go. Firefox
[06:32] <grendal_prime> i remember when it was all mozilla. but im friggin old and i dont seem to even understand ntp anymore
[06:32] <hackinblack> is the good side
[06:33] <cjs> I remember moving from Mosaic to Netscape Navigator.
[06:33] <grendal_prime> yep me to..didnt want to mention that though.
[06:33] <grendal_prime> really dates me
[06:33] <cjs> Heh.
[06:33] <hackinblack> I remember moving from dsll to cable.
[06:33] <grendal_prime> remember trumpet?
[06:33] <cjs> It was the upgrade from gopher to WWW that was the really big one for me. Everything after that is just an incremental improvement.
[06:34] <cjs> Oh, yeah, trumpet winsock. This is seriously heading towards #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:34] <woot-0854> I remember netscape
[06:34] <DaemonicApathy> cjs: Re: FF~>Chromium: Same thing with me and Window vs Ubuntu.
[06:34] <grendal_prime> but what if im still using it?
[06:35] <woot-0854> #puppylinux
[06:35] <woot-0854> mt sry
[06:35] <DaemonicApathy> Puppy is useful for older systems.
[06:35] <grendal_prime> so are trashcans
[06:35] <woot-0854> lucid uses ubuntu :)
[06:36] <grendal_prime> oops sorry ...recycle bins
[06:36] <grendal_prime> alright im going to bed..
[06:36] <woot-0854> night | grendal_prime
[06:36] <hackinblack> please stay on topic guys
[06:36] <woot-0854> but wait
[06:36] <grendal_prime> well...after a few more songs
[06:36] <hackinblack> !ot
[06:36] <woot-0854> grendal_prime: ot"
[06:37] <woot-0854> grendal_prime: I have an ot question to ask
[06:37] <grendal_prime> ot?
[06:37] <woot-0854> off-topic
[06:37] <hackinblack> grendal_prime | !ot
[06:37] <woot-0854> can you join ubuntu-offtopic w/me for one question?
[06:37] <DaemonicApathy> Other way, hackinblack.
[06:39] <manir> #kanchilug
[06:40] <DaemonicApathy> Do you mean "/join #kanchilug" ?
[06:40] <mani_> i need help on pyqt and pymedia
[06:40] <rrajbe> Hi, Is there any way to read mount permissions of a mount point using linux System C programming?
[06:41] <Hatori> rrajbe
[06:41] <Hatori> yes, linux provides all of them
[06:41] <cjs> rrajbe: You mean, the information in /etc/fstab? The way the mount program interprets that is about the only thing that's really "mount permissions."
[06:42] <cjs> (By this I assume you mean, permission to mount and unmount filesystems at various places in the directory tree.)
[06:42] <rrajbe> Just 'mount' in CLI gives /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:42] <rrajbe> I would like to read the permissions to the mount point like r,w mode
[06:43] <cjs> Oh, you want information about a filesystem that's currently mounted?
[06:43] <rrajbe> yes. Like display all persmissions of mounted filesystems.
[06:43] <cjs> What do you mean by "permissions"?
[06:43] <woot-0854> rrajbe: type mount in terminal
[06:44] <mani_> is there any application created using pymedia?
[06:44] <rrajbe> Yes. I can do it in terminal. Even if i do "cat /proc/mounts " i will get same.
[06:44] <rrajbe> But what i am looking is some system call like opendir()
[06:45] <actionParsnip> rrajbe: doesn't 'exec' command in C run shell commands, the output may be capturable
[06:45] <cjs> rrajbe: You want to read /proc/mounts.
[06:45] <cjs> actionParsnip: You're thinking of the "system()" function.
[06:45] <woot-0854> or fstab or just less | mount]
[06:45] <actionParsnip> oh yeah
[06:45] <woot-0854> not ]
[06:46] <rrajbe> cjs: anything possible other than reading the /proc/mounts content and parsing the information?
[06:46] <cjs> woot-0854: fstab is not what's mounted, it's a description what can be mounted. Maybe you're thinking of /etc/mtab?
[06:47] <cjs> rrajbe: Possibly you could interrogate things with sysctl or something like that, but I do believe that reading and parsing /proc/mounts is the canonical interface for this.
[06:47] <woot-0854> cjs: you are right.  I normally look at fstab for how it was mounted. but mtab contains mounted info
[06:47] <cjs> Not to mention almost certainly the easiest way of doing this.
[06:47] <rrajbe> cjs: Thanks. :) Will read more.
[06:48] <cjs> rrajbe: Getting this sort of information from the kernel into other programs is in fact exactly what /proc was designed for.
[06:49] <rrajbe> Im looking to check all mount points which are in 'ro' mode.
[06:49] <cjs> And trust me, it's a lot nicer than sysctl(). :-)
[06:51] <cjs> I'm suspecting that the first two letters of the fourth field are always 'rw' or 'ro', so it's actually a pretty trivial parsing job in C if you trust them never to put a space in a pathname. (Though how they'd avoid that, I'm not sure.)
[06:53] <cjs> Ah, they're not complete idiots after all. Here you go: a device mounted on "/This is bad!":
[06:54] <cjs> /dev/sdb1 /This\040is\040bad! vfat rw,...
[06:56] <woot-0854> cjs: /This\ is\ bad! <-- would this work as an alternative to 040?
[06:57] <geirha> woot-0854: No, fstab(5) specifically says you must use \040 to represent a space
[06:57] <cjs> woot-0854: What I'm showing is what the kernel give you back when you query /proc/mounts. Nothing to do with how you specify it to the mount command.
[06:57] <woot-0854> :)
[06:57] <cjs> I in fact used <<< mount /dev/sdb1 "/This is bad!" >> myself.
[06:58] <geirha> ah, with the mount command, you can use regular shell quoting, yes.
[07:00] <manir> pyqt and pymedia is simple applications ?
[07:01] <linocisco> http://summit.open-xchange.com/ is cool
[07:01] <linocisco> http://summit.open-xchange.com/ looks cool. ANybody tried it . Zimbra vs OpenXchange ??
[07:08] <bodhi> god
[07:08] <bodhi> hello
[07:08] <bodhi> in the
[07:08] <Domincii> Hey
[07:15] <gaelfx> is there a way to remove all the packages installed as the result of a certain apt-get command without typing them all in by hand from the history.log?
[07:16] <actionParsnip> gaelfx: if you remove a package and the others are no longer needed, they will be marked for removal
[07:16] <de_> http://pastebin.com/jpWwsw8P
[07:16] <de_> the problem is that it does not come inside do loop
[07:16] <gaelfx> actionParsnip: even if I installed xubuntu-desktop and it installed things like abiword and whatnot?
[07:16] <de_> any help
[07:18] <de_> it comes till echo "start2222222222 $count"
[07:18] <somsip> de_: you probably need to ask in the #bash channel
[07:20] <actionParsnip> gaelfx: no, removing the meta package only removes the meta package
[07:20] <hackinblack> .ud butthurt
[07:20] <hackinblack> no butthurt?
[07:20] <actionParsnip> gaelfx: if you run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep xfce | awk {'print $2'}`
[07:21] <actionParsnip> gaelfx: it will remove all the packages with XFCE in
[07:21] <bazhang> !ot | hackinblack
[07:23] <loui> first time ever on irc
[07:23] <loui> omg i cant believed
[07:23] <actionParsnip> loui: welcome to ubuntu support
[07:23] <subdesign> how to extract .bin iso image?
[07:23] <actionParsnip> subdesign: why are you extracting it at all?
[07:24] <gaelfx> man, I should make a script or a little app to undo this sort of thing
[07:24] <subdesign> i usually archive movie files on dvd not iso thats why
[07:24] <nibbler_> de_, why not just convert it to da for i in $(seq 1000 1100); do loop?
[07:25] <actionParsnip> subdesign: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html
[07:25] <subdesign> ok checking, thx
[07:30] <subdesign> actionParsnip, bchunk worked, cheers
[07:30] <XiaolinDraconis> The shortcut "Page down" cannot be used because it will become impossible to type using this key.
[07:30] <XiaolinDraconis> Please try with a key such as Control, Alt or Shift at the same time.
[07:31] <actionParsnip> subdesign: np
[07:31] <XiaolinDraconis> how would this make it impossible to type???
[07:32] <chris_> hello
[07:33] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: if you don't use pageDN, then you could assign it
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> XiaolinDraconis, i was trying to assign it to volume control
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> wtf
[07:34] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, ^
[07:34] <mimmo92> ciAO
[07:34] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then use SuperL + PageUp etc
[07:34] <mimmo92> hello
[07:34] <Blue1> howdy tex
[07:34] <chris_> Now I am using xubuntu
[07:34] <chris_> xubuntu
[07:35] <mimmo92> !list
[07:35] <mimmo92> !alis
[07:35] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, i have a script that uses xmodmap to make R_Alt my spacebar
[07:35] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, would you know what vol up and down would be referred to using this
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> xmodmap -e "remove mod1 = Alt_R"
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_R = space"
[07:37] <XiaolinDraconis> is how i currently achieve the spacebar mod
[07:39] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: I have keys mapped to functions like this, but within the window manager rather than in xmodmap which is purely to remap keys IIRC. I use the command "amixer -q sset Master 2+" to increase volume  and 2- to decrease
[07:41] <Ben64> somsip: I do a similar thing. except mine does "amixer -c 0 set Master 1+ unmute"
[07:41] <somsip> Ben64: do you do it in a way that might help XiaolinDraconis?
[07:41] <Ben64> my keyboard has multimedia keys for it that I use]
[07:42] <Ben64> not sure if it would work on pgup,pgdown
[07:42] <somsip> Ben64: k - leave it to him to followup if that helps him
[07:42] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont understand what amixer is
[07:42] <Ben64> XiaolinDraconis: I do it in gconf, /desktop/gnome/keybindings/
[07:42] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: it controls the volume, which is what you were asking about
[07:43] <XiaolinDraconis> gconf that should work
[07:43] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks guys
[07:44] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: np
[07:46] <XiaolinDraconis> would one of you take a screenshot of the gconf on that
[07:46] <XiaolinDraconis> please
[07:47] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: I don't use gconf and i think Ben64 is gone
[07:47] <XiaolinDraconis> indeed he has
[07:47] <Shadow`_> ok so why cant i remove an installed package
[07:47]  * Shadow`_ sighs go ubuntu
[07:48] <XiaolinDraconis> more details get quicker responses
[07:48] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: whathappens when you try?
[07:49] <Shadow`_> well php5 is installed, but somehow without mysqli, so i gotta redo it, or wanna try at least. aptitude/apt-get remove php5 will give me a 'package is not installed', package is right there in /etc/php5, i can execute php on the commandline and apache still loads php pages
[07:50] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep php5    please use a pastebin or pipe to pastebinit :)
[07:50] <Shadow`_> libapache2-mod-php5, php5-cli, php5-common
[07:50] <Shadow`_> ah
[07:50] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: that's not the full output
[07:51] <Shadow`_> ye want version nrs and describtion too?
[07:51] <Shadow`_> 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4
[07:51] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: if you run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dpkg -l | grep php5 | pastebinit       what is output>
[07:52] <Shadow`_> what i just told u minus the 'ii' and package description
[07:52] <Shadow`_> u srsly need the package description?
[07:52] <mtrd`w> Hello! Is there a way to bind commands to keyboard shortcuts using command line ?
[07:52] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: i'd like the full output please
[07:53] <Shadow`_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255462/
[07:53] <Shadow`_> the same what i just told ya -.-
[07:53] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: thanks
[07:53] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: yes, if you'd just given that when I asked rather than me asking loads of times, we could have been here a while ago
[07:54] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: /etc/php5 is the old config, its not the app itself.
[07:54] <lsj8924> 怎么立
[07:54] <lsj8924> 怎么加入ubuntu中国
[07:54] <b636bc7ca> I am looking for a tool to manage/monitor several hundred cronjobs (ownership info, per-job status, failure reporting); ideally, packaged for Ubuntu (although I'm certainly flexible on that) - anyone seen something like this?
[07:55] <somsip> !zh | lsj8924
[07:55] <lsj8924> !zh | lsj892
[07:55] <Shadow`_> ye i like doing useless stuff and installing unnessesary packages \o/
[07:55] <actionParsnip> b636bc7ca: you could cron scripts and make the scripts report to the logs etc
[07:56] <lsj8924> I want to learn python
[07:56] <actionParsnip> lsj8924: i'd ask in #python
[07:56] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: /join #python
[07:57] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: you could install php5 then remove it with the --purge option, may help
[07:57] <b636bc7ca> actionParsnip: I could certainly roll my own solution, just thought I'd query a few places first to see if I'm missing something obvious.
[07:57] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: is the folder not used by the other php5* packages?
[07:58] <Shadow`_> not sure, its an ancient 8.0 ubuntu i upgraded to 12
[07:58] <Shadow`_> i should've just wiped the darn thing and install deb
[07:58] <ThinkT510> Shadow`_: how did you upgrade?
[07:58] <b636bc7ca> Shadow`_: Stuff under /etc/php5 is marked as 'configuration', and those are only deleted if you do 'apt-get --purge remove ...'
[07:59] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: did you upgrade to Lucid in between?
[07:59] <Shadow`_> the do-release-upgrade command or something
[07:59] <b636bc7ca> "Note the removing a package leaves its configuration files in system."
[07:59]  * b636bc7ca suddenly notes tyop
[07:59] <b636bc7ca> Ah, irony - you are a cruel mistress.
[08:00] <Shadow`_> well i now got php from the system, gonna have a go at setting it up again :D
[08:01] <actionParsnip> Shadow`_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric-updates/i386/php5-common/filelist   seems the /etc/php5 is part of that package,which you have installed
[08:01] <nunnsby> hey all, anyone here know much about using TC for traffic shaping?
[08:02] <nunnsby> I'm trying to create a virtual wan circuit, with delay of 400ms AND shaping it to 256k
[08:02] <nunnsby> I have tried tbf, but it appears tbf will only set the latency once the max has hit
[08:02] <nunnsby> netem delay will only add the latency
[08:02] <nunnsby> I need a rule set that will do both
[08:02] <nunnsby> add latency by default AND rate limit too
[08:02] <Shadow`_> ye well, imma let my coworker work on it, he wants ubuntu (i want debian) so fun for him :D thanks anyways actionParsnip :)
[08:03] <lsj8924> :-/
[08:04] <sulaiman> Hello
[08:04] <actionParsnip> howdy
[08:04] <sulaiman> Is it possible to change the prompt text in my terminal?
[08:04] <actionParsnip> sulaiman: sure, look into the PS1 variable
[08:05] <actionParsnip> sulaiman: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/
[08:06] <actionParsnip> sulaiman: you will need to add the export command to the bottom of ~/.bashrc   to make it stick
[08:06] <actionParsnip> sulaiman: you can even add colours etc
[08:07] <Raac> are these all users or bots
[08:08] <ThinkT510> Raac: only ubottu and the floodbots are permited here as bots
[08:09] <Raac> so i s everyone idling
[08:09] <Raac> weird
[08:09] <Raac> haha
[08:09] <ikonia> not really
[08:09] <lsj8924> hahhah
[08:09] <ikonia> you need to ask questions/help for people to talk to you
[08:09] <buglyjoe> Raac : I keep an irssi window open when I work and switch to it once in a while. you pick up random interesting stuff
[08:10] <lsj8924> I want to lean python
[08:10] <lsj8924> but after i
[08:10] <somsip> lsj8924: ThinkT510> lsj8924: /join #python
[08:11] <sulaiman> thanks actionParsnip
[08:11] <Raac> wat is an irssi
[08:11] <ThinkT510> Raac: irssi is an irc client for the terminal
[08:12] <buglyjoe> Raac : http://www.irssi.org/
[08:15] <Calinou> ._.
[08:15] <XiaolinDraconis> xmodmap -e "keysym 112 = XF86AudioRaiseVolume"
[08:15] <XiaolinDraconis> fail
[08:16] <XiaolinDraconis> ooh maybe i was suosed to remove the current function 112
[08:16] <XiaolinDraconis> ummm i have no P key
[08:17] <XiaolinDraconis> had to coPy and Paste these P's
[08:17] <XiaolinDraconis> xev told me 112 was keycode of Page down
[08:19] <DaemonicApathy> p
[08:19] <Calinou> q
[08:19] <XiaolinDraconis> grr
[08:19] <DaemonicApathy> Sorry, just wanted to supply a lowercase for you.
[08:21] <XiaolinDraconis> never use ProPer grammar anyways
[08:21] <XiaolinDraconis> ;)
[08:21] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough.
[08:21] <XiaolinDraconis> why did xev lie to me?
[08:22] <XiaolinDraconis> nevermind
[08:22] <XiaolinDraconis> i think i didnt secify that it was a keycode
[08:23] <nina666> hi,  I had transfer my email on mozilla thunderbird files from my other laptop. but when I open thunderbird, it crashed after few seconds. I cant find what the problem is. im using ubuntu 12.04. other laptop also 12.04.
[08:23] <nina666> the  only difference is other laptop was 64bit, this is 32bit. Im not sure how relevant that is to the problem.. but just mentioned..
[08:23] <nina666> anyone knows whats the cause of the problem?
[08:24] <mtrd`w> did you try to launch it from a terminal ?
[08:24] <Fajkowsky> hey
[08:26] <Calinou> nina666: just type "thunderbird" in a terminal
[08:27] <Fajkowsky> why here is so quite?
[08:28] <nina666> Calinou, mtrd`w, i just tried, samething...
[08:28] <nina666> it crashed after few seconds
[08:28] <mtrd`w> there must be some error messages
[08:28] <nina666> i really need my email files
[08:29] <Domincii> I'm being advised to dual boot Windows with Ubuntu instead of trying to play games with only Ubuntu installed, what say ye #ubuntu? Is this the best way to go about it?
[08:29] <lsj8924> so qiut
[08:29] <ThinkT510> Domincii: probably yes
[08:29] <XiaolinDraconis> windows does it better
[08:30] <rp2> nina666: open a terminal, start it from there, see if you get a meaningful error message?
[08:30] <XiaolinDraconis> larger selection of games
[08:30] <ThinkT510> Domincii: depends how much of a gamer you are
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  for games, you best stick to windows,
[08:30] <lsj8924> I think the windows is the best OS to play games.
[08:30] <XiaolinDraconis> lots of awesome games on linux
[08:30] <Blue1> Domincii: works for me but then I don't do games  About all I do with windows is update a/v software and m$ updates
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> MS = Main Stream
[08:31] <lsj8924> but it says that the steam will be installed in ubuntu
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> this is true
[08:32] <actionParsnip> Domincii: depends on the game
[08:32] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: i play urban terror and penumbra on Linux just dandy
[08:32] <lsj8924> so I think you can play dota2 in ubuntu ater sooner.
[08:32] <Domincii> ThinkT510 and MonkeyDust, my second question is, should I dual boot both and partition my hard drives so each has half the memory, or should I have Windows as my OS and run Ubuntu on occasion via one of those VM things?
[08:33] <nina666> rp2, Calinou, mtrd`w; ok, done that , said thunderbird suddenly crashed. this is the details of crash report : http://pastebin.com/WjPANsr7
[08:33] <ThinkT510> Domincii: memory = ram, i think you mean harddisk space
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  depends on what you use your pc for, apart from games
[08:33] <lsj8924> I think the first choice is better
[08:33] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, never heard of penumbra, but i just got torchlight on ubuntu
[08:34] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: its a horror fps survivor
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> even I have heard of penumbra and i'm not a gamer
[08:34] <lsj8924> I have two OS in my computer together.
[08:34] <Domincii> ThinkT510, you're right, that's what I meant :P
[08:35] <XiaolinDraconis> im not up on current gaming events, using very dated hardware
[08:35] <actionParsnip> lsj8924: http://dota2linux.dy.fi/
[08:35] <Domincii> MonkeyDust, mainly just browsing the web, using ircs and skyping folks
[08:35] <ThinkT510> Domincii: the space you allocate to ubuntu depends on what you want to use it for, i have a 10gb partition for ubuntu and thats plenty for me
[08:35] <Domincii> ThinkT510, wow, is that with dual booting or VM?
[08:35] <XiaolinDraconis> use ubuntu for browsing the web
[08:36] <ThinkT510> Domincii: multi-boot, i use more than 2 OSes
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> its safer\
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  I have 15G for /home -- 60% used
[08:36] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: windows can be just as safe, depends on config
[08:36] <nina666> isnt the problem caused by the fact that the profile files were from a 64-bit system on a 32bit system?
[08:37] <nina666> rp2, Calinou, mtrd`w; isnt the problem caused by the fact that the profile files were from a 64-bit system on a 32bit system?
[08:37] <digitalunity> can anyone confirm what version nvidia 173 is stable on Please? I don't need unity as such as I use awesomewm
[08:37] <ThinkT510> Domincii: i also use a storage partition so that whatever OS i boot i can access all my files (very good for reinstalling too)
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  I have 15G for / -- 60% used (oops, mistyped)
[08:37] <Domincii> MonkeyDust ThinkT510, I have 2.2Tb hard disk space, I would've done 50/50 between Ubuntu and Windows if not for you guys :P thanks!
[08:37] <mtrd`w> nina666: did you paste the *real* output from the terminal ? It looks like a simple crash report, no info.
[08:38] <nina666> mtrd`w; terminal doesnt give me any error. this is only a pop-up window
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  yeah, but I also have remote storage on an old pc (2002)
[08:38] <nina666> does it have verbose version?
[08:38] <lsj8924> shit
[08:38] <ThinkT510> !language | lsj8924
[08:39] <lsj8924> dote2 was canneled in steam!
[08:39] <Domincii> MonkeyDust ThinkT510, thanks guys, you've been awesome, I'm going out now but I'll be dual booting when I get home, I'll be back later and I'll tell you how it goes!
[08:39] <omwami> clear
[08:39] <DaemonicApathy> Have fun.
[08:40] <nina666> i dont see any verbose thing
[08:41] <mtrd`w> nina666: i've got thunderbird on 3 differents computer, with different OS, 32 bit and 64 bit. There must be a configuration problem.
[08:41] <XiaolinDraconis> i checked xmodmap and it says keycode 112 is set to raise volume key but its not working!!! grr
[08:41] <somsip> nina666: when you say you copied all of your emails over, how did you do that? And do you use an IMAP mailbox?
[08:43] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: if you run the amixer command, does it change the volume?
[08:44] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, havent tried that
[08:44] <nina666> somsip, I copied the *.default folder and pasted it in the new system
[08:44] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: probably worth exploring.....if its the wrong command, it won't change the volume will it
[08:44] <nina666> and yes it is an IMAP mailbox, but I never had problems on the other machine
[08:45] <nina666> when thunderbird opens I can see my emails that comes from the profile, but crashes after 2-3 seconds
[08:45] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, could u paste somsip's command my log doesnt go that far back
[08:45] <somsip> nina666: well...if it's IMAP, can't you just setup your user/pas and download everything again? And you did copy to ~/.thunderbird/*.default?
[08:45] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: why did you not verify you had the right command before messing with keyboard shortcut stuff?
[08:46] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: amixer -c 0 set Master 1+ unmute
[08:46] <somsip> nina666: and you copied profiles.ini too?
[08:46] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, because my xmodmap method is temorary
[08:46] <nina666> somsip; no, because emails are not there anymore. and yes i did that
[08:46] <nina666> yes
[08:46] <nina666> the whole thing
[08:46] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: but you still need to make sure the command you are running is right....
[08:47] <actionParsnip> nina666: did you chown the files to the new user?
[08:47] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, i have been googling and cannot find the xmodmap way of doing it
[08:47] <somsip> nina666: this looks old, but have you played with the profile manager? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder
[08:48] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: yes but you have a command, which you haven't tested, once you know the command works and changes the volume, then you can mess with the keyboard stuff
[08:48] <somsip> nina666: and your permissions are good in your new .thunderbird folder?
[08:48] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, how could i know if it worked without testing?
[08:49] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: you run the command in the terminal, if the command changes the volume you have a winner
[08:49] <somsip> nina666: and try thunderbird -safe-mode which might allow you to rebuild your email DB
[08:49] <nina666> somsip; yes to all questions
[08:50] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: but you've not tested it so you are pressing the shortcut in hope that the command is ok and getting frustrated when it doesn't work when you have faild to check the command is even going to do what you want?
[08:50] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, the method i used was not a command to alter volume, but to alter keys, its the only method i really knew of, aside from the amixer command and i dont know how to set keys to run commands
[08:51] <root_> Can someone else? I am trying to do command make install and it says i dont have gen essencial directory or file error but i installed essientals
[08:51] <nina666> somosip; wow that worked!
[08:51] <somsip> nina666: and are you able to rebuild the DB
[08:51] <nina666> somosip; the safemode thing
[08:51] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, and the command did do what i want, output of xmodmap -pke shows keycode 112 is set to audioraisevolume
[08:52] <nina666> somsip, firstly, thanks alot
[08:52] <nina666> somsip, but what do you mean by rebuilding?
[08:52] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, audioraisevolume is set as a key in the keyboard shortcuts
[08:52] <somsip> nina666: no worries. Have to chuck a few coconuts until you win a fish...
[08:52] <root_> Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help
[08:53] <somsip> nina666: ISTR an option on the File menu to rebuild the message index
[08:53] <somsip> nina666: or is it Compact...
[08:54] <root_> Can someone else? I am trying to do command make install and it says i dont have gen essencial directory or file error but i installed essientals
[08:54] <nina666> somsip; i see compact folders
[08:54] <nina666> somsip; but the thing is, before this i never compact it on my old laptop
[08:55] <somsip> nina666: I'm thinking of soemthing to repair the problem that causes it to crash in normal mode.
[08:56] <nina666> somsip; thats fine, anything that works. i just wanted to let you know
[08:56] <somsip> nina666: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders tells us "Right click on each corrupt folder in Thunderbird, select Properties, and then press the Rebuild Index button. Its quicker/simpler if you only have a problem with a few folders, such as the Inbox."
[08:56] <somsip> nina666: but I'll leave it with you if you have what you want
[08:57] <XiaolinDraconis> somsip, could i have the amixer command you showed again?
[08:57] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, before u say u gave it to me, that was ben's code
[08:57] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: let me see
[08:57] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: "amixer -q sset Master 2+"
[08:57] <rrajbe> Hi, Is it possible to mount a filesystem on a machine without making an entry in '/proc/mounts' ?
[08:57] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks
[08:57] <somsip> XiaolinDraconis: np
[08:58] <root_> Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help
[08:58] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: (09:57:41) somsip: XiaolinDraconis: "amixer -q sset Master 2+"
[08:58] <alumno> asdasd
[08:58] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks again
[08:58] <actionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: n worries
[08:58] <nina666> somsip. i think i can do that. i do not have that many folders overal
[08:58] <nina666> so i do for all of them
[08:59] <alumno> HEY
[08:59] <alumno> I BEAT THE MINESWEEPER IN HARD MODE
[08:59] <somsip> nina666: cool
[08:59] <alumno> IM AWESOME
[09:00] <FloodBot1> alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <root_> can someone help with this error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build: No such file or directory ?
[09:00] <root_> what do i need to install
[09:00] <root_> and how
[09:01] <root_> Can someone help im trying to comile and install ( make install) and it says error /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop. I installed essenstials thought PLEASE help
[09:02] <XiaolinDraconis> ok this is weird, i made a new keyboard shortcut and set the amixer command, when i pressed pageUp it warned me that it was already in use as a volume control, so the xmodmap command worked, but somehow i dont have a "p" anymore ???
[09:03] <XiaolinDraconis> actionParsnip, and yes i confirmed amixer with -h and read what the arguments do
[09:03] <XiaolinDraconis> ;)
[09:04] <retrorex> why the hell can't i use Gtwitter. after putting in the usrname pass the thing wouldnt log me in .The same with twitux
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> retrorex  you mean gwibber?
[09:06] <XiaolinDraconis> im going to log out and back in, to reset the xmodmap settings ive screwed up
[09:07] <retrorex> MonkeyDust :gtwitter is a twitterclient like gwibber  , twitux
[09:07] <Dae> MonkeyDust: "gTwitter is a Linux client for reading and posting to twitter.com web service."
[09:08] <nina666> somsip. ok done. i actually just mafe the File>Compact... and launch thunderbird in normal way and it works!!
[09:08] <retrorex> I just can't figure out were I am wrong. I think it has some thing to do with API's
[09:08] <nina666> somsip, thanks alot for your help! you saved me a bad headache
[09:09] <somsip> nina666: np. I'm glad it worked.
[09:09] <alumno> dsadsad
[09:09] <alumno> I FULL
[09:09] <alumno> I FUCK ALL OF YOUR MOTHERS!!
[09:09] <alumno> I FUCK ALL OF YOUR MOTHERS!!
[09:09] <lsj8924> I want to enter the #python ,but after I /join #python ,no response.why?
[09:09] <FloodBot1> alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <Dae> Hmm...no ban request feature?
[09:11] <somsip> Dae: there are mods around. Leave it to them
[09:11] <somsip> *ops
[09:11] <Dae> somsip: Fair enough.
[09:11] <somsip> Dae: there is the !ops command if someone is being a big problem and there is no ops presence
[09:11] <Dae> Ah, duh. Thanks, I forgot about that.
[09:12] <Cnythnk> haha seem like someone had a bad experience with debian
[09:12] <Cnythnk> ubuntu*
[09:12] <philipp__> guys how the **** do i edit one of this *** unity starters?
[09:13] <dr_willis> 'starters' =  what exactly.
[09:13] <philipp__> dr_willis, that bar with icons on the left?
[09:13] <dr_willis> thats the left side 'panel'
[09:13] <Dae> What exactly are you looking to edit, philipp__?
[09:14] <philipp__> Dae, i want it to start chromium with a parameter
[09:14] <ardchoille> philipp__: right click to "stick to panel", drag and drop to re-order
[09:14] <Dae> The easiest thing to do would be to make a launcher, then add that to the Unity panel.
[09:14] <philipp__> ardchoille, thats cute! how can i change the command it executes?
[09:15] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[09:15] <ardchoille> philipp__: see what Dae posted, that's the easiest
[09:15] <philipp__> Dae, im not gonna work around. things like that have to work -.-
[09:15] <actionParsnip> philipp__: ubuntu-tweak can edit the icons in the unity bar
[09:15] <philipp__> its not an unity launcher
[09:15] <dr_willis> find the chromium.desktop launcher file and copy it to make your own, or edit it for system wide changes
[09:16] <philipp__> dr_willis, where do i find it?
[09:16] <dr_willis> locate command will show it where its at.
[09:16] <ardchoille> philipp__: /usr/share/applications probablu
[09:16] <dr_willis> locate chromium.desktop     perhaps.
[09:17] <actionParsnip> probably chromium-browser.desktop
[09:18] <philipp__> actionParsnip, thx it is
[09:19] <gbili> hello, i would like to know what is the .profile like file that gest executed at bash login?
[09:19] <nina666> somsip; ok just one last question. non related to problem. my inbox always synchronizes but not my sent folder. do you know how I set settings for that?
[09:19] <dr_willis> gbili:  theres a .profile in your home dir.
[09:19] <dev___> hello
[09:19] <dr_willis> gbili:  and a .bashrc
[09:19] <somsip> nina666: It's in the options...two secs
[09:20] <somsip> nina666: Edit|Account Settings, Synch and Storage, Advanced button, tick everything you want.
[09:21] <dev___> yea
[09:21] <dev___> hello
[09:21] <dev___> anyone there
[09:21] <dev___> sos to human
[09:21] <Dae> !enter | dev___
[09:21] <QuantumQrack> Which version of ubuntu release do I need to install with amd cpu?
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> dev___  tou're in, it works
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> y
[09:22] <va> Hi. How do i make the "unlock" button in system settings active? It says "system policy prevents changes. contact admin" when i hover on it.
[09:22] <actionParsnip> QuantumQrack: either the 32bit or the 64bit ISOs.
[09:22] <tsimpson> QuantumQrack: the i386 version is for any 32bit (or 64bit) CPU, the AMD64 version is for any 64bit CPU. which you choose depends on if you want 32 or 64bit
[09:22] <dev___> hellook
[09:23] <QuantumQrack> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386 <--?
[09:23] <QuantumQrack> ahh, ok tsimpson
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> QuantumQrack  is your cpu 32bit or 64bit.
[09:23] <actionParsnip> QuantumQrack: how much RAM do you have?
[09:24] <Calinou> QuantumQrack: get the 64 bit one, unless your computer is 8+ years old
[09:24] <QuantumQrack> have plenty of ram and spare sticks of ram lying around.  Maybe 6 gigs
[09:24] <Calinou> it will almost always work
[09:24] <Calinou> 64 bit supports > 3GB RAM and is faster
[09:24] <QuantumQrack> ahh, good point, forgot about that.
[09:24] <actionParsnip> Calinou: its not outright faster
[09:24] <tsimpson> the 32bit version supports more than 4GB of RAM too
[09:24] <tsimpson> with PAE
[09:24] <Calinou> PAE is terrible
[09:24] <dev___> I have 8GB ram
[09:24] <Calinou> messes up with drivers
[09:25] <Calinou> and doesn't change per process limit
[09:25] <philipp__> thx guys it worked
[09:25] <actionParsnip> Calinou: some apps under 64bit will be faster, like audio and video encoding
[09:25] <philipp__> that edit such things does not work out of the box is a joke though
[09:25] <actionParsnip> Calinou: for web access and that sort of thing itwill make near-zero difference
[09:25] <QuantumQrack> The cpu is an AMD Atholon 64 X2 dual core
[09:26] <dev___> 64Bit is the future
[09:26] <actionParsnip> QuantumQrack: I'd use 64bit then
[09:26] <dev___> use 64bit
[09:26] <dr_willis> !brainstorm > philipp__
[09:26] <QuantumQrack> k
[09:27] <Calinou> actionParsnip: who said I was talking about web access?
[09:27] <Calinou> QuantumQrack: 64bit
[09:27] <actionParsnip> Calinou: you said 64bit is faster
[09:27] <dev___> 64bit is faster
[09:27] <dev___> action
[09:27] <philipp__> dr_willis, no point in that... unity is bejond hope
[09:27] <dr_willis> philipp__:  so is ranting in the irc channels. have a nice day.,
[09:27] <actionParsnip> dev___:  its not, in most cases the difference is negligable
[09:28] <dr_willis> bbl.
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> philipp__  you're free to not use unity
[09:28] <dev___> If you ur system support 64bit use 64bit that simple
[09:28] <actionParsnip> dev___: in data intensive stuff like encoding data it will be difference
[09:28] <dev___> thats what im talking about action
[09:28] <philipp__> MonkeyDust, i know and hell i have no idea why i still installed it...
[09:28] <actionParsnip> dev___: but saying '64bit is faster' is misleading
[09:28] <Dae> philipp__: The more advanced Ubunters may choose something other than Unity, for easier access to the features they like. Unity seems to focus more on simplicity for the common user, though.
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> philipp__  it's there by default
[09:28] <philipp__> MonkeyDust, i usually use debian stable but need ubuntu for school
[09:28] <dev___> No its not
[09:29] <dev___> Ill compare my rig to any 32bit anyday
[09:29] <actionParsnip> dev___: it is because it sounds like using word processing and so forth willbe faster too, which it won't
[09:30] <philipp__> Dae, i once installed unity by my grandmother. if i would have been able to edit a couple of things it would be fine... so she abandoned it
[09:30] <philipp__> xfce ftw
[09:30] <dev___> Action though. Do you know how to fix this error  /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build no such file or directory Stop
[09:30] <Dae> To each, their own. :)
[09:30] <ikonia> dev___: ther file/dir is missing
[09:30] <actionParsnip> dev___: could make the folder
[09:31] <dev___> and what in it?
