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smartboyhwGood evening scott-work ailo-w len-dt 12:59
* smartboyhw finds the completion rate for Ubuntu Studio blueprints is 91% quite good13:00
scott-workheh, i'm probably all of the remaining 9% that wasn't done then :P13:01
smartboyhwscott-work, I think that is mine for the testcase rewrites still INPROGRESS13:02
ailo-wI seem to suffer from the symptom when you feel like you've done quite a lot, but nothing shows13:04
ailo-wBeen really busy this whole cycle13:05
smartboyhwailo-w, LOL13:05
ailo-wI was coding a program, my own project. Thought it would take me a couple of days. Took me more like 2013:05
ailo-wLeaves little time for anything else13:06
smartboyhwOoh 13:06
ailo-wI'm kind of stuck in a vice. I really have to do my own stuff. Then there13:07
ailo-wThen there's school13:07
ailo-wRight now, it's PHP13:07
smartboyhwailo-w, don't worry:P13:08
ailo-wWill be network stuff later, probably13:08
ailo-wIf one had many lives..13:08
* smartboyhw is staggered of yesterday's logs, staggering 51KB13:08
ailo-wubuntustudio-controls I will do, as well as finish what I can on documentation. It's just that progress is so ridicilously slow13:09
smartboyhwailo-w, er....13:09
* smartboyhw goes and looks more carefully:P13:09
smartboyhwscott-work, the 9% remaining as I discovered is actually 62.5% from ailo-w, 25% from me and 12.5% from len-dt :P13:10
smartboyhwTo all: Good thing:P13:12
smartboyhwhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206548613:12
smartboyhwNice letter13:12
ailo-wscott-work: Buy Ubuntu Studio?13:14
ailo-wHis experiences seemed very subjective. Doesn't really reflect how things have been, I think. 13:15
smartboyhwailo-w, I want him to donate or contribute instead of buying, we;re F/OSS:P13:15
ailo-wIMO, linux-lowlatency and realtime privilege put Ubuntu Studio back to a out of the box audio workstation13:15
ailo-wI guess information is easier to get now, more than ever13:16
ailo-wWhich is a step forward too13:16
smartboyhwailo-w, :)13:16
smartboyhwHey saw this in Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter13:19
smartboyhwhttp://maketecheasier.com/ubuntu-studio-a-distro-for-recording/2012/09/2613:19
ailo-wsmartboyhw: Nice one13:21
smartboyhwailo-w, :)13:21
ailo-wIt's not that bad right now, I guess. 13:21
=== smartboyhw is now known as nohaggis
nohaggisLOL13:21
ailo-wBut, there's still lots to do13:22
* nohaggis thinks the R cycle will be a lot more challenging13:22
ailo-wnohaggis: What u got against haggis?13:22
nohaggisailo-w, a joke in #ubuntuforums:P13:23
=== nohaggis is now known as smartboyhw
ailo-wNever tried Haggis, but I did eat dog in Canton13:27
ailo-wBut, I'm a vegeterian now..13:27
smartboyhwailo-w, er I don't eat dogs:P13:27
smartboyhwailo-w, oh 13:27
* smartboyhw has a classmate who does not eat vegetables:P13:28
ailo-wsmartboyhw: Well, you're from HK. Not like your mainland neighbors13:28
ailo-wI spent some time in Jiang Men. And passed through some other cities, like Shen Zhen, Guang Dong?13:29
smartboyhwailo-w, yeah. We do HATE (morally and behaviourly) and LOVE (economically) them13:29
ailo-wIn Jiang Men, many had never seen a Westerner, it seemed like13:30
ailo-wI miss China sometimes. Especially the food, even though I don't eat meat anymore13:31
smartboyhwOoh13:31
smartboyhwailo-w, btw as you said about your pet project before how is it going?13:34
ailo-wsmartboyhw: Hopefully I will finish enough of it for it to be usable this year. Something I though I would accomplish this summer. 13:34
smartboyhwailo-w, good:)13:35
ailo-wOnce I have a functional version, I will start thinking about porting it to C/C++, and get more people involved13:35
ailo-wI need more time to think about the structure for the whole thing13:35
smartboyhwailo-w, good:)13:35
smartboyhwailo_, holstein, scott-work Really do we need an impromptu (or scheduled) meeting to just talk about adding LMMS?:P13:46
holsteinsmartboyhw: im not going to want to include it13:48
holsteinscott-work doesnt care about it13:48
smartboyhwholstein, but ailo_ cares:P13:48
holsteini say that rather than "i dont care about including LMMS"13:48
holsteinsmartboyhw: sure, and as i said, ailo_ can/should13:48
smartboyhwstochastic, your comment?13:48
holsteini wont "vote it down"13:49
smartboyhwOK13:49
holsteinsmartboyhw: if you want to take it on, and push it in, i wont complain13:49
holsteinif its a sentence that is structured like a question in any way, i think LMMS is a toy13:49
smartboyhwholstein, well this is a community decision so I can't decide13:50