[09:31] <dev___> I am unable to edit or modify any files there
[09:31] <ikonia> dev___: what are you trying to do ?
[09:31] <philipp__> dev___, a kernel modul...
[09:31] <dev___> i am trying to use "make install" command for my graphics to compile / install
[09:31] <dev___> but it comes with that error
[09:32] <dev___> i am unable to make, ether
[09:32] <ikonia> dev___: what are you trying to build
[09:32] <dev___> a graphics driver
[09:32] <Dae> What kernel do you have installed, dev___?
[09:32] <actionParsnip> dev___: sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/build
[09:32] <ikonia> dev___: which one
[09:32] <dev___> i believe
[09:32] <dev___> for rt
[09:32] <dev___> realtek
[09:32] <dev___> nvm
[09:32] <dev___> wifi driver
[09:32] <FloodBot1> dev___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <gbili> dr_willis, thanks .bashrc was the right answer, .profile only gets executed at login I think, wheras .bashrc does at every new session or window, don't know the exact terminology
[09:32] <ikonia> dev___: what exactly are you trying to build
[09:32] <actionParsnip> dev___: which chip?
[09:32] <ikonia> realtek is not a graphics card
[09:32] <ikonia> dev___: look in the restricted drivers tool
[09:33] <nina666> somsip: weiredly, i do not have any synch and storage
[09:33] <dev___> why so many questions ?? i just need a answer :(. rt 8188ce or somethign
[09:33] <XiaolinDraconis> so i guess im stuck using shift+PgUP for raising volume rather than assigning PgUP as a volume key
[09:33] <dev___> restricted drivers tool?
[09:34] <greek> Hi. I'm on 11.04. I'm trying to install php5-gd but it's saying broken packages: The following packages have unmet dependencies. php5-gd : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.5-1ubuntu7) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 is to be installed
[09:34] <philipp__> everyone thx for your help! much aprrechiated! g2g to school now bye
[09:34] <Dae> nina666: "synchronization & storage"
[09:34] <dev___> restricted drivers tool?
[09:34] <somsip> nina666: Under your main account, you should have Server Settings, Copies and Folders...Sync and Storage. It's not there?
[09:35] <dev___> I have a older version of that with the build file in it
[09:35] <dev___> but not the new version
[09:35] <actionParsnip> greek: Natty is EOL really soon, less than 1 month
[09:35] <dev___> ?
[09:36] <actionParsnip> greek: I wouldn't bother as support will end and you will get no updates and no support ere
[09:36] <actionParsnip> dev___: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux/+bug/902557
[09:37] <nina666> nope... its no there!
[09:37] <nina666> lol thats very weired
[09:38] <dev___> that link has no answer
[09:38] <actionParsnip> dev___: its a known issue, not all bug reports have answers
[09:38] <greek> actionParsnip, well we're running 10.04 on our servers (which is LTE afaik) and those allowed me to update php5-gd. But the machine currently in question is my development laptop
[09:38] <greek> s/lte/lts
[09:39] <actionParsnip> greek: LTS, but yes Lucid is LTS. Server is suported for years to come :)
[09:39] <greek> I guess we could upgrade our servers to 12.04 LTS though ;)
[09:39] <XiaolinDraconis> very silly for ubuntu to say it would be impossible to type if i use page up or down as a shortcut key, i dont know about you guys but i am pretty should typing does not require either of those keys... ever
[09:40] <XiaolinDraconis> sure*
[09:40] <dev___> action i was able to install the driver before though perfectly fine
[09:40] <dev___> I just need to fix something
[09:40] <dev___> on another install i was able to install perfectly fine
[09:40]  * nb-ben bought a USB wireless adapter and had ubuntu start w/o networking so had to use terminal to operate the thing ;(
[09:41] <dev___> same device
[09:41] <nb-ben> anybody know how to make ubuntu show that nice little icon at the top panel after it started w/o networking
[09:41] <dev___> what nice icon?
[09:41] <nb-ben> so that I may connect to wireless networks without the use of the terminal
[09:41] <nb-ben> networking icon
[09:41] <dev___> oh
[09:42] <actionParsnip> nb-ben: it pays to research, see what works out of the box
[09:42] <actionParsnip> !away > qos
[09:42] <actionParsnip> !away > qos|away
[09:42] <nb-ben> it did work out of the box
[09:42] <dev___> Put back in the box and it will work again?
[09:42] <nb-ben> iwconfig wlan0 essid "my_essid" ; dhclient wlan0 did the trick
[09:43] <dev___> What chipset do you have
[09:43] <XiaolinDraconis> was thinking the samething actionParsnip
[09:43] <dev___> ?
[09:43] <nb-ben> no need for any configuration
[09:43] <actionParsnip> nb-ben: nice, is nm-applet running?
[09:44] <nb-ben> yep
[09:44] <nb-ben> actionParsnip, ^
[09:44] <nb-ben> looks like there's some configuration value somewhere set to off or something, that just makes it not show network related stuff
[09:44] <greek> actionParsnip, is it possible to get my php5-gd installed on my 11.04 or is upgrading ubuntu my only option?
[09:44] <actionParsnip> nb-ben: could try wicd
[09:45] <actionParsnip> greek: do you have any PPAs added, they may cause issues with deps
[09:45] <greek> Nope
[09:45] <nb-ben> i don't understand why it even has that no network mode
[09:45] <nb-ben> it's utterly useless to just disable networking if you can't connect to anywhere on boot
[09:46] <greek> actionParsnip, I use out-of-the-box Ubuntu so no PPAs
[09:46] <greek> I wish there was a one command upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 :-P
[09:46] <QuantumQrack> Won a new case at PAX seattle, so I am going to use some old hardware to run linux with the case.  I hope it goes smoothly installing off a USB stick.
[09:46] <dev___> has anyone here used grub customizer?
[09:46] <nb-ben> greek, you can upgrade automatically
[09:46] <greek> nb-ben?
[09:46] <nb-ben> using update manager
[09:46] <dev___> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[09:47] <dev___> ?
[09:47] <actionParsnip> greek: are there bugs reported?
[09:47] <greek> actionParsnip, no I checked
[09:47] <actionParsnip> dev___: never had to, what do you want to achieve?
[09:47] <greek> actionParsnip, I'll pastebin the exact error I'm getting one sec
[09:48] <dev___> I want to remove some of the options to boot into, and if i can change the purple color to something else
[09:48] <dev___> when i load up my computer i do not like purple showing ..
[09:48] <actionParsnip> dev___: uninstall unused kernels, it will clean up grub for you
[09:48] <greek> actionParsnip, http://pastie.org/4895959
[09:48] <XiaolinDraconis> grrrr
[09:48] <dev___> what about th apparence?
[09:49] <dev___> I have googled grub  and alot of people have custom backgrounds and looks of grub loader
[09:49] <dev___> how do i do this?
[09:49] <XiaolinDraconis> amixer code does not raise volume beyond 42%
[09:49] <greek> actionParsnip, if it's easier to just upgrade to 12.04 I'm totally open to that :)
[09:49] <XiaolinDraconis> not beyond 3% if volume is 1%
[09:49] <actionParsnip> greek: I recommend it
[09:49] <actionParsnip> dev___: so you want a background image?
[09:49] <greek> actionParsnip, ok thanks. I'll google on how to do the upgrade
[09:50] <dev___> yea
[09:50] <dev___> or color
[09:50] <dev___> just not purple
[09:50] <nb-ben> I can't really tell much difference between 12 and 11
[09:50] <XiaolinDraconis> i would love to get rid of that silly purple color
[09:51] <dev___> actionparsnip something like this http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/GNU-GRUB_3.png
[09:51] <actionParsnip> dev___: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-change-grub2-background-image.html
[09:51] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a customized plymouth screen and customized LDM screen but the LDM still fades from purple into the bg
[09:51] <david_> hi
[09:52] <actionParsnip> dev___: i believe if you just put the image in /boot/grub and run:  sudo update-grub     it willapply
[09:53] <ardchoille> What about the login screen> Can we change the theme/colors in that screen too?
[09:54] <actionParsnip> ardchoille: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[09:54] <dev___> Are you sure on that?
[09:54] <dev___> hold on
[09:54] <ardchoille> actionParsnip: thank you, sir :)
[09:56] <ardchoille> actionParsnip: this lightdm theme reminds me a lot of when I was writing GDM themes
[09:57] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i be sure of what i have ldm or gdm, i think i installed gdm but cannot remember
[09:58] <dev___> action How would i make a image tga format? it says it must be taht format
[09:58] <XiaolinDraconis> i am searching how to remove that purpleness that it fades to
[09:58] <dev___> is there any tools out there ?
[09:58] <dev___> you may know of
[09:58] <XiaolinDraconis> gimp
[09:58] <actionParsnip> dev___: use imagemagick perhaps
[09:58] <XiaolinDraconis> save as
[09:58] <dev___> ok
[09:59] <dev___> ill be right back im going to see if it worked
[10:01] <XiaolinDraconis> you're everywhere!!! https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-lightdm-manager/+question/194703
[10:01] <XiaolinDraconis> still trying to figure out how to confirm what i am using, gdm or ldm
[10:03] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: ps aux | grep light
[10:04] <tsimpson> XiaolinDraconis: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:04] <dr_willis> the 'service' command can show the status of lightdm also
[10:05] <XiaolinDraconis> i tried that ps grep think, all it did was serve to confuse me
[10:05] <XiaolinDraconis> thing*
[10:05] <varikonniemi> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:05] <varikonniemi> will say it outright
[10:05] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: print the output
[10:05] <XiaolinDraconis> trying that now
[10:05] <dr_willis> just shows running processes. ;) simple
[10:06] <XiaolinDraconis> well that process is definately running then
[10:06] <XiaolinDraconis> grrrrrr
[10:06] <XiaolinDraconis> definitely
[10:06] <XiaolinDraconis> for the life of me! i have been correcting myself on that for over a month and still type it wrong
[10:06] <dr_willis> sudo service status lightdm                  may also show its state
[10:07] <XiaolinDraconis> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager    fail
[10:07] <XiaolinDraconis> tried it just for the fun
[10:08] <dr_willis> details are more helpfull then 'fail'
[10:08] <tsimpson> fail? we're going to need something more than "fail"
[10:08] <XiaolinDraconis> directory non-existent
[10:09] <tsimpson> did you make sure to type /etc/X11, rather than /etc/x11?
[10:09] <XiaolinDraconis> copied and pasted so no i didnt confirm
[10:09] <tsimpson> that's rather odd then
[10:10] <diverdude> I just bought a brand new HP server and i am installing ubuntu 12.04 server ed. on it as we speak :) I was considering how to set up a really good backup scheme on the server. Different folders needs to be backed up, /var/www /home git repos, mysql bases and such. How do i go about making a proper backup strategy for my new server?
[10:10] <ThinkT510> !backup | diverdude
[10:10] <XiaolinDraconis> status: unrecognized service
[10:11] <XiaolinDraconis> ahh prolly needed to be lightDM for the "service" command
[10:11] <XiaolinDraconis> nope
[10:11] <dr_willis> XiaolinDraconis:  use tab completion. ;)
[10:12] <dr_willis> service co mand has a 'status-all' option also i recall
[10:12] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: can you paste the result of: ps aux | grep light
[10:12] <XiaolinDraconis> dr_willis, i believe its searching for "status" as a program
[10:12] <dr_willis> i dont even know XiaolinDraconis 's original issue
[10:13] <dr_willis> service --help
[10:13] <XiaolinDraconis> ThinkT510, one moment
[10:13] <dr_willis> perhaps we got it backwards
[10:14] <XiaolinDraconis> dr_willis, original issue was getting rid of the ugly purple at login, currently trying to determine if i installed gdm or am still using lightdm
[10:15] <XiaolinDraconis> ThinkT510, why do we need the results of ps aux?
[10:15] <dr_willis> purple? if you mean the ubuntu ... animation, thats the 'splash' screen, which is controlled by 'ply outh'
[10:15] <XiaolinDraconis> after plymouth
[10:15] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: to determine what is running
[10:15] <XiaolinDraconis> i already fixed plymouth
[10:15] <dr_willis> plymouth splash is befor you see the login manager
[10:15] <XiaolinDraconis> its lightdm
[10:16] <XiaolinDraconis> i already stated i was trying the other commands such as cat for fun
[10:16] <XiaolinDraconis> dr_willis, i am using a custom plymouth
[10:16] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: are you sure you are not just seeing the grep?
[10:17] <XiaolinDraconis> ThinkT510, the result of ps aux | grep light shows that lightdm is indeed a service running as root
[10:18] <ThinkT510> XiaolinDraconis: good, just wanted to make sure you were reading it right
[10:18] <lsj8924> is anyone here
[10:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i am not alone in my search
[10:18] <XiaolinDraconis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973585
[10:18] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: of course
[10:19] <XiaolinDraconis> 1552 someone's to be exact
[10:19] <lsj8924> I input the command /j #pyton
[10:19] <lsj8924> but no response
[10:19] <lsj8924> who can tell me why
[10:19] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: /join #python
[10:19] <XiaolinDraconis> there are 990 people there
[10:20] <lsj8924> no response for /join #python
[10:20] <lsj8924> the command line didnot work
[10:20] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: what irc client are you using?
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> lsj8924  maybe you have to register
[10:20] <XiaolinDraconis> lawls
[10:20] <XiaolinDraconis> hes using terminal
[10:21] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: you type it into the irc window, not your terminal
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  don't laugh at people in a help channel, is not nice
[10:22] <lsj8924> actually, I type it in  my emphaty
[10:22] <lsj8924> but no response as well
[10:22] <XiaolinDraconis> lsj8924, type it right here
[10:22] <XiaolinDraconis> lsj8924, just like a message
[10:22] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: can you see a channel list?
[10:22] <lsj8924> empathy
[10:22] <alumno26> heññppp
[10:23] <lsj8924> no ,i cant
[10:23] <alumno26> yho0laaa
[10:23] <l0p3n> lsj8924: try /j python or /join python
[10:23] <alumno26> i want bussys
[10:23] <alumno26> its kiwi time
[10:23] <ThinkT510> lsj8924: it really is better to use a proper irc client (like xchat)
[10:23] <XiaolinDraconis> MonkeyDust, sorry that was uncalled for, lawls comes out of the keyboard faster than i think
[10:23] <alumno26> sarp
[10:23] <lsj8924> empathy is not that bad
[10:23] <XiaolinDraconis> MonkeyDust, which is something else to lawl over
[10:23] <lsj8924> i think
[10:24] <Hackinblack> Is there a way to increase Grub Wait time  to say like 60 seconds? on boot screen / select screen?
[10:24] <Hatori> hackinblack, edit /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub2
[10:24] <lsj8924>  /join pytho
[10:24] <alumno28> ouus hsiit
[10:25] <Hackinblack> what is the command to edit that file?
[10:25] <alumno29> ola
[10:25] <Hackinblack> Hatori ?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> Hatori  use sudo -e /etc/default/grub
[10:25] <POllas> hola
[10:25] <alumno29> qerico el pene
[10:25] <alumno28> ortiiz
[10:25] <Hackinblack> alright thanks
[10:25] <Hackinblack> brb
[10:25] <alumno26> eeeeee
[10:25] <POllas> mmmmmm
[10:25] <alumno26> soy su morenito 19
[10:25] <POllas> me gusta comer penes
[10:25] <alumno28> gallooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> !es
[10:26] <POllas> ahi ama qe rica
[10:26] <Hatori> monkeydust, i think that was for hackinblack :d
[10:26] <POllas> jajajajjajajajajajaja
[10:26] <alumno26> eeee
[10:26] <POllas> lol\
[10:26] <FloodBot1> POllas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <POllas> kqakqaoqiwdhhfu\
[10:26] <dr_willis> you may want to backup the file first  Hackinblack
[10:26] <alumno28> me pones to burro gallo
[10:26] <POllas> quiero pollas
[10:26] <POllas> >*
[10:26] <alumno28> yeee
[10:26] <Hackinblack> alright i will well how?
[10:26] <Hackinblack> I dont normally have permission for it
[10:26] <alumno28> follamos call me?
[10:26] <alumno22> oiui
[10:26] <ThinkT510> !bcm43
[10:26] <alumno22> g
[10:26] <alumno22> lol
[10:26] <dr_willis> you use 'sudo' command/rights to elevate your permissions
[10:26] <alumno23> ola
[10:26] <POllas> galllo follemos
[10:27] <alumno28> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:27] <alumno22> follarme
[10:27] <alumno24> olaaaaaaaaa
[10:27] <POllas> jajajajajjajaja
[10:27] <POllas> lolololololo
[10:27] <XiaolinDraconis> are we under attack?
[10:27] <alumno26> hi guys
[10:27] <alumno23> hi kaathy
[10:27] <POllas> ola gays
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> !ops | alumno24 POllas
[10:27] <FloodBot1> POllas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <alumno22> lofohjvibhuerfucbgwrkufvgebtheth
[10:27] <Hackinblack> Ill  just take my cahnces
[10:27] <Hackinblack> brb
[10:27] <POllas> hiii
[10:27] <alumno22> rtgfhrtthethsrths
[10:27] <alumno24> jodidas zorras del imnfierno
[10:27] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:27] <alumno24> lasriosaa
[10:28] <chrisward> alumno26 was sending some nice spam to me :D and be ware, theres about 5 alumnos
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> chrisward  the children are awake, ignore them
[10:28] <Hackinblack> yea alumno is sending me pm
[10:28] <alumno22> oa
[10:28] <alumno22> men
[10:29] <XiaolinDraconis> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer      nice tool
[10:30] <XiaolinDraconis> i heard a channel had come under attack by brazilian skids earlier today
[10:31] <XiaolinDraconis> and i just had something weird happen
[10:31] <XiaolinDraconis> lost connection... to my wired internet
[10:32] <MasterOfDisaster> I don't like the fonts okular + libepub backend is using to render a document. How can I customize this?
[10:34] <varikonniemi> MasterOfDisaster, you can overwrite that font with one that you like
[10:38] <MasterOfDisaster> varikonniemi: how? by editing the .epub file?
[10:38] <Fuzzles> is this the ubuntu irc?
[10:38] <justus> yes
[10:39] <Hatori> no :d
[10:39] <justus> Hatori: now you're just being contrary :P
[10:39] <varikonniemi> MasterOfDisaster, it was just an idea how to emergency hack it as you like. of course the program should offer a choice of fonts
[10:39] <justus> just to make sure I understood this correctly from my search: there is no official GUI to manage services?
[10:39] <Hatori> just jokes justus :..d
[10:40] <ThinkT510> !joke | Hatori
[10:40] <Hatori> :d
[10:40] <Shadow`_> linux ppl have no humour, well known
[10:40] <Fuzzles> does ubuntu `2.04 not have a package manger anymore?
[10:40] <Shadow`_> apt,aptitude, software distribution center
[10:40] <MasterOfDisaster> varikonniemi: very much appreciated, thanks :) - I wasn't sure whether there are some dotfiles read by libepub or deps influencing this
[10:40] <DJones> Fuzzles: Yes, its called software centre
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Fuzzles  yes, synaptic, but it's no longer installed by default
[10:41] <ThinkT510> Fuzzles: the software centre is default
[10:41] <Hatori> justus, for upstart based job, i think yes
[10:41] <DJones> Fuzzles: Or you can install synaptic package manager
[10:41] <dev___> got grub background to work with custom image
[10:41] <justus> Hatori: that is, ... highly annoying ^^
[10:41] <justus> Hatori: So basically I have to go via console in order to disably notify-osd
[10:41] <justus> ?
[10:42] <Hatori> justus, i think yes,edit some files
[10:42] <justus> great, and here I thought the wiki entry had to be a very, very, very bad joke
[10:42] <justus> is there an official way to point out personal annoyance at something that I conceive as blatantly stupid?
[10:42] <Hatori> justus, but that was for system wide job
[10:43] <ThinkT510> !brainstorm | justus
[10:43] <justus> thanks, ThinkT510
[10:44] <Shadow`_> to bad ubuntu has a .com domain
[10:45] <Hatori> shadow'... And what do you want for them? .gov??
[10:45] <Shadow`_> .org is more suited for OSS
[10:46] <jrib> Shadow`_: use your hosts file :)
[10:46] <tsimpson> no one has ever took any notice of the meaning for TLDs
[10:46] <Hatori> shadow' i think canonical as a ubuntu developer was a commercial entity.
[10:46] <Shadow`_> heh
[10:46] <Shadow`_> ye but ubuntu isnt, anyways was just saying, ubuntu.org would fit more =p
[10:47] <Cnythnk> such a trife
[10:47] <Cnythnk> trifle*
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> Shadow`_  ubuntu.org exists too
[10:48] <tsimpson> Shadow`_: it used to have an .org domain, the .com domain is just more "friendly" to "normal" people
[10:48] <Hatori> shadow' thats a normal thing
[10:48] <dr_willis> ubuntu.xxx for sexy ubuntu themes.  ;)
[10:48] <Shadow`_> what 'normal' people would go to a linux distro out of nowhere on their own? heh
[10:48] <Hatori> wow, sound greats dr_willis :d
[10:48] <tsimpson> Shadow`_: that's kind of the aim of Ubuntu ;)
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Shadow`_  'normal' != interesting ;)
[10:49] <Shadow`_> ye, year of the linux date("Y")+1
[10:49] <Hatori> !oot
[10:49] <Hatori> !oot
[10:49] <Hatori> !ot
[10:50] <Shadow`_> only srs bsns in here!
[10:51] <dev___> what ubuntu.xxx is a actuall site lol
[10:51] <Shadow`_> theres allot more reasons why linux stays out of view for the general public, a .com domain should be one of the least of the concerns
[10:51] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:53] <md_5> there are currently no applications which integrate with your (null) account
[10:53] <md_5> I can't delete whatever was there
[10:53] <md_5> hmm probably +1 question
[10:55] <dev___> yawn,
[10:56] <Lufti> hi ;)
[10:56] <Hatori> hi lufti
[10:56] <dev___> I have customized almost everything on my pc and now i am bored
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> dev___  time to go outside and play
[10:57] <Hatori> dev__, do you want something more bit interesting?
[10:57] <dev___> Im a bit old to go outside and play
[10:57] <justus> ok, how can I turn off NotifyOSD? There seems to be the option of moving a config file around (which seems kind of messy) and not anything else... am I missing something here?
[10:58] <dev___> Hatori sure what do you have?
[10:58] <Hatori> dev__, one question, what do you interested in?
[10:58] <dev___> as in?
[10:59] <Hatori> dev__, everything.. :d
[10:59] <dev___> um, just tell me what it is
[10:59] <Hatori> kernel hacking maybe
[10:59] <Lufti> i have problems with my ubuntu 12.04 since yesterday. It locks the screen after random number of seconds and i have to login again. It happened twice even while i was typing this. It's the same screen that appears when i leave this laptop alone for some minutes. But suddenly it happens in shorter time!
[10:59] <Lufti> Any idea?
[11:00] <dev___> blow up pc?
[11:00] <Hatori> dev__, do you like programming?
[11:00] <dev___> I'm off to bed, goodnight guys
[11:00] <dev___> Hatori i do, learning perl atm
[11:00] <Hatori> :d
[11:00] <Hatori> goodnight dev__ , s
[11:01] <dev___> Yea, talk to you later.
[11:01] <Hatori> okey
[11:03] <bomgard> Any recommendations for an IRC daemon, I'm trying to decide between ircd-hybrid and ircd-irc2.
[11:04] <argyl> bomgard: UnrealIRCd is pretty decent
[11:05] <argyl> wiki has a good page of comparisons if that helps
[11:06] <bomgard> argyl: thanks, that looks very helpful.
[11:08] <AresTheLion> anyone know a alternative to unetbootin for ntsf usb formating for a win7X86 legacy boot install?
[11:09] <ThinkT510> AresTheLion: maybe they will in ##windows
[11:12] <b0n1> hey guys here is my problem: http://pastebin.com/rScN2x5t
[11:12] <justus> ok, did Microsoft pay the guys who implemented NotifyOSD? That seems to be about the single option left for this level of active obstructionism
[11:12] <janek_> hi guys, I have just set my first ubutu serv and wanted to completely switch of the logs related to eth0 I am working on. Any help would be appreciated.
[11:12] <_eMaX_> hello all
[11:12] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> anyone in here know their way around the nvidia drivers?
[11:13] <bomgard> janek_: which logs are you talking about?
[11:13] <b0n1> why does the error SIOCADDRT: No such process appear at the first time?
[11:13] <_eMaX_> how can I configure ubuntu to use a given smtp server I've on my net when I send mails from the command line like echo testing | mail -s Bla somone@test.com
[11:14] <kevind> hey everyone, i have problems with uninstalling a package could someone help me ?
[11:14] <blackshirt> kevind: what the problems exactly ?
[11:15] <janek_> bomgard: all the logs
[11:15] <kevind> blackshirt: i installed owncloud with apt-get. this installed the software into /usr/share. because i want it in my /var/www i ran "apt-get remove owncloud"
[11:16] <kevind> blackshirt: now the problem is: my apache still is looking into /usr/share/owncloud when i surf to "hostname.com/owncloud"
[11:16] <bomgard> janek_: logs can come from many places. For example, the firewall would be generating logs, you can disable that with sudo ufw logging off
[11:16] <blackshirt> kevind, have you purge it ?
[11:17] <itilious> is it possible to use a .exe screensaver via wine in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:17] <kevind> blackshirt: how ? ...
[11:17] <blackshirt> kevind: apt-get purge owncloud
[11:17] <CreazioN> Can anyone help me with finding a solution on how to set umask on apache @ ubuntu server
[11:17] <kevind> blackshirt: no i havent... thought its enough to remove. give me a sec
[11:18] <CreazioN> tried to read about http://www.ducea.com/2009/08/03/apache2-umask/ - but it wont affect :/
[11:18] <CreazioN> comming from debian where it just work out of box with the right umask - but ubuntu does'nt?
[11:18] <janek_> bomgard: I see. My aim is to disable all the logs related to internet traffic, so to speak.
[11:19] <bomgard> can you put a snippet of the logs in question in pastebin or similar so I can see what source is generating them? I'm quite certain they might be generated by ufw
[11:19] <blackshirt> creazion, what do you want with umask ?
[11:20] <kevind> blackshirt: i ran purge now but apache is still searching in /usr/share/owncloud" hmm
[11:20] <blackshirt> kevind: are you configured your apache manually ?
[11:20] <CreazioN> blackshirt: on debian its default 0022 - on ubuntu 0002 if im not mistaken
[11:21] <CreazioN> And i need same umask as default debian apache
[11:21] <kevind> blackshirt: i installed apache with apt-get. i just modified the port.conf
[11:21] <janek_> bomgard: beeing honest, I meant all the sources of all the logs. I will do what you said about ufw first.
[11:22] <bomgard> janek_: if you have multiple sources have a look at syslog-ng filters that will let you route any sources you like to /dev/null
[11:22] <kevind> blackshirt: is there a way to "reinstall" apt-get packages ?
[11:22] <janek_> bomgard: Excellent, big thanks. Will look into it.
[11:23] <bomgard> janek_: most welcome
[11:24] <blackshirt> kevind, yes, just install it again
[11:24] <blackshirt> or if was installed, you can use --reinstall options
[11:24] <blackshirt> CreazioN: i'm not sure
[11:25] <CreazioN> blackshirt: i need it with custom umask so when it create folders its set without php doing anything
[11:27] <lorenzo__> list
[11:34] <Fuzzles> when is steam coming to ubuntu?
[11:34] <lorenzo__> !list
[11:38] <kevind> blackshirt: okay it works now... stoped apache2 service. apt-get install apache2 --reinstall
[11:38] <kevind> did it
[11:38] <lorenzo__> !list
[11:38] <va> Hi. In ubuntu 12, gnome-control-center's 'unlock' button is inactive if logged in through Xrdp or through an LTSP thin client (works if logged in locally). It says "system policy prevents changes. contact admin" on hover. Anyone know how to enable it or what could be causing this?
[11:44] <diverdude> I bought a HP ProLiant MicroServer N40. But it is as if the HDD is not being detected. How can i check if the HDD is available in the computer? I am installing ubuntu server 12.04   When installation gets to partition disks, it surveys the two drives and says 'This is an overview of your currently configured partitions and mount points'. However, there is no information there. There are three menu options given: 'Configure iSCSI volumes'; 'Undo
[11:44] <diverdude> changes to partitions'; 'Finish partitioning and write changes to disk'. If I choose the third, I get the error message 'No root file system defined'. If I go into the first, it asks for an IP address for access to iSCSI volume.
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  mind: there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:54] <jgcampbell300> can somone tell me how to partition some extra drives with ubuntu server 12.04 from cli
[11:55] <codemaniac> jgcampbell300: man fdisk
[11:55] <jgcampbell300> thanks
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300  type sudo fdisk -l to get an idea what it looks like
[11:57] <wiben> Hi, I'm trying to boot ubuntu eee (Easy Peasy) from live usb on Packard Bell DotS2 Netbook. I've checked the usb stick on 2 other computers, it works fine. However on the netbook it blocks the boot with some information message about, Intel PineVIEW and Disassembly Prohibited. Any ideas how to work around this ?
[12:01] <asilhouette> any body help with these BADSIGs at apt-get update errors
[12:01] <asilhouette> tried google and stuff didn't work
[12:03] <dr_willis> wiben:  if you want  support here, you should be using ubuntuor an official varient. im not even sure easy peasy is getting updates, or any development any more.
[12:04] <dr_willis> wiben:  and id try the 'nomodeset' option if you get to a boot menu..
[12:04] <eyes_blue> hello
[12:04] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255761/ I use Ubuntu 12.04 32bit, today I saw a error/warning sign (a red triangle with exclamation sign in it) on the top bar. Clicking on it the message says on gray, "The update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Please update manually by clicking on this icon and then selecting 'Check for updates' and check if some of the listed repositories
[12:04] <akis> fail." There is no network problem since internet works fine. When I check for updates, there are none  and I don't get any message saying any repository has failed. there were no updates available, any idea?
[12:05] <dr_willis> akis:  use the apt-get commands from cli, tp update/upgrade the system yet?
[12:05] <wiben> ok, how about this then: Hi, I'm trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 from live usb on Packard Bell DotS2 Netbook. I've checked the usb stick on 2 other computers, it works fine. However on the netbook it blocks the boot with some information message about, Intel PineVIEW and Disassembly Prohibited. I don't even get to the boot menu. Any ideas how to work around this ?
[12:06] <dr_willis> if you cant boot the usb, check the bios settings
[12:06] <akis> some details please?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:06] <penseur_thinker> hi
[12:07] <dr_willis> akis:  apt 101 basics... 'sudo apt-get update'  and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:07] <akis> i did sudo apt-get update and i paste what i got
[12:07] <munuainen_> Hi there, help on partitioning much appreciated :)
[12:08] <dr_willis> munuainen_:  Details of the problem will help us help you. ;)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> akis, you have to do sudo apt-get upgrade too
[12:08] <munuainen_> I'm trying to combine the partition 4 with the Ubuntu installation partition 5: http://imageshack.us/a/img213/7746/partition.png
[12:08] <munuainen_> Tried Gparted live, to no avail.
[12:09] <mx_> I checkout my svn but I face this error svn: '/svn/openerp/openerp/!svn/vcc/default' path not found
[12:09] <mx_>  how can i solve it
[12:09] <dr_willis> munuainen_:  mergeing a primary partition into a logical partition?
[12:09] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255777/
[12:10] <ThinkT510> akis: that is upgrade, not update
[12:10] <munuainen_> dr_willis: I don't really care about the pt 4 being a primary, I just wish to merge them together so that Ubuntu will still boot.
[12:10] <ThinkT510> akis: update refreshes the repos and upgrade actually fetches and applies the updates
[12:10] <munuainen_> I'd also love to increase the swap partition size at the end.
[12:10] <dr_willis> munuainen_:  but you are trying to combine a primary with a logical?
[12:11] <munuainen_> dr_willis: Should I be able to merge if I delete primary partition and recreate it as a logical one?
[12:11] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255781/
[12:12] <ThinkT510> akis: that shows some ppas are not found
[12:12] <dr_willis> munuainen_:  if you delete one partition you can 'resize' the other..  you may need to enlarge the extended first. THEN enlarge the logical in the extended
[12:12] <akis> i saw that, what can do for that?
[12:13] <dr_willis> remove the faulty ppa's
[12:13] <mx_> any help
[12:14] <dr_willis> munuainen_:  if you have a empty partition, you can delete it making unallocated space, then gparted should be able to move/resize whats next to it
[12:14] <munuainen_> dr_willis: I think I tried that, but Gparted wasn't able to do that :/
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> munuainen_  but if you want to do that without dataloss, it takes a looooong time, i tried it
[12:15] <akis> ok. how can i proceed with the remove?
[12:15] <munuainen_> Monkeydust: Do you think I should wipe pts 4-6 and restart from Ubuntu installation?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> munuainen_  fresh install is always faster and more efficient - backup first!!
[12:17] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | akis
[12:18] <L3top> funny that ppa-purge comes from a ppa...
[12:18] <munuainen_> Ok, I don't really have anything to back up there so I'll probably reinstall. Thanks!
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> L3top  you cynic you
[12:19] <SarcasMo> good day, I'm having trouble updating my adobe flashplayer for chrome. When I download the tar.gz from the site instead of installing it mounts as if it is a hard drive, what should I do to install the update correctly?
[12:20] <L3top> SarcasMo: you should use the version in the repos.
[12:20] <ThinkT510> !flash | SarcasMo
[12:21] <SarcasMo> okey I'll try
[12:22] <akis> is it recomendable to remove these ppa's or maybe the problem is temporary?
[12:22] <L3top> SarcasMo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> akis  it is always recommended to remove ppas
[12:22] <ThinkT510> akis: it is recommendable to never install ppas in the first place
[12:22] <manimaraan> hi
[12:22] <dr_willis> akis:  do the ppas add somthing you need?  if not remove them
[12:23] <mx_> I just checkout my svn and i face this problem is this issue related to client or svn server as i said before when i checked out svn i face this error svn: '/svn/openerp/openerp/!svn/vcc/default' path not found
[12:23] <SarcasMo> 12
[12:23] <akis> as far i remember i installed a program trough tis ppa
[12:23] <SarcasMo> L3top: 12
[12:23] <Pici> mx_: probably best to ask in #svn
[12:24] <L3top> mx_: What is the full co you are using? Please paste here what you are typing.
[12:24] <SarcasMo> the flash plugin should already be installed right?
[12:24] <manimaraan> hi anyone help to me, i 've create pyqt in audio record gui and how to pymedia code in compare to pyqt
[12:25] <L3top> SarcasMo: not necessarily... apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer | grep Installed
[12:25] <AdvoWork> if my txt file has a link in it, how can i pipe that to wget? ive tried wget | file.txt  wget < file.txt  wget | cat file.txt   wget < cat file.txt ?
[12:25] <SarcasMo> L3top: installed (NONE)
[12:25] <L3top> SarcasMo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:25] <asilhouette> i'm having problems with BADSIG while updating, how do i fix them
[12:26] <mx_> L3top: svn co http://192.168.44.13/svn/openerp/
[12:26] <mx_> this is my command
[12:26] <SarcasMo> L3top: the warning is gone!
[12:26] <SarcasMo> L3top: thank you very much!
[12:27] <L3top> mx_: so you have an svn repository on your local network under /var/www? or... How have you set this up?
[12:27] <L3top> np SarcasMo
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[12:27] <manimaraan> [12:28] <mx_> no svn not locally its in my company server
[12:28] <L3top> mx_: in terms of networking, 192.168= local
[12:28] <mx_> and iam not configuring any thing is it need configuration
[12:31] <L3top> mx_: I do not understand the question, but I do not know how svn can resolve that if it is not on a local server under /var/www/svn/openerp on the server with apache(or soemthing) running.
[12:31] <mashbro> How do I install a local server on Ubuntu?
[12:31] <L3top> what happens when you just drop the 192.168.44.1 in a web browser?
[12:32] <dr_willis> mashbro:  a server to do what?
[12:32] <mashbro> mashbro: A server to run PHP, Python scripts.
[12:32] <alvesjnr> hi all. I need to use a program (meep). When I type $ meep it says to run apt-get install meep. I run it, but it returns  "meep is already the newest version.". Then I try to run meep, and it still saying to run apt-get ...
[12:32] <alvesjnr> what can be the problem?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !lamp
[12:32] <akis> thanks you all!
[12:32] <mashbro> Like WAMP or XAMPP in windows alvesjnr
[12:33] <mashbro> Thanks.
[12:33] <alvesjnr> mashbro, maybe this message is not to me
[12:33] <mashbro> yes, it was not to you, sorry.
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> mashbro  run tasksel (task select)
[12:34] <mashbro> Do I need to set any special permissions for adding contents into the WWW folder?
[12:34] <SarcasMo> what is a good virtual pc for ubuntu?
[12:34] <SarcasMo> I want to experiment with arch
[12:34] <dr_willis> SarcasMo:  virtual box
[12:34] <shantorn> Virtual box works well
[12:35] <dr_willis> !vbox
[12:35] <SarcasMo> thanks :)
[12:35] <shantorn> also grab the extension pack and you will get usb2
[12:36] <mashbro> What is the most trafficky channel on Freenode?
[12:36] <dr_willis>  #flood  ;)
[12:36] <dr_willis> perhaps ask in #freenode
[12:37] <L3top> alvesjnr: sudo apt-get install --reinstall meep
[12:38] <SarcasMo> I'm here https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads I want to have the vb for ubuntu 12, do I pick i386 or AMD 64? and why?
[12:38] <alvesjnr> L3top, it worked
[12:38] <alvesjnr> thanks
[12:38] <dr_willis> SarcasMo:  you pick the one that matches your install
[12:38] <L3top> np
[12:38] <dr_willis> did you install 32 or 64bit ubuntu ;)
[12:39] <SarcasMo> 32 bit
[12:39] <dr_willis> thats 386 then
[12:39] <SarcasMo> ah oke :)
[12:40] <bipul> it's i386 for 32 bit dr_willis  ? am i right
[12:41] <bipul> dr_willis,  what is the Diffrence between i386 and i686
[12:42] <ThinkT510> bipul: age
[12:42] <bipul> ThinkT510, ? age?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> bipul: indeed, i386 is older than i686
[12:44] <dr_willis> 386, 486, 686,   ;)
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> and 586 = pentium, penta means 5 :)
[12:44] <dr_willis> then they went pentium ? id hav e to refeer to wikipedi
[12:44] <bipul> ThinkT510,  when i use this command "uname -ar" it shows me 2 things i386 and i686 why ?
[12:44] <dr_willis> 8086 ;)
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> but a number could not be patented, therefore, a word, pentium
[12:45] <bipul> 8086 is very old processor
[12:45] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  i bet apple could do it. ;)
[12:45] <dr_willis> very old? now you make me feel bad..
[12:46] <bipul> dr_willis, ? really oh i am sory it's very very new
[12:46]  * dr_willis goes back to using cpm on his c64
[12:51] <Cris22881> hello
[12:54] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:55] <et> hi. I'm looking to install ubuntu on unused disk space of a windows computer without a cd drive. If i read http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows correctly, the installer does not let me pick the unallocated space, it only lets me choose between drives. is this intended?
[12:56] <ThinkT510> et: avoid the windows installer, better to do it via usb
[12:56] <ThinkT510> !usb | et
[12:56] <hillary_l> how install bluetooth in ubuntu 11.10
[12:57] <et> ThinkT510: that requires an usb stick ;)
[12:57] <ThinkT510> hillary_l: it should be installed by default
[12:57] <et> but ok.
[12:57] <hillary_l> install but inactive
[12:57] <ThinkT510> hillary_l: sudo service bluetooth start
[13:03] <andrey_> Hi all. I need help with USB Microphone Desktop device. I have integrated microphone of webcam, but I need high quality sound... My webcam working! But my USB microfone maybe work with webcam?? Thanks.
[13:05] <andrey_> Here?
[13:07] <Cris2281> hello. Is there a way to install ubuntu on aspire z5610  and have full resolution on geforce g210m ?
[13:15] <scatterp> Hi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ?
[13:15] <Fuzzles> ly have unity now? is there a way to view my applications without search all the time?
[13:16] <obxhdx> Fuzzles, just add the desired app to the launcher
[13:16] <thomaspr> How to install adobe-flashplugin 10.2.159.1-0natty1 ?
[13:16] <Fuzzles> obxhdx, i know that i mean like a list to see what i have installed?
[13:17] <obxhdx> oh sorry, on the applications lens you can see all the installed apps… that's the only way I know
[13:18] <Fuzzles> obxhdx, im running unity 2d as my computer wont run 3d so i dont have that option i dont think
[13:19] <designbybeck> Fuzzles: have you tried 12.10 beta 2 yet ?
[13:19] <designbybeck> unity 2D went away Fuzzles, but that is a good thing because they have it working nicely in 12.10 for older machines
[13:20] <obxhdx> designbybeck, have you tried it yourself on an older machine?
[13:21] <designbybeck> yes obxhdx I'm running it on my netbook as well as I've done a live boot and install on an older HP
[13:21] <Fuzzles> designbybeck, what you mean went away?
[13:21] <designbybeck> the older HP only has 512mb
[13:21] <designbybeck> the netbooks has 1gb
[13:21] <designbybeck> let me see if I can find the post Fuzzles
[13:21] <Fuzzles> designbybeck, ok thanks
[13:21] <ThinkT510> Fuzzles: from 12.10 onwards there is no more unity2d
[13:21] <designbybeck> Fuzzles:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10
[13:22] <designbybeck> I've been quite please with Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2
[13:22] <designbybeck> only 16 more days to go ;)
[13:22] <obxhdx> designbybeck, interesting! do you have dedicated video card on your hp?
[13:22] <Fuzzles> designbybeck, so what am i going to do if they take it away :(
[13:22] <designbybeck> no obxhdx both video cards are from the mobo
[13:22] <obxhdx> cool!
[13:22] <designbybeck> it will just work Fuzzles
[13:23] <designbybeck> I think it is magic or something
[13:23] <Fuzzles> designbybeck, what unity 3d?
[13:23] <designbybeck> really try it out! go download the ISO
[13:23] <ThinkT510> !12.10
[13:23] <designbybeck> yes the new unity 3D has a rollback... using opengl iirc
[13:23] <obxhdx> actually, I'd recommend wo wait for the final release
[13:23] <obxhdx> before trying it
[13:23] <obxhdx> just a few more days
[13:24] <designbybeck> i meant as far as a liveboot test obxhdx you don't have to install it yet, but use go to #ubuntu+1 to talk more about it if you have more questions
[13:24] <designbybeck> I keep getting in trouble here ;)
[13:24] <Fuzzles> ye i was thinking about it any idea when its coming out and if i can upgrade properly withour breaking stuff i used linxmint for the past year and back then they had breakage when upgrading
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Fuzzles, do you have a / and /home partition?
[13:26] <thomaspr> How to install adobe-flashplugin 10.2.159.1-0natty1 ?
[13:27] <Kryptron> jhg
[13:27] <ThinkT510> !flash | thomaspr
[13:27] <Fuzzles> BluesKaj, i have 3 partitions ext4 extended and swap
[13:28] <L3top> thomaspr: You are looking for the last accellerated version I expect...
[13:28] <thomaspr> I tried gnash but it doesn't work with midori :-(
[13:28] <thomaspr> last adobe version crashes midori :-(
[13:30] <L3top> thomaspr:  http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html      link is hard to come across... good luck.
[13:34] <scatterp> Hi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install h
[13:34] <scatterp> ow ever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do
[13:34] <smjm> does anyone else have mono sound output in Bit Trip Runner?
[13:35] <ikonia> scatterp: what version of ubuntu are you running
[13:35] <smjm> does anyone else have mono sound output in OpenAL?
[13:37] <sebastian__> hi, anyone know how to disable mDNS? because mdns prevents me from pinging .local adresses
[13:38] <thomaspr> ltop: Site leads me to Flash Player Download Center for supported Linux Operating Systems, where I only find the actual 11.2. which crashes midori :-(
[13:39] <BluesKaj> thomaspr, download the latest linux flash player from adobe , extract it and place the libflashplayer.so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. get rid of the alternative flashplayer
[13:39] <L3top> thomaspr: scroll down... that is EVERY archived version of flash.
[13:39] <L3top> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
[13:40] <thomaspr> L3top, there is 11.2. and 10.1. - but seems to be windows versions ?
[13:40] <L3top> seems because it is a zip file?
[13:41] <thomaspr> as adobe writes left of the version names
[13:41] <primski> any knows anything about dnsmasq here? i'd like to set up mine dhcp-only, and just pass 8.8.8.8 as dns to clients, can this be done ?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> primski  try ##networking
[13:45] <primski> ok thanks
[13:45] <primski> double # ?
[13:45] <L3top> thomaspr: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp_10.2.159.1_archive.zip download it. Open it. See for yourself.
[13:45] <LoonaTick> Hi. Anyone know of a project that acts as a fileserver, that can save 100 million files in a redundant and sharded way? I would like to have it saved on 3 servers, be able to take backups and be able to grow to 10 billion files by adding more hardware
[13:46] <BluesKaj> primski, http://www.iceflatline.com/2010/02/how-to-install-and-configure-dnsmasq/
[13:46] <L3top> thomaspr: what I do, is just overwrite libflashplayer.so with the version I want for our hulu player, which brings back not only desktop interoperability but vdpau accel etc.
[13:46] <sab0> hi i am new in ubuntu, my wireless connection is showing disable, can any one please tell me how can i enable wireless in my ubuntu 10.04, thanks?
[13:47] <primski> ok thanks BluesKaj , i'll check it out
[13:48] <FlowRiser> sab0: do you have the right adapter driver module ?
[13:48] <FlowRiser> sab0: search for your own adapter model and see if anyone else is having problems
[13:48] <BluesKaj> primski, I use dns mask but I'm using a static IP  , otherwise I'd advise you further
[13:49] <FlowRiser> sab0: most usually someone already has a module for it
[13:50] <sab0> FlowRiser, not sure but its broadcom STA wireless and i installed the propriety driver
[13:50] <primski> ok BluesKaj no worries, i got it running, just fine tunning now, will figure it out eventually
[13:51] <BluesKaj> primski, right
[13:51] <FlowRiser> sab0, try older proprietary drivers if you can find any
[13:51] <FlowRiser> sab0, or upgrade to 12.04
[13:52] <sab0> FlowRiser, i want to stay 10.04 for some period then will try to upgrade, can you please tell me how will i find the old driver ???
[13:53] <FlowRiser> sab0, search on their website and on google
[13:54] <ThinkT510> !bcm | sab0
[13:54] <vitimiti> (^.^)/
[13:54] <FlowRiser> ThinkT510, nice!
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> sab0  10.04 server ?
[13:55] <Domincii> H-hey guys, I was advised earlier to install Windows and dual boot Ubuntu with it for the playing of gaimz, I have windows but I don't have a disk driver (I do, I just don't know how to wire it up properly) and even if I did I don't have a CD big enough to hold the .iso thingy, could I possibly move it to one of my HDD's/SSD's and boot it from there? there is stuff on all of those disks already though, would I have to remove it?
[13:56] <dr_willis> Domincii: you are asjing how to boot a windows iso file?
[13:56] <L3top> Domincii: do you have a thumbdrive? Very easy to install from USB assuming your bios will boot to USB.
[13:56] <designbybeck> Domincii:  what do you mean "disk driver" ?
[13:56] <Domincii> I don't have a thumb drive big enough to hold it sadly
[13:57]  * L3top assumes he means the ubuntu iso... 
[13:57] <L3top> guess not
[13:57] <L3top>  /join ##windows
[13:57] <FlowRiser> L3top, omg, satan has a channel!
[13:57] <dr_willis> grub2 can be configured to boot some iso files
[13:57] <ikonia> FlowRiser: please don't
[13:57] <ikonia> it makes this channel look stupid with that sort of comment
[13:57] <Domincii> Only my internal HDD, my external HDD, or my internal SSD, all of those have stuff already stored on them, if I try to boot a different OS from them?
[13:58] <L3top> Domincii: that is not a coherent question. What are you trying to install?
[13:58] <FlowRiser> ikonia, yeah, i guess you're right
[13:58] <Domincii> And to restate, I current have Ubuntu 12.04 install
[13:58] <Domincii> installed*
[13:58] <dr_willis> Domincii:  best would be go get a usb flash
[13:58] <Domincii> I want to install Windows 7
[13:58] <Domincii> I have it as an .iso
[13:58] <L3top> We do not support that here Domincii. /join ##windows
[13:58] <Domincii> I'm told to put it on CD and boot from CD
[13:59] <Domincii> Right
[13:59] <FlowRiser> Domincii, search for a lightweight win7 install
[13:59] <Domincii> I see, thanks
[13:59] <dr_willis> Domincii: you can image ut to usb
[13:59] <L3top> Domincii: be forewarned that windows is going to blow up the MBR and you will have to reinstall grub etc
[13:59] <L3top> Domincii: typically you should install windows first, then ubuntu.
[14:00] <ikonia> FlowRiser: what are you talking about a "light weight" windows install
[14:00] <ikonia> FlowRiser: all windows installs are the same - core OS
[14:00] <L3top> I assume he means like performance edition etc... which are not official windows releases and not licensed.
[14:00] <FlowRiser> L3top, yup
[14:01] <ikonia> right, so recommending illegal products, great
[14:01] <L3top> Cant suggest people violate law here FlowRiser.
[14:01] <Domincii> MBR? what is that?
[14:01] <ikonia> FlowRiser: please don't offer such suggestions
[14:01] <L3top> Domincii: Master Boot Record
[14:02] <Domincii> Aah, right
[14:02] <FlowRiser> ikonia, got it; It's funny, the only reason i installed Ubuntu was to hack into my school's server. From that moment i was hooked onto Ubuntu :D
[14:03] <L3top> Domincii: grub will allow you to boot into either windows or ubuntu or any number of things... windows boot loader only sees windows... it will not recognize your ubuntu install. Again I would recommend backing up your current /home directory, installing windows, then reinstalling ubuntu, and moving /home back or better yet, putting it on its own partition.
[14:04] <Domincii> Could you possibly help me to do that?
[14:04] <LorSamPau_w> L3top, win7/8 loader can be placed on the grub
[14:05] <L3top> yes LorSamPau_w. I am evidently not being clear. Windows boot loader will not give you an option to boot into anything other than windows OS, versus grub.
[14:05] <ThinkT510> LorSamPau_w: no, grub chainloads the windows bootloader
[14:06] <L3top> Domincii: cp /home off onto one of your other drives in the machine. Install windows... then I will help you do anything you like when you get back to the ubuntu install.
[14:07] <frybye> FlowRiser - I don't think you can expect help in commiting unlawfull acts on this irc channel.. btw I am a retired school IT professional.
[14:07] <chris92> L3top: wouldnt it be better to install windows, use livecd to chroot and just reinstall grub?
[14:08] <L3top> That can be done as well... but this will require resizing the ubuntu install, formatting it to ntfs... I was just thinking this way was less error prone.
[14:08] <L3top> chris92: ^
[14:08] <frybye> if you exclaim so clearly that your reason for this installation is to enable hacking into a school server - you are a bit off track here I feel...
[14:08] <Domincii> L3top I'm being told cpL omitting directory /home
[14:08] <bazhang> frybye, lets move on
[14:09] <frybye> bazhang - I can see your point but this kid is not in line expecting help he declares is for school server hacking that can bring a school to its knees sometimes...
[14:09] <chris92> L3top: ahh didnt know what his hard drive setup was
[14:09] <L3top> Domincii: sudo cp -r /home /path/to/drive
[14:10] <sarntam> Hi. I just installed the updates in Ubuntu 12.04 and grub-pc was updated. The update manager told me that there was a conflict in /etc/default/grub because I had previously modified that file, and now the update tried to override my changes. So I selected "show me a 3-way diff" in the combo box and clicked "next", but then the window just went away and I'm stuck with my old /etc/default/grub
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> or sudo rsync -avv --progress
[14:10] <sarntam> what can I do to see the changes that the update wanted to write to that file?
[14:10] <dballester> when booting, if grub says "Error, out of partition" what exactly it means?
[14:11] <L3top> good point MonkeyDust... I do not utilize that awesome utility enough.
[14:11] <DarsVaeda> hey I try to use an ant copy task but it will just not overwrite even overwrite=true is set, any idea?
[14:12] <L3top> afk
[14:13] <Domincii> L3top I've done that command, I moved it to my external HDD, when I input my password I didn't get a password correct or password incorrect message it just moved down to a blank space, however in my External HDD folder a file called System Volume Information was created
[14:14] <mariaf> hoolaaaaaaa
[14:14] <jiffe98> hmm, wondering why the version of nagios in the ubuntu 12.04 repos is several years old even though there's been stable versions since
[14:14] <mariaf> :(
[14:15] <ThinkT510> !latest | jiffe98
[14:15] <iDangerMouse> Mariaf you need help ?
[14:15] <jiffe98> ThinkT510: that's why I included the stable release statement
[14:16] <jiffe98> I just created a new machine for nagios and it turns out ubuntu installed the same version I installed on our current machine in 2008
[14:16] <bazhang> jiffe98, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro. you can compile or look for a PPA if you wish to bypass package management
[14:16] <ThinkT510> jiffe98: what was the current stable release during april?
[14:16] <jiffe98> ThinkT510: 3.3.1
[14:17] <nikitis> Can anyone tell me how to join the steam linux beta?
[14:17] <Domincii> If I format my boot drive will I be able to install my Windows .iso onto it and restart to install Windows or will it mess everything up?
[14:17] <chris92> nikitis: its a closed beta for 1000 people invited by valve
[14:17] <ThinkT510> jiffe98: and what is in the repos?
[14:17] <chris92> nikitis: at this point, its not possible to join it
[14:18] <jiffe98> ThinkT510: 3.2.3
[14:18] <frybye> nikitis - its a small by invitation beta as far as I know...
[14:18] <nikitis> chris92: I applied by email to them a couple of weeks ago,
[14:18] <chris92> nikitis: if you didnt receive an answer, then you probably aren't invited
[14:19] <nikitis> that would be sad.  I was a beta tester for original steam and have been wanting this since back then.
[14:19] <jiffe98> not that big a deal, I can install that myself if I need it, just trying to get a grasp of how these packages move along
[14:19] <chris92> nikitis: as far as I know, the beta didnt even start yet
[14:20] <nikitis> chris92: i know, but invites have to go out before
[14:20] <chris92> nikitis: they probably get sent on the same day via a steam gift + email
[14:21] <frybye> nikitis: here is an article ab out it (in German - use tlx service if needed.) http://www.golem.de/news/valve-steam-fuer-ubuntu-kommt-in-betaphase-1209-94794.html
[14:22] <L3top> Domincii: as you may have noticed I am going in and out. I am testing atm so I am going to continue to be in and out for the next 30 min or so.
[14:22] <Domincii> L3top no problem dude, thanks for your help so far, maybe I'll catch you later!
[14:23] <chris92> nikitis: there will be a signup form for the external beta, according to their blog
[14:23] <chris92> nikitis: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/
[14:24] <grek1> i write dolphin desktop action they run sh batsh script and i need ask user for parameter its  ok - kdialog  --inputbox ask but i dont have this reply in bash , i dont know how to read it - in mabnual i have "The string that is entered (or modified / accepted if default text is used) is returned on standard output. If the user chooses Cancel, no output is sent. " http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Shell_Scripting_with_KDE_
[14:24] <decci> How can I decompile .so file
[14:34] <diverdude> whenever i try to sudo apt-get install something i get dependency errors. Can i somehow ask apt to also install required dependencies?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> diverdude, sudo apt-get -f install
[14:36] <diverdude> BluesKaj: i think that will just force the install...i dont think that will install the dependencies
[14:37] <resure> What is the right way to completely remove package (including init scripts and all it's configs; bitlbee for example)?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> resure  try this    dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[14:38] <Perkabalo> Hi I'm having problems with ubuntu, just installed, everythings fine, but I want to be able to connect to it remotely, installed X11VNC Server, I'm able to connect, but I'm getting a blank screen.
[14:39] <compdoc> Perkabalo, a grey, checkerboard-like screen?
[14:39] <compdoc> or grid
[14:40] <Perkabalo> Nope, just black and white box on top of the scrren
[14:40] <compdoc> good, we need as many as we can get
[14:40] <BluesKaj> diverdude, which app dependencies
[14:41] <diverdude> BluesKaj: ohhh a lot...whenever i do apt-get install it says   Depends: libqt4-dbus (...) but is not going to be installed. and similar for other libs
[14:43] <os_> hi
[14:44] <os_> how can i start a session in a particular language
[14:44] <os_> ?
[14:45] <decci> How can I decompile .so file
[14:45] <layke__> Potentially silly question... But can I switch out my drive with ubuntu into any other system? ie.. I'm going to replace my mobo/cpu and ram.. but keep my SSD.
[14:46] <tsimpson> decci: decompile? in general you can't, though you can disassemble with objdump
[14:46] <rumpe1> layke__, yes, you can
[14:46] <llutz> layke__: shouldn't be a problem
[14:46] <layke__> Okay thanks. Years ago I had troubles with Windows, but wasn't sure if Ubuntu had similar hardware constraints in place.
[14:46] <compdoc> layke__, usually works fine
[14:46] <layke__> Don't know why they would exist anyway :)
[14:47] <rumpe1> layke__, except when you have a 64bit OS and try to put into a 32bit system...
[14:47] <layke__> Yeah of course rumpe1. I'll stick to the same 64,.
[14:47] <lledet> hi, how do i add name servers to /etc/resolv.conf so they will still be there when i reboot? i've tried several ways and nothing is working
[14:47] <compdoc> layke__, you might have issues with networking when it adds another nic
[14:47] <compdoc> it might not forget the old one
[14:47] <llutz> layke__: if you change graphics-adapter it might be a bit tricky too
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !resolvconf > llutz
[14:48] <lledet> !resolvconf > lledet
[14:48] <layke__> Yup cheers. Just wanted to make sure.
[14:48] <leaftwig> How do I get rid of the Brasero my system claims already runs but I don't see?
[14:49] <dballester> scenario: /dev/sda1 partition with root and /boot ( no boot partition ). Once system installed, tried to do /dev/sda1 smaller: fdisk /dev/sda and deleted partition 1, recreated with 50% of space. After reboot, when booting grub says "Error: out of partition"
[14:49] <dballester> and impossible to boot
[14:49] <leaftwig> nm got it killed
[14:49] <lledet> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:50] <Snaker> hi
[14:50] <dballester> in theory it should work if i respect the partitions first sector when recreating the partition
[14:50] <leaftwig> how long should it take to create an image checksum?
[14:51] <leaftwig> in brasero ._.
[14:51] <Snaker> how do you change the contets of a file? trying to add a line but  says "could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:51] <jrib> !sudo | Snaker
[14:51] <Perkabalo> compdoc, got it to work now
[14:51] <jrib> Snaker: what are you adding by the way?
[14:52] <Snaker> the tor package repository
[14:52] <compdoc> Perkabalo, I use vnc4server, so sorry I couldnt help
[14:53] <Snaker> i dont know much linux commands so i dont know what to type after sudo
[14:53] <chris92> snaker: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  sudo apt-get install tor
[14:53] <sachael> anyone notice that evince is getting slow as molasses lately? takes ages to render a page. the alternatives don't seem so good either...
[14:54] <Snaker> MonkeyDust: the repository thing provided with the system is not working correctly for some
[14:54] <Snaker> chris92: thanks will try it
[14:54] <llutz> Snaker: echo "deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org precise main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor.list
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  the rhe repository thing? not working correctly?
[14:55] <Snaker> MonkeyDust: yeah its out of date like 99% of the package thjhings in software center
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  ok, but out of the repos is not supported here
[14:56] <Snaker> llutz: should i enter what cchris92 said or what you just typed?
[14:56] <ThinkT510> Snaker: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:56] <Snaker> precise
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  bleeding edge tends to be unstable, that's why it's not in the repos
[14:56] <ThinkT510> Snaker: what exactly is out of date?
[14:56] <llutz> Snaker: i prefer to have single files for non-standard repos in sources.listd/* instead of a growing sources.list  file. it's your choice
[14:57] <Snaker> MonkeyDust: oh :O
[14:57] <Snaker> ThinkT510: torproject.org doesnt recommend installing tor  through software center
[14:58] <ThinkT510> !tor | Snaker
[14:59] <lolek> hello , who can check mu phpinfo ( corrcected configured webserver)
[15:00] <Snaker> llutz: ah, sounds like it requires a little knowledge about linux to do that. i dont mind that, but just going to register as anonymous as possible on some website so i installed ubuntu on a virtual machine and thought using tor would help a little. the mac address will stay the same but thats the best a newbie can do im guessing
[15:00] <BluesKaj> diverdude, this used to work in a lot of cases , sudo dpkg --configure -a , then , sudo apt-get install -f
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  the Ghostery plugin blocks all trackers on websites, it makes you kind of anonymoes too
[15:01] <Snaker> MonkeyDust: never ever heard of it, are they both good?
[15:01] <llutz> Snaker: the way to add a repository has nothing to do with the usage of tor. Tor is an important project, unfortunately still lacking servers/bandwidth
[15:02] <Snaker> ah ok
[15:02] <sab0> using ubuntu 10.04, wireless is showing disabled, can any one please help me to enable my wireless connection, adaptar is broadcom 4312...
[15:02] <Snaker> thanks for  the help guys
[15:02] <saml> hey,   xdg-open 'http://google.com'  opens firefox and chrome
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Snaker  http://www.ghostery.com/
[15:06] <ramprasadgk> hi
[15:06] <NcA> anybody know of an alternative to "keyboardcast" that actually works in 12.04?
[15:08] <arooni-mobile> ubuntu 12.04;  audio works fine... but when i plug the earphones in; i can't hear anything... how can i resolve this without restarting my computer??
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> "With keyboardcast you can send keystrokes to any number of windows you select simultaneously."
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> looks interesting
[15:08] <dballester> i used it to install Oracle RAC in several nodes, works like a champion
[15:09] <L3mce> !bcm43xx | sab0
[15:10] <sab0> L3mce, can you please tell me how to install that?
[15:10] <L3mce> sab0: Read the link.
[15:10] <diverdude> if i do dpkg -r virtualbox-4.2 the machine uninstalls virtualbox, but there is still /etc/init.d/vboxdrv and also the group called vboxusers. why is that not removed?
[15:10] <L3mce> sab0: Not being rude, just very busy, and it is all right there.
[15:10] <llutz> diverdude: dpkg -P
[15:11] <cfhowlett> sab0: disabled wifi usually means the hardware switch has been flipped.
[15:11] <thomaspr> L3top: yep, there in is the stuff for linux :-)
[15:12] <llutz> diverdude: use -P/--purge if you want configs to be removed too.
[15:12] <diverdude> llutz: aha ok...but group is still present
[15:12] <taskb4r> Xmonad or awesomewm? Oponions?
[15:12] <Kittens> which flavour of ubuntu is the lightest on resources?
[15:12] <taskb4r> *opinions
[15:12] <taskb4r> Lununtu
[15:13] <Kittens> I want to switch down to fluxbox from whatever, but I want a good start as not to fubar
[15:13] <thomaspr> BluesKaj: Having trouble with adobe's 11.2. :-(
[15:13] <Kittens> ah damn
[15:13] <jrib> Kittens: install minimal and then install only what you use :x
[15:13] <jrib> !minimal | Kittens
[15:13] <taskb4r> Yea. Even better
[15:13] <Kittens> jrib: thank you, that is so much better
[15:13] <qw> hello all
[15:14] <jrib> taskb4r: use both and stick with the one you prefer
[15:14] <qw> help me please
[15:14] <taskb4r> Install a lite wm like open box.
[15:14] <Domincii> I'm getting this error dpkg: error processing getlibs_2.06-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb (--install):
[15:14] <Domincii>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[15:14] <Domincii> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:14] <Domincii>  getlibs_2.06-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb
[15:14] <FloodBot1> Domincii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <diverdude> llutz: why is the voxusers group not being removed?
[15:14] <llutz> diverdude: afaik is that depending on the packages prerm/postrm-scripts if groups/users will be removed or not. not sure
[15:14] <jrib> Domincii: no idea what getlibs is
[15:14] <qw> now i am install Macubuntu and i would like install kVirc help me please
[15:14] <arooni-mobile> ubuntu 12.04;  audio works fine... but when i plug the earphones in; i can't hear anything... how can i resolve this without restarting my computer??
[15:15] <Domincii> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127848/wine-cant-find-gnome-keyring-pkcs11-so see the answer on this page
[15:15] <Kittens> I'm just going to be making an emulator box for my room so I can play retro games while my videos encode and such
[15:15] <diverdude> llutz: so basically my system could still be completely full of crap which was not properly removed
[15:15] <jrib> Domincii: what's your actual issue?
[15:16] <resure> Strange, ZNC doesn't connect to local bitlbee.
[15:16] <llutz> diverdude: basically yes, but unlikely in real.  one more problem with 3rd-party packages
[15:16] <Domincii> I'm trying to install a 32bit library via getlibs
[15:16] <Domincii> for WoW
[15:16] <jrib> Domincii: why?
[15:16] <Domincii> Because I can't run WoW without it freezing every two or three minutes
[15:16] <diverdude> llutz: thing is that 3rd party packages may be necessary because ubuntu is slow in getting new packs in the repo :(
[15:17] <resure> Domincii: it's break time
[15:17] <taskb4r> Kittens: checkout wah arcade. Its a nice frontend for all sorts of emus
[15:17] <Domincii> resure, pardon?
[15:17] <llutz> diverdude: well, there are rolling-release distros...
[15:17] <jrib> Domincii: are you following winehq appdb?
[15:17] <Domincii> yes
[15:17] <Domincii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256088/
[15:17] <diverdude> llutz: of ubuntu?
[15:17] <Domincii> i'm getting this message when i open wow via terminal
[15:17] <llutz> diverdude: nope
[15:17] <jrib> Domincii: can you link me to exactly what you are following at appdb?
[15:18] <resure> Domincii: that freezes are time for relaxing between small quests
[15:18] <Domincii> a 60 second freeze every couple of minutes makes the game essentially unplayable
[15:19] <Domincii> jrib http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24878
[15:19] <jrib> Domincii: is getlibs mentioned there?
[15:19] <Domincii> No, that's an answer I found here http://askubuntu.com/questions/127848/wine-cant-find-gnome-keyring-pkcs11-so
[15:20] <jrib> Domincii: so how are you getting from appdb to there...?
[15:20] <Domincii> google
[15:20] <jrib> Domincii: just follow appdb
[15:20] <Domincii> the appdb area didn't mention anything about the problem i've encountered
[15:20] <Domincii> i followed it to the letter for my install
[15:20] <Domincii> but there's nothing written about my specific problem
[15:21] <jrib> Domincii: great.  So what's your specific problem?
[15:22] <Domincii> Jrib, it's installed perfectly, it will open and I can log in etc, however it freezes every couple of minutes for a long period of time, usually 40-60 seconds
[15:23] <jrib> Domincii: there's talk about that on the appdb page
[15:24] <jrib> Domincii: what's the output of « apt-cache policy wine »?
[15:27] <Domincii> wine:
[15:27] <Domincii>   Installed: 1.5.14-0ubuntu1
[15:27] <Domincii>   Candidate: 1.5.14-0ubuntu1
[15:27] <Domincii>   Version table:
[15:27] <Domincii>  *** 1.5.14-0ubuntu1 0
[15:27] <FloodBot1> Domincii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <Domincii>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
p turns off all external monitors, what programs controls this binding? its not compiz...
[15:28] <max999> hi. i am using ubuntu 12 and cant get my logitech g9x mouse wheel working. i uses the evdev driver, at least xorg.0.log tells me
[15:28] <Domincii> jrib, where on the appdb page should I be looking?
[15:29] <jrib> Domincii: you can search the page for "freez"
[15:30] <Domincii> jrib, thanks, sorry.
[15:31] <fruitflies> i'm looking for an IRC client for Ubuntu that is as user-friendly and featured as LimeChat for OS X.  for example, just some pre-installed themes and automatic nick highlighting would be nice.  :)
[15:31] <ThinkT510> fruitflies: try xchat
[15:31] <Domincii> jrib, it's telling me to downgrade wine from 1.5 to 1.4, how can i do that?
[15:31] <jrib> Domincii: what's the output of « apt-cache policy wine »?
[15:32] <Domincii> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256151/
[15:32] <jrib> Domincii: use ppa-purge on that ppa you have there
[15:33] <max999> can anyone help me? why is ubuntu using my the 2 extra buttons as a mouse wheel on my logitech g9x mouse instead of the real wheel?
p is set by what program? it mirrors/turns off my monitors
[15:34] <fruitflies> Thinkt510: ok, ty
[15:35] <Domincii> jrib, done
[15:35] <jrib> Domincii: check that wine was downgraded
[15:37] <Slart> max999: from my limited experience with mice in linux it seems there are no difference between the mouse wheel and the other buttons.. rolling the wheel just sends repeated BUTTON 5 messages to the system (5 is just an example)
[15:37] <Kittens> is there a way to leave a message for someone in this channel?
[15:37] <Domincii> jrib according to wine --version it's still 1.5.14
[15:37] <hungryhubby> hey people not yet solved my problem with wired network still not working
[15:38] <jrib> Domincii: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy wine
[15:38] <Slart> max999: so you need to find a way of telling the system that these buttons are a scroll wheel and not regular buttons.. I think this used to be configured in xorg.conf but these days I'm not sure any more
[15:38] <cfhowlett> hungryhubby: restate the details
[15:38] <hungryhubby> can somebody solve this problem iam trying out........using natty
[15:39] <Domincii> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256170/
[15:39] <hungryhubby> output of some of errors here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1230368/
[15:39] <max999> slart: i found some hints to use  xorg.conf on google too but the lines people added there were not related to changing the way a button behaves
[15:39] <jrib> Domincii: you haven't removed the ppa using ppa-purge
[15:39] <crazydip> stupid gnome devs and their hidden key shortcuts! why oh why are they not in the keyboard shortcut app? :(
[15:39] <Domincii> I copied http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/
[15:39] <Domincii> and wrote sudo ppa-purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hungryhubby, have you run , sudo dhclient eth0 , or whatever your ethernet is called
[15:40] <hungryhubby> network is blocked....
[15:40] <Slart> max999: have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[15:40] <jrib> Domincii: and?  What was the output?  I don't think that's the proper syntax
[15:40] <Slart> max999: not sure if that's up to date but it might give you some ideas to try
[15:40] <hivar> hungryhubby: i wrote you pm
[15:40] <jj995> I've got a motherboard with only one SATA port, and both my DVD drive and hard drive are SATA -- to install Ubuntu from a live CD, can I boot with the DVD drive hooked up, let the system load up into memory, disconnect the DVD drive and hook up the harddrive?  will that work, or am I just going to risk shocking myself for no reason?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hungryhubby, run the command I posted and paste the output in pastebin pls
[15:41] <Domincii> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256171/
[15:41] <hivar>  jj995: why not install from USB?