holsteinsomeone will need to take it on though13:50
smartboyhwholstein, I already proposed code merge for that:P13:50
holsteinsmartboyhw: LMMS? cool13:52
smartboyhwholstein, yes:P13:52
holsteini mean, i still think its a toy.. but if folks use it, and its stable now, great!13:52
smartboyhwholstein, well someone asked for that in #ubuntustudio yesterday to ask why we didn't:P13:52
holsteinsure, but i could ask about a lot of things too13:53
holsteinwe cant include everything13:53
smartboyhwholstein, we know13:53
holsteinplenty of time though.. as long as its stable.. is it?13:54
smartboyhwholstein, last build is 9 months ago13:55
smartboyhwfor itP13:55
holsteinsure. there was a new build when it was crashing for me in 10.0413:55
holsteinand 9.10...13:55
holsteini think someone should actually pull it up and run it with JACK... just to be sure13:56
holsteini can do that, if need be13:56
smartboyhwholstein, OK do it:P13:56
holsteini would want that to be a deciding factor... a human actually running the software in JACK on a 12.10 system...13:56
holsteinsmartboyhw: i'll try and get a daily downloaded this week...13:57
smartboyhwholstein, thx13:57
astraljavasmartboyhw: Please keep in mind (re: LMMS inclusion) that at this stage we're under the Feature Freeze, so you'll need to file a FFe to get it included. Also, docs have to be changed accordingly.14:06
smartboyhwastraljava, oh no..............14:06
* smartboyhw forgotten about FF14:07
smartboyhwThat gives it to R then:P14:07
astraljavaAnd being that Beta-2 was already published, I wouldn't accept such an exception anymore, if I were in release team.14:07
astraljavaThough, I suppose flavors can have their way a little bit easier.14:07
* smartboyhw goes to beat himself14:07
astraljavaBut yeah, it'd be much safer to leave it for R cycle.14:08
smartboyhwThanks for the reminder astraljava 14:08
astraljavaNo need to beat yourself.14:08
smartboyhwLOL14:08
astraljavaThe merge request can still be there, it can be merged whenever.14:08
smartboyhwastraljava, OK14:08
astraljavaSo yeah, everything's cool, just make it happen during the next cycle, is my recommendation. :)14:09
* astraljava wanders off again...14:09
smartboyhwastraljava, thx:P14:09
* smartboyhw finds out that Xubuntu QA leads like to wander off:P14:09
stochastichi all14:16
smartboyhwhi stochastic 14:16
smartboyhwstochastic, are you the guy who just sent the LMMS email?14:17
* stochastic is Eric14:17
smartboyhwah OK14:17
stochastic:)14:17
* smartboyhw is thinking to add it into ubuntustudio-default-settings instead for R.14:18
smartboyhwSo people can choose whether to install it or not.14:18
stochasticThere are literally hundreds (no exaggeration) of similar cases where people would probably find an app useful...14:19
stochasticit's tough to pare everything down to a selection of core apps but we do need to be ruthless and justify why everything is included14:20
smartboyhwOK14:20
stochasticin the past things were getting out of control with the music apps in particular14:20
stochasticwhy is rosegarden not included?14:21
smartboyhwstochastic, er....14:21
stochasticwhy is gungirl sequencer not included?14:21
stochasticetc...14:21
stochasticwhy is frescobaldi not included?14:23
smartboyhwstochastic, OK I get the point:P14:23
stochasticlol14:24
smartboyhwLOL14:24
stochasticthat being said, a constant app review process is a healthy thing to be doing.  We need to keep our application selections current.14:24
smartboyhwstochastic, ok14:25
stochasticanyways I'm off to class to write an Econ exam14:26
smartboyhwstochastic, bye bye14:26
scott-workthat guy from the forum post made a comment on my blog saying the same thing yesterday. i would like to respond to him soon.15:01
smartboyhwscott-work, oh!15:02
smartboyhwscott-work, what's your blog link again?15:02
scott-workhttp://dullass.blogspot.com/15:03
smartboyhwscott-work, er where IS the comment:P15:03
scott-workunder the latest post15:04
smartboyhwscott-work, btw I found your wiki page in wiki.ubuntu.com a bit too long:P You don't have to list EVERYTHING:P15:05
smartboyhwscott-work, ah the comment ....15:05
scott-worksmartboyhw: i was told to list everything i did to help with my ubuntu application15:05
smartboyhwscott-work, er.......:P15:06
* smartboyhw is going to apply soon but then he isn't gonna list like that;P15:06
smartboyhwailo_, saw some items in the documentation blueprint is still TODO for you, can you change it either to DONE or POSTPONED?15:36

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