[15:41] <hungryhubby> eth0 isnt showing up in the that....also when i trying to put MAC address inside wired device Mac number in network app iam getting grayed
[15:41] <Slart> jj995: no usb-ports where you could hook up an usb stick?
[15:41] <max999> slart: thanks that should help will try to remap
[15:41] <jrib> Domincii: did you read it?
[15:41] <fruitflies> jj995: afaik you need to read FROM the disc and write TO the hdd in order to install
[15:41] <fruitflies> at the same time
[15:42] <Slart> jj995: (oh and to answer your question.. I'm not sure but I think it needs the disc during the install)
[15:42] <Domincii> jrib, apt-update didnt do anything
[15:42] <jrib> Domincii: did you read what you just pasted?
[15:42] <jj995> Slart: thanks but my dumb motherboard doesn't appear to support booting from USB
[15:42] <STMelon_> ------------> sudo apt-get update
[15:42] <Domincii> jrib yes
[15:42] <jj995> it does support booting from network, but those instructions seem sort of complicated
[15:42] <jrib> Domincii: it says it couldn't remove the ppa you specified.  Try this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[15:42] <Slart> jj995: usb connected cd drive?
[15:43] <Slart> jj995: or you cant boot from that either?
[15:43] <Domincii> jrib it deleted loads of my stuff :(
[15:44] <jrib> Domincii: it shouldn't do that without asking for confirmation
[15:44] <Domincii> jrib it said it was going to clear space in wine, I'm unsure as to why it deleted Skype, that was installed independently of Wine
[15:45] <jrib> Domincii: I don't know.  You should be able to just install the packages back though
[15:45] <Domincii> jrib, never mind, it's all gone now (wine I mean) how do I reinstall as 1.4?
[15:46] <Praxi> on windows command line I can do dir sale*.txt, in ubuntu whats the equivalent of that with LS?  I figured a way around it doing ls | grep sale but thats not really the same and its a lot more typing
[15:47] <Pici> Praxi: ls sale*.txt
[15:47] <edve> hi ppl
[15:47] <Praxi> hmm it didn't work for me Pici, let me check to make sure it wasn't a boneheaded moment
[15:47] <max999> slart: i can sucessfully map other buttons on my mouse wheel like rightclick and i can map it to (obviously) use the function of mouse wheel scrolling down ur up (button 4 / 5) but i didnt figure out yet, how to just make it use the scroll
[15:48] <Pici> Praxi: Remember that Linux is case sensitive.  Are you sure that your filenames aren't mixed case?
[15:48] <Praxi> ahh heres the problem, so in windows that command is 1 depth, in ubuntu its giving me stuff in sub folders and its organized badly
[15:48] <jrib> Domincii: just installing wine should installing 1.4
[15:48] <jrib> -ing
[15:48] <Praxi> guess I should say sub directories before someone stones me
[15:49] <Pumpkin-> Pici: ls sale*.txt will generally work, but the way it works in windows/linux is quite different. In windows, the program gets passed the *, and the program is responsible for managing that. In linux, when you do "ls sale*.txt", ls gets passed the arguments for EVERYTHING that matches it, so for example "ls *" on a directory with files "a", "b", "c" and a directory called "d" would be the same as "ls a b c d"
[15:50] <Slart> max999: I've got no good answers for you.. it's been to long since I had to mess with the mouse buttons.. the last versions of ubuntu just got it working for me out of the box.. you can use xev to see what mouse button messages are sent when you click different stuff.. after that I guess googling and asking here might be your best options
[15:50] <Pumpkin-> since d is a directory, and "ls d" would list the contents of that directory, thats what you will get
[15:50] <Pici> Pumpkin-: I'm aware, but as Praxi said sale*.txt, I figured that it wouldn't match a directory name.
[15:50] <Pumpkin-> I meant Praxi :)
[15:50] <Pumpkin-> damn you for both having names that start with P
[15:51] <Pumpkin-> it is something I find a lot of people struggle with at first
[15:51] <qw[Russian]> hello people
[15:51] <Praxi> LOL
[15:51] <qw[Russian]> help me plea
[15:51] <jrib> Praxi: you probably just want ls -d
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> qw[Russian]  start with a question
[15:52] <Pici> Praxi: find might also do what you want if you have files with different cases, something like: find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -iname "file*txt"
[15:52] <Praxi> hmm yes in the particular case I'm working on now, it is directories.  so -d is directory?
[15:52] <qw[Russian]> i would like install in Chromium Flash player
[15:52] <qw[Russian]> help me please
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !flash
[15:52] <twitchie> !help | qw[Russian]
[15:52] <Praxi> ya I'm pretty familiar with case problems Pici, I'm use to find / -iname hehe
[15:52] <qw[Russian]> maybe use command in konsole?
[15:53] <jrib> Praxi: « ls directory » will list the contents of directory.  « ls -d directory » will just return "directory" (ls won't enter into the directory and list its contents)
[15:53] <twitchie> 37 ping ftw
[15:54] <scarrs> I need a hand pls... I changed /etc/apache2/ports.conf to reflect the port I haveopen in my firewall but apache is not working (duh)
[15:54] <Praxi> I have a big directory couple hundred items, mostly folders at the root, few files, If I was on windows and did dir sale* it would show me directories and files, but only at the root.  How can I repeat that?  on my big directory if I do ls sale* I get everything in the subdirectories also, making the listing worse.  the -d helped, just trying to future proof :)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> qw[Russian], which desktop are you using , for unity install ubuntu-restricted-extras, for kde , kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:55] <cire> Are there any webcams to buy with native kernel support? Without the need for compiling a module etc.
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> cire  wrong channel
[15:55] <Slart> cire: there used to be a site listing different webcams and how well they work.. can't rememeber the url though
[15:55] <Slart> !webcam
[15:55] <jrib> Praxi: future proof what?  What exactly are you doing with the listing?
[15:56] <Praxi> if I want a list of files and directories in the root
[15:56] <jrib> Praxi: ls
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> or ls /
[15:56] <cire> Thank you, I will have a look thewre
[15:56] <jrib> Praxi: or « ls -a » if you want the hidden ones too
[15:56] <Praxi> ls sale* returns things from all subdirectories
[15:56] <Slart> Praxi: why not go with  ls | grep -i "sale*"
[15:56] <qw[Russian]> i am not understand
[15:56] <jrib> Praxi: why are you passing "sale*" if you want all the files and directories in the root?
[15:57] <Slart> Praxi: it might seem nasty and long but it's very flexible
[15:57] <Praxi> I want the windows behavior of dir sale* where it returns things matching sale from the current directory.  Sorry my root was a misnomer
[15:57] <jrib> Praxi: ls -d sale*
[15:57] <Praxi> thats only directories though isn't it?
[15:57] <jrib> Praxi: no
[15:57] <Praxi> ahh!
[15:58] <confusedTom> if i have different repositories in my sources.list that offer the same program, how do I chose which version gets installed?
[15:58] <Praxi> thanks all! :)
[15:58] <jjb123> Hey everyone, quick question. How can I install an application from the repository as a different user? I want to install gitolite and have it run under a "git" user that I made. Any ideas?
[15:58] <Praxi> scarrs, I think your in the wrong channel for that, but have you checked your virtual directories in apache2.conf or any other conf files?
[15:59] <Praxi> jjb123, su?
[15:59] <Pici> jjb123: Unless the package was already configured to do that at install time, you can't. You'll just have to install and then change the configuration afterwards.
[15:59] <lsj8925> ?
[16:00] <jjb123> Pici: Hum, could I use su to log in as that user and then apt-get install from there?
[16:00] <tryy3> is it possible to transfare a file from windows 7 to ubuntu when you dual-boot?
[16:00] <Pici> jjb123: apt-get installs stuff for the entire system, it has nothing to do with what user your run it as.
[16:00] <ThinkT510> tryy3: yes, mount the windows partition
[16:00] <lsj8925> I want to learn python,which channel should i go?
[16:00] <jrib> lsj8925: take one guess :)
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> tryy3  if you're in ubuntu, mount the ntfs partition, cp the files you need
[16:00] <Praxi> tryy3, ubuntu can mount the windows partition, not so much if you want windows to see the file
[16:01] <scarrs> Praxi: ty but I just solved my problem :)
[16:01] <jrib> lsj8925: (#python should be your guess)
[16:01] <ThinkT510> lsj8925: you've been told multiple times: /join #python
[16:01] <lsj8925> o
[16:01] <Praxi> was I close scarrs? :)
[16:01] <scarrs> Praxi: yes you were
[16:01] <Praxi> woot!
[16:01] <scarrs> :P
[16:02] <tryy3> ah okej thanks guys!
[16:02] <grandal_prime> soooo im trying to install things from playdeb.net
[16:03] <grandal_prime> the install this now button brings up the dialog window "Launch Application"
[16:03] <grandal_prime> how do i edit what is available in that dialog box..cause the stuff that is in there..it does not work..none of it
[16:04] <myhero> can anyone guide me for any yahoo webcam client for ubuntu ?? pidgin and empathy do not support video over yahoo protocol
[16:04] <ThinkT510> grandal_prime: we don't support ppas here, ask in the playdeb forums
[16:04] <grandal_prime> and "save as download"  is not in the list...gdebi.gtk does notghint.
[16:04] <grandal_prime> right...i want to know about the Launch application dialog box...where do i adjust that info.
[16:05] <myhero> anyone help ??
[16:05] <lsj8925> ThinkT510: but it shows  I have no  right to speak
[16:05] <cdavis> How can I get network-manager to not manage eth1 and eth2?
[16:05] <twmb> where does the /usr/games come from in my path?
[16:05] <ThinkT510> !register | lsj8925
[16:06] <lsj8925> ok! i will try it.
[16:06] <myhero> help
[16:07] <ikonia> myhero: you need to communicate better than tat
[16:07] <myhero> ikonia: what ??
[16:07] <ikonia> myhero: just saying "help" every 45 seconds won't help
[16:07] <myhero> ikonia: guide me for any yahoo webcam client for ubuntu ?? pidgin and empathy do not support video over yahoo protocol
[16:08] <Cristian2281> hello. Can anyone help  boot ubuntu in normal mode without bumblebee? I have only one graphic card (geforce g210M) and with nvidia-current all I get are artifacts
[16:08] <ikonia> myhero: I don't know if yahoo has a webcam client for linux
[16:08] <myhero> ikonia: yahoo doesn't has any client for any linux....but i am asking if any other client..\
[16:08] <ikonia> myhero: then no, it's a closed source protocol
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> myhero  there's Gyachi, i'm not familiar with it, tho
[16:09] <paulus68> I have 2 pc's connected to 2 routers on the same network with 2 different subnets I can ssh from my laptop 192.168.1.x to my server which is on 192.168.178.x but I am not able to ssh from my server into my laptop I get the error message Network is unreachable
[16:09] <myhero> ikonia: i have googled some other clients supporting video over yahoo protocol but they have .tar.bz2....can u help in installing from tarball
[16:10] <tryy3> hi, i trying to boot my desktop with a ubuntu installation CD and its just blinking a _ in left upper corner and the fan is going on alot, is this normal?
[16:10] <edve> anyone is good with bind9 ?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> myhero  Gyachi has a .deb, but the newest seems to be for Karmic
[16:11] <myhero> MonkeyDust: yes i googled gyachi just now but it has .tar.bz2 and not deb...can you help in installing the tarball...newest is v1.2.11 released 2011-09-03
[16:12] <myhero> ikonia: look my msg to MonkeyDust
[16:12] <ikonia> why ?
[16:12] <tryy3> hi, i trying to boot my desktop with a ubuntu installation CD and its just blinking a _ in left upper corner and the fan is going on alot, is this normal?
[16:13] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ikonia i also found out OpenYMSG and GenY supporting video over yahoo protocol....can you help in installing the tarball ?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | tryy3 you mean this?
[16:14] <qw[Russian]> i am download install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz help me please install
[16:14] <GirlyGIrl> qw[Russian]: You don't need that, do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in terminal
[16:15] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ikonia help in installing tarball
[16:15] <tryy3> MonkeyDust ubottu dont think so, it just got a blinking _ and i cant type anything
[16:15] <Benkinooby> hi, i wanted to install libreoffice on ubuntu 10.04 and got this from commandline aptitude: No candidate version found for libreoffice Do i need a ppa for libre office on ubuntu 10.04?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> GirlyGIrl , he just does what he wants then when it screws up , pleads for help
[16:16] <iDangerMouse> Kaj is a tree not ?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> iDangerMouse, it's my first name
[16:17] <iDangerMouse> Okay a tree in Iran too
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> tryy3  tryy3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132  <-- scroll down to nomodeset
[16:18] <BluesKaj> iDangerMouse, in swedish it rhymes with sky
[16:19] <confusedTom> if i have different repositories in my sources.list that offer the same program, how do I chose which version gets installed?
[16:19] <_yac_> i'm fiddling with xen in ubuntu server 12.04. i have a working bridged network setup but want to try a routed setup. is it safe for the dom0's networking to alter the xend-config.sxp to this effect? also comment out xenbr0 and comment back in the standard eth0 fare. pifalls?
[16:19] <_yac_> s/pifalls/pitfalls
[16:19] <BluesKaj> hence , the nick
[16:19] <iDangerMouse> Blueskaj Farsi is apline tree and ah Sweden is heaven on earth
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> _yac_  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:20] <BluesKaj> iDangerMouse, well i live in Canada now
[16:20] <iDangerMouse> Blueskaj so do I Vaughan Ontario
[16:20] <_yac_> thanks MonkeyDust
[16:21] <BluesKaj> iDangerMouse, interesting , are you visiting in pakistan atm
[16:21] <iDangerMouse> Blueskaj till December !
[16:24] <keep_> ./quit
[16:27] <pato> alguien sabe como instalar una impresora HP en ubuntu
[16:27] <Como|work> no I will not make out with you
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:30] <zauberparacelsus> is there any way to throttle the Ubuntu update manager's bandwidth usage?  It's downloading updates and being way too greedy with bandwidth.  I'm getting ping times of at least 1600 milliseconds right now because of it.
[16:32] <paolino73> ciao
[16:32] <paolino73> list
[16:33] <dfadeur> yop
[16:34] <qw[Russian]> GirlyGirl http://pastebin.com/fG58fiyd
[16:35] <jake_> Hi
[16:35] <jake_> Can someone help me?
[16:35] <LoonaTick> zauberparacelsus: If you use the cli, trickle
[16:35] <zauberparacelsus> LoonaTick: not using the CLI, it's the GUI version
[16:35] <AlonzoTG> I hate linux
[16:35] <lsj8925> why
[16:35] <lsj8925> AlonzoTG: why
[16:35] <AlonzoTG> My main computer speakers go down, so I try to listen to Alex Jones on my eeepc...
[16:36] <confusedTom> thanks for not helping.
[16:36] <AlonzoTG> then I discovered that no sound driver was loaded.
[16:36] <AlonzoTG> even though its just a basic intel chipset.
[16:36] <AlonzoTG> no sound. =(
[16:36] <GirlyGIrl> qw[Russian]: Ubuntu maverick is not supported any more, update to a newer release
[16:36] <AlonzoTG> no usable utilities either.
[16:36] <GirlyGIrl> !eol | qw[Russian]
[16:36] <lsj8925> sorry to hear that
[16:37] <AlonzoTG> and its slow to the point of being unusable...
[16:37] <AlonzoTG> Yes it's an early model eeepc,
[16:37] <LoonaTick> zauberparacelsus: Then I don't know, sorry. Perhaps you can change the path to the thing in your menu bar and still add trickle? I never tried but think trickle should also work for GUI applications
[16:37] <AlonzoTG> but I have a much older, much slower DOS computer that is blistering fast in comparison...
[16:37] <zauberparacelsus> kk
[16:37] <cdavis> How can I get network-manager to not manage eth1 and eth2?
[16:39] <mneptok> AlonzoTG: using Ubuntu? or a derivative?
[16:39] <qw[Russian]> help me please update system
[16:39] <AlonzoTG> yeah, ubuntu, it was hard getting it on a 4 gb root partition (+ 8gb USB), but I managed.
[16:39] <brontosaurusrex> qw[Russian], sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:40] <truexfan81> why would a keyring pass created in mate not be accepted in xfce?
[16:40] <mneptok> AlonzoTG: there used to be Ubuntu Netbook Remix for netbooks. the full Ubuntu desktop is going to perform a la Windows 7. use Lubuntu or Xubuntu, or learn enough to do a minimal install and install a very lightweight desktop environment.
[16:41] <Domincii> Could someone give me some help with POL? or is there an appropriate irc for that?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> what's POL?
[16:43] <myhero> MonkeyDust: how to other channel with this channel opened  ?
[16:43] <mneptok> Domincii: /join #playonlinux
[16:43] <myhero> how to join*
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> myhero  type /join #other_channel
[16:44] <myhero> MonkeyDust: will this channel be closed or it will also be opened side by side ?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> myhero  side by side
[16:45] <myhero> MonkeyDust: yea did it...it opened side by side....thnx
[16:46] <myhero> MonkeyDust: what is this - [22:15] BluesKaj [BluesKaj@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-phualngqclvqqmgp] requested CTCP VERSION from myhero: ??
[16:47] <BluesKaj> it tells me which irc client you are running , myhero
[16:47] <myhero> BluesKaj: ok...i am on browser webchat irc
[16:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:48] <myhero> is there any guide on how to install from tarball and how to install ppa ?
[16:48] <OnlyMAJ> i can't use vpn & socks.which proxy you offer ??
[16:48] <OnlyMAJ> i can't use vpn & socks.which proxy you offer ??
[16:49] <reed> what filesystem on SSD? seems that it makes no difference, just double checking
[16:49] <myhero> BluesKaj: is there any guide on how to install from tarball and how to install ppa ?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !ppa | myhero
[16:51] <myhero> !addppa
[16:52] <BluesKaj> !tar | myhero
[16:52] <myhero> BluesKaj: but how to install from tarball ?
[16:53] <reed> myhero, it depends on the content of the tarball
[16:53] <reed> myhero, a tarball is like a zip file, it may contain a binary executable or source code that needs to be built
[16:54] <BluesKaj> myhero, there is usually a readme file, an install text file to guide installation
[16:55] <myhero> reed: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gyachi/ BluesKaj this is the tarball...i want to install it....i am doing as said in the install text file but still problems
[16:55] <BluesKaj> myhero, if you can find a deb version of the same file it would be much easier that having to compile
[16:56] <myhero> BluesKaj: i looked for deb but looks like its not available
[16:57] <llutz> myhero: " Last Update: 2011-09-03" are you sure you want to use that?
[16:57] <reed> an IRC client?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> myhero, then you need to install build-essential and  perhaps cmake as well , these are required to compile apps from source
[16:57] <llutz> !compile | myhero
[16:57] <llutz> !checkinstall | myhero
[16:58] <AndChat|336756> you guys eating?
[16:59] <myhero> llutz: BluesKaj if u can find any newer pre compiled versions coz i looked for them but to no avail. and i need to learn this tarball coz everytime it comes from somewhere or the other
[16:59] <hal1> could someone tell me the best way to disable avahi, please?
[17:00] <jticket> Speech disabled.
[17:00] <myhero> llutz: BluesKaj - MonkeyDust recommended a deb version but its too old and for karmic
[17:01] <BluesKaj> myhero, like i said extract the file and look for the "Readme" and "Install" text files in the extracted folder , these are very straight forward instructions and easy to follow
[17:01] <sayers> sudo dpkg -i test.deb
[17:02] <jticket> Disabled freenode speech.
[17:02] <myhero> also one question - does compiling app on local system gives a better and smoother performing app as compared to pre-compiled deb or ppa build ?
[17:02] <myhero> i do sudo dpkg -E -G -i *.deb
[17:03] <bekks> myhero: No.
[17:03] <BluesKaj> myhero, not really , they're just packaged differently , unless of course one is newer than the other
[17:03] <myhero> bekks: no for what ? my question or my pkg command option ?
[17:03] <myhero> dpkg*
[17:04] <myhero> BluesKaj: ok
[17:04] <bekks> myhero: On your question
[17:04] <myhero> ok
[17:06] <Gycklarn> Is anyone here good with shell scripting? I want to write an "if" statements like the following pseudo-code: "if $variable is either A, B org C, then..." Anyone know the easiest way to do this?
[17:07] <reed> myhero, you don't need to build from source in modern systems... it's time wasted, unless you're learning how to build from source :)
[17:07] <Gycklarn> s/org/or
[17:07] <ikonia> Gycklarn: a "case"
[17:07] <brontosaurusrex> Gycklarn, /j #bash
[17:07] <Gycklarn> ikonia, ty. brontosaurusrex, I'll take a look, thanks!
[17:08] <myhero> reed: i really wanna learn coz where ever you go...its not necessary that you will have deb or ppa but you will get the tarball for sure
[17:08] <reed> myhero, never had to deal with a tarball since 1998
[17:09] <reed> myhero, modern distributions have all the software you need :) and it comes in a very nice 'app store' fashion
[17:09] <reed> if the software is not packaged is usually a good sign that it's crap
[17:09] <myhero> reed: problem is that apps get updated by makers and on their site with tarball but it stays outdated on repos for a long time, so its looking like everyone should have the knowledge of handling tarball
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> reed, Could you generalize the fud just a little more to convince everyone.
[17:10] <azm> hello,  Itried to isntall ubuntu twice on different partitions andeven crearted separate /boot but after installation it alawys loads windows 7
[17:10] <azm> without any grub
[17:11] <azm> I tried the chroot metoohd/live cd method
[17:11] <azm> everything
[17:11] <myhero> reed: yea you are right bu this is not necessary on all occassions...like if you want winrar for ubuntu and when you go on their site then there is no deb or ppa available but what you get is tarball
[17:11] <azm> when I installed ubuntu in past it always automatucally installed grub
[17:11] <azm> why not now ?
[17:12] <reed> myhero, that's my point, you don't need winrar
[17:12] <reed> myhero, install unrar and all your rars will uncompress with the normal compress application from gnome/kde whatever
[17:12] <RiXtEr> Hello all, is there a way through apt to upgrade to 12.10 yet?
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> azm, download this to a live cd, run the bootinfo summary and post the http where its at. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:14] <myhero> reed: you don't need it and maybe some others too...but think in general.....i have switched from win to linux recently and i love winrar so besides i don't need it but stilli want to keep it....just feels a lil bit at home win feeling
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> azm, The bootscript will cut through the 20 questions and outline your setup so we can actually help.
[17:15] <reed> myhero, nobody needs winrar on Ubuntu! that's my point. If it's not packaged, it's not needed because Ubuntu has its own native/better way to deal with that
[17:15] <reed> myhero, I understood you switched recently, you need to learn the new way :)
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> RiXtEr, I don't believe so, you might ask on the development channel #ubuntu+1
[17:16] <reed> and the new way is: search for software in the software center, not on google... Ubuntu has it all
[17:16] <RiXtEr> wilee-nilee, thanks.
[17:16] <myhero> reed: yes anyways thats the whole reason behind learning tarball
[17:17] <myhero> reed: winrar was just an example
[17:17] <reed> myhero, tarball are *not* necessary either
[17:17] <reed> myhero, you need an IRC client: xchat-gnome
[17:17] <myhero> reed: means ?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> myhero  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[17:17] <reed> myhero, if you're studying how to develop software then go ahead and start tooling with source code
[17:18] <myhero> reed: why ? is this webchat not enough ? i have irssi installed
[17:18] <reed> myhero, but if you just need an IRC client, a compress/uncompress for rar files, anything search in  the Software Center
[17:19] <jaslap> msg nickserv identify 911my2rightlegs
[17:19] <reed> if that fails, search on Google but whatever you find, if it's not packaged for Ubuntu usually it means it's bad software or too young to be trusted
[17:19] <reed> jaslap, change your password :)
[17:19] <jaslap> :(
[17:19] <gordonjcp> jaslap: fayle
[17:20] <myhero> reed: ok i get your point
[17:20] <gordonjcp> jaslap: fwiw I've never been convinced about 911s either
[17:20] <gordonjcp> jaslap: or any other sort of Porsche
[17:21] <jaslap> eh while that is a nice car, it's irrelevant
[17:25] <qw[Russian]> help me i didn't see in desktop gadjet
[17:26] <jaslap> well, it's a good thing that wasn
[17:26] <jaslap> t
[17:26] <jaslap> my bank password :)
[17:30] <martin__2> hi :0
[17:30] <martin__2> * :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> qw[Russian], until you learn to follow suggestions/instructions , most prople aren't going to help you since you don't follow them the first time.
[17:31] <Kittens> sure do love this slow installation
[17:31] <Kittens> oh well
[17:33] <martin__2> quit
[17:37] <Lord_Zero> whats the difference between /etc/motd and /run/motd?
[17:37] <doug1> Anyone know how I can get dch to turn 1.0.9 into 1.0.10...? You wouldn't think it's hard, but ...
[17:37] <Lord_Zero> doug1: find a .deb and instal it with dpkg perhaps?
[17:38] <doug1> Lord_Zero: Sorry?
[17:40] <edgy> Hi, I want to configure my laptop as a hotspot for my mobile so I from network options I added a new connection and made it share and now it got an ip address, but when I scan from my mobile I don't see it
[17:40] <trism> doug1: dch -v 1.0.10; ? the manpage says it should increment with -i for native packages but I'm still getting ubuntu1 in precise so not sure otherwise
[17:42] <infosociety> good afternoon everyone.
[17:42] <infosociety> does anyone have time to help me for a minute?
[17:43] <infosociety> quick question about removing a file from my source list
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> infosociety, This channel works as ask the specific question not a plea for help.
[17:44] <infosociety> fair enough.
[17:44] <infosociety> unable to delete a file from etc/sources.list.d/
[17:44] <doug1> trism: yeah, -i does weird stuff.
[17:44] <doug1> trism: it wants to turn 1.0.9 into 1.0.9ubuntu1 ....
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> infosociety, several methods here. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html
[17:46] <g0hww> hiya. I'm using 12.04 on x86_64.  i've been experiencing crackling sounds when playing Kerbal Space Program in wine for a while, but their quite faint compared to the roar of rocket engines and explosions, so I've not been to bothered by them.  Now I'm feeding my ham radio transmitter  with with soundcard generated  audio and it is being transmitted along with significant crackling sounds.  I've read reports of this issue on 64 bit systems
[17:46] <g0hww> , but seen no conclusive solutions.  Any ideas?
[17:46] <infosociety> alright, tyvm will start to read and hopefully it will answer my question.. very much appreciated.
[17:48] <xocolatl_> hi, I have an interesting problem.  since yesterday (or maybe the day before) my ubuntu 12.04 won't keep the screen off.  I leave the lid up on my laptop and after a few minutes of inactivity the screen goes out (normal) but then a minute later it comes back on (not normal), and then off and on again forever.  please help fix
[17:48] <xocolatl_> I do not recall changing any settings recently
[17:48] <xocolatl_> perhaps a recent unity update did it?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> xocolatl_
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> \
[17:50] <xocolatl_> wilee-nilee, yes?
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> xocolatl_ sorry mistaken enter press. ;)
[17:51] <xocolatl_> no problem.  do you have any idea what I can look at for this problem?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> xocolatl_, Not really sorry.
[17:51] <xocolatl_> kthx
[17:52] <doug1> God knows why ubuntu packaging is so damned complicated.
[17:53] <crizis> doug1,  checkinstall -D -y = easy :D
[17:53] <snype> hi
[17:53] <snype> where can i find some hacker help?
[17:53] <xangua> nycsd: wrong channel, wrong network :)
[17:54] <repigoz> МДК
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> snype, be prepared to be pwnd if you do. ;)
[17:54] <doug1> crizis: Dunno what that is.
[17:55] <fluitfries> i am using UNetBootin to make a USB with Edubuntu.  can someone please tell me what partition scheme and filesystem type i need to have on the USB??
[17:55] <LoOoD> Does anyone know why this part of the preseed for raid isn't picking up the mount options? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256483/
[17:55] <crizis> doug1, doesn't really make "proper" packages with dependensies, but good for your own usage
[17:55] <crizis> doug1, replace 'make install' with 'checkinstall -D -y' and you get .deb out of it
[17:56] <xangua> fluitfries: fat32 should be enought, remember Unetbootin will wipe all the data in the usb stick
[17:58] <fluitfries> xangua, master boot record, and fat32?
[17:58] <fluitfries> xangua, unetbootin doesn't seem to like my ubuntu-created ntfs :(
[18:00] <oopepe> Hi, i dont have access to ubuntu atm. Could someone post the /etc/default/tomcat7 file somewhere please?
[18:01] <Doxin> what's the idiom for compiling something in a build dir? I recal cding to the build dir and then invoking make in the source dir somehow. anyone got any pointers?
[18:01] <doug1> crizis: oh... awesome.... yet another toolchain...
[18:02] <bobweaver> Doxin,  what  are you using ? cmake autotools ?
[18:03] <Doxin> bobweaver: i'm not quite sure, it's not my code.
[18:04] <Doxin> bobweaver: what I'd usually do is just ./configure; make;
[18:04] <bobweaver> Doxin,  it is good to keep the build dir clean for when you want to package easy way with cmake would be to go to source dir and mkdir build ; cd build  ; cmake ../  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/path_were_it_installs       then you can clean up with a simple rm build
[18:05] <bobweaver> Doxin,  where did you get the code ?
[18:05] <bobweaver> Doxin,  can I see the it ?
[18:05] <Doxin> bobweaver: trying to compile gcc at the moment if it helps
[18:05] <Doxin> bobweaver: so ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/mirror/languages/gcc/releases/gcc-4.7.2/gcc-4.7.2.tar.bz2 [large download]
[18:06] <ikonia> Doxin: why are you building gcc ?
[18:06] <bobweaver> What you are building gcc ? why ?
[18:06] <Doxin> ikonia: because I can.
[18:06] <ikonia> Doxin: why ?
[18:06] <Gallomimia> excuse me i'm trying to get a quick answer about the better-than-cron services such as inetd available in ubuntu server 12.04. more likely i just want to know what's installed by default
[18:06] <ikonia> Doxin: and you can't, that's why you're asking in here
[18:06] <gyre007> can anyone tell me why in the heck does the following logrotate not work...Im banging my head against the table...https://gist.github.com/3821836
[18:06] <Doxin> ikonia: I can, I just need some help on a specific nicety
[18:06] <luist> where can i put a script to run on startup?
[18:06] <ikonia> Doxin: why are you doing this ?
[18:06] <gyre007> running out of ideas...even when I force it by running logrotate mongodb....still the mongo file is not rotated
[18:07] <ikonia> Doxin: gcc is pacakged for ubuntu
[18:07] <gyre007> arrgh
[18:07] <bobweaver> Doxin,  you can install from repo  and  sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[18:07] <ikonia> Doxin: you can just install the package
[18:07] <Gallomimia> also i have a failure in motd- service and don't understand how to fix
[18:07] <Doxin> ikonia: I know,
[18:07] <Doxin> ikonia: I *want* to compile gcc
[18:07] <ikonia> Doxin: why ?
[18:07] <Gallomimia> luist: you COULD make a crontab that says @restart command
[18:07] <Doxin> ikonia: because why not?
[18:07] <ikonia> Doxin: for what purpose, it can have a serious impact onyour machine
[18:07] <ikonia> Doxin: why do something like that for no-reason, you must have a reason
[18:07] <Doxin> ikonia: I'll make sure to use a chroot
[18:08] <bobweaver> ikonia,  +1 on the impact that it can have
[18:08] <ikonia> Doxin: why do this though ? what value do you hope to get
[18:08] <Gallomimia> no that's a terrible premise
[18:08] <Doxin> ikonia: why is this important?
[18:08] <Gallomimia> if you want to do something for the sake of doing it do it.
[18:08] <luist> Gallomimia: well what about rc.d? isnt it better?
[18:08] <ikonia> Doxin: why can you just not answer as people with experience may have other options if you explain what you are trying to do and why
[18:08] <lcars47> anyone know where I can get a voice stress analysis package?
[18:08] <Doxin> ikonia: I'm trying to compile gcc.
[18:08] <ikonia> Doxin: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[18:08] <Doxin> ikonia: 12
[18:08] <ikonia> Doxin: why are you trying to build gcc, to what end ?
[18:09] <ikonia> !info gcc
[18:09] <Doxin> ikonia: for fun and for profit
[18:09] <ikonia> Doxin: please give a real answer, I don't know why you are being so evasive
[18:09] <Gallomimia> and also inet.d and someone suggested using xinetd which i've dabbled in on an old mac distro
[18:09] <Doxin> ikonia: for the same reason I built a jet engine in my back yard. I'm not being evasive, I have no other reason than "because why not".
[18:10] <Gallomimia> its a good reason.
[18:10] <ikonia> Doxin: you're on your own then, people don't just do this for no-reason
[18:10] <Gallomimia> awesome attitude
[18:10] <ikonia> there must be something , a learning exercise, a benifit you think you may get
[18:10] <Gallomimia> we need more people like ikonia on irc
[18:10] <lcars47> I do crazy stuff for no reason also.
[18:10] <Doxin> ikonia: WHY do you need to know this? it is in no way relevant to the answer
[18:10] <Gallomimia> ikonia: everything you do is a learning experience. even reading this channel
[18:11] <Doxin> ikonia: it has no benefit besides knowing how to do it.
[18:11] <bobweaver> Doxin,  just set up the confiure file to install to where you want like a sandbox but then again this is gcc so that is hard
[18:11] <MasterOfDisaster> Doxin: did you try starting with the src deb? IIRC the gcc configure script is nasty
[18:11] <piglit> i get the following:
[18:11] <piglit> udevd [93] worker 102 terminated by signal 11 (segmentation fault)
[18:11] <qw[Russian]> help me after update and upgrade my OS is very very brakes, to be exact a sound! and picture!
[18:11] <Doxin> Masduqe|Off: every configure script is nasty. I started with a source tarball
[18:11] <bobweaver> configure --prefix=/some./place
[18:11] <Doxin> bobweaver: that's just the install dir though, isn't it?
[18:11] <ikonia> Doxin: the documentation for building gc is on gnu.org
[18:11] <piglit> udevd [93] worker [102] failed while handling /devices/pnp0/00:01
[18:11] <trism> Doxin: if you are just curious, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/introduction.html walks you through building the whole toolchain, but kind of offtopic here
[18:11] <bobweaver> Doxin,  correct
[18:12] <ikonia> Doxin: if you want to do it because you can - I suggest you read this
[18:12] <piglit> anyone got a idea what to do with it?
[18:12] <ikonia> trism: that's not a good idea
[18:12] <rhizmoe> why do i have so much trouble with copy/paste? seems like most apps don't respond to either ^v/c nor ctrl-shift v/c
[18:12] <rhizmoe> do i have to go back to the 80s and use shift-del?
[18:12] <Doxin> trism: hmm, was hoping for a shorter answer, but thanks :P
[18:13] <MasterOfDisaster> rhizmoe: select with mouse -> press middle mouse button to paste
[18:13] <MasterOfDisaster> rhizmoe: easy enough?
[18:13] <ikonia> Doxin: if you follow that link from trism your gcc will not be sane
[18:13] <g105b> Hi all. When out with my laptop I want to communicate within my office LAN as if I were there - is this what a VPN is for?
[18:13] <ikonia> Doxin: be warned
[18:13] <e> hi all
[18:13] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: yes
[18:14] <trism> ikonia: it doesn't replace the system toolchain
[18:14] <bobweaver> Doxin,  I also say that this is a good read http://developer.gnome.org/anjuta-build-tutorial/3.2/anjuta-build-tutorial.html
[18:14] <ikonia> trism: I didn't say it did
[18:14] <bobweaver> there is also a great autotools book out there
[18:14] <Gallomimia> q105b that is one of VPN's many uses
[18:14] <g105b> ok, so to connect to my office network via a VPN, do I need a VPN server or can I just use my office's router?
[18:14] <Guest18869> I have a question, ho is ready to help ?:)
[18:14] <Gallomimia> depends how sophistocated it is
[18:14] <Doxin> bobweaver: thanks
[18:14] <bobweaver> though auto tools is kinda off topic but it is out there and it is great
[18:14] <bobweaver> Doxin,  ^^
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> !help > Guest18869
[18:15] <Gallomimia> g105b a simple box which you have access to on the LAN in the office would suffice as your "server"
[18:15] <xangua> rhizmoe: use a clipboard manager :)
[18:15] <Cyberspaceloa> Doxin: thanks for being persistent, because now I have some more documentation to read through
[18:15] <Doxin> Cyberspaceloa: hm?
[18:16] <bobweaver> Doxin,  for what it is worth I just got done reading this http://books.google.com/books?id=HBbKghM2fGYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=autotools+book&source=bl&ots=wYIYKRhPom&sig=JveVLOxWuuGPMC5DMZM3V1Qs2Ao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PC9rUPm7O-y30QHMk4GwDQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=autotools%20book&f=false               and it was a great book !!
[18:16] <g105b> Gallomimia, great, so I need to install VPN server software onto this box?
[18:16] <Guest18869> anyone has a hp6910p with radeon graphics and ubuntu 12.10 installed?
[18:16] <Doxin> bobweaver: found my answer though, thanks.
[18:16] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: as Gallomimia implied, ssh can be rigged to do this: http://www.math.hmc.edu/computing/support/ssh/vpn/
[18:17] <Cyberspaceloa> Doxin: I'm just sympathizing that people are acting like you're crazy or something, when you're experimenting
[18:17] <Cyberspaceloa> Doxin: however, I hope you have a spare box to mess around with this stuff
[18:17] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: let the title be a warning though :)
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest18869, Please address the actual problem in the form of a question, that is how the channel works. ;)
[18:17] <Gallomimia> thanks for that MasterOfDisaster. saving
[18:17] <bobweaver> Cyberspaceloa,  have you ever compiled gcc ?
[18:18] <ineedguru> hu anybody
[18:18] <ineedguru> hi
[18:18] <Cyberspaceloa> bobweaver: no, I can't afford to mess with my system right now
[18:18] <g105b> MasterOfDisaster: thanks... I've never dealt with VPN before so this is all new to me. Trouble is, in the office there may be no PCs turned on, only printers/network drives/etc (these are the devices I will want access to)
[18:18] <Gallomimia> hi
[18:18] <Cyberspaceloa> bobweaver: however, I wouldn't mind messing around with it out of curiosity at a later stage
[18:18] <blackboxer> .
[18:18] <Gallomimia> some network drives are capable of this capability
[18:18] <Doxin> Cyberspaceloa: I know how to make it not break stuff :P
[18:19] <Gallomimia> but the router is what you are going to need to mess with as primary. to open ports obviously
[18:19] <Doxin> Cyberspaceloa: and a reinstall doesn't take too long anyways.
[18:19] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: ususally you have a VPN node/server/box dedicated to provide an entry point into a remote network
[18:19] <Gallomimia> some routers can VPN, some claim they can and fail miserably, and some don't even try
[18:19] <g105b> MasterOfDisaster: ok I understand. Maybe I would want to use the office connection as proxy?
[18:19] <bobweaver> Cyberspaceloa,  yeah it is not a good idea because so many things use it. Like I had to compile 3.X the other day for HTK and lets just say that it was not the easy thing to do and HTK is still not working correctly
[18:19] <ineedguru> excuse me do you know wher i can speak armenia?)
[18:19] <Gallomimia> your office router might be slightly sophisticated and only allow VPN as a client. in which case set up a box in your house to be the server
[18:20] <bobweaver> !armenia
[18:20] <ineedguru> yes
[18:20] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: as suggested, a router capable of running a sshd can be used for this. a more sane approach would be openvpn, or something like a cisco asa vpn gateway
[18:20] <Cyberspaceloa> bobweaver: yeah, I wouldn't even attempt on a machine that I need to consistently work
[18:20] <Gallomimia> but that might route all traffic from the office into the house. in which case you can get fired for breaking corporate network security
[18:20] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: depending, of course, on intended usage
[18:20] <Gallomimia> if you can't keep computers on in the office, consider using one of these: www.raspberrypi.com
[18:20] <bobweaver> ineedguru,  I am sure that there is a channel what it is on the other hand IDK
[18:21] <bobweaver> !ar | ineedguru
[18:21] <g105b> Gallomimia: I have one of those!
[18:21] <bobweaver> nopr
[18:21] <ineedguru> ups
[18:21] <Gallomimia> i do too
[18:21] <Gallomimia> use it as your server. put it in a nice case and lay it next to the router
[18:21] <Gallomimia> call it "MAIL" or something. put a label on it and say its important don't unplug
[18:21] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b, Gallomimia: lucky. mine still hasn't shipped :)
[18:21] <bobweaver> Gallomimia,  legos are awesome for PI
[18:22] <Gallomimia> really? i've had it for months
[18:22] <Gallomimia> i heard!
[18:22] <ineedguru> thnx
[18:22] <Gallomimia> do you know a link to a design for a case?
[18:22] <g105b> Gallomimia: So I can use the PI as a VPN server in the office?
[18:22] <Gallomimia> its a PC right?
[18:22] <forgotmynick> Does Ubuntu support Intel i7 3930K ?
[18:22] <Gallomimia> it uses low power and people won't notice it as a computer that's on to be shut down
[18:22] <MasterOfDisaster> g105b: yes
[18:23] <bobweaver> Gallomimia,  http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/cases
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Gallomimia: it's not very fast
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Gallomimia: well, compared to a "normal" desktop
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Gallomimia: it doesn't cost anything to try though
[18:23] <Gallomimia> who cares all he wants it for is vpn routing
[18:23] <ineedguru> aim sory one more. where i can read good book for linux administration? but whit many practical exemples?
[18:24] <xangua> !ot | ineedguru
[18:24] <bobweaver> ineedguru,  there are books in the softwarecenter
[18:24] <g105b> I'll start playing with my PI right away - all I've been using it for is playing video on my home TV, waiting for something useful to come up ... here it is :)
[18:24] <jackdup> ineedguru, http://www.tldp.org
[18:24] <willdabeast> Question, I am trying to create a bootable win xp usb to use through Virtual Box. Can you use usb's to boot in Virtual Box?
[18:25] <ineedguru> thank you jackdup
[18:25] <llutz> ineedguru: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/
[18:25] <bobweaver> wildc4rd,  can you mount the image from the usb on a loop and then press f12 when booting virtual box ?
[18:26] <willdabeast> bobweaver are you talking to me?
[18:26] <bobweaver> sorry willdabeast
[18:26] <bobweaver> willdabeast,  yeah
[18:27] <willdabeast> bobweaver - well as of now i have just copied the files from a windows xp install disk over to a NTFS Boot flagged usb, seeing if that will work too
[18:27] <fluitfries> willdabeast, i think you can do all that, i would use unetbootin to make your usb tho
[18:27] <fluitfries> willdabeast, then tell your VM to boot off the USB
[18:28] <willdabeast> fluitfries VM doesn't have a usb boot option I don't think, as far as the settings go. I don't know about F12 yet during boot
[18:28] <fluitfries> willdabeast, for USB support you need to make an empty filter in the machine as well
[18:28] <fluitfries> willdabeast, i've booted virtualbox off lots of stuff, i'd be surprised if it could not do that.
[18:29] <willdabeast> fluitfries yea I got that done, will unetbootin allow me to create a windows xp install? I thought it was only for linux installs
[18:29] <fluitfries> also when you boot your VM there is a funtion key to press for a boot-time menu as well
[18:29] <fluitfries> willdabeast, yes, it claims to do so.
[18:29] <ineedguru> !armenia
[18:29] <bobweaver> willdabeast,  that is why I say plug the usb in and mount the iso then set the cd drive in the VBox to be the usb mounted iso ? maybe ? then On boot you can press f12 or you can set in settings
[18:29] <CyberGabber> If he's using the OSE-version of Virtualbox, there is no USB option i believe.
[18:30] <bobweaver> !am | ineedguru
[18:30] <fluitfries> CyberGabber, yea, that may be true.
[18:30] <willdabeast> I don't think its ose... how do I check
[18:30] <ineedguru> !am | ineedguru
[18:30] <ineedguru> =)
[18:31] <fluitfries> bobweaver, he shouldn't need to fool vbox, it should be capable of usb boot.
[18:31] <xangua> !en | bobweaver: ineedguru stop guessing, there seems to be no 'armenia' channel
[18:31] <xangua> at least not an ubuntu related
[18:31] <thebananafish> hey all I followed a guide on stackexchange to secure sftp and chroot it. but now I can't ssh in as anyone
[18:31] <bobweaver> xangua,  yeah I was looking and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport says am is it
[18:31] <thebananafish> luckily I have webmin so I can still edit the config
[18:31] <willdabeast> So how do I check if it is OSE?
[18:31] <fluitfries> willdabeast, also remember that you don't need to boot via USB to install a VM, you can simply use the ISO file...
[18:32] <xangua> willdabeast: did you install it from ubuntu repository¿
[18:32] <fluitfries> willdabeast, probably in the about menu, or look at the package you used for install
[18:32] <willdabeast> fluitfries The problem is getting the iso file, I can't find a program to create an iso file in linux
[18:32] <willdabeast> xangua and fluitfries - I installed it through the software center
[18:33] <crimsonmane> willdabeast: brasero does it
[18:33] <bobweaver> willdabeast,  have ou tried k3B ?
[18:33] <bobweaver> you *
[18:33] <fluitfries> willdabeast, lol, well there are plenty of ways, yea brasero will do it from your cd or dvd
[18:33] <xangua> willdabeast: then it is, go to the virtualbox web and download the propietary there
[18:33] <crimsonmane> in pretty much any burner program you tell it the destination is "image file"
[18:33] <CyberGabber> willdabeast: http://tuxarena.blogspot.nl/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html
[18:33]  * fluitfries nods to crimsonmane 
[18:34] <willdabeast> fluitfries haha well thats handy, bobweaver no, crimsonmane ill try that xangua alright thanks :)
[18:34] <CyberGabber> willdabeast: K3b will dot the job ;-)
[18:34] <willdabeast> will it not work by just copying the cd boot files to an ntfs boot usb?
[18:35] <bobweaver> willdabeast,  k3b is powerful
[18:35] <fluitfries> willdabeast, no, you need boot records, flags, certain filesystem types sometimes...  etc
[18:35] <fluitfries> willda definitely use unetbootin
[18:35] <willdabeast> fluitfries, i gparted it as ntfs and set a boot flag, but i guess i need bootrecords too?
[18:36] <fluitfries> i just made one with unetbootin and i needed to use fat32 when i made it in linux, ntfs wouldnt work
[18:36] <fluitfries> willdabeast, i think unetbootin will take care of that question for you is what i'm saying
[18:37] <fluitfries> i created a mbr part scheme, then fat32 partition, then unetbootin with my ISO, done.
[18:37]  * Gallomimia hopes ineedguru will start the armenia channel for ubuntu and linux afficianados
[18:37] <willdabeast> fluitfries gotcha thanks. And thanks everyone :) love using this channel.
[18:37] <fluitfries> willdabeast, np, good luck, thanks
[18:38] <qw[Russian]> prompt please as to me to disconnect function of blocking of the screen if at me the mouse costs in idle times
[18:39] <enzo> ciao
[18:40] <qw[Russian]> i search
[18:40] <qw[Russian]> )
[18:41] <genii-around> qw[Russian]: xset dpms force off
[18:42] <Captain_Claw> Hey. I don't need to install a firewall on Ubuntu 12.04, right?  Because all the incoming connections are blocked by default..
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Captain_Claw  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> Captain_Claw  this may be more useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewall
[18:56] <sssilver> Hello everyone. I'm installing Ubuntu, however my mouse doesn't work in the installer (it's an ancient Compaq PS/2 mouse). I work fine with the keyboard, however on the step where I need to create partitions, some necessary buttons are not focusable by keyboard. What should I do?
[18:56] <azm> hi, I reinstalled grub via chroot from live enviroment but it still loads windows loade
[18:57] <azm> *loader
[18:57] <azm> can some one help please ?
[18:57] <tozen> azm, seem u r installed grub on wrong place
[18:58] <IDWMaster> Hi. Is there a way on Intel Atom chips to artificially increase the screen resolution (which was possible in Windows via a registry setting change)?
[18:58] <azm> tozen, but I have only dev/sda
[18:58] <azm> how do  Ifind where is mbt then
[18:58] <azm> sda1 is windows ,sda2 is ubuntu
[18:58] <azm> simple
[18:58] <Max77> hy all
[18:58] <tozen> azm do u have flash drive with live cd?
[18:58] <IDWMaster> Hi
[18:59] <azm> tozen, life cd
[18:59] <tozen> azm WAIT now!
[19:00] <IDWMaster> Anyone know if it's possible to use display downscaling for artificially higher resolutions on Ubuntu?
[19:00] <azm> tozen, sorry ?
[19:00] <gyre007> is there any equivalent of rpm -V in Ubuntu ?
[19:00] <tozen> azm, load ur live cd, them tipe in terminal: sudo fdisk -l and check where is ur ubunru installed
[19:01] <IDWMaster> rpm -V?
[19:01] <IDWMaster> What's that supposed to do?
[19:01] <ikonia> rpm will do nothing on ubuntu
[19:01] <azm> tozen, already did that all
[19:01] <ikonia> it's a redhat option
[19:01] <azm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[19:01] <IDWMaster> What's it supposed to do in Redhat
[19:01] <IDWMaster> What's it supposed to do in Redhat?
[19:01] <ikonia> IDWMaster: join #fedora and ask
[19:01] <tozen> azm so tell me where is it
[19:01] <thor> hi, some knows how to run a .bat archive in wine?
[19:01] <azm> I dont remember tozen
[19:02] <azm> tozen, its /dev/sda6
[19:02] <tozen> azm, u need to do it now or i can't help u, all is up to u
[19:02] <tozen> azm,ok
[19:03] <tozen> azm, them pop in terminal sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[19:03] <azm> I did that already
[19:03] <IDWMaster> OK. rpm -V in Redhat verifies the integrity of the package repository
[19:03] <IDWMaster> Equivalent in Ubuntu I suppose would be to do a sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <tozen> azm, and after that sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[19:04] <IDWMaster> In Ubuntu that usually lets me know if there's something wrong with the packages
[19:04] <IDWMaster> like if there's a bad signature or something
[19:05] <ikonia> IDWMaster: I know what rpm does - it's nothing of value to ubuntu
[19:05] <IDWMaster> gyre007 asked what the Ubuntu equivalent was
[19:05] <IDWMaster> so I was looking it up for him
[19:06] <azm> tozen, I will have to connect to irc from live cd
[19:06] <FKppi> hi, i'm starting to use irc in ubuntu, so i would like to know what is the best irc client for Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[19:06] <azm> thanks for help tho
[19:06] <tozen> azm, try also sudo update-grub --output=/mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg if u been installed windows before ubuntu
[19:06] <IDWMaster> What are you using now?
[19:06] <xangua> !best | azm
[19:06] <ThinkT510> FKppi: no such thing as best
[19:06] <xangua> upss
[19:07] <themindbenders> crypters
[19:19] <BinaryMaster> Question: I am trying to manage some of my desktops remotely doing the following gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true but I am getting a nasty error message * (process:10955): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=74a4d32435da9d2957d430d500000008 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n   I have tried as a user account and with sudo b
[19:19] <BinaryMaster> oth give the same results any ideas?
[19:19] <BinaryMaster> Sorry this is 12.04 desktop that I am running this on
[19:20] <scatterp> ikonia,  sorry didnt see your reply some how it didnt flash up i am runing ubuntu 12.04
[19:22] <BinaryMaster> Question(Ubuntu Desktop 1204): I am trying to manage some of my desktops remotely doing the following gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true but I am getting a nasty error message.  Any ideas?
[19:24] <Siegel-> i have a powershot sx100 is canon camera. plugging it through the usb cable works, the photos even show on my computer, as i try to open one of them no program is able to. cant transfer them onto my computer. do i need to download a driver? how can i knonw if ubuntu (latest version) supports this model?
[19:24] <L3mce> BinaryMaster: I have no idea what you are doing but you might have to set DISPLAY, just based on the error.
[19:25] <BinaryMaster> thank you L3mce
[19:25] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, are you shooting in Raw?
[19:25] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: what is Raw?
[19:26] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, its on the camera if the images are stored in RAW format you need to find support for the file
[19:26] <L3mce> Siegel-: he means raw data format rather than, say, a .jpg... what are you trying to open them with?
[19:26] <Praxi> when I want to check permissions, I did a ls -l, is there a flag that shows me the numerical representation of drwxrwxrwx like 777 or whatever?
[19:26] <Siegel-> L3mce: BinaryMaster when they show up on my computer the ending is .jpg
[19:26] <Poapfel> hello
[19:27] <Poapfel> anybody who could help me with setting up a static ipv6 adress with a ubuntu server?
[19:27] <L3mce> Siegel-: then I will need the actual error with a specific program.
[19:27] <jrib> Praxi: read stat's man page
[19:27] <Siegel-> L3mce: okay there is an error with image viewer. ill tell you in a minute
[19:27] <scatterp> Hi i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install h
[19:27] <scatterp> ow ever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do i am running ubuntu 12.04
[19:27] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, oddly enough so do mine on my Canon T4i but I shoot in RAW so I end up having to use my mac with lightroom and an extension
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Poapfel, You might try #ubuntu-server
[19:28] <nawledgebeats> hello
[19:28] <L3mce> Siegel-: see if you can open them with GIMP.
[19:28] <L3mce> !info gimp
[19:28] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: this is bizarre. i just tried to open a photo to give you the error number and now they all open and i can switch images no problem. haha. its weird. how come??? how come it works now? and how can i count on it working the ext time
[19:29] <Siegel-> L3mce: i have gimp, ill try that next time if it doesnt work
[19:29] <nawledgebeats> hey guys so im trying to run an ./install.sh
[19:29] <nawledgebeats> and its not working
[19:30] <nawledgebeats> ps. im super noob
[19:30] <jrib> nawledgebeats: ask the provider of the install.sh
[19:30] <jrib> nawledgebeats: what are you installing exactly?
[19:30] <oversize> is empathy realy the future of irc in ubuntu ? i just cant get warm with it ...  yet
[19:31] <nawledgebeats> its supposed to be a "gnome" theme
[19:31] <BinaryMaster> nawledgebeats, sudo chmod +x install.sh
[19:31] <jrib> nawledgebeats: what are you installing *exactly*?
[19:31] <nawledgebeats> thank you ill try that
[19:31] <xangua> oversize: install other client, plenty of them
[19:32] <cihhan> Hi all! I cant find xenstat library (xenstat.h) even though Xen and libxen-dev are both installed -- any idea?
[19:32] <oversize> xangua: i loved konversation back when i used kde ... and "the others" (i know) are either dicusting or console based ... hm so the answer would be yes i guess if i ask for (sort of) official unity irc client.
[19:33] <xangua>  oversize: xangua: i loved konversation back when i used kde - does something stops you from using it¿
[19:33] <BluesKaj> oversize, well ,if you don't mind a few kde-libs, konversation is still a great client
[19:34] <nawledgebeats> one sec sry guys
[19:34] <oversize> sorry did not want to troll some1 here :) just  wanted to "use my new irc client" :)
[19:34] <nawledgebeats> im at work :D
[19:34] <ner0x> Where does cron store it's logs?
[19:35] <L3mce> Praxi: if you just want an octal return try stat -c %n\ %a /path/to/dir/*
[19:36] <L3mce> or reverse the %a and %n if you want permission first.
[19:36] <scatterp> can i get some help with my webcam ?
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> ner0x, You are asking this question here and debian stick to the channel of the OS you are running.
[19:36] <KyleYankan> Hey #ubuntu, I'm having trouble making multimon work on my thinkpad x31 (older laptop). However, it seems that my soundcard isn't working at all, despite the correct module being loaded (snd-intel8x0)
[19:36] <nawledgebeats> gnome shell theme
[19:36] <nawledgebeats> thats what its called
[19:36] <ner0x> wilee-nilee: I assumed it was debian but it seems the net admins changed it. Sorry I was misinformed.
[19:37] <nawledgebeats> i read up on it online it said i need to execute the ./install.sh file
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> ner0x, Ah I just realized that my mistake. ;(
[19:37] <jrib> nawledgebeats: what are you installing *exactly*?
[19:37] <ner0x> wilee-nilee: Not a problem. It's hard to tell IRC newb from regular users.
[19:37] <nawledgebeats> installing a Gnome Theme
[19:38] <nawledgebeats> mixtureD gnome shell theme
[19:38] <jrib> nawledgebeats: so where did you get it?
[19:38] <nawledgebeats> just a webpage
[19:38] <jrib> !who | nawledgebeats
[19:38] <nawledgebeats> online
[19:38] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: multimon eh
[19:38] <jrib> nawledgebeats: be *specific*
[19:39] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: you need aoss
[19:39] <nawledgebeats> thank you.
[19:39] <luist> considering my app will run on many distros, how can i check if its ubuntu? i need something that returns true or false?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> luist: why do you need to know?
[19:39] <luist> gordonjcp: to set some paths accordingly
[19:40] <llutz> luist: check "lsb_release"
[19:40] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: it doesnt give me an error number, it only says somethig like this: "No images found in 'gphoto2://[usb:001,025]/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_0017.JPG'.", and this is while the picture is displayed as a thumbnail
[19:40] <nawledgebeats> jrib I downloaded it from the internet it had a screenshot that looked really nice
[19:41] <jrib> nawledgebeats: what webpage?
[19:41] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: alsa-oss is already installed
[19:41] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, Does your computer have a card reader?
[19:41] <L3mce> Siegel-: displayed as a thumbnail in Nautilus?
[19:41] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: okay
[19:41] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: and are you using it?
[19:41] <nawledgebeats> jrib hmmm one sec
[19:41] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: no.
[19:41] <jrib> ner0x: why do you want to know? :x
[19:41] <Siegel-> L3mce: 12.4
[19:41] <FabioAbibi> there is a ubuntu server channel?
[19:41] <Siegel-> L3mce: latest version, if thats the name then yes
[19:41] <jrib> FabioAbibi: #ubuntu-server
[19:41] <L3mce> Siegel-: Nautilus is the file manager for Ubuntu...
[19:41] <nawledgebeats> jrib http://www.mediafire.com/?wvbro63epspp2b4
[19:41] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: you need something like $ aoss ./multimon
[19:41] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: Yeah, but no luck. I also tried using aplay to play .wav's, and /dev/random with no noise.
[19:42] <jrib> nawledgebeats: where did you find that link...
[19:42] <ner0x> jrib: ?
[19:42] <FabioAbibi> jrib: thanx
[19:42] <mikkel> Can anyone help me? I am having crashes
[19:42] <jrib> ner0x: aren't you asking about where cron logs?
[19:42] <Siegel-> L3mce: oh yes its in the cameras folder, adn then dcim....
[19:42] <L3mce> Siegel-: while in the directory where you see the thumbnail, press ctrl + L  and paste the path at the top which appears
[19:42] <ner0x> jrib: Yes.
[19:42] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, can you import all the files using gPhoto ? check your cables it sounds like a lose connection between the camera and computer
[19:42] <Siegel-> L3mce: ok
[19:42] <cihhan> I cant find xenstat library (xenstat.h) even though Xen and libxen-dev are both installed -- any idea?
[19:42] <Siegel-> L3mce: gphoto2://[usb:001,025]/DCIM/100CANON
[19:43] <jrib> ner0x: so why do you want to know...? :)  (cron logs to /var/log/messages by default, but it also mails you output from your jobs as long as you've installed an mta)
[19:43] <L3mce> I am guessing it doesnt like that path with those brackets
[19:43] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: ok, ive tried two different cables.
[19:43] <jrib> cihhan: that file isn't anywhere in the repositories
[19:43] <Siegel-> L3mce: i see. what do i do about that
[19:43] <ner0x> jrib: A job is failing to run. I'm under the assumping it's a PATH issue.
[19:43] <BinaryMaster> how old is the camera?
[19:43] <nawledgebeats> jrib http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MixtureD+Gnome-Shell+Theme?content=153941
[19:43] <nawledgebeats> jrib there it is
[19:43] <mikkel> I am having random crashes, can anyone help me?
[19:43] <mihneadb> hello, I installed ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on an UEFI system and I cannot find the efi_gop module. Any help, please?
[19:43] <L3mce> cp them in nautilus to a  directory locally and edit them there
[19:43] <jrib> nawledgebeats: thanks.  Now... are sure you are running gnome shell?
[19:43] <L3mce> Siegel-: ^
[19:44] <jrib> ner0x: redirect stdout and stderr somewhere and read it.  Or just fix the path issues and see if it works
[19:44] <Siegel-> L3mce: dunno how to do that
[19:44] <nawledgebeats> right now from the login screen i chose ubuntu
[19:44] <luist> llutz: what is that supposed to do?
[19:44] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, how old is the camera
[19:44] <ner0x> jrib: Doing that now. Thanks.
[19:44] <nawledgebeats> but i have the option for Gnome
[19:44] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: im not sure. its a friends. im guessing around 2 years
[19:44] <llutz> luist: read "man lsb_release" - print distribution-specific information
[19:45] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: any luck yet?
[19:45] <luist> llutz: well it gave me No LSB modules are available. 
[19:45] <luist> llutz: so its not an option
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> luist: thats normal
[19:45] <genupulas> somebody http://askubuntu.com/q/195624/33833
[19:45] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: No. None whatsoever. :-/
[19:45] <L3mce> Siegel-: I use KDE... but at the top of Dolphin, we have a "split" button which will allow us to drag and drop from one dir to another in the same window... just open another file manager if you dont, and drag and drop one and see if you can open it locallyw ithout a problem.
[19:45] <jrib> nawledgebeats: if you pastebin the contents of the install.sh, I'll try to make sure it's sane.  I don't know offhand how you install gnome shell themes
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> luist: or you can use:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[19:45] <luist> cant i just parse uname output and check for ubuntu?
[19:45] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, you may just have to take it file by file.  If this is something you will be doing often you may want to run to walmart or like store and buy a memory card reader for like $15
[19:45] <llutz> luist:  "lsb_release -i"
[19:45] <croepha> I am trying to control a number of different ubuntu machines, automatically, I figure I can use https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html to keep them updated, but what if I wanted to install a new package on all of them?
[19:45] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: right, what are you trying to get multimon to do?
[19:46] <Siegel-> L3mce: do i have another file manager?
[19:46] <nawledgebeats> jrib: okay thats what ill do one sec
[19:46] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: It is an older laptop, and I've never used the osund card, just modprobed the module, and turned up the audio in alsamixer. I want multimon to deocde DTMF tones.
[19:46] <cihhan> jrib: so, what shoud i do?
[19:46] <nawledgebeats> jrib: can i email it
[19:46] <cihhan> i need to make some changes in the xentop
[19:46] <L3mce> Siegel-: you can open multiple instances I mean
[19:46] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: like I said, $ aoss ./multimon
[19:46] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, ctrl+N for a new window
[19:46] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: assuming you're in the directory where the multimon binary is
[19:46] <Siegel-> L3mce: it would be the same manager. or do you mean a separate window ? like go into a different folder in a separate window? and then what? drag and drop a file into there?
[19:47] <cihhan> jrib: i need to make some changes in xentop, and it requires xenstat library. So, do you have any suggestions?
[19:47] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: yes this opens up the home folder
[19:47] <L3mce> so... Siegel-... open your home directories "Pictures" directory for instance, and in another window open your camera and drag and drop a file, then double click the file locally.
[19:47] <Siegel-> L3mce: ok let me try
[19:47] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, now make a temp folder and drag and drop the files
[19:47] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: ok
[19:48] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: no luck. It launches multimon, and failes with an open:permission denied. So I do a sudo aoss multimon, and it executes, and waits for some tones to decode- with no return if I send a DTMF tones
[19:48] <rollitup> hi all
[19:48] <nawledgebeats> jrib: http://pastebin.com/3zWALqNm
[19:48] <rollitup> has anyone gotten M-audio 1010LT soundcard to work with Ubuntu 12.04
[19:49] <gordonjcp> rollitup: I've got it to work with older Ubuntus
[19:49] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: check the permissions for your various sound devices
[19:49] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: L3mce ok this works. now this is my problem: it takes a couple of minutes for all the files to load and only then will it even let me drag and drop. why may this be?
[19:49] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: that *should* work, but add the SCOPE decoder and check you're actually getting audio in
[19:49] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: terminal only
[19:50] <nawledgebeats> jrib: this just sucks bc i thought i was good with computers. . .
[19:50] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: can you try a different decoder?
[19:50] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, Camera maybe older then you thought or the computer is and is using usb 1.0
[19:50] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: I haven't been able to find any
[19:50] <nawledgebeats> jrib: lol
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[19:50] <L3mce> Siegel-: because you are viewing it in thumbnail mode... It has to read all of your very large picture files and then convert then to thumbs, nd then display them
[19:50] <rollitup> gordonjcp: how do i check permissions for audio devices ?
[19:50] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: what is usb 1.0? my computer is from 2005
[19:51] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: any luck?
[19:51] <jrib> cihhan: I don't
[19:51] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: Is there a cheap and drity way I can make sure the sound card is even working?
[19:51] <jrib> cihhan: is xentop provided by ubuntu repositories?
[19:51] <BinaryMaster> Siegel-, You can look into turning of thumbnail mode though not sure how myself
[19:51] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: arecord and see if there's anything in the file?
[19:51] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: its here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9ca724d57508bba56a48531b33d61377429a875b
[19:51] <jrib> nawledgebeats: I don't recommend you run this script as it copies things system-wide.  I'd suggest you only install it to your HOME
[19:52] <cihhan> jrib: yeah, im using it
[19:52] <gordonjcp> rollitup: what is the problem you're having?
[19:52] <rollitup> i have no sound
[19:52] <nawledgebeats> how exactly do i do that?
[19:52] <rollitup> i also disabled the onboard sound driver from the bios as suggested in some similar issue threads
[19:52] <nawledgebeats> jrib: right-click, run?
[19:52] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: unable to create IPC semaphore
[19:53] <nawledgebeats> jrib: on terminal command
[19:53] <rollitup> i turned up the volume for all output channels in alsa mixer
[19:53] <nawledgebeats> jrib: or*
[19:53] <mac_12> how can I share internet connection between host and guest in virtualbox? (using NAT interface)
[19:53] <rollitup> also have installed Mudita24
[19:53] <willdabeast> Having an issue with UNetbootin, the usb drive is not being found on the dropdown list. The usb is mounted and has an ntfs filesystem.
[19:53] <jrib> cihhan: so just do « apt-get source PACKAGE_FOR_XENTOP » and « sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE_FOR_XENTOP »
[19:53] <Siegel-> BinaryMaster: thats i guess in "view", but is it possible that all this trouble is only because of my kind of "old" hardware and that it just takes a bit time because the connection isnt ideal? i mean, after a couple of minutes all the files display and when i drag 'n drop, it works fine
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, is it mounted
[19:53] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: ?
[19:53] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee yes
[19:53] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: I did sudo arecord, and the test.wav file does show data
[19:54] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee do i need to set a boot flag?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, whats the partition format?
[19:54] <gordonjcp> so it's getting something in then
[19:54] <Iva22> HI ALL! its very important to me. Who knew Mark Shuttleworth gay or not?
[19:54] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ntfs with nothing on it
[19:54] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: try enabling ZVEI and whistling at it?
[19:54] <g0hww> how can if force one of my soundcards to use 48kHz sample rate.  that rate is supported but is not the default rate.  i've tried editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf but that had no effect.  can i do it with an ioctl?  in a script?
[19:54] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: I'm kind of running out of ideas here...
[19:54] <Iva22> please?
[19:54] <mac_12> if I open a browser in the guest I cannot surfing the web
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, hmm fat 32 is what you want I believe
[19:55] <cihhan> jrib: ok let me check that :) thanks a lot :)
[19:55] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee is it because win xp is older?
[19:55] <jrib> nawledgebeats: you should be able to just copy the theme to ~/.themes and the icons to ~/.icons
[19:55] <nawledgebeats> jrib: sry for all the questions im just super noob
[19:55] <g0hww> its the playback (audio output) rate i need to set
[19:55] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: Heh, I do always have the weird problems
[19:55] <nawledgebeats> ohhh
[19:55] <gordonjcp> g0hww: asound.conf maybe?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[19:55] <Iva22> Who knew Mark personally?
[19:55] <nawledgebeats> jrib: can you give me a terminal command for that?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, ISO are generally run a fat32 and with unetbootin
[19:55] <jrib> nawledgebeats: some google hits suggest that gnome-tweak-tool may also be able to help you with this.  I don't know about it
[19:55] <mac_12> what is that?
[19:56] <jrib> nawledgebeats: if you don't want to use the terminal, you can just copy using the gui
[19:56] <nawledgebeats> i tried gnome tweak tool
[19:56] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee gotcha thanks :) you're always helpful.
[19:56] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: No such luck with ZVEI. :-/
[19:56] <mac_12> may I type this in the guest?
[19:56] <Iva22> Only kids in channel?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[19:56] <jrib> nawledgebeats: what do you see inside the archive you downloaded?
[19:56] <Iva22> #ubuntu-ru
[19:56] <rollitup> yes
[19:56] <g0hww> gordonjcp, i've tried it in .asoundrc which didn't help, but as i understand it that performs rate conversion and doesn't actually set the device rate
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: ping, a defacto connectivity tester on all OSes.
[19:56] <nawledgebeats> jrib: icons etc
[19:56] <BluesKaj> rollitup,  open a terminal , sudo modprobe snd_ice1712 , then either reboot or do sudo alsa force-reload , if theres no output from the reload , then reboot
[19:56] <jrib> nawledgebeats: remember, be *specific*
[19:57] <jrib> nawledgebeats: I am not behind your shoulder :)
[19:57] <nawledgebeats> jrib: haha
[19:57] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee is your rank in the forum linked to your irc rank?
[19:57] <rollitup> I'll try that BluesKaj
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> Iva22, those questions some offensive by the way are for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:57] <mac_12> ok I'm gonna try
[19:57] <gordonjcp> rollitup: have you installed envy24control?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Not that I know of, I'm not even active on the forum, but support it.
[19:58] <nawledgebeats> jrib: lets see "gnome-shell" "icons" "themes" install and uninstall .sh files
[19:58] <rollitup> no i have installed mudita24 which is similar to that
[19:58] <KenSharp> hi, I'm just about to upgrade a Hardy server to Precise and I get a lot of "No candidate ver:" messages, libffi4 being an example. would I be correct in assuming that this is simply because those packages don't exist in Precise?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: tbh the only way to sanity is to rewrite multimon so it doesn't require OSS
[19:58] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: OSS went obsolete 15 years ago
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: in a terminal run:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.8
[19:58] <rollitup> brb will try BluesKaj suggestions now
[19:58] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee I saw your name on a few forum posts thats why I asked, you seemed active.
[19:58] <guntbert> !ot | willdabeast
[19:58] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: now if you're not exactly in a hurry for it, check my github repo in a week or two ;-)
[19:58] <KyleYankan> Thanks gordonjcp. I'll keep messing with it.
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I have over 8000 posts I believe I was for some time.
[19:58] <KyleYankan> gordonjcp: same username?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: this *should* work
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> KenSharp: you will need to upgrade to Lucid first, then to precise
[19:59] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: yup
[19:59] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: get it working on your local machine first
[19:59] <KyleYankan> will do gordonjcp
[19:59] <jrib> KenSharp: you can't upgrade directly from hardy to precise, you need to go through lucid
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> KenSharp: remember to run a full backup first
[19:59] <nawledgebeats> jrib: you said earlier to copy and paste the icons and themes folder, but to where would i copy them to?
[19:59] <jrib> nawledgebeats: ~/.themes and ~/.icons/ though I'm confused by the fact that you have gnome-shell and themes.  So let me google some
[19:59] <mac_12> I receive a msg saying network not found
[19:59] <rhizmoe> MasterOfDisaster: i was talking about keyboard copy/paste, middle button or a clipboard manager are both annoying
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: ok, does the interface have an IP address?
[20:00] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: mos def thank you.
[20:00] <KenSharp> sorry, I meant Lucid! It was originally a Hardy installation...
[20:00] <KenSharp> ActionParsnip, I have backed up :)
[20:00] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: I'm using a modified version of it to decode EEA 5-tone signalling
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> KenSharp: good lad
[20:00] <gordonjcp> KyleYankan: it *does* work
[20:01] <KenSharp> No candidate ver:  mysql-server-5.0
[20:01] <KenSharp> No candidate ver:  mysql-server-5.1
[20:01] <mac_12> I'm using virtualbox. I set up a network adapter named NAT within the settings but it does not show nothing about IP
[20:01] <KenSharp> I don't even have them installed....
[20:02] <Iva22> who knew?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> mac_12: I recommend a bridged network, you will get an IP from your home router on the system
[20:03] <mac_12> ok I'm gonna try
[20:03] <jrib> nawledgebeats: alright, first, create  ~/.icons and ~/.themes directories if they don't already exist.  Let me know when you've done that
[20:03] <g0hww> oh, forgot to mention, the program that is having playback sample rate issues is using PortAudio
[20:03] <Iva22> ubuntu-ops
[20:04] <Iva22> #ubuntu-ops
[20:04] <gordonjcp> g0hww: what's the program?
[20:04] <DJones> Iva22: Stop that, this is a support channel
[20:04] <mac_12> Actionparsnip: thank you
[20:04] <g0hww> wspr - a ham radio program
[20:04] <g0hww> built from source, not from repo
[20:04] <gordonjcp> rollitup: right okay, I haven't tried mudita and I haven't got a desktop to put my 1010LT into just now
[20:04] <BluesKaj> rollitup, also you can add the line,' options snd_ice1712 index=0 ', to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, with root permissions , then save the file .
[20:04] <rollitup> back BluesKaj I tried what you suggested also rebooted but still no sound
[20:04] <Iva22> what i just enter on second cjanel what u want?!?!?
[20:04] <gordonjcp> g0hww: I did wonder if that was a callsign
[20:04]  * gordonjcp <- MM0YEQ
[20:05] <g0hww> so, my glitchy audio is getting transmitted all over the world. not a good advert :(
[20:05] <rollitup> ok BluesKaj
[20:05] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: sry but i dont know how to create those directories
[20:05] <gordonjcp> g0hww: tbh I think your best bet is to stop pulse and let wspr get at the sound card directly
[20:05] <Iva22> Who can help?
[20:06] <jrib> nawledgebeats: go to nautilus (the file browser, then view -> show hidden files).  Make sure you are in your HOME directory (~ means your $HOME, which is usually /home/username).  Then you can create a new directory and name it ".icons".   Do the same for ".themes"
[20:06] <L3mce> rollitup: can I see the output of sudo aplay -l
[20:06] <elijah> !help
[20:06] <elijah> help!
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Iva22: what is the issue?
[20:06] <g0hww> gordonjcp, can i stop pulse from using that card - i'd like to keep the rest of the sound system working on the laptop
[20:06] <rollitup> I added the line do i need to reboot again BluesKaj ?
[20:06] <gordonjcp> g0hww: I think so, but I'm not an expert; I tend to stop pulse by fairly brutal and unapproved means
[20:06] <BluesKaj> rollitup, I also have a m-audio card , which works well , mine uses the snd_ice1724 driver
[20:07] <BluesKaj> rollitup, no , try the also force-reload again
[20:07] <gordonjcp> g0hww: did you use the .deb or build from source?
[20:07] <g0hww> lol. yep. i'd shoot it in the face if i had a gun
[20:07] <BluesKaj> alsa force-reload
[20:07] <g0hww> source
[20:07] <themindbenders> i want to watch fashion tv in my ubuntu?
[20:08] <gordonjcp> g0hww: I tried wspr a while back but it was such a bloody awful mess I gave up
[20:08] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, do you have a tuner on your machine
[20:08] <gordonjcp> g0hww: like pretty much all amateur radio software, it's an unmaintainable buggy pile of misfeatures with a hideous GUI loosely nailed onto the twitching corpse
[20:09] <nawledgebeats> Jrib:
[20:09] <nawledgebeats> jrib:oops
[20:09] <rollitup> still no sound
[20:09] <hannofcart> Hi, just installed 12.04 and seem to be having the strangest problems with my wireless. I have only one external usb wireless adapter, and yet lsusb shows two: http://codepad.org/U6GLCEof Also, I keep losing internet access. To be sure the connection to the wireless router seems intact but I can't access any websites.
[20:09] <hannofcart> Could someone help me w.r.t what may be going wrong?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> g0hww,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse
[20:09] <themindbenders> wethepeople:nop
[20:09] <BluesKaj> rollitup, how are you testing the sound ?
[20:10] <elijah> Hey guys, how can I simulate MS Word copying on Ubuntu? Trying to test an input striper in Drupal
[20:10] <elijah> *stripper
[20:10] <rollitup> i had got it to work prior to formatting this machine  with the help of ActionParsnip in April but i did not document the steps that got it working, careless me
[20:10] <g0hww> yeah, found that before.  build was painless this time, and it works pretty well, even on 64 bit, but both that and fldigi give me crackling audio with this signalink-usb device at 44.1kHz, which is its default.  all is good at 48kHz.  i've proven that the glitching is down to sample rate in gnuradio, but can't seem to get wspr running with 48k even though that is what it assumes
[20:10] <hannofcart> Hi, just installed 12.04 and seem to be having the strangest problems with my wireless. I have only one external usb wireless adapter, and yet lsusb shows two: http://codepad.org/U6GLCEof Also, I keep losing internet access. To be sure the connection to the wireless router seems intact but I can't access any websites.
[20:10] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, well git one
[20:10] <rollitup> i am testing sound using the Test sound in All sound settings window
[20:11] <willdabeast> Does anyone have a job that requires a background with linux? Don't think this is offtopic...
[20:11] <BluesKaj> rollitup, was there any output from force-reload command ?
[20:11] <themindbenders> wethepeople:suggest me one
[20:11] <nawledgebeats> jrib: so where exactly again sry im not getting it
[20:11] <rollitup> no not at all
[20:11] <g0hww> gordonjcp, yep, just read your 'review' of wspr above. can't argue with that
[20:11] <jrib> nawledgebeats: do you have nautilus open?
[20:11] <gordonjcp> g0hww: want another example? Xastir
[20:11] <nawledgebeats> jrib: im in the home folder
[20:11] <L3mce> themindbenders: It might be on hulu... in which case you can use huludesktop
[20:11] <gordonjcp> g0hww: want another example? Quisk
[20:11] <BluesKaj> rollitup, ok do you have pavucontrol installed ?
[20:12] <jrib> nawledgebeats: did you show hidden files? (so you see files that start with '.'?)
[20:12] <nawledgebeats> jrib: view> show hidden folders
[20:12] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, you on a laptop or desktop?
[20:12] <nawledgebeats> jrib: yes.
[20:12] <jrib> nawledgebeats: do you have a .icons directory?
[20:12] <gordonjcp> g0hww: soundmodem, linrad, fldigi...
[20:12] <themindbenders> wethepeople:laptop  lenovo y500
[20:12] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: no
[20:12] <g0hww> gordonjcp, god yes.  i had to hack that myself for a faster track update speed so i could plot ADS-B data. its a mess
[20:12] <rollitup> no i have Mudita24 installed which is near to the M-Audio mixer interface that we get on windows
[20:12] <hannofcart> there, i just got disconnected like i mentioned in my question :(
[20:12] <gordonjcp> g0hww: fldigi isn't too bad but it's horribly crippled by using fltk
[20:12] <jrib> nawledgebeats: right click on some white space there, and create a new folder.  Name it ".icons"
[20:12] <gordonjcp> g0hww: I gave up on it and started writing my own APRS tracker
[20:12] <g0hww> gordonjcp, but there is also tons of shite code that isn't ham radio related too
[20:13] <nawledgebeats> jrib: does it need to be .icon or ~.icon etc?
[20:13] <jrib> nawledgebeats: it's ".icons"
[20:13] <nawledgebeats> jrib: sweet one sec
[20:13] <gordonjcp> g0hww: yeah, there's commercial radio software like GPS tracking software for Mototrbo, pretty much any commercial radio programming tools, pretty much any dispatcher software...
[20:14] <L3mce> themindbenders: http://www.prlog.org/11444190-fashiontv-launches-its-247-stream-on-youtube.html         they stream 24/7 on youtube... just... watch that...
[20:14] <g0hww> at least gnuradio isn't crap
[20:14] <nawledgebeats> jrib: so i made two ".icons" and ".theme"
[20:14] <themindbenders> L3mce:thanx buddy
[20:14] <Iva22> Any can help please?
[20:15] <gordonjcp> g0hww: it's like there's some unwritten rule that any software to do with radio has to be written in Microsoft Visual Cobol for OS/2 95 by some guy who died ten years ago, with the GUI designed by a colour-blind orang-utan with an unrivalled collection of cortical lesions
[20:15] <Iva22> Mark is Gay?
[20:15] <gordonjcp> he could be, he seemed reasonably happy last time I saw him
[20:15] <gordonjcp> I don't know what his stance on Enid Blyton is
[20:16] <nawledgebeats> jrib: should i copy and paste the contents from the archive i downloaded?
[20:16] <nawledgebeats> jrib: accordingly
[20:16] <witakr> I'm backeria\
[20:16] <g0hww> gordonjcp, yeah. at least the author of UI-View had the decency to take his shit source code to the grave with him
[20:16] <jrib> nawledgebeats: ".themes", not ".theme"
[20:16] <gordonjcp> g0hww: one thing I'd love to get time to work on is a UI chat plugin for libpurple
[20:16] <gordonjcp> g0hww: "How Hard Can It Be?"
[20:16] <nawledgebeats> jrib: right on i was worried about that
[20:16] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, newegg.com
[20:17] <gordonjcp> g0hww: get your mheard list and all right there in your chat proggie, integrated into the desktop
[20:17] <jrib> nawledgebeats: so now go to the archive you downloaded and copy the "MixtureD" directory inside the "icons" directory in your archive to ~/.icons.  So in the end you should have ~/.icons/MixtureD
[20:17] <themindbenders> wethepeople:u are best
[20:18] <g0hww> gordonjcp, i wrote an AX.25 adapter for the Delay Tolerant Networking Research Group's DTN2 reference implementation.  That isn't shit code. But AFAIK, only me and my mate use it.
[20:18] <gordonjcp> g0hww: if you're doing APRS or APRS-like tracking, take a look at this: https://github.com/gordonjcp/aprsmap
[20:18] <WeThePeople> idk
[20:18] <h00k> g0hww: also, please keep the language appropriate/family friendly in here
[20:18] <gordonjcp> g0hww: that's not terrible code
[20:18] <gordonjcp> h00k: ugh
[20:18] <g0hww> hook, roger that
[20:18] <nawledgebeats> jrib: okay will do one sec
[20:18] <gordonjcp> h00k: what about those who find the phrase "family friendly" offensive?
[20:18] <CommKav> How do I find out the drive letter of my cd rom.  I am trying to install the second disk of a windows game and it asks for a cd drive letter.  The Home Folder is no help.
[20:18] <gordonjcp> you know what, I've had enough of "family friendly"
[20:19] <gordonjcp> the whole "family friendly" thing makes this by far the most hostile and unpleasant channel I've ever been in
[20:19] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: and same with the themes correct?
[20:19] <jrib> nawledgebeats: right
[20:19] <gordonjcp> this channel feels unsafe and unfriendly because of it
[20:19] <themindbenders> wethepeople:what i have to search here?
[20:20] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: done and done.
[20:20] <g0hww> gordonjcp, will have a dabble with aprsmap later
[20:20] <BluesKaj> rollitup, try a reboot , but I suspect your card is bypassing alsa in favour of the Mudita24
[20:20] <jrib> nawledgebeats: that should be it
[20:20] <elijah> Well, here is my question if anyone wants to take a stab at it - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12697597/how-do-i-fill-ubuntu-clipboard-with-ms-word-output
[20:20] <gordonjcp> g0hww: let me know how you get on; it is known to be a bit crappy but basically functional
[20:21] <TJ-> 12.04 Unity (3D) launcher doesn't reveal itself when set to auto-hide. Problem started 10 minutes ago after a log-out/log-in. gettings look normal. Anything I can do to investigate the cause, and a solution?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> rollitup,l make sure the Mudita24 is installed if you 've upgraded lately
[20:21] <nawledgebeats> jrib: just be clear the "directory" i created the .icons and .themes also shows folders; "videos" "documents" is this correct
[20:21] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Order=BESTMATCH&DEPA=0&Submit=ENE&Description=tv%20tuner%20laptop
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: press SuperL and it wuill show, along with dash
[20:21] <nawledgebeats> jrib:?
[20:21] <rollitup> bok
[20:21] <jrib> nawledgebeats: I don't know what you mean
[20:21] <rollitup> sorry ok
[20:21] <hugenumber> I am running ubuntu server 12.04 in a virtualbox. How do I increase the resolution?
[20:21] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I know that! I'm trying to discover *why* its got lost, and how to fix it
[20:22] <witakr> elijah, Are you talking about pasting code or the formatted contents of the word file?
[20:22] <nawledgebeats> how can i screen shot?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: ive had the same issue, i just have it not hide and set the icon size smaller
[20:22] <guntbert> hugenumber: install the guest additions - support in #vbox
[20:22] <nawledgebeats> jrib: can i screen shot this?
[20:22] <shaDykhan> hey guys my new job gave me a macbookpro but i have the oppurtunity to use windows or ubuntu. But i have no idea how to set up ubuntu with bootcamp so is there any guide or any compatabiity issues that i should know abuot?
[20:22] <hugenumber> thanks
[20:22] <jrib> nawledgebeats: just do: ls ~/.icons/ ~/.themes    .  What's the output?
[20:22] <elijah> witakr: If a user highlights text in Word and copies it, I want that to be in my Ubuntu clipboard for pasting.
[20:23] <nawledgebeats> jrib: i really have no idea what im doing
[20:23] <kraetzja> apparently the virtual filesystem driver i wrote which uses loop devices used them all and isn't freeing them, and im out now. how do i reset them?
[20:23] <KyleYankan> Heh, gordonjcp I got it working on another box - but only with microphone. It sees input from line-in, but it's not as louad maybe? I have the mic turned al lthe way up, as well as the input device (Scanner)
[20:23] <jrib> nawledgebeats: that's ok, you just have to type what I said in a terminal and give me the output
[20:23] <witakr> elijah, And if you select and hit ctlr-c in ubuntu it doesn't copy?
[20:23] <nawledgebeats> jrib: youre definitely helping though
[20:23] <elijah> witakr: I don't have Word
[20:24] <elijah> witakr: I just need some demo content I can fill my cb with.
[20:24] <Domincii> guys
[20:24] <Domincii> quick question
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: is there a bug reported?
[20:24] <Domincii> someone is using an ssh to fix some stuff on my computer
[20:24] <Domincii> they have their own user
[20:24] <Domincii> if i lock the computer on my end
[20:24] <themindbenders> wethepeople:i have any other options i have a strong internet connection
[20:25] <Domincii> will they still be able to do their thang?
[20:25] <nawledgebeats> jrib: it didnt tell me anything
[20:25] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I'd rather like to fix the bug :)  ... nothing obvious in .xsession-errors, /var/log/lightdm/*, /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... gsettings are all defaults for com.canonical.unity-2d.launcher.* and desktop.unity.launcher.*
[20:25] <ziggyzero> Domincii: yes
[20:25] <L3mce> Domincii: if you mean lock your desktop, yes
[20:25] <jrib> Domincii: one question = one line.  Please don't use enter as punctuation.  Yes, they can "do their thing"
[20:25] <Domincii> thanks ziggyzero, you're the man
[20:25] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: lots of them, and forum reports, but no explanation as to *why*.
[20:25] <Nubicentauro> Ciauz a tutti bella Gente dal Mitico ^Spartakus^ - Script  #ubuntu
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: then you'll be playing with the settings in myunity or ubuntu-tweak etc
[20:25] <jrib> nawledgebeats: can you pastebin what you see in your terminal? (what you typed and what came after)
[20:26] <L3mce> !it | Nubicentauro
[20:26] <nawledgebeats> yes.
[20:26] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: my only clue is, when I came back to the PC the 2nd HDMI display wasn't working so I logged out (the HDMI was gone since I'd removed the nvidia module and replaced it with a newer version)
[20:26] <nawledgebeats> jrib: yes.
[20:26] <Nubicentauro> c cazz sit viu?
[20:26] <CommKav> How do I find out the drive letter of my cdrom.  I am trying to install the second disk of a windows game and it asks for a cd drive letter.  The Home Folder is no help.
[20:26] <jrib> !it | Nubicentauro
[20:26] <jrib> CommKav: try #winehq
[20:26] <nawledgebeats> jrib:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K3peiIgpMaU/UGtN9TwUUMI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/DfUWsPm9QUg/s576/Screenshot%2520from%25202012-10-02%252013%253A25%253A21.png
[20:27] <jrib> nawledgebeats: yes, that's the right place for .icons.  What inside of .icons now?
[20:27] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: It seems as if the co-ordinates of the launcher have gone into negative numbers, because when programs start, they display slide-out icons that only seem to extend 1/2 way onto the desktop before retiring off-screen
[20:27] <nawledgebeats> http://pastebin.com/zP6UfLWi
[20:27] <witakr> elijah, right but ctrl-c and ctrl-v work outside of word. I guess I'm not clear on what you're doing.
[20:27] <CommKav> thanx
[20:27] <jrib> nawledgebeats: open a new terminal and try the command again
[20:27] <CommKav> thanx
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: could try increasing sensitivity
[20:28] <yar_> 111
[20:28] <Coded1> hello all, I'm running 12.04 and I'm not sure when exactly this started but now when ever I try to install a package via APT or Software Centre I get messages similar to this "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[20:28] <Coded1> I get that just trying to install pastebinit
[20:29] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: yeah, tried all the obvious things. I'm now looking for clues as to how it happened
[20:29] <WeThePeople> themindbenders, http://www.ustream.tv/
[20:29] <nawledgebeats> jrib:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MfdMXH3-jrc/UGtOqG5iUSI/AAAAAAAAAjc/Px6MJBFfJ5g/s576/Screenshot%2520from%25202012-10-02%252013%253A29%253A03.png
[20:30] <jrib> nawledgebeats: you forgot a space
[20:30] <nawledgebeats> after?
[20:30] <genii-around> Coded1: Do you have some non-official site as your main repositories in sources.list perhaps?
[20:30] <nawledgebeats> jrib: where does the space go?
[20:30] <jrib> nawledgebeats: also, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com or similar if it's just text.  The space is between "~/.icons" and "~/.themes"
[20:30] <elijah> witakr: If I copy from MS Word in Windows it fills my clipboard, then when I go to paste into a web based wysiwyg it pastes all the formatting in with it. Like this - http://www.sil.org/silewp/2006/003/sample.htm.htm, but not totally like it because it actually pastes the bolded text and the formatted text without the tags. I want to paste as if I just copied richly formatted text right out of MS word.
[20:31] <L3mce> elijah: why are you asking about microsoft products here?
[20:31] <Coded1> genii-around: I just did a bit of googleing and found I apparently don't have debian-keyring even installed, don't know how I fat fingered that but I'm fixing as we speak
[20:31] <nawledgebeats> jrib: something happened :D
[20:31] <nawledgebeats> jrib:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8e3KqDn-cik/UGtPI_RaOOI/AAAAAAAAAjo/T8hUShAdwpI/h120/Screenshot+from+2012-10-02+13%3A31%3A20.png
[20:32] <jrib> nawledgebeats: that's impossible to read :x
[20:32] <nawledgebeats> hahaha
[20:32] <nawledgebeats> jrib:http://pastebin.com/cvkFg8sq
[20:32] <L3mce> CommKav: typically it is /dev/sr0
[20:33] <jrib> nawledgebeats: that looks right
[20:33] <nawledgebeats> jrib: lol so now what???
[20:33] <shaDykhan> if i do Ubuntu on bootcamp how hard is it to fix the compatability issues?
[20:33] <jrib> nawledgebeats: go to gnome shell and change the theme settings
[20:33] <CommKav> thanx
[20:33] <jrib> shaDykhan: what compatibility issues?
[20:34] <nawledgebeats> jrib: lemme give that a try
[20:34] <oszt> Hi, does anybody know if there are older versions of adobe flash player for linux available? I'm looking to install version 9 or 10
[20:34] <OSreX> hi, is 12.10 going to include mono out of the box?
[20:34] <jrib> !12.10 | OSreX
[20:34] <L3mce> CommKav: frankly the easiest way would be to: cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)'
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> cs278: none of the version 9s are supported now and Lucid is EOL in April next year
[20:34] <OSreX> thanks jrib :)
[20:34] <rollitup> BluesKaj: still no sucess
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> cs278: I recommend a clean install or Precise
[20:34] <shaDykhan> jrib im assming there will be compatibility issues
[20:34] <jrib> shaDykhan: :x
[20:34] <L3mce> CommKav: or perhaps grep -E if you have no egrep
[20:35] <jrib> shaDykhan: you're just talking about installing on an intel-mac, yes?
[20:35] <shaDykhan> yes on another partition
[20:35] <jrib> !mac | shaDykhan
[20:35] <nawledgebeats> jrib: sry but how do i "go to gnome shell"
[20:35] <shaDykhan> thax
[20:35] <shaDykhan> thanks*
[20:35] <nawledgebeats> jrib: is that what im choosing when i log in?
[20:35] <jrib> nawledgebeats: I don't know :)  I think that "gnome" session at your login screen puts you into it
[20:35] <BluesKaj> rollitup, I'm not familiar with Mudita24 , does it replace alsa as the default sound server
[20:36] <nawledgebeats> jrib: right on thank you so much for the help
[20:36] <nawledgebeats> jrib: :D ill try that then come back with what happened
[20:36] <nawledgebeats> jrib: thanks again.
[20:37] <camaro> Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *chat"
[20:37] <rollitup> i am not sure
[20:37] <camaro> Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *chat*
[20:37] <rollitup> but from the last time i had got it to working the levels on mudita were working so i don't know what that means
[20:37] <camaro> Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list ubuntu
[20:37] <erkan^> is openJDK or Java good?
[20:38] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys I'm new at ubuntu and I was wondering why my downloaded items keeps ending as a .tar file. How would i extract it and end up with a application
[20:38] <camaro> Example usage: /msg alis list ubuntu
[20:38] <BluesKaj> camaro,  stop that
[20:38] <camaro> sorry
[20:38] <elijah> L3mce: It is more to do with how do I get some output from one program into Ubuntu's clipboard, it happens to be MS is involved.
[20:38] <camaro> I didn't realize what I was doing until now... :(
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> erkan^: do you want Oracle java?
[20:39] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys I'm new at ubuntu and I was wondering why my downloaded items keeps ending as a .tar file. How would i extract it and end up with a application
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> TheRealZeus: what are yuo downloading?
[20:39] <erkan^> i don't care, ActionParsnip
[20:39] <dr_willis> TheRealZeus:  .tar is a type of archive file  just like .zip
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> erkan^: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:39] <dr_willis> TheRealZeus:  extract it and do whatever you need to do with its contents
[20:39] <BluesKaj> rollitup, do you have alsa-base alsa-utils installed
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> TheRealZeus: most things you will need to install are in software centre
[20:40] <TheRealZeus> no i do not have it installed
[20:40] <rollitup> how do i check that ?
[20:40] <TheRealZeus> nevermind
[20:40] <erkan^> ah thx
[20:40] <L3mce> elijah: you are asking about formatting from an MS product. MSWord does not run on ubuntu. If you are running a vm, depending on the vm, you will need extra bits... for instance in virtualbox you will need guest additions to carry over clipboarding etc... however the format output... that is outside of the scope of support here.
[20:40] <dr_willis> erkan^:  Thers the open sourced java *iced tea* then the Oracle java.
[20:40] <erkan^> is PPA good, ActionParsnip ?
[20:40] <erkan^> or dangerous?
[20:40] <erkan^> that is right, dr
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> erkan^: its great
[20:40] <BluesKaj> rollitup, type alsamixer in the terminal
[20:40] <elijah> L3mce: Good to know, thanks
[20:41] <toshgsh> is there any way to be able to view 2 conkys in a dual monitor setup?
[20:41] <nawledgebeats> jrib: ya so nothing happened but at least that was kinda a crash course on terminal use thanks for all the help/
[20:41] <TheRealZeus> what did u mean by do watever you need to do with its contents
[20:41] <jrib> nawledgebeats: you still need to select your themes
[20:41] <dr_willis> TheRealZeus:  we have no idea whats in the arvhivces..  so you read the docs on whatever it is.. and do whats needed.
[20:41] <jrib> nawledgebeats: that just makes them available
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> TheRealZeus: well, the archive could contain anything, it could be source or it could be binaries
[20:41] <chicognu> I can install ubuntu to my pendrive just like I will do to my hdd ?
[20:41] <nawledgebeats> jrib; i dont know how to do that
[20:42] <dr_willis> chicognu:  yes. I do that all the time.
[20:42] <rollitup> yes i have alsamixer
[20:42] <nawledgebeats> jrib: i tried using the gnome tweak tool "advanced settings"
[20:42] <jrib> nawledgebeats: apparently you can use gnome-tweak-tool.  You might also check for some sort of "appearance properties" program or similar
[20:43] <nawledgebeats> jrib: ya all the options there, were there before we did what we did.
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> TheRealZeus: what is the file you have?
[20:43] <jrib> nawledgebeats: even for the icons?
[20:43] <nawledgebeats> mhm
[20:44] <nawledgebeats> jrib: yes.
[20:44] <jrib> nawledgebeats: weird.  Try some other themes I suppose
[20:45] <ner0x> Is there a way to load my .bashrc really quick before a cron job?
[20:45] <nawledgebeats> jrib: OHH it is there!!!
[20:45] <dr_willis> ner0x:  'source .bashrc' as part of a script
[20:45] <nawledgebeats> jrib: it just hasnt changed the icons on the home bar.
[20:46] <MacUser_> Hello everyone, I own a Macbook Pro 8,1 and am thinkning of installing Ubuntu 12.04 as my only operating system. I haven't managed to find any informantion on the hardware support for this install
[20:46] <ner0x> dr_willis: It's perl, not bash. system( 'source ~/.bashrc' ); ?
[20:46] <MacUser_> Does anyone know of this information?
[20:46] <jrib> nawledgebeats: there are two aspects to it: the icons and the theme itself
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> ner0x: if you cron as your user, is the environment from ~/.bashrc not used already?
[20:46] <dr_willis> ner0x:  make cron run a shell script that sources it then runs the perl stuff.
[20:46] <jrib> ner0x: also you may need to log out and back in (or restart the bar somehow)
[20:46] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  thats what i was thinking also.. ;)
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ner0x: I'd imagine you'd need it if you cron'd as root
[20:47] <TheRealZeus> Thanks for the help guys!
[20:47] <OerHeks> MacUser_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[20:47] <jrib> seems strange to source .bashrc in a cron script though
[20:49] <MacUser_> OerHeks I have found that page, but it only has information on 11.10 and it is my understand that 12.04 should have better hardware support
[20:49] <nawledgebeats> jrib: thank you so much everything is working great :D
[20:49] <nawledgebeats> jrib: ill be back im sure.
[20:51] <ner0x> I'll just have to absolute url the actual perl.
[20:51] <OerHeks> MacUser_, i don't own a mac, i found this howto, maybe any help > http://albert.rierol.net/ubuntu-12.04-LTS-macbook-pro.html
[20:51] <BluesKaj> rollitup,  Mudita24 , is it totally necessary for your purposes ?
[20:51] <rollitup> i feel yes coz it was working when the last time i had this card working
[20:52] <violetina> any idea why all videos swap R with G colors at playback :s or yuv messup not really sure but colors are wrong for sure
[20:52] <dr_willis> violetina:  you are refering to Youtube videos?
[20:52] <violetina> nvidia drivers
[20:52] <violetina> dr_willis: no not the smurf bug ;)
[20:52] <dr_willis> violetina:  ;)
[20:53] <violetina> dr_willis: avi and mpg both act the same btw
[20:53] <dr_willis> violetina:  an avi is a container that could have the same codec as the mpg.
[20:53] <L3mce> MacUser_: one of our users has one fully functional except perhaps bluetooth on 1004. Nic needs some help prior to boot... and several params set.
[20:53] <dr_willis> violetina:  as a test you could convert one of the problem vids to some other codecs. ;)
[20:54] <L3mce> MacUser_: I expect 1204 would be even smoother.
[20:54] <violetina> dr_willis: i tried a vob (mpg2) and some xvid files
[20:54] <rollitup> and BluesKaj from what i read that mudita 24 is http://code.google.com/p/mudita24/
[20:55] <dr_willis> violetina:  havent noticed any issues here. but i am on 12.10 :) with its own issues..
[20:55] <MacUser_> L3mce I see, but I would need some kind of guide for setting parameters as I'm not that computer savay
[20:55] <MacUser_> L3mce if ubuntu 12.04 needed it
[20:56] <violetina> hmm not my computer btw , how do i see the ubuntu version?
[20:56] <violetina> ah found it 12.04 lts
[20:57] <average_drifter> violetina: cat /etc/lsb-release ?
[20:58] <violetina> hmm seems in xbmc it is fine , tho mplayer vlc and totem all messup :x
[20:58] <L3mce> MacUser_: his wiki is specific to our project and may not at all be relevant to 1204. 1204 MAY work out of the box, but older guides, will almost certainly show you how to make what does not in 1204 work.
[20:59] <solifugus> join #php
[21:00] <violetina> must be something funky with libav or ffmpeg not sure what ubuntu uses , guess xbmc not uses the system libav
[21:02] <violetina> anyway i can now watch it , will try to find out more about this tomorrow tho i really dont know anything about ubuntu (i'm a gentoo user ;) )
[21:02] <themindbenders> how do i send free international sms?
[21:02] <tuxatcom> Does anyone know which preprocessor file i should include when i want to use the getch() in C?
[21:02] <_Tristan> apt-get install wine wants to install absolutelyEverything:i386. What do?
[21:03] <violetina> btw anyway to run none composite X ?
[21:03] <usuario> gello
[21:03] <xine> tuxatcom: getch is Dos/Windows specific, and usually found in conio.h
[21:03] <usuario> hello
[21:04] <usuario> I am from spain
[21:04] <usuario> hablais español?+
[21:04] <usuario> ola gordon
[21:04] <tuxatcom> xine, Is there a similar function like getch() in linux?
[21:04] <violetina> compiz acting funky on some apps esp kdenlive , or is there a way to edit the compiz settings?
[21:05] <willdabeast> So I am currently booting a Win XP usb in virtualbox, but there is no where to recognize the usb during boot. Any suggestions?
[21:05] <gordonjcp> tuxatcom: you can use the ncurses library to get something like getch()
[21:05] <xine> tuxatcom: there are replacements for all aspects of it, but not a single function that does everything. what exactly do you need?
[21:05] <Noettore> hi, i have a problem: i have some servers that shares some directory with samba and they worked well until last week. Now any pc can't see these shares but if I use "smbclient -L <ip>" or if I enter in Nautilus "smb://<ip>" I can see and access them.
[21:06] <tuxatcom> gordonjcp, i tired the ncureses.h but i got an error.
[21:06] <xine> tuxatcom: getchar in stdio.h  ( <cstdio> in c++ ) covers quite a bit
[21:06] <gordonjcp> tuxatcom: bummer
[21:07] <gordonjcp> tuxatcom: lacking a crystal ball, I cannot help you with this error
[21:07] <willdabeast> Anyone know how to boot from usb in virtualbox?
[21:07] <tuxatcom> xine, I include stdio.h. I mean a function that can do same tasks like the getch().
[21:08] <rollitup> BluesKaj: i also tried adding this line options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010LT
[21:08] <mwelsh> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, and VirtualBox to run a RedHat 5 virtual environment.  I am connecting from a windows laptop to the RedHat VM to make a VNC session.  The problem is that Ubuntu detects that there is no monitor attached and resets the resolution from my preference to 800x600.  How can I disable this automatic update of the resolution?
[21:08] <xine> tuxatcom: read what I wrote. there is no single function doing _exactly_ the same. so what do you use getch for?
[21:08] <rollitup> like it has been posted on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309187
[21:08] <erkan^> when is 12.10 releases?
[21:08] <rollitup> btw what was the line that you had suggested me to add can't remember it
[21:08] <jimbo_> Hello all
[21:09] <jimbo_> would like to request some help with a Gobi2000 modem
[21:09] <tuxatcom> gordonjcp, sorry this is the error when i try to use ncurses.h.
[21:09] <g105b> Just connected to my PPTP VPN, where I can now access everything within the LAN as if I'm there, but my computer doesn't get any internet connection through the VPN - can someone help me figure this out?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> !who | rollitup
[21:10] <erkan^> !12.10
[21:10] <erkan^> ah 17 april?
[21:10] <rollitup> sorry it was for BluesKaj
[21:10] <tuxatcom> xine, I only what to use this function for waiting for a user input to end the programm.
[21:10] <genii-around> No, 25th October
[21:10] <erkan^> uh? ok
[21:10] <erkan^> dus donderdag
[21:10] <danthegeek> !whois
[21:10] <erkan^> (-:
[21:10] <xine> tuxatcom: what happens if you use getchar() ?
[21:11] <rollitup> is there any one else who uses M-audio Delta 1010LT soundcard on ubuntu ?
[21:11] <xine> (except that you can enter multiple chars...)
[21:11] <BluesKaj> rollitup, options snd_ice1712 index=0
[21:12] <rollitup> BluesKaj: does this go under this line # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
[21:12] <tuxatcom> xine, Thanks, getchar() works fine :)
[21:12] <xine> apart from that, since there is no "automatic console vanishing" going on on *nix, waiting for a user input only to quit is a rather rare ... "feature" ;-}
[21:12] <BluesKaj> rollitup, put it at the bottom , that works
[21:13] <Maff> Hi. Diagnosing an issue with a client's server. For some reason, the permissions on /dev/null are being set to 0600 at boot when they should be 0666
[21:13] <_Tristan> again, trying to install wine1.5 in an amd64 world, getting like 50 :i386 dependencies...?
[21:13] <Ramtron> Can I enable Control+C and Control+V in the Linux Terminal?
[21:13] <xine> Ramtron: there is no "Linux Terminal"
[21:13] <Ramtron> .........
[21:14] <maki_> hi,i want to implement something like multiseat
[21:14] <jimbo_> yes ramtron press use Shift+Ctrl+V
[21:14] <Ramtron> Can I enable it?
[21:14] <tuxatcom> xine, Don't convict me :) I'm a stupid newbie.
[21:14] <xine> there are a few dozen terminal emulators
[21:14] <Ramtron> thanks
[21:14] <maki_> appart from messing with .conf files, is there anything else to it?
[21:14] <jimbo_> your welcome Ramtron
[21:14] <Ramtron> I love you, jimbo_
[21:15] <jimbo_> LoL thank Ramtron
[21:15] <TJ-> maki_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[21:15] <maki_> yeah, I come from there
[21:15] <maki_> don't i need to install anything else?
[21:16] <jimbo_> can anyone help me figure out how to enable my Gobi2000 hardware?
[21:17] <willdabeast> Does anyone know much about Virtual Machine?
[21:18] <dr_willis> maki_:  multiseat is still  a work in progress. i have seen several people in here working on it. and I think working on that  help page mentioned above
[21:18] <DELL> HI
[21:18] <BluesKaj> rollitup, I think the sound will work without Mudita24  . Is pulseaudio installed ?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> oops
[21:18] <nurfed> hi
[21:19] <dr_willis> willdabeast:  you mean 'virtual box' ?
[21:19] <Guest57610> does any body knows turnkey-twiki default web passwd
[21:19] <DELL> WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
[21:19] <jimbo_> looking for help with getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager
[21:20] <gordonjcp> jimbo_: plug card in, "Edit Connections..."
[21:20] <jimbo_> gordonjcp: it's an embedded card
[21:21] <Fuzzles> in Ubuntu how do i change so it will login automatically?
[21:21] <gordonjcp> jimbo_: then, "Edit Connections..."
[21:21] <gordonjcp> jimbo_: and stick in the details
[21:21] <Maff> Has anyone had experience with permission issues on /dev/null on 12.04 x86 under OpenVZ?
[21:22] <jimbo_> gordonjcp thats done; no change
[21:24] <crimsonhat> Hello. I have a server connected to a switch and I was wondering how I can get a client that is also connected to the switch to talk to the server?
[21:24] <jimbo_> gordonjcp:  no change with the "Edit Connections"
[21:25] <zykotick9> crimsonhat: assuming you don't have a DHCP server.  set static IPs on both machines...
[21:25] <doug1> anyone got any suggestions as to alternatives to packaging software as deb's? FPM maybe?
[21:26] <crimsonhat> zykotick9: The server is connected to a modem. Should I just set the server as a dhcp server?
[21:26] <doug1> The reason I ask that is because debs are a nightmare
[21:26] <jimbo_> looking for help with and/or point me in the right direction for getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager
[21:27] <zykotick9> crimsonhat: maybe.  that's really up to you.  best of luck, i have no experience using a computer as a router, so can't help ya.
[21:27] <nurfed> I got some problem with gnome2. can i ask about it here?
[21:27] <laen> Wow many peoples!
[21:27] <zykotick9> nurfed: are you using 10.04 Lucid?
[21:27] <L3mce> doug1: ubuntu uses the debian package management system... so... no... nothing else is recommended.
[21:27] <doug1> L3mce: yeah that sux
[21:28] <nurfed> zykotick9: im using 12.04
[21:28] <zykotick9> nurfed: then you aren't using gnome2
[21:28] <NET||abuse> hi there large large list of people.
[21:28] <L3mce> doug1: you can make cheater packages if need be... but... once you do it the right way for a while, it really isn't a big deal.
[21:29] <NET||abuse> I have a new box, i have a mouse and a monitor, but no keyboard, is it possible to install an ubuntu server with ssh to a disk without keyboard?
[21:29] <doug1> L3mc3: What is the right way? There's more toolsets to build packages than I can count.
[21:29] <nurfed> zykotick9: ?
[21:30] <zykotick9> nurfed: there is no supported gnome2 for 12.04... thus, you need to be more accurate with what you want help with.  best of luck.
[21:30] <ardchoille> !packaging > doug1
[21:30] <rollitup> still struggling but no sound
[21:30] <rollitup> :(
[21:31] <doug1> ubottu: I don't think I see a private message.....
[21:31] <doug1> grrr
[21:31] <doug1> ardchoille: no idea what that means
[21:31] <L3mce> doug1: the right way is to use dpkg... lol and follow the package maintenance guideline from debian... but checkinstall is the easy way.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: reboot to test
[21:32] <jimbo_> looking for help with and/or point me in the right direction for getting Mobile Broadband to show in modem-manager
[21:32] <zykotick9> doug1: fyi, packages created by checkinstall should NOT be distributed to other systems.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: source http://holdenweb.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/ubuntu-710-sound-on-asus-m2npv-vm.html
[21:32] <veryhappy> hi guys, got a problem with my sound, when i connect my earphones then the sound omes over phones and speakers, what can i do there to stop that?
[21:32] <doug1> L3mce: What about the other toolsets like fakeroot, dpkg-buildpackage and so on and so on and so and so on....?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[21:32] <MASTERPIECE> how is chanel    ubuntu bg
[21:33] <L3mce> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/   doug1
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> veryhappy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[21:33] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: will try but all the guides I've used haven't allowed me to enable the wwan card
[21:33] <zykotick9> nurfed: if you tried to actually install gnome2 on your system, MY suggestion would be "reinstall" (and don't try that again).  please don't pm people without asking first, see "/msg ubottu pm" for details.
[21:34] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: brb reboot
[21:34] <ardchoille> doug1: the bot should have sent you a pm containing some info on packaging
[21:35] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/wiYuASMX
[21:35] <L3mce> doug1: the easy (wrong) way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356
[21:35] <MASTERPIECE> how to patch my kernel
[21:35] <Kheo> hello
[21:35] <nurfed> zykotick9: excuse me.
[21:35] <zykotick9> !kernel > MASTERPIECE does this help?
[21:35] <Kheo> I want to add an user to ftp how can I do this ?
[21:36] <Kheo> ?
[21:37] <zykotick9> Kheo: (sidenote: FTP should die) does your ftp server keep a separate database for user accounts, OR do you just create a regular system user (typically i always had the later, when i used to run ftp servers)
[21:37] <gordonjcp> Kheo: never ever use ftp
[21:38] <L3mce> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html    Kheo
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> veryhappy: run:  chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh     select to upload to the server and a URL will be generated, what is the URL please?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> rollitup, I think the sound will work without Mudita24. Is pulseaudio installed ?
[21:38] <doug1> ardchoille: yeah, see... that's the issue. We're not putting these packages together for distribution. We just want to use them internally, so this is waaaaay overkill and overengineered for our needs
[21:38] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: i am back after rebooting and trying but still the same
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Kheo: sudo usermod -a -G ftp username
[21:38] <rollitup> also the soundcard that is not working is the secondary one by M-audio not the onboard card
[21:38] <doug1> ardchoille: I could spend the next year just reading these docs. I don't have time for that and I don't want to deploy software with tarballs either. I'm an ops guy, not a developer or release engineer
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: ok then remove the line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:39] <ardchoille> doug1: I see
[21:39] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: /tmp/alsa-info.txt.DKIFX3e0I7
[21:39] <laen> rollitup: reboot again, you normally have to reboot 3 times
[21:39] <doug1> ardchoille: With redhat, you have a single spec file... and you use ONE command to build the package. Nice and simple
[21:39] <rollitup> BluesKaj: no i dunno if pulseaudio is installed
[21:39] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I had
[21:40] <BluesKaj> rollitup, I'll repeat ,I think the sound will work without Mudita24. Is pulseaudio installed ?
[21:40] <rollitup> I hadn't added the lines in alsa-base.conf i ran them in the terminal
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> veryhappy: ok, run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.DKIFX3e0I7
[21:40] <Kheo> does anybody knows how to help me ?
[21:40] <Kheo> I want to unistall vsftp
[21:40] <dr_willis> Kheo:  and how did you install it?
[21:40] <jimbo_> wwan device isn't found, how to solve this?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Kheo: use apt-get or software centre
[21:40] <Kheo> ...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: what wifi chip does it use
[21:41] <Kheo> can anybody help me ?!
[21:41] <Kheo> ..
[21:41] <dr_willis> hard for us to help when we get answers like '...'
[21:41] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: Novatel
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> khaard: well, you installed it, just reverse the command
[21:41] <BluesKaj> rollitup, did you use nano in the terminal to add the lines
[21:41] <Kheo> I just want to remove vsftp and do a fresh new install.
[21:41] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256939/
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: novatel don't make wifi chips
[21:41] <Kheo> ...
[21:41] <jimbo_> oh sorry for wireless its the AR928X
[21:41] <doug1> fpm may be a better alternative to debian packages
[21:41] <dr_willis> Kheo:  if you used the package manager tools to install, then use it to purge/reinstall...
[21:41] <rollitup> no BluesKaj i used gedit
[21:41] <Kheo> I'm using Server.
[21:42] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: oh sorry for wireless its the AR928X
[21:42] <dr_willis> Kheo:  so you use apt-get    instead of the gui tools..
[21:42] <Kheo> It's INSTALED
[21:42] <BluesKaj> rollitup, do you have pulseaudio installed?
[21:42] <Kheo> I want to REMOVE it
[21:42] <Kheo> and do a fresh INSTALL
[21:42] <dr_willis> Kheo:  yes.. apt-get remove pacakgename
[21:42] <rollitup> how to find it pulseaudio is installed ?
[21:42] <Kheo> you got it ?!
[21:42] <dr_willis> Kheo:  you dont seem to be the one getting it..
[21:42] <doug1> it would also be nice if when you used apt-get it would friggin tell you what version it was installing because it prompted you to proceed.
[21:42] <BluesKaj> rollitup, just type it in the terminal
[21:43] <theplanet> Kheo, do you know how to remove a package?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veryhappy: run: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:43] <doug1> PLUS.... why don't debian packages allow you to set the owner/perms on a file? You have to put chmod commands in the postinst file.
[21:43] <jimbo_> how do i private message a person?
[21:43] <rollitup> BluesKaj: i get this E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: and the output of: lsb_release -sc
[21:43] <Kheo> ok I removed.
[21:43] <Kheo> now..
[21:43] <Kheo> what can I do to have different users..use ftp ?
[21:43] <spajderix> hi
[21:43] <dr_willis> Kheo:  apt-get also supports a purge, and reinstall option....
[21:44] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip:  precise
[21:44] <Kheo> I duno all commands..
[21:44] <dr_willis> Kheo:  clarify what you mean.. you install a ftp server, the users can ftp in normally...
[21:44] <a_b0y> how do i install Microsoft fonts in Ubuntu?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> rollitup, ok install pavucontrol
[21:44] <Kheo> no
[21:44] <Kheo> they cant.
[21:44] <Kheo> so..help me please
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: try: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[21:44] <dr_willis> Kheo:  then you need to configure whatever ftp server you are uysing to allow it.
[21:44] <zykotick9> Kheo: fyi, purge removes the system settings for the package (BUT not settings in users home directories!)
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: sudo modprobe -r ath9k; sudo modprobe ath9k
[21:45] <Kheo> I can't use root user to login on FTP LOL
[21:45] <Kheo> ^^
[21:45] <spajderix> after an upgrade some time ago a dedicated space on right side of my touchpad stopped working, scrolling in general works, but a bit on the left from a scroll space, and space itself seems to be disabled, does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:45] <Kheo> LOL
[21:45] <dr_willis> Kheo:  That would be very STUPID to allow root to login directly to ftp.
[21:45] <Kheo> yes but..I don't have any users yet..
[21:45] <ardchoille> Kheo: you shouldn't be using root user at all, the root account is supposed to be locked.
[21:45] <rollitup> BluesKaj: I installed pavucontrol
[21:45] <dr_willis> Kheo:  and theres no direct logging in as root normally on ubuntu
[21:46] <dr_willis> Kheo:  so... make a user?
[21:46] <Kheo> why ftp server do not let me login with my user ?!??!?!
[21:46] <Kheo> wtf
[21:46] <dr_willis> Kheo:  you just said you had no users...
[21:46] <dr_willis> Kheo:  you just said you had no users...
[21:46] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: Command was executed and "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" was inserted.
[21:46]  * zykotick9 ponders sending "root" password across wide open TCP used by FTP :(..
[21:46] <Kheo> I HAVE MY user...
[21:46] <Kheo> OMFG
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> veryhappy: cool, give it a reboot
[21:46] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: Ok, thank you, see you right back.
[21:47] <Costeelation> someone know the server ftp for download ubuntu?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> rollitup, ok now set up the inputs and outputs you normally use , but do it in pavucontrol , alt+f2 pavucontrol , will bring it up
[21:47] <Kheo> so no help..
[21:47] <Kheo> thanks for no help.
[21:47] <L3mce> Kheo: you are giving conflicting information.
[21:47] <dr_willis> Kheo:  given the lack of actual information youve given us.. it seems you need to be more specific
[21:47] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: permission denied, even with sudo
[21:47] <zykotick9> Costeelation: torrent is SO much better.  faster / with error control!
[21:47] <dr_willis> Kheo:  #1 - what ftp server are you using.
[21:47] <Kheo> vsftpd
[21:48] <Kheo> I can't use it..
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: at what point do you get the permission denied
[21:48] <Kheo> he do not let me do anything..
[21:48] <dr_willis> You just said you uninstalled it..  did you reinstall it?
[21:48] <L3mce> no users != a user... and did you read the link I gave?
[21:48] <Kheo> YES
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Kheo: why not install openssh-server and use SFTP
[21:48] <Costeelation> zykotick9: :(  then no ther is ftp?
[21:48] <L3mce> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html  Kheo
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Kheo: don't use ftp
[21:48] <rollitup> BluesKaj: it still does not work
[21:48] <Kheo> OMFG
[21:48] <Kheo> !!!!!!!!
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Kheo: especially not if you don't know how to configure it
[21:48] <Kheo> LOL /
[21:48] <Costeelation> zykotick9: i will want probe
[21:48] <dr_willis> Kheo:  using things like OMFG and !!!. tend to get you ignored...
[21:48] <Kheo> ...omfg
[21:48] <L3mce> stop with the hystrionics Kheo.
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Kheo: ftp sucks, and pretty much guarantees your computer will get broken into
[21:48] <L3mce> stop using that acronym here as well.
[21:49] <dr_willis> Kheo:  i suggest a  aread of the ftp server docs you are using.. have a nice day.
[21:49] <Kheo> so nobody can help me using vsftpd ?
[21:49] <dr_willis> Kheo:  you read its docs/guides yet? thats where to begin.
[21:49] <Kheo> yes
[21:49] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[21:49] <L3mce> Not if you are unable/unwilling to read the help I have put here twice now
[21:49] <Kheo> I read all.
[21:49] <zykotick9> Costeelation: search for your local mirror in a web browser would be my suggestion.
[21:49] <dr_willis> and its irc channel.
[21:49] <Kheo> so nobody can help me using vsftpd ?
[21:49] <dr_willis> Kheo:  i doubt if you have.
[21:49] <Kheo> I read them all.
[21:49] <Kheo> so nobody can help me using vsftpd ?
[21:49] <L3mce> Kheo: third time... WHAT ERROR DO YOU GET FOLLOWING THIS http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-creating-ftp-account-with-vsftpds.html
[21:49] <L8D> OMG Ubuntu!
[21:50] <Costeelation> zykotick9: ok thanks :)
[21:50] <L3mce> !details | Kheo
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Kheo: the best help I can give is "do not use ftp"
[21:50] <Kheo> I said my problem.
[21:50] <rollitup> BluesKaj: no luck :)
[21:50] <Kheo> I can't use vsftpd.
[21:50] <L3mce> !details | Kheo
[21:50] <Kheo> he do nothing..
[21:50] <L8D> Damn you ubuntu...ruining the first experiences of could-of-been linux users!
[21:50] <wlcosta> Kheo, may I suggest something?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> jimbo_: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Kheo: use sftp which is basically part of openssh-server, like loads of people have suggested ;-)
[21:50] <Kheo> I can't use this vsftpd !!!]
[21:51] <zykotick9> !ot > L8D
[21:51] <gordonjcp> Kheo: don't use it then
[21:51] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: ok bear with me a moment
[21:51] <Kheo> LOL
[21:51] <Kheo> ...
[21:51] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: Still output in Earphones + Speaker.
[21:51] <wlcosta> Steam is comming. Calm down.
[21:51] <fly[ac100]> strange thing - I have add "deb-src http://debian.sur5r.net/i3/ precise universe" to my sources.list and apt-get source i3 give me new release from this repo, but apt-build source i3 use version from official repo
[21:51] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[21:51] <Kheo> so..can anybody help me ?!
[21:51] <fly[ac100]> is apt-build too smart?
[21:52] <Kheo> !help
[21:52] <Kheo> I want to use vsftpd I install it, I have my user can't do anything on the FTP !
[21:52] <wlcosta> Kheo, you log in with you user and it gives nothing?
[21:52] <L3mce> Not if you refuse to answer the questions and provide us the information we NEED to help you... for example "I typed adduser -c 'FTP USER Tom' -m tom  and it did X."
[21:53] <L3mce> No. I can't read your mind. I do not have a crystal ball.
[21:53] <Kheo> wlcosta: my ftp client
[21:53] <Kheo> gives me this
[21:53] <Kheo> [03.10.2012 00:51:25] 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/home/santo
[21:53] <Kheo> ERROR:>   	[03.10.2012 00:51:25] Syntax error: command unrecognized.
[21:53] <Kheo> ERROR:>   	[03.10.2012 00:51:25] Can't login. Disconnecting...
[21:53] <Kheo> wtf
[21:53] <wlcosta> Kheo, run it as sudo.
[21:53] <jimbo_> ActionParsnip: well the commands wnet through without a hitch however I'm not sure what it accomplished
[21:53] <Kheo> run what with sudo ?
[21:54] <wlcosta> The software. Run it as an administrator.
[21:54] <Kheo> how ?
[21:54] <Kheo> I'm using server..
[21:54] <wlcosta> Server? Ubuntu server?
[21:54] <Kheo> YES
[21:54] <Kheo> omfg
[21:54] <wlcosta> So you're running it by the terminal via ssh on a cloud, is it this?
[21:54] <zykotick9> fly[ac100]: when you run your "apt-get source" you need to specify to get the package from that repo you've added, or it'll grab the default one.  i forget the exact switch.
[21:55] <Kheo> YES
[21:55] <XaD[SwE]> 500 OOPS that's not a good sign
[21:55] <Kheo> can you help me ?!
[21:55] <wlcosta> try sudo vsftpd
[21:55] <Kheo> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[21:55] <wlcosta> just add sudo at the beggining of the command
[21:55] <veryhappy> ActionParsnip: when i look into alsamixer then i have more controller but once i mute one controller everything gets muted until i use my volume keys over the keyboard.
[21:55] <Kheo> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[21:55] <L3mce> Kheo stop using that acronym. Stop with the capitals. Stop being rude. Stop insisting you are entitled to help. We are trying to help you, and you are making it difficult, and removing our motivation to do so.
[21:55] <Costeelation> zykotick9: this is the server cdimage.ubuntu.com :D :D
[21:55] <jimbo_> how do i PM a user?
[21:56] <veryhappy> jimbo: here in chat "/msg name text"
[21:56] <Kheo> L3mce: you're very usefull thanks man !
[21:56] <jimbo_> how do i PM a user? I'm using XChat
[21:56] <L3mce> I am... You just refuse to follow directions.
[21:56] <Kheo> L3mce: OK THANKS.
[21:56] <L3mce> Stop with the caps.
[21:56] <wlcosta> Kheo, so...
[21:56] <dr_willis> there are several alternative ftp servers in the repos also.
[21:56] <zykotick9> jimbo_: safest answer is dont.  "/msg jimbo_ Message"
[21:56] <veryhappy> jimbo_: by the way: always asking the same question doesn't help us all.
[21:57] <Kheo> L3mce: Ok Thank you !
[21:57] <Kheo> wlcosta: ?
[21:57] <L3mce> You are welcome.
[21:57] <dr_willis> jimbo_:  just right click on the nick and open a new window.
[21:57] <Kheo> L3mce: Ok.
[21:57] <wlcosta> Kheo, have you tried to run it as a sudo?
[21:57] <Kheo> Yes !
[21:57] <Kheo> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[21:57] <wlcosta> Shit.
[21:57] <L3mce> !language
[21:57] <fly[ac100]> zykotick9, apt-get works fine, problem with apt-build
[21:58] <Kheo> wlcosta: can you help or not ?
[21:58] <wlcosta> Yes, I can.
[21:58] <zykotick9> fly[ac100]: sorry, i've never built a deb (other then the cheat of checkinstall).  good luck man.
[21:58] <wlcosta> First we will have to change something
[21:58] <wlcosta> type nano /etc/vsftpd.conf
[21:59] <wlcosta> and search for LISTEN=NO
[21:59] <Kheo> k
[21:59] <wlcosta> change it for LISTEN=YES
[21:59] <wlcosta> and try to run it as a sudo again.
[21:59] <L3mce> fly[ac100]: I assume you have build-essentials installed?
[21:59] <Kheo> It's set with yes
[21:59] <Kheo> wlcosta: It's set with yes.
[21:59] <wlcosta> Damn.
[21:59] <L3mce> Kheo how did you install this?
[22:00] <L3mce> wlcosta: please stop cursing.
[22:00] <Kheo> sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[22:00] <dr_willis> You do need to restart the vsftp server after editing its cnfig file i belive.
[22:00] <L3mce> k...
[22:00] <Kheo> I did not edit anything
[22:00] <Kheo> It was..
[22:01] <Kheo> with set with YES
[22:01] <wlcosta> Kheo, is listen_ipv4 = YES too?
[22:01] <Kheo> let me check
[22:01] <Kheo> I don't have that.
[22:02] <wlcosta> Kheo, please try this: /etc/init.d/xinetd start
[22:02] <Kheo> what's that ?
[22:02] <L3mce> Kheo: nano that same config file again... do you have a pam_service_name  entry?
[22:02] <Kheo> yes L3mce I have.
[22:02] <theplanet> why is the maximum entropy as shown by `cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail` only 3968 bytes
[22:02] <Kheo> It's pointed to vsftpd
[22:02] <L3mce> is it =vsftpd Kheo?
[22:02] <L3mce> k
[22:03] <theplanet> on all my other machines it goes up to 4096
[22:03] <Kheo> yes
[22:03] <Kheo> wlcosta: what's that ?
[22:03] <Kheo> xinetd
[22:03] <Kheo> ?
[22:03] <wlcosta> Kheo, don't do that, I think L3mce has a better suggestion.
[22:03] <veryhappy> does anyone in here know something about wwan hardware support?
[22:04] <Kheo> I don't know why my FTP Server stop working correctly..I used with my user..and now I can't access It.
[22:04] <Kheo> :(
[22:04] <veryhappy> shall be about wwan mobile broadband, please help jimbo_ in that point. thank you
[22:04] <Kheo> I was trying to do a user to access my ftp..and I do not succed.
[22:04] <wlcosta> Kheo, I'm leaving now. My last instructions are: enable vsftpd in xinetd --> nano /etc/xinetd.d/ and changing disabled = no and then running xinetd --> /etc/init.d/xinetd start
[22:05] <Kheo> wlcosta: ok but It has no bussiness with xinetd
[22:05] <zykotick9> wlcosta: xinetd is SO outdated.  doesn't vsftp run as it's own deamon?  [it might, but i'd be surprised]
[22:05] <Kheo> so..any suggestions ?
[22:05] <wlcosta> zykotick9, I dunno. That solved this problem with Gentoo users.
[22:06] <zykotick9> wlcosta: ubuntu != gentoo
[22:06] <wlcosta> OpenSuse *
[22:06] <veryhappy> ActionPa1snip: Sound still doesn't run properly.
[22:06] <wlcosta> zykotick9, yes, but vsftpd are the same.
[22:06] <a_b0y> a lot of these ubuntu help pages are outdated
[22:06] <Kheo> so no help ?
[22:06] <L3mce> Kheo: try hashing out that listen=yes (put # in front) and rcvsftpd stop and rcxinetd restart and try another ftp start
[22:07] <wlcosta> Kheo, i need to leave now. I'm sorry if I couldn't  help you.
[22:07] <wlcosta> Good night everybody.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> a_b0y  tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic abd point to the pages that need updates
[22:07] <Kheo> L3mce: where ?
[22:07] <L3mce> Kheo: If you continue to act as if nobody is trying to help you, I will stop. Your original question was how to add users.
[22:07] <ch33z> Gah! this is a pain with DNS
[22:07] <ch33z> maybe someone can help me its pretty simple
[22:07] <ch33z> but, not sure whats going on since other sites owrk
[22:07] <Kheo> no
[22:08] <Kheo> My question is why my ftp Server is not working ?!
[22:08] <ch33z> just figured
[22:08] <ch33z> I can help with the ftp server if you want
[22:08] <Kheo> speak then
[22:08] <ch33z> whats the issue
[22:08] <ch33z> screen shots?
[22:08] <Kheo> not working
[22:08] <ch33z> pastebin or ssh?
[22:08] <Kheo> can't login with ftp client
[22:08] <ch33z> let me see the issue
[22:08] <Kheo> I can't login with my user
[22:09] <Kheo> and I recive this
[22:09] <Kheo> 		[03.10.2012 01:09:09] 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/home/santo
[22:09] <Kheo> ERROR:>   	[03.10.2012 01:09:09] Syntax error: command unrecognized.
[22:09] <Kheo> ERROR:>   	[03.10.2012 01:09:09] Can't login. Disconnecting...
[22:09] <mcoffin> Hi! So I'm not a big-time ubuntu guy, I usually stick with raw debian, but I use ubuntu on live cds when I'm fixing friends computers just because its easier. I've been using 10.04 (I know) forever. I recently created a live cd of 12.04 and tried to boot it. It gets through everything and a "Welcome" window appears, but theres just a white rectangle in the middle of it.
[22:09] <ch33z> hmm are you using a static?
[22:09] <Kheo> santo it's the only user and it has root privileges
[22:09] <Kheo> static what ?
[22:09] <L3mce> edit /etc/vsftpd.conf       then in terminal run the command to shutdown  vs, and restart xinetd... and your FIRST question was <Kheo> I want to add an user to ftp how can I do this ?
[22:09] <mcoffin> Since its probably relevant, My graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 580
[22:09] <L3mce> You are too combative. I don't care to help any more.
[22:10] <L3mce> good luck
[22:10] <ch33z> is anyone good at DNS?
[22:10] <Kheo> ^^
[22:10] <Kheo> L3mce: good helper man cheers ^^
[22:10] <Kheo> ch33z: ?
[22:10] <ch33z> yes?
[22:10] <dr_willis> I can get anonymous ftp working wth vsftp , but my user cant login. ;) --> vsftp.conf --->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256968/
[22:10] <zykotick9> mcoffin: have you tried nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details
[22:10] <Kheo> ch33z: ?!
[22:10] <Kheo> ????
[22:10] <dr_willis> but im removeing vsftp for now. :) i dont need or suggest useing a ftp server in this day
[22:11] <Kheo> Can anybody help me ?!?!
[22:11] <ch33z> screw ftp
[22:11] <ch33z> use sfpt
[22:11] <ch33z> sftp
[22:11] <Kheo> looool
[22:11] <ch33z> thats like running to your with keys naked
[22:11] <ch33z> compared to wearing clothes to your house with keys
[22:11] <Kheo> Can anybody help me ?!?!
[22:11] <dr_willis> theres perhaps a dozen OTHER ftp servers in the repos other then vsftp
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Kheo
[22:12] <mcoffin> zykotick9, I'll give it a shot thanks. What exactly does nomodeset stand for out of curiosity?
[22:12] <Kheo> ubottu: It's helping me a lot !!! :)))
[22:12] <Kheo> yes..
[22:12] <Kheo> ^^
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> mcoffin  no mode set, no mode has been set
[22:12] <zykotick9> mcoffin: kernel setting resolution directly
[22:13] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get purge vsftpd  then   sudo apt-get install ftpd
[22:13] <dr_willis> then ftp in. ;)
[22:14] <ardchoille> What I would like to do is design my own login screen (text color, widget position, graphics, etc.) on Ubuntu 12.04. How do I go about this?
[22:14] <zykotick9> dr_willis: from "/info ftpd" it says source: linux-ftpd.  do you know what service is actually installed?
[22:14] <mcoffin> zykotick9, cool it works. I take it theres no way I could add that argument to some loader script on the ISO image before burning it?
[22:15] <Ramtron> Hi, does anyone know why my internet takes about 10-15 seconds to connect after resuming ubuntu, or turning the computer on?
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> ardchoille  use devhelp to learn develop GTK etc, it's in the repos
[22:15] <dr_willis> ardchoille:  check out lightdm themeing. good luck. :) i dont see much point in worrying about a screen you see for perhaps 10 sec when you login.
[22:15] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: thank you
[22:15] <zykotick9> mcoffin: it's basically an issue that only affects non-opensource drivers - so we get what we deserve!  i live with it, but it's ALWAYS the first thing i do with a new install ;)
[22:15] <Kheo> So anybody can help me with vsftpd ?!??!!??!!?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> !info devhelp
[22:16] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  no idea. I just serached the repos.
[22:16] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: what network chip?
[22:16] <Ramtron> Atheros I believe
[22:16] <zykotick9> dr_willis: cool, thanks ;)
[22:16] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  vsftp seems to be very locked down. ;)
[22:16] <Ramtron> How do I tell in ubuntu?
[22:16] <Kheo> anybody on this channel with 1000 bots can help me ?!
[22:16] <ardchoille> dr_willis: that's a very good point
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Ramtron, Whatsa matter that the 10-15 seconds you will never get back? ;)
[22:16] <Ramtron> I'm impatient, and I dislike waiting 10-15 seconds for it to connect
[22:16] <mcoffin> zykotick9, Hmmm.. unfortunate but deserved. Thanks for the help. I'd forgotten how quality IRC was (is?).
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> lol
[22:16] <zykotick9> dr_willis: ftp must die, this is a REALLY good page on the subject http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie (stolen from #debian's ftpmustdie factoid)
[22:17] <Kheo> !help
[22:17] <Kheo> So anybody can help me with vsftpd ?!??!!??!!?
[22:17] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  yep. read that and pasted the url here befor many a time.
[22:17] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: sudo lshw -C network     what is the chip?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Kheo  some 20 people in the channel #vsftp
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Kheo  correction: some 20 people in the channel #vsftpd
[22:18] <Kheo> ^^
[22:18] <dr_willis> Kheo:  or just use that 'ftpd' package... and dont use vsftpd
[22:18] <MisterMobile> Hello.  Anyone familliar with installing NaturallySpeaking 11.5??
[22:18] <Ramtron>  product: AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet
[22:18] <Ramtron>  vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
[22:18] <Kheo> dr_willis: I use what I want.
[22:18] <dr_willis> Kheo:  aparently you cant...
[22:18] <L3mce> lol
[22:18] <genii-around> MisterMobile: That would not be a linux application.
[22:18] <zykotick9> i like proftpd cause it was kinda apache-ish in configuration.  still remember slow login issue ;)  solution: disable reverse lookup
[22:18] <Kheo> I can't not because of me..I did what it's written by others..like you ^^
[22:19] <Kheo> so you can't help ?
[22:19] <L3mce> Ramtron: do you by chance have a wireless nic on this install as well, that perhaps NM is waiting to come alive before enabling networking?
[22:19] <Kheo> wasting my time with you ?
[22:19] <Ramtron> ActionPa1snip:  product: AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet
[22:19] <Ramtron>        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
[22:19] <Ramtron> no I don't
[22:19] <Ramtron> Not that I know of anyway
[22:19] <MisterMobile> Have tried using Wine and crossover with no luck
[22:19] <ch33z> Kheo please leave
[22:19] <dr_willis> ch33z:  too late. ;P
[22:20] <ch33z> Kheo is a troll
[22:20] <dr_willis> I neer did get vsftp for my system users working. just anonymous.. but its been purged now.
[22:20] <Sanguion> Any place I can go for ubuntu help? Is this the place?
[22:20] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Sanguion  it's here
[22:20] <ch33z> Sanguion nope
[22:20] <ch33z> wrong place
[22:21] <Ramtron> ActionPa1snip: Precise?
[22:21] <Sanguion> Great. Noveau hates me. I get an infinite loop while attempting to instal Ubuntu.
[22:21] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: cool
[22:21] <dr_willis> Sanguion:  try the nomodeset option?
[22:21] <Ramtron> Any ideas?
[22:21] <L3mce> Ramtron: output of lspci -nn | grep -iE '(ethernet|wlan|wireless)'
[22:21] <L3mce> is it more than one line?
[22:21] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: if you set a static IP is it ok?
[22:22] <Sanguion> dr_willis: How do I try that option? There is never an opportunity to use a console or change options.
[22:22] <L3mce> good q ActionPa1snip
[22:22] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Sanguion
[22:22] <Ramtron> ActionPa1snip, I dunno haha
[22:22] <Ramtron> L3mce:05:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1063] (rev c0)
[22:22] <dr_willis> Sanguion:  you hit space when ya see a man=keyboard icon then F5 I belive
[22:22] <Sanguion> Oh. Will try, thanks.
[22:22] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: worth trying, also try a different port on the switch/router/whatever
[22:23] <Ramtron> It does it with all the internets I connect to, not just one
[22:24] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: try a static IP. Are there any bugs reported?
[22:24] <Ramtron> I saw on Google that my network router has had this problem previously, but there weren't any fixes for it
[22:24] <Ramtron> network card*
[22:25] <MisterMobile> Help needed installing DNS 11.5 in UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.  Have tried using wine as well as crossover with no luck.  Any answers?
[22:28] <zykotick9> MisterMobile: installing DNS 11.5 (is that some MS software?) - try in the #winehq channel maybe
[22:28] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: then there may be a firmware update for the device, try static ip
[22:28] <Ramtron> How do I try that?
[22:29] <MisterMobile> Reference to DNS 11.5 is Dragon naturally speaking
[22:31] <Ramtron> Is there a command for static IP?
[22:31] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: use network manager
[22:31] <zykotick9> Ramtron: use your network manager icon
[22:31] <L3mce> MisterMobile: if whinehq database does not have a solution, I think you are without luck unless you just want to run a win vm inside of ubuntu.
[22:32] <Ramtron> I'm not seeing it in there
[22:33] <arch_adam> has any one got photoshop running stable with wine?
[22:33] <ActionPa1snip> Ramtron: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=set+static+IP+ubuntu
[22:33] <zykotick9> arch_adam: #winehq
[22:33] <L3mce> !wine
[22:33] <ActionPa1snip> arch_adam: I suggest you check the appdb
[22:33] <L3mce> appdb that is what I am looking for... sorry.
[22:33] <L3mce> !AppDB
[22:34] <MisterMobile> I<zykotick9> Dragon IS a 'Microsoft' program in which I currently run in windows XP Pro.  Have considered a virtual solution inside of Wine or crossover but that's not my preference
[22:34] <arch_adam> ok , ubuntu has unity now, can i customize that to open box or awesome?
[22:34] <lnxslck> arch_adam, customize what?
[22:34] <zykotick9> arch_adam: yes.  install new wm.  log out.  choose new.  log in.
[22:35] <arch_adam> cool
[22:35] <arch_adam> is there any backdoors like there is in mac and windows?
[22:36] <woot-0854> arch: always
[22:36] <zykotick9> arch_adam: much less likely.  <but OT in nature>
[22:38] <dr_willis> 'any backdoors' ? how vague...
[22:38] <dr_willis> brb
[22:38] <WeThePeople> will deleting winxp from a dual boot with ubuntu mess with the MBR
[22:39] <WeThePeople> or grub
[22:39] <L3mce> How do you plan on 'deleting windows' WeThePeople?
[22:39] <WeThePeople> l3mce, yes
[22:39] <WeThePeople> then reinstalling
[22:40] <forgotmynick> why the fudge does the live cd keep asking for username and password?!
[22:40] <L3mce> WeThePeople: you will still have a grub entry... reinstalling WILL mess with the mbr and grub... you will need to reinstall/update grub
[22:41] <L3mce> forgotmynick: An ubuntu live cd will not...
[22:42] <WeThePeople> l3mce, forgotmynick, where did you get the image from??
[22:42] <forgotmynick> L3mce, downloaded from http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:42] <forgotmynick> WeThePeople^ I made a bootable USB with unetbootin
[22:44] <WeThePeople> l3mce, will i be able to boot from the grub into tty?
[22:44] <Kheo> hello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!
[22:44] <L3mce> WeThePeople: no. You will need to do a live boot and fix grub from there.
[22:44] <WeThePeople> ok
[22:44] <Kheo> hello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!
[22:45] <WeThePeople> kheo, please be patient
[22:45] <Kheo> lol I must wait 2 days ?
[22:46] <ahmedipa> hi everybody
[22:46] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:46] <ahmedipa> how are you doing ?
[22:46] <Kheo> hello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!
[22:46] <L3mce> Good, do you have an issue we can help with ahmedipa?
[22:46] <dr_willis> Kheo:  from what ive been googling. Vsftp is a bit broken. so good luck.
[22:46] <ahmedipa> WeThePeople: hi
[22:46] <zykotick9> ahmedipa: see "/msg ubottu ask" - ask your question on one line, no "chit-chat" here ;)
[22:46] <dr_willis> Kheo:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/869684
[22:46] <scatterp> can i get some help with my webcam ?
[22:47] <L3mce> Can you use your cam with cheeze scatterp?
[22:47] <zykotick9> scatterp: does it work in cheese?  that's all the help i got - best of luck.
[22:47] <scatterp> L3mce,  no
[22:47] <scatterp> i Have a samsung webcamera and after looking at the windows inf file i discovered some vid/pids that were not mentioned when i do lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1255860/ specificlly 093a:010f which is listed here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_MR97310A.html my problem is i am not sure how to get this running could any one help me out ? i did find http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca-2.15.18.tar.gz which i was able to make and make install how
[22:47] <scatterp> ever i cant modprobe gspca or mars so not sure what to do i am running ubuntu 12.04
[22:48] <L3mce> scatterp: then it is going to be beyond me, if it can be fixed at all
[22:48] <scatterp> L3mce,  ok
[22:48] <scatterp> zykotick9, ok thx
[22:48] <ActionPa1snip> scatterp: if you install and run cheese, does it work?
[22:49] <zykotick9> scatterp: personalyFYI that was an awesome question, you should have led with that ;) :)
[22:49] <scatterp> ActionPa1snip, no
[22:50] <MisterMobile> Help needed installing Dragon naturally speaking.  11.5  using wine &/or  cross over
[22:50] <ahmedipa> zykotick9: do you mean just one line no multiline do you mean if I paste
[22:50] <zykotick9> ahmedipa: just ask your question ;)
[22:50] <Kheo> hello, I can't use vsftpd can anybody help me ?!?!?!?!
[22:51] <woot-0854> Kheo: idk i use gftp
[22:51] <Kheo> lol?
[22:51] <ahmedipa> zykotick9: my question is no free space , I can't install application
[22:51] <ahmedipa> zykotick9: what should I do
[22:51] <zykotick9> ahmedipa: pastebin "df -h"
[22:52] <zykotick9> ahmedipa: "sudo apt-get clean" will delete your downloaded DEB cache.  ususally frees some space.
[22:52] <dr_willis> Kheo:  seems a lot of people cant use vsftp - it seems broken with PAM issues. from what ive been googling. Vsftp is a bit broken.
[22:53] <WeThePeople> l3mce, fix grub? you mean fix mbr
[22:54] <WeThePeople> or both
[22:54] <zykotick9> dr_willis: the even better answer being, "don't use ftp" ;)
[22:55] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  yep. but i was trying to get vsftp going in 12.10 even..  it seems to definatly still have PAM issues. did some looking and saw its had issues since a few releases back.
[22:55] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> does anyone remember what the solution was to the bug that made ubuntu 10.04 freeze up
[22:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i 100% believe your issue.  kinda nice to feel that way ;)
[22:56] <zykotick9> dr_willis: s/issue/bug/ ;)
[22:57] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  ;) its so secure it cant be used!
[22:57] <FireStorms> Hi, in Ubuntu, using the chmod command how would you change *directory permission only* within a folder that contains hundreds of directories and files (mixed)?
[22:58] <L3mce> WeThePeople: when you install windows... it will take over MBR... THEN you will have to boot live, chroot into the ubuntu install, and grub-install then update-grub
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  to be sure, create a folder with some random files in it, change the folders chmod and see if the files changed too
[22:58] <Dragon64> hello, I have a laptop with an embedded intel video chip. My webcam works in Windows 7, but is very choppy in Unbuntu 12.04. I am using cheese and have followed the instructions for choppy video in the cheese faq. Anyone have any other thoughts?
[22:58]  * FireStorms tabs
[22:59] <zykotick9> L3mce: i think grub-fix or something like that is recommended these days.  chroot instructions are NO LONGER on the grub2 wiki page :(..
[22:59] <zykotick9> !fixgrub
[22:59] <BarkingFish> evening all :)  Can someone help me figure something out please?  I installed the ubuntu desktop / unity last night, and I'm in KDE right now - and something that I installed last night, is working on the KDE desktop, but it's not a KDE feature.
[23:00] <L3mce> Okey doke... Dunno about that. THanks for the update zykotick9. I can help you chroot WeThePeople, or you should probably read those links instead
[23:00] <ActionPa1snip> FireStorms: you'll need to use:  find -t d      to find the folders, then chmod that
[23:00] <BarkingFish> Basically, when I get near to a scrollbar, I get what looks like a rocker switch with 2 arrows which allows me to fast scroll through whatever is on the bar, and it follows the mouse.  I want to know what it is, if anyone has any clues please.
[23:00] <mcoffin> BarkingFish, Did you include gnome in your OS install by accident?
[23:01] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, yes, everything did change
[23:01] <FireStorms> ActionPa1snip, thanks I'll look into that :)
[23:01] <BarkingFish> mcoffin, I have Kubuntu  - I installed the ubuntu desktop last night to make some gnome apps work that didn't on Kubuntu alone
[23:02] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: IF you don't get an answer here, you might want to try asking in #kubuntu
[23:02] <MisterMobile> Does anyone know of a good speech to text program for UBUNTU?
[23:02] <WeThePeople> ok, thanks
[23:02] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, the reason I'm asking here is what I have is not part of kubuntu :)
[23:02] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: the default behavior for chmod is to just change permissions for a single argument
[23:02] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  ha! :) Fixed it with my leet-google-fu skills.. well found a forum post..
[23:02] <mcoffin> BarkingFish, Sorry I'm no expert on window environments, that just popped in to my head so I thought I'd try and help :D
[23:03] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: i realize that.  but, unity people would have no idea what's in kde.  i figure a kde user must have run into this issue before.
[23:03] <BarkingFish> no probs, thanks anyway - I'll try and get a screenshot of it to show you what I'm seeing - which might help.
[23:03] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: you'd need to use the -R option to change recursively, which would change permissions for all subfolders and files
[23:03] <L3mce> dr_willis: did it involve hashing the listen thing in config?
[23:03] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, fss how many names begin with cyber. I'm using it with the -R flag, even then?
[23:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: nice ;)
[23:03] <dr_willis> L3mce:  nope.. was utterly trivial.. and weird.... here it is..
[23:03] <dr_willis> in /etc/vsftpd.conf:
[23:03] <BarkingFish> yeah zykotick9 - this is part of the unity install / ubuntu desktop though, so I thought I'd come to you first
[23:03] <dr_willis> pam_service_name=vsftpd -> pam_service_name=ftp
[23:03] <WeThePeople> l3mce, will i need internet access to install update grub?
[23:03] <L3mce> I was close... lol
[23:03] <FireStorms> ahh bit of miscommunication
[23:03] <dr_willis> L3mce:  changed that one thing.. and it started working.. from vsftpd to ftp...
[23:03] <L3mce> no WeThePeople
[23:04] <dr_willis> L3mce:  seems pam wants the service to be named ftp. not vsftpd i guess...
[23:04] <dr_willis> well its logged now in the channel logs for Ever!
[23:04] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: if you're using the -R flag, it is going to change everything in all the subdirectories as well
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> MisterMobile  try festival
[23:04] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: best of luck man.  you might get an answer here, patience is a good thing.
[23:05] <WeThePeople> l3mce, all right one problem though, gparted for some reason shows all of my hdd as unallocated.
[23:05] <L3mce> uh... WeThePeople... thats not good.
[23:05] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, as ActionPa1snip said, I might need to use the find command in conjunction with chmod
[23:05] <BarkingFish> yep, as soon as this screenshot decides to upload, I will be able to show you the problem rather than just describe it in a vague manner :P
[23:06] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: are you trying to change just a single directory?
[23:06] <L3mce> WeThePeople: make sure you are looking at the correct drive... and... did you reinstall windows already?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> l3mce, nope havent touch anything yet, i only have one drive to select.. lol
[23:06] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, lol no, there's many nested directories... I got 1/3 way though in 20 minuites and quit
[23:07] <mcoffin> Is there a ubottu command that will point me towards the great list of pros and cons for gnome and plasma?
 I HAVE HEARD OF FESTIVAL,  H, how good is it compared to Dragon naturally speaking??
[23:07] <Dragon64> hello, I have a laptop with an embedded intel video chip. My webcam works in Windows 7, but is very choppy in Unbuntu 12.04. I am using cheese and have followed the instructions for choppy video in the cheese faq. Anyone have any other thoughts?
[23:07] <mcoffin> I can't seem to find it
[23:07] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: how about you tell me exactly what you're trying to do
[23:07] <L3mce> WeThePeople: what does sudo fdisk -l      look lik
[23:07] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: are you trying to change all the directories permissions?
[23:07] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, ok
[23:08] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, I have a web directory, the permissions of dirs need changing to 500 and file 400
[23:08] <FireStorms> files*
[23:08] <Cyberspaceloa> Firestorms: cd to the parent directory
[23:08] <zykotick9> mcoffin: don't expect much KDE info in the default ubottu factoids... but specifically, not that I know of.  i believe "/msg ubottu brain" might link to a url with all the factoids if you want to search.
[23:08] <AndroUser> I'm having an issue with Ubuntu at boot. Stuck in an infinite loop.
[23:08] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: find . -type d -execdir chmod 500 '{}' \;
[23:09] <L3mce> MisterMobile: IMO nothing is as good as dragon... but festival is as good as you will get native to linux.
[23:09] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: find . -type f -execdir chmod 400 '{}' \;
[23:09] <FireStorms> yes?
[23:09] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: those two commands should do it, but test them first in a trivial environment
[23:09] <L3mce> FireStorms: that should be executed IN the directory
[23:10] <mcoffin> zykotick9, thanks again. You're seriously trying harder than 99% of people who get payed to do stuff like this.
[23:10] <L3mce> Doing so lower can blow stuff up
[23:10] <FireStorms> I shall try now, thanks
[23:10] <Cyberspaceloa> L3mce: Yes he needs to cd to the parent directory as I said
[23:10]  * FireStorms tabs
[23:10] <WeThePeople> l3mce, img of gparted>>> http://imgh.us/gparted.jpg  paste.ubuntu of fdisk -l >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257040/
[23:10] <L3mce> sorry Cyberspaceloa... was just making sure that was understood.
[23:10] <AndroUser> I'm getting nouveau Failed to idle cahnnel 1
[23:11] <Cyberspaceloa> L3mce: no prob, it's a good idea
[23:11] <L3mce> WeThePeople: well the fdisk shows we are in good shape.
[23:11] <ActionPa1snip> AndroUser: blacklist the nouveau driver, may help
[23:11] <AndroUser> How is that done?
[23:12] <zykotick9> mcoffin: thanks man, that was really nice to say.
[23:12] <L3mce> WeThePeople: that is 93 gb... whatever it is... it aint your hard drive...
[23:12] <MisterMobile> L3mce  ->  I keep asking for help installing Dragon through line or cross over, but no one has the answer...
[23:12] <Cyberspaceloa> MisterMobile: that's probably because it may not be possible. You already stated you've tried with wine and crossover
[23:12] <Cyberspaceloa> MisterMobile: if anyone has an idea, they'll pipe in
[23:12] <L3mce> WeThePeople: I see now... that is the root of the drive... drop it down to the other partitions.
[23:12] <FireStorms> and it worked + I learned something new
[23:13] <L3mce> MisterMobile: Nor do I have an answer... I am all linux... I simply live without it.
[23:13] <FireStorms> Cyberspaceloa, L3mce, ActionPa1snip, MonkeyDust I thank you
[23:13] <nawledgebeats> can someone tell me why i have to type Nomodeset
[23:13]  * FireStorms goodbye
[23:13] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, anyone else who can help - the thing I'm pointing to in this screenshot is what I'm trying to identify from unity/gdm > http://imgur.com/YRim6
[23:13] <nawledgebeats> jrib:?
[23:14] <nawledgebeats> Jrib: you still here?
[23:14] <WeThePeople> l3mce, thats the only one i can select in the drop down menu
[23:14] <L3mce> nawledgebeats: the answer will depend on your GPU chipset, how it addresses the frame buffer and the driver you use.
[23:14] <MisterMobile> Yeah, I'm trying to get away from Windows myself.  This is my first time I wasn't sure how the chat system works
[23:14] <nawledgebeats> hmm
[23:14] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: that looks like the scroll bar to me (i don't use unity or kde, so have no idea)  good luck.
[23:15] <L3mce> WeThePeople: I am not sure I understand why you are there frankly... but... as I said... your hard drive is fine, and we will just be using the command line.
[23:15] <nawledgebeats> l3mce: i dont know what graphics card i have but how can i solve this issue
[23:15] <AndroUser> I'm having issues with my gpu as well. I used Nomodeset to instal ubuntu, but now I'm stuck in an error loop upon booting.
[23:15] <L3mce> nawledgebeats: you will add it to your boot configuration so you dont have to manually type it.
[23:15] <L3mce> !nomodeset | nawledgebeats
[23:16] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: do you have nvidia/ati?  those require nomodeset usually.  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for more details.
[23:16] <ahmedipa> Question
[23:16] <nawledgebeats> ubottu: can i save it so nomodeset is always there?
[23:16] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: fyi "lspci | grep -i vga" should show you graphics card (unless you use hybrid)
[23:16] <BarkingFish> ok zykotick9 - normally my scrollbar is just a gray bar with an arrow at each end for rapid up and down, and the actual bar in the middle. This has got to be a GDM / Unity thing
[23:16] <BarkingFish> I will try and locate it.
[23:16] <BarkingFish> Thanks
[23:16] <L3mce> nawledgebeats: yes...
[23:16] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: edit /etc/default/grub to make nomodeset permanent
[23:16] <WeThePeople> l3mce, how long will you be on #ubuntu for?, i have to check i have all the software off of Winxp yet
[23:17] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: fyi you need to run "sudo update-grug" after changing the grub file mentioned above to apply the settings.
[23:17] <L3mce> WeThePeople: I have nothing on deck, but emergencies crop up. No promises, but I should be around.
[23:17] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: sorry typo "sudo update-grub"
[23:17] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:17] <nawledgebeats> thank you thank you.
[23:18] <ahmedipa> how can I uninstall windows application that work under linux ??
[23:19] <L3mce> ahmedipa: you are going to have to give more detail to that question.
[23:19] <nawledgebeats> zy: is this right??? http://pastebin.com/UE7pSqh3
[23:20] <Tigerboy> ahmedipa: many windows applications work under "Wine" which is an emulator - or also try "virtualbox" which creates a virtual machine in a window on your desk- you can install Windows XP or other operating systems on it and have full access to it whilst you are on Ubuntu.
[23:20] <ahmedipa> L3mce: I installed itunes application throw wine and I want to uninstall it ? how can I do that ?
[23:20] <ActionPa1snip> ahmedipa: run: uninstaller
[23:20] <ninjaaron> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with an alternative window manager (herbstluftwm), and it is mostly fine, but certain things do not work.  Most notably, the power button.
[23:20] <nawledgebeats> zykotick9: is this right???
[23:20] <zykotick9> nawledgebeats: me?  see "/msg ubottu tab" for info on TABing in irc.  sorry i don't visit pastebin.com.  see "/msg ubottu paste" for an alternative i will go to.
[23:21] <ActionPa1snip> ahmedipa: if yuo only have itunes installed, just delete the ~/.wine folder
[23:21] <nawledgebeats> darn
[23:21] <zykotick9> ahmedipa: WARNING deleting .wine will delete EVERYTHING you've installed!
[23:21] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: hence the word 'only'
[23:21] <ninjaaron> so I have no way to suspend with this window manager aside from  issuing the command `sudo pm-suspend`.
[23:22] <f00lhardy> how does one raise sytem volume via terminal?
[23:22] <ahmedipa>  zykotick9: How can I delete only itunes
[23:22] <nawledgebeats> L3mce: can you view this and see if its correct? http://pastebin.com/UE7pSqh3
[23:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> f00lhardy:
[23:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/97936/terminal-command-to-set-audio-volume
[23:23] <f00lhardy> alsamixer
[23:23] <ActionPa1snip> ahmedipa: run the uninstaller in the itunes folder
[23:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> (silly enter key)
[23:23] <jhgjhg> Can you change Nomodeset from the bootmenu? I can't get in to the desktop
[23:23] <f00lhardy> oh ok, thanks hmmwhatsthisdo
[23:23] <Tigerboy> ninjaaron: one way is to open terminal and type sudo halt  or else use "sudo shutdown -h now" both will shut your system down safely- to reboot just type "reboot"
[23:23] <zykotick9> jhgjhg: yes.  use e
[23:23] <jhgjhg> Ah. Thanks zykotick9
[23:24] <ninjaaron> Tigerboy: Yes, that is what I'm doing currently doing, but I was looking for a way to do it without having to type my password every time I want to shudown or suspend.
[23:24] <ActionPa1snip> ahmedipa: I've seen videos on youtube how to get itunes on Ubuntu with wine but I don't buy apple rubbish so can't say if they actually work
[23:25] <Tigerboy> Ninjaaron: can I know the wm you are using?
[23:25] <ActionPa1snip> ahmedipa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M
[23:25] <ninjaaron> Tigerboy: Herbstluftwm
[23:27] <L3top> ninjaaron: are you using arch?
[23:27] <ninjaaron> Tigerboy: I've managed to get some of my Gnome stuff working with `gnome-settings-daemon`, but other things don't seem to be working.
[23:27] <ninjaaron> L3top: no, 12.04 LTS
[23:27] <Tigerboy> Ninjaaron: have not used that -- do you have all the gnome packages installed that might help
[23:27] <zykotick9> L3top: fyi EVERYTHING self-respecting gnu/linux distro "should" require root-privs to shutdown/suspend.
[23:28] <jimbo_> can anyone help with getting my wwan up and going?
[23:28] <ninjaaron> Pretty sure.  I didn't delete Unity or anything (I still use it sometimes, depending on the task).
[23:28] <Tigerboy> ninjaaron: there is a lovely shutdown button in the screenlets manager (add package screenlets)
[23:28] <muelli> !anyone | jimbo_
[23:29]  * L3top isn't aware of the issue, have only seen herb on arch before... that was the reason I asked
[23:29] <rbik> ?join python
[23:29] <L3top> rbik: /join #python
[23:29] <rbik> #?join python
[23:29] <Tigerboy> Ninjaaron: it will appear on the desktop-- go into screenlets manager once installed and add all the extra screenlets packages -- then find the shutdown button- highlight it and tick the start and startup boxes on the left
[23:30] <rbik> L3top: thanks!
[23:30] <ninjaaron> L3top: it's in the Debian testing and unstable repos, and hence, in Ubuntu.
[23:30] <jimbo_> ubottu:  ...and if I don't know how to ask the right question?
[23:30] <L3top> Was just curious ninjaaron... now considering taking a look...
[23:30] <Tigerboy> Ninjaaron: one instance will appear of the button on your desktop-- just move it to your preferred spot
[23:30] <L3top> !details | jimbo_
[23:30] <ninjaaron> L3top: I get it through a PPA, however, to get the latest version.
[23:32] <L3top> ninjaaron: if you would like to give me your impression in #ubuntu-offtopic I would be very interested to hear.
[23:32] <ninjaaron> Tigerboy: will give it a try.
[23:32] <homecable> whats a /home/user dir chmoded to ?
[23:33] <pr0metheu5> How do I uninstall xubuntu-desktop/xfce?
[23:33] <Tigerboy> Ninjaaron: screenlets manager will appear on your launchbar when you run it -- just right click it to gain features
[23:33] <L3top> homecable: I do not understand your question as it sits.
[23:33] <pr0metheu5> Sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, will that be sufficient?
[23:33] <homecable> what chmod is drwxr-xr-x
[23:34] <zykotick9> pr0metheu5: i believe the second command is simply "apt-get autoremove"
[23:34] <zykotick9> prooz: and your sudo with && wouldn't apply the the 2nd command.
[23:34] <L3top> Oh sorry homecable... I somehow read that chmod as chroot... one second.
[23:34] <zykotick9> pr0metheu5: see above.
[23:34] <ssfdre38> is there a way to get Recordmydesktop to capture my audio without me turning up my speakers for my mic to pick it up
[23:35] <user123abc_> is it harmful to restart the X server via Alt-PrntScrn-K ?
[23:35] <zykotick9> user123abc_: i wouldn't if you can avoid it.
[23:35] <user123abc_> zykotick9, could you explain?
[23:36] <user123abc_> zykotick9, or are you just arguing from a common sense perspective?
[23:36] <Tigerboy> ssfdre38: you can use Jack demon -- little tricky to set up
[23:36] <zykotick9> user123abc_: probably leaves most of your processes hanging, where a more normal quit would be more graceful.
[23:36] <zykotick9> user123abc_: i think of alt-sysrq-k as -9 but worse...
[23:37] <user123abc_> zykotick9, is it really implemented via kill -9? I guess it should be, but can anyone confirm?
[23:37] <zykotick9> user123abc_: alt-sysrq-k != the old ctrl+alt+backspace IMO
[23:37] <L3top> homecable: the dir itself is 755, the content within is everywhere from 600 to 775
[23:38] <zykotick9> user123abc_: the sysrq is deeper then -9 in many ways!
[23:38] <user123abc_> zykotick9, I'd be curious to know how
[23:38] <zykotick9> user123abc_: "deeper" in this case meaning "worse" ;)
[23:38] <Ethic> I'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH
[23:38] <javier_> chocha
[23:39] <javier_> us this, ETHIC - www.theync.com.  there's an answer
[23:39] <zykotick9> user123abc_: sysrq can do CRAZY stuff, at almost the kernel level!  that's why it's used for the ultimate-last-ditch-effort restart.
[23:39] <user123abc_> zykotick9, but yeah, to repeat, do you have more ideas about how it's actually implemented? or do you just mean that the timing of the signal is unfortunate
[23:39] <zykotick9> !sysrq
[23:39] <lsj8924> hello
[23:39] <lsj8924> good morning
[23:40] <ActionPa1snip> user123abc_: could run:  killall -u $USER     instead
[23:40] <sssilver> Hello everyone. When I attach my PS/2 mouse, there's nothing on dmesg. Also, the mouse doesn't work even if I restart the PC. What gives?
[23:40] <user123abc_> ActionPa1snip, hmm, I'm tempted to try that out right now
[23:40] <ActionPa1snip> sssilver: is the ps2 port enabled in BIOS?
[23:40] <sssilver> ActionPa1snip: I believe so
[23:40] <zykotick9> user123abc_: sysrq is a different thing then signals.  it's, in my words only, "deeper"
[23:40] <muelli> sssilver: hm. It's not hotplug, so you do have to reboot.
[23:41] <muelli> sssilver: how do you know the mouse is not working after reboot?
[23:41] <sssilver> muelli: the cursor won't react to my mouse movements?
[23:41] <ActionPa1snip> sssilver: you should check
[23:41] <WeThePeople> l3mce, ok all set to partition :O
[23:41] <user123abc_> zykotick9, I'm trying to look up what syscall it might be using
[23:42] <zykotick9> user123abc_: alt+sysrq+k is fine, if "sudo service lightdm restart" has failed already.
[23:42] <user123abc_> zykotick9, do you happen to know?
[23:42] <f00dMonsta> anyone know how I can make Eclipse run faster? :/ I'm already using Oracle's Java
[23:42] <zykotick9> user123abc_: no idea
[23:42] <muelli> sssilver: I guess it's a statement, not a question, despite the question mark. can you pastebin us the output of "xinput"? And maybe "dmesg"?
[23:42] <user123abc_> zykotick9, nah, I guess I was hoping that I could just use it as a "too lazy to press the log-out button" type of thing
[23:42] <user123abc_> zykotick9, but as you say, that would be unwise
[23:42] <solocommand> So I've heard that enabling tcp delayed ACK can help with samba lag. Does anyone know how to enable it on oneric? I've seen net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack listed as the variable for sysctl, but that path doesn't exist for me under /proc/sys
[23:42] <zykotick9> user123abc_: i wouldn't recommend it ;)
[23:43] <KRomeleoN> how do i delete "web apps"
[23:43] <Smackbook> how can you stop the update manager from popping up?
[23:43] <KRomeleoN> like, i have 2 amazon shortcuts and an omgubuntu shortcuts
[23:43] <zykotick9> Smackbook: you want it too.
[23:43] <Smackbook> zykotick9: no i dont
[23:43] <Kvothe_> Hi, there's any deniable encryption filesystem, what it's not: truecrypt. And there's not too old?
[23:44] <dr_willis> KRomeleoN:  i cant even get any to show up here. ;) the browser dialog asks.. but they never appear
[23:44] <L3top> Kvothe_: You are going to have to work harder on your syntax. I do not understand that.
[23:45] <Kvothe_> L3top, sorry, something like, rubberhose
[23:45] <WeThePeople> l3top, is this l3mce??
[23:45] <L3top> Yes.
[23:45] <KRomeleoN> dr_wills its annoying hehe
[23:45] <sssilver_> I don't know how to copy the input of xinput without a mouse :'(
[23:45] <L3top> Was I on as l3mce earlier? I shouldn't have been
[23:45] <Ethic> I'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH
[23:45] <WeThePeople> l3top, can you help with command line to delete windows xp?
[23:45] <muelli> sssilver_: use pastebinit, i.e. xinput | pastebinit
[23:45] <user123abc_> zykotick9, hmm, there doesn't seem to be a "murder_death_all()" syscall
[23:46] <iCarly> Kvothe_, if deniabe=reliable: encfs + cryptkeeper
[23:46] <zykotick9> user123abc_: i'm sure there is ;)
[23:46] <f00dMonsta> anyone know how I can make Eclipse run faster? :/ I'm already using Oracle's Java
[23:46] <muelli> f00dMonsta: more RAM
[23:46] <muelli> it's Java.
[23:46] <f00dMonsta> muelli: I have 8Gb of Ram
[23:46] <muelli> f00dMonsta: more
[23:47] <Smackbook> apparently this http://lifehacker.com/5295449/disable-ubuntus-annoying-update-manager-popup doesnt work anymore because the structure of the gconf-folder no longer has an auto_launch option to uncheck
[23:47] <f00dMonsta> muelli: it's not even using 200mb according the eclipse's heap thingy
[23:47] <AnonHuman> hello
[23:47] <pr0metheu5> Can I somehow give my current install more space, using gparted or such?
[23:47] <muelli> pr0metheu5: yes
[23:47] <L3top> WeThePeople: You could just format the partition, you could zero it out with dd, you could wipe it, you could shred it... I am not sure what you are trying to do or why...  I need to know why you want to "delete" windows rather than simply install over it...
[23:47] <pr0metheu5> oh, cool
[23:48] <sssilver_> muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257079/
[23:48] <ActionPa1snip> solocommand: you can put options in /etc/sysctl.conf
[23:48] <Smackbook> ah! simple: sudo apt-get remove update-manager
[23:48] <KRomeleoN> like, i have 2 amazon shortcuts and an omgubuntu shortcuts
[23:48] <KRomeleoN> how do i delete "web apps"
[23:48] <Smackbook> whodathunk
[23:48] <muelli> sssilver_: Is this your mouse? "KYE 4D device Ergomedia "
[23:48] <ActionPa1snip> !amazon | KRomeleoN
[23:48] <AnonHuman> you delete web apps
[23:49] <OerHeks> KRomeleoN, better ask in #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10 support.
[23:49] <sssilver_> muelli: it could be, it's a very old Genius
[23:49] <WeThePeople> l3top, how would i install over winxp, just set boot order to boot from cd and go from there?
[23:49] <sssilver_> muelli: so, KYE sounds about right
[23:49] <ActionPa1snip> KRomeleoN: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping.
[23:49] <muelli> KRomeleoN: can you not right click and remove?
[23:50] <muelli> sssilver_: so you don't know yet whether this is your device? Can you find out easily?
[23:50] <sssilver_> muelli: here's dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257080/
[23:50] <L3top> WeThePeople: this is really straying outside of ubuntu support, but... just put in the windows dvd and do a fresh install. It will only see the first partition, just dont let it overwrite and use the whole drive.
[23:51] <jgcampbell300> anyone around
[23:51] <sssilver_> muelli: looks like that is it
[23:51] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:51] <muelli> hm sssilver_. Looks good to me: "mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice". Looks like the kernel recognises your device.
[23:51] <muelli> but your cursor on the screen doesn't move when you move the mouse, sssilver_?
[23:52] <Tigerboy> WethePeople: just simply create new partitions("something else" option during partition install)- ext4 is a good format to use and at the bottom of the window where you delete and create partitions is the boot up drive choice pulldown- that is where the boot will go.
[23:52] <sssilver_> no muelli
[23:52] <sssilver_> muelli: I tried another ancient PS/2 mouse, it didn't work either
[23:52] <solocommand> ActionPa1snip: I'm currently testing with the TCP_NODELAY socket option in the smb config; I could put it in the sysctl conf but if it's not a valid variable for sysctl, I doubt it will do anything :/
[23:52] <sssilver_> muelli: my old Compaq mouse
[23:52] <KRomeleoN> im on gnome 3.4
[23:52] <KRomeleoN> 3.6 rather
[23:52] <Tigerboy> Wethepeople: be sure to format all the partitions you need at least root / and swap -- good idea to have a separate /home and /tmp
[23:52] <KRomeleoN> ccannot right click and remove
[23:52] <jgcampbell300> question = i have 2 servers im building dell 2950 ... my question is why would i need two network controlers ... just wondering ... i have quite a few ideas what i could do with the second one but i am wondering what the second one was intended for ... any ideas
[23:52] <Cyberspaceloa> L3top: I have a question. It seems like the common advice is to leave unused space for ubuntu in setting up a dual boot machine
[23:53] <zykotick9> sssilver_: to copy from xterm/urxvt term i highlight the text i want to copy, and leaving it highlighted i click my scroll wheel to paste.
[23:53] <muelli> sssilver_: hm. Can you pastebin "ls /dev/input"?
[23:53] <Cyberspaceloa> L3top: However, the automated tool that comes with the vanilla distro refuses to detect unused hard drive space
[23:53] <L3top> Cyberspaceloa: in general no... he already has a windows AND an ubuntu install, and must do the required every X months windows reinstall.
[23:53] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, that's fine, (when doing the partition part of the ubuntu install, you'll have to choose manual-- 2 new partitions-- 1 ext4 for "/" and 1 for swap)
[23:53] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  it sees 'unallocated' space last time i tried it.
[23:53] <sssilver_> muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257089/
[23:54] <Cyberspaceloa> dr_willis: does it really? That's interesting
[23:54] <L3top> Cyberspaceloa: so in his circumstance, he needs to leave his existing install alone. Generally it is easier just to use the whole drive for windows and resize from ubuntu install.
[23:54] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  but i tend to manually configure such things for total controll. :) plus i tend to have linux totally on its own hard drive.
[23:54] <muelli> hm sssilver_. I would have expected "mouse0" to show up. Can you "cat /dev/input/mice", move the mouse and tell us whether you see anything funny in the terminal..?
[23:54] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, please don't invent um.. "vanilla distro". That sounds outright silly what you mean here
[23:54] <Cyberspaceloa> dr_willis: I'm the same way, myself. That's why I was surprised at the problems some have been having
[23:54] <muelli> sssilver_: maybe sudo it.
[23:54] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  ive resized windows and left half the HD unallocated many a time and the installer would use  the unallocated space. making a swap and a /
[23:55] <sssilver_> muelli: maybe tail -f ?
[23:55] <Cyberspaceloa> jagginess: it generally refers to the default tools and packages installation. I didn't "invent" the term.
[23:55] <muelli> sssilver_: nah. better cat. It's more raw -.-
[23:55] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  part of the issue can be that new windows installs may use 4 primary partions.. and thus  limit any options
[23:55] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, gparted live cd also does a nice job of resizing ntfs non-destructively
[23:55] <L3top> dr_willis: how about fresh large capacity drives? I have always probs with them and gparted
[23:55] <muelli> sssilver_: you can "reset" your terminal if it's messed up afterwards. Let's hope it will be, because that'd be a good sign!
[23:55] <L3top> dr_willis: fresh = new never partitioned
[23:55] <sssilver_> muelli: nothing
[23:55] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, you did.. there's no such thing as a vanilla distro, but there is a "base system" for every linux that's more or less the same (bash, etc)
[23:56] <sssilver_> muelli: blankness, I pushed all the buttons on it too
[23:56] <dr_willis> L3top:  Had no real issues with new 3TB i bought the other day. I think gparted insisted i use GPT for it.
[23:56] <muelli> sssilver_: hm. weird then. Just to double check: You do move the mouse while the "cat" is running, right?
[23:56] <Cyberspaceloa> jagginess:I'm not speaking of the GNU tools and kernel, obviously
[23:56] <sssilver_> muelli: sure
[23:56] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, it's not obvious. What are you talking about then?
[23:56] <jagginess> -_-
[23:57] <sssilver_> thanks so much for staying with me on this by the way, muelli
[23:57] <L3top> good news dr_willis. Thanks. I am afk for 20 min if wethepeople comes calling
[23:57] <muelli> sssilver_: Hm. I am running out of ideas then. Your kernel seems to recognize the mouse fine. It seems to me as if the mouse would just not report anything back to your computer. But it's weird, because mice are not too complicated...
[23:57] <jagginess> dr_willis, gpt definitely for 3 tb drive
[23:57] <Cyberspaceloa> dr_willis, L3top: thanks for responding. I haven't dual booted in a long time. If I pitch in here I just want to be informed
[23:57] <sssilver_> muelli: it's not even a laser mouse
[23:58] <muelli> sssilver_: there is one thing though in your dmesg: "i8042: PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp"
[23:58] <dr_willis> Cyberspaceloa:  best $100 i ever spent was for a 128GB SSD for my Linux side of this dual boot system. ;)
[23:58] <jgcampbell300> lol must have been a pretty dumb question ...
[23:58] <muelli> sssilver_: try to boot with that boot option. Do you know how to do that?
[23:58] <sssilver_> muelli: edit grub.conf?
[23:58] <sssilver_> muelli: or the ubuntu people use higher level tools?
[23:58] <muelli> sssilver_: hm. yeah, but doing it during boot is probably simpler and less invading.
[23:58] <zykotick9> sssilver_: grub.conf no.  /etc/default/grub maybe?
[23:59] <dr_willis> sssilver_:  you would add it to the proper line in /etc/default/grub   or test by typing it into the grub menu  for a one time test.
[23:59] <sssilver_> zykotick9: where I come from, it'd be /boot/grub/grub.conf :))
[23:59] <zykotick9> sssilver_: if you come from grub1 that makes sense.
[23:59] <dr_willis> you do not edit grub.conf directly on ubuntu.
[23:59] <Cyberspaceloa> jagginess: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95785/what-is-vanilla-ubuntu